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No. 402287
Discuss plastic surgery and your plastic surgery goals here. This is not a thread to brigade on regarding your dislike of plastic surgery - please create a plastic surgery hate thread to talk about that.
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>>401902You'll actually want to look at a genioplasty which cuts the chin bone and slides it forward. The model's pic you posted doesn't have a very recessed jaw, but she does have a a "short" chin in comparison to the rest of her face. Full side view photos would give a better comparison. But anyway, it's the short chin with the low gonions which is giving her that appearance. A short chin is actually considered a more feminine/youthful trait to have than a too long chin/lower third, so I'm guessing it's the low gonions which you're perceiving as masculine. I have a similarly shaped jaw/chin and honestly the worst part is how the rest of your face/soft tissue fits onto that rather than the jaw itself.
On another tangent, I'm getting perioral liposuction so my face looks smooth in my lower third. My consultation is in two months. I'm so excited!
No. 402641
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>>402336This is interesting as she's generally considered a great example of how plastic surgery can be subtle and natural looking in all the plastic surgery communities I follow and I agree. She's had a rhinoplasty and definitely a blepharoplasty to give her more eyelid space. I personally think the blepharoplasty made sense, I remember how much shit she got for having too "squinty" eyes in her younger years. In 2019, she definitely got filler, but I haven't seen her get overfilled like that since. I think maybe she may have look masculine because she was anachan back in 2014.
No. 403600
>>402983>they were okayFor how long? Were these people talking about their surgeries three months after having it, or three years after having it? To echo the other anon, you get what you pay for.
It's possible to go abroad and have surgery that's fantastic and performed by a genuinely skilled and experienced surgeon for less than you'd pay in your home country. The odds of you finding those surgeons is close to nil. You're much more likely to find an English-speaking surgeon who advertises on Tiktok and has buy one get one free on surgeries they try to pressure you into having. And as soon as you have problems, they stop speaking English and have no recollection of you. Unless you're a local, or know a local, who knows trustworthy surgeons, stay the fuck away.
No. 405609
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>>402336Say what you will about her behavior but there’s nothing masculine about this woman. What she’s gotten done has been just the right amount, it’s blended in as she’s aged and she’s never had that stiff or expressionless look.
Her makeup has always been atrocious though, why bother getting work done to open up your eyes if you’re going to layer dark eyeliner all over them.
No. 406390
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Do you know what Lana has done with her face besides weight loss? Seems similar to JLaws recent transformation, both look really cute, healthy and young. I know that Lana has had surgery and filler before, but this time is looks very tasteful and just better?
No. 408236
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I have thin lips and a square jaw, right now I’m thinking about getting a lip flip and half a vial of filler or just a lip flip and I can just over line my bottom lip with lipliner kek. I just hate the look of lip filler and I’m afraid of it migrating so I feel like this would look the most natural. I think having bigger lips will balance out my features more since there are plenty of beautiful women with jaws like mine but they all have full lips. If money wasn’t a question I’d get masseter Botox so my jaw could be more v shaped.
No. 408276
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Some Women are getting full fat relocation surgeries over their entire body now. No more implants.
No. 409941
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is there a way to get the female chad/bombshell face structure?
No. 410127
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why did her face change so much?
she is a local celeb i kinda love since she is so pretty like i wish i was her but in a decade she looks like a different person. Her face went from chiselled and long to short and almost a chinlet?? its not weight gain and idk about bulimia since from my experience bulimia bloat is different but i might be wrong. Idk about filler but maybe. Like she looks like if she had a short beta cousin
repost cause i still want to know
No. 410493
>>409941If it helps, the features they have are slimmer/defined cheeks, defined jaws, long heads, square chins. You can get different procedures for most of those things, but tbh it'll probably not look how you want it to unless you have their head length
>>410484OT but I hate that these
Poster Girl dresses and jumpsuits became trendy. Most of their clothing is literally meant for strippers. It's meant to be worn in dark places with a bunch of drunkards, not in public wtf. I'm choosing to believe she was edited into the video kek.
No. 410494
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>>410492theres pics of her between procedures, this wasn't a one day job.
No. 410499
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>>410484That video is filtered as hell. She actually looks like this. She had multiple BBLs in Colombia for that extreme look. No doctor in her home country would give her what she wanted.
No. 410500
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>>410492she filters the shit out of her face. she looks very different in real life.
No. 410507
>>410505and how do you know this woman is
using filter? if she shoops her body why wouldn't she also shoop her face? people that have seen her irl have literally said she doesn't look like her instagram photos kek
No. 410525
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>>410507>if she shoops her body they are spending a lot on the CGI team then
No. 410532
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>>410530jesus christ this is so sad and disgusting. she ruined her body for, like 5 years max of it looking "good"
more girls in central south america are getting into this because it gets them attention and escorting opportunities.
No. 410552
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>>410525It's a combination of camera angles, lenses, and filters. This was shown in one of her viral videos, where she was ragebaiting to promote her Onlyfans, and the airline seats were warping around her.
>>410532Yes, and shitbags are taking advantage of those girls. Gracie Bon's pimp is a Jamaican guy who used to operate a website for BBW "models" (which has since been removed), and the majority of the girls he represented were from South America. So she's promoting this guy, which is helping him take advantage of more women. I wouldn't be surprised if she underwent all of those operations because this guy told her to. Many underprivileged girls look at her success and see it as something to strive for, and her TV promotion isn't helping. I really hate how the hypersexualization of Latina women is being promoted by the media.
No. 410614
>>410127she looks like she has chipmunk cheeks from bulimia which gives the illusion of her chin being smaller.
