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Post about your employment status, successes, woes, anxieties, rants, etc.
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>>>/ot/1043200 No. 1332234
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Someone needs to be home during the day in the next few months so people can come in and do renovations. Meaning I'll have to take the afternoon shift. After that, I can take the day shift IF they let me. I want the day shift though, not the afternoon. If I have to do 3 pm to 11 pm for 8 months I'll go fucking ballistic. I have to leave 30 minutes earlier than I'd like because the bus near me is often later getting to where all the buses meet for transfers. So I'll be at work, half an hour early than I need to be.
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I’ve chosen to do medical assisting, I know the money isn’t great but it’s something I like. Will report back in a couple months how it turns out when I finish MA school
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I have a second round, in person interview at a university tomorrow. I'm meeting 5 different people one on one. I do want this job because it's the pay I'm looking for, and it's a prestigious university with good benefits (according to my friend who's husband just finished his phd from there). Only real downside is that the commute is an hour away from me, and I have to take 2 trains. I've been spoiled the last 5 years, all of my jobs have been in relatively the same area and it's usually a 20-30 minute single train ride. I won't be terribly miffed if I don't get this job because of the commute alone kek.
No. 1332338
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>>1332007Does anybody else feel pressured by their peers to take a different job? Right now I work in clothing alterations, and with my education I could also get a job with a fashion company as a junior designer. I work for the alterations place because it's 5 mins away from my home and I don't have my driver's license yet, flexible hours, kind and supportive staff, I'm good at it, etc.
When I talk to people about it they're always like "you should be working for x fashion company, not doing that!" "just because you can't drive doesn't mean you can't commute" but everyone I know who commutes by train to the nearest fashion companies says it sucks and they hate it. I feel like part of the reason why so many young people aren't working now is because they get shit if they take a "scrub" job. It's like damn gimme a fucking minute I'm not going to do this forever. Even if I was, would it be so bad? Clothing alteration is specialized work…
And yes I am in the sewing thread here lol No. 1332392
>>1332110the oca and aws sound useful, I'll look into getting those
thanks nona
No. 1332946
>>1332283I just found out that I can give the contractors a spare key! why wasn't I told this before I asked for the 3-11, well because people around me want to tell me nothing.
I can call up work and plead for the day shift after they worked around to get me 3-11. Or accept the 3-11.
I hate life. I'm lucky for a job after years of neetdom though.
>>1332313You aren't a dumb bitch. Sorry, that's happening at work.
>>1332323Good luck!
No. 1332985
>>1332338a girl in my masters program quit halfway through and when they checked on her, she proudly announced she had found a job at a cozy vegan cafe with great coworkers while she worked on her project of becoming a tattoo artist.
they flipped on her and said they students shouldn't settle for minimum wage when they have an education and skills.
take things at your own pace nona!!! this mindset is stupid
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How does one manage two jobs at once? like the physical and mental aspects of it?
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I flunked out in late 2020 in a Bsc in Physics, and I've been lying to my family about my true progress. I'm better at redoing and remembering old knowledge but I have trouble trying to self-learn from a textbook. A part of me wants to go out and buy a fake degree and get a better job so I can afford to live away from family and retry later. I want to force myself and speedrun through as many books and textbooks. I'm working through the physics GRE right now. I was doing third year stuff, thermal physics and mathematical methods(ODEs) before flunking out.
No. 1345566
>>1344484yes, give em a warning
>>1342214Sometimes if you follow up with a thank you email, they usually remember your politeness and thoughtfulness to write them an email. Good luck
nonnie!! I've done this before
No. 1345627
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I got my work permit!! I had an interview today, at a place that isn't really my first choice, and i have two more coming up! One is at a very fancy mall and I'm so happy I'm going to have money and a schedule again. Daydreaming about buying a planner. Feel like a nerd but also very happy I can work in my new country!!
No. 1346492
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I just started working in healthcare and I don't think it's for me. I'm considering switching career paths, particularly to cybersecurity. Is it worth it to get a computer science degree or is the field too infested with techbros? Should I get a second bachelors, or go straight for a masters?
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My current job gave me a choice between a morning and evening shift and after nearly 4 months, they are telling me I have to switch to the evening shift in order to keep working for the company. The pay is the best I've had. I'm not sure what to do and I'm frustrated
No. 1346769
>>1346492Kek working in healthcare is so stressful
nonny. I feel your pain.
No. 1346797
>>1346492making a similar shift
nonnie, ex-nursing student. got a job working with a company that makes emrs with zero prior tech experience. maybe try getting certifications geared toward what you're looking at instead of throwing more money at school? best of luck on your journey, you can do it!
No. 1346981
I feel anxious about working and letting down everyone if I don’t get a job quick enough. Obviously I won’t have to work for about a year but it’s looming.
>>1345627Fuck I’m so jealous! I moved to the states and just submitted my paperwork today. I’m working on my degree while I wait but I really want to help my husband with bills.
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No. 1347196
>>1347148thank you so much for the reply. I've thought similarly! Firefighting would put me closer actually, but I struggled to meet the pass requirements for the pac test when I was training myself for it. other women have passed it, it's very possible. Being so short puts me at a disadvantage for the time limit and eventually I quit on it. I know that's on me, I could have tried harder for longer but at my age I decided to go another route.
without getting too specific bc I'm overly paranoid about how small/specific the program is, think more hazmat management/emergency response type field.
I also went hard for safety technician/EHS type jobs for awhile but again, I kept running into the "not what we're looking for" issue and after so many god damn times of it after interview prepping and review, brushing up on stuff I had learned years ago, dressing up nicely and driving out to entire different cities… then sobbing in the hotel after the interview. just failing, over and over. I don't think I'm cut out for it.
I guess I just want some simple job doing data entry or admin work or very basic computer software/hardware repair, just anything remotely stable that pays enough to rent a shitty studio apt in this hellconomy.
No. 1347400
>>1347196Is it literally the firefighting aspect they want on your resume or is it paramedicine? There's plenty of states where EMS isn't tied to the fire station, although there may still be a fitness test it wouldn't be as hard. That would be a couple more years of school to be a medic. Would be a massive waste of time if doesn't help you get a better job later.
You are probably familiar with your state's government jobs site looking for roles in that type of field but if not - look it up for some of those simple sit-down jobs you described. A lot of them have a low barrier to entry or if they want a bachelor's it can often be in anything at all. There's room to grow with promotions. You may be able to wfh.
No. 1348271
Maybe not the right thread for it, but I'm pretty bearish on white collar cerebral jobs. I think the next waves of technological advancements will make a lot of this more work more superfluous and easy. Not to say that blue collar will be any better kek, but white collar will just become increasingly shit.
In fact, I think this has already been the case for the last fifteen or so years and government regulations have covered it up. I think you could have your average barista working as a pharmacist and there would be little difference. The computer prints out a warning if the doctor's prescription causes a clash with another medication, pharmacists don't need to know how drugs interact with one another anymore. It's insurance and liability reasons propping it up, keeping them pointlessly doing years of medical training to package pills.
I think there will be core cities like London, New York, San Fran, Hong Kong, Singapore that suck up all the genius talent to achieve the next marginal gains, and everywhere else in the world will get the software trickling down from that to allow once high paying careers to be flooded with mediocre talent, driving down the wages.
No. 1348599
>>1348271>I think you could have your average barista working as a pharmacist and there would be little difference. Fuck no, that's the worst example you could have used. I don't disagree with you except for shit like this. A competent pharmacist would be able to tell you what treatment interfers with what meds and in cases I know like mine when I was a kid/teen and in the case of one of my relatives, once you have a very rare disorder they can help you by giving you information about that. I don't think I can trust your average barista to tell me all the side effects of medications used when you suffer from ankylosing spondylitis and the specific way they can fuck up a fetus when you take said meds as a pregnant patient. And I don't expect your average barista to tell me the difference between the previous and highly dangerous and
toxic treatment for childhood onset pituitary dwarfism and the current treatment that's now safe.
No. 1348950
I'm so angry and frustrated about my work anons, just gotta rant
I've been working here for 5 years, it was dream come true when I got hired, and it turned out to be even better than I could ever anticipate. There was genuine passion, creativity, love for the industry; the office itself was amazing, perks better than anywhere else, good pay, supportive environment, all that. And then, 3 years in, management slowly began to change. First just moving some people around, then outright "parting ways", few mass firings too. New management was appointed; we were moved to MUCH worse office, less and less things were provided, management started focusing on rewarding and promoting these that would be most cutthroat and willing to exploit others, continuosly push blame on employees as a whole that they're not coming up with enough new ideas for company's future direction while being unable to ever provide any, even basic outline of their own plan. On top of that, COVID and months of remote work, which now turned to hybrid, made people completely apathetic, I haven't seen my teammates faces in months because they're not even turning their cameras on during weekly meetings. Everyone is exhausted, the only topic people ever can think of even during creative brainstorms is what's gonna bring most financial gain, becuase anything else will be heavily scrutinized by the top management. There's no wiggle room for new ideas, for creativity, and really with the company atmosphere slowly and steadily going to shit last 2 years, no one even cares to do that wiggle.
I'm upset, it feels like something amazing was stolen from me, that every day enthusiasm I came to work with. I saw myself at this job for many more years to come, I truly cared for company's projects and it's success, and always tried my best. Now I can't give a damn anymore, and just apathetically watch everything become worse and worse. Good jobs are insanely hard to come by and I hate top management for destroying everyone's morale and passion. Really hope they'll go bankrupt at this point
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>work in health care because it's easy to get into, plus school
>chosen career field is seen as weird or gross
>get comments about how it's a moid field
>school released statistics about demographic of students
>program is female dominated with 30% more women finishing and finding work post college than the moids
>"but it's weird for a woman!!!"
I just want to do what I want to do
No. 1349169
>>1347928>>1347933OAYWRT, I didn't get any result today but I also got no perspective either from my manager when it comes to future interviews. It's kinda depressing because you're either in demand with tech or just completely ignored for months unless you're working in something you're not experimented with. The latter actually drained my motivation to do side projects and to get better at supersonic speeds.
My mom in particular wants to pressure me out in finding something else despite being a cuckoo believing in occult, always complaining that it doesn't go faster and I have to move. But the thing is, I'm exhausted. It's so tiresome to look after yourself everyday and getting a hook in careers FAST FAST AND FASTER.
No. 1349320
>>1348599>>1348555NTA. I largely agree with your descriptions of how pharmacists can be useful, but pharmacists are so swamped that they spend all their time doing tasks that stop the ship from sinking. These tasks are largely doable by experienced techs (with the assistance of computerized drug interaction checks).
Having a pharmacist know a patient's conditions, meds, other health info, can be a great asset to that patient's health and safety. But retail pharmacists are extremely overworked and have no time for anything that isn't survival. They don't have time for proper counseling, they don't have time for thorough drug reviews, they don't even have time to take a piss.
Mild tinfoil, but I think large pharmacy chains are well aware of this and are seeking to push pharmacists further in this direction so that they can justify replacing them with lower and lower paid workers. I know Walgreens has a system where remote pharmacists can assist in Drug Utilization Reviews, even though they have 0 context on who the patient is or their conditions besides their poorly maintained pharmacy profile. If requirements for in-person pharmacists are lifted, I have no doubts that the industry will move towards having one remote pharmacist "oversee" 2-4 stores at once.
I've seen a lot of pharmacists start to push back against mandatory free counseling for patients. I think this is a step in the wrong direction, because this is one of the few ways where they can make a difference and help instead of being a (very replaceable) cog in the machine. But I sympathize because they have entirely too much on their plates.
TL;DR Pharmacists in concept aren't useless, but corporate pharmacies have forced them into a role where their expertise means very little, and as a consequence, the public has understandably begun to think of pharmacists as useless.
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>>1349563Thanks
nonny. I’m just so crushed. This job was exactly what I wanted and I don’t even know what I did wrong, I can only assume buyers remorse since they were paying me a good salary. I’m terrified my next job will pay less, or I don’t get one at all. I just signed a years lease on my apartment so I can’t even go be a NEET.
No. 1349593
>>1349569Sending nothing but love,
nonnie. Go for a job that matches your desired salary. I believe in you. You can and will do this.
No. 1349605
>>1349569the economy is in the shitter now and you are probably working on a country where they have "last one in -> first one out" rules around downsizing.
I am sorry, this sucks. But you will find another job, and it will be even better fit for you. It's usually how it goes.
No. 1349610
>>1347850>for a software engineering position in a famous companyHere is your problem. Why? You do know these companies only hire THE BEST people, right?
Just go work for startups/scaleups/rando companies for a few years, until you are knowledgable and confident enough to approach famous companies.
No. 1349613
>>1347469Just throwing out ideas but, do you speak any langages other than english? If so:
>translationsif not
>transcribing>personal assistant If you are willing to take some online courses
>SEO specialist>Copywriting>online marketingJust throwing out ideas.
No. 1350442
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I'm being bullied by a coworker. Somehow the entire workplace knows about our feud despite me trying to avoid conflict etc. The coworker is autistic without a doubt and I'm worried she's going to fuck with my work/ job. We have never gotten on and have been working for the same company for about 3 years. I have tried standing up for myself, I have tried acquiescing to her, tried being direct about burying the hatchet but nothing works. Management are aware of the conflict and do their best to roster us apart but over the past week other coworkers have been stirring the pot and mentioning her name to me way more. It's made me ultra paranoid that something is brewing.
One day I will leave this job, but right now I don't want to as it would let her "win" and be really inconvenient for me. It also pays much better than any other companies in the industry around here. The rest of the staff I think I get on with just fine and I've never been in any kind of trouble. But I just can't stop thinking about this bitch. It bleeds into my home life. I try and get my mind off work- go biking, go swimming, play with my dog, talk to my partner but I feel consumed by work and fear that this bully autist is scheming something.
Any advice nonnies? Have you been the target of a workplace bully and managed to stick it out for a while? 2 years and I hopefully will have saved enough money to gtfo and change career altogether.
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>>1350442Nonny my
nonny, it's not worth the stress. Apply to other jobs now and prepare for an exit. You're already sick with stress about it all the time and its not good for you. When you find one, send out a nice long email politely explaining the hostility that impeded your productivity and how disappointed you were that you had to leave since you had a lot to offer (mention some good things you did and how you wanted to move up in the company even if you didn't). Cc anyone who would matter but her.
You may feel scared to lose this job but this may also be a turning point into a better one maybe even in a completely different type of role. The lack of job candidates allows for that kind of career pivoting now. I did it myself.
Ignore the notion of "winning or losing" with her. You shouldn't have to put up with it, Let her be
toxic over there with someone else and management may finally later see she's the problem. Other than that the only way to "win" is to play her own game back which sounds utterly draining. I'd prefer a fresh start.
No. 1350554
>>1350545firm agreement with this, especially in thinking you'd be "winning" or "losing". I get the feeling but people like her will always feel like they're winning even when they're clearly losing,
its some bizzare piece of shit coping mechanism ime. thinking of it that way for years is just sunk cost fallacy. you deserve to be treated as an adult by other adults by default, not stressing out during your me time. fuck that ho, enjoy your time off work!
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>>1350545>>1350554Thank you my nonas, I appreciate your words and liked the part about letting go of "winning" or losing. I guess my hesitation is also the devil you know, i.e. the possibility of a new awful colleague somewhere else but the detriment to my mental health is worth the risk at this point.
No. 1350559
>>1350442do you have an HR resource you can share this with? it's workplace harassment.
make sure your company has an anti-retaliation policy as well so you cannot get into any trouble for reporting it. regardless, you should start making moves to leave. you should not work for a place that actively fosters harassment against you (which is what it is, given that multiple people are aware and doing nothing to stop it.)
No. 1352687
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I have 2 interviews for jobs this week and I'm so nervous. They're both online and one is a group interview and the other is a one on one. I really don't want to mess it up. The jobs are real career jobs and I really want to finally take that step of adulthood. I've been unemployed since october 2021. I hope I can get through this step cause even after the online interviews there's another face to face one where they will hire you on the spot or send you back home.
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Can anybody offer me some insight on interior design as a career choice? Or reassure me I’m not utterly fucking myself by choosing it as a major.
The school I want to go to has an awesome program but I can’t justify going into debt for a degree that won’t guarantee me a livable salary. My parents laughed in my face when I told them thats what I want to do. They want me to learn a trade instead but I have no interest in that. I feel lost, I can’t think of anything else I would enjoy or be good at.
No. 1354514
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Nonnies I just quit a job that had been slowly driving me insane for two years, I feel like a weight has been lifted off my chest. but now I have no idea what to do? I have a college degree in a soft science, lots of experience in: service industry, event/weddings, customer service, and bookkeeping.
I should have waited until I had another offer to quit but I had multiple meltdowns this month and couldn't handle being told 5x different things by different people, the utter chaos, and being blamed for shit other people were doing. I want a hybrid job where I can be around other humans most of the time but WFH when I don't want to deal with their bullshit. I just don't know where to start it's so overwhelming.
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>>1345627this is me following up that I GOT A JOB!!!!!!!!!!!! I ACCEPTED AN OFFER TODAY!!!!!! AT THE VERY FANCY MALL!!!!!! I will probably start next week! oh my god!!!! I will finally have money!!!!!
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>>1354620>I will finally have money!!!!!Nothing personnel, kid
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Stable hours factory job or Fast Food joint closer to home?
No. 1354798
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Has anyone ever felt like they’re being slowly demoted even though their job title isn’t changing? I work a shit hospitality job where I usually get to finish around 9pm and work away from gross food smells and grunt work, but lately my work friend is getting my usual shifts and I’m getting the worst shifts they have to offer with all the hard work and bad smells and finishing extremely late. I’m happy that she’s getting better shifts but it’s so insulting to basically be replaced when I didn’t do anything wrong. I wanna quit because every time I come into work I end up crying, it feels so demeaning.
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>>1354798You should bring it up to them. Say you've noticed that they've changed the shifts you typically work and that you want it to be switched back since it was done without your consultation. I worked a shitty fast food job a few years ago and they slowly bumped my hours up (part time to near full time) and I only didn't say anything because the extra money was nice kek. If you don't say anything they will keep doing it, they probably give you all the hard shit because you do it without complaint.
No. 1356367
>>1356029thanks, I will look at this because I actually did underwriting for car insurance pre-pandemic. but it was a glorified call centre and I quit lol
>>1356126this anon >
>>1356138 is right sorry, it's nothing to do with computer programming, I just read documents and attach them to the records of patients. "coding" means i attach codes to say they have ABC diagnosis, or XYZ medical procedure, or whatever.
No. 1356559
>>1356531For the VA position they wanted 3 to 5 years of customer service experience. I've been in retail for 10 years from cashier up to my current manager position.
Go on USAjobs.gov an search for contact representative or legal administrative specialist if you want an easy foot in the door as the start at th GS5/7 pay range.
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>>1348153I had to substitute teach for four days this week, that’s literally one day out of five for my actual job. I really like my coworkers and the location but this really sucks.
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I had an interview on Wednesday and I have no idea how I did. There's one more step in the hiring process (another interview at headquarters), and I really hope I passed the first interview. I hear there's tons of people who heard back already who interviewed the same day. I'm worried this is a bad sign since I haven't received the email just yet. It's the weekend now so I won't know til next week for sure but damn I want this job so bad.
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Bumpp
No. 1361625
>>1361518i think she means that the dog shares his name with the
schizotranny? kek
No. 1363773
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About how long does it take to hear back in response for an application? I see urgent job postings everywhere in my area and I must've already applied to 6 but so far nothing back… I lucked out on getting my other job basically being hired as a walk in and I left that job on good terms so if they contact them as a reference I should have a good word for me. I'm not even applying for places that require a degree so idk how to make my application more attractive for employers
No. 1364673
>>1363773Typically can take a few days to 2 weeks. I've had places contact me a day later after I applied while others can take 2 weeks. Depends on how badly they need someone. The ones that took 2 weeks were the ones that had signs posted like "Hiring! Apply today!"
If you apply, wait a day or two before calling in.
No. 1365994
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>Work at a US subsidiary of a big Japanese auto company
>Kinda frustrated at my job for a while
>Having a hard time making new friends in new city
>Run by a super awkward, autistic Japanese engineer
>love my position, love my company and coworkers, just a lot of mismanagement
>New CEO comes in a few months back (they'll usually "assign" Japanese leadership to us and they usually suck tbh)
>He's amazing
>Knows my name and practices Japanese with me
>Funny, outgoing, will chat with employees in the break room, and never thinks of anyone as "beneath him"
>Always pretty busy with the bosses in Japan but he still makes time for us
>He reminds me a lot of my dad
>Yesterday me and five other random people from my department are placed in a meeting room with him
>He says to discuss any issues we've been having at work
>We talk, we laugh
>He was so kind and understanding about it
>He says "I just want all of you to be happy to be here"
>At the end he says "If any of you need anything, please send me an e-mail or give me a call!"
I'm so emotional, nonnas. One of the guys from our department has worked at various plants in the company for 30+ years and said he's never seen anything like this, ever. I wanna protect him at all costs
No. 1366397
>>1365994Aww, that's so sweet nona! I'm kind of in a similar boat, being at a US branch of a big Japanese media company. All the managers are expats, and we had one guy who was soooooo sweet. He was super chill to talk with and just a good dude all around. It sucks his contract just ended and he went back to Japan. I left during his first year because I was a temp employee, and came back on his last year as a permanent employee. He left me a cake on his last day! Me! Like, I'm supposed to be the one getting you something!!! I haven't spoken much to his successor, who's much more quiet than he is. Apparently his successor was a producer on some animes before kek.
I hope your new CEO is here to stay!
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Does anyone work in logistics? I'm struggling to understand it and need some help with time management. Any nonnies working jobs with heavy time restrictions please give me some tips on how to be better at it.
No. 1367549
>>1367328Agreed. I had to do them quarterly at my last job. They reward dishonesty and force you to play stupid political games.
I had a dickhead manager that would read what I wrote and parrot it back at me like it was his own original feedback. Naturally, I stopped being as honest, and he switched to giving me shit for "not putting enough effort into the quarterly reviews" and "not having a growth mindset." He would never offer me feedback that I didn't first offer myself. So, the discussions we had about my performance reviews were largely us "collaborating" to "identify" (invent) increasingly minor "areas of improvement."
It felt like confession.
No. 1368329
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Yesterday, my only real life friend just asked me to join her in her dad's business. I've known her for a long time and have always envied what her family does because it's so cool to me, and wished I could do something like that. I never thought she & her dad would actually ask me though. And now I am conflicted for the following reasons:
>i am currently in my first job out of college. I was lucky to get this job because my boss was desperate to fill the position so I was hired to perform a job (HR) that new grads generally wouldn't get. Having this on my resume would help me get a leg up in my future career.
>However, it's a very stressful job that is really draining me. I was thinking I'd quit at the end of my first year so that I can at least list a full year on my resume and not look like a job-hopper.
>If I joined my friend's dad's business, I'd be leaving my current job at the 6-7 month mark. If this new thing doesn't work out and I have to go back to HR jobs, only having 6 months won't look good.
>Also, I've put a lot of blood sweat and tears into performing well at this place. If it won't even be a good reference/resume builder due to short employment time, it feels like a terrible waste.
>On the other hand, I'm only pursuing HR because I have a nonsense humanities degree. I don't really have a passion for it. I had accepted it as my fate to work a boring office jo for the rest of my life, but this new opportunity would involve great travel and the opportunity to get involved in a niche industry that I've always been fascinated with.
>However, even though he likes me and trusts me… her dad does not speak English. I don't know if he's really thought through how difficult it might be to take on an employee who you can't directly communicate with. I'd be willing to learn the language a little in order to get by, but I don't think I'll ever be super fluent (Chinese seems very hard)
>If this doesn't wind up going well, how will this affect my friendship? Do I really want to mix money into my only active friendship? My friend used to be kind of stubborn back in middle and high school, has she matured enough to make a good work partnership? I've kept in touch with her but I haven't hung out enough with her in the past few years to know.
>Her parents have always been so nice to me though and I know they like me and I don't think they'd willingly screw me over.
TLDR: What should I do? take a chance at a dream job and gamble with a friendship, or stay in my stable but soul-sucking career path? picrelated
No. 1368518
>>1367328>>1367549You should brazenly score yourself 10/10. No modesty.
Like, fuck you if you think I am going to spend time to criticise myself. You are not going to get me to put myself down, just so you can throw my own insecurities into my face at the next review.
Managers trying to get me to do their job. Their job is to manipulate people to prevent them from being too confident so they don't ask for too many raises and their lazy ass now wants to pawn off their work on me. Guess what motherfucker, I'll write a glowing review of myself and then I challenge you to call me up in the office and tell me I was wrong to my face.
They don't have the balls for that. I am too old to fall for their shit, and my advice to anyone is: make they say no. See how far you can push the envelope. At any place I worked, the most overpaid person was always some dudebro who REALLY behaved as if he was god's gift to mankind (I don't know if by oblivious ignorance or calculated).
No. 1369001
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One of my coworkers refused to renew his contract an Friday was his last day at the office. Thank fucking god. We're short-staffed but he felt like he was making things worse than better. He was so annoying, my manager implied she didn't want to renew his contract anyway because he doesn't know how to behave, yet he felt so smug, like he fucked her over by not renewing his contract.
He's basically the incarnation of all the negative stereotypes about gay men. He was a flaming faggot who acted and talked like he was on some kind of reality tv show, always yelling, sperging because of Céline Dion (who deserves better than a fanbase like that btw), would sperg hard over geopolitics and awkward topics like that during lunch break to look like an annoying SJW, etc. He was so offended because at some point our colleagues from another team told him he was being unprofessional by email. He showed me why, thinking I'd take his side… Turns out that his grasps on our language is so bad that he messed up a shit ton of important emails sent to newly hired apprentices and interns to the point where the emails were incomprehensible and made our client look unprofessional. These emails are LEGAL DOCUMENTS by default too. Keep in mind that those emails are a copypasted text that you have to feel with personal details about the new hires. I have no idea how he messed that up and ruined the job of the other team that way, but that's a huge achievement and he was so mad about it. We're always overworked but this guy was messing up his job so hard he gave himself more work to do and me and other coworkers had to help him catch up. Thank god I won't have to see his stupid face and hear his screeches. I also feel the same for another ex coworker who left even before that, good riddance, fuck off forever!
