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No. 2328051
>>2328044It’s very obvious all of them are sexually repressed virgins who don’t have any options so they call themselves “celibates”/believe
femcels are actually real or are actual teenage children simping for him. The soft-brain lack of developed prefrontal cortex vibe is apparent with the luigisperging.
No. 2328054
>>2328051Nobody in the thread has mentioned celibacy or
femcels. I also don't know why you'd think anyone itt is a teen
No. 2328055
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>>2328054>lack of reading comprehension >wants to literally be handheld to use their brain like a typical zoomerpic unrelated
No. 2328301
>>2328272censorship is “the suppression or prohibition of any parts of books, films, news, etc. that are considered obscene, politically unacceptable, or a threat to security“, a VPN ban is not actually “censoring”, anything per se; it’s
preventing annoying bullshit from being spread like an infection here by total spergs in the first place kek
No. 2328303
>>2328297Being “negative” doesn’t meant the post quality has gone down. I can’t wait until this world is fucking destroyed, I’m honestly so tired of having to obey and submit to soulless husks who get
triggered at the scent of reality on their screens.
No. 2328306
>>2328301The VPN ban is actively censoring many voices from posting on the website, it’s censoring of another person’s speech and ability to express themselves especially for others who don’t live in the US. It’s also a breach of privacy. Nobody is entitled to use a shitty website I get that but I’m surely going to voice my
valid opinion that VPN banning is retarded and you need to get thicker skin. If you can’t handle certain words on a screen and can’t somehow win an internet argument (simply by closing the screen and walking away) then you shouldn’t be using the website. It’s very annoying that the moderators keep using newfags and certain types of users as an excuse to be lazy as shit and to censor people. Censoring people also makes their FREE and UNPAID responsibilities even easier since they have a tight and manageable herd of sheep who will bootlick every kinds of tripe they type up and will make sure to mince their poor mean cruel words against strangers online! If I’m not entitled to a website where I can use a VPN you’re not entitled to people being nice to you. Go fuck yourself
No. 2328325
>>2328314You actually disgust me, actual concern trolling by pretending to not know what the VPN ban really is about. I don’t care about the arbitrary fluff about why the VPN ban exists, it purely exists to censor people, it’s not rocket science. It’s honestly the same generic copy-paste shit now, pretend to be innocent like you don’t know how the fuck to read people’s posts and pretend to “innocently” ask a question again pretending to be dumb to further frame your own agenda and confuse people. It’s to censor people, band people in the same groups, categorize and give titles to faceless people by thinking /pol/ spergs, chronic baiters, etc. are all the same making these applied rules very arbitrary and done with no context. If someone writes their posts with the slightest hints of snark and attempts to insult, they are banned. If someone even attempts to rock the boat and bring up interesting topics that pisses off the bootlickers they are subject to these arbitrarily written rules. They treat /ot/ as the gossip boards, which makes me feel like they’re rotating moderators from the gossip boards which I thought the same moderator is assigned to only one singular board and that’s it but apparently not. Something sniffs like shit and I seriously think the admin is a completely different person because why are the mods always the ones calling shots for what should happen with the website? Why should an admin who barely even uses the website herself even immediately co-sign this shit?? Nobody asks questions you bootlickers just happily accept it because now those people you were definitely egging on in an infight you can simply just head to /meta/ with your own version of the story or mass report and it gets taken down. The moderation is actually horseshit and now seriously typing your opinions and saying “mean words” should get you banned on a place where worse shit is said about lolcows lmfao
No. 2328337
>>2328325nona not even being flippant when i ask this; if you really feel that way about the moderation, then why are you even still here?
>now seriously typing your opinions and saying “mean words” should get you banned on a place where worse shit is said about lolcows lmfaojust because we talk shit on lolcows doesn’t mean we need to be rude to or infight with each other, it’s really not hard to behave with a little bit of dignity when socializing with other anons
No. 2328341
>>2328330Sorry anon if I articulated myself poorly I didn’t mean to make it sound like I was referring to the anons who are standing behind the VPN ban, I was talking about the banned users who had been using VPN’s to access our site and were banished to CC during the weeks of hellmas
>>2328329>I’m sorry that some anons acted crazy on CC>I wish you disordered bitches could be euthanized Kek, happy new year to you too, nona!
