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No. 28947
Rant about Kpop, its creepy fandoms, and/or its fucked up industry. Or just nitpick some idols.
· Don't sperg, complain or pick fights.
· Don't racebait.
· Don't derail about dumb shit. If it doesn't directly have to do with Kpop, don't post about it here.
· This thread is not about shipping or fangirling. Save that for the general kpop thread here:
>>>/m/11970 or the spam threads here:
>>>/m/1166 (boys) >>/m/14862 (girls)
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>>27045 No. 28953
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so we know about armies who are convinced that bh & bang shi hyuk are gods amoung men sent to rescue us all but what about armies who go the opposite way (like some of the ppl itt tbh.)
example: @btstarot on twitter
https://twitter.com/btstarot(don’t know what screen caps to post because there’s a lot of shit to shift through and don’t know if it’s particularly worthy)
personally i find it fascinating. this person is “predicting” a la tarot cards and “spiritual guides” a bts break up/bh lawsuit, bh causing an accident on purpose to hide the truth, etc.
lots of tinfoiling and annoying love for the ratman, iirc she believes that he’s adopted and his home is ~in America~ - screenshot sort of related
if you want to rot your brain and have nothing better to do, i recommend it
No. 28955
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>>28951Not sure about Dahyun though, she always looks so dead inside.
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>>28956so would i, honestly
basically this is a “kpop predictions” account. this person is predicting the end of bts, basically. she also thinks rat was adopted and his real home is in ‘murrica but i’m having trouble finding that post since the last time i checked this account so maybe it was deleted. the context is difficult to explain so you kind of have to read it all to get the full delusion.
flood of her predictions incoming, will sage
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part 2
No. 28966
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>>28965part infinity: the end
No. 28968
>>28960yeah, that twitter account is also interesting but slightly more grounded and probably more relevant
should have led with that oops
https://twitter.com/neoliveson/status/1118602380256346112a bunch of her threads on bh and shitman bang
No. 28972
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Im gonna need twice fans to stop posting this performance saying >dat ass and >dat jiggle in regards to dahyun
This comeback was a mistake. Making them go from pedo bait lolis to full on hooker attire and their fans are losing their minds(what little bit they had to lose in the first place).
No. 28974
>>28972>>28955I don't know if it is the same anon, but there is some anon here that has a big bias against Dahyun and I have no idea why. Keeps calling her a neanderthal and other stuff, when she's mostly harmless. She has no ass/jiggle, but not enough to keep bringing her up, imo.
Sage for slight rant/wk
No. 28978
Samefag but lolcow is spergy and not letting me reply correctly. By second anon I mean this post was me
>>28972, not in the order you quoted.
No. 28981
>>28977>>28978Sorry to drag you into this, as I said, I didn't know if it was the same anon or not.
I sperged a bit because yeah, it's a thread to nitpick too, but it's kind of annoying to keep bringing the same thing up (not the case of the ass, just how "ugly" she is), especially when it's pretty irrelevant and basically no one shills her.
Anyway, speaking of TWICE, I noticed that the side tracks are actually pretty different from their usual stuff. It seems like the girls had a bit of saying in the songs as well (it was brought up in past threads too), and this just kinda proves me they do want to change their ~totes kawaii~ personas, at least a bit.
Corporate probably won't allow it as main tracks, though. Or at least, they'll test their waters first with those b-sides.
No. 28989
>>28951Personally I find twice's smiles to be forced and robotic, plus the sheer number of members saves them from individual scrutiny - Mina, Momo and Tzuyu look just as dead on stage as BP most of the time but they get away with it because they have 5-6 other members to hide behind.
Tldr they are all overrated kek
No. 28991
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wow
No. 29000
>>28993For all the millions that twice is making jyp you'd think the company would know how to up the budget for "girl-crush" style MVs but apparently not…. they've changed outfits (which aren't that much shorter or tighter than their previous pedobait clothing btw) but they still sing like children with "I want you oppa" submissive lyrics.
As shit as YG is, they're very good at making Blackpink MVs look expensive. Red Velvet MVs are very well-produced and conceptualised (Russian Roulette, Peek-a-boo). Twice videos always look the cheapest out of all Big 3 groups even though they're making the most money.
No. 29004
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wtf
No. 29005
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The op and all the replies are armys, how surprising, and they keep saying "don't drag bts into this"
https://twitter.com/listenbts/status/1121992162571251713?s=19 No. 29008
>>29004The blatant infantalization in K-pop is so gross. Western boy bands/girl groups don’t typically go around wearing bonnets and carrying binkies and stuffed animals but that’s common at K-pop fansignings.
>>28992This all reads like some armchair psychologist stuff but your insight on Bom’s interesting and plausible. I remember watching some clips of Bom on Instagram live saying something like “Blackwho? Oh…I like BlackPink…they’re my sisters” very awkwardly when asked what she thought of BlackPink. She also made remarks where it seemed like she had issues with former 2NE1 fans who stop stanning her group after BlackPink debuted to leave.
No. 29009
>>29005I won't doubt that bharatanatyam is sacred for hindu indians, though i don't know much about it. I guess it's cultural appropriation when it's done by someone outside their own race/religion?
What bothers me is that bharatanatyam remix version of BTS does exist and no one bats an eye. Makes me think that OP (on twitter) only brought it up because it's jennie and we all know they've got some beef with blinks. I'd like to know OP's reaction to the video attached and see if they'd still rant about how sacred the dance is or shut up because it involves BTS.
No. 29016
>>29014Because even though Blackpink are also shit, they're taking severe attention away from BTS in some US metrics (ie playing at a major festival opposed to some boomer tv show) and that makes armys seethe. They spent so much time shitting on and burying EXO and Wanna One only for Blackpink to show up when BTS were 'breaking through to the West'
Also army love to use BTS wokeness, 'our poor discriminated asian bois' and all kinds of sjw shit as a cudgel to break them into the West, BLACKPINK doesn't have or need that as much, so BP (distinctly nonwoke) succeeding kind of exposes that as what it is (a scam)
No. 29018
>>29014Because Blackpink's popularity is a huge threat to BTS' fame in the west.
BP songs are light catchy dancepop which is the perfect sound for huge festivals like Coachella and the members are better English speakers - so far a lot of Western celebrities have noticed and praised BP, they only compliment BTS when asked to.
No. 29031
>>28977ntayrt but IMO your comment is baselesss, she doesn't look dead inside there. I know this is the thread for nitpicking but there's a difference between nitpicking and saying something that just isn't true.
It reminds me of when other anons call idols unattractive when they really aren't, and it's just baffling because you wonder if those people are from a city that's populated entirely by supermodels so they think the average person is GORGEOUS and call less-than-goreous people ugly.
Or when anons post a pic of an idol purposely making a weird faceand then call them fugly. Like yeah, they look weird there. That's the joke.
brb, making a kpop critical critical thread.
No. 29034
>>29031if you know this is the critical thread then why are you unloading your cum for dahyun here sweets
idols without the makeup and styling look disgusting - 90% of them - just because we are not blind to this fact doesn't mean we live in a place full of supermodels
even average people look better than idols where i live because at least thy are natural and have their own vibes instead of fake idols
please do go to the general kpop thread cuz this aint it
No. 29045
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I'll put an end to your guys' dahyun argument by reminding you who's actually notorious for looking dead inside when performing.
No. 29048
>>29044You aren't helping either, retard but I'll undo it and make this quick.
>>29031Pretty sure my opinion was as simple as saying that (I personally think that…) not all Twice girls are that energetic on stage, which is a very subjective opinion and totally different than the crime that you were accusing me of lmao. I wasn't even forcing anyone to agree with me. Stop overreacting.
No. 29049
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How can anyone deny it at this point? Her mid body and head are near the same width
No. 29054
>>29052That is true. I think one cannot really imagine the amount of pressure on women's looks unless they live in a country like that.
Every freaking body part is sexualised, evaluated separately and needs to look a certain way for a female idol to be considered attractive.
Vid related is seolhyun measuring the fucking depth of her members' collarbones.
It's insane.
Eating disorders are guaranteed if you're not strong-minded, regardless of whether you're an idol or not.
No. 29055
>>29053>Actual fans do not care about BP the way they care about BTS.it's because bts got most of their fans through social media, and is what they get clowned for in the us.
bp got most their fans through music. which is lucky because they'd be fucked if they had to build up based on their personalities.
No. 29058
>>29055i recall yg saying something similar about bts and bp's popularity. even bts themselves deny that their popularity is due to social media but it's the reality. it's a dead meme at this point but the
any armys here xd thing did blow them up.
No. 29061
>>29059I don't know if I'd call it a change. Their 'concept' is basically red velvet but way way toned down (generic pop basically). It's nothing different from a lot of the 'popular' groups at the time - right now it probably would be because everything is so stupidly beat heavy.
Kpop fans love generic pop.
No. 29063
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>>29054this video being AOA is even more horrifying given Jimin's recent state. She easily overtakes Hyuna, Sunmi, BlackPink, Wendy, with how worrying her appearance is right now. Part of that might just be that she doesn't get face fillers and hair extensions as often as they do though, K-pop styling can really help cover declining health. See how peak SNSD and Twice manage to look glowing and healthy when a regular girl would start to show some worries after years of being on the borderline of ill health
No. 29065
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>>29063holy christ this is nightmare fuel
No. 29066
>>28966Is the BTS struggle story armies sperg about true or exaggerated? Armies always talk about how BTS came from a small,poor,janky company but on bh's Wikipedia page it says that bh had a joint management with Yg…so..
Also when BTS debuted they always sold at least 200,000 copies or just under that (up until like 2014 when they changed their concept.) Which is pretty good for a group from a small company. Everything else they went through (debt, starvation, intense training,living in a shitty cramped dorm room) is not unique to them. Most if not all kpop groups went through at least one of those things.
