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No. 423499
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>>/m/373122AYRT, I really recommend looking at traditional paintings and seeing what techniques your favourite artists use! It can be super helpful to see painting being broken down like that. I'd recommend you start off with photo studies and zoom in a lot to see all the different colours that you wouldn't notice, you can colour pick at this stage but eventually you would want to replicate those colours without needing to do so. Studying forms while doing this is also incredibly helpful especially as you progress and become less dependent on the reference photo.
Not everyone likes to do this but if you learn better by reading and researching the thing you're doing, I'd highly recommend reading books like the Art of Colour by Johannes Itten, which is a fantastic book about colour theory that you can find free pdfs online of, and looking into a favourite art movement or one that interests you and learn why the artists decided to make art in that way. You could also look at speedpaints in the digital painting styles you like and just observe and copy for a faster shortcut (which has its inherent cons)
>>423490Because infighting is annoying and even more retarded?
No. 423517
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>>423505Wow, and such great criticism was in the last thread after anons had a little tard rage. Look in prior rate threads, the criticism was harsh but you didn't see anything like the last quarter of the last thread.
No. 423526
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>getting this assblasted because you think anons are being too nice
What are you so mad for tardchan? Did anons make fun of or ignore something you posted? Cause you still haven't posted anything, I wonder why. If you're all about harsh criticism then share something.
No. 423539
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>>423531That's exactly is happening and what some bad actors have been trying to make happen for the last six or so months. Just report. Saying PYW isn't helpful either, you know they don't know shit by the way they're "critiquing" things so pay them no mind.
>>423526If that's your work then that's some lovely rendering on the arms and legs, the abs are a bit muddy and need extra defining but I'll assume it's because it's unfinished as far as I can tell, this is a overall well done study.
No. 423543
>>423520I'm the OP, and making the thread into a hugbox was not my intention at all. I just wanted to try and minimize infighting. Note that I said
>be honestbecause I believe that unnecessarily flattering someone when their work sucks
is being dishonest.
No. 423544
>>423527Her work is
not shit, c'mon. You can disagree with someone and acknowledge that their art is good. I get that it feels good to trash someone's work when you're arguing with them, but it's transparently motivated by your emotions rather than objectivity.
No. 423559
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drew what i think the average farmer looks like a while ago
No. 423603
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drew the average day itt(personalityfag derailing)
No. 423609
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>>423603drew you drawing this. note your receded hairline, your beady black eyes, your witch nose, your unappealing body, your rat tail, your huge forehead, and the poor grip on your pen as well as your nasolabial folds
(infighting) No. 423612
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>>423609drew you drawing this drawing this. your features have been abstracted as legend had it you are too hideous to capture on canvas without the artist suffering a heart attack. i drew you skinnier because i can’t draw you actual size since your size exceeds the maximum hard drive capacity of 32 tb.
(infighting) No. 423671
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>>423539>>423542Thanks snons
>>423540>butt>hip boneswell this is the reference pic. I can see I made the thigh too skinny but I don't wanna mess with this forever.
No. 423674
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>>423472tysm nona
>The fact that deep down he doesn't even enjoy it but must be hypersexual makes it even betterhnnnnnnnnnnnggggggg seriously the most perfect tragic whore I've ever come across, and I love how he's a character that could only exist in bl. he wouldn't hit as hard in any other medium.
(derailing) No. 423687
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Do you guys think my art style and aesthetic is too dated? I really love working with oil paints and fantasy themes, but I don't get a lot of engagement online.
No. 423718
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>>423612>>423609drew you two putting aside your differencies and making out passionately
(encouraging personalityfags) No. 423747
>>423720Nta but that's not pillow shading anon… and it's pretty similar to the reference she used in
>>423671. Her drawing is actually lighter and maybe lacks a bit of a gradient down his legs and arm but it's still far from pillow shading.
No. 423769
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>>423749Nope. Please anons, learn what things mean and don't blindly follow advice in this thread.
No. 423821
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>>423749>>423720Actually not wrong but it's difficult to see with the original red tones
No. 423844
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>>423843Lolcow the only place where well articulated sentences get still get misinterpreted
(bait) No. 423864
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>>423849Pillow shading is when someone only places uniform-thickness shadows next to the edge of an object (or next to the linework if there are lines), giving it the appearance of a pillow or a puffy sticker. The drawing needs middle values in many places, but it also has cast shadows. A drawing can have middle values and still be pillowshaded, and a drawing can lack them without being pillow shading. Pillow shading is a very specific thing.
