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A thread to discuss Shane Dawson and all the milky youtubers he hitches his wagon to. Previous series include:>CONFRONTING MY HATER (Bobby Burns)>SWITCHING LIVES WITH TRISHA PAYTAS>EXPOSING A YOUTUBER - GRAV3YARDGIRL>The Truth About Tana Mongeau>$10 Million Celebrity Mansion for a Day (Kathy Griffin)>The Secret World of Jeffree Star>The Mind of Jake Paul>Investigating Conspiracies (Brittani Louise Taylor)>The Return of Eugenia Cooney
Up & Coming:>Untitled Makeup Community "Documentary">Shane Dawson x Jeffree Star Palette
Shane loves to make ultra-biased click-baity videos where he will "EXPOSE" or "FIX" controversial youtubers, but usually just ends up helping the insanely rich youtuber, giving them a platform to cry and look sympathetic and show themselves in a good light. Onion continues to try and bait Shane, Shane continues to ignore Onion's existence.
Shane Dawson's Crew/Additional Collaborators:>Ryland Adams: Fiance>Morgan Adams: Fiance's sister>Andrew Siwicki: Cameraman & Editor>Garrett Watts: Big tall friend>Kati Morton: Questionable therapist>Jeffree Star: Scary cosmetic alien
Previous Thread: >>697489
Discussion of Eugenia Cooney, continuing from >>840670>Eugenia Cooney>Eugenia Cooney's Mom/Family>Jaclyn Glenn/David Michael Frank/Evangeline DeMuro's Responses
Jaclyn Glenn's Initial Vid:https://youtu.be/0a43ImW_OK0
Eugenia Cooney's Response:https://youtu.be/4UkYeSLxrto
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Shane continues to shamelessly shill JS.
Fuck you Shane.
Now she can happily go her way into death, because you
said she's recovered.
I wonder what his exuse will be once she's dead. Maybe he'll film with her mom and she can tell her "I loved her so much but I couldn't do anything for her" story so she doesn't take the blame.
Shane's been acting like a retard since he befriended Jeffree.
He's a bully whose attacking his own fans and sends his fanbase after them and he constantly inserts himself in things he knows nothing about.
I'm the anon you're replying to
Oops lol, you're totally right. I meant Shane, but yeah, he probably got that from Jeffree since he's exactly the same and even worse.
Shane doesn't care. He's like Maury or Jerry Springer, except he has this "Lol, Relatable" & a bunch of YouTubers shilling him & overhyping everything he does.
I've seen so many people saying he "Saved" so and so. What?
He's not going to hang around EC how he's hanging and licking Jeffree's fake ass. EC doesn't fit in his glam gay/girl friend group.
Jeff's fake ass and his paid off high boyfriend do. Shane is just a user. He just likes people that make him look better & feel "In" to be around him. He loves to expliot himself and others for attention.
I bet you he doesn't talk to the non-famous people in his Docs anymore.
I bet you EC will make a video about how she hasn't spoken to Shane in X months.
He & Jeff are one of the same if you ask me, Jeff just can't hide the fact he's a sorry fake asshole, who has to purchase people & things and start drama to make him happy.
Shane needs to fix his own issues. I bet he'll do a "doc" on himself soon.
I don't care if EC is a fan of Jeffree's make up, but this whole thing comes off as another way for Shane to promote this "Jeffree's not a bad person, so don't get mad at me for this collab, thanks" Documentary.
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>>843264>Using an abused dying girl to promote your buddy flaming faggot's makeup
Yeah, hit the nail on the head on why this feels SO icky. (Though there's a million other things to call Jeffree besides the f-word)>>843280
I mean, she seems to still style herself in/live in the "early '00s myspace scene queen" aesthetic, so it's not at all surprising that she would be a JS stan.
Anyways, not Shane's fault but apparently there's been fake "Shane Giveaway" accounts.
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>>843458>>843346>shane has always been a clout chaser using other people to boost his fame.
Eh, I don't think this is true really. I don't think he uses other people to climb the ladder, because he's always been a massively popular OG youtuber. He's been at the top of the youtube ladder for over a decade already. He had merch at Hot Topic ~8 years ago, I don't think other youtubers did.
What I WOULD say, is he uses other people's tragedies and controversies to create content that boosts his popularity and makes him look like a better person. And less-popular youtubers chomp at the bit to be exploited by Shane, because it boosts THEIR popularity. The Bobby Burns series is a clear example of that.
Never forget shit like pic related. I've never gotten past like, the first few minutes so correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the guy was even his friend so much as just a dude that went to the same high school as Shane (Kirk Michael Galvin), who ended up violently and horrifically murdering his uncle.>the POPULARS all bullied me>Kirk was a POPULAR but didn't like, actively bully me>Standing in the same room as someone and not pointing and laughing at them = friend! >He was a GREAT guy you guise, idk what happened :///>?????>Profit (off of this tragedy)
Jaclyn made another video: "Why I Spoke Out About Eugenia."
>Shane made a video for millions to see. The problem is that it’s untrue in a way that keeps her in a very dark place. So that’s why I made my video as fast as I could, because I was scared that this narrative would persist that she is fine now and I very much believe that she is not.
