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Is this yg prostitute?
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Momoland is planning a comeback. Y'all think they can survive with two members leaving? JooE's gonna have to hard carry.
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an anon said jennie reminded them of a young kim soo-mi and now i can’t unsee it>>66894
i guess it’s all on jooe and nancy now
kek she really be trying to show as much skin on the upper half
if she actually had boobs it would probably be widely criticized
IDK if farmers here know Kim Gunmo but he is the Kpop artist with the topselling album before BTS dethroned him in 2018 with Persona. He was well loved by the SK public until recent accusations that he is a violent alcoholic who assaulted women. On the Soompi article his fans are even trying to cast doubt on accusors like good ol' oppalogists.
That's what BTS, EXO etc will be in 20 years(this is an imageboard)
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I know this doesn't mean anything but all the teddy bear symbolism has got me thinking lmao. This is from two days ago.
imagine jimin throwing a punch kek
he couldn’t even hurt a toddler with his weak ass
God… this don't look that good.
But imagine if a more fuller chested idol was wearing this, she'd get shamed to hell and back.
At least the glasses and the bow matches, lol.>>66940
I think that anon is tinfoiling. Since Teddy is YGs producer and has made songs for BP. Some people think they might have a thing going on. And here she is wearing two teddy-related clothing articles. I think it's too far a reach tbh.
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I can’t get over how ill-fitting this dress is - it sits way too low on her chest and it doesn’t flatter her body at all. The hem is finished weirdly, almost like a very flat bubble skirt. I tried to see if it was a designer dress (since sometimes designers loan out dresses/shoes which are fitted for runway models and not to the stars wearing them, so the fit can be wonky), but I checked her Instagram and she doesn’t credit anyone. I guess she’s wearing this to advertise her sunglasses, which I do like. But ugh, it looks even worse from this angle.. whoever picked that dress did her dirty
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It's a ready-to-wear miumiu dress and it's definitely too big for her midget ass. The alterations are busted. If she wants to be the Asian token girl in LA she needs to step up her game.
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This group is literally who but as usual men doing what they want to children on TV because they're older https://twitter.com/kchartsmaster/status/1204475705419063296?s=19
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Dude was also sexually harassing her as well. He’s a literal nugu actor (he plays as extras in movies) but it’s crazy how he’s able to do shit like this publicly while being filmed and not even flinch. Everyone else present isn’t even doing anything either. Girl is 15 years old, this is so fucked.
Video here : https://twitter.com/alwayszziluv/status/1204613304242458628?s=21
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What the fuck? They got fired, right?
Jesus, I don't even wanna imagine what these young girls/women in these industries deal with on daily basis, without anyone knowing.
Inb4 Kim Gunmo and those actors "did not look like the wife beating type"
Fuck oppalogists, SK men are really misogynistic I actually feel bad for Koreaboo women who go to SK thinking they will find a boyfriend who is like a Kpop star lol
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I need to know what push-up bras she uses….
The fact that BP are hyped for being a "visual group" is funny as hell to me.They look bland and average as fuck without their stylists.
Jennie looks 60 in this pic.
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this is all you need
let's be real, all of BP are more visual than other girl groups who add plainer members like JooE, Hyebin, Dahyun, Chaeyoung, Chaeryeong, Sunny, Hyoyeon, Minzy, CL etc to make up numbers.
It's a bad photo of Jennie but she is prob strolling round in sweats without contact lenses, makeup or hair done, most idols would look worse than that much less normies
BP has the advantage that it only consists of 4 members.You could also arguably call Twice a "visual group" if they only consisted of Tzuyu,Sana,Momo and maybe Mina.
If she really has no makeup done in that pic,it just reinforces what OP was saying about them looking bland without their stylists.That's just what she looks like without all the glitz and glam.Which is average.Nothing wrong with being average,but it's also not "top visual" like people make them out to be.
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Sana, Momo and Mina are super basic and Tzuyu acts like a cyborg, like she's a retard or something
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i just don't see it, sorry. their stale bread personality doesn't help
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And BP doesn't look basic?lol
Damn, i must have watched that video 20 times. You can hear his hit land! And she's just there awkwardly laughing because she doesn't know what else to do. Poor girl.
Fuck him for saying they were just joking. He walked away like an angry madman.
thats korean "humor" tbh
almost all their male comedians act that way the whole ~angry ugly little self deprecating ahjussi~
as far as i know none of the most popular ones full on punched a female in public though so i guess they're getting bolder
Regardless of whether or not you like her, it's kind of incredible that the lyric video also has sign language. But I'm wondering if the weight gain has made her self-conscious which is why she isn't appearing in the music videos.>>66992
Looks like those crossdresser silicone boobs that drag queens wear, lmfao.>>67004
From an outsider's perspective, I agree that the foreign girls are prettier–I think Koreans know that too deep down. I also think WayV (the one with mostly Chinese members) is better looking than NCT. If you base it upon facial characteristics, it kind of makes sense because Japanese people have features from the Jomon people and the Chinese population has genes from Western Asian populations. That's not to say that those populations are always better looking but that they have greater chances of getting 'desirable features' by Korean standards. Twice is a rare case where I think the foreign members are the visuals, which is never talked about among Koreans because it's true. Koreans are nationalistic due to the tensions between East Asian countries–the last thing they wanna admit is that the most busted members of the "nation's girl group" are the Korean ones.
Anyway this is sounding like a race baiting thing so I'll stop here.
he accidentally landed a hit so loud i could hear it through the low quality video and the other one called her a bitch repeatedly by complete accident too. that happens sometimes guys, nothing to see there. /s
btw, neither got fired, both got "suspended", which means they'll be back in commission in no time. tbh i don't think this is uncommon treatment of idols within that industry AT ALL. that one taemin gif where an adult man (staff) grabs him by the ass still haunts me to this day.
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Twice foreign line could be a really successful classy Jpop girl group lmao I cant stand the cutesy concepts of Morning Musume and AKB.
Most foreign members in Kpop are picked for their visuals since they aren't good for varieties (lack of fluency) or interviews
- MissA Fei
- f(x) Victoria
- Got7 Jackson, Mark Tuan
- Gidle Shuhua
- Twice Foreign line
- EXO Kris, Luhan, Lay
- IOI Kyulkyung
- WJSN Chengxiao
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but here's this too tho
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I always thought it's just Key, as for Taemin isn't he known to be a ladies' man? As for Jonghyun, since he has passed I won't get into that.
>>67032>nct foreign line
Yeah I find the chinese members much better looking too. Yuta on the other hand…hes like one of the rare exceptions of the "foreign members look better" rule…idk how sm fucked up like that. Is it that hard to find one
good looking guy from a whole ass country?
Woah, what a miserable fuck. Hope he gets his ass handed to him. How much of a piece of shit do you have to be to hit a 15-year-old girl and call her a prostitute?>>67043
Ugh, I clenched.
mad over what kek. are you that anon from a few threads ago that went on a hate sperg over DAHhyun for almost half a thread? can tell because you still haven't figured out how to spell her name>>67071
cringe. look them up yourself and form your own opinions
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I’ve seen someone mention how asians kids with sharp features grow up to have even sharper. I agree with that,Jihyo was definitely prettier as a child. Now she looks like she should be a part of twice foreign line
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damn the effects of weightloss,,
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lol when they go easy on the shooping
Surprise, no one complains about how this isnt a kpop thing thus shouldn't be discussed here. Seriously where are those anons? Kek.
On the other hand, that guy is really disgusting. I imagine the girl didn't quite understand what he was saying/didn't want to be rude to him.
Nta but what are you talking about? It's da-hyun not dah-hyunhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahyun
Even her name is hangul is just Da-hyeon
they already made her come out with a clarification statement as well apologizing for the fuss. that poor girl.http://www.asianjunkie.com/2019/12/11/chaeyeons-busters-company-releases-official-statement-on-incident-choi-young-soo-responds-to-accusations/
here's the video of one of the dudes calling her a bitch + derogatory jokes about her needing listerine to wash her mouth referencing oral sex. this girl is 15. i'm sick. why is korean media so degenerate? if this is what they're like when the cameras are on i can only imagine what kind of shit goes down behind closed doors. she doesn't even look phased or bothered by what's being said, already socialized at a young to accept this kind of treatment as normal https://twitter.com/i/status/1204613304242458628
CL is already 28 and has had no career outside 2ne1 and never will so it isn’t really necessary for her to loose weight tbh. also she isn’t pretty amd does not have very good proportions either so it wouldn’t make that much of a change.
In regards to Kyla i don’t know. I remember some former pristin members now in their new group did some scenes in their mv that was supposed to represent Pledis make them go on diets on something
its the sweet innocent eyed angelic blonde models he gets with. why you think he goes to those fashion shows?>>67044>>67049
this is an old topic, everyone knows it. not gay, taemin gets around A LOT. can we please stop this "might be gay" nonsense? whats next? heechul? these groupie shaggers def arent gay.
how the heck did that even come into existence?
yellow fever: thinking the women are sweet and obedient ok, i disagree but i can logically understand the nonsense. i dont get the white chicks one. can someone explain?
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The Produce 101 Japan winners look so…..average… Even PD101 China had cuter guys.
a bit off topic but fuck it lol
The submissive asian woman stereotype is hilarious and wrong kek have these people ever heard of tiger moms?
They only think he’s gay because of his appearance
and I guess move didn’t help
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I mean if you look at the overall contestants… I guess they're the better looking ones? Kek. I remember anons mentioning some good looking dudes there (like 3 or 5 of them) idk if they got into the finals though. Judging from the pic I don't think they did?
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I don't care much if taemin is gay or not. I just pity anyone or anything that has to fuck him while looking like this kek. He used to be cute, idk what happened.
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i think its also weight. seems to go right to the face.
pic must be after some concerts, lost weight, doesnt look as bloated.
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lol jimin park from 15& looks like this now in her attempt to drastically become hot
Most Korean/Asian/Arab/Indian dudes lowkey see white women as a sexual bucket list experience (like how Caucasians see Asian women too), because of the sheer amount of white people porn there is online. 80% of porn features white people and most non-white men jack off daily to white porn actresses because of the lack of Indian or Arab porn.
Hence why white women especially blondes get sexually harassed travelling in Egypt or India, because those dumb degenerates associate white women with porno women they jack off to every day.
But if you ask Korean men to marry someone white they will complain that they only wanna marry someone who cooks Korean food and that SK women aren't as degenerate as Japanese or white women who do porn, all while jacking off to JAV or white porno actresses.(racebait)
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Did I? His look nowadays reminds me of the ~human Ken doll~ which isn't a compliment. He just looks so unnatural and plastic-y. It doesn't even have anything to do with age cause those tvxq dudes are looking good still.
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It's like Taemin got surgery to look like Oli London
She does this because no one will listen to her boring ass music, then complains when this is all she gets attention for.
Baek Yerin, meanwhile, has a #1 on all charts.
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>>67129> tvxq dudes are looking good still
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I'm sure koreans know that. And that's why they do things like declare chinless Nayeon as their fav and get mad about the foreign girls' pronounciation (as if that matters in something that sounds like an uwu kids song)>>67043Oof
, I hope that's not what it looks like (but it probably is…)
Odd that he still dresses so feminine, one would think that a guy who grew up not only oggled by female fans but also harrassed by male pedos would do everything to look as strong and manly as possible. At this point of his career he definitely has a hand in his styling, so he likely chooses to look like Kris Jenner's head on a twink body.
