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No. 2469121
Are you a fat loser? Do you want to argue because that's how you learned to get attention in your dysfunctional household growing up? Do you have no friends? Well then, this is the thread for you!
Come here to bait and infight! Post something really stupid, and other anons will fight you about it! Prime topics are: abortion, clothing, eye colour, lesbianism, really anything that you can fight over!
Remember that everyone that disagrees with you is a man, so make sure you call them out for being men!
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>>>/ot/2458663The "rules" are:
>no racebait You can still do it because jannies are absent for 12-14 hours a day!>no infightingThis one isn't a rule we only added this so we don't get put on autosage like our last thread, Dumbass Shit!>don't reply to bait This whole thread is bait so you can still reply to bait!>rest of /ot/ board rules applyThey should, but no, they dont>farmhands are always watchingThey only watch for 4-6 hours a day because they're lazyDO NOT ENTER THIS THREAD IF YOU HAVE AN IQ ABOVE 90!Remember that everyone that uses this thread is: fat, ugly, mentally challenged or otherwise low IQ, attention-starved, juvenile, and generally a loser! Have fun!!!
No. 2469129
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>>2469113NTA, there are some very hellish things going on with "my people" too, so I kind of get it. This sounds cultural, rather than racial. I know racists like to argue that culture is downstream of genetics, but if that were the case, you and so many other women wouldn't be so miserable this way and brainwashing wouldn't be necessary to perpetuate it. There also wouldn't so often be atrocities (both socially sanctioned and clandestine) committed by other groups. It's a matter of who wins the fight, who has the most money, who has the most backing from outsiders for their own gains, etc, not consensus (the biological determinist argument is lazy and convenient for retards who want nothing to improve). I'm not saying you can end the problems since you're only one woman, but if you can find a way to exit that culture and integrate with one more aligned with your feelings, or just find people (or even just one person) with your mindset and escape together, things will be better. Don't give up.
No. 2469160
>>2469129Sorry but maybe the racists are right and it's a genetics thing, because my specific ethnicity were a bit isolated from the rest of the world until around 80-100 years ago, and all the retarded shit they do is 100% from being who they are, they don't wanna give up on it today and are proud of it and act like it's normal and everyone else is weird for not being like them. The few people who are different get ostracized if not punished with physical violence and murder, which I guess would eliminate the "anamoly" genes that makes someone not like that. We're very rare and few in between, and even ones who dislike it like me still like other parts of it all and defend it so I'm not safe around them at all. I feel so alone and too different to fit in with them, but I'll probably stand out in a completely 180° different culture, too. It's obvious I'm an "outsider" on my face alone. This is like the biggest reason I've been contemplating suicide for so long. I can literally never escape this, can't escape my own body and mind. It's nightmarish to have to live with this. Only true solution would be being reborn as a different person in a different place with 0 memories of this all. I've been fantasizing about that ever since I was a young child because I always knew someone was off, it's an innate thing beyond not falling for propaganda, brainwashing and torture techniques used to force you to be obedient. None of that worked on me because my nature is fundamentally too different from everyone.
No. 2469172
>>2469160It's okay to be an outsider, outsiders exist everywhere and even within every group.
Just find a way to get the fuck out of there. There's no need to escape your mind, unless you want to do the things the people you hate do. Your body and features will always kind of resemble theirs, but literally everyone with
abusive parents has to reckon with that. You don't have to let others define you. Fantasizing about being born another race is pointless, callous toward the white/Asian people who do get born in horrific circumstances, and just dehumanizes everyone like you (and yes, they exist, even if they get killed off en masse).
No. 2469305
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>>2469128Gender=Sex until some jew decided otherwise 5 minutes ago
(/pol/sperging) No. 2469321
>>2469271This is not me
>>2469256Maybe she misunderstood or something and replied to you. I wrote
>>2469160I can't even give you the name of the tribe I come from because there is 0 info on them online other than in the native language so it's pointless. My parents used to tell me stories about their lives before discovering the outside world, where they had no electricity, clean water, proper houses (they used to live in handmade stone houses), hospitals, streets, cars, etc. They got introduced to that in like the 80s. My dad is almost 80 and my mom is in her 50s to give you a time frame of that, she experienced what I mentioned above. They also had no education and lots of middle aged and elderly people are illiterate and some chose to go to literacy schools, my mom included. They were farmers that knew nothing but farming. They cured their meats because they didn't know of fridges, and they had fire to cook and oil lanterns for light at night. They were too used to their closed incestuous community that seeing a city for the first time was a big shock to them, and they rejected it all due to the big culture shock. Not that the rest of the country and government are beckons of human rights, but they're doing a bit better than us for sure. Even when my people got houses in the cities, they didn't like how it was designed and the idea of neighbors who aren't relatives, so they built giant walls around their houses for "privacy" (i.e. being able to abuse their family members in secret without being caught by the public), iced/tinted all the windows, built the walls from concrete and solid soundproof materials, have multiple layers of doors with double looks etc. out of paranoia of "strangers". Doesn't help that they were easily influenced by 90s terrorist groups beliefs and became very strict with no TV, no radio, no cellphones, no books etc., kinda like current Taliban ruled Afghanistan. Some are still influenced by that thinking and won't let go of parts of it, thinking woman working bad, unmarried woman bad, woman driving bad, woman going anywhere alone bad, etc. And it doesn't stop here, try to break the rules and do something without their permission, and they'll simply beat the shit out of you with 0 remorse and kill you even and hide it very well and get away with it like always. Because you basically don't exist if you don't interact much with the outside world, so nobody is gonna know you disappeared anyways other than your own killers. Your memory will only remain in
their minds. And I'm not exaggerating or being paranoid because of things happened to unrelated people either, my own older half brother got into an argument with my father ages ago and left the house, and 20 years later my dad beat himself up and self-harmed then reported my half brother to the police saying he did it. They arrested my half brother and tortured him in prison for days. Now imagine what would happen to me if I did something? All my half siblings sued my dad for human rights violations, he had connections to the court judges and won and got them all punished severely for it. Ain't no way I'm making it out alive.
No. 2469473
>>2469427Knock yourself out I guess. I don't live there anymore but we do still have a house there. The pictures attached are the stone houses I mentioned and they still exist until today, although abandoned in favor of the concrete houses. But left untouched to keep as "historical sites". BTW they still to this day don't have grocery shops/supermarkets or malls or anything and have to travel all the way to the city for eggs, bread, and clean bottled drinking water and other essentials. They still plant fruits and vegetables though and kill their own animals for meat.
https://bniadwan.wordpress.com/2016/03/01/%D9%82%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%83%D9%84%D8%A8%D8%A9/Another article
https://zahranland.wordpress.com/2013/04/04/%D9%86%D8%A8%D8%B0%D8%A9-%D8%B9%D9%86-%D9%82%D8%A8%D9%8A%D9%84%D8%A9-%D8%A8%D9%86%D9%8A-%D8%B9%D8%AF%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%86/Imo they're all useless and don't say anything important because ofcourse they're not gonna reveal their own retardation to the world, lol. They're also a very strategic war zone on the border in case anything happened with the neighboring country that can easily attack it first since all the people left in it are elderly stubborn idiots and they don't have any weapons on them due to many gun violence accidents outlawing its ownership and making them even more paranoid.
No. 2469976
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Art is valuable, but only in the realm of entertainment. If you're not on the level of Vincent Van Gogh with your art in Museums and people paying thousands for each piece, picking art commissioning as a main line of work is retarded and I'm going to think you're an idiot.
No. 2470010
>>2469976I am very sorry to read that your idea of value has been tainted by what is profitable.
>>2470006I was about to mention that he wasn't a great example for reaping the financial benefits of his work, also he shot himself in the chest.
No. 2470206
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>>2470010>your idea of value has been tainted by what is profitableNo. By itself, art is good for entertainment. As a
job, art commissioning comes across as very low tier in value. Tell me why it's "sad" to judge a job based on how valuable it is? I look at all these artists online bitching about going broke despite people paying them to draw shit, or pussying out of their own career by closing their social media accounts because they don't have a thick enough skin to handle one or two randos telling them that their art is bad. It seems wildly unpredictable because you can't guarantee that enough people will make a request, even if your art is good. So it seems to be going well, and you have a lot of commissions backed up, totalling enough money to make the rest of the month a breeze. What if 50% of those commissioners cancel? People meme the strategy of getting rich by doing commissions for furfags with fetishes, but if that's what you have to do to make it as an artist, where the fuck is the dignity? Art can be a great form of entertainment, and it's top tier as a hobby. Art is something I would do as a passion. Art would be the last thing I'd pick for an
income.
No. 2470240
>>2470206NTA, but some people see even less dignity in working under some company that can screw them over anytime, tolerating disrespect, dealing with obnoxious coworkers daily and engaging in tedious work just to keep the lights on.
If they can get by drawing, I don't fault anyone for doing so. It's not going to be profitable for everyone, but it's honestly fine.
No. 2470370
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>>2469976Most godlike artists get very little recognition. Simple art styles (like anime/cartoon slop) are easy to replicate and digest, and thats why they get shared more often than things like pic rel.
If you want a large audience, appeal to idiots. No. 2470452
>>2470390I mean, if he wanted to he would is a
valid statement. The point is he doesn’t want to, whether that is because he doesn’t see you as a person or something else is not relevant. It just means stop believing moid excuses.
No. 2470608
>>2470478I know a teenage boy around 15 (through family but not related to me) who has always been a vegan because his parents are vegan. He keeps casually declining non-vegan snacks by saying things like "if my dad finds out he'll be raging about it" like it's no big deal that he sticks to veganism just to avoid his fathers wrath like wtf?
I always wonder if kids like that are harmed by never eating meat growing up. Like if they don't develop properly and aren't able to process meat as well, or at all, as adults or something. Or if when they finally try meat as adults their bodies and brains go "holy shit?! THIS is what I've been needing this whole time!" and their mind is blown. It just seems so unfair to put that on a child from birth.
No. 2470749
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barring the lesbians i do feel a lot of radical feminists are just angry men don't consider them people. speaking from the perspective of having seen quite a few radfems (""radfems"") with boyfriends or who otherwise gave up the radfem id after getting a nigel.
No. 2470776
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>>2470772I will not tolerate ai slop whose image generators take reference from child porn and rape of women, I want to see real cats not what a aibro thinks a cat is.
No. 2470781
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Lately, I’ve seen a lot of people complaining about AI-generated “art,” specifically this trend of transforming photos into images with a Ghibli-style aesthetic. I completely understand why people are upset about others selling AI-generated "art" , I get it 100%. However, I don’t entirely understand why some artists are so intense about people using ChatGPT to “Ghiblify” a photo.
I just watched a video where a girl was saying that instead of using AI, people should learn to draw and be creative. Most of the comments on that video were along the lines of, “I want fast results, not to spend years learning, when AI takes me two minutes,” and honestly, I agree.
I can’t help but feel like there’s a huge hypocrisy in all the outrage over AI-generated art (again, I’m talking about its use for silly things, like modifying an image just for fun). This has happened with so many other things before. Take translation, for example, why don’t people tell those who use Google Translate that they should learn the language? That speaking another language is a privilege? That they should dedicate years of effort to reaching a decent level instead of just using a translator? I'm not talking about the dark uses that people can give to the AI by the way, I know it's a big issue. I'm just focusing on how intense some people get over people having fun modifying some pictures.
No. 2470785
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>>2470776>I will not tolerate ai slop whose image generators take reference from child porn and rape of women,So…because there are criminals and pedophiles who abuse technology to create illegal content, you think that means it can’t be used to generate a picture of your cat into a drawing? Why not? That’s like saying because there are people who use cameras to record pornography that means no one should record anything ever
>I want to see real cats not what a aibro thinks a cat is.That is a picture of a real cat though nona, it looks like it was just rendered into studio ghibli style drawing
No. 2470791
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>>2470789I should learn how to draw furries now after hearing all these wonderful stories
No. 2470799
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>>2470790I tried testing it too and i was so dissapointed that i couldnt do anything that wasnt a character soullessly staring at the viewer. I dont think it will ever be able to do something like this, so i am not worried about it. It will proly replace artists because people are lazy and need things NOW AND BAD BUT FAST and media nowadays isnt about making art but shitting out as many marketable things and hoping one sticks. I am glad we had centuries of amazing high skilled, high quality art, at least.
No. 2470802
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>>2470763Samefag I should probably have added, technically there are no official rules (neither global nor /ot/ specific) stating that AI is banned or warrants a ban, it just happens to receive a redtext
No. 2470849
>>2470829Well yeah I sorta assumed that was just because not many Kpopfags scroll lolcow, I agree sperging out about their favorite idle similarly to the way weejifags act is
beyond obnoxious and should be a bannable offense / in the written rules as unwelcome. But nonnas posting one picture that’s been rendered into a drawing via AI every once in a while shouldn’t be that big of a deal, of course as long as the image is appropriate and within our rules
No. 2470863
>>2470861I don’t feel bothered by anyone else’s feelings or opinions anon, I was just saying that I feel like as long as the picture doesn’t break any rules it isn’t really necessary for it to be enough of an offense to warrant a ban, and added that AI itself isn’t even banned and doesn’t have a containment rule included either. Really the only one crying is you in response to an
unpopular opinion kek
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>>2470863Again you havent answered why it bothers you so much people dont want AIshit here. Like whats your problem with the no ai rule, that its not written in the sites rules?
No. 2470881
>>2470868>You haven’t answered why it bothers you But anon, in the post you just tagged you can see that I do
not feel bothered by, or have anything against, anyone else’s opinions about AI…I was only stating my own unpopular opinion about why I think pictures anon render into drawings shouldn’t be bannable.
>Like whats your problem with the no ai rule, that its not written in the sites rules?Not at all anon, I was only including in my statement that it already isn’t banned or against our rules to begin with, so it being redtexted feels unnecessary; depending on the image of course. If they’re banning a user for posting an AI generated image that is indecent or breaks the rules that’s completely sensical, but banning an anon just for posting a picture of their dinner run though an AI drawing machine doesn’t feel reasonable.
No. 2470893
>>2470875A lot of AI image generating programs specifically won’t generate NSFW content. All the big name ones will refuse.
>>2470873This is so dramatic. I get the feeling that there are a lot of elitist artists on LC kek. I do think it should be a written rule since it’s clearly a globally enforced rule.
No. 2470894
>>2470875But why is the technology itself a problem when it depends entirely on what people choose to make with it? The websites that make these machines don’t just generate that shit on their own, pedophiles who render the images into existence by prompting them do.
>>2470886Sorry typo so I deleted and reposted kek, but yes once again the
computer doesn’t generate it from thin air because pedophile engineers load child pornography into the image references. It’s the behavior of the people who are working with this technology, not the computer itself.
No. 2470911
>>2470870The seething over AI is hilarious. You can tell the ones that start screeching whenever AI is mentioned are just jaded artists mad their art doesn't get any traction on their social media of choice. I'm not even a fan of Gen-AI as the people who rely on it for everything obviously put no effort into anything but the odd picture here and there for fun really isn't the issue they make it out to be. AI itself is very practical technology.
>b-b-but AI is evil!! Yes, not all aspects of Gen-AI are good, that's why it needs to be regulated. The tech itself isn't the issue or else you all would be advocating for the internet to get shutdown because cp exists on it thus the technology itself is ~evil~. Instant moral panic like retards.
No. 2470940
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>>2470932>the human controlling the software uploaded the picturesNo. The database itself is infected because the scrotes that made it 100% intended it to be used for that purpose. Otherwise they would have avoided scrapping child or porn images from their databases, which they didnt. If you use AI despite knowing how it has harmed women and children you are nothing but a pickme that values cheap dopamine over the safety of women and kids.
No. 2470943
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>>2470935it is and i hate the idea that "shorter than average adult woman = child" but i am kinda
sus of guys who are older and date girls who are way shorter and younger than them though. like 25+yr old guys who try to date girls who just got out of highschool, its disturbing and those type of guys would totally be a child toucher if they could get away with it
No. 2470947
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>>2470935Agree. I blame all those "coquette" girls for causing people to have those ideas. Fuck You all.
No. 2470948
>>2470940>The database itself is infected because the scrotes that made it…Otherwise they would have avoided scrapping child or porn images from their databases, which they didnt.I don’t get why you’re saying “no” anon, you’re agreeing with what I’m saying.
>If you use AI despite knowing how it has harmed women and children you are nothing but a pickme that values cheap dopamine over the safety of women and kids.AI itself is not what has harmed these women and children, anon. The people who abuse this technology are who are harming women and children. You’re essentially letting off the men who are committing these crimes when you default to blaming it on the computer. I don’t understand why it is that you’re saying this, because you clearly understand that it is the male human software designers who are the problem.
No. 2470960
>>2470953>>2470954>The internet pornography that was accessible by the technology wasn’t uploaded by a single pedo scrote …if it wasn’t uploaded by anyone, how did it get on the internet to begin with?
>if you are using it NOW you are using CP-trained softwareYes, trained by individuals who made the decision to render CP into the software. A crime committed by people who actively chose to do such. It didn’t magically pop up into chatgpt one day.