>>409601like everyone else said it's gonna depend on what your face already looks like. but i know angelina had a chin implant and i think megan fox might have as well? or chin filler or something? if you want a longer looking face and a sharper jawline chin filler will probably help.
No. 411362
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Getting my rhinoplasty done in just a few days and I'm still a little scared that my nose will come out being just as big. I've had great communication with the doctor, he did morphed photos for me showing what the result will be, and he seems to genuinely understand what I want (small cute nose)… but so many of the before/after photos I see around places online still have huge noses… straighter and pointier but still big. I really hope mine will turn out significantly smaller.
Picrel shows what I mean. Like they fixed the hook part of her nose but it's still a really big nose, not a little button one.
No. 411370
>>411364No, not a fan of the pixie noses. I have a beak nose that droops downward so they will have to upturn it a little anyway, but I didn't opt for the dramatic upturn. I really just want it small more than anything else.
>>411365>>411367Eh if I am spending $18k on a surgery then I want to see a more dramatic result than that. And yes it really costs that much here, probably the most expensive place in the world to get plastic surgery done but I wanted to keep it local in case I have complications.
No. 411775
>>406366I got one removed partially for cosmetic reasons, but my dermatologist also thought maybe it should be examined by the lab because it had grown a bit. Mine was on my shoulder. It grew back, though it's smaller and less annoying now. There was no malignancy.
I have a couple raised skin tags (but they are dark like moles idk) on my back I want removed but I need to find out the cost. I don't care that much except for the fact that these two catch on my bra.
No. 414902
>>414837It's unpredictable how they will turn out, there are a lot of factors that interfere with it and always be prepared for bad outcomes. Do consider that the implants will make them obviously heavier and consequently saggier. Implants still adhere to gravity, even though they give out more volume, of course, but you'll have to wear bras with implants. I don't know how old you are but do keep in mind the years in your future. I personally know a person who has done what you described. She had implants and they never really looked how she wanted, she had to change the implants twice and recently removed them, totaling 4 surgeries. Every time you have surgery there's a risk, you can lose your nipple, or gain new scars, it's something to consider. I would look into just a breast lift if I were you. If you have decent-sized breasts, I wouldn't risk putting in an implant. When the doctor cuts excessive skin out, it can fuck up the blood that goes to your nipple, when you stretch that skin with implants, that skin gets thinner, and can make the risk of losing your nipple higher. I am not an expert, but I suggest you look into all this before making your decision, especially thinking about your future years and possible extra surgeries.
No. 415725
>>402287I got a BBL three weeks ago, and I think that no one will ever know. I had an okay figure when I was really skinny, but my face was gaunt and my legs weren't shapely. I intentionally gained weight, but when I did my figure went away and I became a rectangle. After this BBL, I have a great figure and I really think that no one will know. I've made a big deal about going to the gym and working out a lot. My husband likes it, but he's Asian so I think he'd still prefer if my butt were a bit smaller and my legs were toned. But it's okay, I really love how I look now.
but i can't imagine what would possess someone to do this
>>410484 No. 416096
>>415947It was mostly 360lipo. I got 3600cc taken out, but like 800cc put into my butt total. I already had a good shape. What I did was just put some on the side to make the shape rounder. So the actual size of my hips only increased an inch. No porn ass. Really just increased my silhouette a lot with lipo and a slightly rounder shape. Thanks for being really aggro tho!
Also, no 'blowing retirement savings'. It's only $8700, and my household income can more than handle that. I put $4400 into investment accounts every month.
>>416077Respectfully, I really think that whatever you have in mind as a BBL is not what I got.
No. 416270
>>416141Yes. My butt is already a good size for my frame honestly. It just had a square shape due to hollowness in the sides. I asked him not to increase size or projection, but just to fill it in on the sides to make it rounder.
>>416210Yes. I gained over 15kg. I had a good figure when skinny, but my legs weren't shapely and my face was a tad gaunt. When I gained weight, those issues were fixed, and then I got rid of tummy and back fat with liposuction.
No. 416880
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I'm kind of obsessed with Eiza Gonzalez's plastic surgery. I just wonder what it's like to look this drastically different and whether that messes with you psychologically. I think she looks a bit too fake but whatever they did to her eyes and her nosejob look really good to me.
No. 416902
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I always wondered what people thought of Ariana Grande. Good? Or gone too far?
No. 416909
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>>416902too much. the eyebrow lift is just way too dramatic as well as her previous filler. i swear everyone that's had bad filler even after dissolving, just doesn't look the same.
and in some pics her weight loss seems to have accentuated the areas where she's had work done. truly a shame.
No. 416931
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>>402641Oh my god she could totally play as live action Griffith. Anyways she would look really good with that extremely light bleached hair or very dark, almost black hair, she needs to let her styling evolve beyond whatever the hell she wears now.
No. 416945
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>>416902She looked fine after her first nose job but she has gone way into uncanny valley territory since then.
No. 417042
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>>402641Unpopular opinion but I liked Taylor’s old eyes. She looked like a Russian model back then, now she looks kind of .. basic? I hate to call people that but yeah
>>416947Kylie is such a weird case. I genuinely liked her old look and I think if she waited it out she would’ve grown into it. The only surgery that I thought she actually needed (a jaw shave) she never got lmfao
Ok anyway I have a general question
Is there a surgery to remove a droopy tip? I don’t want a ski slope nose. I actually want a nose that looks like pic rel
No. 417044
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>>417042same anon
Apparently there’s a droopy tip type of nose job but I think they still mess around with the bridge and that’s scary to me
No. 417124
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>>417042I also think Taylor was really naturally beautiful and didn't really need to get anything done. The small eyes worked for her face. I think weirdly a lot of plastic surgery these days is just intended to make it possible to wear certain makeup looks, like blepharoplasties help create space for eyeshadow and lip filler to make more space for lipstick, instead of trying to create an overall balance. But at least compared to a lot of celebrity plastic surgery she looks very natural.
