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The thread pic is fine and heavily relates to the thread name because his fans claim he's 100% natural but we all know he is not. Relax.
Anyway why do armies claim everything is racist? Do words not have meaning?
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In the last thread that nose kid from stray kids was mentioned about his dreads, well here's another guy from pentagon with dreads too lmao
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I am curious about something: have any anons seen idols up close? Are they as good-looking/ugly as anons here insist?
Pic related are the loona girls
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When I was a kpop fan my friend and I saw NCT 127 up close and they're kinda ugly. I never thought they were good looking but seeing them so close… I changed my opinion. Most of the members all really tan and kinda short. It was so jarring. Yuta has saggy cheeks lmao. Pic related
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Nct 127 always look scuffed in unshooped pics. It's hard to tell them apart from their managers, especially in Taeil's case. Some of the other members hold up though, like Jaemin.
Taeyong has awful skin
Aw I love this. I always loved Ellin the most out of Crayon Pop. Its good to see not only a Korean girl, but a kpop idol be so frank and eager to learn about sex toys and stuff since thats still so taboo over there.
I still think Rose resembles her a lot and it makes me miss her and wish she would come back to the industry, but seeing her instagram and videos it looks like shes probably happy just living her best free life.https://www.koreaboo.com/stories/girl-group-member-visits-korean-sex-shop-sex-toys-spends-400/?fbclid=IwAR3gZHaF4DTB8SDEONveVPPhxmb9YAf_-fGyffQAfqNx0_PzS877mYUJxdg
Sage for old milk but I didn't even know BTS was accused of plagiarism for BST so I looked it up and found this video explaining the whole ordeal for people out of the loop like me.
BTS has plagiarized people in the past like big bang but this time I don't think so. The photos don't really look the same. what do you guys think?>>27107
Weak bait Anon.
Idk but I'd jump out my mf skin if I saw Vivi irl
Most of Loona are really pretty, but Vivi's face is sagging from all that filler.
Figured as such
idols have terrible dietary and sleep habits so thats why their skin is probably bad kek
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Veron from SVT looks haggard.
Mb, it was the Radio 1 Teen Awards thing but ehhttps://youtu.be/hHyVuicNF-g?t=45
There's numerous zoom in shots
Some of the songs don't sound too bad but why have they suddenly changed their concept?
I didn't like the concept but it made them stand out against all the other 'girl-crush' stuff
Wow that guy really is so skinny. I wonder if he'd look better with some fat on his face. Just the other day I saw a pic someone took of him and he didn't look that bad but his cheekbones were so pointy it was freaky (I can't post a pic or anons will go crazy.) I'm surprised he hasn't gotten his cheekbones shaved down or gotten fat injections in his face because that's what most really skinny idols do (including the other nct members)
And no I'm not yutachan, I make lots of posts itt about lots of idols and he's just one of them
>>inb4 reeee nctfags noone caressss
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The artist himself doesn’t even consider it plagiarism so this milk is boring. It’s an homage according to them. Personally, I don’t really see it except for the long table with the white table cloth? But long tables and white table cloths are pretty fucking common i.e. pic related
As for the Young Forever summer camp fire photo…I can see the similarities but I also have pictures of myself standing around campfires in shorts waving fiery sticks as a kid.
The third photo of them walking in a line…i don’t see it. Horizontal line with an equal divide between is just a common photography trick for a good photo imo but okay.
I think it’s pretty weak. Definitely not plagiarism, even the photographer says so.
From the photographer:>An article released Monday 25.02 in the Korean newspaper Hankyore incorrectly stated that I was accusing the K-Pop band BTS of plagiarism. I discovered BTS album “The Most Beautiful Moment of Life: Young Forever” long after it was published, and I felt a common inspiration with my past
series of photographs ‘Summer Camp.’>In an interview with a journalist from Hankyore about my current exhibition in Seoul, I answered about this feeling and made absolutely clear that I was considering a possible inspiration from my work as a tribute, and certainly not as plagiarism or copyright infringement.>I love BTS, this album is beautiful, I feel honored to know that 40 years later, my photographs still inspire other artists. Love.
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Not even Jaehyun or Taeyong lol? Most fans are obsessed with Jaehyun's looks, especially koreans but I've always wondered what those two look like irl. Who are the worst looking out of all of them tho? Is it yuta and johnny?
By character you mean this one right
Curious to see how this concept change will happen because JYP can't really do the kind of "girl crush" that 2ne1/4minute/Blackpink/Gidle have done. Even Itzy sounded kinda childish and immature.
Wonder Girls and Miss A were more on the "mature women" side so maybe Twice will go in that direction, which would be a nice change because those groups had good songs and concepts.
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Jaehyun just looks really old and idk plastic.. Taeyong got a biscuit head. His head should be bigger I'll post the pictures my friend got of taeyong and Jaehyun because she took better ones than me. Worst looking out of all of them is Yuta. The only decent-ish one is Doyoung or whatever his name is.
And yes Lmfaoo that's the character I'm talking about kek.
Pic related this is Jaehyun.
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And this is Taeyong
Yeah for once they don't sound like kidz bop songs.
I wonder if they'll lose many male fans because of this comeback…I sure hope so.
Yeah I've always thought Jaehyun would look old irl and taeyong had a weird head. I also find it funny that doyoung looks the most decent since he had so much ps
P.S. Lmao so the whole "yuta being the ugliest one" is actually true (what is it that makes him look so bad? I'm just curious because I find all of them so meh).
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Dug around my friends ig and found the clearest photo she took of Utah. His face is just all jacked up. That crimson chin implant really fucked up the lower half of his face so now his chin area is all weird looking now. Also whatever other procedures he got done are also affecting him negatively.
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solji's situation is so unfortunate. she used to be quite pretty before whatever happened to her
This paved away shit needs to stop. They completely ignore the existence of older groups who actually
gained "international" attention naturally.
I have old relatives in a country where kpop isn't even a thing and they don't even know what kpop is yet even they somehow knew "sorry sorry" and that was before streaming and all that was common
. A single group definitely isn't making that huge of an impact for kpop to become mainstream.
Then either you don't know which one Jungkook is or you're very bad at recognizing emotions.
Or you're a ratmy, I guess.
anon what three members do you think are useless?
Vivi, Yeojin, and Hyunjin would be the members I find to be very useless.
Let me look at the video again brb
It still looks more like confusion to me. Don’t know what the host said exactly but if he used the word plagiarism then that’s bullshit reporting because the issue, as stated by photographer himself, was not about plagiarism but “credit for inspiration.”
Which is different.
But yeah, everyone who disagrees with you is either a dirty ratmy or is bad at something that you’re soooo good at.
Regardless, I think assuming that his emotions at the moment was smug outrage is some mighty bias.
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tfw some reporter bringing up a plagiarism allegation ruined the circlejerk about how great you are
How was it rude or smug? It just sounded like he was trying to keep out of legal trouble by saying their position was the same as their company's.
Ratmys are also going off in the comments about how "savage" his reply was idgi
Damned if they do, damned if they with you people, huh
The obsession with hating everything they do is as obnoxious as loving everything
That makes sense. I don't know Korean at all so I'll just trust you on that.
What's funny are armeries acting like he just wrote his next diss track in that dry ass reply
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Maybe this'll help
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yeah the only reason her situation is ''unfortunate'' is because she lost her looks and not because she suffered from a debilitating illness.. Anyway she's still cute and one of the most talented idols out there
I think exid is a good group overall. They seem to be working well together and they haven't done problematic
or annoying shit (well except for LE saying the n-word and Hani being overexposed).
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And people still insist that his face is natural…
Tbh without that
Hani fancam, both the group and their company woud have gone bankrupt kek. It's interesting that as they became more famous, their company stopped forcing them into stripper outfits.
His nose has completely changed too. And all of those photos are taken at roughly the same angle.
Fuck, did we get linked on /r/bangtan or something?
Because he looked like a chimpanzee before kek
How did they even do that though? Idk much about ps, are jaw implants a real thing? Or is that the effect of something else like cheek fillers?
Nta but definitely. Has this thread become more popular for some reason?
Idk why you'd take part in it when you're an active stan that only comes to protect your idol, replying everything with ackchyually…
listen to your oppars: ~love yourself~, and go to the other 1000 kpop threads online.
I see, thanks anon
Still, why would they give him a more square jaw? He already had that V line thing they seem to love pushing on every single idol
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This is probably low-effort but they really never get tired of ranting like lunatics huh.
Link to post: https://old.reddit.com/r/korea/comments/beghkr/bts_ranked_among_times_100_most_influential_of/
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OP is absolutely, totally, 100% not a delusional teenage girl, no way
Have either of you literally ever heard a grimes song on the radio? Her only real claim to fame is dating Elon and that blew up online, not IRL. I don't like BTS either but this is borderline delulu. >>27264
That only applied to the drama boards
Ask any random person on the street who Kanye West is. 90% of them will know.
Ask any random person on the street who BTS are. Maybe 5% will know.
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My vote goes to EXID. Four out of five of them have gotten work done for sure (dunno about Junghwa) and it’s pretty noticeable. However one could argue that Park Bom’s face alone has more plastic than other any group and a water bottle factory combined.
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>>27310>their image is too squeaky clean to be true
Of course they have a lot of shit hidden, that's why they're all buddy-buddy with dispatch.
