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No. 466899
Lolita general:
>>>/g/208345Drama thread:
>>>/w/338177(shit OP and OP is spamming thread) No. 467229
>>467161if i'm not mistaken, she's from mexico. been out of the lolita world for almost a decade now but i remember she was insufferable online.
>>466914this looks like a really old picture of some girl i used to know back in the day
No. 467403
taobao and its consequences have been a disaster for the lolita community
>>467031why are men so fucking ugly
No. 467526
Omg yay I'm so happy, /cgl/ is so dead.
>>466900I am so sick of seeing her everywhere. Literally any website I visit for any content remotely related to EGL shoves her into my face. Ugly coords, ugly shooping, and the ugliest makeup that I have ever seen in my entire life. It doesn't help that every other word to come out of her mouth is classic ita-tier misinformation. Everything about her screams "I get everything about my personality from Tiktok." Guarantee she was an uber-normie until the pandemic tiktok boom, and there's nothing wrong with that, but it's obvious it was the case given that (and I can't stress this enough) godawful makeup that looks like a parody of every Deftones-listening tiktok teen that calls themselves goth. Sorry for ranting nonnies but I'm so sick of seeing her lmao, I think it's because she's doing both herself and lolita a huge disservice by insisting on wearing it like this. She'd look so much better attempting tradgoth or leaning fully into contemporary tiktok goth.
>>466903Fuuuuuug this all looks like actual garbage.
>>467416>the uwu we should just be nice mentality has caused undeniable amounts of damage to the lolita community.It's the #1 reason for the huge boom in itas in the past decade. Honestly lolita is going to stop being known for its actual silhouette and other trademarks very soon if I had to guess, and the people sticking to them are going to be seen as party poopers eventually. Or at least I'm scared of that happening.
No. 467686
>>467512Go read the lolita thread
>>467672Go familiarize yourself with the rules of cgl and the general state of that board, and think about whether you’d want to post there
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>>467379i agree with OP in that i don't think it's 'ita' but something's off about this one. It looks like the greens aren't actually that similar in shade but the colors have been tweaked to look like it matches more closely. her skin's the same color as her hair in the second photo ffs.
also i can't help but imagine her headwear is the result of someone upending a toybox over her head.
>>467526i genuinely do not understand why she chose to do this style of makeup except to be edgy. she looks like something out of a horror movie.
No. 467703
>>467403is it just me or did it feel like the price point used to be a gatekeeping method
like not in the 'no fatties allowed' way but in the sense that someone doing it for a fetish would rarely spend over $300 to fulfill that fetish. Now that the cost's been reduced to around half of that it's much more accessible to dudes who would have otherwise spent their cash on cheap satin sissy shit.
No. 467755
>>467703Definitely. And now that nobody cares about adhering to the fashion's guideliines, anything can now be lolita and you only have to spend $30 on aliexpress/amazon/shien to do it! Even bodyline and milanoo were better than the current batch of itaslop. I wish they would at least use taobao if they're gonna insist on nonburando, but that takes too much effort.
Unrelated, but who else is part of big ribcage and broad shoulders gang here? I am underweight and short but it's so hard to dress myself according to my body type because of how WIDE my upper half is. I hate how common sack dresses, empire waistlines, and babydoll cuts are! I'm so jealous of everyone with less severe proportions.
No. 468657
>>467755>i am underweight and short but it's so hard to dress myself according to my body type because of how WIDE my upper half is. I hate how common sack dresses, empire waistlines, and babydoll cuts are!just stop wearing sweet. problem solved.
t. another skinny lolita with a large ribcage measurement
No. 468847
>>467703It wasn't just the price point of the dresses themselves, there were brand events and comm events that required a lot more cash than the average AGP was willing to drop. Plus the brand accessories, DIY dresses that were expected to be made to the same standards as brand dresses, color matching, different petticoats for different skirt shapes, the shoes, and other things like wigs and makeup and nails to complete the look, added significantly to the cost, and they were expected to be part of the coord in some capacity. Itas were ripped to shreds and anyone who sauntered up to a meet in wrinkly Milanoo cosplay was ridiculed on every lolita community on LJ. Now we're all expected to be oh so welcoming to newbies who impulse buy sissy dresses on Temu and don't understand why it's different to BTSSB. Of course disgusting troons feel comfortable in lolita. Kids and moids shit up our spaces and we're expected to cheer them on instead of kicking them out.
Honestly even Taobao didn't destroy lolita in the 2010s when it took off. Patterned tights, those halo headdresses, peignoirs and veils were often bought from local sellers or thrifted. There were spreadsheets going over the quality of the pieces from the popular Taobao sellers. Taobao lolitas were the new Bodyline lolitas but they were still expected to put in the work.
Now it's easy to buy all of that with no research, turn up in pesticide laden polyester knockoffs, do a skirt spinny no undies in front of the underage girls, and get all the asspats in the world for it.
