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No. 28947
Rant about Kpop, its creepy fandoms, and/or its fucked up industry. Or just nitpick some idols.
· Don't sperg, complain or pick fights.
· Don't racebait.
· Don't derail about dumb shit. If it doesn't directly have to do with Kpop, don't post about it here.
· This thread is not about shipping or fangirling. Save that for the general kpop thread here:
>>>/m/11970 or the spam threads here:
>>>/m/1166 (boys) >>/m/14862 (girls)
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>>27045 No. 28953
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so we know about armies who are convinced that bh & bang shi hyuk are gods amoung men sent to rescue us all but what about armies who go the opposite way (like some of the ppl itt tbh.)
example: @btstarot on twitter
https://twitter.com/btstarot(don’t know what screen caps to post because there’s a lot of shit to shift through and don’t know if it’s particularly worthy)
personally i find it fascinating. this person is “predicting” a la tarot cards and “spiritual guides” a bts break up/bh lawsuit, bh causing an accident on purpose to hide the truth, etc.
lots of tinfoiling and annoying love for the ratman, iirc she believes that he’s adopted and his home is ~in America~ - screenshot sort of related
if you want to rot your brain and have nothing better to do, i recommend it
No. 28955
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>>28951Not sure about Dahyun though, she always looks so dead inside.
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>>28956so would i, honestly
basically this is a “kpop predictions” account. this person is predicting the end of bts, basically. she also thinks rat was adopted and his real home is in ‘murrica but i’m having trouble finding that post since the last time i checked this account so maybe it was deleted. the context is difficult to explain so you kind of have to read it all to get the full delusion.
flood of her predictions incoming, will sage
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part 2
No. 28966
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>>28965part infinity: the end
No. 28968
>>28960yeah, that twitter account is also interesting but slightly more grounded and probably more relevant
should have led with that oops
https://twitter.com/neoliveson/status/1118602380256346112a bunch of her threads on bh and shitman bang
No. 28972
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Im gonna need twice fans to stop posting this performance saying >dat ass and >dat jiggle in regards to dahyun
This comeback was a mistake. Making them go from pedo bait lolis to full on hooker attire and their fans are losing their minds(what little bit they had to lose in the first place).
No. 28974
>>28972>>28955I don't know if it is the same anon, but there is some anon here that has a big bias against Dahyun and I have no idea why. Keeps calling her a neanderthal and other stuff, when she's mostly harmless. She has no ass/jiggle, but not enough to keep bringing her up, imo.
Sage for slight rant/wk
No. 28978
Samefag but lolcow is spergy and not letting me reply correctly. By second anon I mean this post was me
>>28972, not in the order you quoted.
No. 28981
>>28977>>28978Sorry to drag you into this, as I said, I didn't know if it was the same anon or not.
I sperged a bit because yeah, it's a thread to nitpick too, but it's kind of annoying to keep bringing the same thing up (not the case of the ass, just how "ugly" she is), especially when it's pretty irrelevant and basically no one shills her.
Anyway, speaking of TWICE, I noticed that the side tracks are actually pretty different from their usual stuff. It seems like the girls had a bit of saying in the songs as well (it was brought up in past threads too), and this just kinda proves me they do want to change their ~totes kawaii~ personas, at least a bit.
Corporate probably won't allow it as main tracks, though. Or at least, they'll test their waters first with those b-sides.
No. 28989
>>28951Personally I find twice's smiles to be forced and robotic, plus the sheer number of members saves them from individual scrutiny - Mina, Momo and Tzuyu look just as dead on stage as BP most of the time but they get away with it because they have 5-6 other members to hide behind.
Tldr they are all overrated kek
No. 28991
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wow
No. 29000
>>28993For all the millions that twice is making jyp you'd think the company would know how to up the budget for "girl-crush" style MVs but apparently not…. they've changed outfits (which aren't that much shorter or tighter than their previous pedobait clothing btw) but they still sing like children with "I want you oppa" submissive lyrics.
As shit as YG is, they're very good at making Blackpink MVs look expensive. Red Velvet MVs are very well-produced and conceptualised (Russian Roulette, Peek-a-boo). Twice videos always look the cheapest out of all Big 3 groups even though they're making the most money.
No. 29004
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wtf
No. 29005
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The op and all the replies are armys, how surprising, and they keep saying "don't drag bts into this"
https://twitter.com/listenbts/status/1121992162571251713?s=19 No. 29008
>>29004The blatant infantalization in K-pop is so gross. Western boy bands/girl groups don’t typically go around wearing bonnets and carrying binkies and stuffed animals but that’s common at K-pop fansignings.
>>28992This all reads like some armchair psychologist stuff but your insight on Bom’s interesting and plausible. I remember watching some clips of Bom on Instagram live saying something like “Blackwho? Oh…I like BlackPink…they’re my sisters” very awkwardly when asked what she thought of BlackPink. She also made remarks where it seemed like she had issues with former 2NE1 fans who stop stanning her group after BlackPink debuted to leave.