I'm sure them being seem as 'tourists ambassadors' by Korea also help with ignoring and hiding any scandals
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I'm pretty sure there are better role models for little girls than underfed and empty headed kpop idols
Even in this extended interview in which they are more comfortable, Blackpink members come off as not sharing their genuine personalities or just lacking personality/ability to express it. If they could assert a few opinions or be a little daring in some things they say, they would draw more interest.
I also feel like Jennie is not super happy with Rose but suppresses it throughout this interview based on how she looks at her and reacts to what she says, versus when, say, Lisa is talking, but maybe it's just me.>>27192
Hyunjin is such a great visual, but her songs and vocals have let me down.
Loona look botched irl but what's even worse is the difference between their official promo pictures vs videos or photos from someone else. Blockberry must spend more on a photoshop team than anything else. I've seen people post their promo pictures in the more positive idol threads before talking about how cute they are, but Loona look nothing like those photos. Loona and their fans are the worst in kpop for me. They have just about everything this thread talks about. They're incredibly skinny, overhyped talent, botched surgeries, dumb obsessive fans, getting praised for being uwu equality queens for doing nothing, the company panders hard to make sure they get international recognition. It's amazing that they only come up for a couple of the worst stan tweets or for occasional mentioned of the busted Tomochin >>27166
the pattern I noticed with Twice that stood out for me was that title tracks about love have to either be about having a crush on a boy, wanting to be in a relationship but not being in one yet, or about just starting one. Even when it's not as pedobaity, it really feels like they're targeted to make sure their fans definitely don't think the members are really dating and fans can project that it's them who the girls want to date
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her face is so cakeyy
“Doyoung or whatever his name is”
Anon I’m pretty sure you know that’s his name
Well they chose that life, too bad for them>>27328>>27330
I don't really care but why are you saying this here lol?>>27347
Korean makeup looks are so trashy looking tbh
Because anons act like that’s hideous when he’s clearly not, everyone’s standards are so high, if he is a 4/10 I wanna see a 9>>27350
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I don't want to live in this planet anymore.
>>27180>Yuta is the worst looking
Lol but I actually find it to be the opposite now. I saw fan taken pictures of them today and honestly I was suprised to see that that guy is actually the best looking one irl. I have a good pic as an example but I'm scared to post it because of the anons iit that will get mad lmao
And no I'm not yutachan I've literally never made a post about him before
I agree. I mean, lots of idols (not all of them of course) signed up as impressionable young tweens/teens without much guidance or with fame-hungry parents. Sure it’s naiive of them but it’s not like they can quit easily due to the trainee debt accrued or being too far into their contracts.
With comments like this one and that one anon comment saying that Tiffany’s mom committing suicide because of Tiffany being a good thing, it’s kinda messed up. That kind of behavior goes beyond being a catty gossiper/nitpicker.
Yeah. There’s also luring people in with false promises, deliberately obfuscating with confusing terms and language that even adults would have difficulty.
10 bucks says that anon also believes that if you get tricked into a bad mortgage contract, it’s not the banks fault at all!
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I swear they all look retarded
Jungkook too. Idk how you can look at them and see about how they never got surgery. They look completely different from debut to now.>>27377
An Anon in the last thread said they look like a special Ed class and well..they do. Jin and Jimin look like they have downs.
Not that anon, but you don't get the point at all. It's not about "knowing" cause we were all kpopfags at some point of our lives. Some people pretend to hate/dislike an idol while secretly stanning them. Just look at this post >>27124
(vernon looks horrendous but i liked that pic anyway!!) or >>27180
(nct oppars are absolutely ugly irl but i got to see them in person and they kinda looked hot so might as well spam this thread with those pics even though no1curr and nobody asked me to!!!l).
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Shit like that should just be posted in the K-pop general thread (as stated in the rules). It exists and it’s only dead because some people have chosen to take their sperging/covert fangirling here instead of the more suitable thread.
Anyway does anyone find it surprising how Seulgi’s praised for her looks by Korean fans? She has features that aren’t considered conventionally attractive by Korean standards (wide face with big jaw, small monolid eyes, slightly hooked nose) yet I don’t typically see her put in the realm of JooE, Umji, Hwasa and so on. I would suggest that it’s because she’s from a bigger company, but Wendy’s looks get shit on all of the time even though I feel like Wendy’s new face falls in line with conventional Korean beauty standards more.
jungah has had work done even if its just fillers
the lesson is every group in kpop is botched none of them are 100% natural
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Seulgi is praised because she has old-fashioned beautiful Korean features. Small mouth with a specific curved shape, fairly pale skin, pointed nose with a specific type of bridge and short philtrum, 'wise' and 'warm' curved monolids and a mysterious relatively slim face. Other idols like this are Yeji from ITZY, Jisoo from BP, Jihyun from 4minute and Dahyun from TWICE.
Ofc there are Koreans who think she is lame and ugly for not being a TWICE member or gangnam unnie but still.
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you're not slick seulgi stan - trying to choose a pic where her nose looks flattering due to lighting
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Her body is nice too. I wonder how kpop girls manage to look so tall and model like despite their small stature
it's called drinking only one glass of soy milk so that you are nothing but bones then wearing dresses that are meticulously meant to present the illusion that they have curves
the things you are idolizing are nothing but lies - at the end of the day when all of their extensions are out and their makeup is removed they are nothing but brainless malnourished empty shells of human beings suffering through hair loss
gtfo to the pop general thread to sperg abt your faves this is the critical thread
Anons say gtfo because the stans are clearly here to prove how their idols aren't as bad as we think here, and go on to annoy us with irrelevant shit about them that we don't care about.
This is not the purpose of this
If you're a stan then at least just lurk and don't try to convince us to like them or police the thread.
I randomly found out about kpop by watching some variety show or something and I had no idea what was going on.
I wanted to know who these people were so that's how it started. I wasn't in a good place at that time so the colorful music videos, the upbeat songs and the variety shows were a really good distraction to me. I never really stanned a group though.
But I think many people get so absorbed into the kpop world because of similar reasons. (I'm not talking about the crazy kids who think they can marry their oppa one day)
The long-term effects kpop had on me were not good so I'm glad i left that behind.
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My story is basically same as yours anon.
I was around 14 when I discovered K-pop (also SNSD's Gee lol) and I couldn't really relate to my country's pop songs since most of them were super erotic, based around sex, lust, partying etc.
I was a weeb and I also knew about AKB48, but their songs felt too childish (also creepy pedo factor) while SNSD's Gee was cute but also ""mature"" enough for a 14 year old. Even the sexy k-pop concepts that I discovered later didn't feel that erotic, at least not compared to western pop.
I never became a group stan either, would just have favorite songs instead. When I got out of high school, my interest in k-pop mostly died as all new songs and groups started to feel stale and not original at all.
(don't get me wrong, nowadays I don't think western pop is worse than k-pop, but when I was still a tween I couldn't get into it as it felt too sexual)
There’s an illusion of closeness that it cultivates. They give you sense that they could be your friend, in a way.
Like, watching someone you think is funny/cute/whatever sit around and joke and eat with their friends, in a similar way that you might gives a sense of belonging. Other types of music, like western pop music, feels cold and impersonal in comparison. Kpop is also very, very aware of their audience and they pander and push that I’m your friend/boyfriend/girlfriend narrative at every turn. It’s like, “maybe I can be part of something instead of being an extremely depressed and isolated 13 year old in a very unfortunate situation.”
Fandoms play a very important role in this. Why do you think they give their fans cutesy names? Once again, to foster closeness between fans and idols, fans and other fans, fans and the outside world. One thing that every person has in common is loneliness and the need to be part of something.
I haven’t touched on cultural things within Korea and other stuff but in short, it’s deliberate psychological manipulation.
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Seeing twice's siblings make you realize how normal they are compared to idols. This is nayeon's sister.
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This is mina's brother
This was my experience with K-pop in a nutshell - I was codependent on K-pop's existence to feel like less of a sad friendless loser at the height of my depression.
When I got a good job, reconnected with old friends, and began having a better mental condition overall, K-pop lost most of it's appeal to me and I no longer religiously followed my favourite groups day by day like I used to.
Yeah, but I think it’s an important and worth talking about…
Kpop really heavy handed about it.
A big part of kpop for me was how over-produced and fake these idols are and all the story off exploitation.
Sort of like North Korea with being so secretive but not secretive enough
So these guys joined a random kpop dance held in new york, and I saw a lot of sea fans upset seeing how they interact with their western fans. I understand their disappointment tbh. They were saying that in sea countries they aren't even allowed to get near the idols or talk to them or give them anything, yet over there in America they're dancing with fans, taking fanletters and whatnot. The difference in the way they treat the fans is disgusting honestly>>27459
Plenty of people are unhealthily obsessed with american cartoons too btw
What is the problem with SEA? Some people in this thread and the general idea of >>27466
make it seem like SEA fans/idols are the worst.
Wow, looks like we've got another retarded newfag not recognizing a common meme.>>27467
It's because SEAcucks are
the worst. Are you new too?
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I see the mismatched eyebrow pencil a lot on Koreans. They seem to never use black/dark brown brow pencil, they usually put light brown or even blonde pencil over their natural black eyebrows and you can see it.>>27399
She seems to be most popular among women for some reason.