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>>468838I only use instagram and pinterest for my lolita inspiration nowadays. I'm tired of seeing men and itas. A lot of itas genuinely view lolita as a costume rather than actual clothes and as a competition to try and make the most elaborate and most uncomfortable looking co-ords possible. I am sick of seeing try hard co-ords with demonias, harnesses, greasy hair, ill fitting dresses, morbid obesity and ugly heavy makeup. I generally don't like OTT outfits as it is anyways, i like boring ass old school outfits and i HATE creativity. This desperate need for creativity is what's fueling all these fucking itas. The fact that lolita is supposed to be cute and elegant is lost on itas who are obsessed with being as edgy as possible. This is not the space to try to be special or unique. I can't fathom opening up an gothic lolita bible and seeing a gorgeous moitie co-ord and thinking it would look better if Mana was wearing poorly applied green lipstick, musty leg warmers and rainbow fishnet. Every single one of these itas should just give up on being a part of the community and wear general alt stuff. Don't even get me started on the creepy agps, i am tired.
No. 469205
>>468917>itas genuinely view lolita as a costume rather than actual clothesI think this is a good summarization of the ita ethos in general, along with their perspective of there being no rules in fashion despite their wanting to be recognized as being a part of a specific subculture that does have rules. They're like trannies in many ways.
>demoniasI really like the mary jane offerings by Demonia, they're great for old school looks, but I agree that their huge boots look pretty bad in general but especially with lolita. I totally agree with all your points and I think the main issue with current itas is that they DO see lolita as extremely alt so to them that means it must go well with fishnets, 4 inch boots, and hot pink hair.
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>>467395It’s still cheaper than brand but it’s not at the shein tier prices they’d like
This is one of the only taobao dresses I actually want (it’s usually sold out though so I haven’t had any luck yet) and even then it runs for 80 bucks compared to the typical 20-40 you see on the app for costume wear.
No. 469640
>>469588Cute, needs a cape or bolero and different shoes
>>469379Her danger hair would look great in a coord if she curled it or straightened it. Looks like she takes good care of it which is better than the vast majority of itas
No. 469730
>>469379People would go crazy for this if she had sausage curls and platforms kek.
>>469588I think this is fine and cute, it's pretty obvious she's going for an old school vibe with the blouse, tame silhouette, headdress, that skirt print, and all the raschel lace. Agree with the other anon that different shoes would be better (chunkier!), and imo a different bag.
No. 470548
>>470171I don’t think I do? At most maybe I posted it another thread one time months ago
You guys are such hyper autists goddamn.
No. 470764
>>468917>a lot of itas genuinely view lolita as a costume rather than actual clothesBecause there is hardly anyone that wears lolita as practical everyday wear. It might as well be a costume. Even the toned down classic lolita silhouette will still draw the attention of normies who are wondering why "you're so dressed up?" Put a pastel vomit taobao ita next to your best dressed brand and normies will think they are costumes with the only distinction being that one better coordinated their costume than the other. You might as well be creative and have fun with it because people aren't taking you seriously anyway.
I know this is a hard pill to swallow, but it's the truth. Ita has nothing to do whether someone finds the fashion to be 'costumey' or not, I assure you that the taobao itas have as shit fashion sense in their every day wear too and lolita is no exception for them.
But death to agps regardless.
No. 470911
>>469619Eyebrows should be as much a requirement as a petticoat.
>>470764It may depend on the lifestyle, but quite a few lolitas find the clothing suitably practical for every day wear. I do think meet-ups garner more "why are you dressed up?" questions than a classic (or more maturely styled sweet) lonelita encounters. Having people with anime-colored hair in the group likely encourages costume/cosplay questions as well, but the costume assumption is more due to having a mass of people dressed in such a way.
No. 471084
>>471083If someone does makeup like
>>466900, it is ita no matter how good the coord and hair are.
No. 471094
>>471083no that's wrong. ignoring your makeup/hair/grooming creates a weird cognitive dissonance between yourself and your clothing. lolita needs some level of grooming and ability to dress yourself to look good. that's why most perma-itas are always unkempt or greasy in improperly fitted clothing. lolita, and all subculture fashions are less about expressing your uniqueness through fashion and more about finding something that aligns with the you that you're trying to express. that's why
>>466900 always looks so bad despite her alright coords. she's creating cognitive dissonance with her edgy drag makeup.
No. 471124
>>470764I know this is gonna sound crazy to you but people use an alternative fashion to express themselves. Just because it's tacky doesn't mean it's costume-y.