No. 29009
>>29005I won't doubt that bharatanatyam is sacred for hindu indians, though i don't know much about it. I guess it's cultural appropriation when it's done by someone outside their own race/religion?
What bothers me is that bharatanatyam remix version of BTS does exist and no one bats an eye. Makes me think that OP (on twitter) only brought it up because it's jennie and we all know they've got some beef with blinks. I'd like to know OP's reaction to the video attached and see if they'd still rant about how sacred the dance is or shut up because it involves BTS.
No. 29016
>>29014Because even though Blackpink are also shit, they're taking severe attention away from BTS in some US metrics (ie playing at a major festival opposed to some boomer tv show) and that makes armys seethe. They spent so much time shitting on and burying EXO and Wanna One only for Blackpink to show up when BTS were 'breaking through to the West'
Also army love to use BTS wokeness, 'our poor discriminated asian bois' and all kinds of sjw shit as a cudgel to break them into the West, BLACKPINK doesn't have or need that as much, so BP (distinctly nonwoke) succeeding kind of exposes that as what it is (a scam)
No. 29018
>>29014Because Blackpink's popularity is a huge threat to BTS' fame in the west.
BP songs are light catchy dancepop which is the perfect sound for huge festivals like Coachella and the members are better English speakers - so far a lot of Western celebrities have noticed and praised BP, they only compliment BTS when asked to.
No. 29031
>>28977ntayrt but IMO your comment is baselesss, she doesn't look dead inside there. I know this is the thread for nitpicking but there's a difference between nitpicking and saying something that just isn't true.
It reminds me of when other anons call idols unattractive when they really aren't, and it's just baffling because you wonder if those people are from a city that's populated entirely by supermodels so they think the average person is GORGEOUS and call less-than-goreous people ugly.
Or when anons post a pic of an idol purposely making a weird faceand then call them fugly. Like yeah, they look weird there. That's the joke.
brb, making a kpop critical critical thread.
No. 29034
>>29031if you know this is the critical thread then why are you unloading your cum for dahyun here sweets
idols without the makeup and styling look disgusting - 90% of them - just because we are not blind to this fact doesn't mean we live in a place full of supermodels
even average people look better than idols where i live because at least thy are natural and have their own vibes instead of fake idols
please do go to the general kpop thread cuz this aint it
No. 29045
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I'll put an end to your guys' dahyun argument by reminding you who's actually notorious for looking dead inside when performing.
No. 29048
>>29044You aren't helping either, retard but I'll undo it and make this quick.
>>29031Pretty sure my opinion was as simple as saying that (I personally think that…) not all Twice girls are that energetic on stage, which is a very subjective opinion and totally different than the crime that you were accusing me of lmao. I wasn't even forcing anyone to agree with me. Stop overreacting.
No. 29049
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How can anyone deny it at this point? Her mid body and head are near the same width
No. 29054
>>29052That is true. I think one cannot really imagine the amount of pressure on women's looks unless they live in a country like that.
Every freaking body part is sexualised, evaluated separately and needs to look a certain way for a female idol to be considered attractive.
Vid related is seolhyun measuring the fucking depth of her members' collarbones.
It's insane.
Eating disorders are guaranteed if you're not strong-minded, regardless of whether you're an idol or not.
No. 29055
>>29053>Actual fans do not care about BP the way they care about BTS.it's because bts got most of their fans through social media, and is what they get clowned for in the us.
bp got most their fans through music. which is lucky because they'd be fucked if they had to build up based on their personalities.
No. 29058
>>29055i recall yg saying something similar about bts and bp's popularity. even bts themselves deny that their popularity is due to social media but it's the reality. it's a dead meme at this point but the
any armys here xd thing did blow them up.
No. 29061
>>29059I don't know if I'd call it a change. Their 'concept' is basically red velvet but way way toned down (generic pop basically). It's nothing different from a lot of the 'popular' groups at the time - right now it probably would be because everything is so stupidly beat heavy.
Kpop fans love generic pop.
No. 29063
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>>29054this video being AOA is even more horrifying given Jimin's recent state. She easily overtakes Hyuna, Sunmi, BlackPink, Wendy, with how worrying her appearance is right now. Part of that might just be that she doesn't get face fillers and hair extensions as often as they do though, K-pop styling can really help cover declining health. See how peak SNSD and Twice manage to look glowing and healthy when a regular girl would start to show some worries after years of being on the borderline of ill health
No. 29065
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>>29063holy christ this is nightmare fuel
No. 29066
>>28966Is the BTS struggle story armies sperg about true or exaggerated? Armies always talk about how BTS came from a small,poor,janky company but on bh's Wikipedia page it says that bh had a joint management with Yg…so..