I know it seems like semantics, but specificity is very important when it comes to critique, because you need to effectively communicate what the person needs to research to improve. This is also why blanket insults or blanket compliments aren't particularly useful. What is it that makes someone's drawing good, for instance? If you clarify that their strongest attribute is their ability to draw gestures, choose color compositions, etc, that tells them what they're doing right so they know to move on to honing a different skill for the time being. Same logic applies to things you think the person sucks at: pick the most pressing problems and give detailed criticism instead of just going "it's shit lel."
No. 423873
>>423821>>423836It's silly to keep discussing whether it technically fits under the words "pillow shading" or not and getting hung up over terminology. The point is that nonna has to practice her values and do some greyscale studies or grisailles.
>>423671Did you check how your study and the reference looked in greyscale before or after finishing it? Because it's more noticeable in greyscale that the original light source is a bit higher whereas in yours it looks more frontal (except for the stronger shadows on the back thigh and arm) because you didn't make the shading dark enough (eg: almost no midtones on the chest and stomach, the thigh in particular only has a small bit of shading below and above). Almost all your highlights are way too strong as well. Also, the forearm itself doesn't look bad, but it looks a bit strange for it to be so rendered compared to what's around it, and you can tell in the greyscale that the veins don't have as much contrast as you gave them because the whole forearm is leaning on darker values in the original
but if you just really like drawing arm veins that's more power to you kek, follow your passionTL;DR: you need to push the shading harder
Anatomical note: you messed up the shape of the thigh a bit and it looks too thin above the knee
No. 423880
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I drew it with one finger(/m/ rule 4)
No. 423897
>>423873Thanks anon, I didn't know to check the values like that, I wasn't finished yet anyways so I will try to fix it. And yes yes I know, the thigh!!
>>423879I try to acknowledge you bitter brainlets as little as possible, I haven't sperged about any criticism I've gotten idk what posts you think are mine. I can't imagine what a huge letdown your entire life must be to seethe in this thread constantly. I feel bad for your family and hope you find help for whatever is wrong with you.
No. 423910
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How can I (or should I) save this? I want to finish this photo study that I abandoned back in January but my skill level has jumped massively and there's so many noticable mistakes that I'd need to fix that I'm wondering if it's worth it or if I should just start again and compare. I'm hesitant on the last option because I put a stupid amount of time into this (15< hours) and I feel like it's a waste that I didn't even finish it.
>it's shit!! (in chorus)
I know it is, glad we got that out of the way. I'm going to ignore any anons that go on like that without actual criticism because you're not telling me anything new.
No. 423925
>>423914Alright, I think I will, thank you! I'll report back with the new rendition so you guys can tear me a new one (in a good way.)
>>423921On and off since early last year when I went full autistic research mode for art. I have been drawing for longer but I never really wanted to improve or study until then so I don't count it as serious study, as you put it. I posted tips earlier for study (>>423499) but yeah, observation and breaking stuff down with research were really invaluable to me.
No. 423946
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>>423910I agree that you should start fresh. Don't worry about small details, I feel like the stuff you did on the left is already too much. It takes away from the focal point which is already blending into the surroundings. I don't know if that's because of your ref but don't follow it 1:1 if you can make your painting more readable or interesting by lightening the background to make the cross stand out more.
No. 423960
>>423954KEK but I’m not using chatGPT
nonny! I’m sprinkling in some actual helpful critiques and drowning out the infights because I actually care about art. As long as we have this thread we might as well make it useful.
No. 423963
>>423946Definitely agree that this attempt is way too much dark on dark in what is supposed to be a foggy environment. Thank you for your recommendations.
>>423948Thanks! I don't really like doing that with non-anatomy studies but you did give me an idea to collage some of this into something else I'm working so thanks for that! As for reference images go, I got a lot initially from Tumblr and Pinterest and do occasionally take from there but lolcow itself is such an amazing treasure trove of interesting images. I think the reference for this came from the Religious Art/Imagery thread here on /m/ (could be wrong about thread title)
No. 423992
>>423959Nta but
>I don't care about labia, she doesn't have holesounded kinda weird. Please draw her with one next time.
No. 423993
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>>423981Apart from the too dark foliage and incorrectly drawn trees, the site of a nuclear meltdown kinda does just look like that colourwise.
