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No. 2011008
miffy says:
>don't reply to bait>no infighting>no racebait>report and ignore>board rules apply Prev:
>>>/ot/2002950 No. 2011032
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>>2011026haters gonna hate
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>>2011050well she is supposed to seem like shes drawn by a child soo..
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>>2011050Seriously Peppa pig is fucking hideous, best animated pig is Olivia.
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>>2011050That’s extremely fucking ableist against the pig community, please take that back you pig-exclusionary turd that kind of language is NOT allowed and uncalled for in this space. Pigs are supposed to be smelly and hairy with snouts, they cannot help eating heaps of slop when they need to eat a lot so they can become breakfast bacon for the breakfast-industrial complex to make ends meet for the CEOs of breakfast. Your human-privileged beauty standards and respectability politics against pigs trying to live their lives and be happy is unethical. No more slurs or we are going to have to mod you, better not cross the line.
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I'm about to drop a real unpopular opinion. This bitch is ugly.
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>>2011008Anyone who doesn't like Miffy has a negative IQ. Miffy, Olivia Pig, and Maisy are the three empresses of animal childhood figures.
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>>2011072kuromi? is that you?
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>>2011072since cinnamoroll is a boy does that mean i could fuck him?
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>>2011098>>2011105>March 6, 2001TIL that Cinnamonroll is an adult zoomer and not a shota despite his manlet height.
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does this not fit the unpopular opinions thread better
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Complaining about thread pics is inane because threads are ephemeral
No. 2011306
>>2011303Promiscuity at such a young age can underline many many issues, BPD, alcoholism (if it's just for alcohol),
abusive household, rape
victim..
No. 2011319
>>2011277if you love it that much you can always use it in a future thread, they fill up within days anyway
>>2011268not that i can recall but there's too many threads to keep track of so i could be wrong
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>>2011336Love her, even though she's clearly kookoo.
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>>2011336To be fair, she did say outrageous things that'd grant any white man cancellation lmfao
No. 2011366
>>2011282 i already exclaimed i just uploaded the gif as is, i am sorry about the black bar but if its making you
>seethe >hurt your eyes and heart i do apologize but i also recommend getting an autism test nonners
No. 2011371
>>2011355Honestly, it just makes me sad. If a fifteen year old is performing sexual acts for alcohol then that's fucked up and if she's doing such for attention then that's even more fucked up. It'd be one thing if she was in her twenties but at fifteen you just know something fucked up had been going on behind the scenes for such a thought or action to be carried out at that age.
Also
>church emo nightThat explains so much as to why you'd call a fifteen year old a dirty slut.
No. 2011376
>>2011365there are several peole replying to you lmao
>>2011369 I have friends from kindergarten. surprisingly enough we manage to talk about common interests such as music and books, we don't spend our time getting seething mad at people for something they did 20 years back
No. 2011399
>>2011391Nobody here thinks that kind of behavior is "cool". What we're saying is that it's pretty obvious that girl was abused or groomed or came across something seriously messed up in order to behave in such a way at fifteen years old. Pretty much every anon here is saying how she acted seriously not normal and points to signs that things were probably not okay in her life.
>>2011395Jesus Christ I really hope you're a moid because I refuse to believe that any grown woman can discuss videos of teenage girls doing things with horses without realizing that such things nearly 100% of the time come from abuse.
No. 2011405
>>2011391no one's saying it was cool we're all saying she had underlying issues.
why are you so mad about high school shit anyway? grow up
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Every single man is just waiting for the opportune moment to inflict pain onto woman. All men secretly want to hurt woman in some rhyme or fashion. Men get off on torturing woman. They only desire to ‘get back’ at woman. All men are built in with the desire to subjugate woman. You cannot be in an equal relationship with a male ever, because his kind subsists off of eating on your own. Men are parasites, they are vultures.
No. 2011420
>>2011410Nah cause I literally know her I was of the opinion she was a dirty slut when I was her age until this day, she's not from an
abusive family, I'm not her sister but she's not an only child I obviously went to school with her. Teenagers are promiscuous. They don't have to be abused to engage in sexual activity. Not every exhibitionist was abused. She was obnoxious about her dick sucking skills. She went to a different university and heard similar stories. If you guys want to date men that love wild parry girls be my guest I found it off putting.
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>>2011459pouring one out for 2009 emo night rip
>>2011462yeah but it's the most fun this thread has been in ages
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Space is dumb. I don't care about planets or stars or black holes. I think NASA and all other national space organizations are retarded and gay. Why do I care what's happening 20 thousand light-years away? Why don't we just build more apartments or hospitals or try to cure cancer with all the money being used up by space.
No. 2011481
>>2011473>I don't think investigating space is useful or worth the money or resources that are currently allocated towards space corporations.>"FUCKING BAITER!!"I'm trying so hard to see the bait that you see but I think your retardation is just too advanced for my mind. You're impressive.
>>2011476Exactly. Why should I even care what's on the moon? It's the moon. Big wop. Same with that stupid red desert planet. Why would I care if there's water on Mars? It's literally a different planet: it doesn't matter. Why is the government giving these space organizations billions of dollars a year? Just so we can see the moon? We already landed there in the 1940s it's not that big of a deal anymore the Cold War is over we can wrap it up.
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>>2011487>And god bless me for not imitating that behaviour and thinking being overly sexual is a viable means for attention.t.
No. 2011493
>>2011472This is why so many people abandon shitty small towns and don't have sentimentality around them. A lot of adults who grew up in them have this weird, backward mindset and think that whatever a girl does in her adolescence marks her as shit for life, but men are basically free to do whatever. Anon and her friends didn't bother to keep stock of all the teenage boys who were going to her for sex, because that's just "normal, typical guy behavior". Who would turn down a blowjob on emo night?? It's on the girl for being such a slut, she practically manipulated all those moids, duh.
It's only now that anon almost ended up sharing a moid with her that she cares about the males (but she still primarily blames her for everything lol).
No. 2011504
>>2011497I have the exact same thoughts, it pisses me off when people say they want to colonize space instead of fixing this planet. It's gotta be money laundering
Elon is a fucking idiot, mars doesn't have magnetic fields so everyone on the surface would die from cancer on Mars
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>>2011489The bag would go so fucking hard with a nice pair of shades, a white collared shit and some jeans or khakis. Coastal grandma ftw
No. 2011542
>>2011530everything about you reeks rude, mean and bully
and nothing to compensate for
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>>2011287Despite how pissed your post is making anons, I can see why you're disgusted by him and her. A history of sucking off random dudes to underage drink while you were fifteen is the kind of shit you either keep to yourself and quietly move on from, or share to a therapist to help move on from.
No. 2011560
>>2010908yes, because pregnant and postpartum ladies are in a
drastically altered state of mind. the hormonal changes effect everything from your memory to your motor skills, decision making skills, and so on. sorry you were in the debris field but, if you're pissing off a pregnant woman so bad to the extent that she kills you then maybe you should treat gestating mothers with a little more respect kek.
No. 2011567
>>2011471I think it's good to allocate money for research that may become break through developpements. And we don't know which one may just be that.
Nasa is part of the economy and actually generates money and finances jobs.
It also tracks asteroids and any potential danger in the sky. It also does a ton of research on the earth itself. They're also the one managing weather informations. They helped with new cancer drugs research, they recently agreed to help developing the future of agriculture…
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>>2011553So true, real y2k was making cute lighthearted art and watching trashy comedy shows with insensitive humor on TV
No. 2011574
>>2011553I love reinterpretated Y2K fashion personnaly
I'm actually mad because i'm a brown girl and i was like "this is sooo going to be my style" after a long quest of finding that said style, only for it to become THE trend and now i'm just basic for it.
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>>2011567>They help with new cancer drug researchOkay I think we should take all the money we give them and make them just research cancer and other sad diseases. Who cares if there is an asteroid that's gonna kill us. If there's an asteroid coming at us it's not like we can do anything about it. I looked up the cancer thing and I found picrel. My question is why does cancer research have to be in space? Why wouldn't they just research it down here on Earth? It's not like cancer is due to being in outer space. I just don't think space is that important. Okay we get it there's zero gravity wooooahhhh, what about poverty though? What about the millions of problems down here that that 25.4 billion USD could help solve?
No. 2011579
>>2011571"as someone who was abused" kek you've got the talking stick and the self-attributed representant of
abusive victims?
No. 2011584
>>2011569It's been hours and you're still here trying to convince us all that this lady is every bit as bad as you say. If you didn't have a BPD-esque projection obsession with this person, you'd have just walked away and enjoyed the rest of your day but instead you're still here.
>>2011572This picture makes me think of all the cringe mall cosplay me and the other local teens did. We even had an Itachi who drew on the face lines with eyeliner and everything. Good times.
No. 2011589
>>2011579I didn't say that I'm a representative for women who are abused, much like how children who whore out after being abused are representative of abuse
victims, hence why it is illogical to immediately assume she was an abuse
victim when she very easily could've just been brainwashed by the pornsick media thats fed to children via their access to the internet and television. Did you not consider that?
No. 2011590
>>2011574Eh fashion revival is good but sometimes they look too modern to be from that era
I just can't stand quirky moe hoes who draw Lain Smoking Epic Cocaine because she's bpd
femcel y2kcore emo scene girl
>>2011584Must have been a blast tbh
No. 2011599
>>2011588You care about people dying of poverty but not the possibility of an asteroid to hit a city?
It doesnt have to destroy civilization. But that'd be cool if it didnt happen and we had specialists working on that possible threat.
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>>2011606ok ntayrt but everyone loves to through around the word BPDchan improperly and its really biting my clit. cut it out.
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Can you guys please stop fighting?
No. 2011624
>>2011578The United States' welfare budget totaled $1.101 trillion in fiscal year 2023, or 18% of all federal outlays
25 billions is nothing for the USA + Nasa actually creates jobs and makes money with the patent they create. Everything about NASA is beneficial.
No. 2011634
>>2011633nta but the only example in the comment she responsed to was asteroids, also
>weather managing NASA can't control the weather
nonnie No. 2011643
>>2011634No, no! Don't you see Nona? NASA actually controls the weather, that's why we don't have hurricanes, tornadoes, or firestorms anymore, and they protect us from the millions of civilization-destroying asteroids that might hit us one day - because I just know it's coming because it happens all the time in the SciFi movies - somehow, even though it's never been done before
and probably never will be done because how tf do you destroy a huge ass asteroid? retarded, and they also fund medical research about diseases that you get in outer space, because
everyone goes to outer space so we have to make sure our outer space hospitals are well-equipped, and also they create jobs, just like our beloved scam call centers, so it's good for our economy, and NASA also researching the climate while literally everybody else is also researching the climate and already knows what's coming, and, and, we need NASA because I love outer space!!
No. 2011646
>>2011643You're blowing out of proportion something that i didnt correctly write because i'm not a native english speaker.
I meant to say they take care of whats weather related, that being said there is direct weather modification happening, just not on a grand scale.
No. 2011664
>>2011660I'm not debating whether or not an asteroid causes the dinosaur extinction event because I don't care about dinosaurs either because they aren't alive anymore. Why would anybody decide to dedicate their life to studying shit that went extinct millions of years ago I'll never know. I'm just saying that this line of thinking:
>An asteroid can be so large that it causes a global extinction event that almost all life is unable to escape from and catastrophically disrupts all ecosystems.>But NASA can save us! They will blow up the asteroid with their super-weapons and they will save us all!Is a retarded line of thinking. If an asteroid is gonna hit us and kill us all… okay? That's just what's gonna happen. Why do we need to funnel almost 25 billion dollars into that?
No. 2011666
For once they're potential threats, and you're ignoring 90% of what i say to push a narrative that is just false. NASA sells patents and inventions unlike scam call centers. I invite you to check it out
https://technology.nasa.gov/patents and the research against asteroid threats
https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2024-04/features/planetary-defense-nuclear-option-against-asteroidsAlso whats wrong with nasa funding projects that are funded by other infrastructure? Saying "omg the climate we know" is an illiterate take, we study how the climate affects the soil, plants, how to plan agriculture, the sea flux, etc etc. Are you proud of pulling shit out of your ass?