Also when BTS debuted they always sold at least 200,000 copies or just under that (up until like 2014 when they changed their concept.) Which is pretty good for a group from a small company. Everything else they went through (debt, starvation, intense training,living in a shitty cramped dorm room) is not unique to them. Most if not all kpop groups went through at least one of those things.
No. 29071
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>>29054Does anyone remember when that girl JinE (pic related) left Oh My Girl because of anorexia? I was surprised her company made an official statement about it. That's the only time I've seen an ED being candidly discussed in kpop. It's fucked up but IIRC she was one of the least popular members so maybe the company figured people wouldn't care too much? Meanwhile there are idols who look even more sickly than her (jimin, Wendy, Rose) but nobody says anything
No. 29083
>>29081>white peopleStop being
triggered and go back to tumblr
No. 29085
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>>29081They also got accused of appropriating Native American culture by doing that dance with the ululation in boombayah, I'm surprised not many(especially armys) didn't talk about this.
No. 29102
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>>29085never forget the gloriously offensive native appropriation that was T-aras YaYaYa
man times sure were different back then people could get away with anything, kek
No. 29106
>>29066JYP, not YG.
Also Bang PD comes from a very rich family and has relatives in the Moon Jae-in administration….he has connections for sure
No. 29108
>>29005I feel a little bad that these people don't realize that no one in kpop cares about their issues.
How can they not see that kpop is the music industry of an isolated and fairly xenophobic country with minimal awareness of other cultures?
International kpop fandom is insane
No. 29113
>>29108With how obnoxious and down right awful Armies are, I don't feel too bad about them being played.
More than likely, they know what's going on but would rather turn the other cheek because then they would have to admit the thing they poured so much time, money, and energy into was actually everything they were supposedly against, which takes a certain amount of self-awareness and humility.
No. 29116
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god imagine how yanked and painful that ponytail must be when having to do this choreography
No. 29117
>>29114I don't necessarily agree with that stance but basically:
They refuse to learn English, bts members go back to kfans after international tour saying how much they missed them, apparently gifting kfans only,… at least that's what I got from reading this thread?
No. 29118
>>29117i dont understand why international fans would expect literally anything else lol
east asian groups typically dont GAF about western fans other than getting their money
its the same with japanese groups both pop and rock
No. 29123
>>29121Vocals really went out of the window there.
Honestly I don't see them having a good and supporting relationship - someone always gets treated better. Even in the ad campaigns (I think they got some makeup thing for Autumn recently?) the only person who looked good in all the photos was Jennie. Lisa is loved by the majority of the fandom, and Jisoo and Rose are sort of thrown to the side. Their entire relationship as a group sometimes comes off as widely competitive (Coachella performances) and generally that they don't get on (Blackpink house)
No. 29124
>>29121Not wking but I saw the clip of her talking to the audience and if it weren't for her nobody would've talked to the audience and it would've been awkward af cause the rest of them were just standing there, waiting for her to speak, and Jennie only managed to force out some words.
There might have been many fans but the rest of them literally have no idea who they are so someone's gotta hype it up a bit, even though it's a rather forced and awkward attempt at that.
No. 29126
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oof…idol cms are really something else nowadays
No. 29127
>>29117Yeah the refusal to learn English claim is weird to me. Because I know other members have tried speaking up before in previous interviews and they did fine. Learning English is hard and Korea doesn’t exactly have a good ESL model.
It seems that they’re quieter lately though? I’m wondering why?
Everyone knows by now that kpop is entirely controlled by their company so I wonder what they’re thinking. I don’t think BigHit is even hiring anyone or giving them time to learn…? So is that xenophobia or mismanagement? Or a little bit of both? Are the other members being told not to speak and leave everything up to RM? I don’t know what’s going on there.
Everything else can be chalked up to the usual Korean nationalist PR which all kpop groups suffer from.
No. 29134
>>29127Imo bts is terrible at English considering they have the largest international fanbase right now. RM is the only one who can speak it competently, and dominates every English interview.
I've noticed that many other groups have multiple fluent or semi-skilled English speakers when they have a much smaller international fandom. Ex- Momoland, Monsta X, NCT, g-idle, 2ne1…
I think they all have the choice to learn. And the free time to do so if they wanted, when they're not promoting.
No. 29135
>>29133i wouldn't be surprised if they could get in trouble for not treating her right
at 1:53 jennie seems to be rolling her eyes, lol i've always felt like there's some tension between her and rose
No. 29142
>>29134Idk. Suga and Jin seem to understand basic things.
I think maybe you’re overestimating how much “free time” they have. I think learning English to promote overseas should be part of the time they spend preparing for comebacks instead of a free time thing and I don’t know if that’s the case.
No. 29145
>>29142They all know a bit of English, but even when I was a fan I was noticing how they could barely put sentences together, whereas other groups had multiple members speaking competently in American interviews.