No. 29071
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>>29054Does anyone remember when that girl JinE (pic related) left Oh My Girl because of anorexia? I was surprised her company made an official statement about it. That's the only time I've seen an ED being candidly discussed in kpop. It's fucked up but IIRC she was one of the least popular members so maybe the company figured people wouldn't care too much? Meanwhile there are idols who look even more sickly than her (jimin, Wendy, Rose) but nobody says anything
No. 29083
>>29081>white peopleStop being
triggered and go back to tumblr
No. 29085
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>>29081They also got accused of appropriating Native American culture by doing that dance with the ululation in boombayah, I'm surprised not many(especially armys) didn't talk about this.
No. 29102
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>>29085never forget the gloriously offensive native appropriation that was T-aras YaYaYa
man times sure were different back then people could get away with anything, kek
No. 29106
>>29066JYP, not YG.
Also Bang PD comes from a very rich family and has relatives in the Moon Jae-in administration….he has connections for sure
No. 29108
>>29005I feel a little bad that these people don't realize that no one in kpop cares about their issues.
How can they not see that kpop is the music industry of an isolated and fairly xenophobic country with minimal awareness of other cultures?
International kpop fandom is insane
No. 29113
>>29108With how obnoxious and down right awful Armies are, I don't feel too bad about them being played.
More than likely, they know what's going on but would rather turn the other cheek because then they would have to admit the thing they poured so much time, money, and energy into was actually everything they were supposedly against, which takes a certain amount of self-awareness and humility.
No. 29116
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god imagine how yanked and painful that ponytail must be when having to do this choreography
No. 29117
>>29114I don't necessarily agree with that stance but basically:
They refuse to learn English, bts members go back to kfans after international tour saying how much they missed them, apparently gifting kfans only,… at least that's what I got from reading this thread?
No. 29118
>>29117i dont understand why international fans would expect literally anything else lol
east asian groups typically dont GAF about western fans other than getting their money
its the same with japanese groups both pop and rock
No. 29123
>>29121Vocals really went out of the window there.
Honestly I don't see them having a good and supporting relationship - someone always gets treated better. Even in the ad campaigns (I think they got some makeup thing for Autumn recently?) the only person who looked good in all the photos was Jennie. Lisa is loved by the majority of the fandom, and Jisoo and Rose are sort of thrown to the side. Their entire relationship as a group sometimes comes off as widely competitive (Coachella performances) and generally that they don't get on (Blackpink house)
No. 29124
>>29121Not wking but I saw the clip of her talking to the audience and if it weren't for her nobody would've talked to the audience and it would've been awkward af cause the rest of them were just standing there, waiting for her to speak, and Jennie only managed to force out some words.
There might have been many fans but the rest of them literally have no idea who they are so someone's gotta hype it up a bit, even though it's a rather forced and awkward attempt at that.
No. 29126
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oof…idol cms are really something else nowadays
No. 29127
>>29117Yeah the refusal to learn English claim is weird to me. Because I know other members have tried speaking up before in previous interviews and they did fine. Learning English is hard and Korea doesn’t exactly have a good ESL model.
It seems that they’re quieter lately though? I’m wondering why?
Everyone knows by now that kpop is entirely controlled by their company so I wonder what they’re thinking. I don’t think BigHit is even hiring anyone or giving them time to learn…? So is that xenophobia or mismanagement? Or a little bit of both? Are the other members being told not to speak and leave everything up to RM? I don’t know what’s going on there.
Everything else can be chalked up to the usual Korean nationalist PR which all kpop groups suffer from.
No. 29134
>>29127Imo bts is terrible at English considering they have the largest international fanbase right now. RM is the only one who can speak it competently, and dominates every English interview.
I've noticed that many other groups have multiple fluent or semi-skilled English speakers when they have a much smaller international fandom. Ex- Momoland, Monsta X, NCT, g-idle, 2ne1…
I think they all have the choice to learn. And the free time to do so if they wanted, when they're not promoting.
No. 29135
>>29133i wouldn't be surprised if they could get in trouble for not treating her right
at 1:53 jennie seems to be rolling her eyes, lol i've always felt like there's some tension between her and rose
No. 29142
>>29134Idk. Suga and Jin seem to understand basic things.
I think maybe you’re overestimating how much “free time” they have. I think learning English to promote overseas should be part of the time they spend preparing for comebacks instead of a free time thing and I don’t know if that’s the case.
No. 29145
>>29142They all know a bit of English, but even when I was a fan I was noticing how they could barely put sentences together, whereas other groups had multiple members speaking competently in American interviews.
I think BTS said specifically that they had more free time than fans think. But you may be right - English should be taught to them as part of their work schedule. I don't think that's how it is but that would be a smart move on their company's part.
Or maybe it's a management thing and RM has been told to dominate interviews. This clip kind of makes me think that
No. 29146
>>29144It's annoying but I guess it's kind of sensible. They'll always just be a short-lived novelty in the West, and any Western momentum they manage to buy or build will be destroyed the second they have to go to the army and the press moves on to a newer, fresher foreign group to write clickbait about.
They'll never amount to anything more than a funny curiosity in America, while Korea will pour money into them far longer.
No. 29149
>>29148nta but I actually did used to be into BTS after they first debuted and I can confirm the way Jimin acted to that kid was gross.
The kid was about 12 and showing him how to properly clean airplane. Jimin did a bad job, so the kid said, "Oh, that's OK but it's better if you scrub harder, don't worry about damaging the plane."
In response to this Jimin said to the camera: "I want to beat that kid up for being so rude to me."
No. 29152
>>29145Even if they have more free time than fans think it’s probably not a lot when compared to what some Western countries think when time off is talked about. Anyway yeah I think personally that it’s a company problem and they’re not bothering with proper training or teaching and if they do, it’s seriously bad.
Corporate seems more interested in merch and fan service….
No. 29155
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>>29149Lol is this where this meme comes from?
No. 29157
>>29149Which part of isolated hermit country and teenage boy (from said isolated hermit country) did you not understand?
Wait, I forgot to add “teenage boy from isolated hermit country with an absurd age hierarchy deeply imbedded into the cultural consciousness.”
Jimin was dumb but so are you. Why are you expecting so much? Is it not the same as army thinking bts is aware of every cultural nuance?
No. 29161
>>29160> Even Korean men can understand threatening to beat up a 12 year old for very gently correcting them is fucked up.nta but disagree tbh
koreans are notorious for abusing younger people because ~muh seniority heirarchy~
No. 29164
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You all remember that one time a member who was supposed to debut in BlackPink got kicked out after being getting caught dating? Fortunately she got to debut in another group but it's funny how G-Dragon gets to notoriously fuck around with various models/idols over the years and YG doesn't give a fuck.
No. 29167
>>29164Iirc fans said dating wasn't the reason for her leaving but I don't know much about that. All I know is that the actually talented ones (Kim euna for example)have already left. She and moon sua were actually talented rappers but none of them made it. Instead they chose lazy Jennie who admitted that she literally got recruited as a rapper cause she was the only one who spoke good English there, which is funny considering how her stans brag about how she made it into yg because of her rapping skills.
It's also funny cause it implies that Jennie thought she was good enough to be a singer when she auditioned. (It's from that radio interview they recently did, if anyone is interested.)
No. 29171
>>29163Wait, is that because of the vlive where i-fans were spamming “look behind you” in broken Korean?
I’m on his side with that one. That’s annoying as fuck.
No. 29185
>>29174They look more real in that American photo posted in the past thread
>>28661. Especially Jennie and Lisa's true skintones
No. 29186
>>29183>you wouldn't get that in korea and it makes a differenceit isn't unheard of, bp do perform with the same yg band in all their korean concerts (just like bigbang and 2ne1 did).
lovelyz and highlight had a band for their concerts too.
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https://www.kpopmap.com/netizens-humiliate-red-velvet-joy-for-wearing-really-short-dress/>some netizens want to blame Joy instead and have been saying some pretty mean things, while one even went as far as to say she was a disgrace to the nation.So idols dont have any freedom at all at refusing an outfit even though it's too short (like this one)?
No. 29199
>>29197there are a lot of biased people here as well, anon.
While he isn't the best dancer, he does the choreography rather well. Stage presence mostly depends on the viewer, though. He has some flashy moves, so that's a plus. He's also close to the front-centre area during much of the dance, which may help in that regard. Really, you'll find him if you're looking for him.
No. 29200
>>29197He's actually a really good dancer, but I wouldn't say his stage presence is anything too special. I've seen people claim they're actually afraid of him when he's on stage, which is ridiculous considering he's like 5'7 and probably weighs less than most of his fans.
But he can go hard when he wants to and is better than most idols in that regard.
Also I feel like intense boy group concepts are easier for idols to pull off since they just have to look angry onstage, which seems a lot simpler than constantly smiling and trying to not look dead inside.
No. 29201
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this is gdragon tier
No. 29202
>>29199Lol I know there's a lot of biased people here too, that's why I said "might." Btw what do you think of the other members compared to him during the performance?
>>29200He is really bad at anything besides "intense" concepts actually, like chill or cheery concepts
>>29085That sound their making is middle eastern (ululation) but the movement is native american. Lmao can't even appropriate cultures right
>>29201Yikes
No. 29206
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Wait, nctniggers pls go. Stans who sperg about all the members who are more popular than their biases are pathetic, not critical.
No. 29223
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>>29198ok but the dresses and skirts twice have been performing in recently are just as short if not shorter so…its ok for them but not her? not sure i understand…
No. 29224
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I summon suga-chan
No. 29232
>>28949I'm late but this video will never not be funny for me
I lose my shit everytime Rose sings the bridge. Good shit
Thanks blackpink for existing lmao
No. 29233
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bitch i'm scared
No. 29248
>>29245
>fridge waist???
I know she doesn't have Tzuyu's level of tiny waist, but how is this a fridge? She's actually quite shapely.
The nitpicking ITT is reaching k-incel levels
No. 29252
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>>29248Nta but that dress didn't compliment her features, she looks best in jeans
No. 29259
>>29255she doesn't have a fridge waist tho?
not everyone can be rose the dancing skeleton, just saying
No. 29261
>>29257Lol true, and you feel like you have to write a defense statement or a disclaimer on why you're not a fan before saying something that's not overtly hateful, or correcting something.
