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No. 160853

Recommend books or ask for recommendations, share what you're currently reading or what you want to read, discuss favorite genres and authors, share reviews, etc.

What have you been reading, farmers?

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No. 160854

I've been trying to read The Haunting of Hill House for over a year now. I read the first half which was a bit of a struggle. I keep telling myself I'll finish it, but every time I start to read it I just get bored as hell. The audiobook is free on youtube but it's narrated by a man whereas the story is told from a woman's perspective which just kind of takes me out of the story. I told my parents I would read it and we could watch the show together but I'm thinking of giving up.

No. 160855

There's this version that is narrated by a woman, you could try to find it free somewhere

No. 160858

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Currently I'm reading the secret language of butterflies and the selfish gene. Also about a third through Charles Darwin's autobiography but I've been taking long breaks with it. Earlier this year I finished American psycho, gone girl, do androids dream of electric sheep and how to change your mind.
I really like reading non fiction but it usually takes me longer to get through, so I end up finishing more fiction titles. I wish I read more often but I'm still happy I've put aside the time to finish at least a few books this year!
I wonder if it's normal to forget books quickly after reading them? I love the experience of reading and being in the middle of a book but I feel like I hardly retain much of the contents afterward, like I can remember ideas that struck me, the tone and certain imagery I imagined but not much beyond that. Basically if I wanted to have a conversation about a certain book it would have to be right after I read it or else I probably wouldn't remember it enough to discuss it. Anyone else feel this way?

No. 160859

OT but that pic is so cute! Wish I had it when I made the thread lol

No. 160872

I definitely get what you mean, I found that taking screenshots (for ebooks) has helped me memorise the parts I want to remember (or just taking pictures of the pages/bookmarking for physical books)
Also since I started a Goodreads account I love to catalogue my books and read the reviews by other people in order to get somewhat of a conversation/opinion about the books I've read.

No. 160881

awesome, thank you

No. 160886

i feel this way too. i started a book diary, in which i just write the title, author, start and finish date of the book and then write a page of my thoughts/feelings about the book. idk if it helps though. it might also be that i just read too much (i'm on book 50 for this year and i started reading avidly at the end of march/beginning of april this year). or maybe some books are more like mental fast food than others.

No. 160892

Now I want to get a cute notebook and do this too

No. 160893

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I know a lot of people in these threads aren't fans of young adult novels, and usually I'm not either. But damn, this book really speaks to my cringe, younger self. Only about 25% through but would recommend if you want a book about a dorky introverted college girl.

No. 160894

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Oh my god, it's by that bitch who only writes cringe ya about fangirls or hot yaoi bois. i cannot imagine being a grown woman skilled enough to be an author and write this drivel.
Having said that, enjoy your book, anon. Nothing against you, but my reaction is visceral.

No. 160895

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I've one ever read one of her comics, Pumpkinheads its about a really fat girl who gets pairs with a handsome male MC

No. 160896

slightly related to this, but i absolutely hate this development of fanfiction becoming literature. i don't know how to explain it better, but sometimes i see descriptions of ya books and i just know it's written by someone obsessed with (writing) fanfiction. the couple/love story always just seems so conveniently perfect for each other and like a tumblr headcanon post. the other day i saw the synopsis of 'a touch of darkness' and i just cringed because it was oozing tumblr roleplay aesthetics.

No. 160899

Please recommend me fiction books about witches

No. 160900

I'm reading the Hunger Games and I'm halfway through the third book and it's taking me so long I can't wait to be done with it to start reading something else.
I liked the first two, read them in less than a week, though the second gets a bit boring at times, but this one is taking me a while because some parts get so tiresome that I just skim through it, regret, go back to properly read it just in case I missed something important, but the only things I'm missing is Katniss overly dramatic internal monologue that she keeps repeating and repeating, giving me nothing of value.
I'm starting to dislike her. She has no personality, or at least none that I can feel, if that makes any sense. She doesn't feel like growing, just the exact same person she was in the first book. Feels like nothing about her changed even though everything changed in her life.
I guess I'm too far in the book to expect anything to change now.

No. 160902

I know. There is a local (Polish) author that is like this and she writes bullshit YA about a girl who discovers she's trans or an enby because she's always been a tomboy or something. Of course she's being praised to high heavens.
OP of >>160894 to be clear. I'm conflicted about voicing my hatred for this type of shit because I know that girls and women hardly get media pandering to them (I remember watching My Mad Fat Diary years ago and rolling my eyes at how people were outraged that the heroine gets a realistically attractive guy in love with her), while scrotes get bashed in the head with 'your personality is all that matters!!! you DESERVE a supermodel gf throwing herself at your feet!!'. But I personally really dislike the post-fanfiction writing.

No. 160913

I totally get it chief, the work is definitely very tumblr-esque, but it's also like junk food for my brain. Sometimes my brain needs a breather from "good" or "high" literature.

No. 160929

Those dudes looks like a mix of Kylux, Newt Scamander, Doctor Who and Highlander lol definitely screams of fanfic

No. 160939

Anne Rice - Lives of the Mayfair Witches

No. 160943

IDK, the third book also was a boring read to me - I'm not sure how much that was intended, to 'subvert expectations' and hit the reader in the head with how miserable the war is. Katniss is clearly traumatized there though, so I wouldn't say she has no development/personality

No. 160946

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Does anyone read Neil Gaiman? I read 2 children's books by him (Coraline and The Ocean At the End of the Lane) and was quite happy with them. I thought I liked him as an author. Cute whimsical childish writing with a hint of horror.

However, I read some adult oriented works by him (Neverwhere and now going through Stardust) and it made me lose a lot of respect for him. Manic pixie dream girls, awkward sex scenes, boring doormat male protagonists. Why is it like this?