I think BTS said specifically that they had more free time than fans think. But you may be right - English should be taught to them as part of their work schedule. I don't think that's how it is but that would be a smart move on their company's part.
Or maybe it's a management thing and RM has been told to dominate interviews. This clip kind of makes me think that
No. 29146
>>29144It's annoying but I guess it's kind of sensible. They'll always just be a short-lived novelty in the West, and any Western momentum they manage to buy or build will be destroyed the second they have to go to the army and the press moves on to a newer, fresher foreign group to write clickbait about.
They'll never amount to anything more than a funny curiosity in America, while Korea will pour money into them far longer.
No. 29149
>>29148nta but I actually did used to be into BTS after they first debuted and I can confirm the way Jimin acted to that kid was gross.
The kid was about 12 and showing him how to properly clean airplane. Jimin did a bad job, so the kid said, "Oh, that's OK but it's better if you scrub harder, don't worry about damaging the plane."
In response to this Jimin said to the camera: "I want to beat that kid up for being so rude to me."
No. 29152
>>29145Even if they have more free time than fans think it’s probably not a lot when compared to what some Western countries think when time off is talked about. Anyway yeah I think personally that it’s a company problem and they’re not bothering with proper training or teaching and if they do, it’s seriously bad.
Corporate seems more interested in merch and fan service….
No. 29155
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>>29149Lol is this where this meme comes from?
No. 29157
>>29149Which part of isolated hermit country and teenage boy (from said isolated hermit country) did you not understand?
Wait, I forgot to add “teenage boy from isolated hermit country with an absurd age hierarchy deeply imbedded into the cultural consciousness.”
Jimin was dumb but so are you. Why are you expecting so much? Is it not the same as army thinking bts is aware of every cultural nuance?
No. 29161
>>29160> Even Korean men can understand threatening to beat up a 12 year old for very gently correcting them is fucked up.nta but disagree tbh
koreans are notorious for abusing younger people because ~muh seniority heirarchy~
No. 29164
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You all remember that one time a member who was supposed to debut in BlackPink got kicked out after being getting caught dating? Fortunately she got to debut in another group but it's funny how G-Dragon gets to notoriously fuck around with various models/idols over the years and YG doesn't give a fuck.
No. 29167
>>29164Iirc fans said dating wasn't the reason for her leaving but I don't know much about that. All I know is that the actually talented ones (Kim euna for example)have already left. She and moon sua were actually talented rappers but none of them made it. Instead they chose lazy Jennie who admitted that she literally got recruited as a rapper cause she was the only one who spoke good English there, which is funny considering how her stans brag about how she made it into yg because of her rapping skills.
It's also funny cause it implies that Jennie thought she was good enough to be a singer when she auditioned. (It's from that radio interview they recently did, if anyone is interested.)
No. 29171
>>29163Wait, is that because of the vlive where i-fans were spamming “look behind you” in broken Korean?
I’m on his side with that one. That’s annoying as fuck.
No. 29185
>>29174They look more real in that American photo posted in the past thread
>>28661. Especially Jennie and Lisa's true skintones
No. 29186
>>29183>you wouldn't get that in korea and it makes a differenceit isn't unheard of, bp do perform with the same yg band in all their korean concerts (just like bigbang and 2ne1 did).
lovelyz and highlight had a band for their concerts too.
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https://www.kpopmap.com/netizens-humiliate-red-velvet-joy-for-wearing-really-short-dress/>some netizens want to blame Joy instead and have been saying some pretty mean things, while one even went as far as to say she was a disgrace to the nation.So idols dont have any freedom at all at refusing an outfit even though it's too short (like this one)?
No. 29199
>>29197there are a lot of biased people here as well, anon.
While he isn't the best dancer, he does the choreography rather well. Stage presence mostly depends on the viewer, though. He has some flashy moves, so that's a plus. He's also close to the front-centre area during much of the dance, which may help in that regard. Really, you'll find him if you're looking for him.
No. 29200
>>29197He's actually a really good dancer, but I wouldn't say his stage presence is anything too special. I've seen people claim they're actually afraid of him when he's on stage, which is ridiculous considering he's like 5'7 and probably weighs less than most of his fans.
But he can go hard when he wants to and is better than most idols in that regard.
Also I feel like intense boy group concepts are easier for idols to pull off since they just have to look angry onstage, which seems a lot simpler than constantly smiling and trying to not look dead inside.
No. 29201
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this is gdragon tier
No. 29202
>>29199Lol I know there's a lot of biased people here too, that's why I said "might." Btw what do you think of the other members compared to him during the performance?
>>29200He is really bad at anything besides "intense" concepts actually, like chill or cheery concepts
>>29085That sound their making is middle eastern (ululation) but the movement is native american. Lmao can't even appropriate cultures right
>>29201Yikes
No. 29206
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Wait, nctniggers pls go. Stans who sperg about all the members who are more popular than their biases are pathetic, not critical.