It's still the only place for ex-fans to discuss the toxicity of kpop without being harassed by little kids so I'll deal with that.
No. 29269
Look at the amount of infighting
>>29268>>29259>>29254>>29255>>29252>>29248I shouldn't have posted this shit in the first place
>>29245 No. 29272
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Speaking of the Burning Sun stuff, what the fuck were these masks seized during the 윤중천 scandal preceding it? These were supposedly worn by high level officials. I used to think youtube conspiracy weirdos were crazy but now I'm not so sure
No. 29274
>>29272Not sure how legit it is, but in the west those kind of masks are used for sexual abuse, it's like some sick bondage torture fetish thing. Or if tinfoiling is allowed here, those kind of masks are used to induce trauma to the
victims (beta kitten sex programming) or for role-play purpose (bestiality, etc). Someone would probably ask me to "go back to vigilantcitizenforums" or something, but that's just my two cents.
No. 29276
I don't understand why people can't be fans of idols (I guess I'm mostly speaking about female ones since this it's mostly a problem with them) and talk about their obvious eating disorders and body weight problems. Why must they fool themselves into believing their beautiful and healthy? You're not being a bad fan or whatever so why don't you admit it?
Also offtopic but isn't it funny how idol concerts is mostly lip-syncing and relying on the (very loud) backtrack the whole time? Like you see people praising their idols like there's no tomorrow and I'm just like: that's lipsyncing tho…..
>>29274Your on to something, I'm pretty sure it's related to things like that
No. 29279
>>29276Kpop is built upon a belief that both the idols and the idol system are perfect. If people start talking about the flaws, it will ruin the illusion. Kpop fans are delusional enough to believe everything presented in front of them as they are.
Kpop fans are mostly made up of easily impressed teenagers (though there are many young adult and adult fans too). It gives them comfort to feel as if they "own" the idols. Simply put, they need someone to look up to, thus they expect the idols to be perfect and be everything that's different from their daily life. Of course you can't bring up normal people's problems into their "already-perfect" imagination.
On the lip syncing thing, I legit miss the 1st gen era stages (the no lipsync ones) where voices were permitted to shake on stage as long as the idols didn't fuck up the whole performance, and fans didn't complain about the bad performance because they knew that's bound to happen with no pre-recorded vocals/lipsync. It was more human.
No. 29281
>>29277Definitely
So nctzens are sperging right now, apparently nct were being filmed by a hispanic channel and the host made a fan kiss taeyong on the cheek. Of course now fans are crying about how "poor oppas they looked so uncomfortable!" and "asian culture is different from your culture how could you do that to him! Your so disrespectful!" "educate yourselves!" "ReSPeCt aSiAn cUlTuRe reeeee!"
No. 29292
>>29121What a bad performance. They weren't dancing, they barely did it because there were backup dancers behind them… and they didn't sing either, because you could clearly hear the recorded track. I could only hear Jennie's occasional yelling.
So if they didn't sing live and didn't dance either, what did they do? Just some jumps on the stage while looking pretty.
No. 29310
>>29224Suga-chan here.
I don’t know what you want us to say at this point. Something more happened to his face than just weight loss or gain. Whatever happened to his jaw, I think he’s still cute. He’ll be cuter when he’s actually healthy.
Suga-chan out.
No. 29312
>>29306Why can’t they just bring him in asap?
What the fuck is this “we’ll arrest him in a week or so…” bullshit? Do they give criminals a chance to turn themselves in to save face or what?
No. 29314
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>>29198Meanwhile male idols take their shirts off on the reg and get nothing but praise for it lol
Also idk if this is just a bad pic but this guy looks like geodude
No. 29315
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OG fridge waist Queen Fridgefany reporting for duty
No. 29320
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No. 29321
>>29279My main problem with the whole 'they're perfect' thing is the fact that saying they're too skinny is instantly branded as skinny-shaming and just because you don't like the idol or have said something about them before - you're an anti and you're just looking for flaws.
Honestly I don't particularly mind BTS shit singing when they dance because it's hard to dance and sing but at least they try. It's when they're doing nothing or avoid singing that it's an issue for me.
With Blackpink the whole issue is the fact that they're almost never live and when they are you will usually notice that Jennie is a mess. Rose can be horrible (no doubt) but at least she sounds similar.
No. 29322
>>29255you sperg about joy being a ~fridge body~ anytimes shes posted literally anywhere on this site not even just in this thread
its getting old tbh
No. 29323
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>>29320oof is that wendy?
No. 29324
>>29114Just wanted to add to what others said already: whenever they're filming in America they usually go to korean restaurants and/or talk about how much they miss korean food (which is something that other groups are also guilty of doing) - meaning while they're in the US, while the're making money off of american fans, they're still trying to please korean fans back home by sperging about muh superior korean food (and culture).
Now imagine some american artist only eating burgers when in Korea and whining about how much he misses mac'n cheese, how would his korean fans react?
No. 29327
>>29321For a main vocal rose seems very insecure in her singing and she almost always avoids higher notes or the more "difficult" parts although their songs are simple in terms of technicality and can be easily sung by other, better main vocalists.
Jennie on the other hand is too damn confident when she sings and it's time that her vocal coaches or whatever tell her that shouting doesn't mean you're singing high. And Jisoo's voice oftentimes sounds quite grating and maybe too mature…it just doesn't fit the songs they're singing.
Lisa's the only one left and she really isn't stated as a singer nor can she sing.
I don't get how they don't the same amount of criticism for their singing as twice tbh.
No. 29336
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>>29333christianity is surprisingly popular in south korea, especially compared to other east asian countries
No. 29344
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She looks older than her parents
No. 29345
>>29344potential milk: twice momo's father apparently is a hugeeeee fan of jihyo and apparently went to a lot of hitouches for her - which doesn't sound all that wholesome as onces made it out to be
also momo once said that she is envious of jihyo's big "eyes" once in yhy sketchbook - i mean momo is the serial bra stuffer in twice so
No. 29347
>>29344her parents are cute
she looks nothing like them honestly
i think shes ok looking too but i cant tell if its plastic or if she just doesnt share any traits
No. 29357
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rosé's torso looks like worm lmao
No. 29361
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>>29345I'm really impressed (is that the right word though?) by how many cup sizes idols can go up through various tricks.
why bother to wear push up and hip pads…just embrace your natural shape. It's not like the pressure to fit in is that big; their country isnt filled with girls who have insta-bodies with double d's.
No. 29363
>>29351I abhor how this part of the show is being used as some sort of "health" exam to see if these women are "fit" to be a cadet and yet the ones with normal BMIs are treated like absolute gluttonous traitors. How is someone like Lisa who has a BMI of 16 with no muscle tone at all any better than a woman who eats well and has a normal BMI?
Their standards are fucking sick and all of you ana-chans who are criticizing fridge waists on underweight women are contributing to them as well. The only people who need to be nitpicked about weight imo are the ones who are seriously disordered and need help.
Random thought but if YG didn't intervene with Bom's plastic surgery addiction and her mental health following her "scandal" then he isn't going to intervene with Rose's obvious eating disorder either.
No. 29365
>>29363fridge waists depend on bone structure jeez you can starve yourself to death but unless you have good bone structure you will be ugly - unless you get ribs taken out lol
so idols should just embrace however you are and not mediaplay
No. 29378
I went to the NCT127 concert in Atlanta, let me tell you my opinions and observations.
Ok, first, I'm in my early 30s,I took my little daughter, my husband was there also. I was in the front row, reserved seats on the right side of the stage so I was able to get a really good look at all of them.
It was completely packed and crazy hot in there, girls were dropping like flies. The employees had their work cut out for them.
So, the show was 3 hours. they had really high energy the whole way through, even though it was so hot. They all seemed to have a really good time performing that night and they ALL talked in English the whole time until the very very end when they said their feelings on the show, city, etc.
Most charismatic that night was Taeyong for sure. He was having a good time and it showed. I think they might actually like being in America, unlike some others.
Second one that stood out was Yuta, he had a really good show that night. Like I said, they all did good to me. I'm no expert on kpop shows but it was fun. It was obvious they were lip syncing some parts but overall it was live.
Jungwoo and Taeil were probably the ones that stood out the least, but they still did fine. Doyoung was the city ambassador member? He seemed to have had a genuine good time in Atlanta. Said he ate fried chicken and fried green tomatoes, lol.
Yuta saw my daughter waving to him and threw her a little ball with his signature on it, well he threw it to my husband.
Overall it was pretty good, and I was looking for things to criticize.
No. 29379
>>29363that and the amount they lie about weight on their profiles is also sick. Visually they fit beauty standards at 52kg anyway, yet they still have a need to write 42kg on their profiles to encourage a more unhealthy mindset to their fans.
It's also kind of sad how the guy tells Lisa she's very underweight and needs to gain weight, but we all know YG will never let that happen.
No. 29399
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>>29378 this just finalizes the fact that you ppl really are fans of group a and just want to come here stroke your hate boner for group b kek
No. 29406
>>29400Nepotism & corruption, same as most countries entertainment industries. Even the UK's music industry (once known for its social mobility) is 8 out of 10 rich spawn or Sylvia Young graduates now.
While this works for other countries and people blow smoke up rich kids asses, it doesn't work well for such a visual industry like k-pop - people think Umji and Chaeyeon are hideous
No. 29418
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>>29378Go back to the general thread
No. 29419
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Would these be forehead implants? Never seen anybody natural have a lump like that when you see them from a profile view
No. 29427
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>>29191sorry for beating a dead horse but i actually lol'd when the camera panned over from a healthy-looking high-energy jisoo to rose who's struggling to prance around on those meat sticks she calls legs like some kind of wounded animal
No. 29433
>>29333The pope literally went to south korea a few years back. Would make sense how repressed they are sexually and with this cult shit going on.
Korean christian cults are common. Very common.
