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lol YG is so mad that they made a statement just to formally disavow her
who knows where she ever trained! who knows if she ever trained at all! who knows if she was a deep cover agent raised in the siberian wilderness just for this reason!
>>>“‘A,’ the person known as the informant, was never a trainee under YG Entertainment. Though we have made requests to media outlets to make corrections, wrong information continues to be reported. Therefore, we would like to reaffirm the fact [that ‘A’ was never a YG trainee] once more through this official statement.”
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This is for the anon from last thread, jessi’s post on tiffany’s MySpace from back in the day kek
there is SO MUCH to unpack here but i'm stuck on "i feel bad for you" …dyinggggg laughing
jessi is so problematic
but she's an excellent instigator.
if psy plays his cards right, ESPECIALLY post-YG, he could really shift the industry with the number of unabashed shit-stirrers on his team. they're all narcissists who revel in attention for bucking korean cultural norms and calling people out.
k-pop is so fucking boring these days and deserves a swift kick in the ass.
Yeri is smart for networking. She managed to befriend almost every relevant idol in SM and outside of SM, and has actor friends and everything.
She knows they'll come in handy cause she can't rely on anything else really.
Haha, I am aware they were not normal compared to any standards… but I am curious since they seems to have a full roster of bighit producers with their personal infos and past affiliations in the industry.
I was just curious if this happens to every company or its just a ratmy thing…
By the way, samefag here anon
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i didnt even recognize chungha for a second….her face looks so pumped like its gonna explode
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Now she deadass looks like the fish from Shark Tale…
Anon is referring to P-Nation, Psy’s new agency featuring Jessi, Hyuna, and E’Dawn. Despite their… flaws… they’re the most popular idol acts actively breaking “rules” and they’re all under his power and influence.
PSY isn’t an angel but it seems like he sold out to the right people in positions of power and has enough clout to survive any scandals by association himself. After Gangnam Style, he performed for every head of state and wealthy business man that would have him, which has ensured his financial independence and significant status. I bet he pocketed more from those gigs than the sum of his earnings from the song alone.
With YG effectively gone, and no other “rebellious “ idol brand on the market ready to compete, Psy could have a whole stable of successful alternatives to every exactly the same idol product, and ones with more “Western” attitudes with a better chance of crossing over. Ifans think Hyuna and EDawn are super cute in love, and that Jessi is outspoken and courageous instead of tacky.
If he promotes them right and fans vote with their wallets, they could pull the same gutpunch that BTS ifans pulled, with a better chance of being taken seriously by western media—there hasn’t been a hit like GS in years, and his reputation precedes him.
anon you're responding to; thanks for some more info.
while i definitely don't see any three of them making waves in the music industry anymore due to their washed up-ness and hard-to-sell appearances and attitude, i can see him squeezing out any profit left that they can make from their own fans and then adding on more artists to his roster that could potentially do what you are thinking. his agency is fairly young so we will have to see how it works out. old gen artists like bi rain and a few others have made their own agencies and had artists under it which completely flopped, but if psy is as powerful and has as much money as you say he does, i can see him turning a profit with his.
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i know?? out of everything this confuses me the most?? they screech about how BTS makes all of their own music and how they're all the best socially educated producing artists out there yet also worship and love their producers?? who have the majority of the writing and producing credits? they are so disconnected just like their brain-dead, flat-headed oppars.
Jessi does really well on mainstream variety, even if it’s just to shock and annoy people by being a Jersey girl. She’s taken relatively seriously as a rapper (comparer to like Irene, lol) and stands alone as a unique and memorable soloist, with no real competition
Hyuna has been looked at favorably in comparison to Sunmi on every dumb pann ranking I’ve seen, which amazes me considering the crazy difference between their discography and life choices, but go figure—she’s still a force to be reckoned with.
EDawn is a little more unpredictable, but I would bet money that if he crashes and burns with Hyuna and wrote himself an overly earnest breakup/heartbreak album (a la cry me a river), that shit would sell like hotcakes and obsessive fans would cream themselves trying to figure out all the hidden meanings and signals in everything from his clothes to his liner notes, watching like hawks as he awkwardly stands besides Hyuna at awards ceremonies… inevitable joint agency appearances…
I hate them too and I actually liked some of LOONA's predebut songs.
I'm mystified totally though at how they managed to occupy the same ~queer fat positive yass transgender queens~ niche as SISTAR and Mamamoo (even though there's a weird massive stan war between orbits and moomoos over who is the wokest of the woke that even involves extreme hacking like in the last thread). LOONA are all stick thin, conventionally pretty and (not just typical Korean bleached skin but) porcelain white like to a level I have not seen with any other act. I get their songs are extremely catchy and ATRL-types tend to like that but… it's just weird
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Sunmi being an attention whore again
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Netizens Bring Up Two Past Incidents Involving BLACKPINK To Criticize YG Entertainment>https://www.kpopmap.com/netizens-bring-up-two-past-incidents-involving-blackpink-to-criticize-yg-entertainment/
On a popular online community in South Korea, some netizens have been dragging even BLACKPINK down at the moment. The post states:
“Examples That Show YG Entertainment’s True Way Of Thinking & Behavior”
Of course, for BLACKPINK fans, this is unfortunate as the girl group actually has nothing to do with the current scandals surrounding YG Entertainment, but the public has been revisiting past incidents related to them that were issues during the time in South Korea.
One of them was the story of how a YG manager parked a van that was escorting BLACKPINK member Jennie to a restaurant, in a no-parking zone. When asked to park somewhere else, the manager refused and stated that he would just pay the fine for parking in a no-parking zone.
The second past issue that they brought up was when a BLACKPINK manager pushed an elderly man out of the way because he was walking towards them and the girl group on the crosswalk.
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Yesung is officially an alien now
Warning: very graphic pictures
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He could kill somebody with that chin
"Do they even need it" is the real question. Its not like idols do complex choreo that needs them to be as flexible as a gymnast or a ballerina. Flailing their arms and side stepping as well as twerking and hip-shakes are the usual stuff in their choreos. Nothig complex that even non-flexible fans can cover them in youtube. Plus you do stretches to be injury free… but from what I see, their tearing tendons and ligaments deliberately.
Honestly, I think it was just for the 'I practiced and suffered as a trainee' flare or they were just plain sadistic.
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A reminder that he used to look like this. Seriously what's so good about looking like a totally different person? It should freak anyone (with sanity) out at one point.
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Who's this fuggo from produce x 101. It's for the headline of a freaking news, they should have picked a more flattering face i swear. Anyone who picked this cursed pic should be punished.
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So this idol from some lesser known group cosplayed as a character and got some backlash because it was considered inappropriate.
She's super popular with men cause of her body so all men jumped out and started defending her and blaming the hate on ~jealous feminists~.
They called hwasa all kinds of names just cause they found her ugly but when a pretty girl does it it's welcomed.
Ok I expect that from woman-hating Korean men but the nb comment section makes me wanna drink bleach. They say shit about feminists, and they sound exactly like those male Korean commenters. Is that site infested with libfems and tra's?
So much ignorance and misinformation it hurts.
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That double standard is always strong…
Spot the difference, I see none.
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I mean…isnt this literally an outfit that other girl groups have worn for comebacks? AOA comes to mind but there are many others lol.
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Well yeah nobody has a problem when it's model-like idols walking around like that. Although I do find her outfit personally more extreme than aoa's
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Honestly I was thinking of Seolhyuns in particular, and while agree that hers is more extreme, I think the only reason that it is, is because she is obviously pushing her tits up. Seolhyun didnt use padding or anything and thats the only reason her looks any less "vulgar" in comparison. So I really just dont understand why an idol can wear an outfit in a video or a performance but isnt allowed to wear that same style of outfit at an event. Its just silly that its even a controversy to me. Its the same when people were mad at Joy or whoever for wearing a short skirt to one, when Twice was having a comeback wearing the EXACT same outfits in their performances at the time. Selective outrage is ridiculous.
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he looks like eunha from gfriend
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I think it was a cosplaying event. I'm not hating on her because of what she wears I'm just disgusted by the hypocrisy of the men and that sex-positive bs people are pushing. It's not empowering to be sexually exploited by your company to create some buzz around your group. They started out with cute concepts iirc and now they make them dress like this.
I thought the burning sun scandal would make some people a bit more reasonable and critical but it clearly did not.
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That’s Johyun from Berrygood. They were at a gaming Olympic so she decided to cosplay as that one KDA character since League of Legends is incredibly popular in Korea.
Here’s a translation of her response
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This looks horrible. Why do they bleach to this level?
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Why so aggro orbit? Her skintone looks bleached to shit even outside of fan edits
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nta but you sound underage. that gif is just as heavily edited as the pic you posted. look at how overexposed the background is lol
it's so hard to find pics of loona that aren't heavily edited. even the videos on their vlog channel are overexposed and softened
no doubt they all bleach but her neck in this photo is probably what her skin actually looks like.
>Why do the 'woke queens' want the group they stan to look like casper the fucking ghost???
fake woke self hating girls with cognitive dissonance
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10/10 will flop. Even Shannon williams (korean-british soloist) is history now.
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Why is she cross-eyed? I kinda notice that most of k-idols (especially those who had something done in their eyes) look cross eyed. Like their irises were off-centered and tends to stay in the middle. Is this a genetic kind of thing or its side effect of them trying to make their slit eyes look more round
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People are praising him in yt comments, but he seems like a careless dad to me. His actions are so fake, like he only does it because there are cameras around. Plus it's just evil to milk your own kid so you can restore your reputation, especially after he stated his discomfort about people looking up his wife's name on search engines, just a year ago. The troll should be more consistent about his decision to keep his life private.
About his looks, he reminds me of Jimin a lot. Not only they look alike, they also have the same prickish, attention-whoring attitude. To be fair, H.O.T were a group of visual holes except for Kangta.
Well, there are people in this world who could be bribed into marriage with cookies (insert sarcasm)
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Forgot to add the cookie pic
sounds like a lavender marriage>>36387
he has the mannerisms of a troon
At this point I just feel sorry for these girls. Wtf is this song? I think I've heard three different songs in this…it's like a worse version of I got a boy( and I didn't know that was possible)
Is is just me or does the chorus also sound like someone's about to get sacrificed in a ritual lol
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>>36398>"Throw all your worries over the flat earth"
At least RBB was still listenable>>36403
There is this crazy theory on vc about rv being witches and that they are in a coven, the chorus kinda suits the mood lmao
this is so tragic. just finished listening to the mini album and all the songs besides this one are great and actually listenable
sm are so fucking bad at choosing title tracks it seems like sabotage at this point.
who's idea was this? why is the chorus so clunky and awful? why do their outfits look like that? why does the mv look even cheaper than normal? why does seulgi still have those awful bangs? wendy, joy, and seulgi have such great voices but not even the part at 2:18 at 2:40 could save this song.
can't even tell if this will be a success or not because the korean gp has such shit taste.
parade or sunny side up would have been better title track choices but sm just has to to choose the most obnoxious hard to listen song everytime
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Why are Exo fans dumb enough to suck it up to Lay? They're so delusional, none of the chinese members ever cared about Exo and their fans, and he does not give a fuck about you either. There can't be one Exo post or video without retards screeching about "OT8 cockroaches!1!1". Korean fans already gave up on him long ago - only ifans still insist that he's secretly the bestest friends with the other members. They'd be dumb af if they wouldn't hate him, they trained and worked all those years only for the chinese members to bail - or just never participate in anything like Lay does.
Why do they like him so much? His voice is annoying and his face looks absolutely punchable too imo.
