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No. 87325

A surprise month of Hellmas is now in effect. For the rest of the month of December, VPN posting will be banned and moderation will be stricter. 

The only exception to the VPN posting ban is the gender critical hidden board as we want the women posting there to be able to encrypt their traffic if they are living in a location where it may not be safe to post their opinions otherwise. 

Please note that the VPN detection API we use is about 95-98% accurate. This means that a small percentage of IPs may be incorrectly blocked or allowed through. If you are not using a VPN and your IP address is blocked, please email us at admin@lolcow.farm and we will submit a correction for your IP to the API provider and add an exception for the time being.

Why are we doing this?
There has been an uptick in the amount of baitposting and infighting in the past few months, and it has gotten much worse in the last few weeks. The use of VPNs for ban evading has made it more difficult to stamp this out.

We would like to address one type of posting in particular: infight baiting. If you are making a post, whether it's your honestly held opinion or not, and any regular user of the site should be fully aware that it is going to cause an infight, you will be banned. Some examples of this:

• Anti-fujo/hime/yume posts outside of containment
• Anti-lesbian/bisexual/het posting
• /pol/sperging
• Extreme tradfaggotry

There are other sites where you can post these opinions freely, and we encourage you to use them instead of causing infights here.

Can’t people with dynamic IPs still ban evade?
Yes they can, but we can put range bans in place that will limit their ability to do so. 

Will this change become permanent?
That is not our intention at this time, but if the userbase is strongly in favour of it, we may consider it.

No. 87326

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>>87325
AHAHAHAHAHAHA THANK YOU SO MUCH MODS.

No. 87328

Make it permanent. A few weeks is not enough

No. 87329

Goddamn finally, I'm excited to see what will come out of it

No. 87331

YYEEEEESSSSSSS FINALLY

No. 87332

cool ty

No. 87333

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Thank you admin very cool.

No. 87334

Merry Xmas!

No. 87335

>extreme tradfaggotry
i don't know if a VPN ban is gonna make that disappear jannies

No. 87336

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thank you mods!

No. 87337

based. pls turn on hellweek theme too

No. 87338

>>87337
But the snow…

No. 87339

Very nice, thank you. It will be interesting to see how the VPN ban changes things.

No. 87341

>>87337
>>87338
I have hellweek manually turned on and I love the look of snow slowly crescendoing down into the hellfire

No. 87343

>>87325
hell yeah, fantastic news. i hope this plays out well

No. 87346

thank you admin very cool. I'm curious to see if the vpn ban really will make it less cancerous here. I was lurking in the amerifag thread during the election and the vpn ban made a noticeable difference

No. 87348

Awesome news. I was just about to bitch about the ban evading cator99 vendettaposter starting shit in the tif thread again.

No. 87350

thank you mods

>>87341
kek

No. 87354

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the greatest gift, thank you based admin

No. 87356

>>87354
Cute fanart nonny

No. 87357

>>87328
Imo it should only be permanent for threads that cause the most problems (unpopular opinions, amerifags, celebricows, etc) but eventually taken off for boards like /m/ and /g/

No. 87358

>If you are making a post, whether it's your honestly held opinion or not, and any regular user of the site should be fully aware that it is going to cause an infight, you will be banned.
I'm all for this but why did you defend the right to post bait opinions in the Unpopular Opinions thread tooth and nail for so long but now you realize it's still bait so it should stop? You used to be all "women aren't a monolith we have different opinions" which was an annoying stance to be honest, considering how bad the thread got. I thought you were working on teaching people to ignore bait or something.

No. 87359

Why are the mods here so adamant against infighting? That's what makes image boards so entertaining

No. 87360

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Thank you santamin,this was much needed

No. 87362

>>87359
Because women lol

No. 87364

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best present ever, thank you!

No. 87368

>Site deader than it's ever been
>Mods chased all the oldfags off
>Literally have to go to the disgusting moid farms to get updates on cows because no one wants to post milk here anymore
>Can't get any worse, right?
>Admin: y'know what we need? Stricter moderation!
Truly bleaqué

No. 87371

Finally ! Thank you Admin-Sama !
I truly hope it will deter the usual baiters, chatrooms autists, selfposters and personnality fags.
I also suggest to be more strict with retards abusing the report system (one in particular seems to be on a mission to shut-off any discussion about weeb cows)

No. 87372

>>87368
It's only temporary

No. 87373

>>87368
And don't forget
>mods nuke dumbass shit to curb newfaggotry
>newfag population worsens
I'm starting to believe the tinfoils that the admin team and mods have been infiltrated and are trying to tank the entire site

No. 87377

>>87362
>>87358
>>87359
Moids on 4chan simply tell each others to kys but if you have any opinion on here that goes against the groupthink prepare to receive paragraphs of catty anons coming at you and derailing the thread.

No. 87378

Heterosexual female fantasy sperging in the unpopular opinions thread like clockwork.

No. 87379

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>>87378
You can't even say a dissenting opinion without crybabies asking for mods to ban the meanie weanie anons talking shit about their wholesomerino husbando. Like, what infight? They should learn to ignore opinions they don't like. I'm betting these are the same faggots who instigate infights at the same time and don't know how imageboard culture works.

No. 87380

>>87378
Heterosexual female fantasy sperging still happening, mods please ban the obvious baiters please and thank you.

No. 87381

>>87325
Based decision. Thank you cerbmin!

No. 87382

>>87379
>have fun getting banned!!
this is so gay, what's happening to the lc I know and love

No. 87383

dunno if it's just placebo effect but site feels better already. a bit slower but way less infighting and retard no nuance takes meant only to bait others.

No. 87384

>>87325
this whole site is known as a terf site, not just 2x (whether or not you actually visit any of the applicable boards). i feel like the safety of the women who use this site should take priority over infighters and baiters. i remember the site demographics showed around 1/4 to 1/3 of people on here use a vpn. if this is a permanent thing, it'll be pretty depressing. i enjoyed being able to talk openly with likeminded women when the internet in general bends to the will of our modern day cults.

if this is going to be a permanent thing, maybe it could just apply to m, g and ot.

No. 87386

>>87384
And why would a VPN ban stop you from doing this?

No. 87387

>>87359
the problem is that bitches here don't let it go and infight for days, weeks even

No. 87388

>>87359
because it becomes too obvious people are starting shit just because.

No. 87389

>>87359
cause it stops being fun after a while

No. 87390

>>87383
I've noticed this too!! I know it's probably too early to tell but everywhere honestly seems much better so far. Even the infights that are happening are obviously between genuine users and not just retards that troll as a hobby.

>>87384
Can't you still post that way? Do you live in a country where it's illegal to hate trannies or something?

No. 87402

>>87359
It's the same people infighting to post to their tumblr mutuals about how much engagement they're farming, at this point it's so obvious. The same like 4 topics too.

No. 87403

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>>87402
They're throwing fits about it on CC too.

No. 87404

I still laugh thinking about that screenshot of the anon complaining that a vpn ban will ruin the website, and then getting red texted for ban-evading kekkk.
>>87403
>it's so weird and mentally deranged that farmhands don't let me clog up an entire thread replying to myself as if I'm 12 different people
The vpn ban is a christmas miracle

No. 87405

>>87403
I just know they're fat, ugly, underage and male

No. 87407

>>87383
Its funny seeing how normal the unpopular opinions thread has become in barely 24 hours

No. 87408

Things already seem better. This was the right move

No. 87410

>>87357
Agree with this. It is annoying to have to keep turning VPN off just to reply, especially in fairly dead hobby threads. I can understand the use in the problem threads, like a VPN ban genuinely makes amerifag threads better, but having it on the whole site seems a bit much, especially when it is well known which threads attract infighters/baiters.

No. 87413

I really hope vpn-posting does get banned, that would solve raids or cp bots to a greater amount plus the baiting

No. 87415

I like the OP picture you picked, it's cute! Thanks admins, the site already seems so much better and it honestly doesn't seem slower? At least during my timezone. I think making the change permanent is smart, at least on /ot/ if not everywhere

No. 87416

>>87403
If this is the type of anon that the VPN ban gatekeeps, then good riddance. Infighting and samefagging is cringe to anyone who wasn't horribly attention starved as a child

No. 87419

>>87416
They're having a full on meltdown about it on CC. It's funny to watch. These types of posters are the reason so many of us have requested a VPN ban for so long.

No. 87421

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THIS is the type of user you are getting rid of admin when you ban VPNs. If this isn't proof enough that the VPN ban should be permanent to some extent, then I don't know what is. These annoying psycho fags have been ruining lolcow for so long, it's finally useable again.

No. 87422

>>87421
Samefag but they don't respect the site culture, they don't respect the moderation, and all they do is come here to bait and infight. Rest in piss VPNtards.

No. 87424

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I am in no way opposed to the VPN ban entirely but I would like to question why 2X doesn't get any flack. The reasoning is for anon's safety but there's also threads on ot and other boards that could land anons in hot water in their country, will the same safety not be extended to them? I feel like farmhands and Cerbmin show 2X a bit too much favouritism especially when that board does produce problem posters. Hopefully the VPN ban is just for Hellmas and will be dialled back a little to just applying to troublesome threads, I think a blanket VPN ban is just too much to start off with, if the problem continues afterwards then maybe it would be a good solution but as other decisions for the site made by Cerbmin seem to permanent I'd rather this to be taken slowly.

No. 87425

>>87403
I legit don't understand the logic of going to an imageboard to complain about another one. like are you such an immature piece of shit that you legit cannot conduct yourself any other way online? hope the mods there catch on
>>87410
youre clicking a virtual button on your smartphone anon. its not hard.
>>87421
this poor retard clearly want given enough attention as a kid and has no friends lmao vpn ban should be permanent.

No. 87426

>>87425
I think the CC mods are well aware that anons will talk shit about lolcow in the ninth lolcow hate thread and are fine with it

No. 87427

>>87421
This is exactly why the VPN ban should be permanent. There are more of these retards and they're undoubtedly seething just as hard as this faggot is, what a sad existence. I'm genuinely worried about what's going to happen in January when this gets lifted, they'll be back in full force as soon as it's gone

No. 87428

>>87424
Anon, all those threads should be in /2X/. Some of them were but the anons sperged so much about the tranny jannis LITERALLY KILLING THE THREAD by forcing discussion to stay there e.g. ex-muslim, gender ideology hate thread. They dug their own graves. If they want to be safe they can move the threads back to where they belong.

No. 87430

>>87427
OP says if the userbase is in favor they'll consider implementing it permanently. So don't lurk, be open about it!

No. 87432

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>>87421
you cherrypicked a completely insane comment in that thread that people on cc called out. no one agreed with that anon. most anons on that thread are just concerned about privacy, especially after the whole site went down for a month because of an attack. someone also pointed out how the hidden board was given leeway but anons in similar threads (the tif/tim threads) are not.

i was almost convinced by these posts here. i went to look at the cc thread and most anons seem like normal women. there are some completely deranged anons and trolls. it would be nice if it keeps those people out, but they are outnumbered.

No. 87433

>>87432
I honestly don't get why people are so concerned about privacy. Nothing posted on lolcow should violate any laws to begin with, and the only thing that can be leaked is your IP since you don't have to register or give any personal data to use the site. Even if some big leak hypothetically happened, it would just be a random IP address of mine that is tied to nothing incriminating and can't be used to identify me in any significant way. If it's about political shit, then like the previous anon said, all political threads can just be moved to 2X and vpns can be allowed there

No. 87435

>>87433
Tbf not every country is as lax with online free speech as the US, assuming you’re a burger. Personally, I feel like lc has only improved with the VPN ban, but I understand nonnas wanting to /snow/ and certain threads like gender ideology and ex-muslim to permit vpns.