Sorry, I just needed to vent a little.
No. 1369029
>>1368554Don’t worry too much about what you’d be good at. You have time to become good at the thing. Think about jobs that pay well, aren’t too hard/expensive to break into and (this one is extra important) wouldn’t suck the soul out of your body or demand crazy hours.
Written communication is more important than face to face communication these days, so I think you’ll be okay.
No. 1369109
>>1368554I did (not at your age though) and it was pretty useless. It was multiple sessions and they made me think about who I am, how I function and what I'm good at etc. Basically taught me nothing I didn't already know/hadn't already thought about before. Then made me narrow career options and settle on one thing and, in hindsight, didn't correct me when I chose said thing with completely wrong motivations/expectations. I finally realized what I wanted to do in my mid twenties and it was something completely different.
Obviously that's just 1 experience and my specialist wouldn't be yours, but that's my experience.
No. 1369175
>>1369148culture will vary from office to office, I promise they're not all full of shitty republicans (although you'll have to deal with office politics anywhere you go unfortunately). anxiety is normal, but some of the best advice I've ever received is that the people interviewing/hiring/above you etc are just people. like, it's less scary when you realize the accounting manager interviewing you is just some guy if that makes sense
I'd also say start by looking at companies you like and see if they're hiring for entry level accounting jobs. since you're still in school, I'd definitely also reach out to your accounting professors and see if they have any connections. if they're a good professor, they should be more than happy to help you
No. 1369262
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I want to vent again. I hate this whole "we're a family" and office culture bullshit. When I started working in my current job I was hired at the same time as several other people because we formed a new team within the company and a few weeks after we started we learned that our manager's birthday was coming soon. Guess what? Some retarded bitches thought it would be a great idea to plan a surprise birthday party for lunch break for the manager! And they asked money from everyone to pay for a gift card and a cake! Which pisses me off so much because I don't give a fuck about anyone here at all and the manager loved it so much she decided to do the same thing for every single one of us. Now a year later, I don't give money to anyone unless I'm physically asked to face to face because I'd rather buy my own shit with that money but refusing upfront would make me look like some asocial piece of shit. I'm not rich, and I'm not your friend, fuck off and go buy you're shitty cinema tickets with your own money. And now the bitches who planned this to begin with left as soon as their contracts ended and will not stop shit talking the manager and some coworkers behind their backs.
I used to force myself to go out with coworkers somedays after work to just drink in bars except I don't drink alcohol so there's nothing for me to even enjoy besides drinking 6€ glasses of lemonade and apple juice and I stopped going once one of my coworkers insisted I go to a nightclub with him and some others for some reason? I told him I wouldn't be in the city the day he chose but have fun anyway and the guy decided to change the day for when I was coming back from a huge, famous anime con and take the train, and he was insisting that he'd go get me at the train station with my suitcase and everything. Even my retarded normie coworkers found it off-putting. You know these tv shows or movies where a random salaryman finds his life boring, meaningless and dull because he's working in a cubicle? I wish that were me. I wish I could just do my job and only interact with my normal, non-mentally, reasonable clients and nobody else.
No. 1369339
>>1369262out of curiosity nona, in which field do you work?
I feel like this is especially true in STEM.
No. 1369795
So I'm having a bit of a dilemma. I currently work full-time in the healthcare field as a medical lab technician, and while the money isn't great, it's better than most other places right now. My country has also been going through a hyperinflation these past few years, and fuel costs are currently a major concern (among other things), and since we only have one car in the family, it's causing a lot of strain on us, both money wise and transportation wise. Plus I don't really get along all that well with my coworkers, and it's a very demanding job both physically and mentally.
My fiancé currently works online as an English teacher, and keeps trying to persuade me to leave my current job and apply to also be an English teacher. He says I wouldn't have to worry about the car or fuel costs. His job also currently pays more than mine. The working hours are also a lot more flexible. I also would't have to leave the house or interact with bitchy colleagues (or patients).
The only problem I have with this is that I wouldn't be working in my chosen field. I majored in medical laboratory science. I spent a lot of time and money to earn this degree. I plan on eventually continuing my education and getting my masters once I'm more financially stable, and gaining work experience in the medical field would greatly help me with that, moreso than being an online English teacher. I guess I just don't want to feel like my education is going to waste.
No. 1370593
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How early in advance should I tell my boss about a long-ish vacation plan? I’m trying to do some travelling in June-July next year for about 30 days in total. By then I’ll have been at my job for just over a year and some of my friends are shocked I haven’t run it by my boss yet. For context I work in a pretty slow-paced office-based industry, sometimes it takes 30 days just for a decision to be made about a project moving forward.
No. 1370690
>>1370654>>1370662Nonnys, I got it. I GOT THE JOB!!!!! NO MORE DEALING WITH GROSS ASS SCROTES!!
>>1370666 If you have no real education look for remote data entry. If you have some money, look into medical coding as education and employment. 100% remote and actual companies are looking
No. 1372015
>>1370690AM CELEBRATING WITH U NONNERS
Bope you celebrate getting away from stinky workplace scrotes
No. 1372544
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I graduated college last year and have been unemployed since. I have an interview next week, the company is flying me out for it to their headquarters. I hope I get the job nonnies. I see people on forums say they think they did so well and ended up not getting a job offer. The company is pretty picky. I need to be prepared for what questions they may ask and seem social enough to their liking.
No. 1372952
I have an interview for an ideal job next week and I can't bring myself to start even preparing. I got the rug completely pulled out from under me the last interview I was in and it really took a mental toll, I was basically verbally guaranteed to get the job and then asked horrible questions that they knew I wouldn't be able to answer. My brain basically turned off and I couldn't even try to answer some of them. I'm terrified that will happen again, the brain-turning-off, like how the fear of having a panic attack maked you more prone to actually having one. So to prepare, I collated 50 sample questions to write down answers to, sorted by probability of being asked, so I can read off a template of pre-written answers in the Zoom interview. But that document is sitting almost empty for the past four days, and the interview is next Wednesday. I don't have a job or anything to do, so I should technically be able to just spend all day for a week working on it, as was my goal. But it seems so pointless to try so hard and then what if I fail or they (extremely likely) already have an internal candidate lined up. I've spent 24 solid hours writing material for this job to even get an interview and it all seems for nothing. But it will definitely be for nothing if I don't prepare as hard as I can for this interview… It's so difficult to find the motivation to try your hardest over and over again only to get rejected. Yet, the alternative is to barely try and get an awful job.
Just a vent. Job hunting is soul destroying.
No. 1379107
>>1379092I worked at Target over the summer when I came back from college and this was like 8 years ago. I remember it being extremely soul sucking and feeling so depressed and hopeless, but I don't say that to scare you. It's highly dependent on customer base, because I worked at a different retail chain after college and I had a really swell time kek.
I was a cashier, and once you learn all the buttons and shit, it just gets easier. Self checkout was the best because you didn't have to do shit except help whenever people needed help, but looking out for scammers got annoying. They might have updated the system to make it harder though (biggest self checkout scam was buying giftcards and we had to stop everyone who would buy a giftcard and direct them to a normal register). As a cashier, it just makes your life easier to agree with the customer and not fight over the price. I guess it's possible to get spoken to for changing the price of too much shit, but I knew a lot of people who would change/discount shit all the time and superiors generally didn't care unless it was like 50% a $200 item (which I did on my first week… I did get spoken to but it was just a warning kek). Not sure how the floor team does. I did a couple of shifts on the floor but I was never properly cross trained so it was mainly just me fumbling around. Wasn't terrible, but then again, I absolutely loathed being on the register (but in hindsight, register is probably the easiest, both to learn and do).
I would go for it. All retail sucks to some extent, but you could end up at a really good store. Honestly, even though my store sucked, I met a lot of really cool coworkers, so you might at least make friends or work friends who will make the day more tolerable.
No. 1379518
>>1372952Updating this.
I prepared successfully, was calm, and presented myself very well, but they seemed very uninterested in me. In the closing remarks, they said, 'Thank you for your optimism!' so yeah, safe to say I didn't get that one. Back to the drawing board…
No. 1380431
>>1379716Well, I find myself hoping that's the case, although it doesn't seem applicable here. I missed a call from them yesterday, the voicemail offered to give me feedback on the interview, which I take as a tacit rejection. Still holding out a slim hope though for when they call me back.
It would be pretty funny to get negged by a recruiter tbh, I feel like I have a pretty confident view of myself and my abilities, so I just take it as a bad fit if they don't seem to like me, rather than a reflection on myself. I wonder if I'd be able to tell or if the power dynamic of it would make me doubt myself.
No. 1380568
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I am so fed up with my part time job and my alcie moid boss who called me drunk on my vacation and begged me to cover for him bc he was going out drinking, and when I refused he called all my other coworkers too until one girl said yes. Now he refuses to give me more shifts than my contract says (2 times a month). He doesn't give a shit about the job and got the boss job just because my real boss worked so hard he ignored his leg infection and eventually had the leg amputated. He's been on sick leave for over a year. It's a food production company, and the products are so low quality, the hygiene is awful and the shop furniture is dirty and broken, the management doesn't care. And so much other stuff that I don't remember at the moment.
My current job is right next to my house and I love spending under 5mins walking to work. But I am so fed up I applied for a job an hour away by public transport. I got an interview with them after just a couple days after sending in my application, it's next week! I have to try to make up reasons for why I want to change my job, other than "I fucking hate my job and the company", shit talking my company would not be very good I reckon kek. I would have to move if I get the job though, but I have been intending to find an apartment closer to my campus and my moids job anyway (both in the same city as the job I applied to).
No. 1381834
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I'm a NEET now, anons. I talked about how I hated my job and how I wanted to leave in this thread, and well, I got it. Not upset at all, but it felt super abrupt because the company kicked me off after a meeting about my separation package, which meant I couldn't write a short little goodbye message to my teams. I figured that the company would want me to finish up my incomplete work before leaving, but I suppose not. Hmm. Anyway! I have enough savings to last me about two years, if I'm super thrifty, and maybe a year and a half if I'm a bit more lenient. Wish me luck, anons, that I can fix my habits into good ones and to make a successful lateral career move.
No. 1381978
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>>1369262I need to give an update: everyone is leaving the company or is considering it. They're talking among each other and complaining about a lot of shit I often agree with but I'm not close enough to them to learn more about it. Today was the last day of a girl who will not renew her contract for just one more month because she's pregnant and she wants a permanent contract instead. Two or three weeks ago it was that one incredibly annoying fag who left and a girl who got hired just a month ago left after two weeks of work because she's also pregnant. Two coworkers left nearly two months ago too. Half of our team is based in a different, way cheaper European country and I have no clue wtf they're doing right now because they're paired up with my coworkers. I have to do 90 recruitments or so before February and since a lot of people are coming and going I have to help train them, which makes me late in my own work, which makes my clients super fucking annoying. I'll get an apartment after I get surgery and after that I'll look for better jobs because on top of that we're getting way more work and we're severely underpaid.
A permanent coworker vaguely mentioned the possibility of him getting fired in the near future for no specific legal reasons, so now I've heard talk about how they might be trying to replace us with a way cheaper workforce, aka the guys from the other European country. My manager is lying through her teeth about how we're doing well because we're not! I'm fucking late in my work and it's going to fuck me over once I'm back from sick leave after getting a big ass tumor in one of my breasts and I know it. Oh but don't worry about that, we celebrate birthdays at the office and smile on camera during remote meetings! Yay! Guess what? The only day of remote work I asked for is Friday and it's the one day my manager won't give me, she gave me another one today and it's NOT FUCKING FRIDAY. Fuck.
No. 1382034
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i'm looking for a part time job to hold me over until I can get another full time job (i don't want to end up in another shitty FT job and feel trapped). this job posting made my blood boil. FIVE DAYS OF PTO? WHAT THE FUCK.
i'm almost tempted to work at the state liquor store for shit pay solely because they offer 21 days of PTO and 12 paid vacations, so 33 days of pto
No. 1382507
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>>1372544I did it nonnies!! I got the job! I can't wait but now I'm nervous as hell for the the training portion. Just waiting for the background check to clear and i'm good to go. My NEETdom is finally over.
No. 1382539
>>1382509Thanks
nonny! I'm still in shock kek
No. 1383791
Alright, it’s not gonna be easy but I’m gonna go back to school, I work a shitty convenience store job and my coworker was really annoying me today, it dawned on me that I do not want these types to be considered my peers, she smokes cigarettes and vapes while she is 9months pregnant, she is obese, and ignores me when I say things to her and acts weird and passive aggressive but also vents to me, like why would I give a shit?
>I called the store to let her know I would be running a little late
>”hey this is anon, I’m-“ she immediately hangs up on me
> I text her it cause wtf. Doesn’t respond, ever, but texts the group chat and asked me if I wanted to swap shifts.
>when I came in, she was like “you’re late!”
>tried joking with me and acting friendly
>literally racist, called burnt hot dogs “n**r black penises”
>^i told my boss and they did nothing, they don’t care because idk the job doesn’t require much etiquette or decency I guess..
>went on like 10 smoke breaks today within a 6 hour shift..
>also kept complaining about her pregnancy, “omg I can’t keep standing here all day!”
>also obese as fuck with her legs always spread and dented back at the knees
>she was supposed to be there til 10 but decided to get off at 9 when I get off and call the night guy to come in early.
>I jammed the safe drop machine and I am new and she was like explaining how to fix it in a condescending way.
>”you put your birthday in, you know your birthday don’t you?”
>I finish a transaction with a customer “don’t work too hard, have a good night! “ they say to me
>”haha, never.” She says loud enough for me to hear.
>called the cops on some teenager who shoplifted
>”STEALING IS BADD YALL IF SHE points at me STEALED, ID CALL THE COPS TOO!” she says the same sort of thing over and over to customers
>when the cops show up they say they couldn’t find anything on the girl.
>”Ok well she was drunk and keep her safe, that’s all I care about” she switches her tune
>just standing there, quietly, waiting for a customer
>”MY SISTER IN LAW SCREENSHOTTED MY FACEBOOK POST IT WASNT EVEN ABOUT HER”
>”SHE CANCELLED BABYSITTING BUT SHE SAID SHE WOULD AND I BLA BLA BLA”
>I nod and I’m like “oh.”
> she comes up to me and looks at me “I just post whatever and if you don’t like it you can unfriend me,”
I’m just fake smiling and nodding
I don’t care !
I hate you. You’re a disgusting, backwards hillbilly who literally smokes cigarettes while pregnant, I don’t understand what her deal is because she tries joking with me like I’m her friend but then sneak disses me and condescends me cause I’m new, fuck her. I literally need another job but most importantly I need to stop working minimum wage because I’m tired of low lives like this and convicts being my co workers. I also work on Halloween. Should I quit? This is really bad for my mental health..
No. 1384062
>>1383791Quit. Quit. Quit.
A job who keeps someone like that on the schedule does not give a fuck about anything, including the work environment/culture and its gonna be nothing but
toxic. You can find something else, I promise anything is better than that bs
No. 1384626
>>1384272careful here, she could make a psychotic enemy out of this woman which is not worth the pleasure of telling her off in my experience.
>>1383791ghost the job completely. best course of action. don't even go in for another shift, don't step foot on the property unless you're picking up your last check.
No. 1385480
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thread pic fodder
sage for not really contributing
No. 1385610
>>1385515No way in hell that a person like her is well-liked. Very, very few people would spit in customers food, and even fewer would do so on the behalf of their boss even if their boss was Jesus reincarnate.
Telling her to fuck off isn't going to be easy. Be polite enough but firm and straightforward. Say that you're busy and that you don't have time to talk and that you have no intention of working retail ever again. Don't make it personal, even if it is.
If she still harasses you while you're shopping, speak to corporate about it before confronting her more firmly, directly telling her that you want to shop in peace and quiet. If she tries to retaliate by getting you banned from the store or some shit (who knows, given how crazy she seems already) you'd have gotten your side of the story in first.
No. 1385734
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Any software testers here? How does a day look like for you? What coding languages do you need to know?
No. 1385821
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pic not really rel, i'm going all out looking for a job, wish me luck nonas.
i'm trying to keep my head up even if not having a job is doing numbers on my anxiety; it's terrifying and really motivating.
No. 1385969
>>1385734I'm also interested in this. I just interviewed for my first full time job as a developer using java and SQL… I would be curious to see what it's like.
(Also, speaking of my interview, I made it to round two it seems, but I was so nervous the whole time I must have made a thousand mistakes. I had to write code in front of the interviewer. Which was expected but nerve-racking.)
No. 1385998
>>1385734Also, which would be a better fit for someone with no programmer background, software tester or UX designer?
>>1385969Congrats on round 2, nonna! And yeah, I imagine showcasing your skills in front of strangers must be really anxiety-inducing
No. 1386209
>>1385998>>1385884I program for a living. My only experience with this is an internship doing QA automation, and I graduated with a degree in CS, but nobody else has responded so I'm going to put in my two cents.
>which would be a better fit for someone with no programmer background, software tester or UX designer?Hm, this is a tough question. I think that person would be more likely to enjoy UX design and be more likely to be "qualified" (on paper) for entry-level jobs in UX design, but it's probably much easier to break into QA.
A quick comparison:
Neither QA nor UX design
require you to know how to code.
However, your upward mobility + pay as a QA person / manual tester will be really limited if you don't learn to code.
UX design is hard to break into because you're competing with every psych major that doesn't want to do more school to become a licensed therapist. It's also more creative, which people value for obvious reasons.
QA is really unglamorous. QA automation bored me to tears, and it was still much more engaging than the little bit of manual testing that I did. I don't have this problem with the coding I currently do for a living.
Places that still have software QA departments are disproportionately boomer-ass companies with software that's lagging behind in innovation. So if you do code, expect stuff like Java and SQL, even if python would be a better fit for the task.
Places with UX designers will tend to be more "hip" and likely to offer fun tech perks like free food or beer on tap or whatever. You also are less likely to have to learn to code, as you'd probably only really need it if you worked at a pretty small company and were also doing UI design.
>a day in the lifeAs a QA automation intern, my day was
>go to standup for like a fucking hour >work on my assignment, which was usually writing code to implement really trivial test cases that seemed more intended to piss off future devs than ensure that things are working. >if manual testing, follow some really rite steps to document any errors. This was easy and fine when the programs weren't very buggy, but dong this with software that was fucked was agonizing because you sort of become blind to the errors when every action breaks three things. >file individual bug reports in a shit tier program that is itself buggy as fuck. Question why your company doesn't just use the ticket system that they pay for. >ask assigned buddy for some help with writing a test for something new. you show him a prettyprint() function, which blows his little business major mind. Despite lacking basic knowledge, he is one of the most competent ICs on the team. >attend some random meetings every once in a while. Be unsure what the purpose of them is. >Finish writing automated tests. Get people to review them, and they disinterestedly check off your work. Even they don't care what they're doing. >sign off for the day, ready to work on a new set of test cases tomorrow morning. This is a little dramatic, but I personally did not like that job lmao. If you think you'd enjoy doing rote stuff day in and day out while zoning out and listening to music, it could definitely be comfy. But as an intern, I wasn't there long enough to feel really comfortable with the work, so it both was boring and difficult enough that I had to focus on it.
To get the best feel for what jobs will require, you should look at some entry-level job listings in your area and areas you'd consider working in.
No. 1388032
>>1388025Hey Nona, I say this with kindness but if you have no marketable skills, you need to take whatever you can for at least a year, so you have something for your resume. No one is going to want to hire someone that doesn't have a degree, or work experience and is not well rounded in the work environment. Still look for at home jobs, but just lie and say you're willing to answer phones or whatever. Most of the time you're just reading off a script anyway so if you have phone anxiety there's not that much thinking involved. Even if it isn't scripted they'll probably train you on how they expect you to take calls.
>>1386100Kek, I ended up calling out yesterday and I tried to go in today and leave early but my boss told me to stay home. I'm relieved because I still feel like shit but damn that's going to hurt my paycheck.
No. 1388056
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>have lost my job due to automation
>can't study anything since I am constantly worrying that whatever I am studying will get automated and I am just wasting my time
No. 1388076
>>1388071What about chat-based customer service? You know when you go on a webshop or whatever and an employee (not a bot) live chats with you if you have questions. Not sure how plenty they are, but those jobs do exist, I've applied for them myself before.
Also you've got one thing going for you: worker shortages in a lot of places in the West, so you should try to apply even if you think your chances are low. They might be more desperate to take just anyone than you think.
No. 1390114
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Nonnies I need some tough love and advice about my situation.
I have been selling stuff online - I made 6000$ in the first months of casually selling which I guess isn't too bad - and I really like it. I've been thinking maybe learning much more about how to spot items, reconditioning stuff, etc., but the ol' "what if this is dumb?" roadblock because I really haven't ever put my all into something before - dumb fanfics aside when I was 12 - and I'm starting to get doubts.
I am, well…socially disabled. I am a diagnosed autistic, have jaw issues that make it physically hard to speak, and I am a mess and I'm very much afraid of ending up homeless in a few years. I've gotten into the habit of investing 100$ a week in safe investments out of abject fear, too. I don't know if I should kick my ass and just try getting the worst real job I can, even if I really do enjoy selling. The other day I found a 200$ book and sold it for a massive profit and it was, idk…satisfying.
No. 1395606
I'm having a dilemma at work. I recently got promoted to a position where I oversee a group of people. There's one scrote who's absolute awful, difficult to work with, and is genuinely terrible at his job. He's been in trouble before for his behavior and was even put on work probation. My supervisor would have fired him long ago but corporate is afraid to let him go because he's gay/claims to be a troon (he's not, just wants attention) so they're worried he'll sue for discrimination. He's also not white so he tries to pull the race card too (which is stupid because most of my co workers are poc, as am I. There's other non-straight people too.).
Anyway, this week he's been calling out sick. He's a known liar and is always claiming to be in the hospital, but since no one can 100% prove he's bullshiting he gets away with it. It was pretty obvious he was faking when he called me but I let it go. But this time I stumbled upon concrete proof he was lying. The same time he was suppose to be "throwing up, laying in bed because he couldn't breathe" he was literally on social media posting about how he was driving to another state for vacation. This morning he said he was in the hospital but there are time stamped/geo tagged posts about him being currently at some resort.
Now I don't like snitching and won't pretend like I've never lied to get out of work. But this guy sucks and I have proof he was breaking company policy. If I tell, it might serve as ammunition to get him fired, especially if he tries to provide a fake doctor's note. But it feels slimey to tell and it might not even be enough to actually do anything, so I could just end up looking like a fool.
Either way I probably won't say anything until I feel like there's no way he can deny my claims (which means waiting a little longer for more evidence) but I'm tempted to tell my supervisor to see what he'll say.
What do think nonnies? Snitch or keep my mouth shut?
No. 1395741
>>1395616>>1395679Thank you for the input! My supervisor and I are on good terms and have great rapport. I think you're right, I should present the information in a more subdued way instead of coming in hot. I'm gonna wait until the guy returns to see how deep the lies go then I'll start the snitching process. It's for the best.
Can't wait to see the look on that dunbass's face when he finds out he's caught. He's always so smug because he thinks we're all dumb enough to believe his lies when in reality people at work don't have the energy to confront him. Well now he's gonna know I'm not stupid so he can't fuck with me kek. Thanks again nonnies!!
No. 1396868
depression has completely fucked me up because I now have a rock bottom I know I can hit and it makes me not gaf about anything
I'm resigning from my job and am barely doing anything, not even coasting, just slacking off and waiting for my final day to come…it's a shitty company with shitty people and shitty pay, and I should at least make some effort but I just want to drop everything and ignore my inbox
>>1395741please update us!
>>1396676it's the only way to have energy for actual life, right?
No. 1397463
I’m a full time college student who started working a second part-time job last month because I thought I could handle it. I mean, I (barely) had the extra free time, and I basically need the money. I told my now-boss that handling the work load shouldn’t be an issue.
I feel guilty now, because for the sake of my mental health, I really want to quit soon. I didn’t realize that there really is such a thing as working too hard. I never ever have a day to myself anymore. I would’ve gone insane if I had to work this weekend, but my car got a flat tire and had to be towed, which gives me an excuse not to go to work.
Again, I feel guilty and like the person anon is describing here
>>1394237 but I’ll be transferring to one of the best universities in my country next semester and know I won’t be able to handle a tougher school work load plus working my entire weekend away.
Does anyone have any tips for my situation? Do I just accept being a disappointment, take the L, and move on?
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>>1397278I bet you get it next time, anon! I've had to retake licensure tests for my job and I know how bad it feels. It sucks how expensive they are, too. Anyway, I believe in you.
No. 1398034
I had an interview a couple days ago for an admin position at a tech company, and have since been contacted asking if I would be interested in an entry level technician role instead. The thing is that I have no formal technical training or experience, I'm just a hobbyist. I recorded the call and played it back to transcribe so I could read it, and it doesn't seem like a misunderstanding, the man I interviewed with apparently said he 'saw something in me' and 'felt hiring me just for an admin role would be doing me a disservice' and that he 'saw a future for me in tech.'
I was initially extremely suspicious and feeling like it has to be a mistake, but the more I read about it, it seems like I've been thrown a lifeline and a shot to have an actual career. I'm 27 and have no education and only three years of semi-retail job experience, so even getting a comfy admin job I thought would be a stretch. My intention was always to schmooze my way into an organisation by sounding smart and professional and after a few years convince them that I would be better suited to a technical role. But to be just handed it on a silver platter? I'm just worried that it seems too good to be true, and that I'm going to show up and be utterly humiliated, or not be able to keep up.
I'm going in on Monday to speak with the company again to have them tell me about the role they're offering. The more I think about it, the more excited I am. I'm just still waiting for the other shoe to drop.
No. 1398237
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I just got directed to an application to be a manager. My life was going so fucking terrible, I used to want to commit suicide by the time I was 18. My father died last year, I never got in a relationship and got bullied heavily my entire life, both online and physically. I made it. I constantly got told that as a woman, ever since I was a little girl, I was meant to only have kids, etc. I fucking made it. I just invested to my financial advisors a few days ago. I'm so fucking excited.