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lmao nickelodeon what are you doing
people shipping lisa and jungkook is cringy as fuck but stan twitter wouldn't care if it was jenlisa and jikook or something. they're all delulu.
He already stopped with his activites in Korea before the ban.>>36416>i like him, d.o and xiumin because they don't come off as asshole-y as the others to me.
Lay acts as if he's the 2nd Michael Jackson in China… I don't think anybody could dislike Xiumin (probably the only idol who's never done anything shady), but D.O. is annoying too. He could at least try a Little bit to hide that he hates being an idol so much. If he was a women, everbody would (rightfully) call him an ungrateful bitch. Nobody forced him to become and idol and he also wouldn't have made it otherwise.>>36419
What are they doing? Seems like suddenly Americans are pandering to Kpop so hard, without even having any basic knowledge about the industry. This will turn into a shitfest. Lisa's SEA orbiters vs Jungkook's horde of fangirls. And Koreans will hate ifans even more for this.
This is so stupid, I can´t… Just another attempt on bringing in the kpop-dollars, but so embarassing at the same time.
But tbh I would live for a little bitchfight between Army and Blinks.
Since she's obviously siding with her new male fans and enjoying the attention she gets from them…damn her legs are shorthttps://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2019/06/jo-hyun-expresses-her-feelings-on-her.html>[+1,997, -241] I thought you fatties thought Solar wearing a bra and Whasa showing her buttcheeks was girl crush>[+1,492, -227] Just fatties being fatties ㅎㅎㅎ>[+937, -126] I seriously want to take a crack at feminists and the fatties at female community cafes who are always finding issues with stuff like this…
I find Whasa buttugly, but at least her sole existence manages to really trigger
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I honestly wish they were actually a couple just to see fans on both sides have meltdowns. Just reading responses to this nomination is hilarious. I love how they pretend this isn't all about their self-insert fantasies. "This is a disrespect to both artists" lmao
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>>36398>Reveluvs getting ready to purchase, stream, and convince themselves that this song isn't a public indecency>>36408>There is this crazy theory on vc about rv being witches and that they are in a coven
You mean like a fan theory based on music videos and 'in-universe' lore or an irl Illuminati type thing?
Lay is like an A list celebrity in China. After achieving that, he really has no reason to waste time promoting in Korea ever again.
>they trained and worked all those years only for the chinese members to bail - or just never participate in anything like Lay does
Lmfao you sound like a salty exol who holds a grudge against every member who leaves.
This mv is a mix of every motif and trope used in kpop and its disgusting. Usually I like RV's music videos because they're aesthetic and stick to one concept, but this one is all over the place. Every possible style of clothing in an unappealing blend of colors, trashy special effects, green screen, cute, "sexy", and even elegant imagery are thrown together within frames. Also those filler moments with POV roller coaster shots were so trashy. I guess that's what SM was going for though.
It's sad to see a rare group of talented singers given this mess of horrible pitchy "rapping" and vaguely melodic chants.>>36436
Lmao it's even funnier that the mv concept is "carnival." SM is clowning themselves at this point
Omg now that I think about it it would hilarious if actually two bts members were on this list instead.
I can't stand Blackpink but I find Lisa tolerable so it kinda sucks that her fans keep on embarrassing her.
i think soyul was slurred out of her mind when she took this things dick and i feel bad for her
the baby is cute but she should have aborted it
/bitter crayon pop fan sorry
Yeah I agree. Sometimes Wendy and seulgi took over the rest's part and it sounded way better. Yeri and Irene sound absolutely terrible and people know it. Joy manages to escape criticism about her voice cause it's very "unique" and people like that, oh and she's considered the cute and sexy one so that helps too.
I do think that Wendy's a good vocalist though and I like seulgi's voice too. The rest is disposable and replaceable.
This couple will just be a constant reminder how even the ugliest fucker with shitty personality can get a decent young woman (incels must hate him…disproves their arguments lol)
I'm sure soon we'll be seeing shindong with some young announcer or some shit.
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Jesus Christ, this is absolutely horrible, I can't believe it
I've always considered RV to be fairly talented. I agree that Yeri and Irene are completely disposable but I like the rest of their voices. I don't know if Joy is actually talented or not but I think her voice is distinctive, which means a lot when 95% of female kpop idols sound exactly the same.
My point was mainly that they can't rap for shit and I'm not sure why they were given this "song" when they have the potential to make nice-sounding vocal tracks (see Be Natural and Automatic)
justice for red light, aka fx's most potentially iconic comeback in their entire catalog
nah sm doesnt care about red velvet enough to want them to go viral
they were the replacement for fx and it shows
also, they REALLY need to fire the stylists at this point because everybody is getting tired of the weird mismatched "lets just throw some pieces of clothing together that have no rhyme or reason and bleach and fry their hair to oblivion to the point that its broken and brittle and destroyed and they have to wear shitty wigs and ratty extensions to cover up their hair loss" style because ew
they literally look homeless
i kinda like the mv but the song.. meh
there isn't a single good kpop release this year. at least last year pentagon and ikon's comebacks were good.
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They're really saints for putting up with that stylist. They need to learn a thing or two from Jennie.
cant believe people get paid to do this shit
im a better stylist just dressing up fucking stardolls online than these idiots seem to be kek
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Sorry for the shitty quality. Here's a good one.
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lol joys hair
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Rv's new song is so fucking bad especially the chorus wtf, it doesn't even match with the song. They also have a flat Earth lyric in the song too.. Korean netizens were right, bad boy was RV's last good song. SM is just milking the last drops before they throw them in the bin like FX. SM is very obvious about it too, you know which artist or group is going in the bin when they keep releasing half ass shit songs + constant Japan promotion. RV's death is coming soon.
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>>36440>Lay is like an A list celebrity in China. After achieving that, he really has no reason to waste time promoting in Korea ever again.
That would be even more of a reason for them to finally give up on him.>Lmfao you sound like a salty exol who holds a grudge against every member who leaves.
Yeah anon, because criticising one idol means you must be the fan of another.
China is such a joke, over a billion people, yet it feels like they let literally anybody become famous. These girls are absolute nobodies in Korea (the girl from ioi only had half a year of "experience"), yet as soon as they go back to China, they're treated like gods.
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I've always thought she looked horrifying but she was apparently IOI's visual?
>>36475>I'm so bored of k-pop and how boring and uncreative it is that I actually think this is somehow woke or something like that
Sure, K-pop is boring nowadays, but you can't appreciate how try-hard quirky this is either. SM needs to cut this psuedo-artist passion project and put out radio friendly songs for the good of everyone involved.>maybe it could've done better in Japan.
I hope K-pop companies aren't banking on Japan to support any flop concepts that could be considered unique. Just because Kyary Pamyu Pamyu exists doesn't mean the GP will accept any quirky-cute music like the red concepts.
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They're so obsessed with features like high nose bridges, that they even like noses that would be considered too big in the west.
She has an arrow shaped (white girl) nose, which makes her look witchy
Samefag but also>Japan gives no fucks about BTS
Still to this day j-fans are some of BTSs biggest paypigs, dude.
Japan has jpop which is similar to kpop so of course they'll like it, it's somewhat ingrained in their culture but in the west people can actually avoid kpop as it's still a niche there.
There are hundreds of music genres that are more popular but these fans choose to obsess over mediocre groups. They buy expensive merch and albums online, go to overpriced concerts, go on the obligatory korea trip and so on.
In that sense, they actually are way more committed.
They stan groups no one in Korea even knows, which is exactly how bts managed to rise.
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She also has that "all feelings at once" smile
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Can we get Lay back in EXO now that Wayv is cashcowing in China?
I mean…if you're an army your standards are inherently low anyway but jungkook is one of the better looking members and his voice is ok
but jimin? An absolute mystery to me. But do notice that it's mainly younger girls who are attracted to him. Maybe the others seem too mature for them? I really have no clue.
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they aren't cashcowing yet. idol producer is tho so lay will be stuck shattering the hopes and dreams of aspiring cpop boys for a lil while.
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wtf did they do to deserve this
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V looks gay as hell in this picture.
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lgbtq+ kings kek
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What is this scene though? All hail queen irene? It's too random
YG Artists Currently Thinking About Looking For Different Agencies Shows One Possible End Game Scenario For The Agency
JUNE 20, 2019
South Korean news agency Dispatch has recently released a news report saying that some YG artists are currently thinking of leaving the agency.
The news comes amidst several scandal that YG Entertainment has recently been linked to, including former iKON member B.I’s attempted purchase of LSD, alleged embezzlement, and alleged solicitation of prostitutes for business investors.
According reports from Dispatch, an industry insider stated:
“After scandals alleging that several YG idols were involved with drugs, the public’s view on the agency has inevitably become worse. Right now is a stage where actors who must maintain their image and reputation, to seriously consider things.”
The insider has also claimed that four unnamed K-Pop stars are currently thinking of looking for a different agency. While termination of contracts for any of these stars is highly unlikely, the insider has stated that some are avoiding the subject of contract renewal.
Many South Korean netizens have expressed that their idol groups or favorite stars were better off in a different agency. And it is indeed a reasonable stance for them given the current bad publicity that YG Entertainment has been receiving, which is why fans should probably ask themselves if they are fans of the idols or YG Entertainment? We’re quite certain that it is the former, and under that assumption, they should probably then ask if YG Entertainment is the best place for their idols to be at.
In addition, a petition has also recently been made to the government by the public, demanding that YG Entertainment activities be put to a halt.
Do you think the other 4 members of BB will form a new label or give up entirely? Bc I think that’s they’re only two options.
I think Jennie’s mom definitely has some fucked deal with YG so BP won’t be able to leave at all
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I keep watching Somi's performances just to see the girl on the left. She's behind Somi most of the time so that facecam is great.
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Damn her face shape is so weird, it looks like the red queen's
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she also has an extremely long neck compared to her small head. it always looks extremely jarring to me.
This is pretty accurate
5 Times Female Idols Were Shamed For Something Male Idols Do Everydayhttps://www.koreaboo.com/lists/female-idols-shamed-male-idols-gender-double-standards/
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I swear to god, ratmys were all detectives irl, they should have been called detectives in the first place.
Lol, he called BTS "ID of South Korea" and the "top boyband group you never heard of". Ratmys got back at him by calling out his parents for being cousins
He's done a lot of racist and misogynistic jokes before tho so i'm not really sorry for him.
I know some of y'all wanna try sound edgy while hating kpop but stanning tragic white men aint it lol specially Australian ones they're high key racists. Like u're just trading for sth worse lol
Ew the concept is like Block B mashed into Orange Caramel, disgusting.
I get that SM is pushing out party songs for June like always, but ditching the cute choruses for that low creepy shit really is almost disturbing.
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Our queen… Han soo hee is back at it again…
>>"On June 20, media outlet 'Dispatch' reported in an exclusive article that former trainee Han Seo Hee was sent away to the U.S. for approximately 3 months, per YG Entertainment's coercion back in December of 2016."
So, it is revealed that Han soo hee wasn't the one who seduced T.O.P. like any defensive fangirl claims it to be…
And, YG funded her trip to America to keep her from ruining BB comeback.
More on: https://www.allkpop.com/forum/threads/hot-dispatch-unveils-text-conversations-between-han-seohee-and-top-han-was-forced-to-leave-sk.310714/
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WJSN should keep their magic girl concept, it suits them well. Idk why they keep going back to the generic girl group stuff. I didn't like their new release
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Wow ratmys are just going to start making every single spot this guy took a picture on some kind of exhibit? I remember seeing that one lamp post in london were v took a picture in and ratmys actually lined up to take photos on it.