No. 424012
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does anyone ever do a bunch of scribbles and then work with what your brain sees inside of them to create a little doodle? I find it can create some unusual stylizations and it's a fun way to get yourself to draw when you have no ideas or no motivation. I used to do this in school on my notebook paper and some of my most interesting looking stylizations came from interpreting scribble lines.
Today it spawned a girl in a beanie. I'd love to see what other anon's scribble-divining doodles look like.
No. 424053
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How muddy are my values and how boring are my colors? It's a study loosely based on a photo, but the source served more as an inspiration. I always feel my colors and values are off like they are boring or they don't communicate anything. Can't tell if I'm overthinking it or what exactly am I missing. When I look up other artists, the ones I really like the colors and composition have weird values. I must be missing a key to understand it.
No. 424067
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>>424053my take on pushing the values. i think it just felt like his head was being overpowered by the dark background even with his striking backlighting. idk if i can explain it well enough but just posting how i would push the values. the colors look fine, just the values not giving enough focus. i made the focus his face.
No. 424117
>>424055Thanks, anon. I think regardless of skill level anyone can see when something is 'off' with an image.
>>424067This is a major improvement, thank you so much. I'll keep in mind to focus my values around the point of interest.
>>424094I like your color suggestions, do you have a color palette in mind before the coloring or do you pick them as you go?
No. 424278
>>424117I may have some favourite colors and palette then have a rough base to see how what I think would actually work, and pick accordingly keeping in mind the palette I chose (like I don't need to shift to the green yellow hue if I'm doing a red/blue theme and need a green)
Once you have the basic values of lighting and subject in focus you shouldn't worry too much about the them, see how perfect greyscales still have muddy colors, I always use the impressionist painting red sun as an example. The value is no different than the sky but it still pops out.
Colors also affect each other if you know about the seven contrast (quantity, simultaneous etc) so you can have more fun with the vibrancy of colors without putting a 100% saturated color.
No. 424287
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Well I couldn't sleep so I just tried to do my own version since I like soft oranges and blue greens, plus a tone curve because they're your best friends.
No. 424301
>>424053NTA but
>actually decent art gets ignored >generic coomer porn gets applauded jesus fucking christ someone kill me i hate this world
No. 424316
>>424303no I’m not talking about anon’s good painting
>>424053 I’m talking about the degenerates who keep drawing disgusting bunny scrote porn and borderline loli
(infight bait) No. 424623
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Finally went back to color this wip 2 years later. What do you think nonnas
No. 424659
>>424287Thanks, I think your input made me realize my palettes tend to be analogous which probably makes them look more "boring", I should push for more complementary palettes.
>>424307KEK that's literally where I got the photo, I typed in shirtless model on pinterest and picked the first one.
No. 424710
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>>424623I like the colors you chose, but like another anon said, you need more contrast in the shadows. I'd suggest making the shadows cooler than the local color, like in picrel. Notice how the house is white, but the shadows are blue and the highlights are yellow-orange.
No. 424817
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Good Or bad first try?
No. 424844
>>424817If it's literally your first time drawing it's fine, but it's clear that you're a beginner that needs to study everything. This looks like those drawings a lot of day 1 beginners do where they try to copy random anime screenshots and they just start right into the lineart and don't even do a structural sketch.
You really should do line confidence exercises. The legs in particular are very hard to read because they're so chicken scratchy, and it feels like you don't have much control of the pressure you put on the pencil. The girl on the left looks better than the others because her lines are slightly more readable. You also don't seem to have a good sense of structure (or proportion/anatomy). Middle girl's legs and the arm pointing up are really tiny. You should do those studies where you draw people like mannequins with separate parts to figure out how the different parts attach to each other and proportions and etc.
Hopefully doesn't sound condescending to you, but there's a certain level of beginner where people really can't give much more input that "go study", and you just have to have patience and draw more until you gitgud
No. 424878
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This is my Loomis-sona. I love Andrew Loomis. Without him my art wouldn't be good. In honor of Loomis I drew an OC based on a face in his heads and hands book. Please give me the criticism that Loomis would. Give me the loomis special.
No. 425134
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I recently started binge watching south park again. I did a quick and dirty kenny sketch while i was waiting for the episode to draw, i always struggle coming up with poses so he ended up looking boring and stiff bleh.