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No. 2553040
Share your unpopular opinions here.
>don’t be a retard>no racebait >no infighting >don't reply to bait >don’t revive old infights or baits>rest of /ot/ board rules apply >farmhands are always watchingPrevious thread:
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I hope OP of the locked thread enjoyed browsing the ugly male psyop thread and the ideal male bodies thread kek. Idk why males lurk here, it's pure masochism on their parts and they just end up upsetting themselves and lashing out with bait posts because they want attention from the nonnas here.
No. 2553123
>>2553095As a philosophy antinatalism aims to end all human life on earth (and possibly that of other living creatures as well) by the total stoppage of procreation. Slightly limiting procreation in some specific instances by 'parent shaming' is just a cop-out because it doesn't come close to achieving the desired aim, it's like if someone called themselves an Actual Communist because they continued to live in a capitalistic society that they view as completely inevitable and permanent but managed to shame 1-2 rich people into giving up their wealth/ceding the means of production to their workers but the rest of society stayed capitalist forever. I don't really see the point of holding a philosophical view that you don't believe will ever actually come to fruition in any way, but I guess that's my own view. I just don't take something seriously as a 'real' philosophy unless there is some vision for the philosophical aims actually coming to fruition.
>>2553113But what resources? Once only old people are left who will maintain the resources? The grid will start to fail, no one will be farming, starvation will set in, etc.
>The only reason why you are encouraged to have children is government propaganda to create more cogs for the system, or bioessentialism. That's weird because the government has always encouraged me NOT to have children. As early as primary and middle school I was taught that having children is bad because of overpopulation. I think that's the most conventional grew that most people grew up with, at least where I live - except now they say there aren't enough young people to work so they import people from other countries to avoid 'the reverse population pyramid' so that's why I'm wondering how it would work to continue that reverse population pyramid worldwide, since apparently you need to import people to do the work of caring for an aging population otherwise they will suffer once you convince people to stop procreating.
No. 2553139
>>2553117>>2553123There would be already existing workers ideally for a retirement home and other medical areas, and the children of the already existing old people. I personally don't believe that all life should cease and not be created, but I 100% think there should be a child limit like China had. Only the bare limit to sustain population should be allowed in my belief. Ideally max of two children per mother.
>That's weird because the government has always encouraged me NOT to have children.I wonder if this is dependent on where you live. I'm sure in most countries, especially third world motherhood is shoved on young girls. In my experience it has been here for me in USA. The propaganda really is everywhere though, for example on all sites I use, all algorithms try to shove motherhood content on me no matter how much I click "Not interested". The propaganda is also in political leaders trying to make you think abortion/birth control are bad, etc.
>except now they say there aren't enough young people to work so they import people from other countries to avoid 'the reverse population pyramid'This is not even close to being the real reason, that's what they're telling you. For example, Indian workers get imported because it's statistically FAR cheaper to outsource from third world than to hire residents. There are plenty of young people who want to work, but shitty corporations don't want to pay real wages and instead hire these third world people for much cheaper.
No. 2553161
>>2553139>and the children of the already existing old people. I'm asking about what happens when those children get old, and there are no more people younger than them? Like at some point during the trajectory toward extinction you are going to have a group of people on the planet that are all, say, 65-100 years old.
>I 100% think there should be a child limit like China had. It was disastrous in China, how would you prevent the same disaster elsewhere? Anyway, that's not antinatalism so doesn't really answer my question, but it is more feasible than antinatalism so I'm interested in how you think the issues with the one-child (or two-child) policy could be fixed in the future.
>I'm sure in most countries, especially third world motherhood is shoved on young girls. In third world countries, probably. In first-world countries it's the opposite. But then the first-world countries say they need migration from the third world to 'fix' the population pyramid. If importing young people from other countries was banned, I wonder how the countries that have the inverse population pyramid would handle things.
>on all sites I use, all algorithms try to shove motherhood content on meThat's really strange, it has never happened to me. Maybe it's because you're interested in stuff like fertility rates and your search history makes them think you're interested in parenting?
>political leaders trying to make you think abortion/birth control are bad, etc.None of the political leaders where I've grown up have ever done that, in fact I think it's the opposite, I grew up thinking hormonal birth control was supposed to be really good and harmless, and only realized later that it has serious harms that were being covered up. But I've never experienced what it would be like to live in an anti-birth-control or anti-abortion society.
>There are plenty of young people who want to workIn elder care and shitty jobs like that? Not at the pay rates that are feasible. I know people who work in elder care and they cannot find young people who are willing to do the job at sustainable rates, many burn out and quit pretty quickly. And the pay is kind of limited by how much family members are able to pay for elderly people staying there, or how much the elderly people have saved up.
No. 2553199
>>2553161I'm asking about what happens when those children get old, and there are no more people younger than them? Like at some point during the trajectory toward extinction you are going to have a group of people on the planet that are all, say, 65-100 years old.
If we impose a limit on population, there should always be someone younger than them if they chose to have children. However, even if you have children that doesn't mean they'll want to take care of their elderly parent.
>It was disastrous in China, how would you prevent the same disaster elsewhere? Anyway, that's not antinatalism so doesn't really answer my question, but it is more feasible than antinatalism so I'm interested in how you think the issues with the one-child (or two-child) policy could be fixed in the future. It was disastrous in China because the population was skewing to male sided, and this happened because of gender-selective abortion being encouraged and abuse/abandonment of baby girls. The easy solution to that would not encourage the idea that baby girls are lesser than and do not allow for sex selective abortion, despite unfortunately the fact that IVF exists which is essentially the same thing which I also think should be abolished.
>That's really strange, it has never happened to me. Maybe it's because you're interested in stuff like fertility rates and your search history makes them think you're interested in parenting? This is just my experience but my interests that I looked up have far exceeded anything related to antinatalism, yet I find parent content everywhere all the time.
>That's really strange, it has never happened to me. Maybe it's because you're interested in stuff like fertility rates and your search history makes them think you're interested in parenting? Thankfully it seems like you live in a mostly good country/society (from what it sounds, I could totally be wrong) and I really should look into the perception of other countries but the USA is so severely fucked when it comes to pushing on procreation to sustain end stage capitalism.
>>2553173Unfortunately medical and adjacent jobs usually have the highest rates of burnout and here, CNAs really do get paid shit for all for all the hard work they do. There are people still willing to do it though, as far as here where the number of nurses are growing
No. 2553216
>>2553199>If we impose a limit on population, there should always be someone younger than them if they chose to have children.My question was to antinatalists. They can't have children, because all procreation will end. So there will be no younger people, ever again.
>this happened because of gender-selective abortion being encouraged and abuse/abandonment of baby girls.It wasn't really explicitly encouraged, it's just what people did. How would you stop sex-selective abortion and infanticide if you imposed a limit? Just saying 'we won't encourage the idea baby girls are lesser' won't work since it wasn't encouraged under Mao either, but it's a ubiquitous moid idea. There is female infanticide all over the world like in India too, moids are the same everywhere.
>I find parent content everywhere all the time. That would be very annoying, I can't imagine.
>you live in a mostly good country/societyNot at all, my country is a shithole and I wish I could move to America. Just in this one particular respect the Evangelical Protestants in America seem obsessed with being anti-abortion/anti-bc which is unusual basically in every other first world country since most other countries don't really have much Evangelical Protestantism. Most countries in the OECD have far below-replacement fertility (so much less than 2 children per women) and many of them are now beginning to see it as an issue and panic, especially countries that don't allow much immigration like South Korea and Japan. Personally I don't think it necessarily is a big problem to have below-replacement fertility as long as there's still a sizeable population of young people being born (although it remains to be seen how it will pan out in countries like Japan) but that's not antinatalist at all, and I was asking antinatalists about their opinions.
No. 2553235
>>2553229>Where is all that money even going?'administration'
>>2553233I have to hand it to you, that is one hell of a controversial view to hold if you use this site.
No. 2553279
>>2552627Ayrt. I didn't say you should only date for money, and even if you do date for money, you should never only rely on his income.
>>2552614Women are
already dating for love and personality, and those women are dating ugly men too.
No. 2553281
>>2553276Voluntarily altering your face/body with cosmetic surgery shaves away little bits off of your soul's enamel and makes it weak and easier to penetrate (for demons)
Also how narcissistic is it to think literally anybody cares about the shape of your nose? You're not that important.
No. 2553297
>>2553276I legitimately think that Chinese moms that force their daughters to get the eyelid surgery and Lebo moms that pressure their daughters to get nose jobs as 'gifts' are straight up
abusive.
No. 2553304
>>2553282It's funny how he tries to blend in yet doesn't understand us at all
>chastity will protect you from sex pests and fuckbois trying to waste your time because they are known to be so honest and respectful of your boundaries!>sex with some socially stunted porn addicted virgin who can't get a gf let alone pleasure you is akschually real romantic sex>chastity protects you from moids knowing you naked, in the age of AI>never regrets her choice to only have one moid as your romantic frame of referenceJust giga kek
No. 2553390
>>2553358As long as you aren’t a ddlg or a submissive it’s fine
>>2553368Me
No. 2553392
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>>2553365Omg anon it's "dog-eat-dog"
>>2553368I don't like the things femdom anons do, it seems autistic and weird. Outside of sex-fandoms and social clubs, most normal people enjoy taking control some of the time bc otherwise sex would get boring
No. 2553397
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>>2553392I don't know, I feel like calling it a Doggy Dogg world does far more to capture the vapidity and inescapable grind of image based modern life.
No. 2553403
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>>2553397Your post made me think of this show, subconsciously hypno-anon. I think rocko has a dog and is part dog tho
No. 2553524
>>2553500I deeply looked into it and the studies you are seeing are examples of decreased inhibitions in bisexual and gay closeted people, as I mentioned, not sexuality change. From a cursory glance they do at first appear to be about sexuality change, but they are not. Unless there has been new research published or you somehow found something that my mega deep dive didn't.
>>2553508I'm not saying it's not inherent necessarily, just that it doesn't seem to be built into the brain in a concrete way.
>>2553507That is an egyptian-ass theory…sexuality is stored in the pussy? kek I laugh but to be honest who even knows, it literally seems like no one has a fucking clue so might as well be stored in the damn pussy I guess
No. 2553623
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>>2553584This sounds more like something dogs are always thinking and saying about each other. Or "dog logic". A capybara wouldn't concern herself with such matters, for example
No. 2553636
>>2553631You don't have to say that at all, you're choosing to say it and it teaches others how you view the world. Women in general will never (ever) be receptive to the way you're presenting your worldview because only women who enjoy being submissive
and humiliated at the same time are going to enjoy thinking of themselves as an animal, while the moid gets to be their human shepherd. It's so easy to rephrase everything you're saying to make it sound less bdsm-coded and humiliating to women but you're choosing to present this info in a way you know will gross them out and annoy them
No. 2553645
>>2553637The analogy isn't perfect. The point is, two people cannot both be in charge. There can only be one person in charge. So in sex, there has to be a dominant partner and a submissive partner.
>>2553636Where did I ever say a woman has to be the submissive one? Women can and should be dominant both in sex and in daily life. Men should be submissive and obeisant. I'm saying, during sex, both partners can't be both dominant at the same time.
No. 2553658
>>2553652>mainstream tvAs if tv is anything like real life.
>most women are submissiveBut they don't have to be.
>I imagine one of you guys stopping to point out the phenomenon of automatic breathing or noises people make when they're eatingI don't see the point you're making here.
No. 2554166
>>2553281>>2553276We're a looks based society. People do treat you differently based on perceived attractiveness. If someone wants to get reasonable plastic surgery that improves their self esteem, they're not worse for it. I find the people most opposed to it just feel insecure about things they can't afford to fix about their own physical flaws and hate that others can do so. The problem with good or well done plastic surgery is that it alters the societal perceptions of beauty as if it's naturally attainable and others who can't fit that standard are seen as inferior. For example, moids will look at their OF thots and compare their partners to them and think "wow why am I with this person when there are women out there that look like
that?? I definitely chose wrong and need to upgrade" without any idea of the work that goes into those perfected looks or how rare it is to have certain features genetically just fall into place. It's definitely unfair. But for the people who feel better about themselves with little tweaks here and there that improve their appearance in a balanced and not excessive way, it makes all the difference in how they carry themselves. People who've been inoffensively average or generally attractive all their lives can't understand that though.
No. 2554198
>>2554188I don't think of those things at all, especially when it has to do other other women. The average woman is not hairless with breasts that have zero indication of skin elasticity.
>>2554190>I find it to be most often the caseSounds like you are keeping yourself in low places.
No. 2554211
>>2554191>I wanna make a rainbow!!! >How do you feel? >Like cookies!It’s like a fucked up caricature of what she
thinks disabled people act like after having a seizure. Weird how many people suck her dick.