They even put cones and marked the exact spot he stand on.
no one even knows who he is other than ratmys. why is this necessary?
they are becoming more and more insane every other day and making bts look bad. i wish someone in the media dragged bts without saying anything racist and actually making points so ratmys can't just go "racists!! we'll fire you!!". they dragged jimin's vocals in the australian show and it was hilarious. armys in the comments are saying "omg jimin will be devastated if he hears this!!" well you blew it up.
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it’s kinda sad how scared bts are to get tan
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They're so dumb, they don't even understand that some people might type properly and use quotation marks literally instead of only using them for sarcastic remarks. Nearly all comments are like that.
Also, that dude's main offense are the dozens of jokes about raping his daughter and ratmy's reaction is "how could a whitey understand? you're not allowed to have an opinion on this"…
The fact that she's a woman means nothing to them, I don't think there's a single white person who came in contact with bts who hasn't been dragged through the mud. If I was the boss of a tv or radio station I would only have black hosts interview them or black journalists write about them - otherwise you'll always be doomed.
i bet most of these people who liked that tweet and probably the op are self hating sjw white girls who think they are poc because they are 20% asian or something. what does kelly wynne being white have to do with anything?
the amazingly hilarious thing about army twitter being all "fuck white people" is that bts members themselves are obsessed with looking pale and describe their ~~ideal girls~~ as "pale skinned" lmao
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Op is black i think because she retweeted this, but who cares right. Any race can be racist.
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Left is from june 19, right june 20
>>36582> If I was the boss of a tv or radio station I would only have black hosts interview them or black journalists write about them
Yeah that doesn't work either. Or are we forgetting that one news anchor who received months of hate and racial slurs from both international fans and koreans for daring to call them…wait for it; "a boyband from Korea" and sort of being incredulous regarding Rat's undeserved UN speech.
Months of hate on all his social media, harassing his co-anchor, trying to get him fired and calling him every shitty race related insult you can imagine. The Koreans especially liked throwing those around (big surprise there).
Samefag to add:
I'm sure that the evil "white woman" Newsweek journalist was the thrilled
to be told to write about these overindulged socially maladjusted babies and their ridiculous tantrums, instead of you know actual news
going on in the world.
Also these morons are threatening to sue her and the comedian. And I'm sorry I can just see that case coming before any judge (except maybe a South Korean one because Big Shit would try to bribe them) "The big stinky white comedian called my precious uwu babies a 'gimmick for 14 year old to waste their money on'. Arrest hiiiiiim reeeee".
Obviously just speculation because I would hope that BH wouldn't be stupid enough to take such an guaranteed L.
Yeah..hence obviously speculation
But my point was these brats are frantically reporting this comedian and journalist and posting lulzy legal threats.
I'm sure that BigShit wouldn't do anything because they have no path to do anything.
Yeah and kfans will call i-ratmys names and say how crazy they are, and that they don't represent ~real armys~ . Basically, bts, kfans and bigshit don't care at all about ifans so I don't know why they get worked up like that.
Negative opinions exist, some are critical, some are racist. It's good that these racists get called out but not everyone who dislikes them is racist and you can't attack every single person who disagrees with you ffs. typical sjw mentality
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someone called him during a livestream and he talked about how sasaengs call often to see if it's him and he blocks them. that sasaeng is saying that she'll expose bighit if they don't do as she says. lmao all their sasaengs exposing bighit when
This guy's whole job and income comes from being an idol and he couldn't be arsed to have helped BB's comeback if this temptress
was in his general vicinity? Pathetic. But I'm glad our kween got a free vacation out of the ordeal.
But nothing he said about them was racist. On the TV show they were mocked for being generic frivolous and untalented drek (the show had previously mocked 1D in the same way. And then on twitter he stated an absolute truth which is that they cater to bratty teenagers-or those with the mentality of teenagers- and take their money.
BTS and their delusional fans can't handle fair criticism and scream racist. That's unfortunate because it downplays some of the actual racism they've probably faced trying to break into the western music industry.
I'm amused and bewildered by all the koreans on the nb article being like>Australians are descended from criminals, how dare they!!
Are ratmys truly so retarded that they think criminality is a genetic trait passed down for many generations, and somehow this means the current population has no credibility and no right to criticize shitty boybands? Ironic considering their own celebrities are currently being exposed as criminals on a daily basis.
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i'd rather drink bleach
The influx of websites that post every little thing BTS does is so annoying . I rather click through those clickbait slideshow articles instead. How is this even worthy of being an article is beyond me.
Slightly related but are Armys aware that these companies, websites etc are only using them to make money?
It all started with "New" with Yves, which was unusual for the time with Yves "dating" Vivi in the music video. Then it hit full steam with "Heart Attack" with LGBT people in SK playing it constantly at pride events. When the "Butterfly" MV hit with 90% "YES WOKE DIVERSITY SLAAAAY QUEEEN" with barely any Loona. They got all the insane LGBT/social justice people on board.
That's why the orbits are now insufferable.
Lol so all of the sudden they know that certain behaviors can be interpreted as racist? Because international fans often use the excuse for idols that their culture is ignorant to certain things that we consider racist/insensitive. Actually, with the rising popularity of YouTube among Koreans I see many comments on videos where they talk shit about international fans and think everything is racist, and it goes beyond kpop related videos.
Seems like they know what is acceptable and what not, after all.
They'll soon realize that not everyone tolerates that witch hunt mentality.
That's why stupid fans shouldn't shield any person, culture etc. for shitty, unacceptable behavior.
"Bad guy" lmao and all those preteens are wetting themselves over that.
I thought he's a soft baby boy who hasn't even held a girl's hand before?
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This Jap dweb looks like Vivi
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He looks like a child
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Why is Heechul so popular?
They always praise his appearance, say he's better looking than female idols or actresses, but he's actually aged a lot?
Everybody always says his singing is so underrated blah blah, when him and the rest of Super Junior are basically talentless.
And lastly, he somehow get's away with being super rude (even by western standards), e.g. always insulting others appearance, so why is he still well liked by Koreans?
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I looked for her and her eyelids actually look like when Korean idols get the double eyelid surgery… if it's shoop it's pretty crazy
she kind of looks like momoland nancy, who is half korean
but also, guess what, not all of russians are blonde with blue eyes. as other anon said, russia is in asia. a lot of them look very much eastern asian (a factor is also that there were lots of migration from china and north korea lol so who knows maybe shes another solar)
she may just look like that naturally.
but also in >>36380
she looks much whiter. she just looks like a white person with korean makeup on.. kind of how the white girls on that one show are starting to look
Maybe Jp Kpop fans will like it, but it’s pretty far removed from what the gp seem to be currently into. “Safe” soloists are what’s popular now. >>36663
Isn’t blocked from promoting in Korea anyway?
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it’s shoop. remove the flattering lighting and angles and she looks like a regular russian. she also has a noticeable bluish ring around her eyes in some photos. without the kpop styling i personally would never mistake her as hapa.
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Kek, she apparently already has a PULL thread and really shoops her pictures to look Asian. Sad.
This is how she shoops herself…
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…vs how she looks in "candids".
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apparently anyone can make a page on kpop profiles now
she looks asian to you cause she is. she's from eastern part of russia, which is in asia.
my point being: russian people tend to looks "asian" sometimes (cuz they are), google Diana Korkunova for example
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sorry samefag, she also seems to look pretty similar to how she looked as a child (look at her eyes) and very similar to her mother
aside this, i dont get it.. is she debuting as a soloist?
i think she looks very pretty, but they'll probably end up giving her some sort of botched and unnecessary surgery. either way i hope she interacts with male idols, imagine the amount of milk it'll create by triggering
the spergs on kpop twitter.
The right connections can get you almost anywhere.
Or he just has a big cock. It really is a mystery.
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Lmao when you scroll down the page, there is a quick vote whether you're interested/not. Apparently it backfired on her. I'm having a good laugh.https://kprofiles.com/kang-soyeonfacts-and-profile/
Huh, they really can. She's just another koreaboo YTer with a handful of videos. Highest viewed: 627.
I mean go do your songs and vlogs or whatever, but claiming 'debuts' is pure cringe.
Red Velvet is one of those groups that you think has trash songs until you listen to the b-sides. SM has always given them weird concepts and horrible title tracks, and I just don't get it.
Other groups have gone through weird eras but it seems like RV's weirdness never ends.
Is SM trying to sabotage them? Why not just take Sunny Side Up and make that the title track? I seriously don't understand it considering we all know that Bad Boy and Peek-a-Boo did super well and that RBB won ZERO music show awards.
Apparently SM sat on this song for 3 years…>>36618>>36621
How is it that these ~woke~ police ratmys don't even acknowledge the number of comments saying that "Australians are all descended from criminals and are scum, etc" as racist too? I read the comments from readers on NB and no one is even addressing how prejudice Koreans are to countries aside from their own, whether that be China, Japan, any SEA country, Russia, and now Australia.>>36640
I couldn't watch this without pausing several times to process the cringe. This makes me so oddly uncomfortable? I think it's because he's actually talking to the camera which makes it even more of a "self-insert" and the fact that someone made this scares me…not as much as like Columbine shooter pregnancy fanfics but still.
Also cringey because the subs don't match the Korean in the slightest.
Usually they go to them for models not idols though. I mean let's face it as much as Koreans love the look of Eastern Europeans they're too xenophobic to accept them as idols who are literally everywhere in that country.
She had to have wanted to be an idol on some level of delulu kboo.
>>36720>she's half korean
She just a straight up kind of unattractive black girl.
Gimme a break. She's a koreaboo in every other sense.>>36726
The more cringey idol wannabes posted itt the better!
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I think she's putting on an accent. It's not like that isn't common (Looking at you Miranda). But check out this ridiculous fanfiction of a profile. If nothing else that convinced me she's full of shit. I feel like black koreaboos and asian fakers rarely get called out for their clownery but they are pretty prevalent.
Oh…fuck. I didn't even think of that.
Top fucking KEK anon.
Suga's aiming to look like an ana-twink nowadays. I remember them talking about how suga wanted to be buff and actually beefed himself up but was told off by stylist because none of his clothes would fit so his sensitive ass resolved into becoming an ana-chan. He is quite sensitive about his looks afterall and even admitted to get depressed over it.
This is probably tinfoiling, but I can see that stylists are part of the reasons why idols need to maintain an unhealthy wait. They always buys one-sized fits all clothes and if there are sizes, they probably go on the smallest regardless of the body shape)
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So Winner's MINO is the first K-pop idol to walk down a runway for a Louis Vuitton show. He's honestly so below average-looking for an idol and moreso for a model. Guess nepotism always wins out.
You don't have to be beautiful or handsome to become a runway model because designers wants the attention on their clothes, not the model's face.
Lol outside korea, no one cares but koreans always had the knack on being "first". Who cares if he is the first k-idol… its just so his fans could claim he "paved the way
>>36751>You don't have to be beautiful or handsome to become a runway model because designers wants the attention on their clothes
Yeah but he doesn't make the clothes look good.>koreans always had the knack on being "first"
First of all. Huh? I'm not sure what your trying to say but I'm assuming that you mean that Koreans are obsessed with being the "first". Korean inferiority complex strikes again. They come off so fucking desperate.
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> EXO Chanyeol reported fans for trying to break into his home… and apparently, there is a Ms. KIM staying there while he is away
>Jungkook, and later Suga, expressed concern about sasaengs contacting their phone numbers
Okay… that is scary. Imagine someone trying to break into your home late at night and then someone constantly messaging you 100 messages per hour.