No. 160949

Now that you put it like that, I realise I feel the same way. I haven't read that many of his books, but yeah the children ones were better, either way I think he is at his best writing comic books

No. 160963

he wrote some cool shit (mostly coraline), but he's a cow, a gross male libfem (he wrote an essay defending the right to own lolicon) and also wrote coomer shit. I'm still haunted by the short story about a gargoyle created to keep the male protagonists's heart safe (?) using clay and his sperm. Gross!

No. 160980

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I think I would have agreed with this disdain a couple of years ago, but now, tbh, I think it's ridiculous. What about any of this is cringe? Men write about geeky teen protagonists based on their young selves all the fucking time. Fandom and fanfiction are a big part of a lot of young girls' lives. What exactly makes us so uncomfortable with art that reflects that, and is aimed at those same young girls? What is actually, specifically "cringe" about that? Why don't men feel embarrassed when their most earnest, dorky high school shit is looked at, even though it's a lot more gross, violent, and creepy?

I'm not a big YA person, and I actually do find myself irritated now and then by authors who "feel" fanfic-y. But I read Fangirl years back, and it was a charming, breezy college romance about a girl who is like a whole lot of real world girls. Carry On bored me, because I don't find gay male romances interesting, but it was a solid little fantasy story with an interesting origin. What makes it drivel? That we know yaoi/slash/whatever is something a lot of girls find hot? That the boys are depicted as attractive? We are literally constantly living in the fetid cave of What Men Find Hot. And Carry On writes its characters with 500% more care and thoughtfulness than almost any male authors give the women they create. Who cares if these female authors are coming from yaoi fandom? Literally every man working in any kind of genre fiction spent his formative years huffing balloon-titted bro shit that is one thousand times worse in literally every respect.

I can't speak for everyone, but honestly, when I sit down and examine my "ugh fanfic/fandom-centered lit (especially ya lit)" reaction, I can't find a lot of decent basis for it that isn't just internalized embarrassment over liking cringe girl shit that is only cringe because it has nothing to do with irl men and is incredibly, nakedly earnest. Some of these books are poorly written, I'm sure. And I think a lot of like, attempts to "legitimize" fandom are stupid (as in, everything Aja Romano writes). But those are separate conversations.

Also, jfc, the Pumpkinheads girl looks fine. And women could churn out a pile of books pairing female characters who aren't conventionally attractive with hot dude mcs every day for a hundred years and not come close to the male equivalent. Who fucking cares if a fat girl reads this and enjoys it? Does it make you feel better to know that irl men are definitely going to keep making her feel like shit?

No. 160981

I'm OP who posted about reading Fangirl, and I think these are actually some great points.

I still think the protagonist of Fangirl is "cringe" (she's nice but socially awkward, afraid of drinking/party culture/growing up, prone to emotional outbursts and feeling excluded, likes yaoi) but that's why I find it refreshing right now.

I think it's great that a lot of female authors are writing cool, powerful, effortly badass heroines, but it's a breath of a fresh air to read about a protagonist who's just NOT cool (and hasn't done anything particularly Mary-Sue at this point in the book, aside from talking to 2 attractive boys.)

She spends a lot of time moping around in her dorm while everyone goes out to party or overanalyzing social interactions with other people, but damn, if that wasn't me at many points in my life. It feels nice to see it expressed in words.

It's not "high literature" but it still strikes something in me that many authors wouldn't be able to. I can still 100% understand that it won't be everyone's cup of tea.

No. 160985

I haven't read those books but I love this post anyway, well said anon.
>We are literally constantly living in the fetid cave of What Men Find Hot.
This particularly resonated with me kek.

No. 160988

honestly carry on is cute but it didn’t need to be a trilogy (and i don’t think the author intended for it to be one) so if you’re in the mood for a low stakes funny and lighthearted fantasy/romance i would recommend it. i think it’s very much an intentional homage to harry potter and drarry but it’s not like a copy paste fanfiction with the names changed.

No. 160989

honestly neil gaiman has been pissing me off with his commentary on the good omens tv show. he at one point was very staunchly against gay romance interpretations of aziraphale and crowley but now that he’s realised he can rake in praise and money from queerioes he’s been hardcore pandering to non binary and asexual people. also pretending that the textual homophobia in the good omens book was all part of his plan to give people lgbt representation. i would have so much more respect for him if he just said ‘yeah me and terry thought homophobia was funny that’s why we wrote so much of it’ and left it at that.

No. 160990

Tbh, I really don't keep up with most authors. When I first read Nail Gaiman I thought he was a wholesome children's author. It's a shame he doesn't seem to be a great guy.

No. 161017

You have a point (said almost the same thing >>160902 here, idk why you have only quoted my first post), but I will never like those books. I hate YA and I hate this kind of wish-fullfilment, #relatable crap. But if other women enjoy it, more power to them.

No. 161032

I read Good Omens and Stardust but this was like a decade ago so I don’t remember a lot about them. I never got around to Coraline because I found out about it after reading Thief of Always and they sounded kind of similar.

No. 161041

Recommendations for books that get you in an autumn mood? Whether it's chilling horror books or cozy warm poetry/fiction/etc.

No. 161064

wow thats impressive! and such a good idea if youre reading that much since surely youd want to remember what you thought of the book, i might steal your idea as well thanks for sharing!