No. 417739
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>>416896Huge lips are really popular in Russia/Eastern Europe
Most men in the west hate these kinds of lips but for some reason Russian moids love them
No. 417776
>>417739As an American I can say that men say they hate them but then only jerk off to porn with women that have them, kek. Same as when they say they hate fake boobs but then only want a woman who has large, round, perky gravity-defying breasts… aka fake boobs kek.
>>417761Is there a reason for this? I see so many bad lips here. Almost all of them have filler migration mustaches. I've always wanted just a tiny bit of filler in my lips, I'm okay with the size but I just want that smidge of plumpness, but goodness I think the risk of them looking awful is too high.
No. 418224
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>>417739>>417776I have a theory that many women get lip filler when they don’t want to commit to a rhinoplasty. Fuller lips can feminize your face if you have a broad nose. Pic rel is a Ukrainian girl I follow on ig
No. 418228
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>>417739Russian women shoop like crazy and all go to Turkey for cheap nose jobs and jaw surgery. It's impossible to tell what they actually look like from photos, you can't trust it.
No. 418238
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>>418226Yeah I used to think she was the epitome of beauty at one point but it slowly occurred to me that the lip filler wasn’t flattering and it just makes her face look big and gloopy, which makes me second guess my plan to get lip filler in place of rhinoplasty lmao
>>418227kek the one Slavic (Ukrainian) guy I ever interacted with told me that his ideal girl was blonde with big lips, I thought it was just him being a sperg but I guess it makes sense now. Similarly I have talked to many western guys that think lip filler makes women look trashy. I wonder if lip filler is to Eastern Europeans as tan skin is to westerners, because I rarely ever see white women with lip filler here in America, and similarly I never see Slavic women with intentional dark skin.
I loved last years miss Russia because she never tried to hide her pale pink toned skin (I’m not pushing z I just wanna look like her lmfao)
No. 418244
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>>418238Honestly that woman you posted is really weird and derpy looking in motion, pic rel. These were the finalists in Miss Russia last year and you could genuinely find prettier, more Stacy looking girls in an average American high school.
I think the Miss Universe or whatever are becoming more mid per year and I blame generic instagram plastic surgery and also instagram makeup/face trend. It doesn't help that everyone frauds so hard nowadays with their pics, even beauty pageant contestants.
The Miss Universe competitors in the past were so much more naturally beautiful and unique looking, and almost none of them have the typical instagram beauty trend features, besides obvious ones like very white teeth and big eyes which are just universally attractive anyway.
They were just obviously the prettiest girl in their home city and got put out to the forefront. I really miss old 90s Miss Universe pageants, everyone just looks the same now.
No. 418245
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>>418238are we counting american celebs or just everyday women? cause almost every female celebrity in the US has them
No. 418250
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>>418245Everyday women in my experience. Living in the northeast and deep south, I have never seen women with noticeable lip filler. The white American beauty standard is like a deep tan and blonde hair, with less emphasis on facial features imo. Just look at your average Fox News lady lmao
>>418244Yeah also there’s a weird emphasis on looking racially ambiguous, and if not that, then the copy and paste beauty filter look. Pic rel, there’s no way miss china would even be considered attractive back home, I’ve seen better looking cdrama no name background actors.
No. 418251
>>418231They'd also insist she's not wearing any makeup. Men are so stupid.
>>418238>I rarely ever see white women with lip filler here in AmericaAre you joking? I see disgustingly overfilled lips on a daily basis. I am in California though, maybe it's less common in other states.
No. 418308
>>418244Most Russian women are mid as fuck and look indistinguishable to other nationalities of women, 'Russian' just activates a coom instinct in moid brains because it seems like some exotic, mysterious and far away land. You could literally show a picture of a 5/10 random woman and say she is Russian and moids would be like :O and insisting she's a 10 and using it as 'proof all Russian women are beautiful' Russia has been using that soft power and 'beautiful Russian tradwife' propaganda thing for decades. It's why so many cockettes have started larping as Russian too.
Same way weebs think all Japanese women are pale virgins with high features and giant boobs and hips who hate feminism and are ultra submissive, because they watch so much Japanese porn. It's all soft power propaganda that these moidy governments use to pimp out their women and encourage sex tourism to help their economy.
No. 418583
>>416909I never realized she wore contact lens, they look cute in the left pic
>>416902Both of the above posts are interesting because they show how semi-hooded eyes can look more youthful. Her upper eye area is too stretched out and it gives her too much upper lid show. She looked more youthful with smaller upper eyelid because her upper eye fat wasn't stretched out.
No. 419134
>>418913>>418997If you are getting fat grafting, you can go anywhere.
Also, if you have a very broad jaw from a frontal view, going to Asia is the only option, as their methods are better for that particular issue than Western surgeons. This PurseForum post explains it well:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/caucasian-facial-contouring-at-view-plastic-surgery-results.1062102/ No. 419203
>>419054I'm from one of those countries and there's way less natural blondes than people think, in my opinion. The most common hair colour is light brown/very dark blonde ("mouse blonde"). It's considered to be basic and boring so tons of women bleach their hair because moids love blue eyed blondes or some shit. Excuse the blogpost but the largest % of blondes I've ever seen was in a small town in Western Finland where everyone was ethnically a Finn/Swede, no Samis. Was kind of freaky actually.
