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No. 28947

Rant about Kpop, its creepy fandoms, and/or its fucked up industry. Or just nitpick some idols.

· Don't sperg, complain or pick fights.
· Don't racebait.
· Don't derail about dumb shit. If it doesn't directly have to do with Kpop, don't post about it here.
· This thread is not about shipping or fangirling. Save that for the general kpop thread here: >>>/m/11970 or the spam threads here: >>>/m/1166 (boys) >>/m/14862 (girls)

previous thread: >>27045

No. 28948

>>28947
bless you anon for using this image for

No. 28949

this was probably posted in an earlier thread, but omg they really can't sing. jisoo and rose are worse than all of twice.

No. 28950

>>28949
Blackpink is seriously the worst group out of the popular three girls groups. Bad songs, bad styling, bad concepts, bad stage presence—just absolutely terrible. TWICE gets shit on a ton for their lack of talent and pedobait concepts, but I will give them credit for being better performers especially given that they’re working year round whereas BlackPink literally has less than a dozen songs out after over two years of existing. I also wouldn’t be this butter if Blackpink were just some unknown group, but the fact that they get paraded as the greatest thing since sliced bread is so unjustified and irksome.

No. 28951

>>28950
yeah every time i've seen a blackpink performance the girls always look like they don't wanna be there. it's like they never wanted to be idols in the first place. in red velvet only seulgi & wendy seem to be enjoying themselves. with twice all of the girls seem alive on stage and happy to be performing. i guess jyp is just better at picking trainees (although he can't train his idols to sing for shit).

No. 28952

>>28949
For real. Rosé sounds like a dying goat crossed with the welcome to my kitchen vine and Jisoo is basically completely tone deaf.

No. 28953

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so we know about armies who are convinced that bh & bang shi hyuk are gods amoung men sent to rescue us all but what about armies who go the opposite way (like some of the ppl itt tbh.)

example: @btstarot on twitter
https://twitter.com/btstarot
(don’t know what screen caps to post because there’s a lot of shit to shift through and don’t know if it’s particularly worthy)

personally i find it fascinating. this person is “predicting” a la tarot cards and “spiritual guides” a bts break up/bh lawsuit, bh causing an accident on purpose to hide the truth, etc.

lots of tinfoiling and annoying love for the ratman, iirc she believes that he’s adopted and his home is ~in America~ - screenshot sort of related

if you want to rot your brain and have nothing better to do, i recommend it

No. 28954

>>28947
I like this kind of pic better than the last one, serves the purpose of the thread

No. 28955

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>>28951
Not sure about Dahyun though, she always looks so dead inside.

No. 28956

>>28953

I'd like an explanation for this image.

No. 28958

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>>28956
so would i, honestly

basically this is a “kpop predictions” account. this person is predicting the end of bts, basically. she also thinks rat was adopted and his real home is in ‘murrica but i’m having trouble finding that post since the last time i checked this account so maybe it was deleted. the context is difficult to explain so you kind of have to read it all to get the full delusion.

flood of her predictions incoming, will sage

No. 28959

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part 2

No. 28960

>>28953
The post on her account about fansites working for kpop companies is kinda interesting.

No. 28961

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>>28959
part 3

No. 28962

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No. 28963

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>>28962
part 5

No. 28964

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>>28963
part 666

No. 28965

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>>28964
part 7

No. 28966

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>>28965
part infinity: the end

No. 28968

>>28960
yeah, that twitter account is also interesting but slightly more grounded and probably more relevant
should have led with that oops

https://twitter.com/neoliveson/status/1118602380256346112

a bunch of her threads on bh and shitman bang

No. 28969

>>28968
also has relevant posts on jang ja yeon and scandals

No. 28970

Idk how this version is "personalized for army" other than the army signage. "Army with Luv Version" sounds lame and cringey.

No. 28972

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Im gonna need twice fans to stop posting this performance saying >dat ass and >dat jiggle in regards to dahyun

This comeback was a mistake. Making them go from pedo bait lolis to full on hooker attire and their fans are losing their minds(what little bit they had to lose in the first place).

No. 28973

>>28968
this grown ass woman is a fucking FAG

No. 28974

>>28972
>>28955

I don't know if it is the same anon, but there is some anon here that has a big bias against Dahyun and I have no idea why. Keeps calling her a neanderthal and other stuff, when she's mostly harmless. She has no ass/jiggle, but not enough to keep bringing her up, imo.

Sage for slight rant/wk

No. 28977

>>28974
Im the second anon you quoted. The first wasnt me and this is the first time Ive posted about her specifically at least in awhile. My post was perfectly fine…This is a place to nitpick idols and their fanbases, is it not?

No. 28978

Samefag but lolcow is spergy and not letting me reply correctly. By second anon I mean this post was me >>28972, not in the order you quoted.

No. 28979

Sorry for incoming sperg.
Jennie is the most insufferable idol in the industry. She has absolutely no talent and is constantly praised for being “pretty”. I have a friend who is obsessed with Blackpink and is constantly screeching about how perfect she is. Ngl she has the bitchiest attitude I’ve ever seen and is constantly begging for attention. I watched one of their American interviews (don’t remember which one) and the whole time she just whined and put on a baby voice for attention. Blackpink has the most talentless girls yet for some reason their fans refuse to think they are anything but perfect lmao. They do nothing for themselves and have no talent other than “modeling.” It’s sad how fans idolize these girls.

No. 28980

>>28979
Some fans are turning on Jennie, slowly but surely. First the stage thing a couple days ago and then offending Indian people with her dance she did or whatever. And with the Texas concert being cancelled, the tide may already be turning.

No. 28981

>>28977
>>28978

Sorry to drag you into this, as I said, I didn't know if it was the same anon or not.
I sperged a bit because yeah, it's a thread to nitpick too, but it's kind of annoying to keep bringing the same thing up (not the case of the ass, just how "ugly" she is), especially when it's pretty irrelevant and basically no one shills her.

Anyway, speaking of TWICE, I noticed that the side tracks are actually pretty different from their usual stuff. It seems like the girls had a bit of saying in the songs as well (it was brought up in past threads too), and this just kinda proves me they do want to change their ~totes kawaii~ personas, at least a bit.

Corporate probably won't allow it as main tracks, though. Or at least, they'll test their waters first with those b-sides.

No. 28982

>>28972

What even? Where do they get these clothes?

No. 28983

>>28982
idk but it looks like they accidentally sent their dresses to a lundry mat instead of a dry cleaner and the dresses all shrunk

No. 28986

>>28981
I honestly agree. I genuinely didn’t mind their recent b sides. Usually they all kinda sound the same, but these were a bit different so I enjoyed them more. Unpopular opinion (?) But I also didn’t mind their comeback song. Idk. I feel like they are the least annoying girl group for me so maybe I’m just biased lol. The only thing I hated was the styling.

No. 28987

>>28951
shit you're right, specially Jisoo, she has no stage presence whatsoever, every time i look at a Blackpink performance itt i never notice her because damn she's so boring is hilarious, the others are awful on their own ways, like rose and lisa with their shitty singing/rapping and jennie being bad at literally everything else, but they at least fit Blackpink's concept, jisoo should've had stayed a model.

No. 28988

>>28987
the only thing jisoo has is a somewhat personality. Watching their appearances on those comedy shows or whatever, she seems like the only one who doesn’t put up that weird loli act. Otherwise she’s completely useless to the group as a performer. Idk how she has made it this far tbh.

No. 28989

>>28951
Personally I find twice's smiles to be forced and robotic, plus the sheer number of members saves them from individual scrutiny - Mina, Momo and Tzuyu look just as dead on stage as BP most of the time but they get away with it because they have 5-6 other members to hide behind.

Tldr they are all overrated kek

No. 28990

>>28988
In the idol world the answer always boils down to looks. Jisoo and the rest of Blackpink have had everything handed to them by YG because they're prettier than 2ne1.

No. 28991

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wow

No. 28992

>>28990
>because they're prettier than 2ne1.
Now that you mention it, I do think this is probably the case. YG sees them as the pretty 2ne1 he never had but always wanted. Reading about how he treated the girls in 2ne1 is horrid. Both Dara and Bom claim he put them down about their facial features and weight leading them to get more work done on their faces. He really marketed them as an non pretty anti-girlfriend/girl crush group. And now poor Bom is trying to come back instead of just gracefully bowing out and trying to live a normal life, probably because she sees Blackpink as the group she was supposed to have been and it gave her a renewed twinge of longing to experience idol life.

No. 28993

It's just me or twice's comeback felt like a Dalla Dalla reject with all those glitch effects and hideous, glittery, rainbow/black outfits and backgrounds? I mean, I know they both come from the same company but come on, I didn't survive Itzy's atrocious mv for this to happen again but with noisier vocals and even more pedobait

No. 28994

>>28989

Mina literally looks like she hates her life when she's on stage.

No. 28996

>>28994
If i was some talentless girl on some pedo group singing and dancing to childish songs while listening to the fanchants of thousand 40 years old creeps i would hate my life too tbh

No. 28997

>>28974
I'm the anon that wrote >28955 and I didn't write the other one. Dunno why the other anon brought up Dahyun out of nowhere. As for me, I only mentioned her cause the anon I was replying to said that "ALL Twice girls seem to be energetic on stage" but then I remembered Dahyun's dead stare. That's all, calm down. No need to make it like some kind of a big deal. Less complaining, more contributing.

No. 28998

>>28950
>>28951
The first 4 BP songs are alright but the talentlessness and awful flatness doesn't back up the mystique. The previews seemed way more exciting than what was offered. ITZY can't sing either but at least they can dance

No. 29000

>>28993
For all the millions that twice is making jyp you'd think the company would know how to up the budget for "girl-crush" style MVs but apparently not…. they've changed outfits (which aren't that much shorter or tighter than their previous pedobait clothing btw) but they still sing like children with "I want you oppa" submissive lyrics.

As shit as YG is, they're very good at making Blackpink MVs look expensive. Red Velvet MVs are very well-produced and conceptualised (Russian Roulette, Peek-a-boo). Twice videos always look the cheapest out of all Big 3 groups even though they're making the most money.

No. 29001

>>29000
I think they use too much cg for their mvs. the video for what is love didn't look that bad but they overdid it on the mv for yes or yes

No. 29002

>>29000
I think JYP is playing it safe as hell with TWICE because of the Miss A fiasco

No. 29003

>>29002
What happened to miss a? I used to really like them

No. 29004

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wtf

No. 29005

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The op and all the replies are armys, how surprising, and they keep saying "don't drag bts into this"

https://twitter.com/listenbts/status/1121992162571251713?s=19

No. 29006

>>29003
Suzy became too famous for her group and the members grew distant, plus half the group was Chinese so their promotions halted in 2016 anyway because of THAAD

No. 29007

>>29004
cringe. do these people buy hundreds of albums to make idols wear baby stuff? he knows what he's doing too

No. 29008

>>29004
The blatant infantalization in K-pop is so gross. Western boy bands/girl groups don’t typically go around wearing bonnets and carrying binkies and stuffed animals but that’s common at K-pop fansignings.

>>28992
This all reads like some armchair psychologist stuff but your insight on Bom’s interesting and plausible. I remember watching some clips of Bom on Instagram live saying something like “Blackwho? Oh…I like BlackPink…they’re my sisters” very awkwardly when asked what she thought of BlackPink. She also made remarks where it seemed like she had issues with former 2NE1 fans who stop stanning her group after BlackPink debuted to leave.

No. 29009

>>29005
I won't doubt that bharatanatyam is sacred for hindu indians, though i don't know much about it. I guess it's cultural appropriation when it's done by someone outside their own race/religion?

What bothers me is that bharatanatyam remix version of BTS does exist and no one bats an eye. Makes me think that OP (on twitter) only brought it up because it's jennie and we all know they've got some beef with blinks. I'd like to know OP's reaction to the video attached and see if they'd still rant about how sacred the dance is or shut up because it involves BTS.