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>>2554247Her makeup looks good to me
No. 2554613
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>>2554214>>2554247I agree. Makeup can only make you look worse, not better. If you're ugly without makeup, it can't make you beautiful; if you're beautiful with it, you're even more beautiful without it. Picrel, left is better than right.
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>>2554613thats not true at all, plenty of women who look terrible without makeup look prettier with it
No. 2554631
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Adding to the anti-makeup conversation: I never wear makeup, but on the other hand I also remove my body hair. Usually, from what I've heard, women who are against makeup are also against shaving and waxing their bodies.
Am I alone in this? Because I think body hair is really gross, and hairless skin is beautiful. And that's also why I'm against makeup, because it damages the skin, and no cosmetic can compete with good skincare. But I've never encountered anyone else with this opinion.
No. 2554643
>>2554631I sometimes remove body hair from my body just for the hell of it, but I always epilate my armpits. Armpit hair
does retain body odor despite what some may say, even with good deodorant. Ironically enough I do find armpit hair attractive on women…
No. 2554656
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>>2554643chiming in here to say, for all my stinky girls: this deodorant saved my life. i have very hairy armpits and used to get smelly all the time but i literally do not smell anymore, even after working out. it's magic.
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>>2554658I hate hairy moids. I'm destined to be forever alone because I'll never find a moid as hairless as my anime boys.
No. 2554735
>>2554631I currently don't shave my pubes but I do like getting my bikini line waxed if I'm planning on wearing bikini bottoms. I think showing pubes in public for either gender is kinda grotesque. Typically I'll just wear swim shorts that cover the entire area, but occasionally I want to show my ass a little lol.
When I get my bikini line waxed I'll ask the lady doing it to go in a bit and shape the front of my pubes into a "V", I find that so sexy. I'd be interested in maybe getting laser hair removal to maintain this shape. Waxing is painful and expensive and it sucks so I generally try to avoid it, also I have very curly hair so I get ingrowns no matter what.
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The zoomer/kpop finger heart is ugly and stupid and doesn't look like a heart. I hate it extra much because it looks like the finger symbol for money like picrel, so to me it looks like all those people are flexing money which is tacky. I don't want to be friends with anyone who uses it
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>>2554812it always looked like a realistic heart to me
No. 2555122
maybe it's just me, but the whole online discourse about sex and relationships oddly feels more engaging to me than the real thing, I've been in a relationship one time and in retrospect it felt rather tame, boring, and predictable, especially sex, but when I start to fantasize about one, get infatuated with someone I'd never talk to, or argue online about my insecurities, it makes me infinitely more flustered than it could otherwise possibly be, it's like I'm stroking a feeling that doesn't exist for real
even in my past relationship, heated arguments were more passionate and memorable than the actual payoffs, it's like everything about this kind of shallow socialization is utterly delusional, and that might even be the whole point, keeping up the appearances of a huge stake where there really isn't any
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Everyones acting a bit weird on the farms lately, i dont remember anyone being this sensitive over appearance or "femenine" bullshit and constant posts over how they dont get anything anons say or act dense and confused over simple things, theres anons posting like they borderline share behaviour and opinions with the same attention whoring cows we make fun of and it kind of bothers me, i ignore those posts but i feel like they become more and more prominent while this year passes. Cows usually attract people of their own community or similar not saying all anons are secret envious followers of cows but we've seen cowtipping, and sometimes its obvious they're just retards trying to get dirt on people they follow also lolcow gets mentioned more and more and social media from people who dont even want the concept of anonimity and would just use social media if they didnt get called out for talking shit
I wonder if jannies/mods notice an influx of new ips and noticeable newfags, or im being a complete retard kek
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It's not misogynistic when people say "The girls are fighting" over Trump and Elon. They ARE sassy. It's not that arguing and being petty is a "girl" thing, and no one seriously thinks the average girl "fighting" is on the same level as these two unhinged, embarrassing men. It's that the way they do it is similar to that kind of person. I think people just have trouble admitting that a large chunk of Twitter's soul is the most egregious stereotype of a teen girl (probably because of the underage-tier memes and stan culture), and using it constantly can make people act that way, no matter their background. If it was more like a voice chat in COD or Newgrounds, it'd also be fine to say they act like 12 year old boys (and it is like that sometimes with the slurs, but that's not what the "important" people are engaging in). On top of that, both those men are just very childish and petty in general. One's a spoiled Hollywood figure who used to go on talk shows and engage in celebrity gossip on Twitter, the other is a spoiled autistic nepo child with severe arrested development who constantly thirsts for attention, power and literally locks himself in his room to cry when he feels like people dislike him.
For me, this shit has absolutely no difference from an Ohio high school girl who watches Bad Girls Club and listens to Cardi B saying "Loool men always chase me after I kick them out. They literally can't handle it, they lose their minds bc they're so addicted to me. Some embrace it, some don't, oh well" with emojis attached. Elon's whole "Have fun, DJT!" right after dropping the Epstein bomb was also handled like a pickme girl serving "hot tea" on her ex scrote/baby daddy and lashing out because she secretly wants him to come back to her. It was also a very classless way to approach a serious issue, but that's not new from these people. The whole thing is a combination of the way they are, and Twitter addiction breaking their brains like it does to all boomers.
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I actually think weeb couples are really cute
No. 2555374
>>2555366I don't, hence why I think it's retarded to treat anime girls designed by a misogynistic company as "representation" kek. That's like saying petite women should feel "represented" by lolis since they share some arbitrary traits. But this is going into sperg infight territory so whatever.
>>2555367Disney adults are kind of endearing honestly, their consoomerism can be annoying but they're harmless and just having fun. If they can enjoy Disney stuff together and it makes them happy, that's cute.
No. 2555379
>>2555361Yes but thats about cows now, in my opinion, it happens more on random threads when any anon makes a negative comment about a random feature i mean, they're talking about characters and drawings from companies that add lolis and schoolgirl bullshit to their games
>>2555357 said, and anons are talking about it like its real women getting objectified or something like i could find multiple retarded tweets that sound just like
>>2555363 its the "i literally look like that anime character btw" but twisted to sound "feminist"
I think making fun of drawings with stupid fetish proportions and judging women bodies is different anyway
No. 2555384
>>2555379I know what you mean. It's like those anons have been calling themselves feminists for, like, 1 week maximum and haven't
quite figured out how it works kek
>Don't base your view of women around porn!!!!>I don't get it, why are you criticising porn tropes? That's so offensive to women No. 2555414
>>2555411>>2555406I get that some anons have raging BDD and it's not nice, but it's not hateful to
real women to say that characters designed by men for coom purposes look stupid kek. That is ACTUAL objectification and commodifying of women's bodies, and we should be allowed to talk about it. Do you really think Hoyo is trying to teach their audience lessons of tolerance when they put their waifus in pseudo-lingerie? Nobody itt has even criticised a specific body type, we've just (correctly) pointed out that anime characters aren't real and shouldn't be considered representation. I certainly don't feel validated by the average waifubait design that """"looks like me""""" (and I use that description very loosely) I think it's cringe and embarrassing.
No. 2555512
>>2555444>Anons compare almost every female characters boobs to testiclesI mean, have you
seen the way moid artists draw them kek
No. 2555537
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Some people "visually marginalize" themselves on purpose. I suspect the breadtuber woman in this video bleached her eyebrows not due to some eclectic aesthetic taste or a desire to be free from more typical beauty norms, but to signal "outsidership" out of guilt or a martyr complex about being "normal-passing".
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>>2555658
What’s hot about him?
No. 2555674
>>2555664Then she can just move back home to Sweden/Italy and find a job like literally everyone else. But if she's smart she has invested her own money and doesn't have to resort to being a wagie even if they divorce.
I'm not a fan of the dependent/SAHM-lifestyle for obvious reasons but you'd be crazy to think her life isn't preferable to the average 9-5 worker.
No. 2555716
>>2555702
Men who wanted to date you, and heard you express annoyance about the existence of yellow fever or indicate any degree of insecurity toward Asian women prior? Men will literally say anything, relying on race is a cope, just like saying "My moid HATES girls with small nipples and shoulder-length hair and redheads and blonds! He would never date one! He told me himself!". We are all just fucking porn categories to men when we're broken down into concepts, and none are truly fully rejected or desexualized, just less or more popular within a social framework or preference.
In general, there's no such thing as moving to a country where your moid won't be attracted to any woman and "therefore won't cheat", That's baby logic. Even if he found Asian women unattractive, it's not like it's hard to find other white women in Japan. The only way to avoid getting cheated on is to date men that don't/wouldn't cheat, and PewDiePie just seems like an asshole. Nothing he's done or said indicates he is a good man AFAIK. I don't know why husbandofags come here to defend scrotes who are public figures, they always end up embarrassed.
No. 2555727
>>2555711It’s really sad to see what kind of life they look up to, and they cant even imagine how anyone wouldn’t want that
>b-but she’s hot and takes pretty pictures all day!>and her husband is hot and their baby is cute!>and they have lots of money, in Japan!>you wish you were this pretty and rich!??? There are other things in life and he’s demonstrated well and often how nice of a person he isn’t kek. It’s not even that hard to get a normal boyfriend who doesn’t have a fanbase of incels that gas him up, and has a normal job that pays well. He doesn’t even have to be Swedish lmao
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>>2555826
What about all the white women in the weeaboo community who try to skin walk japanese women? This woman is naturally blonde with blue eyes.(race sperging)
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>>2555831
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>>2555829there's even a whole russian "subculture" where russian girls try to skinwalk asian women and call themselves 'nyashki' kek
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>>2555833This is her before. Let’s not pretend like weeaboos don’t prize Japanese women.
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>>2555829They usually get really rich and famous if they move to japan don't they? I don't get how when they're a dime a million
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>>2555835If I didn’t know what she looked like before I would’ve thought this was a Korean woman and not thought much about it
No. 2555852
>>2555735>We don’t know her life.And neither do you, so can you stop projecting your weird yellow fever headcanons onto others? Thanks.
>>2555708Yeah pretty much. All this arguing over hypotheticals in the vent thread is retarded.
No. 2555853
>>2555850It doesn't matter. She's a basic white bitch and could bleed japan dry the second she steps off the plane, like so many others. Do you think any
of the millions and millions and millions of asian women have considered the idea of using a moid's yellow fever against them?
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>>2555855I'm curious about "other" but I think we all know the answer
No. 2555866
>>2555853In reality, idealistic "basic" (and even pretty) weeb women who go to Japan get bled dry in
abusive modeling contracts if they're not already rich, manipulated, train-molested and creeped on by scrotes and end up single moms or fighting other women for attention from worthless Japanese men.
Like all other men, Japanese men are shitty to women local and foreign.
No. 2555873
>>2555866don't say that
nonnie japanese men are ideal and kawaii and would never cheat or try to fuck underage girls
No. 2555909
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this is how some farmers actually look like irl btw. remember this every time before taking nonny's bait
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>>2555902
you guys really disappoint me sometimes
No. 2555941
>>2555930I actually wonder if this is truly.an unpopular opinion. Do the ones that act on it not consider this very concept, just
feel?
No. 2556016
>>2556008Obviously don’t feel you have to answer but did you have like an
abusive and/or neglectful childhood? Or at best are you the youngest child of your siblings if you have any? Sorry I feel like that sounds like I’m being snarky/abrupt but I’m being genuine lol.
No. 2556337
>>2556274Related to this my unpopular opinion (tinfoil) is that the anons who always call this thread the most cancerous thread on lolcow must be its heaviest users. When I occasionally read the thread to see if anything interesting is happening in it and see hundreds of replies to retarded deleted bait posts about how someone in a sex partnership is The Captain or Pewdiepie is a godlike wonderful husband I just think it's funny, so I think only the anons getting heavily into the discussion actually get mad at the thread. Anyway,
>>2556141It's insane how filter-blind some people are, the second photo is heavily, and I mean really heavily, filtered. If it wasn't filtered that level of makeup would look horrible on that woman. I agree with the anon who said beautiful women who look good in makeup almost always look better (or at least as good) without it, with maybe the exception that some women with very fine/light hair or low facial contrast who naturally don't look like they have eyebrows/have very pale lips can look good adding just a little color to their lips or gelling/filling in their brows slightly. But good facial structure is obvious with or without makeup.
No. 2556431
All you need to be seen as hot is to have a decent body, revealing clothes and be a pick me blog, you don’t really need to be that great looking in the face. I don’t think this girl is very pretty but in the black TikTok community she’s considered like the top tier in looks because she makes videos where cooks a nice meal and then says “I can take your man with this meal” but Megan the stallion looks 100x better and gets called ugly by the same scrotes. So if you’re feeling insecure and you want male attention badly just do that and you’re good.