No. 1398249
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Two long time supervisors got fired TODAY. They were gone for a while and suddenly HR sent an email over saying they were no longer with the company. I'm in awe. I was trained by one of them for 4 months. This might be a sign to keep my eyes and ears out for other jobs. It's becoming exhausting here. I have before my birthday at the end of this month to make a final decision.
No. 1398261
>>1398239Thanks
nonny, i am glad you are doing fine. What did you study? I was thinking about something STEM related but the cons outweight the pros right now.
>>1398241Thanks one of reasons i though about college was because i am tired of trying to be how my mom wants me to be(extroverted) and i spend most of my time learning skills through youtube.
>You could work a trades job or sell your soul to produce coomer art on the side for the financial stability but maybe studying for 4-6 yrs with internships inbetween, SWF commissions for extra cash, and some job interviews your junior and senior yr in college would be healthier.Commissions were so fucking soul crushing i would rather die than go back kek
No. 1398278
>>1398261I started college in energy production and environment engineering but I switched to biochemistry after about a year. I’m really enjoying my current major, even if I want to cry while doing physics and chemistry a lot lol.
And about the socializing: I’m kind of a sperg but I’ve managed to find friends, my class is really nice and I’ve even partied a bit. Don’t feel pressured though, but do take advantage of meeting new people if you feel like it. But no one thinks anything about it if you prefer to keep to yourself, that’s fine too!
No. 1398292
>>1398288I believe in you
nonny!!
No. 1398465
>>1388054Don't know if you're still here but holy hell girl pull yourself together. The (and I mean this with kindness)
victim complex in you is insane. The other anon is right, you have 0 skills that make you an asset and you have to make consessions to get a job. I'm telling you this as a (previously) mostly nonverbal autistic with agoraphobia. You need to get over this "uwu I'm just a human disaster" mindset and take the time to push outside of your comfort zone. The only job I could get with no experience or degree where i live was call center and i maybe speak 10 words a month. Yeah the first few days were terrifying, but after a week I was doing fine. You're not literally retarded, you're just too scared of the shame and guilt that comes with being bad at stuff and that anxiety keeps you from focusing on growing your expertise at all.
You're going into it basically setting yourself up to have panic attacks because you're thinking you'll be awful. Who cares? If they hire you, they're expecting you to need to learn. Focusing on failing is retarded, just go in and try to learn and see how it goes.
I was not the best employee in the call center given my limitations but I went from basically not talking at all to being able to hold down that job for a year because I focused and didn't infantilize myself or assume I'm somehow just too retarded to succeed. You can do it, but not until you focus yourself enough to quell the anxiety that comes with presumption of inevitable failure.
No. 1398481
>>1398465>Yeah the first few days were terrifying, but after a week I was doing fine.Samefagging to clarify. By normie standards, I wasn't doing great but I was doing better than I ever thought I would and I never got fired even if I wasn't the highest performer. And it helped me get more comfortable with talking in general and helped my non-existent conversational skills, too. It helps to approach it hoping to grow from it, too. Good luck,
nonnie.
No. 1398565
>>1398465NTAYRT but thank you for sharing, I needed to hear this. I've been tough on myself for not meeting my career/life goals at all, but it's turned into a
victim complex/"why bother" mentality.
No. 1398597
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>>1398585I'm sorry
nonnie. I've had the happen once and it's tilting. It makes you feel invisible. It's okay, sometimes I have to remind myself that it's not out of malice. Sometimes people are egocentric. If it wasn't you it would have been another quiet employee. Keep heart.
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>>1398585I'm so sorry that happened. I'm sure they didn't mean anything by it?
No. 1398618
>>1398597It’s especially hurtful because I’m not quiet, i talk to everyone and my coworkers knew I was looking forward to the lunch. If it was my other coworker (who is the same age as me), everyone would be scrambling to look for her, they would call/text her or wait for her to return.
I don’t know what I did to deserve this.. all they say is we couldn’t find you on repeat and play ignorance.
I’m thinking of going to hr to tell them that it upset me but I truly think they won’t give a fuck and all my coworkers will think I’m an asshole for saying something.
No. 1398619
>>1398465nonny I’d like to offer you a job as my life coach , this was very motivational
>>1398585I’m so sorry that happened to you, that sounds really painful. Don’t do suicide because of your aloof coworkers. I know how it is to feel alienated and alone in the office. Your worth isn’t contingent on whether the other cubicle people appreciate you.
No. 1399030
>>1398986First, build a good CV, you can find good templates online. If you have big gaps where you were unemployed, make up something like you were taking care of an ill relative or you were freelancing or something. Then register on sites like LinkedIn and Indeed and start applying for jobs. Apply to at least 10 places a day and don't be disappointed if they don't answer you at all or send you a generic 'thank you for your application but…' email. In my experience, recruiters get back to you in 3-7 days on average.
Tip for the CV: try and tailor your CV to each position you apply to. Use similar vocabulary to what they wrote in the job ad. If you don't have job experience at all, have your CV start with your education and your skills
No. 1399845
>>1398585It doesn't sound like they did it maliciously. I wouldn't dwell on it.
>>1398465This is good advice.
No. 1400914
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just applied for a health services traineeship after not finishing my last yr of hs (due to mental illness) and being in neetdom for a couple of yrs afterwards. wish me luck, nonnas. i highly doubt i'll get the position, but i think it was a big, positive step for me regardless; it's my first job application i've ever sent. i plan to study normally if i dont get the position, which is highly likely.
No. 1401204
>>1401185If it really was your coworkers that snitched on you then they are assholes. But at most places, they also monitor work devices so maybe she could see your Internet usage after all
>I guess my only ideas are I need to be sneakierYeah, that would be my idea as well. Use only your phone for browsing and maybe cover it with something, a notebook or a folder or a batch of printouts or something so your coworkers don't notice it
No. 1401209
>>1401203What do you do when you are finished with your work?
>>1401204Maybe my boss was lying but she specifically told me that my coworkers had complained about me.
I feel like using my phone would be even less sneaky. Like wouldn’t they obviously see Im not working?
No. 1401804
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Any other big tech nonnies dealing with a tension headache right now?
No. 1401835
>>1401804Am not big tech but I spend +8 a day staring at the doom box. I got blue light glasses and when I remember to use them the strain on my eyes feels lifted.
making me nervous to eventually transition into stem from my office job TBH, I'm already getting the headaches>>1401746>What does "presentable appearance" actually mean?For me it means clean hair styles neatly in a bun or ponytail. If it's loose it's because my hair has been recently straightened
(I'm black with an Afro. I love it but I understand employers are assholes and view it as unprofessional unfortunately). If you have clear skin, you just wear a little mascara and a natural lip tint/lipgloss. If you have acne put on concealer and some powder. Clothes should be sleek and clean, most likely in black or navy blue. Usually I'll wear a blouse, slacks and a blazer with some flats (if I'm fancy heels). No jeans (you can maybe get away with black jeans if they're clean and you wear a blouse tucked in with a decent/not old looking belt and some solid flats/low heels).
Hope this helps. As a reference I'd google business casual. It's what most interviewers will expect you to show up in. If you feel overdressed you're doing good and you'll stand out positively.
No. 1401912
>>1401343They actually offered, I formally accepted this afternoon. I'm getting hired for a role that they admit I'm not at present ready to do, but I'll be getting paid for 50% of company time to be training for the first 3-6 months, however long it takes to actually get up to speed. Expectations are incredibly low for those 3-6 months, like no client-facing or solitary work; the point at which I can do those things is the point at which I will be fully able to fulfil the role. Then I can specialise into whatever I want. Being encouraged to think about it and make 3-5 year goals. Will immediately start training on one particular speciality coding-adjacent thing as they believe I have the proper mentality for it, and will get whatever certifications I want paid for for as long as I'm with the company. I was given very detailed information with regards to career progression and a realistic timeline for attaining some pretty big numbers. They seem very genuinely enthusiastic about me.
I'm ecstatic tbh, I always hoped this would happen eventually, that someone somewhere would finally see that I'm not retarded and can do solid technical work if they were just willing to take a chance, and I would repay them by devoting all of my autistic dedication to the company and learning as much as possible. Couldn't possibly have a better opportunity. All from submitting a random CV for a stupid slavewoman position.
No. 1401958
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Anyone else here have a STEM degree but no real experience or love for it? More specifically: anyone here have that, plus an office job/something not retail? Going to be graduating soon with a bachelors in CS, but all I'll have portfolio-wise is a UI/UX project (which my professor…admittedly, gave me lots of compliments on + used as an example for how to do it) and that's it. I'd like to work in UI/UX (preferably doing very little coding, just messing around in Adobe/Figma) but I'm also fine with a basic office job. Haha.
>Why did you go for CS…
Wanted a flexible, but not easy-looking, degree.
No. 1401967
>>1386209NTA but this is helpful, actually. Nice
nonnie ty for the tips.
No. 1402262
>>1401958I'm in a similar situation, graduating soon with a CS degree and I don't like coding and have no portfolio
have no idea what to even do with this degree, I'm thinking I'll just go be an english teacher in japan or get an internship at the in-laws tailoring business even though I won't use my degree for either
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>Hashtag Layoff, ugh
Yeesh, why do people take this lying down? Would it kill them to act more upset about it online so that the news can make their drama headlines?
No. 1402560
>>1401958Damn I relate to this. I used to work on a video game team, but the work was only temporary and now I'm looking for a CS job so I can have more job security. I don't hate CS, but I don't love it either. I just want to use it so I can get somewhere more secure in life (I don't know if I've ever been financially secure in life, and it's not even due to anything in my control, just 'my family is poor' kind of situation).
I graduated a little while ago and I actually have some interviews lined up but every time I've had an interview so far I've felt slimy. I feel like the people (mostly moids) who work in CS make my skin crawl. I don't even want a super-duper high paying job, I just want to be able to afford basic health care and be able to save up for therapy. I've wanted therapy my whole like but can't afford it. Well, not gonna blog about it here. I guess the moral of the story is that I was mostly motivated by money when picking this career, and while I don't hate the content itself, I really hate these other CS dudes.
I'm genuinely thinking about looking for a job that requires a degree but isn't in CS. I don't know how I'd explain it to my parents, though…
No. 1403170
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Nonas, I just went through an online interview! I don't want to tell anyone IRL in case it goes nowhere, but I'm pretty excited cause usually I don't even go through interviews and they made some time concessions to interview me, so I believe that's a good sign that they liked my resume, right?
I'm so nervous, I was sweating a lot. It's an HR outsourcing company, but the client that I'd work for is pretty huge, it's a Chinese company. I have some experience working for asian superiors, so I guess that was something that caught their attention.
The company itself is pretty far and I'd have to wake up really early, but I think it'll be worthy it cause I'll leave retail and earn basically double. Also, no working on weekends.
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I have a health check for my new job starting in January, the doctor said it has lab tests? I assume it's a drug test. The lab test will be in like a month, I have not consumed weed like in few weeks, and use it veeeery infrequently. I hope it does not show up on the test, pray for me nonnas.
No. 1403189
My job is making me depressed. I think there's too much responsibility put onto me as a supervisor. Too many times someone will call off and we won't get it covered and I'll have to be the one to come in. Last week I had to go in at 2am after getting out at 7pm that night. I honestly think there needs to be a second supervisor or something because I can't be adjusting my schedule last minute and staying +13 hours in a row. I'd be fine covering someone's shift on my regular 10 hour shift, but anything else, I really dislike. Also the fact I'm the only supervisor, my hours are smack dab in the middle of the day, there's no time for me to do anything before and after work. I have to wait till the weekend to get laundry done and I'm stressed and stressed if I am too exhausted during the weekend to do laundry. Even on the weekend I'm anticipating someone calling or texting to say they can't make it in and then I'm spending the next hour making calls or telling the workers, "Hey bad news you might have to stay for 8 extra hours." Even the other weekend, I got asked to come in for 2 hours from midnight to 2am. Nothing happened, but it's the fact I had to mentally prepare myself to be in attendance. I feel empty, I cried myself to sleep because I had to come in 3 hours earlier and I'm struggling in bed trying to get tired. My boyfriend said I shouldn't be a supervisor anymore, it's detrimental to my health. I'm starting to agree. Unless we can get another supervisor, I think I'm going to call it quits in about 2 months. I've been supervisor for a little over 2 months and it's not what I was expecting.
No. 1403408
>>1401185this is why i work remotely now. I shouldn't be penalized for being a faster, better worker than my peers. I was doing on par or better, took a ton of new clients on, was performing everything perfectly, and the performance review was crappy because I took a few 5 minute sanity breaks on my phone between different clients to recharge. Now with remote I am honestly browsing the net half the day, but still have outstanding job performance and my managers love me. I'm good at my job and efficient.
Your coworkers are nasty backstabbing gossips and jealous of you. Get out of there. That is a
toxic environment and you'll get burned. management needs to get it through their thick skulls that we are not robots and we can't be working literally every second for 8 hours straight. Breaks give better performance in the end. But that's 2hard4management to comprehend. When you bash and bully and hound your workers, it doesn't make them work better, it makes them miserable and unmotivated. They need a chill pill. Especially when we all know management is in the back screwing around all day. At one job I worked in office, the HR office had a literal entire table with a puzzle on it for them to play with during hours. But they want to wring the people doing the actual value adding labor like wet rags until they break.
No. 1404930
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I want a better career path but it feels pointless. I have ADHD and a processing disorder,and Im also just bad at studying. Im a big doofus. In all my 21 years I've never held a job for over 6 months. I dont even have a high school diploma or GED so im stuck working garbage minimum wage jobs. Im working on getting back into school but idk what im even gonna do after that…get another shitty minimum wage gig? I want a 9 to 5,maybe a secretary position or something? So I'm working on picking up a second language. At the moment Im learning italian! Not a lot of people in my area that speak the language and quite a few jobs looking for italian speakers! The problem is that cant be all i need. Speaking another language might help but idk what else I can do to get a leg up other than go to community college which I just dont have time for. Idk how to write a really good resume either and learning italian is taking longer than i thought. What can I do to boost my chances of getting a better job once i finally earn my HSD?
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>>1403205Thanks anon! I have a follow up interview today with the client's representative! I'm so nervous I'm actually getting butterflies whenever I think about it. The scheduling was super tight, so we could only open the interview window after my shift. I hope I don't look too shitty, I packed a dress shirt but honestly I don't even know if that will look good. Now I am wondering if the interviewer will be a chinese person so it'll be in english or someone from my country. Hopefully the latter cause I'm pretty sure chinese people are more judgey about looks, for better or for worse.
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Told something to my team members in confidence when we went out for coffee only to have them bring it up in the office while the whole room was dead quiet and everyone could hear them. Some of you have said before not to treat coworkers like friends and that’s a lesson I’ve just learnt the hard way. Never telling these two anything personal again.
No. 1405841
>>1403176You're almost certainly fine if you smoke infrequently. If you want to play it safe, make sure you're well-hydrated (but not ridiculously so) the day of.
>>1403189You should leave ASAP. Start looking for other jobs now so you have more leverage and can be more free to reject offers for jobs that seem as shitty as your current one. Don't wait until after you've quit, as frustrating as interviewing while employed can be.
>>1405170They either have no sympathy for people who have to ride the bus, or they're trying to get you to quit. Either way, it's not a great environment to be in.
If you must keep this job for whatever reason, get it in writing that you cannot work those hours. Show up to your scheduled shifts, but leave when you have to and be very clear as to why you're clocking out.
No. 1405910
>>1405812Damn, I would have called him out right then and there. "dude, I said it to you in private, why are you bringing this up now?"
Show your coworkers that he's a sly bitch and a snake.
No. 1405914
>>1402866Thanks for the help.
>>1402560>>1402262Good luck to all of us, honestly. Will be glad to be out of university soon
No. 1405935
>>1405232Update: I was completely intimidated (there was both a chinese lady and an ABC lady there) and I was wearing my shift clothes (couldn't change) and to make things worse, I was caught by surprise by some pretty heavy rain. It was probably one of the worst interviews that I went through lmao
Although I'm cringing at the shit I said
and didn't say, I already made peace with the fact that I'm not getting the job. Hope this means I'll get something closer to home. At least I'm not unemployed, things could be way worse.
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I'm putting my notice in on the 1st of december & I'm leaving this super draining job on the 23rd of that month. It literally can not come fast enough. That said, I work in a VERY small office (only me, my boss, and one other woman) and I am horrified to imagine how weird and passive aggressive they will be for the 3 weeks after I give my notice. Does anyone have experience navigating that sort of situation? I'm gonna feel super guilty because my resignation will throw the business into chaos mode and I made it seem like I was in it for the long-haul, but am going to be leaving after only 6 months.
No. 1406021
>>1405975I'm in this exact situation too anon (also said i would be in it for the long haul but it's been just over 6 months and I can't stand it for much longer), except i haven't put my notice in yet.
I'm quietly applying and interviewing for other jobs but I hate my current job so much that I kind of just want to quit even if I have nothing lined up yet…
No. 1406038
>>1405975Congratulations on your next step. Mental health is way more important than a company and their feels. At least they'll have a notice.
Wow are we all the same person? I've been at my office a little longer
and will probably end up there for a year at the rate I'm going. The boss keeps dropping hints about how some companies only hire temporary, but they don't. Kek. Only difference is, I think he can tell from my resume I tend to trade in jobs. Let us know how it goes.
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any nonnas have experience starting a small business or being self employed? I am at a crossroads in my own career path, between continuing to pursue the industry I’ve been in the last year, returning to a previous one that I’ve already felt unsuited for, entering a whole new industry and using learning the unknown to motivate myself, or finding a way to work for myself so I never have to hate another boss. I know I’ll get by regardless of what I choose, because if it doesn’t work out or is the “wrong” choice I can just stick with what I know, but what I know is wageslaving and I want to make more money for my family and my partner’s family’s future. I want to provide a stable future for her and for her family, and for my own as well because I know my parents worry which of my sisters and I will support them as they near retirement age. even if you aren’t self employed or in a small business, what are some good industries to work in? I know every industry will have its challenges for women at an entry level especially, but I wonder if anyone who actually enjoys their job or the work they do could weigh in. thinking, thinking, asking, bargaining, and thinking some more.
No. 1412293
Can I ask for some advice, background:
>I’ve been with my department for almost 6 years,
clerks recently left so it’s me, another 2 clerks(been there for years, older, under another supervisor but under same unit) a senior typist clerk(always misses days outta the week), so recently,
>the way has been divide between me and the senior but because she’s not always there so I get most of the work, recently I wanted the other two clerks to help out but they are useless and everyone knows they are but will not assign them work because they do a bad job or something. So it’s gets pass to me
>So I started for applying for everything, I’m on a few lists for other jobs but so far only got offered a lateral transfer
>the new place is down the street from my house, m to Thursday, Friday’s off, can’t telework until 6months and maybe they will offer it and it’s probably one day outta the week, it’s an hr department so different from my old one
>old job, teleworking a few times a week, job is not hard and manageable, can do school work sometimes on shift,
>I’m stuck with loyalty and being comfortable but I dont like certain ppl and feel like it’s unfair
>what would you go? Go with the transfer to a new dep?
No. 1412322
>>1412293Is the staffing issue in your current department a temporary one? Do you know if they're actively hiring to fill the position or are they just sort of hoping they can get away with paying effectively 1.5 people to do the job of 3? Are the issues you have with people purely job related, or are they also personal?
One thing to keep in mind is that the new department may have the same or even worse issues than what you're dealing with now. Its a gamble unless you can get someone who already works there to talk candidly with you about it. But that sort of uncertainty would exist with any job change, so you need to weigh the pros and cons of what you factually know already about the position.
No. 1412436
>>1412322From what I was told, they are having issues getting clerk to come work at particular location. They were interviewing for auditors for the department yesterday. And it seems like that’s more important than getting clerks. They tell me they are looking but 4 clerks have left since I’ve been there.
I do realize that I could fuck up and possible hate the new job. When I ask the 2 other clerks to help they are sooo unresponsive and the senior clerk does do her job she’s just never there? Another auditor that I have a relationship with was trying to ask me to stay and to “ignore them and do my work” but that just made me even more annoyed.
No. 1413437
>>1412093Do the math, are you more likely to be the
victim of a school shooter or a
victim of violent crime in your city? That should give you some perspective.
No. 1415032
>>1412239>hopefully have a real job by the time I'm 30oml nona. You are nowhere near too old. Maybe if you were already 35…
It's not difficult at all to get hired out of college if you're still a youngish adult. I know many men who graduated at age 26-34-ish that didn't have an issue securing a job offer before graduating. You might be deprioritized by companies like Meta, who are gambling to secure the smartest, brightest, highest-achieving people straight out of college, but non-FAGMAN companies are often aiming to secure steady, mature, reliable workers, and late 20's early 30's adults are great for that, even if they're still fresh college grads.
As for the maternity leave thing…
In tech, I don't think bias against women of childbearing age is strong enough that you won't be able to get hired or make a career in tech. I absolutely do think it exists, and that will result in you getting fewer job offers, which means less negotiating power and lower total compensation.
On a job-by-job level, you'll especially be discriminated against by startups, some consulting firms, or small, high-stress teams, since the hiring managers will be very aware that their jobs will get much harder if somebody has to take leave. In more established companies, it'll be much less of a concern, as they tend to have enough staff to compensate for stuff like this, and the work tends to be work where deadlines are a bit less important. For your first job, it's pretty likely you won't even interview with your eventual team manager because of how companies do initial team placement. Plus, if a US company really doesn't want employees to get pregnant, they just won't offer more than the minimum 12 weeks of unpaid maternity leave. If you're planning on taking maternity leave at some point, I'd recommend looking for a company that also offers significant paid paternity leave.
Sexism definitely makes things more difficult and will probably end up with you being compensated less well than your male peers, but I don't think it's a significant barrier to starting a career in tech, so long as you have a degree. (I suspect that for bootcampers and self-taught devs, the bias is much, much stronger).
>>1412292I recently hired someone through Rover to feed my cat and hang out with her twice a day while I was on vacation. The money isn't awesome for sitters with few reviews, but it seems like a very chill side-gig if the places you're visiting aren't far.
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I have a feeling that our team (consisting of me and another girl) will be layed off at the end of the year. We are an outsourcing team and we've been getting less and less tasks for 2 months now. Most of our tasks are allocated to the Indian outsourcing team, and since the company we're working for is based in the UK, a layoff would make sense since they're sliding into a bad recession and all. My teammate has the same feeling.
Also, side rant: I hate this outsourcing structure. Idk if anyone else had this experience working as outsourcees, but you're constantly reminded that you're just 'serving' the outsourcers and you get this feeling that you are at the bottom of a hierarchy
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Just had a phone interview and it actually went super well! I know it's just a phone interview, but the interviewer was super friendly and willing to listen to what I had to say. The pay is better than my current job (not by much, but still) and I wouldn't have to work on weekends. Also it's tangentially related to my major. They even understood that I can't leave my retail job immediately and have to fulfill my notice. I don't know if this is going anywhere, but I didn't feel like a complete idiot during the interview, so that's a big plus lmao
No. 1417038
>>1415547I work with an IT team of people older than me and it's fine, but recently they've been hiring younger indian men to take over. It's really unnerving, but I don't want to work with them. Why are so many indian men big in tech and IT, especially in my area?
I really hope you'll be okay, anon, but make sure to search for other jobs to be safe. I am doing the same.
No. 1417179
i'm
>>1410877 and thank you nonnies for the kind words! it means a lot to me
>>1417061hardware hacking! i majored in electrical engineering with a minor in cs in college.
No. 1421461
>>1418865Agreed. A lot are very hard workers and very smart, so despite cultural differences making some things more difficult, they're absolutely a credit to the team.
But man, some absolutely refuse to communicate in a sane way. When I have a communication issue with female coworkers in India, I can almost always talk them out in a reasonable amount of time. But a significant chunk of Indian men (especially ones who haven't lived in the US) do this thing where they act really confident and pretend that there's no problem at all until you specifically call them out on their bullshit (which is, of course, very rude in American culture, so it takes an exceedingly long time to get to that point). And they'll do this all the time over the littlest things, so they never get any work done. Even though outsourced SWE jobs pay maybe 1/3rd as well, it can't be worth hiring people who don't speak English well AND have massive hangups about admitting when they don't understand something. Tbh, living like that is probably stressful as hell. Do a lot of Indian men suffer from crippling self-esteem issues or what? Why do they do this?!
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I am handing in my resignation & 2 weeks notice today nonnies! So long to my boss who tells me every decision i make is wrong, even when I'm following her past instructions! So long to my co-worker who suggests solutions to me and then sits there silently while I get reprimanded by my boss for doing what she suggested! So long my boss's stupid fucking dog who barks all day and I have to chase through the forest whenever she escapes the building! So long to not having an official lunch break and having to take calls while trying to eat soup! So long to be on call 24/7 to deal with everyone's bullshit! So long! So long! Adiós! Sayonara! Auf Wiedersehen! Where I'm going is the chance of a lifetime, it could be horrific or amazing and I can't wait to find out, away from you people!
No. 1424609
>>1417097>It's white people and a few kids of immigrants who think liberal arts degrees are worth the time and money.It has less to do with "white" and more to do with being a native citizen of a country. In European countries you will find it hard to emigrate with an art degree and no significant business network/experience either, even if you're white, because you're not giving them anything that's high in demand.
>>1417038I've studied with Indian CompSci exchange students and they have become more common in medicine too, even though we're a pretty shitty Eastern European country. This is mean, but they might have "useful" degrees on paper, their quality of work is shit compared to the standards, but if they'll cheaper than local uni grads, it's all that matters. They just don't care about the quality of work they put out, they'll shit out some code/give you a painful dental treatment and fuck off somewhere, which is so weird to experience.
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>>1415547Do you anons think I'm paranoid or we might actually be layed off soon?