But I don't think he's gay either, the standards of gay behavior are just completely different in the Asia.>>67139
Heechul (and maybe some of the other older idols) is his fan, but I highly doubt that newer groups even know him. Bts also clearly had zero idea who Yoshiki was when they took a pic with him.>>67141
What is this extremely low resolution pic supposed to prove? If that's his "bad" look, then that still means he looks younger than every single member of sperm.
WHO SAID BETTER LMFAO
are YOU retarded?
the bitch is stocky, that was my only point. move the fuck on
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And i don't even have to be a stan to have some common sense, which you clearly lack of
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>>67160>move the fuck on
Yeah if you could move the fuck on that'd be great>pic from #42
Jaejoong got into the circle of all of the older vkei and jrock guys (mainly Hyde and Yoshiki) but the last time I checked he’d never interacted with Gackt apart from when TVXQ were on a music show with him years ago. I miss the drama of 2004-2009 K-pop and J-pop so I wish there was a juicy reason behind it but I doubt it’s that deep.
One of my favourite pieces of gossip lost to old boards and stuff was that Jaejoong and Ayumi Hamasaki have massive issues with each other after being friends for a while, but he’s not relevant or milky enough for anything to come out of it now. The “hurrrr K-pop isn’t fun anymore” stuff annoys me but it’s true that old idols had scandals that were more fun than either being just talentless and ugly or being a genuinely disgusting person. BP don’t even have interesting bullying scandals
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Claims to be born in 1996. Fucking sad that a 26 year old has to lie about her age.
After lunar new year -> only 1 year older than the western age
Before -> 2 years older
Vivi is the worst tho. Someone here said the same about tiffany but im not sure.
Tiffany lied about her age? woah what a pioneer>>67225
agreed. kpop should stop debuting underage idols, so all the pedos could just fuck off about ppl in their 20s being too old for this
Top 10 best-selling artists in 2019
BTS — 6,037,765
SEVENTEEN — 1,455,758
TWICE — 1,140,501
GOT7 — 646,445
EXO — 641,270
X1 — 639,117
Baekhyun — 554,478
MONSTA X — 535,721
KangDaniel — 503,558
NU’EST — 491,803
Top 10 best-selling boy groups in 2019
BTS — 6,037,765
SEVENTEEN — 1,455,758
GOT7 — 646,445
EXO — 641,270
X1 — 639,117
MONSTA X — 535,721
NU’EST — 491,803
SUPER JUNIOR — 429,375
StrayKids — 424,965
EXO_SC — 412,590
Top 10 best-selling girl groups in 2019
TWICE — 1,140,501
BLACKPINK — 368,857
Red Velvet — 345,831
IZ*ONE — 325,295
MAMAMOO — 206,800
WJSN — 205,755
GFRIEND — 192,514
ITZY — 119,704
Dreamcatcher — 67,513
fromis_9 — 67,106https://www.knetizen.com/top-10-best-selling-artists-boy-groups-girl-groups-solo-artists-rookies-in-2019/
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Junsu was allowed to appear on korean tv for the first time in 10 years, but judging by his apartment the struggle was worth it.
Yunho and Changmin also showed their places and they by far don't live as luxuriously as him or Jaejoong. The price for the units in the tower ranges from 4 to up to 30 million. https://www.allkpop.com/article/2019/12/jyjs-junsu-reveals-his-cars-and-ultra-luxury-house-in-lotte-world-tower-netizen-reactions>>67249
It's because they only came back last week. But Seventeen seems to be really popular in Korea, while western kpoppies don't really care about them. Same for Nuest, Produce 101 really saved them.
And the differences between girl groups and boy groups are huge…
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Predebut they were already pretty
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That video is from 2006 when they just debuted. Chaeyoung has too many trashy tattoos now, including a cupid heart on her neck. At least she doesn't hide them 24/7 like coward Jungkook.https://www.koreaboo.com/lists/6-twice-chaeyoungs-tattoos-make-even-stunning/
Dahyun is just meh skillwise.
1)twice debuted in 2015
2)ew her tattoos are fugly
3)dahyun looks cute with dark hair
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Who is Juvis trying to kid? Kek
god the bar is set so low for males its disgusting
cant wait till he gains it all back and then some just like the other two times he ~went on a diet~, because thats the only time he's relevant is when he loses weight and gains it back lmao
Itzy girls are cute enough but they have no standout visual, not like Doyeon or Sulli or Nana-tier. The only "visual goddess" idols JYP ever had are Suzy, Somi and Tzuyu, and personally I find Suzy even blander than Yoona.
I guess JYP is trying to create a more "approachable" image in his idols so he only casts the girl/boy-next-door types
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HyunA was in the original WG line-up and I think she was always a standout visual. Somi is meh, even Koreans find her old-looking (they call her Ida Daussy) and said she looked late 20s during her IOI days when she was 15-16.
I find Itzy Yuna pretty for her age. Not sure why Ryujin doesn't stand out in Itzy anymore when she was a star on Mix9.
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>>67301>no racebait>is racebait>>67302
To each their own, I only found Hyuna gorgeous in the Troublemaker and Red eras. She needs eyebrows to look good. Yuna is pretty, but her creepy shit-eating grin is disturbing to watch after a few seconds.
Ryujin doesn't stand out because she doesn't suit outlandish hair colours, and for some reason her overall facial expression seems angrier/more serious. Something is definitely different from her Mixnine days
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i agree.. she’s really pretty but her smile weirds me out
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Hyuna's makeup face is the opposite of inoffensive, she always look OTT sultry and sexy. But even barefaced she stands out when you see her next to her groupmates
I find her smile just as pretty as every other person's, it's just that she only has 2 facial expressions and that can get tiring
she still has lots of room for improvement tho, considering how young she is
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Actually the prettiest member in 4minute was jihyun and will always be jihyun.
Some anons here seem to equate relevancy and fame with a female idols looks…hyuna might have been the most famous 4minute member but jihyun was still better looking than her.
Jihyun is a irrelevant flop and no one really knew or cared about her in 4minute because she had no charisma and had barely had any lines in 4minute but people could still objectivily agree she was the prettiest.
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wtf olivia hye predebut
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nope this too
it actually says her name too
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Biggest LOL in the century.
Bitter spoiled eggs and nctfags now cannot use the ''seventeen are irrelevant'' excuse now, eggs must be mad that svt is now more famous than their fave botched lobotomies exo.
And Mingyu will always be the original hot ''sea-looking'' guy because Lucas looks like a monkey orangutan version of him.(ban evading rat)
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Eh you used a photo with contacts and dyed hair. She looks average
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Article: Han Seohee exposes Jung Daeun for assaulting her.
Source: Mydaily via Nate
1. [+202, -19] She's living quite the rollercoaster of a life with that pretty face of hers…
2. [+165, -7] Every time her name is in the media, she brings with her bomb-tier news
3. [+127, -10] She needs stability..
4. [+30, -6] One thing's for sure, her mental is not normal… so don't leave any hate comments…
5. [+28, -2] Quite the abnormal life… I feel bad for her…
Source: TV Report via Nate
1. [+121, -9] Maybe they're both drunk… or high… but you're both weird to me
2. [+96, -7] If you were assaulted, you should be reporting it to the police. Why are you on Instagram?
3. [+94, -13] What a psycho… from a druggie feminist lesbian… who had some fun exposing other celebrities, and now she's fighitng to the brink of death with her own partner
4. [+16, -4] What're you doing with your pretty face…
5. [+14, -0] Both of them look so normal, why do they choose to live like this
6. [+8, -1] Don't feed the troll
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Hyuna should've never fucked around with her face, she has the kinda of natural beauty Koreans like a lot but her sexy concepts led her down the path of PS
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psychopathic kpoppies celebrating
this is a general idol sickness (well or many people who operate out in the open like that).
some just have less control over themselves than others.
SNS addiction is probably a 21st century mental illness, especially if you do increasingly questionable things to gain attention like spray whipped cream into your mouth, post about domestic violence etc.
If Han Seohee is in a real domestic violence situation, she should pack up, leave and move out immediately, not make SNS posts to gain clout for being a victim
Ahh so the egg rat was the batshit svtfag from a couple threads back this whole time? Wow what a twist.
Neither an """egg""" nor an nctfag nor a spermy but imo Mingyu is far less attractive than Lucas. The latter has more interesting, modelesque features despite all the heat he gets in here for being a "seamonkey".>>67327
How many comebacks did seventeen have this year? 3?
nah. "no offense but [insert something highly unlikely to happen but that OP wishes would happen anyway] would suck" is a common twitter copypasta of sorts, its considered good luck to quote tweet someone elses "unlikely thing actually happened" tweet with your own wish - thats what the wonho OP was most likely doing.
no news on wonho from what i know and i hope he stays gone tbh.
seventeen came back in spring right? meanwhile exo came back last week. at least try to mask the fact that you are a ratmy plz>>67330
if this is real i hope she actually gets help and leaves asap rather than staying. it's crazy what attention seeking can do to people it's really sad
The comments of i-nets are even worse, zero sympathy. They either say that it was mutual and that surely Seohee hurt her as well, or they downright say that she had it coming. Also "there was the sympathy when Wonho was accused?!". Appearantly transphobic and opparphobic comments are deserving of domestic violence.
At least give her the benefit of the doubt.
>Funny how they are preaching to not leave hate comments and to be careful but said and did everything under wonho articles…>OMG, they were just leaving hate comments on Jihyo articles, but lets respect HSH a transphobe and drug dealer to minors of all, wtf? How does this person manage to get sympathy every single time but innocent female idols get bullied? She's a patological liar and i have my doubts about the abuse>Put them both in jail and let them rot.>You lay down with dogs you get flees with them.>I don't have sympathy for people who actively try to ruin other people's lives unprompted>By a show of hands, who pities HSH?>I'd think that no one with a sound mind would SUPPORT an abuser, but who exactly pities HSH? That girl is so toxic I->Seohee has spent her life being an evil bitch, she doesn't deserve empathy.>Not saying she deserves it but life has a funny way at knocking your ass down a notch or 2. >Jung Daeun… you should've choked her harder… what a failure.>funny how these bitches never do anything, like if you're being abused go to the police. >GOD GOT HER
imagine thinking exposing oppars for doing illegal shit makes domestic abuse and murder perfectly justified
these peoples degeneracy goes beyond cow fanfics
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Cherry Bullet, a nu-gu with 2 songs lost 30% of their members officially today. They had been promoting without them for a while but now their contracts have been officially 'terminated'
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Damn. Lookin a little rough there, scammy.
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It's just the lack of bangs. Momo looks the same in another predebut photo
BTS and Mamamoo started out as nugu groups too. Their group names and member names are super outlandish even in Korean (Rapmon and Bangtan Seonyeondan kek) but it didn't stop them from achieving fame.
Sadly out of 100 nugu groups outside CJ SM YG JYP only 1 or 2 will reach that level of fame, but it will make 1000 idol trainees believe in the lies peddled by nugu companies to hit it big like BTS.