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There is an ongoing petition by ifans so that BI could stay in the group. First and foremost, these fuckers give no fuck about ifans. All they care about are kfans. He's already done in the korean public's eyes. What makes those dumb kboos think he can stay in a group and still can make it in korea? The public will roast him to death.
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Ironic cause the headline is him looking straight up ugly
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Yeah… he is handsome… like, after ten layers of make up and camera filter…
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Oh… so this isn't V?
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He should go back to his early looks and gain some pounds. If he's not sick then it must be the drugs.
This whole new persona is pretentious and it doesn't suit him. Is he even tall enough to be on a big runway show like that..?
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why are so many kpop fans comfortable larping like this and pretending they dated or hooked up with kpop idols? it's so far fetched, especially when they look below average. writing y/n fanfics or imagines is cringey, but at least they admit it all is a fantasy.>>36797
he is the epitome of a male ana-chan. he looks like a completely different person pre-weight loss. idk why male idols think the spooky scary skeleton ana look is suitable.
some designers use celebrities as runway models because it creates hype or they want to market themselves towards a specific group. i think his below average looks make him suitable for the runway model look, kek. his face is so bland that your eyes immediately go to the clothes.
Check her instagram, I don't think she is half korean. Also she claims to speak Korean, but there is no proof of it anywhere. Kind of funny.
She's just a koreaboo
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I remembered the fansite who posted that unshooped photo. She's called 'celestial boy' on twitter and she had been showing photos of jimin unshooped so armys actually thought she's an anti. They bashed her on twitter that resulted to her deactivating her twitter.
I don't really know if it was true but she released this photo right before she deactivated and probably used it as an ugly slap to those armys who likes to argue that "uwu oppars doesn't have pores uwu they have perfect skin and as pale as paper uwu
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What a bunch of hypocrites. You're saying your oppar is a flawless god but get mad for people not altering his face. The insecurity is pitiful.
Little off topic but this is all funny cause just a while ago I read that post on netizenbuzz about a model doing a photoshoot with black paint on and the most up voted comment was this
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They aren't detectives but most of them are sasaengs who had talents in snooping around and tracking idols anons
It is also useful in hunting down comedians who are being racist against their oppars
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I saw this and thought it was Halsey for a second
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I looked it up and it's not looking good. I think they purposely gave this shoot an ethnic vibe. I'm not black but this is inappropriate.
Koreans are saying that it's black people with inferiority complexes who are angry about this shoot, but with the same breath they are screaming at the Australian comedian for his ''racist joke''.
It's so fucking laughable.
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For reference, this is Youngjae
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This is Bang Youngguk
Stylists usually don't choose sizes. The brands will send them sample size clothing, which is really small. Happens in hollywood too.>>36806
His skin looks good in this pic tho i don't see why it would be shade
Afaik they were initially more relevant than bts and they did that whole ~social issues~ thing too…They seemed like a more talented, less obnoxious version of bts and their leader didn't come off as pretentious and unbearable as ratmon so i would've been less annoyed if they made it instead but unfortunately they missed their chance and I think they got fucked over by their company too. >>36841
This guy is also looks straight up a somewhat good-looking version of jimin.
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Do agencies give their idols drugs? I don't get how kpop idols have the energy to dance on stage when they get less than a thousand calories a day. For example Wendy is not built to be sticks and some how she can still move around. At some point didn't she say she got really sick from all the dieting? Wendy is getting thinner and thinner with every new release, she also talked about wanting to let go at 40 and to eat at her heart's content
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Makeup does wonders. This is Soyeon from Gidle
they probably do take some sort of stimulant to keep their energy up. adderall or just plain caffeine probably.
and no, most idols only crash diet and starve heavily when it's time for promos and photo shoots. they burn a lot of calories given how active idol lifestyle is with practicing, and live performances, so under 1000 calories all the time is just bullshit . they'd all be walking skellies like lizzy and rose if that were the case
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Differing opinions make the world go round and all that, but if you think this is a good choreo I think you've drank a bit too much of the kpop koolaid.
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Also this move is straight lifted from Momoland.
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> when news comes out that more YG celebrities are facing drug charges but their names have yet to be released
The shade would be the v pic on >>36776
. She is a jimin fansite so she probably threw shade on v fangirls who thinks he is a real life CGI
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I would rather someone kind of unattractive in that odd way, like Vixx' Leo
Maybe I just spend too much time thinking about what traits would be best for male modeling though….he has no nice cheekbones but his small mouth and eyes creates a cool look
How does this happen to your skin??
her and her twin are twitch thots now lol
and ellin is a correspondent youtuber influencer or whatever
soyul is married to the uggo with the baby on return of superman, and gummi is missing….wonder what shes up to
It's probably from constant foundation/makeup use.
Im not wk but Tbh his skin in the pic doesn't even look that bad it's just the low quality that makes it look worse. It actually makes him look normal
well shes also just prettier than all the others lol
i dont see how irene is more popular in korea
they have such shit boring taste
I think Irene is basically talentless but she is really pretty tbh. Especially seeing her skin in real life like with V >>36933
makes her so much less weird to look at than all the heavily shooped ads she's in
i dont think shes ugly at all shes just SO damn boring and basic
kinda like yoona i guess
i feel koreans dont like girls with unique features and its so weird to me because they just pick girls who are so…..safe…and plain
Well a lot of fans are still mad at her for the whole kris wu thing, or for sjw points, a lot of them were asian americans so there's that, or just a case of yellow fever and the need to lash out at a ignorant yt person>>36897
lol maybe, a lot of kpop fans are still weebs too, actually kpop as a whole is extremely weeby
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Now delusional fans are starting to call him 'THE god'
And no surprise that it came from SEA fans
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she probably went on an extreme ana-tier diet to lose as much weight as she did in the first place after she got ripped to shreds the first two years of Red Velvets debut, and is just gaining it back as most people who starve themselves eventually do
Could be a combination of both -mixed in with constant stress and poor diet. There's so many factors.
A lot of idols have acne and I mean a lot…but as you know fansites edit the fuck out of pics so you never really know. When I first found that out I was so shocked. I thought all of them had pale,perfect, poreless skin like a retard.
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Grammys now accepts streaming albums so it means ratmon's mixtape is now qualified for a grammy… is it suspicious? I don't know… it just sounds really suspicious since they were part of the deciding body now…
And you know… someone from the group (if not the whole) needs to won something "big" before they becomes irrelevant…
Tinfoil, but…isn't this super suspicious?
I know that the south korean government has been trying hard for 2 decades already to push the hallyu wave onto the rest of the world, but it really seems as if there's more than just that.
What were the chances of somebody who's not in the big 3 to hit it big, not only in Korea but in the rest of the world too? Zero.
Usually only american or latin music (due to being right next to the US and the huge amount of spanish speakers in the world) was popular, this has never happened before, just a short while ago south korea was a small, literally who?-Country and suddenly everybody is obsessed with it. Somebody really must be pulling the strings for BTS and trying to get them to reach fame no matter what. But why?
I have to admit that I liked some of their earlier songs, but nowadays their so below average, so why do normies who never even liked kpop in general before care about them now?
Well we know BTS totally lucked out on timing, which is basically everything in the entertainment industry nowadays. 1D was on what now seems to be permanent hiatus and 5sos were stagnant/fading out of relevancy at the time. It's not clear how or why BTS
of all groups was the chosen one to do extremely well, but I think the government didn't push them at first, only after BTS proved to be the real deal in spreading hallyu. K-Pop was also a bit
popular before 2014, not like anything we see today, but it was an internet niche.
>tldr; timing is everything and I think they got lucky. If there's behind the scenes pushing it prob happened after they garnered hype in 'murica
my take on bts' fame is
>fake woke agenda
going all social justice is the trendy thing now and dumb teens think supporting them is also woke.
people like a "started foom the bottom" story in general. pandering about mental health is very trendy now and teens find it relatable. it makes them think that they are deep because they don't listen to songs about sex, they listen to songs about real social issues!!
>east asian entertainment's popularity, ex-weebs with yellow fever and fujos who like gay asian stuff latching onto them
they're always on some "armys are our gfs uwu" shit, they never had a confirmed relationship, they come off as available and it appeals to socially inept femcels. they do a lot of "2 of us might be dating, we might come out one day, just wait!!" fanservice that attaches fujos to follow their content to see if there's an update on their gay babbiez.
>the latest top boy group aka 1D's absence and their fans finding another boy group to obsess over
>companies constantly releasing new content
they watch an interview, travel show, another interview, a vlive, an entertainment show, and they fall further into it and try to keep up with everything. who knew.
tldr: bighit is good at keeping up with trends and pandering and bts was lucky with their timing.
>>36992>Anything is possible.
Especially when your president endorses you. I would've been really happy for them if the whole kpop industry wasn't so ignorant, misogynistic and rotten, or if bts had decent talent.
Would've been way better if it was some interesting band or someone like ailee that blew up.
The Grammys aren't even credible anymore. If someone like cardi b, the industry plant, can win best rap album or whatever then anyone can win really …
Lmao i literally saw this on my tumblr a few minutes ago. What a delusional attention seeker. She's clearly trying to suck up to armies as much as possible so they buy her shit with BTS.>>36980
Disappointing if true, but i'm not surprised. I'm not one of those people who is completely against streaming but it's undoubtedly wrecked music charts and awards for eternity. It's not just related to BTS or kpop, any semi-popular album can get an award or "record breaking" title for doing the absolute bare minimum, like extremely poor physical album sales and very short song legacies. The music industry has become a joke because of it, they really didn't think any shit through in regards to how streaming would warp everything.
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A new gg is debuting soon and it has the silliest name ever. I'm laughing so hard.
Their tweets are stupid too, they should hire a real translator. This is one of it:
>I am glad to have Korean fans because we have not had Korean fans in the meantime. It does not discriminate foreign fans and Korean fans. As you all know, I want to tell you
They're already pandering to twitter stans by following back almost every one of them lmao.
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So are they trying to go the same route as bts? Pandering to I-twitterstan-fans?
Also, I've search about them just now and the first thing I find is someone dragging the company for being a scam. Kek
Plus, aren't "purple" ratmys special color? It doesn't really makes sense even after #manager explained what their group name supposed to mean
RV is not a performance group in my opinion–without the music show cameras, they look like a group at a high school talent show group of friends with Seulgi being that one member who has dance/sang her whole life.
I'm not an RV stan but I'm so disgusted bc Sunny Side Up also looks so much better in terms of choreography and outfits. Why the FUCK didn't SM just use this as their title track?>>36954
I don't normally advocate for plastic surgery but I think if anyone would benefit from a chin implant, it'd be him. Even a dorito chin implant would be better than how he currently looks.
He has apparently had a nose job before which makes me wonder why the fuck he's still so goddamn ugly.>>36989
If anyone was going to be hyped by the Korean government, wouldn't it have been YG? YG and Psy have had strong ties to the Korean government for years.
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>they already have a fandom name
(Beckies)>they are using sns exactly like how bts used them
(interacting with fans thru sns prior to debut/ 'members replies fans themselves for 'we are genuine idols who cares for our fans' effect)>they came from a small company that came out of nowhere
(so they can use the 'we are underdogs' strategy to gain pity points from gullible fans who is always in for sob-stories)>They were already making a buzz for the bad "rumors"
I'm curious to see how this will work… specially since they were a girl group and rarely do a girlgroup get the same amount of obssessive fans. I'm probably stretching, but I think this is the "formula" that made bts successful and someone figured it out. Plus, the company didn't even have an office and was called out for being a scam because of that. I wouldn't be surprised if one of this days, we'll find out its one of big4 companies sister/subsidiary company.