No. 87436

>>87433
First off
>Nothing posted on lolcow should violate any laws to begin
Why have curtains if you're not doing anything illegal in your house?
Second if the entire site gets dumped with IPs tied to posts then you can build a profile.
>Post in vent about your shitty wagey job
Got the job
>Posts between the hours of x and y
Got the general location
>Post in mundane about how the weather is
Got a more specific idea of the location
>More posts linking you to you
With enough time and effort with a full leak then scrotes could find you. Not every nonna is smart enough to do proper opsec.
I'm mixed on the VPN ban. It would increase the quality of posts here but I can see nonnas not being clever enough to hide their tracks, thinking being anon does all the work.

No. 87437

to be honest i only want to post under a vpn because i cannot have all the shit i'm saying tied to just one IP kek i post way too much in too many threads. nothing that gets me in trouble but still. i'm paranoid about the farmhands and don't want them laughing at my post history and referencing something cringe i said 5 days ago or something (i have a feeling they pose as regular anons sometimes). some other anon mentioned this happening to her once in a reply she got. i'm still of the opinion that it should only stay perma for select threads or just /ot/.

No. 87438

How can post histories and Ips be leaked in the first place unless someone on the admin team does it? It hasn't happened for the history of LC as far as I know; the worst thing happened was some images got deleted recently.

No. 87439

>>87436
This. 4chan is fine with having VPN bans because the userbase is so large and that blogposting is discouraged in every board so it would be impossible to pin down who you are. That is not the case with LC where only 500 users post here and 90% of the off topic boards consist of blogging and talking about your personal life. Not to mention that certain anons post their art which is even more identifiable.

No. 87440

>>87438
It's not just admins who can do it, they're the ones who had to kick out some of the farmhands who did it if anything. Ips have been shown by that one farmhand in the 'good moid stories' thread, and the one from the cat hate thread (though that one was slightly censored). there's also one who leaked manifesto-chan's post history in one of the MTFs threads, though not with bad intent.

No. 87441

>>87436
>>87437
I feel the same, and even though I don't break rules here, I have felt targeted by farmhands in the past (over nothing). I had someone ask my nationality out of the blue in a completely random, lighthearted thread and I've never been able to forget that. I'm pretty sure it was someone who could see my IP and was confused about the food I posted. Fucking creepy.

Another time in another lighthearted thread I mentioned a subject I'm an expert in, and someone got weird about it, like "how many people could there be who work on XYZ" - fuck that, I was right to not say anything specific there. More than once I've gotten some ban for a random days-old post just because a farmhand didn't like something I said in /meta/.

There's no accountability for the people who moderate and admin here, and I wouldn't trust any personal details or IPs to be kept private. The apologies and making it right after huge issues ("good moid" thread, movie anon, IP leaking, everyone getting accused of being Blaine) never seem genuine (or never exist). Be safe, nonas.

No. 87442

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The quality of posting is SOSOSO much better. I feel like 90% of the toxic users were VPN users or something, I see so much less unnecessary nastiness. Still some good imageboard culture banter and ribbing etc. but way less flat out toxic "kill yourself dicksucker" type posts. I was close to leaving this site and if it stays like this I genuinely wouldn't want to leave anymore. PLEASE ADMIN KEEP THE BAN

No. 87443

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>>87441
>>87437
I get where you’re coming from, and I don’t necessarily disagree, but in my case, I’ve taken way fewer bans since I stopped using VPNs. I used to feel like farmhands had a vendetta against me, and maybe I did really piss off some farmhand, or maybe they just assumed I was a troll because they couldn’t see my post history. This might sound like a janny shill post, but I legit haven’t taken a retarded ban in a while. However, I do remember the good moid thread incident, so I think the concern is fair. I also feel embarrassed to think that farmhands can go through my post history and witness my occasional spergouts, kek. Oh well, things are so much better now, it’s hard for me to want to go back to VPNs. Maybe if mods just keep the ban for the most cancerous /ot/ threads, that could be a fair compromise.
>>87442
A Hellmas miracle!

No. 87444

>>87443
oh, I don't even use a VPN, I only considered starting after those things happened in the past couple months

No. 87446

I've been posting 10 years without a vpn and have never got doxxed or in trouble with the government. If you're that paranoid don't post

No. 87451

not to bootlick jannies but i've been doxxed once by inceloid trannies, got exposed by a local fat and ugly incel youtuber, got exposed again in a ig page that makes fun of schizoids and i've never had big troubles irl, because people forget as long as it wasn't nudes or an actual crime. same with jannies, they will be laughing at us in their circlejerk, but so what? they'll still have to delete and moderate this shithole for some sad pennies. idc if they see my post history ohhhh so terrible i'm esl and retarded so what? the female socialization got some users on a chokehold

No. 87453

agreeing with the other anons about the noticable difference, i feel like this should be a permanent change

>>87437
i sort of get it, but i think if you feel that way you just shouldn't be posting things you would be embarassed about online. i know it might be a de-stresser or feel indulgent to talk freely and "anonymously" but it's better to be cautious about posting anything online. scrotes and trannies are lurking and if you're worried about what jannies think, they'll always have something to pick on. just don't identify yourself and you should be fine. i feel like being careful/mindful about what you say online regardless of what and where you're posting it is a good practice to have. i always think before i post anything on here, even the most mudane of things

No. 87454

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>>87410
theyre lying to make up an excuse why they don't want to post without a vpn because social media (especially and facebook, google and tik tok product) and damn near every website nowadays is spyware with a pretty filter and marketing over it lmao
no one gives a fuck for these online randos, they just want to keep vpn-shitposting and not have their history neatly tied to one ip address

No. 87458

>>87428
Yes, we should move now established ot and snow threads to a place bjchan and her ilk have free range, sounds like a great idea. I'm just saying that you can't say you care about anon's safety and then not care about anon's safety by your own definition, why not VPN ban 2X too if safety doesn't matter?

No. 87459

I finally don't want to close the /ot/ tab 2 minutes after looking at the first page. Thank you for this merry hellmas.

No. 87460

Anons are obviously baiting for an infight in the unpopular opinions thread, unwarranted hostile replies. Please ban.

No. 87461

>>87460
literally just don't take the bait? it's so obvious

No. 87462

>>87461
I'm not? I'm alerting mods to ban the baiters.

No. 87465

>>87454
nta well i'm not lying. i don't use social media either for the same reasons.

No. 87469

I'm genuinely upset since I can't browse lolcow without VPN, it's blocked here.

No. 87478

>>87469
In the countries that we are aware of that block lolcow.farm, they have not blocked farmcow.lol. In order to flip the site the correct way, depending on your browser, you can either apply an override style or install an extension that lets you do so. The style you want to apply is "transform: none;" on the body element. If you are having trouble figuring out how to do this please email admin@lolcow.farm and we'll assist you.

No. 87479

>>87465
don't worry, while social media is very aggressive with data mining their users, youre still within google's grasp.

No. 87497

>>87469
I’d like to keep using vpns because I’m on a uni campus lol. Not for privacy against the site, but for the ISP…

No. 87511

the entire website has been so much more chill and overall had a happier vibe over the last few days so far and i have to admit that a VPN ban has been so beneficial for everyone but i still love having the ability to use LC with one on

No. 87515

>>87442
Honestly, I think the reasoning has to be that trolls don’t have a VPN to hide behind their shit and could actually face repercussions. Although I think LC has been a lot more productive with the ban, i dont think it’s for the best. VPN bans worked with 4chan because boards are permanently knocked off a board and deleted once it goes inactive so it becomes almost impossible for someone to see what was said before hand, and millions of people go in there. Meanwhile, LC doesn’t have anywhere near as many users, which makes tracking down things easier. I usually post with a VPN because if you frequent any of the troon threads and post on there, it feels like a matter of time before some crazy tranny attempts to do shit, although I doubt that’ll happen soon. Merry Hellmas nonnies!

No. 87517

>>87441
>movie anon,
The moovie night thread incident still puzzles me. That anon wasn't even using the same IP as the spammer yet the whole thread still managed to get accidentally deleted? And after the thread was restored, she was still permabanned (from what she said in one of the moovie chats and on CC)

No. 87518

>>87515
Yeah, I want to hide my troon hate from my ISP so I'm not on some hatelist, not hop VPN countries to slip past an infighting ban. There may be shitty VPN users, but there's also valid reasons to use VPNs.

No. 87536

should "fujocoom" outside designated theeds also be banned

No. 87541

>>87511
This might also be due to the fact everyone here is now perma horny for sexy Weegee the CEO annihilator

No. 87543

>>87511
I am in full support of a permanent vpn and nothing is gonna change my mind. the vpn ban practically killed off the mind numbing immaturity and ignorant opinions spread as fact and allow discourse to continue.
>>87515
>could actually face repercussions
lol how anon, i think people are taking lc a bit too seriously. unless youre in a country with a track record of tracking people via their ip address what are you talking about, and even then its important people journalists who are targeted. hell this isnt south korea where online bullying is so extreme the police track you down via your ip address. lc and its inhabitants are not important in the grand scheme of things.

No. 87546

>>87543
Ok fed, like the UK police isn't talking to people about their anti-troon facebook posts, knocking on doors.

No. 87547

>>87546
That only happens when the posts are reported BY troons, Facebook accs are tied to a name/picture and Facebook co-operates with the cops too. One of the admins seems to be British based on her spelling/giving times in GMT so if the owner of this website is safe you need to calm down. Plus UK hates troons they just banned puberty blockers, they call it TERF island for a reason.

No. 87551

>>87543
NTA but if there was no danger in posting that kind of thing, why is the hidden board protected? You can post topics from the hidden board outside of it at this current point, so either all posts and threads about troons, being crypto or ex-gendie, PP style/man hating posts, pickmes, etc. should be moved and directed there (like how BP posts are redirected there) to protect posters or there's no danger and the board should also cop the ban.

No. 87561

>>87441
Yeah, agree. A lot of anons have forgotten or are not aware that Lolcow, during the reign of its male admin, was literally a honey pot to gather IP addresses of the people talking shit about the cows he was simping for, namely shoeonhead whom he handed the IPs of the people posting in her thread. It's the main reason I don't want to use Lolcow without a VPN, not to dodge bans or the authorities.

No. 87565

>>87561
So much this. There's three reasons a permanent VPN ban will make this place deader than CC.
One, like you said, people use VPNs to protect themselves from doxxing. We know that feds are here, and there is a history of farmhands handing over our information.
Two, many women use the VPNs while at work (even on their personal cellphones which uses the work wifi) to stop their work from tracking exactly what they're doing. If VPN is banned, those women will only be able to post in a small window after work. So you won't have the flow of conversation and people replying to little things throughout the day, you'll have one or two occasional posts once a day. This stops conversation and discourages people from bothering to post since they're not going to get any type of response.
And three, one of the farmhands is racist and the other farmhands are doing nothing about it. This farmhand never does anything about it when the pol trolls come on here and tell white women to kill themselves and post racist memes, yet if you so much as say an Indian male is a rapist (in the news thread with proof of your accusations) that's an immediate ban from her. So honestly, people should be able to avoid her racist temper tantrum bans because none of the other mods are reining her in and she's not being even handed.

No. 87566

Keep the VPN ban and just move the political threads to /2X/ and remove the VPN ban there. This place is miles better and yeah some people use VPNs legitimately but is that small number of users really worth all the moderation work, heavy infighting, psychotic baiting, and shitposting?