No. 161087

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A lot of these involve animals… Maybe because autumn always evokes the image of those quaint pencil illustrations of animals in children's books to me for some reason, but also included some horror and classics:
>BUNNICULA by Deborah and James Howe
Fun children's book about a cat and a dog who try to figure out if a newly-adopted rabbit is a vampire.
A girl visits an old abbey, expecting it to be just like her favorite Gothic novels, to hilarious expect.
>WATERSHIP DOWN by Richard Adams
A group of rabbits look for a home, but it's not easy!
>REDWALL series by Brian Jacques
Comforting, warm read with delicious descriptions of food. Nostalgic feeling.
>FRANKENSTEIN by Mary Shelley
A classic that still holds up, and is actually quite short! Definitely read it if you have the chance. If you really want to get into the mood, you can also read some poems by Shelley's husband or other contemporaries. Keats is definitely my favorite.
Another classic. The Kate Bush song is also good.
>TAILCHASER'S SONG by Tad Williams
A cat goes on an adventure. Sort of like a more sophisticated version of the Warriors books.
>THE CORN MAIDEN by Joyce Carol Oates
Some teenagers abduct a classmate for a bizarre ritual. Haunting imagery and prose.
Essential horror! A governess cares for two children at a remote country home that may be haunted. Coincidentally(?), this one also has a Kate Bush song written about it.
>THE BEAR by Andrew Krivak
Comforting, post-apocalyptic story about a father and daughter.
>HANGSAMAN by Shirley Jackson
Strange book that is rather different than her other works. Her other novels have been recommended a lot in these threads for good reason and are also good reads for autumn.
Last book of the Moomin series. Even though it's a children's novel, it's startlingly melancholy and very beautiful.
>GOBLIN MARKET by Christina Rossetti
Just a fun poem about two sisters.

No. 161088

Awww, thank you!! Definitely going to check some of these out in the upcoming months! Bless you nonny :) others, feel free to drop autumn favorite recommendations as well!

No. 161130

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go for it, nonnies. i use picrel (the brown one, they're from a brand called newestor) but once it's full i wanna get a cuter one. flame tree publishing has really cute moomin notebooks.

might be very obvious but i find harry potter books very fall season-y, probably because that's when the new school year starts at hogwarts.

No. 161136

very good points anon, what you say is true and i think a LOT (if not all) of women who dispute this do it out of self hate and repression. personally i do think it's weird to be an adult who is still into whatever their hormonal teenage selves were into, but i also find it infuriating how men are allowed and even expected to do this but women are mocked for it. middle aged men can watch star wars and fawn over the female characters they crushed on as teenagers, but god forbid women write some erotic fiction that caters to their own interests. and as you said women are never even close to as creepy about their horny interests as men are. whenever i see people sperging about shippers and whatnot, i think about how the woman who wrote brokeback mountain got a shit ton of porn fanfiction sent to her by adult men. people act like this is a female "issue".
>The film's popularity has inspired numerous viewers to write their own versions of the story and send these to Proulx. In 2008, Proulx said she wished she had never written the 1997 short story which inspired the film, because she has received so much fan fiction presenting alternative plots: [The film] is the source of constant irritation in my private life. There are countless people out there who think the story is open range to explore their fantasies and to correct what they see as an unbearably disappointing story.
>She said the authors, mostly men who claim to "understand men better than I do", often send her their works: They constantly send ghastly manuscripts and pornish rewrites of the story to me, expecting me to reply with praise and applause for "fixing" the story. They certainly don't get the message that if you can't fix it you've got to stand it.

No. 162235

anyone have recommendations for fantasy books or series (that are not YA) written by women? preferably ones that are finished, I'm not interested in reading a half done series. I think the only ones I know of are morgan llewylen, robin hobb and ursula k leguin. please no poppy war and not interested in reading marion zimmer bradley either.

No. 162362

The Priory of the Orange Tree - the author described it as feminist retelling of Saint George and the Dragon, if that's something you're interested in. There might even be a sequel coming but it's so massive that it's honestly like 2-3 books in one

No. 162637

Deep secret by Diana wynne jones, first in the series and my personal fav!

No. 162643

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I gotchu
>The Sharing Knife by Lois McMaster Bujold
>A couple from N.K. Jemisin (Inheritance & Dreamblood Trilogies)
>The Faded Sun Trilogy by C.J. Cherryh (more sci-fi than fantasy)
>Twelve Houses by Sharon Shinn
>Sevenwaters by Juliet Marillier
>The Winternight Trilogy by Katherine Arden

Not series but good:
>Circe by Madeline Miller
>The Goblin Emperor by Katherine Addison
>The Winged Histories by Sofia Samatar
>Deathless by Catherynne Valente
>The Hearing Trumpet by Leonora Carrington

No. 162646


I'm seconding >>162362 and recommending Priory. It can be a bit of a slog to get through at times but I loved it. Two of the main characters are cool warrior women and there's even some lesbian romance thrown in there.

No. 162649

Thoughts on The Girls, by Emma Cline?

No. 162652

Don't remember it super well, but tbh I remember being a bit disappointed in it? I think I found the everygirl protagonist really bland, which was especially frustrating given how many interesting personalities were in the book. But I liked the premise, and some of the writing. I want to read the new book she has out, b/c I definitely came away from The Girls feeling like she had potential that just needed a little more development.

No. 162663

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currently reading lolita for the third time. i first read it at age 13 (thanks lana del rey) and reread it again in my final year of high school for english class.
this third time reading has been the toughest. i think as a teenager i was unable to appreciate how messed up the situation was. like i understood on an objective level that pedophilia is messed up. but just thinking about dolores as a 13 year old, with no one to turn to just fills me with dread. it’s hard to get through the book this time round because i just feel so horrified. it’s almost too much to contemplate.
words cannot express how much i detest how the book has been immortalized in pop culture and how it has been adapted to screen. hollywood is full of creeps and i can’t believe so many people were just like ‘this book about a pedophile raping his stepdaughter is actually a forbidden love story and the 13 year old was actually the seducer.” any adult who thinks this after reading the book either has piss poor reading comprehension or is a pedophile or pedophile sympathizer. or all three

No. 162676

I have the same experience as you anon, I love the book because I think it's genius dark comedy and a great manipulation of the reader, but whenever I bring it up online I get lectured by people who've only read quotes from it on Tumblr, or who have read it in a different language where the mocking tone doesn't come across properly. The other week my friend attempted to sanctimoniously 'correct' my point about the book and then said she had 'only read extracts'! But there's no way to understand Nabokov's actual intention unless you read the bit where HH is writing from prison, all the stylistic flairs made to make him seem unlikable, etc. Brain worms

No. 162681

I couldn't read it. Gave up after 10 pages or so. I feel like this is an idea that would need a genius to execute properly simply because the reality is much more interesting than a fanfiction about it with a normalfag OC added to it. Or maybe it would work if Cline wrote her novel about a fictional cult.
IDK how people can say that the book is sympathizing with Humbert or that it's a love story after the part where he almost rapes a 10 year old pimped by her mother, but only stops because she's fat AND the part where he admits to planning to breed Lolita for endless suply of the next generation of Lolitas. How the fuck is this supposed to be love???