No. 2011669
>>2011628I want to clear up a misconception.
>>2011355>when it's specifically a girl that ruined emo night.I didn't mean her crime was getting emo night cancelled lol I have to say i hated emo music I preferred indie boys and they musical styling of bands such as the libertines and bloc party. I meant that her being the reason we stopped hanging out there stays in your mind. That park was where I first drank it is a time that you'll remember. Like no ones upset we didn't even watch the bands or we wouldn't have been there to witness the shenanigans. She and the park are synonymous, the mention of her name wires my brain to those times. That's what I meant. I was on a date and a guy mentions his girlfriend went to my highschool and then the conversation turned. I didn't even say to him oh you dated the slut lol I listened to his stories he overshares I didn't realise why all our 3 dates where at a bar but he's an alcoholic (surprise!). Her name was a red flag and honestly it's pretty funny. Especially when I can anonymously post this without revealing her identity but let's moralfag for 4 hours
(infighting) No. 2011675
>>2011674We cant just storm their business places and turn them into slaves the good ol fashion way? We
have to study?
No. 2011683
>>2011676You keep rambling about outerspace like i didnt give you a 10 examples that didnt involve outer space outside of direct strastopheric security.
That 25 billions isnt even a 1/10 of the USA's budget in welfare.
That asteroids are a real threat, just because you can't conceive it does not make it less real.
NASA also funds project that help with tsunamis and earthquake nonna… who do you think launch earthquake warnings?
https://cais.gsi.go.jp/UJNR/UJNR4P/Donnellan-NASA.pdf No. 2011696
>>2011552NTA but I'm a millennial and was considered weird for not liking boys at age 12, being boy crazy was seen as more normal than the opposite. not agreeing with it btw but it isn't unusual and where i live you were more likely to get ostracized for
not being like that
No. 2011712
>>2011710You live in a system that favorise investements for future marketable products, military defense and international dominion.
Not only has it grandly benefited you, it has for humanity as whole even if it's not perfect. I'll pick capitalism over communism every single time.
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>>2011779I think this is a problem with a lot of comedians right now. Instead of working on their own unique sense of humour, they just look at other comedians and what's working for them and try and rip them off. Not everyone is good at that awkward cringe style of comedy, I think because to use that type of humour you have to have a really good understanding of what makes something awkward and cringe, not actually
be awkward and cringe. Sort of like the quote in picrel. A lot of these flop cringe comedians only understand
what cringe is, not
why cringe is, and so their humour ends up coming across as stale and passé. It's like they watched Napoleon Dynamite but instead of laughing at the funny world Napoleon inhabits, they hon in on Napoleon himself even though he's meant to be the "straight man" trope, or foil, of the twisted and awkward reality of the film.
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Not an unpopular opinion here but it’s disturbing how many males use onlyfans, like a huge percentage of the population are degenerates. And now it’s normalized and normies see nothing wrong with any of it
No. 2011831
>>2011830>81mil male Americans use OF>165mil male Americans aliveBasically if you're dating a guy rn you've got an 1 in 2 chance he's on OF and probably more if you're in your 20s like most of the userbase here.
When are normie women finally going to lose faith in dating and men?
No. 2011834
>>2011829as a zoomer who has no friends, i'm too scared to form a relationship with anyone now because i'm horrified that any breath i take or move i make they'll be screenshotting our texts and looking for ways to cancel me even though im not anyone important. zoomies are so hypersensitive to anything that they disagree with, the moment they encounter it they immediately feel the need to 'expose' whomever has ground their gears publicly. it makes it hard to know who you can trust, no matter how 'trust worthy' they seem or however close you may be to them. because once that friendship is over or you just grow apart they'll start making tiktoks and twitter threads about their old "
toxic friendship".
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Parents who marry other parents but make another child even though they both already have kids get on my nerves. Both of you already have kids and they're siblings because of your marriage now; WHY is it so important that you create a specific baby with your new spouse's DNA? Is the marriage or the family not strong enough unless you share a biological child with your spouse? It's all just so fucking tacky to me.
No. 2011866
>>2011863>A lot of women let men do stuff to their kids so the guy will stay Are these heaps of women in the room with us?
>Even if she didn’t know I still think she should get a few years or months in prisonJust say you hate your mom and go
No. 2011873
>>2011866nta but do you expect that anon to give you a list of names of
abusive and neglectful mothers or what? also
>just say you hate your mom and go this is such a weird and unnecessarily hateful response to a very reasonable opinion. if you endanger your child, you are neglecting them and should be charged accordingly.
No. 2011876
>>2011861yeah not to mention they treat their step children like shit
>>2011868the world is overpopulated enough
No. 2011878
>>2011871I'm sure tayrt believes that the moids are capable of murderous acts of violence on their own, however children getting access to guns will always fall on the shoulders of the
parents. Not ever just the mother or one parent. you're not reading the words she is using in her comments.
No. 2011888
>>2011881you're reacting as if we're insinuating that the men shouldn't be punished for their crines. no, they absolutely should, however both parents should be charged because the mother allowed it to happen. also
>weren't even aware it was happeningthats even more of a reason why the mother should be charged. the lack of
attention to her own child in her own home. that is precisely what child neglect is, nonners.
No. 2011890
>>2011883yeah but there are 380k babies born everyday, that's twice as much as people dying daily
the economy is shit enough everywhere of the world and I don't see why some people want to keep reproducing despite all that
Majority of step parents are fucking horrible and don't deserve to be parents
No. 2011906
>>2011900yeah see? my point still stands, majority of step parents are shitty and abuse their step children a lot and favor their own biological children no matter how shitty the biological kid's behavior gets
It only adds to shitty adults later on in life
>>2011901only if you're looking after all of them
No. 2011940
>>2011834>they'll start making tiktoks and twitter threads about their old "toxic friendship"Unfortunately, not only zoomers do this. I think at this point it's just better to avoid people with tiktok or twitter accounts heh
It's just fucked up when people start sharing publicly something about their relationships - romantic ones or friendships - with details and screenshots, when it wasn't even
abusive/dangerous. Pure narcissistic behavior that's instantly enabled and encouraged
No. 2011946
>>2011906Yeah I agree, the amount of people who have messed up relationships with their parents because they decided to have another child (half sibling) is just gonna keep growing if we act as if blended families are totally great and should be as blended as an ED smoothie.
Best case scenario is always 2 parents and 2.5 related children, that's not possible all the time but it should be emulated as close as possible, adding another, not even fully related to your children child especially when the existing children are above toddlehood is just cruel.
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>>2011883tbh I'm always put off when people talk about underpopulation and 'declining birth rates'. Mostly because, even if there were policies that made it easier for women to be financially capable of having (more) children, the data we currently have shows that , in countries that have higher gender equality and where women have better financial security, more women would choose to have fewer children. If women aren't financially coerced, most women would choose to have less than 3 children, therefore causing a 'declining birth rate'. This wraps back around to MRA and conservative talking points about why there needs to be push backs against women's rights. That being said, we shouldn't try to resolve the 'issue' of declining birth rates with taking away the autonomy of women, but instead try to accept that infinite, exponential growth shouldn't be constantly strived for, and our economies should do something about this inevitability. pic rel
No. 2011966
>>2011959It's cause women get treated like shit by the healthcare system throughout pregnancy and postpartum. Most providers won't dare prescribe you anything at all even if it's safe during pregnancy or they'll constantly blow off concerns and say "that's normal" sometimes until the woman actually dies or it resorts to something that could've been prevented like pre eclampsia. Postpartum is hellish, they won't prescribe quality pain relievers even though majority of other countries do, push pitcoin which has a ton of risks, if you are unable to get help from your family they'll laugh in your face if you ask insurance to cover a nurse to help out at home, there's no education on the importance of postpartum care and nutrition, if you're having trouble producing milk you're just pushed shitty expensive formula even though there's medications that can help you produce more that they'll happily give to trannies for some women and all mothers get is to get an unrealistic pump schedule that will make you die of sleep deprivation before it does anything for your milk supply. You get like one postpartum check up and that's it, postpartum mental health care is a joke and they actually think ssris is a good replacement for hiring help or prescribing mothers literally anything else
Even when it's not related to the mother - a lot of women get gaslit by pediatricians and told they're just being anxious/crazy when there's something wrong with the baby or they simply just won't do anything until something serious happens
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>>2011072That's how I feel about Hello Kitty. Leave My Melody alone. She appeals to my mental illnesses kek.
No. 2011987
>>2011980There's simply just no consequences for anyone who isn't "on top" in America, doctors never get consequences for blowing off patients that lead to their death, and the law system made it damn near impossible to sue unless you actually die and even then your family is too focused on paying out the ass for funeral costs trying to sue the doctor that kept ignoring you is the last thing on their mind
No consequences for anyone relating to child care either, I've seen daycares kill kids and face no punishment, CPS will leave kids with
abusive parents that leads to their death and there's no consequences, schools will ignore safety issues and there's no consequences. Like don't they claim to have a bunch of ridiculous rules everywhere we go to avoid law suits? Whatever happened to the fear mongering of lawsuits when they're not afraid of literally killing people apparently?
No. 2012007
>>2011987In my case I'm not American. But I keep seeing women from all over the world, including American women, saying similar shit. Everything you said doesn't surprise me, based on what I see when checking the news. In the case of CPS leaving kids with their
abusive parents, it's sadly a universal problems. Whenever I read headlines about courts forcing divorcing mothers to let rapist, pedophile fathers have access to their children even though it's been proven that these guys are raping the kids it's always from different countries. It's just insane. Then in another thread there was that case of the guy who forced his skinny son to work out and who beat him up to death and was biting his head on camera and the court didn't give a fuck until it was too late.
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I feel like her lifestyle, even though it’s highly dramatized on social media, makes no sense because her specimen wouldn’t have existed back then where this lifestyle was prevalent. Ban me idcurr had to say it she just looks weird, this Ice Spice species is creeping me out
No. 2012041
>>2011945How can you be forced to have kids in the USA? What you’re talking about only applies to 3rd world or women stuck in extreme religious families not the typical abuse
victim here.
No. 2012042
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>>2012016She’s the untalented female rapper that looks like she has downs. When you mix with certain people it creates an uncanny, lovecraftian look for your children and it scares me. I feel like I’m the only one knows mixed people were created in the past in order to become biological weapons against native populations to further assimilate them into the dominant culture. Unpopular option some genetics just don’t mix properly, sorry for low quality picrel but she looks like that character from guardians of the galaxy and not in a good way. Nara looks the overgrown version of that child from Ice Age
(racebait) No. 2012063
>>2012058That’s still not really force. If your bf or husband was abusing you before you had kids, it’s still a choice to breed with him. They could’ve left before the kids. The average American woman in
abusive relationships isnt from some extreme religious family that would honor kill her. Most of them are there because they love their scrote.
No. 2012071
>>2012068But still as a grown woman it’s still partially her fault if she has kids with a man who abuses her. The kids aren’t going to care that mommy got manipulated while they’re being raped or beat by her
abusive scrote she loves too much to leave. Being easily manipulated by a scrote does mean you’re stupid.
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>>2012042The thing is that she used to be quite normal looking. Her eyes look pretty different tho.
No. 2012076
>>2012071Wym? I've seen kids of
abusive dads show nothing but sympathy towards their mom. Telling women they're just stupid and bad just makes them think they deserve the abuse, especially now that when women do get the strength to leave those relationships the reactions are never "wow good job for improving your life" it's always "why did you ever let this happen anyway? Dumb cunt". People forget women are human beings and not punching bags for everything wrong with the world
No. 2012079
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>>2012065Agreed kek, guess it doesn’t matter the quality of true natural beauty unless it’s dipped in light skin. Anok Yai is probably the most stunning woman I’ve ever seen and probably one of the few where makeup is just enhancing her features, not another mask to cover her ugliness/mediocrity
No. 2012087
>>2012080>Traumatized women who are currently in an abusive relationship aren't in the right mindWho would've thought
Anyone if you can't understand how treating a traumatized women in an
abusive relationship like a human being helps her get out of that situation over calling her stupid repeatedly you should probably stay out of it and let people who know how to handle the situation in a more educated and successful way
No. 2012088
>>2012080you do realize that women typically do not like have men walk up to them and punch them in the face and then decide like oh i wanna be with him, right? like it starts out good. sometimes these women are not even abused until after they have children???? like without even getting into trauma bonding.
we actually do live in an empathetic society btw. because i live in it and am part of it and people like me get to choose just as much as people like you. just so you know.