Yuck spoiler that shit.
Taeyong is gross inside and out
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Tiffany wasn't the pioneer though. This woman (Lee Gai of Baby VOX) was kek. She lied about being 20 when she was actually 30. Even worse than vivi.
i mean his skin isn't the worst i've seen
i see worst skin everyday
Can't tell if he'd come out as gay or trans though…would he be more accepted as
trans ? Since there's a famous transgender singer already..
For BTS it is concept (the whole self love message and BTS universe nonsense is teenager crack) and the group dynamic that won fans over, EXO has the group dynamic of limp veggies and their concept is no different to TVXQ or SuJu.
For Mamamoo it is vocal talent and girlcrush concept, the girls can actually sing live and have more stage presence than most big 3 girl groups, people actually want to watch them perform on stage and book them even if they aren't as pretty as Twice or BP. Hwasa performed with JYP recently but if she ever tried to audition for a big 3 idol agency she would not pass due to her looks (JYP also failed IU, he says he picks trainees on "star quality"), Mamamoo's looks are the kind that gets slated for being ugly in Korea especially Hwasa and Moonbyul. But their stage presence is way better than Momoland, Twice, Gfriend, RV, etc because they sing live and don't stick to prissy concepts.
99% of girl groups have too many filler members (Loona) who dance and sway around lipsyncing 2 lines, or can't perform any vocally challenging song live at all, which waters down the group dynamic. Or they have members who want to use their idol career to jump into acting ASAP (Yeonwoo).
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good post. i wish non edited pics were more easily available!>>67404
im sure plenty have good skin with their weekly visits to dermatologist. just not all the time. that irene pic from last thread. i thought her skin was rather good, obviously no one has 'perfect' skin.>>67405
its edited to appear smoother but he obviously went out looking like that with the pink cheeks and lips. not sure about the paleness - which part is makeup and whitewash.
wish they wouldnt whitewash so much. do they do it to stand out more? pic related - here what gets my eyes is the left fan. seems to be mogging the rest in the picture. is that the clean skin/pale effect and thats why they whitewash?>>67428
what are you smoking? why on earth would he say he is trans? cause its 'more accepted'? oh come on. come back to reality.
Lmao at v's face
Edited: ~the most hansum guy in the world~ my ass
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Not every gay guy wants to become a woman though (e.g. ezra miller). Even with everything he's done jokwon has never got backlash, I guess the korean public are more comfortable with that "gay in denial" image rather than someone who fully comes out as gay/trans. Him in this vogue photo shoots for example was praised for being daring, expressive, charming, etc. He was even cast in a musical about drag queens and transsexual. There's just no need for him to come out any time soon when the state he is in now is very comfortable.
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Yeah she didn't lmao. Idk how the company fell for that or maybe it was planned by them? Idk.
BTS and Mamamoo had something different to offer and constantly did festivals and such to get their name out there. G-Idle isn't a Big 3 group (though I guess you could argue their company isn't totally nugu) but they're making a name for themselves because their sound is very distinct (aka "ethnic hip" kek)
These new nugu GGs are just ripping off Big 3 group concepts and calling it a day, which isn't a sustainable way to set their group apart from the rest.>>67430
I agree mostly that mmm are good performers, but sometimes I wonder how much of it is down to their agency allowing them more freedom? BP and RV were also very energetic in their debut stages but look dead now, probably because of the near-constant control their companies want to exert over their every move. Even Twice are going through the motions these days.
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much better, right?
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woke KWEENS doing blackface and saying the n word
these bitches are doing what US female artists did 30 years ago and stupid fans think they're groundbreaking
Finally a voice of reason thank you anon
Nobody gave a fuck when Lee Hyori, Uhm Junghwa and now Hyuna did sexy concepts on stage - the public liked it just fine because all the aforementioned women are attractive.
My problem with their "empowerment" bullshit is how they put down other concepts and ggs to do it; Hwasa constantly says she's not going to act cute on stage (indirectly shading Twice) and says she wouldn't want to be skinny anyway - the way she said it just reeks of insecurity. They're going to attract more "not like other girls" fans and only become more obnoxious in the future I can tell
I think their reasoning is because they get hate from knet cumbrains for every little thing they do (looking ugly in an airport pic, not wearign a bra w/e) and hwasa has been getting hate for being 'fat' ever since debut.
They first had drag queens on stage with them in 2016 btw, back when they were doing jazzy stuff.
I don't know about the other two but Hyuna has been seen as a slut since forever for doing provocative stuff
I can understand their line of thought and why their songs, concepts and oufits took a turn, but I do find it cringy & forced and I wish they would go back to doing stuff like piano man. This shtick is getting boring.
Wheein had an mv with a lesbian storyline just a couple of months ago. I don't know why are you pretending that strongly showing support for lgbt people wouldn't ruin any idols career, especially one from a gg
I know anons are gonna call me a mmmfag but sometimes your posts read like mindless hate on stan twt
And yes cute concepts are inherently pedobaity bc uncle fans are the main audience and everyone knows it
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Speaking of Twice, it's interesting now for a top gg literally none of them would make it as a solo. The visuals like Tzuyu and Mina have zero presence and the ones who are a bit livelier like Dahyun or Chaeyoung have barely any talent. Jihyo could maybe sing OSTs, but K netz would probs say something nasty about her looks.
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Key was spotted at a gay bar.
Jokwon was spotted at a gay bar in thailand and even had pictures of him taken there. (this pic)
Also its been rumored that Key was dating that Hyeong Seop model guy.
Sehun who talked about not having attraction
to women.mentioned feeling attraction to men multiple times and has a sugar daddy (which some delusional fans will still deny but a anon posted proof in the previous threads before of his sugar daddy liking romantic posts about him)
Funny how sehun,key and jokwon are the only three obviously gay men in kpop yet homophic fans keep on denying that.
Kpop fans like pretending straight kpop men are gay for their ship yet we have actual gay men like sehun,key and jokwon yet fans keep on denying it.
name 1 group with a pure cute concept that isnt pedobaity. I say pure cause cute ft weird/creepy concepts like RVs are enough to scare away the pedos
Kpop critical #43 and ggfags still havent learnt that the garbage they consume is tailored for incel males
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I guess they tweeted that as a joke because alot of them deny it.
I guess the ones who deny it come from conservative backgrounds or are SEA so i can kind of understand why the would deny their bias being gay since they view homosexuality as a sin and as something disgusting.
lmao they don't have any genuinely attractive and talented artists/performers there so there's not much room for standards in the first place>>67489
you got anything more on him besides pure speculation?
That's a problem many gg face, and that's why so many chose to marry or do yt/streaming/insta "modelling". Jyp should have sent them on shows individually, if you look at e.g. Exo or Bts most of the members still have a niche, something they can do after disbanding, but Twice don't. >>67482
Hani is liked by guys and girls. Sana is only dumb fap material for otakus, she might be able to mc a short segment on a music show, but not something longer like awards or varieties. Her only "talent" is aegyo and that get's old quickly (and she's also already in her mid-20s…)
you do realize that half of lolcows audience are male right?
There is alot of male scrotes here pretending to be women.
Why would any females
In Korea she's 24, which obviously is mid-20s. Plus they have vastly different standards, they say Sunmi is gross for acting sexy at her "old" age, they will no longer tolerate Sana relying on aegyo for much longer. The men who want cute look at preteen izone members instead…
She has nice visuals and stage presence, that already makes her better than 2/3 of her group. Isn't that what most girls care about when it comes to female idols?
And her being popular fap material is not her fault, males fap to "classy" feminist icons like Irene too. Almost all female idols are nothing but fap materials anyway.
They don't have ANY? Your hate boner for Japan is showing.
Also, people think Ten is gay for the same reason they think Amber is a lesbian, their appearances and voices just fit into common stereotypes for gay people (sassy diva and tomboy). And it's just annoying because that in itself doesn't prove anything.
All that's true but this is different, he's actually looking super done lately. I hope it leads to milk>>67451
Whoa how do you even know any of this info? Youre an actual unicorn, lmao you couldn't pay me to even learn the names of these garbage nugus who will be done in a year.
I too don't understand how so many groups debut knowing the chances of hitting it big are like almost zero. Really makes you reconsider the whole "front for prostitution" paradigm>>67464
But as someone says at least once a week in this thread, BTS have never actually
done anything woke. So mmm can totally skate by doing what they're doing and get all the points with almost zero effort
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If they look like bored housewives then it means they've changed concepts from "pure" to "mature" (like a pink did), thus it doesnt suit what that anon said about pure = pedobait. You can tell just by their new album teasers. Meanwhile their debut/old stuff were indeed pedobait.
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Speaking of which, I've heard rumors that Twice's lineup was rigged on their survival show due to a lineup pic highlighting the final 9 members grouped together in the middle. It seems probable to me, especially in light of the Produce101/X1 rigging controversies.
Lol as if re: key and jokwon it wasn't about their mannerisms. Those stereotypes aren't baseless and it's autistic to think so>>67557
Yeah but it's more profitable to do it thru a survivor show
Yeah, I mean the word "rigged" has a kinda nasty connotation for some ppl but I do think it was pretty planned. Nayeon jihyo + jeong were shoe-ins, as they were left hanging after some other failed debut (??? someone who knows more, fill in here) then I think he knew he wanted the j line and/or tzuyu, he wanted the group to be kinda like snsd but with more broad asian country marketability. Notice no one in the group is truly fluent in english, this wasn't going to be his big "western breakthru" attempt or whatever
The whole thing with momo being brought back later, and tzuyu being a last min add-on or whatever, was all for drama & watchability of the show. You need shit like that or it's too boring to watch. i think it was all pretty planned, but that's the case with every reality talent show like these. My mom watches shit like The Voice and America's Got Talent & at least once a week I explain how I know something is staged or scripted, it's mind boggling that she doesn't catch it herself but whatever
This doesn't explain about the order groups are photographed in tho, lol some person who works in marketing or performing arts or fashion photog or something, pls chime in on my BTS question!
There's been other shows like it too like stray kids & mix nine & rap star, it's just like simon cowell & his 5836283 similar shows, it's just another way to create hype & make content for a show, which is just another way to get new fans & build hype for a new group…& around & around it goes, heh
I think Chaeyoung knows if she had just hung on a lil longer, she would have been in itzy. I bet she's pissed. I bet all of twice kinda are, tbh. I wonder what that's like to spend years desperate to debut but then you end up in a pedobait group winking & shit to a song like "knock knock" in a side ponytail. I wonder if it's worth it?
You mean artists who are attractive, can sing, dance, all in one? Then nope. At least not anymore. Why do you think they're so obsessed with kpop idols and kcelebs?>>67560
Lol it's the same boring topics over and over again I wonder how these anons don't get tired of it all. >>67531
How do fans find the time to watch all their shit though??
I think they used to…do they just not anymore bc they're too big or they just don't need it? Variety is for promo & i guess they don't need that anymore. Honestly I wonder if it's awkward backstage with other idols tho like @ mma or mama, do you think they all secretly hate bts? Haha
I think it's more weird/rude how blackpink don't do award shows or stuff like the kbs festivals. No wonder they're doing all this fashion show stuff, they literally don't do anything. Not even covers, dance practices, reality show stuff…I don't think they even lived in the bp house or whatever it was called, I think they just film there & go home to actually sleep. Same with that roommates thing bom was on.