No. 29010

>>29005
i see where they are coming from if it's a sacred dance but didn't bts also use african and latin elements in their songs and choreos? armys are only offended when other groups do it.

No. 29011

>>29008
I don't know how she actually feels about this but damn the awkwardness is real, it's obvious she might have some mixed feelings about blackpink imo, this is specially uncomfortable to see especially that "Blackjaks, rigth?, Blackjaks forever" bit, something's off

No. 29012

So this is easily one of the few, if not the only, BlackPink song that doesn't sound absolutely awful to me. It got me thinking to why that is and then I realized there isn't an awkward rap segment in this one like there are in many other K-pop tracks. Still nota single BlackPink member is a decent vocalist and that kills any chance of this song being replayable after a few listens.

No. 29013

>>29005
LOL its literally all just armies trying to ruin Blackpink. Not a single one isn't a BTS stan account

No. 29014

>>29013
why do they hate blackpink so much? afaik there is no beef between bp and bts themselves.

No. 29015

>>29014
Two reasons come to mind: (1) BlackPink is a popular K-pop group gaining traction in the US like BTS so there might be a sense of competition and (2) BlackPink is a group of stylish girls so there might be a sense of envy.

No. 29016

>>29014
Because even though Blackpink are also shit, they're taking severe attention away from BTS in some US metrics (ie playing at a major festival opposed to some boomer tv show) and that makes armys seethe. They spent so much time shitting on and burying EXO and Wanna One only for Blackpink to show up when BTS were 'breaking through to the West'
Also army love to use BTS wokeness, 'our poor discriminated asian bois' and all kinds of sjw shit as a cudgel to break them into the West, BLACKPINK doesn't have or need that as much, so BP (distinctly nonwoke) succeeding kind of exposes that as what it is (a scam)

No. 29017

>>29013
kek someone posted a pic of jimin culturally appropriating a native headpiece but no one bats an eye

No. 29018

>>29014
Because Blackpink's popularity is a huge threat to BTS' fame in the west.

BP songs are light catchy dancepop which is the perfect sound for huge festivals like Coachella and the members are better English speakers - so far a lot of Western celebrities have noticed and praised BP, they only compliment BTS when asked to.

No. 29019

>>29018
i think some of them are salty because almost everyone in bp speaks english and actually shows some effort to appreciate their i-fans but bts oppars couldn't get better than "thank you love you army!!!" for years and treat their k-fans way better than i-fans.

No. 29020

>>29009
It's somewhat comparable to singing praying the rosary for fun or doing bird dances. Sacred stuff is personal as hell.

No. 29022

>>29019
Now that's one of the things i seriously despise from bts, that shitty group wouldn't have gone anywhere if it wasn't for their crazy i-fans, armies are shit, but bts has an obvious favoritism based on xenophobia, you can't get any shittier than that, these ratmies should pay more attention every time they see oppa jimin looking notoriously uncomfortable around Americans on the awards instead of going "see?? our mochi hates the evul westerners show em oppa slayyyy!!!!111!", now they're crying for bts's attention.

No. 29023

>>29022
like when are i-ratmys gonna turn on bts ! i hope that moment comes

No. 29026

>>29023
Seriously why support Korean groups and give your money to Korea when the fans literally call you roaches over there lol

No. 29028

>>29005
There's a thread the size of a dissertation for this 5 second clip. I fucking hate twitter.

No. 29029

>>29023
Never. Ratmys will cuck for a crumb from BTS forever and Blinks are totally satisfied with shoddy amounts of bad content. No one as music fans cucks themselves harder than kpop fans

No. 29030

>>29005
That girl looks like she thinks all non whites and Koreans are disgusting

No. 29031

>>28977
ntayrt but IMO your comment is baselesss, she doesn't look dead inside there. I know this is the thread for nitpicking but there's a difference between nitpicking and saying something that just isn't true.

It reminds me of when other anons call idols unattractive when they really aren't, and it's just baffling because you wonder if those people are from a city that's populated entirely by supermodels so they think the average person is GORGEOUS and call less-than-goreous people ugly.

Or when anons post a pic of an idol purposely making a weird faceand then call them fugly. Like yeah, they look weird there. That's the joke.

brb, making a kpop critical critical thread.

No. 29032

Anyone else feel like BTS had potential as a unit before or am I looking back with rose-tinted glasses? This clip of them performing from years ago was an enjoyable watch (aside from Jimin questionable lifting up his shirt). Maybe the video might have been sped up to make their transitions look faster but I feel like they used to be better dancers before. Feels like they’re heading toward Big Bang territory with more lackluster choreo and they seriously could get away with not dancing anymore given their popularity now.

No. 29033

>>29030
that is cuz she does

No. 29034

>>29031
if you know this is the critical thread then why are you unloading your cum for dahyun here sweets

idols without the makeup and styling look disgusting - 90% of them - just because we are not blind to this fact doesn't mean we live in a place full of supermodels

even average people look better than idols where i live because at least thy are natural and have their own vibes instead of fake idols

please do go to the general kpop thread cuz this aint it

No. 29035

>>29032
of course they tried harder when they were nugus

No. 29036

>>29031
someone should ask the mods to do something about the nitpicking itt in /meta/. this thread would benifit from the no contribution rules /pt/ and /snow/ have.

No. 29037

>>29032
yeah, look at the basicness of boy with luv's choreo. i think becoming more focused on vocals, the mainstream pop sound and fake woke agenda made their stuff extremely generic and boring. most of the time they can't pull off vocal focused songs. their last listenable single was spring day.

No. 29043

Their figures look healthier lately. Ofc knetz call them fatasses

No. 29044

>>29042
>>29041
Nta but nice samefagging, autist. You aren't helping your case.

No. 29045

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I'll put an end to your guys' dahyun argument by reminding you who's actually notorious for looking dead inside when performing.

No. 29046

>>29036
i already asked two threads ago, when seungri drama was peaking and anons chose to sperg over inane shit instead. the thread is full of mongs from twitter

No. 29048

>>29044
You aren't helping either, retard but I'll undo it and make this quick.

>>29031
Pretty sure my opinion was as simple as saying that (I personally think that…) not all Twice girls are that energetic on stage, which is a very subjective opinion and totally different than the crime that you were accusing me of lmao. I wasn't even forcing anyone to agree with me. Stop overreacting.

No. 29049

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How can anyone deny it at this point? Her mid body and head are near the same width

No. 29051

>>29045
That anon would still attack you for saying Mina looks dead, when that is just one harmless opinion that no one gives a fuck of. But holy shit, you're right she must be the dead-est out of all twice kek.

No. 29052

>>29049
because that’s the case for a lot of idols? when the standard is to be incredibly thin it’s less noticeable when one or two girls in every group is a bit skinnier. momoland are one of the only groups that come to mind right away for a group that doesn’t have at least have a borderline skelly. blackpink aren’t some crazy anomaly that are far skinnier compared to other groups, they’re just dressed to emphasise it more and have rosé whose weird shape in general makes her look even more uncanny

No. 29053

>>29018
No way… BP's "progress" in the US market is built almost exclusively out of CL-esque pushing by interscope records. It'll end the same way as CL's career due to them not having any organic traction. Actual fans do not care about BP the way they care about BTS.

No. 29054

>>29052
That is true. I think one cannot really imagine the amount of pressure on women's looks unless they live in a country like that.
Every freaking body part is sexualised, evaluated separately and needs to look a certain way for a female idol to be considered attractive.
Vid related is seolhyun measuring the fucking depth of her members' collarbones.
It's insane.
Eating disorders are guaranteed if you're not strong-minded, regardless of whether you're an idol or not.

No. 29055

>>29053
>Actual fans do not care about BP the way they care about BTS.
it's because bts got most of their fans through social media, and is what they get clowned for in the us.

bp got most their fans through music. which is lucky because they'd be fucked if they had to build up based on their personalities.

No. 29058

>>29055
i recall yg saying something similar about bts and bp's popularity. even bts themselves deny that their popularity is due to social media but it's the reality. it's a dead meme at this point but the any armys here xd thing did blow them up.

No. 29059

>>29055
from what i remember, when blackpink debuted it was a change from what the other top girlgroups (twice, red velvet, gfriend etc) were doing at the time, so i think their music style immediately got attention for that (as well as being YG's new gg). But since so many other groups now fill their niche and they aren't releasing much or stepping up their content, i think people are caring less and less (apart from blinks obviously).

No. 29061

>>29059
I don't know if I'd call it a change. Their 'concept' is basically red velvet but way way toned down (generic pop basically). It's nothing different from a lot of the 'popular' groups at the time - right now it probably would be because everything is so stupidly beat heavy.

Kpop fans love generic pop.

No. 29063

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>>29054
this video being AOA is even more horrifying given Jimin's recent state. She easily overtakes Hyuna, Sunmi, BlackPink, Wendy, with how worrying her appearance is right now. Part of that might just be that she doesn't get face fillers and hair extensions as often as they do though, K-pop styling can really help cover declining health. See how peak SNSD and Twice manage to look glowing and healthy when a regular girl would start to show some worries after years of being on the borderline of ill health

No. 29065

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>>29063
holy christ this is nightmare fuel

No. 29066

>>28966
Is the BTS struggle story armies sperg about true or exaggerated? Armies always talk about how BTS came from a small,poor,janky company but on bh's Wikipedia page it says that bh had a joint management with Yg…so..

Also when BTS debuted they always sold at least 200,000 copies or just under that (up until like 2014 when they changed their concept.) Which is pretty good for a group from a small company. Everything else they went through (debt, starvation, intense training,living in a shitty cramped dorm room) is not unique to them. Most if not all kpop groups went through at least one of those things.

No. 29067

>>29066
Same fag I'm a fucking retard I didn't mean to mention anybody in my post

No. 29068

>>28970
The only difference I see is Halsey having more lines and onscreen time

No. 29069

Lmao nct's concerts are basically taeyong's concerts with his backup singers and dancers. Seriously, everything is centered around him. What a terrible group

No. 29070

>>29068
i don't like her at all but halsey looks cuter than everyone in bts in the video

No. 29071

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>>29054
Does anyone remember when that girl JinE (pic related) left Oh My Girl because of anorexia? I was surprised her company made an official statement about it. That's the only time I've seen an ED being candidly discussed in kpop. It's fucked up but IIRC she was one of the least popular members so maybe the company figured people wouldn't care too much? Meanwhile there are idols who look even more sickly than her (jimin, Wendy, Rose) but nobody says anything

No. 29072

>>29048
>You aren't helping either
Of course I'm not, why would I? The other anon you replied to is right.

No. 29076

>>29071
IU talked about being bulimic, and is since supposedly recovered despite often being much thinner than she was at the time she says she was struggling. I’d get it if her current lowest was still a healthy weight, but I don’t think you can believe she’s recovered and healthy now if she’s still often visibly underweight and likes to show it off

No. 29077

Idols visibly struggling with an ED and nobody caring about it, or even praising them for their weight is so disgusting. Sometimes I wonder if the idols themselves enjoy showing off their weight like Luna and Hyuna (the scale picture). It's horrible and the kids who follow kpop end up thinking that starving themselves is the way to look as pretty as their idols.

No. 29078

>>29077
You'd be a fool to think most idols don't love being underweight.

No. 29079

>>29005
It doesn’t look like she’s mocking the dance, it just looks like she’s having fun. I understand being upset if someone is truly mocking your religion/culture/etc., but this is a reach.

No. 29081

>>29079
i mean white people also are ''just having fun'' when they pull their eyes sideways to mock asians

No. 29083

>>29081
>white people
Stop being triggered and go back to tumblr

No. 29084

>>29069
that's because he's the center of the group… and every single group has a center. you dumbass

No. 29085

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>>29081
They also got accused of appropriating Native American culture by doing that dance with the ululation in boombayah, I'm surprised not many(especially armys) didn't talk about this.