No. 87567

>>87566
samefag but maybe if you do it that way you should unhide /2X/ on the catalog so its not so dead

No. 87568

>>87566
the vpn ban is already removed there. it isn't worth it tho considering one of the worst personalityfags from there ban evades nonstop, it should only be let go for the more relaxed boards

No. 87569

>>87568
She likely won't come back, she said she wanted be a mother on another platform, so no more sperging about dicks I guess

No. 87570

>>87569
Nta but bj-chan wants to be a mom? Top fucking kek why???

No. 87571

>>87565
Post proof that the mods have ever given details to the feds instead of just pulling that accusation out of your ass.

And saying a permanent VPN will kill the site is BS, it's doing just fine rn and December is usually a slow time of year

No. 87574

>>87565
what if just the most common free vpns were banned and paid vpns were allowed? trolls would be unable to bait freely unless they were willing to take a hit in the wallet which most won't

No. 87577

>>87570
Have you considered not believing everything you read online

No. 87578

>>87517
well, it probably wasn't an accident, for starters

No. 87579

>>87578
why would they intentionally delete it just to have to restore it?

No. 87580

>>87571
Nta, I know that they report stuff about people who are posting illegal shit like cp, maybe anon means that?

No. 87581

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No. 87582

>>87436
Seeing how fast Yuripedo was doxed by farmers based only on her typing style and a few small details she had slipped during her personalityfagging spergouts, I'm only imagining what an unhinged farmhand would do after getting her hands on the IP range of a poster. I'm still thinking about the one farmhand who gathered up ALL of that manifesto-chan's posts in a masterpost and the other one who posted the IP of someone she had accused of samefagging over a literal nothingburger issue, there are no checks and balances regarding the moderation and we don't even know if the admin is a woman or not. Even during shaymin's era iirc her boyfriend was basically running the place because she had no competence with websites and only wanted to have her shayfagging platform. People should be more aware and critical of what could happen instead of going all out demanding VPN bans.

No. 87585

>>87582
Agreed, the farmhands can be just as petty and vindictive as the userbase on here. I don't trust any of you bitches with my data.

No. 87586

everyone ITT posting about how they wouldn't use the site if the VPN ban stayed… but you're posting without a VPN right now… just say you want to be able to freely shit upo the site. I see your posts on CC. the fact that the VPN ban made infighting basically stop existing despite /ot/ still moving nicely tells me everything

No. 87587

>>87403
lol these 'people' are unreal
Hope it's permanent

No. 87592

>>87586
For me it's the fact that Unpopular Opinions isn't moving a mile a minute. I think last week it went through 4 threads in one weekend.
>>87587
They are. It's kind of funny to laugh at them. I think it's starting to dawn on them that they lost their bait and infight platform, because their posts keep getting more desperate.

No. 87597

KEEP THE VPN BAN! MODS AND JANNIES AND CERBMIN PLEASE KEEP THE VPN BAN!!!

No. 87599

>>87577
if anons realized that, that alone would kill off half the traffic of this site

No. 87608

>>87597
agreed please keep the VPN ban, it's been overall a better experience since, celebricows has been so much slower (as it should be), and unpopular opinions isn't perpetually on the first page of /ot/ (was shocked to see it on the third page)

No. 87610

>>87597
seconding this, and reminding nonnas to make your voice heard if you agree since farmhands want to see majority support

No. 87612

>>87568
this alone is reason enough to keep it. ive noticed at least 2-3 of the worst posters here are gone now.

No. 87615

>>87565
Farmhands are not admin. Every single ib admin will give out information to the feds if someone is posting illegal stuff.
>If VPN is banned, those women will only be able to post in a small window after work. So you won't have the flow of conversation and people replying to little things throughout the day, you'll have one or two occasional posts once a day. This stops conversation and discourages people from bothering to post since they're not going to get any type of response.
I genuinely don't see the problem with that. There were years this used to be a very slow ib. More replies doesn't mean a quality conversation.

No. 87617

>/ot/ is a usable
>amerifag thread is having normal discussion
>unpopular opinions is being used as intended
>the infighting cosplay schizos in get it off your chest are gone
>even the animal hate threads aren't facebook spam and actually have discussion
please keep the ban please admin

No. 87618

>>87617
>amerifag thread is having normal discussion
>the infighting cosplay schizos in get it off your chest are gone
guess you haven't seen the recent posts today kek

No. 87622

>>87618
cosplayers are gone mostly and started laying low after their faces got posted, they don’t want to post off a vpn after they got called out. it’s a different schizo thinking someone named v and c are in there talking to her about their husbands or something responding to everyone and being annoying.

No. 87623

>>87618
the amerifag thread looks like it got cleaned up quickly so that's good. the schizos are new ones as >>87622 said

No. 87624

>>87597
Thirding this. However, perhaps cerbmin should allow VPNs for cow boards.

No. 87626

>>87624
It should stay permanent for /w/ though, it's a shithole there. I'm gonna keep rallying for /g/ and /m/ to allow vpns until I die because my de/g/en and art sisters did nothing wrong, 99% of infights are everywhere else.

No. 87627

>>87622
>their faces posted
I usually scroll past or hide that thread, what the hell went down? I thought no one can reply to each other in it

No. 87630

>>87627
they got around that by not directly reply and just referencing eachother

No. 87631

>>87565
>If VPN is banned, those women will only be able to post in a small window after work. So you won't have the flow of conversation and people replying to little things throughout the day, you'll have one or two occasional posts once a day.
anon. holy fuck thats a normal way of posting and you have a problem with it. you need to find something to eat up your time than this board.

No. 87633

Is the longer flood detection timeout part of hellmas?
If it's a permanent thing you might want to change the message stating it's just 30s.

No. 87634

>>87631
this.

No. 87646

>>87634
Being back slowcow the site moves too fast now if anything

No. 87651

>>87631
Go back to letters then, the rest of us will stay in 2024. When I talk to someone on the internet, I don't want to have to wait three to five business days before I get a response to what they think about Rebecca Sugar's newest tweet.

No. 87652

>>87651
honey. discord exists. other social media playforms exist. texting friends or being alert of a "community" exists. please for the love of god use them and stop throwing a tantrum on an imageboard, its embarrassing. youre not being deprived of anything, youre just being entitled and getting mad when its not catered to your "needs".
I feel like the real cows on lc are anons like these. theyre amusing for a bit, but then it becomes pathetic.

No. 87658

>>87652
Discord?? Go back
>>87651
People shouldn't be posting at work, they should be working. It's just a few hours. Get a hobby. Maybe you could knit and liven up the knitting thread? Please say yes

No. 87681

why allow this thread especially during hellmas? >>>/m/440644 I know you redtexted it as a shit thread (rightfully) but it also clearly doesn't belong on /m/ unless you're considering making /m/ an imagedump board

No. 87684

>>87681
Remember when they mentioned they’d consider creating /img/ for image dumps?

No. 87696

I don’t use VPNs but I do not think they should be permabanned. Or find a happy medium and only permaban the free VPNs. Definitely don’t think they should all be banned. I don’t think the posting quality is “zomg so much better” all of a sudden now that they’re banned and truly don’t know what planet those posters live on.

No. 87697

I personally love the VPN ban pls keep

No. 87701

>>87696
ban the free vpns kek how the hell are the mods gonna differentiate them. nah keep the vpn ban permanent.

No. 87702


No. 87705

>>87701
There are blacklists online with common VPN IP addresses, it wouldn't hurt to use them

No. 87717

cerbmin if you are reading this thread I hope you consider making the vpn ban permanent. there are still a few lingering unintegrated retards and baiters here and there (for example the skirby thread and most of /w/ is as shit as ever despite the ban kek) but overall there's a noticeable improvement especially on the non-cow boards. /ot/ in particular seems to have less infighting and less bait which is a nice change.

No. 87724

Writing pooner should be a bannable offence

No. 87725

>>87617
They should ban vpns in /ot/, /g/ and /m/ and allow it on the cow boards

No. 87727

>>87725
Other way around, the cow boards absolutely need it and still have problems like /w/ and /snow/. Most of the off topic boards (except /ot/ and /2X/) are fine even before hellmas. /m/ is known as the chillest board for a reason.

No. 87730


No. 87735

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I'm sorry I'm such a trouble maker. But I'm also very helpful! You have to admit this. Look at all the images I helped recover, look at all the threads I started, look at that other thing I did that I can't mention because it identifies my alias but undeniably had a positive impact on the site! Look at the 4 banners anons have made of my memes and gifs, that's something, right? See, I'm not that bad! Give me another chance, unban my home IP address pwease. I will make a sincere effort to be better. Also it's Christmas.

No. 87749

>>87727
Some anons don’t want to post on cow boards without VPNs thought. I agree that only /ot/ really needs the VPN ban out of the off topic boards

No. 87755

i am torn on the vpn ban because on the one hand we have annoying personalityfags using them to ban evade, but getting rid of them does nothing for annoying twitterfags whose only knowledge of vpns is nord. i do think it's a net positive though because ban evading is a problem and your IP address doesn't have nearly enough info to dox you, especially on an anonymous site.

No. 87764

>>87749
>Some anons don’t want to post on cow boards without VPNs though
why is that our problem though

No. 87770

I just tried to post from a new phone for the first time and got banned for ban evasion? Does this have anything to do with that? I'm not using a vpn

No. 87779

>>87735
This is the best Christmas ever, I love you cerbmin and team

No. 87835

Merry Christmas eve to cerbmin and co ♥ thank you so much for your hard work and constant attention, this Hellmas idea was really good and been very effective for the websites mood

No. 87841

it'll take my ban but i'm sorry i deleted and reposted a post for what felt like 45 times i'm just a retard

Merry Xmas

No. 87872

Having to bunker in that accursed CC thread made me realize even more that the VPN is necessary and should not be turned off (at least on off-topic boards). The foul and smelly VPNtards that live on CC ever since the ninth of December are evil and most likely they are nasty transvestites as well. They are remind me of Francoist Spain. Please KEEP THE VPN BAN!!!! (at least on off-topic boards)!!!

No. 87876

>>87872
This, farmhands please leave the vpn ban on the /ot/ boards, it was more than necessary

No. 87877

>>87872
ips don't reveal important information especially about literal nobodies.

No. 87878

>>87872
i really feel and agree with this; their behavior over there proves that they don’t belong here, and infighting has decreased significantly since the VPN excommunication. threads like stupid questions, amerifags, and unpopular opinions used to fill up within a matter of hours and now /ot/ across the board is getting more relaxed

No. 87888

I'm against the ban because some of us live in bad countries, or we're probably the only posters here living in certain countries and it doesn't feel right to be identified every time.
I also don't agree that infighting has decreased, but that's just my opinion. I know that the infighting spergs will probably just get range bans, but I feel kind of bad for anons who will likely be affected by that just for living around the same area.

No. 87892

>>87876
>>87872
>CC thread mostly peaceful during vpn ban
>LC goes down for an hour
>becomes total shit for 900 replies
Yeah it's definitely the 13% of vpn posters causing a problem.

No. 87895

>>87888
Unironically this I dont mind keeping the VPN ban on known infight or bait heavy threads but some threads need the VPN for the safety of the posters theremy country is literally making anything a bit too critical of a certain religion a FUCKING DEATH SENTENCE and I want to post in a certain thread without fearing my life could get fucked over because of it

No. 87899

>>87895
Anon you can literally still post with a vpn.

No. 87901

please keep the vpn ban. its been weeks and the retards at CC have fully shown how utterly miserable they are no matter where they are. they have not bothered integrating at CC and no nothing but whine.

