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>>>/ot/82226Everything about pets you have or want. Give advice about pets you have, advice on whether or not you should get one and which kind, if you have one and are worried about it, resources links, facilities etc.
No. 1358372
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>>1358370i hate the fact that you cant bathe majority of rodents. Like yeah there are some who you can bathe but even then you are only allowed to bathe them rarely, and no matter how good you take care of them and their cage they still end up stinky due to no bathing. ahhh i just want a rodent that can be bathed.
No. 1380996
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i want a hamster, nearby breeder waitlist is over a year tho. been wondering if hamsters of different coat types are harder to take care of. like long hair rex hamsters are so cute but do they get more tangles cus their fur is curly?
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>>1381009>>1381028thought that would be the case, i am used to trimming knots on long haired pets but I feel kinda bad having to do it at all, i always would feel awful trimming chunks to get knots and burs off of my moms cat. if I get to choose between a long haired and a short haired syrian I'll go with the shortie for sure. i already have a big space planned for it because I wanna see it burrow deep in a naturalist cage, but i think im gonna get a wheel right after I get the hammy so I can measure her and make sure shes got the right size in case shes the fatty in her litter, idk yet. anyway I will go watch some videos, thank you nona
No. 1381289
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Any other nonas keeping reptiles? I have 4 lizards atm, with plans to get more when I have more money/space. I want snakes too but the people I live with are very afraid of them, so I'll have to wait until I move out. I'm afraid I'm turing into a crazy lizard lady but they're just the perfect small pets for me, they don't smell, make noise or need constant attention like birds/mammals do. I feel like there used to be some sort of stigma for people that owned reptiles being freaks but now I see a ton of normie women and insta thots that have exotic pets for pics, I just hope they are being taken care of as well as they can be and not just used for clout.
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No. 1433043
>>1381289I had an iguana as a child I loved so much, he was such a relaxed and nice pet. I loved petting his spines and feeding him dandelion greens
What kind of lizards do you have?
No. 1501349
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been thinking about owning a full moon betta fish in a good tank. pic related looks like one from a good fish store that i think about a lot. that or im thinking of cute little shrimps but i fear i wont know enough about salt water tanks so they would die.
No. 1505252
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I'm considering either getting bunnies or hamsters. I'm planning on getting at least two since they are social creatures and I read they can get depression and die early if they are alone so they need one of their own kind. So my question is: if I get two rabbits and then one dies before the other one what do I do? Do I get another rabbit? I'm scared that I will end in an endless loop where I get a new rabbit to replace and old one just to make sure that the other rabbit doesn't feel alone. This isn't practical but it depresses me to see an old rabbit that doesn't have a rabbit friend
No. 1505297
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>>1505252You both absolutely need to make sure you get two. I was like you and thought the exact same thing, but read over and over there needs to be two. I found it easier to buy two siblings since they already know each other and mine didn't need to be bonded. I could see what people mean by they need the other. They're extremely social animals.
It may seem counter-intuitive, but they'll be happier, be able to be groomed better, and they'll do more cute things together. Two rabbits also don't need much more space than one. If the rabbit is alone, it'll be extremely anxious always. A human can't replace a rabbit companion no matter what you do.
>>1505259Look into Rex rabbits. (Pic related. The color is called black otter rex and I love it) They have very short, low-maintenance luxurious coats and live generally 5-8 years compared to some rabbit breeds that live much longer.
No. 1505580
>>1433045That's beautiful nona. I hope all pet owners love their animals as much as you do.
>>1505252>>1505297You don't have to get stuck in an endless cycle. There's usually two options when you're bonded rabbit's companion dies. One, you can adopt a second older one. There are lots of older bunnies at the shelter and since they live about ten years, if you get one the same age, then they will pass at roughly the same time.
Two, this one is sadder as an owner but it's what people around me do with sheep since they have the same problem. If your rabbit's friend dies, you can find another person who's rabbit has also died and give away your rabbit to them in it's final years. It's sad, but it also ensures that your rabbit has a friend until the end.