No. 29086

>>29071
>but no one says anything
I agree Rose is pushed under the rug but knetz talk about Wendys weight every comeback. And they only time Jimin's name is in articles is about her weight. She was trending on Naver bc of her IG pics. Idk why blackpink gets a pass from fans for being ana but no one really seems to notice or care with them

No. 29087

>>29084
there's a difference between being a centre and being the star of the show while half of your bandmates barely get a line to shout

No. 29088

>>29085
is it really a native american specific thing? from my knowledge it is also a prominent thing in central asian and west asian folk dances. maybe it's a thing in east asia too idk

No. 29102

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>>29085
never forget the gloriously offensive native appropriation that was T-aras YaYaYa

man times sure were different back then people could get away with anything, kek

No. 29104

>>29102
I just watched the mv. They for sure would be eaten alive if they released something like that now.

No. 29105

>>29104
its a catchy song but its hands down one of, if not the most blatantly offensive kpop videos and concepts ive ever seen

No. 29106

>>29066
JYP, not YG.

Also Bang PD comes from a very rich family and has relatives in the Moon Jae-in administration….he has connections for sure

No. 29108

>>29005
I feel a little bad that these people don't realize that no one in kpop cares about their issues.
How can they not see that kpop is the music industry of an isolated and fairly xenophobic country with minimal awareness of other cultures?
International kpop fandom is insane

No. 29113

>>29108
With how obnoxious and down right awful Armies are, I don't feel too bad about them being played.

More than likely, they know what's going on but would rather turn the other cheek because then they would have to admit the thing they poured so much time, money, and energy into was actually everything they were supposedly against, which takes a certain amount of self-awareness and humility.

No. 29114

I see a lot of ~BTS/BigHit is xenophobic~ and hates i-fans around here but I don’t think I’ve seen specific instances?

Tried google but it’s just army taking up space.
Can anyone fill me in?

No. 29116

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god imagine how yanked and painful that ponytail must be when having to do this choreography

No. 29117

>>29114
I don't necessarily agree with that stance but basically:
They refuse to learn English, bts members go back to kfans after international tour saying how much they missed them, apparently gifting kfans only,… at least that's what I got from reading this thread?

No. 29118

>>29117
i dont understand why international fans would expect literally anything else lol
east asian groups typically dont GAF about western fans other than getting their money
its the same with japanese groups both pop and rock

No. 29119

>>29117
>Implying this thread is a trustworthy sauce of info in any way

No. 29120

>>29118
Same with all their fans

No. 29121

rose is such a try hard it's borderline embarrassing to see. especially when miss sea does nothing and is more popular

No. 29123

>>29121
Vocals really went out of the window there.

Honestly I don't see them having a good and supporting relationship - someone always gets treated better. Even in the ad campaigns (I think they got some makeup thing for Autumn recently?) the only person who looked good in all the photos was Jennie. Lisa is loved by the majority of the fandom, and Jisoo and Rose are sort of thrown to the side. Their entire relationship as a group sometimes comes off as widely competitive (Coachella performances) and generally that they don't get on (Blackpink house)

No. 29124

>>29121
Not wking but I saw the clip of her talking to the audience and if it weren't for her nobody would've talked to the audience and it would've been awkward af cause the rest of them were just standing there, waiting for her to speak, and Jennie only managed to force out some words.
There might have been many fans but the rest of them literally have no idea who they are so someone's gotta hype it up a bit, even though it's a rather forced and awkward attempt at that.

No. 29126

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oof…idol cms are really something else nowadays

No. 29127

>>29117
Yeah the refusal to learn English claim is weird to me. Because I know other members have tried speaking up before in previous interviews and they did fine. Learning English is hard and Korea doesn’t exactly have a good ESL model.
It seems that they’re quieter lately though? I’m wondering why?
Everyone knows by now that kpop is entirely controlled by their company so I wonder what they’re thinking. I don’t think BigHit is even hiring anyone or giving them time to learn…? So is that xenophobia or mismanagement? Or a little bit of both? Are the other members being told not to speak and leave everything up to RM? I don’t know what’s going on there.

Everything else can be chalked up to the usual Korean nationalist PR which all kpop groups suffer from.

No. 29128

Well in the grand scheme of things all blackpink members are massively popular. I don't think it's as much as an issue as most farmers believe

No. 29129

>>29119
Anon don’t kill my hope that someone intelligent might come along one day

No. 29131

>>29121
The blatant Jennie favoritism never ceases to amaze me. She's in a bright shimmering silver outfit while the other girls are in black. I imagine there's so much tension between them when they're always doing shit like that.

No. 29133

>>29131
I thought so too but looking at the rest of the girls it seems that none of them have that sort of ambition to stand out individually as much as Jennie does. They don't seem passive aggressive either in interviews and stuff and always compliment her. But of course it's just what they give us to see…who knows what goes on behind closed doors.

No. 29134

>>29127
Imo bts is terrible at English considering they have the largest international fanbase right now. RM is the only one who can speak it competently, and dominates every English interview.
I've noticed that many other groups have multiple fluent or semi-skilled English speakers when they have a much smaller international fandom. Ex- Momoland, Monsta X, NCT, g-idle, 2ne1…
I think they all have the choice to learn. And the free time to do so if they wanted, when they're not promoting.

No. 29135

>>29133
i wouldn't be surprised if they could get in trouble for not treating her right

at 1:53 jennie seems to be rolling her eyes, lol i've always felt like there's some tension between her and rose

No. 29136

>>29135
Lmfao anon you have eagle eyes. How tf did you notice that. I'm impressed.

No. 29137

>>29134
i was buying the “english is so hard for oppa learning it is practically imposible and he is vv busy uwuwu” until i stumbled on a got7 youtube interview thing (the only thing i know about them is that they are with jyp) and was shocked that they actually speaked and participated ?? no perfect english but they formed basic and logical sentences ? what is stopping bts?

No. 29138

>>29137
>what is stopping bts
not actually wanting to be in america and just wanting to fuck off back to korea to their korean fans who spend thousands of dollars on them monthly

No. 29139

>>29137
Not to defend them but your post is quite ironical

No. 29140

>>29139
Anon isn't refusing to type in English and relying on other anons to translate for them, unlike BTS. Imperfect as anon's English is, at least they're trying

No. 29141

>>29138
To me it also seems like bighit and bts can't believe their own luck so they refrain from doing or saying anything even slightly off/controversial that's why the others rarely speak because they wanna avoid misunderstandings (but yes, they also don't care about improving their English).

No. 29142

>>29134
Idk. Suga and Jin seem to understand basic things.

I think maybe you’re overestimating how much “free time” they have. I think learning English to promote overseas should be part of the time they spend preparing for comebacks instead of a free time thing and I don’t know if that’s the case.

No. 29143

>>29137
Yeah, BTS was a bit more vocal just before and during DNA and then it fell off so idk.

No. 29144

>>29114
they refuse to learn english despite owing their career to i-fans, always talk about how much they miss their korean fans just after leaving korea, buy their korean fans gifts and stuff. they are very nationalistic with the whole "we are proud korean artists!!" thing and jimin's hiroshima tshirt scandal. they also expect foreigners to behave the way korean society is, like how jimin wanted to beat up an american kid for telling him how to do something correctly. most of them look like they want to die in when they are in the presence of i-fans, they are so ungrateful.

No. 29145

>>29142
They all know a bit of English, but even when I was a fan I was noticing how they could barely put sentences together, whereas other groups had multiple members speaking competently in American interviews.
I think BTS said specifically that they had more free time than fans think. But you may be right - English should be taught to them as part of their work schedule. I don't think that's how it is but that would be a smart move on their company's part.
Or maybe it's a management thing and RM has been told to dominate interviews. This clip kind of makes me think that

No. 29146

>>29144
It's annoying but I guess it's kind of sensible. They'll always just be a short-lived novelty in the West, and any Western momentum they manage to buy or build will be destroyed the second they have to go to the army and the press moves on to a newer, fresher foreign group to write clickbait about.

They'll never amount to anything more than a funny curiosity in America, while Korea will pour money into them far longer.

No. 29147

>>29134
i didn't realize just how sulky and sullen bts seem in western interviews until i watched monsta x and nct's interviews. most of monsta x don't speak very good english, but they're much more enthusiastic and willing to try, instead of just sitting there silently looking like they think they're better than non-koreans.

No. 29148

>>29144
>”THEY REFUSE” like they’re stomping around and throwing tantrums about it
>expecting a teenage boy from an isolated hermit country to understand and react appropriately while in a foreign country he’s never set foot in before and probably experiencing some culture shock
>”looking like they want to die” and attributing it to the fact that they absolutely hate hate hate i-fans and Murica instead of an infinite amount of other reasons

Nta but you sound like a bitter rogue army

No. 29149

>>29148
nta but I actually did used to be into BTS after they first debuted and I can confirm the way Jimin acted to that kid was gross.

The kid was about 12 and showing him how to properly clean airplane. Jimin did a bad job, so the kid said, "Oh, that's OK but it's better if you scrub harder, don't worry about damaging the plane."

In response to this Jimin said to the camera: "I want to beat that kid up for being so rude to me."

No. 29150

>>29148
bts might have broken a record by being to america 50 times yet still not being able to handle a simple conversation in english for shit. they are either extremely dumb and lazy or just xenophobic and ungrateful.

No. 29151

>>29149
even if it was supposed to be a joke that's fucked up to talk about a child like that…

No. 29152

>>29145
Even if they have more free time than fans think it’s probably not a lot when compared to what some Western countries think when time off is talked about. Anyway yeah I think personally that it’s a company problem and they’re not bothering with proper training or teaching and if they do, it’s seriously bad.
Corporate seems more interested in merch and fan service….

No. 29153

>>29149
And if he was in Korea and the kid had been Korean, he probably would have gotten violent with him with no repercussions. Because Koreans think if they are older than someone they can beat and hit them and its perfectly fine and normal. Especially if someone younger than them has an opinion or tells them how to do something.

No. 29154

>>29150
really telling how they behave. if you compare bp's tv appearences, even jisoo squeezes some sentences out. i don't follow bts and normally don't care about them, but is only ratmon talking at their concerts abroad? most artists memorize at least a few sentences in english.

No. 29155

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>>29149
Lol is this where this meme comes from?

No. 29156

>>29155
It sure is. And it was obvious by his face he wasn't joking.

No. 29157

>>29149
Which part of isolated hermit country and teenage boy (from said isolated hermit country) did you not understand?
Wait, I forgot to add “teenage boy from isolated hermit country with an absurd age hierarchy deeply imbedded into the cultural consciousness.”

Jimin was dumb but so are you. Why are you expecting so much? Is it not the same as army thinking bts is aware of every cultural nuance?

No. 29158

>>29147
I agree. I watched some Monsta X interviews and they're way nicer than BTS. They are more enthusiastic and can speak decent english.

No. 29159

>>29135
Wow that's a super observant observation. From what I've heard from BlackPink fans, there's a clear divide between Jisoo + Jennie versus Lisa + Rose relationship-wise. I wouldn't be surprised since Jennie seems to make fun of Lisa a lot and I don't know if it's just light teasing.

No. 29160

>>29157
Calm down Jimincel. Even Korean men can understand threatening to beat up a 12 year old for very gently correcting them is fucked up.

No. 29161

>>29160
> Even Korean men can understand threatening to beat up a 12 year old for very gently correcting them is fucked up.
nta but disagree tbh
koreans are notorious for abusing younger people because ~muh seniority heirarchy~

No. 29163

>>29157
It still doesn't make it okay? He probably still has the same mindset but is just keeping quiet. His Hiroshima bomb t-shirt controversy wasn't too long ago. I'm getting extreme nationalist vibes from him and V. iirc Suga talked some shit about international fans too. Rap Monster and Jungkook are ameriboos. Dunno about the others

No. 29164

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You all remember that one time a member who was supposed to debut in BlackPink got kicked out after being getting caught dating? Fortunately she got to debut in another group but it's funny how G-Dragon gets to notoriously fuck around with various models/idols over the years and YG doesn't give a fuck.