No. 2556447
>>2556431There are so many things in this video
triggering my OCD, particularly the chunky jewelry on her hands while handling raw meat.
No. 2556461
>>2556449The meal is fine but the premise of the video is so disturbing. Why are there so many influencer women whose entire schtick is 'being sexy and stealing your man' when they appear to have other skills or hobbies? I know she wouldn't get as many views just cooking food like a normal person but is it worth it to humiliate yourself like that on the internet for everyone to see?
>>2556442Western white moids seem more into 'health food culture' than men from other cultures so often they want to make their own food because they have some weird dietary restrictions. I also think eating with family isn't very important to most Western white moids so they're just not as used to the idea of someone serving them dinner, they grab something out of the fridge or make their own meal or whatever. At least that's been my experience. Cultures that put a lot of emphasis on 'family meals' seem to raise moids who want their gfs to cook for them.
No. 2556467
>>2556459It’s not that she can cook but it’s the skimpy outfits, twerking and saying she’s gonna steal peoples man because she can cook
No. 2556483
>>2556476Neither of those places kek, I live in Canada but a lot of my friend group are European immigrants and the Euro moids seem to take a lot of pride in their cooking ability.
>>2556478Nah none of them are sluts and only like one of them is an alcoholic.
No. 2556488
>>2556473cooking seems to be a way for moids to be creative but not in a gay way.
I think if woodworking and metalwork and shit like that were more accessible they would do those too
>>2556451white moid "foodies" make me so mad bc of this
No. 2556505
>>2556497I think it looks pretty good but I’m fat so
No. 2556523
>>2556510???black dudes are the second skinniest race of men in america, it’s ridiculously easy to look for rail thin black guys here
legit makes me sick, i hate skinny men
No. 2556581
>>2556567when they’re right, they’re right, anon. i saw what mts looked like at the met gala, her head is ridiculously huge
and square shaped
and she don’t have no neck! plus, she went and got that stupid ass fox eye surgery on top of that! she’s not cute to me
No. 2556611
>>2556602careful
nonny you can't say the truth about that here or else they'll arrest you for "scrotefoiling"
No. 2556619
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>>2556613
How it feels to browse lolcow with a healthy BMI and a diverse social life
No. 2556646
>>2556642of course not all experiences with moids are outright negative but this is fucking lolcow like why can't we shit on moids freely here? why must someone come and
>b-but not ALL men! if men treat you badly it's your fault! you must be ugly! my nigel would NEVERif I wanted to listen to this kind of shit I would go to plebbit dot com
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>>2556549
Fiona apple starved herself so moids would have "less to grab on to", after she was assaulted. Not that weird
>>2556613
I missed this drama
>bone rattlers
So tired of this. Yesterday I posted the image of a 19 year old with sagging forearms so maybe skinny isn't the worst to happen to women jfc
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Speaking of Beyonce, I think it is so utterly fucking abhorrent that she's allowing Blue Ivy to perform at her shows. Her movements are stiff and she doesn't seem into it at all. Also idk why, but looking at Blue Ivy's eyes and demeanor she seems autistic. She looks very sad and lonely. My heart just breaks looking at this awkward teenage girl growing up in the shadow of an international superstar. The tell-all books are gonna go crazy when Beyonce keels over.
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>>2556693Beyonce's eyes always look like that. She does well with rehearsed interviews but I actually believe link is real bc this is how every gay stylist described her bitd. Just nothing going on behind the eyes, lost, people directing her constantly. A lot of things get scrubbed like the unflattering concert pics
https://www.facebook.com/LNDHIPHOP/videos/throwback-to-the-time-beyonce-ruined-christmas-on-punkd-/565296007362015/ No. 2556721
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>>2556673they said that black guys weren’t as fat as white guys who’re aren’t fat as latin guys and that asian guys are skinny queens - so black dudes are the second skinniest race of men, as i said
it’s different for the female version, if that’s what you mean
No. 2556741
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>>2556721I don't understand this spam image. Why not just post an actual image of mariah from the 80s or early 90s?
No. 2556748
>>2556746You think she looks anorexic in this image
>>2556741 ? She looks normal to me.
No. 2556755
>>2556748This is a promotional image and I think she looks happy, healthy and pretty here.
This anon
>>2556747 is right and there are definitely going to be worse ones (marriage) but I didn't want to
trigger recovering ana-chan anons and she is still "skinny mariah" here
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>>2556619I’m not sure how I feel about the fact I choose to come here. I could lead a normie life but it’s so boring and dull compared to reading schizo ramblings on here. How else am I suppose to spend my time? Watching video essays on YouTube about SpongeBob lore? Getting into SNL like it’s actually good? I’d rather read a dumbass infight about fujos and loli/shota to be frank.
No. 2556814
>>2556812If this anon got her way
>>2556794 I wouldn't be able to point that she looks like she could make a mean casserole, in addition to shooting warhol bc that would be considered "sexist" to a recent rad-fem/longtime bp
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>>2556855Scrotefoiling when women disagree that lc should be a boring complainy hugbox when every anon already comes here when they hate moids to complain about them and doesn't feel the need to censor anons who aren't feeling the exact same, all the time
No. 2556915
>>2556910Yeah anyways pickmes aren’t human to me and you’re a man anyways
>>2556911Exactly, but these are kiwi scrotes any thread with real mods would know this but this one allows obvs moid baiters
No. 2556929
>>2556900I am listening, it's just retarded, insecure and self hating beyond belief
>I want to be superior to you by being prettier than youuuuu>I want to steal men from women so that I'll get his attentionnnn>men will never treat me bad in the future because that doesn't happen if they give me validationnnnit's like some sort of coping mechanism to avoid some deep fear they have regarding not being seen as desirable. if you grow up getting male attention constantly that stuff means jack shit to you and isn't anything to be proud of and they're telling on themselves by making it into a God
No. 2557117
>>2557105Misogynists have a weird "list" they go down to blame women for their partners cheating on them. If the woman does everything "right" they'll end up just claiming there was something wrong with her personality
It's typically
>Appearance/upkeep/fitness>If that's not the case then it must be because she wasn't putting out or putting enough effort into sex>If that wasn't it either it's because she wasn't cleaning/cooking/doing childcare>If that's not the case either it's because she didn't put in effort into communication, finding common interests, etc>If it wasn't that then she must've been emotionally abusive>If that wasn't it either then clearly something was wrong with her personality!It's so ridiculous kek I've seen men straight up say "she did everything right, I just wanted to cheat because I was porn sick/selfish/easily duped/etc" and they will ignore him just to blame his wife or gf
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More people need to understand that chronic pickmeism isn't just a risk to the pickme themselves. Pickme women harm others around them, even their family members.
No. 2557278
Thrift shops are gross and walking bed bug infestation sites. They're supposed to be a low cost alternative but got priced out while remaining gross
No. 2557301
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There's no such thing as an ugly person.
But there is such a thing as an ugly personality and shitty actions that spoil someone's beauty, and that's what makes them ugly.
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>>2556092That means you get to train them and mold them to your own liking. Non-virgin moids will compare you to their exes and demand you be like them and complain when you aren't, and they'll think they're hot shit who know everything about sex and won't listen to you.
No. 2557991
>>2557828The dog vs cat turf war is so childish. They’re different animals with different needs, the experience of owning one or the other can’t be compared. In both cases it’s always the fault of retarded owners.
Retarded dogfags can’t bother to train and socialize their dogs and tire them out when they’re full of energy, and they get aggressive bully breeds that they can’t restrain or manage just to flex and look tuff.
Retarded catfags let their cats roam outside and openly brag about all the small animals their cat has killed and dragged home, but then cry and whine when Mittens inevitably gets infected with FIV and mange, or killed by a pissed off dog/a Toyota.
Same people usually also have kids who they allow to pinch and torture the poor dog/cat because teehee they’re just playing.
No. 2558051
>>2557991Honestly whenever I read the dog hate thread it's like 70% people thinking pitbulls should stop being bred (which is reasonable and logical) and 20% people shitting on bad dog owners who don't train their pets or keep them on-leash (which is also reasonable, bad pet owners are a lot of the issue with pets in general) and then like 10% unhinged random hatred for dogs, but I think the thread in general is mostly pretty normal. I've never looked at the cat hate thread but the only real logical reason I can imagine for disliking cats is disliking irresponsible owners who let their pet cats go outdoors in the city, which I also judge/dislike. I'm not sure why anyone would go so far as to 'hate' dogs or cats otherwise unless they were the
victim of a dog mauling or something, but again most dog maulings are from a small handful of breeds that people rightly want to limit breeding of or from very irresponsible ownership. The animals themselves are essentially innocent, it's human behavior around pet animals that is the problem. I like both dogs and cats but I can see how letting them roam around off-leash or breeding dangerous breeds is a problem in cities especially, so I usually assume 'hatred' for the animals is not really for the animals themselves but for the social norms around the keeping of pets.
I actually feel the same way about exotic bird species and shit, lots of people will get parrot species that live like 70 years when they're 50yo without establishing who will take care of the parrot if they pass, and the poor animals (that get very attached to their owners and are very demanding pets) end up in rescues or pawned off on unsuspecting relatives as an 'inheritance' which I think is just evil. No one should be taking care of animals they aren't ready to take full responsibility for. I say this as someone who always wanted a cat really badly but spent like a decade putting it off because I wasn't 100% sure I could afford a cat or had the lifestyle stability to take care of one properly. I know several people personally who got cats and then were like 'uhh actually it's a lot of trouble' and just kind of abandoned it or gave it to some unsuspecting person who wasn't financially ready to take care of it either.
No. 2558098
>>2558062exactly. the problems is almost always the owner.
people get supper offended when you ask them to keep their dogs on a leash but it's basic courtesy.
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I actually love the new Apple theme. As an Android user I usually hate Apple's designs, but this one surprised me.
No. 2558128
>>2558104I found out my dog had some pit mixed in her dna and she is the least pitbull like dog ever. The only badly behaved pitbulls I've met were jumpers, but in an untrained baby sort of way, not a vicious way.
XL bullies with the frog bodies should be outlawed and people should stop breeding them though. deforming an entire dog breed like that should be classed as animal cruelty.
No. 2558143
>>2558104The biggest problem is they are an extremely unpredictable breed that was bred for fighting/killing with a very low threshold to 'flip.' It's not like the individual dogs are inherently bad, I wouldn't even ascribe human morality to animals, and I know people who had pits or pit mixes that were sweet until they died. The problem is just that you actually can't predict for sure if they will snap one day due to thunder, being startled, getting stressed out by something, etc. even things out of the owner's control, so they shouldn't be bred as pets the same way people shouldn't be keeping like, mountain lions, pumas or bears as pets. Sure all of those animals can be extremely sweet and loyal, but keeping them is a very high risk. There are like one thousand other dog breeds that are bred to be pets/companion animals so the insistence some people have on keeping non-companion-bred animals as pets (pitbulls are included in this but also any kind of exotic or large pet) just seems unnecessary. You can get pretty much any breed of housecat, at least like 60-70% of dog breeds, etc. and keep them as pets with almost no issue.
This also extends to less dangerous dog breeds that just don't belong in cities or on small properties, I always feel really bad for huskies/malamutes when I see people living in an urban townhome keeping like 3 of them, or keeping them in hot climates. Those are farm/yard/outdoors dogs. Same with a lot of other working dog breeds like border collies or aussies - they are my absolute favorite dogs but when people keep them in a tiny urban apartment I just wonder why. I know one lady who kept a giant german shepherd in a small urban apartment but the dog was a working dog that she had from back when she was doing search and rescue, which she just kept after moving into the city. I'd make exceptions for accredited working dogs like that staying with their owners after they move, but it baffles me why someone would deliberately get a working breed or fighting breed to keep as an urban pet.
>>2558135Worldwide they're responsible for most maulings and dog-related deaths, it's not country specific. They were bred to be extremely lethal dogs.
>>2558132I had a whole colony of feral cats my family cared for in my home country and they let me name all of them because they couldn't be bothered to name like 40 feral animals kek, I named them pretty normal things though even as a small child. Wouldn't let a kid name the actual family pet though I agree.
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>>2558153They definitely do exist. I once knew a guy who was saving himself for "the one" who also had to be a virgin.
>>2558159That guy I mentioned wasn't religious, actually.
No. 2558176
>>2558170At least with babies I assume it's often an accident. I was an accident/birth control fail baby (my parents were very responsible though and did a good job as parents no shade to them but they definitely weren't financially ready) sorry for blog, and I know other people who had or were 'accident' babies, so I assumed a lot of the people having children they weren't really ready for just had accidental pregnancies that they didn't feel comfortable terminating. You don't just accidentally pick up 3 purebred alaskan huskies from a breeder to move them into your 2 bedroom downtown apartment though, that's an actual choice.