Why is a child
in an an outfit like that with thigh straps and everything? Tf is wrong with some parents…
I won't deny that Koreans are racist to SEAs but I also feel like part of the difference in treatment could be because SEA fans actually acting dangerous in the past. In 2017 Taeyeon got knocked over and groped at the Jakarta airport. In the NY video you posted the fans are actually pretty chill especially compared to this shit>>27315> Blackpink members come off as not sharing their genuine personalities or just lacking personality/ability to express it
I'm not a fan of Blackpink but tbh I don't think this is any different than any other kpop groups. Even on Korean shows most of what members say seems ingenuine and forced. I don't know any Korean but idk it just seems really obvious to me that part of the training these idols go through is rehearsing scripted answers to common questions.
Yeah I'm the one that posted that vid and after thinking about it I do think that the nyc fans are so much more chill and that was one of the main reason they did that. They would never be able to do that in a sea country without something happening to someone. Different cultures induce different behaviors I guess>>27490
It's probably what they spend all those years "training" doing>>27485
She's actually already debuted as a child kpop idol. I think she's kinda well known in sk >>27488
Bleh and meh
what did momo do to get such special treatment she got into twice even tho the public rejected her and we all know her singing "skills" don't make her deserving of singing the fucking chorus
like once she said she doesn't want to be a deadweight of the group so she hogged a whole ass dance break to herself in likey
That can be literally said for all of the members except for the "vocalists". They seriously lack any basic singing abilities and sound terrible individually.
It's pretty obvious that jyp just wanted a big group "cute" approachable girls that can succeed in Korea as well as in japan; he really didn't give a fuck about them having any sort of talent.
These translated comments mostly come young koreans who are super into kpop, don't they?
That aside, I don't really get the point of translating online opinions from Korean articles.
They should take that time to translate the actual article instead. It doesn't make sense to me.
I was a weeb for j-pop, rather than anime, but like a lot of people I didnt like the wota-pandering direction j-pop took and, imo, the quality of the music declined a lot and became formulaic. Obviously I knew of BoA and liked some of her songs.
With Western music I liked Motown, the 90s R&B girlgroups like SWV, Brownstone and Jade, tATu, and the groups from my country like Sugababes and the 411. I didn't have a problem with hypersexual artists like tATu, Xtina or Vanity 6 but stuff coming out like the Disney tween acts, Danity Kane, Little Mix and Fifth Harmony really overtly turned me off. The music, vocals and visuals didnt really appeal to me and it just felt too pick me, male-centred bimbo and vapid without having an edge.
The first k-pop I was exposed to (like The Grace and Rain) I didn't think was very good. I really got into k-pop though 2NE1 who for the first three years had a distinct vibe, sound and look compared with Western and Japanese music. It was really cool to me that aside from Dara none of them were conventionally pretty, they were more fierce and it was in sync with their sound, or at least it was at first until they turned into proto-Blackpink…
Then I found KARA, T-ARA, (f)x, After School, 4minute and SISTAR. I liked the sonic and aesthetic diversity on offer. The music was extremely catchy without being smothered in layers of excessive vocals and had a lot of elements like modulations I found appealing that have disappeared from Western pop. And a lot of songs like Gee, WANNA, Muzik and A went pretty hard for pop songs (I like hard rock and hardcore rap).
I was never ever a fan of any boy group (so much warbling and the song structure does not appeal) or ballad group though. Nor did I watch the reality or variety shows or whatever. I remember my friend crying their eyes out about Sunny killing a chicken and I didn't understand why she was on such a show. That kinda turned me off the 'fan' side.
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Some anon created a new thread instead of posting this here, so there you go.
Hwasa’s makeup looks like something done for a comedic skit. If she seriously had it like that thinking she looks good then yikes.>>27443
Got into K-pop as an Asian tween in a Western country. There’s not a whole lot of representation of Asians as attractive entertainers in most media outside of Asian countries. K-pop’s filled with them so I think that was one reason that caught my attention.
Another one would have to do with the images idols themselves put on. You often see them talk about how hard they work/how much time they spend to perform, how much they care about their fans, and how relatively “clean” their images compared to other countries’ entertainers—even though it’s really just all a farce/act to get your money.
Korean male idols also are styled to resemble anime characters. I was already a weeb for some time and the transition to getting interested in K-pop was somewhat smooth in that sense. Not really into K-pop anymore aside from the milky content it can produce but those are my reasons as to why K-pop manages to appeal to certain people.
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These posts made me curious to look up more of TWICE members’ siblings. Momo’s sister cute and natural-looking for the most part—and seeing them next to one another really shows how plastic and somewhat troon-y Momo looks in comparison.
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She would have looked like this
i don't disagree. but while i think she was pretty, but her face was rather sharp, which would've put her in a bracket of belonging to a fierce group. kpop is all about stereotyping and marketing.
the eye surgeries, bleaching and all that made it possible for her to go into the cutesy niche that twice epitomises, even though it looks uncanny valley as fuck to me (the intro to yes or yes makes me cringe)
seulgis clothes look like they'd fit 5 other people into them WITH her still in them
why do koreans dress like this? its not just idols it seems to be a thing for koreans to dress frumpy and in wrinkled too big clothes that look like they'd be better suited for someone living in the streets
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Bekah from After School was the first blonde kpop idol I saw(i only knew of wonder girls and after school at that point) and i was so in love with her lol. I hater PLEDIS so fucking much for how they treated her.
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Bekah’s seems to have transitioned into a normal life away from the public eye, fortunately. I think she’s living in the States with a family now. However I can’t help but think that an idol with features like hers wouldn’t be able to successfully debut nowadays, even though she looks closer to the average Korean than most third gen idols do.
kaeun maybe, but shes basically the only one
well, koreans like lizzy too
I honestly believe she doesnt ONLY because she's a female. If she was a male she'd be a full blown law breaking abusive
CEO like the others. She has the same personality they do. I feel bad for the girls in After School, but honestly it technically WAS "her creation and idea". Thats why it was so funny when she got her own taste of karma and got kicked from the group. And lets be real it was because she forgot her gender and the men above her put her in her place, because its fucking Korea. She really thought she was the next BoA and the Korean Robin Antin. Then she tried to play the victim
crying about her depression and not being "respected". Kinda ironic considering how she treated her members.
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his nose is getting worse with each comeback. "surgery for medical issues" my ass.
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Apparently the discrimination isn't just against sea's, it's all non korean asians
Yubin looked really nice with blonde hair, but it wasn't the piss hue Hwasa is now sporting.>>27516
She looked like a female version of RM
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When Yubin's hair looked like this?
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lmao you guys reminded me of this cursed image
Weird that they would treat Chinese fans like dirt when WayV are a Chinese group
But again, sm and xenophobia are one soul now so this is not shocking treatment
Part of it sounds like they were sasaengs rather than normal 'fans'
The part about following them and that it's bad or w/e
In other texts they did say they were also "stalking", but I didn't post it all because it wasn't really necessary. Basically the fan said both the white and asian fans were doing the same exact thing, and they were all in the wrong but the white ones got rewarded for it instead>>27565
That could be true, but the fan said that they treated the local asian fans like that too, not just the sasaeng ones
some younger male idols and trainees have claimed there are women in the industry who molest them and do weird shit to them, just like what happens to female idols and trainees
i dont have a source but there was a recent incident in some threads back about it
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what the hell? she looks so much better in the pic you linked than she does nowadays. dr. kim really did a number on her face…
Kaeun having to see Kahi on Produce 48 again during that ep where Kahi was mentoring was so fucking awkward. I don't think they really saw another much except during a reunion concert or performance since Kahi had left AS prior to Kaeun's arrival but couldn't help but feel bad for Kaeun when she was barely allowed to have lines or presence in the group before they took their long hiatus (although she was more prominently featured on their Japanese releases) and she had to come face to face with Kahi, who'd desperately tried to push herself as the previous center of the group.
Kahi is also super fucking bitchy and has that bitchy aura and everything about the way she treated her fellow members when she was still in the group was horrible.
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I can't tell if it's because of the hair color or if it's something else but that dark makeup and overlined lips doesn't look good on her imo.
Her previous looks with lighter makeup were much more flattering. She definitely shouldn't be doing her own makeup.
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overdrawn lips, maybe the bottom lashes as well?
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I really loved her look circa Yes I Am. What the hell happened to turn her into Hyuna 2.0?
My speculation is that they try to make the nose tips look thinner and smaller and have to cut up the nostrils to do that. However, some surgeons end up doing a poor job leaving idols with two prominent black holes for nostrils (like Ratmon, Nayeon, that one chick from APink). I’m not plastic surgery expert though so feel free to correct me.>>27572
Damn, have not heard of this case before but fuck that CEO and his wife. Hope the member can get on with their lives outside of the industry.
Now that I’ve thought more about it, being an idol/trainee really comes with so much risk and such little chance at reward. Imagine spending your teens and twenties just focused on training without the guarunteed chance of debuting. Putting all of that time practicing to the bone and dealing with industry predators for years and you might not even ever become a star. Then you’re in your late twenties with few transferrable skills along with debt weighing down on you. No wonder you hear reports of some trainees who failed to debut committing suicide.