No. 2012091
>>2012087I wouldn’t call them stupid but I would be thinking it because let’s be real, most women who end up with scrotes like that aren’t the brightest tools in the tool box. When was the last time you’ve heard of a woman who is a surgeon or something in
toxic relationships like that with a scrote? I don’t think being stupid makes them bad people though.
No. 2012096
>>2012080I think you are underestimating how hard it is to "just leave him" because a woman also has to ensure that he can't FIND her. Like, potentially staying with family or friends is not enough and puts more people in danger, if the woman hasn't been isolated from her support network. Even in the case of shelters and other resources for battered women they have to hide the physical locations because
abusive moids will threaten, harass, harm and potentially kill anyone even remotely related to helping a woman get away from him.
No. 2012097
>>2012091Are you joking? Almost all the most successful women I've ever known have been in a relationship with a shitty or
abusive moid at least once. Did your moid have a history of abusing women or something and that's why you're trying to pedal the "abused and traumatized women are stupid" narrative so hard? It wouldn't surprise that's typically the take of women who cape for those moids
No. 2012098
>>2012091I have. Anyone can become a
victim of abuse.
No. 2012099
>>2012096I feel bad for the women who are trapped in
abusive relationships because their scrotes will kill them but I don’t feel bad for the ones who stay because they’re “in love”. I don’t hate them but why should I feel bad for an adult who is making a choice as an adult?
No. 2012101
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>>2012091Literally a pediatrician who did leave her
abusive moid only to get killed anyway.
No. 2012103
>>2012097I would never date a scrote who has a history of abusing other women but a lot of women do end up with
abusive men who have criminal records and believe that man won’t beat them because they’re special
No. 2012104
>>2012099Eh I feel bad only because a lot of it typically roots from the woman being heavily traumatized or coming from
abusive parents and thinking a lot of the behavior is normal, plus manipulative and
abusive moids are able to literally brainwash the woman into thinking she's responsible for all of his behavior(what usually happens). I feel like people forget women who find themselves stuck with
abusive men aren't exactly happy go lucky Stacy's , they're mentally ill women with long histories of trauma who've never been given a healthy example of what to look for an expect from a relationship and aren't as good as spotting manipulation tactics
No. 2012110
>>2012104I feel indifferent to it unless they have kids and subject them to their shitty scrote. They chose to fall in love with
abusive scrotes instead of self reflecting and getting therapy but the kids didn’t get the choice to be there.
No. 2012112
>>2012108Yes many stupid women end up in relationships with men who have a history of abuse towards other women. That’s how the majority of them end up in
abusive relationships. Most men don’t care to hide that side of themselves because they know they could get women anyway.
No. 2012118
>>2012112And what are you doing exactly? Why do you want to shut down abused women so badly unless you're trying to defend an
abusive scrote? Or let me guess "all his exes are just making false accusations of him!! "
No. 2012119
>>2012112NTA, that's literally not the way that most women end up in
abusive relationships. Usually the woman might have no way of getting info about the guy or he spins crazy stories about how terrible all his exes were (that's why that's typically seen as a red flag). Usually
abusive moids act "perfect" and that's how they ensnare women. Hell, watch any documentary about a woman who ends up with a psycho moid it's always the same story, not a man happily proclaiming how he beats women on a first date. Anyway at this point it sounds like a cope that you keep harping that the women must be dumb so you can feel you are "too smart" to end up in an
abusive relationship, and for your sake, I hope you never fall into one and have to eat your words.
No. 2012124
>>2012118I’m not shutting them down. I’m just saying I don’t feel bad for women who stay in
abusive relationships because they’re in love with the scrote. Not all
victims of child abuse grow up to date men like that, it’s an excuse.
No. 2012126
>>2012124Yes? You're attempting to make them feel negatively about themselves for being abused. Idk what you plan to accomplish with that other than ensuring
abusive scrotes get free passes
No. 2012130
>>2012126If they have kids with an
abusive scrote and they suffer then they should feel bad.
No. 2012137
>>2012124I was a
victim of child abuse. The guy I was engaged to was a witness his family let me spend Christmas one year after they saw me bruised one day after school. He even came between my mum and me once when she tried to attack me. We were together 8 years. 6 years in is when he started beating me too and even used the fact I was still loyal and loved my mother as the fact it was OK to hit me. It took a year of therapy for me to gain the confidence to leave him and my only option was to move back in with my mother but because my mother was open and honest about her short comings and engaged with my therapy we were able to come through it. My ex did a 180 and decided if my mum could keep me in line and I'd still love her he was entitled to the same unconditional love. I left him. It wasn't easy. I suffered the entire time but you can't understand the emotional turmoil unless you live it. I wasn't under the impression it was normal to be abused and I was a martyr for being loyal to a cunt. I was scared about how to live and take care of my needs as a human in regard to shelter and food I didn't want to be homeless I had to do a lot of back and forth on my option and had to take a gamble that my homelife with my mother could be stable enough to get back on my feet. It wasn't easy. I never publicly made a show of any of this abuse in fact my ex went on to get married. I have never spoke to his wife. I have no idea how he behaves with her but if he was to snap one day and put hands on her she's hardly a fucking idiot. She doesn't know he was
abusive in his past I don't know what she knows about his previous relationship. I'm also not a retard as abuse
victims keep getting painted. I have a masters, I worked while being in an
abusive relationship and no one at my job knew. It wasn't until I ended that relationship and opened up to my trusted friends about the truth and they also told me they've been hit by near enough every boyfriend. My friends aren't retards or deserving of being hit by some man. Women are not at fault for being abused and the signs aren't always obvious and when she does get assaulted I'm sure she's put a lot more thought into her situation than you have.
No. 2012140
>>2012134It comes off that way to you but that’s not what I said. Deciding to have kids with an
abusive scrote is a bad choice and they should feel bad about any of the abuse their children endured but they also should try to leave. Them deciding to leave does no absolve them from the traumatic experiences their kids had to endure like rape, beatings, violent attacks etc but they should leave for a better life for their kids because their children are innocent in all of this.
No. 2012145
>>2012135It's a pickme caping for an
abusive moid
No. 2012146
>>2012141nah i replied once, saw they were not even reading what i wrote and gave up. i genuinely think everyone who is arguing has a right to and i can tell a lot of women here are rightfully
triggered. if it makes them feel better, yell. it’s just obvious this is not an actual discussion and being held in bad faith. like men when they pop in to a discussion where women are talking about male violence just to say women can be violent too. i think it does benefit abuse
victims to read the responses i just don’t want that to come at the cost of the women here who have been abused.
No. 2012153
>>2012148And what if a man rapes his partner and forces her into a pregnancy she doesn't want. The world isn't black and white. I'll agree there's couples out there that have too many children for their means and there's lazy parents, however I don't see the point in calling abuse
victims stupid and earnestly thinking the majority of then deliberately bring children into this world to be abused.
No. 2012154
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I miss when rock music was really popular, or at least when it was the mainstream music in america. i've been relistening to princes discography and it's making me feel bitter about the current state of music.
No. 2012156
>>2012153I feel bad for women in situations where they are being forced, for example I feel bad for some 14 year old in a 3rd world country who gets raped and forced to have kids. I don’t feel bad for women in first world countries who stick with
abusive scrotes because they’re in love and addicted to toxicity and bring kids into that environment.
No. 2012158
>>2012151Pretty much
>Wow I think she got plastic surgery/used Photoshops/is presenting her life in a way that doesn't reflect reality >JealouuusssYet moids will go on pages of successful women to rip apart about how they're not Elon, how they went to Yale instead of Oxford while same said moid went to their community college, mocking her student debt when they wouldn't date laugh at the student debt of successful moids or even will fight against it, etc
No. 2012167
So if we're talking about shitty boyfriends and the women who date them, can we have an honorable mention for women that date men that are obviously losers and act surprised when those men end up being…losers? No no no, I'm not talking about women that were genuinely lied to and misled by a man into thinking he was normal while he was hiding the kind of person he truly was, I'm talking about guys that are straight up, obvious losers. If you met a man that sagged his pants, can't keep a job, threw up wannabe gang signs in every photo, is littered in shitty tattoos, didn't even graduate highschool, and formed sentences worse than a five year old, would you date him? No, you wouldn't. It would be an obviously bad idea to even procreate with moids like that. But I gotta recognize a cycle when I see one because 90% of the women I personally know of who date moids like that don't even HAVE fathers or father figures to teach them what a good man is. So they date loser scrotes who run out on raising their kids or helping them in any way, and are forced to raise either a son who will probably end up just like his father due to not having a good male role model in his life, or a daughter who will probably end up like her mother by choosing idiot scrotes to make babies with due to not having a good father that would give her insight on how moids think and how to spot a good one.
No. 2012171
>>2012168Most people rely on what is the most common opinion and advice to make decisions. If you already think these people are too stupid to make their own decisions surely you'd want to promote the idea of leaving
abusive relationships instead of just clowning someone for not leaving sooner? That makes no sense
No. 2012173
>>2012167Like that girl Morgan who had baby with a 31 year old scrote with no job and made her whole TikTok basing him. Of course she’s back with him though.
No. 2012180
>>2012171It’s not my job to baby adults. If you’re being abused and have kids with an
abusive scrote I’m going to think you’re stupid and reckless. I wouldn’t say that to someone’s face but that’s what I’d be thinking of them on the inside.
No. 2012194
>>201183082 millions is crazy…
Like i genuinely thought it was much more niche than that
No. 2012268
>>2012263Idk, i think it implies bonding with someone who has been through similar things from you and it can be unhealthy because you feed into those traumas to keep each other closes. It's not exactly the same as someone who's constantly looking for chaos. Lots of rape
victims, veterans, druggies etc etc often "trauma bond".
No. 2012310
>>2012272Nta but been watching interviews of men who've survived bear attacks. Every one of them seemed to make mistake after mistake after bad decision and still somehow came out not that bad off long term. Starting to question whether I'd take on a bear over certain dog breeds. Bears, huge but it's like they only give it half power when attacking people.
Or maybe I've fallen
victim to bearpsyops
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>>2012272>>2012287Idk nonnas, moids love to say that they're the strong sex and that they can do anything in the world, if that's true then they shouldn't be afraid of the animals that they themselves supposedly domesticated.
I particularly despise the moids that are afraid of tiny dogs tbh, none of these dogs could actually manage to hurt a moid.
No. 2012345
>>2012330>shetland sheepdogI swear the english language is so stupid. "Blueberry", "Pineapple"
Just create a new word goddamn
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This is basically what heaven looks like. I'm not accepting any concrit or disagreements.
No. 2012470
>>2012094It actually definitely happens, I'm the child from one of these relationships where the man got
abusive only many years later after having a child (not physically
abusive but still) and I know other people in the same boat. I actually do buy into the idea that some men will seem decent until the weird jealousy/ability to trap a woman with a child/resentment of her pregnancy kicks in. In my dad's case it made him completely lose respect for my mom and stop seeing her as an equal for some reason. I also have known other people whose dads became alcoholic, violent or financially
abusive once they had kids. Maybe low-IQ trailer trash men can't stay on good behavior for more than 6 months but smarter men definitely can or sometimes just genuinely stop humanizing their wives/girlfriends once they have a baby.
No. 2012482
>>2012097every single one of them have gotten themselves into
abusive relationships..? that does sound like idiocy. if a man is disrespecting you, you leave. and there are going to be many red flags that are blatantly telling you to leave him, even long before the cork pops off the bottle and he
really does something extreme. if you aren't in a stable financial situation or for some reason were dating/married to him because he could provide for you, then you shouldn't have been dating or attempting to get married until you knew that you were capable of supporting and securing yourself. i'm seriously not trying to sound like i'm
victim blaming, but theres a big difference between truly being a
victim and being stupid as hell getting yourself into shitty situations because you have poor decision making skills.