>>2470956>but no, ai is actually a hecking wholesome chungus technology that exists for the sole purpose of making ugly AI ghibli cat pictures! there is definetly nothing malicious about a bunch of tech moids making an AI with scrapped pictures from porn sites and children.When did any user on this website ever comment that they don’t believe there’s anything wrong with pedophiles using AI to produce artificial CP based off references of real pictures and videos of it? I don’t think your reading comprehension is very coherent, because my original post states my belief that anons shouldn’t be banned just for posting a picture that happens to be AI rendered. Thats nowhere near the same as what you’re saying.
No. 2470967
>>2470960>every single website, even art sites for artists bend down and accept AIshitthis is totes okay!
>one small basket weaving forum refuses to accept AI outside containmentomg i am being opressed i must screech and defend the honor of the cp and deepfake machine. How dare women using a website format thats over 20 years old and a reliq of the old web not want the cancer that has killed and made the rest of the internet unusable! we must destroy the culture of every site on existence!
No. 2470970
>>2470967>omg i am being opressed i must screech and defend the honor of the cp and deepfake machine. I think you might’ve forgotten which thread you’re scrolling anon kek, also I didn’t defend AI software being used to produce illegal material like what you mentioned; I posted in my original post, and in each of my replies, that I just think if an anon posts a drawing or other picture that was run through an AI render I feel like that doesn’t need to be grounds for a ban so long as the content being shared with us is within our rules.
>How dare women using a website format thats over 20 years old and a reliq of the old web not want the cancer that has killed and made the rest of the internet unusable! we must destroy the culture of every site on existence!Posting an AI sunset doesn’t destroy lolcow’s culture or offend its origin, of course the real art that we have the privilege of being posted by anons that use their personal time and talent to create it always a pleasure to witness and should certainly be prioritized; I don’t want my original post to come off as unappreciative of their art
No. 2470979
>>2470974But we’ve already gone over how AI isn’t included in our written rules
>>2470802 as being banned outside of “containment”, hence prompting my opinion that anons being banned for posting an AI generated image that doesn’t actually break any written rules is egregious
No. 2470986
>>2470981Anon, I think you need to lurk the thread before responding to posts. I already asked the question in
>>2470944>Do you feel like it counts as a low quality only if the image is very obviously AI and looks absolutely horrible, or even if it looks like a normal animated pic would it still be low quality just because it wasn’t hand drawnAnd received no answer. Would you care to comment?
No. 2470991
>>2470987Ok but I kind of specifically asked
what about it makes it low quality. Is it solely low quality because it isn’t hand drawn or isn’t the original picture that was taken?
No. 2471010
>>2471003>no one wants to see your dog, you shouldnt post pics of yourself or anything related to your irl self here. Please, read the entire post before you respond. It literally starts with
for example>Why the fuck do newfags want to treat lolcow like their personal social media page. Dont you understand what anonymous means.That’s not what I’m saying though, I find it funny you’re flinging around the term newfag when clearly you don’t seem to be aware that anons have posted personal pictures on /ot/ for several years now
No. 2471014
>>2471009But that doesn’t have anything to do with semantics. Your answer to my question was that the problem with AI is that what makes it low quality is it being ugly, so I asked if everything that’s ugly falls under that umbrella as well.
>if you love AI so much I’m not posting this in defense of AI though. I’ve said from the beginning all I think is that a user posting a picture that went through AI rendering doesn’t necessarily deserve to immediately be banned just because it isn’t a hand drawn/painted piece of artwork or isn’t the original picture
No. 2471094
>>2471086>and they’re penalizing low effort posts and images. If you’ve been present over the last 5 years you’d be well aware that this isn’t completely true, or at the very least the low effort posts and images are cherrypicked and it isn’t really practiced with all shitty posts
>It’s really not a big deal if one admin bans it whatever their reasoning.It’s ok if you feel that way. Just like it’s okay for me to believe that posting an AI image isn’t a big deal and doesn’t really warrant a ban, especially if they don’t consider it to be important enough to include in our rules.
No. 2471143
I actually do like the fact that lc doesn't allow AI, but for a completely different reason. It feels cozy and nice to have a place that still resembles the net pre-2022. Although I really disagree with the kind of critique it receives here. The whole "looks ugly and shiny" is a bad argument, since this is obviously not a finished product, but a work in progress. I can assure you in a couple of years it will look much more polished and feel a lot more genuine(on the surface level).
>but it takes no effort! that makes it soulless!
To be honest, I am really interested from what background these anons come from. I graduated art school a while back, but I remember being taught that art is a craft first and everything else second. I don't regret any time I have spent practising it, because it was very gratifying and enjoyable. But again, the self-expression part of most art is really only secondary to the actual craft and skill put into it. By that logic, eating your occasional burger or instant ramen should be frowned upon, because it takes no soul and effort, unlike some fancy gourmet dish that took hours to make. The truth is, imo, there is time and place for everything. Real artfags won't die out and starve to death, but the market will probably shrink, because the low-effort low-reward art commissions will be taken over by AI. People will always gravitate towards human-made art and there will always be a market for it.
>buttt it's trained on cp and rape
Tbh, I feel like that is a fair critique, but I think what we should be more worried about is the fact that AI is seeping in everyday life, and it's influence will probably quadruple in the near future, all while being trained on sexist and racist data and plebbit posts. Unfortunately, the problem is so much bigger than some CP materials that might have slipped through the cracks and soon it will most likely affect every woman. Making Ghibli slop is a very surface level problem in comparison.
No. 2471197
>>2470781It's insecurity and not wanting people to not need them anymore. They want to have the upper hand and charge people 100s of dollars per drawing and don't like the idea of people getting what they want for free and quickly in huge numbers. They feel entitled to other people's money and time.
>it's ugly>it's lazy>it takes no effort etc.That's the point, duh. If it took effort nobody would've used it lmao
No. 2471422
>>2470608I have a friend whose parents raised her vegetarian like them. She finds meat gross. One time I gave her soup that had chicken in by accident and she literally threw up. She said she didn’t know if she threw up because her body doesn’t accept meat, or because she thought she could smell chicken and it was grossing her out.
Either way, being raised not eating animal products fucks you up mentally (possibly physically) when you do eventually try some.
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>>2470608Here is a study that, as expected, found that the children who were fed a vegan diet were shorter and had more nutritional deficiencies than omnivores.
https://www.unisa.edu.au/unisanews/2021/july/story3Parents who force a vegan diet on their kids are abusing them IMO
No. 2471455
>>2470935To me it just seems impractical for 5’0 midget to be with a 6’3 giant kek.But short women look like..short women, they long younger at most, but I’ve never confused a short woman for a child.
There are couples who play into it though and it’s quite cringy when you witness it.
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Anyone else really dislike the coupling of a cool female character with a scrote that's basically a loser standing next to her? What romantic chemistry did Beast Boy even have with Raven? I can't believe DC fans really think this works. It's Mavis and Johnny way before Hotal Transylvania even came out.
No. 2471535
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>>2471452I'm average height but yeah, I love tall people and I understand why short/average people are drawn to tall people, it's just the ones who are obsessed with it and highlighting how tiny and smol they are in comparison who make it all weird.
I wish I was a tall woman dating a tall moid.
No. 2471562
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>>2471454This is honestly why I always thought veganism was retarded in practice. If being a vegan is so healthy, why do they always need dietary supplements, and are always breaking down with nutrition-based problems? If cutting out meat is good and "natural" for humans, why are veganfags always sick?
No. 2471617
>>2471581nta This is a take I hear a lot of non-artists repeat. AI is usually trained on high grossing artists and animation studios, while they use lesser quality art as counter prompts or whatever ("no Low Quality Art", and then it has been trained on what not to use, from my understanding - akin to people saying models are trained on CP to PREVENT it from generating the material… I don't know the exact explanation behind it but that's what I've heard)
Essentially, they're trained on
good artists. So this argument
>but if the so called inferior AI slop can replace you that easily maybe you weren't that good to begin with. is kinda moot.
No. 2471670
>>2471631If the person or machine replacing me is better than me then yes, it means I suck. I know the extent of my skills and what I'm capable of so I know what to watch out for. I don't interact with artists but they're very loud about their hatred of AI and never shut up about it bringing it everywhere that it’s getting annoying. I remember when the AI images containment thread was made and they still went there to sperg out about how much they hate AI in THE AI thread. Wouldn't want to be around such unhappy people. I bet they defend sampling, autotune, electronic music, copying a company's art style and selling it to profit from it as if it's not stealing etc., too and see no problem with it since it doesn't affect THEIR profits.
>>2471642I see, but there are some cases where people do like an image until they discover it's AI and act all sourgrapes about it. The different is nepos pay to replace the qualified person, while the foreigners can be better while also cheaper, in the case of AI it can be as good and cheaper depending on a company's needs.
No. 2471762
>>2471670>I bet they defend sampling, autotune, electronic music, copying a company's art style and selling it to profit from it as if it's not stealing etc., too and see no problem with it since it doesn't affect THEIR profits. I believe the main difference here is that an individual versus a company is selling something while borrowing from another. For instance, if Nobody Suzie with her 50k followers sells Pikachu with genderfag flags in the style of Pokémon's Sugimori, let's even say… during 1st gen with water color style, Nintendo's profits wouldn't even be affected. Nobody Suzie would also never get hired by Nintendo. Nintendo would never produce what she produces. The world continues to turn.
But if an AI is trained on Artist Elizabeth's style while she works for Company, and then Company fires Artist Elizabeth because the AI can make her style happen for a fraction of the cost, now we have an issue. I believe this is why one is alright and the other isn't.
TL;DR: If it steals someone's job who was doing fine before its introduction, people will not like the thing (AI).
No. 2471800
>>2471762That's fair. I should've added in my comment that the music part is more about the art being affected or created by computers and not real instruments and human voices, which makes it less "soulful", yet people defend it and think criticizing it is boomer shit. Sampling lifts from one individual artist, too, and uses their idea without permission most of the time or with a "I can do it better" air of smugness about it like "fixing" art and the such, yet people defend it despite literal lawsuits because of sampling being blatant stealing exit. Copying a poplar recognizable franchise art style and selling it is technically stealing the art style of the artist(s) who originally came up with it yet people defend it. It's just hypocritical imo. I see people commenting "you should work for x studio that you copy their style instead of the original artists because they SUCK now" all the time under that kind of art, but tbh I don't think I've seen a copycat fan getting hired after an originally artist quits or gets fired before, but I don't think it's impossible to happen. What I'm trying to say is the outrage feels fake and all about being selfish and personal gain.
>pick me over the AI!!!But if I went and asked for some art work in a hyper specific art style they can't draw in for free they won't do it, then they get upset when I turn to AI. Although they say people who use AI are stupid anyways, they still want them as customers. It doesn't make sense at all. It's like they don't know what they want. If people got their demnads met, they wouldn't have turned to AI to begin with. I use it because I can't and don't want to learn to draw, and can't afford commissions. I can't visualize my ideas other than using AI for now.
No. 2471821
>>2471804I wish I was young but I'm just a NEET with a financially
abusive situation lmao. I don't have any ill intent towards artists or anything but I wish they'd leave my lazy autistic ass alone and let me enjoy my computer generated pixels in peace without blaming me for literally killing them or something. I understand the porn and exploitation angle but there's literally nothing I can do about it and it's not entirely my fault or something. And I do benefit from the porn stuff when I create my niche yaoi and husbando shit, so it would be hypocritical of me to criticize NSFW AI. And I guess this is a wild take on my end but lots of artists admit to getting into art solely to create porn and some think selling porn art is a flex, so they're also hypocritical for criticizing AI for porn. Doesn't help that male artists who make porn use real porn to trace and use as reference, is art itself evil and bad because of this? I can't speak for the job angle because I think any artistic job is bound to br unstable anyways so it's better to keep it as a side hustle or just a hobby. I like to sing but I understand I can't survive in the current industry and make money from that alone, so I'm keeping it to myself and looking for a proper job in the field I majored in, and plan to use any excess money to get musical education and gear little by little for fun, without expecting any profit from my hobby, but I'd welcome it if it happens. I think there should be some ideal middle ground out there but idk how we'd reach something like that.
No. 2471860
>>2471800ayrt This is an interesting perspective. It helps a lot that you were able to explain your angle in a way that addresses things that I hadn't considered. I'm an artist (probably was obvious) with a distaste for AI usage, but after understanding that non-paying art enjoyers sometimes want their own ideas created but lack the funds, I understand it a bit more.
Most of the rage comes from stealing
paying costumers in my experience. There are smug people sullying the artist angle, making us harder to empathize with.
Thank you for taking the time to flesh out your perspective! (sorry the other nonas went ape on you; I was genuinely interested in how you saw this)
No. 2471897
>>2471800Sampling when Ice Ice Baby tier requires no talent and yes there are plenty of examples of slop like this and "artists" with attitudes as you've described, but sampling can just as often be transformative and lead to unique results. Similarly whenever electronic music in general has waves of popularity there are synths and presets and sample packs that follow trends set by innovators, sound designers, and artists, which due to their accessibility and subsequent use by second-rate artists beat to death any novelty or perceived artistic quality to these sounds especially for people who weren't following the evolution of the styles, but the original innovators who designed the sounds or conceived the styles were most often highly creative artists. Classically there were composers who were mainly conductors publicly and not performers, by the jazz era there were arrangers etc… or consider things like music boxes or orchestrions, composition is one oft-required skill (unless the mechanical device is playing someone else's music of course), but refining the performance qualities of the mechanical device producing the musical results is itself an artistic process not directly associated with playing an instrument yourself but sharing some of the same creative and expressive concerns. Arranging electronic music in a DAW is analogous to this and similarly has a vast range of quality between low effort low creativity low talent whatever and masterful artistic process. Sometimes electronic music is played with interfaces like traditional instruments (keyboards, guitar controllers, wind controllers), but this is not necessary for the art to be good, there are many factors and many dimensions to be creative within, and plenty of examples where the notes were played rather than programmed but the results were lackluster elsewhere, say sound design or composition. In any case, making electronic music isn't just hitting a button and having the computer make it for you. It can be, and some things like this even become popular, but this is also the stuff that dates and is forgotten or retrospectively not respected. It should also be pointed out tons of music that is 100% played live on real instruments is also stolen and not particularly creative.
No. 2472056
>>2471860Thank you for understanding and being civil.
>>2471897Interesting, but similar to the AI art debate, having everything easily available have this opposite effect where it attracts lazy people who don't want to put in effort. The difference is with AI images it's easier to conjur up any random imagery and type it down as a prompt, but with making music, it requires more thinking and having what it takes to build a song up and make it sound good as you mentioned, but someone getting into DAWs and electronic music specifically because it's an easy shortcut to them probably has no ideas for new songs and expects them to happen randomly. You need to have minimal music theory knowledge to make it work, which I doubt someone using DAWs and making electronic music would be interested in because to them, the whole point is it's supposed to be easier and not require any revision of any sort so they assemble random sounds together and see if it works. It could be my personal taste ofcourse but majority of electronic music and sampled songs sound awful to me, and there are times where the sampled parts don't even fit the song using it because it's out tune/key or off rhythm or getting repetitive and annoying and so on, because the people making the music don't have the vision and understanding of what makes a song good, but still want to do it anyways and get famous and make money. Not denying there are people who make AI images with glaring mistakes and try to sell them or anything, and I do find it hilarious when they do so and even funnier that there are people willing to pay, but just like the electronic and sampled music I dislike, there are people out there who are willing to listen to/buy/support it creating a market and letting those people oversaturate the scene. Not really the tool's fault but the people using it.
>>2472020I mentioned in my posts that Indian and Chinese workers are cheaper though, did you miss that? Also knowing the people of my country, the Indians are definitely better. Most of the people I went to university with couldn't do their own work, exams, projects and had to pay someone to do it for them. They wouldn't survive the job market at all with their nonexistent skills or knowledge, hence why Indians and Chinese take their jobs easily, they're simply unironically smarter and had better education. Our country and people are a bit behind on lots of fields and jobs so far and are making extremely slow progress.
No. 2472113
>>2472056Your exposure to electronic works across various styles is clearly quite limited for you to have this outlook. For works based entirely on sampling with strong composition / arrangement you should check out Entroducing by DJ Shadow or Since I Left You by The Avalanches, fairly well-known / entry-level records (deservedly so), not particularly obscure unless your knowledge is entirely Top 40. Both of these records required an immense amount of work, creativity, refinement, and at the very least basic music theory and arrangement knowledge. There are almost certainly tens of thousands of examples of electronic artists since the genre began to take prominence in the late 1960s who are/were skilled musicians as composers, arrangers, performers, etc, it's almost arbitrary to name examples because there are so many in so many different subgenres. I'm not denying that there exist people as you've described, but first off, all modern recorded music is made in a DAW regardless of genre, and second off your set theory is wrong as being interested in DAWs or electronic music does not guarantee the budding artist is uninterested in composition or theory. Just like traditional forms of music, to make good electronic music it
>requires more thinking and having what it takes to build a song up and make it sound goodIdeas coming "randomly" is actually the end goal in all music creation because with enough knowledge and experience you build up the vocabulary to ideate freely with the instrument or interface as an extension of yourself. Also, you'd be surprised, even the most retarded shit generally goes through many iterations of revision. By the way did you know that the chorale from Beethoven's 9th ("Ode To Joy" – the most recognizable part of the symphony), was not written by him, but was a much older German folk song interpolated and arranged into his composition?