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she looks best when her lips are a lighter, more natural color, and she has defined brows. who the fuck thought it was a good idea to lighten her brows to where you can't see them? the piss blonde wouldn't look nearly as atrocious if you could see her brows
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I know someone further in the thread mentioned Yuta being the best looking irl and i skiers them until this photo came up. Dude’s botched
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The combo makes her look hideous
hate myself for actually liking this. the vocals suck as per usual; momo's voice in particular is so grating to listen to idk why they let her sing.
the mv looks cheap and thrown together, weird because some of their older mv's are nice to look at.
nayeon looks more busted than usual giving off real gangam unnie vibes and jihyo looks.. old. her face at 2:55 is so cakey peep the stache
but uhh yeah i like the song a lot personally
Twice's MVs have always looked cheap (I think it worked for TT and Knock Knock though) because they're 99% green-screen and terrible zooming in and out. I guess if your cashcow doesn't need to do much to make money, might as well skimp out on the music videos.
You can really tell their new stylist is Blackpink's old one, though, with those outfits seemingly off the rack and being uncoordinated. Their old outfits were hit or miss, but it was cool having outfits specifically made for them that had elements and patterns that looked cohesive as a whole.
Their B-side Charlie XCX helped write is uh… pretty messy, though.
It's nothing special and still screams the general Twice image but with a slightly more mature voice. They seem to have kept the 'baby' appeal.
Basically what happened with the other song everyone was hyping because it had a darker image but it turned out to be the same old Twice.
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apparently a bunch of nct fansites are closing down, including really big ones like tyrant syndrome
I used to really like her in 2ne1 but lost interest after the whole American debut thing.
She's pretty low key and private so there's not much to find out about her. Even when 2ne1 had their own show she was the most private one, not even showing her room and all.
The only thing that makes her cringey is the fake gangsta, badass bitch act she puts on despite her middle class upbringing (dad a professor, studying abroad in various countries,..)
If you care about cultural appropriation and that stuff: iirc there was an interview with her and some friend who said he doesn't believe in cultural appropriation?(something along those lines)and she agreed. Also, the Asian women comment.
The beat is okay, not annoying, but their childish voices ruin everything. Would it kill them to sing lower?
Looking at the translated lyrics this is the same old oppa pedobait concept just with black outfits now.
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Agreed. Her bare face is so plain and her lips are thin though, that could be the cause why she thinks she needs that much amount of makeup.>>27639
At this point I don't think twice are capable of pulling off anything other than pedobait stuff and high pitched songs (that sound annoying). They should consider disbanding. Not an snsdfag but they transitioned rather smoothly from pedobait stuffs like gee, oh! to more mature ones like the boys, lion heart. Twice's vocals can't improve and are stuck at some point.
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Yeah and doesn't help that she wants that Beyoncé look. It might be just me but I see this new trend emerging on insta and YouTube where Korean girls who oftentimes don't fit the Korean standards emulate the style of black women with braids and everything, or go for that Kylie look.
I get why they’re upset, but using different tactics for different markets ain’t racist, if that’s what >>27639
Is claiming. If asian fans didn’t buy into those gimmicks in the first place, they wouldn’t be used there either.
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Lmao stray kids fans always try to push their the group as a "woke" and "aware" group yet it turns out it was actually this kids own idea to have the cornrows
There's also this haha https://twitter.com/FELIXlTY/status/1120070433041207306
He copied it exactly and just changed "n*gga" to "ninja"
Is this supposed to be a cover or an original song?
Lmfaoo not even trying to be subtle.
No you're right, surgeons cut some cartilage off the nostrils to make them smaller. But in theory their proportions should be balanced with the tip, so if it doesn't happen (tip too small, nostrils overexposed) you end up with a botched nosejob like Nayeon or Yubin.>>27612
Yep, they do have the same moves in all songs. Even in the solos. The one you can see on the thumbnail was in Lisa's Swalla solo stage choreography too.
The butt touch thing is hilarious when they do it, because you can always see the hover hands. It's fine Jennie, you won't become a lesbian if you touch her hips for 1 sec. Lmao
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I'm not a music expert but in terms of vocals she's not really that strong… it's just masked better by her distinctive raspy voice.
If anyone is the "Korean Beyoncé" then it's ailee imo. Vocally she's miles better and she doesn't try too hard to be that "thicc" baddie.
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Spot the odd one lol
I think >>27694
is pointing out that once again Jennie is in a distinctive outfit that stands out from the other three. Even her boots are white.
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korea gave ailee an eating disorder. She's a really talented and dedicated woman. You can tell she went to Korea because no one would have given an asian woman a chance in the US
It's all too funny>>27698
They look like their wearing diapers
They'll make a Happy Anniversary tweet and leave it at that
Victoria is a huge star in China, Luna is an ana-chan, amber is doing things in the USA now (I remember seeing a McDonald's ad she was in?) And Krystal's being boring as usual. Apart from Luna, all other members seem to be content doing their own things now and Victoria's Chinese activities are probably bringing more profit to SM than f(x) as a group
Why would that be a bad thing though anon, I doubt Yeri and chaeyoung have taste as horrid as sulli's
As long as their groups aren't harmed there's nothing wrong with slutting it up discreetly
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i only ever saw her posted on 4chan in these gifs, which would result in 50 replies about how ugly and fat she was
and ofc female western international fans loved her and mamamoo in general before their scandals, but i literally never saw koreans even mention her until she started wearing the intentionally ~sexy~ clothing which they apparently find offensive and lets be real its only because shes not stick thin
Samefagging but wanted to clarify that there’s nothing wrong with making music for children if that’s what you
actually wanna do. The thing is that Irene’s life is basically dicatated by her public image/demands set by her contract so she’s spending much of her time doing something she doesn’t really seem to like. Not to mention that she’s a grown woman in her late twenties and is still treated like a pre-teen in regards to dating someone openly.
She gained more popularity after being on variety shows. Now the rest of the members get hated on.
I'm curious, has the public ever liked a girl group or just a female idol that they thought was unattractive?
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What if those are just random new yorkers going about their day? Do they really think everyone is out for their oppa? Ridiculous
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Can someone please help me identify this guy? I found this at a kpop store.
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Why was Shindong ever allowed to debut as an idol? That guy has zero talent and charisma and was already obese or overweight pre-debut. Was his family rich or something? Imagine being a new idol who’s worked to the bone and gotten shit done to their faces in order to debut…only to go on shows and be expected to use respectful honorifics to this asshole because he not only managed to debut but also do it before you did.
Really disgusting and sad. This and the group chats really remind you how sick in the head so many people can be.
Linking for anons who aren't aware. A woman was friends with these stars for 3-4 years before she was gang raped (and filmed) while unconscious and drunk. She woke up naked to these douchebags laughing at her. After, the men pretended like nothing had happened, basically gaslighting her. She wasn't the only victim
It goes to show that the "she could be your mother/sister/daughter/friend" rhetoric wouldn't matter to these men.
Can they fucking do something about this already? Are these people getting jail time or what? God fuck Korea and their misogyny. Sorry, but it's true. I can't believe this woman didn't even try to go to the police initially, she knew there was no way she would get justice and that's so sad…
Also, I really want Zico to be exposed. I know that fucker and other idols knew about this and I hate seeing people I know on Twitter defending them. They fucking knew.
I'm hoping idols go back to more normal looks and leave the excessive ps and ghostly skin behind. Even if koreans are so superficial I can see them embracing more natural looking idols once they get tired of the same faces over and over. Or maybe not? I doubt only i-fans are ripping apart idols for having weird plastic faces. What do koreans think of the ps in kpop? Do they wish to look like that or are equally disgusted as anons here?
Trends are usually replaced by opposite ones. Which is why I'm happy about the 90s look coming back, can't wait for the kardashian makeup and butt implants to go away.
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Zico is such a sleazebag. Some other Block B members are as well. If any female idol did even half of the controversial shit he’s done, she wouldn’t have a career anymore.
Seriously. fans should also realize that the vague pseudo-feminist girl crush concepts as well as the “woke” songs that BTS and Stray Kidz like to parade around are probably produced entirely by money-hungry, power-tripping male predators at the end of the day. All of that money spent on physical merchandise and ticket sales go towards funding these getaways that enable them to commit more of these atrocities.
Good times when the public hated him (and the rest) for the Thailand controversy and the seolhyun thing, and it's pretty obvious he knew about the group chat and what they were doing.
But his image got better after he went to North Korea, idk why.
As a man you sure get away with a lot. They literally have member who has had a gf for years and nobody witch hunts him.
Lmao unpopular opinion here, but this is what blackpink should've released after as if it's your last, not that ddudu mess
I like this song a lot, the mv is shit as usual, as well as the styling
"What disturbed most viewers and fans though was Block B’s somewhat insouciant attitude towards victims
of the Thailand floods. When this topic was raised, the leader Zico said: ‘With this monetary aid, we hope that you will feel better. The only thing we have is money.’ However, when he was asked how much money he had, he replied: ‘About 7000 won‘, causing the other members to erupt in laughter. 7000 won is equivalent to around US $6."
afaik the seolhyun scandal is that they were caught dating, hardly scandalous but this is kpop soo
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That anon already explained the Thai scandal>North Korea
They chose him to perform for North Korea idk it was a summit or something and he got praised for being patriotic afterwards >seolhyun
She is super popular among men and he was just seen as some tryhard rapper. They thought she was out of his league. He also denied dating her I think? So the public felt sorry for her cause pictures of her running to his apartment were everywhere and that kinda ruined her image.
Wtf this is the first time I'm seeing this.
Why do young black people support kpop?