No. 162682

yeah if you go into the book knowing that humbert is trying to manipulate the reader it’s so incredibly obvious what he’s doing. he mentions multiple times lolita crying when she thinks he’s asleep, the fact that she had nowhere else to go, the fact that she struggles in sex ed class at school etc. there’s even a scene where he makes her give him a hand job in her classroom after he just had a meeting with a school principle about how she struggles in sex ed class and he says he did it because he knew that opportunity would never come around again. he’s a horrible horrible man and this story reads more like a horror story and a love story.

i think dolores’ conduct at the beginning of the story when he picks her up from summer camp is the most misleading. if we are even to believe what humbert is saying at all, she was essentially playing at flirting because she believed she was going to go and see her mother. he deliberately waited until he had raped her and she was in physical pain the next morning to tell her that her mother was dead and then that kind of began dolores’ hopeless situation with no one to turn to for help.

No. 162686

You’re my kinda gal, and thanks for all the recs ladies. Saving them all.

No. 162738

What the hell, I feel like I've read tons of recs for this book before yet never encountered this description. I'm gonna get this out of the library tomorrow

No. 162771

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has anyone read priory of the orange tree? i've heard good things about it but the the fact that its 600+ pages kind of overwhelms me. not sure if i want to dedicate the time to it

No. 162819


Me! I'm the first anon who recced it, up in the thread and it's totally worth it. Great storybuilding, writing and characters. A bit of a slog here and there but it's honestly such a massive book so it should be expected but really one of my fav books I've read

No. 162906


Personally, I thought it was very underwhelming. It tried to be an epic fantasy with multiple POVs and locations like ASOIAF but fails to explore many of them in a satisfactory way making the whole worldbuilding feel rushed and bloated. The characters were really flat and I thought their inner lives and interactions were predictable and boring.

I also thought the romance had no chemistry at all and was overtly sanitized, giving me a bit of a "uwu unproblematic lesbians" vibe. The main character and her love interest also massively got on my nerves for the whole book, I think I liked one single character in the whole thing.

I was expecting a good, long epic fantasy with worldbuilding and a complex lesbian romance but by the end I was really disappointed. Maybe it's more for a YA audience, but I wouldn't know since I don't read YA.

This is just my grain of salt, take it as you will.

No. 162910

thanks for the feedback anons! i think i'll give it ~150-200 pages before deciding whether to keep reading or not. i like fantasy and w/w pairings, but i think the longest book i've read in the past 3 years has only been 450 max.

(also i am just now seeing other anons talking about it in earlier posts, sorry for not using my eyes)

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I finished the hunger games. Fucking finally.
I think there was no need for 3 books. Some monologues katniss give feel like wordcount boost. It seems like she is repeating the same thing over and over again, while some scenes aren't descriptive enough.
The ending was disappointing. I didn't really expect anything different from the movies, it's just the way it's written, it felt very rushed when most of the book was so slow paced, make the movie seem a lot better.
Anyway, I'm glad I'm done with it but I'm also feeling kinda empty now it's over.

No. 162934

Anon, there is a fourth book in the series. It's a prequel about teenage President Snow. It's okay, fun to read I guess and definitely not dragging like Mockingjay.

No. 162946

I heard about it but didn't really intended on reading it because I find Snow a boring villain. I guess it's because of the story being first person, gave the impression he was just 'the evil dude that does evil things'. Guess that's why he needed a book, but honestly I'd rather read about anyone else.

No. 162957

He's more interesting as a teenager, though he's woobified for most of the book, he gets evil at the end. It's fine not to want to read it, though

No. 163219

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currently reading pic related. i like it a lot so far, super easy to pick up and get sucked into. i've never read anything by this author, but might check out some of her work after i'm done with this! the writing is really good imo

No. 163231

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Looks interesting. I'm about to start reading Vicious by the same author.

No. 163232

Are these YA novels?

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currently reading picrel because i'm a basic bitch.

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I honestly loved reading Shades Of Magic by the same author, I’m obsessed with the characters and my best friend also loved the whole story.
I wish they made a movie of these books because I think it would be really nice, I want to see Rhy in action.

No. 163274

No they're adult. She does write YA under the name Victoria Schwab though

No. 163288

I'm reading it rn to prepare for the movie. I can't figure out if I like it or not? I keep taking long breaks but when I'm into it, I'm pretty into it. I stopped 3/4 though a few weeks ago and haven't felt the urge to go back to it yet.

No. 163401

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I read this in like one day. It has odd wording at times but overall is pretty good. It has a really beautiful aesthetic. Has anyone read anything else by the author? Or know any books similar?

No. 163403

I tried reading it once when I was 15 and it made me dizzy and dazed

No. 163414

ooooh i'll have to check these out. i really love her writing style (or at least, based on addie la rue) and the premise sounds promising

No. 163467

imo it was better for me that i watched the movie first because all the terms are so confusing and barely explained like the mentat thing, i don't think leto ever told paul that he was a possible mentat in the movie that i would have dropped the book a few pages in. i do like it so far, even though it's kind of dense and i'm going through it very slowly.

No. 163509

A vent.

Finally finished 1Q84 by Murkami and I've been angry for days.

What the fuuuuck is this pedo bullshit? What the shit man, 2 pages before fucking the guy said she looks lke a 12 year old in bed ahhhhh, and she didn't have pubes and hadn't started her period?? In the sex scene it LITERALLY SAID he couldn't believe his "adult penis" fit in her. I don't care if she was 17, though a 17 and 29 year old would still be fucking weird even if she was painted as mature (which she certainly wasn't!), this was BLATANT pedo shit, and I cannot believe how much it was lauded and in all the bestseller lists and shit for years. Who the fuck read this and didn't recoil in revulsion at that? Moreover, how did everyone think this is great?