The third option is you can always foster a bunny for your older rabbit and then give it back to the shelter when your bunny passes, but this one comes with the risk of becoming attached to the foster and adopting it, and then needing another rabbit as your new bunny's friend.
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i recommend prairie dogs, they are adorable and communicative. Better have two females though, because when you have male and a female the male protects her and is a little mean sometimes. I really like how their face looks when you scratch them and they enjoy it kek
No. 1505620
>>1505615this happens even when he sleeps in bed next to me, I've been trying to pet him in his sleep whenever I notice he's having a nightmare to see if it helps but I also need a more long-term solution because I can't always stay up all night
I'm also afraid of leaving him alone because I hate the thought of this happening and me not being there to comfort him
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since my cat likes to drink from the toilet bowl, i'm going to buy a water fountain for him. any tips/advice/personal experiences with those things?
No. 1649620
>>1649502I would get two. They will occupy each other and will get less lonely. There's something people refer to as "single kitten syndrome" that theorizes a single cat household is a poorly socialized cat household. I have noticed the difference between single cat households, and kittens introduced to households who have others to keep them occupied.
My parents got a cat a while back. They were able to bring her in from being a feral street kitten, but only my parents could touch her for more than a brief moment. After being socialized regularly with my cats for around 3 weeks, she's become very affectionate with me, less stressed, and begs for attention from my parents less. They didn't have a lot of time for her, but having playmates alleviates her loneliness.
It is best to get them as littermates as
>>1649552 says, so there is less stress introducing them to each other, but it isn't necessary. Just don't force them into each other's spaces before they're ready! Kittens are curious and love playing, so they will get used to other kittens more easily.
No. 1649634
>>1649626Unrelated kittens around the same age could work. Momma cats IRL often combine litters and will help each other raise them. So it could be done.
For male vs female… I have two neutered males now and they don't spray. In the past I had a male cat that was neutered and he'd try to spray, but he wouldn't leave anything behind. It's unfortunately up to the individual cat. But most of the neutered males I've had have never sprayed.
I havent had much difference between males and females in general though.
>>1649620Awww sounds so cute, the little feral kitten! I'm glad she's doing so well
No. 1651173
>>1649502i also recently got two kittens! i think if you want a single cat it's better to adopt an older one from a shelter, since they'll be calmer.
kittens definitely need a lot of play time and i'm really glad they can play with eachother (even though they still bother me to play with them when they're bored).
i have no advice though as i'm still figuring things out with my two girls.
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>>1830780I might be sorry to necro, but has this thread moved to somewhere else or are there just no nonnies wanting to discuss their animals? I want to hear about them!
Anyone else keeping fish here? Ive just added stock to a well-cycled tank, and I've got cloudiness I'm guessing is a bacterial bloom from the new bioload. I'm seeing a lot of suggestions to stop feeding until it's settled, but I feel really bad about that, especially considering my Endlers, one of which I think is still a fry.
Also I've got a male kitten (5mo) I'm hoping to neuter next week, any cat owners know how his behaviour will change, and on what timeline?
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>>1908213managed a well produced picture/eh - please god I want to see your pets and long-winded descriptions. This is Gregers, (left) rambunctious but massive cuddler, hanging over his sister, Gina, less social but decidedly more intelligent. Both regarding Augervald, who has more evoultionary history than the felis could ever dream of.
No. 1908442
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>>1908375nona you're living the life!! I love your cats and your pleco. Do they like to watch the fish often? I only have a terrarium with some bugs in it but my cat is very entertained by them, I bet he'd love some fish. I can't keep fish right now but I love planning what I'd stock a tank with in the future. I want shrimps for sure, love watching them eat and skitter around. plecos are also very cool and I love fish with beautiful fins and patterns like pearl gouramis or bettas.