No. 87904

>>87901
You mean the luigifags who raided cc because they’re retarded newfags who don’t understand how often moids raid female ibs? Ok

No. 87905

>>87901
One hundred percent agree. The CC thread is all the proof someone needs to realize that the VPN ban is the best thing for this website. Maybe take it off for the cow boards, but we need a VPN ban for the off-topic boards. I've been loving LC this whole month because bait has gone down at least 80%. Ban evasion was the worst feature of this site.

No. 87906

>>87901
Seconding, lolcow has been less painful to use. I think certain threads like ex-muslim, some 2x threads, and the milk boards can lose the vpn, but ot has been so pleasant.

No. 87908

>>87905
The cow boards need to keep the VPN ban. The entire imageboard should keep the VPN ban imo, but if there's going to be a compromise at the very least it should be those boards and off topic.

No. 87909

>>87905
Theres so many less aggro replies and the baiters and schizos all left

No. 87910

>>87909
All the schizos and baiters live on CC now. It's like we're one big happy family here now and it's way better this way. Bans should mean something. That's really the main thing. It's crazy that only a month ago you could get banned, and in 2 seconds with one button click suddenly you're not anymore. The VPN ban just gave power back to the moderators.

No. 87911

>>87403
>>87421
Anons like the ones in those pictures are the reason the VPN ban needs to be permanent. There are dozens of losers like those anons that spent the entire year shitting up our site with their bullshit. I regularly posted with a VPN when it was allowed, and I'm glad to post without one if it means that those freaks can't use one.

No. 87914

>>87910
The CC thread only went to shit once LC went down and you all flooded the place. Don't place the blame on VPN users, glass houses, mote in your own eye, etc. The shelter thread in the other bunker had no such issues and never has because newfags don't know about it.

No. 87915

>>87914
Just stay there then.

No. 87917

>>87914
The shelter thread on the other bunker also bans VPNs. It's like the spergs with VPNs fuck up threads. It's like banning VPNs prevents threads from being shit up. I guess I forgot my Abilify today for noticing these patterns.

No. 87918

>>87906
>some 2x threads, and the milk boards can lose the vpn
I feel like anons saying this haven't seen the state of the blackpill thread and every /w/ thread kek. Keep the bans there or else you know who will start leaking again

No. 87920

>>87917
>The shelter thread on the other bunker also bans VPNs.
NTA, but this isn't entirely true. Certain IP ranges are banned, but it's not anti-VPN as a whole. The admin of that site even recommends just using a new VPN if you attempt to post with one and get blocked.

No. 87921

>>87920
>>87917
Yeah, my vpn still works there. There's no outright ban. It's just a lack of newfags. The problem isn't VPNs, it's probably just newfags copping bans that's making hellmas nicer, just like any other hellweek.

No. 87948

given that Hellmas is gonna be over in 2 days, i just want to ask, are we gonna keep the VPN ban going? i wouldn’t say all of us, but a pretty hefty majority of anons who still have the ability to post here with our VPN's turned off seem to have come to an agreeance that we should leave it in the past. yes, there are definitely still spergs and infighting still has happened since the 14th, but the neighborhood is overall better when we don’t have the troons and ban evading psychos here to demolish our vibes

No. 87958

>>87905
>>87872
I didn't go there for the last bunker but I'm reading the threads right now as well as previous hate threads, the hate threads were mostly ok until lc went down a few days ago
You went to another site where people feel free to criticize this site and then started retarded arguments with them as if you owned the place, it's no wonder that those threads went to shit as soon as you turned them into your bunker, it's like you learned nothing from the times you were kicked out of other imageboards
Btw I don't think the site is as infight free as you like to claim, you can't really stop newfags that come from social media who don't care or know about VPNs from being retarded and shitting up threads, most importantly though the bp schizo is still on the loose

No. 87963

>>87958
>You went to another site where people feel free to criticize this site and then started retarded arguments with them as if you owned the place
I didn't post on the CC threads. I was talking about all the posts on there like >>87403 and >>87421 and all the other ones talking about how as soon as the VPN ends they're gonna come back to bait and infight.
>you can't really stop newfags that come from social media who don't care or know about VPNs from being retarded and shitting up thread
Yes, you can. You can stop them by banning them. Bans need to be effective to actually work, so that's why the VPN ban is so useful.
>it's like you learned nothing from the times you were kicked out of other imageboards
???

I don't know why the pro-VPN group is so vocal, earlier in the year there were stats that showed less than 15% of all posts were made through a VPN.

No. 87972

>>87963
NTA and that's the very low minority that's obviously trying to shit stir, you also don't even know if that's a farmer. Honestly I don't mind VPN bans in problem areas, but I'd rather see how far that works for a little while before considering a full blanket ban because these results we've gotten could be majorly helped by the fact that there's heavier moderation as per hell week. I don't know, I don't really want us all jump to that immediately when we don't even know how effective this will be long term.

No. 87973

>>87972
I agree, the VPNtards are a very low minority that obviously try to stir shit.

No. 87974

can we please keep the vpn ban, like for a news resolution thing we keep the ban

No. 87979

>>87973
You can see other anons disagreeing with those posters in that thread. I'm not going to be affected by this but it would suck if it didn't even end up working half effectively in the long term and became a permanent change. 13% is a small number but if most of that 13% were just using VPNs to bait we'd see far, far more of it on top of roaming schizos like that BP sperg from a few days ago.

No. 87981

>>87979
It wasn't 13% of posters, it was 13% of posts. So, if there was 100 posts made in an hour, then 13 of those would have been made through a VPN. It's really not a big deal that major VPN services are banned, who cares if 13/100 posts can't be posted? Anecdotally, I've noticed a big decrease in the amount of baiting and infighting, especially on /ot/, since the VPN ban started and that's effective enough for me. If they wanna remove the VPN ban, it should only be removed from cow-boards, since such few bait is posted on them and infights are less common too.

>roaming schizos like that BP sperg from a few days ago.

You must be real new if you don't know who BJchan is.

No. 87983

>>87981
Thank you for the correction, I still stand by that we should just see if anything improves after hell week just so we get a good grasp on how useful this would be. If it's successful even with regular moderation and problems continue outside of vpn banned threads I'm all for blanket banning non-cow boards.
Also I know who bjchan is, I meant the anon who shat up unpopular opinions and the vent thread. I don't know if that was her because that anon's posts came off differently to how bjchan usually types.

No. 87987

>>87974
>news resolution
What? Why are there so many illiterate posters lately? You know which ones I'm talking about, the ones that can't event finish their sentences out of sheer laziness. I've also seen posters say "VPN" instead of "VPN ban" so when they advocate for the ban it sounds like they're supporting the use of VPNs instead

No. 87989

>>87963
That one retard in the CC thread got shat on by a lot of the other VPN posters in that thread, I saw the replies myself
>Yes, you can. You can stop them by banning them
Mods must be doing a poor job then because this place is full of newfags lately, newfags who don't even know how imageboards work, much less about the culture. I'm not the only one who has noticed this
Those posters can't be stopped just by banning VPNs because they come from TT and are tech illiterate, the worst part is that anons keep spoonfeeding those retards instead of bullying them until they lurk moar and integrate

No. 87991

>>87989
You're right, before December 2024 there was never newfags. I've noticed this all month, that there are now newfags, and I never noticed that before unless I was infighting and needed an insult to use. I blame the moderators and the administrators of this website for allowing newfags to find and use the website. Before entering the site, we should all have to input a specific alphanumeric code unique to each poster, that way we can be sure that newfags can't access the site. We should also create some sort of nickname for each anon that's tied to the first time they posted, that way we can be sure of who is who and to make sure that they aren't newfags. Maybe we could implement specific image files that would display beside each user's unique nickname too, so that we have a visual representation of them and so we can make sure we identify them from the newfags. We should also change the URL of the website every 16 hours so that newfags can't find the site. I've already contacted the consulate for the People's Republic of China in a city nearby to demand that Premier Xi Jinping ban all mentions of Lolcow.Farm from TikTok, I have written over 200 letters to the ambassador threatening extrajudicial actions unless the Chinese Communist Party heeds my demands, as they are the ones that send newfags to infect and destroy our website.

No. 87994

I personally like the quiet of VPNs on the site. The cow threads force users to post milk and it's probably far easier to moderate. The only downside is that anons are worried about not being anonymous to the team since IPs have been maliciously mishandled before. I don't think that's happened under new admid so far and she's also said that it wouldn't. She can't control individual farmhands though is the problem, so who knows if some rouge will flip out again. I know moderating a massive site like this can be a nightmare, I've moderated on a separate imageboard before and it's a pain in the ass sometimes.

I feel like with a VPN ban it would be easier to prevent sperging and stop a lot of shitposting. My only other argument is that with increased availability to having VPNs and due to the state of the internet in general, it IS important for farmers to feel safe while using the site and VPNs are a safe way to browse.

No. 87998

>>87994
>I don't think that's happened under new admid so far and she's also said that it wouldn't.
It happened earlier this year
>>84869

No. 87999

>>87994
IPs don't even reveal enough information to worry over. especially on a site where we share absolutely no identifying information about ourselves. In fact we are sharing more information by posting our discord names on friend finders which are publicly accessible by anyone.

No. 88003

>>87991
The point is that there is an influx of newfags that refuse to integrate whatsoever. The problem is further exacerbated by anons that coddle them and spoon-feed them information about the site.

No. 88010

I wish for the VPN ban to stay please. I like the way my containment thread is now and would rather not have to see shit being flinged around in there 24/7.

No. 88013

the removal of the VPN ban and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

No. 88014

>>88013
Don't use the past tense, you frightened me and I had to check to make sure it wasn't gone. Thank God in Heaven that it's still here. PLEASE keep the VPN ban FOREVER for the off-topic boards. If not just to make the trannies on CC mald harder.

No. 88017

>>87999
hmm perhaps some anons talk way too much about themselves theyre worried that can reveal much more when paired with their IP address? idk pulling a wild guess out of my ass because its clear these anons have no idea how the internet works and zero understanding of internet privacy because theyre were never raised on that, and its not our fault if they choose to blog (which is already against the rules)

No. 88018

>>88017
This. It's like that time that one Northern Irish retard with gauged ears decided to incessantly blogpost and upload pictures of herself, and when she got called out for being recognizable she decided that it was the farmhands' fault and that there was some sort of admin-approved psyop to doxx her instead of just admitting she was stupid.

LC really isn't the place to share super secret personal information about yourself. /OT/fags struggle with this concept because they like to pretend LC is an edgy alternative social media platform. Even if farmhands don't have an anon's IP, they can still trace post history by looking at device type, typing quirks, EXIF data from files, & frequented threads. This idea that the farmhands actually care about identifying certain posters and keeping tabs on them is egoistic and paranoid.

No. 88020

>>88017
>hmm perhaps some anons talk way too much about themselves
They do. The only thing an IP address reveals is your vauge, general location and maybe your ISP (which depending on where you live could be the only ISP in your area anyways). You would only use a VPN because you either want to make it look like you are from somewhere else (ban evading), or to hide your internet traffic from your ISP because you are doing something illegal (which is unnecessary until we get the first "lolcow shooter", kek).

You cannot get doxxed from an IP address. Unless you are posting identifying information (pictures, usernames, emails, etc), it is literally impossible for a user to find you on the internet, and you can do that VPN or not.

Also most VPNs (including paid ones) steal and sell your data anyways, with your e-mail and billing information included.

No. 88021

>>88017
I made the og post, I think is shouldn't be a thing except in certain threads. Being allowed as much internet privacy as possible is important. It's not about being paranoid, it's just basic safety. We have tools at our disposal, as women, to take as much precaution as possible online compared to just telling people "don't out yourself". I like the quiet and less spam in threads I frequent, but even with it in place it's not like people still can't ip hop around to bypass.