>caring about what normies thinkgtfo egl
No. 471226
>>471094>lolita, and all subculture fashions are less about expressing your uniqueness through fashion and more about finding something that aligns with the you that you're trying to expressI think this ties in to what
>>468917 was saying. There is a disconnect between people who wear lolita simply because it is unique and attention-grabbing. They treat it like a costume and try wacky-zany things to make themselves the most unique of all lolitas, while also often engaging in mannerisms that are in direct contrast to the image of the fashion (screeching inappropriate language in a cafe meetup, the whole slew of edgy oldschoolers who take pictures posing with dead animals they find in a ditch or their own urine). To them, lolita is another avenue for getting attention, with the end goal of being the #1 most unique person on the planet, hence their need to differentiate themselves from other lolitas. This is different than someone who wears lolita to express a version of themselves. They aren't seeking attention and are happy to wear lolita even if no one else sees them. The clothes just happen to suit their tastes and reflect their aspirations.
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/DE2i7_-ufKlThe fat troon has the shirring beyond maxed and doesn't even have moobs wtf
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Over/under on if he wore a diaper to AP Paris too?
No. 472286
>>466982I live in a smaller city where any sort of unusual fashion is rare and people were telling me about a particular other girl in town who ostensibly wears clothes like mine. I eventually saw her on the street and I had a similar reaction as you, she turned out to be all in on that sort of cheap, vaguely lolita aliexpress-tier garbage but there was something cute and charming about it anyway. Maybe it's because she's just someone having fun on her own in Middleofnowhere Midwest and not an obnoxious TikToklita loudly invading lolita spaces for clout but it was weirdly nice to see someone trying even if her coord was terrible.
>>468009A good wig with bangs would easily fix hair issues in a lot of cases and I think the makeup wouldn't even be such a big issue if she had a fitting hairstyle.
Unpopular opinion but even no makeup is honestly just fine in a lot of simpler coords, although good skincare and grooming become crucial, which is what itas miss. It's skipping basic hygiene and poor styling skills that really ruin a coord, not just lack of makeup… Unless you're doing insane clown drag makeup like a lot of people are, for some reason, I guess.
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I know I'll get crucified for this by her fangirls but it's baffling to me how extremely inconsistent in terms of quality her coords are.
They're such a hit or miss. She has so many incredible coords but recently when it's bad it's really bad despite her wearing exclusively burando.
I feel like her coords have gotten slightly worse over the years with her drag and e-girl fashion bleeding into the lolita stuff.
So many of these could be fixed really easily too. Picrel would be a cute casual coord if it wasn't for the hair which I guess shows the importance of details when it comes to lolita because it really does so much worse because of it.
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i hate this groin so much. and of course his posts are the most liked and commented on CoF
No. 480559
>>478810I like her less put-together coords but i will never understand why she does her hair like that. It's fried, ugly, her punk shave looks… meh? and she probably has to put tons of effort into straightening it, if she can. I wish she'd go for a weird asymetric hairstyle with chopped bangs (no bleach), it'd look just as quirky but it'd be a better fit for her oldschool/proto-lolita style
>I feel like her coords have gotten slightly worse over the years with her dragYup. I hate this fad,
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i'm sure it's bows on the back of the shoes but at first glance they looked like tissues to me
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>>480548>>480549>>480550>tranny flagRuined the fantasy of having a cute twink bf to dress in lolita for me, ty
>>480327>open the thumbnail>this doesn't look too bad>scroll down>take a look at the shoes>ok, this is bad>notice the absolute state of the floorWhy do they take pictures of them standing in what look like fucking crack dens. Even if you're too damn lazy to clean your shit, just blur your grimy mess ffs. I don't understand why anyone would upload a pic like this online.
No. 485865
>>478810This isn't awful but it would be so much better if she ironed the cutsew and skirt first. Compared to her other coords it looks like she quickly threw something together.
>>481750>cute twink bf to dress in lolita for meKek I wish, men look disgusting in lolita unless they're vkei bandmen with feminine features like Sena or Mana
No. 485921
>>485865Agreed, I've also never seen a male look good in ouji (though to be fair I haven't seen a lot of the fakebois look great in ouji either).
I feel like it's very telling that 99% of moids who wear lolita won't even give styles like ouji or aristo a second glance kek. It's so obvious that they don't care about clothing no matter how much they say they're wearing lolita because they "love the fashion."
No. 488613
>>486082All the troons I've met through lolita gravitate towards sweet, it's uncanny. It's almost to the point that I feel bad for the 'normal' sweet lolitas. The AGPs/sissies and dd/lg kink communities are so gross and unfortunately that's all normies see when they catch sight of sweet lolitas: someone advertising their kink. It's even worse when they're a blue-haired genderspecials or itas in nekomimi because that REALLY makes the rest of us all look like we're there for the Steampunk & Furries Sex Party.
like newbies will complain about 'gatekeeping' and 'the laws of lolita' but ffs I do not want to stand next to some of y'all. and like it or not, 'gatekeeping' is part of all subcultures. If standards are so lax that ANYBODY is part of your subculture because they're wearing a knee-length skirt and a petticoat, that 'subculture' doesn't exist, there is no culture to it, it is simply a person wearing clothing. I guess that's what the new generation sees it as, but that wasn't always what it was.
and frankly the culture is part of what attracted me to it, if the whole thing was just 'human-sized doll dresses which cost a lot' I would still think they were beautiful but I probably wouldn't save up to buy and wear them in the same way I don't save up to buy and wear haute couture, because I don't feel any kind of personal connection to it.