For right now I'm adding a giant millipede or snails to my isopod tank but I see mixed opinions online if that's a good idea. Interestingly roly polys can be quite savage kek so if you don't keep them well fed they can attack their tankmates. even if we don't think of them as predators they're very opportunistic.
No. 1908456
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>>1908442Your terrarium sounds so cool nonna! Ive been fascinated by insects since forever, how is your setup? with fish i feel super anxious about how the water is even if i check it constantly, how do you control the environment for a giant millipede?
No. 1908523
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>>1908456yes fish tanks seem very intimidating to keep because of all the water parameters. Especially saltwater/reef tanks, it's crazy to me how much equipment and testing you need. Plus keeping aquatic plants happy seems way harder for some reason. Does your pleco have any tank mates? I've heard they're pretty chill with other fish.
Millipedes and isopods are simple. They need soil for burrowing, fallen leaves for food, keeping the tank moist so they can molt and breathe (isopods have gills!) They get all the nutrients they need from leaves and eggshells but I like feeding them vegetable scraps too. Most people keep them in a shoebox in a closet and check on them once a week, doesn't get more low maintenance than that!
I have a 10 gallon tank with a cheap grow light. Most of the organic material I take from the forest or friends' gardens, like this cool log I found. I put some pothos clippings in and they're threatening to take over the tank but the isopods seem to like them!
deleted to repost with image spoiler because some nonas don't like bugposting kek No. 1909071
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>>1908523Holy hell, that's adorable! The little eyes!
You've unlocked a childhood memory for me, at about age 8 me and a bunch of friends made a cardboard mansion for a bunch of woodlice we collected outdoors, spent weeks watching them wander around and explore the foliage. This must have been before I owned a copy of the sims, kek.
I've got a few tankmates for my nosebearded fella, six lemon tetras, six zebra danios, a pair of swordtails and three young endlers (practically babies). It's a fairly fresh setup, but they all seem to be mixing well. Particulary the danios like scooching up to the pleco when he travels to the top of the glass :3
I've got another empty 60L tank on standby, been considering recently about building a paludarium in it and using it for smaller shrimp, maybe snails. I'd love to have frogs, but they're almost all illegal in my country, along with most amphibians and reptiles.
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>>1909071I love those lemon tetras, they're so cute!
>paludariumif they're available in your country maybe look into vampire crabs? You could keep several of them comfortably in a 60L. I think they're super cute but opinions online seem to be mixed on how nice they are to shrimps.
Having restrictions in what you can keep does seem like a pain but I also find it interesting how it adds variety to the hobby. Like Australians basically can't import anything but then they also have so many cool native reptiles like ackie monitors that aren't really kept anywhere else.
The next tank I get I'm going to go all out on the background wall and plants like in picrel, this isopod setup was my first time trying anything like this but now with some experience I want to make something really cool
No. 1917033
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>>1909604I've been looking at a few styles of auascaping recently, from Walstad, to Iwagumi methods of arranging softscape and hardscape. I quite like the Iwagumi style, but it's so purist, and a lot of the designs seem a bit empty to me. The idea of a minuature landscape is so cool though.
I went to my local beach a few days ago and collected some driftwood, and I'm in the process of soaking it. Think it will look real nice.
I had a scare yesterday though. I have six lemon tetras from a non-corporate shop. I think the dudes are hobbyists who started a good shop, selling their extra broods and spanws.
One of my lemon tetras has a curved back. he seems fine, swims and eats like the others. He seemed really gray yesterday, and floated diagonally a few times as I watched him, but today he seems cool. Hope he's all right, if its problems from his spine deformity I'll have to make a judgement.