Eastern European moids have retarded tastes in general and they've been fully psyopped into molding their sexualities around Instagram and TikTok.
No. 419216
>>419143>don't think the shaved dorito chins would work well on non Asians.It looks worse on Asians than westerners lmao
>>419151Nobody said they need to get rhinoplasty?
>>419203>The most common hair colour is light brown/very dark blonde ("mouse blonde").Not Slavic but I think most white women have that natural hair color and idk what it even really looks like when it’s grown out and properly styled and taken care of.
No. 419226
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>>419203I guess it depends on where you live but I feel like here the "mousey" color is definitely considered blonde and especially if you're not white. I've seen these maps that describe blonde hair distribution like picrel and these stats seem kinda crazy to me but idk.
No. 419423
>>419226So youre saying the boring mousey color occurs in blondes, like when they start out light blonde then it goes greyish? Yet the moid led media portrays boring mousey hair as if it only occurs in brunettes, when it's commonly occurring in blondes.
Regardless, women should stop bleaching their hair with
toxic chemicals, in hopes of reaching some moids' arbitrary media propagated beauty standard.
>>419257Glad to hear it!
No. 419574
>>419478Most of those e-girl types have thin to medium size lips and they are the most popular. I think most young men prefer e-girls who look like mid-2000s emo teens and havent had much surgery, dont have breast implants etc.
Older men seem to prefer the bimbo types with lots of fillers. Besides, they arent looking at the girls face in porn anyway kek.
No. 419853
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>>419841Im eating an anti inflammatory diet, take my supplements and maintain my weight. For now my lipedema isn’t processing and is still at stage one. I got the Lilly rose body going on rn kek
I know someone who got a lot of lipedema fat sucked out of her body and she gained a lot back, claiming it’s not her lifestyle. But she is still happy with the results of the operations. I really think its worth it, I’m feeling so bad when I see women with disfigured legs because of this disease. It must be so uncomfortable and painful
No. 422059
>>417044Sorry late reply, but I wanted to answer. I got something similar. My problem was that my nose was very crooked and bird-like, I had a deviated septum, and a droopy tip so that whenever I smiled or spoke it would drag down. It looked awful. When I got my nosejob, they made it so my nose was perfectly straight and now the tip of my nose doesn't move at all when I speak or emote.
Basically, my surgeon explained it like when they shave off the cartilage from the bridge of the nose to make it straight, what they'll do is shove that shaved cartilage in-between your septum (there's a natural hole there, if you feel the tip of your nose softly with your finger you can tell what I mean, it's like the meeting of two pieces of cartilage) and that strengthens the tip of the nose so it doesn't droop when you speak or emote.
No. 423835
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When did Priscilla Presley start doing facelifts?
No. 424085
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>>424083>Can rhino fix a diagonal nose, and is it possible to make a nose taller?Yes and yes. The latter involves taking a piece of your rib to put in your nose, or using a plastic implant so be aware of that. It's a little more invasive and complicated than a standard rhino. The slant is an easy fix by adjusting the cartilage.
No. 424678
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I have a pretty similar face shape to young ScarJo but my temples and cheekbones are a bit narrow which kind of throws the shape of my face off a bit. What type of fillers are best to pad that part of my face out and widen it a bit from the front to match the rest of this kind of face shape? I'm not even sure what kind of shape this is, maybe heart? Or egg lol.
No. 425019
>>425014My philtrum is literally 21mm long I look like a fucking monkey
>>424999I think that isn't allowed but I'll look into that
No. 425053
>>425036That’s not body dysmorphia, that is a really long philtrum. Average female philtrum is between 11-15mm and it really makes an impact on the face.
>>425019Philtrum twins, mine is 20mm and I have no upper lip or tooth show lol. That said, I’ve decided not to get PS because I find the doctors untrustworthy like you mentioned and a botched lip lift is a really serious thing (nerve damage, facial limpness, inability to smile, never being able to close your mouth again, which I’ve seen happen). I feel like plastic surgeons are like hair stylists, you go in and request something specific but in the end they do whatever they think would look good, not what you agreed to. There’s basically no protections for this legally either unless you like die from dirty equipment kek
No. 425062
>>425056is there some sort of name for this? probably not lol.
should i go to an ent doctor for this sort of thing?
No. 425111
>>424883I wouldn't suggest getting more than one surgery done at once. I've had rhino and the recovery was painful, and my nose tip was numb for several months after. Having the pain/numbness in the mouth area at the same time would've been hell.
>I don't know how I can prevent this…go to a different surgeon?
No. 425116
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I’m seriously thinking about getting lipo 360 before 2026. For the past few years I’ve been yo-yo dieting and I’ve gotten so close to my goal weight but I can’t change body fat distribution and the small pouch I have on my stomach is a major concern of mine. For once in my life I would like to have a flat stomach. Lately I’ve been seeing women with a similar body type to mine having the perfect, smooth stomach look I crave. I’m planning on doing one more major weight loss effort and save my money for 2025 to get lipo 360. I’d like to look pretty for once in my life.
No. 425327
>>425116I get where you're coming from, it's annoying when we're at our weight goals or we feel good about our fitness but there's still stubborn areas of fat that won't go away. Before you try liposuction though, have you ever considered getting something like TruSculpt ID?
It's ideal for people that are at their goal weight, or within 20-25lbs of it, and it's main benefits are contouring of the body and tightening of the skin. Usually each treatment reduces fat cells in the area by 15-20%. Unlike liposuction, it's not surgically invasive and there's 0 downtime after each procedure. Usually it takes 2-3 sessions to see the best results.