No. 488908
>>488613This is half the reason I bowed out of the local comm, and I'm sure a lot of nonas here have the same experience. I had already made my friends, and it was just… really embarrassing to be seen with loud/obnoxious/unwashed genderspecials that have bad hair and can't style.
I think the problem is that a lot of newer lolitas don't have an interest in fashion outside of lolita, they just see lolita as an extension of their quirky internet animu persona. I think that's part of why the "rules" are enforced, it's an attempt to give people with no actual sense of style some guardrails so they don't look like garbage. Whenever you see people who wear EGL really well, I feel like they usually have a background in some other alternative fashion and developed a good eye from that. The other problem is that people try to make "being a lolita" into their personality, but don't have any other hobbies that would involve them in the subculture (visual kei music, sewing, embroidery, history, literature, art, film, fashion). So basically like you said, subculture is dead and everyone just thinks lolita is wearing $30 Taobao dresses.
No. 488948
>>488908>the subculture is deadalright we cannot give up that easily i don't care what the itas want
viva la resistance
give me some hope, nona, i want to believe
what do i need to do, start a YT channel or something? we need representation.
No. 489236
>>488908It really feels like a lot of newer lolitas learned about it through social media trends and are just playing dress-up for the AEsThetIC, they don't have a good eye for well-made dresses or any interest in lolita's roots. It's not about wearing cute or pretty clothes, it's just larp. They don't care if their clothes are designed with quality or wearability in mind as long as it looks kawiwi enough so there's no point in shelling out for brand. Comms then tolerate them hoping they'll improve, but they usually don't learn to dress because their view of the fashion is skewed from the very beginning.
>>489132No one is going to spoonfeed a newfag who doesn't even like the fashion. Just lurk more or look it up yourself?
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to actually get back on the topic of this thread: dear god why was this ever constructed
was it literally made out of bedsheets? i'm not even sure where you'd get printed fabric like this unless…
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>>489753These tacky novelty fabric monstrosities are honestly more funny than cringe to me, reminds me of the Guy Fieri coord
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>>489753>i'm not even sure where you'd get printed fabric like thisJoanns
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No. 495125
>>494153tbh i like the OTT arrangement aspect of it, too, but the editing makes me question whether it actually looked this good irl.
her skin is the same color as her wig in the 2nd photo ffs
i do think this qualifies as 'nitpick tier' overall though, it doesn't hurt my eyes aside from the deliberate oversaturation.
No. 495126
>>493958this reeks of cosplayer who has learned about the concept of lolita from small town anime conventions
are we sure this isn't from an idol anime or game or something? someone really made the attempt to style that wig in a specific way and the dress construction/skirt length is kind of giving cosplay as well.
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I saw this on r/Lolita and knew it was a sissy even before I went to his profile (the shoes and the face sticker are always a giveaway kek) but good god my stomach dropped. He looks like the walrus-human hybrid from Tusk. I feel like I'm going insane, why are these creepy moids allowed in our fashion but we can't publicly say anything? He's also in the ballet subreddit and keeps telling women to tag their photos as NSFW.
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>>499457>>499482A troon using a facesticker is like putting a tiny, cute band-aid on a pile of shit
>He's also in the ballet subreddit and keeps telling women to tag their photos as NSFW."Hey gurls!!! Did you know that you existing is totally a sexual thing for me? Just thought you should know this"
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special needs
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sweet rolls
No. 510412
>>510302Yes it is. They keep dressing their models like itas for some reason.
>>510368It does look like that. I hope someone wouldn't post an actual child though.
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The state of /r/Lolita is depressing.
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>>512545It's crazy how rare it is to see Honey Cake coorded well. I really hate when bold colors are paired with it. Maybe I'm nitpicking, but tan would do much better than a dark brown.
No. 512736
>>512545Nitpick, it's cute and the colors are well-balanced. A non-glittery purse and pulling the shoe straps down would have really improved it. Desperately needs to bleach the mold growing where the floor meets the wall.
>>512647I wonder if better lighting would improve this. The socks and bag look so offputting due to the yellowing. The style of bag is a bad choice regardless.
No. 512854
>>510364We need a precise scale for itahood. This is cute-ita, feels wrong to chastise her especially since she seems really young
>>512736Hmm. Her bag is cute, looks like candy and so it fits the food theme, but those shoes clash awfully with the red and white.