Agree. Tbh I miss the times when you only see idols/celebs on stages or a few variety shows, when they seemed decidedly out of reach and glamorous. It adds to the excitement and mysticism. Nowadays seeing them acting ‘relatable’ at best or fucking boring and retarded at worst on lives or vlogs just makes me acutely aware of how replaceable they all are. The more they try to manufacture the “closeness” between fans and them, the more disingenuous and desperate they look. >>67501
Just because you spend time in the thread with the highest infestation of misogynistic rats doesn’t mean that that is the case tho>>67486VNfag icu
Predebut they all had orangey hair w grown out roots @ the same time? Weird…>>67569>>67566
No I know twice is the biggest gg & all that, just when you're in something like that, you lose perspective. I was bitching about my fancy "grown up" job after a year in & my dad was like "ok but just imagine if tomorrow you went back to [basic low paying college kid job i had before]" & I was like yeah I know I know. Just, when your situation changes, you can really lose that ability to see the full picture.
I can't see most of twice actually liking their concept, + they know they're 100% pedobait & have to pander to nasty uncles. Groups like Gfriend for example can avoid that kind of existential despair as they have mostly female fans & their concepts lately are mature, pretty, dark, dramatic…not pantomiming instagram actions like that awful "likey" choreo. Jeongyeon & tzuyu in particular always seem pretty checked out & I feel almost like it's a coping strategy or something
I forget where i read this but chaeyoung was shortlisted for itzy but got put into twice early instead or something. I can't imagine her NOT looking @ itzy's concept/whole vibe & seething w jealousy. Jmo.
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>SM And JYP Tried To Cast This Handsome Top Student Multiple Times But He Turned Them All Down
This dude looks ordinary at best but it's still better than whatever creepy looking shit SM or JYP would morph him into if they had the chance
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Y’all KNOW what the comments look like…
idk why people think SM is at top for recruiting "visuals" when they let people like shindong debut ( more recent examples are most of nct)
It's also creepy how adults comment on literal children's looks in a sexualised way,whenever trainees are introduced.
It's weird how they pick people from the streets, regardless of whether they can actually sing or dance.
Super junior was a reject group tho anon. They were all rejects from their acting division, comedy division, dancing division and they were supposed to be something like akb or morning musume type jpop groups where they brought new people in and kicked the old ones out every couple of years so they can get rid of trainees faster. That's why there are plenty of fugs in super junior. But people got too attached to the first people that they just stuck around forever and didnt bother with graduating.
Shindong was originally in SM training as a comedic actor, so letting in big fatso for that purpose makes sense because korea loves a good fat joke.
nta but i checked and it's been deleted so ig the ratmy hate and retardation got too much for op.
whenever someone disses bts this is to be expected tbh, ratmys are demented
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his smile and optimism: gone
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[Talking about which EXO member they wouldn't date if they were a girl] Chen: "This is not disliking Sehun. It is when we are the opposite sex. Because it's opposite gender so my 2nd is Sehun." Then he starts laughing and Ryeowook says "Okay because of privacy we'll skip the reason".
EXO members basically outed Sehun years ago.
please hop over to general for fangirling. this is the critical thread. >>67115>you are just nitpicking
yes that"s what the thread is therefore! posts such as this one:>>67111>commenting on tired looks while simultaneously spotting strategic positioning of members due to proportions.
are the creme de la creme!!
Again, a general thread exists guys, thats where you can fangirl without interruption and you can post jimincel pics non stop in the idol spam thread!
with regards to jimincel, i was refering to that ratmys post: >>67604
which was fangirling. my bad, i should have been more precise.
otherwise yes, new bad contacts/nitpicking looks go ahead and post.
well, how else is he gonna get them replaced if he doesnt tell his fans who will diligently buy him multipacks.
and yes, even when idols complain about not getting paid much, people seem to forget all the stuff that fans buy them, appliances, clothes, jewelry, furniture and a lot more. its nuts. no wonder so many say their fans are their life and mean everything to them.
>>67617>teehee he's so clumsy
It's funny how the vast majority of kpoppies are diehard sjws, yet when it comes to their oppars being wealthy and priviledged af is a-okay. How is anybody "deserving" of enough money to buy absolute useless bullshit x 34+ times?>>67619>>67620
Okay we get it, ratmys.
i know they are arrogant cunts or at least project that image, not accepting fan gifts was one of the best things they've done and i think other groups should do the same. how could anyone feel good about being relatively well off yet accepting expensive gifts from deluded fan girls.>>67619
but yeah i don't know why him or anyone would buy air pods instead of headphones you can actually hear out of
>>67623>not accepting fan gifts was one of the best things they've done and i think other groups should do the same.
You're clearly one of those ratmys who think your boys invented kpop…
No longer accepting gifts after reaching a certain level of popularity is the norm. Even newbies like Itzy or unpopular groups like Nct do that.
I love how my previous hypotheses of secret fans pretending to be haters stands the test of time.
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This was nct literally a week ago but it might have been a one-off.
I think Blackpink is like the only big group that accepts gifts from fansites on birthdays and anniversaries.
https://www.allkpop.com/forum/threads/idols-who-stopped-accepting-gifts-from-fans.326255/>SHINee, VIXX, GOT7, TWICE, DAY6, Stray Kids, ITZY, EXO Lay, D.O, Xiumin, Chen, Sehun, IU, BTS, NCT, AOA>[+392, -40] So what are the rest of EXO members doing?? So some members are receiving and some other members are not receiving…??
Sehun definitely also still receives stuff inofficially.>[+71, -4] TXT doesn’t receive gifts too
They don't need to, BTS pays for their shit.
Meanwhile Blackpink can't even sell 2k tickets, they need some extra income lol
On the other hand, you can't fault them. If people are dumb enough to shill thousands, let them. In most cases it's just some middle aged chinese women with way too much money.
>>67635>middle ages women paying for their sweeties
well, apparently the chinese exo line has way younger than middle aged fans (girls obviously)from rich families that pay them to meet for like coffee dates and talk.
im sure plenty other idols have similar incomes
he is a terrible rapper. what the heck is he even doing? quickly talking isnt rapping.
off to general with you minhofag
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Holly shit, something really morbid is going on with Dia
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Obviously something is going on with her. I hope her shit company at least sent someone to check up on her. I find it concerning that she said she took medicine….
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jfc he's so weird looking(your entire post history is just pictures of jimin. please move to the spam thread already.)
she has such a low esteem… she should take a hiatus or something. the werther affect could really take its course>>67647
technically it's just the group name but backwards but it's still unfortunate lmao
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imagine being proud of this
nta but >Kek reminds me of Jonghyun's SNL skit
they literally said it's a skit and then quoted the article about BTS they linked. Why is everyone in this thread so retarded
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Saw that the wonho come back tag was trending again and decided to check why. Man do they still think he didnt do anything wrong? Also not shocked they posted a shirtless photo to go with it, considering his body is all his fans like him for
Not creepy comments at all:
"I am jealous of that bean sprout, it even gets to take a tour inside Suzy's ears"
"It's my wish to have a fight with your hair strands…I think even your dandruff would be pretty" https://www.allkpop.com/article/2019/12/suzy-replies-to-a-bundle-of-hilarious-fan-comments-on-instagram
>>67724>How could anybody unironically listen to that???
this thread apparently lmfao>"but cute concepts have soooo muuuuch varietyyy"
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This thread is becoming a parody of itself
Serious question, why do kpop fans spam pics of their fave in random threads here & all over the internet. Doesn't that belong in your diary? If anything you're turning people off, not recruiting new "stans" What are you trying to accomplish?
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lisa has some SERIOUS negative ass..
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A certain autist had a fit on stage and ratmys think it’s cute… okayhttps://twitter.com/taesmug/status/1206246083313033216
why would a femcel stan women who want male validation? at least make your argument coherent. by your logic there is also an influx of blackpinkfags and you're one of them. >>67740
he's a spoiled rich man with anger issues… and they think it's cute
"Cute" offers variety & "girl crush" doesn't? At this point y'all are literally just making shit up just to have something to say. I can't imagine why as there's no up/downvotes here, no rep tracker, no features to unlock. Contribute to the discussion or stfu.
Ultimately all these "concept" titles are too broad, it's annoying that there are literally only three categories, cute or girl crush or sexy. No group is all one or the other. Early gfriend to me was "innocent" not cute, Gee was part sexy part cute, itzy is kind of a punchy teen girl power thing w/ innocent themes (tho i can't wait to see how daddy jyp gradually tips them into Sexy over time, ugh)
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On the topic of Jimincel there is a twitter account called paldingK which is exposing his bad singing and behavior and hisfans are going nuts in the comments with rage and some are having breakdowns.https://twitter.com/PaldingK
Also to explain some things. I am NOT and WILL never be a Ratmy. I am a troll and i am going to admit that and have trolled here but i cannot Btshit.
Me being a troll has nothing to do with being a ratmy and id wish the farmhands stopped labeling every troll a ratmy thanks.(ban evading ratmy)
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Looks like jimin was at the same tattooist…..
They tried in the beginning. That's why they've been lurking and started posting 24/7 about BTS under the cover of "hate"
It's why I was right and the farmhands have caught onto it as well.
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jimin actually got his tattoo way before jungkook got his sleeve. that selfie with the tattoo artist is like over a year old at this point, i remember cause armys were bending over backwards to say it wasnt jimin but a lookalike in the pic kek
pic related - jimins tattoo
Uhh airpods aren't useless bullshit, they're actually pretty useful? The issue is the humblebrag & fans find this endearing. If it were something more normal like losing keys or cracking phone screens, it might be relatable…so it's embarrassing that he doesn't see how bad it looks. Also looks like he's angling to have fans send him new ones which is fucked up.
I searched & someone on twitter compares this to them ordering 20 lobsters in a restaurant, wow that's embarrassing too
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#blinksdemandforblackpink is trending on twitter… how embarrassing… they spent their money putting up an ad begging for bp content
anon he’s just dumb and clumsy
“Ugly inside and out” makes it seem like he killed someone
Apparently the ad was right in front of YG hq, this is actually pretty funny
Tbh they just need to grow a pair and start writing their own music like g-idle did when their shit kept getting delayed. Unless yg really is some evil mastermind mistreating them and stubbing their creative freedom
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Body standards change over time. The 90s were all about the high fashion waif kate moss model look, dark circles, no body fat, "heroin chic"
Right now thick butts/thighs are having their moment, but it'll all cycle back around eventually
This is the era of the baddie which means you can have fat & curves but only if they're in the right places…to the point shapeless bodies like jennie's need "help" just to pose in some normal high-waisted skinny pants>>67770
Yes, & airpods are expensive enough that most ppl would handle them carefully & be very "aware" of them always, like you would w/ your wallet .. if you're rich enough to replace them 30+ times it's tacky to announce that publicly to all the broke teens who made you
Almost every YG group has a member who writes/produces their own stuff - G-Dragon, BI, CL, the brother of AKMU, Song Mino. It's the only way they can get any material released at all
Blinks just don't want to admit that their unnies don't care about music altogether, choosing to use evil YG as a scapegoat who's preventing the girls from writing music instead
Dumb take. Jungkook is not talented in producing music at all. Suga, RM etc produce some bts songs and get paid more for them. Why should Jungkook make more again? Because he is GoLdEn MaKnAe who excels in playing vidya games, dancing, being an eboy etc? Should your co-worker who is a better painter get paid more at an unrelated job?