No. 88026

>>88021
this is literally just paranoia. learn what vpns actually do, you won't want to use them anymore after that. there are many replies that explain why ips aren't sensitive info and more sensitive info is shared with and then sold by vpn providers.

No. 88034

>>88026
NTA but not all of us live in places that are okay with a site like LC, so I'd prefer having access to a VPN. As it is now, I can't vent about my religion or other things going on freely. Even if you can't have your house address or full name discovered with an IP alone, it's obvious that it's still a layer of privacy gone, and it should be up to each anon how much of themselves they share. I do think the VPN ban might be good for threads that attract baiting, at least at peak hours, but it'd be sad if the whole site became anti-VPN.
>more sensitive info is shared with and then sold by vpn providers.
Don't most apps and sites sell your info anyway? I'd rather a western company do that sort of thing for profit and to sell me more junk than for my government to use the information to penalize me.

No. 88035

>>88034
Your VPN provider will forward your personal data and information to your national government if requested to do so. You shouldn't be posting anything illegal to begin with because it can be dangerous for you.

>As it is now, I can't vent about my religion

There is an Islam Hate thread on the hidden board, where VPN posting is allowed, so you can vent about it freely on there. There's even a general religion venting thread on that board too.

>I do think the VPN ban might be good for threads that attract baiting

The problem is that let's say all the baiting happens in thread X, and then the VPN ban is turned on for that thread, the baiters would just move onto thread Y to bait there. It's why a full blanket VPN ban works best, at least on the off-topic boards.

No. 88036

>>88026
How is it paranoia? Being safe online, anywhere online, isn't paranoia. I even said there should be reasons to keep the ban in certain threads and that I enjoy the quiet the ban gives the boards. I just don't think it should be permanently implemented across the whole site. Admin and farmhands can already tell when someone is IP hopping around and ban evading anyway. They should then use the ban in those specific threads if needed.

No. 88040

Thank you admin and farmhands for this Hellmas, I hope in the next few days you provide us with clarity of the future of vpn banning.
>>88035
The hidden board is a hell scape, why should anon have to vent alongside certain types of posters? And why is it better than other boards to not have a VPN ban when it's so easily accessible, any moid who has been lurking for a while could find it, spam shit in it, vpn hop when banned, rinse and repeat. I'm ambivalent about the VPN ban but pro-VPN arguments are contradictory, you can't have these arguments at the same time;
>VPNs do nothing to protect you, VPNs leak info so they're useless etc.
>Hidden boards NEEDS to have VPN available to protect posters and all political threads should be moved there for the safety of posters

No. 88041

>>88040
>The hidden board is a hell scape, why should anon have to vent alongside certain types of posters?
Well, why should she have the right to vent on here at all? This isn't a religious venting website. It's a gossip forum for internet cows. I provided an alternative option from the vent thread on /ot/, which she can still access while using a VPN. None of the off-topic boards need to be here, they're all just bonus boards at the end of the day. Anons need to stop acting like they possess some inalienable civil right to post on this site.

>any moid who has been lurking for a while could find it, spam shit in it, vpn hop when banned, rinse and repeat.

Yeah, exactly. You just summed up why we need a permanent VPN ban.

No. 88044

>>88041
The cows are all super boring. Without the "bonus" boards this site would die. Or worse, become kf

No. 88051

>>88041
So you have nothing to say about pro-ban arguments being contradictory? I don't think every anon should have the right to post whatever they want, what I'm saying is is that you provided a poor option and for some reason are fine with the very easily accessible hidden board not having a ban, and you used my hypothetical spammer on the hidden board specifically to say we need to have a full permanent ban. But not for that board, which was where my hypothetical was taking place? What is your point? Did you skim my post or are you being obtuse?

No. 88057

LC has been really dead since the VPN ban. Also

>VPN ban effective until January

>mfw its January

No. 88058

>>88057
To me it's just as lively as it always has been before VPN except there's a lack of retarded bait. Also kek it's just a couple hours into January depending on timezone

No. 88059

Cerbmin: I live in the UK and women have and continue to be arresred for expressing gender critical beliefs. Can you enable the ban for those of us in countries with an oppressive government?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/11/13/gender-critical-maya-forstater-hate-crime-investigation/

No. 88060

>>88059
*disable

No. 88062

>>88059
>oppressive government
>police didn’t even do anything about this twitter argument and she got in 0 legitimate trouble
anon kek please get over the vpn ban. it only exists to expel trollers and infighting

No. 88063

>>88059
learn2delete and repost

No. 88066

Thank god it's over. Lolcow is banned in my country (lol) and hellmas came around just as I started to wanna post after being read-only for 7 years. I hope this won't become permanent or at least not in /ot/ or /g/, pls don't take female companionship from us censorshipcucks

No. 88068

>we will make a poll discussing the future of VPN posting
I already know the concern trolls are going to win this one despite them being retarded and trolling…

No. 88069

aw man just keep the vpn ban

No. 88070

The cow boards have been noticeably slower during the VPN ban with some usually active threads being almost dead. Cow board users do have a legitimate use case for VPNs. No one should be browsing shady porn sites and OF archive sites looking for milk with their home IP address, it's common sense and basic opsec.

90% of the moderation issues on LC are /ot/ in origin.
From a previous hellweek
>>>/meta/67909
>The core of this community is (and always has been) discussing and documenting lolcows. This site exists to serve farmers. Part of the reason that board culture has degraded as much as it has is due to the number of posters who are not here for the milk, but instead to use /ot/ and /g/ like a chatroom and without any attempt to integrate or use the site as intended.

I don't see the point in alienating what is already the minority of anons that use the site for it's intended purpose to save /ot/ when /ot/ is the problem.

No. 88071

The ccfags who said they were planning to shit up a certain thread in /g/ are here in full force ever since the vpn ban was disabled. Maybe keep it for that one thread at least, and for /ot/. I wonder if it's the same one who shat up the unconventional thread yesterday since they won't stop sperging about the ugly man psyop. The other anon who said that the psyop threads (along with the fandom threads) attracted newcomers and affects the rest of the site was right kek

No. 88072

>>88071
>no criticizing my favorite ugly man plssssssss!!!!! modssss

No. 88073

>>88072
But what's the point of doing it in the thread directly? It's derailing and won't stop anyone from liking him, at least contain yourself in the correct thread.

No. 88074

>>88073
If only I could mind control people to have them acting and thinking right… what a shame

No. 88075

>>88059
LOL the admin doesn't care. You'll be thrown under the bus with no second thoughts.

No. 88079

>>88074
Imagine being this new to image board culture. Containment threads exist so that the topics you hate have a place to exist without them leaking into normal discussion. You're the idiot in this situation and I'm not even a luigifag, I think he's ugly. Let containment do it's job and don't be a faggot

No. 88081

>>88059
troll. no one gives a fuck about you.

No. 88083

>>88082
holy shit can you live in the real world for once

No. 88084

>>88059
Where do you think Cerbmin lives? Kek

No. 88085

Well, I'm finally here to share my two cents: please don't fucking ban VPNs, for the love of God. I understand disabling them for specific threads because there's a bunch of trolls, I get it, /ot/ is a shithole. But the whole damn site? That's just nuts. I'm not the only anon who lives at a very small country, there are few users in this area and we're easily trackable if we use our real IPs, this issue may apply to several non American/ European countries which is not fair. At least in my case, I live under a dictatorship and almost all sites are blocked, I only can access this place using a vpn, not even mentioning the fact that our government is not the only one that spies on its citizens internet activity trying to catch whoever opposes them, this is not only a problem for ex Muslims.

Also, there has been stances were mods abused their power, tracked an users post story then used it against them later, I don't want these people having access to my or others post story if they cannot be responsible with it. Please reconsider, seriously, whoever wants or needs extra internet security should be able to access it, specially as a woman

No. 88086

>>88057
It's been nice. The cow boards not having dozens of useless posts is so nice. Nothing maxing out for no reason.

No. 88087

>>88057
>LC has been really dead since the VPN ban.
>LC has been really dead in December.
>I wonder why it's been so dead in December.

It's always dead in December. There's an important holiday during this month, students are taking exams, and people are visiting family.

No. 88089

A full boardwide ban is going to significantly decrease the activity on the site as a whole. Forums and imageboards are a dying kind and banning VPNs will be the final blow for a site like lolcow not to sound dramatic kek.

No. 88090

My takeaway from Hellmas is that I haven't seen a significant drop in infighting except in the threads Yuripedo and her Discord mommy usually reside in kek personally because how I see it and as many before me have mentioned, most of the really unintegrated infighting comes from young newfags who treat this site as an edgy social media and they're not tech-savvy enough to use a VPN anyway, they just circumvent the ban by switching devices. Instead of a VPN ban I would really recommend a longer post cooldown such as 7 minutes, that would probably increase the quality of the posts written either way because it would force anons to re-read what they're replying to instead of going straight to sperging with their notoriously poor reading comprehension. My reason for wanting a VPN is simply the site's history as a honeypot and some of the farmhands going rogue in the past since there are absolutely no checks and balances between the staff and the users, but I do understand the side arguing for a permanent VPN ban as well because it enables actual schizos to keep shitting up the board as they please.

No. 88091

>>88089
The slowness just shows lolcows age.

No. 88092

>>88034
This is the new digital dystopia. You can not participate if you want to hide your identity. It truly renders the idea of anonymous imageboards useless.

Tinfoil but social media is now being infiltrated by bots and imageboards are no exception. I'm really suspicious of anons who are sooooo against VPNs and deeming them as useless when they are not.

No. 88093

For the thread where you hold the poll to decide the future of VPN posting, you should really consider to use the VPN block on it. Otherwise it'd be redundant.

No. 88094

>>88093
Dynamic IP users should also be blocked for the same reason, as should phone posters.

No. 88095

>>88092
This is my same thought process. I like the less shitposting and less randomly maxing out threads due to newfags, but I also think being safe online with a VPN is good. I know some nonnas say that it doesn't protect much, but at least throwing your IP in another state or something is a protection regardless. Taking that away from users just seems petty and almost lazy. It's been slow, so what should they do with the farmhand team? Downsize if there is less to moderate? That doesn't seem fair for the people who actually do like moderating lolcow even if it is a pain in the ass at time.


>>88094
>>88093
So block any posting that isn't a verified home IP? No. That's so insane.

No. 88096

>>88094
I don't know if they have the capability to ban mobile posting, but it'd be a good idea.

No. 88097

>>88095
>So block any posting that isn't a verified home IP? No. That's so insane.
If not, it'll just be possible to turn on a VPN and make 100 posts either for or against the issue. It'd be better if the poll was limited to one answer per anon.

No. 88099

>>88097
Oooh, I read that as anon insisting putting that should be on the poll, not that we should use that for the poll.

The google polls are connected to emails. I don't think changing your VPN matters.

No. 88101

>>88099
Oh my bad, I just figured that the poll would be hosted on a thread, not a separate website. I'd actually prefer if it was just a thread on /meta/ where we could post "yes" or "no" or "only on off-topic boards," since I actually don't like having to use a different website to vote in polls.

No. 88103

>>88101
It's going to be like all our other polls like for the lolcow awards. I don't know if you've done those before, but just use a throwaway email. Unless those trolls want to make a bunch of random emails as well as change VPN constantly to vote to bypass whatever admin puts into place, I don't see it being corrupted.

No. 88104

i think a mobile phone posting ban across the board wouldn’t be a great idea, i love being able to use lolcow on my phone when i’m outside my house. a VPN ban feels reasonable

No. 88105

>>88103
>just use a throwaway email
That's actually the reason why I don't think it'd be a good idea. I can make a throwaway in <45 seconds, so if someone wanted to they could just create account after account to skew the poll in whatever favor. So that's why I think it'd be better just to do a VPN-blocked thread to poll.