No. 2328348
>>2328342that's why i said "the overuse of" and "in recent years"
nonnie, not the word itself
No. 2328452
>>2328378>Cherry pickingYou keep saying this as if there weren't dozens and dozens of posts on CC talking exclusively about the desire to bait, infight, samefag, and be a general nuisance. It's bullshit and you know it.
>>2328368>The JC threads were completely free of infighting.There was less than 50 posts on the JC bunker during the VPN ban.
>>2328367You think that VPN companies won't hand over your information if law enforcement requests it?
>>2328365If you are that paranoid about farmhands exposing your posts, get on some Prozac or something. Why would random jannies give a fuck about what you post? You act like the jannies seeing your IP is the same as them seeing a recent face picture, your social security number, address, phone number, and email.
No. 2328565
>>2328560and samefag, they’re just not interesting either
>oh my god, another attention whoring social media addicted woman11!? she needs a thread!kek they’re literally all basically the same person now, theres no variety or charisma. at least with onision, lainey, and billie there was real absurdism and drama!
No. 2328568
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>>2328563junkuchan, a shelter imageboard ran by an asian boy we call “cuckmin” kek
No. 2328582
>>2328568oh shit I'm retarded I should've been able to connect the dots. sorry to make you spoonfeed kek
>>2328574don't worry quean I won't post on your board
No. 2328586
>>2328574sorry anon she just asked a question and i answered it? also i didn’t see sperging like this when lolcow was down for 10 days and everyone was suggesting different imageboards to bunker in on CC
>you’re the type of person that posts LCF of social media for telling an anon about an imageboard that has already been posted here kek do you need some essential oils or something because you need to chill
No. 2328592
>>2328526This
I'm a normal user and I just stopped using the site last month. The admin have revealed users in the past for no reason other than shits and giggles. You have to be stupid to use this site without a vpn.
No. 2328615
>>2328597you should go ahead and write a book about imageboard etiquette if you’re such an expert on it, tizzy.
>>2328607>>2328611i really don’t think it’ll change at all kek, it’s a very dead imageboard
>>2328612nta but junkuchan is already ran and frequented primarily by men because its a porn website? what are you talking about
No. 2328631
>>2328626nta but
>didnt advertise the shelter thread on other imageboards do admins do that when their website starts getting more traffic just from sheltering users?
No. 2328651
>>2328646>what are you talking about?>wow you have no idea what is going onyou are right i don’t understand why anons are getting angry with
me and trying to tell me that i’ll ruin /cuckquean/ and that trannies and scrotes will come invade jc, but it is already owned, operated, and frequented solely by men?
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>>2328652Based, proud of you. Let's hope it wasn't all for nothing.
No. 2328836
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>>2328350>cherry pickedyou can keep saying this, but the fact is there were hundreds of posts like picrel. cc mods ended up deleting something like 200 posts from the lc hate threads on cc that the vpn tards were congregating in anyway, so a some of them are gone but a lot of them are still up. these are the types of posters that don't deserve to be on lc.
No. 2328972
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We need a VPN ban. Today this board was so ass. I really dgaf about the 20 anons that "need" a VPN to post when we have 200 retarded chimps that are hellbent on shitting up the board with the most tired and unfunny bait.
No. 2328990
>>2328983It's seriously so obvious at this point that VPN ban is a necessity, at least for /ot/. Why bother using this board when it's all just bait regurgitated for the 100th time posted by VPN spergs?
>>2328986Yeah, and it got banned. If you post bait, you should get banned. Bans should mean something. Bans shouldn't just be decorative. When VPNs are allowed, bans are just decoration. If that poster gets banned right now, it could just click a button and boom, in 2 seconds go right back to baiting.
No. 2328999
>>2328992if you think thats what this is about you're not getting it
>>2328997cant wait for the vpn ban to be a permanent feature
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>>2328836They go on CC to brag about it too after the fact. This is a common thing to do for a lot of baiters.
No. 2329018
>>2329015Don't be glib
>>2329009Hence why range bans are effective and need to be used more commonly alongside VPN bans
No. 2329047
>>2329009this is such a bullshit reason to not ban VPNs.
>banning VPNs curbed so many evaders>YEAH WELL THERE'S OTHER WAYS TO DO ITlike ok and? why wouldn't we want them to implement tools to cut down a large number of them? sure it isn't all of it but it's a good amount of it. why wouldn't we want that just because a few annoying faggots go the extra mile?
weird
No. 2329062
>>2329056Can you not read? I said I don't care if they're banned kek throwing other peoples flimsy points at me doesnt make them mine.