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>>512854Ayrt. I see what you mean about the bag, for me the glitter makes it stand out too much but maybe it's not so bad after all, I like the candy reference you made. The shoes match her hair and the black bows on her waist. They just need pulled down imo because the style doesn't fit, the color is fine.
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>>510246>>509054>>509052honestly I'd take a hundred hamplanet itas over a male wearing lolita. fucking disgusting. even if they do the bare minimum of keeping skinny they still look like hulking skinwalking beasts. I wish brolitas had tomatoes thrown at them for having the audacity to think they can invade a niche female oriented hobby.
Women need to be more catty and make these faggots feel ostracized and left out in meet ups, im so sick of this epidemic of males dressing up in amazon sissy gear to get ass pats and easy validation from handmaidens.
No. 513355
>>513066looks like baby's firs coord.
>>513064>>513065shit like this doesn't even count as egl in my book.
>>513115Men will forever look ridiculous in Lolita and I love it
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>gothic “”””lolita””””>>513115Ew what a walled scrote
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Whatever this is that Millna is trying to sell at GLM. It's ugly, and I hate that it keeps popping up on twitter
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>>516175A bonnet is a classic piece in Lolita fashion?
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>>517670 >>516165
It's terrifying but I wouldn't be surprised if that's her intended audience. She's also apparently into wearing animegao masks. It raises a lot of red flags for me.
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>>517929Yes, she is exhibition at the Gothic and Lolita Market in Harajuku and was selected as a main attraction
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No. 520384
>>520236So many try to do a, I’m assuming shiro coord but then pair it with off white?? What was she trying to archive? Also the shoes damn and as
>>520239 said leg warmers need to be forbidden.
No. 520606
>>520239Yep. The whole point of legwarmers is that it creates a cute silhouette when paired with shorter, less poofy skirts. Gyarus didn't perfect the look for them to throw it on an already busy style
>>516165Wow these are the very worst legwear pieces i've ever seen, ever, regardless of the era or style
No. 521386
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No. 521387
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No. 521452
>>521387The one with the bunny ears looks so cute and happy but unfortunately it'snot Lolita alt all. To the fatty on the right, is this the man that's currently discussed in /w/? Proof that AP is making clothes for fatties now.
>>521386Is the one on the left a mother chaperoning? Middle and Right one almost have potential, at least I get the direction. However something is off with all of them.
No. 521453
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No. 521454
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Another cream x white ita. The bathroom is so rory uwu
No. 521525
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>>521461>fugly make upexactly, you can really tell who hasn't seen one GLB or Kera even for inso. Even Tokyo Street snaps has some good lolita sometimes though probably more out of the box
No. 521674
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Can we post about ouji itas here? It's crazy that the fashion subcult is so small, but majority of what I'm seeing are disasters. Nowadays, it's overun with overweight gendies in Princess Chronicles and other cheap taobao brands.
What I hate the most is that none of them seem to care about grooming themselves or applying just the minimum amount of concealer to hide their acne scars and raccoon eyes. You would think that in a fashion where the goal is to be princely, that they would care more.
No. 522118
>>521461>womenThat's the troon in
>>521387 from the lolcow thread, that's why he looks off.
>>521674The bronzer mustache, I cackled
No. 522197
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>>521674God this is one of the worst I've seen. Another creepy looking male posting in r/lolita, complaining that his tailor-made outfit doesn't fit
No. 522198
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>>522197This was the outfit he was trying to squeeze into and show off.
No. 522271
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No. 522273
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The discription said she's a Lolita for 13 years. how on earth do you come up with a coord like this??
>>522271They look poly.
No. 522277
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I don't know how so many itas live completely unbothered by wrinkly clothes.
>>522273I can vaguely see the thought process in that kissaten jsk (which buying that when you can tell from the stock photos that the cut is bad is an ita enough decision on its own) influenced the kiki bakery purse (both are restaurants, featuring baked goods in the item), which then influenced the decision for the witch hat since kiki is a witch and the purse has red in it too (albeit a completely different shade). Like there's a thought process, but at the end of the day she should have looked in a mirror and realized that even though there were some connecting elements, it is not cohesive an doesn't work overall.
No. 522289
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I almost spat out my tea when I saw this.
No. 522295
>>522289surely this is someone with a humiliation kink. the lonely photoshoot of an obese woman dressed in dainty princess clothes chowing down in a fucking
taco bell is too much.
No. 522311
>>522295>fetishShe surely enjoys seeing herself eat how she's trying to bite the burger.
>>522297>Halloween coordSure but the coord is crap either way. The legwear, the shoes, the hat, idk what's going on in her cleavage/neck area etc. The jsk as a base could work but with different pieces complimenting it. Not a fan of Violet Fane.