No. 88106

>>88095
>I know some nonnas say that it doesn't protect much.

These 'nonas' are not very bright. Unless you are one of the mods I cannot imagine caring THAT much about this issue lol. Anonymous imageboards are always going to be a little chaotic and no matter what anyone says, that's partially why people like them. I may get chewed out for this but reading the comments in this thread has made me confident that lolcow.farm has a good number of bots here lol.

No. 88107

>>88105
ntayrt but there are a lot of temporary email websites that generate an email for you immediately

No. 88110

I've been thinking more about this and banning VPNs is insane (and really ironic considering this is an anonymous imageboard lol). Like you do realize that this will prevent women from certain countries to even use lolcow (especially the gc and political threads and boards)? And for what? To decrease the retardation in /ot/ by 4%? While I can't stand the other farms or reddit, there are places where users can migrate if they want to gossip or laugh at troons while maintaining their privacy. Hell, I'll choose gurugossiper over lolcow if I have to jeopardize my privacy.

inb4 vpns don't protect your privacy retard!!!

No. 88112

Do not listen to the screeching retards, we've seen the cc screenshots, we've seen the anons majority support. Admins you have given us a christmas miracle do not ignore our prayers.

No. 88113

>>88110
>there are places where users can migrate if they want to gossip or laugh at troons while maintaining their privacy.
Exactly, if they don't want to post without a VPN, there are a lot of other websites to post on. They don't have to be here.

No. 88114

The retards are back, one glance at ot and you can see the stink lines and flies on every frantic bisperg. I genuinely doubt 90 percent of anons whining about the VPN ban have anything to lose, they're just embarrassed farmhands can see their entire post history. Get a diary if you're so fucking skittish. It's insane how quickly things reverted once the ban was lifted, this fucking sucks.

No. 88115

>>88114
>stink lines
Anon.

No. 88116

The shills and their bots are working hard tonight.

No. 88117

>>88116
KEK seriously, the hellmas thread on /ot/ is having a meltdown

No. 88118

>>88113
So the end goal here is to decrease the user base kek. Got it.

No. 88121

>>88114
VPN users also develop a post history because post history is tied to IP address. Some of you are offering opinions without even knowing how VPNs or image boards work.

No. 88122

>>88110
most of the shitposters and schizos on the site are from countries that need to use vpns to access the site.

No. 88123

>>88121
As if VPN users can't easily bypass this by deleting cookies. Do you yourself know how things work?

No. 88124

>>88114
It's so funny because it's exactly what we expected to happen.

>>88118
>13% of posts made within two week period were made through a VPN
Ohhh noooooo… the site being 13% slower, nooooooo, the horror nooooo.

No. 88126

>>88123
Post history is not tied to cookies, it's tied to IP address. Even if someone deletes their cookies, their post history will still be associated with that IP.

No. 88127

>>88126
No shit, I'm talking about in the context of using a VPN. If I change the location and delete the cookies or change browser, my post history will be gone.

No. 88128

>>88127
>my post history will be gone.
No it won't because your post history is stored on LC servers and not locally.

No. 88129

>>88121
No shit, that's why it's a moot point. You're traceable to some extent regardless of what method you use, that's exactly why anons arguing against the VPN ban are so retarded. They're screeching over a placebo.

No. 88130

>>88129
Most VPN users on LC aren't concerned about their post history here or what the moderation can see, it's an avoidance of government censorship. Depending on the protocol used a VPN can be entirely encrypted which means that internet traffic is not viewable to ISPs.

No. 88132

>>88128
nta but i think she meant her post history will be detached from her next posts im just spitballing though

No. 88136

>>88130
>Government censorship
This is an imageboard where women talk shit about trannies and fat women.

No. 88137

>>88136
Actually according to the baiters this is actually a fascist dictatorship.

No. 88139

>>88132
While possible that doesn't make sense because if they were changing their IP every post, they would need to clear their stored browser data and change IP every time they posted and even then a VPN service will only provide so many IPs so they will eventually make multiple posts under the same IP.

No. 88145

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I live in a country with a junta in charge. parts of the Internet can stop working for a few days or weeks and accessing some thing online requires a vpn. I think there should be an exception made for those of us in 'unstable' countries

No. 88146

Its really funny how chaotic /ot/ is now. I dont think you even need to hold a vote about the ban, VPNtards are putting on a show for us themselves.

No. 88148

>>88146
It seems as usual to me, I don't get it

No. 88149

>>88148
Don't be glib

No. 88151

>>88146
>visit /ot/
>immediately get greeted by unpopular opinions being bumped with unapologetic polfag sperging

No. 88152

>>88146
I'm sympathetic to a few arguments from anti-ban anons, but the thread about hellmas on /ot/ proves the need for a certain amount of VPN restriction. If that's what we can expect with the ban lifted, it should be reinstated in some capacity. Some anons are acting like posting on this site is an international human right and their freedom is being pummeled. It's getting ridiculous.

No. 88153

File: 1735782843976.png (56.68 KB, 1057x145, baiting retard example.png)

>there is nothing wrong with baiting and there never has been
we need to make the vpn permanent.

No. 88154

>>88153
I don't get it. Nobody likes bait. It isn't a normie thing to dislike bait.
>if they don't like how certain conversations are going down
It's ceases to be a conversation if it's bait. Where are these retards migrating from?

No. 88155

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>>88153
There was entire threads filled to the brim of picrel from a few years ago. If anon wants to bait so bad why doesnt she go to literally any other ib

No. 88157

A true sign that the men moderating have become even more lazy and are also incredibly nosy. They want your data and they don't want to moderate. Removing vpn posting from such a small site is pointless and only serves you in sloth and data mining.

No. 88158

>>88145
if youre so fucking scared of your government why the fuck do you post at all. your dumbass is safer lurking since everything, no matter what you do, every single thing you browse online is tied to your phone. you idiots needs to find a better heartwrenching story to bullshit with.

No. 88159

>>88157
ahh yes, they want my data. they want my ip so bad. my ip is so important because i am a genius that every government and secret organization fears and wishes to destroy. i am being watched by everyone at all times, because i am so important. i am the chosen one. they need to know my general location as well as my internet provider because with those things they can hire a professional hit man to assassinate me. i am the most important person every to be born. i am not schizophrenic or paranoid.

No. 88162

>>88157
Proof?

No. 88164

>>88159
This site is ran by kiwifags.

No. 88167

>>88164
yeah, it is. my local psychiatric hospital is run by them too. they gang stalk me and harass me and try to make me take abilify and they call me schizophrenic all because jesus chose me to be the chosen one. thats why i need vpns because if i dont have vpns then the kiwi faggots win

No. 88169

>>88164
Who? Usernames?

No. 88170

>>88169
@null
This site is run by Joshua Moon. You can look him up. It's all on the dark web.

No. 88171

>>88167
You keep being deliberately obtuse and overexaggerative to make the notion sound ridiculous but it's fact.

No. 88173

>>88112
Seconding. Please bring the VPN ban back. Hellmas was wonderful, it was so peaceful without all the ban evading retards flinging their shit around and they're already flooding back in now.

No. 88174

I'm nervous about a poll being used to determine the outcome. Poll rigging is really easy, especially for the types who use vpns to ban evade. Please keep the ban

No. 88175

>>88170
Jesus christ, anon. You bring up this crap every few months. This was years ago. No1currs.

No. 88177

Y'all are unfortunately banned in the country I'm currently in, so I'd prefer no VPN ban, but at the same time I understand why it exists and will probably survive without Shaynaposting

No. 88178

>>88157
vpns literally sell your data

No. 88179

>>88157
With every retarded post you make like this, you'll just convince more nonnas to vote for the ban.

No. 88181

the sheer amount of retardation were witnessing should be a sign we need the vpn ban.

No. 88183

>>88170
Anon there has never been one shred of proof this site is run by null and the last admin was a BPDfag who got baited into posting her arm and she was definitely female and she wasn't even white. I wish farmhands would ban the schizos that insist on repeating this

No. 88185

>>88158
>you idiots needs to find a better heartwrenching story to bullshit with
You don't gotta be such a cunt to that anon, I know you think everyone against the ban is a troll, but there are anons whose countries block access to internet and VPNs cover their tracks, retard
>>88179
>>88183
nta you all cannot even prove all mods are female, yet you call her schizo?

No. 88187

>>88185
it's starting to look a lot like the mods have been infiltrated by hulking troons. Or feds. Or both.

No. 88188

>>88185
>you cannot prove all the mods are female
are you retarded? that's by design. what do you want the mods to do? post their full dox? post hand pics? kek

No. 88189

>>88188
thats what we've been saying this whole time. the stupid JANNIES should post their full name, date of birth, social security number, home phone number and cell phone number as well as fax number, then they should post 8 photographs of themselves, as well as voice recordings, and then upload a full scan of their thumb prints and their dental records. this is the ONLY way to ensure that the jannies aren't all Joshua Moon. of course they wont do this because there obviously TRANNY JANNIES! you call us schizo??? your a fucking RETARD if you dont want what we want.

No. 88192

>>88187
3 years. 3 years anons have said this with newmin with no verifiable proof or truth to it.

No. 88193

>>88185
oh no I hurt some anons's fee fees? if you cant handle a comment I don't know how youre even on the internet to begin with. are you special enough to noticed by your government that your browsing an imageboard, or are you are just too damn egoistical and/or mental? because if your government is that oppressive, they can easily contact your ISP no matter what you do. Find a better hill to die on.
>>88189
cant tell if troll or crazy

No. 88194

>>88193
it's sarcasm/a joke, nona

No. 88195

Keep the ban on the off topic boards I'm tired of reading so much race bait and mansplaining

No. 88197

>>88195
Agreed.

No. 88199

I stopped posting during the VPN bans which was disappointing because I've used this site for several years now. It's the only place I like where I can anonymously discuss topics with relatively similarly minded women. Paid VPNs are increasingly being banned all over the internet. Several mainstream websites won't load without an account such as Reddit and YouTube because they want to harvest as much data from me to sell and send to government agencies. I use private front-ends as often as possible but they keep getting blocked. They claim it's for "protection" but the amount of AI-generated information I see on those sites are insane.
I agree with banning public IPs from posting. I don't understand why the site is completely blocked on TOR. This site is starting to glow, it's disappointing. But I guess this was originally founded as Shuwu's honeypot shouldn't have expected more.

No. 88200

Keep the ban!

No. 88201

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The admin is malicious and two-faced, yet some of you still whiteknight that person. Talk about pathetic.

The decision on VPN banning has already been made, but the admin wants to appear as the 'good guy', so goes through the motions of a democratic process. It's all smoke and mirrors, a farce. We'll get another Strawpoll (which will be rigged - it's actually not hard with the right VPNs), then a ban.

Here is how it works:
1. Astroturf a non-issue to make it appear like a site-wide problem. (Perhaps even intentionally bait outsiders to shit up LC by posting thread links on soyjak, 4chan, discord groups etc. - just to make your point appear valid.)
2. Data-buying companies want clean products, not marred with VPN IPs or that present inconclusive poster profiles (posters using private windows, agent switchers etc.). 4chan has recently (3 months ago) extended its posting timer to 15 minutes (which can be nullified after you've posted once - but only as long as you haven't deleted the cookies) for the exact same reason. Supposedly it was to target spam. Strange that they applied it to all boards (after trialling it on a select few 'busy' boards), even the niche half-dead ones that were never targets of raids and spam/shitpost campaigns.
3. Fudge the referendum.
4. Profit.