Just something to think about if you're already near your goal weight but there are just some stubborn spots of fat that you can't seem to rid. I wanted to bring it up because usually it's an overlooked thing!
No. 425344
>>424678for temples you could do sculptra
>>425019bit of a weird suggestion but if you think your philtrum is long have you tried a fake beauty mark? It helps to shorten the distance visually. If you like the look of it enough you could even get it tattooed on (and it would be easier to remove than to undo a lip lift you dislike). When you get a rhinoplasty your philtrum can end up shorter anyway, so don't jump the gun and do them together.
No. 425395
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Can someone explain to me why deep plane facelifts are seen as taboo if you're under 40 but jaw shaving, genioplasties, and the like are perfectly acceptable regardless of age?
I have visible tear trough and nasolabial fold sagging due to the fat in my cheeks migrating into jowls that are beginning to hang over my jawline. I want to get lipo to address that and possibly have the fat transferred to those sagging areas I mentioned but typically it's recommended you get a facelift to address any skin laxity that may follow after the lipo. I'm fine with that but from what I'm seeing it seems most surgeons opt for the "less invasive" options if you're younger (under 40) and still cut into your face, separating your skin and making adjustments to your SMAS, but refuse to separate any ligaments around your midface which give better, natural results. I get that people with more extreme aging can see amazing benefits from this but why can't modest deep planes be accessible for someone younger? Deep planes last far longer (10 years and on) while the lesser options last for 7 max (if you're lucky) and don't really address midface aging.
>inb4 "just get fillers or a stringlift"
No. 425852
>>425344>When you get a rhinoplasty your philtrum can end up shorter anywayReally? I've always seen the opposite happen. But I wonder if it's different if you get vertical lengthening with rib cartilage, vs getting a ScarJo button nose.
Speaking of rhino, is it best to avoid Turkey? I'm being told if you're not Asian, avoid SK. But I assumed since Turkey must work on Arab looking noses a lot, they do the cookie cutter upturned treatment on them. Which I absolutely don't want. My nose has slightly African features and I don't wanna look like MJ kek
No. 426133
>>426124The only people that cry about looking bad imo are men mad that they lost their jaw
I lost some of my jaw but it made my face look more feminine
No. 426167
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Dasha Taran is really pretty but somehow she looks different. I can't really pinpoint it but she started to look more dorito faced recently, or rather her face shape seems longer and lower heavy. I don't know if its only editing but she is living in korea so i think maybe she got multiple minor procedures done to enhance her looks even more
No. 426194
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>>426167She got chin fillers and facial fat removal. She used to have a slightly recessed chin and a more blunt jaw. In Korea they hate short blunt jaws and soft receding chins so I guess she got filler in her chin to make it seem longer and pointier and the facial fat at the sides has also been removed. I guess 99% of her fans are Koreans or Koreaboos so she is under pressure to conform to their standards. She still looks stunning though, and is looking more ladylike and elegant rather than the teen loli jailbait aesthetic she kept pushing earlier in her career.
No. 426333
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>>425123The problem is, fat women don't understand what you're talking about which is why they're sperging. They just see a slim woman and think "flat stomach" but they aren't looking at the stomach in a detailed way to notice the pooch. If you've been thin all your life, you'll know what anon is talking about if you dissect how your body looks. Picrel, Eva's body is my dream body and she still has a pooch. In the old VS ads, they would sometimes edit them out or the body fat percentage would be so low at the shows that sometimes the pooches wouldn't be there, but many times they still were.
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>>426335I mean, it IS fat. It's just a normal amount of fat that women tend to retain even at low body weights. You can see it below Candice's belly button here. I had a bone rattler BMI in the low-mid teens and still had it. I guess that's why I refer to it as the pooch. It also depends on how your uterus is angled.
>>426338>however I think you absolutely CAN get a flat stomach WITHOUT surgeryEh, it's such a low body fat percentage, it just doesn't look right to me. I only have seen it "naturally" on VS models that are dehydrated and have incredibly low body fat percentages (or female bodybuilders).
No. 426376
>>426333Sometimes I wonder if the pooch is less of a fat deposit and more of a… low key deformity? Obviously it IS fat, but I've seen women with quite fat stomachs that are still a straight line down without a bump sticking out.
I've seen tiktoks of women who've fucked up the shape of their stomach by sucking in all their lives, it wasn't exactly the same but it made me worried. I have the same thing and as I'm losing weight/gaining muscle I wonder if mine is just never going away because I had weird posture or sucked in my stomach when I was young, or maybe it's just the genetic shape of your abdomen the way people have different shaped ab muscles.
No. 426404
>>426380idk if you can fuck up the shape but i know you can permanently damage your abdominal muscles by tensing them all the time, so that probably changes the shape.
>>426333i've had this pooch all my life even at my skinniest, 5'5" and 105 pounds.
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What’s the grove between my chin and lips, why do I have it, and what surgery/fillers can I get to correct it?
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>>426740Most people have this nona. It's totally normal.