No. 522419
>>521453I just saw this post on reddit lmao, almost thought it was a tranny
The JSK is cute, shame they couldnt coord well
No. 526701
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No. 527393
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I love "vintage" itahood. I don't know if it's the nostalgia speaking or what but it's actually soulful in comparison to today's maximalist ita style. Most of them probably coord just fine today because they have access to better pieces. I like that they radiate joy and excitement in every picture. And it makes me realize at least 50% of what makes a coord ita is 2010s millenial quirky makeup and hair choices. I would defend itas if they still looked like picrel
No. 527874
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No. 528022
>>527874agreeing with
>>528008, this isn't ita the girl is just overweight. a bit of lace on the vest to match the frilliness of the blouse would probably help and i agree about the tights but otherwise it's quite acceptable.
No. 528112
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>>527476today I saw this white x cream coord and really liked it! I think it absolutely works when it's not 50/50 of both colours and it's not an attempt at shiro. So other details of the coord should have a 3rd colour that balances everything and gives contrast.
I wonder if we should have a thread for good coods we like? I know the topic of coord sharing was discussed in the general already. I wanted to add that I also most of the time hate Tea Partys but I generally hate a lot of the shoe choices Lolitas make kek
No. 528190
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>>528112I second a "coords we like" thread, finding inspo on pinterest has been tricky after they banned the keyterm "lolita", egl works but it gets harder to find coords for substyles.
Teaparties are
flat mary jane shoes right? I imagine they'd be more comfortable but they don't look as good as a heeled mary jane shoe like picrel.
On the topic of shoes, I used to be neutral to rocking horse shoes since they're a classic staple piece, but after rolling my ankles in them multiple times and eating shit going up/down stairs I've grown to absolutely hate them
No. 528204
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>>528190Third-ing a "coords we like" thread, good inspo that isn't in GLBs can be hard to find! On the topic of shoes: tea parties are the flat mary janes that typically have a bow on the toe, scalloped trim and the crossed straps like picrel. I owned a pair when I was starting out in EGL many years ago and they're surprisingly uncomfortable despite being flat, the ones I owned were also extremely slippery on the soles so I ate shit in them. Surprisingly, this has never happened in my RHS kek.
No. 528235
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>>528204AYRT that sucks to hear, thank you from sparing me from investing into another pair of shoes that suck kek.
The goldilocks zone for shoes would be heeled mary janes, though they can't surpass 5cm otherwise I'll start stumbling. I think I struggle in platform shoes in general since I struggle to get a balance if my forefoot isnt on the ground.
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No. 528268
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>>528235AYRT, of course! Tea parties generally just don't do it for me. Have you looked into "normie" brands for shoes, like Clark's and Fluevog? I have a few pairs of specialty EGL shoes from Yosuke, but they all have pretty high platforms. I'm used to walking in platforms, but I have a pair of Clark's and a pair of Spring Step granny boots for when I have to walk long distances. Clarks and Fluevog specifically are very comfortable and make a lot of low-profile heeled mary janes and shoes that don't kill your feet, and you can find them for lower prices secondhand on eBay. Picrel are the Fluevog Kitcheners, I'm always on the hunt for them.
No. 528271
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Another permissible coord ruined by legwarmers
No. 528285
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>petite
jesus christ
No. 528291
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No. 528301
>>528265Why ruin the silouette with that Cardigan? I'm sure she can't close the zipper and tries to hide it kek
>>528271ESPECIALLY with tea parties they don't work.
>>528291Oh my, I'm sure the grandmas at church really liked it
>>528294This was already posted kek
No. 528310
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whatever that bondage bunny bonnet is supposed to be
No. 528312
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No. 528313
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>>528301shit my bad, heres another one as compensation
No. 528320
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>>528313being arrested for the leg warmers
No. 528338
>>528235This girl is so annoying, iirc she left a comment under one of those anon confession accounts about how lolitas being uncomfortable with AGPs is 'sooo cgl and twansphobic towards hecking
valid trans women'.
No. 528344
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what the FUCK is that skirt pattern
No. 528364
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STOP THE LEG WARMERS
No. 528611
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>>528598fun fact she has been wearing lolita since 2012 and is notorious for collecting replicas… no kidding I cant imagine she would fit in authentic burando in the first place kek
No. 528635
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>>528611Correction, not only has she been wearing lolita since 2009, she considers herself a
lifestyle. She was brought up in the /w/ threads and is an age player
No. 528640
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>>528635how she managed to get up only god knows
No. 528797
>>528611I can not fathom her mass holy shit. Also it's not Lolita anymore if you have no waist and you're just a ball with legs.
>>528635>age playerI could tell from the faces and poses she pulls plus sweet colour palette. These people are so transparent.
>>528364The fawn cape gives me flash backs kek
No. 528908
>>528364For me the bucket hat is the most egregious offense in this image
>>528635Calling yourself 'petite' at that size is uhh…wow. audacious.