No. 29165

>>29164
took me a minute to figure out who anyone in this picture was other than jennie

No. 29166

When fans are putting more effort into their vocals than Jennie. Also that like to dislike ratio kek

No. 29167

>>29164
Iirc fans said dating wasn't the reason for her leaving but I don't know much about that. All I know is that the actually talented ones (Kim euna for example)have already left. She and moon sua were actually talented rappers but none of them made it. Instead they chose lazy Jennie who admitted that she literally got recruited as a rapper cause she was the only one who spoke good English there, which is funny considering how her stans brag about how she made it into yg because of her rapping skills.
It's also funny cause it implies that Jennie thought she was good enough to be a singer when she auditioned. (It's from that radio interview they recently did, if anyone is interested.)

No. 29169

>>29164
i thought she was kicked out due to yg not wanting to copy rv

No. 29170

>>29169
If that's the reason, YG failed either way. The group still would have four Yeris even if they debuted with five members.

No. 29171

>>29163
Wait, is that because of the vlive where i-fans were spamming “look behind you” in broken Korean?
I’m on his side with that one. That’s annoying as fuck.

No. 29173

>>29170
he already copied the "they have two types of songs" shit that sm pulled with rv but never go through with

No. 29174

>>29164

Seeing BP (kind of) pre-surgery and skin whitening makes me so…sad? They look like normal human beings in this pic. I don't get kpop's insistence on turning their idols into ghostly-looking bobbleheads.

No. 29175

>>29174
They already had all the PS procedures already done in that picture. Lisa has her nose done, Rosé with the jaw shave… idols start getting PS early in their trainee days, you wouldn't catch them in a group photo with their real faces

No. 29176

>>29174
They look the same but in different lighting to me

No. 29178

>>29164
isn’t the fifth girl miyeon from gidle?

No. 29181

that prolapsed anus of a thread pic

No. 29182

>>29178
Yeah that's Miyeon. Again it's fortunate that she got to debut in a group that's doing okay, but I'd understand if she's pissed at YG and BlackPink by extension. Working hard and training every day to debut only to get axed because of that. She very well could have been cast aside without debuting after what happened to her.

No. 29183

>>29121
you can just tell they got coached by their handlers on how to deliver an american performance but they still look painfully out of their element. stage presence = 0, giving me walking around your room lip syncing with a hair brush. the lack of camera trickery really highlights how sloppy and rudimentary the choreography is. the only thing i appreciate about this is the live backing band. you wouldn't get that in korea and it makes a difference

No. 29185

>>29174
They look more real in that American photo posted in the past thread >>28661. Especially Jennie and Lisa's true skintones

No. 29186

>>29183
>you wouldn't get that in korea and it makes a difference
it isn't unheard of, bp do perform with the same yg band in all their korean concerts (just like bigbang and 2ne1 did).
lovelyz and highlight had a band for their concerts too.

No. 29188

I think Blackpink are a horrible act live and can't sing but I can see why they stand out compared to other girlgroups in terms of branding. Jennie has that guttural braying tone, Lisa sounds like a mosquito or CL on uppers, Jisoo sounds like Miss Hannigan and ROSE has the bannaney avocadoess voice. You can't confuse their voices, sometimes its possible to confuse Jisoo and Jennie because they're both mezzo-like but not really anything else?

Tons of girlgroups since 2014 have suffered samevoice syndrome and it's even worse when they're all crap singers. That new group EVERGLOW is horrific - better song so far than BP but the voices all merge into one whine. Boygroups are even worse they're all nayana.exe

No. 29191

their concerts are such a mess..

No. 29196

>>29188
The only good thing about bp's vocals is that they sound distinct compared to most other ggs

No. 29197

Ok I swear I'm not a taeyong stan or anything like that but fans are always praising his "stage presence" and dancing like crazy so I just want some (un-biased) opinions on it and this might be one of the only places to get that

No. 29198

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https://www.kpopmap.com/netizens-humiliate-red-velvet-joy-for-wearing-really-short-dress/
>some netizens want to blame Joy instead and have been saying some pretty mean things, while one even went as far as to say she was a disgrace to the nation.

So idols dont have any freedom at all at refusing an outfit even though it's too short (like this one)?

No. 29199

>>29197

there are a lot of biased people here as well, anon.

While he isn't the best dancer, he does the choreography rather well. Stage presence mostly depends on the viewer, though. He has some flashy moves, so that's a plus. He's also close to the front-centre area during much of the dance, which may help in that regard. Really, you'll find him if you're looking for him.

No. 29200

>>29197
He's actually a really good dancer, but I wouldn't say his stage presence is anything too special. I've seen people claim they're actually afraid of him when he's on stage, which is ridiculous considering he's like 5'7 and probably weighs less than most of his fans.
But he can go hard when he wants to and is better than most idols in that regard.
Also I feel like intense boy group concepts are easier for idols to pull off since they just have to look angry onstage, which seems a lot simpler than constantly smiling and trying to not look dead inside.

No. 29201

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this is gdragon tier

No. 29202

>>29199
Lol I know there's a lot of biased people here too, that's why I said "might." Btw what do you think of the other members compared to him during the performance?
>>29200
He is really bad at anything besides "intense" concepts actually, like chill or cheery concepts
>>29085
That sound their making is middle eastern (ululation) but the movement is native american. Lmao can't even appropriate cultures right
>>29201
Yikes

No. 29203

>>29201
she looks like a geometric shape

No. 29204

>>29197
he's the only one who stands out at all on stage to normies

No. 29205

>>29197
He's a good dancer when he is dancing the choregraphy but his freestyle dances are really bad and meme worthy.

No. 29206

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Wait, nctniggers pls go. Stans who sperg about all the members who are more popular than their biases are pathetic, not critical.

No. 29207

>>29206
I don't know what your complaining about all those anons just said he is a good dancer that's really it. You act like their fangirling about him or something. Anons like you are annoying.

No. 29209

>>29207
I'm not talking about them, I'm talking about like >>29202

No. 29210

>>29207
If it isn’t hating kpop with a boner, it ain’t critical

No. 29212

>>29198
joy does give me sulli vibes, but i doubt she picked that dress out herself. it's obvious these netizens are just jealous of her body. they can't take it when a woman isn't skelly.

No. 29223

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>>29198
ok but the dresses and skirts twice have been performing in recently are just as short if not shorter so…its ok for them but not her? not sure i understand…

No. 29224

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I summon suga-chan

No. 29225

>>29196
Yeah, ear rape really is distinct.

No. 29230

>>29224
All the yoongifags were going on about how he was too spoopy and how his new jaw shave fucked him up back then kek do they like pudgy nuyoongi?

No. 29231

>>29223
I cringed at her expression

No. 29232

>>28949
I'm late but this video will never not be funny for me
I lose my shit everytime Rose sings the bridge. Good shit
Thanks blackpink for existing lmao

No. 29233

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bitch i'm scared

No. 29234

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No. 29235

>>29224
did his cheeks look like that because of the weird jaw surgery he got or weight loss?

No. 29236

>>29233
Man feet

No. 29243

>>29188
me too wtf, i liked Everglow's song but their bland, boring voices all sounded the same and it killed the song for me, kpop it's so cookie-cutter it cannot literally have any decent tracks without actively ruining them with some boring generic shit that sucks out the potential of said tracks smfh

No. 29244

>>29224
He looks like a fakeboi, tragic.

No. 29245

>>29212
is her body really worth being jealous over lmfao - she has a fridge waist and it is not a good look she is tall but her proportions aren't good enough to make her look as tall as she is

No. 29246

>>29244
idk what went wrong but all of them look like fakebois nowadays

No. 29247

>>29235
Probably both, but the ps is definitely major

No. 29248

>>29245

>fridge waist


???
I know she doesn't have Tzuyu's level of tiny waist, but how is this a fridge? She's actually quite shapely.

The nitpicking ITT is reaching k-incel levels

No. 29252

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>>29248
Nta but that dress didn't compliment her features, she looks best in jeans

No. 29253

>>29248
>Reaching
We've been there for a while. It's anisa tier in here.

No. 29254

>>29252
>>29248
Samefag. And i didnt mean the dress on the video but the dress thats too short, probably why other anon said she had a fridge waist. I think just a matter of the outfit

No. 29255

>>29254
a fridge waist is a fridge waist regardless of outfit - also this was her at her skinniest - neither her body nor her face looks like this anymore geez why are there so many rv fags in this thread the last one had a seulgi one eww

No. 29257

Okay can't help but think that there's a pattern here

*Saying something remotely good about an artist (just trying to rationalize things) = must be a stan, go back to twitter

*Saying something bad (whether it's personal opinion or not) = stop nitpicking, she looks fine

You don't even have to go to the extreme ends (obvious stanning and nitpicking) to get negative feedbacks from other anons, but eh it's lolcow. Enjoy it while it's still legal to shit on kpop.

No. 29258

Have to admit this is probably the best form of catfishing for males out there right now. Armys are desperate

No. 29259

>>29255
she doesn't have a fridge waist tho?

not everyone can be rose the dancing skeleton, just saying

No. 29260

>>29257
people here come to take care of their hate boner, not that surprising. low key miss talking about the burning sun shit, that thread was the most coherent one yet. since then everything went to shit. it's like opposite of twitter lmfao

No. 29261

>>29257
Lol true, and you feel like you have to write a defense statement or a disclaimer on why you're not a fan before saying something that's not overtly hateful, or correcting something.
It's still the only place for ex-fans to discuss the toxicity of kpop without being harassed by little kids so I'll deal with that.

No. 29262

>>29260
Me too but sadly the seungri case isn't getting much attention on here anymore though it's still ongoing.

No. 29265

>>29206
>>29209
I was still talking about Taeyong there, I just wanted to know if she thought he was significantly better than the others or not so much. I'm not an nctfag and the only I know are Taeyong and Mark anyway so calm down

No. 29268

>>29259
she doesn't need to be rose (eww)- joy's bone structure is bad that is all

No. 29269

Look at the amount of infighting

>>29268
>>29259
>>29254
>>29255
>>29252
>>29248

I shouldn't have posted this shit in the first place >>29245

No. 29270

>>29191
Imagine going to a concert and not seeing the actual dance. I know it's a small thing but damn. Same with singing tbh.

No. 29271

>>29270
I really can't fathom how people pay money to see them live. Their performances are too subpar to be charging all that money for tickets anyway.

No. 29272

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Speaking of the Burning Sun stuff, what the fuck were these masks seized during the 윤중천 scandal preceding it? These were supposedly worn by high level officials. I used to think youtube conspiracy weirdos were crazy but now I'm not so sure

No. 29273

>>29272

This is both hilarious and terrifying as fuck. The masks are funny; the rampant corruption isn't.

No. 29274

>>29272
Not sure how legit it is, but in the west those kind of masks are used for sexual abuse, it's like some sick bondage torture fetish thing. Or if tinfoiling is allowed here, those kind of masks are used to induce trauma to the victims (beta kitten sex programming) or for role-play purpose (bestiality, etc). Someone would probably ask me to "go back to vigilantcitizenforums" or something, but that's just my two cents.

No. 29276

I don't understand why people can't be fans of idols (I guess I'm mostly speaking about female ones since this it's mostly a problem with them) and talk about their obvious eating disorders and body weight problems. Why must they fool themselves into believing their beautiful and healthy? You're not being a bad fan or whatever so why don't you admit it?

Also offtopic but isn't it funny how idol concerts is mostly lip-syncing and relying on the (very loud) backtrack the whole time? Like you see people praising their idols like there's no tomorrow and I'm just like: that's lipsyncing tho…..
>>29274
Your on to something, I'm pretty sure it's related to things like that

No. 29277

>>29272
this is so fucking disturbing. i think they might have used these in snuff films to not get identified.