>>2558159>>2558163It is taught to very religious moids, but most very religious moids don't really take it seriously or give a shit. Very religious moids are taught not to masturbate and watch porn either but how many of them actually don't? I know such moids probably exist but I think they're a tiny minority of all older virgin moids, and I also assume they're the ones who aren't constantly talking about how they're foreveralone virgins so maybe they slip under the radar.
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>>2558176>It is taught to very religious moidsIn modern Christianity, except in very fundamentalist churches, it's not taught to moids to not have sex before marriage. Which is a shame, because I'd go to church if it meant I could get a virgin bf.
No. 2558221
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>>2558214>>2558219quit ruining my dreams of finding a moid with good intentions
No. 2558226
>>2558221Moids with good intentions may exist but most of them won't have some notion of precious hallowed virginal purity to 'save' for a woman, even moids who want to settle down and be in a loving relationship often feel too embarrassed for the woman they really like to be their first sexual experience since most of them find virginity to be something kind of embarrassing. Almost all of them have been exposed to copious amounts of porn and the less sexual experience they have at older ages the more likely they take all their ideas about sex from pornography. The chances are high that if you find some 25+yo virgin Christian moid who was saving himself for marriage he already has ED and can't even perform sexually on your wedding night or afterwards and now you'll be married to a moid with a broken dick. I don't want to be overly mean and negative but be careful, genuinely.
>>2558223Yeah I know a lot of fundamentalist protestant religions teach essentially that you are pre-emptively forgiven for sins, which makes them treat doing 'bad' or 'forbidden' stuff less seriously kek. Mormons ime are likely to follow rules to the letter but bend them extremely, so they do things like not drinking coffee or tea (because caffeine!) but 40oz caffeinated sodas are fine because god didn't explicitly ban them, or they do shit like anal or 'soaking' (sticking the dick in and not moving while a friend wiggles the bed) to get around the sex restrictions when they're like 15 kek. Catholicism usually actually teaches that sins are bad and consequential, but in the end I think most modern Catholics are not very devout and they will just not take shit like premarital sex very seriously, even if they're very serious about stuff like abortion or theft.
No. 2558240
>>2558231>>2558234So what am I supposed to do? Settle for something that won't make me happy?
>>2558226>if you find some 25+yo virgin Christian moid who was saving himself for marriage he already has ED and can't even perform sexually on your wedding night or afterwards and now you'll be married to a moid with a broken dickC'mon, that's just ridiculous.
No. 2558244
>>2558240Why would it be ridiculous?
>So what am I supposed to do? Settle for something that won't make me happy? No, you shouldn't settle for something that won't make you happy, but ask yourself how important virginity actually is to you and why. If you are young, or willing to date younger, you still probably have a high chance of finding teenage or early-20s moids who are virgins and not gooner incels. If you want to date older moids but expect them to be virgins you can either pray for a miracle or rethink what it is about virginity that actually seems important to you.
No. 2558247
>>2558244I don't want my bf/husband fucking other women. It's as simple as that.
>Why would it be ridiculous?Why would some 25 year old guy have erectile dysfunction?
No. 2558262
>>2558240>So what am I supposed to do? Settle for something that won't make me happy?Men are different from women in certain fundamental ways, you need to either learn to be happy with a moid for what it is or pursue a fantasy version of them that doesn't actually exist.
We live in a world in which virgin moids above a certain age are almost universally either voluntarily celibate or utterly deranged. You're restricting your options to a point at which I would say it would probably be healthier for you to become a 2D enthusiast rather than drive yourself mad chasing an impossible dream. If you're okay with that all I can say is good luck, I am pulling for you but I don't think you're setting yourself up for happiness this way.
No. 2558284
>>2558143Finally, a sensible response. It makes me think of the woman who went to her friends house and was in the kitchen and out of nowhere her friend's pitbull snapped and bit off her upper lip. She apparently knew it was hers because she had a pimple on her lip that morning. She needed reconstructive surgery. Pitbulls are shit dogs, and when they do snap, they do massive damage. they are violent and nothing can make me like them just because someone knew a 'sweet pibbles' once in their life.
There are also too many shelters lying about having a pitbull or pitbull mix at the shelters because they are the most put down dogs for a reason.
No. 2558304
>>2558042Is there really? Cause the only ugly women I've seen are those with a foul personality. Otherwise, I can see someone as aesthetically pleasing even if they're not stereotypically pretty.
>>2557528Elaborate
No. 2558341
>>2558287I don't think any of us here want moids to become sluts, but we are trying to be realistic because a lot of the times women get the most hurt and fooled in relationships is when they project female-typical psychology on men. We live in a time of absolutely ubiquitous porn availability, and most men who want to save themselves for marriage for real are getting married very young when they are at their peak of testosterone and libido. Expecting that you'll find a variety of moids to choose between (because presumably virginity is not the only standard you have in a partner) who will go their entire peak libido, peak testosterone years, for more than a decade since they first hit puberty, without finding some way to fulfil their sexual urges just seems like a very naive expectation. Older male virgins are overwhelmingly likely to be heavy porn users, like way heavier than the average moid. Would you unironically prefer a moid who has mentally cheated on you with thousands of porn videos and has a broken dick to a moid that has had 1-2 serious relationships where he's slept with actual women he liked? I think a moid who has had actual relationships in which he's had sex is much more likely to have good character and respect for women. Of course if you're also willing to get married very young, or get married to a very young moid, this may not be such a big issue but then you're dealing with the other issues that come with marrying young or marrying someone who probably doesn't even have a job yet.
Especially the verbiage of 'some men want to save themselves for the right woman' is just not really reflective of male psychology most of the time. Most moids who are virgins for that long without pursuing serious relationships have something wrong with them that prevented them from finding a relationship, or they didn't feel it was urgent because they were getting their sexual needs met through cooming. There are almost no moids who want to wait until they're well into their 20s or older to enjoy intimacy, virginity isn't really something moids are raised to prize. They don't have purity culture.
No. 2558348
>>2558341You only think that because you gave up, and it's too late for you.
If you were married, would you rather your husband watch porn, or have sex with another woman? Obviously the former. So stop saying porn is worse than having sex with another woman, when you know it's not true.
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>>2558350It's a tale as old as time.
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I love this stupid fucking thread so much.
My unpopular opinion, this is the best thread on /ot/ and an absolute goldmine.
No. 2558378
>>2558371>this is coming from someone who has been cheated onNo wonder you're so bitter lmao. I've never been cheated on before.
>If he cheats via porn he has destroyed everything for quite literally NOTHING.You literally admit that porn is nothing while adultery is something. So why are you so hurt by it? How can you be hurt by nothing? If my husband watched porn, I wouldn't divorce him. Obviously I'd prefer it if he didn't, but it's not the end of the world for me. But you literally think it's worse for your husband to look at flashing pixels on a screen than to stick his dick in some whore's vagina.
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Tokyo Toni is really pretty.
No. 2558386
>>2558378Uh no, porn is not nothing. If he was sexting OF girls, that is porn, and he'd have nothing either as they don't want him. So you'd be okay with that? And calling me bitter lmao are you a moid? Or just too young to be here? I'm not bitter about shit, I'm telling you my lived experience which is the purpose of a forum. Why are you fighting everyone who is telling you the reality? You think porn is not a big deal because you, a woman, project your woman brain into the man and think "what's the big deal he watches some big boobies bounce around every now and then when I don't feel like sex!" Because that's not what a moid viewing porn is doing. A moid cannot control himself looking at porn. He cannot control the frequency or the content. He will be watching videos of women getting raped every day (or most days), cumming to the thought of little girls being touched by the fathers (don't believe me? Look at the front page of any main stream porn site) it will spread like a disease in his mind and it has no limit or end. He will be AI deepfaking your friends pics, hell even your mums pics. I've had a lot of moid friends in my pickme days, I've had many that cheated, many that were coomers, and some that were both. The difference in how these men behaved around me was very distinct. If my guy cheats on me (and one of them did) its because he was a cheater, and I was dating a cheater. If my guy cheats on me with porn, I've been having sex with an absolute genetic wasteland of a creature, a sick creepy pervert. Do you watch porn yourself or something?
>>2558382Asian males are the most sexually degenerate moids on earth anon
No. 2558392
>>2558353Moids who get into actual healthy relationships are significantly less likely to be coomers than old virgins, yes.
>>2558371Yeah I kind of agree with this. Both would make me break up with the moid but I think I would be less upset and disgusted by a moid cheating on me (depending on the exact nature of the cheating, some moids do really horrifying shit like having entire second families) since at least that's infidelity with a living breathing human being. Finding out a moid was cooming to porn during a relationship would be both devastating and morally abhorrent/disgusting because he's seeking out rape on tape deliberately for absolutely no reason, just because he's so disgusting he prefers filmed rape to sex with an actual woman.
>>2558374This is my experience with religious moids too, I do know some moids who 'saved themselves for marriage' but they all got married by age 23 at the latest and had like 3-5 children by age 30.
No. 2558400
>>2558398that's not a woman retard
Can we please stop shitting up the thread by replying to bait?
No. 2558411
>>2558386>If he was sexting OF girls, that is pornsexing isn't porn
>I'm not bitter about shitYour tone of writing says otherwise.
>Do you watch porn yourself or something?Yeah, I like yaoi.
>>2558392>>2558395>>2558396You forget that if a moid cheats on you with another woman, he certainly watches pornography on the side. So the choice is between he only watches porn, or he watches porn and cheats on you.
No. 2558421
>>2558412Seriously. If a guy cheats on you there is even other moids who will (very rarely, but does happen) end the friendship with him for it. Everyone will look at you like "what a piece of shit he is, you're too good for him" even his own family might get on his ass and tell him he's a piece of shit (again rare, but does happen) But if it was porn? YOU will be told YOU are the problem, you weren't pleasing him sexually, you're over reacting, its natural all men need to do it etc (despite porn being a pretty new invention and men being perfectly sexually satisfied before it existed), etc. Even if he is paying for OF the most people will say (even other women) is "he was paying when porn is FREE? What an idiot" Really doesn't help when there are SO many coomer women or handmaidens who project a female brain into moids who also defend men using porn
>>2558411That OF girl has zero interest in touching your nasty creepy scrote irl, those letters are pixels on a screen, just the same as porn. What is the different of your moid messaging an OF "girl" (aka, some Indian scrote being paid pennies to pretend to be her in messages) and watching porn? My tone of writing is someone who is pissed off with moids and brain dead woman such as yourself who genuinely believe a male has a functioning, female brain. Ofc you're a coomer yourself, explains it all. And plenty of guys who cheat don't watch porn.
No. 2558426
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>>2558418>>2558419>>2558421You're missing the point. You keep going on about how the slut moid is better than the coomer incel, but the point is who's better than the slut moid.
No. 2558430
>>2558407Intersting, for me it was sort of the opposite.
Ex ony had 2 pervious relationships and only 1 body count. Not quite addicted to porn but had a LOT of coomer shit on computer and phone and made me watch his twitter feed as a phsyop (I used to be a terrible handmaiden pickme). Sex was really good actually. Never complained about the head he gave and sex was enjoyable. Tried anal once, never again, never insisted. Bad part was he always wanted sex and SA me at one point and cheated on me.
Current bf had a hoe phase, body count between 10-15 but the sex I have with him is lacking. Bad at prelude, terrible at head, sex is whatever, really good with his hands but that's it. He usually gets more turned on by what I do than vice versa. No porn, doesn't like jacking off, had 3 relationships beforehand that didn't pass 4 months, this one is 1 year and 3 months (might end soon tho).
How does this even happen?
No. 2558433
>>2558407I personally would not prefer to date a moid who had a huge slut phase but even so I know what you're saying, I think some moids who have a slut phase can be more stable and normal afterwards because they don't have the weird bitterness and fomo of permavirgins (who lbr almost never are that way by choice, and even if they are they often regret it later) and also because the ability to have a slut phase at least suggests he's likeable/socially well-adjusted. I know some former slut moids who are now in seemingly stable and loving long term relationships, although the most well-adjusted ones I know usually just were in a series of a few long term relationships pretty much back to back since their teens. Those seem to be the least coombrained and most likely to actually like women, not be pseudo-gay, have tolerable personalities and a sense of personal responsibility, etc.
Realistically it's somewhat natural for women to be attracted to men who have been 'vetted' in some way by other women, even if just in the sense of them having female friendships, but especially if they seemed to have functional relationships in the past. A lot of women feel a sense of unease around moids who seem to have been forever single and incapable of dating any women. I guess there's always the possibility of a moid having past sexless relationships, but that is pretty rare.