No. 426752
my grandmother got a bunch of shit done in her 50s and 60s. it was extremely uncanny - grandma got a nosejob and facelift, and that thing that makes the eyes way more open and pulled up. my dad said she got a boob job too, lmao. it genuinely creeped me out as a kid, because the rest of her skin looked normally aged as an older woman, but then her face was all weird.
that said, i've always been interested in plastic surgery. i promised myself it'd be super subtle work and i'd have to be young so i wouldn't look insanely creepy. when i was 16 i had a breast reduction for my own comfort because i played sports, and i have no regrets at all, it's amazing to feel comfortable jogging and not sweating under my boobs in summer. i got a nose job at 18 bc it's culturally normal/got shoved down my throat a little bit.
i don't want anything else done now or probably ever tbh. i'm not afraid of aging. i like the way my nose is now, but sometimes i forget i changed my face and get surprised by my own reflection. its a super weird feeling when you get work done - you almost don't recognize yourself for a long time. seeing yourself feels very uncomfortable until you get used to it, & processing that the face you have always had isnt there anymore takes a while. the nose job made me sort of accept my other features, because they're what i recognize as myself when i look in the mirror.
my tinfoil is that when celebrities get increasingly mentally unhinged and they always botch their faces with extreme fillers/surgeries in the process, it has something to do with the almost psychotic implications of becoming wholly unrecognizable to your own brain idk
No. 426787
>>426740You mean on your chin? Is that not just a mild cleft chin? A little filler could fix it, yeah. It's not very noticeable though. Unless you're talking about something else, then I don't even see what it is.
>>426752Reminds me of something I heard someone say once that old people with Botox/fillers don't look any younger, they just look like smooth old people. Stuff like neck and hands are a tell of true age. But I guess Botox is expanding to include areas like that now. Having to get needles stuck everywhere in your body every month sounds like a nightmare though.
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would jaw augmentation surgery give me the stacy jaw ?
No. 427034
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Have any anons here had facial fat grafting done or know anyone that did? I'm curious to hear about personal experiences or second hand accounts since I'm interested in having my tear troughs done.
No. 427662
>>427034I met with a surgeon and had an appointment set for this procedure but ultimately canceled it
Some things to consider
>the fat on your face is smoother and more butter like than the fat on your body>for fat grafting on the face, surgeons prefer to use facial fat fron elsewhere as body fat is lumpier >that means you'll have a buccal fat removal precedure done with all that entails (aging/hollow cheeks) The youtuber lorry hill had facial fat grafting and something went wrong where the fat got loose and caused her skin to necrotize. She has a video on it. It is a risk.
All of the above reason, plus the fact that I was post partum and set to lose weight (and have more kids and then lose weight again, which would potentially fuck up the precious fat cells on my eyes) made me decide against it/wait until later to reconsider my options.
No. 430272
>>418227It's because men are retarded and literally can't tell if anyone has had plastic surgery done unless they look completely bogged and distorted. Men will say they don't like it when a woman looks "overdone" and in the same breath say that they like now "natural" Kim Kardashian looks. These same men have NO IDEA that someone with subtle work like Taylor Swift has ever had lip filler or plastic surgery and would swear up and down that she's natural.
Also, they want to discourage the women they know IRL from getting attention from other moids. The same dudes that say "nOoOo men pReFeR nAtUrAl" are following IG baddies in the meantime, kek.
No. 432061
>>432009What will happen when the filler inevitably migrates to your cheeks making you look older and fatter?
>>432020What must you go through as a child to believe the women who don’t blow money on butchering themselves for male attention are the delusional ones? Pick-me’s never prosper, thot.
(infight bait/hide the thread if you dont like it) No. 432281
>>432020You are right I guess. I was just worried because sometimes I can get really obsessive. But for now I’m very happy.
>>432061As long as I’m not that unhinged everything will be fine kek
No. 436379
>>426333Unless you’ve never had a baby, a totally flat stomach is possible.
If you’ve ever been pregnant or have been a fatty mcbutterchubs, or have a hernia a flat stomach a tummy tuck or abdominal surgery might be the solution.
I have diastisis recti (or however you spell it) from 2 pregnancies, and before the pregnancies I was super skinny, till I had 2 c sections, which I wasn’t told about binding or wearing an abdominal binder, so no matter what I had a “pouch” of fat, and no matter how much excersises, fat burning treatments, dieting etc I still had loose skin below my belly button, that made me incredibly uncomfortable and the diastisis recti made my life hell (back pain, incontience when sneezing, and inability to do regular crunches without my guys coming thru the opening) yuck I know!
It’s incredibly sad that cosmetic surgery is our only relief for this shit.
I’m getting my mini tuxk with muscle repair and I’m so nervous nonies
No. 436986
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How tf do you fix monkey lips? Aka, long ass philtrum, deep nasolabial folds, and weird maxilla protrusion
No. 437501
>>436986>long ass philtrumLip lift
>deep nasolabial folds,Depends on the cause. Assuming it isnt age related: Midplane face lift maybe. Fat grafting maybe. Cheek implants. Maybe a firm cheek filler that wont migrate (run the risk of bog mode) Stay away from filler in the nasolabial folds
>and weird maxilla protrusionOral surgery or braces
No. 439217
I’m in an awkward situation. I have a feature that is so bad that even in adulthood I get made fun of and pitied for it. I tried to resist it for a long time, but recent comments from strangers about how ugly I am have been too much and I’m ready to get surgery now.
The problem is, the feature I’m getting surgery to address is basically a slightly more extreme version of a feature my mom has. Back when I was a teenager and admitted to her I was thinking about plastic surgery, she got really offended and asked me if I thought she was ugly because if it, and if I said no (truthfully, I just have a worse feature combination), then she asserted that there’s no reason for me to get surgery. I have a really good relationship with my mom and I’m worried this will ruin it and it will be a source of tension for the rest of my life, especially because this surgery tends to leave a scar and I worry she’ll just fixate on the scar and be disappointed in me forever. I know you guys might say “well who cares what your mom thinks” but I am super close with her, we hang out all the time, and due to the HCL area, I still live at home paying reduced rent while I save for a down payment on a townhouse.
What should I do? How should I handle this? How should I tell her? I’m so sick with anxiety about this.