No. 29223
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>>29198ok but the dresses and skirts twice have been performing in recently are just as short if not shorter so…its ok for them but not her? not sure i understand…
No. 29224
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I summon suga-chan
No. 29232
>>28949I'm late but this video will never not be funny for me
I lose my shit everytime Rose sings the bridge. Good shit
Thanks blackpink for existing lmao
No. 29233
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bitch i'm scared
No. 29248
>>29245
>fridge waist???
I know she doesn't have Tzuyu's level of tiny waist, but how is this a fridge? She's actually quite shapely.
The nitpicking ITT is reaching k-incel levels
No. 29252
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>>29248Nta but that dress didn't compliment her features, she looks best in jeans
No. 29259
>>29255she doesn't have a fridge waist tho?
not everyone can be rose the dancing skeleton, just saying
No. 29261
>>29257Lol true, and you feel like you have to write a defense statement or a disclaimer on why you're not a fan before saying something that's not overtly hateful, or correcting something.
It's still the only place for ex-fans to discuss the toxicity of kpop without being harassed by little kids so I'll deal with that.
No. 29269
Look at the amount of infighting
>>29268>>29259>>29254>>29255>>29252>>29248I shouldn't have posted this shit in the first place
>>29245 No. 29272
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Speaking of the Burning Sun stuff, what the fuck were these masks seized during the 윤중천 scandal preceding it? These were supposedly worn by high level officials. I used to think youtube conspiracy weirdos were crazy but now I'm not so sure
No. 29274
>>29272Not sure how legit it is, but in the west those kind of masks are used for sexual abuse, it's like some sick bondage torture fetish thing. Or if tinfoiling is allowed here, those kind of masks are used to induce trauma to the
victims (beta kitten sex programming) or for role-play purpose (bestiality, etc). Someone would probably ask me to "go back to vigilantcitizenforums" or something, but that's just my two cents.
No. 29276
I don't understand why people can't be fans of idols (I guess I'm mostly speaking about female ones since this it's mostly a problem with them) and talk about their obvious eating disorders and body weight problems. Why must they fool themselves into believing their beautiful and healthy? You're not being a bad fan or whatever so why don't you admit it?
Also offtopic but isn't it funny how idol concerts is mostly lip-syncing and relying on the (very loud) backtrack the whole time? Like you see people praising their idols like there's no tomorrow and I'm just like: that's lipsyncing tho…..
>>29274Your on to something, I'm pretty sure it's related to things like that
No. 29279
>>29276Kpop is built upon a belief that both the idols and the idol system are perfect. If people start talking about the flaws, it will ruin the illusion. Kpop fans are delusional enough to believe everything presented in front of them as they are.
Kpop fans are mostly made up of easily impressed teenagers (though there are many young adult and adult fans too). It gives them comfort to feel as if they "own" the idols. Simply put, they need someone to look up to, thus they expect the idols to be perfect and be everything that's different from their daily life. Of course you can't bring up normal people's problems into their "already-perfect" imagination.
On the lip syncing thing, I legit miss the 1st gen era stages (the no lipsync ones) where voices were permitted to shake on stage as long as the idols didn't fuck up the whole performance, and fans didn't complain about the bad performance because they knew that's bound to happen with no pre-recorded vocals/lipsync. It was more human.
No. 29281
>>29277Definitely
So nctzens are sperging right now, apparently nct were being filmed by a hispanic channel and the host made a fan kiss taeyong on the cheek. Of course now fans are crying about how "poor oppas they looked so uncomfortable!" and "asian culture is different from your culture how could you do that to him! Your so disrespectful!" "educate yourselves!" "ReSPeCt aSiAn cUlTuRe reeeee!"
No. 29292
>>29121What a bad performance. They weren't dancing, they barely did it because there were backup dancers behind them… and they didn't sing either, because you could clearly hear the recorded track. I could only hear Jennie's occasional yelling.
So if they didn't sing live and didn't dance either, what did they do? Just some jumps on the stage while looking pretty.
No. 29310
>>29224Suga-chan here.
I don’t know what you want us to say at this point. Something more happened to his face than just weight loss or gain. Whatever happened to his jaw, I think he’s still cute. He’ll be cuter when he’s actually healthy.
Suga-chan out.
No. 29312
>>29306Why can’t they just bring him in asap?
What the fuck is this “we’ll arrest him in a week or so…” bullshit? Do they give criminals a chance to turn themselves in to save face or what?
No. 29314
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>>29198Meanwhile male idols take their shirts off on the reg and get nothing but praise for it lol
Also idk if this is just a bad pic but this guy looks like geodude
No. 29315
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OG fridge waist Queen Fridgefany reporting for duty
No. 29320
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No. 29321
>>29279My main problem with the whole 'they're perfect' thing is the fact that saying they're too skinny is instantly branded as skinny-shaming and just because you don't like the idol or have said something about them before - you're an anti and you're just looking for flaws.