Wake up, LC. You're being taken for a ride.

No. 88202

>>88201
>mansplaining

No. 88203

>>88202
Scrotefoiling is a banable offence.

No. 88204

>>88203
Oh no!

No. 88205

>>88201
Nah you just being a little schizo here. The first paragraph is right but the rest is a little odd.

No. 88206

>>88201
cringe

No. 88207

>>88189
Kekkk. They throw a tantrum and try to guilt the jannies into letting them have their way every time. Wasn't the whole tranny janny/moidmod tinfoil made by he-who-shall-not-be-named to sow confusion and discord among farmers in the first place, and then some spiteful schizo picked it up and ran with it? Any time we try to have some decent moderation around here, it gets some nona's panties in a twist and the accusations abound. I don't much care if we implement a permanent VPN ban or not, with maybe allowances for certain countries or only having it on some boards. Might be nice.

No. 88208

>>88207
I welcome all bans. Keep it up mods.

No. 88209

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Message related keeps popping up and I can't post. Please halp.

No. 88213

Okay how soon are we doing this poll? Because I can't deal with the state of /ot/ right now without VPNs. It's unfair that you gave us a taste of paradise and then ripped it away from us. Please just make the poll so that we can vote. We all know that a permanent VPN ban on the off-topic boards will be what's voted for anyway.

No. 88214

>>88213
I feel like the vpntards are going to bot it tbh, they're deranged enough for that

No. 88215

>>88214
I've seen like pro-ban 400 posts by now. I don't even know why we're doing a poll for it. Just turn VPN ban on for /ot/ and /g/ and everyone is happy.

No. 88217

Haven't really been keeping up with the Hellmas discussion but I'm wondering, could a VPN ban potentially allow the Dumbass Shit thread to be un-autosaged?

No. 88219

I don't care if VPN-posting is banned on the off-topic boards, but they should be allowed on the gossip boards. Most pro-VPN ban users evidently are complaining about trolling on the off-topic boards, but I also suspect that many do not even use the cow boards at all (AKA the namesake for this site and principal reason it exists).

No. 88220

>>88219
Most of us seem to agree with this stance. Cow boards should allow VPNs, maybe even /m/, but the VPN ban should be permanent on /ot/ and select threads (especially lesbian themed threads) on /g/.

No. 88222

>>88220
I agree with cow boards. Stops vendettafagging when someone is changing IPs and hiding replying to themself.

No. 88224

>>88201
Please provide all your proof that lolcow does any of this.

No. 88225

>>88222
Yeah I don't want VPNs on cow boards either, what's the point of permabans if it only takes seconds to get around them?

No. 88226

>>88219
Agreed. I think /m/ is fine but /ot/ and /g/ definitely need the VPN ban, with maybe the muslim and gender crit threads being exempt. Also with the VPN ban, would it be possible for the hidden board to be made public, or maybe even have its threads reintegrated back into /ot/?

No. 88227

/ot/ with no vpn ban just feels like I'm a fish in a sea of bait. What the fuck is happening

No. 88228

>>88226
the last time the hidden board became public it got flooded with retards and was around the time the personalityfags entered it

No. 88229

>>88201
Seethe harder Blaine, maybe now that you can't spam lolcow with cp anymore AND can't shit up threads anymore, you'll finally join the 41%.

No. 88230

>>88157
It's just another confirmation for me that Lolcow mods are tech transbians. They don't want to be laughed at in MtF (or yuricringe) threads, they want to sell your data (why else mod an imageboard for free?), they don't give a shit about the 'community' or lolcow milk, because they don't belong here and never wanted to in the first place. Such is the state of the non-big corpo Internet in 2020s.(terrible bait)

No. 88231

>>88162
Look back at the last few meta threads on this board concering the yuricringe threads getting banned on /ot/ while fujocringe threads are as safe as ever.

No. 88232

>>88231
Retard, the yuricringe thread is alive and well on /m/. Once it stopped just being purely about trannies they let it exist. If they were actually trannies why does the MTF thread exist? Why does the gender ideology hate thread exist? God awful bait, kill yourself asap

No. 88233

>>88232
MTF thread is next for a 'vote' once the no VPN regime is implemented.

No. 88234

I'm legit quitting the site if VPNs get banned. Time to create threads on Kiwi Farms for minor cows I guess. Seems there will be only one lolcow-centric site in the future.

No. 88235

>>88234
Bye anon!

No. 88236

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>>88234
ok bye?

No. 88238

>>88236
>>88235
Nta the VPN ban literally makes milking cows (what this site was actually created for) even more difficult, only /ot/ retards benefit from the ban

No. 88239

>>88193
>>88189
>>88158
These posts are so obtuse and sound so unnecessarily petty, if I didn't know better I'd think it's the damn mods defending their own shitty actions miserably because why can't we distrusts these people at all? You just want us to believe everything they say with 0 evidence?

No. 88243

i really hope that the poll option won’t be a complete ban. There’s so much bait that i feel like a VPN ban in OT could be really beneficial and there was a difference in the amount of bait when the VPN ban was up. but i wouldn’t want to extend it to the other boards that are less affected by bait because security is still a valid concern especially when i imagine anyone mad enough to mess with the site is a bunch of salty moids, and also we have no idea what admins now, or if the admins ever change, future admins are doing with our data just like a bunch of other sites which is a reason why VPN users are VPN users.

No. 88248

>>88243
Yeah I noticed bait got worse at /ot/, but again, it's not needed in the rest of the site and it's even detrimental to some boards (/snow/). /ot/ always sucked and it was bond to become a cesspool anyway

No. 88249

>>88238
Only if you're a cow trying to post in their own thread.

No. 88252

The fact the VPNfags were too retarded to wait until AFTER the vote to start shitting up the site really speaks volumes about their brain capacity kek. If the site hadn't changed after the VPN ban was lifted then there'd be way fewer of us voting for it

No. 88253

The VPN ban didn't stop me from seeing goatse posted in December

No. 88254

>>88238
what do you mean by "milking cows" we don't bait, nor aggravate aka cowtip for milk. it happens and we watch.

No. 88256

>>88254
nta it just means gathering and posting milk from them. which does not require a VPN to do.

No. 88260

>>88256
Not always true, there are some cows who've got IP trackers on their website, so it might be in a farmer's best interest to use a VPN. Plus, it's funny when cows come into their own threads and start sperging out and IP hopping. That's part of why I don't think a VPN ban is necessary—that and cow board users (especially /pt/) are considerably better behaved than /ot/ users, so issues with baiting and infighting are not very common save for a handful of specific cows' threads.

No. 88263

>>88238
That makes zero sense.

No. 88267

>>88260
>Not always true, there are some cows who've got IP trackers on their website,
the only cow I know who does this off the top of my head is Lillee Jean and her psycho absolutely insane retarded mother, whose off the walls lunacy is so well known by even youtubers that youd have to be an idiot to even go to their website, vpn or no.

No. 88268

Christ keep the vpn ban on the off topic boards i am sick of the blatant racism and men posting their shitty takes.

No. 88269

>>88267
>youd have to be an idiot to even go to their website
How do you collect milk without going directly to the source?

No. 88272

>>88260
>>88267
>>88269
… what does lolcow.farm banning vpns have to do with using a vpn to go to lillijean dot net…? u can still use a vpn to gather milk u just cant use one to post on this website? duh?

No. 88286

>>88272
I'm only listing a few reasons some anons might want to use VPNs on the cow boards but there are others of course; it's not the only reason. The point is that only newfag /ot/ spergs care about a VPN ban. The cow boards have gone 10+ years of VPN posting and we've been doing alright. If the /ot/ posters could better behave themselves and not respond to bait then you guys also wouldn't have this issue. I wouldn't be surprised if the average age of off-topic board users was lower than the cow boards.

No. 88287

>>88286
it seems like everyone is already in agreement that the vpn ban should only be put on off topic boards. read the thread lol.

No. 88290

I usually only use the cow boards, just spent 5mins on OT and came off because of how cancerous it’s become. I don't remember there being so much infight baiting in every single thread there with people not even reading what other posters say before responding accusing them of saying the complete opposite. I can see why they need a VPN ban there.

No. 88296

>>88287
I did read the thread. Why not follow the conversation and read the surrounding context to understand why I wrote what I did? It shouldn't be that hard.

No. 88301

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>>88232
NTA, but the thread on /m/ is for anons who are in the yuri fandom to talk about fandom drama and crazy (female) individuals in it. The yuricoomer threads on /ot/ were attempts by a couple of baiters/fujos to shit on yuri fans in general (because they were salty about the fujocoomer thread existing), and those threads were the ones where all they had were screenshots of trannies. They're completely different threads.
>>88112
>>88153
It's interesting how you always "forget" to include all the replies where anons were calling these two posters retarded, and dismiss every pro-VPN post that didn't mention baiting at all. It's a given that some VPN users are going to be trolls and spergs (no shit), just like some non-VPN users are shitposters and baiters too. But that does not represent every VPN user and we're not a hivemind. We have different reasons to use VPNs, one of them being privacy concerns, whether that means ISP/employers snooping, mods and admins stalking our post history, bypassing national bans, potential IP leaks during hacks, general basic opsec, just not liking to be exposed, etc.
Like this anon >>88070 said, most moderation issues originate from /ot/. The ones who want a VPN ban so desperately are, probably, mostly /ot/-only users. A lot of VPN users might be, too. Personally, I couldn't give less fucks about not being able to post on /ot/ anymore since it's a cesspool with or without a VPN ban.

That said, I support these ideas:
>ban VPNs on /ot/ and in select problematic threads on other boards
>>88090
>longer post cooldown

And I agree with >>88085

No. 88303

>>88301
the fact that you're so obsessed with cc is wacky. why constantly post screenshots of it and defend the thread? its not even on this website. read what anons r saying on THIS site cuz we're all saying "ban vpns on /ot/ and keep vpns on for cow boards."

No. 88308

>>88303
I don't know, tell that to the anons who kept posting about those two baiters in the CC thread as some sort of proof that every single VPN user is a troll.
>constantly
It's my first time posting a screenshot of CC here.
>obsessed with cc
This is the thread to discuss the VPN ban. A couple of cherrypicked screenshots could change the opinion of a bunch of people. I'm just letting it be known that they're cherrypicked and biased. Any more questions?

No. 88309

If you do decide not to ban VPNs on cow boards, could you at minimum ban them on the radfem cow threads so our resident self-white-knighter slash deranged vendettachan stops constantly shitting it up? The month's break from that was heaven.

No. 88310

>>88309
Please. The VPN ban literally solved the entire problem there. Now the thread is unparseable again.

No. 88317

If /ot/ goes full vpn ban can dumbass get unsaged please?

No. 88319

I think /ot/ having a vpn ban would be a good compromise, it's raided most by trolls and has an insane amount of bait posts

No. 88324

Go look at the radfems thread right now and then tell me we don't desperately need the VPN ban back. Jfc.

No. 88325

>>88324
This, the insane cow from that thread (Heterophobicdyke) shits it up with her poor attempts at sock puppet whitenighting and drunk posting as soon as VPN ban was lifted, during hellmas was the only time she couldn’t do it.

No. 88327

>celebricows is back to being unreadable
>unpopular opinions is now back to being always on the first page
i miss the VPN ban so much nonas

No. 88328

>>88327
Me too. Since the VPN ban came off, Unpopular Opinions got more replies than it did for the entire month of December. Bleak.

No. 88329

Can we please just get the poll up and running? This is getting unbearable. The VPN infighting is just as unpleasant to read as ot at this point

No. 88330

>>88217
That doesn't sound like a bad idea. Dumbass shit being on auto-sage is what killed the whimsy of this site.

