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pretty sure she in the states. NOT overseas.
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Even though it’s over a year ago, she’s obviously catfishing her clients….
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To be a fake/real encounter
, it sure is getting under your skin anon. How do you know she never left Ohio unless you lived near her?>>10491
Hmm sounds like a troll.
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wasnt she getting nose sugery?
It'll be like that movie "Weird Science"
She'll come back with all sorts of fucked up parts. I take it she's after a smaller nose?
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remember when she got aegyo sal? I wonder how far she's going to go with surgeries
I've known her since high school days as well. I remember her ratty scene extensions from Java Jazz. In fact, I saw her post on a gyaru sales group and said "hey delandra I remember you" and she immediately blocked me.
I do remember within my friend group there being a shoop of her face on a king Kong movie poster going around Myspace. I thought it was kinda mean and racist but seeing as how her makeup style now (specifically lipstick shade) borders on blackface I don't think she would've cared as long as she got attention.
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So i guess she isn't getting the surgery?
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Am i the only one who think this car is photoshop?
If it is real why the fuck is it on the sidewalk?
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Seems like Del is doing doggy sitting now.
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She recently got a new doggy…..
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And it seems she’s gotten decent reviews. Hope it changes her for the better.
I guess she needed something to fall back on now that she's put on even more weight and can't strip/prostitute anymore. Those prices though, I can't imagine she's making a living off this. House sitting for only $30 per night?>>10530
Sounds like all of these people dropped their dogs off at her home. I can't wait for some poor soul to make the mistake of having her house sit for them and then things go missing. She has such a long history of theft.
Why are all the reviews on the same day? Are these from legit people with accounts? Suspicious…>>10531
Ugh I wouldn't trust her in my house. I know some people do since it is easier to leave their pet at home and have someone come in and feed/walk/check in. Hope they have CCTV if so lmao
Either she has a fuckton of clones out there or they are probs made by fake people or people she knows.>>10528
I guess she plans on scaming the pet sitting community how long before we hear about her stealing someone dog>I have over 20 Years of care for pet's
Yeah fuck off with that
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Now she’s flexing on Twitter. Her wig still looks stiff as shit…
Gross. Her weave/wig looks like straw at this point. Watching her flap her titties around in a desperate attempt to get that streamers attention in his merch is pretty hilarious though. She's also calling herself the "big ol titty waifu of twitch" in another tweet.
Desperate and delusional per usual.
Bitch get a bra that covers your tits.
How or why did she post that knowing one of her titties is poping out.
She's trying to get the attention of rich/famous twitch streamers now.
Basically, after she started dating, moved in with, living off of the last guy who was into the pro gaming scene, she's been trying to weasel her way into landing a successful pro gamer meal ticket. Even as nerdy/awkward as some of these dudes are, they don't seem to want to touch her.
Does anyone know if she's still with the last guy, long haired dude who was sort of a casual in the pro gaming scene, worked at a restaurant as his day job? She seems to still be living in the place they were renting together, but she's pretty openly pursued other men. Is he just a cuck?
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Sad. He looked like a pretty standard, average metalhead guy. There must be something wrong with him if he's willing to be cucked by a divorced prostitute who looks like Gary Coleman in drag.
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As of 10/2017 they’re still together. I don’t see much activity between them on twitter though, so they may be broken up by now. It’s possible he may be okay with what she does as long as it pays the bills. According to Cola, they haven’t slept together in over a year cause he got fat. Leave it to her to criticize someone.
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Holy shit she has a big ass hand in that right photo. And that wig looks like it's sliding off of her head. I wonder if her boyfriend has ever seen her real hair.>>10547
Nothing popped up for me.
Does she even have fans? kek
And what's up with that middle image? Looks like her eyelash is falling off.
$500 for a pair of her dirty panties… this bitch is dreaming.
$1,000 for a skype "date"
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She is trying hard as fuck to get them though
At least her wig doesnt look like a mess
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Her reputation is tarnished to the point where she’s almost 30, with no life/trade/professional skills. Changing her name won’t help because she stands out. Anybody who tries to deal with her in the future will only have to google her once to see what type of person she is. Her shitty personality will only get her so far after her looks and youth fade. Seems like patreon and surgery is her cure to depression and suicidal tendencies. So much for mental health awareness.
She trying to get to twitch con and i guess her bf doesn't want to take her or pay for her to go (can't blame him) >>10557
STFU nobody cares and wasn't you suppose to get that sugery in December? Come out and say your not getting it instead of makeing bullshit excuses.Shes just like other flakes that use mental illness as a sheald on why they can't be fucked with. >>10558
It also means symptoms in medical term.
Don’t come for me boo. I’ve been a source for half of the content on this thread….
Don’t do it…..
Just know Del has made more enemies than friends. I’m not her, just a resource that’s more than happy to share unless cunts like you fuck it up.
Step down and excuse me……(calm down)
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is this a photoshop job? if it is legit her body look a bit weird
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Super shopped. It's funny because in the process of trying to make herself look skinny, she also ended up shopping her boobs smaller. She's built like a fridge, wide shoulders/no hips, though she does have a fairly large chest. For reference, this photo was only a few months ago.
definitely doesn't even look recent. Given the nails and the very Japanese looking room behind her. Can't believe she's straight up catfishing rn.
She's up to 8 patreons, but only 7% of her goal for a "lighting update", so I can't imagine she's making a whole lot off it. Could even just be 8 of the $1 tier.
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I smell liesssss…..
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Her copying hentai scene…..
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In this photo you can def tell she photoshops most of other pics she has uploaded in the past year or so. The patreon pic from a few weeks ago show how obvious it is & maybe this is why she is losing pledges. Hell if you put on weight and all about self love and positive sex work, don’t hid behind 4-5 year old pics
>>10590>this is not barbie>welcome to the lurker club hearts
Yeah, sure. You don't even know how to sage.
Also, one of her followers? She doesn't even have a fanbase. Maybe she had a few people following her when she was at the "height" of her pathetic gyaru "career", but she's hardly even relevant anywhere anymore beyond places like lolcow due to her scamming, prostitution, and general drama. Even her thread here on lolcow has been pretty quiet lately.
Face it Del, you were washed up before you even were a somebody.
Yeah…..We love your ashy, overweight, scamming, lying, stealing, catfishing ass.