>>2558411Anon defending porn use is porn user herself, unsurprising. And no, not everyone who cheats is a porn addict.
No. 2558434
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All I'm saying is, don't be the girl on the left.
No. 2558436
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>>2558429>picrel spider is poisonousI am defending the spider
No. 2558440
>>2558426All moids are sluts, they're either sluts who get real pussy and get off to fucking real living women who find them attractive, or they're sluts fucking their own hands over plastic broken women who'd heave if they had to be in the same room as them. Normalfag doesn't exist in moids.
>>2558430Honestly your current bf sounds like mine, the one with 9 bodies before me. I only had slept with one other person before him, so was really expecting a lot from him. He really didn't seem experienced at all which caught me off guard, and like yours doesn't like jerking off or porn, literally just likes missionary with him on top and occasionally from behind, I'll suggest stuff I want to do and I can tell he's uncomfortable by it because he literally gets all he needs just from absolute standard PIV. And like yours, this is from someone who I would consider relatively ran through compared to myself. My coomer bf who had one previous sex partner would be up for literally anything and everything, and would go all in eating pussy, ass, anything you wanted, it was just the fucking was the least interesting part for him.
I actually spoke to a therapist about this. She explained she thinks for some men, they get these slut periods because they're searching for a connection with someone that never comes, and they end up moving onto the next. This is not all or even most slut moids, but just for a handful of them. They try to make connections work that were never meant to, and end up wracking up a list of sex partners in the process. I remember my bf alluding to something similar to that in the first year we were together, but it was when my therapist explained it it made more sense. I think she called it "demisexual" or something, when she explained it I thought to myself "so basically just the way a woman experiences sex then"
No. 2558452
>>2558434If he's a porn user you'd have to make the line like 10,000 women long
>>2558440>demisexualNonna noo, get a better therapist. Why are you talking to a gendie therapist who believes in demisexuality kek
No. 2558461
>>2558440Hmmm, I can see the logic with searching for connection. From what mine talked about it was more like pent up hornyness and anger. Yeah the attemps at connection were also there but it's such a weird mix.
Idk, does the sex bother you that much? Is he at least a nice person so you don't carry that resentment in bed?
No. 2558464
>>2558454Demisexuality is just a gendie/kweerio term for normal sexuality. Yes even moids often want actual connection in relationships, even if they're huge sluts who are more sex-driven than most women. Anyone who isn't totally brain-broken wants connection in relationships, it's not being 'demisexual' it's just being normal. It's also not some big mystery why people have multiple relationships kek, they usually keep trying to have relationships with different people until they find one they like.
I'm curious though why some anons are okay with moids watching porn (and watching porn themselves) but think someone having any prior sexual partners is a deal breaker as severe as cheating. Would you also think a woman was a ran-through slut for having more than one relationship? I would generally prefer for both men and women to date multiple people until they found someone they actually connected with long-term than just settle down with the first person they find, get married and hope for the best, which is what most virgin couples end up doing since they usually don't wait long for marriage at all. I know some religious couples who did that and do seem to love each other but others where the outcome was totally disastrous, whereas most of the people I know who got together later have had fairly stable relationships long term.
No. 2558480
>>2558464It's so funny how moids seeing women as more than just a hole gets its own -sexuality tag. I straight up told her that, and stopped seeing her after that sessions. But again, it was useful in finding things to read to understand it more. My current bf was actively in relationships with 8 of his past sex partners, only one was a hook up and he wasn't able to stay hard. I found it really strange when he told me about it
>>2558459I was seeing a therapist over our relationship, I was so obsessed with the idea that all moids consumed porn I was literally making my bf cry on a daily basis for months (not exaggerating) when we started dating. It was really out of control so I went to a therapist for my own sake. I had no evidence he has ever used it, and we live together now so I feel better, but when we were just seeing each other every day I'd have him crying and cornered. I'm not a pickme, but what sense does it make to date a moid just to fight him every single day? So I did therapy.
>>2558461For mine only one of his past 9 were hook ups, the other 8 were actual gfs, so maybe they are slightly different. I am an ex-coomer woman sadly, so it is a little frustrating, but I realise I've been groomed to see sex in a warped way by looking at porn so young (I only looked at gay stuff though) and its me who needs to start appreciating him as a human and not just a penis whenever I do feel resentment. He is nice and my best friend, and I have to remind myself I am with him for the whole picture, and wouldn't swap him just for the perfect fuck. With time it does get better, and I learn to appreciate missionary sex much more and see sex for connection instead of crazy stuff
>>2558463Moid mentality, to laugh at trying to understand your partner
>>2558473Moids don't openly talk about shit honestly. They are trained from birth to keep quiet and not speak about feelings, because only gays and women do. Also I was there to speak about my own issues, which involved my hatred and distrust of men, which included what I considered my bf's weird sexual history
No. 2558497
>>2558488Yes kek he was pleading with me saying he'd downloaded any monitoring app I wanted, he had nothing to hide and just wanted this to end, and I would just keep going and going, and berating him for how disgusting he was and he'd plead that he done nothing wrong at all. I never had any evidence to this day, 3 years together, that he has ever done anything, and at that point only like two months in I sure as fuck had no evidence and still did this every day. On our first date I demanded to see his phone and looked at his tiktok feeds, instagram feeds, etc as he had been single for like 5 months. There wasn't a single girl on there, it was all history videos, memes, yugioh cards, borderline autistic stuff. And still, I just kept going at him like he was the guiltiest in the world. He would literally leave me 20 min long voicemails crying begging for any way for this to stop, I'd beg him crying to tell me he's using porn, and it would get to the point he'd say "I wish I could tell you I was just to end this but I refuse to lie to you" this went on for months, idk how he is still here when I look back on it
No. 2558506
>>2558496I was not aware, I had only seen someone spamming the comic about how keeping your virginity as a woman is better kek. I'm just so used to lolcow anons (usually admitted heavy porn users for some reason) talking about how they want a virgin moid it doesn't make me think twice.
>>2558497After this explanation I can now understand why you decided to seek therapy anon, and am actually more surprised that the LGBTQIAAA+ ally therapist didn't shame you for this. Usually therapists like that tell women it's totally normal for their boyfriends/husbands to be porn addicts and tell them to watch porn with them.
No. 2558507
>>2558501>>2558499>>2558503No need to cope. Religious fundamentalists aren't even a significant portion of the american population.
The simplest explanation is the best: less sexual partners = greater love.
No. 2558509
>>2558500A lot of reasons. I had a past bf who cheated (irl, not porn), I myself was an ex-coomer so I really understood the appeal of porn so sort of figured "how can any moid actually resist this?" My one other bf who I was with for 4 years was a coomer, to the point it destroyed my self esteem and he picked it over sex with me in the end. He would get flaccid during sex and I'd feel so awful, he'd then promise he'd stop jerking off then go into the bathroom for an hour and come out and say he'd jerked off. Also just a pathological feeling that literally all men are borderline demonic and don't have souls, they exist just to torture and consume women, so I had to work out what my bf's poison was, and porn was the one thing everyone says all men do, so that was enough for me to literally torture him for it
>>2558502LMAO idk if I'd get away with it these days, he's not gonna be so used to it anymore
>>2558505Thanks for agreeing, as the numbers show barely any difference between 3 partners and 9
>>2558506No she was really understanding and agreed about most of my moid hate actually. She agreed porn is disgusting and people are too accepting of it. I think that's why I actually bothered to listen to her, even when she said the demi stuff, again when I did my own research it did align with my bf's sexual history. I always wondered though what she would have said if I said "I hate men, and yes that includes transwomen" if I'd have went too far or not
No. 2558510
>>2558504I usually stay off this thread when I'm working because it's too entertaining, I know it's full of bait but oh well.
>>2558507Religious fundamentalists are most of the couples who get married as virgins, the other likely group making up the '0 previous partners' statistic is high school sweethearts or college sweethearts who just lucked out with their first partner and stayed together from a young age. Which is great if you can get it, but most people do not luck out that way. The graph is not tracking the total population of all married people in an even way so even if the 0 prior partners group is 0.1% of all married couples it could still be 100% fundamentalists. Also christianity is not the only religion.
No. 2558511
>>2558480wow, I see a lot of similarities bewteen the both of us, and yet we're so wildly different. You sound like a balanced person, even if you're still working on yourself. I hope you and your nigel continue to have a healthy relationship.
I don't have a lot of hope left for mine and it's not bc of the sex. If that were the only issue I'd be more patient, and prob not complaining on lc.
No. 2558522
>>2558514Depends on the religion but people who are getting married at age 19-24 when they're not financially and emotionally independent from their families yet often face pressure from their families to 'make the relationship work' and often have young kids early in the marriage too. That's the 5-year divorce rate not the total divorce rate. Do you have stats for a 20-year divorce rate?
>>2558509This is one of the reasons I wish people didn't always claim all moids 100% of the time are porn addicts. Many are but developing this level of neurosis over it cannot possibly be good or mentally healthy, and people encourage the neurosis by insisting there are zero non-coomer moids. And yet somehow the same people who claim there are no non-coomer moids will also claim that virginal pure non-slutty 30yos who are 'saving themselves for the right woman' exist in high numbers.
No. 2558541
>>2558535Aren't you the anon claiming this definitively proves that having more than 1 premarital sexual partner causes high rates of divorce and 'the numbers don't lie' and no one in the study is a religious fundie? It should be up to you to prove how definitive those stats are, don't ask us to spoonfeed you.
I don't think promiscuous moids necessarily have lower divorce rates (this study is not just about moids but also women, anyway). I just would like to see the actual numbers for total divorce rates or divorce rates over a longer period of time, preferably including people who get married at average marriage ages. The whole conversation started because an anon was saying she is expecting to find loyal virgins over the age of 25, when other anons said that's realistic for a 21 year old but not a 25+ year old. So starting with a dataset that includes a large number of older virgins would help.
No. 2558542
>>2558535>see your study that proves more promiscuous moids have lower divorce ratesWrong anon? No one here thinks promiscuous moids have lower divorce rates, just that's it's intellectually dishonest to push the narrative "only marry pure virgins" when the reasons why the rate is like such isn't because "virgin women will be the best wives and never have a single bad thing to say", it's because women who marry as virgins are typically religious and don't believe in divorce or don't have access to divorce resources
This graph would be wildly different if it only included couples where both partners believed in divorcing bad relationships + had access to divorce resources
No. 2558549
>>2558514Well firstly, is this graph even in the US? I'm in a conservative religious country in Europe, no boomers ever get divorced here ever unless they want to be outcasted. They usually marry the first person they dated in high school too. Why would I give a fuck about those peoples divorce rates? They live completely different lives and values to me. Also anon, you realise this graph includes WOMEN as well? Are you saying any woman who has had 3 ex bfs is a used up slut now?
>>2558522Its really bad and fueled the echo chamber in my head so badly. I was watching anti-porn tiktok channels all day every day, and a lot of women on there saying "all men do it" and even "all men do it, its normal" which set me into turbo mode. I even posted on reddit when my obsession began asking for advice and was literally flooded with people of both genders telling me I'm a
toxic puritanical freak for not wanting my bf to watch porn. I actually did have one or two guys say they genuinely don't like porn and have no reason to lie to me, just to prove they exist, and then I'd end up cornering and fighting with them! There is no study in the world that has ever proven all men watch porn, and you will see a lot of men saying they don't like porn (though usually not for any good reason, its more like they see it as cucking themselves, boring as its not real sex, things like that) so they absolutely do exist. I remember a girl wrote to me saying her own pedophile father who raped her was anti-porn, because it was boring to him. It was learning that there is for an absolute fact men who do not watch porn who exist in this world, even awful sexually disgusting men. Something that opened my eyes as well was the stats around WOMEN and porn, the % of women who watch porn is so much higher than you would think, and then add on top of it the number of women who don't watch porn but genuinely do not see any issue in their moid watching it, its so high. So it made me think again, the stats say I should be watching porn also, but I don't (anymore), so there must be outliers. The reality is there is outliers to everything, both good and bad, all you can do is enjoy the moment and make sure you are always in a position where if something bad is going on, you can act on it and leave.
I have been living with my bf for 2 years now, the wifi cannot access porn and would ping me if he tried, and it never has. I am home 24/7 and the walls are paper thin, so he can't look at it at home. If he's showering or in the bathroom, he watches history videos and doesn't have picture-in-picture, so there's no way to view porn while he's doing that. He openly lets me see his phone, his pc, anything (to be clear I refuse to go through them, but of course things happens when we need to grab each others phone, or go on each others pc, and he has never had an issue) His phone plan bans porn by default. I genuinely have no idea how he'd even be managing to look at porn, but I promise you, if I had not went to therapy I'd be bringing him to tears about it anyways purely fueled by the "all men look at porn" pick mes and scrotes
No. 2558554
>>2558541>that's realistic for a 21 year old but not a 25+ year oldWhat's good for the goose is good for the gander.