I went on goodreads and didn't find much in the reviews. For bad reviews just that it was dry and boring? Yes, women were sexualised and very one dimensional in general, but wow. I'd have quit reading if I wasn't so far into it, and I'll never read another book by him again.

No. 163592

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What are your thoughts on The Book Thief, anons? I was gifted the book but don't know if I want to commit to reading the thing since it's quite long and I'm not really into YA.

No. 163594

I've never read it, but I have heard really mixed things about it. Some people love it and some people hate it. It is character driven and not plot driven. It's really meandering apparently and you already basically know how it ends from the beginning.

No. 163595

Didn't read the book, tried the movie but dropped it halfway as it seemed as cutesy wannabe tearjerker about WW2. No thank you, I'm tired of takes on the topic like this or The Boy In The Striped Pajamas.
YMMV, many people think that the novel is a heartfelt masterpiece so maybe read the first 10, 30 pages and decide if you should continue.

No. 163596

Damn this makes me sad. I love Norwegian Wood and his characterization in that book is stellar. Whaaat is with japanese literature and pedophilia.

No. 163608

i liked norwegian wood well enough but i had to roll my eyes that the main character had sex with like every female character. murakami really wanted us to know that he tears through pussy. it was just unnecessary.
i’ve read norwegian wood, kafka on the shore and 1Q84. i enjoyed the first two but i don’t know if i want to keep reading his books because i don’t enjoy the weird sexualisation of women.

No. 163610

You may as well read it if you got it for free, it's very well loved and highly regarded. It's popular enough that I read it just to know what the fuss was about even though I'm not interested in the premise. I didn't care that much for it but it didn't feel like a slog to get through either.

No. 163611

Many many years ago I got it and tried to read it, I just really disliked it? I don't remember much other than that I found the "Death tells the story" a lame gimmick and the writing in general was lackluster, I dind't like anyone and was very bored.

No. 163615

kind of want to read the divine comedy. is that dumb nonnies?

No. 163624

I gotta vent about some Anne Rice shit.

I've read the first three books in the Vampire Chronicles years ago and recently picked up The Witching Hour. I hate not finishing books but this one is getting to me because of the blatant pedophilia. There was undertones of it in Interview with the Vampire but with the whole "eternal child" thing I could excuse lines being blurred there plus at least Louis showed his guilt if I recall right. Anne writes these pricks in this book as somehow honorable, or that visiting children in a brothel is not big deal because they're living that life anyways, and sleeping with your daughter is fine because morality is made up and the rules don't matter. and now that I'm reading one of her works after learning about her awful erotica it's got me really, really questioning this woman and her fixation on pedos

I'm so uncomfortable and idk if I'll finish this book. If I see another instance of the bs from above I'm going to stop. I don't see anyone complaining about it either; everyone is just insisting you have to view the entire work as her way of "eroticly writing."

I feel like I'm going insane and everyone is a pedo because no one seems to mind how wildly uncomfortable this shit is.

No. 163637

I didnt read your spoiler. I was about to start reading it (literally just bought all 3 Mayfair witches books at a thrift store). Since you said pedo now I am afraid lol. But I have I heard several people say that IWAV was way too pedo-y for them.

Im afraid to read it now lol.

No. 163643

That's what pissed me off about the Girl With Tattoo/Millenium series. Blomkvist is some washed up middle aged man yet the author really wants to present him as some sex magnet

No. 163655

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IDK what to tell yo except I found picrel interesting.
I've read ITWV 10 years ago, and couldn't really get through any other of the Vampire books. The were too slow for my taste and it was hard caring about all those scrote characters, of which there are too many. I barely acquainted myself with Lestat and Louise, and now I'm supposed to also be invested in Marcus and Armand??? WTF

No. 163662

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I want to read something as good as The King in Yellow, by Chambers again. I liked HP lovecraft but after a while all his stories started to sound similar. I LOVE TKIY so much. I never had a book blow my mind that way.. Thx..

No. 163676

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not at all anon. don't be afraid to look up notes if you need it for context. from what i remember (had to read dante's inferno for a medieval euro history class), having some sort of background knowledge of medieval euro history helps a lot because there's some name dropping and references to what were current events

No. 163688

yeah sorry I should have spoiled almost all of that but I was one benadyrl in and sleepy lol. I will say, outside of the pedoy shit, the book isn't what I thought it was going to be, though it is well written. If you were wanting a lot of really spooky, cool witch shit, it is NOT in those books. It's very history dense. I'm sorry for being a spoil-sport anon, but trust me, it's egregious and unless you want weird sexual undertones mingled in with a history lesson, it's probably not the book for you.

I am filled with new disgust! Thank you anon. I seriously question the woman, she's written underage erotica before (I believe the book is Belinda) and I read somewhere it was because Anne herself was I guess interested in sex at a young age? But she glorifies it, it seems, instead of having any nuanced thought about it. And yeah, I pushed myself through Vampire Lestat and Queen of the Damned. There's great story in there, especially about these two spooky ye olde women, but Anne focuses so much on the fucking scrotes it's insufferable. I see now why she focused on Lestat (a simply awful character that I did not give a singular shit about) instead of Louis who was at least interesting imo.

No. 163689

Are you familiar with mangaka Ito Junji? He's very lovecraftian but I consider him better and he has cute cats none of them named racebait

No. 163693

i found a version that keeps the original story but translates certain things to modern english so i think i'll be picking it up! thanks anon!

No. 163694

I pretty much ignored the final scene with Reiko . Completely unneccessary and I would have vastly preferred they had just shared a final tender kiss kek

No. 163695

So many women are horny for all those scrote vampires and I cannot tell them apart. What even was Lestat's personality???