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>>37024>they already have a fandom name >(Beckies)
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Bighit ceo did come from an elite family…
His father is a high ranking gov. official…
Uncle is an ambassador and news agency director…
Exo is slowly but surely dissolving, shinee will probably be too, nct is a failed project = they'll no longer have a representative boy group.
Snsd is basically done and red velvet is kinda dying too.
They have that Chinese group but idk how well they're doing.
I think SHInee as a whole is already done. There last album sold only like 50,000+ copies. After Jonyhyun's death unfortunately they declined in quality and popularity.
Tbh all SM groups apart from Tvxq are pretty much over are soon to be and they debut that new gg then it's really game over.
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Becky with the good hair called and she's suing for trademark infringement
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If anyone's interested here's a rare, old article about how some Koreans really felt about his looks before it was considered blasphemy to say negative things about them. Nowadays nobody ever mentions their looks and if they do it's usually some fans praising v's looks lol they don't wanna go there cause they low key know.
I'm really impressed how they manage to control themselves and not shit on their looks cause that's what they like to do the most online. https://www.koreaboo.com/uncategorized/netizens-claim-that-this-male-idol-is-ugly-yet-pretends-to-be-fatally-charming/
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Not sure how many of you watch Produce X 101 but I seriously hope Starship's next boy group flops after this bullshit they're pulling with THREE of their five trainees ranking in the top 11 with like 1/3 of the show's camera time consistently despite being ugly, short and not talented in comparison to other guys on the show.
The middle one gives me Korean Nikolas Cruz vibes and the one on the right looks like a blobfish.
Also currently in the middle of watching Episode 8 but I'm preparing to be disappointed bc I've been rooting for the actually talented trainees, no ep 8 spoilers pls
Don't forget Kidoh, also an original BTS member and close friends with them still. He took part in some pro-rape songs Iron made, and then got imprisoned for drug use.
Really stellar company BTS keeps.
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It really is a miracle, it's the year 2019 and a boy group with absolutely basic music, from a small mostly irrelevant country, who possesses neither talent nor looks nor charisma (or the ability to speak the global lingua franca) and whose shady past gets shielded by everybody is supposed to be the top of the international music industry.
I'd expect people who get to know BTS and with them the shady music industry that is Kpop to quickly drop them, but no, they apparently get brainwashed so fast that they don't even care about that…
Wow they are becoming even more brazen. I thought that last year was bad when they rigged it for WY and kicked out Miyu to put in Yujin (seriously the only difference between the two appearance-wise is the nose). But that's just ridiculous. The one on the left seems to come from the same pedobait factory as WY and makes really punchable facial expressions. The show would be better without Starship involvement. I mean they'd lose Soyou. But that's not much of a loss because she's a terrible vocal coach and just an overall unpleasant person.>>37041>Japanese boyband BTZ
Funny thing is that is not their name or even their official abbreviation. Nationalistic knetz and BTS fans made it up in order to give them a reason to hate the group and accuse them of copying -besides being a hiphop influenced group with 7 members (because BTS apparently owns both hiphop and the number 7). Anyway, they are an LDH goup with all that that entails. It doesn't stop Koreans and BTS fans from obsessively spamming their debut video with hate comments.
Blame everyone for not buying music. The record industry wouldn't be shilling them so hard if armys didn't buy so many physicals and so much merchandise across the world which makes a shit ton of money compared to streaming. 7.5 million domestic album sales (just in Korea) = 8 billion streams. Then factor in the foreign sales (Love Yourself sold 200,000 in the USA)>>37047
They don't need to put that much effort in. They figured out they can stand around with Jimin pulling faces and squealing and no one cares. Anyone who does gets called racist by the woke media (wanting a cut) and armies
kek, this is the first time i post about somi in this thread. she was charismatic during sixteen and pd101/ioi, but leaving jyp was a massive mistake. seeing how poor her performances and styling are compared to itzy is entertaining. i'm pretty sure her creepy stage dad played a big role in her leaving, which is unfortunate because she is not made for the solo singer role (yet).>>37053
no matter how many jaw shaves wendy gets, her head still looks too big compared to her body.
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every time i see him his nose gets smaller and smaller. how soon before it looks like mj
Not her choice. >10 times more charismatic
Not really, they're nothing special either and at least Somi's face is prettier. Your obsession with her background dancers is creepy, you can criticise her without kissing random girls asses.
Most dancers are either trainees or idol rejects (because kpop dances aren't difficult), so if Somi was allowed to debut with her sub-par voice, then just imagine what they sound like…
>>37059>Your obsession with her background dancers is creepy,
Lmao what? How is that anon obsessed with her backup dancers? Becausenhe said they dance better than Somi? You sound mad someone is criticising you untalented wifeu>>37060
Idk who's worse Yuta chan, suga chan or this Somi fag lmao
It wasn't just that, somebody put in the effort and tried to screenshot her background dancers to show how "cute" and "charismatic" they are>>36533>>36540
That's stanning and doesn't belong in the critical thread, even if they're not idols per se.
is this yungkook or taehyung? isn't the former known for his big nose or something?>>37065
how is pointing out that an idol is so bland that random idol-rejects turned backup dancers outshine her stanning? also this is an imageboard….
You could have written Somi has no charisma instead of "her dancer is so cute" "she's a qt" "what's her name?" and then a couple days later again "her dancers are better dressed and so charismatic".
As soon as that other anon called your behavior out, you started with Somi fag and now again and again. Neither her nor I have posted pictures of Somi to prove her cuteness, there are more posts of people wetting themselves over her dancers than there's posts defending Somi. Repeatedly writing Somifag doesn't exactly help in trying to prove that you're not just samefagging, you probably don't know or remember this, but people only started writing Yutafag after around 100 blatant stan posts about him.
So that's your problem lol
Of course a white girl could never be as perfect as your korean backgrounddancer-chan
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this somifag stuff is too much, my sides.
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>in the 5th year of their career
>Irene is 28
>trained for up to 7 years
>super short with awful proportions
>dance like this
= one of the top kpop groups
You've got to be kidding me…
Looking at her insta, she still tries to bank on "I'm the first black idol, btw girlsss I miss you!"
Pandering to ifans and touring overseas is the dumbest thing groups/companies can do. BTS 2.0 isn't going to happen.
Crayon Pop toured with Lady Gaga a couple years ago, and despite only getting a small amount of pocket money, they were in debt when they came back because transportation etc burned most of their earnings.
I feel sorry for all groups who are forced to play in (South) America just because noisy fans demand so, they only have to work harder when they go back to Korea to make up for all that wasted time and money.
funny thing is that her dad is white and her mom is half black or something. she's probably 1/4 black and looks mixed race. she could easily pass of as another race if she were to straighten her hair (kinda like meghan markle).
do you think they'll keep making groups with members who are non-east asian, even though they flop? will a group with a non chinese/japanese/korean member ever become popular? it seems like it only worked with black pink because yg are/were a big company with influence. lisa being thai is also not used as a gimmick.
It’s funny ‘cause I seem to recall the commenters on Omona being triggered
by her, like she was encroaching on something sacred that rightfully belongs to Koreans, lol.
>>37095>will a group with a non chinese/japanese/korean member ever become popular
Unlikely. Koreans are racist as fuck. Th only reason the Chinese and Japanese squeak by is because they tend to have features Koreans like naturally and
they are similar enough that Koreans can pretend they are Korean. Twice is a really good example of this because the Japanese/Taiwanese members are the most popular but god forbid if one of them draws attention to the fact they aren't Korean.
>>37092>she didn't speak korean - "omg why didn't they hire a translater for you?!" >another member who spoke english was forced to help her>"is she still in the group?" - "i don't know lol", "aren't they disbanded" - "i don't know LOL" >i thought we would be like sisters, but communitcation issues and cultural differences… >i didn't ask for all this attention, i was in literally every newspaper back then>the others were jealous of me>didn't even understand that some members left the group>was hit on by male idols and dated one: they used the phone translater to communicate
Sorry, but she sounds like an entitled cunt (and Grace acts fake too). >>37095
I was surprised about her being mixed too, because she keeps repeating that she's black.>>37096
That's funny, she said if there was another black woman in kpop then she would have had a role model to look up to blah blah, but in the end of the day, if there's zero "korean" in you, then why should you make korean pop…? Same obviously goes for chinese, thai and japanese kpop idols too.
I wouldn't call her completely
useless only because she
revived Rania's career and garned them a lot of attention>>37095
Honestly yeah but I think it'll be mainly to cash in on the Western market. Companies see the success that BTS has overseas and want to cash in on that somehow so they'll start taking trainees who are not Asian and debuting groups with a non Asian member. All in hopes to emulate that success somehow and get western attention – all while looking diverse and woke.
>>37100>>she didn't speak korean - "omg why didn't they hire a translater for you?!"
Why didn't she bother to try to learn the language?>>the others were jealous of me
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This girl from purplebeck is so hideous, she's like Sinb's knockoff. Companies should stop debuting cookie cutters. The industry is so oversaturated it hurts.
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The dude on the left scares the fuck out of me. I haven't checked but he must be the new baby cow in fans' retarded fanfics. Can't blame them though.
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Stop I can't believe this. Someone tell me this isn't a shoop of some kind and this is how he actually looks!
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>>37095>do you think they'll keep making groups with members who are non-east asian, even though they flop? It seems like it only worked with black pink because yg are/were a big company with influence. lisa being thai is also not used as a gimmick.
They will, just to end up flopping in a year or two. These companies never learn I swear. I think Lisa's popularity is due to her charisma and personality more than her being a non east asian in the kpop industry, even though the latter plays a huge factor too. Other thai girls weren't so lucky.
More companies should learn from SM in this case. They stopped debuting non east asian when Isak and Jiyeon failed in 2002 (with Isak being 100% german and fluent in Korean, even though she could pass for a hapa). Non east asian artists just couldn't get the same chance in korea as they could in japan (crystal kay for example). If they insist on debuting as a soloist they should try japan instead. They won't get as much international exposure in japan but it's a good bet to have a stable career.
So Alex actually wasn't the first non-Asian idol.
I've never heard of them, her face is really weird for a German. Just proves once again that even fitting all their beauty standards won't be enough.
I wonder why they allowed her to perform though, that chinese member of Super Junior was forced to wear a mask, because they couldn't stand his foreign features (or so he/his fans claim) and here, a few years prior, they let somebody of a completely different race on stage.
Shes rude as fuck and its not warranted tbh
nobody would even know who she was if she wasnt thrown into some random kpop group that she didnt even know anything about.
She had LITERALLY been trying to make it as a video ho back in the states and met teddy riley and he got her in the group with basically no notice. Rania had been doing thing the "foreign idol" thing for the entirety of their career. She wasnt the first foreign member, just the first non Asian. Yet her stans were the absolute worst and ruined the fandom. She didnt speak Korean but thought everybody should bend to her whim to accommodate her. I agree that it was shitty for the company to do what they did for "urban cred", but unless she names names, I dont want to hear her dragging the other members through the mud. Nobodys jealous of you sis. You are a nobody.
whoa this whole time i thought isak WAS a korean
As you can see from that stage performance, Isak barely got any korean lines and when she did, it sounded kinda awkward. At that time the korean gp found it weird and annoying for a foreigner to be performing using their precious language, thus they were never popular. After InJ, Isak was famous for MCing and her guest appearances on gag shows (because foreigners were only useful for this kind of show lmao). Jiyeon became a member of CSJH The Grace (the supposed female version of DBSK), SM focused more on Jiyeon and let Isak did backstage things until 2012 I think.
>Just proves once again that even fitting all their beauty standards won't be enough.