Kati is the one who told Jaclyn to lure her to apartment for legal reasons; “Kati knows the darkest details of that home.”
>Throughout our friendship I kept things very private, offline, until that ability has essentially been ripped away from me. And I knew that this would do that, I knew this would be the end of my friendship. It kind of amazes me that anyone thinks the ability to reach out privately is even an option for me. I don’t think it ever will be again.
>If we didn’t do that intervention, she would have died. And I know that that is a harsh thing to say but I fully believe it. Some people hate me, some people say that we saved her and I do not think we saved her because she is still in the same environment, in a dangerous environment with the same people who for years of her life when she was struggling told her that she was fine…
>She [Eugenia] was in tears because her mom has her convinced that if she goes against what her mom wants, her mom could die, because she has a weak heart. She was in tears saying, “If I go to a doctor my mom could die because she has a weak heart and this will stress her out.” She lives in constant paranoia of killing her mother. She takes care of her mother and it should be the other way around.
talks about a friend’s suicide 10 years ago:
>I was aware of problems in the home and I said nothing. I didn’t feel like it was my place. […] I can’t live with that feeling of knowing you could have said something and didn’t, because you can never go back, and I just can’t have that again. So yeah, maybe I’m selfish…
>Selfish would have been to keep my friend and bury my head in the sand and do nothing, and not worry about the backlash, that would’ve been selfish and easy.
>People are saying stuff like, “Maybe the mom’s not so bad after all.” The same mom who tried to have me arrested for kidnapping? The same mom who told her daughter to ignore authorities and run from mental health professionals? The same mother who never took her daughter to a doctor? The mother who in countless YouTube videos has taken her daughter shopping, having her try on skimpy clothes, saying how cute she looks? The mother who has numerous times told her daughter, “You’re fine, you don’t need help. I don’t know why people think there’s something wrong with you. Ignore what you see online”?
Not going to lie this does seem like it's kind of an…invasion of privacy. I feel like THIS could do more harm than good to EC, Basically telling the world that her mom is the monster we believe her to be.
But at the same time, we have Shane pretending to be her friend & using her to shill makeup and make content, AT LEAST I feel like this is from the heart. It's not made from a place of, "Oh, I'm the DOC QWEEN now, I saved so many! And when I get with Jeffree I'm going to be the BGuru QUEEN!" that's what I feel when I think of Shane & his part in this.
However, I don't know how to feel. It feels Icky but then again, They decided it was cool to have EC on camera, even if it's the last place she needs to be.
Doing a Doc fresh out of rehab and being used y Shane to Jerk Jeff's small dick off.
So why can't an ex-friend someone who actually did more than shove a camera in her face speak out?
They should've known that this would only make people look at EC more. When really it's been more about Shane "Saving her" and EC just being another person he exploits for views and attention.
This person has done more & knows more than Shane, plus she actually GIVES A FUCK.
she cares about EC on a personal level when to Shane it's a business level & entertainment Level.
agreed. I think shane's doc was awful and probably did more harm than good, but I could say the same about jaclyn's video. the internet knowing that her mom is abusive
won't do anything. her fans knew that she was anorexic for YEARS and she only ever got help because her friends staged an intervention.
I feel for her because it must be incredibly painful to watch her friend go through something like this but I don't think putting her private issues in the public eye like this was the right thing to do.
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>>843613>20 min video
Bless u for writing this up so we didn't have to watch it all.
>Kati is the one who told Jaclyn to lure her to apartment for legal reasons>“Kati knows the darkest details of that home.”
Ok, yeah we were talking about this a little bit in the last thread. It's just so confusing, like…what's Kati's agenda here? Or is money just her only agenda? She's thrown any line between "Mental Health Professional contuct" and "Youtube Content" completely out the window for any chance to shill her book.
Is it at all ethical/legal for her to directly
advise Jaclyn what to do? It seems like if someone reached out to any mental health professional in a mental health context they would immediately have to be like "She's not my patient, please don't discuss any details of her personal life because I cannot advise you on those. I can only advise you in the most general sense, here's what to do if you're concerned that someone is in danger or a danger to themselves or others
", (basically what she tried to do with Shane). Like for her to discuss in-depth details of Eugenia's life from a second hand source and advise based on that seems like a massive breech of professional conduct. Even if she's not working in a professional therapy context with Shane/Eugenia/Jaclyn, isn't she still held to a code of ethics? Like, there's plenty of medical doctors on youtube that talk about their field/expertise, but they couldn't be like "based on what you've described of your friend's symptoms over email, here's a prescription I've written for them!
If I was Jaclyn and I had a whole ass in-depth ongoing convo about Eugenia and how she's in danger with Kati, and then Kati showed up in a popular youtuber's sensationalized video feigning complete ignorance of the situation and how dangerous it is, I would be confused and frustrated too. I know what she gains from being on Shane's channel (money) but what does she gain from lying about/hiding her involvement? Is it because Jaclyn n friends did what they did on Kati's direct instructions and it kind of blew up in their face? I would assume she's trying to cover her ass (especially after what happened with the Jake Paul series) but Jaclyn already posted caps in a previous video that shows Kati discussing Eugenia's life with Kati. (grabbed from last thread).