Honestly I don't particularly mind BTS shit singing when they dance because it's hard to dance and sing but at least they try. It's when they're doing nothing or avoid singing that it's an issue for me.
With Blackpink the whole issue is the fact that they're almost never live and when they are you will usually notice that Jennie is a mess. Rose can be horrible (no doubt) but at least she sounds similar.
No. 29322
>>29255you sperg about joy being a ~fridge body~ anytimes shes posted literally anywhere on this site not even just in this thread
its getting old tbh
No. 29323
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>>29320oof is that wendy?
No. 29324
>>29114Just wanted to add to what others said already: whenever they're filming in America they usually go to korean restaurants and/or talk about how much they miss korean food (which is something that other groups are also guilty of doing) - meaning while they're in the US, while the're making money off of american fans, they're still trying to please korean fans back home by sperging about muh superior korean food (and culture).
Now imagine some american artist only eating burgers when in Korea and whining about how much he misses mac'n cheese, how would his korean fans react?
No. 29327
>>29321For a main vocal rose seems very insecure in her singing and she almost always avoids higher notes or the more "difficult" parts although their songs are simple in terms of technicality and can be easily sung by other, better main vocalists.
Jennie on the other hand is too damn confident when she sings and it's time that her vocal coaches or whatever tell her that shouting doesn't mean you're singing high. And Jisoo's voice oftentimes sounds quite grating and maybe too mature…it just doesn't fit the songs they're singing.
Lisa's the only one left and she really isn't stated as a singer nor can she sing.
I don't get how they don't the same amount of criticism for their singing as twice tbh.
No. 29336
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>>29333christianity is surprisingly popular in south korea, especially compared to other east asian countries
No. 29344
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She looks older than her parents
No. 29345
>>29344potential milk: twice momo's father apparently is a hugeeeee fan of jihyo and apparently went to a lot of hitouches for her - which doesn't sound all that wholesome as onces made it out to be
also momo once said that she is envious of jihyo's big "eyes" once in yhy sketchbook - i mean momo is the serial bra stuffer in twice so
No. 29347
>>29344her parents are cute
she looks nothing like them honestly
i think shes ok looking too but i cant tell if its plastic or if she just doesnt share any traits
No. 29357
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rosé's torso looks like worm lmao
No. 29361
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>>29345I'm really impressed (is that the right word though?) by how many cup sizes idols can go up through various tricks.
why bother to wear push up and hip pads…just embrace your natural shape. It's not like the pressure to fit in is that big; their country isnt filled with girls who have insta-bodies with double d's.
No. 29363
>>29351I abhor how this part of the show is being used as some sort of "health" exam to see if these women are "fit" to be a cadet and yet the ones with normal BMIs are treated like absolute gluttonous traitors. How is someone like Lisa who has a BMI of 16 with no muscle tone at all any better than a woman who eats well and has a normal BMI?
Their standards are fucking sick and all of you ana-chans who are criticizing fridge waists on underweight women are contributing to them as well. The only people who need to be nitpicked about weight imo are the ones who are seriously disordered and need help.
Random thought but if YG didn't intervene with Bom's plastic surgery addiction and her mental health following her "scandal" then he isn't going to intervene with Rose's obvious eating disorder either.
No. 29365
>>29363fridge waists depend on bone structure jeez you can starve yourself to death but unless you have good bone structure you will be ugly - unless you get ribs taken out lol
so idols should just embrace however you are and not mediaplay
No. 29378
I went to the NCT127 concert in Atlanta, let me tell you my opinions and observations.
Ok, first, I'm in my early 30s,I took my little daughter, my husband was there also. I was in the front row, reserved seats on the right side of the stage so I was able to get a really good look at all of them.
It was completely packed and crazy hot in there, girls were dropping like flies. The employees had their work cut out for them.
So, the show was 3 hours. they had really high energy the whole way through, even though it was so hot. They all seemed to have a really good time performing that night and they ALL talked in English the whole time until the very very end when they said their feelings on the show, city, etc.
Most charismatic that night was Taeyong for sure. He was having a good time and it showed. I think they might actually like being in America, unlike some others.
Second one that stood out was Yuta, he had a really good show that night. Like I said, they all did good to me. I'm no expert on kpop shows but it was fun. It was obvious they were lip syncing some parts but overall it was live.
Jungwoo and Taeil were probably the ones that stood out the least, but they still did fine. Doyoung was the city ambassador member? He seemed to have had a genuine good time in Atlanta. Said he ate fried chicken and fried green tomatoes, lol.
Yuta saw my daughter waving to him and threw her a little ball with his signature on it, well he threw it to my husband.
Overall it was pretty good, and I was looking for things to criticize.