If you cared enough about yourself then this thread wouldn’t exist. Your reputation will never outweigh any good you will ever do. It’s just part of you pathetic personality ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Trust and believe that karma is a bitch. You fail to realized you actually fucked over sooooooo many people, you won’t have a chance in hell try to rectify it. Good luck with your weak ass ‘fame’…..
Lying is her thing.>>10580
That poor carrot got crushed under her fat and died from her stank ass.
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Her Easter shoot is trash, we can see her corset, her body looks hammy, and she has the face of a trans Gary Coleman. Whiteknight/Delandra please go. Or at the very least learn to sage.
Back on topic. Anyone else notice that even though she updated her Instagram bio to include her new patreon, she conveniently "forgot" to update the part about living in Japan as a "model", and is still pretending to be a member of Black Cherry? No wonder she's still catfishing with her old pictures.
To be honest…it shows her/your desperation in the attempt to bring back your/her youth. Ain’t happening boo.
If you/her have such a point to prove, live your/her life unbothered so we can a decent laugh or gain some insight that you are in fact bettering yourself in a positive light.
We all know you love to whiteknight yourself to prove a point that never happened. Maybe, and I exaggerating, if you come clean of all your the dumb shit you pull, you may get some sympathy. Obviously your depression/suicidal stint lasted only for a week.
Doing it for fun?? Bullshit! Doing it for desperation….you’re washed up honey. I would eat my own shit before I give you a penny. You’re tiers are bogus and a ripoff, you only have 4 idiots who are dumb enough to think your mildly attractive.
Hell even the speed running community doesn’t want to have shit to do with you.
Face it, your reputation is fucked. No matter how much you try to hide, your shitty personality will always be your downfall.
Your self-hate has been evident as long as I’ve know you and your deception and negative treatment of others is shown by the lack of social interactions you have.
Don’t blame us for how shitty and depressing your life turned out. Tits and ass can only get you so far.
if your "Doing this for fun" then why not go back to guam to strip
also patreon can take you off anytime because of their recent rule change against that shit.>>10603
I know right? like who the fuck wants to pay $300 for Dels used panties? let alone for some resued pics she used to scam people?
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>>10599>>10602>I rarely see anyone call her ugly.
You need to lurk the past few threads a bit harder then. We have no qualms in acknowledging how ugly Delandra is. She looks like an ugly man in bad drag, even before she got fat(fatter?).>>10606
Also, nice ban evading Del. It's cute that you've come here to sperg out though. Shouldn't you be photoshopping some content for your 4 patreon followers? Oh wait, you've only got three now. How sad.
Typical Del lingo….
You do know we can always tell when your coming to your defense, even anonymously.
The way you try to convince others that Del is so high and mighty is laughable! Mainly cause it’s so far from the truth that we all know she will never change.
Keep entertaining us with your hilarious comebacks. Better yet, post something so we can see how delusional you really are…
Girl who are you fooling Stevie wonder…lol
Why are you mad if your a "follower" and not Delandra hmm it's not that deep.
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This picture is gold,compared to the other girls stacks, no one touched hers along with her name Barbie how ironic. Keep the milk coming delandra we missed you boo.
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And yet she still tries to play it off like she's still a member, a "model" and living in Japan. While those of us who live normal, successful lives can see through it, this really was the "height of success" for her in her own mind.
Now she's living where… texas was it? Gained weight, can't seem to hold down a job. Not even the strip clubs want her. Her patreon only has two followers now. Probably herself and her boyfriend.
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Had to poke around a little, but yeah, it looks like she's still with Anthony, the neckbeardy metal head guy. I was wrong when I said Texas, she's in Las Vegas with him still. Honestly, I'm kind of surprised she doesn't work at a brothel out there as they are legal, but I suppose she's below their standards?
Turns out I was right when I joked about one of her Patreon followers being her boyfriend. Funny because he's also a patreon of another girl. I wonder how Del feels about that? He's the only one who actively likes the updates too, so it's likely the other one is herself.
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Bonus pic of her looking like Bill Cosby in a bad wig from his twitter.
Not only that but it was mention in the last thread she tried to sleep with one of his friend so he really dealing with a grade a bitch.
You’re definitely right! I feel the same way about her ex-husband. I have some screenshots somewhere where she criticizes a streamer because he cheated on his wife or gf. Then here she comes on her high horse talking about how that is unforgivable. I’m like “bitch?! You had a porno leaked when you were married!”
I swear this chick is beyond delusional. I’ll try to find said tweet. Plus the drama between her and the streamer in the UK was similar. She though he wanted her, he didn’t & she got pissy. Just like she did with the Philly stripper whose club didn’t hire her.
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No joke, she has such a long history of cheating too. She made a porno and was escorting/doing dating services while married, along with posting about multiple boyfriends all while married. It was all such a mess, no one could keep her timeline straight. She was hopping all over the place to any man that would take her.
Now she's openly tried to cheat on her current guy, and has still pursued work as an escort. Not to mention, the guy she tried to cheat with already had a girlfriend? Hilarious that she thinks she has any right to try to judge someone else for being "unfaithful".
Pot meets kettle
this is rich coming from a cheater like her
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Be honest, Del. It's actually because you couldn't afford to stay subscribed.
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Uh oh, even her boyfriend unsubbed from her patreon. She's been silent on all forms of social media since her last post on twitter >>10641
18 days ago.
Took a peek at her boyfriend's FB that used to be semi public and it looks like he either deleted everything or made it private.
Yeah, when I peeked around, I couldn't find much of anything interesting. She's been quiet and he's hidden a lot of his stuff.
I did find that she was active on the website "couchsurfing" just four months ago though? Between her openly trying to cheat on him, whoring around, not holding down an actual job… I'm sure their relationship is fairly volatile.
Do you have any caps of his post?
Yea I think the shady post is still on his twitter I will try to find it.
Del must actually be working a office job as she say or just keeping her whoring lowkey.
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I couldn't find his twitter. Did he delete it?
I did accidentally stumble on this though. It's ancient milk, but I don't recall it being talked about before? Apparently an old guy was murdered at the stripclub she used to work at years ago? It's pretty bizarre.http://davidfranklaw.com/cases/strippers-club-patron-who-was-found-dead-had-been-lewd-rude/
Delandra did it #staywoke
In all seriousness I’m shocked she never has brought this up? She makes up crazy lies all the time so idk why this is the first time we’ve heard of this
You'd think this would be one thing she'd brag about but surpisingly no.
to be fair is this even her like is this veriied to be her or someone with her same first name?