If anything Jin is more talented in cooking, not getting ugly tats and driving cars kek
well, they do make different amounts of money. its not equal.
however, the difference isnt based on 'talent' necessarily because thats almost impossible to objectively quantify, but to use your example of bts - the rappers generally get paid more because they contribute more to songwriting, production and have more solo projects than others and this is also reflected in their individual net worths. this would presumably put jungkook ahead of jin as well as hes written and produced several songs to my knowledge.
i actually think this is good for groups that market themselves as 'self-produced' because it provides incentive for otherwise less involved group members to actually do shit rather than just skate by while putting in less effort
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YGs response to the truck ad
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Oh I don't disagree. I'm telling that anon it's not a cope to reject the baddie body shape as the desired norm. They aren't obligated to change their preferences just bc "thicc" is the current trend in the west>>67788
Fashion, celebs, social media "influencers" & advertising trends are all reflections of each other. If we'd had IG in the 90s, the skinny model look would have reigned supreme. The Kardashians & "thicc" culture wasn't trending yet. Remember Britney Spears dieting & working out like crazy to keep everything completely tight/flat, fighting her natural body which leans thicker bc long torso, short legs, thick thighs. Today we have Lady Gaga & Taylor Swift on stage w/ a lil extra pudge & no one gives a shit. The times they are a-changin' lol kpop reflects this too, they're always just a couple yrs behind the west. It's been pointed out here before how SNSD's proportions & leg lengths in those jewel pants in "Gee" are very different from Twice or Lovelyz' bodies today.
Also it's never not funny to post pics exposing kpop padding, here's my personal fave
Girls are normally expected to be cute and demure, and so that's what we see in most girl group songs, because that's what's popular and socially acceptable with the general public (esp their target audience, men). Girl crush is a clear difference from that which is meant to appeal to their female fans instead. Girls like girl crush concepts because it's something that they aspire to be like, and something that makes them feel empowered.
Boys already tend to do cool concepts due to gender roles (men having to be cool and tough, while women have to be soft and cute), so whatever a "boy crush" concept would be would probably not be too out of the ordinary. Also once again, due to gender roles, there aren't too many (open) male fans of boy groups due to the fear of being seen as gay for liking them or wanting to be like them. The primary audience for boy groups has always been young women.
Bless you for sharing this hahahahttps://twitter.com/PaldingK/status/1188639812623970305?s=19
I replayed this one too many times
thanks for detailed explanations anonz
the only group it seems to be socially acceptable for guys to like is big bang kek>>67810
why does jimincel sound prepubescent here
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I know fanservice has always been there in kpop but imagine a 28 yo dude doing this. This is not even funny anymore, it's just stupid.
Wtf is boy crush? boy shit is the default in that they can be thugs oe gay butterflies and girls will still cream their crusty pants. Men don't give a shit about boy groups. And those that do call it gaypop.
I swear everyone here is 12
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Imagine being a woman aged 45-55 and still supporting Seungri and being a bigbang stan.
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can’t wait for ratmys and similarly minded to try to police red velvet and their fans about using “ableist” slurs for song titles
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viv must be loaded
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I am not an nctfag but I was curious as to what constitutes them as feminist in the eyes of nct fans so I searched google and twitter and came upon these tweets. I guess..Them acknowledging the fact that women can do things = super woke feminist kingz.
oh lord. the insecurity is over 9000. Didnt their parents teach them self respect?
I remember coming across some super cringy stuff idols said to fans such as 'if you like someone else i would be jealous' and MonstaX apparently said something along the lines of wanting to be their fans bfs.
no wonder these girls are being pandered to so much if they re that gullible and malleable.
that psychotic laugh at the end gave me shivers.>>67854
cant believe they cared more for her phone case than those cigarettes. they could have started a whole she is dating ….cause he smokes marlboro thing.
With that botched is not like she could pick much better tbh>>67792
You must be one of those retarded fags who make 'jk humiliating his hyungs for 6 hours straight' compilation on youtube huh. U rly think this simple minded fella is something
sorry misspelled vivi>>67847
my thoughts exactly
how could she buy herself a career looking like that
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Stop fcking lies you little b1tch your clapped staff when straight to her hair! We have a whole a$$ video and you b1tch can still lying??? You umpa lumpa flopping a$$ father fucker go cut your d1ck you trash men (comment in English)**
SM has also been referred to as whorehouse cause sm idols screw each other so much. Do yeah, im not doubting her dating scandal, also cause its her.
there have also been reports on how they deliberately try to fake relationships, not sure how reliable that info was, but it was they like same with same, so youngest with youngest etc.
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Homegirls looking bit different
narsha and miryo look like completely different people, but gain and jea are still pretty similar i guess
jea just looks a lot younger now than she did so whatever she had done worked in her favor
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his facial hair is so gross, why is each strand so thick?
yay to no whitewashing
on another note, are there any idols that have had their beards lasered? must be annoying shaving every day and with all those clinics with lasers around…..
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Maybe Bts, since they're supposed to look like uwu boys forever? lol Other than that many idols have been caught with a bit of a stubble on their off-days.
That Crayon Pop girl did a video about body hair and surprisingly lasering doesn't seem to be that popular with idols. I guess it's the same for men?
Ironic that shaving off your jaw is no biggie but permanently getting rid of your facial hair is too much. Maybe they hope they can go into acting, and some older actors do have beards, so they think they might need them too in the future?
You're hopelessly delusional if you think idols earning 100k to 1 million a year are slaves who are "going to off themselves". Seriously even the 15 year old idols earn more than Master degree holders once their trainee debt is paid off. Idols are comparable to footballers and sports stars, short term career, restricted diets/lifestyles during their career, few options after they soft "retire" in their 30s but many of them will have saved up a few hundred thousand or more by then.
Sehun and Chanyeol bought buildings at USD$3 million each even though EXO has so many members and aren't BTS successful. Even if the averagely popular 20-something idol saved up 10% of that, it's still far more than most office workers and last time I checked low wage service workers aren't killing themselves en masse. South Korea is hell for migrant workers and they aren't killing themselves so why would idols? Because they shave their beards and legs and get Botox? Lmao that's all celebrities, even Western actors who gain or lose weight and change their appearance drastically for roles. Idols are like musical/stage actors playing a role too, they have to keep to concepts and between getting hair and makeup done and reciting or singing their lines I think most of them are pretty satisfied with their job (compared to menial labor) to not think it's slavery.
Calling idols repressed slaves is an insult to actual slaves like construction workers or maids in the Middle East. Are musical or stage actors slaves if they shave for a role and wear ridiculous wigs and makeup?
You sound like those crazy radfems who have a crying fit over manspreading or something.
Most of the suicides (Jonghyun, Sulli, Hara) didnt happen because idols were too repressed to appeal to 13 year olds. Jonghyun wrote sensual songs (see Suit Up) and Hara and Sulli often dressed however they liked. I really dont know why idols shaving off facial hair is a big issue, most ordinary men in Asia are clean shaven not because they wanna appeal to 13 year olds, but because Asian men cant grow full beards and just sparse goatees which look ugly as hell like Gdragon.
>I never said I want anyone to die and I seriously don't.
does not track with this
>I can't wait until this entire piece of shit slave labor industry implodes because the suicides will go completely out of control.
just admit you said something dumb, offensive to actual victims
of slavery, and downright malicious and lets move on
You do realize that this only applies to idols signed on sm,jyp and yg…right?
Some idols from other companies do make it but its a very small percentage.
Alot of idols from smaller companies if they DONT become famous they go through hell, dont have enough money to buy food,debts that they will never be able to pay back, have to resort to doing illegal things to survive etc.
80% of kpop groups are in debt,Nugu,one hit wonders and do prostitution if theyre female.
So just because you only watch the same three popular rich kpop groups does not apply to all kpop groups.
Nobody says idols are all multi millionaires. Some get very famous and successful like Hara, Im Siwan, Park Hyungsik or Hyuna even if they are from a smaller agency. You can see BAP Bang Yongguk, Mamamoo Solar or Vixx Ken and their apartments on Youtube, they don't own a building like EXO but they are alright doing solos or musical acting. They don't look depressed, just normal people living their lives doing what they love?
There are tons of models, stage actors, musical actors and drama actors who are way less popular than idols but earn a decent living doing what they like too. Stop thinking the industry will crash and cause mass suicides, you are mentally ill.
I have tons more sympathy for child worker slaves in Bangladesh or smartphone factory workers in China (see Foxconn suicides), thats the reality of actual low paid work in Asia. Idols are like the 1% because they are celebs with fanclubs, even if you think it's a stressful job where they have to put on an act 24/7, it's not slavery?! I worked as a makeup counter salesperson and air stewardess and you basically fakesmile all day with a chirpy voice and if your attire, nails or hair color isn't right you are penalised. Is that slavery?
You just come across as incredibly sheltered.
I literally said that there are some idols from smaller companies who make it but NOT ALL of them do.
I shouldnt have to explain myself a thousand of times to retarded dyslexia anons.https://www.kpopmap.com/why-most-kpop-idols-never-make-any-money-from-their-career/
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Not crazy about Seulgi’s feet. Don’t understand the hype.
Lots of small company idols end up doing modelling, acting, stage work or dance/vocal coaching to get by. That's a reality, not everyone can get famous. So? In Korea a lot of idols who can afford the training to pass auditions already come from well to do backgrounds, FYI. Very few come from poverty backgrounds even if their parents are divorced. My point is, you are making a huge deal out of idols having to shave, being stressed, having to pander to tweens, etc when most working people are stressed, even doctors, lawyers, pilots etc. How can you expect an entertainment industry role to be unstressful yet pay big bucks? Lots of idols/actors take a risk to join showbiz and they sometimes fail because they are unpopular, thats part of the gig. In Hollywood Aladdin's Arab lead actor couldnt find work for months while DiCaprio gets big roles for being a popular white actor, do Hollywood actors complain that they have to be waiters or do odd jobs to get by? That's a rite of passage if you choose acting as a job, like idols. Fame isn't guaranteed, they can pick a stable office job instead if they want.
When they earn 100k the company deducts the fees for venue rental, stylists salary, promos, stage clothes and props etc etc too, same as any album produced. I believe G.O. only earned 4k because his group Mblaq didn't get popular, until now nobody cares that Dara's brother Thunder was in it. If a group is unpopular how will they earn loads? Showbiz isn't an industry where hard work equals wealth.
You can be super untalented but good-looking like Sehun or Yoona and hit it big. You can be extremely talented and average looking like G.O. and stay anonymous. That's showbiz, no matter how hard you work you may never get popular like Nine Muses.
>>67938>>Imagine getting $4.000 salary a year, when you work your ass off.
Anon is it so hard to understand that idols are not salaried workers and the company doesn't subside them if their albums flop because their other employees (stylists, managers, makeup artists) need to eat too?