No. 2472138
>>2472113Should've mentioned that I enjoy late 2000s-early 2010s electropop, so I don't entirely hate it. There's a specific team that I enjoyed multiple compositions of, but they created things from scratch rather than sampling so that gave them more freedom, and the vocalists that worked with them took the songs to a whole new level.
It's the forbidden genre though, can't post it. I do enjoy synths and synth pop mostly. But the club dancing, EDM, dubstep subset gives me headaches. And usually, I enjoy the original tracks where the samples are from than the track sampling them, something about the latter always sounds off whether I know it's sampling or not.
No. 2472142
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Ana de Armas is pretty, but she's not the knock-out, insane, supernatural beauty that everyone touts her to be. Although, I admit that my opinion may be biased from the fact that I don't really like that she appears naked in like 90% of her roles
No. 2472248
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Sick of constantly seeing garbage like this
No. 2472565
>>2472547>>2472560NTA but my rebuttal is men are pigs and if they're already stealthing at incredibly high rates (the one birth control that they CAN use), what would stop them from skipping the pill or nuvaring or lying about their implant/IUD equivalent?
>>2472546 is correct, mandatory vasectomy at 25.
No. 2472908
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>>2472616CATHTILIAN THPANITH THOUNDTH BETTER THAN LATIN THPANITH
I’M FROM BARTHELONA
No. 2473643
>>2473284AYRT, two reasons: the first is that I do not want to do any permanent or surgical modifications to anybody under the age of 18. Troons love salivating over "corrupting" children and teenagers and having them permanently alter their bodies for their own agenda and coom, and I will not stoop to their level.
The second reason is honestly because of what happened to Jazz Jennings. He transitioned when he was so young, his genitals and other tissues that grow during puberty were stunted. So not only did he never get a normal sex drive, but he had a completely botched surgery that could not be repaired despite all the revisions, because he point blank did not have enough tissue for construction. I want these men to shoot blanks, not turned into eunuchs or disfigured.
Everything has completely matured and stopped growing on everybody by 25 at the LATEST, even on late bloomers. I'm a woman, so I know how to be considerate and empathetic when it comes to enacting laws. (Not implying you are being callous or evil btw, just saying that I wouldn't disfigure men out of carelessness when enacting legislation, on an objective level, the way men seem to be fond of.)
No. 2473674
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I was gonna post this in Amerifags but after reading it typed out I realized it’s more akin to unpopular opinions. I kinda like JD Vance. And I don’t mean this in a crushy way, I just mean like I feel happy when I see him. Not the same type of happy I feel when I see my husband or my parents obviously, but like when you see your favorite actor in a movie or your favorite model walking the runway!
No. 2473691
(repost because muh spellcheck lol)
One of the reasons birth rates are falling below replacement is that populations have simply grown too large to be reasonably sustainable. Through greed, most humans have been carelessly having children without any thought to the conservation of resources necessary to keep us alive and healthy as a species. We have failed our most vulnerable populations (the elderly, the physically and mentally disabled, the homeless, and others) by failing to implement reasonable and sustainable social welfare policies and practices to ease the burden on society by helping those who can be helped to become functioning individuals. I unironically think that embracing euthanasia instead of selfishly clinging to the lives of those who suffer, simply because their absence would make us sad in spite of their suffering, is also a problem (such as severely deformed or disabled individuals who barely cling to life, the terminally ill, and the severely mentally ill who are beyond any help, etc.) and changing our attitudes about death would help.
I understand that those against euthanasia think of the people closest to them and feel that there is maliciousness behind eugenics or euthanasia that could target their loved ones. They don’t like the idea of faceless committees deciding who’s worthy of life or death, and that’s a reasonable concern. But at the same time, those same faceless committees have already deemed who is and isn’t worthy of help and a reasonable quality of living through policies that punish the vulnerable for things beyond their control. There should definitely be strict guidelines, but euthanasia shouldn’t be so taboo. Nor am I saying it will solve all of our problems, only a fraction of the problem.
People do not want to care for each other anymore or are simply unable to, for reasons such as having too much on their own plate, low emotional empathy, fatigue, etc. Another thing is how abysmal one half of the population is (by that, I mean men). We need a severe cultural and societal overhaul, even to the point of genetic engineering if that’s what it takes, to reprogram men into being less violent and more compassionate. While there will always be conflict in the world and world peace is an unattainable fantasy, the least we could do is try to engineer society in a better way going forward. The future should be matriarchal but with heavy checks and balances to discourage favoritism among boymoms and pickmes who will insist “my little angel can do no wrong” and cause problems for everyone.
Anyways, I really lost the plot, but all that to say: population decline is inevitable, natural, and even a good thing that we shouldn’t stress ourselves out about too much. People will die, empires will fall, but life will eventually find its way again, and we will rebuild.
No. 2473698
>>2469121Not all circuses with animals are
abusive towards animals. That's my very fringe opinion, nowadays.
No. 2473947
>>2472927Same, and a big part of it is that when I was a kid above the age of like 4 I would rather have died than thrown a tantrum in public. I would have been so embarrassed.
I even distinctly remember being 9, hanging out with my friend my age and her little sister at age 7 and us three meeting an 8 year old who tried to befriend us. She told lies so we disagreed with her, which prompted her to throw a tantrum. I remember the 7 year old sister being in absolute shock and cringe that someone older than her would act like a baby. At the time we all genuinely concluded she must be mentally disabled, in reality she was probably just cuddled and spoiled by shitty parents. Throwing a tantrum is a choice the child makes (unless they're literally mentally disabled of course) rewarding it is the dumbest thing you could do as a parent.
No. 2474008
>>2473983I thought that was the case before, but I read that a vasectomy while the man is not fully matured may lead to problems. (It's one of the reasons why vasectomies are not offered to minors, even though encouraging it would be very effective birth control!) Even if it doesn't lead to problems in every man, why chance it? I don't want any nasty surprises for his future wife.
Furthermore, I think the anon who initially said 25 (it wasn't me!) was thinking along the lines of sperm viability. Men love to offload the blame for retarded children onto women, but aged sperm is the biggest contributor to the risk of chromosomal conditions and other complications. Older women have much more successful and healthy pregnancies with younger partners, and young women having children with old scrotes makes for babies who have any number of conditions contributing to their failure to thrive. Vasectomies are also NOT 100% irreversible, which is the main reason doctors won't perform them on young men. When considering a vasectomy, doctors will tell them to consider it a permanent form of sterilization. And banked sperm combined with artificial insemination has a lower success rate than natural conception.
So, essentially, men have until age 25 to prove themselves to women and start a family before getting the snip as scheduled. The cutoff helps lower the instances of children born with debilitating or disabling conditions. Everyone wins.
No. 2474377
>>2474155Ayrt, I don't mind the haggling kek. The only thing is that there is a lot lower rate of success with artificial insemination, and it is also way more likely for multiples to occur. A lot of women are very emotionally attached to their viable fetuses once they implant, they don't tend to terminate and will typically have twins or triplets. I know it's their decision, but I wouldn't want to make a woman pained over the choice between guaranteed financial stability and what feels like her miracle babies.
And of course there are other complications, facilities have been known to fuck up their storage and handling of sperm. I would hate any woman hoping to start a family with her nigel to be devastated like that.
Fuck it, I want men in a rat race, feeling the clock for every second of those 7 years. Payback for what they psyopped so many women into.
>>2474163Yes, agreed! Even though so many men have pedophilic tendencies, the majority of men date and marry within their age group, which means they are aging alongside their partners, so 30+ y.o. women are having babies with 30+ y.o. men. And as you said, this is where the problems begin.
No. 2474420
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I hate giant, obvious fake lashes. They don't look good on anyone. I don't even dislike the look of fake lashes in general, but these massive ones are just hideous. They almost seem dissociative and anti-human in nature. I feel like the only way someone could conclude that they look good is if they've invested in "building a look", not just making themselves look beautiful or building on what they have. The same goes for giant lip fillers and obvious veneers, BBLs, etc. Some of these people don't want to look like "themselves", they want to look like the stereotypical template of a "bad bitch" with undeniably long lashes, undeniably large lips, asses, etc as if they're constantly yelling at someone who told them they didn't have any of those things. It's like drag, becoming a walking parody of feminine beauty.
No. 2474456
>>2474377There’s something called geriatric pregnancy, the older you are the more risks there are for YOU and second the baby, if you are older than 40 you have a geriatric pregnancy, but you can’t say it due to the fact that more couples are having children much later. It’s not just about genetic mutations , giving birth is a traumatic event for the body.
Another unpopular opinion but having children at 50+ is cruel to the child, don’t have it.
No. 2474535
>>2474456Nta but we the other anon said, I want to see the results when it's older women having children with younger moids
That being said, why do WOMEN get extremely defensive when you point out it's safe, healthy and normal to have children between 25-40? Just the other day I saw a girl have a mental breakdown because she kept telling moms who were in their late 20s that their fertility is declining and they'll have risks conceiving in their late 20s, then she ended up revealing she had fertility issues in her early 20s, and when an older woman pointed out to her she should fear monger about fertility to women who are more fertile than her, she absolutely fucking lost it
No. 2474580
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Speaking of pregnancy, is it an unpopular opinion to believe that Judy was in the right from the Zootopia Abortion Comic? As much progress as their society has made in regards to animal racism, I don't think the denizens would've been ready for hybrid animals. Especially not hybrids of predators and prey. Would hybrids of predators and prey be psychologically confused because of the clash of both instincts and culture shock from both sides of their family? Finding organ transplants would be damn near impossible for hybrids like that, because they'll have to find an organ that's fully or mostly compatible for their very unique genetic makeup. Not even just culture clash, but societal rejection as well. What if everyone bullying hybrids turns many of them into the Zootopia equivalent of hapacels? What if Nick and Judy kept the hybrid and that baby turns out to be the Zootopia equivalent of Brittany Venti or Andrew Tate? What if a panda breeds with a European hedgehog and we get the zootopia equivalent of Elliot Rodger? Judy made the right call to get an abortion and start picking women.
No. 2474733
>>2474580>Would hybrids of predators and prey be psychologically confused because of the clash of both instinctsA hybrid of a predator and prey would be an omnivore, which is an incredibly successful niche.
I think that Judy might the right choice for her and her career, but she likely knew her baby would be severely disabled so she made the right choice there.
No. 2474759
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>>2474733I don't know what this furry discussion is commenting on specifically but why do they always assume both traits are split equally when most existing things display one dominant trait over the other? This grolar bear just looks like a dirty polar bear. It's not an advanced tree climbing bear with subzero capabilities and zebra patterns
No. 2474802
>>2474797For real it pisses me off. I always ask why Christians think lesbians are wrong despite never being mentioned in the original text yet they continue to wear mixed fabrics, eat meat
and rape children. “Oh but times have changed you can use context (smileyface)” and who decided that… so it’s voluntary
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>>2475084This anon is illuminated and speaks the truth
No. 2475201
>>2475084there is literally no
valid reason for doing sex work at all, including disabilities. if you're able-bodied enough to have a man violently throatfuck you for an hour straight or twist your body up like a pretzel while he rapes you for cash, then you're well enough to work as a checkout girl
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>>2475254Yeah she was complaining about having to make gross custom content bc of the state of her country but I don't see why she can't just make or even find flutes locally and sell them on etsy or something. At least
try selling the flutes
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>>2475034>Fucking a couple guys a month for $1000-2000 a piece is fairly attainable.Anon, you’re glib…
No. 2475278
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>>2475034This is a very interesting way to call white women gold-star whores. Pajeet and Muhammad scrotes are totally on board with the bottom line of your take.
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>>2475275>I know this because I read interviewskek anon, most work for themselves and western countries criminalize johns but not prostitutes so they can get out of these situations, easily. Unless we're talking about kardashian/jenner operations where the mother is acting as the pimp/middle agent
No. 2475301
>>2475275They want to think they can "looksmax" and LARP as characters in glamorous movies and shows (movies made by ugly old men who rape trafficked women too) and lie to themselves that they're going to have saudi princes pay big to kiss their pinky toes. No, it'll be unlubed anal rape and being forced to eat shit and fuck dogs and swallow other women's vomit. No one is winning with this prostitution shit, it's all
abusive and exploitative.
No. 2475302
>>2475278>>2475292Nta but it's not debatable when it comes to clicks/views in sex work and you guys are making this into a topic that has to be discussed/addressed, instead of yet another gross reality about moids that you don't like. Black, asian and latina porn stars earn less
on average, everyone knows that. Big yikes disregarded
No. 2475308
>>2475302What you're missing is that this isn't a compliment to white women, unless you think being humiliated and raped on camera is worth the paltry amount of money received. Porn actresses are not making it big on average, regardless of race. They are often drugged up, exploited and mentally ill.
It's like a cow from one farm trying to flex on cows from other farms because their flesh sells for more after they've been slaughtered. Are you a trafficker? Are you planning to have white children you'll groom or sell into this shit like the Lilly Phillips woman with the alleged "manager" parents? If not, it's just sad and gross.
No. 2475325
>>2475314It's because someone ITT wants to convince white women to be open to whoredom by framing it as a "privilege", but if you point this out, the typical scrote-minded response will be "Y-You're just jealous and taking it personally". Similar things happen with some kinds of people sexualizing young girls, and when older women say it's gross, those people accuse the latter of the same.
It's all so fucking tiresome, I don't know if it's groomers or just brain-dead pickmes but it's lame.
No. 2475330
>>2475325>"Y-yWhy do you all do this? It's so obnoxious. It always precedes some kind of big ~revelation~ that is actually an obvious passive aggressive emotional
trigger response
No. 2475337
>>2475331You know what I mean anon
>>2475332Literally anyone who does this. I only ever think of a 4chan autist, especially when the person they're mocking isn't unsure of their opinion or trying to convince anyone of anything. It's just a regular discussion and anon got really offended by something she took personally and decided we're auctioning off sex workers by race on lolcor here today
No. 2475341
>>2475337You're so invested in the "Y-y" that I'm forced to assume everything I said was true and you're just zeroing in on that in a bid to evade the main point and project an emotional attachment to the whole thing. It might be personal for you, but the fact remains that it's gross and exploitation.
Stop being weird, I don't want to be a prostitute. That is all.
No. 2475357
>>2475351I mean this is sort of as easy as applying logic, like with trafficking anon (is it more likely she is sitting at home making dates and keeping 100% of the money or wandering downtown and finding a pimp). Is it more likely I'm tired of seeing the stutter-text applied to any anon
certain anons disagree with (which makes them seem reactionary and autistic) or that I'm too sensitive and can't take a good joke? And that's why I hang out on LC and write long (autistic) replies myself to explain myself, to the void?
No. 2475371
>>2475219>>2475227Both are horrible, but I'd rather do something weird to myself on camera than have my actual body be violated by an actual moid.
>>2475250>If you're pretty enough to sell feet pics, you're pretty enough for a normal jobI'm not mad at you but the the logic of this made me kek
No. 2475373
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>>2475282AYRT Okay. Still, girls/women don't magically become immune to being rented for sex just because they chose it. The body keeps the score and it'll affect them for the rest of their lives. Trauma will develop into schizophrenia or psychosis. It's already happened to a friend of mine (and yes, she is white) and she's essentially become like a kid recently despite it being well over a decade since she did anything. Honestly it's really hard to deal with because she keeps bringing up a lot of insane shit like aliens and multidimensional travel and claims she's been touched by archangels and she's never even been religious. She doesn't go out and I have to take her on walks or she doesn't leave the house. She thinks this is normal. No one else gives a fuck about her and it feels like I'm taking care of a child. Anyway this is why I don't agree with even "voluntary" prostitution because it fucks the body and mind up to degrees you don't even understand and never will because you're too far gone to comprehend it, and it's only the people watching you that really get how much it's fucked with you. I hope this makes sense.
No. 2475374
>>2475369NTA but she easily could've meant that unironically, are you autistic?
>These anons are usually camping in amerifags thread and overreacting to someone saying something negative about kamala harris or the biden termThis is just a schizo-tier self-report
No. 2475381
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>>2475369Damn I just thought anon was ESL and I was trying to help
No. 2475397
>>2475394If ~it helps~, I didn't complain for months about the defensive stutter-texting until now, since I thought this example was so obvious. But I see it all the time in amerifags (and prob this thread) and it annoys me
>>2475396Kek
No. 2475406
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>>2475397Holding in your shit is just poisoning yourself
No. 2475432
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I hate this fucking film. So much.
No. 2475570
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I unironically like ships like pic related
No. 2475607
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>>2475523>>2475481>>2475432Nta, but I honestly feel like I am losing my mind when I read how much other people like this slop. Granted, I don't watch anime, so your opinion might be swayed by some animu-coomer brain damage. It's painfully obvious that the whole plot is just rape coom and the creator got off on it. The rape scene is literally like a porn shot. I have seen genuinely good movies that tackle dark topics like rape, but this was not one of them.