People only started to be more accepting one kpop became an international phenomenon. Even so, they still have very strict standards to what they call pretty in foreigners. They praise Somi and Nancy for their looks but shit on them daily just because they gain weight, look old or something when they're just jealous they don't look like them. If Isak were to debut in recent years, I'm sure the public would give a fuck too because she actually fits their beauty standards.
>I wonder why they allowed her to perform though, that chinese member of Super Junior was forced to wear a mask, because they couldn't stand his foreign features (or so he/his fans claim) and here.
I think they only let her because it was SM, and it was such a new concept. They only had 2 to 5 stage performances. Even Shinvi had more.
Netizens ripped chocolat apart too calling all the members ugly except tia.
Even the fully korean member got pushed to the side in favor of her because she fit the ~pretty half white~ girl style.
They also sexualized her just like somi and eventually when it became clear the group was going nowhere, the other girls went back to america/europe and tia stayed and got mc/radio/variety jobs. Luckily Melanie and Julienne seem happy now away from idol life. While Tia still desperately hangs on to her attempts to stay famous.
I'm not defending her but
she didn't audition, the entertainment agency asked her themselves
Wheeeeww chile you sound like an Amerikkan fucktard who would pronounce lingerie as 'lingeray'. Calm down a bit this ain't it>>37085
Wtf why would they place their worst dancer in the front? Also they should try other formations so they could hide better their lack of skills. Like cramp everybody up and make Seulgi center always>>37088
She's not old just lazy and an untalented dancer. beyoncé's older and dances 10000000x better and shr ain't even that good either
Nayrt, but how exactly does that anon sound like an "Amerikkan fucktard"? They made some good points even if they expressed it with some extra vitriol.
Honestly, from your post, you sound like a stan twitter escapee.
>>36412>the chinese members to bail
From what I've heard about how SM treated them,they had every right to bail.>>36440
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Dafuq this whitewashing. RM lookin whiter than my scandinavian ass
Agreed. SM treats all
their Chinese idols like dogs even when they end up being the most popular or bringing in the most money. It would be retarded for them not to leave. And the other members can fuck off if they resent them for it, those chinks trained just as hard as they did only to get fucked over in the long run.
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Kek… the drama between k-ratmys and i-ratmys is so stupid I wish they would implode to smitterens
>J-hope received no cheer for his 'aegyo' because k-armys are bitter about the cheap face mask he gave away to them and so i-armys were shitting on k-armys for being entitled
Its quite ironic since they call themselves the "best fandom" for giving each other cute nicknames (k-diamond and i-pearls) and having "peace" and "cooperation" between K and I ratmys but here they are, calling each other out for entitlement
Guess what? BTS loves Japan since they always have the longest tour date and the best incentives and perks and they even bothered to put japanese subs on their stuff wayback before they realized their rise on western media
was his gift that shitty? i mean thousands of people in the audience can't be mad at the same time if it's not for a valid
Why are you so angry? lol
I was only repeating what that girl from Crayon Pop said in her videos.
Do you really believe that groups who fly around the globe just to play in front of maybe 200 people are making bank? I'm not talking about BTS, I'm talking about your average group who flies to e.g. South America for 1 or 2 performances and that's it, because that's what most do.>>37139
Same goes for you, tell us what your problem with that post is, instead of just swearing around.>>37152
I-cockroaches (that's how they really call them) are so pathetic, things like 'ot7' was never a thing in korea, they don't care about their feefees and will openly show which members they don't give a fuck about. Nobody likes Jhope, because he's ugly and obnoxious, period. Some girl on twitter telling everybody that she hates y'all
won't magically make everybody coddle man in his mid 20s who's sad because people didn't clap loud enough for him. >>37153>White girls istg they think they are way above us mortals so she doesnt feel the need to actually give it her all in her stage
Being an asian girl doesn't stop Jennie from acting like she's above her fellow group members either, it's not a white problem…
I was curious about this so I looked on Twitter:https://twitter.com/btsmytear/status/1142613127940513792
The fans didn't cheer his shitty aegyo kek.
>>37164>The fans didn't cheer his shitty aegyo
He's fucking 25!!! (meaning 'omg she's what? 30?' on lc kek)
It's insane how idols are allowed to act, nobody would give a fuck if Justin Bieber pulled a "sad" face because nobody liked him jumping around like some retarded monkey
He did an aegyo pout so he's clearly deeply depressed and will be having sleepless nights for weeks.
Hopefully the mountain of money and drugs he has will help him get through it.
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How do ratmies make it through the day
She gets hated on by both sides. Many toxic
Korean kpop fans can't shame her for plastic surgery cause her "desirable" features are natural so they're bitter and comment on her "white genes", and some international fans hate her for that too but more often it's because this girl has no discernible talent which she should have considering the immense popularity she has. Many jyp stans (cringe
) also bombarded her with hate comments after she left the company saying she ~betrayed~ jyp.
But she still has a huge Korean and international fan base, otherwise she wouldn't have come that far.
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they make it through the day by cooing and sperging at their baby bois having such a "difficult life uwu" while BTS reveal every now and then a sob story in the past about k-armys and sunbaes bullying them so I-ratmys can coo at them more (read the attached pic)
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No, she clearly doesn't Irenefag, I feel sorry for you if you think that's young-looking.
We constantly shit on people appearances, some of them barely legal (or not even that), so why can't we criticise a women who's close to her 30s? Your limbs are essential for dance and hers (same for Wendy and Yeri) just don't look good.
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Mind you, she's hailed as a goddess in Korea…
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nta but RV’s proportions are trash.
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Lmao no that wasn't shooped. He's really got that nightmare-inducing face.
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They always give them outfits that can only look good on tall, skinny and long-legged girls. On them it only makes them look like a strange mix between toddler and granny.
Snsd was so hugely successful, I wonder why sm choose to debut a group with such a vastly different concept.
I guess in the end it worked out, red velvet is doing somewhat well, but nowhere near on a level that a sm group was supposed to reach.
1) they do! that is why they goto such lengths to hide irene's shit proportions and yeri's fridge waist! they aren't scientists - they aren't singers - they re selling their bodies so they better look good lmao
2)irene doesn't look younger thn her age - you need to get glasses dear irene-fag (in fact if she stops getting hr face done so often she would look way older than her age)
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Lol do they really think nobody notices that their calves suddenly doubled in length
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yeah i don't get the sperging over proportions tbh. what's milky is the fact they try to hide it so hard, although this pic >>37192
is like 2/3 years old the stretching is still hilarious
i'll never forget when knets collectively nicknamed chaeyeon 'dachshund' because of her legs kek
I knew their faces were all photoshopped but now I can't even trust the body proportions and height and everything.
I'm convinced that the guys are all shorter than they claim to be.
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Well what do they expect?
Cat and Dog is a shit song whatever the case but the English version is utterly incomprehensible which is fatal for a song with a trap sound. BigHit has no sense of quality control. They should've debuted a group full of Korean-Americans, which would've been the best opportunity to cash in on BTS American and British stans. As it goes, not many armies give a fuck about this brother group. It's not even like looks or singing ability are that important for idols at this point. The members all look bland with no edge either
Dr. Feelgood by Rania remains the only comprehensible English version in kpop (since Jooyi for whatever reason understands English diction)>>37144
He got a bunch of shit done to look like an ulzzang, but Koreans love making hapas sport white styles and give them surgery to look rounder and more open, which a lot of the time is ill suited
It's ok, we're used to it by now. The best thing to do is to not even call them out but to just move on. When there's not much real drama in the kpop world some just tend to nitpick in the meanwhile.
That's why I only come here when something has happened.
I wish I was in K-ent ONLY so I could recruit the trainees who don't make the top 11 in PD X 101 (like JBJ) and make a new boygroup with the ones who are actually talented.
This boy group is guaranteed to suck. Kim Mingyu for instance is guaranteed to debut because the votes are combined and he's been in the top 5 for the past few episodes (up until now). For the ones who don't watch the show, the video attached is who I'm talking about…>>37181
According to an ex-SM trainee, the best trainee they had around the time RV debuted was Yeri. So I genuinely think that they don't have tall, long-legged trainees. Or if they did, not enough to make a group.
I mean look at NCT and you can see that the quality of trainees fell off years ago.
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Minimum -5cm…>>37225>So I genuinely think that they don't have tall, long-legged trainees.
I really don't get why, the average young korean is a lot taller than most might think (and there are plenty of girls pretty enough to not need ps), so why do only rich shorties with average faces flock to agencies (or does SM only recruit the small and cute ones, like johnnys)?
It's only healthy for your body and soul to not watch these ranking shows ever again, especially if you expect fairness lol
I mean that dude from wanna one got second place because his cringey end pose went viral…
There are always better, more talented and more attractive people. Most people who aim to become public figures do crave some attention and that's not something every attractive person necessarily wants. Many of them are plain looking or even unattractive but then get a complete makeover once they know they'll debut.
From what I've seen it seems like actors need to be very tall and more attractive than idols.
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>>37225>According to an ex-SM trainee, the best trainee they had around the time RV debuted was Yeri.
LMAO. it is over for SM unless they pull something out their ass with SPRY. i'm pretty sure this is due to lee soo man not giving a fuck since the 2012 corruption scandal. TVXQ and SNSD made loads of money
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I don't understand why Big Hit went down the route of picking basic ass bland looking boys. I see the appeal of BTS and them having completely different apperances, like you're able to tell the difference between them all and the personalities for fans to latch onto. But, TXT has nothing going for them lmao. They're far from being the "next" BTS.
Big Hit should have either debuted a girl group with a vibe similar to BTS, but they're all Korean Americans. (They could've done the same thing with boys as well). And continued with their cinematic approach like BTS' HYYH era, but no, the money that they're clearly getting from America says otherwise.
They're trying to pander to the West and obviously flopping.
(Pic is to show how basic and similar looking TXT are).
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This guy looks scary, he has so much plastic surgery.
the guy you just posted is a different guy from whom op posted.
this is dongpyo, op posted hyungjun
The confusion about who is who lmao
I wonder how it feels like to spend day and night with people who look exactly like you…
because sm didnt really plan for snsd to go down in flames
they didnt plan ahead at all and thought they would have their uWu ot9 cash cows forever, so they didnt really care about the other female groups on the roster and now they're fucked because its harder for a female group to be as successful as male ones, so now they're mostly focusing on males
SM tried it to a certain extent w Shinee… Hate or love JH/Onew/Key’s voices, they can sing live w power.
But—despite the fact that the only less talented member is Minho—they exerted all their effort into Taemin’s solo career despite JH writing/singing his own music. If anything, it felt like the really vocally talented members were just holding space for Taemin until he got his shit together.
I think now that you can auto tune live vocals, all this effort is a waste of time and money, but it also means you never get voices that sound at all like the record in nugu groups—When you hear them with a backing track and a mic that isn’t pitch corrected, it sounds like two different people.
awwwww…. you can actually tell when they aren’t singing live bc the backing track is quieter than their live vocals instead of some mr removed voodoo.
RIP! will probably never, ever see a group like this again, from SM or anyone
ia, but I think Jonghyun really started spinning and spiraling out (no armchair psychology, just timing) after he wrote a record like this and 1) would always be treated like an idol no matter how much effort he put in 2) would always be second class to Taemin no matter how much effort he put in 3) could never do better than a boy group no matter how talented he was
it’s not the best song that ever bopped, but just how badly it did is proof of just how fucked the Korean music industry is
Yeah, but I don't think this is what she wants. Fans who went to the USA tour mentioned how tired she looked and how dissapointed they were in her.
Kyungsoo enlisted earlier, he volunteered.