Our onshore manager have not been attending our meetings for about a month now and only sends a message saying he has nothing to discuss. We had another onshore colleague assuring us that our contribution is very important and we will receive further projects starting from the end of January, probably. I genuinely cannot tell if they are just swamped with work and it's just more convenient to allocate tasks to the Indian team because they have more people available or they are just shitting on us and waiting for the year to be over so they can fire us
No. 1425499
>>1425448It's time to look for something else, right now, and start saving. If you're not laid off you will 100% be made to feel like you need to do 3 people's worth of work to keep your job and get gaslit into unpaid overtime.
>>1425290People don't get far in their careers by putting themselves down, like
>>1425305 said use your age to your advantage if you can but don't obsess over it. Everywhere you go there will be younger people with more experience and older people with less experience, it's normal in any workplace, literally nobody gives a shit. You're going to be fine.
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My close female colleague is leaving the company in a few weeks and I am so sad. She is very lovely and always helped me out when dealing with management. I am so not looking forward to being the only female on the team
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internship hunting is so annoying nonas omfg
i've applied to over 100 internships in the past 3 months and the furthest i've gotten is about 4 interviews, but i just keep getting ghosted even after interviews i feel good about. it doesn't matter if i use my college's connections or just search on indeed. every company just ghosts me
i've had my college look over my resume and cover letter over and over again and each time they're like, "yeah this is great". i've done numerous practice interviews and while i stumble a little, i never feel like i'm too autistic
i guess i'm being too picky since i only want a paid, remote internship but i thought it'd be easier than this
do any of you happen to have any tips or advice? should i give up the dream of working from home for now just to get my foot in the door?
the field is digital marketing btw, i have portfolios of example graphic design work, sample social media calendars, and copywriting from classwork that i share with potential employers when asked
No. 1433172
>>1433169I wonder if it would be useful to bring examples relevant to where you are applying for? (unless you are doing this already) such as; 'I looked at your social media and noticed you were missing this, I would improve it by doing this'. I only mention this as I have worked with someone recently who secured an internship by essentially stalking their social media and suggesting a improvement plan.
Ghosting seems like a common thing now-a-days and it's really unfortunate, is there anything stopping you from reaching out to get feedback from those who ghosted you? they might not respond but if they do at least you get some pointers.
No. 1433176
>>1425305i never went to uni/college so I don't have a good grasp on what age you "should" be when starting a career, not because I think 26 is old
>>1425358So far in the same boat. Have a wonderful job but my depression is horrible during winter and the pressure to not fuck up is taking it's toll
>>1425499Very true! There will always be someone better or worse. So long as I'm not dead last I'm content
No. 1433320
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I'm starting training to become an accountant and have my own business in January and it's driving me crazy. The business is a relatives and I currently just do normal bookkeeping/data inputting for him (aka typing fuel/income/stationary etc into Excel), but he's looking to retire soon and said that I can take over for him and he'll train me properly in everything so I can essentially just have the business as soon as he retires and he takes a small cut. The business was originally meant for his son but he basically said his son is a retard and that I would be much better suited to the role as it's my sort of thing (not a social job, computer-based and self-employed)
This is a huge and wonderful opportunity for me given that no one in my poorfag family minus my brother have "good careers". I don't wanna shame them obviously but the women in my family are all single mothers and the men are just builders or construction workers etc…because of that, I feel like I'm just not intelligent enough or I'm gonna fuck this business up and end up in trouble kek.
I can't even explain the logic of that, given that I won't be just shoved into the role and will be fully trained, but at the same time I think I'm just so used to having dead-end menial clock-in/clock-out jobs that this opportunity just feels like it's almost not meant for me, even though I really want it. I just have a lot of anxiety and feel like I just won't be intelligent enough for it or that I'll fuck everything up, but I know I can't not take the job because I'd be an absolute retard to drop an opportunity like this. I really want to force myself to be confident about it but I get really sickly and nervous thinking about it, it's such a huge responsibility that I've never even had before - my jobs have usually been retail and then a bit of self-employed freelance art, nothing as high-paying or as demanding as this. It feels like I have to face this massive obstacle in my self-confidence but I just dunno how to approach it.
No. 1433341
>>1433320don't worry
nonnie! you don't know how to do the job yet and that's normal. with training and time you'll do just fine. we all believe in you.
No. 1433385
>>1433320I bet you’ll be great,
nonnie. I know a guy whose dad was born to the untouchable caste in a village in India. He decided he’d had enough of being poor, managed to get ahold of a scholarship, and eventually got a PhD and moved to America where he now lives happily. It only takes one determined person with an opportunity to change the whole trend of a family line.
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I think my favorite coworker is quitting, and while I'm glad for her cause she'd be leaving retail, I'm sad for myself because she made my mornings more bearable. Whenever I do the shift with my boss (which will happen if she really leaves), I feel the atmosphere much tenser.
I also wanna leave myself, but my job hunting has been fruitless.
No. 1435289
>>1428637Losing a truly close colleague-friend in modern work environments is as bad or worse than most relationship/friendship losses. I feel for you,
nonny.
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I’m a white autistic immigrant in America. I’ve been applying to jobs left and right and cannot figure out why I’m being rejected. Should I tell people I’m autistic on my applications?
No. 1437517
>>1437464I don't know what jobs you are applying for, so I can't offer tailored advice, but if you are applying online, copy all the key words from the job listing (like: team worker, fast paced, customer service experience), and then paste them at the bottom of your resume. Highlight them, and make all the key words the same color as the color of your resume (hopefully white because that's professional). This way, the system reads them and automatically flags your resume as good and sends it to HR, and this gets it in front of someone which gives you a better chance.
>>1437473You can do this, I believe in you. Here is your lie, "I used to help take care of my grandma with dementia. Myself and other family members would take turns looking after her so she was never alone. So each day it was my turn, I would be in charge of making sure she takes her pills on time, cooking her meals, soothing her when she became upset, and keeping her entertained. As she declined, it became more challenging because she would not recognize me, and the fear and confusion would make her combative, but even if she didn't know why I was doing what I was doing, I knew why I did it. So that really helped me get through those difficult times."
Repeat that lie until you have it memorized by heart. One, this shows that you can manage multiple tasks. Two, that you are dependable and show up. Three, that you handle stress and pressure well. And four, that you can keep going even when people are screaming at you. The interviewer may ask a few follow up questions, but if you flinch or hesitate, it can be explained away by the fact that you loved your grandma and now she's dead and that's very hard for you. As well as, care taking, filial duty, and taking care of a dying relative are all common themes that many people have gone through and respect.
Once you get the job, don't worry about getting caught in a lie. If you ever mention that you have two grandmothers and they're like "but I thought one died?" just mention that one of the living ones is step grandmother, or that it was a family friend who was so close that she was like a second mother to your mother/father and so you always called her grandma. People really only think about their own internal monologue, so they'll quickly move on.
No. 1445148
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Work drama happened to me today.
(I’m a younger millenial)
I work at a small office for a med spa clinic as an assistant. My boss asked me if I could work at the clinic during the winter since the manager and other staff left in a group. I said yes as I helped out last year and things went well.
>boss hires a new aesthetician
>she literally does not want to work
>would shorten treatment times (40 mins to 20)
>change treatments because it was “too tiring”
>refuse walk ins when she had no clients because she’s “tired”
>”forgot”to do 2nd treatment on a client despite being told what the client was going to get before treatment, so no extra sale for the clinic
There’s a bully who has worked in the clinic for 10 years and she thrives on conflict. One of my gen z coworkers who was hired about half a year ago absolutely adores the bully, gen z is really nice and helpful and apparently I made an off handed comment about the bully working on a day she had no clients. I don’t remember saying that but even if I did not have any malicious undertone as sometimes I say something without thinking. So I was likely an ass hole if I did say this.
I reported the green text to my boss and boss decides to fire new hire. The bully calls my cell phone after work and aggressively asks me
>why I told on the new hire
>why did I talk shit about her (gen z told her I made the schedule comment abt her)
>I need to mind my own fking business
>i’m a rat
>suggested that I’m a liar and a fake
>tells me to stay in my own lane or she will make my life hell aka threats
>she can tell my boss bad stuff about me and she will believe her because she is a long time employee
>why didn’t you talk to the coworker about her problems
>mind my own business x20
>no one is gonna like me
>everyone hates teachers pets
>it’s not my job to be a snitch
>I said I’m an assistant, she said not when I’m at the clinic and I need to shut up and do my job and be a receptionist
>i am just a receptionist at the clinic
>not my job to do _____ x20
>starts saying I’m doing a bad job (giving wrong info when a couple days ago she said I was doing great with the info I gave to clients)
>her click (gen z and new hire) don’t trust me and don’t want to talk to me
>I said I understand she is upset because she likes the new hire, she strongly denies it
>I only care about the clinic, she says it’s not my job again
I was not able to defend myself properly because she kept repeating the same shit over and over and again, I was speechless + I was really confused and dumbfounded at the situation, I did tell her that I don’t remember making the schedule comment and she said she’s going to believe gen z cuz she has a good heart and she tops it off by saying I’m childish and so on. I accidentally sent a voice message to the clinic group chat saying hey (other coworker who reported new hire) the bully called me and she’s angry and says she will ruin me with gen z (I said something like tht don’t rmb) exdeeee, I quickly deleted it but apparently some people heard it. Gen z prob did but I don’t care if she knows I don’t trust her anymore
The thing is a lot of other coworkers reported this new hire for her poor performance too, but she thinks it’s just me. I guess it was obvious because I’m an assistant.
I didn’t understand where all the anger was coming from and why she was taking it so personally, then my other coworker told me she apparently recently lost her nursing license and stopped working at the hospital as a result so maybe she thought I was threatening her livelyhood?
I can admit I’ve done wrong and apologize if I ever said anything about her schedule and said something without thinking, however I won’t because she literally harassed me and threatened me over the phone. I work for a small company so there’s no HR. Boss is aware that the bully is mad, she said I did not do anything wrong at all she will talk to the bully.
I’m going to tell my boss I will go back to the office as a result and I will not be around someone who is threatening me.
I’ve been spending the night trying to make sense of everything, it’s almost 3 am and I got a full shift with gen z soon. (Just the 2 of us)
I will not say anything to Gen z and I will do my job and if she wants to be the bully’s echo chamber I will fully defend myself.
If the bully is some how reading this, you are a bully and I hope you understand why I reported the new hire. I do not remember saying anything but I understand if I said something off hand and something that was rude and I should not have said that if I did say it. Some times I am aloof and say things without thinking, I won’t apologize due to the threats and bullying.
No. 1445190
>>1445131I got more than enough experience with this one lol
Depends on the conpany and role, but usually you'll get less and less work assigned until they tell you directly ooor they try to make you quit by overworking you like a farm animal so you leave on your own
No. 1445614
>>1444341Thanks nonna. After graduating I remember every interview asking if I knew coding. I don’t so I was wondering if i needed to learn any to get a remote job
>>1444377Thanks nona I’ll look into it!
No. 1445963
>>1445956samefag but: sleeping in your cab when they time lock you, having to take showers in mostly male and disgusting travel center bathrooms where i would never ever ever set foot, being ALONE IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE AS A WOMAN?
nonnie day to day CDL is a great gig, but short and long term cdl is not for women. and even the daily female CDL truckers have to deal with so much shit from these men, i have bitched out a ton of them over the phone
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I just made a pretty serious mistake at my job and I can't stop feeling shit about it. The worst part is, I don't know if the work I've already sent also has more of those same serious mistakes. It feels like I'm never gonna get anywhere in life when I keep doing dumb retarded shit like this.
I've already apologised to my employer and said I just don't understand how it happened and that it was a genuine mistake, but now I'm fearing doing it again in the future even though I'm trying to be more aware of it now. I think my problem was working too fast, but I can't fix human error and it fucking sucks. I was enjoying a few days off and now it's just ruined me and made me feel like shit.
No. 1446269
>>1445148An update for anyone who cares.
I could not sleep at all last night because I was too amped up from the drama then I was sad that someone treated me like that and felt completely justified and right to do so. I think I slept about an hour.
Despite what I said earlier, I decided I did not want to work alone with Gen z today despite having a lot of work to do together such as fixing and re-doing invoices, making sure clients who received treatment and didn’t pay make their e-payment, cashing out today’s customers, etc (Idk how to use the new system so she was suppose to teach me everything) but I don’t want to interact with her at all with everything that has happened, she basically fuelled the fire for the harassment call from the bully in my eyes.
I texted my boss in the morning and asked to take today off and I told her I need to mentally rest after being aggressively verbally attacked and threatened. She’s on a flight coming back from her vacation so she couldn’t do a call so I reiterated what happened in a nutshell and then I mentioned the threats again and how the bully treated me and how I do not want to be in a work environment where someone can threaten me like that. She approved of me taking today off but said she is disappointed with my “reaction” of not wanting to work today so I told her all that stuff again and this time I mentioned I don’t want to work alone with someone with said I gossiped about the bully. My boss also said she really needs me at the clinic and doesn’t seem to want me to go back to the office (business is not particularly good during this time and she doesn’t seem to want to hire new staff atm to replace the ones that left).
My boyfriend told me that there is a possibility I can lose my job if I say I don’t want to work with her, I don’t want to see her or I don’t want to interact with her.
>>1445180>>1445184I’m not reporting her to the police because she didn’t threaten to physically harm me, she just said she would make things hell for me at work + tell the boss baloney about me and she said the boss will believe her because of her seniority at the company.
I don’t want to go back to the clinic and pretend like I’m all cool with the bully and Gen z, my boss said she needs people who can work and I’m an adult. At the end of the day she is running a business. I will look for a new job and I’m hoping to be out of there by early next year.
No. 1446532
>>1446382Yess, so happy for you,
nonnie!!
No. 1447009
>>1446573Honestly, it depends a lot on the company. For example, I had one interview with only one man who held two technical interviews for my subject (programming). It was a lot of hard programming question, and technical stuff.
I also had another interview that was composed of four seniors in the company, and surprisingly this one was wayyyy less nervewracking that the first because all the seniors were really comfortable with each other, joking and making the atmosphere a lot less tense. The technical questions were also considerably easier, and not nearly as many.
What subject/job type are you trying to get into? You don't have to give us all the details but basically it will depend a lot from place to place. Overall, I do think that you get more confidant with interviews as time goes on, but some companies just suck ass in general, and their interviews are tense.
If you're physically going to your job interview, try and see other workers who are around. See how miserable/not miserable they look. That should give you an idea about the culture of the place.
No. 1447080
>>1446573nerve-wracking but tbh failing interviews can be a good thing as it gives you more practice, so try to see this whole experience in a positive way. try to be yourself and remember you're trying to convince someone whose job relies on hiring someone fit for the job. they're not grading you as a person, they're just trying to get a good candidate based on a 30-min interview they're being paid to conduct.
prepare all the most common questions. e.g. "tell me about yourself" and prepare some questions more specific to your line of work. speak to yourself a couple times every day leading up to the interview and you'll do as well as you could, then it's all up to luck and the company's preferences. good luck nona!!
No. 1447644
>>1446000>>1445963Yeah I'm butch dyke but that doesn't mean only tough bitches can survive trucking.
>cdl is not for womenYou sound like the scrotes that tried to keep me out of this industry. Anyone can do this job if they're not a pussy, buck up.
No. 1451782
>>1450692When I did long haul I was never attacked but I also didn't stop in sketchy areas or put myself in a position where that could potentially happen. And I kept my doors locked and kept mace on me. Just be smart.
Other truckers mind their business most of the time. Obviously there are gonna be misogynists that make snarky comments at you because you're female, but that shit happens in retail and every other job you can get so I wasn't shocked.
Not all truckers are the typical longhaul drivers you see in movies either. The best work is local. You drive to the same spots everyday to make deliveries and come back home at the end of your shift. The only downside is dealing with traffic, but being home every night was a huge plus.
City bus driving is also easy cdl work if trucking still sounds too scary.
And I peed at truck stops.
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Are there any careers that are both creatively fulfilling and sustainable long term? I’ve been hit by the graduate wall of hating my job and my field but being terrified that anything else I try would have exactly the same problems. My passion has always been writing and I wanted to study English but I let my parents convince me to go into construction management/admin and now they scratch their heads and wonder why I’m such a flat unhappy version of myself and why I don’t write like a I used to even though they spent years telling me it was a waste of time. I’m not trying to be a bestseller, just anything where I could exercise a little bit of creativity and not listen to scrote talk from my coworkers and our contractors 24/7.
No. 1453527
>>1452354Not any of the anons you've been replying to, but just someone who works in the office for a long distance trucking company and I have to say
nonnie this should be the least of your worries kek. And yes the drivers are able to grocery shop on the job for themselves.
No. 1453534
>>1452344Like the other anon
>>1452375 said. A lot of jobs are doing on site training because they are desperate for people. I just left a job doing dispatch (something I had zero experience in) and learned a lot. Now I am taking that knowledge with me elsewhere.
No. 1453576
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I work at a company that builds private jets. Something happened a few days back that makes me feel like shit.
>went on a business trip with company lawyer. got grilled by corporate for 72 hours
>exhausted and have cried like 3 times
>lawyer finds out one of our jets is in the area and can pick us up
>i'm SO fucking excited
>literally no one in the company gets to ride on the jets even though we build them
>ride jet, get back home at 6pm, closure of business
>go into the office and run to my other lawyer buddy and I'm so loud and excited
>jumping, going "yess!" and he's happy for me
>one of our high-up japanese corporate guys is sitting near him, he's usually pretty chill but he kinda looks at me sorta annoyed
>whatever, it's 6pm
>two days later boss calls me into a meeting after the managers meeting
>apparently someone in the office approached my boss and said "my behavior wasn't appropriate" that day
>person didn't give any context that I had flown the jet
>boss wasn't mad or anything but he just wanted to tell me about it
not even sure if this was this japanese guy, but I feel so embarrassed honestly. work has been so hard lately and this was the best thing that's happened to me in a while, so I feel awful. just need some nonnas to tell me that it's ok and that I'm not a bad person.
No. 1453578
>>1453576it's ok you're not a bad person. how do you get a job at a company that builds private jets?
but seriously you're fine. your boss relayed it as a matter of fact not like you'd done anything wrong. happened to me before too. channel your inner stacy. it's fine to be excited sometimes.
No. 1456312
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hi nonnas! I'm starting my first semester of community college soon studying HIT. I have a lot of different passions and careers I want to do in the future but I chose HIT to appease my parents and hopefully make a decent income so I can support my family. Do you think I made the right choice? I mostly chose HIT because of the little schooling, I don't want to waste time on something I'm not passionate about, but I wonder if it's too saturated - medical coding is really popular - or if theirs another job with little/no schooling that pays really well.
No. 1457000
>>1456451In the same boat, hopefully we can find something worth it!
I'm planning to trying to get some passive income creating stupid meme shit to sell on sticker & shirt sites and I think I want to become a dog walker/sitter or do some data entry or something. I make the equivalent of $22.50 an hour right now but it's only because I work 50 hours a week. I want to work under 40 hours a week, it's taking up so much of my time. I want to eventually find a job that pays me at least $25 an hour and I just work 35 hour weeks and pray to god things made for passive income can rank in at least $100 a week.
I told my nigel the other night how I can't wait to stop having to work so much so I can just be at home majority of the time raising our future child. He's in total support, he wishes I could be home more often already. We're saving for the future, but I worry about the stable job. I want to be home for our child I want to have in at least 3 years. It's better for me to start to figure something out sooner than later.
No. 1457652
I guess this is more of a confession, but I am just a lazy piece of shit employee. I wasn't always like this. I worked retail right out of college for two years, and I think that it really shaped my work ethic in a positive way (at the cost of burning out). I think of my past self as a genuine hard worker, and I liked to earn the praise of my superiors, I liked to feel like I had done a good job at the end of the day after running around like a chicken with my head cut off. Of course I left, because retail is just so fucking soul sucking.
For better or for worse, my next job and the beginning of my career in administration was so good to me. It was minimum wage, but only a $2 pay cut so not really a loss, but it was easy peasy and slow as fuck. Office was small, everyone was very friendly, and all I did was fuck off on the internet for 7 hours straight while occasionally answering the phone (mostly spam calls anyway) and greeting some people. It was only a temp position though and they never hired permanently (company couldn't afford to give benefits so they would rather just switch someone out). My next admin job had fast paced moments and slow moments, so it was a good mix and I still had some good down time, but of course I had work and I think I still did a good job there.
No. 1457655
>>1457654I hate myself because I've let myself become so lazy. At first it was because I no longer wanted to be taken advantage of. I was no longer the naive fresh out of college employee, eager to please and bend over backwards for pennies. I would work but purposely be slow and would try to hide the fact from managers and supervisors that I can work decently fast and well. But I've let myself become lazy. I've taken advantage of it. I know that I am extremely lucky and fortunate to have landed my current position, where I do fuck all. I'm spoiled as fuck. I get to work from home whenever I want (but I mostly come in anyway), my commute it only 20 minutes by subway and I don't have to transfer trains and my building is only across the street from the station. Hell, I kept taking random days off because of my sick cat and then ended up taking a week off when he passed and my manager approved it and didn't fight me on it. I'd stay here, but my salary is absolute garbage, and even if I got a raise, the pay cap for my position is 10k
less than the minimum the job I just interviewed for is offering.
No. 1457656
>>1457655I tell myself "ugh I'm hesitant about taking this job if I got it because the commute is longer (about an hour) and I'd have to do more work" but bitch that's the fucking price of working a job that fucking pays! I could become exactly what I hate and just ebeg on twitter for donations if I really wanted to keep being a lazy piece of shit. I hate what I've let myself become, and I won't self sabotage the opportunity for a better paying job just because I don't want to do more work. I also don't even hate admin work! I actually really like it! I love mindless busywork! What the fuck is wrong with me!!!
Sorry for the multiple posts, I can't believe I can no longer post stupid long ass rants on lolcow anymore. What the fuck.
No. 1459572
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I graduated at the height of the pandemic so I went straight into retail after college. I worked retail until 2022 and then traveled for most of the year. Now I’m going back home and applying for Admin and Data entry roles because I really don’t want to go back to retail. Just got offered my first interview for an Admin role that’s a 60% pay increase, too. I really want to do well! Does anyone working an Admin role know what kind of questions I might be asked?
I don’t have previous experience in an Admin role but believe many of my other customer service skill will translate alright. If I get asked a specific skill I’m unsure of doing though, how do I respond? Be honest and say I don’t know, but I’m more than willing to put in the effort and learn/receive training?
Also one more side question… when I was interviewing for a retail position before they asked me for a time I dealt with conflict in the workplace. Felt like the interviewers didn’t really like my answer to this question and I’m just wondering I get asked something like this ever again, is there a “right” way to respond? What do interviewers like to hear? Thank you so much! I really appreciate any help
No. 1459581
>>1459572good luck nona! I have worked both retail and data entry/admin roles in my teens and twenties. data entry is so much more chill, i even
loved one job I had because it was so relaxing but it was only temp. admin is a bit more involved but includes more variety, if that's your thing. and it's stationary heaven.
anyway, questions you might get asked
>how do you stay organised>strengths and weaknesses>how do you handle stress>what is your experience and how are your IT skills>why do you want the job/why do you think you're well suited to itbasically you have to be confident and make yourself sound professional, well-organise, self-motivated, team-player etc. but have some prepared sentences to talk about your flaws and challenges (could be something like "I have struggled with time keeping in the past but now mitigate that by setting timers and organising how long each task will take me")
>If I get asked a specific skill I’m unsure of doing though, how do I respond?your response for that was good i thought! you could also throw in something like "I haven't ___ before but feel confident I will pick it up as I'm a fast learner"
No. 1459583
>>1459581samefagging because of the annoying new word limit.
the conflict thing is less likely to come up in admin, I would think, but I would stress the importance of always staying professional, polite, calm and involving HR where necessary.
I'm sure you'll do great. And remember, they're trained to grill you a bit in corporate-style interviews, compared to the retail ones. they put you on the spot so if you feel uncomfortable, just keep reminding yourself that it's normal and don't freak out.
No. 1459734
>>1459572You can do it! Talk about the importance of organization, detail, and data accuracy.
If you don't know how to do something you can be honest, but give an example of when you were a fast learner. You can brag or exaggerate, they won't know how important something actually was.
For the conflict in the workplace, the right answer is always remain professional and it depends on the type of conflict. If the conflict is over personal matters, you want to inform HR ASAP and remove yourself from the situation. If the conflict is about work matters, you want be respectful of others opinions and if you are facing obstacles in what you need to get done as part of your work responsibilities, escalate the situation to your manager.
You got this nona. Keep us posted!
No. 1460495
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Nonnas, is there anything I should know ahead of time as a CCA in the USPS?
I applied to the job to stall out 2 years so
>The great tech recession
can reach its thrilling conclusion.
No. 1460980
>>1459734>>1459581I really cannot thank you two more for your help and encouragement! I just completed my virtual interview and actually got asked some of the topics/questions you pointed out, so I’m really happy I was able to prepare answers I was confident in beforehand. Nothing in the interview caught me off guard!
My interviewer really liked me and said he was going to change my status from an “applicant” to “offer” in the computer system, but I’m not officially hired yet because he does want to do an in person interview when I return to my hometown soon, which I think is understandable. Hopefully I interview well in person, too! I’ve applied for other positions also, and now feel more confident if I get offered any other interviews. I’m starting to really feel like I can get out of retail hell! Thank you so much again!
No. 1461012
>>1460495You don't need to know anything. You should get a week of paid classroom training and a vehicle training day (don't fuck that up) and a day where you just shadow someone on the job before anyone asks you to actually do anything yourself. Individual circumstance at each station could vary but that's generally how it goes.
It stopped during covid but there used to be an assessment/test (
https://about.usps.com/careers/how-to-apply/assessments.htm ). It could have started again I don't know. Just follow isntructions like all the other hiring stuff, it's not hard. it was like a memory test involving addresses and I think there was also an ethics portion but it was very common-sense "
you find $200 in a collection box what do you do? 1. keep it OR 2. notify your manager" lol. Drug testing was also halted/postponed during covid but I think it started again.
No. 1461282
>>1453473>Are there any careers that are both creatively fulfilling and sustainable long term?Copy writing
Technical writing
I'm interpreting sustainable as you can get an actual job doing it and don't have to hustle as a self-employed person. Your company probably has some kind of writing opportunities that you can volunteer to write for to get your writing fix.