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Red lipstick with blue eyes is not a good look. Blue eyes pairs so much better with brown and dark purple lipstick if you have dark hair, and pinks and nudes if you have light or blonde hair.
No. 2012529
>>2012482Anon, people aren't born with high standards and self-respect, and most people make mistakes before they gain experience and understanding of certain things/relationships/personality types. Also it's only recently that people started talking about abuse, red flags and all that shit but knowing the theory doesn't guarantee you'll instantly become a great perceptive judge and won't ever be lead by subconscious/irrational responses, insecurities, fears, etc.
>i'm seriously not trying to sound like i'm victim blaming, but theres a big difference between truly being a victim and being stupid as hell getting yourself into shitty situations because you have poor decision making skillsBelieving in some sort of "perfect
victim" is the epitome of
victim blaming. Plus, sorry to tell you but sometimes there are things that are out of your control. Other people are out of your control: they change, they might have something on their mind and you won't know, they suddenly show true colors in an unusual/stressful situation. And I feel like women who
victim blame want to have this illusion of control - "if I do everything right, I won't ever experience something like this". It doesn't fully depend on you.
No. 2012553
>>2012482It's a case by case thing. Sometimes the signs are so small and ever so gradually increase so it's like a lobster not knowing they're sat in a boiling pot. Sometimes it really is a jekyll and hyde thing where it's a less gradual change but that's because it comes right after marriage trap, baby trap, mortgage trap, etc. And sometimes there's signs that yeah should've been obvious way sooner but sunken cost/too invested/too in love already. Then a phase of suck it up and hope it changes in time. It doesn't. Sometimes people who grew up surrounded by abuse say oh I'll never let that happen to me and yet they're at increased risk of it because our brains seek out familiarity in a twisted (subconscious) way.
Lately it feels like every other anon on here looking for advice about their bf wants to blame his behaviour on him either having tism or 'probably' having tism. It's easy to see how the blinders come on once you're already invested. He's just stressed atm.. he's just going through something.. he's probably doesn't even know what he's doing to me. Assuming these guys showing early signs are just bumbling, socially stupid and unaware is the biggest trap of all when you do have that early chance to see it and leave.
No. 2012554
>>2012529No I actually didn't say theres a 'perfect
victim', because I'm not talking about women who actually are
victims of abuse. I'm talking about women who are willfully ignorant, which I made very clear in the post you tagged. I said that if you irresponsibly depend on a man who you either barely know or purposefully choose to ignore his redflags because you think you're special to him is making the decision to walk into a dangerous, obviously
abusive situation, then you aren't a
victim at all. You knew exactly what you were getting yourself into, you knew that it was irresponsible to depend on a man to begin with.
>sometimes there are things that are out of your control I do understand that men do put on the perfect prince act to get you in bed with them, but you're supposed to move through these stressful situations that force you to grow as a couple
before you move in together and depend on him. Because, if you've been together for less than 3+ years and you quit your job and move into his home with the hopes of being daddy's little housewife, you're locking yourself into a thoughtlessly dangerous situation. I didn't think you had to have high standards to know that.
No. 2012582
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>>2011118why does it look like she's being held by pic rel kek
No. 2012591
>>2012579Giving you gifts and paying for trips and he barely knows you , talking about marriage/kids when he barely knows you, complimenting you way too much, trying to be super sweet and trying to love the relationship to loving in when he barely knows you, trying way too hard to be romantic like a cheesey romance movie(most women eat this up). Most women stay in
abusive relationship because they’re chasing the love bomber that they fell in love with.
No. 2012608
>>2012579>>2012598What characterizes love bombing for me is times where he's giving you a constant stream of attention, offering to take care of you, buying you presents or your necessities to seem caring, texting and calling you often to seem attentive, which then slowly turns into periods of inattentiveness and sudden ambivalence, then once again following up with the loving, caring, husband-material wannabe persona. A man whos naturally romantic and sappy will
try , not always very gracefully, to be more gentlemanly and willing to take things slower. Wanting to get to know you and spend time with you 1;1 without it depending on him offering you some kind of material object. It'll be less likely that he's clingy, he'll ease slowly into waiting to say I love you, things like that.
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>>2012611The first thought that came to my mind when reading your post was Danileigh. Wasn't DaBaby known for being a shitty boyfriend to his ex, and didn't it make news that he punched a woman at his concert? Yet Dani still hooked up with him. It's fucked up that he tried to kick her and their newborn out of his place and on live, but it was stupid of her to expect different from him.
No. 2012621
>>2012326This is true, my friend had a rottweiler/german shepherd cross in her small apartment when I met her and I immediately thought 'wow, that's a really weird dog for a 5'2 girl to have in a tiny apartment.' The dog was actually super sweet and well behaved but I thought her owning it was bizarre. Then I found out it wasn't her dog, she took the dog from her friend who went to prison for assault. The only time I trust moids who have dogs like that is if they're service dogs/retired police dogs. The other guy I knew with a german shepherd was the
abusive drug addict ex-military dad of my friend who ended up dropping out of school because of parental abuse, and that dog was vicious.
No. 2012626
>>2012482NTAYRT but most of the highly educated high-earning women I know had at least one, sometimes multiple
abusive relationships too, possibly not to the point of getting beaten but emotionally
abusive, sexually coercive, cheating, ruining the woman's self esteem. Part of the reason for this I think is there are actually far more educated, successful and beautiful women than there are men on their level so a lot of these women end up thinking it's better to 'settle' for a guy who earns less or is less educated, and those guys end up taking their insecurities/self esteem issues on their girlfriends and feel emasculated by the woman being better than them in most ways. They might act super sweet and enamored at first but then the fact the woman mogs them in looks and accomplishments starts to get to them after a while. None of the women I'm talking about (to my knowledge) got to the point of being beaten by their moids before they left, but often they would be in relationships for many months or even years before realizing the scrote was becoming awful to them, cheating or intentionally wearing away at their self esteem.
I don't agree with you about the financial situation thing, the problem with poor people is that they have to do something until they're able to support themselves and one of the ways people do that is to lower cost of living by moving in with dating partners. If you wait until you're completely stable and secure before you get into relationships you might actually accrue less wealth because you can't afford rent if you can't find a stable roommate situation the way you can if you move in with a bf. I even knew girls who didn't like their bfs much but stayed living with them for longer than necessary just because it helped them save up and get on their feet.
No. 2012639
>>2012626Yeah, this. Not to mention a lot of times young women wind up with an
abusive man because they’re trying to escape their
abusive or chaotic home life and they decide to go with (what they see as) the lesser of two evils. Getting really sick of these stale, judgmental takes from NEETs with no life experience making such broad statements about a demographic they usually don’t know anything about.
No. 2012646
>>2012529It depends on so many factors. Some people who were abused as kids or had
abusive romantic relationships in early life develop a very good 'radar' for abusers and become extremely good at protecting themselves, with very high standards. Others get so mindfucked by their abuse that they can't recognize
abusive behaviour at all, blame themselves or gaslight themselves that they are the abuser, and end up unintentionally getting into strings of
abusive relationships even when they actively try to date someone who seems like the 'opposite' of their last partner. I know this is often considered
victim blaming too but I 100% agree that abusers can 'sniff out'
victim aura on certain people and know that they are easy targets, I'm not sure exactly how but I know it is true because I have seen it happening. I've also seen guys be pursued by multiple women and they will choose the one who seems like less of a 'catch' because she's easier to manipulate. The women who are walking around setting off abusers' spidey senses don't know they're doing it and it's not intentional, so blaming them is pointless. Sometimes people bring up the 'I was abused but I'm not like that at all' thing to blame other
victims but there are a ton of factors that affect whether you will be more or less vulnerable after abuse.
>>2012553The autism thing is just very popular right now, it also is increasing (soon over 50% of male children born will have autism if the autism rates keep increasing as they have been). But autism isn't an excuse anyway and I think women should not reproduce with autistic men period.
No. 2012652
>>2012639None of this 'reasoning' changes the fact that if you choose to live with an
abusive man you're willingly entering the situation and are thus complicit in your own abuse. Choosing to go from
abusive parents to a random cruel scrote instead of getting a job and finding a place to live (preferably with other women) is really goddamn stupid. I know this because I have lived with such parents, so assuming that none of us have any personal experience with this topic is a redundant attempt at ending the conversation.
No. 2012657
>>2012611sage for blog but I experienced this myself, a guy I was dating who was from East Asia would constantly talk about how he liked me (and other 'western') women more than Asian women as partners because we're conditioned to be more assertive and less demure, and he would say it in a way where it wasn't really bashing other women but just seemed like it was expressing a slight preference although it still set off some alarms. Then I realized that he literally treats women of his own culture like they're 'supposed' to be like that and caped for other Asian men who treated their girlfriends like maids which led to me breaking up with him, but he was good at hiding it behind this veneer of 'I just prefer western dating norms.' To be fair I don't think he was
abusive to past girlfriends he just didn't have many exes but it's a red flag imo when a man uses a cultural difference to insinuate you're 'better' than another type of woman.
No. 2012661
>>2012646Yeah I didn't really take into consideration there are a lot of mentally delayed children who are abused during their childhood years and think that kind of behavior is perfectly normal. then when they finally become an independent adult living by their lonesome, they think that now that their parents are out of their lives and forge their own relationships with their friends and boyfriend, and they don't recognize the red flags their scrote is waving because they think thats just how people act, but I did specify in my initial post that i'm referring to women who are able to recognize when they're in an
abusive relationship, which most abuse
victims are. Sorry i had to delete and repost i wasn't done typing kek
No. 2012664
>>2012652Nta but the whole "you chose to be abused" thing is pretty much just textbook
victim blaming anon.
No. 2012667
>>2012633Not everyone will 'need' a boyfriend to scrape by but people who are living together with someone usually do have better finances and it is a major reason why many people move in with partners too early. No one I know who did this felt 'above' moving in with roommates, they were just unable to find stable roommate situations/had a string of roommates stealing from them, moving out before the lease is over, not paying rent etc. Of course a boyfriend can do these things too but actually I think it happens less often than when you have to find completely random roommates on Craigslist or housing groups.
I don't understand why well educated high earning women don't throw these men out earlier either, but I knew so many women like this that it seems like the norm to me. It's just my assumption that they are told 'equality, you're a boss babe, you can be the higher earner' and therefore think that they have better options if they pick men less wealthy or educated than them.
No. 2012669
>>2012664It's not
victim blaming if you aren't a
victim, and you stop being a
victim when you make the active decision to stay with an
abusive man. Because you're choosing to allow him to abuse you by putting yourself in that situation.
No. 2012670
>>2012652You never know how someone else ended up in a situation until you end up in the same kind of situation wondering how you got there. The human brain is a powerful thing and it seeks to normalize all sorts of abnormality and pain. For a lot of people abuse is seen as normal and no cause for concern, they don’t realize how abnormal it is until their on the other side (you’ve probably experienced this yourself). You’re falling into the trap of thinking your experience and subsequent get away is the norm and very easy but there was every chance you wouldn’t have landed on your feet. “Just move in with other women” how does someone do that if it’s not an option? What if they do do that and those women are
abusive? You’re making a lot of assumptions based on your own good fortune, not everyone is you.
No. 2012675
>>2012670This was my first post and the statement I made
>>2012482Let me reiterate,
>you shouldn't have been dating or attempting to get married until you knew that you were capable of supporting and securing yourselfThats not an extremist or unrealistic opinion, either. You shouldn't move in with any man unless you are able to remove yourself from the situation the moment you feel threatened. And in the US, this is extremely easy to do because partners/married couples are not required to have joint bank accounts, so she could easily take her money and leave his ass.