No. 29278

in actual real important news - yoochun accepted some drug allegations

No. 29279

>>29276
Kpop is built upon a belief that both the idols and the idol system are perfect. If people start talking about the flaws, it will ruin the illusion. Kpop fans are delusional enough to believe everything presented in front of them as they are.

Kpop fans are mostly made up of easily impressed teenagers (though there are many young adult and adult fans too). It gives them comfort to feel as if they "own" the idols. Simply put, they need someone to look up to, thus they expect the idols to be perfect and be everything that's different from their daily life. Of course you can't bring up normal people's problems into their "already-perfect" imagination.

On the lip syncing thing, I legit miss the 1st gen era stages (the no lipsync ones) where voices were permitted to shake on stage as long as the idols didn't fuck up the whole performance, and fans didn't complain about the bad performance because they knew that's bound to happen with no pre-recorded vocals/lipsync. It was more human.

No. 29280

https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2019/04/enter-talk-can-you-stop-giving-stuff.html

I'm cringing so hard, this is so wrong. Is this a korean thing or do ifans do this as well?

No. 29281

>>29277
Definitely

So nctzens are sperging right now, apparently nct were being filmed by a hispanic channel and the host made a fan kiss taeyong on the cheek. Of course now fans are crying about how "poor oppas they looked so uncomfortable!" and "asian culture is different from your culture how could you do that to him! Your so disrespectful!" "educate yourselves!" "ReSPeCt aSiAn cUlTuRe reeeee!"

No. 29282

>>29281
how does it have anything to do with korean culture?

No. 29283

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>>29281
Example

No. 29284

>>29283

"When in Rome, do as the Romans do… Except when you're a K-Pop star. Then do as you please."

No. 29285

>>29281
honestly I think getting a fan to kiss him on the cheek is very awkward, but nctzens need to calm down. I doubt he's gonna be deeply traumatised from that, this grown man doesn't need an internet protection squad to save him from the cooties or whatever.

No. 29286

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>>29283
Bitch calm down

No. 29287

>>29286
>shitty culture
Polite kisses on either cheek are “shitty culture” now? Btw not only are they common in many Hispanic countries but also other places in the world like South Africa IIRC. It can be a little surprising the first time someone does it to you when you’re not from one of those cultures but who cares?

No. 29289

>>29286
>bringing down other cultures to praise asian culture
and they get offended when you call them koreaboos. they always think it's the most respectful and polite culture ever and all the other cultures, specifically western cultures are terrible.

No. 29290

>>29286
I wonder sometimes how much kpop (especially the boy group fandom) is just used as a psychological escape valve for these people. One of them defended BTS by saying "OUR BOYS ARE PROUD OF US CRITICIZING THEM SO WE OBEY THEM 24/7" which sounds like stockholm syndrome

No. 29291

>>29290
i-armys certainly suffer from stockholm syndrome lmao

No. 29292

>>29121
What a bad performance. They weren't dancing, they barely did it because there were backup dancers behind them… and they didn't sing either, because you could clearly hear the recorded track. I could only hear Jennie's occasional yelling.
So if they didn't sing live and didn't dance either, what did they do? Just some jumps on the stage while looking pretty.

No. 29295

>>29286

I love how they screech at everyone to stop being racist to Koreans if they don't like their shitty kpop bands but then turn around and say stuff like this. It reminds me of the time they were calling that black news guy the n-word because he made fun of BTS. Ratmies are gross

No. 29297

>>29278
Isn't he a meth addict or something ? I wonder how his group mates feel about him or if they knew.

No. 29298

>>29289
Koreaboos are slowly about to overthrow weaboos.

No. 29299

>>29278
Is he going to jail? Gosh I wished they took rape, abuse and harassment as seriously as they do with drugs.

No. 29300

>>29086
By "nobody says anything" I meant the companies and the idols themselves never acknowledge it even when a lot of fans show concern

No. 29306

File: 1556551248316.jpg (90.17 KB, 595x424, seungri.jpg)

i am not getting my hopes up too much but … https://twitter.com/pannatic/status/1122882240797532160?s=20

No. 29307

>>29306
Ugh it's probably too late for all of this. All evidence is gone.

No. 29309

>>29306
the police is taking too much time to get this fucker locked up. burning sun filmed snuff and cp for fuck's sake. why is he still wandering freely?

No. 29310

>>29224
Suga-chan here.

I don’t know what you want us to say at this point. Something more happened to his face than just weight loss or gain. Whatever happened to his jaw, I think he’s still cute. He’ll be cuter when he’s actually healthy.

Suga-chan out.

No. 29312

>>29306
Why can’t they just bring him in asap?
What the fuck is this “we’ll arrest him in a week or so…” bullshit? Do they give criminals a chance to turn themselves in to save face or what?

No. 29313

>>29312
Also, why is the news reporting his arrest warrant? When you’re investigating someone, you don’t tip them off that you’re going to arrest them, do you?

No. 29314

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>>29198
Meanwhile male idols take their shirts off on the reg and get nothing but praise for it lol
Also idk if this is just a bad pic but this guy looks like geodude

No. 29315

File: 1556554215531.jpg (1.55 MB, 1920x2560, fridgefany.jpg)

OG fridge waist Queen Fridgefany reporting for duty

No. 29316

are all exo, bts and got7 going to billboard? afaik fans can get in, so maybe it might be milky. if they all go to the award show i bet they will try to have no interactions with each other.

No. 29317

>>29312
because that's how the legal process works

No. 29318

>>29316
Billboard sure is smart to pander to kpop fans by giving kpop so much attention, good marketing strategy since no one gives a fuck about their awards anyway.

No. 29320

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No. 29321

>>29279
My main problem with the whole 'they're perfect' thing is the fact that saying they're too skinny is instantly branded as skinny-shaming and just because you don't like the idol or have said something about them before - you're an anti and you're just looking for flaws.

Honestly I don't particularly mind BTS shit singing when they dance because it's hard to dance and sing but at least they try. It's when they're doing nothing or avoid singing that it's an issue for me.

With Blackpink the whole issue is the fact that they're almost never live and when they are you will usually notice that Jennie is a mess. Rose can be horrible (no doubt) but at least she sounds similar.

No. 29322

>>29255
you sperg about joy being a ~fridge body~ anytimes shes posted literally anywhere on this site not even just in this thread

its getting old tbh

No. 29323

File: 1556557399665.gif (3.58 MB, 370x364, 51b8951f5e94a8c28a7445d1581eb9…)

>>29320
oof is that wendy?

No. 29324

>>29114
Just wanted to add to what others said already: whenever they're filming in America they usually go to korean restaurants and/or talk about how much they miss korean food (which is something that other groups are also guilty of doing) - meaning while they're in the US, while the're making money off of american fans, they're still trying to please korean fans back home by sperging about muh superior korean food (and culture).

Now imagine some american artist only eating burgers when in Korea and whining about how much he misses mac'n cheese, how would his korean fans react?

No. 29327

>>29321
For a main vocal rose seems very insecure in her singing and she almost always avoids higher notes or the more "difficult" parts although their songs are simple in terms of technicality and can be easily sung by other, better main vocalists.
Jennie on the other hand is too damn confident when she sings and it's time that her vocal coaches or whatever tell her that shouting doesn't mean you're singing high. And Jisoo's voice oftentimes sounds quite grating and maybe too mature…it just doesn't fit the songs they're singing.
Lisa's the only one left and she really isn't stated as a singer nor can she sing.
I don't get how they don't the same amount of criticism for their singing as twice tbh.

No. 29329

>>29317
Cool, good answer, 10/10, top notch and top kek

No. 29330

>>29327
I think a lot of the criticism for Twice comes from the fact that they do those stupid 'baby voices' so their singing sounds shit. Fancy really underlined imo, there was no 'strong' female singer there.

No. 29331

>>29323
yep, SM are really doing her dirty. Who approved this??

No. 29333

I'm asking out of pure ignorance: is Christianity that common in South Korea or why is almost every idol super Christian? I'm surprised to see all those idols with crosses and all since I thought Buddhism and atheism were dominant there?

No. 29334

>>29320
Her face, hair, and headscarf look like the photos of my great-grandmother I found in my mom's closet

No. 29335

>>29334
Samefag but no, not the face. That would be an insult to my great-grandmother

No. 29336

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>>29333
christianity is surprisingly popular in south korea, especially compared to other east asian countries

No. 29338

>>29320
whose babushka is this?

No. 29341

>>29336
Christian missionaries were some of the first people from the West to hang out in Korea so yeah.

No. 29342

>>29336
That explains it, thanks!

No. 29344

File: 1556562909951.gif (4.21 MB, 512x288, 4214772dcc6a6970391524f0b242c4…)

She looks older than her parents

No. 29345

>>29344
potential milk: twice momo's father apparently is a hugeeeee fan of jihyo and apparently went to a lot of hitouches for her - which doesn't sound all that wholesome as onces made it out to be

also momo once said that she is envious of jihyo's big "eyes" once in yhy sketchbook - i mean momo is the serial bra stuffer in twice so

No. 29347

>>29344
her parents are cute


she looks nothing like them honestly
i think shes ok looking too but i cant tell if its plastic or if she just doesnt share any traits

No. 29351

just found that in my recommandations. sk beauty standards really are brutal.

No. 29352

>>29347
I can see a bit of resemblance with her mother, but yeah she doesn't look like one parent specifically. Could be surgery doing its job.

No. 29354

>>29315
God that's even worse than Yeri's. Her entire body looks like a fridge held up by toothpicks

No. 29355

>>29320
wendy wants to be white so bad lmao

No. 29356

>>29344
her mom is actually pretty, what happened

No. 29357

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rosé's torso looks like worm lmao

No. 29358

>>29357
she was celebrated as queen ant waist bc of her figure

No. 29360

>>29357
jisoo is probably underweight too but looks relatively normal just because she stands next to them

No. 29361

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>>29345
I'm really impressed (is that the right word though?) by how many cup sizes idols can go up through various tricks.
why bother to wear push up and hip pads…just embrace your natural shape. It's not like the pressure to fit in is that big; their country isnt filled with girls who have insta-bodies with double d's.

No. 29363

>>29351
I abhor how this part of the show is being used as some sort of "health" exam to see if these women are "fit" to be a cadet and yet the ones with normal BMIs are treated like absolute gluttonous traitors. How is someone like Lisa who has a BMI of 16 with no muscle tone at all any better than a woman who eats well and has a normal BMI?

Their standards are fucking sick and all of you ana-chans who are criticizing fridge waists on underweight women are contributing to them as well. The only people who need to be nitpicked about weight imo are the ones who are seriously disordered and need help.

Random thought but if YG didn't intervene with Bom's plastic surgery addiction and her mental health following her "scandal" then he isn't going to intervene with Rose's obvious eating disorder either.

No. 29364

>>29357
good god….

No. 29365

>>29363
fridge waists depend on bone structure jeez you can starve yourself to death but unless you have good bone structure you will be ugly - unless you get ribs taken out lol

so idols should just embrace however you are and not mediaplay

No. 29366

>>29361
her plastic surgeon did a phenomenal job ngl

No. 29368

>>29363
And it's even worse when you see the terrified faces of the women waiting to be weighed, even though they have normal or even skinny bodies. They need to leave that part out, it's not relevant to the show.

No. 29369

>>29361
ot but choa was the only decent member of aoa

No. 29371

>>29369
Yeah I don't even know the name of the rest except for seolhyun and jimin. She stated that she had mental health issues and that's why she left but then she was caught with some rich guy and people accused her of dipping out of aoa because of that. As if you can't be depressed and have a bf at the same time.

No. 29373

>>29365
This, even when Tiffany lost a lot of weight and even had pretty defined abs she was still built like an iPhone.

No. 29374

>>29373
I have a body like that myself but you guys are killing me with the creative comparisons…fridge, iPhone lol what's next

No. 29378

I went to the NCT127 concert in Atlanta, let me tell you my opinions and observations.