>maybe this site isn't for youDefinitely not. It's gotten extremely uninteresting in the past three years, a major decline in the userbase overall. It wasn't even this cringe in 2014. I post occasionally still, but the cycle of ot chatposters larp too much and it's like talking to children most of the time–I'm just saying the site is a dump either way.
No. 2329067
>>2329062you "don't care" about it so much that you decided to post the same argument about why it doesn't matter in /meta/.
back on topic, i am for the VPN ban. i'd been waiting for it, and it didn't disappoint. i really hope it's implemented for good
No. 2329307
>>2329292Clarifying the rules as to what belongs on /ot/, /g/ and /m/ would probably help solve some of the problems with /ot/. A lot of newfags don't browse other boards so anything and everything just gets dumped on /ot/ when really it should be on /m/, /g/ or even /snow/.
Another issue with /ot/ is that there are so many hate threads and threads that are political. /ot/ used to be a relaxed board where anons would discuss random topics with each other. Now it's become politicized and this attracts the wrong type of poster that comes here to argue their political viewpoints.
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I understand the why but please don’t reinstate the ban cc is too weird for me please let me stay here! I don’t use vpn but still couldn’t post and I’m too chicken to email mods about it.
No. 2329656
>>2329597IME the goldstar and comphet discourse is an eternal thorn and hot topic in lesbian and even bi spaces because the people who engage in them are usually mad at the time for good or bad reasons.
I think the muh-bisluts freak is a separate organism, distinct from other anons by its singularly obsessive nature that repeats exact phrases verbatim across its posts. Other anons might still chime in on the rants so it's a 'not all rectangles are squares' situation.
No. 2329743
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>what changes do you expect to happen for LC in the upcoming future? any theories of culture change, moderation, etc. I've posted what happens next here
>>>/meta/88201 No. 2329947
>>2329262The site in general doesn't have enough traffic to warrant being split up the way it is. Merging boards would probably be better for thread traffic.
>>2329307/ot/ used to be a relaxed board before all the chill threads were moved to /m/ when it was created, leaving more of the hateful threads behind.
No. 2329967
>>2329954In practice most people have 'home boards'. It's well known in UI design that every swipe or button press you add will slow the user (that's why so many apps now are designed around vertically scrolling feeds).
>>2329955And the reason /ot/ is infight central is because the infight threads used to be offset by a bunch of chill threads. The chill threads got moved which raised the overall conflict level of /ot/. I don't think /m/ should have ever been made, the outcome was super predictable and panned out exactly the way I thought it would.
At minimum I think the admin should at least consider adding captcha or stricter timers on individual threads to prevent impulsive, low effort flooding.
No. 2329989
>>2329954Agreed. When I was a newfag, I felt that certain boards should be merged tbh (inb4 aggro anons take this the wrong way, I’m not calling anons who feel this way newfags, I’m just speaking from personal experience), but after a while you notice the difference in board culture. I think more anons stick to a certain board than you might expect, as
>>2329967 said. Multiple boards also allows threads to be banished to a less popular board that might stir up infighting. For example, husbando threads being confined to /g/ limits blackpill sperging on /ot/.
>>2329981Are you referring to captcha like 4chan has? If so, I stand by my earlier post. Please, no. It’s such a pain in the ass imo. Besides, lcf is already slow. I don’t think we need captcha to slow down spammers in the way 4chan might.
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>what changes do you expect to happen for LC in the upcoming future? any theories of culture change, moderation, etc.
I don't know tbh, I just think everything's going to somehow get worse.
>did you enjoy the ban?
I did.
>did you hate the ban?
No, I support it
>did anything really change during the ban?
From what I saw in the threads I browse, only for the first few days after the ban when it was more peaceful. As time went on post quality just went to shit again.
>was milk better or worse during the ban?
I don't use the cow boards so can't answer this
>what did you do during the holidays if you couldn’t access the website through a vpn?
I don't use a vpn to post.
>did you hate the luigisperging?
No, I was following them and thought it was hilarious and a good time but I do think the novelty has worn off.
>should the mods have done better?
Ehh, don't know. Wasn't really paying attention to them.
>other subjects related to it, etc.
I'm of the opinion that vpns should stay banned on the offtopic boards but not the cow ones. If you're paranoid about the mods having your post history through your IP then… just don't post in a way that could identify you, even subtly lie if you have to. That's part of being anonymous, no?