No. 29434
>>29431I feel like it's been established that this thread is full of ex-K-pop fans and current K-pop fans who aren't complete SEAcucks and can bash without getting butthurt. Still there are three other threads dedicated to non-critical discussion and I don't understand why not just go there.
>>29378Jesus Christ, anon. Not only did you pay to go to a K-pop concert as an older mom but you also brought your kid with you? Double whammy.
No. 29436
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sana used to be pretty. what did she do to her face? she looks so bad now.
No. 29443
>>29427lmao what an iconic gif
It really looks kinda alarming… can't believe I wanted to look like an ana-chan when I was a teen
No. 29450
>>29447there was barely any criticism in your post and it read more like >i spent money to see these guys and they arent THAT bad you guys
which is your opinion and thats fine but you clearly dont understand the tone of this thread if you thought this was the place to post that without any criticism thrown your way…there are other threads where you can praise NCT its not that big of a deal, but anyone praising an idol in these threads gets called out pretty much, especially when the idols you are saying arent that bad, are the ones that it seems there are fans of who lurk in the threads just to say >see, they're not that bad their voice isnt that bad and their faces arent that bad
which has happened quite a bit recently
No. 29451
>>29450Your right, I didn't criticize them much, there. I guess I just thought maybe there would be some interest bc of how they compare to BTS or whatever. And other things.
But it turned into an ageist bash towards me somehow. Smh
No. 29454
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>>29451>using the term ageist unironicallyKEK gtfo, embarrassing joke-chan. You
are too fucken old to be spending money on boy groups who rely on their looks to make money at the very least and you deserve to be cyberboolied for it. I honestly don't know how you expected us to react.
No. 29455
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wow such energy and excitement
No. 29468
>>29466Rania was hardly R&B. They were stylized electro dance pop. I guess you can argue that when they drug Alex into the group they attempted to appear more "urban". But Id hardly consider their music R&B.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYvC6TmJql0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9lvgEXCSzATheir music was similar to some other groups at the time, 9muses, After School, Tiny G, Dal Shabet etc. Even The Boys from SNSD was a similar sound and Im pretty sure Teddy whatshisface was responsible for that too.
No. 29474
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No. 29476
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>>29474wont someone please think of the poor privileged rapists, sexual abusers, and woman beaters
No. 29483
>>29148>>29157Hermit country…? Jimin doesn't fucking come from the DPRK. The republic is one of the wealthiest countries on Earth with a completely internationally integrated economy and media. If Jimin doesn't know, his agency constantly whoring for foreign attention should.
There were Confucian works from the 1400s written from an anti-abuse perspective by yangban. People just ignore this stuff
No. 29485
>>29453Mark and Jaehyun, I think
Mark is Canadian
Jaehyun lived in the US for several years
Ten I think speaks English pretty well but he's Thai
No. 29490
>>29487yeah the only people delusional enough to think snsd still exists are mentally ill soshified forum posters
which is kind of funny because you'd think it would be the opposite
what happened to power of 9? how can you say snsd is still a collective group when they literally kicked out a member lol
No. 29512
>>29507The sexually
abusive father episode made me feel physically sick reading about it. Then I saw the actual episode and felt a thousand times worse. People trying to justify it as a cultural thing when the guy was touching the kid's privates for ten minutes at a time? Not to mention all the other heinous things he did to his family, and how he was rude to his wife. I don't know how anyone can justify that guests behavior in particular.
The rest of the episodes aren't much better.
No. 29517
>>29515>>29516From reading these threads. I've been here since the first one.
>NtaYou sure about that? You're projecting/defending pretty hard.
No. 29518
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What's happening ITT
No. 29519
>>29518NCT NCT NCT NCT NCT
It's like Hydra. Stop discussing one group and two worse ones come back into the thread.
No. 29520
no one cares about your NCT sperging and hate boners, can all of you fuck off already?
>>29481i knew they were obsessed with weighting under 50kg but every time i hear that again it's just…creepy as fuck, damn.
No. 29522
>>29466Agreed. And i feel like they only accept rnb songs that are super sexual and come from groups who have a certain sexy image.
Mamamoo's mature concepts in suits were only popular among women and still to this day they heavily rely on female fans.
I wish red velvet would start only doing the "velvet" thing now cause I actually really like seulgi's voice for that genre, especially in automatic. But it's just not as popular as bubblegum pop.
No. 29529
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>>29198If it was an issue wouldn't they just not publish the photo? They usually do that stuff over there don't they?
No. 29530
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>>29432same thoughts, anon. kubrick didn't die for nothing
too bad girls here are too busy CaNcEliNg armys tweets and blogposting about ntc or entertaining obvious jokesters
No. 29552
>>29455This is obviously slowmo.
>>29549I've never seen my hero but I think it's a reference to how that guy is surly and constantly wants to prove himself for the sake of his own inferiority complex or something like that.
>>29405The general thread is too boring. This one hogs all the milk and you can't talk about anything interesting in the general. There should be a midway thread where you can hate and fangirl at the same time.
No. 29560
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>>29558Couldn't find a "center vocalist" but i'm sure it's the equivalent of "lead vocalist"
No. 29574
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>>29281Here's a screencap of that
No. 29579
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Lmao. They really did take the video down just to crop out a sigh that had the word "lesbians" on it
No. 29580
>>29576That's what happens when there's only one who gets pushed or gets attention. When they leave there's no one else to carry the group.
A good example would be Astro where the public really only knows cha eunwoo.
That's why I think groups should all be equal in terms of talent, looks etc. if they wanna be there for the long run.
No. 29587
>>29567>idk why nobody posts there anymoreBecause it's not as popular as this thread. Do you notice how kpopfags love spamming their shit under popular unrelated videos and tweets? They hijack discussions and can't stay in their containment area. They want low effort maximum exposure and (You)s even if it's not relevant. This thread is no exception.
Examples:
>any armys here XD>random kpop gifs>hijacking a popular article or tweet with "OT: STREAM ____!!" No. 29603
>>29581this happens anytime a group or idol does something that goes ~viral~ or gets attention, a member of another group will start doing the same thing
from the things they wear at fanmeets, to the "idol came up with a new way to make a heart shape with their hand and now all the idols are doing it", to falling on stage etc
No. 29608
>>29606I check out their "indie" music sometimes but it's all so bland and repetitive to me. Everyone is all the same. No diversity
>>29603Like the heavy breathing "ending scene"
No. 29609
>>29608if you actually bothered to diversify your search then you would find plenty of indie bands with lots of genres but no i guess you just think fucking dean is indie
"everyone is all the same" you say as if you have checked more than 5 indie groups - just say your brain can't take anything more than bland kpop and go
No. 29610
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>>29608I don't think I'll ever understand how that dude from pd101 went viral for
thisHe lucked out so fucking hard
No. 29612
>>29611>you guys are the perverts for thinking in such a waythis is such a pedo/future pedo dogwhistle for me
anytime ANYONE says that I know they're a pedo or at least super complacent with pedophilia
No. 29615
and this is why having foreign idols in kpop is an absolutely stupid idea
this is what killed tiffanys career and shes not even fucking japanese
even if you are japanese, do NOT mention japan ever if you are in kpop, or you'll be fucked
https://www.allkpop.com/article/2019/04/twices-sana-criticized-for-her-japanese-post-on-the-end-of-the-heisei-era?fbclid=IwAR04m-Fx9kQaWDvJJc38U2MPGC5Cs73Q8_SMWyzbm3HBoZFZXL1mthOv8Fk No. 29617
>>29615Patheticcccccc
I've always wondered tho, do the jline of twice ever mention japan or anything?
No. 29619
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>>29615>have Japanese members>sing Japanese songs>promote in Japan???
No. 29621
>>29619you would think
but korean xenophobia is no joke idk why people keep trying to gloss it over or derail when its brought up
>b..but ALLLLLL countries are like this all countries do the same things korea does!!111!!! why is it being discussed in a thread specifically related to korean music!!!11??? No. 29622
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I used to think Sana was the prettiest in Twice but now she looks plastic
No. 29625
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>>29623I don't think that's it. She was blonde during the Cheer Up promotions, and that's when her popularity shot up. She still looks soft and youthful and not so TIGHT in the face.>>29623
No. 29634
>>29631They
sort of don't. The darker color options are still pretty fair, and even then people just ignore them and buy the lightest one available. They also use sunscreen religiously and those can have a white cast so you end up with foundation that is too light combined with a white cast.
No. 29635
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No. 29641
>>29526Yep, that's what happens when you cut a cranial nerve. Jaw surgery is barbaric but idiots will keep falling for it every time.
There are many horror stories of forigeners going to korea for plastic surgery and they find out the doctor operating on them was not the one in their consultation and they come out butchered. There was a forum where they talked about it, I can't find it anymore.
No. 29642
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>>29635is that just the lighting or a forehead implant lmao
No. 29655
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>>29622>>29625I agree with you anon she looks really weird this comeback
>>29630I wonder if fansite photographers feel any cognitive dissonance when they spend hours photoshopping their supposedly flawless idols.
>>29631That pic isn't even that bad tbh
No. 29656
>>29647Nice contribution, sperglord
>>29655I'd actually like to see a video of how they edit these pictures. Like them picking the most ghastly pale shade they can find on the wheel
No. 29657
>>29656>someone makes a saged four word post telling you you're wrong>"r-reported for no contribution, sperg."the newfags itt are absolutely pathetic. are you the kpop mom who made this post
>>29449 too?
No. 29660
>>29657stop infighting and go complain to meta or something
>>29655i want to believe this is just flash photography gone wrong but probably not. looona is a joke
No. 29662
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>>29656higher exposure, colder color balance
No. 29663
>>29615Netizen Comments
1.You should be prepared to bring Japanese fans back and return to Japan.
2. No but why is she mentioning this on their group’s official Instagram
3. She is a Japanese but she is also a singer in Korea and works in Korea.
4. Why did she post like this? Is she crazy?
5. I know that this is a big deal over Japan, but she’s promoting in Korea, She doesn’t need to post about it
6. Japanese people write in Japanese to speak to Japanese fans …
7. Is this something worth swearing over? I’m confused. This is her country, so she is talking about it. It’s not like Twice only have Korean fans, they also have a lot of Japanese fans.