Ok, first, I'm in my early 30s,I took my little daughter, my husband was there also. I was in the front row, reserved seats on the right side of the stage so I was able to get a really good look at all of them.
It was completely packed and crazy hot in there, girls were dropping like flies. The employees had their work cut out for them.
So, the show was 3 hours. they had really high energy the whole way through, even though it was so hot. They all seemed to have a really good time performing that night and they ALL talked in English the whole time until the very very end when they said their feelings on the show, city, etc.
Most charismatic that night was Taeyong for sure. He was having a good time and it showed. I think they might actually like being in America, unlike some others.
Second one that stood out was Yuta, he had a really good show that night. Like I said, they all did good to me. I'm no expert on kpop shows but it was fun. It was obvious they were lip syncing some parts but overall it was live.
Jungwoo and Taeil were probably the ones that stood out the least, but they still did fine. Doyoung was the city ambassador member? He seemed to have had a genuine good time in Atlanta. Said he ate fried chicken and fried green tomatoes, lol.
Yuta saw my daughter waving to him and threw her a little ball with his signature on it, well he threw it to my husband.
Overall it was pretty good, and I was looking for things to criticize.

No. 29379

>>29363
that and the amount they lie about weight on their profiles is also sick. Visually they fit beauty standards at 52kg anyway, yet they still have a need to write 42kg on their profiles to encourage a more unhealthy mindset to their fans.
It's also kind of sad how the guy tells Lisa she's very underweight and needs to gain weight, but we all know YG will never let that happen.

No. 29380

>>29320
I couldn't legit tell if that was wendy, irene or yeri

No. 29383

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No. 29384

>>29374
For what it's worth, I don't think it actually looks that bad. Not everyone can have a wasp waist and that's fine. I just like the banter lmao

No. 29393

>>29378
>there are unironic kpop mom's in this thread
Can we get any lower than that?

No. 29395

>>29378
Go save for your daughter's tuition instead lmao

No. 29396

>>29378
How was everybody's vocals? Shitty? Good? In-between?

No. 29397

File: 1556578232547.jpg (4.42 KB, 272x199, 892739847239847.jpg)

>>29378
>blogposting this hard about a bunch of twinks

No. 29399

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>>29378 this just finalizes the fact that you ppl really are fans of group a and just want to come here stroke your hate boner for group b kek

No. 29400

Why are so many kpop idols coming from already rich families? Do companies only take trainees that come from rich families or is it just a coincidence that they debut idols that come from rich families. It doesn't make sense to me since a company's interest should be to debut the prettiest and most talented trainees and I can't imagine bribing because it would be pointless since the big 3 companies make a lot of money. Literally so many of them are coming from rich families. All of black pink is coming from rich parents and the vast majority of Twice is too and Wendy from RV is also coming from a rich family.

No. 29404

>>29378
>liking a shit tier k boy group full of (((barely legal))) teens in your 30s
embarrassing. I hope you're at least asian yourself so your kid doesn't grow up to be a yellow fever fag.

No. 29405

>>29404
samefag but why the fuck did kmom post this here instead of the general thread? smh

No. 29406

>>29400
Nepotism & corruption, same as most countries entertainment industries. Even the UK's music industry (once known for its social mobility) is 8 out of 10 rich spawn or Sylvia Young graduates now.

While this works for other countries and people blow smoke up rich kids asses, it doesn't work well for such a visual industry like k-pop - people think Umji and Chaeyeon are hideous

No. 29412

>>29378
It’s nice that you enjoyed yourself, but please let kpop be just an interest or hobby, not some obsession. Seeing people pass 21 having an obsession with kpop is disturbing when the bulk of them are socially stunned. You got a family and everything so it’ll be even worst

No. 29415

>>29400
I imagine it's also rich kids who feel they can give up getting a stable job in order to be a celebrity. If you think about the amount of unknown groups not making money out there, becoming an idol is really a risk unless you get into the big 3. Plus having to afford to live away from family while (often) not being allowed to have a job during your trainee period probably means poorer kids can't hack it.

No. 29418

File: 1556583353747.gif (2.35 MB, 330x270, giphy.gif)

>>29378
Go back to the general thread

No. 29419

File: 1556583699844.jpeg (53 KB, 499x579, D9D8C13C-22DE-4D78-91D7-E185DF…)

Would these be forehead implants? Never seen anybody natural have a lump like that when you see them from a profile view

No. 29420

>>29419
Neanderthal genes.

No. 29423

>>29419
Nah, lot's of people have them

No. 29424

The part where Rosé drives towards herself in a car is kinda funny in this parody kek

No. 29425

>>29419

This is actually fairly normal for some ethnic groups, in one degree or another. Though most EA groups tend to have smoother brow ridges and higher cheekbones. It mostly depends on the slant of the forehead.

No. 29427

File: 1556589400479.gif (2.08 MB, 250x143, 1.gif)

>>29191
sorry for beating a dead horse but i actually lol'd when the camera panned over from a healthy-looking high-energy jisoo to rose who's struggling to prance around on those meat sticks she calls legs like some kind of wounded animal

No. 29429

>>29378
omg so this thread IS full of NCT fags…..

No. 29430

>>29245
Compared to the average korean, yes her body is unique.

No. 29431

>>29429

I'm actually a little bit surprised because almost all of the past threads have been partially dedicated to roasting NCT. I really shouldn't be since so many people here are obvious K-Pop fans in disguise and are using this thread to beat on the groups they dislike.

No. 29432

>>29272
EYES WIDE SHUT TIER

No. 29433

>>29333
The pope literally went to south korea a few years back. Would make sense how repressed they are sexually and with this cult shit going on.

Korean christian cults are common. Very common.

No. 29434

>>29431
I feel like it's been established that this thread is full of ex-K-pop fans and current K-pop fans who aren't complete SEAcucks and can bash without getting butthurt. Still there are three other threads dedicated to non-critical discussion and I don't understand why not just go there.

>>29378
Jesus Christ, anon. Not only did you pay to go to a K-pop concert as an older mom but you also brought your kid with you? Double whammy.

No. 29436

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sana used to be pretty. what did she do to her face? she looks so bad now.

No. 29437

>>29436
it's literally just different styling and she got a tan. fucking retarded

No. 29441

>>29378
>30 years old with husband and kids
>Go to NCTfaggot concert

These jokes write themselves

No. 29442

This showed up in my YouTube recommendations and what the fuck.

No. 29443

>>29427
lmao what an iconic gif
It really looks kinda alarming… can't believe I wanted to look like an ana-chan when I was a teen

No. 29444

>>29442
this is so fucking stupid i can't even explain how bemused i am in words

No. 29445

>>29434
We went to Atlanta for my husbands bday this weekend and my daughter wanted to go to the show. I've never been to a kpop show so I thought it would be fun, it was(shock! You can actually have fun, it's allowed) even so, just because I'm slightly over 30 it makes me a creep or stupid to enjoy myself at a concert? I didn't realize you were not allowed to enjoy something. I was just wanting to let you all know what I thought of my first experience. I had minor criticism and also just the experience. I don't know what I was thinking Sharing it here, thinking anons would either want to ask questions or something. Instead of completely tear me down for taking my child to a concert, and my age! Geez once you hit 30 you don't die btw. But apparently you should

No. 29446

>>29445
please go to the general or spammer threads

No. 29447

I also forgot that you can't mention NCT on this thread without everyone reeeeeeeing. You guys lo e to hate them, or criticize them, which I do, but I talk about one ok experience and I'm an embarrassing joke

No. 29448

>>29447
we have another kpop thread, fag

No. 29449

>>29448
Ok, fag.

No. 29450

>>29447
there was barely any criticism in your post and it read more like >i spent money to see these guys and they arent THAT bad you guys

which is your opinion and thats fine but you clearly dont understand the tone of this thread if you thought this was the place to post that without any criticism thrown your way…there are other threads where you can praise NCT its not that big of a deal, but anyone praising an idol in these threads gets called out pretty much, especially when the idols you are saying arent that bad, are the ones that it seems there are fans of who lurk in the threads just to say >see, they're not that bad their voice isnt that bad and their faces arent that bad
which has happened quite a bit recently

No. 29451

>>29450
Your right, I didn't criticize them much, there. I guess I just thought maybe there would be some interest bc of how they compare to BTS or whatever. And other things.
But it turned into an ageist bash towards me somehow. Smh

No. 29452

>>29378
how many people in nct have been raised in an english speaking country or learned english from a young age? props to them for showing the effort to speak english unlike the nationalist proud poc kingz lmao

No. 29453

>>29452
I know one of them was raised in N. America, Johnny I think is his name

No. 29454

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>>29451
>using the term ageist unironically
KEK gtfo, embarrassing joke-chan. You are too fucken old to be spending money on boy groups who rely on their looks to make money at the very least and you deserve to be cyberboolied for it. I honestly don't know how you expected us to react.

No. 29455

File: 1556597656011.gif (4.77 MB, 409x360, 54edebbfee67140a591786ef082d9d…)

wow such energy and excitement

No. 29456

>>29454
I am 37, a mother of 3 and I am a proud army. I like how they use their platform to spread the woke message of self love and speaking yourself. They work so hard. My daughter goes to sleep to Boy With Luv. I am new to the memeology thing. I like the constructive and supportive environment of stan twitter. So many armys are actually over 18. Have you seen fansites? They're all over 30.

No. 29457

>>29456
what the literal fuck…this has got to be a joke or copypasta…

No. 29458

>>29445
If you wanted a casual AMA about your experience you should have gone to reddit or twitter

No. 29459

>>29456
nice pasta Karen

No. 29460

>>29456
just stick to kylie minogue

No. 29461

>>29069
>What a terrible group
Nice cover, nctfag. The only reason why you'd care to look into the NCT concerts is if you were a stan, you just want to hate on the group members that aren't your "bias." Are you mad because that dude gets more attention than your oppa?

No. 29462

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No. 29463

>>29457
it's a pasta on some mass streaming army mom on twitter

No. 29464

>>29463
thats a relief

No. 29466

IDK why people here act as if kpop never possessed womanly R&B groups like BananaLemon. We HAD Rania and Spica but they flopped. The Velvet side of RV underperformed too except for Bad Boy. Pedos brickwalled the 1990s R&B style stuff out the industry. That's the Korean public's fault

No. 29467

>>29466
That's because they want them womanly but plausibly rape-able. pedos and perverts disgust me, but they're always touted as "dedicated fans".

No. 29468

>>29466
Rania was hardly R&B. They were stylized electro dance pop. I guess you can argue that when they drug Alex into the group they attempted to appear more "urban". But Id hardly consider their music R&B.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYvC6TmJql0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9lvgEXCSzA

Their music was similar to some other groups at the time, 9muses, After School, Tiny G, Dal Shabet etc. Even The Boys from SNSD was a similar sound and Im pretty sure Teddy whatshisface was responsible for that too.

No. 29469

>>29154
No, you shouldn't take what this thread says as gospel. My friends have seen BTS before, and though I'm uninterested in them, they've shown me concert footage. Many of the other members have learned some sentences in English to shout to the audience, even if it's not really perfect. Particularly V, J-Hope, and Jungkook other than Ratmon, but Jimin can be vocal too.

No. 29470

>>29445
So is this copypasta now or…

No. 29471

>>29469
have you seen any bts interview thing in america anon? it's just rap monster trying to be deep and the others nodding. they show no effort to speak english.

No. 29472

>>29197
I particularly really like his mannerisms/movements? Like compared to the other dancers, he always seems very into it from how expressive his dancing is. Also the facial expressions he makes. Ateez also has this quality, but it's all the members instead of just one. I really like that more than having the most talented or technically skilled dancers, because it shows high energy, a desire to entertain/be present (unlike, say, the girls of BlackPink), and adds a layer to the song/choreo.