She was stripping in Texas, in this area, around this time. Chances of this being a different Del'Andra Johnson seems pretty unlikely. Houston is Del's hometown too.
The spelling of her name is pretty unique too, not very common. She has simplified it to just "Delandra" sometimes though, but older accounts show that her name is "Del'andra". What are the chances of someone having the same profession, name, and location?
Same name is possible but not same profession and like you said she was living in Texas at the time so its likely her.
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Looks like she's in Las Vegas or at least pretending to be? The only "active shooter" event in a mall in the USA that happened in this timespan was there. Did she just clue us in to where her "office job" is? Figures it's nothing legit and is actually just a mall job.
Also, it turned out to be a false alarm. No one was shot.
Wasn't she living in Texas with Anthony semi recently? Did they break up and she moved to Vegas to mooch off some new dude?
Nope, she's still MIA at the moment. Her patreon, twitter, twitch, facebook profiles, all silent. She is back up to one random Patreon though despite not having updated it in a little over two months now though. Her (ex?) boyfriend hasn't updated his IG and has hidden everything on his FB as well. My best guess is that they broke up, she's working at that mall in Vegas in the meantime?
It's possible she's working in a brothel, club, or something too. It's not like her to take long periods away from social media or not have a dude to leech off of.
Unlikely. I'm with >>10678
She's probably trying to recuperate, find a new meal ticket to house her, feed her, take care of her dogs, etc. All of her last hustles were a huge bust, her patreon was a complete failure, her dog walking scam also failed, all her social media is basically dead. She claims to be working an office job, which seems unlikely given her only work experience for the past however many years is stripping and escorting. She's probably got some kiosk job at the mall she mentioned >>10670
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At first I was like wtf is this?! Then I realized she changed her name. I think her current name has so much shit behind it, this is the ony way to escape it. Figured Naomi would've suited her better kek
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Plus I think her cuck broke up with her. Maybe a reflection of her recent disappearance from most social media. She’s semi active on Twitter, but nothing milk worthy.
It lives! Thanks for the update, anon. I wonder if she'll bother to legally change her name given that all her drama is easily searchable under her current legal name if she's trying to finally work regular jobs.>>10690
His grandmother died and his father was recently hospitalized. Del straight up told someone that she was using him for his eventual inheritance, I suppose Anthony finally wised up. She even openly tried to cheat on him multiple times, while she was living with him, and was still trying to escort on the side. Good for him though, took him long enough.
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For whatever reason she's been spamming her twitter with hentai recently? Bizarre.
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Been inactive on Facebook lately & but found this….let’s see how long it takes for her to scam someone under this guise. I
lmao co-own a dev company. As if she knows anything about sprints, what a pm even is,
or even how to manage her own time. These over the top lies are so embarrassing.
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She changed her name to Melanie and claimed she has moved to Copenhagen.
She looks really awful too.
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She also posted this claiming to be having major cosmetic surgery soon? I wonder who she is scamming out of the cash for it?
If she thinks her results will be anything like the pic she's using, she is in for a ton of disappointment.
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You already know she's getting it done in someone basement or a shady ass place. I can't wait to see this disaster. I guess escorts stick together her and Sere even have the same bio.
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It seems Barbie is going back to Japan soon.
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She thinks about doing a surgery reveal video if she hits 500 likes. Kek
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I came across her trying to sell a funky bed & offers of doggie sitting in the Denmark marketplace. Scamming all over the world.
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I love that she's become too fat/ugly to sell herself or get a stripper job that she now has to try to spin a scam off dogwalking/petcare.>>10759
She's managed to scrounge up 200 likes, probably mostly from farmers and shared the post again. I'll be surprised if she manages her 500 like goal at this rate.
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lmao I can't believe she paid money to sponsor this shitty post
Wow. and she spammed it on both of her FB accounts multiple times.
And she's still barely halfway to her goal of 500 likes. Sad, but hilarious.
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Her latest videogame? As if she's had previous?
This bitch just keeps getting more delusional.
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Turns out she moved to Denmark and is fucking hentai artist Solgryn. The video game she claims to be working on is his "Roah", so she's basically just riding his dick/coat tails per the usual for her, "bang a z-list internet personality, pretend their success is your own".
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Her escort/stripper days didn't pan out in the states because she ballooned up and was looking incredibly rough, so I doubt she'll be seeing much work. She hasn't posted new photos of herself in a long time outside the dodgy corset wearing ones where she was humping a stuffed carrot back in April (or catfishing with really old pics for patreon folows).
Here's the kicker though. That whole carrot thing was based off of Solgryn's art, which she filmed while she was still living with her now ex.
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My best guess is that she's living with Solgryn as he's her new mark to leech off of.
His real name is Jesper Erlandsen if you want to dig around on him more. According to his Linkedin profile, it says he's in the Copenhagen area though.
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>>10811>surgery monies! Leaving for the airport
So she's going to get surgery done in another country for dirt cheap? That's like 3k in the pile at most. Makes me wonder what she can even afford to get done at this point, because 3k isn't really much.>>10812
He definitely seems to have some kind of a black fetish based off some of his art, but even so, you'd think he could at least pull a cute black girl. I suppose there aren't that many black women in Copenhagen, let alone ones who would date a sort of creepy hentai artist?
She could probably be talking about AFTER surgery and a blue pill that's usually given after surgery is hydromorphone, which is an opiate that can knock you out (or make you see things depending on how you take it)
That's my guess from a pharmajew perspective!
I assume she did have surgery and is in recovery taking hydromorphone or something similar to surpress pain.
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Her new body looks weird…
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Nope this is the only one so far that's close up. I think this picture is her too from behind.
It looks like she only got her waist done.
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Her ‘after’ shot?
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Those crocs are rough looking
She does seem to have more of an hourglass shape but her shoulders are still broad as fuck. >>10835
I don’t see any signs of a compression garment much less foam and boards. It’s probably more like a waist trainer.
Ignore the weird random salty leggings anon, she legit looks homeless in her casual wear.>>10834>>10825
She's probably swollen from surgery still, but even if they only did her waist, the rest of her body still looks wide, hammy, and unfortunate.
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An actual decent pic for once. But her face is fatter than before.
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Still looks the same to me
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No matter how much lipo she gets on her waist & hips, her neck, shoulders & chest will always be wide as fuck. It doesn’t fit well with her new body & she needs to do something about that double chin of hers. Plus her arms are still fat as shit….
What's with these whiteknights?