Internet knowing daddy of 5 was abusive
did manage to do some good. Public outrage can occasionally work to benefit victims
it's a real rollercoaster when you help out someone in a life-threatening situation like this. without blogging I'll just say the story gets rewritten at the end and the person who did the saving can be ostracised and villain-ised while enablers gather round to bask in the glory.
Jaclyn can see she has no further clout in this situation so exposing the layers of it is probably the only thing she can think of to do to help now.
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>>843753>maybe since Eugenia’s weight concern was plastered all over the internet she felt like she needed to help since she specializes in eating disorders
I mean, maybe? I don't think that's how it works though, otherwise every doctor/therapist would just run around treating people against their will because it seemed obvious to them. Even then, why wouldn't she just do it herself instead of through Jaclyn and Shane?
Also I just looked at her LinkedIn. She does claim to be a ED expert, but it doesn't look like she has more than a year of professional experience with it? Also I know there was all that talk during BetterHelp-gate that Kati had a stake in it, was that ever confirmed? Because being the Co-Founder of an "Undisclosed" mental health start-up sure sounds like that.
Kati Morton needs a thread of her own tbh. She's STILL shilling BetterHelp even after it was proven to be a disgusting scam. The Kiwi Farms thread on BH has a shit ton of info but it seems like everyone kinda forgot about it. I mean, what kinda "professional" pretends to be a producer to get inside someone's house then diagnoses them? Then had the nerve to play victim
when she got criticism. Sorry, I just hate people like her who are driven by money and make a mockery out of mental health.
, she's not going to stop shilling it. I'd be very interested to know the nature of shane's deal with her actually. it's not just her book imo. the first launch of betterhelp onto youtube cashed and burned. kati normalising her face and presence and helping in all these crises (sociopathy! eating disorders!) may be setting the stage for a kinder reception of betterhelp the next time around? idk just tinfoiling as to why suddenly kati is the go-to for everyone.
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>>843790>Like… let her be a Youtuber. Let her forget she has an eating disorder. Let Shane Dawson and Jeffree Star try and leech off her platform by sending her products and doing her makeup. You know why? Because it's better than playing savior like everyone else. By the way she lit up in her new video it's obvious she enjoyed it, and being an actual guru can motivate her to stay in recovery so she can be successful like them, something to aspire her and get her out of the house and not desperately codependent on her mother. Anyone who thinks what Jaclyn is doing is helping her is a fucking idiot. I seriously can't roll my eyes enough.
She used to do makeup videos before and she obviously enjoyed doing that Kari cosplay video too, the one that made everyone freak out over the state of her body. Look how happy she seems on the photo, even though she looks she's about to die any second. Was everyone supposed to be like "Awwwww look she's happy, rest in peace btw :))"
We are supposed to watch her die while her fat pig of a mother swims in money? Or support that unwashed retarded slob Shane because he used her to get more exposure and also shamelessly shilled her fucking Jeffree Star's makeup? I just know that opportunistic piece of shit contacted her so he could get more cash.
Jaclyn making video about exposing the situation with her mother wasn't the best idea because this will definitely cause more problems for Eugenia in the future. She should have kept trying to help her "behind the curtain" since now shit will hit the fan even more. Eugenia's current situation is really tragic. I hope her mother gets hit by a truck.
By the way, can we not speculate on ~HoW iT AlL beGan~ because I'm seeing way too much talk in both these threads about how she may have been assaulted when nobody has anything to base it on. Nice projections and blogging everyone great job.
This is why E can't have a thread here, you obsessive creeps, this Shane video is just a work around for all the manure threads.
Eating disorders don't have one concrete manifestation, it falls under the OCD umbrella because it's a reaction to lack of control.
Let's call it like it is: she's been disordered ever since she was very young and it's probably her fat bitch Nmom, for real.
Let's not speculate that she's been victimized by anyone other than her terrible family.
>>843825>her biggest mistake was even TOUCHING on the fact that she was made out to be a bully when it saved her life.
Agreed. The accusations concerning Jaclyn doing all this purely for profit is odd considering she put her ass out on the line for EC. I mean maybe she is? I don't fucking know. Doing/saying nothing is worse than trying to get somebody help. If EC's family wasn't willing to do anything about it she most likely would have died. Now that she is back home it's hard to believe that she is going to continue getting help, I hope she does but how do you get that emaciated when your family sees you day in and day out in the first place?
Jaclyn at least had a friendship with EC that was outside of YT. Shane had her on his podcast once, and outside of sharing a platform I don't know what the nature of his relationship with her was. The doc was way too soon and seemed like a huge cash grab because even though he said the purpose was to "help others", why would you pick a girl fresh out of the hospital? There are so many other youtubers who have dealt with ED's that could have provided way more insight about the road to recovery.
That's true but I think government don't have spesific eating disorder facilities so that part makes sense to me.
I forgot to mention
>Edwin mentions hanging out with EC without her mom or a driver present at Vidcon and shows pictures of her and EC from the event.