No. 2475617
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>>2475607This might piss off some anons, but wow that rape depiction is so bad looking, it makes Mouthwashing look very well done with how the game handled the topic. At least the game tried to be subtle about what went down between the characters–THIS is so flashy and unnecessary, it really forces you to be suspicious of how into it the animators and writers were.
No. 2475641
>>2475623Been a long while, but iirc wasn't it specifically meant to be both rage inducing and
not actually real?
iirc, the antagonist saw the mc taking this job at all as "defiling" her idol image and probably genuinely thought that it was raping her, doesn't she start crying with rage and walking off, following up with killing the director/actors or something?Honestly though, imo people not liking anime and going away from it isn't a bad thing, if only more people got the same idea instead of pretending to like it while hating every moment and constantly nonstop bitching.
No. 2475662
>>2475607>>2475617>the rape sceneI don't know what's worse, if you're baiting this obviously or if you've never seen the movie and are being so confidently incorrect.
Spoilered pic isn't a "rape scene" in the way anons are implying. The main character was an idol who wanted to be a movie star, but the only roles she could get were "degrading" or sexually charged because nobody believed in her acting abilities. (Note the theme of her career being affected by people's perception of her due to the idol character she performed as.) Her character in this movie is a stripper who gets raped, and the scene is played out without getting very graphic, though the acting makes it distressing. The entire point of the movie is the line between your performance and yourself, and the exploitation of women in the entertainment industry.
This can't even be called a rape scene. It's uncomfortable for about three seconds before the director calls for a cut and the actor on top of Mima asks if she's alright and if he's scaring her.
Of course Mima breaks down later. The whole point is she didn't want to take the role, but she had to in order to break into the movie industry. This happens again when she is sent to a photographer who coerces her into being photographed naked.
It is crazy to me anons are trying to say mouthwashing (which couldn't even bring itself to definitively say "rape" occurred) is more nuanced than a movie where a rape didn't even happen or need to happen in order to showcase the way women are purposefully exploited by men.
Anyways, if any nona hasn't seen it, Perfect Blue is a great watch just beware of the storyline concerning the systemic exploitation of women and two scenes involving sexual assault, one simulated and one attempted.
No. 2475706
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This sucks so much ass and I never understood why it's been praised to such high hell.
No. 2475730
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>>2475706I feel like it tackles well the lesbian experience and humanizes it in a very real way, rather than painting it as a “uwu women make me feel fuzzy! I am having lesbian love everywhere”. I hate that trannies have appropriated it already kek, look at this.
https://www.animefeminist.com/perspectives-my-trans-experience-with-my-lesbian-experience-with-loneliness/ No. 2475783
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Fyi Kabi has a new book out. It's not in English yet but Google Translate says it's called "Former doodle and one-room life". Her eating disorder mini also got published.
No. 2475820
>>2475598Men do this to me when I’m on my bike. They always try to overtake me when I’m just a little bit faster than them and it’s a pain in the ass because I have to either:
>slow down so as not to crash into them because they’re too slow to actually create distance between us, or>overtake them which makes them even more mad and then they speed even more or ring their bell at me angrilyThey don’t give a fuck about oncoming traffic or pedestrians, and act like it’s everyone else’s fault for not moving out of the way quickly enough.
The worst ones are midlife crisis dads in spandex cycling shorts and an overpriced sports bike, racing me on my shitty converted grandma e-bike for some reason. I hate male cyclists in general but the older they get the more entitled they are and endanger everyone around them in the process.
No. 2475922
>>2475896Male cyclists are still safer than male road ragers who run everyone over with their dick extender pickups. It is also males that design towns and villages without sidewalks so that moms with prams and old people with rollators can’t go anywhere.
For one moid on a bike there’s 10 women who ride normally and mind where they are going, but you won’t see them in a town with no bike lanes or sidewalks. So, blame moids and not bikes or “eurofaggots” for your inability to move freely.
No. 2475930
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>>2475706The title is apparently a mistranslation, it was called something like "I hired a lesbian prostitute" who she then didn't even have sex with. I remember reading this when it was still releasing on dynasty that she woke up in her own urine. She was most likely sexually abused, and when it got officially translated it got sensationalised as a lesbian story to sell copies in the west.
I remember one part of the dynasty translation 8(ish?) years ago, where Nagata Kabi talks about her difficulties surrounding sex, she referred to sex as "o-sex" where the "o-" in Japanese is apparently used as a prefix to something respectful or distant (I can only think of 'o-himesama' from fucking World Is Mine though since I don't actually study Japanese, please understand). Anyway it sounded so awkward that her pixiv readers commented on it like "o-sex? Wtf? What do you mean?" And she had to explain she feels sex is a foreign concept to her and something intimidating and scary. So yeah I think she was sexually abused. The ABDL photoshoot she did that got posted on 2ch last year confirms it for me.
Abusive fantasies to get off? It's so textbook.
She even said in a later book that she's actually not even sure if she likes women. It's actually common for survivors to zigzag between interest in sex and then hyposexuality, which is essentially a shield to protect the self from rejection and the vulnerability of being known, it can be described as a form of asexuality. She can't function well either. She clearly feels inept, she can't attach to others well outside of her family, she self sabotages and relapses constantly, every book she releases is like watching an abuse
victim who doesn't know she's an abuse
victim.
Honestly her life is so bleak that I only hope she gets better and finds a healthy partnership.
No. 2475947
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>>2475930She was molested in grade school. They mentioned it to the entire school. She doesn't believe that's her problem since some of her friends were also molested and they turned out fine.
Lovely world we live in. Just fine.
No. 2476107
i don't exactly agree with all of the hate against little boys on here, i.e. egging on their suicide, grouping them with grown men. boys were the kindest to me in middle school while girls were catty and terrible. they stuck up for me and allowed me to be their friend and understood me because i wasn't "feminine" enough. obviously men change as they grow and im certain some of them aren't as pure now, but years later i even had a couple of them continue to reach out and check on me despite me being made fun of, alone, and dealing with many things. one of them was very popular and played football, never asked anything of me, had a girlfriend. they just appreciated my friendship and never turned on me. yet a girl made fun of me for being too shy during a presentation and the other friend group i had turned on me because i didnt know one of the girls became a they/them overnight. anyway my point is the brigading against ALL young boys is strange to me. ive also dealt with not so nice ones into their teens, and abuse/rape by adults, but by far in middle/elementary school boys tended to be the kindest to my autistic ass. i did have some female friends again/before, but they sided with the bullies out of fear. im really afraid of most women (not more than men) to this day, but i have been able to find some special, equally introverted friends decades later.
No. 2476126
>>2476107Good for you, middle school boys were watching porn during breaks and making the lists of the prettiest and fuckable girls in class. They would moan and distrupt too and made fun of the fat and autistic kid too. I don’t really get your point.
The most kind people who approached me and welcomed me each time I changed schools since we moved a lot were girls, guess who I got called a n
** by? A boy. Guess who was making fun of the hijabi girl during the peak of terrorist attacks back in the days? Boys, they would always say “allahuakbar” to her, every day, for two months.
You have literal boys terrorizing girls, even raping them and in certain cases killing them. Yet you are here batting for them kek.
No. 2476129
>>2476123When did I ever say any of those things. I never claimed that zoomers aren’t having sex, I said that the majority of zoomers choose not to literally
party and instead just get drunk at home with 1 or 2 friends
No. 2476147
>>2476126i'm so sorry you experienced all of that nonna. i just know that my experience in my school wasn't like that until the boys got older. i switched schools by then but some of them did begin to change and act out. girls were the ones tripping me in front of people, pouring things on me and telling me to commit suicide while some of the boys stuck up for me. i know what young boys are capable of, i just have maybe been lucky to encounter a majority of kindhearted ones before puberty hit. hope you are safe these days
nonnie.
No. 2476217
>>2476149it's infantilizing nonetheless
truth be told I'm fairly convinced even male paedophilia isn't mainly sexual in nature, it's rather about refusing someone the agency and expectations of adulthood
No. 2476255
>>2476230it's just a medium for a generic power fantasy, the same way sexual deviancies and even roleplays that revolves around loss of agency or power dynamics are only "sexually stimulating" as an enjoyable consequence, but not as the primary cause
when you fetishize children or someone less able than you to be consciously aware of their own immediate or future interest, and you wish to exploit that to your advantage out of spite from a lack of better options, that's where you step into
abusive behavior
now that might not be the conscious intent behind idealizing boys as some sort of platonic ideal of manhood, like I personally know some women admittedly do, but subconsciously that's definitely what's happening here
look at how "cute little girl doing cute thing" is a whole subgenre of fetishistic anime, none of it is explicitly sexual, but it's the same appeal of exploitable purity
No. 2476259
>>2476107I have 2 questions. How old are you and did you go to a private school or a public school in a wealthy area?
If you are under 25, see how you feel once you're in your 30s and they no longer treat you like a possible sex option anymore and if you went to a nice school, you have no idea the hell of going to a public school in a shitty area or even just lower middle class. That's your baseline moid for the general population.
No. 2476306
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>>2476285me if i saw that moidlet
No. 2476394
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>>2475706Adding to this but I cannot stand the obvious fish for pity/sympathy from the viewer, it comes off disingenuous and manipulative, and any time I see people feel bad for her it pisses me off cause it’s exactly what she’s looking for.
I’ve known people like this and the only way you can help them is by giving them constructive advice on how to actually improve their situation, not just “awww poor thing”. It’s an ego boost for low self-esteem narcissists otherwise.
No. 2476404
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Baby he's not an avoidant and it's not he ADHD he doesn't like you. We need to stop telling women distant and low effort men are just avoidants because if it's one thing I know about avoidant moids it's that they always have time and energy to put in emotional effort for their side hoes
No. 2476411
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>>2476404So you're saying if the side ho becomes pick-me #1, he'll change bc he likes her?
No. 2476433
>>2476416So he is an avoidant then? Or are you a different anon than
>>2476404I've never been directly told by a moid he is an avoidant, probably bc he would know that would be the reason I stop talking to him. Or I would just assume he doesn't like me and move on, like the boomers say
No. 2476436
>>2476433I do this too, but the issue is people trying to psyop young girls into thinking moids who don't actually like them and are keeping them around to cheat/ego/money/whatever are just pure avoidant souls and you just have to be persistent. It's basically teaching girls they need to stay with
abusive men
No. 2476455
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>>2476436>peopleProbably just the manipulative moids themselves, more than anyone. Most of the time the parents and friends hate males like this, the second they reveal themselves. It's more mental health-fagging and the 16 personality menace at work. I've always just thought of moids declaring themselves as "avoidants" as older fuckboys who have been to therapy with ex-gfs who gave up on them. Boomers also used to parrot picrel quote a lot, I think they were good bullshit detectors before the lead poisoning kicked in tbh
No. 2476513
>>2476271when did i say all girls and women? i said the boys were much kinder to me in some periods of my youth, but i feared women for a while, not as much as men, but still because they bullied me relentlessly.
>>2476259mid-20s, public school. i know how men treat women. my point was i had some very kind hearted friends that were male when i was little.
No. 2476518
>>2476496depends on what and who you mean. hideous? or just someone that's one by terrible social media/capitalistic femininity standards? is she well-adjusted and confident?
for me I've personally never been crept on by a man in my entire life besides online and while I know it's possible, many conventionally unattractive women are preyed on regularly even ones twice my weight, I'm sure being taller and more built than most men, with a scary face helped. but on the other hand it's made me way more self-conscious and afraid of expressing myself because it doesn't take much for me to creep people out.
No. 2476523
>>2476513Literally your whole argument was based on how all girls you've met were unpleasant to you in one way or another, but not the boys! No not the boys! Oh how much better were they to you than all those horrible girls!
Re-read your post if you genuinely don't think it gives off all girls bad.
No. 2476564
>>2476513Statistically speaking how many were these boys? Five? 50? 1000?
So you encountering 5 seemingly good boys automatically cancels the myriad of little scrotes who wreck havoc , misogyny and violence?Please sit down kek.
I have never been bitten by a snake or a pit bull, I have actually met two pitties who were super sweet and playful, yet you don’t see me saying that pitties can totally be harmless or that actually snakes can be so good.
No. 2476953
>>2476404my ex hit all these points, and at the time I tried to convince myself he was just upset for some reason and I was supposed to make up for it
reality check came in when I suddenly stopped trying to reach out and never heard from him ever again
No. 2476982
>>2476978Nayrt, I told 2 “friends” at a sleepover that i didn’t shave whilst we were talking about sex, and they acted absolutely appalled and disgusted and told everyone in the entire school, and it was mostly the girls bullying me for it.
Women and girls are very very good at keeping each other in line with the patriarchy and this is how they do it. You can’t automatically trust your female peers. Ultimately it all comes back to misogyny but the trust issues are still there.
No. 2476988
>>2476984Right? They straight up torture and kill their daughters in law, pin down young girls so their sons can rape them and inflict FGM on their daughters.
I believe patriarchy would not exist if women didn’t help enforce it.
No. 2477057
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I can't wait for skinny jeans to come back in style, not because I want to wear them or anything I just want to see the reactions of everyone who made fun of other women who wear them realize their own wide pants are now out of fashion again and it's their turn to get hate for it. I don't personally care what others wear and I think most people don't, but people like them who publicly shame others for their choices sure do.
No. 2477061
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>>2476615Scrotes are out there calling them whores, diminishing them, calling women “unrapeable”, raping women, killing them but some few retarded women expressing their discomfort and unhappiness with men needs to be policed even in this niche place because it comes out too strong kek.
No. 2477110
>>2477103Go back to the hole you crawled from then, this place isn't for your kind.
>>2477108I unironically want this to happen but it would get the website in legal trouble or something, unfortunately.
No. 2477119
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I'm not excusing rape or scrotes harrassing women when I say this but their are women who do wear disgusting outfits only for male attention. And im tired of women not having respect for themselves. I see women wearing shorts and skirts with their ass literally hanging out. The worse is when it's a obviously very young girl and I wonder why the hell her parents let their child wear this shit. It's honestly depressing. Men wear baggy fully body covering clothes and women walk around half naked. Wear leggings that go into your butt crack ect.
I wish we could live in a world where are bodies arent sexualized but grown women especially know their dressing for scrote validation. Again this isn't me condoning scrotes acting like pigs but it's just how it is and I wish women had more self respect. It's fine to dress sexy but you don't need your ass to hang out.
No. 2477147
>>2477090Anon I think you're downplaying female on female bullying a bit. I've heard stories of kids being driven to suicide by their female bullies. That being said I think male on female bullying goes largely unnoticed. When it is acknowledged it's always explained as: "Aww, he has a crush on you!" Which I think is bs. In comparison even female on male bullying is taken more seriously.
I've experienced this first hand. When I was 12 I went to a summer camp for two weeks. The children were divided into two camps: bellow 12 and 12 and above. Girls there were 13-14, guys 15-16. And those guys were fucking awful. They constantly made inappropriate sexual jokes, played inappropriate games (like daring people to kiss each other), would constantly whine when we had to do any physical activity and then complain about being bored. One guy dry-humped a pillow in his boxers and later the same guy dry humped the closet, other boys there took a video of him and spread it around. Another time they showed little kids a really sexual video of women in bikinis and men in speedos. Oh and these boys would bully me relentlessly. Mock me, make fun of me, make jokes about me in front of everyone, ostracize me, ask me inappropriate questions, get mad at me, yell at me. One guy used to poke me with his toy knife and then he threatened to rub tooth paste on me while I was asleep. I was so terrified i didn't go to sleep that night. I tried everything to get away from those psychos. I tried sticking with those 13-14 year old girls but for some reason they loved hanging out with those boys. I tried to hang out with younger kids and paint drawings with them but I wan't allowed to because I was in a higher age group and thus forced to hang out with those older boys. I tried reaching out to adults who worked there but they all just gave me a variation of: "just get over it" and told me they couldn't do anything to discipline those boys.
No. 2477363
>>2477354You do you
nonnie.
No. 2477365
>>2477225The risk/reward part of their brain gets messed up and all the losses mean nothing compared to the few wins they get. Like sure you're out $200 but you'll make it back tomorrow night, right?
Wrong. istg it's hereditary because I know a guy whose mom had a gambling problem and he's extra careful to never touch irl gambling but "lets himself" play gambling minigames in video games for hours. It's honestly dumb.
No. 2477722
>>2477675As president
nonny said: We have some bad bitches in this country, we have some real nasty freaks
No. 2477740
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It kind of a confidence boost seeing pretty women dating men I would never touch. Sometimes I feel bad about being pretty and then I’m like “well, I guess being pretty doesn’t matter much because they’re using their looks to get with guys I’d never want anyway”.
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>>2477110>Go back to the hole you crawled from then, this place isn't for your kind.This is something I've always wanted to say to these anons but didn't have the courage. I look up to you, nona
No. 2477869
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I have 2 opinions
1- I don't get the constant complaining about having to wear glasses. I don't mind it personally and it became a natural part of my routine that I feel incomplete without wearing my glasses when using my phone or computer, plus not being able to read or focus on anything reminds me to wear them anyways.
2- I find porcelain doll super pale skin tone actually adorable if it's natural or the tone of a character for example. Paired with red or orange hair, and teal or green eyes. Perfection to me. Black hair and bright blue or gray or green eyes is also a heavenly combination, with a pale skin it's even better.