No. 2012677
>>2012670>Nta but you never know until it happens to you Nta but I don’t understand when
victims of abuse claim all women are susceptible to abuse. I’m not and I doubt after 34 years of never being abused by a man it’s suddenly going to happen. Just say that you’re susceptible to it, don’t put us all in that category.
No. 2012682
>>2012669Denying
victims of abuse the status of a
victim is also a part of
victim blaming. Telling people that they're not
victims when they've been abused is the first thing people do kek.
No. 2012687
>>2012682But you do understand that if you're choosing to be abused then you can't really claim that you're a
victim because you are now complacent by deciding to allow this man to commit mortal crimes against you because you willingly live with learned helplessness.
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Not related to this thread in particular although I guess this is a bad time to say it: but I don't think most anons really love (or even care about) women. In fact, a lot of what anon's post here is just misogyny with an "I hate men" veneer on it. I've found this to also be true with some radfem spaces online that I've been in too.
No. 2012709
>>2012693but how are you deciding that it's 'elective' and in what cases? I actually kind of agree with you to some extent (I think I'm somewhere in the middle on this argument) that at some point adults have to learn to be responsible for themselves and that some women do actively choose to stay in shitty relationships for way longer than they should even though they're not scared of retaliation, just because they 'love him' etc. but unless you know someone's life situation really well how can you tell which it is? How do you know that a woman actually recognized the signs of abuse, actually knew how to leave and 'elected' to act helpless rather than being too mentally fucked up by her
abusive home life as a child to understand what's happening to her is dangerous?
It's like with the love bombing topic, some of us naturally recognize love bombing for what it is but many women don't and even in this thread are asking how you tell, precisely because love bombing is shown as a good thing in media targeted at girls from basically the time they're born. Do you think every woman who responds to love bombing positively knows that's what it is?
No. 2012714
>>2012704Samefag
>I've found this to also be true with some radfem spaces online that I've been in too.This is also why you see a lot of radfems fraternizing with fart-right people as long as they dislike trannies. It's moe about disliking men than the welfare of women.
No. 2012718
>>2012709It becomes elective when you are aware of your decisions. Being unable to care for yourself financially and opting to stay with your scrote because he'll open his wallet for you sometimes, is elective. Understanding that your husband speaking ill towards you, hitting you, and abusing you in other fashions is wrong but choosing to stay with him, is elective. Gravitating towards a man because you think he will be the whiteknight to rescue you from your
abusive household, is elective.
No. 2012730
>>2012677I didn’t say abuse nonna, I said situations because fucked up shit can come out of no where and be normalized that have nothing to do with being abused by a romantic partner.
>>2012675Beginning to think this is a turd in the punch bowl situation. Just because someone has their own bank account doesn’t mean they have the money to rent their own place or that a place is available. Anyway if your empathy extends only to your own experiences and you can’t think outside yourself it’s sad but that doesn’t mean those people aren’t
victims.
Unpopular opinion indeed, more like devoid of empathy/humanity.
No. 2012742
>>2012730Once again, feel free to reread my comment but I didn't just say "have their own bank account" I specifically said capable of supporting and securing yourself, which includes having your own money. And its perfectly okay if you disagree with me, but if you willingly live with a man emptyhanded and unprepared to get out if needed, if you choose to stay with a man whos hitting you, if you find it somehow more beneficial to allow yourself to continue being abused than to exercise your freedoms, you are choosing to be abused. thats not being devoid of empathy/humanity at all. my empathy goes towards legitimate
victims who are trapped and suffering, not of their of volition.
No. 2012752
>>2012704I agree with this completely nona and it's why I ended up leaving Ovarit, a lot of the time the 'radfem' takes people had were just an excuse to shit on and look down on other women for the most random reasons. There was a really interesting essay posted in the radfem cows thread on /snow/ from a radical feminist from the mid-1960s who was talking about this in the radfem community back then. It would take too long to find the essay now but to summarize she described the social dynamics of feminist groups back then as specifically 1. punishing women who refused to be nurturing or who were too assertive/stepped out of line for being 'male brained' or 'male aligned', 2. using the kindness of more nurturing empathetic women until they snapped and then punishing them for eventually snapping when their kindness was not reciprocated. I think she mentioned some other specific dynamics as well but there's a long history of radfem and other feminist spaces and movements turning on themselves and resulting in competitive, infighting behaviour.
On lolcow specifically there are plenty of anons who use the fact other anons are straight/want to be in relationships with men to use every ugly moid stereotype against them. It's just women turning on other women and using male-brained reasoning against them because 'if you fraternize with men you deserve it' etc. I've also noticed radfem spaces can be the most hateful toward women who are fat or in some other way not 'naturally' beautiful, even though radfem spaces should be more aware of the fact that your worth isn't in your prettiness or even in your health and that women are more likely to develop chronic illnesses outside of their direct control. It makes sense on lolcow because it's a website devoted to nitpicking women for everything including their appearance, but was really weird on r/GenderCritical or ovarit which are more 'traditional' radfem forums.
Regarding the misandry it often turns out that the most outwardly misandrist women in radfem communities are actually straight pickmes lying about being lesbian while shacking up with
abusive or deadbeat scrotes, so when women online are too extra with their misandry sometimes I assume they're overcompensating. Most women who actually live their lives mostly unburdened by men aren't as obsessive with their male hate. On the other hand I understand that some women are just looking for a community without men because they think it will be more peaceful and accepting, but then can't handle the fact that women are not all nice and empathetic either.
No. 2012753
>>2012706I agree with you nona. I was abused as a child/teen and I got out of it being really confident and good at spotting the signs of abuse, I'm not targeted by
abusive men like other women are and I think there is some level of personal responsibility involved but also due to being abused and knowing how diverse experiences of abuse can be I don't want to fall into the trap of hating and blaming women who had different reactions to abuse than I did.
>>2012712As people pointed out earlier in the discussion, a lot of women get into what seem like good relationships only to find out the man is
abusive much later. Are they also 'making a conscious decision' to get into a bad situation at that point? If they are scared of retaliation for leaving or are tied to the man financially or with children is it always 'elective' to get trapped in that situation? I guess I don't know a lot of women who ever made the conscious decision for a man to completely control their lives, but plenty of women I knew were in
abusive situations with men anyway. They usually didn't start out
abusive or the women didn't recognize the signs that the moid was an abuser.
No. 2012760
>>2012714Unpopular opinion in itself I guess but I think a lot of radfems end up 'associating' with right wingers because they actually think some right wing policies are likely to increase the welfare of women. A lot of radfems think it's the lesser of two evils to work with conservatives on a specific legal issue like trannies even if you don't agree with all their other platforms than to associate with leftist policies that are more directly harmful, or to just keep screaming into the void as a tiny censored community of women that have a hard time getting any political clout.
Personally I associate with people across the political spectrum because I don't like subscribing to binary thinking about politics and I think peaceful civil discussion actually can change people's minds. I know some people whose surface level social media presence looks really 'right wing' but who are actually more feminist and respectful of women than your average leftist in reality and who are willing to talk about these issues calmly and be convinced.
No. 2012766
>>2012748I think you just know a really different type of women than I and some other nonas here do or we're talking about different things because I don't know any women who stopped working to move in with a baby daddy or whatever, the women in
abusive relationships I've seen were in very different situations than this.
No. 2012775
>>2012760A lot alt right ideas are fine (anti troon, anti sex work, etc) but it's how the radfem goes about them is scrotey. Sex work for example is a big one that a lot of radfems get entangled with the alt right with since alt rights logic is that sex workers are just lazy and stupid, a true rad fem would address the issue and acknowledge why a lot of women get into sex work and encourage programs to help escape the said situation, it's the alt right that is out of touch and think getting a job at McDonald's or something would prevent this sort of thing from happening
I guess now alt rights and rad fems are agreeing about their hate boner for traumatized women which all it seemed to accomplish is also shaming women who have been groomed or abused since they were actual kids, the slippery slope is real and scary
No. 2012776
>>2012773Are you a moid tired of abusing broke girls and want to milk them of their money while also being
toxic? I'm confused on why you think poor women aren't allowed to encounter bad men
No. 2012802
>>2012788No
nonny, no one is trying to redirect attention away from the scrotes crimes. You simply have to acknowledge women who choose victimhood, especially as people who was a
victim against their fucking will. There is a world of difference between being a child whos getting molested needing help, and being an adult woman who is choosing to stay in an
abusive relationship because they think its easier than getting a job.
No. 2012804
>>2012775Actually the right wingers I know irl (I'm not American so 'right wing' might mean something slightly different here) including moids are vocally anti-sex work because they look down upon/hate johns and they think it's an
abusive industry, not because they think prostitutes are lazy. I know a lot of right wing moids online have that opinion but in real life the conservatives I know have more 'rad fem' like views on sex work. Some of them even volunteer for or donate to programs that help sex workers escape and retrain. I think right wingers who are prominent on the internet (especially Americans) are usually pretty disgusting misogynists but irl I haven't noticed the same thing in my social milieu.
No. 2012810
>>2012797I know women do it but I've also seen a lot of anons admit to letting their shitty discord bfs lurk on lolcow, which has got me questioning how many of these guilty moids come on here in attempt to make their
victims feel bad about speaking out. Women are typically only defensive of
abusive moids if they're family/friends/partners (like the other anon pointed out in the thread)
No. 2012811
>>2012799Being broke can make your social issues worse. It’s gonna feel 10x worse upset about a scrote when you’re about to be evicted. If you’re rich you can go to brunch and cry with your other rich girlies and taking a shopping trip to relax. When you’re broke you can’t even afford to relax by going to McDonald’s and you have a
toxic scrote breaking what little shit you do have. To me relationship issues are something frivolous for rich girls who have nothing else to worry about.
No. 2012814
>>2012802Strange, throughout the hours of infighting the anons who hate abused women haven't said a single negative thing about
abusive men. Had plenty of disgusting things to say about female
victims though
No. 2012818
>>2012814Because this is an unpopular opinion thread. Everyone already knows men are
abusive assholes, no one’s gonna disagree with that.
No. 2012819
>>2012814Probably because our conversation is about women who
choose to stay with
abusive men. That doesn't make you an abuse
victim, it makes you complacent.
No. 2012822
>>2012818>Everyone already knows men are abusive assholes, no one’s gonna disagree with that.Regardless of the justification, you DID redirect attention off of the much needed shaming of
abusive scrotes to focus on how stupid the
victims are. And repeating "everyone knows!" doesn't change anything especially since moids who abuse women face no consequences and typically have family and friends that back them up non stop, now they even have strangers on the internet to silence their
victims for them. Maybe in my next life I'll be an
abusive scrote and I'll get defended this much
No. 2012824
>>2012819No, the conversation also talked about how many women don't want to stay with
abusive men but are tricked by abusers who seem like good men to start, fear retaliation, fear homelessness. There seem to be only one or two anons insisting that women always 'choose'
abusive relationships.
No. 2012825
>>2012819If peoples first reaction to female on male abuse was to question why the
victim stayed/remove sympathy because he stayed id start abusing as many moids as I can
No. 2012828
>>2012822NTA but what exactly would you like for us to do? Change the topic of conversation because you don't like what we're discussing? Also, once again, not a single one of us have defended
abusive men. Not once. We've simply stated that choosing to stay with
abusive men revokes you from being a
victim, because you are now complacent. It is simple math.
No. 2012834
>>2012824Those were the responses to the original post, not the topic at hand. The topic at hand is women who choose to stay with
abusive men, or irresponsibly move in with/get married to men who they barely know because they're putting on the prince charming act. That was a sliver of the conversation, anon.
No. 2012835
>>2012828>We're not defending them, we're just removing the fact he victimized you aka relieving him from the accountability Idk why it's so hard for you to understand trying to remove the "
victim" status from someone is literally relieving the abuser from accountability
No. 2012839
>>2012822Not all abuse
victims are isolated with no one to turn to. Sometimes they don’t want help from friends and family or they put their friends and family in danger for the scrote. For example my sister ran to my house to get away from her scrote after a bad argument, she tells him where I live, he comes over and attacks her and punches me in the mouth, the police come and she’s crying and begging the cops not to take him and guess what they’re still together. Cps said she can’t get her kid back until her scrote leaves the house and guess here they are? In foster care. Some people just don’t want to be around the drama women in love with
abusive men bring.