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No. 528961
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>>528268Yes! Ive heard of american duchess and Memery. I just hope by the time I have the budget to afford proper shoes the quality control doesn't go downhill like what happened to doc martens
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>>528965sorry saw the wrong post you were replying to, yes its a moid
No. 529721
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>decent coord
>immediately ruined by ear gauges and septum piercing
why do nulolitas
No. 529728
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>>529721>"nu-lolitas" Nonna, lolitas have had piercings and body mods since the 90's. It's an alternative fashion that had associations with visual kei. You can dislike how it looks, but you can't claim this is a new thing kek. Picrel from J-Rock Groupies, published 2007. I'll post some more from my other lolita snap books.
No. 529736
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>>529728I've only seen large ear gauges on newer coords, I don't really like gothic/punk lolita so the most I've seen were ear piercings and maybe eyebrow/lip.
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No. 529737
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always the fucking leg warmers
No. 529742
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>>529736AYRT, I will say that I think you see nose and gauges less in older snaps because those are very "Western" piercings. Piercing trends vary by area because (in countries where they don't have actual cultural significance) they're largely influenced by counterculture music scenes. You see a lot more pierced JP lolitas with lip piercings I've noticed. I get annoyed when people pearl-clutch about piercings "ruining" a coord because IMO they genuinely don't have an effect as long as they're well-done, clean, and have good quality jewelry in them.
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No. 529746
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>>529742I dont mind piercings in general as long as theyre subdued and dont clash with the coord (e.g. gold jewelry but silver piercings) but I have a disdain for gauged ears in general regardless of fashion style. It screams trashy and reminds me of shay kek
No. 529756
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>>529746AYRT, I do actually agree with you about gauges kek. You will never forget the smell of those big gauges if you get up close to them.
I feel like septums unfairly catch a lot of flack because of their association with tumblrinas, though. When done well and worn with small clicker jewelry they're fairly subtle, and they don't leave external scarring if the wearer removes them.
No. 529761
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>>529756Yeah I can imagine a nose piercing wouldn't look too bad in a gothic coord. I wonder if anyone has worn pastel jewelry if dressing sweet with piercings.
I know youre posting pics as examples of pierced lolitas but I dont they fit the ita thread kek they get old school privilege No. 529775
>>529761Agree with you kek those are actually some of my favorite coords, I hunted that striped Cornet JSK down because I was obsessed with that snap for a decade.
I actually feel like I've seen a few sweet coords with actual cute pastel jewelry, if I can find them I'll post in the general or coords we like thread for you to look at.
No. 530237
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From Reddit, another addition to the legwarmer hate train. This girl is actually pretty, shame about everything happening here. Every layer of legwear just gets worse and worse.
No. 530244
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>>530237if there was ever a reason for hoverloli this would be it
No. 530368
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>>530288Shame its not her caloric intake thats limited. Thread tax photo.
No. 531833
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>Loliya dress
>troon
>drag make up
No. 531848
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not sure if this fits here but it's so nasty when online whores suddenly need to squeeze themselves into burando. She even got shared on the MmM story.
No. 531880
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two bros being dudes
No. 531975
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i know there are people who love her coords but the makeup she does is lowkey terrifying imo and the upended-bucket-of-hair-accessories thing always looks incredibly overburdened. the piss-yellow contacts for this outfit were uhh. they were certainly a choice!
No. 532075
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Her description says "unsure if this is sweet or classic" it's a mess is what it is. Never seen anybody max the shirring on literal Bodyline before.
No. 532247
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>>532011you weren't kidding. this is so much cuter too
No. 532310
>>532270nta but i've always thought
>>532247 style lolita was really cool. i never had the courage to wear it in public tho. it seems like the style is leaning toward extremely over-decorated coord now though
No. 532338
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>"Zombie ero lolita"
She glued fake teeth into her hair
No. 532411
>>532075You just know the cardigan is there to hide the maxed out shirring or open zipper kek
>sweet or classicThat actually made me chuckle
>>532338She needs to listen to the sign in the back
No. 532445
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I hope I don't ever share a farmer lolita itt kek
No. 532449
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I want to like her but her coords always seem off to me. Is it that they're to ott? I mean picrel is just a mess but some coords she does are almost nice.
No. 532481
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This one isn't the most egregious ITT but I just can't with the tights.
No. 532482
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No. 532510
>>532310>it seems like the style is leaning toward extremely over-decorated coord now thoughthis is funny because it actually isn't. maybe the last time you looked into lolita was the 2010s but old school and "proto" lolita (pls no arguments) have seen a resurgence in popularity since covid. i rarely see people wearing OTT styles anymore.
>>532449yeah this one sucks so it deserves to be here but otherwise i feel she's a little unkempt somehow? she would benefit from a face sticker or better styling.