No. 2330105
>>2330075>a few other incidents of referencing things anons posted in other threads that would be impossible for a normal anon to know without looking through their historyso tired of this line. if anons decide to forgo their anonymity by acting like a personalityfag or constantly revealing personal info about themselves, sooner or later anyone that pays enough attention will catch on and be able to identify them.
a good example is that retard from northern ireland. tldr; an anon from ni decided to post the same vents for a month straight, reveal personal info about herself, post pics of herself, confirmed her location, and talk about herself and her life to such a point that some anons recognized her and told her to stop attentionwhoring and linked back a bunch of her posts. then, the irish anon went ballistic and emailed cerbmin about it because she was convinced farmhands were the ones that revealed her post history, instead of just admitting that she was stupid enough to forgo her anonymity.
a lot of retards on here don't understand the principle of anonymity. they don't understand how to be anonymous. just because none of us have usernames doesn't mean none of us can be recognized.
if one anon consistently makes a very strange misspelling, for example, it becomes easy to track them across multiple threads based on that misspelling.
it's not "impossible" to notice very obvious patterns. inb4 "urrr durrr take ur meds" — just because you're too retarded to notice things like that doesn't mean everyone else is.
>>2330090>still calls it /ot instead of /ot/>doesnt know what we call people that only use /ot/pathetic
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>>2330209Yup. I caught this tard on /meta/ before it was deleted.
No. 2330287
>mods allow /ot/ to become a shithole, plagued by infight and hate threads that attract males, trannies and baiters
>Predictably, it becomes the shittiest board
>Instead of literally just deleting the problematic threads (unpopular opinions, etc), they ban VPNs instead
>"Y'know what?? We shouldn't stop there, let's van VPNs at EVERY BOARD"
Wtf I hate /ot/ users now. /m/ doesn't need a vpn ban (chillest board), /snow/ users are mostly against a vpn ban for milk reasons, /g/ I'm not sure but obviously is not THAT much of a mess as /ot/. /ot/ is a disgrace and it needs tighter moderation, you all can put all the damn bans you want at that board, but the whole site?? Why??
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>27775 posts in 2 weeks
>13.4% made through a VPN
>3722 posts made through a VPN
>86.6% of posts made without a VPN
>24053 posts made without a VPN
The pro-VPN crowd seems really 1-dimensional. Why should we care about a group of people that contribute so little to
the site?
No. 2330314
>>2330298This is quite curious to me, it's actually a very small percentage of VPN users, so, what are the chances such a small number contributes to 90% of bait?
>>2330313schizo
No. 2330385
>>2330337>>2330338these are good ideas maybe you should request them in /meta/?
>>2330308Good point
No. 2331341
>>2331311>>2331334>Bait is fun! I love infighting! You take the website too seriously, tee hee!Can't wait until the VPN ban is permanent. Seriously go make some friends. Go outside and talk to people and make friends.
>>2331316Already 20+ redtexts so far. The issue is that the moderators aren't here 24/7, so if there's a big infight going on for example and they're not fast enough to respond to reports, it continues to get worse and more out of hand and more reports are made.
>>2331319Not banning VPNs just triples the workload for farmhands, especially on /ot/. I don't know why it's even a question of whether or not it should be implemented. I don't hate the farmhands, in fact I think they're probably doing way too much work for free. At least with a VPN ban they get a lighter workload.
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>>2331425it's always the same lines with vpntards kek
No. 2331453
>>2331429Wait that anon was so right though until they had to add the last part of the tradfags getting their posts banned, that was deserved. I think all of the autists moved to /snow/ and /m/ and /ot/ is full of normies and children now
>>2331443It was absolutely shit with slow-moving posts, meaningless posts as well like not everybody comes here to use it as some chill chat room if they wanted /ot/ to be like that then it would’ve been smart to keep the dumbass shit threads. Also the amount of baiting, retardation and being unintegrated was still there and oddly enough it exposes to me how when the real users stopped using the website because of the ban, holidays, changed interests, etc. you could seriously tell most /ot/ tards are tiktok/twitter/tumblr implants. It was kind of easy to sniff out and the signs were there with the ugly man psyop and fandom thread it’s just topics that feels very teenage-girly or what insulated teenagers would only talk about, even the spergs from /m/ who think anime is the equivalent of renaissance art have chilled out with that shit but it’s just a different flavor of tism that felt slightly unusual for the website. The luigi spergs have sealed the deal with this theory, although in the past there has been infamous ugly male worship threads there was a difference between how those users spoke and the ones now.