No. 439475
>>439473Not what I’m asking. I’m not asking if I should get the surgery, I’ve done a lot of research and considered it for 10 years. (I’m also a portrait artist so I have a good grasp of facial proportion/balance.) I was asking for advice about how to deal with the
interpersonal issues that come with having plastic surgery.
No. 439668
>>430249I've had it done for 11s and crows. Very easy, results set in very fast. You really don't need a lot especially if you have a small face. I got my 11s done and I guess that retrained my facial muscles so I just stopped knitting by brows together and while I have regained the capacity to emote my brows that way the 11s have never come back.
>>439515congrats nona! I don't get why this is considered cosmetic surgery when it repairs the muscles.
No. 439706
>>439699I only did the 11s and crows feet. I don't move my forehead very much to begin with for whatever reason so there wasn't anything to do to my forehead. Did you just get it done? The effect peaks at 2 weeks in and starts dissipating from there.
Personally I think most people could get away with way less than most practitioners recommend. I get 10-16 units all together between my crows feet and 11s (haven't done my 11s in ages). Meanwhile I read about people getting 10 units around one eye alone. You can always add more botox but you can't really take it away.
No. 439765
>>439761That's rough, my parent didn't really care, as long as I was the one paying for it. My situation was different, I got bullied in school and my nose was one of the main targets on me, I was the only one with that nose in my family too. I had a nose job and I look much more like my mother now. I had a smooth experience and people can't tell I had work done, so technically I had a successful case, but I'm going to be honest with you. I had a lot of internal issues after, I felt like I betrayed myself. If I have any advice, as others have said, your parents will not be in your life forever and the people saying nasty shit are not the ones you should be listening to. Try to resolve the issues with yourself first and foremost. If you're ok with your decision, then dealing with others is much easier, but when you're second-guessing yourself, external criticism hits much harder because it might reinforce an internal battle. If you know your parents will give you a hard time, you gotta make sure you're extra confident in yourself for it, otherwise, it might make you miserable.
No. 439766
>>439765Thanks for your reply, I’m glad your parents were chill and that your experience was a success. One thing I don’t really understand though is
>the people saying nasty shit are not the ones you should be listening to. Try to resolve the issues with yourself first and foremost.What does resolve the issues with yourself even mean? Isn’t pretty much every average case of PS a case of not liking how others perceive you? Personally I’m not one of those people who ever bought the pop feminist “doing it for myself” mantra in regards to beauty stuff, it just doesn’t hold up to logical scrutiny imo.
I will say that ever since I decided on letting myself get the surgery, I’ve already felt so much happier and confident because now I know I won’t have to think about how I’m going to live with this feature for the rest of my life. I can already imagine how much of a difference it will make to be able to go outside and not think about how people are looking at me anymore. It does go against my values but… somehow I think I can more easily live with the “mistake” of betraying my values once, than live with the feature and all that comes with that for the rest of my life. I’m not going to be a perfect feminist activist and I have to come to terms with that and cut myself a little slack for once. That’s what I’ve been thinking anyway.
No. 439787
>>439706I see. My injector said if she leaves out the forehead I would get weird Spock brows because my muscle would want to get that upward movement going, do you know what I mean. But actually my muscles want to pull downwards all the time. I will see if I find a new injector. It’s tough though.
I got the Botox 1 month ago. It will wear off and it will be ok. Just a very weird feeling to not be able to move your forehead. I’m jealous of people with forehead wrinkles now actually. It’s a privilege kek
I do like the eye opening effects of the 11s and crows feet Botox though. I hope my eyebrow muscles do the same as yours and stop doing their thing
No. 439916
>>439766You can't fully control how others perceive you. You would be changing a feature and that's it. If it's too striking and calls too much attention to the point you feel it's the source of a problem, then yes, one solution is to change it. I don't know how you look or how much it would affect you, and I believe you when I say that it draws unwanted attention. Just don't put too much expectation beyond what it is. For all I know, people might still stare at you for whatever reason even after the surgery. I'm not dissuading you to not doing it, like I said, I had ps myself, I'm just saying changing our body/face does affect your mind and it will be extra hard since your parents may nag you. Only you know how having this feature affects your life, so it's your decision. I personally had the surgery at my lowest moment, so it wasn't the best time to make life-altering choices. By resolving the issue I guess I meant, to be realistic and aware of expectations and possible outcomes.
No. 442150
>>440108Make damn sure you find a BOARD CERTIFIED PLASTIC SURGEON! these are the MFs that specialise in cosmetic surgery.
Places like Sonobello, etc have a bad, nasty, and deciteful practice where the "Doctor" could be any kind of doctor, and doing your surgery, like these could be a pediatrician, gastro, etc, thats doing your shit, and alot of the time, they be fucking shit up on girls, I fell DEEP into a rabbit hole on a [place called goals. DEFS DO NOT GO THERE. a board certified is what you gotta look for first and foremost
No. 442153
>>439546>>439619>>439668Tummytuck Anon here, The recovery is brutal; Ive been having to not workout (which is awful to me) and wear an itchy hot ass binder; I had 2 drains that were laying over my hip bones which was the worst part; happy to say i got them removed finnally. My belly button is nappy looking; but im trusting the process (the fixed my sagging ass belly button) With tummy tucks, they sew your skin tighter so i was walking like an old lady for the first couple of weeks, had to use a walker, im almost straight when standing, the small pouch of loose skin was cut and tucked, which was my biggest insecurity. oh and coughing, farting shitting etc was horrible, because them muscles are sewd together the pain was indescribable, I could feel jesus weeping.