No. 88331

>>88327
>>88328
even as the thirdie who could be effected, I agree that there should be a vpn ban on /ot/ to reduce the amount of baiting and raiding

No. 88332

>>88330
>the whimsy
What are you even talking about? Seriously why do spergs act like this about Dumbass Shit? It still exists, you can go post on it right now if you wanted to. Dumbass Shit spergs were the bane of /ot/ because they treated LCF like it was a chatroom when they weren't getting enough attention on their Discord servers. There are hundreds of threads on /ot/ and they all have different topics and themes, if you want to post something, anything, it could go in one of those threads. Why do we need large-scale chatroom threads? Why does that make /ot/ whimsical, why does /ot/ have to be filled with whimsy?? The best threads on /ot/ are the ones dedicated to particular topics, they're the threads that have the highest quality posts and they're the threads that Zoomers hate the most because they require reading skills.

No. 88333

>>88332
Damn anon whimsy really broke you today huh

No. 88335

>>88333
Not really, no, it doesn't take me much effort to type out a few sentences to articulate my thoughts. I don't know why Zoomers see a post that's longer than 1 sentence and act like it's a Herculean feat of intellectualism. I just don't get why you all worship a thread that died the moment it went on autosage. It's pretty clear that the only reason anons used it was for the immediate gratification of receiving attention, and once that attention ceased due to the autosage it naturally died out.

No. 88337

/ot/ was noticeably more enjoyable with the VPN ban in effect. Just giving my feedback.

No. 88338

>>88217
Yes please PLEASE cerbmin, bring back dumbass shit if /ot/ gets a vpn ban

No. 88354

>>88332
>Dumbass Shit spergs were the bane of /ot/
It's like you can't let go. The entirety of /ot/ objectively got worse after it's autosage and the newfag problem got worse too regardless. Because in the end, it was just normal anons posting in it plusminus 3 dedicated infighting spergs who wanted to get the thread shut down. Not whatever scapegoat you bad actors wanted to attach to it. Autosaging dumbass shit was completely useless and did nothing besides take away afun thread.

No. 88355

…how long does it take to set up a poll?

No. 88356

>>88355
About as long as it takes to set up a townhall.

No. 88361

>>88354
>take away afun thread.
They never took it away. You can go post in it right now.

No. 88372

>>88361
There's no point in discussion if no one sees your post and thus no one replies because the thread is buried 20 pages down the catalogue. If I wanted to talk to myself, I'd write in my journal.

No. 88373

>>88372
So then you agree that the only reason that anons posted in that thread was to get attention?

No. 88376

>>88373
Nta but at the end of the day, this is a site for discussion.

No. 88377

>>88373
That's the only reason anyone posts anything publicly on the internet, genius

No. 88380

>>88372
Was there actually discussion in there? Whenever I participated it was always just shitposting kek

No. 88381

>>88356
You just reminded me that the last townhall we had was 2 admins ago

No. 88384

>>88380
Nta but there used to be. I would say that the last few months/year before it got autosaged you could genuinely have some nice convos. It just got bad when a handful of anons started shitting up the thread with constant infighting, but that wouldn't be an issue if they do a board-wide VPN ban.

No. 88386

>>88373
Yes autist, in order to discuss with other people, they need to pay attention to what you post. This applies to gossip and literally any website where you interact with other people.

No. 88402

>>88386
Right, but if there were so many people that liked Dumbass Shit, and it was such a popular thread, and there was so many great discussions going on in it, why would anons stop using it? It's not impossible to search for a thread in the catalog. Even before the catalog was updated, it took less than a minute to find Dumbass Shit. Taking it off autosage didn't prevent anons from using it. If there was that many anons that loved the thread, they would have just continued to use it. The way that it died as soon as it went on autosage was indicative of the overall quality of the thread and its lack of popularity with the majority of the users.

No. 88407

>>88402
right like literally just keep it open in a tab, I don't see the issue here. lolcow never promised you a chatroom.

No. 88414

>>88402
So now we're pretending the thread wasn't popular? Why do you think the thread got autosaged? What was the intend?

No. 88416

>>88402
I think it makes sense it died when it was put on autosage, saging is a big deal for visibility here, thats why they get so butthurt about saging on other boards because it gives threads visibility for no reason. That said this could all be alleviated if we could just pin threads lol. (Coming never)

No. 88417

>>88372
what is with underaged hands constantly thinking lolcow is a chatroom theyre entitled to. this is why the quality of threads have gotten so low-iq.

No. 88420

>>88417
You can use the muh chatroom argument on literally any thread on /ot/. High chances are you're younger than me too.

No. 88421

>>88417
nobody with more of a life than a reddit mod would want to be a farmhand. just close the site at this point

No. 88464

>>88417
>>88407
How many times are you going to post the same retarded argument?

No. 88483

>>88416
>thats why they get so butthurt about saging on other boards because it gives threads visibility for no reason
That is not why you sage posts on cow boards. Jfc the dumbass shit spergs really are some of the most unintegrated perma newfags on this site.

No. 88487

>>88483
You’re meant to Sage so it doesn’t bump them for no reason. I bet you can’t even tell me what part of my post was incorrect.

No. 88505

a vpn ban would reslly help with integration.

No. 88506

>>88416
the word is sageing not saging.

No. 88510

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No. 88511

>>88510
That emoji is kinda hot

No. 88519

Farmhands on LC are 4chan mods - they've locked 4chan hate threads for a reason.
>>>/ot/2232351
>>>/ot/926266
So transparent.

No. 88520

>>88519
Do you even realize how retarded you sound?

No. 88523

>>88519
>trust me guys I did the research and I conclude the mods are 4channers
lmao you really cant think of another reason it was locked?

No. 88524

>>88519
You're so fucking embarrassing, lurk more retard.

No. 88532

Konnichiwa adominu-sama soshite faamuhando-santachi. Ano “POLL” wa doko desu ka?

No. 88534

>>88532
It's "PORU" you cretin.

No. 88544

>kiwifarms 2024 cow award results arent out yet
>lolcors 2024 cow awards results arent out yet
hmmm null must be trying his hardest to count all the votes with his chubby fat fingers

No. 88546

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>>88544
wow really makes you think

No. 88547

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>>88511
This one's hotter

No. 88548

>>88547
i-ikemen!

No. 88556

>>88547
Kyaaaaa the school council president is so cool!

No. 88565

File: 1736451288934.jpeg (170.65 KB, 1242x347, IMG_8142.jpeg)

When is the VPN ban coming back? The non-stop racebait is annoying.

No. 88566

Can we please keep the VPN ban on /ot/ and maybe have sitewide VPN bans over the holidays. PLEASE. There were so many baiters and unintegrated newbies that the VPN ban got rid of. /ot/ was actually fun for a while.

No. 88567

>>88547
Omg, that's my favourite dangannronpa character!

No. 88568

>>88565
when black men stop stealing people’s shit and muslim men take the jihad bombs off their vest and stop their hand midair from slapping their cousin bride(racebaiting)

No. 88595

>>88506
Do you think spicy is spelled as "spicey" too?

No. 88596

>>88595
nta but do you think sage comes from the herb?

No. 88597

File: 1736522861855.jpg (481.17 KB, 3862x2578, sage.jpg)

>>88596
>>88595
>anons saging a thread

No. 88599

A vpn ban is fucking retarded and nonnies with oppressive governments will be unfairly prevented from using the site. Not everyone is a fucking american with the luxury of free speech.

No. 88600

>>88599
your government doesnt care about you that much, i assure you.

No. 88601

>>88600
Iranian women are tortured and imprisoned for critising islam, leave your bedroom.

No. 88603

>>88600
Nta, but there are governments that monitor your use.

No. 88604


No. 88605

>>88604
Okay so why has 2/3rd of Cerbmin not been arrested and executed yet?

No. 88606

>>88605
…Because cerbmin is based in the USA?

No. 88607

>>88601
aww are you gonna tracking you down for criticizing islam on an obsure imageboard? than don't post then?

No. 88608

>>88607
Have another nice relaxing line of ket retard

No. 88611

>>88607
My government literally banned Pinterest, reddit and fucking canvas. Dictatorships are conformed by paranoid individuals, duh

No. 88612

Honestly how can you even consider turning on your userbase like this, cerbmin? A VPN ban is implementing the same censorship that lolcows threaten with lolsuits and fake lawyers.

No. 88613

>>88606
Oh so you are a newfag then LOL

No. 88614

>>88611
Based of them to ban reddit though. And also Pinterest considering all the shit about pedos that came out about it

No. 88616

>>88599
You thirdies should be spending your time finding a way out of your countries instead of making worthless posts here

No. 88618

>>88616
I'm gonna keep posting on lolcow and theres nothing you can do about it, amerifart cracker, best posts probably come from third worlders anyways

No. 88625

>>88613
Anon, the lolcow name is registered in a new places, not just the UK. Next you'll bring up that a moid is in charge and all the mods are trannies again.

No. 88642

>>88611
so there are still other social media platforms available to you? why do thirdies keep acting like if we don't allow their retardation here they're gonna die or something

No. 88643

>>88642
you're foul

No. 88657

>>88642
In case you're not trolling and just have shit reading comp:'Thirdies' aren't the ones shitting up threads with infights, they'll be unable to risk posting here without legal consequences. Also, many other first world countries like Germany and UK also ban free speech and women in the UK have been arrested for saying sex is real.

Americans really take free speech for granted.

No. 88661

>>88607
>>88616
>>88642
You're a miserable, overly cynic, petty psychopath with zero empathy and the sensitivity and tact of a severed arm. Be glad you weren't born in such places using a VPN would be necessary to beging with, you cunt

No. 88663

>>88661
Based response

No. 88664

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>>88616
>thirdies
AYRT I'm white British, fool. We literally don't have free speech here.

I'm also a teacher and lecturer in higher education and I don't want to get a criminal record or ousted from my job for kekking at troons.

No. 88668

File: 1736613982032.jpeg (1.28 MB, 1283x5986, IMG_0163.jpeg)

So lets take a look at Marion Miller. She is an accountant and an anti-trans activist for For Women Scotland. So this already tells me she isnt some NEET on an imageboard.
Well it looks like the charges were dropped recently. As an 2021 recently. How she even got into this mess was because someone sent a complaint to the police. Well, I'm sorry but this happens in the US too. Even you disagree with it, her post she put on social media under her real fucking name could be construed as hate speech, and that has consequences no matter where you live. She shouldve had another account to post shit like this.
Please stop with the trying to use stories like these to justify your need to be a retard online.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-59076966

No. 88678

>>88664
Should I play my sad violin?

No. 88686

>>88668
go back

No. 88688

>>88686
lol when you have no good rebuttal i guess "go back" will suffice

No. 88695

>>88688
i don't have to debate you. retards who cape for trannies are not welcome here, end story.

No. 88696

>>88668
Ah yes, I'm sure there will be absolutely no social consequences for this woman having her name and face attached to a "hate crime" story. The charges being dropped makes everything 100% okay.

No. 88697

>>88696
retard shouldnt have gotten ballsy with her real name attached. thats where she fucked up. end of story.

No. 88701

>>88696
Good thing you dont post here with anything that could identify you on lolcow, right? You wouldnt be that stupid… right?

No. 88730

Is the VPN ban poll happening or not? We're nearly two weeks into January at this point.

No. 88731

>>88730
In the maintenance message they mention that they are setting up onsite polls it'll probably be a little after tomorrow
>>>/meta/88649

No. 88735

>>88731
I completely missed that update. Thanks nonna



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