No. 2012843
>>2012835No, it isn't relieving the abuser of anything, actually. The abuser is still committing
abusive acts and real crimes, however if you're willing to have a crime committed against you, you're no longer a
victim. You are an accomplice to covering up their crimes and putting other women in his immediate surroundings in a dangerous position by allowing a disgusting brute to walk the streets instead of turning him in and leaving his ass.
No. 2012845
>>2012834It seems like you really want the topic at hand to be 'women who are with abusers all actively and irresponsibly chose this' but everyone else is arguing that that's not true/not the norm.
>>2012828Saying an abuse
victim isn't a
victim because abuse is 'chosen' quite literally is absolving the abusers of responsibility by equating being an abuser with 'choosing' to be abused and saying both parties are equally responsible.
No. 2012852
>>2012845Anon, thats not how that works. Just because someone is not a
victim of a crime does not mean a crime was not committed, the
abusive party is still responsible for what he's done, however when you're choosing to stay with this man and keep him safe from accountability, you are now equally responsible and opting for abuse. You're no longer a
victim at that point.
No. 2012853
>>2012839I knew abused women who were like this too
nonny. It is hard to help them when they're in that situation, maybe you even do think they're stupid or low of them but with proper help they do recover and leave. Treating them like they're the actual villains just seems to push them back into the arms of their abuser
No. 2012857
>>2012844>Are these anons going to start standing outside of prisons demanding the abusers get released because the woman stayed?Well there aren't as many abusers in prison as there
could be because their wives and girlfriends are already demanding that they be spared prison to begin with, so..
No. 2012860
>>2012850Are you talking about a specific person you know?
>>2012852So what is the court going to do if there's no
victim? That makes no sense, you can't charge someone with abuse if you believe there's no
victim. You can think lowly of the
victim yeah but trying to remove them of victimhood will just result in courts pulling the whole "welp I guess no one is a
victim charges dropped"
No. 2012861
>>2012853One of my best friends was like this but I wasn't directly in danger because her abuser was a woman. It took her 3 years of acting like a total idiot and constantly taking out her
abusive situation on me and drawing me into her drama for her to leave, but she did leave and has spent many years since then working on herself and not letting people fuck her over anymore. There were many moments where I wanted to end the friendship and even a couple where I temporarily did end it, but in the end she told me that me sticking with her was the biggest catalyst for her to realize she was being abused and leave. I probably would not have stayed in the friendship if it was a dangerous moid doing that to her because I would feel at risk too, but sometimes a situation like that is just a step in the learning process. Lots of women have to experience abuse at some point to be able to learn how to recognize it and stand up for themselves.
No. 2012867
>>2012860You're getting stuck on the actual word
victim. I'm not saying that they were not the party who was on the receiving end of this crime, because they are. So long as they show up in court and testify against the
abusive man, the cogs of some kind of justice start to turn. I'm saying
victim in the sense that, when you choose to be a part of the crimes this man is committing, you're complacent. You're allowing him to use you as a punching bag. You aren't a "
victim" anymore, you're just a product of his
abusive nature. He can still be sent to prison, if these women did not choose to be complacent and actually reported them to the authorities.
No. 2012873
>>2012802>nonnyStop trying to act cute while you’re shitting on abuse
victims.
No. 2012874
>>2012867My issue is that for every woman who actually is complacent in her abuse there are probably several more but who are treated like they are. A good example is the Jian Ghomeshi case a few years back where some celebrity scrote had 40+
victims come out saying he randomly punched and choked them, in some cases hospitalizing them. Most of them were not even in a relationship with him at all. But because a couple of these women kept up cordial relationships with him afterwards the media painted all the
victims as willing/complicit in 'rough sex' (many of the beatings did not involve sex and were not domestic) or 'kink.' The idea that women can be complacent in abuse is what allows predators like this to walk free.
No. 2012875
>>2012869But I’m talking about my situation as an example. A lot of the time being around women with
abusive scrotes is dangerous because they want to go back and then he comes to the person trying to help and attacks or kills them and she just sits there crying like a damsel while you’re getting choked out. That’s usually why women in
abusive relationships have no friends or family to turn to because they get sick of her shit. My mom does not even let women rent in her house anymore for this reason.
No. 2012876
>>2012867By removing
victim status it's not going to go in the way you think anon, most courts are already extremely defensive of
abusive men and proving DV is pretty hard, you can't even charge them for emotional/psychological abuse ffs. Trying to claim the women aren't actually
victims will just give the courts an upper hand. I get where you're going but it is NOT going in the way that you think. I get you're trying to tough love or whatever but this would only work in a society where most
abusive men are held accountable, unfortunately this isn't the case
No. 2012886
>>2012873you're not an abuse
victim if you're allowing it. this is the unpopular opinions thread. if you see an opinion you don't like, go to a thread thats more fun.
No. 2012887
>>2012882>upper middle class suburban familyKek that explains the lack of empathy. Your family’s fucked up, people like your sister don’t just sprout up out of nowhere. Quit projecting your issues with her onto all other women in
abusive situations.
No. 2012890
>>2012876I think you're misunderstanding. The court will still read her status as the '
victim' of his crimes, because he did still commit crimes. However, in actuality, women who do choose to stay with these men are not
victims. This is also reaffirmed by the fact that most of these women
do not attempt to turn their moids in, because they LoVe hIm!!1 too much.
No. 2012891
>>2012882Shouldn't you be focused on making money instead of worrying about scrotes anon? Why'd you let him punch you and stay around? You're no
victim go make money
No. 2012896
>>2012892You can't wrap your mind around someone using romance and intimacy to heavily manipulate and brainwash someone? Weird, no wonder your sister got into an
abusive relationship because you and your family were too stupid to teach about literally the most common tactic these moids get women to stick around
No. 2012901
>>2012893No I've lived a long life and yeah, it's because they love him or 'don't want to take their childrens father away', or don't want to open up a custody battle, which are all even more pathetic because you're now choosing to not only let your husband harm you but other people in your life by letting this rabid dog loose instead of calling animal control. If your husband just beat you up, you can call the police and they'll be much more likely to believe
YOU over the scrote with bruises on his knuckles. At least in burgerland, police officers and court justice systems often do rule in favor of women when they are able to provide evidence, which is simple in this day and age since you can record everything (audio, video) on your phone without people noticing.
No. 2012902
>>2012896>you should sacrifice your own health and well being for someone who clearly shows they don’t care if you live or dieI’m not gonna do that which is probably why I’ve never been in a
abusive relationship.
No. 2012907
>>2012896Yeah unfortunately men scamming women with 'romance' and lovebombing (both directly and indirectly via romantic media) is one of the main pillars of how women as a class remain subjugated in society, I understand being frustrated with handmaidens who continue to cape for
abusive scrotes and not wanting them around you in your personal life but if you can't wrap your head around how or why it happens your view is extremely naive and blinkered.
No. 2012909
>>2012903I’m the anon who got punched. I’m not the anon you’re replying to. Why is it you can’t feel bad for a woman who got attacked trying to help a woman in a
abusive relationship but you think I’m supposed to feel bad for someone whose scrote could’ve murdered me and she would still be with him?
No. 2012910
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Okay can you guys slow down and explain what you mean by abuse victims "allowing it"? If there's kids involved but the spouse insists on staying, my patience would wither because come the fuck on, you can't be that delusional to think getting punched every other day is a healthy environment to raise a child in. If the victim is delusional enough to think their obviously depressed and affected child will be okay with such an environment and dont make any attempt to get the kid out, they're a strain on the child's health too regardless of their intention.
No. 2012914
>>2012910sheltered NEET-chans who think they got abused in 4th grade because a boy called them ugly think domestic abuse
victims are choosing to stay in a shitty relationship instead of being homeless and being prey to sex work/drug addiction/mental illness (and then when it happens ofc it's their fault)
No. 2012915
>>2012903if they didn't want to experience that every day, they would turn him in. plain and simple. there isn't any logical reason to stay with him. we've gone over every possible response in the book, i'm sure you also silently agree that choosing to be hit by a man is not being a
victim, its electively being his punching bag. end of story. if you did not want to be a
victim, you would try to remove yourself from the situation. if you put yourself in that situation without any way to leave, then yeah, that is your own fault. because you chose not to protect yourself and expected a man to do it for you.
No. 2012917
>>2012909Because you're using your specific situation to put down all women who are being abused, why should I feel bad for you too? How do I know all women who got assaulted aren't trying to remove help and empathy for other
victims?
No. 2012919
>>2012909If you knew he was
abusive then why were you even near him at all? Sounds like you wanted to get punched.
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this is what moderation did by not allowing scrotefoiling. we have scrotes rn victim blaming people who go through DV and can't even point out the scrottery of it all. the absolute state of this board.
No. 2012934
>>2012924Don’t try to put this on me, that’s what you say to other women, they knew their man was
abusive but still stuck around so they deserved to get hit. You knew your sisters, boyfriend was
abusive but still hung around him so you deserved it.
No. 2012951
>>2012942those women are mentally ill and on a mindset that 100% does not favor them. I dislike the regular handmaiden or tradthot as much as the next farmer but this mindset only breeds vitriol for women who already have it bad. if you know someone like this keep your distance, show support but don't tell them what to do. often abusers will use the fact people don't support their relationship to further isolate
victims. we should avoid isolating
victims as much as we can.
No. 2012953
>>2012945You shouldn’t be in that situation if you’re on birth control and using condoms. If you’re in a place where abortion is legal, get an abortion.
>inb4 there’s a 1% chance of birth control failing!Then be celibate until you graduate and have the money to support a child. Get a rose toy to get off.
No. 2012959
>>2012943i'm never saying a woman deserves abuse, i'm never saying a male is right, and i'm not even saying it's entirely her fault as she's just operating under the programming that's been instilled in her from the womb, but i
have seen women have kids for the sole purpose of appeasing their male partner. and i'd argue that most births throughout history, world-wide, were the result of rape or women HAVING to have children to continue the line or whatever so it's not really a novel concept in the modern day
No. 2012968
>>2012962I’m not talking about women in 3rd world situations. I’m talking about American women, I can’t speak on women from other countries because I’m not there. If you’re an American woman, who isn’t raised in a cult, you don’t have crazy strict foreign parents with Islamic values then there’s no reason for you to have babies in a
abusive relationship. The average white American woman has no excuse or reason to do that.
No. 2012970
>>2012932Yesterday, women are ugly. Today, women getting abused aren't even
victims.
Tomorrow, probably something about women being whores. That's me placing my bet
No. 2012979
>>2012974I guess you don't believe women can grow out from trauma and start identifying
abusive patterns they previously did not. the women in your life must be pretty fucking bad if that's your standard opinion. or you just hate women I guess.
No. 2012985
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>>2012964not to play devil's advocate too much but i feel these conversations are always about women in the west and not third worlders
>>2012966>if someone has a choice, they will always choose the better situation for themselvesi mean, not always, some women are just very stupid (like picrel – left him like a million times only to return and have a kid with a guy she knew was a methhead). i think out of every class it's only ever the woman who advocates for her own degradation so much. from onlyfans models to your friend who won't stop calling herself a bad bitch, it's insane and blackpilling
https://twitter.com/MomsPostingLs/status/1792020325586157841>or bc they're not able to identify that choicethis is not a good excuse past a certain age. coddling isn't the way
No. 2012999
>>2012985KEKKK omg i saw this video too..perfect example of elective helplessness and choosing abuse. There are many cow examples of this, and im sure you could go on tiktok right now and likely find another video just like this.
>>2012992yes my bad nonners i tagged the wrong one
No. 2013002
>>2012994you don't even need to go that far to see women conditioned to think they're incomplete unless they get married. it's everywhere in social media, you have to be blind to not see it. whenever a woman makes a post saying anything about being independent she's shat on and people say she will die alone and her career is not worth it.
>>2012997I can tell you're either 20 living with parents or the wrong chromosome to not realize how fucking ignorant you are. it's just not worth it, life will teach you.