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>>2331453Second ayrt, I still support an /ot/ VPN ban, that just wasn’t my experience though I wasn’t online a lot, but holy fuck I checked the luigifag thread and it’s even worse than I imaged… definitely underaged kek. The most recent post is just foul.
No. 2331536
>>2331517Are you admitting you found this place because of Roblox? Kek
>>2331518Notice how the mods don’t care about their behavior either, some of the mods might be newfags I’m afraid
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>I am not ban evading!
>Banned for ban evasion.
This is why a VPN ban for /ot/, certain threads on /g/, and problem threads on /snow/ is so important. These anons take bans way too personally, they think it's an attack against them instead of just upholding the harmony and culture of the site.
If an anon is constantly switching IPs, half the time they don't even realize they've been banned, so they don't even know what they're doing wrong or how to stop doing it. It seems like the most autistic, most combative, most narcissistic anons tend to be the same ones that use VPNs to post. Obviously not every person that uses a VPN is breaking rules, but at the end of the day it's pretty obvious that VPNs enable the worst type of anon to run free shitting up the boards.
I'm posting this on a VPN right now, I understand the desire to use one online, but at the end of the day so few people on this site actually use a VPN besides the same losers that sustain themselves on infighting and racebaiting all day long.
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>>2332881>VPN bans will KILL the site>Anyone that is for the VPN ban is a BOOTLICKER!>The VPN is for the TRANNY JANNIES!Do you ever get tired?
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/snow/, /w/, /m/, /pt/ and /g/ didn't have massive problems before the VPN hellmas ban, and it doesn't now. Why ban VPNs for the whole site when it's just /ot/? Just ban the VPN for certain threads on here, or autosage them like the dumbass shit thread.
No. 2333041
>>2333023>No matter how you try and spin it, we all see through it.You sound like a schizo, that is my first post in this thread. I haven't seen proof of "wandering infighters". When VPNs were banned in the Amerifag thread for the election, we didn't have increased baiting in the unpopular opinion or vent threads (for example).
On that note, the unpopular opinions thread always gets filled with bait anyway, so I'd support it being autosaged. If the baiters just move into other threads, ban them. Not every baiter is the same troon switching VPNs every 5 minutes, most will get tired and give up, and it's shitty to just rely on range bans for the persistent infighters because that punishes anons who are unlucky enough to live in the same city or town as an autist. We have mods for a reason.
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>>2333010>other boards didn't have massive problems>/snow/Selfposters in the ana thread & radfem thread
>/w/Jirai vendettafags that can't integrate for shit and ban evade like picrel
>/g/Lesbian/bihet wars held between competitive baiters to see who can be the most retarded, racists trolling in the black girl threads, /fit/tards chimping out in the ideal bodies threads
That's just off the top of my head. I don't think a VPN ban is a good idea for the cow boards, but even certain threads on those boards would benefit from a VPN ban like the ones I mentioned. It's disingenuous to act like VPNs aren't the primary tool that idiots use to evade bans.
No. 2333071
>>2333056I really don't get the point you're trying to make. If your IP address is included in a range ban, all you need to do is email the admin and tell them about the situation and they'll unban your IP.
It's stupid to expect the farmhands to be here every minute of the day. We all know that there are times when moderation is absent, usually it amounts to a few hours every day. Moderators shouldn't have to deal with all the ban evasion, because it wastes their time. VPNs limit the tools that the farmhands need to properly moderate the website.
Not every baiter has a VPN, but it's pretty obvious that VPNs are frequently used by baiters, infighters, vendettafags, and selfposters.
No. 2333118
>>2333097>No one really wants to do that because it can feel invasiveStop projecting. It really is not invasive to email the administrator of the website to ask them to help you.
>Anons also need to learn to report and ignore bait instead of constantly engaging with itIn a perfect world that would work, but in our shit world that's impossible, so it's better to just ban the #1 tool for ban evasion that baiters love to use to cut down on the bait entirely.
>>2333041>the unpopular opinions thread always gets filled with bait anywayUnpopular Opinions is bait central, yeah, but there's a major difference between a thread filling up in 2 days versus 2 weeks. During the VPN ban, we went through 3 threads, and within 4 days of the ban being lifted, we need a new thread. During fall, there were periods where there was a new Unpopular Opinions thread every day. The fact that the traffic to that thread slowed down so much during the VPN ban is telling.