If you sell 1 million albums you get rich like EXO and if you sell 20k albums you prob can't cover your expenses and take home only 4K? Nobody thinks all idols are as rich as EXO, if EXO sold only 20k albums like nugu groups they also will earn less. It's kinda stupid to think the entertainment industry must make sure all idols are rich and successful or else the industry is evil and exploitative, nobody is forcing idols to enter showbiz and hire stylists, music producers etc to help them release music. If a photographer or artist tries to sell his work and nobody will pay more than $50 so he earns only $1000 annually, is he being exploited by the art industry? Lmao. He can switch to other stable jobs that pay better for the time expended because hard work doesn't equal wealth in showbiz or art.
Wake up and stop crying about how the entire SK showbiz is exploitative, maybe it is to young kids who join early but this is a worldwide issue.
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If anyone needs further proof of why flowerboy styling is cursed, see how it ruins a manly(ish) idol.
>>67944>never get popular like nine muses
isnt that one chick an announcer? dont those get like 6 figure salaries?>work hard(er)
yeah i never understood how this a thing to say to people.
i understand the sentiment but no one got to the top because of iq and/or hard work. there was always a lot of luck/coincidence involved.
>>67859>how could she buy herself a career looking like that>career
is being the token c*
k in the most nugu group with probably the biggest debut debt known to kpop considered being successful nowadays?
They call a guy 'fat' who supposedly weighs 60kg (and also doesn't look any heavier)…
And fangirls really think oppar isn't disgusted by their appearance.
I bet idols egg each other on, trying to get others to be even more ana, botched and mentally fucked, because in the end even members of the same group are only rivals.
wasnt it the exo line where someone said they were proud to be the skinniest cause thats how they are above others and will stand out?>egging each other on and disgusted by non ana appearance
seeing as some egg each other on who sleeps with the most/most beautiful groupies groupies im sure they avoid anything that isnt ana or a total stunner.
i would be surprised if they actually try to get someone to be botched since the group needs to carry that.
>fame attracts fame
my favourite part is when fans say 'oh, they have it so hard, we should be considerate', they imply their famous favourite. the one that is very well off anyway instead of giving a damn about the rather unknown ones. the fans dont seem to realize the irony.
I was a big fan of 2NE1 when they were still together, and this shows how even the girl groups that don't rely on sex appeal end up washed up. Arguably, Bom might be in a very different place if YG had competent vocal coaches and stopped her from doing surgeries after 2009. On the other hand, Dara literally has nothing else to do. I've seen some videos of her "training" at YG over the past few years…but for what? She can't sing, can't act, and apparently she's not any good at variety according to K-netz. She still looks great (age wise) imo so modeling could work, then again she's over 30 I think, so it's not long until she's cast out of the industry due to age.>>67957
A number of trainees and idols are forbidden to get other jobs though.
some of the girls from t-ara, who had it used against them later on during their bullying scandal
jiyeon, eunjung and hyomin specifically
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some of the guys in exo smoke
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this is nitpicky as hell but people who deck their babies out in brand name clothes and stuff are annoying af
ive never had anything against her or anything but having kids sometimes brings out the worst traits in peoplehttps://www.allkpop.com/article/2019/12/former-after-school-member-jung-ah-reveals-picture-of-her-newborn-son-sporting-louis-vuitton
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to piggyback on that post, idols are notorious for sharing photos of themselves at GRADUATION(which more often than not, happens after they debut and are already famous) or in performing arts school or even college, and passing it off as ~school photos~
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almost every single staged school photo you see is post debut, thus probably post plastic surgery
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now school photos where the idol is standing outside and you can see trees or whatever in the background, are typically actually pre debut
studio style photos are usually for high school/college students
just an interesting tidbit and a way to know the difference
That is the reality of nugu actors, actresses, models, singers, etc etc in ALL COUNTRIES not just Korea. In Los Angeles many struggling actors wait tables between jobs. Some aspiring actresses end up doing R-rated roles, softcore photoshoots or hardcore porn like JAV which Japanese AKB48 idols do sadly. If you ask me Korean idols have it better than Japanese idols who get sexualised explicitly in gravure books. In my country idols/singers do a lot of social media adverts, hosting, singing at parties or corporate events, become rich man mistresses etc etc unless they are A listers.
It's stupid as fuck that anyone thinks South Korean showbiz people and idols live a gilded life. Not even all of Hollywood actors do, there are some who get exploited and molested by directors.
Idol fame is like a zero sum game in Korea, South Korean fans are loyal stans who support 1 group only so if BTS Ratmon earns 5 million a year, it means BTS is sucking up 50% boyband stans and some nugu idol in Astro or AB6ix has only 20 actual stans, no solo activities and earn 4000 bucks.
Popularity works that way in SK, idol stans are loyal from their teens to their 40s (watch Reply 1997) and once they choose a group like EXO or BTS, they will never spend money on another group's albums, concerts, merch, fan signs.So BTS being such stan attractors does affect nugu idols who debut or promote at the same time.
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Not sure if you were talking about UKISS' Eli but he kinda fits the description although the age gap isn't that huge (11 years)…
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She looks 50 wtf. Prolly lied sbout her age
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last "bon voyage" ep confirmed the arm tattoo. waiting for the HD now to see how it really looks. hopefully it's not as bad as the hand one..
"Rant about Kpop, its creepy fandoms, and/or its fucked up industry. Or just nitpick idols."> nitpick idols
if you don't like it you're free to leave butthurt-chan
the food is great though :(
Serious reply, but I'm not surprised this got made. Korean Air is SK's biggest airline. Promos like this will give them more exposure, especially to KPop fans who want to fly over and see their oppas
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Blinks making a big deal over this photo shoot even though jisoo looks like shit in it… she’s the visual wtf happened to make her look this bad
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>>68056>why not get BTS to do it
cause someone has connections, pics related
>why is the song crap
umm, did you hear that song jopping? you really gotta ask?
Nothing happened, she always looks like she's in 30s >inb4 stop age shaming my idol!!!!
It's not even age shaming at this point, it's the truth
the dude has connections. the pic is showing him even knowing rothschilds.
His connections is what got sperm the airline gig. its literally what i wrote, how do you not see it?
UKISS is still around?? I'm also shocked they're still together. I heard like 4 members left and ago married years ago >>68046
fucking dead, anon
bit of a tinfoil, but i think a lot of young teen kpop fans just don't have the maturity to get how much a person changes between the ages of 14 (when a lot of trainee photos and singing comes out) and 20. if you're so committed to your favourite group that you think you still will be in 7+ years, you might find it harder to see why someone's entire creative style and taste might change in that time without them being forced - if that's the case then they'd need to think about how in 5 years they might regret spending a lot on merch or eating half a sweet potato a day to look like their skelly queens. also see the way fans keep jokes about idols going on for years after the idol grows out of this behaviour like the "v is a random alien!" shit, kpop memes age like milk.
i don't hate every indie voice singer and i think rose just does it badly, but it's obviously her choice. if blackpink debuted in 2012 she'd be doing adventure time uke covers and posting the perks of being a wallflower quotes. her avocado and cactus stuff is just the late 2010s version of that stuff
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>name someone more talented
uh let’s see
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Doesnt have as much credits but at least he can write something that isnt hot garbage or fake deep
Also did he really pass Gdragon? Cause there was a recent show abt it and he was still behind GD
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I can’t stand stan accounts, but they really hit the nail on the head here
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Because their braindead fans will eat up anything including lies. This chart is from last year but even so ratmon would still be #2 or even lower idk
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Her mouth is fucking hideous. How any Loona fan calls her a visual is beyond me.
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They gave her ugly momo horse teeth>>68135
Hyunjin the only real visual, but she is just a Korean ver of Tzuyu
That's literally every pic of jennie too, she has exactly one facial expression & it always shows her top teeth like that
Slightly ot but related, it's pretty wild when you realize kpop's general okay-ness w/ bad teeth, visible gums, huge ears, huge lips & weak chins…yet they have no problem cutting thru the eyelids & jaws of literal children trainees
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So this white incel guy whos admitted to stalking Nayeon is claiming he "accidentally" ran into Jeongyeon and Tzuyu yesterday. Nobody believed him until pictures surface of tzuyu and Jeongyeon out together on the day in question. He has a history of making creepy fucked up posts about killing females who reject males, and calls Nayeon his wife. Now JYP released a statement about how the company is taking precautions to protect Twice. How long before another Taeyeon kidnapping style incident?
""Hello, this is JYPE. We notify that after our previous statement of warning against ongoing stalking issues, we have since requested official police protection against this issue, and as a result, the police are taking measures to patrol the vicinity of our company as well as surrounding neighborhoods in Chungdam. In addition, we are taking strict security and protection measures for our artist's group activities.
We are continuously looking over various possible methods of legal actions, and plan to proceed with the best possible means against the issue.
Previously, we also notified fans regarding the label's legal action currently taking place against individuals who posted spread malicious rumors via online communities. We once again stress that as soon as we finish assessing the severity of ongoing rumors and malicious attacks, we will be taking necessary actions including lawsuits and criminal investigations requests.
Finally, we emphasize yet again that we will not hesitate to resort to the strictest means of legal action available against all actions which damage our artists' characters, rights, and names, so that they can continue promoting under a safe environment.
We ask fans for their continued reports regarding such malicious activity, and promise to do our best as an agency for the health of our artists. Thank you.
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Damn I didn't realise how ugly it was before you mentioned it
Heejin looks reaaaally plastic, but it's true that she's the most popular
However Hyunjin was known for being a Tzuyu-Naeun lookalike even before debut
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Which reminds me, BBC’s favoritism to the same 3 members makes the group look so bad. It makes everyone look like they’re either better than the rest or a filler member.
They give their main vocalist ~2 seconds of lines in each song and members like heejin and yves, despite their expertise being more in dancing, ~14 seconds of lines. Like imagine training your ass off off to be the main vocalist and leader of the group and just getting reduced to a “filler” member who’s lines always go to someone else. I really hate BBC more than Loona; if they were run like a normal group then they would be more popular and have less rabid fans. Obvious favoritism is a pet peeve of mine and here we are.
Ps It looks like Loona is lowkey copying Izone’s vibe for their comeback. The two are already so similar…
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Her mouth looks even worse in motion, it's the mouth version of the infamous dorito chin kek
Reposted: gif too heavy
incels get off on female fear/repulsion, so its not surprising he'd practically gloat about her being scared or uncomfortable
seems like a future serial killer to me
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Late but>assholes who hide behind finger hearts.
Oh my god, that is… indeed invasive. Sheesh, they cut off that much bone?
Has any idol gotten this surgery?
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Some people get filler to fix a “gummy smile”.
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I saw a video of Loona and Vivi’s non-existent chin was bothering me. I decided to make this gif to show the difference between what she looks like now and what she’d look like with a normal jaw.
Anon but mark and taeyong write and produce the songs themselves!!
I was honestly surprised at how much different (and uglier) doyoung looks without editing. Also yuta's eyes are freaky, mark looks like a 12 yr old and an old man at the same time, and taeyong seemed really aloof and full of himself.
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kek, sorn just ended clc's non-existent career. she posted a pic where she is posing with a guy in a racist mask and then chose to blatantly ignore all criticism coming her way. she's currently trending on twitter.