No. 29473

thanks whoever linked us to twitter or tumblr

No. 29474

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No. 29475

>>29474
bitch i hope he does since he better be in prison

No. 29476

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>>29474
wont someone please think of the poor privileged rapists, sexual abusers, and woman beaters

No. 29477

>>29286
how do they have any right to call latin cultures shitty when asian cultures aren't the greatest, "best ever" as kpop fans DELUSIONALLY believe? seriously this is disgusting and kpop fans are horrid.

No. 29478

>>29289
Not to mention that these are the types of fans to defend Jimin when he beat the shit out of that kid for telling him what to do because that's "just Korean culture." But a harmless kiss on the cheek is "shitty" and "barbaric" and "impolite."

No. 29479

>>29477
it's racist when someone criticizes oppar but talking shit about other cultures is somehow totally okay

No. 29480

>>29344
Her dad looks like Japanese Johnny Depp…

No. 29481

LOL no wonder idols are shit in Korea

>manager kicks out talented trainee because they didn't want to be a retarded skelly

>manager states "Being thin is a skill"

Also bitch in the thumbnail looks like her wrist is falling off. Probably from being an ana-chan as well.

And this "ideal" height-weight is fucked up. 167cm should be 47kg???

No. 29482

>>29471
Oh, no, I haven't seen those videos. I only watched the concert clips my friends send to me on snapchat.

No. 29483

>>29148
>>29157
Hermit country…? Jimin doesn't fucking come from the DPRK. The republic is one of the wealthiest countries on Earth with a completely internationally integrated economy and media. If Jimin doesn't know, his agency constantly whoring for foreign attention should.

There were Confucian works from the 1400s written from an anti-abuse perspective by yangban. People just ignore this stuff

No. 29484

>>29456
If this isn't copypasta…..go feed your children

No. 29485

>>29453
Mark and Jaehyun, I think
Mark is Canadian
Jaehyun lived in the US for several years

Ten I think speaks English pretty well but he's Thai

No. 29486

>>29472
Too bad Ateez suffers from the same thing as NCT: terrible noisy songs. I’ve seen Ateez shoved down everybody’s throat when they have bland singers and average rappers. Dancing seems to be their specialty but they should be a busking group then.

No. 29487

>>29468
Oh yeah Nine Muses also flopped. Sad timeline we live in where BEG is virtually the only 2nd gen group left with a mature concept who didn't flop, SNSD doesn't count since they're all but confirmed disbanded.

No. 29488

>>29378
>>>/m/11970 go here instead hag

No. 29490

>>29487
yeah the only people delusional enough to think snsd still exists are mentally ill soshified forum posters
which is kind of funny because you'd think it would be the opposite
what happened to power of 9? how can you say snsd is still a collective group when they literally kicked out a member lol

No. 29491

>>29486
It's not a stan thread but I'll just simply say I enjoy Ateez, but not because I think they're a pillar of the most amazing, talented group or anything like that. They're enjoyable for what they are, you know? I don't expect harrowing vocals or pulverizing raps from any Kpop artist. NCT, however, can be enjoyable in their dancing too, but you're very right in that I've always found their songs (save for one or two songs, I think are from U and not the 127 unit) too noisy or cringey to really look into them.

No. 29493

>>29478
dude…he didn’t actually beat the kid lmao

No. 29494

>>29481
Kpop companies want to control trainees above all else. I'm sure a lot of talented trainees get cut all the time because they refuse to become submissive skellies.

No. 29495

>>29487
I don't know about BEG too, Gain is basically a mess

No. 29496

>>29493
Obviously, I used a hyperbole. Any other obvious things you want to point out, fag?

No. 29497

>>29473
You're welcome ;)

No. 29498

>>29497
Your faves are untalented plastic monsters I hope you know that anon

No. 29499

>>29483
even if it is a hermit country it's up to him to be a decent human you know. there are so many people who grow up in age hierarchy cultures but don't see themselves as superior for simply being older.

No. 29500

>>29496
not the og respondent, but it frustrates me to no end when people defend Jimin's horrid attitude. it isn't normal to threaten violence when given advice. he's literally S1 Bakugou with neither the looks nor the skills.

No. 29501

>>29498
Well, I do know that already anon!1! & I'll keep linking this thread on social sites like Twitter.

No. 29502

>>29500
Well it doesn't take more than a couple of Hello Counselor episodes to see how much hierarchical violence is condoned in Korea.

No. 29503

>>29502
hello counselor makes me feel bad for them. domestic violence is taken so lightly.

No. 29504

I just found out about the duo bolbbalgan4. One of them sounds like Rosé, only much better and neat. If she insists on using the edgy indie girl voice then she'd better go solo and find the right genre cause most blackpink tracks don't suit her voice.

No. 29507

>>29503
who remembers the pedo father or the young lady with an eating disorder? sk, for how advanced they are, has many issues, and this is one of them. their lack of acknowledgement of mental illnesses or trauma is pathetic.

No. 29510

>>29461
No retard, you losers think everyone is like you. I don't have a bias in nct or anything like that but it doesn't look good to have one person be in the center the entire time. I've seen a lot of people say that they hate that about nct and seeing concert clips it really seems true that one or two people get way too much time. It gets boring, and it makes them look bad as a group

No. 29512

>>29507
The sexually abusive father episode made me feel physically sick reading about it. Then I saw the actual episode and felt a thousand times worse. People trying to justify it as a cultural thing when the guy was touching the kid's privates for ten minutes at a time? Not to mention all the other heinous things he did to his family, and how he was rude to his wife. I don't know how anyone can justify that guests behavior in particular.

The rest of the episodes aren't much better.

No. 29513

>>29510
Nta/ You're not very convincing, nctchan. Is your bias Johnny, Utah, or Winwin?

No. 29516

>>29513
Nta but aren't you a nctchan too? How would you know all their names? You guys are a bunch of hypocrites on here lmao

No. 29517

>>29515
>>29516
From reading these threads. I've been here since the first one.

>Nta

You sure about that? You're projecting/defending pretty hard.

No. 29518

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What's happening ITT

No. 29519

>>29518
NCT NCT NCT NCT NCT

It's like Hydra. Stop discussing one group and two worse ones come back into the thread.

No. 29520

no one cares about your NCT sperging and hate boners, can all of you fuck off already?

>>29481
i knew they were obsessed with weighting under 50kg but every time i hear that again it's just…creepy as fuck, damn.

No. 29521

>>29520
they can't run when they can barely stand :(

No. 29522

>>29466
Agreed. And i feel like they only accept rnb songs that are super sexual and come from groups who have a certain sexy image.
Mamamoo's mature concepts in suits were only popular among women and still to this day they heavily rely on female fans.
I wish red velvet would start only doing the "velvet" thing now cause I actually really like seulgi's voice for that genre, especially in automatic. But it's just not as popular as bubblegum pop.

No. 29523

>>29518
same shit as always. wym?

No. 29524

>>29518
defensive fans ruin everything

No. 29525

>>29524
Why do people on this thread get so defensive when someone mentions Taeyong? I've been here since the first thread too and it's always like that. Whenever he's mentioned there's bound to be a couple of immature anons acting out

No. 29526

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Apparently this is what could happen if a jaw surgery went wrong
https://www.allkpop.com/article/2016/11/botched-double-jaw-surgery-is-causing-anger-and-sympathy-for-victim

No. 29527

>>29526
What kind of jaw surgery? I might have to do corrective surgery on my jaw and now I'm terrified.

No. 29528

>>29527
Hoping all goes well for you, anon.

No. 29529

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>>29198
If it was an issue wouldn't they just not publish the photo? They usually do that stuff over there don't they?

No. 29530

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>>29432
same thoughts, anon. kubrick didn't die for nothing

too bad girls here are too busy CaNcEliNg armys tweets and blogposting about ntc or entertaining obvious jokesters

No. 29531

>>29500
you have been sperging over this non-incident for multiple threads. you are an absolute mong if you perceive this as "threatening violence"

No. 29532

>>29531
why are you whiteknighting this reptile?

No. 29533

>>29500
>he's literally S1 Bakugou
Jfc this is such a cringe comparison

No. 29534

>>29525
there are some people who get defensive over certain idols everytime they get mentioned. usually some members of nct, twice, bts and red velvet

No. 29536

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>>29533
yikes

No. 29537

This baby bonnet shit is another level of retardation and gross implications

No. 29538

>>29532
it's not that, it is okay to diss reptil-san. i'm just sick of people shitting up the thread with twitter tier screeching about cultural appropriation, someone not being woke enough, misogyny where there's none, repetitive comments about things like jimin and the kid, prolapsed anus anon, armys in disguise lamenting over bts not giving them attention in english … why don't they discuss burning milk instead?

No. 29539

>>29530
Jesus Christ…theres no end to this…

No. 29540

>>29530
JFC. This reminds me of the stuff about Warwick Spinks and the boy raping clubs in Amsterdam 30 years ago. And what Karen Mulder said about the modelling industry (before all the footage of her talking about it got wiped and she got sent to 'rehab')

No. 29541

>>29399
I just find it funny that all of the stuff people in this thread complain about, literally happen every countries entertainment industry, it's just that these people seem to have never actually bothered to read up on it so they think it must only exist in SK and everyone else is perfect. So I suppose the whole thread is just filled with hardcore kpop stanners.

No. 29542

>>29528
Thank you ♥

No. 29543

>>29541
Exactly my thoughts. I don't know why anons get so suprised

No. 29544

>>29541
my country is too poor to do all the heinous shit that happens in SK. we just let our poor people breed prostitutes that foreigners can rape.

No. 29546

>>29534
Lol at this point I don't know whats worse, the nct fans that complain about Taeyong having most of the spotlight, or the fans that attack anyone for daring to question his place and ability

No. 29547

>>29536
Curb your autism, anon

No. 29548

>>29455
>>29455
Well, at least she smiled at the end.

No. 29549

>>29500
Not to be mean, but why this comparison?

No. 29550

>>29549
Please god don't encourage them to shit up the thread with anime sperging

No. 29551

>>29538
>prolapsed anus anon
what

No. 29552

>>29455
This is obviously slowmo.

>>29549
I've never seen my hero but I think it's a reference to how that guy is surly and constantly wants to prove himself for the sake of his own inferiority complex or something like that.

>>29405
The general thread is too boring. This one hogs all the milk and you can't talk about anything interesting in the general. There should be a midway thread where you can hate and fangirl at the same time.

No. 29553

it is a coincidence that all ~~center of the group~~ types tend to be egotistical and annoying? taeyong, jennie, nayeon, jungkook, they're all npd as fuck.

No. 29554

>>29553
JK isn't the center. What did he ever do that seemed "npd"?
>inb4 go away ratmy wk

No. 29556

>>29553
>Diagnosing
Oh boy, this thread truly has everything.

No. 29557

>>29554
Not that anon but he's listed as center here along with other legitimate centers of other groups
https://kingchoice.vn/topic-best-center-of-kpop-groups-2019-216.html?option=8058

No. 29558

>>29557
now that I think about it, what do these roles mean? what's the difference between a main vocalist and a center vocalist, for example?

No. 29559

>>29556
it's meant to call them narcissistic, we know that they aren't literally mentally ill.

No. 29560

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>>29558
Couldn't find a "center vocalist" but i'm sure it's the equivalent of "lead vocalist"

No. 29561

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No. 29562

>>29554
he admitted to being conceited himself lol i don't remember where it was from but it was posted threads ago

No. 29563

>>29558
There's no center vocalist. The center is usually a popular member and they literally get to be at the center during performances, photo shoots etc.

No. 29564

>>29563
the center is that one member who sings 90% of the songs/always gets the most screentime in every group. they have the most annoying stans.

No. 29565

>>29561
Lmao not that anon but this is funny. It's not like they mention the prolapsed anus every freaking day.