I honestly don’t know anymore…
Here’s a little article to read if you want to. https://m.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/02/15/koreans-black-people_n_14771318.html
You can watch the videos mentioned (and more) on YouTube.
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Okay, sage cause here comes some unpopular opinions (at least in this thread)
>Momo is the cutest looking one in TWICE
I don't know why people talk so much shit about her looks? She doesn't even look botched to me, at all.
Granted, Tzuyu is the prettiest one (and has the best body as well), but Momo is very cute imo. I especially like her eyes and smile, and she looked the best in the short black hair (with volume) and yellow dress for the LALA Land scene, pic related. I guess because she doesn't look pedobait, and more like her age.
But she can't sing for fucking shit though, she should have only some spoken adlibs and catchphrases in each song and focus on dancing only lmao
>Jeongyeon looks better with longer hair
I mean, sorta. I think she looks the best with shoulder lenght hair (also pic related), but I am glad to see her in longer hair and I really don't think she looks as bad as some anons are making it to be.
And although she's not looking the absolutely best, it's still miles better than the coconut hairstyle she sported sometimes to fit the whole "JY oppa uWu she groped every girl in twice lezbian qween!", that she also seemed to hate. So at least I believe she'll be more comfortable with this longer hair.
As for the Fancy song itself… >>27628
Some anons are saying it's the same TWICE formula but with black dresses. I agree and disagree at the same time?
I mean, they are basically the same, making cutesy faces and singing high pitched (Except maybe JY, Mina and Jihyo?), but you can't say the song it the same "recycled Ooh-Ah" cutesy style. It's not super duper mature, but it's better than their usual stuff.
With a few tweeks and lowering the vocals, this could be sold as a boy group song, and "Yes or Yes" couldn't. The sound of the song itself is just too childish.
So yeah, a bit of column A and a bit of column B. I like this better than What is Love, Yes or Yes, Dance the Night Away and any of their japanese songs, that are always shit.
Sorry about the long ass post.
I think Sana is the most pedobait, but I do reckon that almost all of them are?
"sexy stripper on stage kawaai oppa aegyo offstage"
kawaii oppa? That doesn't even make sense, because both images are supposed to be the opposites.
But I wasn't talking about her personality anyway, I was talking about looks only, cause I know every single one of their personalities are fake and manufactured to sell products to thirsty korean and japanese dudes.
You're as entitled to your opinion as I am to my own, but your hateboner for her is pretty strong kek
I kinda agree with all 3. I thought Jeongyeon would look better with long hair but she looked the best during what is love. maybe it's just the styling but every picture I've seen where she has long hair she just looks kinda off>>27780
probably because it's an easy way to get views with barely any effort.
Ah, thanks anon, I get it now. The "oppa" part is calling for the oppa, not that she's the oppa herself. >>27780
They make views, and views make money. There's even one youtuber that was recommended to me and when I saw her channel, she started as a "unpopular kpop opinion" channel and then grew enough to show her face and get sponsors and become a "real youtuber".>>27778
I was giving my opinion on the song, as well. Also, so many comments about "this girl looks like shit with this hair", I guess I could say the opposite as well? I don't believe it's only critical when you nitpick an idol to death, people can be more nuanced.>>27782
It's the idol industry. Both Sana and Momo are masters of doing it because I truly believe Japan is the best at making pedobait idols. They truly are at home doing this kind of stuff, and would also explain why japanese idols are usually popular despite Japan's and Korea's tension.
Everybody knows kpop is problematic
as shit yet nobody says anything directly bc kpop fan culture is toxic
and stans is deep in their delusions. I've noticed intl fans disproportionally lashing out at fansites/sasaengs as if they're the biggest problem in kpop and not the companies who treat idols like disposable items. Not saying that sasaengs aren't scary but the companies seem to encourage them. Woke twitter stans could have a field day discovering dirt in kpop industry but they prefer to pretend like nothing is happening.
Same. Also it’s totally okay for a male idol to grab and thrust his crotch during a performance, but there’d be an uproar if a girl group member were to show some chest. >>27784>There's even one youtuber that was recommended to me and when I saw her channel, she started as a "unpopular kpop opinion" channel and then grew enough to show her face and get sponsors and become a "real youtuber".
Jesus Christ, yet another piece of evidence that pandering to Kboos actually is an easy way to make money. I might as well just make video essays explaining on why BTS’s accomplishments are equivalent to Leonardo da Vinci’s in the realm of K-pop and see if I get any hits kek
Oh I'm sure that'll be lucrative af cause there actually are a few kpop commentators and they get so many fucking views for pandering to sjw fans or just stating the most obvious and basic problems of the industry.
Why else would all these (failed) ex-idols start with YouTube?
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Yes, this is true. But it's also worth mentioning that albeit most of their fan are teenage girls, the ones putting real money on TWICE's table are japanese dudes with money and otaku mentalities, like they choose one waifu (usually a japanese one because, hey - it fits their fantasies better because they can communicate and bond over Japan and stuff) just as if they were anime character and drop a lot of money. Yes, there is TWICE gatcha machines in Japan that a lot of teenagers like, but that doesn't make enough money, so they're no the main
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All of them look plastic dolls (and not in a good way)
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>omg look at all those creepy old men
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This posts reads ironically, but there really are a lot of creepy old dudes in this pic? I am confused
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Shit, my bad
All of that makeup and the kpop idol "maintenance," and yet they still couldn't shave her stache. In the official MV as well! Too good.
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lets not get carried away now
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Jesus Christ. Found this in a thread discussing the video of Jang Jayeon's friend coming out as a witness in the sexual abuse that led to the actress' suicide. ARMYs still manage to not only make it involve BTS but also try to claim how BTS are revolutionary social activists yet again.
I'll admit that I'm being excessively bitter but your oppas didn't really do shit for the #MeToo movement or for LGBT rights other than say "love is love."
there's liking a group… and then there's just pure delusion. The only way I would say an idol has recently brought light to some issue would be jonghyun his suicide brought to light the issue of idol's mental health and depression/suicide in korea, but I don't know if the effects were long-lasting
and obviously this burning sun scandal has exposed more of the dark side of idol life.
the people making this MeToo movement happen in korea are the women getting sick of their standing in life and the shit they put up with, not a bunch of idols making pop music for teen girls.
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Absolutely flawless fan site editing
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pretty sure the mood killer would be vastly different
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The infighting is hilarious though. Also look at the upvotes vs downvotes of these comments. Armys hate it when someone say bts cant get pussies but also hate it when someone else says theyve gotten pussies before. At least be consistent.
I see those those kind of people she's talking about on twitter sometimes….istg they're so insufferable and stupid>>27608
I looked at fantaken pictures of them out of curiosity….and strangely enough I actually agree with that anon that said he's the best looking member in real life.
Also I saw someone say that they all have "big ass heads" and that she couldn't believe it. She said she had to get closer to make sure they weren't wearing masks lmao
there's been an openly trans singer in Korea since the early 2000s and it's been circling rumour mill articles for years that two girl group members have male ID registration numbers (I don't know the right term). There was the group Lady and another too I'm sure. Trans idols have been in Korea since the early/mid 00s, if stans were really interested then there's people for them to stan. They don't need to project onto regular idols if it's something they really believe
>which is almost the entirety of kpop stan twitter
that's a reach, they're just an intersection of the two most loud circlejerky groups on the internet right now. There's still a lot of openly racist kpop stans who only like gay stuff in the context of their ships but find actual gay people icky. They're still just like old anime fans with their precious filthy gays and having negative views on actual Asian people
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I know we're so over this but i can't stand nayeon's botched face
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Chaeyoung is way worse
Guess why they don't look as bad performing here
kek did they hire a korean to do the camerawork or something?
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friendly reminder that the girls the industry wants to make you feel bad about not looking like look like bean poles without hip pads and stuffed bras
I don't think it's a stache, the whole eyes-nose-mouth area looks weird while the rest of the face looks like it was run through the usual kpop smoothing filter.
The Twice girls could use some chapstick if anything, in every closeup their lips look dry and creased like that >>27896
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So another news related to burning sun were found. I'm beyond disgusted. But I couldnt find any info about it
Only some comments in pannchoa post mentioning ithttps://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2019/04/enter-talk-new-crazy-reports-about.html?m=1
Jesus Christ, there's not much left now besides murder.
It's really scary when you realize how oblivious normal people are to the these things until they get exposed…which is a rarity.
Makes me wonder if this is only the surface…
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Is this what that is referring to?
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Another part from the article
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Found this in the Pannchoa comments, an interview of an author who researched Gangnam clubs a few years agohttps://twitter.com/Netizentown/status/1106313665630883841
Wasn't it revealed that they were bribing the police?
The investigation is a mess, they already disposed major evidence.
How can they be so incompetent seriously
It took so long because the police force is notoriously corrupt AND incompetent.
Mainstream media can’t be trusted because they’re controlled/censored by the government. And that’s not a tinfoil.
The us-artist sjw stans (preferably the crazy Ariana or Beyoncé stans)need to see all that problematic
shit, gang up, and start a twitter war with the kpop sjw stans.
Cause I know there's sometimes tension between those two worlds when it comes to streaming and shit.
They're notoriously vocal so they'd make sure to "expose" them and make others "cancel" them.