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so i get that red velvet is really pushing a ~creepy midsommer cemetary doll~ aesthetic right now, but wtf is irene doing with her hands in these pics
reminds me of when lady gaga was doing her spirit cooking cosplay lmao
If Taeyong's personality is as bad as people say, then are you surprised they can't stand him? In any work environment there is always someone you don't like and all you gotta do is just smile and pretend to be nice. They don't have to be friends..
Sure, for an idol group it would be better if they were close friends.. but I don't think it's the others fault. Taeyong should work more on his personality imo
But they don't try to hide the fact that they hate him, not even on camera. The vast majority of idols aren't actually close to eachother but they literally get paid to pretend to be.
(The illusion of) good chemistry is important for boy groups these days. 127 seriously fails at that, and its yet another reason why they're shitty ineffective idols.
Kek why would jaehyun be jealous when he's way more popular than taeyong with half the push? They especially love him in sk and see him as some kind of perfect visual god. He could probably even reach cha eunwoo level if he was promoted that way.
However I did notice that yuta was giving taeyong looks
while he was talking
I guess, but I bet he knows that he has the best chance at a successful solo career when nct is finally given up on
>one of the best singers
Imma have to disagree with this tho. His singing is usually meh and at times just plain bad
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I mean at least they sound decent when singing.
But my god for Korean standards they really don't look good.
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lol oh boy
genuinely not surprised this is happening it was just a matter of time, but i am shocked it managed to be some random white guy and not one of the many asian saesang incel stalkers like oniontaker that would create such a ruckus
Yea for current kpop boy groups standards they're pretty decent at singing. Even a member like yuta who doesn't get lines is surprisingly good. Why sm made nct a rap focused group I will never understand…such a waste>>68230
Lol I remember hearing taeyong's k-fans were raging about this
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Kek i guess it doesn't bother ppl when it's jennie bc she's "hAwT" or "sUcH a kWeEn" or whatever
I don't think this is a ps thing or a deliberate pose tho, i think it's just their faces?
God I wish I could see what it’s like at cube hq right now…. sorn is trending #1 worldwide for being “racist” and unapologetic.
And clc is just giving her a look cause they all know she’s destroying their careers. I deadass can’t stop laughing this is so funny to me. They must be SO pissed
Only a koreaboo could find jaehyun attractive. His face is so shapeless and has no structure>>68250
I kinda agree with you but I also can't forget when he was on the hello counselor show and he found nothing wrong with a creepy incestuous brother. I can never look at him the same after that
CLC literally only has a semblance of a lifeline because of this SEA girl. Now they will get never get international asspats and stay touring SEA.
I wonder what the next excuse is: "She/He didn't know!!!!" #89918273
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no she just continues to wittle her nose into oblivion
This isn't just "oh kpop fans are so delulu lolz" this is actual delusional disorder/psychosis. The dude needs help & not just bc nayeon is his target, he's a danger for a lot of reasons>>68268
She needs to stop, isn't there a point of no return where your nose loses all structural integrity & caves in like michael jackson? This is… not good.
yeah he genuinely seems to think he did nothing wrong despite not picking up on the social cues the company was throwing his way the FIRST time he managed to get into their building, much less the second one when if it happened like he is saying, they straight up told him to not come back because he made the girls uncomfortable
there has to be more to the story though because random fans dont usually just have access into a building like that, much less access to actually meet an idol in a situation to make them uncomfortable
True, but then again he's a white guy so they probably thought he was important
or something. So they probably let him in kek
Yeah whiteness can get you further in countries like SK, but he also has money apparently.
He may have paid to get into a fanmeet or something? idk its not really adding up to me. Im having a hard time following his timeline of when he started trying to communicate with her and when the company starting freaking out. All of this seems to have happened over a period of 4 days or so?
I wonder about this, there seems to be a current theme of "uwu feel why is the vocal not getting love, stan talent". It seems that if they aren't THE visual / most popular they are fucked. (ie. Wendy, Rose, Jihyo, literally who vocals in other groups). The only ones that do make it are Taeyeon and IU, which is so weird because they got so much hate as well but Taeyeon got away with it for I guess being "uwu kid leader" and IU when she permanently regressed her brand to being a "100 year old child" >>68267>>68286
He's still going to take them down unless someone re uploads it somewhere else like bitchute
Seems he became obsessed super fast since october, and even has >Nayeon I really love you written in Korean in his twitter bio kek.
Hes basically a saesang but on steroids.
i hope he gets deported too and is banned from entering back into korea tbh.
Why is he even there? I watched both videos and still dont understand.
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It's bc her natural body is rounder/"fat" sry i don't have a better word .. but check her out predebut. Lots of idols have this, where they're a bobblehead bc their head originally was in proportion to their natural body (as most humans are, kek) then as idols they starve down to meet kpop body standards, but their head stays the same. I'm talking actual skull size & facial features, not necessarily facial fat, bc they get fillers to make their faces look youthful & healthy. Sunken skelly ana cheeks have to be avoided. And this is part of how they avoid ED/starvation rumors, bc a full face tricks ppl into thinking you're healthy.
Idols in this boat imo include Wendy, Rose, Soojin, SinB, Tiffany, Suga, maybe chungha, maybe Seungri, Bom & CL early days, sometimes Yerin, sometimes Sooyoung but I think her body is pretty naturally lean .. also babysoul, hyolyn & soyou @ their lowest weights
Imo tzuyu would have it if she ever forces her weight down post-twice
i remember in snsd early days of variety, sooyoung was always promoted as ~eating a lot~ and eating so much even that she gained swelling in her face, kek
i will never believe an idol that is touted as eating a lot has a normal relationship with food
its more than likely always overcompensation and manipulation so the fans think ~unnie eats so much but stays so thin~ and it becomes their "quirk" or something endearing, when in reality if an idol DOES eat a lot, they are told to lose weight always no exceptions
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This looks like copypasta lol girl couldn't even bother writing something more unique/genuine, she out right copied buzz someone's apology
lol why do they even apologize anymore
once you've crossed that line and dont have a huge fandom to back you up you're done
even some of the most popular idols who have said/done offensive stuff still get it brought up constantly by ifans
Jesus you're dense. Go white knight that boring uggo somewhere else.
>He is popular though
I love how every apology about Racism from K-idols is always 2 things: non-existent Or VERY VERY VAGUE.
She better pray she doesn't do a Tiffany and get Korea on her ass. They'll remind her who she is lol.
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The guy who wore the mask put more effort than sorn
The difference is that that as much as I hate Mamamoos battered faces, they can at least
sing (from what I can see). Sorn has nothing, like what >>68299
said. Isn't she a wealthy SEA princes or something though. She fuck off back home and not deal with the hate if she wanted to.
Remember when she put up a video crying about how unfair it was that her company did not pay her the same amount as other members? Well, looks like you fucked it up now, not only for yourself but your literally who co-workers. You just know they've always despised her and talked shit when not in the room. Just like the Alex Reid and Rania shit fiasco.
>>68303>i could have picked up any "mask" to cover my pimple but instead i chose the one with exaggerated black features, already knowing how offensive that is to black people, because i was in a hurry and wasnt paying attention
at the least, he was trying to look "hip" by picking a black mask in the first place even if it was just a black mask without the stereotypical black face styling
“As a person of color I could never be racist myself”
idk how to do the green text thing oops(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
i think clc is one of those groups that is just gonna eventually stop promoting and never officially "disband" despite 5 of the members not renewing contracts
they fucked up from the getgo by adding a bunch of new members two years after debut
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Here's a really dumb question, please don't attack me I just don't get why this keeps happening. Just…if you're not sure about something, maybe don't do it? If you're thinking of trying a hairstyle you saw on a black rapper (Chan, RM, Kai) just…dont do it quite yet? If you're thinking of an outfit, costume, mask that makes your skin darker (Sorn, jackson, mamamoo) just…wait five mins? Go find out from your mngmt, or look it up online, then get the okay, then do it?
Sry if I'm an idiot & this is too simple. It has nothing to do w/ your beliefs whatsoever, like I actually believe political correctness has gone way too far in many ways but if you're a celeb w/ a public image, even a d-list k-idol, & you don't want this kind of press, can't you just take two seconds to check first? It's not like when you walk outside in Seoul SK, dreadlocks & black face paint just come flying at your body against your will. It takes thought, planning, & gathering of supplies to change your look.
Or, do idols just not keep up w/ news of their peers? Stray Kids Chan is a bilingual songwriter & group leader, no rocket scientist but kinda smart? Or at least he keeps up w/ the news? And if he doesn't, surely SOMEONE in the JYPE building keeps up w/ the news. So how does he end up w/ dreads (or braids or w/e it was) like I just don't get how it can even get to that point.
All I'll say is this (I will not delve any further b/c it will be racebait). They really don't give a fuck. That's why they keep doing it. They've been doing it since they had television over there.
International people can hate and fuck up their expansion but as along as their home base don't give a fuck. They won't give a fuck.
Yeah i agree with this anon >>68315
. Koreans literally don't give 2 shits. Being "pc" is not really a thing in korea, and I doubt they care enough to even consider what their international fans may think. Being racist isn't frowned upon.
Some of the korean friends i had at uni were racist af, but they didn't know it lol. They thought I was soo cool and edgy JUST for being part black, and expected me to hoe out or show them how to twerk and dance because "that's what music videos show". It's a general ignorance that comes off as racist in the west, but they dgaf because it'll rarely ever affect them in korea. UNLESS you have a huge international following
Other races or ethnicities are just another style to them
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sooyoung looks sickly when she doesn't have stuff pumped into her face. i have a hard time believing she's naturally as thin as she is.
ok, then let me rephrase.
he is a very good rapper. he is good enough for western market and his style would appeal (imo, i sure plenty others as well) to the audience.
sm lucked out getting him cause this guy actually has serious rapping chops.
Just look at that trainwreck jopping. you get kais whimsical not on beat rapping, lucas what is he even doing?, taemins voice simply doesnt fit that style of music but then mark, he rocked his part.
I asked a similar q a couple of threads ago, about why tf they don't just google it and one anon reminded me that they don't have google, they have their own k search engines that are biased and lack a ton of information.
this is not an excuse imo but at least it explains some of the dumber, more avoidable incidents
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What possesses kpop fans to act like this
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Yeah i figured someone would say this as i used "google it" as a general term for "research online,” your point still stands tho…but doesn't fully explain why idols wouldn't know of each other's "appropriation" mistakes & learn from them (not bc they actually care but just bc they don't want to lose western fans or money)
Overall what everyones saying makes sense but business is business after all, and I'm assuming they like western fans & money so…idk, sure seems like a dumb business move. The lack of mindfulness, thoroughness is just lazy. Maybe western $$ isn't as important as we thought tho. Idk.>>68323
Mask that makes skin darker like in sorn's pic, Jackson's makeup etc. I know where you're going with this, but I know you know what I meant. My original post makes sense to anyone with common sense, no need to nitpick grammar & sentence structure just for woke points, no one's keeping score & this is a casual board where posts are expected to be short.
>>68333>>68331>>& other similar posts
When y'all first posted about this you said she wasn't taking any action online or irl, implying she did it on purpose or was just passively allowing the media/internet to do its thing, &/or allowing her group to die. But it doesn't seem that way, i think she was maybe frozen in fear unsure how to proceed? Idk but i don't think we really know what's going on w this.