She looks bad and is still a scammer? No one is mad that she paid thousands to still be fat. It's a simple fact.
Obviously it’s Del. You know she lurks here just wk herself after she does anything on social media now. >>10916
Face, okay. What about you manly shoulders/hammy arms. Lift some goddamn weights for once.
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Lip fillers? kek
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Lip fillers? kek
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Forgot to post from the other day, but I believe it’s semi official. Sage for ot
Poor dude, he's not great looking, but not ugly. Must be incel level to let Del move in and mooch off him for sex. Do you guys think she's back to escorting to make her surgery cash?>>10922>>10923
Her lips have always been really full though? Her lips were probably one of her better features. I don't get why she'd bother getting lip fillers when that money could have gone towards a surgery that could actually improve her looks?
How long before she starts looking like Momo?>>10926
She probably is back to escorting. She dresses like a hooker because she has been/ is one. That outfit is pretty awful though. The way the top is just makes it look like she permanently has her top pulled up and is showing off one of those lacy white granny bra.
He has a black fetish that’s why.
I don’t get why she got her lips done either. She always had full lips and I never heard of a black girl getting fillers. It seems like she’s quiet down a lot lately. After her Facebook scamming fiasco and being called out everyone who followed her turned against her. I wonder if she’s been running scams still but quieter about it
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She posted photos of her surgery results. It's a huge improvement, but at the same time, without losing any weight naturally, she's likely to go down the momokun route in the future.>>10929
She's trying to become relevant again via the gaming scene. First through her ex in the states who did speedruns or tournaments or whatever, but he was a nobody when it really came down to it. She tried to hook up with another more well known streamer, who turned her down, while she was still with her last dude. Seems like she even met Solgryn, the current guy, while still living with/dating the last one. She's a starfucker, but given her looks, her aim has to remain pretty low. Probably why she set her sights on the gaming scene too, it's predominantly male, lots of easy targets running about. She's clearly not in it for the gaming herself.>>10930
I think the anon was more so questioning why anyone would go to Sweden of all places for lip fillers. I'll agree it seems pretty random.
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Side view. Notice how she is covering her face in the after pics.
Ferries are dirt cheap yes but shes getting surgery so she has to stay somewhere for a night atleast (hotels arent cheap), she has to get from the port to the doctors and whatever else shes doing, food, etc.
its also just as funny thinking of her taking Stena Line ferries to and from on the same day while her face or body is fucked post op.
win-win shes either way exhausting resources and will do nothing but face financial issues for all this trouble 'saving' money.
(sage goes in the email field fam)
I’m pretty sure this is the same response from Del wking herself a earlier in this thread >>10606
Same quote & everything….>>10941
Hi Barbie! Nice to see you’re back….
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Based off his twitter background, prob a combo of black girl fetish like the other anon said (some Scandinavian ppl are really into non-white ppl bc it’s something different) and also a clear big tits/fat fetish.
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She's going to mess herself up with all that.
Shes a fraud anon. So far she has:
-TWO homes in japan (reality she could barely afford to live in share homes and pay her 50,000yen rent)
Now one house in Copenhagen and almost two? When she couldn’t even afford to pay rent and got no clients as an escort? It’s not even funny. She’s so far gone with delusions
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Her boyfriend must be paying for her surgeries.
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I came across this gold mine so here's what I have to say about Delandra.. How does she con people into liking her? HA NVM I once fell for her bullshit too! She has absolutely nothing to offer. I've seen guys she's dated in the states. Shes rapey, aggressive, demanding, and controlling. Well she's like that with anyone shes around, really. Also saw those reply vids she did at Cola. She practically called herself out, seeing as she acts the exact same way she accused Cola of being. I would know, I knew her personally years ago and let her stay at my place. She was rude and controlling of MY space. Touching my thermostat that she didnt pay the bill to. I mean I wouldn't want to stay in a dirty place either, but you chanced that decision when you decided to go to a strangers house. As I took that chance of letting a psychopath stay over and try to control how I ran my house. She likes to victim blame and act like shes the innocent one. Talks a lot about people spending money on drugs and alcohol, but that's the exact type of girls she would come after. Girls who seemed to be in a bad spot. To offer them a better life and lots of money. Just to manipulate and recruit them to stripping. Just so she could later on, kick out, and keep their belongings. Complete trash. Plastic surgery wont fix the mental on this one
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Spoilered the surgery pic just in case because I don’t know if that qualifies as gore or not.
We already know she's a scammer
. It's because she shows off every material item she gets from car,house and so on.
It's not that deep even though she scammed you..
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She's currently at the European Speedrunner Assembly, in case anyone cares.
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She looks like a color swap emilia fart.
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She's turning into a plastic surgery monster. kek
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She went to columbia for more surgery apparently!? Wonder how botched she's going to look after all this.
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Nah her nose looks good, I’m not sure about the rest of her surgeries
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Her nose looks the same, if not more bulbous?
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She finally did a full reveal post surgery.
Her nosejob looks crooked and she's still only wearing turtle necks which has me wondering if her neck lipo is botched too?
Her twitter. She doesn't update her social media much, but she made a post about tagging along with Jesper to Twitchcon EU.>>44341
Good? Her new bridge is literally crooked anon.
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I wish she would pick a natural hair color for once
Get out of my country pls
Also, this whole new look makes her look like that white German girl who transformed herself into a ‚black‘ person.
So she got full body lipo, including her eyelids and neck, lip fillers, hip/butt fillers, a boob lift, rhinoplasty, etc.
Imagine spending that much time/money and show up looking like this. >>44322
I can kind of see it. I wonder if we'll see her continue down the cosmetic surgery rabbit hole into lil kim territory.
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>>46716>she looks so fucking good
I never used to think she was all that cute, but in comparison to now? She peaked when she was skinny and scamming around Japan. Now she just looks like an incredibly bloated janice muppet.
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>>47077>she looks amazing
No amount of stanning can convince me this no-neck abomination "looks amazing". Sorry, anon.
Also, anyone else notice she still claiming Japan as one of her home locations? When was the last time she even went?
But anon she “owns a house in Japan”!
Also, what is that profile pic? Why would a sane person choose such an unfortunate selfie to promote themselves to the entire world?
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What do you mean, anon? She looks "amazing"!
A real "dime piece".
All joking aside, I wonder if the lipo she had done to her neck/jawline was botched. We haven't seen her outside of a turtleneck since before the surgery.
Doesn’t the swelling in that area takes a good while (like 2 or 3 months?) to go away?