8. If you are making money in Korea, don’t post such things
9. Honestly, people in Korea do not respect Japanese royalty because of colonial war.
10. She is Japanese and She will return to the country.
1.[+4734, -511] If you are going to make money in Korea, look at it, Japanese.
2. [+3580, -280] Why is it that Idol who is active in Korea tells us about the abdication of the Japanese emperor who declared the defeat of World War II? Just go to Japan.
3. [+2605, -218] Go to Japan.
4. [+2159, -201] Bye~ I’ll skip you from now on.
5. [+1646, -99] It’s not your Japanese account, but you wrote it in your official account in Korea?
No. 29668
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>>29593>>29597In 2017 she did a festival, you can hear the crowd exclaim in shock as they think shes not wearing anything underneath her shirt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I46dBUiN4tE No. 29671
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>>29608yeah Hyunas friends loved making fun of her over it.
No. 29679
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>>29639is that Dahyun? imo shes probably one of the more natural looking girls in twice.
No. 29687
>>29682That
>>29581 whole post reads as a 13 y/o twitter stan that hates Momo because she had dating rumours with one of their oppas lmao
No. 29695
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>>29622Filler in her cheeks is really aging her. I'm not a plastic surgery expert but I tried looking for a picture with the same angle with a smile and her cheeks are really puffy now. Her smile also looks very forced even when it's genuine which might be due to some stuff in her forehead, and I've seen other people speculate that she's had her eyes enlarged even more around last year or so.
Overall, it's not uncommon that the 'visuals' of the group get a bunch of unneeded plastic surgery (see: Yoona of SNSD, Naeun of Apink, Hara of KARA). They need to understand that when they're already regarded as the pretty idol of the group that they should just leave their faces alone and not risk it. Fillers look so bad on these people, maybe it's because they're young but I have rarely if ever seen a case where fillers look good. The only exception is Hyeri of Girls Day who legitimately looks so much better after surgery and fillers in my opinion–and no, the infamous forehead implant pic is not included in that statement.
No. 29713
>>29711I know this girl has been mentioned here a few times but this video is somewhat relevant to the ps discussion.
She basically says that the amount of pressure to get ps depends on the company really.
So I don't think every idol is necessarily being forced to undergo surgery.
Many of them are gladly doing it, especially if it's for free.
No. 29714
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Nam-joo is like a body horror. Every face is worse than the last
No. 29715
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>>29714And she's only 24? I thought she was 29 or something
No. 29720
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Not a gen 1 sperg, I agree with the fat australian creep that kpop kinda sucked before 2007, but I'm always shocked at the amount of (relatively) natural beauties of that generation. Even the second rate groups like O-24 had nice looking members. The hell happened? Did the rich demand their fuggo kids get to the front?
No. 29721
>>29657>gets called out on their autism, resorts to calling the other part "n-newfag" and "kpop mom" (?)Cute. If you believe someone is wrong and you want to correct them, you should write down the correct info instead of just going "Wrong, retard xdxdxd". Otherwise it's just a no-contribution sperg.
>>29713Are their surgeries really for free though? I thought they were part of their debt, along with the years of training. (I'm talking about pre-debut trainees, not established idols)
No. 29722
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>>29720Perhaps it's the styling and no-ps factor that made them appear naturally beautiful. I liked S.E.S in particular. Nowadays even if an idol has good genes to start with, the excessive styling and surgery just ruin everything and make them appear very artificial looking. It's not helping that fans keep shaming an idol for not looking like the "ideal type", or shaming an old picture of them. An easy example would be wendy. She's naturally beautiful but she always feels the need to alter her face and body to keep up with (probably her own) and society's standards.
No. 29723
>>29711Are these contracts enforceable if the idols were minors when they signed them? Companies insist that parents have to be there so they can presumably get their prior consent, but idk it still seems sketchy.
The ex-SM trainee said in her AMA that surgeries are recommended but not enforced. I'll bet the idols themselves cave into the pressure and get procedures done
No. 29725
>>29722how can you call wendy naturally beautiful when she predebut looked like a 40yr old asian mom kek
debut era wendy was pretty but that was the result of surgery - it should've stopped there
No. 29728
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>>29725Not sure how to respond to this cause if i say that predebut her looked naturally beautiful to me i'd be called a wendy-chan, but if i side with you some other anon would call me out for nitpicking and says that she looks fine. I guess I'll just say that even if her styling made her look kinda old back then, she looked fine to me, definitely not 40 yo asian mom-tier and I'd gladly choose it over the anachan half-jaw wendy.
No. 29729
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>>29728She does look mom-like in some of her pre-debut photos and videos but she lost weight preparing to become an idol and probably had some botox jaw sculpting shit done to her face and looked better
Then she got her jaw lopped off and some shit done to her nose and this abomination happened
No. 29730
>>29728you picked a pic where she barely looks like herself thanks to neck bending and stuff - so yea you
are a wendy-chan
No. 29733
>>29722>It's not helping that fans keep shaming an idol for not looking like the "ideal type", or shaming an old picture of themExactly what many people even in this thread do. Shaming them for their pre-surgery face but also making fun of their current face.
It is critical to discuss the pressures idols face that make them undergo plastic surgery, or that they develop eating disorders and mental health issues because of public pressure but what's critical about judging people's appearances? It's the exact opposite.
No. 29734
>>29733It’s much easier to make fun of someone than it is to actually have an intelligent thought.
These threads started out fine but quickly became overrun with idiots who think being critical means being cruel.
Almost everyone who had something to say about the industry itself beyond plastic surgery/I hate [insert group/idol] because [insert shallow reason] has been pushed out.
Majority of cows itt are just fans/anti-fans that are too cowardly to be mean on Twitter because they know they can’t take what they dish out.
No. 29737
>>29729>>29730Nice samefagging idiot. If you are 2 different anons then it just makes it worse to know there are a bunch of idiots around. Anyway you are a real example of what anon
>>29733 said
>Exactly what many people even in this thread do. Shaming them for their pre-surgery face but also making fun of their current face. I'm tired of having to explain myself everytime i want to say my opinion on something cause some idiots will keep attacking me whichever side i choose
No. 29738
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So kyla (pristin) recently made a Twitter account and has been very active on there. It seems like she's lonely and wants validation. Or I could just be overthinking it and she's just happy to be done with idol life and ready to live like a normal teenage girl idk
No. 29753
>>29734This sadly.
These threads are lately nothing but a garbage fire of "x idol looks fat/ugly/old" or "my oppa actually…". It's just a dumb gossip thread now.
No. 29755
>>29753For the most part, I've stopped posting about shit on the industry because I would get nothing but 1 liners of "no1curr" and such because I didn't talk about retarded boy and girl groups. I've been here since day 1 seen how everything has gone downhill. Now that this shit has grown and these threads are dying I feel nothing but spite.
You all deserve it (especially NCTfags and Ratmies).
No. 29757
>>29755I've stopped posting here hoping that over time the NCTfags will get tired of shitting up this place and abandon it like they did to the general thread
I tried posting some stuff about Burning Sun etc but now literally nobody cares
No. 29774
>>29757Yeah…tbh the case just feels like it’s going so slowly so I don’t know what to say about it anymore except it’s disgusting and obviously goes far beyond idols.
And I don’t really trust much out of Korean reporting these days. Maybe I’m looking in the wrong places for in depth info.
So I guess Seungri is going to get a trial…?
Also, that woman who came forward saying she was assaulted by 5 members of the chatroom, does anyone have an update on that?
No. 29804
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anyone itt eat ass
No. 29805
>>29802when I saw that clip… holy shit I don't want to think about the fucked up stuff that might have been on there.
Also that picture from the christmas party…ew
No. 29812
>>29801they called him out so many times it's actually unbelievable.
i really wonder how much YG and other companies were involded into the scandal. i don't believe seungri is somewhat the big player behind all of it.
correct me if i'm wrong, but don't these kpop companies actually have some tax benefits or something of that sort? at least some good amount of korea's gdp depends on kpop and the entertainment industry.
it really sound like a bad conspiracy theory but reality is stranger than fiction.
>>29804don't post that shit here. just fuck off to twitter again
No. 29815
>>29746holy shit everything about this is the worst thing k-pop has done in a LONG time. what are they trying to prove with this english version?
>>29749don't insult travis like that, he doesn't write shapeshifter bestiality fic
No. 29817
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How is this even the same person
No. 29824
I got recommended these cringe masters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnqjA6l1WCYHow do their kpop videos get so many views, they look so stupid and aren't even funny.
No. 29830
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LMAO Somi will never debut an if she does it would be too late.
http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2019/04/jun-somis-solo-debut-postponed.html
>3. [+595, -24] Fact: YG's too busy dealing with all the senior scandals that her debut is being postponed…
>4. [+60, -1] Isn't her debut… too late now? Feels like we've already seen all there is of her..
>5. [+48, -0] Things just aren't working out for her
>6. [+41, -1] She would've been perfect in ITZY. Going solo is so dependent on whether your song is good or not. I wonder if she can land a good one like Chungha or Whasa.
>7. [+32, -4] There's obviously a reason JYP threw her out ㅋㅋ No. 29833
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>>29830aaand she is trying to pedal her debut on Instagram even though it got delayed again….
No. 29834
>>29590>if there is some alternative means to a successful singing career in SK besides being a manufactured idol product, please lmk!! but i think an impressionable preteen thinking "i want to be famous/i want to sing/i want to dance" leads them all to the same corporate idol machine… bc of SK's history of literally banning popular music, they literally have nothing else, and no cut-and-dry method of transitioning obsessive fans to their idols being grown ass women.aren't there plenty of indie, ballad and trot singers? and bands like hyukoh, nell and tons of smaller ones too
ofc few of them have the mainstream popularity of idols so that's the best shot at getting rich/famous, but there seems to be a place for musicians outside of the idol industry in korea. i'd guess for most people who end up as group members the dream is more in the glamor of idolhood than being a musician in a creative capacity, and musically inclinded people end up in bands and the like
No. 29844
>>29839Kind of like how if you can’t speak Korean, your ass is going nowhere in Korea.