No. 163742

self important douche bag. That was the whole personality.

No. 163745

I always saw illustrations by him, but I never actually read the manga until now… This stuff is really supreeeme:) If you know any others please let know!! Just fyi I already house of leaves.(:))

No. 163850

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I've been reading a lot of Ligotti lately, picrel was pretty good. A lot of people recommend him to fans of Lovecraft, especially "The Last Feast of Harlequin," but after reading this I think a more apt comparison is to Kafka, which I actually prefer, with a bleak criticism of capitalism and bureaucracy, combined with tongue-in-cheek humor.

Does anyone have "dark fiction" recommendations? Gothic, horror, whatever is fine, but I prefer female authors and I'm just looking for something gritty and eerie in atmosphere. Gillian Flynn sort of has the tone I'm looking for but I'm usually not that interested by her plot/characters if that gives a rough idea.

No. 163865

I would say give Miéville a shot if you're okay with a slow burn story. Perdido Street Station is very similar in a way, it's a scathing criticism of capitalism/bureaucracy (Miéville is a Marxist and has a PhD in international relations, but I don't find his writing preachy) with some really funny moments amid the bleakness. It is a long book and about half follows the protagonists during their daily lives but set in a weird warpy Lovecraftian London essentially, which I personally found fascinating, but some people feel it drags. Once you move past the halfway point it does get pretty damn gruesome though, and now that you're invested in the characters it makes it all the worse. One of my favorite writers.

No. 163872

hope you end up liking it anon! let us know how it goes.

No. 163940

bunny by mona awad maybe?

No. 164258

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I recently read picrel and I really liked it. It's in a similar vein to books like My Year of Rest and Relaxation and The New Me which have been brought up in here a few times. If other anons enjoyed those and other books with unlikeable female protagonists then I recommend this one.

No. 164266

what it this about? it sounds like something a tranny would say so I'm off putted by the title

No. 164267

NTA it’s about this woman who makes a living taking fetish photos of men. that might not sound appealing but it was honestly pretty funny and fucked up. there is a trans man character which made me roll my eyes but the protagonist is kinda blunt about it so it wasn’t completely tranny ass kissing

No. 164366

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Just finished this.

No. 164372

What'd you think?

No. 164374

pancho villa

No. 164378

mexican jordan peele

No. 164436

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Reading my husbandos autobiography. It's really funny. He talks about how weird gay sex is and that he was told to stick a toothbrush up his ass to expand the hole.

No. 164777

I didn't even know he had an autobiography. I love him though

No. 165094

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So I just finished listening to this book. A little bit disappointed tbh.

The basic premise is that there is a group of 7 friends who are Shakespearean acting students at a fictional school. A character gets murdered and the protagonist, Oliver, went to jail for this murder. He's getting out after 10 years and the detective who put him there is quitting and asks what really happened so Oliver is telling him the story.

It was kind of pitched as like this dark academia murder mystery, but the ending was very predictable to me and there was a lot more focus on the relationships between the characters/bromance than any mystery or plot. I think I would have enjoyed it more if I had known that and not been expecting a really good mystery. Also the character that got killed was such a POS that I didn't really care who killed them. Another thing I didn't like was how this book felt kind of pretentious in the first half, and I'm not sure if that was more the writing or the narrator (or both) and had a lot of ridiculous flowery descriptions of things. And one of the characters has an English accent and the narrator did not do it very well in my opinion lol.

Click for major spoilers the friend in the group that gets killed, Richard, was a huge jackass who had been getting more and more violent/aggressive towards the friends. It was really obvious about halfway through who really killed him. The other friend, James, killed him basically in self defense. Oliver takes the blame for this because he loves James so much. Then James supposedly kills himself 4 years before Oliver gets out of prison, but leaves Oliver an ambiguous note quoting Shakespeare, and it's revealed that no one ever actually found James' body, implying he might still be alive. I almost DNF'd it because I was bored, but I did really like the ending.

No. 165188

i really liked the ending too and i thought it had the potential to be really good but i didn’t super enjoy most of the book. it seemed like a discount secret history by donna tartt lol.
when the bromance thing got introduced i had to roll my eyes because homoerotic elements are a staple of the dark academia genre. i can’t remember if they actually kissed though. i hope they did though.

No. 165325

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Has anyone read All Systems Red by Martha Wells? I have not read it but am on hold for it at the library. (Please spoil spoilers.) It is a sci-fi series by a woman, which is cool!

Also, silly but wholesome tangent, I just love choosing library books. I use an online public library, and I love browsing through books and choosing which ones to read. It's like online shopping, except I don't use money kek. I also get a small dopamine rush when I mark a book as "Read" on Goodreads.

No. 165369

I feel the same way. I had a library card when I was a kid, but fell off after going to college and moving a bunch. I'm so happy I remembered libraries are a thing and got my first adult card – it's such a joy to walk down to my branch on a pretty day and pick new reads. Totally the same feeling as shopping, but without spending money and supporting something really great.

Haven't read Wells yet, but I'm so happy to see her succeed and always hear good things about her books.

No. 165414

Any good nonfiction to listen to on audiobook?

No. 165416

Invisible Women by Caroline Criado-Perez is read by the author so I thought it was pretty good

No. 165434

The Warmth of Other Suns is really long, but the structure – it's three life stories from the Great Migration – makes it very engaging. Really interesting way to learn about a historical phenomenon I didn't know much about.

Dearie: The Remarkable Life of Julia Child is really sweet – if I remember right, the author admits to being a little in love with Child (not romantically, just really enamored of her as a person) and it honestly works really well. The whole book has this really wonderful wamrth.

I'm in the middle of The Heroine with 1001 Faces rn, and though it's a little dry, it's pretty interesting. It's a Harvard scholar's response to Joseph Campbell's Hero's Journey – basically her attempt to see if there's such a thing as a Heroine's Journey, and what it looks like. She's a major expert on fairy tales, which is making it a really rich book so far.