Also I wish she’d go with her natural hair or at least with a more natural wig
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I’m surprised she hasn’t posted more body shots….
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So I just came across these lol….I think it’s more or a realistic idea of her after surgery body.
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Same name as the ads from the US, and same email. Even though she blurred her face & not wearing a shitty blonde wig, it’s def her….
She probably doesn't have money for a flight back home.
Its her and she changed her wig so no one could recognize her.
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Yeah and she has yet to go back.
Why didn't her so called "husband" attend the funeral?>>48134
Body unfortunate eww.
All that plastic surgery and still look grotesque.
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I've roasted her looks quite a bit, but I'll admit, the more natural looking wig looks so much better. I don't know why or how she doesn't seem to have even the slightest fashion sense, I guess it's the whole desperation to stand out and ugly barbie aesthetic? She's STILL trying to pretend she's relevant to Japan/Gyaru scene too even though it's been years now.>>49789
Her hip to waist ratio is the only improvement imho. Her boobjob looks painful and hard. I wonder if they are botched like Angela or Sere's.>>49234
Still stripping and escorting, how unsurprising.
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Imagine spending 25k+ on plastic surgery so your attractive, just enough, to go back to stripping for a living.
In the States too. I wonder if she scammed the last guy with the surgery bills and bailed.
I think her visa ran out so she’s just in America to pass time.>>51685
Where did you see this anon? She’s still fat as hell with small tits
Her boobs look sorta decent from this angle tbh, but it does make me wonder if she has bad scarring that she's hiding. People with a lot of melanin in their skin tend to keloid, like when Angela/Himeka got those horrific raised lollipop scars from her botch job. I'll agree though, all that lipo and she's still fat. She forgot to get her arms done too, they look massive which doesn't help with her linebacker shoulders.>>51689
The teller recounts it before depositing it to confirm the total. It's not like that's even a lot of money though, it's mostly all ones. Guess she doesn't get many lap dance requests. Unsurprising.
That may be her post anon but that photo isn't of her. She blurred it out because it isn't her. Shes much darker than the girl in the photo. Also her most recent Instagram shot makes her look awful. I really feel bad for her because all these surgeries are making her look worse and worse. The people in her comments on IG that say she looks amazing should be blocked. Their obliviously lying and trying to egg her on for more failure.
Someone said it before, she peaked when she was running around Japan. Now she looks like a hood trans person with all these surgeries.
Also her defending herself on here all the time shows that all these hurtful comments she's been receiving over the years obviously affected her. I wish she would stop with the surgeries. Also I wish she would settle down and get into a REAL
marriage with a man that can take care of her and won't allow her to strip or sell herself. She can't do that forever, and these botched surgeries will only age her faster.
But first before she gets involved in any real relationships, she needs some mental help. She's had family problems for a long time and that could be the reason she is the way she is now. She isn't that old yet, I think she can unlearn a lot of her behavior and stop screwing people over. She just needs to let go of her stubbornness and see that she has serious problems that surgery won't fix.
I think it's her, anon. But it's definitely edited to make her seem more hourglass shaped and lightened her skin. Her thighs look a lot less lumpy there too in comparison to >>51685
She's too caught up in trying to prove something constantly (lying about multiple houses in multiple countries, shopping sprees, excessive surgeries, etc) to actually ever settle down or do something beyond hoing around. She literally just had a semi notable, and somewhat decent looking, dude in the european videogame community housing her, paying for her shit, etc. and she still couldn't lock it down. She's just too thirsty for a scam I guess. Similar to Lorena/Sere really, but she's never managed to scam her way back into Japan as of yet.>>51685>>51686
Btw, where did these pics come from? She hasn't updated her twitter, facebook, or IG in forever. Is this her self-posting or?
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Muscle? She has never had a very muscular build. She was definitely very boxy though and the weight gain didn't help. Her arms are fat because she got the rest lipoed and forgot to do her hammy arms too, much like momokun did. Their figures aren't that different from eachother's tbh, wide linebacker shoulders and all.
I do wonder what her endgame is. Trying to snag a rich man in one of the sleazy strip joints she works at? Dutch dude seemed like a decent catch for her, but I suppose she burns through these dudes quickly and jumps ship to the next paycheck.>>51956
In regards to self-posts. It looks like she was self-posting to PULL too? She necroed her dead thread with her surgery before and after pics on an account that only has that one post. Pathetic.
Should add that those pics also confirm that>>49232
is definitely her. Look at that wallpaper.
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One of her stripper friends/coworkers in Texas uploaded a short clip of her on their IG story. She still looks huge regardless of all that lipo. Face doesn't look much like her more recent staged pics either.
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Still Stripping and showing off the curves.
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Dude in the back face kills me…>>54773
She hasn't been with him in months. She must've got kicked to the curb.
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Looks like her & Solgryn are still somewhat together. Idk
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I came across this on Twitter. Apparently somebody didn’t want her at a GDQ after party. Now she’s playing the bullied victim as always.
GDQ literally bans people for minor offenses, so I'm sure if she has a known reputation, she wouldn't be very welcomed there. She can cry all she wants about it, but in reality, she's a nobody?>>56066
Old pic or did she finally whore up enough money to crawl her way back into Europe?
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Must be old cause she was still in the states shacking up with random speedrunner dudes at GDQ and is already back to work at her local sleezy strip joint.
Ngl, now that her face has settled a bit, she looks a little better, though she's still hiding her chin/neck constantly. Still got a mom body too. You can see her sucking it in and trying to hide her tummy constantly with her hand. Wonder when she'll get more surgery, lord knows she's addicted to the knife.
She looks like a fusion between Tana Mongoose and that white lady who has had surgery to look as "black" as possible
Plastic surgery not even once tbh.
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Something funny I noticed. She originally had multiple people tagged in this group shot that she had posted to her IG. All, but one of those people have untagged themselves from the photo now. Considering the drama she brought up at GDQ of someone "talking shit" it's safe to say she's got a reputation in the scene.
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Her bridge is definitely crooked. Honestly her nose looks way worse up close, she paid thousands for an actual potato nose.
Her chin lipo does look decent from a high angle like this, but we've seen it from lower angles like >>56145
>>56066 where you can definitely see her double chin peeking. She also still has no neck somehow too? I don't think she had a tummy tuck, just lipo and a butt lift? She probably could have used a tummy tuck though cause she does have a pretty obvious fupa in her stripper outfits >>56145
totally looks like a bad tuck job though, kek.>>57966
Seems to be him, which is odd. I wonder if she was staying with him and sleeping with him while stripping in TX? These dudes she uses are the saddest of sad. She didn't even tag him in the pic either originally, maybe hiding it from solgryn?