(Excluding the hate-all-foreigners bit.)
No. 29846
>>29839It's got nothing to do with the kpop stars. You think the company is going to sign over Blackpink to Universal Music or Sony or something? That's basically shooting themselves in the foot, and the US music industry isn't going to just let some foreigners walk in the door and kick their own pet projects out.
Everyones got their own market to protect. It's why Loona isn't viewed favorably in SK, they are too Western market oriented, they open the door for losing trainees to a possible bunch of international companies. Blockberry already gets substantial overseas investment now. Probably why you got a kpop music vid that was nothing but a public service woke announcement.
No. 29863
>>29860I liked this very much. Some
triggered ones in the comments are pointing out how he's Chinese and that he should rather talk about things that are going on in china, but that still doesn't mean he's wrong.
He's absolutely right and he doesn't need to sugarcoat anything or note that the kpop industry is overall great and that he loves South Korea before he goes on.
No. 29864
>>29859I think it's more about feeling uncomfortable with body shamming women that everyone knows live in a sexist shit hole and already have a bunch of eating disorders and body issues fueled by the industry.
Also, it's just not very interesting to converse about who has or hasn't a "refrigerator waist".
No. 29865
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>>29864Precisely. Lol why should this thread specifically wk sexist dudes… Female idols get hate from jealous boy group stans, as well as from misogynist males on daily basis.
And the guys get shielded pretty much everywhere else for almost anything.
And contrary to that anon's claim, male idols get defended here all the time when their looks are mocked, just go back to the previous threads.
No. 29872
>>29867They don't because it would be utterly pointless. No one buys anything from Western urban acts, tickets are cheap, streaming is the only important metric. That's why the Western industry is jumping on this BTS shit. Especially because in their native country BTS revived the physical album format which is unheard of
>>29859Probably because the fans of the female groups aren't as annoying or psychotic nor do the female groups get bestowed with a woke pedigree except for and with loonatic freaks and mamamoo deathfats
No. 29876
>>28947I'm sorry but I have to say this, I scroll past this image every day.
I really don't understand why anyone would make an unflattering picture of themselves like this, her mouth looks like an anus.
No. 29881
>>29876Lmfaoo return of the prolapsed anus anon?
I don't know why his fans thought that was a good angle but ok.
Does anyone have the full picture or is this it?
No. 29884
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>>29881it was posted in the previous thread but here you go
No. 29886
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woke kings
No. 29887
>>29825Wasn't it Yeri the least popular member?
>>29826Low effort shit seems to rake a lot of views nowadays.
No. 29889
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>>29888beats me. they're really fanboying over him lmao.
why do half of male idols say Chris Brown is their idol/inspiration? disgusting.
No. 29891
>>29888They are clueless about shit that goes on with us celebs or how they're perceived. That's why they collab with literally anyone. I don't think they really care enough to know about their controversies but maybe they should since they rely on
woke american fans now
but seeing how armys don't care much about these things either just confirms that it's just performative bs.
No. 29894
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>>29858>>29873idk why they are so happy over stuff like this as if gay women need straight males bts' approval and v looks awkward
No. 29900
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>>29892Ot but does it really stop them from accessing prom from somewhere else? I've seen too many (male)idols joke about watching porn and all.
There's a reason why Eastern European women are so fetishized there. No. 29904
>>29890"more korean"
sincerely tho bro - fuck off ! ratmys infesting every fucking corner of the internet
No. 29914
>>29907Isn’t this part of why Nazi/fascist symbolism comes into play with some Korean artists try to criticize society?
Individual thought, creativity, etc is (sometimes literally) beaten out of people.
Also lol @ “they know about our problems, they juuuust doooon’t caaaare”
No. 29921
>>29918Hearing "Jennie and the crew" right after Dua Lipa makes me laugh
Also I wonder how Jennie feels being seen as the backupup dancer.
No. 29926
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>>29925Time to bring this pic back. (And before anyone says a screencap like that doesn't mean he's homophobic, I know.)
But just cause rm more or less voices his support of homosexuals doesn't mean that that's the consensus in the group.
No. 29957
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>>29936He did the exact same thing so he should be the last person disapproving
No. 29968
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I haven’t seen anons discuss this yet. Any thoughts?
I’m legitimately shocked that SM’s records with SES/SNSD were broken, I really didn’t think it would be possible to beat their sales and I remember back when SNSD had their first concerts it was considered a big deal because girl groups didn’t sell enough to headline their own shows for the longest time. The expansion of the market for girl groups is really surprising.
When Twice debuted, it seemed blatant to me that JYP was stealing SM’s blockbuster girl group format, even though Kpop fans were claiming the member count was just a coincidence and continue to deny the very obvious parallels with SNSD. I was skeptical that it would pay off for JYP at first but damn I couldn’t of been more wrong.
>inb4 stans argue about which group is better, I’m not a fan of either of them and they literally seem like the exact same to me
No. 29970
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wonder how much of it is due to the overall kpop i-fandom growing, in which case it wouldn't really be fair to compare across generations. bts also sells several times what 2nd gen boygroups used to when the audience was just korea/japan and afaik overall korean album sales have kept growing every year from the low point where the previous gen debuted
No. 29971
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>>29970I could be wrong since I’m obviously no expert but from what I understand the bulk of twice’s 3 mil+ sales are actually physical albums
And apparently if you factor in their international sales it’s closer to 6 million, although not even Forbes seems to have exact figures, still that must mean they’re the best selling girl group to ever come out of Asia. Makes me feel really sad for Wonder Girls and Miss A who were previously pushed by JYP to “conquer” the international scene and represent Asia but were thrown to the wayside to be overshadowed by Twice.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/caitlinkelley/2019/04/27/kpop-twice-6-million-albums-fancy/#5a71a9682bc0 No. 29975
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LMAO Her arm is literally a toothpic
No. 29979
>>29971yea the green in that graph represents physicals also
>And apparently if you factor in their international sales it’s closer to 6 millionafaik the twice sales record is for korean language albums worldwide (which comes out to the 3,7m), not strictly albums sold in korea like some sites reported it. it's more if you consider their japanese language albums. anyway for whatever reason everyone's album sales seem hella high these days compared to last gen.
No. 29983
>>29981Please no
No more NCT
I beg of you, don't egg them on
No. 29984
>>29968They have like 200 album versions per member plus horny pedos who will buy that many versions, I'm not surprised their sales are that high. Iz*one is essentially bootleg Twice and is selling very well because of their innocent pedobait image as well.
It's just sad that mature groups like BEG, Miss A and Sistar got sacrificed to the wolves for this because 90% of Twice's music sucks ass
No. 29985
>>29887Yeri is popular among Japanese RV fans and she has quite a few creepy male fans because of her age and cutesy act. Wendy is dead last everywhere kek
>>29935Rose and Lisa are also from upper-middle class families - but they might not have received the same favouritism
No. 29987
>>29878>>29880ooooh man I didn't notice that hahaha
>>29881>>29884it looks a bit less weird in full but still…..nah it still looks weird sorry…
No. 29989
http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2019/05/hani-and-junghwa-leave-exid.html?m=1That's kind of unexpected
http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2019/05/twice-fans-request-statement-on-sanas.html?m=1>1. [+2,030, -206] This is an example that shows what's wrong with Japan's history educationWhat's got announcing a new era in 2019 to do with WWII? Many japanese people see this as kind of a motivation for a change in their lifes, a new start, can't they let her be happy over this?
No. 29992
>>29990because according to them that's "skinny shaming"
rosé is obviously sick
No. 30001
>>29997Because people ignore it. They basically support the industry starving idols and butchering idols faces by saying shit like "oppar didn't get surgery!!!!! he is a natural beautiful cinnamon bun" or "YG/SM doesn't do surgery or starvation!!!" or whining about body shaming like the idiots here which doesn't do anything.
Very soon an idol is going to end up with serious neurological damage like the girl above or dying of anorexia or malnutrition. Nam-joo's face is already butchered. If i-fans attacked these diets and plastic surgery more the agencies would listen. Instead people make videos emulating these diets
No. 30003
>>30002Good lord the nasty noona bait is really emphasized here
The lyrics were bad to begin with, why did they have to make an even worse English version
No. 30005
>>29989I'm really surprised tbh I thought exid would stay together till they all decide to disband. Poor solji, she only recently came back and now their group is basically dead.
Why would hani and junghwa leave though? Neither of them can really sing…
No. 30009
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never stop being in awe of nayeon's confidence of appearing like her ugly self in actual live broadcast shows
No. 30012
>>30007Hyeri imo is the worst fucking "singer" in kpop i just can't understand
why anyone thought she was worth becoming a trainee and then even debuting. Anyone who has seen that mama performance will ailee probably agrees with me.
No. 30027
>>30025The Kara girls haven't moved a finger in years, yet all own huge apartments, because as soon as they had a hit in Japan (despite being completely talentless) they were able sell out domes.
>>30024Defending Sana from raging korean nationalists is not stanning twice… We've always hated on her for pandering to uncle fans, but in this case she happens to be the innocent one.
No. 30033
>>30024The Sanafags are just the resident weebs who try to make Japanese idols look like
victims at every given opportunity because they hate Koreans
No. 30034
>>30033yeah this stuff happens from the japanese end as well
https://www.jazminemedia.com/2018/11/twices-dahyun-attacked-by-a-japanese-politician-because-shes-wearing-comfort-woman-support-shirt/something has got to give with Korea and Japan, their tension is insane and groups working in both countries are constantly walking on eggshells
No. 30035
>>30022Pretty sure the Japanese monarchy, basically the main driving force behind Japanese fascism and WW2, is not something 'completely unrelated' to the deaths of millions of Koreans in the past 140 years.
Would you think Irish net commentators would have to respect if someone promoting in their country saluted the British monarchy?