>EC went to a different rehab centre after being released
I also think that attention was one of the things that made EC worst. Having an ED and then having a platform were you are known soley for that & then going on a Doc with a very popular Youtuber, giving you more attention then you've ever had, solely because of your ED, can't be healthy.
I'm sorry, there's no other way for me to look at this other then exploitive. From Shane, From EC, From her mom, everyone involved.
Her claim to fame is her appearance because of an ED. At least Jac was her friend & tried to help.
I'd rather have her friends and people who care speak out then praise Shane and pretend he "Saved" her or some shit.
If Jac is doing it for money, How isn't Shane someone whose not even a friend not doing it for attention, money, praise etc?
I don't get how people can still see what Jaclynn did as bad. Like maybe she's a cow, i don't know, i don't follow her, but what she did to Eugina was genuinly good. Maybe she's repeating the same things because its truly about those things and because she can't (for some reason) reveal more.
Also if EC's mom is genuinly abusive
(which I 100% believe she is), of course she wouldnt talk to her about it first. You don't negotiate with terrorists.
Yeah, I mean I think it's important that we don't ignore her complete abuse of her role. I definitely think she has a thread's worth of milk/things to talk about but I think that would crash and burn because like you said….people just forget? Or ignore her because "mental health uwu". I honestly cannot believe that between BetterHelp-gate and the Jake Paul series that Shane would EVER think it's a good idea to get involved with her again, but here we are? Tbh I thought after the Jake Paul fiasco someone would have reported her or something and she would have her licensure looked into or suspended. Also >>843767
it says she's still actively working as a Private Practice therapist….but she's obviously not? Just googling around I can't find any info on where she would practice/how to make an appointment with her etc that would indicate she's still working. That seems more to me like >LOOK u guise I'm a REAL therapist!! I still have patients!! >I don't even CARE about youtube and fame, I'm doing this to HELP people
when she's clearly thrown all of that out the window because she makes more money reading her DSM on youtube + selling a book
Also she gave Shane that robe that he sat in for like, 6 months clearly not mentally stable….so I kind of feel like she was somewhat to blame for letting him clearly stagnate and his complete inability to function following the JP series.>>843799>I'd be very interested to know the nature of shane's deal with her actually. it's not just her book imo
Same, and his deal with Jeffree. I mean, just the fact that she was in the video for a few mins, and of course he linked her book in the bio….there's clearly some deal in place there. And he shills Jeffree every second he can so obviously he's getting something out of it.
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>>843980>I don't get how people can still see what Jaclynn did as bad.
I don't think people think what she did was bad, I think it's just the way she's going about presenting that info that seems kinda in bad taste. What Jaclyn did was way more helpful/necessary than what Shane did, but at the end of the day they're both using this clearly mentally ill girl as youtube content. I think other youtubers would have taken that whole situation and spun it into a "Story Time! I called the POLICE on my friend! (Not clickbait)" immediately after it happened (back in Feb?) so the fact that she didn't do that shows that this was a very real concern to her (a very low bar, but that's youtube). But then essentially doing that hours after Shane's vid does kind of make it look like she's wanting praise/credit for the situation even if what she's really trying to is let people know that Eugenia's still in very real danger. >>843832>if he really was just using her name for clout he would have made a 5 part series
I know this anon got redtexted, but I don't think isn't an unreasonable thing to say? I think Shane's just too stupid to know anything about the real details of the situation and just thought >unhealthy gorl not unhealthy anymore?? no problem, no one could be mad at that!! $$$$
Also as someone who never followed Eugenia before, I didn't know anything about the home situation/drama with her mom before the Jaclyn vid and discussion here – maybe Shane didn't either? Like obviously he should have done more research, but before Jaclyn made the video did anyone know about that whole situation? Shane just loves to stick his nose directly into drama and latch directly on to cows and then act like he's different from them because "uwu this is a documentary, i'm journalist uwu not getting involved uwu I've got nothing to do with it" when he's really the one causing the MOST drama/damage by deciding who he'll put his 20 million subscriber spotlight on next.
This anon summed it all up so well. I never followed Shane or this thread until the EC drama happened, and I watched his video before coming here, and then once I got here I watched Jaclyn's video, and it seemed to me like Shane was just naive, and didn't know. How was he supposed to know her mom is abusive
? He said in the video he hadn't even seen her in years. Not saying it wasn't exploitative, as youtube always is, but I'm sure he didn't know. But who did know, apparently, was Kati.
Right now is just a waiting game basically. See if she loses weight again. Maybe the doctors she saw enlightened her a bit, even to the abuse from her mother. Who knows. I'm assuming Shane is her "friend" right now, and he would be dumb to not notice the warning signs now that he knows her, and once he gets to know her better. He has to be aware of Jaclyn's video by now, too.
I hope them letting Shane into their house backfires on her mom, because I'm sure he experienced some questionable/shady things like when he asked about her mom being there and she was weird about it.
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Holy shit, tbh I usually enjoy Edwin's videos when he covers cows, but this ain't it chief. He obviously thinks he's being unbiased but his convo with Jaclyn is super accusatory, I'm surprised she didn't cut it off sooner. He's basically accosting her and saying "Do you have PROOF that Eugenia's mom was bad? Why do YOU get to decide that she needs help?? Did you even speak to her Mom and ask her if she was a bad person?