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It does look like him. I could only find one pic of him facing up close.
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Her face has definitely settled now, but apparently she is getting more work done
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Is this another selfpost? She is still looking busted.
This. All that money on a new nose, new tits, new ass, but she can't count calories?
Ridiculous. All of that shit is a waste when you're obese.
She is broke
. She needed a coworker to drive her to work and never paid her for gas. Boyfriend pays for her surgery not her
Yeah, she was cucking Solgryn in Texas too. She goes to these gaming events with her ass and titties out trying to hug up on literally any semi notable dude in the scene and it's honestly really embarrassing. She's starting to get a reputation for it too.>>60281
Solgryn is such a sad sack tbh. Paying thousands of dollars for her to morph herself into momokun proportions meanwhile she's trying to fuck every other dude she comes in contact with at these events. kek.
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You don't have to wait, sweetie. Just peep the earlier part of the thread and her twitter. She was stripping, escorting, and even hanging around with her ex while in Texas. On top of that, she had drama at GDQ because she has a reputation in the scene already, no one actually really likes her, she's not a gamer or a creator, she's literally a gamer groupie, kek.>>56838
The group pic of her next to her "ex" where everyone, but one dude untagged themselves from within a day of her posting it.>>56067
Her whining about "og staff" at GDQ not liking her and not wanting her there.
She has a long history of groupie behavior, even back in gyaru. Gamers are her new scene since she wasn't wanted in the gyaru scene. She latched onto the metalhead texas dude first cause he was easy and less known, then had all that drama with the streamer who had a girlfriend in Cali last year because she was trying to sleep with him, but he rejected her. Solgryn was a big enough cuck to pick her up and she's still sleezing around the scene.
Also, here's an example of what she's been wearing out to a big gaming event, in regards to me saying she's running around with ass and titties out while she's trying to hug up on these dudes. She's really out here going to these things in a party city wig and a corset too. kek.
Not sure about all that other stuff but what does her being a sex worker have to do with anything? Slut shaming in 2019 LOL
Yeah a lot of text with no proof common trend around here. Barbie looks damn good in those photos too :)(literal whore)
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WK Barbie going all in tonight.
kek, bitch where?
Also, most of these dudes aren't her "friends", they barely know her. She can ask them for awkward selfies all day long and try to slide into their DMs as much as she wants. At the end of the day, she's still just that groupie girl with no gaming or creation skills trying to get an in on the scene. Do yourself a favor Barbie, get off your fat ass and learn a trade/skill that isn't just sucking dick.
Barbie still looks a hot mess. She's still built like a fridge. Good on her for having some semblance of a waist now that she got all that lipo, I guess? It's a real shame the neck lipo didn't work and her fupa is so stubborn tho. kek.
>>60378>we are coming
You realize the selfie selfposts and these shitty unsaged whiteknight posts are literally the only reason this thread ever gets bumped, right? This thread is usually pretty dead otherwise.>>60379>>60380>>60381
How mad are you rn, cow?
>>60416It's because she don't have friends.
That's her husband defending her. I don't know what she means by people like her?
if she read the gaming threads they say pretty racist stuff about her. Someone tried to get her banned for flashing too.
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Some receipts before she try to lie again.
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She’s not married anymore. Her marriage was a fraud on both parts. The guy wanted more government money from the military because they pay more if you get married. She wanted to be able to stay in Japan and scam more dumbass weebs into thinking she was a dark skint plus sized moderu. That guy is LONG gone or if they’re still married they’re separated. It’s Delandra defending herself because she has severe mental illness and really thinks she’s the shit. I’m willing to bet she has some form of delusion to the point of danger.
The next guy she kept around was the greasy neck beard metal fag. She was dating him so she could potentially marry him and wait until his mother died and she could get the life insurance money. If that don’t tell you how fucked she is idk.
Next guy was Solene or whatever his name is. He’s a Scandinavian guy and is decent looking. He could have any beautiful Nordic looking woman yet he picked Delandra because he has a black fetish. Just like the guys paying her 10,000Yen for a screw back in Japan. Black fetishists with zero other options. It’s the same as when you see weebs with ugly Fillipino guys. Best they can Get.
Nobody is defending Delandra besides herself. She did it on PULL before and was caught.
Gamers and racism are like one and two. I wonder if the people she's been taking photos with in >>60370
later went on to talk shit about her online.
No it’s onky been one, the Mexican army guy who married her for government cheese. She lies about everything.
She lied about her baby dying when it was just a dog, she lied about adopting a fillipino kid, she lied about having three houses in Japan, she lied about anyone giving a damn about her in Japan. She’s seriously fucked in the head.
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Yeah, I don't support the racial aspect of hating on her whatsoever, but it's an unfortunate toxic
part of the gaming scene.
However, they aren't wrong about her bringing her dog on stream and being a distraction the whole time, letting her nipples peek out of her clothes at a family friendly event, and being a general attention whore with her ass and tits out almost the entire time while trying to get friendly with literally every other dude there, especially the ones with any kind of notoriety. I've said it before, she's literally just a groupie and solgryn is her cuck enabler at the moment. Anyone who isn't her, who is whiteknighting her is either solgryn himself or one of the few other thirsty orbiters she has hovering around at the moment.
She actually did a stream the other day about her upcoming surgery and throughout the stream it was mostly just solgryn rattling on in the chat with a couple others popping in to say hello. Apparently, she's getting her thighs lipoed next along with another round on her stomach, going back to columbia to do it. Solgryn is tagging along and footing the bill, of course. She also said she is getting more ass fillers and has had her arms lipoed once already, which comes as a shock to me cause just look at them. Said she is going to twitch con weeks after the surgery and that it will be her "last surgery" which I'm sure we can all expect to be bullshit.
Oh yeah, she also claimed she was an actual model when she was in Japan? She literally said "when I was modeling in Japan" at one point of the stream. Bitch, where? kek.
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Tbh I'm surprised she's not going for another round of chin and neck lipo considering the last one did nothing. Wasn't sure if it was the lighting at first, but after seeing it in motion on camera, her nosejob is definitely crooked too. Sage for samefag, but here's an additional screencap.