No. 30051
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> be koreans
> put wrong shade of foundation on model even in a fucckccciingggg commercial about 25 new foundation colous ffs
No. 30059
>>30015Kpop would literally die if that happened.
And I'm all for it
No. 30061
>>30047How can female idols NOT be terrified of men.
The existence of a woman's body is enough to do this, and no matter the race or nationality it's always an extreme response.
Horrifying.
No. 30070
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I have never seen an idol up close in person but I always imagined their makeup would look like Edward Avila's. He's popular on YouTube for his kpop makeup tutorials and they look ok in the (heavily edited) thumbnails but if you watch his videos you can tell just how heavy the makeup is. It looks insanely oily and crusty at the same time, and his foundation is perpetually 15 shades lighter than his neck.
No. 30071
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>>30070Well yeah the makeup is probably cakey af, because of the lighting and all they have to put on more than normal, especially if they have bad skin.
No. 30097
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people at the bbmas were annoyed by this crazy fansite and her big ass camera I don't blame them
https://twitter.com/mejustinbobby/status/1123811384083480576 No. 30100
>>30097I just love how everyone else who doesn't give a fuck about BTS and Kpop look with disgust.
Kpop will never be big in America. BTS is only "big" because of their mentally ill fans spam them on social media while everyone else sees them as crazy.
No. 30103
>>30100And look at her serious expression. She's totally not there to just see them and enjoy their performance; she's only there to take pictures.
There are a few others in the background btw. These people are scary.
No. 30109
>>30103The level of dedication fansites have is insane. It's basically a career for some people because they usually end up selling merch/photo books to support their stalker lifestyles.
Kind of interesting and sad that there are so many young, talented photographers out there who've been brainwashed into their obsessions.
No. 30136
>>30134>>30130Yes. Here's a popular taehyung one for example
https://twitter.com/_nuna_V?s=09They follow their idol around, take pics of them, and post them on twitter. It's an expensive hobby that usually doesn't pay off unless you follow a popular idol and get a ton of followers and support like the one I linked. Though selling HQs, slogan sets, photobooks, etc. helps them make some money back.
No. 30138
>>30136Wew, I thought they were actual… you know, websites. This explains a lot.
If other fellow sasaengs buy pictures, they probably make bank. HD pictures can be sold even for $500 each, maybe more.
No. 30151
>>30145I never understood this. Nobody in New York will give a fuck because they're all busy. The one's that look will be like "who the fuck is this asian"
I don't get it.
No. 30158
>>30148I lived like this for a while. It actually ruined my work ethic in school and killed my ability to focus.
Twitter stan culture is terrible. People who get wrapped up in that end up on their phone for the majority of the day. And for some reason people don't seem to be able to quit once they get into this lifestyle. The worst part is the "sassy" attitude people develop from twitter tbh
No. 30175
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No. 30193
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>>30175I think she might be natural. If not, she either lucked out with a Korean surgeon who knows how to do subtle nosejobs, or she got work done in Thailand where they know how to properly handle her features. Either way she’s one of the more fortunate ones. Can’t imagine what she’d look like with those voldemort nostrils Koreans love so much.
No. 30194
>>30193Lmao that's not natural. It's subtle yes, but you can clearly see some telltale nosejob signs if you've seen some post-ops before.
Hopefully she won't mess with her nose again.
No. 30200
>>30193She also has a thicker upper lip, so injections too?
>>30194Can you point them out? I'm curious cuz I can't see it.
No. 30201
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Lmao jennie just cant stop being an attention whore. The looks on her bandmates are priceless though.
>Find Out Why BLACKPINK’s JiSoo, Lisa, & Rose Looked Shocked At Jennie During Recent Performancehttps://www.kpopmap.com/find-out-why-blackpink-jisoo-lisa-rose-looked-shocked-at-jennie-during-recent-performance/ No. 30202
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What The fuck
No. 30208
File: 1556984154726.png (1.05 MB, 915x598, screenshot-images.f2fcdn.net-2…)
>>30200Look at the tip of her nose and the nostrils. The tip has been reshaped and when you look at it from below it looks like a triangle, when her natural one used to be more round and bulbous. And on the front you can draw two parallel lines from her bridge to the tip, while before it started narrower and got bigger on the tip.
No. 30237
>>30217Wouldn't it be funny if this anon is actually the white girl in the video and posted it on lolcow to bump the views up lmao
But seriously what's wrong with the video? I watched a small snippet so maybe I'm missing something but there doesn't seem to be anything wrong? The girl doesn't even seem like a Koreaboo. Bad post anon.
No. 30239
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What kind of surgery makes your under eyes so puffy like this? I see a lot of idols that have this and it looks so weird and gross to me.
No. 30243
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>>30241no she's not natural. i don't know anything about plastic surgery but she's 27 and looks way older.
No. 30246
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Might have been discussed before already but aegyo sal really does alter the appearance of more Asian face a good deal. I can understand why it’s a thing especially since having big doe-like eyes is considered a beauty standard in Korea. The issue is that not eveyone looks better with huge bulging eyes and there’s nothing wrong a smaller eye shape if it fits with your other facial features.
No. 30247
>>30245he said it is tastier when eaten through hands and also he made kwanghee taste it then rubbed his hand in something and then made sakura suck it
koreans are disgusting: a proof
No. 30255
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holy shit
No. 30258
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>>30255That's so sad…how did she go from this to
that…
No. 30264
>>30261That's definitely not was implying. I wanted to show how healthy she was before.
That's the way you read into it.
No. 30283
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Does anyone else wonder how female kpop idols deal with menstruation?
I can’t imagine keeping up with those schedules and having a period. We can probably assume a sizable portion are underweight and have amenorrhea, but as for the rest of them: are they on birth control to take away their period?
No. 30312
>>30302She's fucking terrible, she always only sings half the lines. It looks even worse in comparison to Rose trying too hard and yelling her lungs out.
She definitely slept with someone to get the treatment she gets but she looks done with life and completely out of it. I think she's being forced.
No. 30319
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>>30246IMO its ugly on a sharp face. Almond eyes are striking and shouldnt be sacrificed
>>30252She is super popular she's ranked fourth most popular idol. netizens =/= general fanbase
>>30239That's not surgery though. Momo had 'aegyo sal' before debuting because she had forward projecting eyes, but they are probably altered with fillers to puff them up more. It's a common Japanese trait
>>30193She has had something done to her nose (to reduce width and bulk) and eyelids (rounder, possibly due to relaxing the muscle with botox?). I do not think she had an eyebrow lift though, because her eyebrows are in the same place (unlike Ariana Grande and Kendall Jenner whose eyebrows moved 1 inch up their face)
No. 30321
>>30283There's one interview Heechul did with a newer group (I absolutely can't remember who it was, sorry) and they talked about how difficult it is when they're on their period. So, either these girls were healthy/heavy enough to still get it and/or not on birth control.
Anyhow, I absolutely can't imagine how horrible it must be to smile and perform if you're someone who suffers from really bad cramps…
No. 30335
>>30243She's always been touted as a natural beauty despite her, albeit subtle, nose job. But it's getting so obvious that she has been pumping her face full of fillers to try and maintain the face she had when she was a young teen. She's going to end up with that typical bloated "gangnam unnie" face at this rate.
>>30250Most people get it when they smile, but it's a pretty common feature in East Asians to have it even when not smiling, especially if they're younger. It's just that as we age our faces thin out, so seeing an adult with a resting face that still has such a prominent bump there can look pretty jarring and in this case, probably fake.
No. 30344
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Is it just me or something is wrong
No. 30352
>>30345how dare you call me seafag i am HURT i am not from SEA ew - and also i shouldn't be surprised sure because people will even fap to cartoons i am just disappointed
>>30344chucky-tier
No. 30377
>>30344That picture does look really freaky, but to be fair he is making a weird face and the lighting isn't the best. But I think what disturbs me the most is how extremely skinny this he is. Like, I hardly ever see male idols this thin so what's up with this guy?
Plus anon I'm just curious as to how you got this picture, he isn't popular at all so I doubt his picture get shared around. Unless you're actually a stan…lmao
No. 30400
>>30382I saw this pop up and it's just an uncoordinated mess. None of them look like they really enjoy themselves either.
Almost all of them seem like they don't have the energy to go on tour or hold a concert that's longer than 30 min.
No. 30420
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what the fuck is going on with ratmon's face, they look like an old lesbian couple.
No. 30425
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Armys never cease to amaze me
No. 30431
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I tried searching for something related to the nct bus thing and this is what I found. Honestly I can't stop laughing at this pic
No. 30433
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Yeonwoo really can't catch a break with these shorts.
No. 30439
>>30431holy fuck
Next thread pic
No. 30465
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Tumblr never forgets.
I also saw posts saying things like "let's not hurt the girls who went in there, let's not be as crazy as the bts fandom" kek
No. 30471
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>>30468Supposedly an interviewer in the US was also "racist" towards them
No. 30479
>>30475Song sounds like those typical k-indie songs but nothing wrong with that. Its sad how the actually decent members of 4minute were completely invisible due to hyuna.
I only know her from unpretty rapstar.
Their main vocalist was good too but no one really knows them.
No. 30480
>>30476their parents are probably weird
abusive fucks themselves
No. 30488
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>>30485She was 15 at that time I think…jyp as as much as a disgusting creep as all the other CEO's in the industry. I wish someone exposed him already.
No. 30490
>>30482Charisma and her frame. Admittedly she's a significantly better dancer than most k-types
>>30489Because that's her real voice. The Minnie Mouse rapping only became obligatory in k-pop starting in 2008
No. 30497
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The wonders of make up
No. 30499
>>30496She transferred to cube and 4minute, I think cube was a JYP subsidiary at the time… but took a hiatus from WG for "health concerns".