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>>2477869>I find porcelain doll super pale skin tone actually adorableAww shucks
nonnie (though in reality it's less "porcelain doll" and more "tomato sauce with mozzarella cheese inexplicable red patches" most of the time kek)
No. 2477897
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>>2477874I think the pinkness is cute, too.
>>2477886>The woman in the right picrel looks like she'd fight you in a junkyardHot. That's Tarja Turunen, an operatic rock singer, formerly of Nightwish. She's graceful and beautiful to me. But I'm obsessed with Nordics and Celtics so it's just a me thing.
>thinking about MT having porcelain skin when she just died is also weirdTrue, but I couldn't think of any other examples with this specific combination. Sorry about that.
No. 2478012
>>2478003op but ntayrt here
A man taking care of himself is a great thing, being a tiktok thirst trap narcissist isn't. Men can take care of themselves without parading it on social media
No. 2478075
>>2478025Looking good to others is a small part of it, at our core we want others to think well and good of us. In fact, that was one of my strategies in dealing with social anxiety; if I could feel good about my outfit, then it would negate whatever negative impression I was worried about giving off and if I was worried about stares, they could just as easily be positive ones (or so I reasoned with myself at the time). I'd rather think people are staring because they admire my style rather than them nitpicking or noticing my flaws, if that makes sense. To my anxious mind, it was a shield for my insecurity. Still, I dress to please myself more than others.
Now if it were mainly about others, i'd be trying to follow the latest trends or brands if I really wanted to impress. Whoever likes it, likes it, and most everyone else is just neutral about it which is fine with me.
No. 2478114
>>2478077kek objectifying isn't literally the same thing as sexualizing in every case, but ok. extreme self awareness and the way you look all the time and it having direct impact on your mood isn't that great anyway because almost all of living life, action, who you are, etc, has nothing to do with this and looks aren't completely in our control unlike our actions. many women that develop body and image issues started off getting a dopamine hit from looking a certain way but then it ran away from them and they tried chasing after it, especially when stuff like aging, hair loss, illness, and other body changes happen.
way more men have better self-esteem as they are partially because they don't imagine a mirror floating before them all the time.
No. 2478580
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I think we should gatekeep physical traits. I mean natural physical features ones born with. I'm tired of how, as soon as something becomes trendy, like big lashes, a big butt, etc. people don't just admire those traits in others; they feel the need to have them or copy them. A lot of the time, the attempts to imitate those features end up looking ridiculous. Honestly, I think there's nothing more embarrassing or cringe than changing your appearance just to follow whatever's currently in style. I hate how hypocritical people can be when it comes to physical traita. The moment a random ass person says x is beautiful, suddenly everyone wants it, even though they were bashing it just a few weeks ago. So yeah, I think we should limit ourselves to admire physical features instead of force them on us. Not saying people should stop dying their hair red if they like it, go ahead, I'm talking mostly about people who do it just because things become a trend.
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>>2478580What usually happens is that the people mirroring these traits also make those traits look really bad and then people start to hate those traits on people who have them naturally. Like people who pretend they have thick eyebrows by drawing them on or using fillers that eventually look crazy. Whenever someone says they hate thick eyebrows they post a moid with a unibrow or a woman with no eyebrows naturally who has decided to look like picrel
No. 2478778
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>>2478776Personally I'm not trying to be quirky, I'm doing that because I
am poor.
No. 2478882
>>2478685I think both, but more the former, although they go hand in hand. I instinctively feel the "ick" from them, like they're some sort of alien species to me, content on drinking the kool-aid and being little more than incubators for spawn. Especially those who grow up in western societies and don't have a culture to blame (although sometimes religion plays a part, or they've been heavily homeschooled and indoctrinated). I question their intelligence because it seems they're content being boxed in without imagining anything more for themselves. I honestly welcome the global declining birthrate but it also seems like the people who shouldn't be having children are the ones whom are going to have the most because they're vain and delusional.
>>2478734Yeah, it's even turned me off from certain clothing styles and accessories that I usually like because I fear being mistaken for one of them. If one is such an "amazing mother" it will show in the parenting, but they need asspats for every little thing because they're so insecure without their identity as a mother.
>>2478781Absolutely. And instead of focusing on conserving or creating resources for future generations to thrive, there's an attitude of "meh, we'll get through it some how, microplastics and global warming be damned". It's more about they themselves and not the well being of said children.
No. 2479234
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Big top and big bottom > small top big bottom.
For some reason I've never liked the second type of outfits and I can't exactly tell why, I thought maybe it's because I by no means have the body to look good wearing that kek but honestly I just don't like how it looks most is the time.
No. 2479248
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>>2479234It looks trashy. You don't want to think it looks trashy bc that makes you feel like you're reacting with jealousy but you feel grossed out bc this style is associated with dirty and trashy angelbbs who gave you your first line of coke in hs and ended up having 5 kids and selling scratch tattoos from their basement?
No. 2479317
>>2479056ive got a cousin who recently must have been diagnosed or (more likely) self-diagnosed with BPD and she constantly shares these 'woe is me' type images about how difficult it is to be a bippy and how much extra care and reassurance they require like…. girl you are literally bein a
toxic BPD on the timeline rn but you cant see that?
No. 2479361
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As absolutely horrible bippies can be for anyone's friendship or even lives, I still feel kind of bad for them. Like reading that Bianca Devins struggled with BPD. Sure she was a bippie, but she was still just a girl and still a human being. It's normal to feel this way, right? That even if someone has one of the worst personality disorders in the book, that they shouldn't be automatically ruled as "monsters", right? Then again, I never met a person diagnosed with ASPD so maybe I'm just talking out my ass.
No. 2479397
>>2479383Faggots prey on teenagers all the time, he isn’t the only one. You have 30+ year olds “mentoring” 16 year olds or so.
The gay community has a big problem on grooming and pedophilia. But it’s not my business.
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I dislike NLOGs just as much as everyone else, but I have to admit I’m a bit biased when it comes to some of them, especially the original NLOGs: the girls who didn’t quite fit into what was supposedly expected of girls. Yeah, they can be annoying, but part of me understand then and tries not to be too harsh. Using this pic because I just read someone said Avril Lavigne was the original NLOG.
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>>2479415She is a new country singer who was styled punk by her management for some reason. Her music is new country except one song (Sk8ter boi) has weird quirky noises that I guess isn't typical for country. Part of the reason it was so funny seeing her complain about fans "copying her style" is bc it was invented by the same team of canadian stylists who dress people like hedley and the kids of degrassi, before they became drake. I know your opinion is about nlogs but you can't bring up avril lavigne without expecting this anon to sperg about how overdone and try-hard canadian famous people are
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nazi uniforms are hideous and look fruity.
lapadite mogged
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>>2479458What did you think of this moid?
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>>2479697Then wash your balls anon
>>2479713incels
>>2479725 No. 2479792
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I just don't understand how most people see body hair as masculine. Yeah, I know men are hairier on average, but doesn't mean women don't have it. I will never understand people who see body hair (especially on women) as disgusting, or ugly. Most of the time I just see it as what it is, but I have to admit that sometimes I even find it beautiful, for example I've always liked this soft hair some women have kinda on the back of the neck, kinda close to the upper back, super cute. Also, I find bleached body hair in tropical or beachy places really good looking.
No. 2479804
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>>2479792While I agree with you that body hair isn't masculine or unhygienic, I sort of get why people say it looks ugly. Your picrel is an exception because it's too light and barely noticeable. People with darker thicker longer body hair like me would get bullied for it. I don't shave though, but I've been picked on for it ever since I was a child by both family members and kids at school.
I even posted a picture of a necklace I was wearing on a /g/ thread and because of my chest hair, anons though I was a man/troon. And some called me a crazy radfem for not shaving it. I'm picrel levels of hairy. And while it's kinda hypocritical of me, I find it ugly on men, especially if they're skinny and tan or dark skinned, it makes it worse.
No. 2479805
>>2479792I know that it's considered disgusting for women to have pubic hair,
but I will never shave/wax it. I've read too many horror stories about women who waxed and got folliculitis and ingrown hairs, I don't understand how other women do it
No. 2479823
>>2479792Exactly what
>>2479804 said. I've even seen light-haired Europeans who don't wax their face and it isn't visible but a dark-haired women such as myself can't do that and not get bullied. Also bleaching very dark body hair doesn't work because it hurts the skin too much.
No. 2479841
>>2479792So that’s blonde body hair and not everyone has it. Mine is dark and thick and really shows. Like other hairy girls I got bullied so I shave my legs and arms so people don’t talk shit. I don’t want to bleach it because it takes more time and effort than shaving, and doesn’t make a difference because it’s still not what I naturally look like. It also looks fucking stupid growing back in.
>>2479810Theres other people than you on this planet and plenty of them happen to find it gross. If you feel okay getting sneered at every summer, go right ahead and grow yours out, or maybe you’re a lucky blonde with light body hair who thinks it’s not that bad because you personally never experienced it. I’ve had 20+ years of bullying behind me so I choose to be left alone.
No. 2479877
>>2479691I’m a genetic dead end cause my dysgenic ass parents thankfully only had one kid. If I produced offspring they’d want to die with the broken ass body and ND brain they’d inevitably end up with. I have too much love to curse existence upon something that would share my dna. If I ever really wanted a kid I would adopt, but I’m a hikkiNEET and struggle to afford stuff and have energy for taking care of a small dog let alone a human child.
>>2479857Not having children is the opposite of selfishness. Venus is a cow I have some of the most sympathy for but if she ever decides to breed all my sympathy for her will dry up instantly and I’ll think of her as a vile bitch. Most people who have kids do so out of selfishness and they’d be better off just putting their money towards rescuing animals, but they’re too selfish to do that and just want a mini-me they can control and brainwash, the second the kid isn’t what they want them to be they discard them and abuse them.
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I hate chavs and love bullying them. I got a call from a scamming 'human resources' from a woman with a really chavvy low class sounding voice asking me to message her on WhatsApp. I hope she feels insecure about her mushmouthed, 19th century scullery-maid speaking dialect.
No. 2479912
>>2479886AYRT, while I'll never shave my hair no matter what, I do have a background on sugar waxing because my mom used to do it. You can either buy it online or from a drugstore, or make it yourself at home using sugar, lemon and water. Some people even use Pepsi as a base. It has to be warmed up a bit by soaking the bottle in hot water before using it so it would stretch out easily, just not scalding hot. Then you stretch it in your hand back and forth until it changes from its clear texture to a gum like texture, that's when it's ready to be used on the skin. You start spreading it on your skin as thin as possible but not too thin that you can't peel it, make it a sheet basically, then peel it as quick as possible. Redo the same area as many times as needed. When the sheet/ball gets too dirty and doesn't stick or stretch anymore, discard it and create a new one. Repeat until you're done then shower and moisturize. Vidrel is a recipe for it. 1 cup of sugar, ¼ cup water and ¼ cup lemon juice. Wait until it's gold then cool it down. The texture should be exactly like the video.
No. 2479989
>>2479792Anyone who sees it as disgusting was poorly socialised. Seriously. I've never seen a moid who's social, "touches grass" as the kids say it and who actually interacts with
human beings have this opinion.
No. 2480322
>>2479804I wonder do I deem it ugly because of the psyop or because I find it genuinely ugly? How do I know that?
I’m all for being natural but I won’t lie and say that a lot of body hair is just gross to me kek, both in men and both in women, although it’s rare for women to be as hairy as men.
Maybe because it’s because I do not have much, I don’t know if it’s because of my ethnicity but I am basically smooth all over (apart from a light peach fuzz) except my armpits and vulva, but they never reach “jungle” level of growth either.
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>>2480321yes, thats what I meant lol. My point was that all of those “ look! a teacher assaulted a boy who was a minor!” headlines and the kid was like 15 are bullshit. We all know he wanted it because thats how scrotes are programmed post puberty. Any male “sexual abuse survivor” over the age of 13 I feel no sympathy for and they are lying and guilt tripping if they try to pull the
victim card. If it was a 30 year old man and a 13 year old girl then thats obviously different.
No. 2480333
>>2480294I meant in a bikini, it’s why I said in the summer. The fact that they’re losers doesn’t really matter if it happens frequently, I’m aware that a normal person won’t care but enough people do that it starts to be irritating and make me self conscious. If you don’t trim or shave you’re called an ugly sasquatch, and if you do you get shat on by online keyboard warriors.
Somehow body hair evangelists never go after the people calling names and go for those of us having to deal with being called names instead, isn't that so strange. Almost as if they don’t really care and just want to humblebrag.
>Oh I would never shave ever, and nobody ever makes comments about it!I think I’ll just live my life as I have been so far and not listen to internet randoms calling everyone a pickme for not adhering to their personal standard of feminism. Good luck convincing women to stop shaving by browbeating them into it, see how well that works.
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>>2480320Even if it's a situation where some 14-year-old scrote is molested by his teacher or something, they always post about these stories like they're
happy that it happened. When adult scrotes look at stores like that, 60% of the comments are basically, "god, I wish that were me". A fucking ten-year-old scrotelet can get molested by a babysitter, and moids will literally get jealous about it. Then they cry on YouTube about how nobody takes male rape seriously. Like nigga please, you faggots don't even take
yourselves seriously. They wanna cry about double standards when people react differently to women and men getting raped, but they never wanna talk about
which gender made it that way.
No. 2480349
>>2480334I hope your using the term “molested” loosely because there is no way a scrote was forced against was against his will by a woman kek. He had to agree to some part of it, and when he doesnt get his way, THEN, after the fact, he reports her to the police. A 14 year old scrote is 100% capable of that. If it was a 3 year old and a 30 year old woman, THATS abuse. but you never hear about that because it rarely ever happens compared to the heinous things scrotes do to girls. No man is truly a
victim. Thats why other scrotes cheer it on because they knew they would want to be “abwused” by an older woman if they were 14 also. Lying hedonistic porn addicted scrotes I swear to god. Thats my rant.
No. 2480362
>>2480351Yes, Although I cant get into the psychology of being attracted to a teenage scrote, they are all liars, annoying and hairy. But they are in no way or form a
victim kek. they were all happy when it happened which is why they dont report it when the adult female
first reaches out to them.
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>>2480372$1400 is too cheap it needs to go higher
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>therapist
>the rapist(not an opinion)
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>>2480453nta but why does a man want to understand psychology so deeply? to manipulate
No. 2480459
>>2480351I don’t know why they are trying to justify it kek. A woman can be a pedophile and no matter how much you think the teenager wanted it or played into it, whatever that means, she still remains a pedophile.
What I’d say is that male pedophiles are more and they are much worse compared to the female ones and I would also say that male children being raped by adult females does not negate the role male children have regarding violence and harassment of female children or even other adult females.
Sometimes I just have to remember that there are trolls here who just write stuff in order to write and come off as edgy.
No. 2480460
>>2480459And also saying that “they aren’t
victims because they enjoyed it” is a big slap to the little girls who were raped by adults or even their peers and the women who were raped and had to come to terms with it later on.
Some of you should actually sit a bit and think about what you are saying and what it entails kek.
No. 2480474
>>2480470Do you realize that your whole “reee the scrote liked it, doesn’t matter” bleeds negatively in promoting rape culture kek? Because then it justifies , for example, a 15 year old who falls in love with her teacher and then “consents” to have sex with him.
Again some of you don’t realize the zone you are stepping into.
No. 2480480
>>2480474Or is pedophilia and ephebophilia only okay when it’s done to males kek?
I despise the male population as much as the next nonna, but I’d never lower myself to their standards and justify this stuff just to make a gotcha.
No. 2480523
>>248041414 year old scrotes nowadays are looking at rape porn on motherless. The average 14 year old scrote has a porn addiction. Not a fiber of empathy for them when they play the sexual
victim card. and I also think the women who willingly had sex with them are retarded but not sexual “abusers.”
No. 2480528
>>2480460Did you not read the part where i said ONLY males (not females) cannot be “
victims of sexual assault” over the age of 13-17? Their brains are literally wired to think about porn and sex all day, people pretend like they were raped and abused when they actually agreed to it because moidbrain. The average teenage scrote is looking at disgusting porn and hentai
right now. And probably jumped at the idea of free sex. 13+ year old girls dont think like this. Only moids. Not saying the adult woman was 100% morally correct either, just saying there is no muh “innocent
victims”, only retards.
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Not sure if this is a particularly unpopular opinion, but anyone that is an adult or even a teen that continues to use the internet without an Adblock is a literal subhuman in my eyes, it disgusts me on a visceral level. How do you live like this??
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>>2479234Big top, small bottom ftw. I will never stop dressing like this
because I'm too poor to buy new clothes No. 2481177
If there is one thing I agree with moids, is that a lot of women are very exhausting to be around when they're angry. I understand that everyone has their own frustrations, but the amount of women I've seen with crazy short temper issues going and shouting and nagging for HOURS when someone doesn't do what they want is so annoying. Some of them have really bad controlling issues, and go in the overbearing mom mode telling someone what to do and then getting mad when that person refuses to. Like first of all, you're the only one who put all these huge expectations on yourself and everyone else around you, and second, it's not your responsibility what someone else does. If you think your bf is lazy, then just break up with him instead of giving him a 2 hour rant. Stop controlling every aspect of your daughter's life and then complain that she is rebellious. Don't do everyone's else shit and then cry that you're the only one who is hardworking, literally no one asked you to pick their trash. I had a friend who volunteered at a sports event, and she complained for hours that she was the only one who was cleaning and the other girls were fucking around, even though literally no one else told her to do that lol.