No. 2333140
>>2333118>Stop projecting. It really is not invasive to email the administrator of the website to ask them to help you.There's literally an anon upthread who said she doesn't want to email the admins, I'm not projecting just because you don't like that not all anons want or like a method that might not even gleam results or a straight response kek. Range bans will just dissuade normal anons from posting at all, and if they're used too leniently, probably make the site far, far slower and more dead than what you probably would like.
>Unpopular Opinions is bait central, yeah, but there's a major difference between a thread filling up in 2 days versus 2 weeks. During the VPN ban, we went through 3 threads, and within 4 days of the ban being lifted, we need a new thread. During fall, there were periods where there was a new Unpopular Opinions thread every day. The fact that the traffic to that thread slowed down so much during the VPN ban is telling.Then why not ban VPNs in that thread specifically? The vent and confessions thread don't seem worse for wear to me, seems like something about that thread just brings out infighting (and it was bad during the ban too, just slower).
>inb4 "they'll just go to other threads"Then why didn't that happen when VPNs were banned in the amerifag thread? If autosaging is a bad idea too, then dumbass shit thread would've leaked into other threads, but that didn't happen either. Those posters just normalized or fucked off, even with VPNs at their disposal.
No. 2333167
>>2333156They're trying to rewrite a two year massively annoying issue into "ummm like 5 anons but nobody cared hehe"
>>2333162Your revisionism isn't true to the situation at all
No. 2333172
>>2333167>>2333166Then post proof. People complaining, rogue posters, people replying to deleted posts, anything besides "No you're wrong and lying and this is
lolcow revisionism", kek. I was there and I didn't see the shit you're claiming, and I don't see it now even.
No. 2333180
>>2333167They try the revisionism route because they think if they say lies confidently enough, newfags won't notice and will take their word at face value. It's a retarded strategy.
>>2333172Lmao. This is the best you could come up with?
No. 2333218
I'm more in favor of either applying VPN ban to specific problem threads or just auto-saging those threads, but if we do end up making a VPN ban /ot/ wide, could we then migrate some of the /ot/ threads to other boards? There are plenty of smaller, less active threads on /ot/ that don't have infighting (or if they do, it is extremely rare). Many probably could be moved to /m/, like the food general, the words you like thread, the travel threads, the hobby threads, some of the others too. For things like the consoomer thread, having a consoomer hoard image dump thread might work, since they're a bit similar to some of the moid dens posted in the Battlestation thread on /m/.
No. 2333224
>>2333218/m/ is for media. Food, hobbies, travel, etc., aren't about media. /ot/ isn't about infighting and baiting, it just has a really big problem with infighting and baiting because VPNs are allowed and retards can ban evade very quickly and efficiently through their VPN service.
>>2333220Stop responding to it, it's very clearly a troll.
No. 2333249
>>2333218Most of the problems in /ot/ revolve around the unpopular opinion thread specifically. It attracts moids like flies to shit for some reason. It's usually just ragebait and arguments. I have no clue why anyone would be against autosaging it.
Also, I'm praying for another hellweek so worthless posts that are only made to attack anons and shit-stir get banned. It's been going on since the start of the thread, but I'm only actively posting in it now, and it's pathetic. Reminds me of how autists and unironic Discord users would shit up /meta/ and try to "tag-team" anons like this is Tumblr or Gurugossip.
No. 2333270
>>2333263>Name one problem with it being autosaged None.
>Nearly every other thread is calm.Lol.
The newest argument from the VPN spergs:
>Akshually, it's all Unpopular Opinions' fault! If we got autosaged that, then we wouldn't need a VPN ban! Please, please, don't take away my precious ban evasion tool, please. Please, I need it, I need to evade my bans, please.The fact that the Unpopular Opinion thread even morphed into baiting and infighting central is a direct consequence of the Dumbass Shit autosage. The fact is that if baiters like to use one thread, and that thread is autosaged, then the baiters will just move onto another thread.
There's a reason that the UO thread slowed down so much during December. It's because the baiters & infighters that do use that thread to fling shit were actually banned and unable to easily evade through a VPN.
No. 2333285
>>2333278If you're that sensitive then this site might not be for you.