" like, Eugenia IS the proof, she CLEARLY needed help. Then later in the video he talks about how he tried to talk to Eugenia's close friends and she herself says she doesn't have any close friends. If looking at her wasn't enough proof for you, how about her complete isolation from society?
I get what he's trying to say with "How do we know her mom didn't have good intentions?
", but that literally doesn't matter at all? Good intent means absolutely nothing. Jim Jones poisoned 1000 people and believed he was saving them. You don't look at the pile of bodies in Jonestown and go "Yeah but do we have proof that Jim Jones had bad intentions when he did this?
Edwin my dude, we all know you lurk here. This is a very bad take. You're not playing devil's advocate, you're pushing the narrative that landed Eugenia in that alarming state of decay in the first place. Instead of challenging Jaclyn to show proof of "ill intent", why don't you show us proof that Eugenia's mom ever tried to actually help her daughter? Like, actual proof, not her brainwashed daughter promising she's fine when she clearly isn't.
I wish this screencap was fake but it's literally in the video.
>>844134>why don't you show us proof that Eugenia's mom ever tried to actually help her daughter?
this. why, has no one in this situation, ever talked to the people who are most influential (have the most influence) over her entire life? why haven’t they interviewed her mother or the driver or anyone at all? How can everyone look at this woman’s body, know how sheltered she is (lives at home, doesn’t have a job, no real close friends, very heavily monitored and regimented schedule, etc) in her nearly mid-20s, and not ask how the mother didn’t get her help? Her parents are helicopter to the extreme and assuming they were good parents, would swoop in before she could ever devolve to such a state, much less waste away for years while she paraded around on camera.
it makes me wonder why and how they’ve gone so long without being questioned. Even in the Shane video, it was really only Eugenia, and someone said that maybe their lawyer was present? Makes me think there’s legal red tape around talking to or questioning her parents about what’s going on, especially given what Jaclyn’s said.
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Edwin's getting roasted in the comments at least. Haven't seen one comment so far that supports him on this. At least there's some hope?
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David's comment on the video
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Edwin's pinned comment. >as someone who likes his receipts>provides zero receipts that Eugenia's mom ever tried to help or had good intentions in any way
Looking through the comments of this vid honestly makes me suspicious that >>843953
OP is actually Edwin, because>debunking some of jaclyn's narrative based on his conversations with EC
I've scrolled probably 100+ comments down on the youtube video and haven't seen one single comment agreeing with Edwin or supporting this video. OP appears to be the only person on the internet who agrees with Edwin.
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>>843300>he constantly inserts himself in things he knows nothing about.
He's one of the phoniest people I've ever seen. The stans comment "oh but that's just how he is", yeah, he's a phony ass.
I'm the OP and I'm not Edwin anon, this can easily be proven by mods as I'm not from US. I wasn't even necesarily agreeing with him. I meant to say attempting to debunk as I cleared up before and the rest is just my attempt at summarizing the video.
I thought the video as a whole came off as Edwin completely taking EC's word for what happened and not giving Jaclyn the benefit of the doubt on a lot of things. Ironically lacking on critical thinking on Edwin's part. Especially the taser thing makes this very clear as it makes a lot more sense they would take it out for self defense rather than to subjugate emaciated EC as Edwin implied. That's my opinion on the video as a whole if you wanted it so much but I didnt make that comment because I'm not interested in Edwin's bias or lack of critical thinking as much as I am on the new information that he gave so there you have it.
In the end neither Jaclyn nor Edwin have evidence to say if the mom is abusive
or not, they both have their own experience. Jaclyn's experience is a lot more significant and I'm not convinced the mom is innocent at all. The only thing is that I thought Jaclyn had more on the mom that she didn't wanna say in her initial video. But IF it's only the fact that she got mad about the intervention and doesn't let EC out without a driver, MAYBE she is just overprotective and that's not as big of a danger as Munchausen by proxy to her recovery. That's a big if and a maybe but we are all speculating so I think I'm entitled to entertain an unpopular theory without being Edwin.
Also Jaclyn sometimes comes off as making it about herself is a little distasteful to me. Doesn't mean she is not telling the truth but makes me question her motives more than if she didn't do that.
>>843954>this sounds like a lot of he said-she said
My thoughts exactly.>>844171
People like Edwin put bullshit like this on the internet and expect everyone (or at least a majority) will buy it.>>844201>He's being a fucking parasite making a video about a dangerous situation he's not actually involved in
Sounds like Shane Dawson. Somehow I'm not surprised
>>843790>Jaclyn is ready to share private information Eugenia shared with her for millions of people for her own benefit
You're right. Jumping through hoops to get help for your dying friend knowing you'll probably lose their friendship is so selfish. >None of these people give a shit about Eugenia and they're all using her for their own benefit
That's exactly what Eugenia's mother
was/is doing to her. Hearing Jaclyn it sounds like Eugenia's entire family was/is gaslighting her, telling her she's fine when she wasn't.
>Anyone who thinks what Jaclyn is doing is helping her is a fucking idiot.