I did bring u the idea of owning clove oil (asking her if she saw some at the pharmacy if she could pick up a bottle) to my mum today Clove oil is the only way of humanely killing fish, i.e. guaranteeing that they feel no pain. She seemed annoyed by this, it's her opinion that spending time thinking of the pain of fish is stuid considering the situation in Gaza. I agreed- not seeing how my fish tank and her next trip to the pharmacy relates to that. I guess she has a limit to what she thinks animals are worth, which I understand. Yet I spent three hours at my local station of refugee aid to Ukraibe last night, sorting, packing and carrying, and she would never bother. There's a Palestine comittee I've been an active participant in since I joined youth politics a decade ago. I show up. So I reckon I can buy clove oil in good conscience.
The morals around pets and animals are frequently confusing.
No. 1936264
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My 3 year old cat is a picky furbaby, he hates wet food/vomits it up. We've tried every wet food from super expensive to the cheap brands, even soupy ones too. He can only stand to eat dry food cereal. The vets cleared him already(we also had to bring him in because he loves eating string). I also bought him a water fountain because he wouldn't drink from a bowl, (he'd stick his paw in it to move it around). We adopted him from my sisters in laws who own a farm so he was an outside kitty before we got him about 10 weeks.
Could kitty survive without wet meat if I bought him good(expensive) cereal if there is such a thing? Any recs? I'd sprinkle some water on top of the dry food too. I just don't know what to do.
No. 1936290
>>1936264Check on the labeling of the food has taurine or he will go blind.
Cats can only get taurine through diet(which would be in nature by eating birds).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taurine#Cats No. 1939895
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>>1936264Don't worry too much, we've fed cats kibble for as long as I remember, and never have had a problem related to digestion or teeth. We only started feeding them wet food like 3 years ago, and keep it as a treat every once in a while. The wet food we feed them is whiskas, but I make sure to buy kibble that's labeled as high in protein or rich in animal products, as I think carbohydrates is what contributes to tartar (?). Currently I'm feeding our Maine Coon specific adult food for his breed, and our 6mo shelter kittens get this brand that is mostly made up of chicken, salmon and krill. As I've understood it the problem with kibble can be filler (i.e carbs, probably corn) and that's what you want to avoid
>1936290Had to do a double check cause I thought for a second you were saying taurine will MAKE them blind. Thank god it was just my shit reading comprehension.
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Are there any big spider owners? I'm considering a spider but only if i could make it tame and friendly, is that possible? Perhaps if i get it as a baby?
No. 1940511
>>1940483Some species of tarantulas make good pets. The one in your picrel is one of them. Friendliness varies greatly between individuals. Some are OK with being handled for longer periods of time and they're docile enough not to bite or get stressed from being handled and kept in a tank. Some of them will go apeshit at the tiniest provocation. Go to the breeder in person and discuss what you're looking for, they'll be able to give you a much better idea of what each individual can handle and you can decide if it's for you. You'll also be able to meet the tarantulas and see if the breeder is actually good or if they're one of the retards who thinks that keeping tarantulas in tiny containers is a good idea.
You need a tank, an environment for that tank, the correct lighting, heating and humidity for that species (and you'll need to keep an eye on the humidity during molting), and worst of all, live food. If you have issues with that, don't get a tarantula.
Keep in mind that you'll need a vet who specializes in exotic pets. Internet forums can only do so much. Having said that, definitely join any groups that the breeder recommends, they can be your first port of call for any issues you run into and they'll be able to recommend vets who can help you.
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this is my betta fish, ive had him for 3 months now. i'm hoping to be able to get him a bigger tank soon, the one he's in now was bought for me and it's a 3.5gal which is a bit small. i'm hoping to upgrade to a 5 or 10gal soon and then i can continue to add plants and driftwood. i absolutely love decorating the tank, i went to the beach and picked out the driftwood and bigger rocks myself for his tank.
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>>1936272>>1936290>>1939895Thanks for all the advice! I have him on the purina pro plan dry kibble for now, he seems to like it. And I feed him wet food like every other week just for variety.
>>1940492My cat does not like human food at all, I tried feeding him a few little pieces of cooked chicken breast but he wouldn't eat it.