Also, you can sign up on fiverr, upwork, etc and take whatever writing jobs that interest you and see how you feel about making those your career.
No. 1461287
>>1456422>I feel incredibly entitled but I cannot continue working from home anymore.It's not entitled. Working from home is not for everybody. Some people need the clear separation between work and home in order to perform their best.
Congrats on the new job!
No. 1461298
>>1456507I think pay is really going to depend on the specific spa. Look up the company on glassdoor and see what the reviews are.
Look up similar jobs on ziprecruiter and indeed.com to see what others are paying. Check salary.com to see what they say about salary.
No. 1461300
>>1456983Did you report the texts to your manager.
If not, you should.
No. 1461312
>>1456312>>1456616
>Do you think I made the right choice? I mostly chose HIT because of the little schooling, but I wonder if it's too saturated - medical coding is really popular - or if theirs another job with little/no schooling that pays really well.I don't know what country you are in, but in the US, HIT is a decent choice. According to Bureau of Labor Statics link below, the job is expected to grow for the next 10 years, so I wouldn't say its saturated. And if you get a job in one IT dept, you can also transfer to a different IT area. However, you should talk to the career counselors at your college and find out how many of their HIT graduates got jobs. Your school might suck at placing people.
Health Information Technologists and Medical Registrars Job Outlook
https://www.bls.gov/ooh/healthcare/health-information-technologists-and-medical-registrars.htm#tab-6You can use this site to find data for your specific state:
https://www.onetonline.org/link/summary/29-9021.00Regarding other jobs, with similar schooling and pay, you can check out this page. This is for the US, so not sure how applicable this is for other countries:
Occupation Finder
https://www.bls.gov/ooh/occupation-finder.htm?pay=&education=&training=&newjobs=&growth=&submit=GO No. 1461866
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I'm so angry. Up until now we could work from home 3x a week and they recently changed the policy and reduced this to 2 days. The thing is, there are not enough computers in the office and some people were not given work laptops at all. It happened the other day that there was an event and everyone was told to come to the office, but some people then had to go home so they could work because only desks with docking stations were available. Ridiculous
No. 1469068
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Nonna's I'm super hopeful about the interview I went through today! I know I've said that like thrice or so itt, but this time I actually was one of the 3 "finalists", so to speak. One of the interviewers seemed to be kinda impressed with my achievements, they liked that I already knew the place and they even recognized that my resume picture was taken there (it's an art gallery/museum/house in general). The same guy also knew my biggest reference personally, and complimented her. He also said he'd might leave in the middle of the interview cause he had some other affairs to attend, but he never did - which I think it's a good sign, he either was interested or the interview was to the point and he didn't need to milk it any longer. He even called another superior to join us.
Tbh I didn't feel the same enthusiasm from the other 2, but I'm qualified to the position, I do speak all of the desired languages of the institution, I wasn't nervous (even cracked some jokes), I've proven to be communicative and a team worker and that I understand the work culture there since I've been in similar ones. Maybe the first guy will convince the other 2 (3 technically, since there was the other woman who joined us later).
My biggest worry is that they asked me to write a surprise themed report. I'm not bad at writing, but since I didn't prepare and it was technically timed since I had to hurry to get to my current job, I'm afraid it was kinda shitty and redundant lol at least everything was grammatically correct.
I am feeling it, nonas. I'm so ready to start 2023 with a brand new job, at a place I genuinely love and with a 50% salary increase from my current retail job.
No. 1471502
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Nonas how can I make my cubicle at work less horrible? I'm hybrid now and I really miss my home office's big windows and natural light. My cubicle is in this small room in the center of the floor with no windows. I feel like I'm in an oversized broom closet. I do sit outside during my lunch break and it does make me feel better.
No. 1472149
>>1472130The recruiter is actually an in-house recruiter for the company. I might use the other offer lie, but I think they are going to let me know if I got an offer or not early next week so I think I will pretend that I'm waiting to hear back from another company in 1-2x max before countering with a newer, higher salary. I interviewed with a couple of managers from the company (did two rounds already) and I think my interview went really well with them, although they suspiciously didn't ask me too much about my skills/experience. They are a legitimate firm and the position is just for a basic admin position though, so it's not like there's anything I wouldn't be able to handle/learn. They didn't bring up salary at any point though. I'm flip flopping anyway because of the longer commute/more work but even their base salary would be good… having even more pay would definitely make things more worth it though.
Thank you nonna!
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nonnies should i call or email today to follow up on an application i put in last week on monday? or should i wait until next monday? v nervouse but really want this job
No. 1475135
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I'm usually not like this but I'm legit fighting off tears rn because I didn't get the job I wanted. I was so confident too, everything went so well. They offered me an alternative, but it's not for the company I wanted… I mean, kinda. It would be an outsourced company, but I'd be working at the place that I wanted in the first place. But the job itself… I don't know. They gave me time to think/answer, but rn I have my reasoning a bit clouded because I'm feeling very disheartened. The salary would be basically the same as my current job but it wouldn't be retail… And at a place I genuinely enjoy. Idk. I fear hating the place itself if I end up hating the job.
No. 1476656
I hate my current supervisor. I've been on his team for about 7 months now. I changed teams to get a morning schedule. My old team and supervisor were awesome, but I'm not a night person.
New supervisor was someone that never did the job before and came from a different department. It has been hell under them, and I have cried and felt like shit everyday. I'm a top agent on the floor (with and without him), and felt like he always undermined me, mansplained everything, while also being incompetent at his job.
We got a new manager, and after formally meeting them I wrote them a long (like 1,000 word long) email explaining how miserable I was and that I wanted a supervisor change. I feel so stupid after sending it because I'm afraid it will come off as overly dramatic and ruin my reputation, but I'm desperate. I haven't gotten a response yet, so I'm anxious. I need this job while I finish my degree so I can move on (currently work in a call center but make good money), but feel I'm ready to quit if my worklife gets worse.
Ugh, just wanted to rant.
No. 1476668
>>1474864>why you shouldn't do XYZomg I see this all the time now, I watch a lot of channels that teach coding and recently this became a trend. tbh I think they're just trying to gatekeep and stop people from replacing them, it's so weird! I never click on those videos either, I have once and it was mostly clickbait and had no value.
Wishing you good luck and success with your career transitioning! Unfortunately I can't give you any advice other than to ignore these sensationally titled articles and videos.
No. 1476681
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What do you guys do at work when there is nothing to do?
There is a lull at work since December and when I'm working from home I can find myself things to do (I do the laundry, tidy, cook, etc) but when I'm in the office, I feel like I could die from boredom, I just stare at the screen and click around. We have a hybrid setup and we are obliged to attend the office 2x a week. They are super strict about cybersecurity and almost every webpage that is not related to work is banned so I cannot watch Youtube videos or things like that. Thinking about bringing a book with myself
No. 1476708
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>>1475135I slept on it and I think I'll accept the offer. It can't be worse then retail - and even if it is, at least it's not completely dead end, I'd have a chance of career growth. It really bums me though that I won't be actually working for the company that I want though, especially since the pay is waaay less. They said that there was a possibility that I could get hired for my desired company itself, but I don't know how long that would take. Also, of it's just bait to get me in. But still, it's more aligned to my interests than working at a food store. I just hate that my shifts will keep changing biweekly.
Risking sounding like a bitter schizo, I think they didn't hire me because I'm not pretty enough. I am not a complete monster, but I'm not cute and hyper feminine either, I'm kinda tomboyish and I am taller and broader (for my country). But then they thought they liked my profile in general so they are giving me this "consolation prize", I guess. This is the feeling I got. Like, I get why they'd want a pretty/cute girl for this position (and why it's basically female only, although only implied), but it still hurts.
No. 1476827
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I got a job and I really like it, I make minimum wage ($29 here) plus extra because I work at night, I don't have to interact with customers and my team is really nice, we all started together and are different ages, there are only two other women I work with but I'm not as close to them, but there are some guys my age who are really chill. I have good hours too and my bosses are so nice, and I'm part of a union. The place I work in also gives us free food/snacks and makes huge meals/lunches on special occasions. I'm finally happy with a job I think.
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>>1476770Thanks, nonna. I just accepted the job, now I'm thinking about the message I'm gonna send my boss about quitting.
I am a bit worried about this new job not only because it's something I've never done and all, but also because the recruiter itself said it's hard. They usually sugarcoat it a bit more, so…
But anyway, it's a good step indeed. Hopefully I can grow there. If it wasn't for the bitter taste in my mouth about the other, better job and the outsourcing aspect of it, I'd be super happy and excited, but it sucks to smell a delicious meal and then proceed to eat an okayish sandwich, you know? Hopefully it won't be too bad and I'll network nicely. If everything goes as planned, I'll start on February.
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>>1477134Do not feel dumb nonna!!! I am a former retail worker who switched to administration a few years ago. Not really sure how to sell yourself for data entry if your retail job didn't have any instances of you doing that, but I really played up organization, prioritization, multitasking, working in fast paced environments, being a team player, experience in handling many different personalities, etc since most administration roles tend to include reception roles nowadays. Being a receptionist isn't really the most ideal but if you really want to get out, it is going to be the easiest way out. After getting receptionist experience you will usually have an easier time finding more admin roles that are less client facing. Really sell your customer service skills.
It will really suck in the beginning. I actually got called in for quite a few interviews but it always came down to the fact that I did not have experience working in an office. Even as an office worker now, I will say office workers are fucking pussies. Once you deal with retail, nothing compares. Just continue to really sell yourself as someone who is adaptable to new environments and shit like that. It might help to talk with recruiters too (some companies only use recruiters so you might not even find their job listing), that's how I got my first receptionist job. Even taking on temp roles might be worth looking into because they may be more lenient on the fact that you don't have prior office experience. I wish you the very best of luck nonna. Sometimes it really does just come down to dumb luck and someone really liking how you present yourself. Every interview you don't get a job offer from is just another practice session. I've been through so many interviews that I rarely get the jitters anymore. I think my confidence might just be "I'm so sick of this bullshit" so I don't have the patience to be nervous kek. All the best to you nona, you can do this! I believe in you, really! ♥
No. 1477816
>>1469565Hopefully not responding too late, but here goes. I got hired at a company that was kind of like that, but really, the family/collaboration/teamwork thing was mostly a facade. Direct conflict/communication was not allowed, but not even explicitly. Everything was weird games, with a ton of unspoken rules, and everyone was weird and passive aggressive. Even communication from my boss was really unclear more often than not.
I do know a person who had a similar interview though, and for her, the company ended up being really chill. Some employees at the company got away with being frustratingly lazy, but that just means that putting in 4 hours of actual work a day makes you look really good compared to your coworkers.
Anyways, if you're a little autistic / bad with social cues and socialization / very frustrated by dishonesty, I would advise against them. Otherwise, it probably won't be that much worse than most other companies, and it has a chance of being pretty good. It's always hard to get a feel for what a company is going to be like from the interview alone, so don't agonize too much over the vibes.
>>1476835Even when AI is good enough that it can write relatively novel things that don't frequently have really fundamental flaws, the code it makes is going to have to be tested and fixed by humans for at least a little while. E.g., look at AI art. The best pieces are usually hand-selected by humans from 100's of possibilities. Of course, it'll get better and better to the point where almost all the pieces generated will be good enough, but I think it'll be a long time until 95% of pieces are lacking any significant flaws.
I can pretty easily see us getting to a point where software developers are mostly writing really robust sets of test cases and generating code with AI and selecting the most efficient solution, but I think it'll be a looong time before we're able to use AI to effectively debug code. Additionally, so much of software engineering is understanding requirements written by actual buffoons, so companies would at least need a very technical person to accurately describe what is needed to the AI, or else the AI's output will be complete garbage. To make another comparison to AI-generated art, people who enter prompts for AI art talk mad shit about how "hard" it is, and that's kind of retarded, but they're not completely wrong. Getting the AI to do what you want when you have something specific in mind is surprisingly difficult.
In short, it'll probably hurt the tech industry, but I think by the time software engineering is really hurting, many, many service industry and white-collar positions will have been gone for a while, and we'll either already be working on solutions to move toward a post-scarcity economy, or we'll be totally fucked, at least for a while. Of course, even in the "fucked" scenario, it'd be more individually beneficial to be a nurse or something, so do with that what you will. Relatively low skill jobs like entry-level webdev will be likely be some of the first on the chopping block. Make sure to learn some backend at very least.
>>1476949If your manager is able to get you a comparably high salary increase, you should stay for a while longer. I agree that it's not likely to happen, but in the case that it does, don't give up a good situation. A lot of people might say stuff like, "NOW the company knows you're disloyal and they'll be looking for a reason to replace and then fire you," but even if that's the case, another year or two at the company is pretty good. You'll definitely have to leave eventually to get any further salary increases, but enjoy what you've got while you can. Company loyalty is always a good look, too.
No. 1477932
>>1477816Thanks nona, I'm both
>>1469565 and
>>1476949.
My last job gave me the "we're like a family line" but it ended up being pretty okay. It was a very small company though, so I feel like that sort of family/bonded feel is a bit inevitable in small companies. This next job is at a very large company, and they told me they're hoping to continue expanding, so I'm back to being just a cog in a big corporate wheel. That doesn't really bother me though. I think I can be pleasant and get along really well with others, so I should hopefully be ok kek. I have trouble approaching people but if others approach me first I have an easier time reciprocating their energy.
My boss did end up asking the manager if they could match my salary! Unfortunately they won't. I knew this would be the answer, but I'm extremely flattered my boss even tried considering how I do fuck all at my job. I won't lie, I really do just browse LC and youtube all day. It's a very comfy position for me, but pay sucks. I'm looking forward to actually doing work at work, because as much as I love being a lazy piece of shit all day, I'd like to actually be able to do the things I have listed on my resume, and learn how to do new things so I can take those skills and eventually bounce for more money kek. If the vibes are rancid I'll probably bounce in another year or two, but honestly I'd wouldn't mind just settling down in a place for 10 years if the money is decent. Job hunting is so stressful. I haven't had a job in so long where I'm not dreading the eventual job hunt on my first day of work. I'm young but I'm tired of this kek.
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Rant incoming. I got a job that is probably as close to a dream job as I could get. It's also a job where everyone has really high expectations of me and wants me to be proactive and learn fast, which is not a problem, but I have been told repeatedly by my manager that I'm "too nice" for this job.
Apparently the biggest issue they had when they decided whether to hire me or not was because they thought I was too bubbly and positive, and they wanted someone who appeared more serious. I've worked hard on keeping a calm and neutral attitude since then. I've worked jobs with much bigger stakes than this one. What I'm doing in this job doesn't even come close to the things I've tackled in the past, but it feels like my manager doesn't believe me when I say this.
She asks for my opinion a lot, which is great, but when I share it or explain why I think this would be the better way to perform a task, I'm shut down. If I haven't had the time to think about an issue yet or I'm asked for an opinion out of the blue, I get scolded for being too passive. To her, most questions are indeed stupid, but she's also quick to tell me that I'm not asking enough questions. She wants me to be ambitious and set high goals for myself, but when I showed her my goals for the first three months at the company, she told me to dial it down.
I'm two months in. I'm still new, but it feels like my manager wants me to talk and act as if I've been at the company for years. I'm just so annoyed by it. I'm annoyed with her, but also myself for having given them such a view of me. A trait that has always been appreciated by my other employers is now my biggest weakness. It's frustrating, and distracts me from my tasks because I'm constantly trying to keep up with everything else that happens in my own and other departments to make sure I have something to say whenever I'm asked. Sigh.
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I’m the last anon but I came here in the first place to gush about my new job prospects, I’m excited to step into working from home finally after going through countless job settings in my life. I’m finally doing something where I see the value in the tasks I complete, instead of asking myself “why am I doing this? who does this benefit other than a spreadsheet of numbers 9 states away in HQ?” I realize exactly how useful the work I’m doing has the potential to be. If you’ve been told you’re too kind/nice, a bleeding heart, care or worry too much about others wellbeing, please please please look into local nonprofits to work for. You may have to volunteer a while to get your foot in the door for employment prospects, or reach out to the founder of an organization you see value in and appreciate, and even expressing that likemindedness in goals and aspirations may be a foot in the door. It will be more rewarding to work on community building vs corporation building than you’d realize, my work goes to my community not to some random numbers spreadsheet now and I wouldn’t have it any other way. My soul feels a sigh of relief run through it. Picrel, how I’m feeling coming from 2.5 years of manual labor to work from home setting.
No. 1481185
>>1480665I have I very metropolitan lifestyle which I like.
>>1480715I work in consulting so I feel like I have no qualifications kek…
No. 1481432
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I told my mom that employers were saying I have a lot of gaps in my resume and she made up a "job" for me in her company. Now I'm nervous because I have a lot of experience in administrative work but I'm straight up lying to make up a job I didn't have during COVID.
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>>1481432>lot of experience in administrative workThen focus on that. You don't need to go into detail on what your were doing aside from your "administrative duties". If asked to for an example on what you were doing, just say some of your experience from your admin works. They won't know that you didn't experience it all at your mum's workplace
No. 1481855
>>1481807Aw thanks nona, I think there are many different ways to live life. I never really aspired to be a career-oriented person because I think there is so much more to life than what job you work at. I'm happy that you have other priorities in life that make your life meaningful and I'm sure you do have drive in life and that maybe it just doesn't apply to a specific career. At least that's what I've seen with my friends who aren't super career-oriented. They all have things they are very passionate about that don't have anything to do with their jobs. And I hear what you're saying about being paralyzed by choice. I think it's very normal to move throughout life having different jobs and you can take the skills you learned from one job and take it to another even if they aren't completely related (I know of someone who went from nursing into tech and another who went from doing script writing for TV into counseling). Just because you pick something to make ends meet doesn't mean you have to stick with it forever! I think at the end of the day, a job can just be something that provides you with money and stability so that you can have the resources to do what you really love, whatever that may be.
>>1481828I know it's kind of a controversial field but I'm a
mental health counselor. More specifically, I don't work private practice so I don't make a lot of money and a lot of the people I work with have really acute issues like being recently homeless or having their kids taken away, etc. I was depressed for a while because of how stressed out I was and how I felt like I was shitty at my job and slaving away and not even helping anyone. I recently had a change of perspective though where I realized that I am really passionate about/interested in what I do and even though this job takes up a lot of my time/mental energy that maybe that's not necessarily a bad thing. I could go into more detail, but then I wouldn't be answering your question kek. I just hope I can continue to do my best and stay in this field because the longer I do this, the more I'll learn and the more qualified I'll feel to help people.
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Hi nonnies, it's
>>1476949 . A friend of mine told me to keep my current job while working my new job, which would possibly be doable since I do mostly fuck all at my current job, but I've already given my two weeks to HR and it feels weird to back out. But I came back into the office and my boss actually asked if I could stay on on a task based/freelance/contract basis. I'm barely assigned tasks as is so I think it's completely doable, but of course I'm not sure how the workload at my next job will be. I think it will be doable since my current assignments rarely take me very long to do.
How should I bring this up to HR? Also would it be better, considering tax purposes, to go freelance for my current company or ask to just go part time? I'd probably only log a very insignificant amount of hours but it wouldn't matter since my new salary is good and this would all just become supplemental income.
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Anyone here a tattoo artist? Any advice for breaking into the industry with no connections? I am already an artist who has made somewhat of a living on illustrations but I've never put ink on someones skin. I'm fully ready to devote myself to this, but I don't really know how to approach it. Pic not mine
No. 1483802
>>1483794Honestly, I am not a tattoo artist, but my best friend is and she went from being an apprentice, to having someone to teach, then to opening up her own shop.
She told me that how she approached someone was via Instagram, then the guy she taught, he approached her Instagram too. I guess like any artistic job, have a portfolio ready!
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I think that misogyny is not talked about enough in hiring processes.
I am very good at what I do. I was doing cover work in a particular office for some weeks, and I applied for a permnanent position because I liked the place. I noticed that 60% of the staff were male, which doesn't sound like a lot but females being over 75% of this particular industries workforce.
The senior manager told me I was no good at what I was doing and I don't know what to make of it because I've never been told that before, I have only ever had resoundingly positive feedback on my work even when I was training, even when I only just started.
I hate working class scrotes who 'climb the ranks' soooo much. Only women should be in charge.
No. 1486057
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So I was suddenly laid off earlier from my notice (tomorrow instead of two weeks from now) because my boss sold the store I work/ed at. I'm pretty ambivalent about it - I was the one to quit because I got a new job, but it's all so sudden. I'll barely be able to say my goodbyes to my coworkers, and I really liked them. I won't be able to say goodbye to one of them at all! But then, I'll get a small "vacation" of like 5 days, that will be nice. Aahh so bittersweet!
I wish the best to my coworkers. Although I had my reservations about our old boss, I really wasn't feeling the new moid boss.
No. 1487418
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I keep getting promotions and raises but I hate my fucking job and this entire industry. I just want out! I want to use my degree! But they don't seem to want me
No. 1487577
While trying to establish an online passive income I want to have some sort of stable ling term housing which is hard to find btw, and a stable income but it's hard to find well paid jobs that won't overwork you, which is why I want to stay home and make content for passive income. So the choices I have are continuing childcare and education in a private setting, which is a hit or miss if the mother is insane or not, and the kid well behaved. And I need to musk up some references. I am tired of this work although it's easy. Then there's massage therapy, which I can do but if I'm stuck doing deep tissue back to back I am gonna need a massage daily myself. I know there's good work out there but all I am seeing is having very little time between clients, expected to do all this other shit like waxing, and not great salaries. I made more doing it freelance, but freelance doesn't come with consistency. Then there's an option I could handle as a corporate flight attendant, essentially being the only hostess on a private plane. It has a lot of perks, cooking is not really expected just warming up and plating the catering, that you have to arrange. The schedule depends on clients but it does have on and off weeks, so I can stay at home half the month. Service industry is kind if tiring but for vip you do get benefits. I tutored vip before and they give you gifts and offer you jobs. I am a bit tired of flying and traveling but it is easier to go private and may be my best option. All these jobs have high paying potential and above average standard salaries because you work with high end clients. I have experience in all industries, and skills, and receive training. So Idk what would you choose
No. 1487609
>>1487418i'm jealous just crush it
nonnie, make a pile, then quit dramatically in like 8 months time and either invest it all into bitcoin or something or use to follow your dreams and use your degree $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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>>1487613I wouldn't say they're condescending, but I had a really hard time getting responses to job applications from UK companies.
No. 1487718
I'm one month into my new job and doing well in terms of performance and efficiency, but the company heavily values being visible as an employee, meaning that from day one I've been told to speak up, give feedback, share my thoughts and take part in discussions. I feel like a complete idiot butting into conversations with my ideas on topics I don't have full knowledge of yet. Sometimes I've suggested ideas that have already been discussed, so now I'm tasked with looking into old presentations and meeting material to make sure I don't waste time suggesting old stuff, taking away time from the tasks I've been assigned, all in the name of showing my passion for the company.
It's a good job, everyone's friendly and I look forward to learn more, but I hate being treated as if I know nothing while somehow also expected to know everything.
Today we had a discussion over email within our team on how to handle a case with a client. I suggested something that got turned down and ignored for the rest of the conversation, until our manager came in and found a solution very similar to the one I had written down. I made a note of this, but my manager instead focused on something I had suggested after being turned town as if my original idea never existed. It didn't feel malicious or anything, just a dumb result of the "new hire" curse I'm carrying. Still, it's dumb. I wish they would just let me do my tasks instead of all this extra stuff to show that I care.
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i work as a janitor and started working at a new school this week and today i was told i am supposed to vacuum these flights of stairs, and not with a wireless vacuum but with just a regular one. now i am thinking if i over reacted but i told my superior that i am not comfortable doing it because i just think it is dangerous as shit, like the stairs are right next to hallways and doors where lot of people are walking, there's toilets there and the wire would go across the way people are going and down the stairs in a way that i think is just an accident waiting to happen. now i am afraid the school staff will complain because i just mopped the stairs and didn't vacuum them but i just think it's a fucking retarded idea, not only for me but the kids who are like high school age and walking around seeing nothing but their phones all the time
No. 1488772
Anyone done work like this?
https://jobfindjobs.com/article-writing-jobs-in-new-york-nyc-usa-salary-3300-6300-per-month-2-A1Msn-Google-post-id-4257503/I am good at writing but I don't have a portfolio because I never did this work before so of course I would make it up. But could I reasonably do this remotely? I don't even live in the us anymore but I am a citizen.
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My company was recently acquired by private equity. We were promised no layoffs or other significant changes, but of course, there have been several small rounds of layoffs since the acquisition deal was finalized.
I'm not surprised that my company went back on their word, but I am surprised by how hush-hush the layoffs have been. About 5% of my own org was laid off, and this was mentioned very briefly at the beginning of a weekly org meeting that people frequently skip. The layoffs were not talked about in-writing whatsoever. One of my team-members was laid off, and if he didn't PM me in the 10 minutes before his access was cut off, I wouldn't have known that he, or anyone, had been let go until the org meeting the day after. Even in my team's chat, the layoffs were never put into writing.
My company is mostly remote, so I've had to slowly find out about layoffs through the few connections I have in other orgs and through fucking LinkedIn. From what I can tell, each org has had 1-2 rounds of 5% layoffs. These aren't crazy layoffs, but what the hell? It feels absolutely insane to me that a company can lay this many people off without acknowledging that they're doing so in even in a fucking email.
No. 1491568
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any nonnies have tips for working as a lab assistant for someone new to working in a lab environment?
i got a part time lab assistant job in a histopathology lab. everyone's nice enough, i just find the job itself so stressful because there are about a million things they expect you to remember to do, and there's an exact way you need to do everything. i'm not used to workinf with hazardous chemicals or biohazardous materials etc which are ofc a common thing in the lab.
everyone's always pretty busy with their own work too so i feel like its hard to ask for help. im ashamed to say i had a breakdown in the middle of my second day because i felt completely overwhelmed with it. but i don't want to throw in the towel on the job just yet. any advice would be appreciated!!!!