No. 532618
>>532608i mean… yeah, you are an aspie because have you never been harassed or yelled at while wearing lolita?
and what do you do for work? i'd argue that some jobs might not take you seriously depending on what sub-style you wear.
as someone who wears lolita i completely understand why people are turned off from wearing it out of fear, especially if introverted or nervous. i feel like you have to like attention at least a little bit to wear it.
No. 532635
>>532608>>532618nta but why do you need to wear Lolita for work? Just wear it in your free time or once in a while. Not everyone wants to or can be a Lifestyler. Regarding people judging you: why would you care what a rando thought of you. Also they might admire you so give it a try
nonny.
No. 532979
>>532618i don't think it's that you have to like attention so much as it is that you have to not care about getting it when it happens as a natural result of wearing a very ostentatious outfit. if the proposed value of wearing/enjoying the outfit doesn't outweigh whatever negative attention a person is afraid of receiving, then wearing it just might not be for them. but they could consider themselves a collector/hoarder and just style fits on a mannequin or in their mirror without wearing it outside, I've seen people who enjoy the fashion that way.
i would say that whenever i wear lolita or otome, i know on some level that i'm going to attract some stares, but i just try to intentionally block other people's reactions out as much as possible and focus on whatever errand i'm running in the moment. you do have to develop somewhat of a thicker skin/dgaf attitude but that's good for people as just a general life skill imo.
No. 533187
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>>532510Interesting. I feel like the old school fad has been waning for a bit and that people are going back to sweet, but it might just be the algorithm on my socmed. As an example, picrel is always thrown into my feed despite me not following her. While I wouldn't consider her to be an ita, her coords just aren't to my tastes because I don't enjoy OTT, so maybe because I keep seeing OTT when I don't want to I have a confirmation bias that it's back in style.
>>532618>have you never been harassed or yelled at while wearing lolitanta, and not meaning this as a direct attack at you, but I have never had anyone yell at me or harass me in lolita, and I've worn it at least weekly for nearly a decade now. The closest thing I've gotten to "harassment" is that some people will ask why I'm dressed the way I am, which is hardly harassment, but more of a curiousity. I often wonder about what the circumstances must be like for lolitas who do get yelled at, since I see people online say it occurs fairly frequently. Is it a cultural difference for where they live vs where I live that people act like that towards them or what?
No. 533340
>>533187>Is it a cultural difference for where they live vs where I live that people act like that towards them or what?Where I live it is really realistic that groups of teen boys will follow you, yell at you, bark at you, record you and even spit on you for wearing anything out of the norm as a woman. It also even happens to normie women. I'm scared of wearing lolita out, especially alone because of it. I've personally witnessed spitting right in the face happening, and when i did wear lolita out I had men stop dead in their tracks on their bikes to glare at me while I waited for my bus, and then biked away when I got on the bus.
For ref I live in a scandinavian medium sized city, locals mostly dont care but immigrants (not trying to racebait) and teens can be insanely cruel.
It was nothing like this when I was a teenager in early 2010s, we could wear whatever without any harrassment.
No. 533523
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>>533340my heart goes out to you. i grew up in a city that suffered from the same problem and it makes me furious to even think about.
foreign moids who can't accept that in our culture women are human beings with the human right of existing unharrassed need to get beaten up (with a parasol, in minecraft).
No. 533981
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hashtag nonbinary
No. 533982
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No. 534016
>>534011hah,
>>534009 was meant as a reply to
>>533340 No. 534030
>>534016She said in
>>533340 she lives in a skandinavian town anon
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No. 534049
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No. 534075
>>533340Same same. Ime it's either non-white teens, adult women (they'll mostly record you) and odd white men (incl. AGP crossdressers) that look like reddit jannies. The teenagers are the most hostile group but the redditor types will follow you around. Medium-sized cities suck.
>>533523>foreign moids who can't accept that in our culture women are human beingsYeah. 1st gen are the worst, freshly arrived moids feel like they owe no respect to locals since it's not really
their society.
>>533981Xe looks like xe'd get really mad at a 15yo talking during a trans voices public reading session at the local library
No. 534078
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>>534061It was posted in the egl LJ community and that's a moitie skirt, sadly.
No. 534290
>>534242AYRT, you'd actually be surprised. But this also varies entirely based on geographic location, substyle, age etc,. I've noticed since I've hit my mid-20's moids have stopped hitting on me almost entirely, which is really nice (but also horrifying that I got hit on most when I was 18-19). I wear gothic or aristo most days when I'm not working and need to go out; I've heard from a lot of people that you get less attention in gothic compared to sweet, and I think that's very accurate to my experience. Men typically leave me alone, but I get a lot of compliments from women, especially women over 50. All to say, if it's specifically male attention you're worried about, I think most men that aren't AGPs don't pay EGL a lot of mind outside.
No. 535610
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"no crit pls" yeah i bet you could smell it coming a mile away when you went to post this picrel shit. Why can't these bdsmtards leave us alone.
No. 536142
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She said she wore this for work in an office.