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she also tweeted this while you were lurking her shit, but you must have missed this too huh?
>>60656>takes out time to meticulously stalk her social media and create a collage of pictures of her
All I had to do is click photos on her twitter and copy paste. Took maybe five minutes at most in mspaint. It's not that deep. kek.
>People are always against plastics when they are broke, you’re poor we get it.
Either you are her or one of her "surgery sisters". Did you pay thousands to look as botched as her? It's no secret she goes to Columbia to get surgery on a budget cause she can't afford a real doctor.https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/colombia/article216894500.html
All these claims and nothing to ever back them up. It's been years since she's even been in Japan. Remember when she used to claim to own multiple homes across multiple continents? kek
This girl has taken the motto "fake it till you make it" to the extreme.
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She's prepping for several rounds of lipo yet eating like this? No wonder she's starting to get a figure like momokun.
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>claims she doesn't have a bad reputation
>claims streamers girlfriends can't stand her
Pick one. We all remember the situation with the streamer Drakodan, there's a good reason the girlfriends shouldn't trust or like you. kek
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For those unfamiliar with the Drakodan drama. Basically, she tried to mooch off Drakodan to attend a gaming event in the UK. She flew out to London, expecting to stay at his place, but he felt uncomfortable with her staying with him because he has a girlfriend and Delandra wasn't getting the hint that he didn't want to fuck her, he straight up told her he only wanted to be friends. Drakodan's girlfriend tries to play mediator and is kind enough to try to help Del get a hotel in the area, but Delandra throws a tantrum instead claiming that he wouldn't have turned her down if she wasn't black?
Drakodan's girlfriend dropped a bunch of screencaps of her conversation with Delandra in the previous thread, but I can't get them to link properly.
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Also peep how she uses the race card so much it’s offensive. She doesn’t have nearly the amount of orbiters she used to but they still act like attack dogs for her.
OT but this picture is pathetic. She’s such a liar and went to cheap dirty ass Colombia for surgery. She reminds me of the himeka girl how
Much she lies…
I forgot about Himeka tbh, wonder what she's been up to since she got chased off the internet for her botched boobjob.
I still can't believe Delandra is so cheap that she's getting all her surgeries done in Columbia of all places. She'll be lucky if she only ends up botched.
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Del, you don't have to self post/flex here every time you get a new surgery. We get it, you had to pay thousands of dollars to have a waist line, cool.
It's all good either way, she'll eat her way back to her old proportions in due time.
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She looks like that 80s movie Weird Science with the machine that makes your proportions fucked up
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Given her massive shoulders and lack of neck, she's going to come out looking like this dk meme. Countdown to her next lipo/surgery when?
She said it was her "final" round of lipo in a stream about a month ago, on her stomach and thighs. >>60642
I'm honestly surprised she isn't getting lipo on her lunch lady arms or double chin, but I guess the first round didn't really do much.
Why does she lie and call herself a game developer when it's literally just Solgryn doing all the work? Why does she claim she's super close to a bunch of big name streamers even though almost all of them they hardly acknowledge her? Why does she still claim to have a house in Japan and has worked as a "model" when she was there?
She's just trying to flex and claim any tiny scrap of clout she possibly can. Literally the only thing she has going for her is that she's Solgryn's live in sex toy. He's still a massive cuck though given that she's still escorting on the side to help pay for her surgeries though. kek.
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She looks so out of place here.
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I’m curious if she’ll fuck anybody over during her trips?
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Seems she got fired from her stripper joint back to patron it is.
She's been spamming this dumb ad all over social media for at least week now and still only has 6 patreons, at least one of which is her beloved cuck, Solgryn. Probably still needs to pay off her latest surgery botch job she got in Columbia on top of funding hoeing around various gaming cons.>>67387
She's just like Momokun tbh. She was always a little on the chubby side, but she got fat because she's lazy and eats trash like >>61278
all the time. This is her second time getting lipo and she's still hiding her doughy waist.
Her results the first time looked pretty good very briefly as seen in >>10933
but she quickly undid it and gained. Her and mooriah both need to learn that lipo won't counteract their unhealthy lifestyles.
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Her post surgery face without layers of filters. I hate to say it, but she was cuter before? She looks trans now and her nose bridge is obviously crooked.
I’m surprised the con didn’t kick her out, now she know that top is too small for her…
Her ass flashed everyone I bet.
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She did herself dirty with the under eye injections too. She has permanent uneven eyebags now which only ages her face? >>67616
It gets worse. She wore this out to the con too. She's literally out here at a con in her stripper gear. kek.
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She literally had her titties, gut, whole ass and fupa out at the twitchcon event. No class.
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You're right anon >>68416
It's honestly so cringy seeing her appear at video game/streaming events dressed like this. What does she hope to gain? This is not the local strip club.
She could just lose some damn weight and become Belle Delphine: Busty Gyaru edition if she's so thirsty for attention/money from gamer boys.
It's secondhand embarrassing imagining them all mocking her and calling her Jynx the moment she's out of earshot.
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She's looking better than hefty post-Japan her, but I'd still argue she peaked in Japan, albeit very briefly. She seems like she's always struggled with staying slim and unfortunately with her body type, any extra weight only emphasizes how top heavy, especially in the shoulders, she is. They lipoed her whole body, twice, from her thighs up to her neck and she still has this sort of weird, no neck, linebacker body? The bad hair, makeup, fashion choices and botched facial surgeries, etc. only kind of add to her looking like a post op trans woman tbh.>>68566
She's a "starfucker" with her sights set extremely low. She used to try to fuck her way up in the gyaru circles in Japan, now she's set her eyes on gamer dudes. Probably not the worst concept as there are plenty of desperate dudes to choose from, just look at Solgryn. He's her resident dutch cuck "husband", he brings her to events, helps pay for her surgeries and she was still escorting out of his home too. She's also trying to get her patreon/twitch to take off, but she's really not as well liked in the scene as she'd like to believe she is.
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Her body looks fucked up after surgery.
Responding to a two month old comment, so saging. Drakodan's gf here to just respond to this situation with a little clarification. Was surprised to see this mention as little as two months ago because well, this all happened over 2 years ago now.
I want to clarify that Delandra wasn't barred from Drako's house because we are together since he had very much made it clear to her he was not interested in her like that. She was because he brought her up to a mutual friend of ours who said "I'd suggest you look into this girl's history before you let her stay with you, even if just for a couple of days". That's what led him to find the threads here, which led to him ultimately deciding she was trouble. That aside, it was super clear she wanted to fuck too, and that she just thought she could prey on someone who was potentially insecure, vulnerable, had low self esteem and too trustworthy for their own good, since that's her modum operandi.