No. 1491582
Not sure who could make use of this information, but chatGPT can write a decent cover letter. It asked for the company, title and your relevant qualifications and spat out a decent corpo speak cover letter omitting irrelevant stuff I entered as a test. I know when I get back to job searching it'll save me a lot of time.
Saying that, my current gripe is that my department is phasing myself and my coworker out of all group discussions, most recently a full meeting on literally our projected workload. The manager was in there, our other coworkers are in there but for some reason we were not. We're external workers and our contracts end this summer, but to me it just makes no sense and is insulting to exclude us from a huge group of people, including peers on my level so it wasn't just a management thing, from what will literally be MY and the other coworkers work. I've been a petty bitch constantly asking questions and details to my manager to the point she knows it would've saved time to invite me but it's still annoying me.
We don't have much responsibility in our job roles but it feels like we've been pidgeonholed that this minimum of responsibility we've been assigned is in fact the maximum amount of responsibility we can handle, it's been whittled down for the past year too. My coworker has in the past asked for more responsibility and was knocked back, so whatever.
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So, I'll be starting my new job tomorrow. I'm really nervous and I'm really not sure what to expect for my first day there. I guess a lot of introductions, to people, stuff, schedules and such… But I wonder if I'll just jump into work right away, since I'm not familiar with it at all. I'm a bit nervous, but everyone seemed nice during the screening process. Wish me luck, nonitas!
No. 1492615
>>1491893Nonnie!! I hope your first day was a blast!! I had a bit of an overwhelming day having a lot of systems and processes explained to me, but I know it is doable work… I am just nervous because this is the first time I've really been a dedicated admin for a set team of people… It's like playing mini executive assistant and nerve wracking feeling that I might not meet their expectations…! But everyone I met so far has been very nice and kind.
My desk is in a corner, right by a window! Unfortunately we're only on the 15th floor and surrounded by other skyscrapers, so not much natural light, but I am happy anyway. I love being near big windows and will take whatever natural light I can get. Unfortunately, one of the co-ceo's office is right behind me… and he's got glass doors so he's got a front on view of my computer…! Scary…! But I get a work laptop and dual monitors to hook it up to, AND a standing desk and chair with back support?! I was going to bring my back cushion I bought for my last job! The standing desk is crazy to me, everyone's got one and I'm so excited because I do have back problems kek. Doesn't seem like the co-ceo is in very often though.
It's my first time working for a big American company that isn't retail. The office is like what you see on TV… little fun meeting desks, THREE kitchens (one is called a coffee lounge and really is like a lounge area, one is just a proper kitchen, and one is a mini kitchen), a huge meeting space where they host company wide meetings and events, and lots of little conference rooms. The desk layouts for each section is the same and the office is so big, I get lost very easily. Today I actually went down the wrong stairwell and got locked inside of it without my phone… I have the option of doing hybrid in the future, but aside from my commute (about an hour by train), I think I'll actually really like working in this office. I can't wait to really start to get the hang of their systems and processes and how to do things, I think I'll be okay once I know what I'm doing. I just came from a job where I browse LC and youtube all day to having to do lots of actual work, but I'm a bit excited to actually do work! I think it makes coming to this place feel more like a treat, a place for me to enjoy browsing. I feel like I've had too much of a good thing and I'm starting to take many things in my life for granted.
Also, I'm too scared to possibly visit LC or even go to youtube to play some background music while I work. Their IT team is not very "please don't click weird links, please don't set your password as password…" it's "you need 2 factor auth on your phone for everything, also here's this long list of rules for making up a password, also if you BREATHE wrong you will get locked out of your computer" kek. I'm too scared to do anything non work related on their wifi.
I am still sad having left my previous job- there was a lot of emotion that came with it because it felt like the closing of a very significant part of my life, but I think I am ready to move forward. Well, I have to move forward since I don't really have a choice. I would like to stay at this job long term because I'm tired of job hunting, but even if I decide to leave, I think I'm being set up for success because I finally get to learn so much.
No. 1492970
>>1491882well, i'm just an assistant. if you're going to school it means you'll get enough training to be probably at least a technician - if youre getting a degree you'd be able to do even more stuff, like be one of the pathologists in the lab. i don't have any training or anything (probably why its been so stressful for me lol)
its definitely busy, but it also depends day-to-day on how many samples are sent in. for my first 2 days it actually wasn't too bad, because there weren't loads of samples sent. but sometimes when they get hundreds and hundreds it gets really stressful, and yeah they would need to stay behind until each days quota (max 200 a day for my lab) is filled.
i get paid like £10 p/h (uk) which is pretty standard - i kind of wish it was more because it feels like a massive workload. technicians ofc get paid more because theyre doing more important work - lots of assistants train up and eventually become technicians.
overall the company culture is nice. im coming from retail, so its been nice to actually get treated like a human and have good breaks. you can dress pretty casually bc youre wearing a labcoat always, and the scientists usually have the radio/music playing while they work.
for my first days they basically told me to observe and then do whatever i feel like i can. its just been stressful, i have a hard time communicating with my colleagues, which makes me feel like i'm not cut out for the job. i'm dreading going back in case i have another breakdown. having said that: i think its a really good field to get into anon, and it's undeniably a cool job, you just have to be prepared to juggle a lot of responsibilites around basically. i hope that kind of helps. also bear in mind that different types of labs operate differently!! so i can only speak for what i've seen at a histopathology lab
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I had a phone interview the other day and the lady was shocked that I haven’t been able to find a job. I told her I was also an immigrant and she told me that’s the reason why nobody is hiring me. My husband is worried that she’s trying to discourage me from applying anywhere else. She even made me revision my resume today as well so they would get all the details from every job I worked at. Their business has shitty reviews on their google listing and on indeed. I’m worried.
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Nothing gives me more anxiety than thinking of getting that blue collar white girl tech job. Currently I'm studying and have 2 more years of college ahead, but only idea of wasting all my time coding to get a shit job makes me seethe. I feel stupid when I study, I feel ugly when I look at myself. I know it's stupid but I feel that in order to get a good place in life I need to rather get so smart and good at coding or be pretty enough to be hired just for looks and minor coding skills. I seethe daily and try not to self-sabotage myself, but something tells me I'll always be a shit dev struggling to get a job/become a disappointment for everyone around me.
No. 1495019
>>1491568I was in this position before (in a different type of lab setting) and the only thing you can do is bother people by asking questions. I know it feels really crappy to interrupt them but messing up this kind of work by forgetting some small detail is a lot worse and could cost you your job. Good luck
nonny!
No. 1495039
I'm two months into my new job and some of the tasks involves reviewing something and making decisions that art part making sure something on a checklist is covered, part making decision purely with your own judgement and logic since each case is individual. I'm obviously not the best at it yet, but my manager and co-worker said they trusted my decision making and left me to handle a bunch of these cases on my own so they could focus on other stuff as we are swamped.
Here's where I'm having a bad day and need to rant. They re-check and go over every single fucking case I handle. I have a list of instructions that I take my time with follow to the point, but there are so many exceptions to these instructions, so many cases of "yes, it says this, but this point here is just a suggestion, not mandatory" even though nothing in the text indicated this.
I was literally hired to take time of their hands. I've worked in insurance before and handled big decisions involving shit like death, unemployment, human crisis cases and more. My decision making is good, but being constantly told "you were too detailed here" or "this wasn't detailed enough" based on stuff I'm just supposed to know "from experience" is annoying. They're not bad people, but being told that I'm trusted with stuff only to have them go through everything I do is driving me insane. Either let me handle it or put me through another round of training if you think I can't!
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>>1494966I know nonna, just the amount of men working in this industry been slowly brainwashing me into believing I need to look good in order to have my shit together. IT/Tech is really sexist since it's a male dominated industry. Whenever I express my anxiety about finding a workplace/obtaining skills I just hear "Find a dev who will do your easy female job for you in exchange for a bj LOL" etc.
No. 1495145
>>1495065ayrt, it really is vile how men treat women in this industry. I feel exceptionally lucky to have avoided it for the most part. I'm fully remote, so I have the ability to do things that make it less likely for men to single me out as a woman (ie. not using a pic of me as an icon, not setting any pronouns on my profile, plus my name is gender neutral). the one time I was actually in the office, I got sexually harassed.
as long as you're not a disgusting slob and put some degree of care into how you present yourself, you'll be fine. think of a stereotypical "dev" guy, do you think of a stunning male model? no, you think of a fat disgusting neckbeard. looks really are irrelevant. no one wants a shitty coworker who drags the rest of the team down because management decided to hire them because they're "hot". the only time looks are relevant here is when management is making retarded hiring decisions. however, like
>>1495074 said, being super attractive can also work against you, because as we all know, you literally cannot win as a woman no matter what you do. I'd say your best path forwards is to focus on developing your skills instead of worrying about your potential attractiveness to shitty men in the industry.
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Me when I send out the shittiest, ugliest most bullshittest resume on this earth and try not to think about how the recruiters will cringe their ass off reading it
No. 1495439
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All the layoffs happening makes me so nervous. It would be one thing if I only had to fend for myself but my family relies on me for income.
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>1481432 >>1481432I’m this anon and I finally got a fucking job. I don’t feel bad about lying anymore because I impressed the interviewer with my skill assessments.
>>1495225If you’re autistic get in touch with Bank of America. I tried getting a job with them in admin but all they want is cyber security.
https://nitw.org/ No. 1495493
>>1495471Gimme more deets plz
nonnie speenfood me
No. 1495513
>>1495469If you want money in a short term, start learning coding, save up and go to a coding bootcamp (choose one wisely).
If you want a degree for an approval of your parents, go for a Comp.Sci or Info Systems major, those may get you enough qualification for a minor tech job. Keep in mind that in college they won't teach you much coding, therefore every day after assignments you have to code for at least an hour in case you want to have more well paying job.
If you want to be a giga stacey for mom and dad, then major in biology for 4 years, go to med school for another 4 and finish up with a residency. Become a doctor and officially the best person in your family.
If you want to make decent enough amount of money, major in anything engineering. 4 years and you are fine.
Before tech I studied law and this shit sucks, it's not like legally blonde at all and you won't make money that easy.
No. 1496320
>>1496167CS is a hard degree and they're currently going through massive layoffs in the industry.
I am not saying this because I think anon is too stupid for CS, I am saying it because it may be an exercise in futility and might make you suicidal if you don't really, really love what you're doing. Jobs in IT aren't as guaranteed as they were years ago and most of the work is absolutely soul sucking if you don't enjoy it.
If you're just in it for the money I say go for dentistry or become an electrician or something. Dentists make absolute stacks and aren't all obese, clinically depressed egomaniacs.
No. 1496388
>>1496351>It does seem like a shit career path unless you're actually good at it and enjoy it though.Even if you're good at it, it's hard to enjoy it. Lots of people go in thinking they'll work on badass projects and instead they're stuck working in a team of tech bros with massive egos, fixing bugs for a webshop or the next big accounting app and sitting in boring Teams meetings where bubbly HR women with hand puppets spout nonsensical corporatese at you for 3 hours like you're a child. And the pay is mediocre unless you're a neckbearded wizard and/or live in a city with an insane cost of living anyway.
At least sparkies get to work with their hands and move around a lot.
No. 1496391
>>1496388Samefag sorry I meant
hugs officers, not HR. That is genuinely what they called them at my old work. It wasn't even a startup.
No. 1496411
>>1496320>I am not saying this because I think anon is too stupid for CS, I am saying it because it may be an exercise in futility and might make you suicidal if you don't really, really love what you're doing.Absolutely accurate, I'm saying this as a senior software engineer. I like what I do I guess but I'm not
passionate about it, and in a field which is filled with scrotes who are really fucking autistic and egoistical about their work it's a constant emotional rollercoaster of feeling okay and accomplished one day and feeling like I want to throw myself off a bridge tomorrow.
I disagree about the jobs not being guaranteed because it depends on what you're doing and most people that I know are fully employed for years to come so at least there's job stability and good income (it is a male-dominated industry after all) but the soul sucking part? For sure. You can hitch up your salary but it costs you your mental health unless, like said, you're extremely dedicated to your job. I wouldn't say I don't recommend it because a stable job and a good income is already a good enough reason to pursue it, but god it does make me wonder how I can keep on doing this for decades to come.
>>1496388>they're stuck working in a team of tech bros with massive egos, fixing bugs for a webshop or the next big accounting appMy career in a nutshell to be honest.
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>>1494761Me too nona. I have only a year left to graduate in CS and I'm already worried about how tf am I gonna get hired. There's so much saturation in just entry level jobs like Help Desks. I'm not sure if I should even bother getting certifications, since they're expensive and it seems as though everybody else has them too. I absolutely hate coding projects so I could never be motivated to do one that hasn't already been done on my own, (I pretty much only do CS for the money and now I've sunk too much money in the college degree to switch majors) and have no opportunities for le networking or whatever since I'm in online college.
Any CS nonnies here, genuinely, how the absolute hell do you "make yourself stand out" and set yourself apart from all the endless competition? If I get a degree, well, so does everybody else. If I get certs, well so does everybody else. I hate that I was never taught about these roadblocks now, I was raised on my boomer parents advice to "just learn to code", and I wouldn't have to be the next Steve Jobs to get a fucking entry level position and work my way up to a comfortable living.
No. 1497568
>>1496971This is exactly why you shouldn't do CS or medicine just for the money lol.
If you want easy cash just go into trades, I still don't get why people with money as their only motivator choose long, difficult and expensive degrees they know they don't like enough.
No. 1498076
>>1497864>>1497871No free lunch but welding and plumbing pay really well.
>inb4 but certsAs if those aren't a thing in IT + 4 years of school that you know you hate just to end up in debt and a job not meant for you where you slack off and burden your teammates just because you heard it pays well. Lots of career changers at my job end up being the work equivalent of group project freeloaders and blame the job for their misery, then end up quitting anyway. If it's money you're after and you know you hate it, just saying, there are other paths.
No. 1499038
>>1496388> At least sparkies get to work with their hands and move around a lot.They get to fuck up their knees pulling wires crouching in a hot attic during summer. And if you think there's a lot of sexual harassment in offices, wait till you get into trades.
>>1496971Don't know what to tell you, I absolutely love coding so I did a lot pf ot + a lot of learning about the field and products/solutions + the uni classes helped with basic computer science knowledge, so upon graduation I stood out because I was miles ahead of the average both in practical coding skill, problem solving skills, debugging skills, theoretical programming knowledge and general knowledge of the field.
You can't just go into a field, do basic coursework at the uni, then think you'll graduate and do some quick certs and you'll dumpster the competition.
People like that are a dime a dozen. You are looking to stand out, but there's nothing outstanding about you.
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>>1500343Reading this inspired me to log into linkedin and screenshot the first insane post I found. This was the fourth post on my feed.
No. 1501129
>>1496971I did a CS degree and I've been out of school for a year. I had a very good GPA but my side projects sucked and I did no interview prep. The last year of school I ended up getting an internship at a fairly large company by luck since my side projects ended up being sort of related to the position. I did my best at the internship and got a full time position at the company after with a nice salary. After you get your first job things are easier, recruiters reach out to you more or ex-coworkers can give you recommendations that pretty much guarantee interviews.
My advice would be to just keep applying and do prep to pass a technical interview. If your resume has a lot of white space just do some basic weekend side projects, side projects don't have to be big for you to put them on your resume. I knew people where it took them 400+ applications to get their first job after getting a CS degree. Plenty of people get nice jobs and do them well even if they don't have passion.
No. 1501262
>>1501129Thanks for the advice nona!
Do you have any recommendations for side projects ideas? I can't seem to think of any, I get nervous at even the idea of starting my own project. Do you know of any ideas for some simple projects that I could get started with?
>>1500343Has any nona ever gotten a job through Linkedin? I'm not exactly sure what the purpose of a LinkedIn account is, besides just being visible to employers. I'd like to learn to network through LinkedIn, but I'm not sure how kek
No. 1501467
>>1501262So I work in tech in Canada and I have gotten ALL my jobs since finishing school on the LinkedIn Jobs section. If you add people in the industry on LinkedIn and keep a current profile you will also get contacted by recruiters. I don’t make any posts on LinkedIn (I find them super cringe as a rule) but I keep my profile updated and connect with instructors, coworkers, people I meet at events, etc.
A word on recruiters: I feel tech recruiters are sort of like men on dating sites, they will message a whole bunch of people without reading their profiles. So most messages I get are about jobs I am not suited for. But sometimes you do get something good.
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What's a good job? I have been a neet for almost a year. My dad died last year. My last job's boss was cruel to me, the job before that was when my dad died, and they let me go. I just don't know what to do. I live in an island, the population is 1-2 million people. Its so expensive here. I dont know what I want. I want to get into programming, but thinking about how I'd be treated, the possibility of being incompetent or being bullied is what terrifies me. Truly, I want to do art and make children's books. I hate this. I like programming, but when I think about how I also want kids, I feel like I won't even have a job after being a mother. Im scared that in programming, I will be looked down for wanting to be a mother. Is it easy to work at home with such a job? That's what I want to do. I want to code at home, I'm alright at it.. How do I get a job in such a competitive place? I'm almost 20, and I feel as if I'm wasting my years.
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Got a hotel breakfast attendant job for 16 bucks an hour, what should I expect?
No. 1501764
>>1501751thanks for replying so fast anon, i was literally waiting for someone to give me a specific amount of time to wait since im so indecisive.
i guess i just have a quitter personality and start thinking the worst when i cant get stuff done. 1 month sounds like a reasonable amount to see if i actually suck.
anyway, thank you so much for even reading my post anon, i appreciate it a lot.
No. 1501774
>>1501769they take you under the name of "scholar/bursar" (idk the english word for it so might be a bad translation) until you go through some amount of "security background check", which appearantly lasts for a couple months. i wont be paid well until that background check is over.
im pretty sure its legal becuz i work in a well known government company for my own country. still shitty though, and its the main reason i wanted to quit along with the steep learning curve.
No. 1502096
>>1501764Ramp-up time in software engineering/ cyber security is really high. One month is not nearly enough imo. Most teams will tell you that you won't feel comfortable and productive at your first job for 6-8 months. It's a lot to handle, not just in terms of learning, but emotionally, too. In uni, you have a bunch of peers to compare yourself to and a really formal support system. At your job, you have to pray that your coworkers are willing to teach you things and that they don't have unrealistic expectations for a newcomer, and you have to learn to cope with constantly failing at tasks. It takes time for things to get better.
Becoming competent at your job won't just happen on its own, though. Put in the effort, try to learn things. Ask for help, even if it's painful. When you're working on something that's new and that you feel like you're starting to get a good understanding of, explore it as deeply as you can given whatever time constraints you have. Your deadlines will likely be really extended because your team
expects you to spend a lot of time intimately learning the technologies you use.
It sucks to hear, but mindset is important. If you resign yourself to the ides that you're fundamentally unable to do your job, it'll become true.
I would encourage you to look for another job, since the terms of your current one
aren't great to say the least. But you shouldn't quit without a backup, as ime employers see having "failed" at your only tech job as a massive red flag. (I "failed" mine and left after 6 months. Though I got a 3.7 at a top 10 CS school, I had to job hunt for another 6 months and accept an offer that was a 30% lower than my previous salary).
Of course, tech isn't for everyone. Lots of people come to this realization after their first tech job. But one month is absolutely not enough time to know this for sure.
>>1501604The job search will be harder for a mother that's a programmer, but there's some tech companies out there that are very supportive of working parents. Great benefits and insurance, flexible working hours, long maternity leave periods, and even random shit like lactation rooms. There will always be salty male coworkers, but at companies like these, lots of men are fathers themselves, and they get paternity benefits that are just as good, even though they don't have to give birth, so they're usually very understanding when you need to take days off because your kids are sick or whatever. The startup life is probably out of the question for you, and you likely won't be able to put in the crazy hours and effort required to get promoted to a very high level, but there are a ton of great, cozy tech jobs that are good for moms. Everything I'm saying is very America-centric though, so your mileage will vary, but you definitely shouldn't doom out about wanting to be a mother in tech.
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How are any of these considered benefits? How does this posting have over 200 applicants?? Nonnies I'm so tired
No. 1502413
>>1502236do you have anything in writing or any kind of proof that you were asked to do that by your boss? and why should
you do it, can't you say it makes you uncomfortable or something? if you can get fired over it it's not gay to be worried nonna
No. 1502427
>>1502386HR did, the dude is like 20-30 years older than me so it is probably true (or at least that's what he told them?).
I just don't know if I should point out the shoddy work to the manager or just keep my head down and hope the manager notices.
No. 1502583
>>1502096anon thank you, your response was so well written and thoughtful. i always get weirded out by how many of you anons put time into giving advice to random strangers.
it sounds like hell to go through this for 6+ months but i guess you're right about the red flag thing. if i fail, i'll probably suck at my new job too with my mindset. i'll focus on this job for at least a month like the other anon said, and then stay for maybe 1 year in total but have a part-time electrical engineering job on the side to get actual money.
thank you to all anons who were kind enough to give so much advice. not to be sappy but i truly love you guys and it feels nice to have somewhere to vent.
No. 1502585
>>1502208getting that phone call is the first step and im happy for you nona. are you scared that it wont progress because of your social skills like talking during the actual interview? or is it about your ability to do the job?
btw if it is the first one, im sure that even if youre an "anxious autist", you can hide it behind "shyness" etc. to hide whatever communication skills you are trying to hide during the interview.
No. 1502616
>>1501685 hey, this was my job for a while. i worked 6am-11:30am. it was alright, i didn't have to interact with customers much except taking their room numbers. i was mostly by myself, in the kitchen, refilling the different parts of the buffet. sometimes I cooked eggs for the guests. i had to clean tables and mop floors afterwards, i'd say about 60% of the job was just cleaning.
i got a TON of free food so it was worth it.
i think it will also depend on the type of hotel. i worked in a hotel with few tourists, mostly local tradesmen and business men stayed there, so it was usually pretty quiet and they ate and left quickly.
No. 1502640
>>1501685depending on your social/life needs, you should learn to either a.) go to bed early or b.) not over-caffienate at work and take a nice nap midday so you can still have a life. it's very easy for the early morning shift to steal your whole day if you don't have a good sleep routine. just warning you now. I over caffeinated to compensate for being a night owl and my afternoons would go by in a sleepy blur before I crashed and I would wake up to the sun being down and feel all fucked up. otherwise it was a pretty good gig when I did it.
Do not (DO NOT) get into drama with other shifts. I don't know why this is so bad at every hotel…hopefully not a problem for you but there used to always be drama between PM and AM shifts at my hotel and in retrospect it was so pointless and stupid. too much snitching to managers who literally didn't give a shit because the restaurant made way less money than the rooms lol, and the servers/cooks/bartenders made WAY more money than the housekeepers so even the good managers were very unsympathetic to complaints from the restaurant/kitchen because they knew how much more we were making (something I only learned way later).
being a housekeeper was much more enjoyable to me than working in the kitchen. it's a harder job though.
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I only go to work only once a week but I always spend all week, especially the day before, anxious about that. I just started but I have a really bad feeling about it. My boss seems really inflexible and uptight. She already screamed at me for a mistake she made. I am feeling physically anxious right now I hate it.
No. 1503893
>>1503851Thank you
nonnie! Yes! A few months severance and unemployment luckily, that's the only thing keeping me from not having a mental breakdown right now.
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I'm considering applying for a job I'm not a 100% qualified for (I haven't graduated yet) and I keep going back and forth whether or not I should go for it. One one hand they could just say no and I won't lose anything, but what if they say yes and hire me and it turns out I fucking suck at everything. To be fair it's not like I'll suck any less after graduating since the studies I have left aren't all that relevant to the job I'm considering.
No. 1504134
>>1504125Apply if you meet like 50-70% of the requirements. If they don't think it's enough, they'll reject you. Then they'll interview you to make sure that you don't seem like you're super unqualified. If you're not telling outright lies, and they hire you and you suck at your job, it's their fault for not properly screening you or training you.
And there's no harm in applying. A company isn't going to put you on a shitlist unless you're doing things like putting in an application for dozens of open positions that you don't qualify for at once.
No. 1504675
>>1504554this is so exciting! i am so happy for you
nonnie. if you don't mind me asking, what got you into this? i love working with my hands and keeping busy i wonder if this is something i could start and learn on my own. i'm sorry your mom isn't so supportive of you, either, perhaps when she sees its a stable and real career like any other
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Last week one of my senior coworkers asked me to grab a coffee with them, but halfway there she decided we were having a wine instead (it was 1pm) and she basically sat me down at this dive bar and started asking me very pointed questions about my work, picked apart my work wardrobe, encouraged me to wear makeup to the office, and asked whether I see myself staying in our field longterm. She even suggested that she could put me in touch with one of her friends who is a recruiter in case I wanted to have a look at what's out there.
I was off my game last week because several members of my family lost their homes in a flash flood (they're all okay but my sister and baby nephew were nearly swept away by flood waters) and I was preoccupied thinking about them, but now I also feel like I have a target on my back, which is affecting my performance even more. I'll admit I could be a better employee but I don't know how I'm supposed to feel motivated to grow knowing that one of my seniors has zero confidence in me and is implying that I find other work. It's worth noting that she's not even my direct boss, I assist her in her work but she and I answer to the same person (who was actually away that day) and this feels like an inappropriate conversation for a senior colleague to have with a junior in such an informal setting. Now every time I walk into the office I feel like everyone is watching me and waiting for my next fuck up. I just want to quit, but I studied for this career and I refuse to be chased out of my first job before my first full year by a catty wine mom who cries to our scrote coworkers about her terrible loveless marriage. I'll organise a meeting with my GM this week and let her know what happened, because if she had these questions asked on her behalf I'm in serious trouble, but if not, I'm sure she'd be interested to know that a senior staff member is undermining a junior in the middle of a labour shortage. Wish me luck nonnas.
No. 1505128
>>1505111If it's really an ideal position it might be worth sending a follow-up thank you note for the meeting and affirming your interest in the position. (Assuming you are still interested.) You don't know for sure you bombed it.
He honestly shouldn't have asked you about family in an interview. It's nosy, it can be a landmine, it's legally dicey sometimes, etc. I wasn't there so maybe it wasn't that weird but usually the topic is avoided for a reason.