>>2333277I'm not talking about the contents of the thread, I'm talking about the speed of the thread. Before the VPN ban, there was a new Unpopular Opinions thread every 3-4 days, during the VPN ban there were only 3 threads made. It's pretty obvious that there's a direct link between VPN users and posting in that thread.
I think it'd be good if both of those threads were autosaged. After the VPN ban becomes permanent on /ot/ they should autosage the UO thread.
No. 2333292
>>2333285The link is that all the worst posters congregate there solely to infight. The shittiest VPN users go there, and the shittiest posters without VPNs do the same.
That's why the VPN ban is lifted, but the Black Girl General thread in /g/ isn't being spammed with scrotal bullshit right now, why the Things You Hate thread is normal, or why the Vent thread is just anons venting and helping eachother out.
I'll be fine regardless of whether VPNs are banned, but some posters ITT exaggerate the damage they do on their own when we actually need to be curtailing what kinds of threads are allowed to dominate /ot/.
No. 2333300
>>2333285KEK how is that sensitive?
>this site may not be for youNewfags
love repeating this like a broken record, its like their favorite part of the lexicon. Im saying you're all melodramatic.
No. 2333399
>>2333071>If your IP address is included in a range ban, all you need to do is email the admin and tell them about the situation and they'll unban your IP.If an IP range is blocked because it's used by a ban evading baiting retard, why would it get unblocked?
VPNs are only one method of ban evasion. Dynamic IPs and mobile data have the exact same problem which is why it never solved the problem in the Amerifag thread during the election, the anti-abortion sperg was still going after the VPN ban and during the site wide VPN ban /ot/ was less of a shit hole but still a shit hole. Banning VPNs does not negate ban evasion. If Cerbmin is serious about cleaning up /ot/ and restoring it to how it used to be, it's going to take more than banning VPNs. Personally I welcome something finally being done about the state of /ot/, even if it means that I lose the ability to post on the board.
>>2333255I'm a VPN user and I don't ban evade. It's not about VPN use, it's about having a basic level of respect for the site and it's administration. I've been using a VPN to post on LC for seven years and not once in that time has the VPN range I use been blocked because I don't intentionally break the rules and if I get banned, I take it. This isn't difficult.
No. 2333410
I’ve been here on and off since nearly the start, either 2013 or 2014. I would classify myself as a lurker now because the site just isn’t as fun as it used to be and I don’t feel like posting often. The culture has changed, more normies know about it and you can see them here all the time. The site is full of zoomers speaking like they’re on TikTok with obvious zoomerspeak who get mad when oldfags mention they can tell they’re young or new, you can even see it itt. No surprise most of the og userbase left for good when things are so bad now compared to the good days of endless milk and fast traffic. There are way too many “no fun allowed” posters shitting themselves at the sight of any joke or disagreement. Fuck, not even the occasional shitpost is ok now in the eyes of some of these people, when that’s been part of image board culture since the start, including here. Trolling and shitposting aren’t the same thing, newfriends. Anyway, I stay on the cow boards and meta for the most part and I don’t frequent the off topic boards so I can’t talk about them in depth, sorry. I’m indifferent to the Luigi stuff. I didn’t see that much of a difference in quality with the ban or how it changed my favourite threads because the site always gets slower during the holidays, so I can’t say that isn’t the main reason why things got quieter. I think staff should’ve tried that in a different month. I’m against a site wide VPN ban for many reasons, all of them already listed here. If you’re been here long enough you wouldn’t trust the moderation team. Nothing against the current staff, I think the VPN ban attempt is genuine, but let’s just say that trusting lolcow staff with your info isn’t a good idea. Just look at the site’s history. It doesn’t matter if your IP by itself can’t reveal that much information. When a user spends a lot of time here they will eventually reveal a bit about themselves, that’s just how it is, especially if they post on the off topic boards. If you have zero concerns about your post history and think you are untouchable you are new and probably got here during or post pandemic. Never trust autistic chan posters, I speak as one. Even if the current staff is all genuine and great, it just takes a new future admin or staff member to go nuts and expose everyone or get obsessed with some vendetta, so why not use your brain and think about all the possibilities and cover your asses now? Banning VPN is a privacy concern, if staff needs help moderating the shittiest threads or boards get more staff and maybe apply a long cool down time. I think some ot threads could benefit from the VPN ban to curb excessive trolling, but not the entire site. It’s already slow as fuck. I’d get rid of the most normie attracting threads instead first. They can post literally anywhere else on the internet and shouldn’t be as welcome here as they’ve been. If you’re so ass blasted about normal imageboard culture maybe “this place isn’t for you”
No. 2333415
>>2333399>during the site wide VPN ban /ot/ was less of a shit hole but still a shit hole.So why should we get rid of the VPN ban then? If /ot/ was better with the VPN ban, then the VPN ban should stay in place. I get that not every VPN user evades bans, I'm posting on a VPN myself, but the truth is that VPNs are the primary way that users get around bans. Obviously there are other ways to ban evade, but when a VPN ban is used in tandem with range bans, it can really help be a useful tool for moderation.