The age old rumor has been that she got pregnant and had an abortion and that's why she went on "hiatus" from JYP
No. 30505
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>>30487>>30488Sohee was actually fucking 14 years old during the first few months after debut
Whenever anons rag on Hyuna and Sunmi in this thread for having blatant eating disorders or whatever, I always think about how these girls were locked away in the JYP dungeon as preteens being groomed and moulded into his sexist creepy vision of womanhood
No. 30509
>>30481What kind of pedonoonas? Homeboy looks like he's in his late 20s at least lol
>>30497He looks so damn weird, neither his head itself nor his features are shaped normally…
No. 30535
>>30530I wonder how her parents feel that she had to literally shake her goods on camera in order to gain fans lmao
As for Sunmi she is annoying and shallow as fuck - she panders way too much to the stan crowd and wants to make herself look like she is ~intellectual
Idols like Sunmi and freaking cockroaches BTS will go to great lengths to show they are intellectual instead of actually gaining knowledge through reading or shit.
No. 30542
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Her mom planned it all for her jennie probably didn't even want to be an idol I bet she misses her new Zealand life
No. 30543
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they ruined him
No. 30552
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yeah sure
No. 30553
>>30545jyp should kiss and thank his plastic pants everyday it gave him such a "funny uncle" image that has somehow convinced the i-rats that he can do no wrong
>>30544idc about her being SEA ( i mean she looks sea but she probably beats herself up over it everyday)but what about her dad
No. 30555
>>30554The facial standards for kpop were less neotenized facially then. Sulli was called 'baby' and was one of the pioneers of the child-like trend but still was 5'7'' and quite modelesque.
Wonyoung looks straight up like a little girl and k-netz are flat out saying they pray her face never 'matures' or 'lengthens'
No. 30556
>>30542Yeah I was quite surprised that instead of choosing to go the US to some prestigious private school and eventually uni, she just decided to go back to Korea to become pursue something with a very high failure chance.
Might be tinfoil but I just doubt that her seemingly ambitious mom would just let her become a trainee unless she was sure she'd debut/become famous
No. 30558
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>>30555I think there was an episode of her groups reality show where wonyoung mentioned feeling uncomfortable around her roommates because she was self conscious, implying it was her period or puberty. poor girl really is a baby.
yujin looks more mature than she does but she still looks pretty young, it was so awkward seeing yujin be center in I AM on produce 48, the song was supposed to be a sexier concept and she completely flubbed it.
for some reason the staff on the show decided to take a whack at kaeun (94 liner) and say it was a "cutesy sexy" song. it was clear people favored yujin, she didn't deliver. no idea why they made her center at all in that performance, she's probably the reason why the song placed dead last. it was actually one of my favorite concept songs from the show, second to rumor, but damn I won't deny how bad she flubbed the performance, the mcountdown one was better but she's not center material at all
No. 30560
>>30530wait that was jyp?
i remember they did some sort of photoshoot and the photographer was calling her fat the whole time and that she shouldn't win just because of her weight. jyp was defending jihyo afaik, unless something happened behind the scenes
No. 30562
>>30560i only watched clips on ytube but i think later jyp told her in a """""compassionate"""""" way (to save his image) that she is low-energy and thus needs to shed some
>>30556>>30556as if she had enough patience to study kek - she just partied and had sex
No. 30566
>>30564kek what the heck? Not a fan of Jihyo but it's knda fucked up for some middle-aged guy to basically imply to a teen girl that much of her worth came from how much she weighs. Welcome to K-pop, I guess.
Even with weight loss, Jihyo's short and top heavy so she still looks kinda "big."
No. 30572
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I'm fucking wheezing at this, Tom Holland has a fansite, complete with the heavy editing and whitewash
No. 30592
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>>30572it's even more obvious in this picture
No. 30597
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From the next thread onwards could we add a new bullet-point to the OP going something in the likes of
>Don't sperg if someone criticizes or makes fun of someone you like, nobody is interested in your shitpost defense of your bias group
or whatever
No. 30599
>>30597Thats what the no fangirling rule and the no sperging rule are for.
And the other thread rules were added because they happened way too often or because a farmhand yelled at us. The whiteknight posts are rare and amusing so I dont think they warrant an explicit mention.
No. 30602
>>30555 >>30554the weeboo way above that
triggered no sympathy anon the first time kind of had a point.
j-idols are even more underaged and even more sexualized, but their fucked up teeth/chubbiness/weird eyebrows/bad voices/whatever are treated as their "charm points" and even encouraged.
rarely is the hottest member of akb/ske/i don't keep up the center; it's the one with the most ~unique flavor~. generally, mainstream japanese singers and actors are way better looking than their idols are.
it feels like a much more positive atmosphere for attention-seeking girls going through puberty for the pleasure of older dudes than k-pop…
especiallyyyy since they can graduate once they become adults who realize how weird this shit is.
taeyeon and hyuna are the ghosts of christmas future for nugu ggs, and they didn't even really go IN on the plastic surgery until their 20s. v curious in a david cronenberg way to see what twice and bp look like in their late 20s.
No. 30604
>>30602omg, i remember seeing this shit for the 1st time on vice or smt, bc it became an international media story for a hot minute, and thinking… she's so UGLY for an idol?? and wiki says she only got more popular after she made this video and got demoted…
it's still super disturbing… but i guess there's this implicit agreement that if you're a talentless idol with average looks instead of a "real artist," these are the breaks until you leave. k-idols train forever and mutilate their bodies to at least look like they're talented and still have to act the same way…
No. 30613
>>30610The insane fandom atmosphere/learned more about how horrible the industry is/music started to become worse in a way but I don’t know if that’s just me growing up some.
I really only followed 2ne1 consistently until they fell apart.
I was never really involved with fans too much because even back then I thought it was weird but it feels more…intense now? Maybe because social media blew up.
There are some idols that I like and I’m kind of waiting for them to go solo, I guess.
There’s a lot to dislike and
No. 30614
>>30613Cut myself off accidentally, whoops.
But that’s basically it.
No. 30618
>>30610i still like… some. just like i occasionally enjoy western top 40.
but tbh, my original bias was shinee… which means
1) the corruption and cruelty of the industry is super obvious and unignorable to me at this point {like,
obviously i knew on some level, but now it's truly unignorable}
2) now that everyone but taemin is in the army, i'm not blindly watching every music stage during the summer and entrenched in the culture
3) most importantly, the LACK of talent and ability and group cohesion in every other group is PAINFUL by comparison. not fangirling, but shinee is like a super balanced rpg battle team, in which all 5 of the members were vital to the group for unique purposes and balanced/compensated for each other's weaknesses. watching the groups get bigger and bigger, with little distinctions between members, limited distribution of attention and actual skill between members, and more and more frequent comebacks is both boring and ridiculous to try to follow.
the fandom has entirely shifted from stanning groups to stanning individual members… lol, anon poster up top is right; it's getting more and more like j-pop in the worst ways.
i think what used to set k-pop apart was, despite being basic regurgitations of other pop music, it appeared carefully curated and impeccably executed. there's such a glut of it now that without special characteristics like performance ability, it isn't any different from any other 21st c pop act.
now that autotune and backing tracks dominate live performances entirely, live vocal ability means nothing. as an old school fan, i remember when practice videos really meant something and felt genuine; now they're so pre-produced that it's obvious that they're not prerecordings being checked for approval that get "dropped" online as a treat; they're an expectation.
also the plastic surgery and anorexia has gotten out of hand.
thank you for listening to my ted talk
No. 30623
>>30610Never ending circlejerking, hypocrisy of industry and idols (none of these niggas are innocent), non-scandal "scandals" (until burning sun), outrage culture, twitter cancer, retards who can't drop their oppars/unnies no matter what
Followed for a good almost 10 years. So yea, only stick around for the actual drama, which is there but very hidden.
No. 30626
>>30623Samefag, but everything I just mentioned has replayed over and over so many times that I don't register it as news. The exception is when these koreans leave and try to perform abroad, as it is a recent thing. It's laughable how they go from a circlejerk space of "korean superiority" to a space where no one gives a fuck and thinks you're rich chinese tourist #1,542,747,648.
Then they get upset when they're mocked on national television in Latin America and disregarded (at worse) / fetishized (at best) in North America.
No. 30628
>>30625This quality is like when the one family with some disposable income would sneak a camcorder into theatres to record and then invite all the poor neighbor kids over to watch it on tape after school the next day.
They always sat in the first few rows and it always looked like this.
You’re already an undercover army in the 9th circle of hell, find something better quality to nitpick.
No. 30629
>>30610I only ever liked it because all my friends did. Soon as i grew up and got out of highschool, i basically stopped listening to it lmao
The fandoms and basically anyone who admits to liking kpop are so cringy. I was embarrassed to tell anyone outside my immediate friend group about kpop. The industry is also awful. Can't support that shit.
Now I'm only around for the drama lol. Idk shit about any of the newer groups, but ik ppl who worked in the industry so I'm always down for hearing gossip
No. 30636
>>30610i still like some of the music but i despise the industry and the fandoms and i won't support or buy into it for that reason. i was an earlier fan who started liking it in the 2010s and while i still listen to songs i can't stand fandom culture and the
toxic industry and the behavior it breeds, and i'm totally willing to criticize it, won't pay for it, won't support it.
No. 30645
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>>30627i once saw this article and needless to say i was disgusted
https://www.allkpop.com/article/2019/01/netizens-discover-pre-debut-photos-of-bts-rm-with-cornrowswhen are they going to reveal what assholes they are through a controversy damnit
No. 30650
>>30648did i say anything about hair you annoying fuck i replied to the person wondering how his natural face looks like
how do you exist having no comprehension skills honestly it must be embarrassing
(autism) No. 30660
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>>30645Devil’s advocate, but he would have been a teenager here and so still has baby fat/awkward teen face.
Our best bet to find out what he looks like w/o fillers, facials and etc are enlistment photos. Let us pray that he isn’t exempted, the law doesn’t change before he enlists and gets stuck in public service, where fans will inevitably find him and snap a candid. The company can’t keep a tight hold on everything forever.
I cringe so bad every time I see this photo come up. Stick with the classics- pic related.
No. 30682
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People think this is fun instead of tragic wtf