No. 165480

Any anons have nonfiction mental health book reccs? Self-esteem, confidence, general mental health, etc.?

No. 165489

I was recommended these by a counsellor in regards to stress, anxiety, mindfulness and time management
>The Relaxation Response by Herbert Benson
>Wherever You Go, There You Are by Jon Kabat-Zinn
>The Relaxation and Stress Reduction Workbook by Martha Davis, Elizabeth Robbins Eshelman and Matthew McKay
>How to Get Control of Your Time and Your Life by Alan Lakein

No. 165542

Nta but I love shit like this, since I've been actively working on my mental health my life is so much better (go figure right). Thanks for sharing!

These are some I've liked:
>Mind Over Mood by Dennis Greenberger & Christine Padesky
>Self-Esteem: A Proven Program of Cognitive Techniques by Matthew McKay & Patrick Fanning
>Becoming Bulletproof by Evy Poumpouras
>The Gift of Fear by Gavin de Becker (not only useful if you're actively worried about someone, discusses why you should trust your instincts and how to reduce general anxiety)

No. 165574

I have heard The Worry Cure is really good but I haven't read it

No. 165716

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I rewatched this recently and the pseudo-sequel Wiener-Dog which I liked a lot. It might be a long shot but do any anons have recommendations for books that are similar? I like the dysfunctional suburban setting and dark comedy that’s bleak but weirdly comforting at the same time.

No. 165814

Unironically one of the best books I have ever read. The guy was fascinating a real life robin hood but also a ruthless cold blooded psychopath capable of slaughtering entire villages of people.

More like a Mexican Teddy Roosevelt.

No. 165828

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I've just read Things Have Gotten Worse Since We Last Spoke. I'm not the anon who has recommended the book, though >>>/m/8561 I absolutely DO NOT recommend this if you have weak stomach – and even if you don't, I'm not convinced it's worth it. Content warning below because from OP descriptions you really don't know what you are getting into (not her fault, though – even from description, it's hard to imagine it's that bad). The book is not relatable unless you are a deranged psycho of an Armin Meiwes caliber. Also, YMMV on how believable the whole story is, since the relationship never becomes an IRL one.
>Full-on BDSM Master/Slave relationship over chat. I realize this is a dealbreaker for most farmers. Even if you are ok with that for whatever reason, it's a far cry from 50 Shades of Grey type kinky romance.
>2 detailed scenes of animal cruelty and murder/death. One features a cat
>a detailed scene of child torture and murder
>Nemu tier depiction of people decomposing after radiation exposure
>tapeworm infestation
>What TV Troped defines as Eye Scream – very predictable from the beginning
The fact that men are 'raving' about this makes me feel sick, since I don't trust them to see the story as a nightmare fuel. Also, there was no fucking reason the story was about two lesbians. The story might have been about a scrote and a woman provided the scrote was infertile. It would be much more believable. It seems like a fetish/shock value thing.

No. 165832

a cherry on the shit cake is what I've just read in a Goodreads review:
>Also, the author is LGBTQ and nonbinary
Non-binary really is a convenient excuse for scrotes being scrotes, isn't it? Reposting my comment since he is actually gay, IDK if it changes something in my perception.

No. 165835

Currently reading Dracula for the first time and I love the story, aesthetic's and how it's written. Can anyone recommend anything similar? I was thinking of reading Jane Eyre or something by Jane Austen but im not the biggest fan of romance.

No. 165841

Oh, that's a shame. I saw this book being recommended in the last thread too and the title got my attention, I had it downloaded and all but just hadn't gotten around to reading it. So it's just really gross and over-the-top trauma porn, huh? Disappointing, won't be wasting my time. I should've read the reviews before. Also it makes me deeply uncomfortable that a man is writing about a lesbian who wants to have a baby. It should be illegal for men to write lesbian characters.

No. 165843

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The Conspiracy Against the Human Race sent me into a mental breakdown. I still have a couple chapters left only because it's such a brutal book I need to mentally prepare. I struggle with the fact that it's all true.

No. 165844

I hated this too. I thought it would be interesting because of the premise (two women form an unhealthy relationship over the old internet) but it failed in every way. Totally agree with >>165841 about the pregnancy angst, it was so funny to me that a lesbian who has been rejected by her family, is poor, is totally alone, etc., when she’s asked by her rich gf what she wants more than anything says she wants a baby, almost right after they start talking. Then of course her gf is so very sad because she can’t give her that. Is the horror the result of her not being a man? Because I honestly think the author just had no other ideas as to what would compel female horror. When they sexted I remember laughing at how it was so obviously written by a man, it immediately devolves into BDSM and is overwhelmingly cringe.
It’s just a bunch of edgy gore with no purpose and both the protagonists say pseudo-philosophical things to justify it. At some point a salamander is killed by the protagonist and one literally says that a salamander is a symbol of rebirth. Like no shit.

No. 165849

Thank you. I was considering reading this book though I was a bit apprehensive because the author is male. Well, I guess that solves it. You can never trust a guy to write good female characters.

No. 165851

Your post intrigued me so I had to read this book. And god, it's so bad. The last quarter is exceptionally terrible, I probably read better creepypastas written by 15 year olds. Also as always, lmao @ anyone who gave this a book 5 stars on goodreads and wrote a "to be honest you have to have a high IQ to understand this novella" type of review.

No. 165856

I agree with the lesbian pregnancy thing. It escaped my attention because to me so many things were even worse, and the plot was insane (in a bad way). That's why it's vital to read literature analysis by other people. I can give one thing to the author: he can write truly visceral descriptions of violence and disgusting things. I almost vomited when reading about the meat. IDK if this is what I would like to be known for LOL.
>You can never trust a guy to write good female
But he's LGBTQ and non-binary, haven't you heard??? Totally same as lesbians!
>Also as always, lmao @ anyone who gave this a book 5 stars on goodreads and wrote a "to be honest you have to have a high IQ to understand this novella" type of review.
Someone suggested that crushedmarigolds was a man. Sure, headcanon it if you want, but I didn't see anything in the text that was suggesting it. HM, except from scrote shit like the panty thing.