That's the only way, really. Otherwise no one would give a shit about individual people complaining.
the police and higher ups are involved, thats why things seem to be moving so slowly and things are poorly executed. My friends said they honestly expect nothing much to come from it (aside from some idols recieving punishment to "be made an example of") because it goes too far up and the government is so corrupt. theyll pin everything on lower-tier guys so the top guys continue to get away with this shit.
it doesn't help that korea is still pretty much a "man's society" too. hell, my friend couldn't even get help for her or her mom from domestic violence against her dad. Police told them to deal with it
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Some of you are really new to kpop and it shows. Not trying to be elitist but it's not hard to find summaries on past scandals and to gauge the 1st and 2nd generation of kpop's groups and their impacts.
Whenever I see a BLINK trying to say how incredibly successful and revolutionary BP is, I automatically know that they are either A) aware of 2NE1's impact and lying to themselves or B) a new 3rd gen fan and know nothing of the 2NE1's impact in the 2nd gen. I'm sure former fans of SNSD, TVXQ, and BB (unfortunately) feel the same.
You don't even have to listen to groups like SNSD, 2NE1, TVXQ and maybe a few other older groups to know that their songs were largely influential in not only the kpop scene but also among the GP. Youtube views don't mean shit. Album sales don't mean shit. Streaming at this point doesn't mean shit either. NCT is a fucking joke, sorry to all of you NCT dweebs in here that have no respect for yourselves. BP's 3 year career is still a failure compared to 2NE1's debut album. Red Velvet is forgettable, even compared to f(x) the group that already had one foot in the grave at debut, and still managed to be more popular than RV when SM decided to give them a chance.
Twice I'm not going to speak on since they're actually popular among the general public but almost in the same way as SNSD where Hyoyeon and Sooyoung were regarded as the ugly ones–replace them with Jungyeon and Jihyo or Chaeyoung. They're basically SNSD if SNSD never left Gee and Oh! era and also if SNSD didn't have a single decent vocalist.
Anyway, these are just my thoughts. I'm not even a 3rd generation fan of any group after my kpop phase died but you all are wasting your time being a fan of any of these groups. They will all inevitably get fucked over by their companies, go one-by-one to the military if they're male, or put out a shitty song which you'll be forced to 'like' or else you'll be cast out of the 'fandom' if you voice any other opinion than blind ignorance.
Not OP but your woke Twitter sensitivity is showing. Take a joke, ~kpop woke fag~
Seungri was huge into hitting on trainees at YG. Forget where but this was years ago that I read it and there were always idols that mentioned him being a creep to younger females. Not surprising at all, in fact that's probably the most harmless offense that he's committed.
one of the ones with a male ID was in a group made up of Korean race queens aka the prostitutes that go to expensive car shows and stand by the cars and advertise themselves to be bought by billionaires
cant remember the name but i think pocket was in the name somewhere
pocket girls? idk cant remember
they just look like domestic abuse victims
what the literal fuck
Also add BP's Lisa. She actually sounds like Iggy imo.
I wonder how these idols feel that even when they starve themselves their bodies aren't good enough.
Didn't one of the twice girls get breast implants as well?>>27970
Holy shit I thought for sure this was fake but I looked it up and they are official Kill This Love photocards. I can't believe YG really did that especially after the recent news of the Burning Club members beating and torturing women
YG is a fucking imbecile doing this in the middle of all the crap he has going on
if it was anyone else no one would bat an eye, like, people have been doing cut and bruised makeup since forever kek
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whew, i thought bts members net worth was a little low …
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nayeon really lucked out being a twice member. she would have been ripped apart if she was in any other group. her looks are on the same level as jooe and umji.
lmao, being a wigga is problematic
now? i wish this whole cultural appropriation bs stopped
eh thats a weird speculation
she was "chubby" before and lost weight and she may just not be one of those women who loses their breasts right away after weight loss
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i think she just wears padded bras. twice is so busy i don't see how she'd have the time to get a boob job, but maybe who knows
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who says they dont show them off?
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Here's what she looked like during their debut, pre weight loss. Doesn't look like she's that chesty to me, but it could also be, as someone already said, padding and not a boob job.
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Here's Jihyo predebut when she was on sixteen
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what the literal fuck
jihyo became much more popular after her titty shake in likey
momo got a boob job too
a momo boob job would make more sense
she has no body fat and was really athletic and muscular even on her already tiny body frame
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They look kinda real though
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could just be padding again, but she was pretty flat before
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Kpopalypse made an analysis on "big boobs of kpop" and it's disgusting as hell.
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They aren't idiots, this shit is done on purpose. Same with this stuff involving Sulli and Hara. It's all messaging to a certain 'subset' of fans and people within the industry. The woke types won't understand why 'fierce queens' just drop this creepy shit all of a sudden nor will they oppose it, even if they know of it.
One of the Kill This Love photocards is a Happy Birthday card with Jennie as a child in a strappy top with messy hair. The other happy birthday cards are regular standardized glamour shots of the other three as adults. Considering the theme of the song and the bruise photoshoot cards alongside them - that's a weird theme to be going with…
Not sure if this burning sun article was posted yet (I think this one contains some details that the other ones don't) but some of these stories are harrowing.
>The other girl had too many abortions and her uterus was exposed, so she was abandoned after they said she was no longer of use.
Just when you think they can't sink any lower…
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jennie does that weird baby act a lot. i wouldn't be surprised if she came up with that teaser on her own.
Another anon linked to pannchoa's article >>27714
Still disgusting and sick tho. At this point the Korean public should riot and stone the criminals to death since the police wont do anything. Seungri stans who still defend him are fucking vapid and stupid.
Does SM ent make Yuta and Winwin act like this or are they just really gayishly close?
Another vid https://youtu.be/Fj7yyBZ5Lac?t=30
I don't think any of the other members are as touchy like Winwin and Yuta, why them if SM really picked them for fanservice
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When is the white face tan neck shit makeup going out die out? Even Japan is doing it now.
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pale face makeup isn't exactly a recent trend in japan
worse than sadistic sex crimes
and beating bound women until they hemorrhage… Christ >>28045>her uterus exposed
Does that mean she experienced a uteruine prolapse? God that poor girl. How evil are these men. The rabbit hole just keeps getting worse
The priest who is mentioned in the articles wrote a book. It hasn't been translated into eng fully anywhere yet but I'd be curious to see it translated. l feel horrible for the guy and what he had to witness but I'm thankful that he aided two young victims
and was brave enough to come forward with information. Even if they're withholding more horrifying details that they should release, I'm grateful that this is being exposed, because people need to realize how dire the actual situation is, it's not just about k-pop celebrities anymore but about the gruesome and horrifying details of exploitative ventures that some of them happened to be involved in- and how that extends to an even deeper corruption, and that is not something that should be ignored. I hope actual justice comes from this, especially for the sex trafficking sickos, they don't deserve to live after what they've done to women.>>27951
Well the way he tried to leave EXO and pursue a solo career while playing victim
seems questionable. Also I remember reading about how he openly admitted to hitting/abusing trainees as well as getting into fights in a semi-autobiography he wrote. Will share if I can find it. Out of the EXO members Xiumin seems the most controversy-free.
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Samefag. Forgot to mention that infamous moment of Lay hitting a stylist on the head with some paper. He’s lucky he got to debut in EXO.
you are a nct chan - doyoung recently got into a controversy saying that people as amazing like him don't exist among non-idols
(one may interpret his comment as being a deep-ass analysis on the idol industry saying that he is just an image and doesn't actually exist like that in real life but naaah we can safely bet he is a dumbfuck plastic monster) https://www.koreaboo.com/news/nct-doyoung-criticized-boyfriend-pic-live/
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i’ll never understand why he goes out of his way to do those shitty fake boyfriend tweets when he’s clearly gay
everything in the idol industry is obviously disingenuous but it just feels so odd to willingly put yourself in that position when it should make you especially uncomfortable
lol why do you say he is gay like is there some milky proof
i've seen an article speculate that he is dating taeyeon kek
Seem like arrogant self-entitled
assholes, don't make me laugh>Mark
I'm not gonna forget what he said in this hello counselor video about the guys creepy obsession with his sister being a "beautiful concern" the girl was distressed and it was affecting her life>>28067
I think that was their choice. I doubt sm gives two fucks about what yuta does unless it would ham nct's image. Also I don't see it as gay, just a bit clingy (it's not that deep, clingy people exist)
Johnny seems OK, I guess. Just OK though, in the same way any rando who's a normal human being not obsessed with pumping their face full of the latest fillers and dating 15 year old girls is OK.
Jaehyun creeps me out. I don't know NCT well so I don't know if I'm right, but he seems like one of those idols who puts on a butter-wouldn't-melt image and turns out to be involved in degenerate shit.
That'sthe only reason why I check them out sometimes kek>>28123>>28125
Yeah that's what I think too. Although I think yuta's face is getting better, it's been a while since he looked really botched
I don't get your nitpicking tbh. Not wking her but it's clear that she's changing her image ever since she got featured for Clio after Etude House. The same brand that features mature actresses/celebs like Lee Hyori and Gong Hyo Jin.
She's definitely going for that mature image as she's aging and she knows that f(x) is done for good, so there's no reason for her to go for the cutesy image anymore. She might as well prepare for a more promising career/future by changing her image. If anything, good for her. I'd imagine being Irene suck more than being Krystal who got to choose her own image after she's done with idols life. Again, not a Krystal-chan. You're just being ridiculous.