Jaclyn was the only one that actually got Eugenia into rehab in the first place, so she actually did
help her. Unlike her selfish mother, which was the entire point of Jaclyn's video: to keep the spotlight on Eugenia's mother, where it belongs.
This is blindingly autistic.
was posted in the last thread about Eugenia's parents. Somehow he had Eugenia's parents tagged long before Jaclyn said anything about the mother or Eugenia's family.
Jaclyn said she hoped making certain info public could be helpful in the long term. And before anyone says "What's the internet going to do about it?", look up Daddy of Five then ask yourself that question again. I'm willing to bet Eugenia's parents are shitting themselves now that their at best gross negligence, is public knowledge (hence Shane's bs whitewash video).
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Hey Edwin, we all know you lurk here! I'm glad to see you are losing subscribers over this, I was hoping you would lose more, but hey, I'll take what I can get. Your video was so deluded and condescending. You climbed up on a high horse and lost the charm that attracted people to your channel. The tone, the mannerisms, the diction. Everything about your attitude in this video is downright grating. You were never even closely involved in Eugenia's life as Jaclyn, Fran and the rest were. You never got to see the things they saw as they were happening. Proof she needed help and wasn't getting it from her family? entire internet was inflamed a few months ago!She looked like a skeleton! If Jaclyn had not done what she did EC would probably be dead by now. Was it inelegant and rushed? Hell yeah! But that is why it's called a last measure. Interventions are not delicate and elegant.
I mean her (boy?)friend replied to the vid >>844174
I would honestly guess Jaclyn was too livid after seeing the vid to do so herself (rightfully so). But I think this is actually turned out in her favor since everyone is turning on Edwin, kek.>>844216>I'm the OP and I'm not Edwin anon, this can easily be proven by mods as I'm not from US.>That's my opinion on the video as a whole if you wanted it so much but I didnt make that comment because I'm not interested in Edwin's bias or lack of critical thinking as much as I am on the new information that he gave so there you have it.
Edwin or not, yikes calm down. (also heads up "not from US" doesn't mean anything because VPNs and doesn't Edwin spend a lot of time abroad anyways cuz Mina? idk)
Samefag but I also find the timeline very strange. She was off the internet for about 5-6months…. but she was only in treatment for like a month. From what I understand, a 5150 is the same as Baker Act, which is just a 3-day psychiatric hold… and she willingly chose to go to another facility to continue treatment (likely for just 30 days or so because it was said she was only in rehab for like a month)
So…. it worries me what's been going on in that gap of time.
>>844515>Just makes me think Eugenia’s mom thought Jaclyn was taking her daughter away from her because she was romantically interested in Eugenia
Or maybe Eugenia had been showing some romantic interest towards Jaclyn? Her mother being homophobic could explain why her mother is so determined to keep her isolated from everyone. Can't risk her daughter having any kind of romantic relations, especially if she wants to date girls.
I remember in one of Eugenia's older videos, she said one of the bad events from her childhood was when they had her dress up as a boy for a play, which I thought was also kind of weird. Maybe this is too tinfoil-y though.
I dont see what comes off as not calm exactly but okay.
I'm under the impression your IP doesn't change with VPN and you can tell the real location from that but I might be wrong.
Unless Edwin changed countries to self-post after posting his video, he is in US. It's the same set-up as his regular videos.
I'm really not pressed you think I'm Edwin, I tried to correct it because it's relevant.
So what I get from all of this is what I originally thought, he gives NO shits about Ec and this is just another thing for him to use for views.
I seriously doubt he cares about EC or Jac.
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>>844515>"make no mistake that Eugenia’s mom is crazy. I’ve heard the voicemails” >apparently Jaclyn has voicemails of EC’s mom calling her a “lesbian cunt” or something
EC's mom being an unhinged troglodyte doesn't surprise me. It's also not surprising to see EC defending her, but it's hard to tell if this is because her mother is STILL controlling her, forcing her to write this crap, or if it's because EC's still not ready to live in reality.
When she says things like >There’s so much positive to focus on instead
It just sounds like another Shane inspired whitewash. EC has yet to admit that Jaclyn's the one who helped get her into rehab, not her "amazing" mother.
>>844516>she may have been ivc’d until she could go to rehab.
Sorry what's "ivc’d"?>In my experience it can take a LONG time to get in treatment, especially an ED.
Based on her appearance/weight gain she's obviously had some
sort of treatment the last 6 months. What's curious is the fact that she's apparently back home with the same family that GASLIT her for years telling her she was fine, that the internet was lying to her, etc. If she was in ongoing treatment I'd think the doc or whomever would tell her not to go back to such a toxic
environment where all the "not so nice things" are swept under the fucking rug, kind of like what she's doing now.
Ivc’d is involuntarily committed; basically another term for the Baker act.
Unfortunately once someone no longer poses imminent risk to themselves or others the hospital (and other treatment providers) is required by federal law to allow them to live in the risk restrictive environment possible. EC is an adult and is considered competent by law; she’s allowed to make bad choices regarding where she lives and who she is living with. Hospitals discharge patients all the time to shitty families because that where the patients want to go.
for anyone interested, here's Blaire talking EC and the mom's lesbian comment: https://youtu.be/Nq9sBIr1uLs?t=3054
(~51 min in)
Commenter: Just want to say a Jacqueline Glenn is a damn hero for saving Eugenia Cooney's life.