No. 2481181
>>2481177>I had a friend who volunteered at a sports event, and she complained for hours that she was the only one who was cleaning and the other girls were fucking around, even though literally no one else told her to do that It kinda sounds like you just don't like it when people call out shitty behaviour. Coworkers not doing the job that they
volunteered to do is a
valid thing to complain about.
No. 2481198
>>2481181Again, literally no one told her to do that, she started doing it by herself and then the other girls noticed she's carrying everything so they relaxed. It's not a job, she is not getting paid for cleaning someone's shit.
>>2481193I just want things to be chill, I'm ok with getting advice, but do you not understand how incredibly annoying is to listen to a 2 hour rant of shouting and screeching? My mom does this shit all the time.
No. 2481205
>>2481177"Rebellious phases" are usually the result of abuse or neglect when it comes to girls. It's completely normal for teenagers to experiment with all kinds of styles or trends but a dramatic personality shift usually happens after some kind of major trauma. The most "rebellious" girls I grew up with had very little adult supervision and/or an
abusive parent, which was almost always the dad
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The lc moovie nights thread seems controlled by this guy today or similar
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>>2481408samefag and it just keeps going kek
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I'm sick of NLOGs like this. It isn't just FtMs, it's a certain type of woman who thinks that having any sort of personality, whether that be in humor, "strangeness", taste or mentality necessarily cuts her off from every other woman on earth. It's not even just about "being different", it's about the ravenous need to feel special and be picked by men. Their view on the vast majority of women aligns perfectly with boomer men in that they both implicitly view most women as uninteresting, unintelligent, unfunny, mindless holes. It ties into media like that movie Ella Enchanted and the Apothecary Diaries, where the main female characters are "sooo different from those other vapid, brain-dead girls!!" and the princes notice them because of their innate specialness. They're honestly the female equivalent to the faggots making those sigma male patrick bateman/ryan gosling edits, the only difference being that at least those men are (rightfully) relentlessly bullied and mocked. Society needs to do more to shame and prevent NLOGism.
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>>2481529Can I just put out the ironic pattern of all my personal experiences with women like this being either the most boring fucking women ever known to mankind, or just insufferable bitches who more than likely have undiagnosed BPD and don't realize that they have no friends because their personality is the psychological equivalent of a rat king with all animals dead instead of it being just because they're "uwu diffwent".
No. 2481553
>>2481551I think you misunderstood what she was saying
nonnie…
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>>2481551Holy shit, faggot learn to read. I was specifically talking about women who are NLOGs, who IME, either have no personality to back up how different they are, or are "different" in the sense that they're socially isolated–yet don't realize that they're socially isolated because they gave horrible personalities and not because their lives are such vast glorious enigmas that nobody can comprehend. Now shut the fuck up and let me keep scrolling this thread. I'm eating
Popeye's.
No. 2481567
>>2481529this the type to be like "ive been bullied and ostracized by
all other women
ever because im not a vapid stupid slut like they are!"
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>>2481933Christianity + "it's impolite to discuss religion" is the perfect societal combination
No. 2482037
>>2482032I hate how you can't even shit on fat people these days on this site because the
triggered fatties will call you an anachan. Two sides of the same coin: if you get accused of being anachan, they're a fatty, and if you get accused of being a fatty, they're anachan
No. 2482054
>>2482050One time I was in a busy public place and a little kid about 7 walked past this enormous fat woman, BARELY touched her but she literally grabbed him by the shirt, DRAGGED HIM over to her and started screaming at him for pushing past her. This is what they’re like. You take up 3x the space of a normal person, have some fucking shame.
Also the amount of fat people I know who are constantly talking shit about other peoples appearances, about their clothes, calling them ugly, and when you rightfully remind them that they’re fat, they say “but I can lose weight!” Yeah but will you? Or will you do what most fat people do and stay fat until you die young, leaving a bloated and foetid corpse for the ambulance crew to struggle with?
I’ve had maybe a handful of women be unreasonably horrid to me throughout my life and they were ALL fat. To get fat, you need to have some deep seated issues with impulse control and self esteem, and those traits often lead people to be aggressive bullies as well as the fucking eyesores that they are, so being fat and being an asshole go hand in hand.
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>>2482067Honestly, I always saw her as more waisan. Specifically of East Asian and European, but WHICH East Asian and WHICH European, I don't know though.
No. 2482203
>>2482185Nta but some women love having interpersonal struggles in a relationship and they also like to appear like a martyr, dating a scrote with a kid is a great work around for pregnancy for them. It's like they
need some boogeyman in their relationship so they can feel the thrill of overcoming that adversity to date or whatever. Known a few women like this and it's crazy. They also tend to not really care about the children either, the kids are moreso just accessories to their weird overcoming relationship adversity fantasy, and if the kids actually like them then it adds to that fantasy 100%, and if the kids aren't close with them then it's of course the fault of the evil baby mama kek.
No. 2482243
>>2482208Me neither also i think all of the people who put the watermelon emoji or the palestinian flag in their twitter bio dont care either but are just using it as a shibboleth with their liberal friends to let everyone know that they are woke too.
I also hate the “All it takes is one click” Palestinian donation links that get shared around like a copypasta, Like i simply dont care. I dont know why other people are pretending to care either. Its sad that babies are dying and all but babies are also being killed and raped all over the world but nobody talks about that because it isnt hastag #socialjustice or #humanrights trending on twitter. Everyones a bunch of lip service liars. People only pretend to care about palestine to fit in and so they can think that they are “morally just” like everyone else but deep inside they are truly just as evil
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>>24822455 years ago it was russia and ukraine, remember? People were putting the ukrainian flag in their bio and profile pictures, but even now when the war is still going, palestine gives you 2x social justice points in the meta so nobody cares about ukraine anymore. Maybe the next fad to pretend to care about will be “Noo bangladesh rights” or “Noo yemen rights”
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>>2482322
Ayrt, I find the level of discourse here to be pretty much on par with male-dominated image boards like 4chan, expect those tend to be more aggressive with the "you're wrong because you're a faggot" style rhetoric.
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>>2482451I drink diet soda bc my friend dissolved a tooth she lost to liquid in 3 days by submerging it in regular coke, in a science experiment in gr. 3 (and now I prefer the taste). I've never seen or tried the experiment with diet coke but obviously sugar is harmful to your teeth, so it's probably less bad than the regular kind
No. 2482474
>>2482455
I mostly agree. For example, regulating your calorie intake based on daily activity is smart, and healthy. You don't need to eat a carb filled breakfast and lunch if you're spending the day off watching TV, but you might want to if you're going hiking later, or working a lot, or whatever. I don't really think the things you mentioned are anachan techniques, but it seems like the only people who know about them and practice them are anachan so it seems that way. People take that shit to extremes.
I also think that it's toxic burger culture to need to eat something every single time your tummy rumbles. You don't, really. Plenty of people can, and should, eat normal meals at mealtimes without needing the sensation of being completely full, or overfull, 24/7.
No. 2482577
>>2482572nta, but it's not that bad for you. The average dosage in diet sodas is far away from being enough to be
toxic. A lot of the fear mongering are from people who don't know how to read scientific studies properly or misread them on purpose. It's still better than regular soda.
No. 2482578
>>2482570>waiting as late in the day as possible to eat my first mealThis works also super well for me! It’s probably close to intermittent fasting.
>>2482563>diet coke really does curb food noise and hungerIt’s the opposite for me. It helps to drink a big cup of peppermint tea for me for some reason. Diet drinks give me crazy cravings!
No. 2482722
>>2482700I was gonna make a thing about the posh shitting on the rural but after
>>2482719 maybe not. Jesus that is Welsh level depravity.
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You have to be a highly intelligent and sexy person if your favorite ice cream flavor is Moosetracks.
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>>2482786Nona has harmful personal bias about this ice cream and it's not okay
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>>2482783No, all kinds of chocolate ice cream are disgusting.
No. 2482805
>>2482791I genuinely don’t know what it is kek? I’m an eurofag.
Is it like vanilla with bits of chocolate and maple syrup?
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>>2482793Tiger tail is the best ice cream flavour. And there is no need for any other discussion on the topic
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>>2482813I respect that choice anon. It's understated yet classic
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>>2482813>>2482818>rum and raisinswtf. an abomination.
>>2482820probably Europeans that don’t know the true glory of this American classic. btfo again, eurofags!
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>>2482827Jfc anon, this is like japan bragging about their pocky. At least pull out the big guns for this
No. 2482839
>>2482829It takes wisdom and refinement to understand the complex flavors or rum and raisins. Simpletons like
>>2482827 could never.
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>>2482846At least rum and raisins is original. It's enough already with the pocky
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Most "classics" have been memed into being considered classics by boomers, and to a lesser extent millennials, based on what was cheap affordable slop to play on public TV. Literally mediocre movies were selected for this because their price was cheapish early on. So it could be played ten times a year.
The Wizard of Oz, It's a wonderful life, Grease, Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, all fall into this category. None of these movies are great, I mean they're okay, but not great.
You pretty much can't get an accurate reading for what movies are top tier by the pop culture from 1940-1990, because there's a fair amount of boomer memes. I feel that because nobody watches TV anymore, mediocre movies will stop being shilled.
No. 2483331
>>2483324I think only It's a Wonderful Life falls into the cheap TV category. The others
>The Wizard of OzFirst big technicolor movie.
>Willy Wonka and the Chocolate FactoryRoald Dahl books resurgence.
>GreaseI have no idea what happened here. It made $400m vs a $6m budget. I'm guessing it actually very popular at the time. Still sucks.
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>>2483324films themselves as a whole were considered to be vulgar and low down by entire generations, and not worth the time spent watching over reading a book, for example. I asked my boyfriend's dad if his parent's took him to see Chitty Chitty Bang Bang when it came out, because to me by today's standards it's like a masterpiece, and he just said 'absolutely not, they would have just seen it as commercial trash'
No. 2483483
>>2483324To some extent I feel like this is universally true for all eras and all types of art, not just film. Some things become immensely popular, sometimes they deserve it othertimes not. Far more is made than what becomes popular so it just stands to reason there'd be at least as many worthwhile works in the lesser-known category by numbers alone. Of course one may believe that the best things get the most deserved recognition and the other things that didn't didn't deserve to, to which the remedy is to study the works that became popular in the context of what came before and what was released around the same time to better understand why popular. Getting as complete a picture as possible of cultural context both within the medium and in other art forms (as well as of the development of technology and other historical and cultural events) is key to understanding an era, but is also impossible to get truly complete because of the sheer amount of information this would entail, not to mention all not preserved and now lost to time. Hence the iconified cultural touchstone format which prevailed over the era you mentioned and works in the sense of getting everyone up to speed on the basics but also serves as a double-edged sword as inevitable repeated exposure due to the perennial presence of these works ends up devaluing them to those already familiar.
As you iteratively build up your more complete understanding and revisit these most popular works to theorize why they became popular, you will find some pioneering works got the recognition they deserved at the time, but just as often, a lesser-known work made waves in more underground circles, and something later with both the right budget for reach and the right mass appeal brings a more palatable application of these innovations that eclipse the original innovators. There's that famous Eno quote that I'm gonna mangle here about the most effective art being 90-something percent tradition and just a few percent innovation. You could look at this in absolute terms and apply it to pop things but it's actually much deeper than that when you consider the question of just what exactly is tradition depends on what you have consumed up to that point, which means that you can apply this to your own journey through art forms, genres, and history: the things that you gravitate towards at a given time for artistic reasons will have appealed to your tastes and prior exposure and knowledge but have challenged you just enough for you to have considered it fresh. To which you may then think there is a definite process whereby you elevate your tastes and eventually reach a higher level of understanding and leave the pop stuff behind, to which I have two (perhaps obvious) counters. The first is that the most challenging most avant-garde can itself be a repetitive path and is best appreciated in the context of a greater cultural canon. The second is that if you decide to entirely exclude majorly popular works you decrease your understanding of that era and all eras after. Remember that while it is impossible to get a complete understanding of an era (and that's part of the fun, you'll always have more to explore), by engaging in this form of study with the tools available today with the internet and the greater ease in being able to track down copies of older works you're interested in, you're able to get a far deeper understanding of the history as a whole than the average person that lived through these earlier eras, especially the further back you go (even though the further back you go the more that is lost). Boggling, isn't it?
>>2483331>It's A Wonderful Life is cheap TV categoryThe intro is kinda corny as well as
making the religious stuff definitively real in-story instead of leaving it more ambigious as something possibly imagined while drunk and contemplating suicide, more likethe character in A Matter Of Life And Death (Stairway To Heaven (!) in the US) whose interactions with the supernatural have no in-story real-world verification, but on the other hand I think It's A Wonderful Life is the better candidate for mass appeal, and the religious stuff also serves as important context into the era in which it was made. The events of the film were extremely resonant for anyone who lived through when the Great Depression hit and served as an in to teach younger generations who hadn't, particularly children, which was and is a big part of its appeal. Also many decisions in art direction were masterful, particularly the music selections.
>The Wizard Of Oz was the first big Technicolor movieNot true, but I'm not surprised that you think that. When I was young I was even told that it changing from black and white to color when arriving in Oz was how audiences were introduced to color films, but this is total BS. Experiments with color films actually began before sound films. In the late 1920s in the early sound era, there were many full color features, mostly musicals. One of the last made in this period was the somewhat controversial King Of Jazz, released in 1930 after the Great Depression hit. The early days of the depression with people spending less combined with the public's exhaustion with musicals from the immense wave of popularity from the beginning of sound films a few years earlier led to its financial failure, and it was seen as too expensive to attempt color films for a few years after this. The first major color feature after this was Becky Sharp in 1935 (based on the novel Vanity Fair) and was followed by a handful of others before The Wizard Of Oz in 1939, most notably The Trail Of The Lonesome Pine, A Star Is Born, Gone With The Wind, Robin Hood, and Drums Along The Mohawk. This shouldn't diminish its artistic quality and cultural importance though, we didn't need to invent reasons to keep it relevant.
>GreaseI think the key here was tapping into the wave of 50s nostalgia that arguably started with Sha Na Na in the late 60s and really took off in the 70s with things like American Graffiti, Happy Days, etc. There's enough updated to appeal to the emerging second wave of disco generation to be fresh at the time while still appropriately evoking the 50s / early 60s to have hit the right nostalgia points for a lot of people. If you like these things, it still holds up, but I also totally understand not. I used to hate it kek
No. 2483527
>>2483324This applies to music too, the Beatles have been memed beyond all reason.
I do think willy Wonka is a legit good movie. Interesting that it was originally conceived as just an ad for candy though.
No. 2483529
>>2483524And what might that be? COVID vaccine did fuck all for the spread considering countries where damn near everyone was vaccinated had outbreak after outbreak.
>But it prevented death and made it not as bad!Let's be real now this was just a last ditch effort from the vaccine-Nazis when it didn't work and they ran around foaming at the mouth about how they unvaccinated are all COVID super spreaders. What did it make the survival rate from 99.5% to 99.6%? Definitely not large enough for you to reacting this fucking psychotic
No. 2483533
>>2483529>vaccine nazistake your meds retard, every major world leader made sure they were first in line for the vaccine, even the grifter retards telling you false information made sure they were first in line, we had the USA suppressing info in other countries to sell their vaccines first
>vaccine did fuck allRIP to the education system
No. 2483537
>>2483533And what did that accomplish exactly anon? Cause it sure as hell didn't stop the spread, lower the death toll or anything
>Did fuck allThey literally admitted it didn't stop the spread or even lower your chances of getting it, not even a little. When people started noticing more and more that vaccinated were constantly getting sick they changed it to "oh well it prevents death".. for a virus that almost all people recover from
No. 2483541
>>2483435>smallpox vaccines should be mandatoryIm pro most vaccines but holy shit why do so many people think we still need smallpox vaccines? You know you’ve never had one, right? Your parents likely didn’t have one either. Smallpox has been eradicated. Boomers were the last generation to need the vaccines. Btw, you can tell if someone has had a smallpox vaccine because they carry a small scar with them for life.
>>2483533>RIP education systemLet me guess, you think smallpox vaccines should be mandatory? Kek
No. 2483545
>>2483533https://t.co/vG1CJnCbRW?amp=1These are the Pfizer documents they attempted to keep sealed until 2097, in which they were ordered by the court.
Multiple times throughout the documents, Pfizer admits to contraction rate, death rate and effects of COVID not changing or for some groups it made them more likely to get COVID. On top of that they admitted to everything conspiracy theorists said (myocarditis increase, neurological problems, etc). Continuing to try to deny what was said straight from the horses mouth while claiming everyone else is crazy id insanely delusional
No. 2483564
>>2483557Honey, you didn't. That's why I ask you why you're sharing a document you don't understand.