No. 2021390
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My dog passed away over a year ago. I was extremely heartbroken and struggled with the grief. Things are a lot better now, and I still think of her often, but I'm not always sad when I think about her, I just miss her a lot.
The idea of another dog brings out a lot of complicated feelings, but I also just miss having a dog so much. I grew up with my dog, so it feels very weird and lonely not to have one around. I live at home and don't have plans to move out anytime soon (HCOL city, saving up to buy my own place, don't pay rent with my parents kek), but my dad and I have discussed getting another dog. I think we're on the same page about getting another one, but he seems a lot more eager than me. The problem is that aside from a small dog, we can't seem to agree on anything else. He wants a puppy because they'll live longer so we get to be with them longer. I want an adult/senior dog because I don't think I'm ready for another 15+ year commitment, and I want a lower energy dog, whose probably already set in their ways. We might not have 15+ years together, but I think even just 5 years together would be so great. I think older dogs deserve a home in their golden years, and I'd love to give it to them. I think often of my dog when she got older, I imagine what if she had to be surrendered to a shelter? I also don't want to raise a puppy kek.
He REALLY wants a frenchie, I don't want a frenchie. If I could pick a breed, I'd want a chihuahua because I think they're so goofy and silly. Or a Japanese Chin, because they look like funny little cryptids sometimes. But I'm happy to go to a shelter and come home with their most scrunkly old dog.
It bothers me when he says he'll take care of the puppy rearing, but when I think back on it, I don't really like how he raised our first dog because he uses a lot of fear tactics. He also says he feels so lazy now because he has nothing to commit to, but in the final months of our late dog's life, I was her main caretaker. He couldn't even be bothered to change her diaper when I texted him to because I was going to be late coming home. My parents would just come into my room every once in a while to pet her, but I was the one fretting over all of her care. My dad holds it against me that he raised our dog when she was a puppy… but I was also 8 years old at the time so…
No. 2021408
>>2021390Are you the anon who had the pekingese called Angel?
Either way I think getting a senior dog is a wonderful idea, but there's also the chance that you'll have to take care of them 24/7 if they have issues due to old age so you must be prepared for that. I wouldn't really consider your dad's opinion because it looks like he's not going to take care of them anyway (a few pets once in a while don't count), he's probably the guy that takes home a puppy because it's cute and then stops caring for it when it grows up. So really you should decide. Also please if you go for a puppy don't choose a frenchie, I'd avoid breeds known for having health issues (if you're buying them, if they're from the shelter it's fine obviously as long as you're ready for it), especially if you already went through taking care for a severely ill dog.
No. 2021784
>>2021408Yes that's me lol…….
Thank you nona. There's so much to consider with a senior vs puppy… I have a lot of other considerations too (work schedule, etc). A friend also warned me about frenchie health issues! Hers has a lot of allergies too.
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>>2021390Nonna, I really feel for you. I had to put down my best friend for 14 years in the fall of 2022, and I still have mornings where I wake up thinking he'll be asleep at the foot of my bed. I've kind of decided I'm never having a dog again because it will never be the same as him. My mom is hinting towards getting a new "family dog" when she retires (my living situation is p much the same as yours, basement flat with no rent, lol), but I feel a sort of resentment against having a dog in our immediate family again. My dog was absurdly socially intelligent when it came to humans (very awkward around other dogs, sometimes hilariously so), and felt more like a little brother, since I got him at the age of ten, and we were inseperable throughout my formative years.
I think if you do get a new one, get one that's entirely legally yours, and take on all the responsibility, pet ownership is a pretty nice route into getting a hold of adulthood. You'll feel closer to the dog if everyone has the clear idea that he's yours, in my experience.