No. 2013006
>>2012996Yeah I see a lot of anons saying 'past a certain point in adulthood trauma, social conditioning, religion, culture, family, peer pressure, etc' is not an excuse but the whole history of humanity is based on us being intensely conformist social animals not individual lone wolves. Basically no human can survive completely on their own and women who live in societies and are fed certain messages from birth by those societies are not individually at fault for falling for that social conditioning. It's everyone's responsibility to try to break out of it if you realize it's harmful (which many people don't) but even then that can take years or decades. Your average normie young woman is not hanging out on lolcow getting constant blackpills about male nature she's hanging out at her church BBQ and with her school friends who coo about cute men in romcoms and thinks the happiest day in her life is her wedding day. She's been told by every male relative since she was old enough to comprehend language that the greatest fulfilment and happiness in her life comes from romance and babies. She sees her friends grinding at shitty jobs being abused by shitty moid bosses and thinks it would be better to get financial help from a man who actually cares about her than some
abusive boomer scrote in a suit at her job who stares at her ass when she walks into the meeting room. She's probably seen some women who appear to be genuinely happy and fulfilled in marriages with kids and thinks if she's smart and picks a prince charming moid of her own she will have that too. Also most young women are looking to their boomer parents for examples and financial/economic prospects were really different for that gen, they might not realize how different things are now if they're not a sperg about economics.
No. 2013007
>>2012999Nta but I saw this earlier. She’s 22 and been taking care of a man 10 years older than her for a decade and cries about abuse then the next day she’s talking about she’s never gonna leave her man and everyone can stfu. And these are the people I’m supposed to feel bad for?
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>>2013001i partially agree but i also really feel kids should be treated as luxury items + you don't even need to think of having one unless you've been financially stable for a few years and have savings. i mean the world has been fucked since 2017ish easily. read the writing on the wall and have some sense, wrap that shit up
No. 2013013
>>2013004Proving that other anon's point that 'feminist' posters on sites like this are usually just looking for excuses to act moidbrained and shit on women while pretending to be misandrist.
I'm the anon who said my mom had me when daycare was heavily subsidized but 2-3 years later austerity hit and daycare became extremely expensive, how was she supposed to magically predict the change in government and economic conditions? When she entered grad school there was a program that if you got certain grades your entire tuition/loan amount would be paid back by the government upon completion but by her 2nd year of grad school they suddenly ended the program without grandfathering it in and she was already over 20k in debt.
No. 2013016
>>2013006exactly. when you socialize with normies (not even only women, men are too conditioned to get married, but for them, there are countless benefits, statistically they earn more, do less domestic chores, live longer, while it's the opposite for women), everyone is expected to at least get married at some point. nonnies don't realize even being single in your 30s is taboo in west because they don't really interact with normal functional people on a daily basis. most people are expected to have a nuclear family by the time they are 35 no matter where they are. people who are single in their 30s with no family building prospects are considered a leech on most societies, because deep inside everyone knows they are not popping kids to contribute with future pensions and are spending their money friviously traveling or hobbies, something people with kids wish they could still do and envy. I'm not saying it is the right mindset but it is what it is.
No. 2013036
>>2013025>postyou get it. don't have a child with the expectation to rely on public services/tax payer money/favors from other people, ensure that if shit hits the fan
you (and your partner) can provide well. you don't need to have a child, nobody does kek
No. 2013042
>>2013016Yeah I'm basically a normie social butterfly who just has been a little too online for fun my whole life (but I don't admit it irl where I seem extremely normal and functional) and it's obvious a lot of lolcow nonnies don't have normal offline social experiences when I see some of their takes on why women in reality do the things they do. I agree with a lot of the misandrist perspectives on lolcow but I also see how normie women go through the world and they're literally never exposed to the kinds of views you see on lolcow, they are completely inundated with social messaging their whole lives and probably would be shocked to find out that the kind of views you normally see on lolcow even exist. The other thing with normie women is that actually a lot of them do end up pretty happy even if they get married and have children, maybe not most of them but enough that other normie women see them and think 'oh, that could be me.'
The abuse conversation is interesting for me because I don't let moids or friends fuck me around or abuse me, even emotionally, and have always been extremely assertive and self-protective in that way, but I ended up being severely workplace-abused due to my focus on achievement, career, money. I actually did not have any of the coping skills to even recognize that it was workplace abuse at first because I was raised thinking earnings and education were of the utmost importance and I should do everything to meet my goals. Even when I realized it was workplace abuse I ended up feeling helpless looking at women who were seemingly making 'worse' life choices but were avoiding abuse from their bosses, because I had spent so long being indoctrinated into certain attitudes about work and education I literally couldn't figure out how to stand up for myself at work and couldn't even imagine quitting a job or educational program because I was being mistreated and exploited. Women will look at other women like me who were exploited at work or in education and think that we are the dumb ones for not just chilling out, marrying a moid and being taken care of and I don't even blame them sometimes. The women I know who decided to relax and let males financially support them are now in many cases much more comfortable and financially better off than I am and my mom constantly crows about how she TOLD me I should be focusing on marrying a man for money instead of pursuing higher ed and an elite job.
No. 2013047
>>2013040Most white American women aren’t going to lose friends and family because she decides to not marry an
abusive scrote. At most she’s gonna get nagged from her mom begging for grand kids or she’s gonna have friends who feel bad for her trying to hook her up with an ugly scrote they know but nothing extreme like being honor killing is gonna happen to us.
No. 2013051
>>2013039>shaming women for not being fortune tellers i mean when i was 16 (in like 2015) the governemnt was shutting down every other week + i lived through the worldwide recession caused by covid + a few other financial crises, etc. etc. etc. the next guy that rules over my country is either going to be a retard or a racist retard, you know?
you don't really need to be a prophet to know and see that this world is bad if you do not have paper stacked up somewhere. just watch the news, check you finances, and if you realize the inflation that's been taking place over your entire life is showing no sign of slowing down (and it's also kicking your ass) then don't……..have kids? not that hard
No. 2013057
>>2013051>you*your
>>20130491. not every pregnancy is the result of rape or coercion
2. i'm specifically thinking of first world countries where you can get a condom at every gas station. condoms are cheap. if condoms are too expensive then go for celibacy or non penetrative sex
>>2013055no argument. 2015 is not recent
No. 2013061
>>2013047what the fuck you think that happens when you're socially ostracized by your own family? I guess you're like that frog boiling in the kettle but take a look at your life, does your family give a fuck about you? I'm going to guess not. families don't care about people who don't have kids and I'm tired of pretending people can rely on their families or even participate being the "weird aunt/uncle". people think exactly that, you're the "weird aunt/uncle" and at best will try to use you for free child labor. don't reply if you're not above the age of 30, this conversation is about adulthood.
>>2013042>Women will look at other women like me who were exploited at work or in education and think that we are the dumb ones for not just chilling out, marrying a moid and being taken care of and I don't even blame them sometimesI think most people want to think they have better than others who took a different direction in life without realizing not everything is for everyone. it's strikingly common seeing people with kids who are seemingly miserable and tired 24/7 but when you point out this is why you're hesitant about having your own kids they will immediately change their tune and say their children are their biggest blessing. I tend to try to not look down on people who have different lifestyles than I do, but most people have no issue doing it and even being extremely judgemental.
No. 2013073
>>2013066you're either being willfully ignorant or you're actually autistic. there is a sea of nuance between being socially ostracized and honor killed.
>>2013071not having kids is the desirable lifestyle right now because we're in a fucking recession and nobody can afford shit. in a normal economy most people desire a normal nuclear family save for the people who simply don't want children.
No. 2013087
>>2013075the defective chromosome itt probably doesn't have enough braincells to realize that even if we do everything by the book we're still at risk of being abused. then when we do everything right and something goes wrong, we still get blamed for it. women absolutely can't win.
>>2013077>>2013084you'd get absolutely blasted for having an abortion though.
No. 2013098
>>2013095soo your relatives are sitting next to you every single day asking if you got your period? they're making you take pregnancy tests every moment? they're tracking your ovulatory cycles? having pushover relatives doesn't mean you have to tell them anything, let alone the truth kek
>>2013096but why would you tell someone to begin with
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>NOOO what do you MEAN i'm retarded for having a kid when i have 300 dollars in savings a boyfriend who's high 24/7 and works at target and 40k debt in student loans?! IT'S NOT MY FAULT THAT I'M STRUGGLING I CAN'T PREDICT THE FUTURE IT'S THE GOVERNMENT'S REEEEEE DON'T CRITICIZE ME (no kpop)
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I would date Meg just to make her feel loved.
No. 2013115
>>2013106>they would noticeno, they actually arent capable of confirming anything? at all..
>women are not encouraged to leave home unless they get married we're still talking about America, in case you forgot
>how would you explain the pain/bleeding?you don't? because it isn't their business. i've had an abortion before and no one could smell it on me or magically tell that i was in pain kek.
No. 2013117
>>2013110i'm sorry you had an
abusive mother nonna but that is not normal or commonplace, which i'm sure you know.
No. 2013120
>>2013113>utahfag >defending religious people>If you're 18 weeks, 0 days pregnant or less, it is legal for you to get an abortion in Utah. Although Utah bans abortion after 18 weeks, 0 days, many providers stop offering abortion earlier in pregnancy. you'd be forced to give birth because by the time you'd notice you're pregnant you're too late. congrats, mommy!
get the fuck out of here
>>2013115do you even menstruate? I'm going to guess no.
No. 2013122
>>2013115I don't know who unilaterally decided that this conversation on an international website can only be about 6th generation white americans but it probably shouldn't be.
I had my mom take me to a doctor to check if I was pregnant before because of a gastric issue that was causing vomiting lmao there are signs of pregnancy that can be noticed by other people.
No. 2013150
>>2013134I'm not American I'm European and live in a 'wealthy' country and am not from an Islamic culture and it's not abnormal here at all for many of my female friends, sorry. I also am not interested in limiting all conversations to American White Women Only.
>>2013136You or other anons are responding to posts saying that financially stable middle class people can get easily destabilized by economic situations outside of their control so children are 'luxury items' lmao, I am not supporting people with no income having children but the whole point is that financially stable people can suddenly be unable to easily afford children just because of sudden economic or legal changes, disability, being laid off etc. People in this position make up like 95-98% of the population of wealthy countries. If you should only have children when you can absolutely guarantee financial stability for the next 18 years that rules out everyone except the top 0.1 to 1 percent.
No. 2013164
>>2013153your parents going through your trash can is not normal, we've already been over this kek. and when you have an abortion its not like they can tell or smell the blood.
>>2013154 living with your parents does not mean they should be tracking your cycle..
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watching this infight
No. 2013184
>>2013174I get that but other anons were trying to make it seem like it’s normal for the average American or Canadian woman to have their trash searched through for used pads and tampons, for their friends and family to disown them for not marrying
abusive scrotes and having their babies or for being single. The average white American woman isn’t getting treated like some Muslim girl in Syria.
No. 2013194
>>2013178we're in very late stage capitalism and our cultural and political situation has become so seperated and
problematic that we cant all possibly peak again. Everyone is in some shape depressed or anxious and can't stand the life we live now, plus they keep pushing the AI and VR models onto us so I don't think we will get into a good place again. WallE is a more realistic take of what may happen
No. 2013199
>>2013188your individual opinion doesn't represent an entire generation though. bullying is even worse now as technology means you can bully someone online or edit their pictures or worse.
the 90s/00s in all its mistakes was still a peak for us as humans and the mistakes then i would still pick over the mistakes we make now.
No. 2013208
>>2013203it started here
>>2012960moved here
>>2012964and was specified here
>>2012967 No. 2013211
>>2013205>That’s not that common or average experience for most women in Canada thoughsaid who?
>>2013208I don't think one post can dictate the center of the conversation but I guess it comes naturally for white americans to dictate what is being talked about.
No. 2013228
>>2013214So this was the post that started the whole conversation that later on devolved into pregnancy :
>>2012482This conversation is about women who are capable of providing for themselves, able to understand right from wrong, and are
consensually entering and staying in relationships
of their own volition. Not immigrant babies who are afraid of their parents.