No. 29379
>>29363that and the amount they lie about weight on their profiles is also sick. Visually they fit beauty standards at 52kg anyway, yet they still have a need to write 42kg on their profiles to encourage a more unhealthy mindset to their fans.
It's also kind of sad how the guy tells Lisa she's very underweight and needs to gain weight, but we all know YG will never let that happen.
No. 29399
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>>29378 this just finalizes the fact that you ppl really are fans of group a and just want to come here stroke your hate boner for group b kek
No. 29406
>>29400Nepotism & corruption, same as most countries entertainment industries. Even the UK's music industry (once known for its social mobility) is 8 out of 10 rich spawn or Sylvia Young graduates now.
While this works for other countries and people blow smoke up rich kids asses, it doesn't work well for such a visual industry like k-pop - people think Umji and Chaeyeon are hideous
No. 29418
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>>29378Go back to the general thread
No. 29419
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Would these be forehead implants? Never seen anybody natural have a lump like that when you see them from a profile view
No. 29427
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>>29191sorry for beating a dead horse but i actually lol'd when the camera panned over from a healthy-looking high-energy jisoo to rose who's struggling to prance around on those meat sticks she calls legs like some kind of wounded animal
No. 29433
>>29333The pope literally went to south korea a few years back. Would make sense how repressed they are sexually and with this cult shit going on.
Korean christian cults are common. Very common.
No. 29434
>>29431I feel like it's been established that this thread is full of ex-K-pop fans and current K-pop fans who aren't complete SEAcucks and can bash without getting butthurt. Still there are three other threads dedicated to non-critical discussion and I don't understand why not just go there.
>>29378Jesus Christ, anon. Not only did you pay to go to a K-pop concert as an older mom but you also brought your kid with you? Double whammy.
No. 29436
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sana used to be pretty. what did she do to her face? she looks so bad now.
No. 29443
>>29427lmao what an iconic gif
It really looks kinda alarming… can't believe I wanted to look like an ana-chan when I was a teen
No. 29450
>>29447there was barely any criticism in your post and it read more like >i spent money to see these guys and they arent THAT bad you guys
which is your opinion and thats fine but you clearly dont understand the tone of this thread if you thought this was the place to post that without any criticism thrown your way…there are other threads where you can praise NCT its not that big of a deal, but anyone praising an idol in these threads gets called out pretty much, especially when the idols you are saying arent that bad, are the ones that it seems there are fans of who lurk in the threads just to say >see, they're not that bad their voice isnt that bad and their faces arent that bad
which has happened quite a bit recently
No. 29451
>>29450Your right, I didn't criticize them much, there. I guess I just thought maybe there would be some interest bc of how they compare to BTS or whatever. And other things.
But it turned into an ageist bash towards me somehow. Smh
No. 29454
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>>29451>using the term ageist unironicallyKEK gtfo, embarrassing joke-chan. You
are too fucken old to be spending money on boy groups who rely on their looks to make money at the very least and you deserve to be cyberboolied for it. I honestly don't know how you expected us to react.
No. 29455
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wow such energy and excitement
No. 29468
>>29466Rania was hardly R&B. They were stylized electro dance pop. I guess you can argue that when they drug Alex into the group they attempted to appear more "urban". But Id hardly consider their music R&B.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYvC6TmJql0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9lvgEXCSzATheir music was similar to some other groups at the time, 9muses, After School, Tiny G, Dal Shabet etc. Even The Boys from SNSD was a similar sound and Im pretty sure Teddy whatshisface was responsible for that too.
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No. 29476
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>>29474wont someone please think of the poor privileged rapists, sexual abusers, and woman beaters
No. 29483
>>29148>>29157Hermit country…? Jimin doesn't fucking come from the DPRK. The republic is one of the wealthiest countries on Earth with a completely internationally integrated economy and media. If Jimin doesn't know, his agency constantly whoring for foreign attention should.
There were Confucian works from the 1400s written from an anti-abuse perspective by yangban. People just ignore this stuff
No. 29485
>>29453Mark and Jaehyun, I think
Mark is Canadian
Jaehyun lived in the US for several years
Ten I think speaks English pretty well but he's Thai
No. 29490
>>29487yeah the only people delusional enough to think snsd still exists are mentally ill soshified forum posters
which is kind of funny because you'd think it would be the opposite
what happened to power of 9? how can you say snsd is still a collective group when they literally kicked out a member lol
No. 29512
>>29507The sexually
abusive father episode made me feel physically sick reading about it. Then I saw the actual episode and felt a thousand times worse. People trying to justify it as a cultural thing when the guy was touching the kid's privates for ten minutes at a time? Not to mention all the other heinous things he did to his family, and how he was rude to his wife. I don't know how anyone can justify that guests behavior in particular.
The rest of the episodes aren't much better.