No. 1505154
>>1505128Thank you nonna, that's a great idea. I'm still interested but obv I would have been more at ease if this had never come up. It felt like he was just trying to get to know a potential collaborator but I think he won't be doing it again anytime soon kek.
Should include a short sentence like "I was a bit taken aback after disclosing my situation and fear I was not able to convey the full extent of my interest but I am really blabla.." or just reiterate my interest without mentioning the incident ?
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i hope its okay to post this here. i'm currently working part time in a terrible and widely known coffee shop chain and i go back to school in the summer online for my bachelors. i keep trying to stick this job out, but its terrible even for a part-time job and everyone is quitting, not that it matters for me personally. i definitely wont be staying for the remainder of my bachelors degree and the freelancing stuff im going to start up is going to take time, so i need a new consistent income part-time.
every place i search to find work, the pay is extremely low or its for some other big corporation/chain, or its fulltime. is there somewhere else i should look such as facebook for hidden jobs? are there jobs i can do that i don't know of without a degree? ideally id get a job with decent pay and little social interaction, im okay with fast paced but not the rate paired with the understaffing at my current job. however, i know i can't be picky so i am okay with settling on something that is at least better than here. im sorry, i just dont know what to do and i refuse to believe there is nothing else for me while i finish college.
i have never had a proper job, usually retail or factory work, and i really don't know what to do or where to start or if i could even find something good part time. am i doomed until i get my degree?
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>>1505340Glad things are going well for you! I'm a also a mental healthlet, and I would constantly fantasize about self-harm suicide while working my pharm tech job. But unlike you, I ended up putting my desire to go to med school aside because I didn't think I could cope with the stress.
It's a super tough path, but you're fucking persevering, and arguably past the worst of it. Grats! You should be super proud.
No. 1505682
>>1505675I really hate the bubbly corporate HR speak.
It's only a few years before they start sending Slack messages like
>OwO hi nonnie! You'we today's empwoyee of the day! Yippee! ^u^ but pwease make suwe to update Jiwa fow the day, othewwise you'll get fiwed! OAO'' No. 1506930
>>1506926Considering using chatgpt to help with my assignment but then realizing it may detect it as plagiarism
cry
No. 1506962
>>1506914Damn I felt this. I worked several 24+ hr shifts the last year at my last serious job (one was 31 hrs too lol). I did quit. I wish I had complained more and pushed for some creative fucking solutions to the staffing issues we were having because it honestly wouldn’t have been unreasonable to be upset at what they were asking me to do and they knew it, but I just didn’t think my bosses were going to help me or fix the issues. Still I fantasize about an alternate reality where I did that.
Instead I just kept everything amicable and gave them my notice and left.
No. 1507491
>>1507477no it's not an asshat thing. get your ducks in a row (a new job or savings, drafted resignation letter if you're feeling nice) and leave the one you're at asap. life is too short.
also in my experience they'll "need" you for sure after mid april too, don't get guilt tripped and strung along.
No. 1507703
>>1507477>Is it an asshat thing to leave a job when you're genuinely needed there?Would they employ you if you genuinely weren't needed there? No. That's all you have to ask yourself. If your job was rendered entirely superflous and was automated, would they keep you on the payroll or would it be "I'm sorry, we just don't have the work at the moment, here's your two weeks notice".
They're not your friends, they're not your family, it's simply a place where you exchange your money for labor. Every time your boss excessively blabbers on about how short staffed or under the hammer they are, "You're management, you're the ones that deal with this, organize overtime weekends or hire more staff, I come in to exchange my labor for money".
I work at a reasonable pace each day, the same consistent pace, and if I deviate from it I start making mistakes. I still get managers and executives going on non-stop about how they're falling behind and need people to work harder. I for the most part keep it to myself, but sometimes it gets too much and I let them know I really don't care and am just here to work.
No. 1508544
>>1501685Hi hotel
nonny here again. So I got this hotel job because I originally wanted to get this hospital job. I got the hotel as a backup. But the hospital wants me but in a different position than I applied for. It has no secondary interview and has a sign on bonus as well as being in hospice. Should I take it or is it not worth it? I wanted to do hospital work but I’m scared this might be stressful. The hotel seems only a little stressful but the hours are a bit rough. Thoughts?
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Yesterday, the girl training me just fucking went home because the office girls were fighting about methods to train me. I literally sat there in disbelief as she walks out the door.
Today she was back in the office and I could feel the tension between them. At one point she asked me why the other girl was so mad. I told her it's because of the day prior.
Later in the day I had an autism breakdown because I felt pressured by customers to hurry up with their orders and had to count money I'm not familiar with (america got to get their shit together it's all green). Of course Hr is constantly begging me to not leave because they see how smart I am. I just hope I learn properly and am capable of working on my own without asking for help all the time.
Should I even disclose I have autism at this point? I'm already hired so it's not like they can discriminate.
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im 1 month at this new job and I got word today that my title has changed from admin assistant to (industry) coordinator? no one consulted me about this and my manager found this out from his manager but he assured me that my work will remain pretty much the same and that’s all the info I got.
It’s an established company, but a new work site, so I kind of understand that maybe after having me working there they realize this is a more appropriate title for the work I’ve been doing. My managers are the best I’ve had so far and I do think the roles are kind of similar so I believe it a bit but part of me is worried… there are ways I can get screwed here, right? if they start to expect work of me that goes beyond my original job duties I wouldn’t want them to turn around and say “well, this is new title’s job” and it’s just strange no one consulted me until after my title was updated… what should I do to protect myself and keeping my eye on just in case or is this a thing that just happens?
No. 1509709
>>1509298Nah, you didn't necessarily do anything wrong by asking for more than their range. If they pay on the low-end, they're likely used to people asking for more than they can give. Though I can't say whether or not you fucked up by acquiescing.
>I was told I would hear something back by the end of the week and I still haven't gotten anything. Should I send the interviewer an email on Monday asking for an update?Never believe a recruiter when they give you a timeline. You should definitely send a polite email Monday morning, but not having heard back by now is not much of a sign that you're not moving forward. (Ghosting after phone interviews does happen, but it's more often the case that it's just taking longer than expected.)
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Need to vent about how bleak the job searching process is right now.
I'm in a niche tech-y field, and nowadays a lot of companies are using third party recruiters. I'm so done with dealing with these people, they are all vapid cunts who have no clue what the job entails and love wasting everyone's time. They aggressively try to get me on the phone for a screening, then we do the screening and they promise they'll submit me and get me set up for the real interview ASAP, blowing smoke up my ass, then most of the time they fall off the face of the earth.
I get why companies use third party recruiters (is it inherently a red flag? idk now) but it sucks to feel like some random retard is gatekeeping you from a job you know you are qualified for. Useless bottom feeders.
I have managed to go on a few actual interviews in the past month, so I guess my resume etc. isn't complete trash, but no offers yet. The interviews went well too, seems like companies are just incredibly picky nowadays, twiddling their thumbs until the perfect unicorn candidate comes along. Or god-knows-what really, I just have to keep slogging through this awful process on repeat until I get lucky.
Also just generally fuck all companies where they insist on having 5, 6, 7, 8 rounds of interviews for non-director level roles. I understand this has been normal for a long time in software engineer roles but fuck that noise too. And the trend is spreading to a lot of non-tech industries as well. 8 interviews and you're still hem-hawwing between candidates or whatever the hell you're doing? Your company is a mess, shit or get off the pot. Candidates need to stop letting themselves be cucked by these ridiculous drawn out processes
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Nonnies that have WFH office jobs,
>What exactly do you do?
>What's your degree?
>How'd you get that job?
I have a CS degree but I'm totally not sure if I want to do anything relating to programming. I feel like I graduated with a bunch of theory and very little programming skill (only learned what an API was while working on a final project and something tells me the workforce won't care about how well I can construct a finite state machine or a circuit board).
Job doesn't need to pay crazy well as I live like a hermit and my parents are cool with me crashing forever (not that I intend to, only that I can save money as I've been doing). It just needs to be WFH, as I'm heavily autistic, service/customer-facing jobs have gone horribly – once got fired for "bad manners towards coworkers", no idea what they meant but it had to do with me being too quiet or something.
No. 1510658
>>1510652
>What exactly do you do? CG Generalist for a large animation company (modeling and surfacing artist)
>What's your degree? I think it's literally just a diploma? Although now that really doesn't fucking matter. Everything can be learned online and usually this industry doesn't give a shit about where you went to school, more about what kind od work you put out.
>How'd you get that job? I was reall fortunate since I gave up job searching after a year of grad. I spent 5 more years in retail and a friend of mine mentioned there were openings at their work and I was able to get the job. My industry is really more about who you know to get your first in.
I will say depending on what your doing even if you WFH you might be in meetings all day. I find that I'm constantly calling people or vice versa. I think you probably could feel more comfortable though speaking with the same people day in day out
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>more layoffs impending
>everyone's either scrambling to prove their worth or too demoralized to lift a finger
>in the latter camp, likely screwing myself if I do survive due to thunderdome performance stack ranking
>trapped due to industry-wide hiring freeze
>on work visa
Good luck to anyone looking to break into tech right now. Life is a nightmare
No. 1510843
>>1509298You did nothing wrong, but definitely send a follow up email as it's just a nice thing to do and they might remember you better for it.
Today I screwed up. I forgot to reply to an email 10 days ago before going on vacation and now I'm worried I lost my chances with that job. Please wish me luck, nonnies. I'm so tired.
No. 1511053
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I'm about halfway through a two-year IT degree. I've learned a lot, and I'm currently studying for net+ certification too. However, I have no prior jobs or experience in the field, and even the lowest level "help desk" jobs are asking for an associates, years of experience or multiple certs. Do I just sit and wait a year until I get my degree? I've been applying to these jobs anyways and getting nothing but rejections for being under qualified… on supposedly "entry level" jobs. Other nonnies who work in IT, how did you get started?
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EVERYNONNY i have a question: am i getting fired?
>manager starts giving me less shifts (waitress)
>they've hired another staff member/waitress
>tells me to come in for a 'probation review'
>i'm no longer being trained on stuff i was originally doing, just cleaning big machines
To be honest, I wouldn't care that much. I did my best, the manager nitpicks, talks down to me, disrespects me in front of others, and genuinely cuts slack for everyone but me. It's really tiring. Does a review mean I have a chance?
No. 1511115
>>1511107Shamefully, yes. First month. I have tried hard but only my flaws are seen.
>>1511110Thanks for the honesty
nonnie. Can't say I care as much as I should lol
I'm not being gaslighted in this performance review, she's been a cruel and hypocritical manager
No. 1511486
I live in an area where basically all the jobs I could move onto are either HR or dental coordination. I have a lot of experience in project coordination, and I've worked alongside HR people, HR people who were goaded into trying to cover my job, but can't/refuse to because it's "hard" and you need to actually learn technical details of the industry I'm in so you can do project coordination.
I'm asking because I want to quit my job because I have a terrible manager, but every company I've interviewed for, they don't care I've done project coordination or what the fuck ever, they just want me to have experience with HR/accounting or dental coordination which is basically just scheduling. I do a fuckload of scheduling, but it's only a small fraction of what I do. I am confident I could do accounting, I'm extremely detail oriented, I have to be for my job, and I've gotten As in multi-variable calculus, linear algebra, differential equations, etc.
Every place I've interviewed at wants you to SPECIFICALLY have experience in those job positions. I don't know how to compete, I've tried explaining how I literally studied and picked up all these details about the industry I'm in to be able to competently do my job and I was promoted within 2 weeks of working at the first job I was at, etc. But it's like, they don't care about whether my actual job is more difficult, they just want someone to fill in their exact position. I wish I could bullshit my resume or something, but I'm afraid to, especially because for HR/accounting, they want experience in QuickBooks, which is utilized at all the companies I've worked for, but they've always only wanted their own HR/accounting person to touch that. How the fuck do I finesse my resume? I feel like I am doomed to find another job.
No. 1511543
Just wanted to vent about work. Sorry. I got informally reprimanded for something that happened at work. Several months ago, one of my colleagues was working on a project had to take sick leave. So, I was called around noon to work on the project ASAP even though I had zero experience or background on it. I asked my supervisor for an approximate timeline and she said a week. I started going through the project documents, developing a methodology, and documenting a procedure to complete the work. Then my supervisor's boss calls me three hours into this and tells me that NO, in fact it needs to be 100% completed this evening because she promised a bunch of other people several weeks ago that she's going to deliver it to them today. I started panicking and explaining that I need more time, that I don't understand this project, that I would like some guidance, etc., etc., and the only comments she made was refusal to give me any guidance (because she and my supervisor of course never touched the project) and confusion about why I can't get this thing I've never seen before done now.
I said there's no way I'm going to be able to finish this by today and begged for more time/assistance until they finally opened up the documents for the project for the first time, reluctantly agreed that no one here knows how it works, and conceded that I needed more time. I cried to my partner later that evening from the stress of it all. My supervisor told me yesterday that her boss complained about my pushback and that my conduct was unprofessional. Even though both of them conceded that there's no way anyone would've been able to pick up the project and finish it by that afternoon. Apparently, I was just supposed to smile & nod, work overtime, and let myself get yelled at when I inevitably fail to complete the project by the end of the day even with overtime. It's frustrating because we receive unreasonable projects with no guidance all the time on this team. I've been decent at figuring out how to do their various tasks, meeting their unreasonable deadlines, and even developing new processes so we can be more efficient and effective in the future. None of that apparently mattered, just the time I failed. It's so demoralizing.
No. 1511662
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WAITRESS ANON IM BACK
>going to be fired in 'review meeting' tomorrow even though>have cleaned extra>worked quickly>been as supportive as possible to elderly customers, they remember me >still, have aspergers- dont always catch the joke or go blank faced and quiet unintentionally, other things that don't stop me from working>manager talks down to me>humiliates me and ostracises me from colleagues>aggressive and disrespects my space>wrote a letter nitpicking, exaggerating, and gaslighting me on my performance, which is linked to my review tomorrowNow I may be an ass burger, but I'm not stupid. So, here's what I'm doing tomorrow.
>making sure my hair is immaculate and slay with my outfit >writing my manager a letter back, detailing everything she did wrong as a manager (ie aggression, hypocrisy, tip stealing, and obviously bad foundation)>correcting the grammar and punctuation on her letter, as a little favour>leaving honest reviews about the shady practises>talking to her in the same tone that she talks to me, without being insultingProbably will say goodbye to the customers and colleagues that were real. I'm honestly looking forwards to it. She loves humiliating me and won't expect me to stand up for myself.
>>1511543You work with some real donkeys.
I mean, calling it 'unprofessional' to set boundaries and explain what can realistically be done is a real d1ck move. Some people just like to control others, hate being questioned. Mini tyrants. Well done for setting boundaries anon, you should be recognised for your competence in taking on a project that's unfamiliar to you, not many people can do that. I hope this job is at least a stepping stone for you to something better, because damn I'd feel a bit crazy working there.
No. 1511679
So I got fired from a remote customer service job that I hated a little over a year ago. It was 100% my fault, I was a depressed alcoholic and constantly late logging in, because I dreaded getting yelled at over the phone first thing in the morning, and sometimes because I was just fucking hungover and slept in (because again, I hated my job). I would crack open a bottle of wine right when I got off work as an unhealthy coping mechanism. They basically had enough of my shit and I cried a bunch and got mad when I got fired. It was messy and horrible and embarrassing.
I just kinda…never put it on my resume: One, because having so much customer service experience bit me in the ass at that last job. I was trying to escape customer service and intentionally applied for a completely different department, and they said “Well, actually…we saw on your resume that you have so much customer service experience, so we’re going to put you there instead.” They stuck me in that department, and I agreed because I needed the money. Fuck it, I’m showing off my other jobs and skills instead this time. Two, because we ended on such bad terms they’d never have anything good to say about me. Now that I’m applying for other jobs, I’m worried that I’ll be fucked if they look into it and find that I had another job I didn’t list. It’s really not a situation where I can spin it into a positive “I learned from my mistakes!” story because it was just terrible and I figure omitting it is best. Idk Nonas. Wish me luck on this fucking nightmare of a job search
No. 1511884
>>1511486Literally go through what they want and tick the boxes. You have experience in HR, so say that you have experience in HR. It's not your main role, so what? You still know what to do.
Absolutely do an accounting course. It's not just numbers, it's knowing what goes where, eg an expense vs an asset, and how/where to record it, eg balance sheet vs profit and loss account. This is very important when it comes to doing taxes, which is why they want an experienced person for the role. I don't doubt that you can do it, but you DO need to know what you're talking about if you want the job.
And I'm sorry but you need to learn how to compete. You're not just honest to a fault, you're actively shooting yourself in the foot here. You don't need to lie, you need to show you're competent and can do what they need because you have experience in that area. Anything you explain away will be seen as an excuse- don't say 'I don't have this experience, but I have that experience', say 'As well as having experience in this, I also have experience in that'. This way it's a bonus, not a disqualifier. If you need experience from working in a job that has HR/dental coordination in the title, see if there are any basic entry-level positions in those areas that you can apply for.
Only put the relevant experience from each job into your resume, including experience that you know is likely to be relevant to the role but hasn't been mentioned. Add anything else that seems impressive, like your promotion, to your cover letter. Sound confident and proactive, and DO NOT use your grades to show how experienced you are. That's a red flag that you have zero experience in that field in an actual job. Apply even if you don't meet all the criteria. Call them after the interview to thank them. Ask for feedback from your interview. Ask if there are any other roles you can apply for in the company, because you liked them so much. The more genuine and capable you sound, the more likely they are to offer you an alternative position, if there is one.
And seriously, do accounting. That's going to open a lot of doors for you.
No. 1512094
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I'm graduating with a degree in statistics soon, and I have absolutely no idea what I'm going to do or what I'm even really qualified for. I don't have any sort of actuarial/accounting certifications, and it seems like most job listings I've looked at are only hiring for senior positions right now. I'm probably too old to intern as well, since I'll no longer be a student. I'm super freaked out. I'm wondering if I should apply for some of these positions that seem a bit out of my league anyway, if only so I can get my name out there or maybe I get offered something more suitable for me anyway. Would love some advice or encouragement for a first-time office job.
No. 1512133
>>1512131Shut up scrote
>>1512094Damn
nonnie that’s impressive! Statistics are hard and very necessary, I know you’ll find a place.
No. 1512158
>>1512094Look around for new grad programs/positions that accept people with stats degrees- large companies usually have a section for new grads in the 'careers' section of their website. With a bit of self-directed training I think you could also enter a data science role, which can pay very well if you eventually land a job at a big corporation. I'd recommend looking in tech, commerce, and finance (especially HFT shops and hedge funds, though competition for those roles can be extremely fierce).
While you're looking, it could be worthwhile to see if there are mentorship programs/communities for stats majors or people in your ideal role (there may even be some specifically for women) and get advice from seasoned workers.
>I'm wondering if I should apply for some of these positions that seem a bit out of my league anywayAbsolutely. You shouldn't waste your time applying to positions with "senior", "lead", or "principal" explicitly in the job title, but the 'x years of experience' requirement is often flexible, and sometimes recruiters will contact you because a more junior role has opened up, or keep your resume in their talent pool and reach out to you much later when there's a suitable position (that's how I got a FAANG job from a resume that was entry-level/years out of date).
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How bad is being an accountant? I have been thinking about trying college(it's free here) and it's the only thing i find remotely interesting, but you always hear people complaining about how accountants are soulless ghouls. Also, is 22yo too late to start college? should i even bother? I mostly just want to have money to support my hobbies and have a somewhat stable life.
No. 1512907
>>1511477NTA but coworkers obviously have a considerable influence on one's work environment, I don't see what's so surprising about her doubting herself if
all her coworkers exclude her and lie to her face about their group chat.
>>1511516 is right though
>>1511662How did it go waitress anon?
No. 1513146
>>1512264The type of accounting that they teach you in college and the type of work that you do in real life can be very different. In intro classes, you tend to learn bookkeeping. In real life, you tend to get diverted to either auditing or tax. I'm not sure about how tax firms work but financial auditing can suck (high hours, mediocre pay after accounting for the hours, a lot of conducting and documenting interviews and emailing people who think you're dumb and pointless). I would recommend that you look up what's expected of a tax accountant at a tax firm, a financial auditor, and a controller before going in.
22 is absolutely not too late. We had 30/40yr olds in my classes.
No. 1513200
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I’m a college student but recently got a full time job in accounts receivable. My degree I’m working on is business administration. Mom is telling me I should drop out (I’ve already dropped out of college once) because I have my husband and dog to take care of at home. I’m not sure whether or not I should even quit my degree, I’ve worked so hard on it and idk if this job will keep me beyond probation.
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>>1513428nta but that mental exercise always makes me lose my mind lol
No. 1513595
>>1513591WTF this is so fucked
nonnie. I would be seething.
No. 1514144
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>>1512379>>1512387>>1512531>>1513146thank you, gonna go for it at least for a year and if it's too hard/i dont like it then quit. It's just a year after all and i have wasted more time being a NEET. I will try to focus this year on perfecting my art and english skills in the meantime.
No. 1514407
I'm coming up on a month at my new job. The first day felt so overwhelming and I felt extremely under qualified but everyone has been extremely patient with me and the work feels a lot more manageable. Things are still slow as my managers (I assist several people and will be taking on 3 more C level execs soon) as I think they're hesitant to overwhelm me… or maybe they just don't have much for me since they're pretty self sufficient anyway lol. I'm learning that most of this job is just chasing people down for replies and answers. The work is thankfully not hard, it's just learning what information to pull from where and put into where.
I feel too worn out from shitty jobs and am apprehensive to do more than the bare minimum that will keep me my job, but I feel like there's an energy here to really learn and grow. From a corporate perspective it makes sense- why hire new people to train when you can just make your existing employees learn more? But at a lot of places I've worked, it seems like there was no thought of "enabling and supporting our employees to live good and fulfilling personal and work lives will benefit us in the long run"… it was always "wring out the maximum amount of effort, for the minimum amount of pay we can get away with."
I've been checking out company initiatives and joining in on things to try and put myself out there and meet more people (because I know it will benefit me in the long run to know as many people as I can), and that energy of "we want you to learn, we will teach you whatever you want to learn, we will help you get wherever you want to go" feels very genuine coming from my coworkers, some of who are on leading some of these initiatives. There's also paid volunteer days, and my company gives out grants for research and development, and even for green initiatives. I found a recent data sheet published on company servers to show how men vs women were being compensated to address their efforts at closing the wage gap (though some people did ask for office specific data instead of just firm-wide). I accepted coming in that I would just be a cog in the machine, I know my company does underpay a bit compared to our competitors (but people mostly join because it's a recognizable name with genuinely impressive portfolio of projects), but it just… feels like such a good place.
I came thinking I would just be complacent. I'm coming in for a paycheck, I'm coming in to do what I need to do and that's it. But there are so many people around me encouraging me to strive for bigger and better things, one of the managers I've worked with the most so far said to me, "Once you get settled in, anything you want to learn, I will teach you. I will go as far as you want to go." It really comes down to if I want to ask for more. I fear burning out and being taken advantage of again… but this place feels really nice so far. I wish I could've joined right after I graduated out of college. I was so optimistic back then, I had so much energy and truly wanted to just go up from wherever I was because I knew I wouldn't be getting a job in my field (and didn't want one in my field).
I mostly came for the salary, but their benefits package is very good, and things just seem to be getting better and better. It just feels too good to be true.
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tech jobs are in a hard place right now for entry jobs, yes? for this reason, i was thinking of going for a government job / something out of tech for a year or so, and i would also be polishing my skills and portfolio. i'd be waiting for the wider market to open back up, basically.
do you nonas think that's a good idea? is it tough to transfer into the private sector after working for the public sector (hope i phrased that right)? from what i've read of government it jobs they are kind of slow, sleepy, etc. that's all i want really.
pay doesn't have to be incredible because i still live at home anyway. very little student debt (maybe 10k, that will obviously be gone if biden gets his shit together).
No. 1516468
>>1516169Your boss is using up your vacation time for days THEY decided you shouldn't come to work so when you want to request days off they can tell you you don't have the vacation time for it. It's a way employers try to control your time and it's fucked. You should leave that job as soon as you can, huge red flag.
Depending on local law and company policy it's probably legal for them to use your vacation time without your written permission but it's still fucked up and a good company would have a policy against it.
No. 1516826
>>1516784Okay this kinda gives me hope. Ofc I had to fumble in front of the cold, no-nonsense director, but I at least think everyone else I interviewed with really liked me.
I’m actually trying to break into HR, but I hate basically everything about the interview process, especially how candidates are expected to know and always abide by the canned formulas for these cliche questions. Maybe it’s because I have no experience, but I think I’d find your answer really cute, or at least not use it against you. You were
valid.
No. 1516952
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new cs grad here again, how do i even phrase my resume if all i have are two very poorly done student projects and scant knowledge of the tools used to make them? no internships whatsoever
do i just bullet point the steps to make it longer/better bullshit them? for example:
>lunch prep
>>grabbed two slices of bread from tray
>>excelled at picking jelly
>>matched jelly to peanut butter using a knife
>>combined slices into a meal
No. 1517218
>>1516952>>1516952nonna it depends on what industry you're trying to get into. i would try to work on projects while studying for tech interviews for a bit. the market has so much influx of people who were laid off it might be better to hone your skills and look into what part of the industry you want to be in.
i would say making a website resume would help with your projects too. if you're a new grad it's understandable. also when you begin to grow more skills/projects you can add onto them as well!
hope this helps.
No. 1517846
>>1516468looks like my manager is just a dumb bitch who doesn't know how to approve hours or time sheets.
>>1516183they probably can but our director allowed us to use unpaid. this new manager is a bitch anyway, really contemplating on finding a new job because i cant stand her and the coworker who kisses her ass since she got hired.