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Would it be an unpopular opinion to say Jerma just isn't hot?
No. 2013253
>>2013249nonny at the very beginning of this conversation the word
woman was used,
women needing to protect and support themselves. not teenage girls. young ladies were only brought up after the conversation turned to peer-pressured pregnancy and your parents obsessively tracking your period.
No. 2013254
>>2013170Nah 2000s films were awful, especially the trend of parody films and nasty sex comedies. and no I don't think modern films are better, though I do like how more people online are at least willing to call out pedo "jokes", pedo directors,
abusive directors, etc. Like even though that shit is still normalized I can at least find somewhere to vent about it, in the 2000s it felt almost taboo to bring it up because "hurr it's just a joke" was always the excuse, there was hardly anywhere to discuss these things. Plus the 90s with that trend of "teenage girl characters seducing poor innocent men"
>>2013173this is the real truth
No. 2013257
>>2013181Bad moms, bad moms, whatcha gonna do? whatcha gonna do when nons sperg bout you? Bad moms, bad moms whatcha gonna do?
Strap in, it might last another hour or 2
No. 2013280
>>2013254people are still cokehead pedophiles? we even accept trannies now which are the ultimate pedos.
You picked out one genre of 2000s films and based that on a whole generation, we actually had some amazing genres of films in the 2000s, it was so good back then that even the oscars were worth watching. You could put on the TV and something fun would be on. I miss clubbing in that era too, people used to be so much fun and without phones it was way better
No. 2013294
>>2013291that wasn't a knock on pickled beets
nonnie kek i love fermented veggies, its just the first russki food i thought of
No. 2013295
>>2013277I think it's fine if you're doing it to help out aging parents, get help with child care or save up for a home. it's stupid if your parents are
abusive though and you still choose to be there
No. 2013302
>>2013295I think most people with
abusive parents would choose to move out if they could, but many don't have that option financially honestly.
No. 2013305
>>2013297It's a lot easier to separate from your parents in your 30s than it is to separate from an
abusive partner
No. 2013312
>>2013305Depends on how bad it is honestly. I did
sex work and split an apartment with a bunch alcoholics just to get out. Ofc I was extremely desperate and my parents were literally trying to kill me. I'd hope no one was being as severely abused they had to resort to what I did to survive
No. 2013316
>>2013308>criticize the pedoshitare you just referring to that one movie that came about about shneider?
because we now live in a place where pedophiles, sex abuse, porn abuse, trannies are more rampant. Its worse than before, not better.
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>>2013271I've seen people theorize that's why the wealthy/rich apparently often live together like lion prides; sharing a home is a method people use to save money, since taking care of a home all by yourself is going to be harder than splitting the bills with someone you trust/team with. Nobody moves out or ventures off the owned land, so nobody has to worry about money really going to bills for an entirely different home. They have wealth, and they wanna
keep that wealth.
No. 2013326
>>2013302I'm curious if the same anons saying abused gfs and wives are allowing it and should just move out/find a way/pay their own way etc.. apply the same logic to adults living with
abusive parents.
No. 2013330
>>2013316>>2013321I'm talking about what I said here
>>2013254. Idk how to explain it any better..I mean like when talking to regular people irl and online
No. 2013337
>>2013327>Also the trend of women dressing like kids to pander to men is at a high as well. I see it on TikTok all the time
No. 2013346
>>2013332Adult living with adult/s, being abused, staying in the
abusive situation. It's comparible.
No. 2013350
>>2013332It's usually not as simple as this though, some women move out with a boyfriend (who is employed) to split rent as a way of escaping
abusive parents, some women move in with a boyfriend while having their own job who treats them well and becomes
abusive later, these things can 'fill your wallet' more than living with
abusive parents who charge you rent for living in their house and control all your actions can and you can't always predict when a moid will become
abusive. I took a chance living with a boyfriend random male friends after high school instead of my parents and they were lovely, helpful, non-
abusive (even when I broke up with the BF shortly after he was still great to live with and it was a drama-free breakup). I only learned later that this was rare. I thought I might kill myself if I kept living in my parents' home and they were demanding rent from me higher than what I paid to split an apartment.
No. 2013351
>>2013346No, its not comparable at all. You sought out the man and chose to stay with him. Your parents were assigned to you and you were
forced to live with them.
No. 2013356
>>2013330Samefag I mean how nowadays there's sites like this where we can point out that the celebrities "joking" about those things weren't joking at all. When I pointed out that stuff in the past I'd get accused of "being no fun" or taking it too seriously.
All the shit Ashton kutcher said for example wouldn't fly today, famous, public men (not just online) counting down to the Oslen twins turning 18, etc and all those people who defended Polanski. They'd still do it today obviously, just in a less open way
No. 2013363
>>2013356Huh back then I think I was on a lot more websites similar to lolcow now, that's actually why I'm on lolcow in my 30s because it reminds me of the forums I used to go to back then. Even shit like certain neopets boards were mostly girls/young women in the early 2000s and you could actually shame creeps and talk about how creepy shit was without anyone shaming you for not being enough of a compassionate leftist. When I was growing up both on the internet and irl people would actually shame and mock people for degeneracy, being coomer freaks or creeps and almost everyone would agree, now you'll get dogpiled. And forums like the neoboards when I was a kid or proboards forums often had moderation that deleted most depraved shit off the forums, now you can't even have that on insta or twitter.
Nona sorry to break it to you but famous male celebs these days counted down Billie Eilish and Millie Bobby Brown turning 18 too. Celebs today still openly defend Polanski, Weinstein, etc. It's not better.
No. 2013374
>>2013367As cliche as it sounds I think most people need a "crazy phase" once they live on their own. Go clubbing every night, do drugs, spontaneous road trips, go explore abandoned houses or something, etc. A lot of people, for whatever reason (not judging) have to delay living on their own until their later years end up not growing up all the way or don't develop the same street smarts or social skills the same way someone who had a "party phase" did
I also feel like this is why a lot of college grads become very mature in their 30s, where as people who had to grow up too fast or weren't given chances to explore end up acting like high schoolers until they're 60
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>>2013332I both agree and disagree with you, but what I will also say is that the subject of abuse, what it means to be a
victim, and the different forms of control are definitely subjects that seem too complicated for the average farmer to really understand or even just maturely talk about. Like, it went from abuse, to pregnancy, to American white women.
No. 2013398
>>2013395It’s true. Autistic kids destroy their parents lives because their parents try to be gentle parents who don’t yell at them and spank them because they think they’re fragile because they’re retarded and they end up destroying their families home and sending them to an early death. All of this could’ve been avoided by spanking them.
No. 2013458
>>2013454I did say healthy boundaries anon. You're describing a
toxic relationship and a lack of independence.
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>>2013463British people need to integrate (with the normal English-speaking world) and stop saying mummy. Just a bunch of pharaonic bitches, next you'll start trying to communicate in hieroglyphs.
No. 2013477
>>2013464No anon you don't get it I don't have a brain because mummy and daddy are my brain!! Thankfully I never have to think for myself because mummy and daddy are there to help me solve any problem I have so I never have to think!! If I do something wrong mummy and daddy will make it better too so I never have to worry!! That's why I love mummy and daddy's house!!
>>2013467That's why I'm happy I'm the eldest!! My other siblings all had to leave mummy and daddy and go to live their own lives without mummy and daddy it's so sad for them, now they have friends they can see at any time of the day, have their own places to clean up, have to cook their own food when they want, have fulfilling romantic relationships without having to rent motel rooms to fuck, it's all so horrible sounding!! What would mummy and daddy think?!?!? To live on your own, to be left to your own devices, so horrid!! Mummy and daddy know that I'm here until the day they die so they never have to think about their own lives because I am their life! They never have to worry about selling the house to go abroad or retire someplace else or move into a new stage of their lives, thank goodness, because I'm here and I'm mummy and daddy's special girl!!
>>2013468Hurrah!! Now you and your fiance can live with your mummy and daddy!! Now you can all four be together forever and be in love with mummy and daddy to watch over you forever and always!! Hurrah!!
(extreme autism) No. 2013480
>>2013477I'm not sure if I'm reading between the lines but are you trying to insinuate their childish?
Is one if the moid lurkers from the 4chan dating app taking his female larp to the extreme. Let's see
No. 2013496
>>2013492Kek it's not an argument it's making fun of you
>>2013494Thanks I took acting classes at my local community college in 2016
No. 2013505
>>2013504No need to
trigger your cycle early
No. 2013515
>>2013513Thank you for explaining Ms Tumblr
>>2013511No but why would LC
trigger my cycle?? Odd
No. 2013522
>>2013518Yes since I dropped out of middle school because I couldn't understand long division I've always been very insecure about my education. Even me, loser retard, can live on my own though outside my parent's house, somehow. But alas I am but a humble middle school drop out, I'm no match for your psychoanalysis. You broke me!
>>2013519Yes I am very stressed out, making fun on LC is my biggest stressor in life even more so than my bills and job. How did you know?!
No. 2013534
>>2013529How did you know I spend 3 hours online every day??? You must be a psychoanalyst and a psychic!!! You should write a book!!
>>2013530Yeah exactly!! When my husband died in Afghanistan (left me because I was stupid enough to ever touch a scrote) I moved back in right away to make my mum raise my children for me. It's called being fair! She was already a mum anyway so it's great because I can go out and party while she takes care of the kids! So fair. Love her.
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>>2013540Well to be fair, the sperg has an unpopular opinion we can only applaud her kek
No. 2013556
>>2013540>>2013550>furry commission>naiveIs that possible?
Her brothers happened to pick feminine dominated field ofc they fail at it. They can't compete with us.
No. 2013562
>>2013543Please only join if you're black. It's a fun site, and you can actually have interesting discussions with fonts on various topics. The posters there are way funnier, too. My favorite thread at the moment is the Beyonce conspiracy thread; it's hilarious even if I don't really care for Beyonce.
>>2013552From what I've seen, most pickme fonts get disliked. The fonts in the child thread are weirdos that you can put on ignore.
No. 2013576
>>2013550I'm getting a degree in Business Analytics and am working as a secretary at a company in biking distance to my house. I am getting my license this Autumn and am saving up to buy my dream car
a used Penske panel van.
>>2013562I am black, only reason I haven't joined is because I don't know if I want to actively post there.
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>>2013586Here we go again
No. 2013595
>>2013589How much finger sweat must i lose, terabytes of screenshots must i own, and how many hours must i spend to get to the deep lolcow?
You're right it's probably not worth my sanity…
No. 2013654
>>2013648victim of a crime ≠ willingly choosing to be a whore because you think its easy money. More and more american women are
choosing sex work because they're lazy and its pathetic. I don't feel an ounce of sadness for them.
No. 2013662
>>2013659I didn't say OF girls, I said sex work as a whole. That includes literal prostitution, online sex work, escorting, etc. Choosing to do that when the poor women who are kidnapped and forced into such situations, when
you still have the freedom to find a real job and create a career…it is abhorrent.
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>>2013650what’s funny is that you think I’m actually trying to be funny instead of just making fun of you. it can be hard to tell the difference for those on the spectrum, I understand. however, to dispel any further bong allegations, I’m not british and love my country
No. 2013675
>>2013662 Yeah but prostitution is like 90% made of sex trafficked, drug addicts, mentally ill and sex
abusive victims or women who are literaly starving (venezuela). It's like the 10% that you actually hate.
No. 2013681
>>2013610I agree and this is why I moved out ASAP, I can't even feel relaxed visiting my parents' house as an adult and I didn't even feel relaxed in their home as a teenager. I'm just saying that when Americans or Canadians or whatever say 'what's the big deal, most other cultures think multigenerational homes are normal' they're talking about a very different system and concept of personal/private space than what is normal in North America. Most North American adults I know who lived with their parents into adulthood didn't even have the level of privacy in their big suburban homes that my parents had in some shithole communist block apartment.
Especially if you want a relationship I can't imagine it ever not being intensely awkward to share a space with your parents, grandparents, or siblings.