No. 29517
>>29515>>29516From reading these threads. I've been here since the first one.
>NtaYou sure about that? You're projecting/defending pretty hard.
No. 29518
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What's happening ITT
No. 29519
>>29518NCT NCT NCT NCT NCT
It's like Hydra. Stop discussing one group and two worse ones come back into the thread.
No. 29520
no one cares about your NCT sperging and hate boners, can all of you fuck off already?
>>29481i knew they were obsessed with weighting under 50kg but every time i hear that again it's just…creepy as fuck, damn.
No. 29522
>>29466Agreed. And i feel like they only accept rnb songs that are super sexual and come from groups who have a certain sexy image.
Mamamoo's mature concepts in suits were only popular among women and still to this day they heavily rely on female fans.
I wish red velvet would start only doing the "velvet" thing now cause I actually really like seulgi's voice for that genre, especially in automatic. But it's just not as popular as bubblegum pop.
No. 29529
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>>29198If it was an issue wouldn't they just not publish the photo? They usually do that stuff over there don't they?
No. 29530
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>>29432same thoughts, anon. kubrick didn't die for nothing
too bad girls here are too busy CaNcEliNg armys tweets and blogposting about ntc or entertaining obvious jokesters
No. 29552
>>29455This is obviously slowmo.
>>29549I've never seen my hero but I think it's a reference to how that guy is surly and constantly wants to prove himself for the sake of his own inferiority complex or something like that.
>>29405The general thread is too boring. This one hogs all the milk and you can't talk about anything interesting in the general. There should be a midway thread where you can hate and fangirl at the same time.
No. 29560
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>>29558Couldn't find a "center vocalist" but i'm sure it's the equivalent of "lead vocalist"
No. 29574
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>>29281Here's a screencap of that
No. 29579
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Lmao. They really did take the video down just to crop out a sigh that had the word "lesbians" on it
No. 29580
>>29576That's what happens when there's only one who gets pushed or gets attention. When they leave there's no one else to carry the group.
A good example would be Astro where the public really only knows cha eunwoo.
That's why I think groups should all be equal in terms of talent, looks etc. if they wanna be there for the long run.
No. 29587
>>29567>idk why nobody posts there anymoreBecause it's not as popular as this thread. Do you notice how kpopfags love spamming their shit under popular unrelated videos and tweets? They hijack discussions and can't stay in their containment area. They want low effort maximum exposure and (You)s even if it's not relevant. This thread is no exception.
Examples:
>any armys here XD>random kpop gifs>hijacking a popular article or tweet with "OT: STREAM ____!!" No. 29603
>>29581this happens anytime a group or idol does something that goes ~viral~ or gets attention, a member of another group will start doing the same thing
from the things they wear at fanmeets, to the "idol came up with a new way to make a heart shape with their hand and now all the idols are doing it", to falling on stage etc
No. 29608
>>29606I check out their "indie" music sometimes but it's all so bland and repetitive to me. Everyone is all the same. No diversity
>>29603Like the heavy breathing "ending scene"
No. 29609
>>29608if you actually bothered to diversify your search then you would find plenty of indie bands with lots of genres but no i guess you just think fucking dean is indie
"everyone is all the same" you say as if you have checked more than 5 indie groups - just say your brain can't take anything more than bland kpop and go
No. 29610
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>>29608I don't think I'll ever understand how that dude from pd101 went viral for
thisHe lucked out so fucking hard
No. 29612
>>29611>you guys are the perverts for thinking in such a waythis is such a pedo/future pedo dogwhistle for me
anytime ANYONE says that I know they're a pedo or at least super complacent with pedophilia
No. 29615
and this is why having foreign idols in kpop is an absolutely stupid idea
this is what killed tiffanys career and shes not even fucking japanese
even if you are japanese, do NOT mention japan ever if you are in kpop, or you'll be fucked
https://www.allkpop.com/article/2019/04/twices-sana-criticized-for-her-japanese-post-on-the-end-of-the-heisei-era?fbclid=IwAR04m-Fx9kQaWDvJJc38U2MPGC5Cs73Q8_SMWyzbm3HBoZFZXL1mthOv8Fk No. 29617
>>29615Patheticcccccc
I've always wondered tho, do the jline of twice ever mention japan or anything?
No. 29619
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>>29615>have Japanese members>sing Japanese songs>promote in Japan???
No. 29621
>>29619you would think
but korean xenophobia is no joke idk why people keep trying to gloss it over or derail when its brought up
>b..but ALLLLLL countries are like this all countries do the same things korea does!!111!!! why is it being discussed in a thread specifically related to korean music!!!11??? No. 29622
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I used to think Sana was the prettiest in Twice but now she looks plastic
No. 29625
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>>29623I don't think that's it. She was blonde during the Cheer Up promotions, and that's when her popularity shot up. She still looks soft and youthful and not so TIGHT in the face.>>29623