>admitted to everything conspiracy theorists saidVaccines in general cause these issues, not just COVID-19.
>deny what was said straight from the horses mouthYou don't even understand what the horse is saying you stupid bitch
(infighting) No. 2483575
>>2483529>I'm not talking about the covid vaccine >reeeee COVID vaccine!! COVID vaccine!!! reeeee!!!Glad an actual covid vaccine
nonnie responded to you and you're getting the conversation you desperately wanted, but consider taking your meds
No. 2483579
>>2483570Oh I'm sorry, the retards who decided to follow the advice of crunchy grifters and snake oil salesman need to be coddled? You want to cry about being an emotional punching bag? Nothing to say about anyone that maybe was affected by your retarded, ill-informed opinions? Is there no responsibility on the public's part for this?
>It didn't do shit for COVIDyou say that because you're drinking retard juice. "It didn't do shit" isn't an accurate report of experimental vaccines.
And just to reassure you, I'm not automatically a shill for pharmaceutical companies because I am calling out your mouth-breathing opinions on an anonymous forum. Sorry I'm not rallying the troops to dismantle Pfizer, there's a big smoke screen of retards like you who purposefully poison the well of discourse about medicine and pharmeceuticals because you eat the slop and drink the kool aid.
No. 2483581
>>2483573Look, I can highlight sections of this report like a retard, too:
>n 685 cases, there were co-reported AEs. The most frequently co- associated AEs (˃ 40occurrences) were: Headache (187), Pyrexia (161), Fatigue (135), Chills (127), Pain (107),
Vaccination site pain (100), Nausea (89), Myalgia (88), Pain in extremity (85) Arthralgia
(68), Off label use (57), Dizziness (52), Lymphadenopathy (47), Asthenia (46) and Malaise
(41)
Wow, sound the fucking alarms, headaches, chills, and pains. I'm sure no other vaccine, medication or medical intervention has had similar results during clinical trials and testing, and I'm sure they never addressed those adverse effects either!
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>>2483581Safe and effective
No. 2483593
>>2483578Are you hallucinating? You were the first person to bring it up, and the post you were responding to
>>2483435 clearly stated they were talking about the other vaccines and that the risk vs. reward of covid vaccine wasn't as clear as those. I'm just gonna stop checking this thread because you're clearly unwell. Maybe covid fried your brain, should have taken that vaccine.
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>>2483597OG anon:
>>2483046>I don't think you should have a right to refuse vaccines unless you have some disease that means a vaccine would kill you. >They should just force antivaxxers to get vaccinated at gunpoint.You, hallucinating a 0 covid forevermasker after zero mentions of covid:
>>2483165>>2483140>>2483188>>2483192>which they said, it was about the COVID vaccineYou are hallucinating. You were the literal only person even thinking of covid here until another
nonnie showed up. Saying "no, you are hallucinating, it's not about this" is not saying it is about it. Fucking retard
No. 2483605
>>2483199The reason for the influx of crunchies is simply the reaction during the COVID vaccine. You had people swearing up and down if you didn't get the jab you were going to drop dead in a week, then when you questioned the effects people were literally calling for your death, unemployment, send the unvaccinated into camps, etc. All for a virus with one of the highest survival rates
Ofc when you constantly hear "if you don't get this suspicious vaccine you'll die tomorrow and murder loads of grandmas and children!" then when people end up not getting COVID at all or it's nothing more than a cold for kids and grandma, then they get curious on why people were so erratic about COVID and start questioning other vaccines or typical practices in medicine
I don't exactly blame people who were for the vaccine per se, I completely understand wanting to be pro science, stop the spread, and just wanting to do what's best. The issue is the complete blind overreaction that pushed people into the arms of crunchy folks
No. 2483623
>>2477344She was right about him being an
abusive disgusting piece of trash though. Mentally fucked from it all, but nonetheless right about the type of person he was. He's disgusting
No. 2483631
>>2483622Hospitals were actually
less than usual because they would send anyone with any sign of a cold home and people were told not to come unless it's life threatening
No. 2483678
>>2483674Those who excuse contracting herpes by saying it's not inherently sexual or x portion of the percentage of the population has mouth herpes don't realize that unlike many other STD's, herpes is permanent and has a slew of other effects on your health and is something you have to disclose to future partners.
Most people who have herp also have to take medication or else face very painful sores during flare ups. Herpes isn't a joke and it shouldn't be "common" and women should be taught to look for the signs of it.
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>>2483681the dismissal of std's as something commonplace for people who have too much sex is concerning
they shouldn't even be having enough sex to nonchalantly brush off an std in the first place. never mind all the damage it can do if you want children in the future, its potential to cause cancer and other diseases, and shorten your lifespan
No. 2483703
>>2483695They now have drugs that can reduce or hide HIV more easily and several STDs are just temporary, but the effect of it on the overall body can more just hinder it than kill it. It's more like if you contract enough it kills you slowly.
There is a rumor that a lot of celebrities who die of "cancer" may have had their cancer onset by HIV, especially if they tended to be promiscuous. AIDS/HIV is damaging enough that regardless of whether the infected takes drugs or not, it can lead to eventual death by other infections. There was a leaked aetna health insurance list of HIV med recipients and several celebrities were on it.
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>>2483710I literally worked in hospitals during COVID and medical worker forums have reported the same exact things
>ventilator supply fightsVentilators weren't used that much but hospitals kept stock in case of worse case scenario
>PPE shortagesThis wasn't due to the virus itself but more so the protocol. You have to change your gown, mask, and everything when you went into a new room and ofc this went out fast
>staff crunchesHospitals have been shorting staff since well before covid because they're cheap asses. Not because COVID was dangerous and was going to kill us all
No. 2484051
>>2484031I want to have sex at least once in my life tbh. I am shallow so i am not looking into life long relationships so i am fine, i guess.
>>2484035I am an husbandofag but sadly i still crave the flesh.
No. 2484054
>>2484052Ntayrt but that is a really disgusting thing to say about
victims of abuse and other sufferings who feel comfortable enough to use the vent thread here. You just sound weird now
No. 2484059
>>2484052But if we ever had any problems in our life why would I go to lolcow? Usually when you’re having a spat with your husband or bf you guys work it out together
>>2484056NTAYRT but
>or will you be shitting up the vent thread with all the problems he causes in your lifeIs kind of a rude thing to say
No. 2484068
>>2484061It's annoying and no one wants to hear it. How can some anons acknowledge we're
femcels but then also think we want to hear your stupid nigel vents? r/breakingmom isn't difficult to find (you too
>>2484059 )
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>>2484068>It's annoying and no one wants to hear it.You know what’s annoying and what nobody wants to hear? You complaining about anons vents. Learn2scroll past posts you don’t like, also being in a relationship doesn’t mean you’re a mother? When did any anon venting about their relationship troubles call other users
femcels?
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>>2484068>It's annoying and no one wants to hear itYou could say that about 90% of the things that get posted in the vent thread, come on. It's not healthy to get so worked up about another
nonny's shite relationship.
>How can some anons acknowledge we're femcels but then also think we want to hear your stupid nigel vents?There's many of us using the site. I think. Unless all posts are done by one
nonny in a fugue state. Never discount that possibility.
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>>2484078I don't remember you asking me that question. I replied to this post
>>2484061>But does that mean that them venting is “shitting up the thread”? Is talking about your relationship banned from the vent thread now?With my honest opinion that no one cares about nigel vents. So I guess to explain further, it "shits up the thread" bc there are posts that are not interesting or annoying to a lot of the userbase. And then I went on to remark that anons will acknowledge we're
femcels but then also get mad that we don't want to hear about their nigels (and how that doesn't make sense). Lmk if you need anything else explained/summarized, always happy to help
>>2484085It sounds like you're taking it really personally that no one cares about your nigel vents (repost/typo)
No. 2484124
>>2484041So is loving a fictional character the same as being in love with a human being or not? Make up your mind, lmao. Husbandos are superior because I can throw them away when I'm bored of them with 0 consequences.
>lurk moreIt's not a serious lolcow lore thing for anyone to give a shit about it. You're just a loser larping as a normie. Plus like 80% of anons don't shut the fuck up about their boyfriends or husbands or how they want one so bad. So it's still not an unpopular opinion even here. You'll be in a financial
abusive situation with no real property in the name of ~love~ or supporting a scrote financially while he sits around and does nothing while I'll have a real life with actual goals and achievements. We're not the same.
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>>2484124>You'll be in a financial abusive situation with no real property in the name of ~love~ or supporting a scrote financially while he sits around and does nothing while I'll have a real life with actual goals and achievements. We're not the same.…What does literally any of this have to do with
you specifically? All I said was thanks for proving my point you’re unhinged
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>>2484127>fantasizing about>the faculty or activity of imagining things, especially things that are impossible or improbable.I think anon just stated a predictable outcome and why she has chosen a husbando instead of coming to a
femcel imageboard to announce how great her relationship/marriage is and the importance of supporting women through abuse (when there are countless appropriate avenues to find that support that aren't on a
femcel imageboard)
No. 2484147
>>2484145I am OP lol. I never once said, nor do I think, that lolcow is a “
femcel imageboard” kek. I said that leading a single life is a popular way that many anons here choose to live. That is a significantly different sentence from “Lolcow is a
femcel imageboard”
No. 2484155
>>2484147It's called hyperbole anon. It's annoying that you're backtracking over the kind of inflated language we use here all the time. You believe anons disagree with this post
>>2483983 which makes them forever-singles? Who cares what word I used, just own it jfc
No. 2484158
>>2484155Well actually it seems as though
you’re the one backtracking, considering the fact that your initial response to my post was claiming that I stated LC is a
femcel website, as opposed to just saying you were using a hyperbolic statement. And again, when did I ever state that I think anons having different opinions from me means that they’ll be “forever single”? I don’t feel that way.
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Samefag from this
>>2483983 I’d just like to clarify, my post says
>I think if you reject experiencing love there’s something wrong with you…being in a happy relationship improves the quality of your life tenfoldThat is not saying “if you aren’t in a relationship with a rude scrote there’s something wrong with you”, that is not saying “you’re gonna be forever alone lol xD”, that is also not saying that you should put up with bullshit and remain in a relationship just for the sake of not being alone. What I said is if you
reject romantic love there’s probably something wrong with you.
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>>2484127Anons were literally discussing that they get into relationships because they want a house. Majority of relationships are about convenience and financial stability by combining incomes. Do you think women would still feel the need to get into a relationship if they could afford living alone? I also think giving up your life and entrusting it to someone who is essentially an absolute stranger is retarded. They'll always use the fact they spend money on you and house you to force you to comply and stay with them. That's why relationships last, not because of love or whatever.
>>2484128You were saying being in a relationship is great and makes one happy, then you said having a husbando proves your point, wasn't
>>2484048 your post, too? Also read my reply to the other anon above regarding the financial abuse thing. You're not looking for love or whatever. If relationships were so great, you wouldn't need to convince anyone to get into them in the first place.
>>2484131Read op's posts and replies to me then read
>>2484048, she's the one who is trying to both equate and negate any equation between the two, not me. I personally know it's not the same and I prefer the way husbandofagging works for the control aspect. Real people could never compare to me.
>>2484147Genuinely why do you have a problem with that? Why does it bother you if you're oh so happy in your relationship? You want to poke fun at people who are not getting into relationships then get all pissy when met with the same attitude. There's nothing sane or normal about blindly trusting a stranger with your life, and there will never be. You're the broken attention seeker who is never satisfied and can never get on her feet on her own, not me or any of the single nonnas. Not everyone wants kids/a family either, so not everyone sees the nonexistent value of relationships like your delusional ass does.
>>2484170It's called being an actual person. Try it out some time. I know you're too low IQ for that but maybe one day you'll get there.
No. 2484190
>>2484183Anon, I didn’t say nor do I “have a problem with” anons being single. I think you’re misinterpreting my post. Being single ≠ being someone who rejects romantic love. You can be single and be someone who wants to receive romantic love, and you can also be in a relationship and be the type of mate who rejects romantic love or doesn’t appreciate when your counterpart shows it to you or doesn’t know how to respond.
>You want to poke fun at people who are not getting into relationships then get all pissy when met with the same attitude. Can I ask, who did I poke fun at? Which one of my responses read as being insulting toward you so I can informedly apologize.
>There's nothing sane or normal about blindly trusting a stranger with your life, and there will never be. What are you referencing in this part anon? Being in a relationship isn’t blindly trusting a stranger with your life, it’s getting to know someone and building a cohesive bond with them.
>You're the broken attention seeker who is never satisfied and can never get on her feet on her own, not me or any of the single nonnas. Not everyone wants kids/a family either, so not everyone sees the nonexistent value of relationships like your delusional ass does.What do you mean by this anon? Do you think that being in a relationship means that we can’t work or create things too?
No. 2484209
>>2483435The resurgence of measles in America because of dumbass parents that refuse to vaccinate their children makes me so angry. People are hosting ‘measles parties’ because they think it’s like chicken pox where you catch it as a child, are sick for a bit, but ultimately recover and never have to worry
about it again. Which just shows how uneducated they are. Measles can cause blindness, encephalitis, breathing problems, not to mention the risk of death, and yet they are willing to risk their kids health and life because they see themselves as freedom fighters rebelling against the government, they are perpetually stuck in 2020. I think one of the worst impacts of covid was how it emboldened anti-vaxxers and their retardation.
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>>2484192She says it kind of like "fried egg"
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>>2484190>Can I ask, who did I poke fun at? Which one of my responses read as being insulting toward you so I can informedly apologize. Saying someone who rejects ~le magical romantique love~ has something wrong with them isn't an insult to you?
>What are you referencing in this part anon? Being in a relationship isn’t blindly trusting a stranger with your life, it’s getting to know someone and building a cohesive bond with them. Yes it fucking is. You don't truly know the person and what's going on in their minds no matter how long you know them for. There will always be a hidden part you don't know about that they'll only show to you when you're stuck with them and can't ever get away from them. Or they'll never show you so you don't leave when you should. There's no guarantee it's 100% perfect, compatible and safe. Real people are too flawed for that to work and for a relationship to ever be truly happy. You'll have to lie to yourself, cope, and compromise and sacrifice so much of yourself, your time and your life to make it actually work. And I don't think it's worth it. Another person is never worth any of that. Again, you should prioritize yourself or you'll end up regretting it.
>What do you mean by this anon? Do you think that being in a relationship means that we can’t work or create things too?Stop being obtuse. You're the one in a relationship and know what it entails. But I guess being into relationships is fundamentally for people who have nothing else to do with their lives so I'm not surprised you don't get how empty your life comes off to outsiders. All you talk about and pretend brings you happiness is your relationship because you legitimately have nothing else in your life. Why isn't it "people who reject having hobbies have something wrong with them" or something? You wouldn't even see a person who's enjoying a hobby say shit about hobbyless people either. It's always the nigelfags who seethe about normal non-nigelfags who are happy and content without that shit. Again, if it was so great you wouldn't need to shill it in the first place.
No. 2484219
>>2484152so devil's advocate let's say you are correct and there's something horribly wrong with someone for not chasing after sexual/romantic relationships and have it be a major part of their life. doesn't change the following fact: most people are hetero…and most men aren't truly romantic nor dyadic nor are they romantically attracted to old women. so you're shitting on people for not trying to chase after something that, by design, isn't sustainable, isn't the default natural way of living life, is often superficially social status based, has been leveraged to exploit women for centuries and get them into inequitable relationships, and often is a temporary state of being even in better case scenarios.
see, there's a dark side to all of this: the countless women that end up obsessed with chasing that youthful honeymoon high…who end up with men who abuse their children…who end up insecure and frantic over dying alone only to end up with a man that abandons her when she's dying of cancer, a man she likely spent far less time with her friends, community, and family for. if one person is most of the reason for your happiness that isn't sustainable compared to actually having a loving village around you. it's like a lottery you pay with money, and pieces of your heart. there's a small chance you could gain something that'll enrich your life forever, but is it kind or pragmatic to say that anyone that doesn't play is some freak or factually missing out? no. in fact that sounds like a shitty salesmen trying to shame people for not playing their game, and for most of the people that win from this devaluation of alternative lifestyles…to be awful men.
No. 2484229
>>2484214Well, no. Because it isn’t an insult.
> You don't truly know the person and what's going on in their minds no matter how long you know them for. There will always be a hidden part you don't know about that they'll only show to you when you're stuck with them and can't ever get away from them. Or they'll never show you so you don't leave when you should. There's no guarantee it's 100% perfect, compatible and safe. Real people are too flawed for that to work and for a relationship to ever be truly happy. You'll have to lie to yourself, cope, and compromise and sacrifice so much of yourself, your time and your life to make it actually work.This sounds like a pretty paranoid point of view to go through life with. Is this how you feel about all of your relationships, or just romantic ones?
>You’re the one in a relationship and know what it entailsYes anon, I have been in a longterm relationship for most of my life with the same person. Your post says
>You're the broken attention seeker who is never satisfied and can never get on her feet on her own, not me or any of the single nonnas. So I am asking, why would I not be satisfied with my life in a happy relationship? Why would I not be able to get on my own two feet? What exactly is making you think that?