>>2558542Again, the simplest explanation is the best: Lower bodycount = better marriage.
No. 2558564
>>2558554>Lower bodycount = better marriage.Low divorce rate =\= happy marriage. If this graph relates to marriage satisfaction, that would be different. And if you truly think there aren't many couples out there that are stringing along miserable and
abusive marriages, then you're extremely delusional and your opinion shouldn't even be regarded in this discussion
No. 2558568
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>>2558560You're not even married, so it doesn't apply.
>>2558562Yeah, if the two are me and myself.
>>2558556>>2558549>these stats apply to women just as much>you realise this graph includes WOMEN as wellIf the shoe fits, wear it.
>>2558564>If this graph relates to marriage satisfaction, that would be different. picrel
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>>2558585Nta but Texas contains Austin and many other liberal cities. Even the conservative ones are full of liberals, like on KoTH. The more conservative, the more likely you'll see women put up with endless bullshit before divorcing. Never heard "stand by your man" kek
No. 2558611
>>2558606The study obviously won't say it's biased, researchers never come out and say 'I'm so biased, my study is so biased.' The study authors are members of/writers for the Institute for Family Studies, which is a Koch-funded conservative thinktank, that does not indicate the study would necessarily be conducted badly but it's something to keep in mind.
>>2558608Kek anon are you hallucinating? I was arguing that the anon should NOT date virgins.
No. 2558616
>>2558612I'm not settling for used goods
>>2558611Again, I can't find anything in the study about that.
No. 2558619
>>2558615I don't know why these women can't just admit they want a typical shrubbery bg moid with a hormonal imbalance that causes low sex drive. That seems to ultimately be what they want, very giving sexually and no interest whatsoever in women other than the anon
>>2558616That's fine but this argument should be considered bait since it falls apart under any scrutiny and the virgin-lover anons just chimp out eventually and cycle back to their original point without ever changing anyone's mind or making any real point
No. 2558633
>>2558616You don't have to find anything in the study about it, you can find the study authors' names on the IFS website. I don't know what is difficult to understand about the idea that people don't write a section in their published academic studies stating 'I am so biased, oh yes, don't believe me because I'm very biased' kek.
>>2558617I suggested that too.
>>2558619Lmao at
>shrubbery bg moidbut yeah you're probably right. I think anons fixated on virgin moids are often coomers themselves into yaoi and 'cute' BL stories who don't really want a real moid with a sex drive and social skills, they are interested in the female-written female self-insert yaoi character type who is basically just a low-sex-drive person with a male body but female-typical mentality of 'saving herself for marriage' etc. I'm not even saying it's an entirely bad fantasy it's just a highly unrealistic one. You are more likely to be stuck with a coomer with no libido for real women because he's also porn-addicted or a closeted gay man, but this is just retreading what was already said earlier so no point rehashing it again. I don't think the nonna should settle for any moid she doesn't want either, so I wish her luck in finding her pure virginity-obsessed 30yo male who has always wanted to save himself for marriage (but being a porn-brained coomer is fine as long as he never touched another real life woman). May all anons find the moid of their dreams.
No. 2558647
>>2558633What are the names of the authors? I literally can't find them.
>I wish her luck in finding her pure virginity-obsessed 30yo male who has always wanted to save himself for marriageThanks
No. 2558701
>>2558684The study is crunching the numbers of the General Social Survey, it's called modeling. The General Social Survey doesn't publish graphs like that. You can see the source of the graph on the graph itself, which I assume you yourself posted - so you must know it comes from the institute for Family Studies based on their research, since I assume you found it on their website. There's a not-very-small logo right on both the graphs. The published study I linked is just a more in-depth study on the data by the same researchers, which is described in the blog post on the IFS website you got the image from. I know you got the graph from this link
https://ifstudies.org/blog/counterintuitive-trends-in-the-link-between-premarital-sex-and-marital-stability describing the studies, from the IFS website, which was written by the study's lead author himself, so all this 'I can't see any links between the IFS and the study's authors' stuff you're selling, I'm not buying either.
No. 2558710
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Just a heads up that the virgin sperging was posted on /v/ and apparently CC a while ago.
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/710915020/#710917162 No. 2558711
>>2558706IFS modeled and graphed the data, so I linked the published study that explained how they actually modeled it and that actually had descriptive stats for the raw data. The way a researcher chooses to manipulate data from a larger dataset affects outcomes or how the data 'looks' based on the interpretation, which is why possible bias is worth mentioning. Anyway it's not all that important, since we've already covered that this data isn't actually that interesting or relevant due to the ages (and marriage ages) of the people involved, the fact the study itself admits that the males in the survey do not recall their own sexual histories properly, etc.
I just find it curious that you keep pretending the researchers have nothing to do with the IFS, you couldn't find their names (despite the lead author's name being right at the top of both the study itself and the blog post you pulled the image from, on the IFS website itself), etc. Why not just admit where you got the graph (from a conservative think tank) and that you know the researcher a professor at a Mormon university in the first place, if you think that does not affect the reliability of the research? Why did you originally claim that very little of the effect can be accounted for by fundies when the dataset clearly shows 90% of the survey participants were actively religious and 10% of them had made purity pledges? I'm just not sure why you are acting so shady about this data if you believe it to be true kek.
No. 2558715
>>2558709Because several anons showed interest in finding out more about where the data come from and I looked it up since I was interested too. Now I'm just wondering why that anon was pretending so studiously not to know where it came from but I think
>>2558710 explains it. Anyway I'm putting the info out there for any of the other anons who were interested in/discussed the survey data.
No. 2558721
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Males have no reason to be fat. Women naturally carry more weight than men, and in the modern age, we're chemically lobotomized with antipsychotics and other medications that make us balloon up in weeks and lead to it being impossible to lose weight (E.G. birth control). Many women also have to tard-wrangle their scrote's spawn constantly and not have any time to exercise themselves while Brandon jerks off in the goon-cave. What excuse do moids have for being fat? None. Hit the fucking gym.
No. 2558725
>>2558711>the dataset clearly shows 90% of the survey participants were actively religious and 10% of them had made purity pledgesWhere does it say that?
>>2558709More like Anon 701 chooses to settle for used goods while Anon 706 has respect for herself.
No. 2558732
>>2558725I don't know why people keep speculating about what I 'want' in a relationship, I never said anything about wanting a relationship or even my sexuality. I was just giving the other anon advice and expressing my opinions about the likelihood of finding a late-20s virgin. I have said nothing about myself wanting anything in particular.
>Where does it say that?You can literally look at the posted study yourself, I'm not falling for this repeated trolling anymore. 'Where does it say the author name?' 'Where does it say it's from the IFS?' We can all see you are not asking these things genuinely.
>>2558726Yes exactly. They have better metabolisms to begin with and they are also metabolically far less sensitive than women, who can experience metabolic and hormonal problems from so many different toxins, drugs, life events, etc. Most moids are fairly impervious to this in comparison.
No. 2558744
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>>2558736Like you couldn't find the author names at the top? My bad, 15% had taken a virginity pledge.
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>>2558744Maybe I should take this pledge. It seems right for me
No. 2558753
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>>2558750
Why are we discussing the results of a "general social survey" promoted by an agenda-based source (and nothing else) again?
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>>2558756
Exactly! I can't use my legs today bc I used them to run the day before
No. 2558758
>>2558744Oh to any anons still following, the chart showing 'number of premarital partners and effect on divorce rate' that anon posted didn't even include male participants, since the 'objective' survey study they use for their research doesn't include any information on sexual history from moids:
>However, NSFG data are also limited in two key respects. First, as they are cross-sectional, they lack information on early-life factors which may contribute to both sexual behavior and marital outcomes. Second, they contain incomplete information on premarital sexual histories for men, leading to exclusive use of female samples in past research.So the chart in this post >>2558493 refers only to a woman's number of premarital sex partners.
They do pull from a second survey on males in the study but that's not even the dataset in the graph kek so the whole premise of 'look at how male sluttiness causes divorce' was a bust from the get-go when anon posted a graph from a survey about female behavior only.
No. 2558764
>>2558750That's not what 'percent imputed' means lmao. The percentage is in the column on the left, called "proportion." I know they're not teaching people basic math in schools these days, but a proportion of 0.15 is 15%.
>>2558753The anon who posted it has not provided any other evidence for their claim, so this is all we have to go on nonna. And for some reason the OP of that graph won't stop pretending to ask questions like 'where do you find an author name' or 'how to calculate a percentage' kek.
No. 2558774
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>>2558769
No. 2558782
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You know what this trolling is so annoying I'll just drop the screenshots of the blog where anon got that graph about 'male' promiscuity before marriage
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No. 2558783
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>>2558782And here is the paragraph right under that graph which explains that religion is the most likely reason for women to be virgins before marriage, despite anon's protestations that it cannot possibly be related to religion. You're welcome.
No. 2558794
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>>2558791What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
No. 2558795
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These look good and fit trad goth aesthetics just fine.
No. 2558796
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>>2558791>some other, unrelated studiesYou yourself said it was related
No. 2558797
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>>2558794Totes mcgoats. I wish you weren't so exclusive with your moid so I could borrow him nona
No. 2558798
>>2558794>okay so maybe I posted a graph about how women should remain virgins pretending it was about men, but like, men and women are the same, right? Right?>>2558796The male data is from a completely different dataset, as I said. You posted a graph from the female-only dataset. Do you have a graph from the male dataset that you can show me, or nah?
Also it was you who said:
>That graph and the study are by the same author, but are otherwise unrelated.And also you who said:
>Okay, that study isn't the source of data for the graphs anyways. The true source is the General Social Survey at the University of Chicago.Except the source is the NSFG, a female-only dataset.
No. 2558800
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>>2558798Actually, don't bother answering that, picrel is their description of the dataset they used for the moids. They don't even know if the partners the moids listed were before, during, or after their marriages kek. They took a sample of early-divorced moids divorced in their twenties, included cheating partners and sexual partners AFTER divorce, and acted like that's a good enough proxy for number of premarital partners. Lol, lmao even. Mormon 'social scientists,' not even once.
No. 2558988
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I find Hunter attractive, I don't care if he's a troon, honestly he has the type of features that I love on women and men. I would love to look like him honestly.
No. 2558998
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Sydney Sweeney acts the way she does because she’s the kind of girl who didn’t get a whole lot of male attention growing up and she became prettier later in life because she learned how to do makeup properly and show off her huge breasts. This is why she does stuff like go after men with gfs so she can see if she can take their man, created her own entertainment companies to shill herself as hot until it stuck and the bath water soap shit. You can really tell she’s just loving all the attention. It’s obvious she’s very insecure about her looks based on how she lost it when people were calling her a butter face a few years ago.
No. 2559016
>>2558998i was uggo when growing up and turned up ok as an adult, but at some point the attention becomes overwhelming and get moid fatigue syndrome, like you don't give a shit what they think and your simps become empty numbers, doesn't matter if they're one or ten (more likely more than ten too) they all say the same shit trying to impress you. actually, you start to understand attractive women from their teens, because you start working up on methods to keep them at bay or what to look on a decent moid.
being a pickmeisha becomes a stupid choice thing, like ok you were ugly but you aren't now, you don't need to do that much to get a moid. my theory is pickmeishas are mostly ugly/fat women and women who still feel ugly because they were while growing up. at some point you just overcome that shit and look up to stacies
No. 2559130
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>>2558988You too can with plastic surgery kek
No. 2559181
>>2558998She's not pretty, and shilling her as such has always been an act of conservative DEI. It doesn't surprise me that her family and a large chunk of her supporters are Trumpfags, or that the Trumpfag moids dropped her for not wearing makeup in her own home one day. It was never sincere with them.
Sorry, but it's nasty work to go from representing WASP beauty with Marilyn Monroe to Sydney Sweeney.
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>>2559060>You're a genius!Hehe thank you
nonnie No. 2559306
>>2559241It's mostly a construction of the pharmaceutical industry at some point. It's so cringe to see people be like "I went undiagnosed my whole life!" No sweetie, you were a normal person, but now you've fallen for a big pharma psyop and are taking drugs that make you act differently because
that's what drugs doIt's also crazy how this stuff gets pushed on social media. I started up a new Instagram account and almost immediately got hit with all the "ADHD influencers", despite having no interest in it and never searching for it once. It's a huge marketing campaign.