Also I feel like fans want idols to have free reign over their social media but obviously when they're given that freedom, shit like this happens. From a purely business & PR perspective, idol posts should be managed cuz these kids really don't know how to act. How many idols need to get caught in blackface (a totally preventable act btw, just DON'T PUT ON BLACKFACE) before their friends/peers catch on?
In my area wraps like these earn the car owner money but something tells me this is just one of those rich Chinese fans advertising for free…wild>>68322>>68325
Ok that's fair. They don't care. Yet when it happens, it becomes a whole thing…they're forced to make elaborate apologies & it makes them & their groups & their companies look bad. Any company of any type would prefer to PREVENT these issues in the first place, it's time consuming & bad pr. So the whole "they just don't care" isn't really a logical reason tho i get where that's coming from.
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taehyung is so fucking annoying and has the most punchable face ever. he is clearly insecure as shit about his lack of talent and tries to copy everything rm and jungkook do (they ain’t shit either but at least they do something for bts). he is not an ~uwu aRtIsTiC~ genius in the making like armies think, he’s a grown man with the mind of a 12 year old who struggles with accepting the fact that the only redeeming quality he has is his (mediocre) looks. rn he is pretending like he’s “OH so tired of idol life and being surrounded by fans 24/7!!!” but i know he’s gonna become miserable once bts’ career ends. because delusional armies are all he has and no one in the entertainment world is going to actually take him seriously.
/rant. sorry i had to let this shit out
There's always at least one member crying, it's not a boy group w/o fEeLiNgSz
He was super checked out thru mma/mama but still no one's talking about that other than saying he's over idol life? Tbh I believe it, he's not an attention whore like most of the others. He's no writer & not a creative type but I don't think he's the most useless member since his dance & general vibe/charisma onstage are good.
Literally no one in bts has true solo potential (not even junglebook) & I think they know it. Now that i think about it I wonder if that's part of what makes their chemistry work. They're all pretty mediocre alone but as a group it works.
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His fans try to excuse his weird behavior by claiming he just grew up, but nobody acts like a full blown hyper retard at 20 and then doesn't smile even once just a couple years later. That's too much of a difference, he probably really doesn't want to do any of this anymore. I also saw multiple tweets giving "antis are going to spam on his birthday, trying to get him to kill himself!" as the reason of why he's so different/sad.
It's only a matter of time until one of them leaves. I don't think that any of them are that insecure, they probably think they're the hottest shit, above being an idol und that they will be suuuper successful when they go solo/into acting. To me only jungkook seems like he actually wants to be an idol/wants to make it in the US. The rappers just used the group to be able to put out solo albums and jin is a sad lost case.>>68342>he's not an attention whore like most of the others.
You seem to have missed his "I'm an artist"-phase and the absolutely retarded way he always dresses…>>68343>nobody stands out so the others don’t get resentful.
Anything with the youngest in it easily get's 10 times more views, there's no way that the older members aren't super jealous and bitter.
Do people really care this much about age, they're only a couple years apart anyway. None of them are super talented, imo Jimin is not better looking than Jin, so why is the difference in popularity so big? I thought maybe it's because ratmon and jin are shit dancers, but jhope is the best at dancing in bts and still nobody likes him, so that wouldn't make sense either.
Cuz those crazy female fans want to fantasize that they're their mom and their sugar mom at the same time.They want to protect them and fuck them simultaneously. They're just not right in the head.
Also, the youngest ones are always required to act vulnerable and in BTS they do look better than the older members so that helps. Those fans are just creepers. And to imagine to imagine you sign up for such a job is even more mind-boggling.
Nah they def resent each other but it's a separate thing, it doesn't bleed thru every interaction or appearance. BTS & BP are on opposite ends of the spectrum of maturity, social skills, teamwork. Most groups are somewhere in the middle, i think that's why this doesnt get discussed often. BTS as a group play nice & really sell that image of being a cohesive group. Exo, nct & other bg fans think one group was gonna get big post-1d & that it could have been any of them but it just happened to work out for bts. I dont agree with this even a little. Most of bts appeal is personality & group chemistry, you can't fully manufacture that>>68358
Haha I knew this would be hard to sell bc they're all so insufferable in so many ways. Trust me this was HARD to rank but imo in general the order of attention whoredom, most to least: jimincel, jincel, ratmon, junglebook, fiVehead, jhorse, sugar. He's not the worst but not the least, & lately his generally seeming "over it" actually made me notice him & start to like him
I actually do think jk has potential to go solo. He’s been getting a lot of attention in the west so he may only be able to work there (not Asia because I do believe that Korea thinks of bts as very bland and mediocre) if he went solo. He’s met a ton of American artists too which has helped him develop connections (and who wouldn’t want to collab with the most popular member of one of the worlds biggest groups?) and he’s an eboy which is what Western teens/young adults are thirsting for hardest right now. He’s also considered good at everything (subjectively speaking. I don’t agree) and is believed to be funny, a visual, good at rapping, singing, dancing, acting, etc. He’s also helped produce a few songs and he’s had his music/solos appear in american shows like euphoria.
As much as I hate btshit, You have to admit he could do it, even if you think he’s untalented. There’s a shit ton of untalented celebrities in America lol.
Plus he already has such a big fan base, they probably would try to prevent his career from dying out for a while… and he was also a trainee and debuted at an extremely young age. I think being an idol is all he knows how to do so he’ll def at least try going solo
>>68392>west cant tell bts apart
their ever changing hair colours are not helping >>68393
apparently he has been 'in love' with her for over three years, vid 38:20
Def jk has the most potential but I guess I'm not confident bc going solo isn't just about talent, it's that sense of having a unique artistic identity + the strength & charisma to carry a stage alone (one song in a 2-hr tour stop set or awards show doesn't count) I feel like no one in bts really has a solid identity in that way, except sug. They're def all very entertaining but mostly it's while in the context of the group. I don't watch them & think "gee there's that one standout member who's gonna be huge someday!"
Also i don't see him as a creative type with tons of ideas he's just dying to get out there? I think jk solo debut would be highly anticipated & hyped like crazy, but would end up being kinda boring, even anticlimactic…
I thought jimin for a while maybe, but his dance stage w/ Taemin made me go oof
, nope. I feel bad bc taemin just is that good, & everyone looks like garbage next to him. But isn't that the reason there aren't many soloists? The kpop factory just doesn't end up with many taemins or ailees.
let it be taemin, that would be even funnier.>>68397>taemin dance moggs, everyone else looks like garbage next to him
taeminfag outing i see.
seems like in that vote he came behind jimin ,kai and some others. just because his style appeals to you doesnt mean its the best or most liked one.
he found the right niche for him to do well as soloist. everyone has niche capabilities, finding the right one is another thing.
Omg what a train wreck that would be. Jimincel or whoever's stans would make it all about them & freak out about how tHiS mArShMaLlow aNgEL mUsT bE pRoTeCteD
(What's with kpops obsession with PROTECTION anyway? Is it a translation thing? Like whatever they mean in korean, the closest translation is the word "protect"? Bc I don't remember hearing teen fans of Justin Bieber or whoever say he need to be pRoTeCtEd but maybe I just didn't notice)>>68373
Yeah but he's been open about how that was his assigned fake persona & idk any idols who've admitted that while still in an active group. Fans were sympathetic & I think it improved his image. But even at his most annoying he doesn't come close to jimin, jin or rm whose personas are intolerable
>>68358>Jimin is not better looking than Jin
That's 100% subjective
Lol @ all the akgae ratmys in here today. All the members suck equally, not having an ace or a group carrier is probably a part of what got BTS big in the first place. They only work as a group.
>>68400>What's with kpops obsession with PROTECTION anyway?
when they do dumb stuff they are more easily forgiven, cause uwu baby didnt know any better; and it adds the personal attachment to the idol which means $$$
you'll see the 'so smol' 'pure' 'angel' etc. its all people who have swallowed the garbage thats been tailored to the audience to evoke exactly that effect. its how you can identify morons.
Nah I only know taemin from that stage + the song twice covered & i hate sm bg music. He just had a command of the stage jimin didnt have when next to him. But you have a point in that a good creative team could craft him or jk an image that lets them shine. Someone here a while back said sunmi isn't much of a singer, she just knows how to sell herself as a soloist…same idea prob.>>68402
Yep as stated by several ppl above. Twice is the same deal. It's not a bad thing, the chemistry & personalities is what fans like. They insist it's talent or looks but we know the truth, heh
The resident jkfags itt are autistic and deluded. He's got 0 chance being a soloist in the west. He can barely give an interview without having a good 5 minutes of dissociation let alone speak intelligible english. Plus he's a mediocre singer at best, he just sounds nicer in bts cause he sings with jimincel & company who sound like dying pigs. But yeah he basically sounds like a discount chris brown with that nasal and airy voice.
His best case scenario is having a solo career like Daesung who is filthy rich for doing dome tours in Japan. No need to go fucking ballistic and think he is the next bieber in the west.
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SK is so conservative that smoking is something 33 year old edgelords showoff on IG to show how non-conformist they are.
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GD and TOP lending ciggy edgelord support
He's like 5'8 and all non-stans can see that he isn't particularly talented. You're delusional.
Wtf is going on itt rn? Oops all stans defending their oppars and writing essays on why they're better than the other boys.
I’m an ex army, naturally I know shit about them. Almost all of us are ex stans. doesn’t mean I presently stan. Plus I didn’t even list off things that were that specific. I watched euphoria and heard his music in it and the rest is shit I’ve heard almost every army spout. I mean Jesus they call him the golden maknae.
I’m saying right now I’m not a jk stan or bts stan. None of you believe me though. I believe his fan base is wild enough to hype up a solo career for him. I even said I didn’t think he was talented. Y’all really put words in other people’s mouths. I didn’t even say I thought he would be successful in the west, I said I can see him going for it
Uhh a shit ton of people smoke cigs in SK, way more than in the US and they still allowed people smoking indoors up until a while ago at least japan too
It's an issue in the idol industry only bc their target audience is literally children and teens. Maybe with athletes and people who sell a healthy lifestyle it's taboo too but that's everywhere in the world.
That's the point, almost everyone smokes so why is an actor smoking #1 on Naver search with Knetz criticizing? Real Korea vs Korea's image is so different. SK is one of the countries with the highest rates of men visiting prostitutes (usually called hostesses, masseuses, room salon girls like the one Kim Gunmo is accused about abusing, or the joint in Daesung's building) especially during military service, even if it's illegal. Almost every Korean officeworker visits these joints after work to entertain clients or build rapport with bosses but on the surface Korea likes to act "clean". A lot of Korean wives turn a blind eye to what their husband does after work as long as they earn their keep. If you are a guy who visits SK for business they even offer to bring you to these joints so you can pay to fuck a Korean woman.
Anyway Ji Changwook is a friend of Jung Junyoung and frequents nightclubs like Arena so he prob does drugs too. GD and TOP def smoke weed at least and do harder drugs. Cringy AF that they think smoking is cool because it rebels against an idol image despite it being the norm in SK.
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Hangyul got a nose job and looks completely unnoticeable