If anyone has better recommendations for stories about online relationship and psychological power struggle in relationships, please recommend it to me. So far I found My Tiny Life about the first topic and a few non-fiction books about World of Warcraft. Plus one anthropologist one about Second Life.

No. 165866

I'm original OP who posted it, haven't read it yet but uhhh might still hate-read it because I have a strong stomach and it sounds trashy and entertaining Plz forgive me nonnies.

No. 165867

It's only 64 pages according to my ebook reader. You can read it in an hour or maybe even less, so you wouldn't be wasting a lot of time.

No. 165868

Doesn’t the crushedmarigolds being a man theory fall apart since the opening talks about a woman named Zoe being arrested after Agnes dies? It would have been more interesting though. I thought the Internet setting would be cool since there’s more ambiguity as to if people are who they say they are or if they’re telling the truth. The Sluts by Daniel Cooper is an interesting example of this being used for horrific effect, but it seems like in this book it’s just window dressing. I really thought that when Zoe was telling Agnes to do things that there would be some reveal that she had just been lying or something like that. Even if Agnes lying at the end or it being more ambiguous with the possibility that she hadn’t died and Zoe had just been left to wonder and feel guilty the ending would be better than what it is.

No. 165869

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So is the author an actual gay man or is he the tumblr kweer type?

Also, went back to read more of the reviews. Lots of passive aggressiveness (and just plain aggressiveness) in this woman's replies. This chain of comments in particular gave me a hearty kek.

No. 165873

Does anyone have any favorite beverages/reading spots/other reading traditions?

I looove making and drinking tea, especially while reading. However, I'm untraditional and like drinking cold tea no matter what the season, so I cold brew tea in my fridge.

Reading in bed with a tumbler of cold tea>>>>

No. 165883

I like to go on walks in a forest preserve near me so when I’m walking around I listen to audiobooks. Then when I sit down, I usually switch over to a paperback, and just have cold water. It’s also really comfy to just lie under a blanket on the couch with some quiet music and a good book. I don’t really drink a lot of beverages besides water but it feels so pleasant when you’re drinking or eating something that matches the book. Like apple tea when you read something autumnal.

No. 165897

iced lattes are my favorite drink so usually that. I used to be a big tea drinker but I never think to make it anymore for some reason.

No. 165937

That's one hell of a description. I'm kind of on a kick of reading biographies about people I know nothing about, I think I'll check this out next. Thanks!

No. 165938

Haven't read this book yet, and I'm thinking now I probably won't. But reading this discussion is making me ponder a question I wanna put to the thread at large: what do you think this kind of super out-there horror looks like from women? Does it exist yet?

I ask because I feel frustrated rn in a way I hope some of you might recognize. I've always been drawn to horror like this, but I'm pretty much always disappointed. When I was younger, this really confused me, because I felt simultaneously bored AND upset by books like this. And I knew I wasn't upset by them out of like, purely shocked disgust – I was interested in reading dark shit, but what I found was never actually what I wanted. Now I understand that this is largely because horror is often really gendered, and male horror is really fucking tiresome and mundane and exhausting a lot of the time. But I still hear about books like this and think "!!! maybe this time!" Does anyone else feel like that?

For female avant-garden ultra-intense horror/dark lit like this….I'm struggling to think of many examples, but I feel like there must be more out there than I realize. I'm the anon who first brought up Lisa Taddeo's Animal last thread, and I think that definitely counts. I'd also say Kyoko Okazaki's Helter Skelter, and Sayaka Murata's Earthlings. But everything else I can think of is less edgy – like, I love the Haunting of Hill House, but I want some primal scream stuff, you know?

No. 165948

I usually drink water or coffee. If I feel like it, sometimes I will make an iced breve sweetened with honey.

The Murderbot novellas are very fun but also overrated imo. As long as you ignore the hype and don't have your expectations set super high, I think you'll enjoy them.

No. 165966

I read All Tomorrows because of this video and it's honestly one of the best and surprisingly moving books I've ever read.

No. 165974

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Same, really enjoyed it.
Can I get some nonny-reviews on Zadie Smith writing? I finally gave White Teeth a go because my literature professor couldn't stfu about it. I was disappointed, found the book really boring and arrogant

No. 166000

I loved NW because the dialogue was so realistic and well-written, but the racial politics just seem overdone now after 2 rounds of BLM. I think it must have felt a lot more unique and insightful back in 2012

No. 166036

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I don't know if I'd necessarily call it horror, but Ice by Anna Kavan is an interesting one. Apocalyptic, unnerving, and dreamlike.

No. 166091

I hated White Teeth. I had to read it for one of my literary theory classes, and to date it remains the single most pretentious thing I have ever read. The prose is intended to be quick and snappy and clever but the execution is just a huge fucking mess

No. 166171

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Since we are talking about horror by women, this is an indie book I just read. Very short, 34 pages. I don't want to spoil too much but it's about lost media. Not bad! I really like the cover.

No. 166351

lately when i read at night i have a cup of hot coffee (decaf) and read on my couch.

if i have the day off i'll go to a botanical garden near me to read, stop for iced coffee and a sandwich to take first and walk around a bit and then read.

No. 166366

So cute and so relaxing, I wish I was you

No. 166381

I dind't get it. How did you understood the end of the story anon?

No. 166383

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I read Everyone in This Room Will Someday Be Dead by Emily Austin a couple of weeks ago and I think a lot of anons would appreciated it.
The protagonist is a late twenties lesbian women that can't keep a job, too depressed and obssessed with death to show up, and ends up pretending to be a straight religious woman to work at a church.
The protagonist voice is great and there's even some murder mystery mixed in the plot.

No. 166384


I'll look out for this at work, I work in a library and this interests me. Glad you enjoyed it!

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