Blaire: Yeah you know, I feel like Eugenia deserves credit as well because Eugenia did stick with recovery right. But people trying to take it away from Jacqueline as if she didn't play a huge role are wrong in my opinion, because Eugenia was on the brink of death. Everyone knew it, everyone thought the brink, like literally like does she have a week left, does she have a month left, day left. Like it was that bad. I don't know Eugenia, I have not met miss Eugenia but a few days after the intervention that Jacqueline had I went shopping with Jacqueline and Jacqueline showed me, she played me rather, some voicemails from Eugenia's mom. Now these voicemails have not been made public, Jacqueline has not made them public and that's up to Jacqueline she ever wants to do that. But Eugenia's mom is a psycho bitch, period. Eugenia's mom is directly responsible for keeping Eugenia in her anorexic state. Eugenia's mom was screaming at Jacqueline in a voicemail that Jacqueline is a dumb lesbian cunt or something of the sort, something about Jacqueline being a lesbian (she's not a lesbian she's dating a man) because of this intervention right. Eugenia's mom did not want the intervention to happen so Eugenia's mom is directly responsible for keeping her child in that state, make no mistake. And so I commend Jacqueline for what she did, it was very hard on Jacqueline. Jacqueline for three years has been getting hate about Eugenia and about how she's not helping right. Even I get hate, like before all this I was even getting hate being like "you're friends with Jacqueline she's friends with Eugenia have Jacqueline help"", like people hating on me and I was like, I'm so far removed from this, I don't know Eugenia, you know what I mean. So make no mistake that Eugenia's mom is crazy. I heard the voicemails and those have not been made public, I'm sure they won't be but I've heard them and I've heard what Jacqueline had to deal with. No-one should have to fight someone's family to get them help, families should be on board with helping.
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i agree Eugenia isn't really an angel
she has lied about a bunch of stuff >doc said i am healthy when she hadn't been to one in years >lying about what really happend with Jacklyn >the bs she sold to edwin etc
she is like a cult member fake and to an extent manipulative against her own interest
she is certainly hiding milk
Okay that makes sense, thanks for the information. I've seen anons say
"mods can check my ip/location for proof i'm not the cow" before on lolcow so that was partially where I got my impression indeed.>you don't know what you're talking about either way
It's almost like I already said I wasn't sure about it. Which means I know the limits of my knowledge and talk accordingly, you got me there anon.
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>>844804>I know she's a sweet girl and not really milky
So why would she need her own separate thread?
>but milk keeps flowing since Shane's video
If the original source of the milk is Shane's video, why wouldn't we talk about it in the Shane thread? All the milk flowing is in response to Shane/Shane's video. If you created a separate Eugenia thread, then you would just go there and talk about Shane's video/the drama it caused, which would make no sense….because there's a Shane thread. Even >>844876
is only 3 things, which is not enough to base an entire separate thread on.
The whole point of the Shane thread is that every time he does a series, there's an influx of milk surrounding someone for a couple of weeks, and then it dies off. What was happening in the past is we were talking about Shane in the Onision threads, the Youtube thread, the Youtube Makeup thread (Jeffree), the Tana thread (dead), the Grav3yardgirl thread (dead), the Trisha thread (dead), and the Jeffree Thread (dead). Shane himself is half of the milk in these series, but discussion of Shane/his role in the milk doesn't belong in any of those threads. Making threads for all of those cows separately makes no sense because the discussion is about Shane, and no one cares after a few weeks post-Shane, as evidence by all of those threads being dead now. If we had created a separate thread for Jake Paul to talk about the Shane doc in, it would be long dead by now too.
The same would happen with Eugenia: there would be very intense discussion of her for a few weeks, and then the thread would die off but the Shane thread would still be active because he'd have a new series out. If there's still active milk flowing a few weeks from now about Eugenia (like, actually her and not the people responding to Shane's vid) once everyone's moved on THEN a thread makes sense. If Onion harassing for years now hasn't earned her her own thread, I don't know why new people harassing her would either. Like you said, she herself isn't milky, it's really just the people surrounding her, and right now they're only surrounding her because of Shane.
i am sorry i didn't mean to come out that cruel towards her
i understand she is ill but you have to admit there is something more going on
Deefizzy talked about the Eugenia and Jaclyn situation in a long ass livestream.
Posting a reddit link because it has time stamps for when he discusses certain info. https://www.reddit.com/r/EUGENIACOONEY/comments/citfv6/what_eugenia_cooney_told_damon_fizzy_about_the/
This is some he said she said scenario. Damon hasnt' been active much on social media afaik? the last few years, it's weird he's jumping on this bandwagon, I do wonder if he is actually close to EC or not.
I feel like the whole part about her being just about to get help from her mom is just a flat out lie, idk though.
she also posted this. She doesn't really give any info but again, comments there is untrue info floating about but she doesn't want drama so literally useless Q&A (I'm not done with the video though so maybe there is something)
This is so interesting to me because I feel people with EDs are some of the most manipulative people I've ever met, they're controlled by their EDs and there's a lot of crying/begging/bargaining/etc whenever something is brought up.