In addition to this, at the time, Drako had another roommate, who is an extremely insular person who doesn't trust strangers at all, and would've not been okay with Delandra there regardless. He straight up said he would not let her stay.
There was also some other more personal things with regards to the situation which I'd rather not go into. I don't want to reveal too much at the digression of others involved.
Either way, she did make it to ESA as far as I know (of course she would, she travels the world on her own all the time, apparently), so it's clear she just wanted to cause drama or make someone feel sorry for her so she could mooch off of them.
Oh, and irrelevant to what I'm saying overall, but said mutual friend tried to have a conversation with her in Japanese and she clearly couldn't understand a word he was saying. Have to wonder how she managed to live in Japan like that.
Just saw this now. Her thread is a bit dead now that she keeps a low profile online, but I wanted to thank you for clarifying the situation even though it was a while ago. Good on Drakodan for looking into her first and good on you for backing him up tbh. You have her MO down to a T. Is it true she has a reputation at the gaming events like I've heard?
Also, she doesn't speak Japanese, literally the only reason she lived there was because she married a dude who was military and stationed there. Same reason she was in Guam working as a stripper for a while. She used him and was a serial cheater. She literally just jumps guy to guy and pretends their accomplishments and houses, cars, etc. are all her own.>>72194
That's what happens when you go to Columbia for cheap surgery. You get botched.
She has a reputation for trying to mooch off of people in general. At GDQs, because there's a limited number of rooms, she would try to scalp roommate costs so she would have to pay less or nothing at all for her room, which caused a discussion of whether or not that was against the rules. Not to mention she brings her dog as a "emotional support pet" and doesn't tell roommates she has one, potentially exposing people to allergies. From what I've seen, she doesn't really have much of a friend group who she can share a room with like what most people tend to do at these events so that's why she does the price scalping. That's the one thing she is known for within the community.
I don't know much else other than that she really liked to suck up to certain men in the community, and was even a mod in a mutual friend's chat for a while. She would post very sexually provocative messages in stream chats of male speedrunners from what I've seen, Drako being one of them. I don't go around asking people their opinion on her, but they probably see her as attention starved and a leech because of these things.
She lives with solgryn in Denmark or whatever. She hasn't lived in Tokyo for years now, she's just on vacay.>>72426
So basically Del is still just a conman trying to mooch off desperate men. Shocking. Good on most of the dudes knowing better and not being fooled by a pair of flabby tits.>>72536
She's broke irl. Let's be real. She only was hustling so hard so she could go get botched down in Columbia.
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Still a backpage escort, shocking.
I'm honestly surprised she's happy with the results, weird crooked nose, back hump, and all. I suppose having fake tits and a slightly flatter stomach outweighs the cons for her?
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Her old nose was a little wide maybe, but the new nose healed really poorly imho. Her nostrils are really wide, the tip is very bulbish, the whole thing is more than "slightly" crooked, and there's that god awful weird ridge between her eyes? Her new nose is easily the worst feature on her face rn. She has nice lips and she only semi ruined her eyes with those dumb puffy eyebag injections.
The work on her body could have been good if she didn't go to Columbia for full body lipo on the cheap. She was always awkwardly top heavy, so I get why she opted to do it, but she should have lost some weight first and found a more legitimate doctor. Same goes with her botched nose job.
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She's back and trying to get in on the recent smash bros metoo shit by accusing one of the nicest dudes in the scene of being an abuser.https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CjIBEKk8D8xVd2WW5JQg54jGQ74bVt_M2r674fWd2t8/preview?pru=AAABc44FT84*AIcTFLK91KmFRTltdRatcA
She leaves a lot out of the story. She was recently back from Japan, after lying about her vacation home in the Philippines and dating a man there, then onto scamming some stripper in Guam. Separated/Divorcing her army husband and back into the states to be with the speed runner metal head boyfriend in the states. During this time she continuously lied about owning a house in Japan and still living in Japan, being a part of the gal circle, etc. It's all in her old thread.
Sounds like she used her boyfriend, as was suspected, as an in to the speed runner world to get closer to bigger names to clout chase. She slept with Caleb and clearly tried to bully him into a relationship as seen in the texts she herself posted. When Caleb ended up dating someone else Del faked a pregnancy or had legitimately tried to get pregnant during their hookup to hold it against him? Either way, it's disturbing.
Then she happily continued using her boyfriend until moving onto Solgryn, opening a whole new source to network and clout chase through.
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This part gave me a laugh though. As she has been escorting since her days in Japan and even made porn with some Japanese guy while she was still married? Whatever you say Delandra. kek
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Somebody made a thread on /r/samandtolki (speedrunning drama subreddit) about her accusing CalebHart https://www.reddit.com/r/SamandTolki/comments/hvvaeo/calebhart42s_accuser_barbiexedge_is_a_known/
Pic related is from the thread - Nancy is someone who called CalebHart out for groping her last year but eventually apologized and took back her accusation
So, will Barbie finally go to jail？his mom is pursuing the case against her and I cannot wait to see how this turns out. Wrong victim
So she tried to scam again but didn’t know the dad was a lawyer. Bitch I’m cackling.
Barbie ass was scared and pull out immediately.
She went the ethot way and still not pulling in onlyfans moola. How pathetic..>>107582
I’m not really surprise look at ol dude she say she is married
to. It looks like she was cheating on him with Caleb. The guy she with now is only a meal ticket until she find another victim
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So it's true that she got kicked out of Japan?? I thought there was only speculation but this Milla person claims she was the one responsible? I know the name "Milla Lucci " is an alias but whoever you are, if you see this, can you explain how you got her kicked out? Barbie made it seem like she was still able to go to Japan.
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Kek. So she doesn’t age? Pretty sure her correct age is 31.
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I’m sorry but her ass still looks gross af.
So much money wasted on a botched booty.
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I know damn well Del sent this!
Glad that this thread has helped some people avoid her in the future. She's nothing but bad news and was probably trying to dig her claws into your boyfriend's brother for clout and/or to try to pull a scam like she did on Caleb Hart.
Is she living in Vegas currently or was she just visiting? I wonder if she's working as an escort again.
Filtered to hell and back.>>138743
She is looking for another prey and guy to use for clout.
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Maybe we can work with her.