No. 2559336
>>2559241i think it's overdiagnosed (at least in men) but it's definitely real. but also probably a product of capitalism (being forced to push the boulder uphill everyday just to pay rent). at least for me my executive dysfunction was really bad, i could not organize my thoughts even if i wrote things down and had a plan, i would just sit there overwhelmed and paralyzed. my brain has always felt really cluttered and chaotic, the meds really helped me calm down down in that sense. but the meds aren't a cure-all, i still have to have systems in place to organize myself otherwise i'll lose the plot.
i do think the constant shilling is annoying as fuck though. i'm always getting rec'd ADHD content now and it'll be shit like: "did you know if you hold your pencil like this you might have ADHD?" like, sure correlation, but please be serious.
No. 2559359
>>2559241In small cases I feel that it's real. Majority of our issues is that we live in a world full of stimulation. Sugar and caffeine is in everything and now everyone is so attached to out phones and short form media.
I have an older (40yrs) sister who has never had any issue, she's gotten through law school, and has been a fully functional adult for years. Recently, she got really into using social media and is thinking that she has ADHD.
No. 2559530
>>2559359I've met one person, once, with diagnosed ADHD who actually seemed abnormal in some way. Everyone else was completely normal but just disappointed that they didn't have an endless attention span and razor sharp focus, started taking high dose amphetamines and then acting like a manic sperg while saying 'see, I am normal now!' The drugs never seem to make them actually normal or productive either, they just seem to make them hyperfocused on shit they already wanted to do, like gaming or decorating their apartment or something. I believe it may be real in a very small number of cases, but I'd guess 90% of ADHD diagnoses are just normal people disappointed they don't do better at school or in work.
>>2559526Self-styled empaths are all cluster Bs that's why. They don't actually have empathy for other people, normal people do though.
No. 2559544
>>2559359The thing is, Tiktok is boring for me, as well as youtube videos nowadays, i am part of the generation that did not had so much access to technology in their formative years (being poor sucks), people say that fast, overwhelming content is for ADHD people, but it does nothing for me? I wonder if i'm too fucked in the brain or those people are lying. Sometimes i feel like everyone that has ADHD functions much better than me and i am here feeling like shit and being unable to go on with my life because i can't follow ONE simple plan, tbh i can't even make my plans because i can't think kek.
I think that ADHD is real when it really makes your life worse and it does not go away with effort. If you feel like your life is ending because you can't do one thing that you really want to do and it's a simple thing, i don't know i just feel like that's not normal.
No. 2559701
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Trying to find quotable books for a project.
Idk is it just me or does it sound like he's depending a lot more on his partner than vice versa? The mother part threw me of cause I thougth he was talking about pulling his weight being le strugling artist and all.(wrong thread)
No. 2559959
>>2559954I don't really care about that as much, I get annoyed when people claim to be something when they are not that, or the opposite. Sabrina seems like the extremely awkward daughter of boring people with money who sent their kid to a theater school and paid for her to have a pop career. If she were taylor swift, it would be fine but she's
as a nona eloquently statedforcing this try-hard sexy persona on the masses and just plain sucks at it. The constant messaging that "sabrina carpenter is sexy" when that is not true, feels like social propaganda and people are exhausted by that, because of the troons
No. 2560003
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>>2559998
Which is not what you were claiming or were asked for. You claimed initially that increased number of sexual partners leads to increased risk of divorce. Now you're saying that in some (not provided in the study) data, the researchers swear they have a dataset (not shown) about males either having premarital sex or not, and that it increases risk of divorce. No info on number of partners.
But wait! They do have info on the number of partners from a much smaller subset (data for men also not provided) that appears to give a numerical estimate for number of premarital partners kek… except the length of the marriages is 3 years, when almost all divorces occur after the third year of marriage (picrel).
You've been incredibly deceptive the entire time, pretending there wasn't a 15% virginity pledge rate in this sample, pretending there were males in the original chart you posted, now you don't have a chart but you have this study (which I posted by the way, and you said was irrelevant) that has some male data they refuse to show in the study or appendix, but you believe the Mormon University prof when he super pinky promises that data exists somewhere out there, and it shows that virgin religious moids divorce less in the first few years of early, religious marriage than nonvirgin moids. Okay.
Oops forgot to add picrel, my bad.
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>>2560003Also kek that for the subsample of people (married for, like, three years!) which for some reason had a 10% divorce rate (even though the ONS data suggests that for the general population, there's only around a 2-2.5% divorce rate within the first three years, so this was a really heavily divorcing subset of people), there was a higher risk of divorce for 1 and 2 sexual partners compared to zero partners, but not for
>3 sexual partners>4 sexual partners>5 sexual partners>7 sexual partners>8 sexual partnersSo if you're having premarital sex and don't want to get divorced within the first three years of marriage, just make sure to have more than 1 or 2 premarital sexual partners, and also avoid having 6.
Oops I forgot picrel again. My bad again.
No. 2560084
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>>2560083One of the most interesting results of the Mormon porn use study is that married moids used hardcore porn MORE OFTEN than the 'dating' moids kek. Poor married Mormon girls
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>>2560035
Just got to the part where you skipped over the total 'relationship satisfaction' measure which shows having premarital partners does not alter relationship satisfaction overall kek. Cherrypicking the 'stability' data deceptively would have worked better if you just straight up lied and hid the source like you did with the first graph you posted yesterday.
No. 2560113
>>2560108It's in the original.
https://wheatley.byu.edu/00000183-2328-dc42-a7f7-7ba86d810001/the-porn-gap
>>2560105They can say that, but it's just speculation kek. Maybe all the divorced people were the ones who were virgins at marriage. We just don't know. How often do Mormons even get divorced?
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>>2560128
This is why the anons who discuss your boring topic without graphs, point out that they mean normal and well-adjusted moids, who reject gross pick-mes and slags, before deciding it's bait or the newest manifestation of bj-chan. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if bj-chan got dumped by her 85 y/o playboy bf and has decided upon the other extreme
No. 2560142
>>2560141What evidence? Can you remind me where the actual evidence was? All the evidence was either about women or didn't show what you claim it showed, but maybe I've forgotten something.
>>2560140Kekkkkk
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>>2560143
That's women, nonna. We've already been over this. You already posted that graph here yesterday, although you've since deleted it. Posting the same graph on a white background with the logo of the Mormon think tank taken off it isn't sneaky. Here it is with the IFS logo not erased.
No. 2560160
>>2560156You just posted a graph about women's divorce rates relative to women's number of sexual partners, so obviously you are talking about women.
>>2560157We already went over that yesterday nonna, scroll up there's a whole discussion about it starting with the deleted post (which was the same graph) kek. Basically no, religion was not taken into account.
No. 2560169
>>2560165No, the graph you posted is the same NSFG dataset from the Institute for Family Studies you posted yesterday, just with a white instead of grey background, and it comes from this Institute for Family Studies blog post which was posted yesterday:
>>2558701The dataset is a women-only dataset, as we covered yesterday.
No. 2560177
>>2560175Just now when you reposted the IFS graph you posted yesterday again after erasing the IFS logo from it, here: >>2560143
>>2560173This is a different study kek. This comes from the following study, which you already know, because we were just discussing it earlier today:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10989935/#T5The study which didn't actually release the male-only dataset, and found that there was no difference (in the mixed group) between zero premarital partners, 3,4,5,7, or 8.
No. 2560195
>>2560191TL;DR you're about equally likely to divorce within three years if you've had zero, three, four, five, seven, or eight sexual partners prior to marriage, but more likely to divorce if you've had one, two, six or nine. The data isn't separated by gender but if you want to take the Mormon author's word for it, he has a dataset in his basement separated by gender and it's 'about the same,' he won't publish the data though.
The pornography study shows that 75% of married men use porn (the dataset is almost certainly mostly Mormons though) and 21% of women with 1-4 lifetime partners report very high marriage satisfaction, a bit lower for women with more partners. We don't know about their husband's number of sexual partners though.
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>>2560251Anon should have her own chambers, away from the moid or lesbian
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Men with NTR, cucking, swinging, and BBC fetishes are all repressed bisexuals or faggots. The fact another man's presence is even necessary for them to get off says it all.
No. 2560556
>>2560517I don't know. I think this could be true but I also think these fetishes only occur during or after a porn addiction. The core of these fetishes is a power dynamic which has been perverted. Without being exposed to porn I doubt most men would have these fetishes because the social contagion wouldn't occur, if not at all then definitely not as easily. Look at Stalag fiction following WW2: men got off to the idea that they could've been sexually abused by hot Nazi überfrau because concentration camps were well-known. Their moid brains took a real power dynamic (a harmful and grave one) and perverted it for their pleasure.
I doubt it's an unpopular opinion here but I'd like to add that femdom, BDSM, and all the fetishes this anon have listed will never be arousing for a scrote because the woman feels good. Cucks don't care that their partners feed good, or even if they get AIDs or some shit from their bull (anyone else seen that Reddit post?), they care about their own humilation. Men who swing get off on the fact that their partner is desireable, reinforcing their ego. I would bet good money that most BBC or raceplay enjoyers are white men, but even if it's not, the men in these scenarios are enjoying a woman getting "knocked down a peg".
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though alot of anons may say they like female "autism" but they only like mainstream or "edgy" normal fixation or hobbies not genuine autism i mean take for example if a autist makes cutesy wholesome art of a unattractive/weird husbando/waifu then shes a pickme and has been psyoped thus shes not really "a autist", lolcow seems more moralfaggy than twitards sometimes
No. 2560700
>>2560671Poorly treated ADHD can look like BPD easily.
>>2560632I do think there's something wrong with people with ADHD, specially the ones that are completely unable to do something the whole day and that are unable to finish things and follow anything that takes more than 3 days. I just think that this shit can end someone's life when they are not able to do ANYTHING constructive. In any type of society work is needed, and some people with ADHD can't work.
No. 2560774
>>2560721You may also be depressed too, as executive dysfunction can be a sympton of lots of disorders, like depression and OCD. It can be also just be the way you are, because ADHD is many symptons, like hiperfixations, executive dysfunction, unregulated emotions and so on. I do think that the situation of the person should be taken into account, of course, that's why it's important that you stop and think: "have i been like this since i was a kid?", if you just started acting like a BPDer because your nigel broke up with you and your mother died, OF COURSE you don't have BPD. I don't know, but i agree that often the general context of the person's life is not taken into account.
No. 2560791
>>2560776>I know that's not the common consensus on here but it's a fact.I hate when this topic comes up because nonas admit to only viewing rape as violent or forceful. I don't care for male
victims since there's not an ounce of sympathy from them, but it's incredibly dismissive to female rape
victims to paint rape as this violent act because it doesn't look like that a lot of the time.
No. 2560862
>>2560782Okay, you got me? I'd classify that under sexual assault rather than rape but that's different from riding or sodomising him.
>>2560786I'm not "caping", sharing my opinion changes nothing for them. Besides isn't this the unpopular opinions thread?
>>2560787Yes, this is what I meant. She could also sodomise him. Of course it's far less likely to happen to a man than a woman but it's not impossible, and if it happens then it's only natural for a man to be hurt mentally.
>>2560791I never said that. Men could be coerced into sex (rape) but it's probably definitely rare due to obvious reasons. I know rape isn't always forceful, I've lived through it, but obviously raping a guy is more likely to be forceful. That doesn't erase coercive rape from existence.
>>2560797See above.
>>2560811Sounds like he was trying to guilt you into sex? Or trying to threaten you? Like he expected you to beg and cry and say sorry. He wanted to have some power over you, maybe, probably because he's insecure (maybe because he's young). Who knows? What a freak lol.
No. 2560907
>>2560862>I never said that. Men could be coerced into sex (rape) but it's probably definitely rare due to obvious reasons. I know rape isn't always forceful, I've lived through it, but obviously raping a guy is more likely to be forceful. That doesn't erase coercive rape from existence.I think you may be confused because I agree with you. My reply was a reference to the other replies you had gotten about men not being able to be
victims. The whole "he can just fight back" thing is still rape culture just packaged up with a pink bow, feels gross that nonas will say things like that when they should know more than anyone how this is used against women ultimately.
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>>2560787>How can a woman rape a man?Like this.
No. 2560920
>>2560912>Men getting molested left and rightand by
women, on top of that. that sounds like a fucking utopia
No. 2560929
>>2560912Point to where I said that? You're trying to strawman because you don't like the reality. You believing that men cannot be raped because they can just fight back still harms women, you are saying the exact same things a moid would to discredit female
victims. I don't believe that there are men being raped left and right but I also don't believe it cannot happen. But let's be real, a man is more likely to be raped by another man than a woman in a disproportionately higher percentage.
No. 2560953
>>2560907Oh I’m sorry nonna I read you wrong. You’re right.
>>2560912Nobody said that you’re just being silly.