Irene currently holds the top spot on MLBPark (male site). Also in the current top ten: Taeyeon (29), Suzy (24), Kim Yuna (28), Kei (24) and Hani (26).
You're delusional, anon. Sorry.
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Just a quick explanation of that Clio brand. They featured Gong Hyo Jin who already looked this old as their spokesperson before Krystal.
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Popularity index for April 2019
was this supposed to prove your point or…
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Shall we summon ariana-chan to stop the arguments?
Lmaoooo is that a comment under an allkpop article about the doyoung/ariana thing? My sisters are nct fans and I'm quite familiar with them but I fully agree that they are flops. Whenver I see people try to talk about any of their "successes" I laugh
Also I thought the whole "shes hot" comment was distasteful and objectifying (just what I expect from him anyways kek)
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This is what he looks like, for the uninitiated.
I know what you mean. Some men just make you feel uneasy by looking at them. I never liked him cause I found him obnoxious af, and I knew he was doing shit like that when he asked sejeong to pour drinks for the guy she liked. That just showed how normal these things were to him.
But even the kindest and polished man can be a sociopathic asshole so I'll refrain from defending any male idol.
i knew seungri was trash the moment that story from the japanese woman he slept with and strangled came out.
yet at the time basically everyone laughed it off and said choking is fun and sexy so she should have been OK with him just suddenly strangling her with no warning. it was insane to me. it's taken YEARS for people to look back at that incident and admit that the minority of us who had a problem with it weren't just being boring prudes.
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seungri stans still at it
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Found this on twitter while searching for some burning sun update. I wonder when they will realise how delusional they are
They also quoted similar tweet and wrote that he was only face of burning sun and arena and it has no connection to him..
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I'm anon who posted >>27934
and just updating that this is apparently what masks were for
I find it funny/strange that the japanese dude is one of the only ones in the group that seem ( I said seem not is) decent. I can't figure out why that is, considering where's he from I thought it'd be the opposite>>28175
are there actually rumours about this? i thought any rumours about taeyeon and an nct member would just be about the fact that she's dated a member from every other sm boygroup at some point>>28183
or you play up the fanservice so that nobody believes any rumours and assumes they're just from crazy shippers
What the fuck? He's so much older than I expected, I expected him to be in his twenties or something based on how immature and stupid he seems. Not that old. Yikes.
Is the woman beside him his girlfriend? I wonder how she feels about his proclivity towards objectifying women half his age.
For someone who continuously shits on SJWs and Tumblrinas, he and his GF (if that's who the woman on the right is) sure do look a lot like your typical box-dye xir-xims>>28170
When SEAnons over here ask why SEA stans are hated so much…..this is why
Korea is tiny, every shit gets viral.
Like, sana went viral for saying "cheese kimbap".
I'd milk it too for as long as I can cause I've heard they make the good money from commercials.
protect these kids before they get discovered by furries.
this looks like what bighit was trying to do with boy with luv. also they are probably trying to push one of these rappers as suga 2.0. he had the similar edgy style.
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people should thank bts for existing, the media should be on it’s knees praising them…. this fandom has a major superiority complex
it's like they know k-pop is a fad in the west
(also nitpick but britain got oasis, who were up there with the beatles over there at the height of their fame)
These young people need to find better priorities in their lives than to invest an abnormal amount of time, money and energy on seven men who don't know about their existence.
They even made that channel remove the Sea of Japan thing which gives bts more nationalism points back home lol
If you think he's been looking less plastic lately that tells me you've only seen him in pictures or just haven't been paying attention. He looks like a complete abomination in motion, it makes me feel uneasy.
Anyways, sorry rain on the yutachans' parade but I doubt he'd be decent after all this. Maybe Johnny, Haechan, most dream members, and a few wayv members (namely Kun).
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i can't imagine how bad ratmys meltdown will be if bts disbands
contrast their reaction after winning today's whatever show today to their first mama daesang and that'll show you the distinction between real and fake
also v can't even do his trademark box smile properly anymore due to shit done to his face it is SAD (read: funny)
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why do they both look so swollen
>>28218>I don't like someones face and think they look too plastic=must be a terrible person>A kid who contacted and kissed up to saesangs must be a decent kid>A bunch of rich spoiled kids who have been famous since they were young must be nice kids>I don't know much about the wayv members but I bet they're good people
Fillers at least
yuta just seems very insecure and self-hating to me. possibly anachan, definitely hates his face since he can't stop doing shit to it. i've seen nothing to suggest he's a dbag to anyone but himself though.
jaehyun, doyoung and jungwoo are the ones who give me dbag/fuckboy vibes.
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He’s finally done. Good riddance.
More like noona fans, yikes
Feel bad for the mixed guy who is also their English speaker, these lyrics are so uncomfortable and cringey
I agree. Imagine leaving the chance to have a stable and comfortable life with more opportunities in the US in order to become known as a piece of both pedobait and furrybait.>>28207>thinking that TXT are even close to getting paid/breaking even at this point
kek Maybe they will in a few years or so. Still if they keep pushing out shit concept songs like this, they might end up flopping without much to show.
Isn't that already happening? I mean, I'm not sure how much of BTS's success can extend over to TXT. Their company's not that
established yet and both groups kinda have different concepts going on for them. Some of BTS's music can pass off as generic EDM/trap songs if they were in English, but TXT's music has absolutely little appeal to most demographics outside of little girls and mentally stunted Koreaboos.
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calling them a 3rd generation version is pretty generous tbh
they're literally and quite intentionally a shitty third rate copy from the number of members, down to the clothing they wear in videos and performances
jyp knew what he was doing
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her personality has always rubbed me the wrong way
the constant burping and farting and being gross because shes ~a guys girl~ or whatever disgusts me, and she also plays up the ~im a autist retard~ schtick too, but idk about the pedo stuff
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That's how I feel like it is with most third generation idols. They're styled a lot younger and they look a lot younger. Even the supposedly "edgy" idols like BP are infantized (sideyes at jennie's weird lolibait bs) and most other girlcrush concept groups are a lot trendier and younger looking than their predecessors, who were styled in more mature, wacky fashion and wore far heavier makeup? Maybe it's just a generational shift but there is this inclination towards SK trying to make idols (and lets not kid ourselves, the male ones too, look at that fucking TXT MV) look more childish.
And as time goes by they keep trying to make them look younger… and younger… and many of the older 3rd gen groups are fully grown adults by this point.
TWICE were styled the most "adult" during Like Ooh Ahh and Sixteen, ironically when half of them were underage.
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You'd have to search through every Weekly Idol episode with teenage girl groups to get an idea of her being a pervert but only ironically so it's fine, but searching for Hani with Oh My Girl's Arin gives a list of a few instances that are just a bit weird given the circumstances. Arin was only 15 when she debuted and was 16 and 17 when Hani started sperging about how she was her ideal type. There's loads of instances of older female idols being really sweet with underage idols without ever having to call them their ideal types or anything, it's just a bit weird that she uses specific phrases like that. Hani just seems like she thinks being quirky and not understanding boundaries is cute and she applies that to talking about teenage girls as well as burping to be unique. Would be less weird if fans didn't use it as a reason to love lesbian queen Hani
Twice made a whole career out of being permanently stuck in SNSD's Genie era >>28349
SNSD only pandered to weebs and losers in their first 2 years, they switched to RDR almost immediately after Oh. Twice remained stuck in the pedobait niche for far too long because JYP is scared of taking risks after Wonder Girls' American advancement failed.
Twice is his copy of SNSD, Itzy his copy of Blackpink, I imagine in 3 years time he'll have a copy of Red Velvet all ready to debut.
that's exactly how i feel. they literally look like 12 y/o children. i think especially bp don't suit their concept. they are only a few years older than me but if i saw them irl i would think they are at most 15 or so. also their behaviour is child-like. it really creeps me out sometimes.
the only gg that look like tehir age is red velvet and even that's debatable…
Eaxctly, kpopfags are a sad, dumb bunch>>28387
Yeah little girls only have so much money, who do you think is buying all the merch? Lmao
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I kept seeing TXT pop up all over YouTube so I was curious about how they're doing. Geez, their latest comeback video was uploaded only yesterday and it's still at a low 6 million views. I guess their initial hype wore off?
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TBH I just think TWICE is legit popular everywhere in Asia. Korea, Japan, China and a lot of SEA countries. That are probably some mass streamers because of course there is, but they also have legit views to back them up. Good thing that JYP now learned his lane, and doesn't try to make stupid ~international~ promotions outside of Asia.>>28413
Isn't Lisa the main dancer? I always though she was the main vocalist, Jennie was the main rapper, Lisa the main dancer and Jisoo… was also there. The visual, I guess.
>the only gg that look like tehir age is red velvet and even that's debatable…
That's why RV is so popular with women. And I mean women, not teens. Same goes for Mamamoo.
And I think this is also the reason why Yeri is the least popular from RV (aside from lack of talent and charisma), she's just too young compared to the others and is usually the most infantilised. I think SM is trying to change that a bit, but she's a hack nonetheless. also why power up wasn't as big as bad boy and peakaboo, although still pretty big
Crazy, it's almost like women prefer looking at entertainers that reflect themselves? Idealised, yes, but at least more adult-like.
But hey, women don't make as much money and more importantly - don't drop
as much money as these uncle fans, so unclebait k-pop is probably not going to leave soon.