>>2333404>when the VPN ban takes affect give it a year and then the whole site will be deserted.Stats released last year show that on average, less than 15% of all posts are made through a VPN. I don't think that the site would die if it was 15% slower.
No. 2333429
>>2333421At the very start I said I don’t remember when I started posting here. 2013 or 2014, does it really matter? 2014 was over ten years ago. Not remembering the exact year is enough to dismiss every
valid thing I said? Fuck off.
No. 2333450
>>2333404>I think the site has lazy moderationI don't think their necessarily lazy, it's more that LC is an image board. Not only is it anonymous, image boards aren't designed around easily being able to change IP. Back in the 90s to mid-2000s most home IP addresses were static.
>>2333415I said
>Personally I welcome something finally being done about the state of /ot/, even if it means that I lose the ability to post on the board.
>Stats released last year show that on average, less than 15% of all posts are made through a VPN. I don't think that the site would die if it was 15% slower.Releasing new stats regarding VPN use would probably help posters understand the VPN issue and why a ban is necessary. If around 15% of posters are VPN users, what percentage of that 15% are genuine posters that want to use the site as intended and what percentage are ban evaders? It would be interesting to know.
>>2333442Calm down. It was a decade ago and there was a lot happening during that time period. moot banned PT threads, MF was created and then shut down, SR was created and then shut down, LC was created and all this was happening while gamergate was providing peak cows.
No. 2333453
>>2333410I agree with everything you said, it's retarded and a testament to how shit things have gotten that one anon tried to nitpick about the year you mentioned lmao.
The privacy issues don't even need to be about the admins themselves IMO. Even newfags should remember when a farmhand (some said it was an admin, but I don't remember) publicly revealed a user's IP over some kind of infight less than a year ago, and everyone agreed it was fucked up.
No. 2333460
>>2333450>If around 15% of posters are VPN users, what percentage of that 15% are genuine posters that want to use the site as intended and what percentage are ban evaders? That's not what the stats are about. It's not 15% of posters, it's 15% of posts. It's a common misconception.
>I don't think their necessarily lazyI don't think so either, but it seems pretty obvious that they're stretched thin. I'm not sure how many farmhands there are, but it'd be a good idea to open up applications and get some more. There are periods of time when there's no moderator activity, when really I think there should always be a at least 6 farmhands active. One for every board.
>>2333453The infight you're referring to was when a farmhand revealed the first few numbers of an anon's IP to prove that they were samefagging, which they were. The full IP was never revealed, and not enough was revealed to determine the anon's general location or anything like that. It's annoying seeing this parroted everywhere, I've even seen some anons claim that the farmhand "doxxed" the samefag, but it really wasn't that big of a deal. Cerbmin said that they removed the farmhand from the moderation team anyway, but I'm not sure how much I trust that. It's hard to have a lot of faith in the administration when they're so anonymous.
No. 2333467
>>2333460Even if it wasn't their entire IP, it just goes to show it only takes one spiteful or dumb janny to screw around with users, and it doesn't matter to me if IPs alone don't give up all a person's information.
I still wouldn't be against temporary VPN bans, especially on certain threads, but I see the issues with it and I'm not convinced there's merit in exchanging sitewide privacy and sacrificing some users for less bait.
No. 2333500
>>2333481How? I'm saying those things are still meant to have some degree of privacy, and people did say it was fucked up whether or not it was the full IP shown.
I just don't think it's worth it except in the case of specific threads, and I disagree with the people who think it should be sitewide.
No. 2333744
>>2333460>It's not 15% of posters, it's 15% of postsTrue, my mistake.
>>2333722Reading the original /meta/ thread where the cap was posted just reminded me how cancerous the dumbass shit spergs were all over again.