Samefag as >>37254
. I wasn't being sarcastic. ia w you.
op— point 2 was more in reference to how he was treated but SM. afaik, SM never pressured or properly promoted his individual songwriting endeavors. it lee hi got “breathe” the same way iu got “gloomy clock”—he played the demo for her as a friend. he would show up to foreign songwriting sessions without asking because he wasn’t “supposed” to. SM wasn’t going out of their way to support his career at all, he was just really prolific in spite of them.
Taemin on the other hand… got a Japanese solo before anyone else, got pushed with a capital P even circa Lucifer when his vocals were shit, total company bb
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Found this gem on Twitter earlier. Eatmys still the worse I see lmao
Something I hate about kpop stans are they double standards they have.
My silly little sister says Nicki Minaj and the likes are disgusting for dressing like hoes, while being and names Blackpink as a positive example of basically being the opposite. Just because they're skinny or flat they get a pass for how slutty they're dressed or how they dance. Kpop idols can were crop tops and micro shorts/skirts and still get called innocent. >>37269
Lmao "Kpop fans are cringy, we're Armies
Both of these things are kind of similar lol, a pot calling the kettle black.
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Still less racist than BTS
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I don't know what's worse, people who post in a thread saying they don't like it
or braindead loona fans… >>37279>Girllll
Twitter or Lipstick Alley?
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Literally the ugliest idol I have ever seen. I have no idea how she was placed 9th when she looks like this
even having a sweet spot for taemin, you have to admit that almost everything interesting about him is completely manufactured for that purpose by SM. his dance skill being ~the best~ (when key is probably on his level), his androgynous concepts (now i think he's doing it willingly, but they were definitely forced at the beginning), and his variety personality were all carefully and deliberately crafted by A Team. without his members or the intense coaching he had later on, he had the same boring/naive personality as everyone who throws themselves into training as an elementary schooler without living a real life.
SM and LSM in particular desperately wanted/wants him to succeed. key said they were having individual meetings with taemin about his solo by ring ding dong. jonghyun and key were both more interesting on their own because they made themselves interesting; taemin is just ~trying his best~ and shit.
sn: taemin's western press is starting to pick up. he did an interview for allure us (??) a few months ago. everyone else in shinee is dead or in the army, so no competition there. SM has primed him for a Rain status crossover forever. idk when he goes to the army, but he can't have more than one good year.
with all that money, time, and effort… do you think he'll actually make it? will withdrawing ratmys pivot to this dancing kween once their boys are in the actual army? or is he ~too kpop~ to succeed with the children?
it's a shame, because ladies code was so good. i thought polaris did such a good job with this debut back in the day.
it ended really tragically, but loona feels like it's the opposite concept in the worst ways instead of any improvement.
maybe polaris really is just laundering weapons money…
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suggestion for next thread pic
"During a speech at the Stanford Graduate School of Business in 2011, Lee said he coined the term "cultural technology" about fourteen years prior, when S.M. Entertainment decided to promote its K-pop artists to all of Asia.
In the late 1990s, Lee and his colleagues created a manual on cultural technology, which specified the steps needed to popularize K-pop artists outside South Korea.
"The manual, which all S.M. employees are instructed to learn, explains when to bring in foreign composers, producers, and choreographers; what chord progressions to use in what country; the precise color of eyeshadow a performer should wear in a particular country; the exact hand gestures he or she should make; and the camera angles to be used in the videos (a three-hundred-and-sixty-degree group shot to open the video, followed by a montage of individual closeups)," according to The New Yorker.
He looks like a fat jhope>>37298
And I always wondered why they didn't collect data of all characteristics the most popular groups share to calculate the ultimate formula to success, seems like they tried to, but looking at the newest groups it's clear they failed
For a gay man he's at the top of the fanservice game. Park ~idontwannagotoamerica~ Jimin should learn a thing or two from his friend.
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i always thought that they look eerily alike. jimin is also obsessed with fanservice, he just hates foreigners.
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after reading the fujo dispatch conspiracy theory in the last thread… i honestly kind of believe it tbh
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>>37320>Is he 5'6" or is Jimin wearing new balances?
heel lifts are out of control these days
Imaging knowing that your band member is gay and still having to do fanservice with him…uncomfortable
When bts gets individual instagram accounts the difference in popularity will become even more obvious. On v live there they post individual videos jk's and jimin's easily get over 20 million views within a week, while videos from the older guys sometimes don't even reach 5 over the course of several months lol there's no way they're all buddy buddy with each other, i believe jin will quit the fastest (even though he's not as vocal about feeling sad
like some others)
I wasn't that deep into it but I think these photos first came up because Kai's orientation was called into question, not Taemin's. Like, why does Kai have a nonstop slew of hetero dating scandals when it's such a financial risk.
I think the general consensus was that the dating scandals were a cover up for something
(government activity or fraud), but that beards set up to protect Kai's precious manly image sounds more like unlikely fangirl conspiracies.
If it was all for Taemin however… The fact that there is no
milk for his personal life and he "got married" is suspicious, combined with his in-company favoritism and flaming idol fanboys… (puts on tinfoil beret)
Because they want a group they can assign roles too. If a group contains all talented vocalists, it will ruin the purpose of a boy/girl group. Plus, usually vocalists cannot dance or rap well so they gotta find other people who can fit the roles. Also it's hard to find vocalists who are also good looking, look at Suju KRY (Suju's best vocalists) for example. Yesung was always the ugly member who could sing, Ryeowook wasn't popular because of his looks before the surgery, Kyuhyun was the only one who stood out but he couldn't fucking dance.
Mamamoo without Moonbyul would be a group of talented vocalists, Hwasa could do both singing and rap, but the company wanted to add some character so they added Moonbyul into the group. Same with Vromance (their brother group). They're all talented vocalists but they lack talents in other areas such as rapping and dancing (+ visual) so they just come off as awkward and nobody really knows them. To sum up, a group of talented vocalists should become wedding singers instead because they simply won't sell in the kpop industry.
Damn I've always wondered why this song was so underrated when it had this unique feel to it. SM never actually promoted it either, unlike what they did with Taemin's overrated bland ass.
YOUR LOSS SM, YOUR LOSS
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Idk if anyone still cares but it apparently came out that she wasn't lying. A rare case I think
Afaik moonbyul trained as a vocalist alongside the other 3 but mmm's company forced her to debut as a rapper. She wasn't added in the group at the last minute just for some 'flavour'.
But your main point still stands
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Don't know who he is specifically but the group is apparently called T.E.N. They're pretty unknown of course>>37345
It's a screenshot from a video on IG actually.
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are you for real anon. this is so shopped holy fuck hahaha please be joking why is half her arm transparent
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Is this the dude? Did she tell everyone which group he is from? No1curr about them but companies would prefer to keep it a secret I think.
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Lmao so even nugu groups would pick kfans more than ifans any time. More proof that ifans are dumb af.
>International ATEEZ fans, I-ATINYs, are currently in disbelief in the way the boy group’s agency, KQ Entertainment, handled things for a recent fan meeting.
>According to various reports, KQ Entertainment initially received complaints saying that there were too many foreigner fans who were on the guest list for the fan meeting, causing them to abruptly take out thirty international fans and replace them with domestic fans.
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I remember seeing this pic in the spam thread a while back and doing a double take because he looks so much like jk, I thought it was him at first>>37361
She has a good r&b voice imo. I wish she had more solos.
I'll stop before I'll get called a moonbyulfag lol
Lmao why are they surprised? A couple days ago I was watching one of their vlogs or whatever, it was one were they were preparing for their american tour.
Instead of being excited about having a usa tour even though they're rookies all they could talk about was 'k atinys we love you, we'll be back soon to you to show you even better stages' or something like that.
What's funny is that they are much more popular internationally. Guess they can't afford to upset the kfans?
Idk how Koreans can be so fucking dumb about it. They could make so much more money off foreigner fans lol and i guess they could have a longer career in the west since westerners 1) are used to longer breaks between releases, so they could go to the army and still have a fanbase 2) don't ditch pop stars that quickly when they turn 30. But yeah the dynamics of idols and kfans are basically of an abusive
relationship sprinkled with lack of business oversight
Kpop groups (especially from small companies) are ungrateful whiny bitches who don't acknowledge their own fans just because they're not Korean. If you saw the tweet of Purplebeck that I posted above, it's obvious that they're worried about not having Korean fans. They'd rather have a small group of Korean fans rather than a big international fanbase, when it's really the latter who keep them alive kek.
On the other hand, international fans are dumb for stanning those bitches. At this point they should know better that kpop companies always discriminate ifans, no matter how big the company or the group gets. Take a look at bts/bigshit for example. The big 3 only became the big 3 because they're much better at handling their international exposure. I'm not saying they're the best but like it or not, it's true. Idk what's actually going on, whether their artists actually hate performing for foreigners or not, but the big 3 are much better at hiding it even if it's true. At this point ifans should boycott kpop and leave it alone for the muh national pride Koreans.
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don't korean fans contribute more to sales than international though
exposure means shit if no one's actually buying anything
loona is a great example of this. they have more int fans than korean but haven't even sold 100k albums. you'd think they'd be making bank but they're not. spent too much time pandering to stan twitter types than pulling in a profit
those mv's and youtube views count for nothing if no one's actually buying their stuff.
in ateez's case i think it really is smarter to appease to native fans or else they'll end up like loona, all hype and broke. please the people that are close and desperate and the money will flow organically
kfans are a special breed. wasn't there a girl on hello counselor that said she spent her entire tuition/or inheritence on a group and says she just has to support her oppas?
pic semi related
Well, in fairness, I'm only basing that on what Netizen Buzz has relayed (I know, I know, not a reliable source) but it seemed all K-netizens had to say about them was either "literally who" or that they are unpopular outside of a tiny-but-dedicated group of fans.
When you've got tons of highly-upvoted comments saying they've never even heard of a group, it's telling.
Well I saw posts similar to it being made here so I didn't think there'd be a problem if I did. I just found it interesting that jk after all his surgeries looks like him.
Btw, does anyone remember (if they knew about it at the time) when armies were saying that yamada attended a bts fanmeet in japan a few years back and that v was his bias? He then came out and said that it was all lies and that he would never attend a fan meet and that while bts were having that fanmeet he was at home watching a movie. It was really funny and a lot of armies got mad and called him arrogant for that. I still don't know why they spread those rumors in the first place though
Nta but this might be why they are disliked in Korea.
>They're 100 days old as a group. And have a sold out USA tour. That is insane to me. Also, I fear for them and their fans because they have a company that isn't great. KQ has another kpop group (the one they were actually established to take care of and promote). KQ ENT is a fairly new-ish name. They renamed themselves to that about 2 years ago but before that, they were known as Seven Seasons (aka Block B's company).
>Yeeeeeep, my only hope lies in the fact that the old CEO killed himself (I AM NOT HAPPY OR GLORIFYING THAT HE DID. IM JUST SAYING. OBVIOUSLY NOW THERES NEW MANAGEMENT.)
>at least i think thats right? Block b had a past company and a current company, and all i know is the past company CEO killed himself when they banded up to sue him. Anyhow we can do nothing but watch and aee how they treat such obvious kings, its going well so far but it could be a ruseee
>ATEEZ is under the company that was created after Block B sued and left their first company. Up until Babylon joined the company, they were solely known as Seven Seasons. When Babylon (the first non-Block B artist) joined, they rebranded themselves as KQ Entertainment but it's still the same company. They have Block B (minus Zico), Babylon, Ateez, and a few other artists. I feel like it should be a very big warning sign when the biggest artist who was given complete freedom and control decided to leave the company and start his own though.https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop/comments/alnxvp/groups_that_are_huge_internationally_but_nugus_in/
They debuted less than a year ago so that makes sense that they're not known.