Pre OP (and on multiple other visits) I discussed my concern about the muscle seperation above my belly button; the surgeon was like " oh your skinny you dont need it" yadda yadda yadda. Anyways, before surgery when he was drawing the lines and shit, I told him, again, about my ab seperation above my belly button,it felt like he blew me off.
So i wake up; After the surgery; lo and behold, my muscles were tightened from my sternum to my lower stomach and i was looking SNATCHED to the damn gods; He told me on my check up visit that he wasnt about to tighten it if it didnt need it; thank god he did,
advice for yall; dont be afraid to speak up, yall going for plastic surgery; yall paying peoples salaries.
No. 444327
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I had a sliding genioplasty done 8 months ago and ended up with step-offs. My surgeon said we can shave the bone down (Hoping for something like on the right) but I'm wondering if it's worth it. If you ended up with the left in pic related would you just leave it be or deal with the time/money/recovery to get it fixed
No. 444373
>>444342>>444348Thank you nonnas, it's hard to look at oneself objectively so I appreciate the feedback.
>>444366It's bone, basically after a genioplasty you can end up with this "step off" between where the bone was cut and its new position
No. 445765
>>445072Yeah I would definitely talk to your doctor about sufficiently shaving down the bone! My doctor said he did shave some down but I guess it wasn't enough? I'm not sure what the actual advancement from my natural chin was because I actually had a chin implant prior (It was eroding into my bone which is why I got the genioplasty).
>>445096Very true, it wouldn't be
too pricy for me to do it now which is where I'm seriously considering just going ahead and doing it because I'd hate for it to keep bothering me and cost me way more later on, especially as I get older and the skin becomes more likely to sag
No. 445774
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Does anyone have any experience with masseter botox? I've clenched my jaw and ground my teeth throughout my entire life (I have a mouthguard for it now) and I'd like some relief for my tight jaw. But moreso, I swear now that I'm in my 30s, my jaw looks physically wider than when I see photos of myself from just 8 years ago. My face/jaw was always a slim oval or heart-shape, similar to the woman in the very top right of picrel. Now, especially when I smile, I feel like my head looks like a pumpkin with a pointed chin. It's really bothering me. I've read about some negative experiences on Reddit with women saying it made their face look droopier and jowly, which I'm afraid of. I'd rather have a square face than a jowly face.
No. 445776
>>445774If you grind your teeth during the night or otherwise clench your jaw, then botox would be a good treatment for you. Although a lot of people only think of botox as a cosmetic treatment, there are some medical applications for it, like in your case. Botox is very different when used medicinally vs. cosmetically, how it's used, how much is used, and how much it costs. Usually, insurance will cover botox treatments for certain health conditions (like hyperhidrosis, or teeth grinding), so make sure you inquire with your insurance about it as they may give you coverage or a rebate. Re: side effects: you won't know how botox affects you until you have it done. If you don't like the effects of the botox, you only have to wait 2 or 3 months and then you're back to square one, and there's not many long-term consequences of its use.
Before you commit to botox though, I'd suggest first trying other methods. Since you grind your teeth, even if you get botox, that won't stop the teeth grinding. It's a chronic issue, so you'll always have to deal with it until you find a proper solution. Do you perform facial massages? Have you ever tried gua sha?
No. 445792
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>>445783Ntayrt but it depends on what area of the face you're talking about. Take a look at picrel, it shows you all the different types of Juvederm products and where they're best applied. There are other fillers besides Juvederm of course, but I trust Juvederm the most.
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Anyone had any experience with professional teeth whitening?
No. 446561
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After losing weight I am seriously considering a breast lift/augmentation and a body contour or tummy tuck. I'm 30 and I look like a mom in her 40s. My breasts sag like crazy and I have an apron belly. Then skin on both looks disgusting, it's so wrinkly. My face is also getting more defined nasolabial folds and it's making me look so old. Seriously considering just ballooning again, what's the point in losing weight if I look nasty and deflated.
No. 446612
>>446601I would not go the filler route unless it was the last option.
You still have RF microneedling, acid peels, co2 laser as options to tighten skin. I would ask a plastic surgeon about any other treatment options they have before getting filler. Youll want a plastic surgeon consult and not an esthetician consult imo. Some estheticians are filler happy.
I do also wonder if your side sleeping is causing the problem like you said.
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I know this isn’t surgery related but I can’t find an appropriate thread for this, and I’ve been thinking about this as an alternative option to eyelid surgery.
so I’ve been curious about this product for a very long time. my eyelids are very hooded and my jaw is kind of fat, do any of you girls know any good and reliable places to get those face/eye lifting tapes Asian women and lady Gaga uses?? I’m not referring to the stickers that lift your eyelids and get rid of the hooded eyelid look that you’ve probably seen girls on Douyin use, I mean those stickers that pull your eyes and cheek and jaw fat up.
I want my skin to be pulled UP.
Reccomendations much appreciated like I mentioned.
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>>446611Thanks for the advice but I do everything you already mentioned.
>>446612Thanks anon. My Botox injector who only does Botox said that she wouldn’t do filler because she thinks it could potentially migrate to the eyes. I also have seen some women who said it took a few rounds to get the wrinkle to completely go away and I am praying that it will be the same for me as well.
Any recommendations on what kind of peels would help in this case? I can look into the other options but I think the peels are probably cheapest. I will also try to consult a plastic surgeon if they don’t go away after the next round of Botox fades.
Also this is another question but has anyone tried a Save My Face pillow? I heard about this from other women who had the same issue and now am thinking of getting one to see if it helps. I already tried those stiff ass pillows that restrict your movement to reach you to sleep on your back and all it did was make me not sleep at all, which is a problem because I have a job kek.