No. 29566

>>29565
there has to be more, but i felt stupid going through all those threads ctrl fing "prolapsed anus" kek

No. 29567

>>29552
>There should be a midway thread where you can hate and fangirl at the same time.
people still criticized their favorite groups in the general thread, idk why nobody posts there anymore

No. 29568

>>29512

I remember finding the link to the video on twitter and the poster was like "okay but reminder this is not normal in SK it never happens!!" like lol bitch don't be so ignorant. Family abuse is rampant across that country and everyone turns a blind eye to it or just turns it into a joke.

No. 29569

old but they look so miserable compared to previous practice vids. they knew they were going to flop after choa departed
and you can see the start of jimin turning into a skelly

No. 29570

>>29569
They probably knew they were going to flop because the song is shit.

No. 29571

>>29570
Wtf were they thinking to release that song? Sounds and looks like it could be from a vintage soft drink commercial or something.

No. 29572

>>29531
This is the first time I've seen this video and he is so rude and for what? They were just trying to help him clean the airplane better cuz he was doing a fuckshit job. I bet he's still asshole. Probably only worse.

No. 29573

>>29569
They're all so botoxed they dont look like themselves anymore…..you could tell me FNC replaced the whole AOA lineup with new girls and I'd believe you

No. 29574

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>>29281
Here's a screencap of that

No. 29575

>>29574
he looks fine to me

No. 29576

>>29569
I only knew choa when the news about her leaving the group broke out. Honestly she seemed to be the only member with a character. Not that i know anything about AOA though.

No. 29577

>>29575
She didn't even kiss him. Her lips or face never even touched him. All those losers crying for nothing

No. 29578

>>29571
>>29569
it sounds exactly like this, but extremely shit and with all the catchy parts/punchy production removed

No. 29579

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Lmao. They really did take the video down just to crop out a sigh that had the word "lesbians" on it

No. 29580

>>29576
That's what happens when there's only one who gets pushed or gets attention. When they leave there's no one else to carry the group.
A good example would be Astro where the public really only knows cha eunwoo.
That's why I think groups should all be equal in terms of talent, looks etc. if they wanna be there for the long run.

No. 29581

why must momo be SUCH an attention whore is it not enough that she is one of the ugliest horse looking girl in twice! she always has to seek attention in some way - like she tried to set some kinda record of 7 hour vlives and she always seeks the spots in variety shows where she will get the most camera time

and now she pretends to have a~wardrobe malfunction and wants to show that she is so pRoFfEsSiOnal by completing a fucking reheasal with whole kowledge that people will compare her to jennie who recently walked off stage due to a malfunc like ughhh

fancy is a whole ass bop tho and even momo's voice is somehow suiting in the new song kek

No. 29582


No. 29583

https://www.koreaboo.com/stories/red-velvets-wendy-reveals-whether-prefers-bad-boys-good-boys/

so wendy apparently prefers it when boys are good to her but bad to other girls OOOOOOOF the insecurity fucking jumped out

No. 29584

j-pop is disgusting in it's own special way, but to their credit, the "graduation" system that's been in place since the 70s and 80s at least allows some form of escape from creepy fan ideations. there's this vow to stay chaste/unsullied/unhuman until then, but once they've graduated (in cringy white wedding dresses lol), they're given permission to be messy adults like everyone else without tarnishing their idol images; as if they've completed some sort of military service or religious mission. && because j-pop girl acts have always tended toward underage to begin with (with part of their charm being their lack of polish as an indicator of their youth), these graduations happen when they're still in their early 20's and still have some life ahead of them. the late-capitalist k-pop system prioritizes squeezing every $$ from their starlets over creating some sort of sustainable system in which they can ~do their best~ while they're still fresh and gtfo before the public moves on. it's partially trying to recoup all the money invested in their training/ps/debuts/comebacks, which makes sense until they expect their acts to behave like japanese idols instead of western pop stars sustaining long careers. i feel so bad for "washed up" mid-20s k-pop girls… they seem so stuck.

No. 29585

>>29574
>>29579
Another unabashed twitter nct stan posting boring shit straight from their timeline. Truly epic.

No. 29586

>>29584
waddaya mean you feel "so bad" it is super funny to see people blinded with the fake blitz of the kpop industry realizing that their whole life has been a sham and they are disposable as fuck - and they earn lots of money so really there is no need to feel bad for them

No. 29587

>>29567
>idk why nobody posts there anymore
Because it's not as popular as this thread. Do you notice how kpopfags love spamming their shit under popular unrelated videos and tweets? They hijack discussions and can't stay in their containment area. They want low effort maximum exposure and (You)s even if it's not relevant. This thread is no exception.
Examples:
>any armys here XD
>random kpop gifs
>hijacking a popular article or tweet with "OT: STREAM ____!!"

No. 29588

>>29581
I mean all of twice except for like Mina and Tzuyu are obvious attention whores soo

No. 29589

>>29588

none of them are as thirsty for attention than momo who literally ha to fuck jyp and staff to get into twice (tzuyu doesn't count cuz at least the public liked her visuals)

No. 29590

>>29586
lol, DOCTORS earn a lot of money. if you're 5th or 6th tier in some group like AOA or After School idek how you're supposed to make money in your 30s… i feel bad for anyone permanently stuck with decisions they made when they were 12, foreverrrrr… if someone 1st tier like taeyeon could have made money in SK as a real artist, she would've by now… instead she pumps out bland SM music with botched plastic surgery while acting 10 yrs younger than she is to maintain her idol image… if there is some alternative means to a successful singing career in SK besides being a manufactured idol product, please lmk!! but i think an impressionable preteen thinking "i want to be famous/i want to sing/i want to dance" leads them all to the same corporate idol machine… bc of SK's history of literally banning popular music, they literally have nothing else, and no cut-and-dry method of transitioning obsessive fans to their idols being grown ass women.

No. 29592

>>29541
>>29590
I mean IU transitioned from pedobait idol to an actual artist who writes her own music and chooses her concepts. If she can do it I don’t see why Taeyeon can’t considering her popularity.

No. 29593

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>>29592
did she really?

No. 29594

>>29592
am i missing something, how is taeyeon pedo bait? her solo stuff is really mature sounding. her most recent song/video sounds appropriate for her age too.

No. 29595

>>29593
this. iu still does cutesy ~indie~ idol shit. i dont think it's a problem though, she can't really help that she doesnt look her age

No. 29596

>>29594
i think anon was trying to say taeyeon could be an artist that writes her own music and chooses what she wants to do rather than be just an idol ALA iu, i dont think anon meant taeyeon is pedo bait

No. 29597

>>29593
With all her "controversies" she would've been history long time ago if people weren't obsessed with her sweet-girl looks and image.

No. 29598

>>29596
oooh okay that makes sense then. in that case it's because she's still under sm lol. sm don't manage artists, they manufacture idols and promote them as ~artists~. taemin is basically all solos at this point but i doubt he has any control over his image or songs. that's just how sm is and everyone knows it. if taeyeon wanted to be uwu independant and write her own songs and manage her own image she would leave, but she hasn't left, so.

No. 29599

>>29598
honestly, could she leave and have a real career? that possibility exists in other countries–it definitely exists in japan, which the original op compared everything to–but not South Korea. with few exceptions, independent artists flop, and non-idols barely chart, period. plus, Taeyeon always give me the vibes that she's not totally happy at SM, but barely anyone's managed the combo of leaving SM on good terms + having a successful independent music career. like, i can't think of anyone besides shinhwa…

No. 29600

>>29599
I believe she has stated many times that she basically hated and still hates all the snsd songs except for run devil run lmao

No. 29601

>>29573
same thing with APINK i dont recognize ANY of the members now with their latest comeback or whatever

No. 29602

>>29600
she's not wrong LOL

No. 29603

>>29581
this happens anytime a group or idol does something that goes ~viral~ or gets attention, a member of another group will start doing the same thing

from the things they wear at fanmeets, to the "idol came up with a new way to make a heart shape with their hand and now all the idols are doing it", to falling on stage etc

No. 29604

>>29600
she liked Bad Girl too and apparently thats considered one of their worst songs by the fandom lol

No. 29605

>>29603
Lol the heart thing is so cringe. Looks like they're throwing gang signs.

No. 29606

>>29590
indie groups do exist in korea - just check the noms list of Kma's - they prolly don't earn money but at least their music is good and genuine - people getting into kpop industry just want the fame and the ass - but when they discover they have to give up a lot more for it even their own dignity - that's a sweet moment for observers like me right there

No. 29608

>>29606
I check out their "indie" music sometimes but it's all so bland and repetitive to me. Everyone is all the same. No diversity
>>29603
Like the heavy breathing "ending scene"

No. 29609

>>29608
if you actually bothered to diversify your search then you would find plenty of indie bands with lots of genres but no i guess you just think fucking dean is indie

"everyone is all the same" you say as if you have checked more than 5 indie groups - just say your brain can't take anything more than bland kpop and go

No. 29610

File: 1556650232359.gif (1.5 MB, 498x427, IMG_0057.GIF)

>>29608
I don't think I'll ever understand how that dude from pd101 went viral for this
He lucked out so fucking hard

No. 29611

one of the top comments;

>I don't think it's weird to buy Somi's old uniform. Everyone saying it's gross or weird or calling the men perverted, you guys are the perverts for thinking in such a way. There's fans of sports who pay ungodly amounts for jersey's, Kpop fans pay different amounts for signed albums and merch, and many other things. ToppDogg had a giveaway this year where they gave away their jackets, shirts, hats, glasses, etc to their fans. The man who got the uniform is probably just going to display it in his house and brag to other fans that he has her uniform. You guys are the gross people for thinking that these men HAVE to be perverts to want her uniform.


she was 15/16 here. at least the money went to charity

No. 29612

>>29611
>you guys are the perverts for thinking in such a way
this is such a pedo/future pedo dogwhistle for me
anytime ANYONE says that I know they're a pedo or at least super complacent with pedophilia

No. 29613

>>29609
Calm down crazed anon I don't even listen to kpop music. Also I have listened to tons of k-indie music but it still feels a bit cookie cutter even when they try to be "unique" it's like everyone is uniquely the same. Most of their music sounds like a copy of other stuff so I'd rather go listen to the original music instead

No. 29614

>>29611
You could see the hosts looking disgusted with the creeps bidding on her used clothes. Somi's parents have failed her.

No. 29615

and this is why having foreign idols in kpop is an absolutely stupid idea
this is what killed tiffanys career and shes not even fucking japanese

even if you are japanese, do NOT mention japan ever if you are in kpop, or you'll be fucked
https://www.allkpop.com/article/2019/04/twices-sana-criticized-for-her-japanese-post-on-the-end-of-the-heisei-era?fbclid=IwAR04m-Fx9kQaWDvJJc38U2MPGC5Cs73Q8_SMWyzbm3HBoZFZXL1mthOv8Fk

No. 29617

>>29615
Patheticcccccc

I've always wondered tho, do the jline of twice ever mention japan or anything?

No. 29618

>>29615
this better go to tzuyu level craziness i am so ready for this

No. 29619

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>>29615
>have Japanese members
>sing Japanese songs
>promote in Japan
???

No. 29620

>>29619
They also shouldn't take japanese money or ideas if they're gonna be like this

No. 29621

>>29619
you would think
but korean xenophobia is no joke idk why people keep trying to gloss it over or derail when its brought up
>b..but ALLLLLL countries are like this all countries do the same things korea does!!111!!! why is it being discussed in a thread specifically related to korean music!!!11???

No. 29622

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I used to think Sana was the prettiest in Twice but now she looks plastic

No. 29623

>>29622
the blonde hair ages her i think thats part of the problem

No. 29624

>>29621
Korea is unique in their xenephobia yet people like to act like it's not a big deal or doesn't have an actual affect on people

No. 29625

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>>29623
I don't think that's it. She was blonde during the Cheer Up promotions, and that's when her popularity shot up. She still looks soft and youthful and not so TIGHT in the face.>>29623

No. 29626

>>29611
>ToppDogg
wow, that's a name I haven't heard in years. I wonder if their company regrets rebranding them after half the group left.