Side note: I do believe that was also the reason SNSD was so popular with women as well. I know SNSD was also immensely popular with men; with makes me wonder if, with the rise of wota virgins, the market shifted to more "pure", "girl-next-door", non-threatning looking waifu idols.
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its going to be so weird when they tweak her features
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Is her personality really as bad as people describe it?
Jisoo: Lead Vocalist, Visual
Jennie: Main Rapper, Vocalist
Rose: Main Vocalist, Lead Dancer
Lisa: Rapper, Dancer, Sub-Vocalist
Fake as fake can get, normally.
I suspect it’s off by at least 1-2 inches, usually. Could be as off as 5 inches.
Boy groups over report and girl groups under report.
her assigned "personality" is female idol who thinks shes a man
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>when manager oppa says you can eat ice cream for the first time in 8 months
I know about AKB's popular member Mayu (so a former colleague) who hates her guts, she had a private instagram where she posted some rant about Sakura being a "plastic surgery monster".https://www.koreaboo.com/news/japanese-idols-instagram-hacked-revealing-shocking-sexual-content/
Link is kinda nsfw because the author felt the need to post weirdly sexual bikini pics of Mayu to fill blank spaces.
kek so much hilariousness in this article
>pure image>tons of gravure photoshoots that people want to pretend they didnt know existed until she got hacked
why are idol fans so willfully obtuse
Shit, I wouldn't wanna be in that
Lmao koreans thinking that all jpop is cutesy idol girls…..fuck off.
Also it shouldn't called kpop, but their reasons are ridiculous. Their insecurity is so obvious kek
What exactly do you agree with?
Why on earth do they think so highly of kpop lmao? It's just pop music in korean, and jpop is pop music in japanese
There is still a limit with Red Velvet. Be Natural had a way more mature vibe than their current stuff but R&B vocals and suits don't placate the kpopalypse uncles so they ditched it for the autistic Sue Lyons routine that Irene seems to permanently reside in.
Wendy's entire jaw got shaved off to make her look more like jailbait. Paedophile i-fans shit on Seulgi's looks so much I'm surprised she hasn't been botched as much as the others yet
>>28443>tons of weirdly pedoish gravure pictures, probably some made when she was still a minor>"My waifu so pure!">said idol grows up, mentions sexual things and talks shit>"Not pure anymore!"
They're so delusional>>28446
They already tried the mature concept a couple months ago, see video related. It wasn't even bad, no high pitched wails. Maybe it was too mature for unclefans.
Yeah, because all japanese pop music is idol shit and all korean pop music is respectable and proper. Ok anon
I don't think it should be called kpop eithr, simply because it's not in korean.
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I find her weird looking tbh. also before PD48 i wouldnt have thought that she's only 17 (not complimenting korean styling either).
Holy shit, I am impressed with this?? I mean, it's no grammy performance, but it's… good? Even Momo doesn't sound as bad as she always do. Damn.
That and vid related show that they could kinda go for a "2nd gen SNSD" vibe-ish if they (actually, JYP) wanted too, but the uncle money is just too too sweet to lose.>>28457
>There is still a limit with Red Velvet.
Oh yeah, deffo. You still have to pander to be as high as they are, but what I was saying was more "you don't have to go as low and would still get women's money too, to boot". But yeah. At least I think RV experiments a bit more with their concepts than Twice and BP.
As for Wendy's jaw… I still don't now if that was a corporate's decision or her own. She's always so insecure. Either way, I mourn it, she had a pretty nice face shape.
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surprise halloween came early this year~
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excuse you twice is a visual group
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Im confused by this gif. Did the tall girl purposely bump the short girl?? Or accidentally?? And then the short one had a bitchy reaction?
Idk their names i don't keep track kpop groups anymore
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Ugh I really can't stand her.
They probably have catfights in the dorm regularly>>28490
Me either, her being a kboo was the last straw for me (and no, i'm not a fan of the shitty group shes from, I just hate her type)
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This sound's like some amateur's sound cloud hit. Also what's up with this guy? He looks plastic.
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i would too if my skirt was that short. i think it's even the same length as irenes infamous dress. they really are obsessed with long legs lol
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Even his fanarts are creepy cause they couldnt not include his triple eyelids
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Anyone remember that time Jihyo made a dig at having darker skin and Tzuyu called her out on her shit? It's weird looking back since Jihyo got a tan and started getting more praise for her looks than she ever had because of it kek
The comments are all about the bts army girl..ratmies>>28528
It's that messed up culture aki-shit introduced
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Apparently it's a real surname similar to: Buening, Huenink, Dunning, Piening, Durning, Guenin, Duensing. According to the site though, it's a very rare surname with the origin traced back to a city in the USA.
However, Idk how real his dad's name is since he has no connection to Wisconsin (he used to live in Texas) and is Brazilian. So idk how he got that surname unless he had it changed. The name kinda sounds chinese too (许宁), and it makes sense for him to want a chinese-sounding name since he's a huge chinaboo (who actually made it big in china, the equivalent of englishkoreanman and the likes in modern days). That's just my theory and I could be wrong. If he and his son arent public figures, I'd think of them as catfishes cause of the edgy ethnic backgrounds combination and shit (not that it's impossible though).
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my sides, I'm cringing so hard
i wouldnt say its impossible given how many unattractive idols there are
shindong, hyoyeon, umji, nayeon, luna etc
I feel like the only ones feeling this shit is the J-line and that's a given.>>28457>shit on Seulgi's looks
I don't understand why they do this and then they post Twice Naeyeon unironically as a better alternative.
Looking at the camera with eye-service~ and flipping your hair while not going hard in the actual dance, especially for a BoA song is pathetic.
SNSD did it better.
I was not talking about the video I posted when I said I was impressed and that it was "good", I was talking about >>28461
but anon deleted the one I was directly quoting.
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ARMYs prove themselves to be fucking disgusting part 32356
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I see a lot of boy group fangirls who are into stuff like this and hands, veins, necks, sometimes collarbones, etc. I remember seeing similar shit in the female gaze thread though so maybe it's kind of normal?
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1. [+830, -72] Isn't that a side effect from double eyelid surgery..? She did get her eyes done before
2. [+819, -76] That's a side effect of double eyelid surgery ㅋㅋㅋ
3. [+343, -48] There really are some people who sleep with their eyes open ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
4. [+33, -13] I don't think I've seen anyone who sleeps with their eyes open when they haven't had surgery
5. [+31, -4] ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ It's a side effect of double eyelid surgery. There's not enough eyelid skin left after the surgery so the eye doesn't close all the way.
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i remember that new weird girl that joined kara slept with her eyes open too
she scared the fuck out of me in general but that added a whole new layer lol
Right? Considering how koreans do that surgery all the time it never occurred to me that there are actually creepy ass side effects like not being able to fully closing your eyes ever.
This is black mirror level dystopic.
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What the absolute fuck is wrong with Kpop Idols. Can they stop touching their face for 5 fucking seconds? Why fuck up your face when you are already chosen to debut? You made it! I don't understand.
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this is absolute nightmare fuel>>28575
Lol ratmies proving themselves to be literally the most deranged and idiotic cult of fans once again
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I never understood why fans would wear these.
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Holy shit, Tzuyu's expression here…
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They changed the shape of his eyes to give him rounder lids and it looks totally wrong. Korea cant even tolerate heavy lids on hapas FFS
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Does anyone remember when mina from twice was in this picture with that bambam guy and she got a bunch of threats from male fans including one male fan from somewhere in korea sending her a picture of a knife and telling her to either kill bambam or kill herself
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Correction: even nayeon's and jihyo's parts don't sound so bad in lower pitches
*not a twice-chan
what the fuck are bts' staff doing? they can't touch fans like that. it's borderline creepy.
also the fact that armys are still going "omg our bawby finally said that it's okay to call him oppa!!!" over this grown man is so cringy. shame on jungkook for fueling this baby shit.
Why are fans so adamant about calling him oppa, especially non-Korean fans?
They should be happy that for whatever reason he doesn't like to be called by something that older guys sexualise and get hard over when called that by younger girls.
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My guess would be it's this fugly dickhead
I hope they have fun performing it to half-empty venues.
SM believes this noise is what the general American public will like, and they honestly thought NCT could fill up a 20k seat arena by themselves - I wonder what it must feel like to be as delusional as the current SM executives?
Didn’t know that Mina received an actual death threat for that. Fucked up. After that inage came out, I’m sure Mina and Bambam were more than just friends at some point assuming both are attracted to people of the opposite sex. The way they’re posed makes it look like a couple’s photo.>>28602
Someone edit this inage with a funny caption and it’d be a good nomination for the next threat pic.
Did they have lots of empty seats for this venue?
Why can't they make actual hip hop style songs? That's what's trendy everywhere now. Nobody wants this outdated noise
it does sound pleasant. but they should really lose that obligatory rap part. are there even people who prefer songs with them?>>28627
i seriously first thought that was exo lol
From what I saw on Twitter the upper tier was all empty and so were some sections. People did show up but considering the venue has 20k seats total, even 10k attending looks embarrassing.
The other venues aren't having as much luck in selling at all and they are half the size of Prudential.
Judging by the level of activity and the content in the Men You’re Ashamed To Say You’d Fuck Threads on here, many women have standards for guys less attractive than Bam Bam.
Anyway GOT7’s music is such shit. They had so much going for them (big comoany to help them out with marketing, international fanbase appeal) but never quite took off as expected and I think it has to do with their music.