>But I guess being into relationships is fundamentally for people who have nothing else to do with their lives so I'm not surprised you don't get how empty your life comes off to outsiders. I’m kinda confused now, anon. Do you think that being romantically in love with someone means that the rest of your life and the other things you have going on suddenly stop and you’re only allowed to focus on your bf/gf? Because that is nowhere near accurate to reality and being an adult in an adult relationship kek.
>All you talk about and pretend brings you happiness is your relationship because you legitimately have nothing else in your life. I made one post about my unpopular opinion in the thread for posting unpopular opinions.
>Why isn't it "people who reject having hobbies have something wrong with them" or something? You wouldn't even see a person who's enjoying a hobby say shit about hobbyless people either.Because that’s not what I was thinking about? If thats how you feel then feel free to make a post about how you think people being hobbyless is weird but that’s not what my post is about simply because that’s not what my opinion was or what my thoughts were about at the time I was composing my original post.
>t's always the nigelfags who seethe about normal non-nigelfags who are happy and content without that shit. Again, if it was so great you wouldn't need to shill it in the first place.Really the only one who seems to be seething about my harmless opinion is you, anon. Also, is just bringing up a topic now considered “shilling”?
No. 2484232
>>2484219I mean if you think its completely “unsustainable” to ever find love then, once again, you probably have some type of mental illness.
>>2484228>She made fun of the anon calling her "authoritarian" but that anon is kinda right that she's trying to force people into lifestyles not compatible with them because she thinks otherwise is not normal or whatever. Who am I trying to force into any lifestyle? All I did was post my opinion. Also, the anon I was replying to was mis-using the word authoritarian. There’s nothing authoritarian about my post or my opinion It’s not authoritarian to think that someone who behaves in a mentally ill way is probably mentally unstable.
>Assuming it's a "her" in the first place, lol. Caring about relationships so hard is such a male thing.I’m sorry, did I read that correctly? KEK wtf how is it masculine at all to just say “being in a happy relationship improves you life”? It’s just the truth.
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>>2484229>This sounds like a pretty paranoid point of view to go through life with. Is this how you feel about all of your relationships, or just romantic ones? You can't be possibly that naive? Ofcourse I don't think that way about a friendship, because I'm not living for the rest of my life with a friend and sharing finances with them and legally tied to them like in marriage, and I can cut them off whenever I want and they will rarely take it too personally and try and take revenge, unlike an ex, especially a male ex. What's so hard to understand about that?
>So I am asking, why would I not be satisfied with my life in a happy relationship? Why would I not be able to get on my own two feet? What exactly is making you think that? Simply that you needed another person to be actually happy. That speaks volumes about what kind of person you are, and it's not a very good image if your happiness is dependent on another person like that. Why couldn't you have real happiness and dopamine on your own from things you enjoy doing or friendships or family? Why did it have to be a romantic relationship exactly? You're falling for nature's trick to make you reproduce and think you're intellectual and special for it. When there's no difference between you and a wild animal in this regard.
>I’m kinda confused now, anon. Do you think that being romantically in love with someone means that the rest of your life and the other things you have going on suddenly stop and you’re only allowed to focus on your bf/gf? Because that is nowhere near accurate to reality and being an adult in an adult relationship kek. Unironically yes, that's how it works and what it's all about. It's attention seekers seeking attention from other attention seekers. If everyone gets in a relationship with the goal of it being their source of happiness, why would they need to do anything else in life? Doing something else to make you happy would imply to your partner that their super duper special love isn't enough to make you happy and by default proves relationships aren't everything or the secret to true happiness.
>I made one post about my unpopular opinion in the thread for posting unpopular opinions. Yes, and you claimed real special unique strong happiness or whatever comes from a relationship only, and not getting into one means never being happy. Think about what that implies a little bit harder.
>Really the only one who seems to be seething about my harmless opinion is you, anon. Also, is just bringing up a topic now considered “shilling”?God forbid someone disagrees with you I guess. Your opinion has been posted 1000 times before already, lurk moar I guess. And yes, it's shilling because you're trying too hard to prove it's the best thing ever and no one should ever reject it or they're bad.
>I’m sorry, did I read that correctly? KEK wtf how is it masculine at all to just say “being in a happy relationship improves you life”? It’s just the truth.Last time I checked, it's males killing themselves over being single. I wonder why? Hint: they're the ones who need that shit like oxygen to function because they benefit from it fully. Women don't need it as much and that's why they're happy single and don't kill themselves over it. So yes, caring about that stuff is male-brained. Even in their memes they admit they want a happy relationship so bad because it's the only life goal they have since they're such empty husks and not real people. Any woman who subscribes to this mindset is male brained to me.
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>>2484252>Sharing finances with them It’s not 1950 anon, you and your husband are allowed to have separate bank accounts. At least in America kek.
>Simply that you needed another person to be actually happy. That speaks volumes about what kind of person you are, and it's not a very good image if your happiness is dependent on another person like that. Could you greentext which part of my post made you feel that way? I don’t think that being in a relationship is the only good thing in my life. I think that being in a relationship where we support each other and communicate easily only makes my good life that much better. I said it
improves your life a tenfold.
>Why couldn't you have real happiness and dopamine on your own from things you enjoy doing or friendships or family? Why did it have to be a romantic relationship exactly? I get dopamine from the other things in my life sure, but what I have with the love of my life isn’t really the same as the type of happiness I get from spending time with my mom or doing a good job at work.
>You're falling for nature's trick to make you reproduce and think you're intellectual and special for it. I don’t feel that way nor did I ever claim to think that I’m somehow intellectual or special for enjoying a happy relationship, anon.
>Unironically yes, that's how it works and what it's all about. It's attention seekers seeking attention from other attention seekers. Ok hold on I just wanna clarify something first, are you thinking of any person who gets into a relationship period? and I mean, not to be overliteral but all humans do is seek attention.
>If everyone gets in a relationship with the goal of it being their source of happiness, why would they need to do anything else in life? Anon, again, I think you’re autistically misunderstanding what we’ve talked about so far. My original post does not say “If your only source of happiness in life is not your romantic relationship there’s something wrong with you”.
>Doing something else to make you happy would imply to your partner that their super duper special love isn't enough to make you happy and by default proves relationships aren't everything or the secret to true happiness.This made me laugh out loud kek. So, do you think people in relationships don’t have jobs or hobbies or do things that they think are fun or fulfilling alongside their relationship? Do you think we’re not allowed to experience love and also have fun, or, get this; have fun
with the person we love?
>Yes, and you claimed real special unique strong happiness or whatever comes from a relationship only, and not getting into one means never being happy. Think about what that implies a little bit harder.No anon, that’s not what I’ve said. I said that if you’re someone who
rejects romantic love there’s probably something wrong with you, and so far this aspergian conversation has proven me right kek.
>And yes, it's shilling because you're trying too hard to prove it's the best thing ever and no one should ever reject it or they're bad.What exactly are you referencing?
>So yes, caring about that stuff is male-brained…Any woman who subscribes to this mindset is male brained to me.So just to clarify you think it’s male brained to have a good life when you’re in a happy relationship being treated well.
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>>2484252I love how that nonna completely ignored the fact that most men aren't romantically orientated, or aren't romantically attracted to women of a certain age because it shows how much of it is a performance for her where the logistics and longevity of the connection don't matter. almost like the idea of being in a happy relationship eclipses actually being truly loved by a man for deep, nonsuperficial reasons in her mind.
>>2484232slimy how you insinuate those with lost or traumatic love must be mentally ill if they don't rebound onto the next cock/pussy, but then are still pretending your only real point is just "oh happy relationships improve someone's life!"
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>>2484272>slimy how you insinuate those with lost or traumatic love must be mentally ill if they don't rebound onto the next cock/pussy, but then are still pretending your only real point is just "oh happy relationships improve someone's life!”First of all, I wasn’t talking about that because I simply wasn’t thinking about being widowed or experiencing a traumatic breakup. But second of all, yeah if you do experience trauma like that then you do probably have some type of emotional issues and hence have something wrong with you that you need to work through; obviously not by immediately jumping back into a relationship.
>almost like the idea of being in a happy relationship eclipses actually being truly loved by a man for deep, nonsuperficial reasons in her mind. But anon, being truly loved by a man for deep, nonsuperficial reasons is what a happy heterosexual relationship is comprised of. What did you think a happy relationship is?
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>>2484270>It’s not 1950 anon, you and your husband are allowed to have separate bank accounts. At least in America kek. Doesn't change the fact that he'd likely be the owner of the house you live in and hold that over you. Or that you both put your money together at times to buy stuff and it becomes a big deal when one of you decides to buy something they think is necessary for both you but the other disagrees and thinks it's a waste.
>Could you greentext which part of my post made you feel that way? I don’t think that being in a relationship is the only good thing in my life. I think that being in a relationship where we support each other and communicate easily only makes my good life that much better. I said it improves your life a tenfold. Then why is someone living without a relationship so wrong to you? Why is their life and happiness "illegitimate" compared to the happiness gained from a relationship? You're still overestimating the importance of romantic love and projecting it onto others and getting weirded out they don't see it the same as you. People are different.
>I get dopamine from the other things in my life sure, but what I have with the love of my life isn’t really the same as the type of happiness I get from spending time with my mom or doing a good job at work. That's called being horny. Also, to you, it seems so wow, but maybe to other people it's not as good or there are things that feel better. Have you considered that?
>Anon, again, I think you’re autistically misunderstanding what we’ve talked about so far. My original post does not say “If your only source of happiness in life is not your romantic relationship there’s something wrong with you”.Yes it is, because if it wasn't, you wouldn't need to state or have this opinion anyways.
>This made me laugh out loud kek. So, do you think people in relationships don’t have jobs or hobbies or do things that they think are fun or fulfilling alongside their relationship? Do you think we’re not allowed to experience love and also have fun, or, get this; have fun with the person we love? Then why can't you have fun alone if that's true? Or with a friend? Why does it have to be a romantic partner for the fun to count?
>No anon, that’s not what I’ve said. I said that if you’re someone who rejects romantic love there’s probably something wrong with you, and so far this aspergian conversation has proven me right kek. Again, what's wrong with rejecting it? If you don't believe it's the only thing that matters and the best thing ever, then there shouldn't be anything wrong with someone rejecting anyways because it isn't as important as you claim.
>What exactly are you referencing? Your original post smart ass. It's basically saying "get in a relationship and accept love or else…"
>So just to clarify you think it’s male brained to have a good life when you’re in a happy relationship being treated well.Yes. Treat yourself well and stay away from males. Not hard. And it's always the male who actually gets treated well and benefits from it anyways. The woman rarely gets an equal good treatment, she always gets the short end of the stick no matter what. The male objectively gets the most of a relationship, it can never be equal. Why do you even need someone to treat you well in your life to be happy? That’s stupid.
>>2484277By saying someone who got hurt or traumatized "has something wrong with them" you're placing the blame and shame on them. It's an awful choice of words. But expected from a cocksucker whore. Where is BJchan when we need her.
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>>2484292kek, those type of people always get me cuz they take something that…ought to be nice, like love, and then twist it into something cruel. if she's really in a happy relationship with a compassionate and intelligent man that's dedicated, it's pretty much like waving what she sees like a rare prize in other people's faces and telling them there's something wrong with them for not chasing after it. not surprised at the lowkey
victim blaming/shaming too.
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>>2484292>He’d likely be the owner of the house you live inYou do know in America you’re also allowed to co-own homes or co-rent your apartment together…right? I know there are a lot of non-Burger nonnies but I’m speaking from an American perspective
>Then why is someone living without a relationship so wrong to you? Why is their life and happiness "illegitimate" compared to the happiness gained from a relationship? You're still overestimating the importance of romantic love and projecting it onto others and getting weirded out they don't see it the same as you. People are different. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with not being in a relationship, and you’re putting the word illegitimate in quotes but I never used that word, because that’s not what I think kek. I said that
if you’re someone who rejects love, there’s probably something wrong with you. I don’t think their life and happiness is illegitimate, I’m just saying they probably have something wrong with them if they reject love. I understand completely that people are different anon.
>That's called being horny. Also, to you, it seems so wow, but maybe to other people it's not as good or there are things that feel better. Have you considered that?Lmao nona the more things you say in this vein the more I feel like I’m having this conversation with a kid. Feeling horny or turned on is a physical sensation, feeling loved, feeling fulfilled, feeling safe, feeling held up, feeling heard, these sensations and many others can be experienced in a healthy relationship.
>you wouldn't need to state or have this opinion anyways.So, you think me having an opinion about relationships means that I think relationships should be other humans sole source of happiness? Because that’s not even what my opinion says, and it’s not how I feel.
>Then why can't you have fun alone if that's true? Or with a friend? Why does it have to be a romantic partner for the fun to count?Anon, reread the sentence you greentexted please kek. I did not say that fun only counts if it’s being had with the person you’re in love with, all I said was that it’s possible to have fun by yourself, with your friends,
and with your mate. Also, just cause I can have fun at work or traveling or with my family, why
shouldn’t I also have fun with my love?
>what's wrong with rejecting it? If you don't believe it's the only thing that matters and the best thing ever, then there shouldn't be anything wrong with someone rejecting anyways because it isn't as important as you claimI said verbatim; if you’re someone who rejects romantic love there’s probably something wrong with you. So, I have no idea what exactly is wrong with the people who reject romantic love or don’t know how to accept it anon, cause I’m not a shrink and I don’t know how to analyze someone’s feelings or diagnose what mental illnesses someone could be dealing with.
>”get in a relationship and accept love or else”If that’s how you interpreted my original post anon then I’m not really sure how I can better articulate myself to help you comprehend what I’m expressing more efficiently, because that’s not what I am saying at all kek.
>And it's always the male who actually gets treated well and benefits from it anyways. The woman rarely gets an equal good treatment, she always gets the short end of the stick no matter what. The male objectively gets the most of a relationship, it can never be equal. Why do you even need someone to treat you well in your life to be happy? That’s stupid. What you’re describing doesn’t sound like a happy relationship where you’re being loved and supported though, that sounds like an
abusive relationship.
> saying someone who got hurt or traumatized "has something wrong with them" you're placing the blame and shame on them.That’s not accurate though, because it’s not blaming/shaming someone for anything by stating an actual fact. If you have a mental illness, then yeah. There is something wrong with you. If it hurts your feelings to read those words, then you should continue putting in the effort to work through your trauma instead of squelching in victimhood for the rest of your days. It is a harsh sentence to read, but it is the reality of life and it is what you come to realize as being true.
>>2484308> if she's really in a happy relationship with a compassionate and intelligent man that's dedicated, it's pretty much like waving what she sees like a rare prize in other people's faces and telling them there's something wrong with them for not chasing after it. NTA but I did not say that, I’m not trying to sound like I am bragging about anything or trying to upset anyone with my opinion.
>not surprised at the lowkey victim shaming/blaming too.I’m not trying to
victim shame when I say that if you are experiencing trauma that there’s something wrong with you, but yeah as someone whos’ experienced trauma in life; I can confidently say in simple terms that it is something wrong with you when it worsens your life and disables your ability or desire to connect with others.
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>>2484326>If you truly believed that you wouldn't have posted your original opinion or had it in the first placeThats actually not true, because my original post is about believing that if you vehemently reject romantic love you probably have something wrong with you, not about experiencing happiness when you’re alone and when you’re with your bf/gf.
>You stated happiness is greater when experienced with a partner.Yes, because it does. That is not the same sentence as “I need a partner to be happy”.
>You yourself said happiness with partner > any other happiness, and not experiencing happiness with a partner bad. Stop trying to backtrack now. None of my posts said that though, I said there’s probably something wrong with you emotionally/mentally if you reject romantic love. Not that it’s bad to experience happiness without a husband/wife. Also it’s not backtracking to re-articulate myself so that you can understand what I’m saying easier.
No. 2484349
>>2484331What's so hard about understanding that not everyone needs romantic love to be happy hence why they reject it and don't give a shit about it?
>Yes, because it does. That is not the same sentence as “I need a partner to be happy”. Yes it is. You're being condescending to anyone who experiences happiness without a partner and telling them it's not good enough and they won't understand real happiness until they get with a partner. That's literally what you're insinuating by saying "there's something wrong with people who reject romantic love". You're saying they're incomplete and the bad guy here.
>I said there’s probably something wrong with you emotionally/mentally if you reject romantic love. Not that it’s bad to experience happiness without a husband/wife.You believe the former because you believe the latter. If someone without a partner can be as happy and have a life as good as a person with a partner then why is it an issue they don't have/want a partner and there's "something wrong with them" or their happiness or quality of life is still inferior? You never truly explained why you believe this in a logical manner either. It's all sentimental social beliefs and you rejected actual science explaining the point of human romantic relationships, i.e. reproducing. Why is there something wrong with someone for not wanting a relationship? Give me actual scientific reasoning that outweighs all the negatives that isn't "dopamine feels good" and "spending time with my nigel is superior to my mom and my friends!!", which BTW says a lot about you if you actually prefer this stranger male over a friend or your mom that literally brought you to this world. But once he wrongs you you'll run back to them asking for help and advice and sympathy when moments ago you didn't even value them that much. Funny how that works.