I've never been able to jive with small dogs myself, mostly get along with the big ones, but tastes vary - always had a thing for small poodle breeds though (but not with poodle cuts). Previously, I would probably have sided with your dad about getting a puppy so you can start from scratch, but I took over the care of an 8 yo cat four years ago, and that cat became the most affectionate and social cat I've ever come across, even though his previous family was also great. I think maybe adopting an older animal forms a bond that's a bit different, but it might be confirmation bias.
No. 2042385
>>2042249>Egg boundI'm aware of egg binding and I did think that might have been the case, but I also was not sure because she laid one egg, then looked tired for a couple of hours (stayed at the bottom of the cage), then went up her nest again so I thought she just had to wait a bit before laying more. Then she died overnight. She was pretty well-fed (eggs with shell for calcium, greens and fruits as well as the usual seeds) and her mate kept feeding her even while she was trying to lay eggs. I also thought that maybe she was old and the person at the shop just clipped her nails to make her appear younger. I have other females (not from the store) and none of them were ever egg bound. And the other female from the shop that died a while ago wasn't even laying.
I didn't know about the fake eggs though, I'll look into it because I see that they constantly try to make the nest and lay eggs until the colder climate comes, and I'll try to not shop from stores anymore.
No. 2049442
>>2049439She's had the cats for close to 10 years and has never even mentioned feeding them vegan before even though she's been vegan the whole time, she even made sure to feed them a 'higher quality' meat diet than normal. I don't know why she is suddenly on about this except that I know she's been watching a bunch of vegan youtube videos and streams that she said made her realize it's unethical for her to be vegan but let her cats eat meat.
I told her that I am worried her cats will get sick or die and that's why I can't just support her in this and her response was that I'm being 'dismissive of things that are important to her' and that I am being condescending… apparently 'there are studies' that show it's perfectly safe for cats to be vegan although she refuses to link to any.
No. 2107613
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I work at a petting farm and I'm considering adopting rabbits from my workplace. I've done a ton of research, we even have a dog run outside with a concrete base we don't use that could be easily transformed into a rabbit run. These buns have lived outside their whole lives, I live in Ireland where the climate is really mild. This would be my first time owning rabbits, but I had a pet lizard for about 7 years and I think I could give them a really good life but my boyfriend is not so sure. He's worried I'll get bored of them and he also says since I put off laundry and leave my clothes on the floor then I will do the same to rabbits? Please tell me if I'm wrong here but the laundry thing is more of an executive functioning issue, plus laundry doesn't die if you don't take care of it. I am also autistic and working a full time draining job, as for clothes being on the floor. It's not 4chan tier bedroom either and I clean up when I have my days off. As for "getting bored" I can't really see that happening? When I was 11 I begged for pet newts and my parents got them for me without doing any research themselves, the setup was wrong and I didn't properly take care of them and they ended up dying. I also liked picking them up but they are fragile which definitely didn't help. I felt really bad and my parents were mad at me. I still feel guilty about that, but I'm 21 now and getting "bored" of something that depends on you for survival seems like a little kid thing. Their care doesn't even seem too intensive, their diet is 80% hay so all I would have to do is drop their hay and their greens off in the morning, pellets in the evening. Thoughts nonas? Pic is the rabbits, 2 of the 7 siblings
No. 2107693
>>2107613What gorgeous bunnies! I suffer from similar and I have a really happy and healthy bunny, and I've had about ten rabbits at the same time growing up. Like you said, you just give them their hay and greens once a day and then pellets and treats sometimes, and you don't have to give as much attention as a solitary rabbit. I would recommend setting a day to play them every week or so when you have time, and I don't know if you get snakes or foxes in Ireland but if you do definitely make sure the run can't be got into.
Otherwise you sound ready to look after them, good luck nonna!
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I went to take out the bin 2 days ago and my indoor/rarely-garden cat figured it'd be a good time to venture out and explore the area while I wasn't looking. Hasn't been back since, but I am forcing myself to be positive that he will find a way back. I recently moved across the entire country so maybe this is him exploring the new town.