>>2560932Yeah and if that happens then obviously the rape never occurred. We’re talking about underage or incapacitated men. It’s not common but it has happened, that’s why saying “it’s impossible to rape a man” is false. Nobody said it was as common as rape against women. Nobody said you should feel worse for male
victims. It’s just true that, in albeit very specific circumstances, women can rape men.
>>2560943>>2560947How have we, as a board, generally agreed that medical misogyny is real and has crippled women with shit like PCOS but not accept the existence of viagra?
>>2560951Older guys, sure, but not every single scrote
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>>2560961>Men can be scared and intimidated into an erection, especially if the person is older or has an authority. Kinda hot, ngl
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Males as young as 14 are out here raping elderly women and I’m supposed to believe female and male sa is the same? Idgi
No. 2560973
>>2560971kek we're matching
nonnie. i'm wearing fluffy socks and sandals with my unshaven legs out
No. 2560979
>>25609481. Saying "men can't get raped by women" does NOT harm women. How the fuck does that even make sense in your peabrain?
2. Men are not women. They don't freeze and coerced like prey animals because they're predators by nature. It IS a violent fight with them. You're projecting onto men again.
No. 2560990
>>2560567A moid who is like that will be like that either way, the reality is any relationship with a moid is a risk of some sort. You can try to minimize risk various ways (in particular by not dating porn users) but at the end of the day the least-risky thing is always to have your own money, career, self esteem and independence so if something goes wrong you can leave the moid regardless of how your relationship started.
>>2560623I think it's a bit of both. A lot of moids into those weird porn categories are probably in large part straight but there are a lot of pseudo-gay moids out there who start to get off on the thrill of gay shit if they watch too much porn. Most of these moids probably wouldn't have been cruising for gay sex under normal circumstances, but a lot of men are partially gay or spiritually gay.
No. 2561024
>>2560999A lot of states require someone to work and have kids before putting someone on it, and it's also even harder if you don't have access to the papers needed (a lot of people escaping abuse from partners or parents may have them witholding their papers). Also unemployment in America is at record layoffs, work at will makes it hard for someone with social issues to work, doom applying for months on end but bills don't wait for months on end, etc
Also Medicaid completely sucks in some states, someone with health issues Medicaid doesn't cover will suffer. It makes more sense to me to open my ears and listen to the reason why instead of just assuming everyone has access to the same things I do. It makes sense to me some women may be experiencing rougher situations out of their control, most women aren't just going to choose to have John's that smell like shit and give them BV and UTIs just because they don't want to work at McDonalds. That's why survival sex work isn't as common countries in Europe that have those programs that are easier to access . It's still a thing yeah but it's way way less
No. 2561178
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>>2561170That is literally a middle schooler uniform before any of you speak.
No. 2561181
>>2561152Among the people I know this isn't unpopular, both because of people's concerns about their cats dying/going missing and because of concerns about bird species and such (although locally we have a rat problem and at least outdoor cats might help with that kek). Almost everyone I know with cats has indoor cats or if they let their cats out it's on-leash (leash walking cats seems to be getting more and more popular). I know two people who keep outdoor cats personally: one is my neighbors whose cat was a stray that kept coming up their fire escape and entering their house. They got the cat spayed and registered and took him to the vet but they continue to let him wander around, I guess because he was already a feral cat when they got him. The others live in a semi-rural area near a forest and have had multiple cats disappear in the forest (which they think is due to coyotes) but they have like 5-6 cats at any given time and just seem to get over it whenever a cat goes missing and keep getting more. It makes me sad because I catsat one of their cats for 6 months and he was dead by age 4-5 due to probably being eaten by Coyotes. He was never an outdoor cat to begin with, I don't know why they let him out.
>>2561176My cat does that sometimes but the one time she successfully got out without us noticing she was whining and crying at the door literally a minute later (also there are like 3-4 sets of doors in the building so she never got outside of the stairwell). Normally when the door is opened she cowers and hides but every once in a while she gets weird ideas.
No. 2561185
>>2561028>Move to a different state Requires cash and can sometimes not be an on family circumstances
>Clean homes on Craigslist Gig economy is completely dead now, Craigslist advertisements are nearly dead + a lot of the time they require your own supplies + transportation and that's IF anyone responds to your ad. That's why I mentioned temporarily survival sex work can be situational and not just "stupid lazy women"
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>>2561178That's called a gakuran, and high schoolers up to the age of 18 wear it. Educate yourself, bestie. There's also no way to verify that's a middle schooler in the manga page, unless you're a goonette hero and know the source material. Care to share?
No. 2561193
>>2561188I mean, if he's 18, that makes it better than him being a middle schooler, yeah. Are you good?
>>2561191I don't read hentai manga so I wouldn't know, please explain
No. 2561207
>>2560623Based on what I've seen in the bad fetish art threads, they put a
bizarre amount of emphasis on the moid's dicks kekkk. It's like Wattpad-tier monologues about how amazing and cool and sexy his penis is, and even when the woman speaks, it's just an excuse to describe the dick in great detail AGAIN. Terminal levels of fagginess.
No. 2561211
>>2560623As a black woman I can attest that kek. White men who are fixed on black men are so gay kek. I once went out with a white scrote who asked me if I ever dated black scrotes (I didn’t, there are so few of my age here and they all dip into the snow) and I just wanted to see what he would say and once I said yes he got sulky kek.
They are literally like this
>your ex was …b-black? >how can I compare?!>you took…t-that fat..big..juicy..black..cock..now you are completely ruined …by that ..big ..black cock..It’s hilarious kek
No. 2561235
>>2561228Well i guess thats up for debate
>>2561232i think anal sex should go back to being called sodomy and should also be a crime
No. 2561240
>>2561203That's because those women weren't pushed into those situations anon. It's also not an "excuse" to point out barriers to why survival sex is a thing. You rode your bike to a work because you have a job. Most places aren't even hiring right now and mass lay offs with 100+ people applying for one job doesn't help. Hyperfixating. It also doesn't help the US laid off a bunch of workers so any DCF help will take months for people to get, even most housing options have 3+ yr wait lists + biking out of state isn't an option for people. Someone taking care of their sick parents can't do that, sometimes people with child custody issues can't do that, etc plus someone with children can't risk their housing
Personally I'd rather fix these issues so women don't have to do survival work. Denying it's an issue at all while refusing to hold the government accountable isn't going to give survival sex workers jobs, apartments, and government assistance right that minute
If you hear some women who have issues with unemployment+ trouble getting on government assistance may sell themselves, your first thought should be questioning what the US should do to create jobs and make government programs easily accessible, not calling desperate women stupid and accusing them of not trying
No. 2561245
>>2561240The very fact that “survival sex work” is a term that exists is really crazy to me. When did we even stop calling it prostitution and exploitation? Calling it work is just retarded.
Not necessarily referring to you nonna, don’t worry.
No. 2561253
>>2561246Those may have also had family support, may have had jobs already, some of them might have just rather get evicted over exploitation sex. People who are caring for family do not have the option to get evicted.
Saying they have bad character/low intelligence isn't necessarily good either. A lot of exploited women are often CSA survivors or have previously been trafficked. Being traumatized and taught your entire life the only way to survive to have sex should make you want to
help those women, not insult them. But again, I like fixing these issues instead of just telling them they're too stupid and should just be raped repeatedly unless doing your specific list of options that aren't available to a lot of people. Also if someone sold themselves once they're already too stupid and have low character, what would be the point of someone attempting to dig themselves out of rock bottom if, in your mind, they're too stupid and ruined?
No. 2561258
>>2561245This might be a little tinfoily, but I think the language shift is part of a psyop to shift blame from pimps and johns to prostitutes. If we call it prostitution and exploitation, then we have to admit that prostitutes are
victims in some way. Calling them sex workers makes it easier for everyday folks to blame them for their predicament instead of the males who created said predicament. We're seeing this play out itt right now.
No. 2561259
>>2561250Those sound like pretty
valid excuses? School costs money + trump already removed job corps. It's also not a "crybaby excuse" to point out abusers withold documents. How demented are you? You're more mad at someone for pointing out it's difficult to receive programs without documents than you are at
abusive moids for taking away said documents?
No. 2561269
>>2561233I think so too even though I know this is a VERY unpopular opinion. I have known a lot of vegans and they all either stopped being vegan after they dealt with their eating disorders (that they always said was 'ethical' until they suddenly gave up on it) or had ARFID/some sort of mental disorder that
triggered the veganism. Most vegans can recognize that other organisms with short intestines and small stomachs like cats need some sort of animal foods, so I don't think any of them really believe for 'scientific' reasons or even 'ethical' reasons that it's wrong for humans (who have some of the shortest intestines in the animal kingdom) to eat animal products of some kind.
No. 2561283
>>2561258Very on point nonna. I totally agree with you. The shift nowadays has just been “but they want to do it! It’s empowering!” “It’s not feminist of you to not support sex workers reeee!”
The males behind it aren’t even talked about in the first place. I would never be okay advocating for safe sex work and saying that prostituted women love doing what they do when the reality is just so in your face, millions of women live
abusive conditions and face constant rape, prostituted women are at a much higher risk of being killed. Not talking about them and the dangers surround this cruel slavery system is tone deaf. I really hate libfems. It’s really disgusting to even label it work.
No. 2561291
>>2561286There's definitely "tiers". If a woman
does 100% need to do sex work, very little other options, I'd rather faceless onlyfans or go go dancing in a club with good security or whatever or hell even working at Hooters. Women who do resort to that are often previously sexually though
No. 2561294
>>2561292So you'd know you have to get previous documentation, money, and a residence, right? What does a homeless woman with 6 cents in her pocket and her
abusive dad set all her papers on fire have?
No. 2561301
>>2561298>RoommatesCan be dangerous plus the process of getting a roommate can take weeks
>found someone willing to wait a month for rentLucky if your landlord is cool like that, not a lot are
>literally beyond impossible to find a job waitressing or cleaning homes in a month?This was also the 80s economy anon. You could walk anywhere and get a job. Back then it was weird to apply to 5 places and not hear back, we have people nowadays applying to 500 jobs and not hearing anything back
No. 2561303
>>2561300The records DCF needs typically aren't available via high school records, also if the person is old enough it might not even be available at least without an ID. Hell I'm glad I'm doing well for myself cause my high school shut down. If I needed records I'd be fucked
> If you’re low income you can get these documents for free.No, they don't.
No. 2561306
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>>2561303> No, they don't.Yes they do and you can use your high school records to obtain those documents if you have nothing else
No. 2561308
>>2561304"Don't go in this dangerous situation go in this one instead and put your kids/other family in danger too!"
Also in some states someone could legally do fucked up shit to you and get away if you rent. I had a roommate watch me shower regularly then when I tried to report it the police investigated a bit, then weeks later he called me and told me they couldn't do anything because I was renting over owning
No. 2561310
>>2561306>Specific provisions There you go
Also to get it mailed you need a residence
No. 2561312
>>2561311We're talking about someone short on rent, no?
>why can’t they get a normal job while living there?Job market is fucked. Even if they get a "normal job" they'd need to bark up hundreds up front for child care + again, as it's mentioned if you're unemployed it's pretty difficult finding a job
No. 2561317
>>2561312How do you explain all the other women who don’t do sex work but are also poor and can find a job?
>inb4 she has no help!In your hypothetical she does have help because she has someone willing to watch her kids and stay in their house until she raises the money from hooking.
No. 2561321
>>2561317Prioritizing. Some women may be okay with not eating, some may not have medical needs that require expenses, some may have friends or family that let them crash, some may live in areas with a better job market, etc
But I'm also more focused on helping women get jobs than bashing exploited women
No. 2561323
>>2561319Can you find an example of where this is a thing?
It's also not that "they're too dumb". Trying to allow moids to permanently traumatized women to the point they aren't able to get out is a moid take
No. 2561326
>>2561321That’s all excuses. There’s 1000 options a person can turn too before doing sex work. And for very solution you’ll have an excuse as to why they can’t do it.
>>2561323Why does that matter? They can legally do that. Look it up yourself.
No. 2561329
>>2561326Well sometimes those people do run out of the "1000s of options"
>They can legally do that. Look it up yourself.You have to get permission from the church, most of them will just side eye you and tell you no
No. 2561343
>>2561341Again, literally no fast food place, retail, factory, etc gives a flying fuck about cover letters. If anything they'll probably just blow you off at too pretentious and reject
>T.i use to write cover letters for lower end positions. If anything it made employers think I was autistic.I actually didn't even get a job until I stopped writing CVs
No. 2561354
>>2561350Also terrible hiring picks (I assume nepo hires?)
My local McDonald's rejected a bunch of honor students from the local high school yet somehow immigrants who barely speak English, never clean, always mess up orders, etc somehow remain employed