Ifans love them tho, they had a us tour and a european tour a couple months after debuting. They shouldn't be upsetting their main audience, but idk
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Someone already defended the stylist lmao
Nta but no one else has done that here… Someone posted a member of BAP, a kpop group, and said he looked like Jimin and compared the group to BTS, they didn't just post some random Japanese dude who looks sort of like Jungkook…
Feel free to go back to lurking the spam thread
The zimzalabim performance vid comments are full of 'you don't get it, their outfits are unique, better than cookie cutter boring like the other ggs!!1'
Unique doesn't mean ugly as shit, they can't pull it off. Somi can't either.
2ne1 for example had weird and downright ugly outfits but they pulled it off most of the time
Oh? Then whats this >>36652>>37395
It was just something I remember armies talking about a long time ago. I'm not a fan of either of them btw. Just forget I posted that. It's looks stupid now.
it looks stupid now*
I hate myself, ugh
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>Maria from the U.S. explained that among international fans of K-Pop there are people thinking that someone who is non-Asian better not become a K-Pop artist. After she appeared on the TV show “I Can See Your Voice”, she had to face malicious comments.
>Koreans who commented the post mentioned that he/she would like to see only Koreans in K-Pop. The person also said that they are already a lot of trainees in Korea. Another person mentioned she can’t understand why non-Koreans want to debut in Korea because there are already so many local trainees.
If anyone happens to know the show "I Can See Your Voice", it's just a fun game show in which the guests must guess whether the contestants are skilled singers/not. It's not even a real stage. I wouldn't have known Koreans would be so bothered to see foreigners on the show.
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Her nose scares me
Imagine that shit happening in europe or the us>we don't want foreigners in our precious tv shows!!!
Then maybe stop trying to appeal to the international market? Stop shilling how great your country is to foreigners? And while we're at it, why don't you just stay just stay put in your little country, then you don't have to see any of our faces at all lmao
Look how much they hate it when a foreigner appears on one of their stupid singing shows…they're such twofaced cunts.
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Sorry, I forgot that we're only allowed to criticise Blackpink's ana bodies, 14-year-old Wooyoung's face or any male idol's height, weight and looks.
All hail to our queens!>>37434
That doesn't explain why SNSD and f(x) had several tall members >>37181
, despite being starved more than RV. And groups from other agenices are also taller although they're kept at a lower weight than them.
It seems like they were deliberately choosen for the sm0l and cute factor.
I find that the majority of Koreans love it when other countries (especially European or North American) embrace their culture and appear on their shows. That's why, for a small country like south Korea, they sure have many shows with foreigners: Abnormal summit, problematic
men, I can see your voice and so many more. They just don't like seeing non-Koreans outshine Koreans on tv. Those people who complain about them are imo the minority.
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Yoona is wearing heels and Joy is wearing sneakers here. Joy is probably actually like 166 cm.
Yeah, Yoona is standing awkwardly, she's wearing very low heels, while Joy wears thick sneakers (+ insoles?) and you can still see that the lenght of their calves and arms are vastly different. I'd say Yoona is at least 5cm taller.
This doesn't mean that Joy is neccessarily lying though, to me she looks like a big girl, but maybe the taller members of SNSD were simply told to lower the height on their profiles to seem more "approachable" to men, that wouldn't be unheard of.
also black pink
kpop fashionh is just a horror show for the last two years all together
Not surprised, but disappointed. >>37448
I think so. It has a reason and says a lot about a country when someone with this much shit gets away without any punishment at all.
Propably he will be treated like a big fish or at least as someone with big contacts.
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Chungha's new single "Snapping" came out and my God, not only is the English bad, but so many of the dance moves are straight up recycled from Gotta Go. She looks even more plastic-y in blonde and ofc has to wear the same outfits that have been passed around by every stage in the past few months.
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Dressing up grown men in little boys clothes is so fucking weird. At least other idols shave when they have to wear shorts but this…
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yeah its part of the flower school boy image or whatever
weird as shit
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That's exactly what I thought as well. It's very 2ne1 i love you era were all they could wear for a while was that one versace print
I feel like SM artists never get to transition to being 'serious artists' though because the idol image brands them. It's like a former Disney Channel star who wants to break out and do something different, and yet they always carry that label with them despite how many sex scenes they film or how many drugs they use.>>37269
When will they realize how fucking stupid they look putting down other Korean artists when their BG's music sounds the same? I used to be an ARMY back when they first debuted and I still cannot process that the tiny fandom that I was once a part of is now everywhere and a complete joke at that. I don't even know how to put it in perspective when I think of how small and niche BTS' fandom was back then and then am confronted with how many psychotic fans they have now, it still shocks me just how massive their fandom is and how disgusting it's gotten over the years.
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Stray Kids finally went to Dr. Kim
Yet here you all are, posting in a kpop thread day in and day out as if that doesnt apply to you. Literally everyone outside this thread thinks it's one of if not the most cancerous on the entire site. Kpop is like radiation exposure and it affects antis just as much as it affects stans, get over yourself.>>37538
One, maybe two Stray Kids members bear a striking resemblance to a younger version of JYP. I feel like his npd is the only reason why those goblin motherfuckers are in the group.
>>37181>They always give them outfits that can only look good on tall, skinny and long-legged girls
Tall, skinny, and long-legged girls are going to look better in any outfit that's just life
If they didn't stick RV into shorts/skirts and thigh high stockings/boots they wouldn't look so thick-legged. I wouldn't say Bad Boy is my favourite song, but it seemed to pair with a very flattering concept for RV and made them popular with women in the Koreaboo communities.
SM keeps pumping the brakes with their concepts and forcing RV into these creepy infant roles. They could have them sing in chorus because they sound alright in those moments, but instead they have them jerking their stumps around while gasping for breath.
>bring it on themselves by not being talented enough to take the focus off of their image.
I'm not wking but people will still find certain celebrities ugly whether they are extremely talented or not. It's inevitable. Talent is not going to save anyone from criticism on their looks esp kpop idols. Koreans are to shallow and obessed with beauty to give a flying fuck about talent.
>look at western stars, some of them are normal looking as shit and even if they aren't, they usually have some kind of unique talent that people focus on. i only ever see female pop stars praised for their beauty because they're actually talented, even the less attractive ones like gaga are celebrated.
I don't even know where to begin because everything you just said couldn't be any further from the truth.
I get what you mean but the relentless image focus in Korea is making kpop become more of a monstrous industry every day. In that sense I feel bad for Korean self-made artists who have to co-exist adjacent to the idol industry>>37560
Kpop is all appropriation on some level but the main thing weirding me out about this is that the dancers are tan and styled to be ethnic while the group members are all sheet pale. Unlike past attempts to be street in kpop it doesn't even feel coherent.
>>37572>it doesn't bother me if netizens or i-fans itt pick on kpop stars appearances, they bring it on themselves by not being talented enough to take the focus off of their image.
this is how you create an ouroboros of labels seeking out looks over talent and pushing people into surgery and shit. nitpicking appearances past a certain point is stupid all it does is force women into anachan diets and get botched surgery.
>i only ever see female pop stars praised for their beauty because they're actually talented
what are you talking about, theres loads of singers and celebrities who are more beautiful than they are talented. gaga also got surgery and was hated on to hell and back for her appearance anyway, but she had a crazy gimmick to make up for it, which notice after awhile people stopped caring for her?
Going after looks leads to insecure young adults botching up their faces and then you'll be posting in here calling them gross wax figures.
Also don't be a western sperg. Ariana gets shat on for enunciation, Taylor used to get accused of only writing break up songs, Gaga was more known for her over the top looks and gay pandering than her songs.
And you're comparing American soloists to Korean groups, not really a straight comparison
Hara is one of the very few idols we should actually feel sorry for.
She was beaten and raped by her bf and it took a long time for the public to believe her. At first she was even made out to be the culprit. Of course that'll take a toll on her mental health.
Get your facts straight before spouting bullshit.
But instead you retards rather sperg that calling some woman's face or body ugly is mean and harmful!!!
nta, and while I think tinfoilhatting about Haras suicide might be a bit too much, it's not like falsely using mental health as way to get out if shitty situations isn't common in Kpop.
Look at the girl from Crayon pop who had to quit because she had "anxiety", when in reality she was just pregnant. Or Nam Taehyun who left winner who claimed to have mental health issues as well, but has had no problems coming back as a solo artist.
Seems like they're now afraid to do cornrows and all that lol.
Interested to see what the next "ethnic" concept will be.
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Okay I am one of those anons you mentioned. I found this on netizenbuzz.
>That’s true though, FYI that’s really a show between her & her manager , they work together for this show , even the police, doctor and paramedic said she’s not in dangerous situations at all and the first thing she did in hospital was giving EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW and following marijuana queen han soohee with her secret IG , she did this for attention and sympathy after her image was ruined bcs her marijuana post & her sex scandal. She fooled you all !
If it's true then shame on her lmao. Other artists with real mental issues are struggling but these people just make fun of it. I remember Son Hoyoung (a g.o.d member) did try to commit suicide in public a few years back and he took a long hiatus after that. Coming back in a month is kinda suspicious, I agree. Although she's still a victim
of that blackmail tape and abuse.
Yeah, because a comment of some korean rando that nb decided to translate means anything.
Maybe she likes Han Seohee because of the same reason we like her as well? She debuted when she was like 15, maybe she's glad all these men are finally getting exposed?
And she's not coming back either, she just signed with a japanese agency, she could be resting at home, her manager gave her a quick call and she accepted. That could be it.
Seriously what's wrong with you guys? That's a 4chan-tier level of "edgyness".
It doesn't happen often that we have so much proof about a scandal. Her doctor's report showed that she was raped, yet she had to defend herseld in court for scratching said rapist. Nobody would be okay after that and immediately plot a staged suicide attempt for even more attention. She's well off thanks to her success in Japan.
I swear, people showed more concern and sympathy for Jennie because some tinfoiled that she might be one of Seungri's prostitutes.
Lmao, savage. And absolutely true. Good for him for being so ballsy.
Soon koreans will boycott australia, so many racism scandals in such a short period…
Celebrities of any level of popularity constantly get compared to their fellow countrymen, what's the big deal?
not wking monsta x but they are actually competent singers and are overall more tolerable people than bts. if an english speaking media outlet talks shit about them monsta x can probably understand unlike genius bts opparz
kpop fans might cancel australia any time after this and the comedian who made fun of bts some days ago.
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The thing is, that host or any normal person outside of Korea doesn't give a fuck how cute or hot some idol might look like. They only hear their subpar songs and then decide that they don't like it, period.
All these stans who whine that you're not allowed to say that an artist isn't good: how do they live? Is your teacher or your boss not allowed to tell you that you're wrong or doing a bad job either? lol
Idols should be judged like any other profession as well.
And I don't give fuck that they can understand English.
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Speaking of, the yutachans who insist he's starting to look better are delusional. He looks just as fucked now as he did in the iconic chin pic.
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He looks like the ugly little brother Timur Simakov never had
you are right and it makes me wonder why some of these companies who are trying to get ~international fame~ don't put more effort in their music? everyone knows barely any kpop idols can sing, but i haven't seen many mention the awful production most kpop songs have.
i feel like monsta x are one of the few male groups who have a "sexy" concept that suits the female gaze. idk where collabs with french montana out of all people is going to get them tho lol. can this trend of flopping western artists doing collabs w kpop groups end soon.
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would you have rather she succeeded in actually offing herself? i dont understand…
anyway speaking of dying, AOA Jimin literally is