No. 1518246
>>1517218>might be better to hone your skills and look into what part of the industry you want to be in.yes, i should've been more specific: i plan to work a non cs job for a year, maybe medical coding or something similar, and polish my skills on the side. i'll still apply to entry-level swe/ux/etc. tech jobs with what i have currently, but i really do not know if anything in my 'portfolio' is impressive enough to score a job. also i really want to be saving money by this summer at least.
just kind of effy on how i should phrase my resume when all i really have is a degree, a bunch of soft skills, and some generic software knowledge (excel, word, figma, all that shit)
No. 1519303
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I like my job but I hate working with my client. Most of them are fine but the one we interact the most on the daily basis is incompetent, completely unorganized. I hate going around in circles days on end, and for what? The end product is not worth all this stress. I want to quit, but then what would I do? I never have time to hone new skills from my job, it takes all of my energy and then I am too tired or physically in pain to sit on the computer some more, instead I go walking and just scroll here lazily. I'd lie if I said I wasn't directionless too. I wish I had a clearer idea of what I should do right now. I would love to freelance again, but I would have to do it by myself this time, and dealing with the government and taxes terrifies me. On top of that I would have to get all of the clients by myself, which sounds daunting, but hey, at least I would have control over who I work with, and could just not work with someone if our styles of business are incompatible. Truth is, I never wanted this job to last too long, but it's nice to have the safety net, and I like most of my coworkers. I need to be more brave…
No. 1519876
>>1519304ahh I'd really like to but this is a person I have to work pretty closely with. Think it would make things really awkward. Sucks to have a sandbag like that in a micro company.
>>1519303Same boat as you anon, I feel like my job and the product we are making is pointless but I just gotta pay the bills. I try to not think too much about it because it might just send me in a spiral. In the mean time I focus on my hobbies more than my job, really takes the stress away
No. 1519916
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It’s been a month since I started working at my job. Yesterday I got in trouble because the remote managers saw me talking with my coworker on camera. The woman training me couldn’t teach me anything because said managers are always calling her nonstop and she’s training multiple people. I’m going to continue doing my best at this job, grab that bag and if they fire me then whatever I won’t be mad lol. My goal was to stay there for two years then peace out but yeah we’ll see.
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I'm living in the limbo between my current and new job. All my paperwork is completed but I'm just waiting for the final offer letter and salary offer, which I was told would be sent this week. I'm just so ready to slap down my two weeks notice. Like I'm so tired here of everything, coworkers, fucked up managers, commute, the patients, the everything.
No. 1523852
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>>1523677Don't use those type of hearts anon. Use the one in picrel.
No. 1523875
I fell victim to white collar crime. I really don't feel like going into the details, but I was put under intense pressure to do something harmless but illegal, I stupidly did so, and they filed an anonymous report with the justice system behind my back, and then used that to blackmail me into resigning.
The cops, lawyers and family all told me I'd knock it out of the park in court, but advised me not to sue because that becomes a death sentence for future employment in a small city. The way they set me up involved many different people working together, which shows that they were exchanging favors under the table. The industry I worked in dealt with highly classified information, and the level of co-operation they achieved to sting me showcased that there was some serious illegal shit going on.
It really hurts, and it hit me unaware. I threatened to sue and got two weeks pay out of them and then dropped it, they were absolutely shitting and pissing their pants on the phone though, then when I dropped it he said "I'll give you a good reference" in the most mocking, sarcastic tone.
The feeling is like when you discover Santa isn't real and the world loses a bit of its magic. I heard of white collar crime before this but never imagined it could happen to me. I advise everyone here to read up on their contracts and basic law, you naturally freak out when you get given an ultimatum out of the blue and I stupidly did stuff I shouldn't have.
No. 1524026
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Venting for a second, I swear to god the more people I talk to about this, the more retarded my bosses seem. Had a big long talk with my boss today and it turns out our company is… retarded, for lack of a better term. They don't provide training but want us to become experts in 1.5 years. They want us to learn on our own time, even though we hired a veteran of our industry. But they didn't even think to ask him to possibly train the rest of us. They want US to train ourselves, and not on their dime. And they're not gonna pay us any more than we're making right now. Just… what the fuck is this work mentality???
No. 1524556
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I'm at 3/3 on interviewers not showing up for a job interview they scheduled with me, just in the past month. There's advice for when you don't get interviews and for when you get interviews but not hired, but is there anything i can do about getting interviews and then ghosted? Nothing bad comes up if you search my name online, and i can't think of anything else that would cause them to change their mind about me specifically.
Almost a month ago i applied at a warehouse store and a couple weeks later i got an email asking me to schedule a phone interview (earliest appointment was today) and this morning i got an automated email reminding me about it with a phone number to call if i didn't hear from them at the scheduled time… I didn't hear from them and then the person who answered the phone told me they're fully staffed and just collecting applications. THEN WHY SCHEDULE AN INTERVIEW IN THE FIRST PLACE?? WHY NOT CANCEL IT SOMETIME IN THE TWO WEEKS SINCE IT WAS MADE??
Why is this happening? Genuinely idk what to do
No. 1524833
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I’m annoyed as hell. My managers are fucking retarded and took away most of my office duties so I could prioritize the walk up window. The past few days it’s been cold as fuck (we sell ice cream) and literally nobody has shown up. I’ve been asking the managers what I can do and have left a paper trail of me asking in teams to cover my ass. Nobody has anything for me to do and I sat there for 8 hours staring at a blank screen. Management finally came around 4ish so not too long before my supervisor goes home and said I have to start cleaning the office like I’m some sort of janitor. We’re both like “no that’s fucking stupid” and my supervisor is going to make her start helping her in secret. I had to stop myself from breaking down like 10 times today because I’m supposed to be fully trained by now. When I got home I called my mom crying at what happened and she and my husband agreed that nobody would be mad if I quit my job.
No. 1525077
>>1512907Thanks for asking anon! I was pure shitting myself.
>meeting review>manager has other manager with her>i take deep breaths>admit to my faults >point out where there was a misunderstanding >stood my ground where i knew i was right>she tried to talk down to me>talked to her like she was my employee, in a ‘sweetie’ tone>gave her feedback on how she could improve , pointed out where she was out of line (i need you to familiarise yourself with grammar and punctuation for me, so we don’t give the establishment a bad reputation, it’s embarrassing)>here’s what else you could do for me…>she’s shook im talking like this kek>i also tell her she needs to moisturise, to upkeep company image >we finish, she tells me i was rude (she pretended to be nice in the probation review but she was a bully during the workdays) so i say>yeah…it’s not nice when people are rude, is it?And omg walking out felt SO GOOD
I am rarely this petty, but it felt good to do it once. I prepared the letter response and actually looked polished that day, so even though I’m unemployed, I feel really proud.
No. 1525278
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I just got back from an in person interview where the male interviewer commented on my looks and was just rude and inappropriate the entire time. I'm so tired, nonnies. I just want a job that pays well and lets me have weekends off from time to time. Why is job hunting the worst shit ever right now?
No. 1526123
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I quit my job on December even though the salary was very good because I was sexually harassed by my direct manager and that even though I was a very good employee with a good results I was never promoted and the managers always promoted their friends or girls who were willing to flirt with them. I spent a year and a half there and everyone knew what was going on but no one cared so I quit. Unfortunately I wasn't in a good place mentally to be able to land another job so I quit without a backup plan. However I feel like I needed time to get over the past experience. The problem is I want to work again but I don't know what to do or what jobs to apply for because my experience was in Customer service and it's a living hell to deal with people. Any advices nonies?
I want to be able to afford buying things again…
No. 1529288
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I quit my job today. It was because I was getting sexual harassment from an employee and I told HR straight up that I didn’t feel safe. The company is desperate for employees so I doubt they would have done anything about him so I left.
I deeply regret taking the job I’ve only been there for a month. My manager was saying that I chose the right day to quit because Friday is when she quits too.
No. 1529408
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looking for a help desk job. mad that there's nothing in my state and all "remote" positions aren't cross state
that said i did just apply for something promising looking so maybe…i will be successful
anyway any other cs nonnies started out at help desk? tell me some stories
No. 1529519
>>1527183I suppose then, if you don't want to live to work you need to find a job that lets you live. Think about your current job and past experiences and write down what you liked about those jobs (helping people, talking to new people every day, working pattern) and what you didn't like. That should give you a good frame to then look for jobs that fit. There might even be career quizzes online that can tell you what specific jobs you might want to look into. No job will be 100% perfect but luckily as you currently work now you can take it easy looking for a 80% - 90% perfect fit.
Also, it does matter how you perceive your job and how much effort you put into it. If you go in every day 100% caring about what you do and how the day goes at work then you won't have any time after work to do the fun things. You need to find a job you care about to keep stable and productive but not one that consumes your thoughts and makes you care about it too much. Easier said than done I know but I hope this helped.
No. 1529722
>>1529648edit: nevermind am retarded. okay, i've mostly been applying for L1 positions.
what do you mean by junior admin though?
>>1529534 isn't that more of a business-type role?
(learn2integrate) No. 1530377
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I'm so mentally drained. I keep having interviews all week that I think are going well, but I get the rejection email back that they moved onto a new candidate, or I get ghosted entirely.
I fucked up. I've been doing so many things every day that I forgot to go to an interview last friday. I thought it was this friday, so I was getting ready and check my email. It was the 17th. I missed it. Worst part is, no one emailed me about it like 'fuck you, you didnt show up or get the job.' Hoping that means I'll be okay? I emailed them back this morning and I'm currently waiting for a response. I said it was a family emergency and my phone was down. I'm just so stressed. I just want a job that is near my house since I don't have a car and pays me well. Please nonnies, send some positive vibes because I'm starting to lose my mind.
No. 1530499
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>>1502208just giving an update that this phone call did in fact not pan out (interviewer was chuckling at me lmao), but i just got an offer for a place that is closer, has better benefits and pay, and is more in line with what i'd like to do. don't give up nonnas!
No. 1530651
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I have a coworker that talks too much and overshares. I have to hear about her family problems and she even feels the need to tell me what Zodiac sign her dad is. The sad things I keep engaging back in it. She says she doesn't talk to alot of people and well, it's not like I do either. So I just listen to it mindlessly.
No. 1530659
>>1530377I’m sorry
nonny but as a former recruiter, unless the place is very desperate what you accidentally did (No-call-no-show, then claim family emergency) is the biggest red flag in the book. If I had a dollar for every time ive heard that excuse I’d be able to retire. But don’t worry, it’s just one place. Keep plugging at it. I’m with you right now in a job search and it’s grueling, so for you mental well being it’s better to just let go of the ones you fumble and take it as a learning moment
No. 1530668
>>1530377you should have said you legitimately got the dates mixed up, or you should have walked in like you never realized you were wrong if you really want to convince them.
"family emergency" sounds extremely fake. hiring managers don't call no-shows because it happens all the time.
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>>1529288It’s been a few days and I have interviews lined up.
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>>1531704My siblings is trying to help me get a remote job
No. 1531722
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I work in a dead mall and it's so fucking BORING. Nobody comes in and it's a miracle the mall has survived this long. I just go on lolcow all day and that's pretty much the only reason I'm still here. It's nice getting paid to basically post on lolcow and count money but every day I'm bored out of my mind. I wish it was christmas again so there'd at least be some christmas shoppers
>gif related, reaction image portraying my premature festivity
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>>1531722Damn wish I had this job nona, you are blessed
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>>1531724If lolcow ever gets blocked by the mall's wifi I'm doomed though. I can't imagine having to do this without the internet
No. 1531783
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Should I ask my old boss if she quits tomorrow like she claims? I have two interviews tomorrow so that’s good.
>>1531711Hope you can get that remote job!! They’re hard to get these days.
>>1531722You’re so lucky to shitpost all day. Sucks to be bored but hey it’s better than being stressed.
No. 1532292
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>>1531783I have anxiety so I would never be able to handle some stressful job that actually makes me do something. Even if it gets boring I'd never trade being bored for constant stress. I'm honestly so lucky to have this job, I got to work with my sister too in my initial first months which made it a bit more fun
>>1531786Sorry nona, even though the mall is very generic I'd like to stay anonymous. It's very modern and doesn't have much of a liminal space vibe if that's what you're talking about.
>>1531812I use tor, I'm not sure if that obscures it at all? I'm not worried about my boss knowing what sites I browse, she wouldn't care much, but I definitely don't want whoever handles the wifi to find out about it
No. 1533751
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Before the pandemic, I had a job was a beautiful 40 minutes to walking commute, lunch was included in my 8 hour shift, and it was a morning shift with a a weekend off. It was a shit job but it gave me a clear headspace outside of work and time for myself and my health. I was there for 5 years before COVID shut it down. Now, I work two overnight shifts a week, need to drive at least 20 minutes to get to work, lunch is not included and is a mandatory 1 hour break, so I must be here 9 hours a day, and a worms for brains manager. I'm getting fatter by the month because when I am not here I am so drained to do anything else besides my home responsibilities so I am always eating fast food and dont really exercise anymore.
I was unemployed for a few months over a year ago barely scraped by with monetary help from family and doing Uber (i know, i was a fucking leech and hated myself), yet I was so much happier than I am now. I was also able to draw a lot more during that time and sell some trending stuff on etsy that did pretty well just before starting this new job. Ever since I started working again, I haven't been able to draw anything I have wanted to sell or even anything that makes me proud of. I absolutely cannot quit in hopes of finding my creative spark because of financial responsibilities.
I wish so bad I could find a nice work from home job but it seems so impossible with even regular jobs not calling back. I feel my sanity slipping away here!!!
No. 1535214
>>1535098Personally as someone who prefers routine I would hate to have a job that would change every 2-3 months especially with having to wake up at 4am in the morning.
I guess you have to ask yourself if it's worth the $320 dollars? And also consider the commute between each jobs. If the 2nd job is closer I would just choose that.
No. 1535671
>>1535668Just be honest enough nona, they’re profiling you. If you lie you might end up with a team that’s not for you wich is what they were trying to avoid in the first place.
Good luck!!!!
No. 1535853
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I'm worried that my looks will preclude me from securing a perm teaching position.
I currently sub but despite being very overqualified, I am not given a chance I believe due to being very young and pretty.
I intentionally dress very frumpy in order to counter any perceived sex appeal but the kids still hear and see the youth. Older boys will straight up call me fit, ask me if I have a bf, and derail the lesson constantly with personal questions even though I tell them 'I do not discuss my personal life with students' EVERY time.
I am especially careful not to tell them my first name also. I actually also used to be a stripper as a teen, not that that info is anywhere online but still.
No. 1535862
>>1535858Oh anon if only it were true. Fuck my life.
Why did I waste years studying teaching when I am treated like some sort of potential nonce, as if I would ever fuck a teenager.
I had a job interview where the interviewer asked 3x in different phrasing what I would do if a student had a crush on me and how I would handle it.
It's so obvious. I'm literally a brilliant teacher with multiple degrees in teaching and I'm still not being chosen for positions.
I am so close to flying to Hollywood and trying to make it as an actress because honestly fuck this.
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finding shit to even apply for is tough. feels like there's simultaneously nothing, but also too much.
>t. cs major
i wonder why there's so much buzz about the collapsing cs/tech market and not any other industry btw.
No. 1538290
>>15382001 i’m perfect
2 my students literally do have very obvious crushes on me and chase me after school, and it’s a very BAD look. The school I have been placed in are going to take one look at that and think ‘That’s got trouble written all over it’.
I’m not saying I’m ~too beautiful ~ but my students crushing on me reflects badly on me even though I firmly discourage it and put them in their place.
No. 1538291
>>1538234Anon isn't getting attention because she's hot, she's getting mocked because she's weird. We had a lot of attractive young female teachers and they got taken much more seriously than uglier and socially awkward teachers who were %80 targets for ridicule.
Imagine a teacher that won't tell you her real name because she's schizo and dresses up in a super weird frumpy way. Would you make fun of or be attracted to her? I'd definitely make fun of her.
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>>1538290>>1538291>>1538294It's been 3 days and people are still entertaining this. Like who actually cares, op is literally the most boring post in all of lolcow and I thought we could all move on. I had higher hopes for you. I'm a lil bit salty right now but some of you are so spergically obsessive.
No. 1538305
>>1538294Huh I never thought about it like that. Maybe they are making fun of me kek. I’ll be sure to ignore it going forward
I thought they were hitting on me because they ask for selfies, ask if I have a bf, ask me to hold their hand, ask if I missed them, stand very close to me, and rejoice if I have them for supply next lesson despite them normally being in trouble with me or sent to the isolation room.
No. 1538309
>>1538305If these are 9-10 year old kids, them missing you isn't something that means they're infatuated with you or that'd need you to send them to detention over, wtf. Your whole post reads like a bunch of lies scattered together because it just makes no sense. You're an ex-prostitute who got into teaching and you're shocked when you have issues getting hired? Even though you get asked stuff that means the interviewer is probably aware of your past you never considered that'd be the reason you were getting rejected?
All sex workers know it's hard to get hired afterwards which makes your post unbelievable. I'm sorry but an ex-prostitute assuming little kids are in love with her because they're seeing her as human and interacting with her is super creepy. If you're not trolling seek help before you get into serious trouble.
No. 1538323
>>1538318In the other post you made you said a 9 year old student wanted a selfie and you got mad. Stop lying.
>>1538320Stripping isn't modeling or even comparable. I know sex workers irl unfortunately and I'd say random average girls in my college are prettier than most sexworkers I know so that doesn't mean anything about your attractiveness. Unless you're deformed or obese, you can become a sex worker, I've even had my ugly anorexic male friend get offered 100+euros for nude pictures, men pay for anything.
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>>1538361Also please break up with the man you're e-dating on another continent, I'm sure someone as educated and Hollywood Pretty as you could do better
No. 1538488
>>1538355I did actually and another lady who worked there said something similar happened to her with the exact same culprits, I felt really relieved.
>>1538359I sure hope so!
>>1538361I am literally not a troll, how is it so hard to believe that a teacher would have an issue with teenagers testing the waters with her?
No. 1538551
So I’ve been told twice at work, “I wonder off too much at work and talk to other employees” so now I don’t do that, ( well I mean I still do it, but not as much, depends on which managers are here, if there are certain managers there then I won’t do it)
Also was told that I joked around a lot, and was told not to do that a lot cuz some people might not take it as joke.
And before that whenever a manager would ask how I’m doing, I would be full of enthusiasm and say “great, I’m doing good, how bout you” now when they ask I just nod my head or give them a thumbs up.
Now they concerned why I don’t talk as much, and am all of sudden quiet. ( well I’m not quiet, I just only talk to certain employees)
No. 1539869
>>1538290Every young teacher that isn't horrendously ugly has to deal with this, male and female. Getting hit on by a student is nothing special. You just politely turn down their advance the first time. The second time you let them know that this will be the final warning before you notify their parents and that nothing will ever happen. The third time you escalate it to a phone call to their parents and notifying your administrator about the situation, the forth time you have a meeting between you, the student, their parents and an admin to address the problem properly.
A bit off topic, but why do people find conflict resolution so hard? It's a binary tree that you just work down, and each step it doesn't get solved you just escalate to the next level of authority. Private word, private warning, notifying superiors, meeting. It's simple, it's easy, and in most first world countries there's a firm legal framework around meetings that completely covers you.
No. 1539960
How does one get a job like anon mentioned here?
>>1388076 And do you need a degree for this type? I'm a NEET btw so is it even possible or not?
No. 1541043
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I just started a new job. Today was first day of training. It's horribly boring and there isnt much to do. My boss is a woman, but everyone else is a man. When i got asked to help 'the girl' in the back room, I went there looking for a woman but found a man. They looked like Abby from the last of us 2. I thought he was another gay dude, but got confused when I couldnt find the other female employee. I just want to leave, so I'm job hunting while I work there for now.
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I really like my job tbh but today I just realized how little I make. It made me feel really underappreciated, to top a shitty day off. I hope tomorrow will be better.
No. 1541357
>>1541138If he's personally conducting zoom interviews to get MLM
victims then he definitely can't afford a hitman. He's buried in debt.
No. 1541534
>>1541499>mid 20sThat's not even old so don't be concerned about age
As for AI, a lot of jobs are being automated right now. Yeah it sucks when it happens but it's better to pursue a field you're passionate about because at least you're driven to rise to the top. I'm not in tech but it seems like everything I hear about this field that it's a hot business right now with plethora of jobs to go around, which is something I can't say for my field. I don't see it stopping anytime soon
Just go for it
No. 1541553
>>1541499>all the ai technology coming outAI is kinda bullshit, it'll be YEARS before it's usable for any real business case and by then you might as well just give up on any knowledge-based job and just become a plumber or whatever.
I'm a software engineer and actually use it a fair amount (to write SQL queries, some boilerplate code etc.) but at the end of the day it's still me telling a machine what to do, which lo and behold, is exactly what programming already is. For AI to be usable in the software engineering context you still need to know what you're doing - be able to read and analyse the code it produces, be aware of various security pitfalls etc.
For the next few years it'll be a tool and nothing more than that. It'll definitely make a lot of tasks faster and easier but I cannot for the life of me imagine an AI building a good, fast resilient enterprise system all on its own and by the time that's possible pretty much all office jobs will be automated.
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>>1541041I do too, but the person who hired me for my current job admitted to me after a few years that he uses that question to weed out freaks. He enjoyed hearing people genuinely talk about their hobbies, and some people seemed to loosen up a little because they got to talk about their interests. He wouldn't count it against candidates who were shy about their hobbies or couldn't think of anything, or had generic answers like "reading" or "watching TV". The most valuable answers were the ones that served as red flags. Some of the ones he shared were:
>"I spend a lot of time on twitter, it's fun arguing with people on there because a lot of people aren't very intelligent">anything crypto related>"I'm an influencer/vlogger">"I like guns." Refused to elaborate.>Proudly admits to spending all their time drinking or doing drugs. No. 1550447
>>1346492M.S in Cybersecurity is a meme is required for management positions. Don't pay for your masters, you can have employers pay it for you or cover up to 75% of the costs down the line.
I have a C.S degree but from my perspective most the people in cybersecurity started in IT and worked their way up. There is no entry level pathway for cybersecurity so it might be harder to find a job after graduation.
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Nonnas, I am desperately looking for a part-time job now that my freelance art is not paying off. Found out a cheap store next to my place is looking for a worker and I want to ask you if there are any red flags i should look out for. I have noticed theyve got two employee changes this year alone and I am generally worried of being fooled.
One of the things you should do mentions that you should make sure nobody steals anything, but that makes me worry if that means _if it ever does happen_ I will have to pay for it with my salary… i have never had a job in a store before, so i worry about it.
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Nonas!! Ok so I graduated 6 months ago in Literature and thought I would never be able to get a job, but after 6 months of searching I got a traineeship offer at a software company!
The only issue is that I have never gone through the process of accepting an offer, it seems like the traineeship is guaranteed and they are now drawing up the contract. They said that they will have to 'do a background check to see if the degree I have can be validated in the country.' Does that make any sense? Not to be tmi, but I completed my degree in a country that is within the EU and so is my traineeship, they are just in different countries.
I really hope this doesn't fall through it would crush me. This is the best suiting traineeship for me and the hours and pay are amazing. I really need this for my self-esteem and career development.
I already got fucked over because I can't do an internship if I am not a current student at a university in the country I am currently residing in, and since I have no work experience it would be difficult to get a corporate job that isn't some type of internship/apprenticeship/traineeship.
No. 1552419
>>1551223That's a red flag right there! They're going to underpay you and say it's because someone stole shit. They're going to do their best to intimidate you if you complain or report wage theft. It's not worth it, find another job.
Other red flags: 'We're like a family here!' if you hear this run, it's going to be the worst place you've ever worked. Especially if it's actually a family business, those are a nightmare. 'You'll be expected to do a little of everything and learn on the job' means they won't train you but they will dump every single task on you, and if you do a good job you get even more shit but no pay rise. 'We all work hard and do our part' means you're chronically overworked and extremely underpaid. Any sugary phrases like that are a massive red flag.
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every time a job asks for a CV i feel like a caged monkey begging for peanuts.
No. 1554209
>>1553817I have very limited perspective on how this (used to) work in the Nordic countries in 2010s, I had to sent my degrees I wanted to use for application to the IT system I applied to universities with but I didn't have to send them to each and every university. I didn't need to provide translation or use any extra effort bc Nordic countries are like that with each other.
At least in the Nordic higher level education you can usually prove your competence in a course subject rather easily, and both formal education and e.g. work experience count. I had a friend speedrun a bachelor's degree in a little less than a year bc she already knew majority of the stuff and could prove it, so she mainly spent time proving she can do the stuff and writing her thesis. She wanted the degree mainly for bragging rights since she already was working in the field.
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haha. so i apparently misread the listing for a job position i got a call back for: it's remote in a specific city, not in the entire state. that said, the recruiter personally phoned me and told me to check the company website for positions IN my city (after attempting to not-so subtly convince me that re-location is a great idea kek).
anyway should i assume this is totally a wash and check elsewhere? or should i be hopeful that i might very well be what they're hoping for. i don't see why else he'd suggest i re-check the site versus deny me on principle. right? is it just pity?
so buzzy right now that i almost doxxed myself twice kek
No. 1554246
>>15538171) Depends on their agreements with other countries/universities. Generally no, they can't see. You need to provide a transcript of records, diploma (if applying to a graduate programme) in whatever format they specify. Generally they don't need an apostille unless you live in a bureaucracy-heavy country like France or Germany, but even then it may not be universal. Anyway this can vary a lot between unis.
2)Also depends on uni but generally you can prove you have taken courses in a subject before and receive credits for that, or take a test. In my experience this is arranged with your supervisor or professor individually.
TL;DR: Never hurts to ask.
No. 1554335
>>1554217holy shit i got another call totally unprompted. i was sweating throughout the entire time, apparently they've been anxious to get a hold of me. i'm a retard who never checks their voicemail. i know to a point it's probably just corporate song and dance (especially since the recruiter got a bit snarky about me not knowing what a certain framework was) but dear god.
it's especially insane because none of the help desk/qa testing deals have yet phoned me back. and this was one of the shotgun applications. i feel really sick right now.
No. 1559870
>>1556873damn congrats nonna!! tbh i don't really understand the point of reviewing large transactions if you don't even look for sketchy stuff? but i understand that you can't give more details. anyway ride that high hahah
>>1557758wow congratulations! on the job and the salary. i hope everything turns out fine but there's no reason it doesn't