It'd be interesting if EC has just been straight up lying to her friends, mother, etc in an attempt to stay sick as long as possible. I feel like people fall for the, "I'm just a nice person!" thing she has going for her and while she may be a Nice Person she was clearly able to stay sick and out of IP/didn't get IVC'd for years
Do people want to believe her mom is abusive
because they want to believe she wasn't just being enabled, or do they genuinely think her mom is abusive
because some unreliable people said so?
For me the verdict is still out, there are a lot of family members who get in deep when their child has an ED or addiction. They'd rather have their kids die loving them and giving them everything they could ever want than being iced out over forcing them into recovery.
There are so many grubby Youtube hands in the EC cookie jar right now, it really makes me raise my eyebrows to see anons jumping to declare things like fact when it's all just he-said-she-said.
sounds like you’re completely new to eugenia then because people have been speculating that her family/mom especially is abusive
for literal years
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Oh, no, don't get me wrong I don't think her mom is a good person at all. I believe the whole situation is completely fucked in an isolated dynamic and probably has some toxic
codependency shit is what I meant. >"My mom will die of a heart attack if I go into treatment">"You're kidnapping my daughter">>845631
Oh absolutely not-in fact, the first tinfoils I saw going around were that EC wasn't in treatment at all and she had died
but her Mother wanted to cover it up>>845714>Everyone is Edwin
Wow you're sure hot on the trail, detective
Does this not count as "Hi Cow"?
It's annoying as all hell
It's so ironic that Eugenia gets threatened by her mom for trying to get help, but not because she's gonna die soon.
I really wonder what she's gonna do when E's dead.
>>845856>I really wonder what she's gonna do when E's dead
She'll giddily run to collect that sweet insurance money.
I'd bet she has a hefty insurance claim planned out in case of her cash-cow's, erm, I mean daughter's death.
Hmm… could Eugenia really just die without any authorities investigating? One quick search and they'd find out that she hasn't been to a doctor and her mom never did anything to help her.
I'm sure the rehab people asked Eugenia about her home life and Jaclyn said Eugenia said, when they did the 5150 on her, that she can't go because her mom might die because of her heart…
Her mom should at least get blamed for denial of assistance. She and all those people living with them see what's going on but choose to do nothing.
Everytime police or other authorities came they must've filed reporsts. All things that could be easily verified.
But I don't know if her death would even matter. Maybe she'll be just another anorexic girl who died.
She's an adult, so the mom wouldn't be blamed. She might get some side eyes from the authorities for not getting her into treatment, but if it's deemed due to the ED, they can't blame the mom.
It's really hard to get someone 5150'd unless they try to kill themselves.
Cause of death is rarely listed as an ED but the actual event, say, heart failure. No-one would be blamed.
Which is why I think getting Adult protective Services involved now is a solid idea by Jaclyn.
Anyone else been trying to follow this publicity circus? (Trying being the key word) I'm not even mad at Jake and Tana getting together, real or not. It makes perfect sense. But kek at it being less than a year since Shane made an entire series about how Erika was the best thing to ever happen to Jake and he ended up "married" to another Shane shitshow 9 months later.>>846226
Boy, you know it must be dire straits if RICHIE has to make a video agreeing with Jaclyn. ot but was surprised to see him have tour dates at the beginning of his video. Do people actually still like him? I thought his career was pretty much dead and buried after Jaclyn.
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Edwin somehow gained 62+ followers after hiding away from social media because of the backlash from his EC video. Something smells fishy.
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I can't get over how similar a dynamic they have. Given Eugenia's aversion to conflict I'm 100% certain the mother has wild temper tantrums just like Dee Dee did
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yeah the whole thing is fake
Sorry but no, her mother absolutely lost her shit when Eugenia got 51-50'd, any sane, loving mother would have had a big sigh of relief and said "you'll be okay sweetie, it's what's best for you, I'll visit you".
Instead, she called Jaclyn a fucking bitch, called the police on Jaclyn when it was actually the professional mental health workers that decided to take her in, so she called authorities on authorities, and Eugenia was dead set convinced her mother would die due to a weak heart if she got help? That's not normal, that's far beyond normal.
That's some Gypsie rose typa mess.
I feel like she wants Eugenia kept in the state she's in, not only that but Eugenias in her mid 20's and still hasn't had a relationship or has a life of her own and stuck in this state of a child's mind.
Red flags everywhere honestly it's not normal.
trog Nmoms can be easily spotted by their the same dead eye smile and strange rehearsed speech patterns
stackable bonus points rewarded for having an autistic/sick/indigo/pagaent child
Between ec and her brother, the Nmom rating is off the charts
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y’all…really think that’s her pussy…. is she shayna
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The idea of that is scary, but GR definitely was a puppet from the start and straight-up lost her teeth because of the Munchie by proxy sitch from meds her mother insisted she go on. It's hard to say if there's any puppeteering of EC going on but at face value…it looks like for the most part EC just did whatever she wanted.
Dee Dee had the spotlight, I think that's the difference there. If anything maybe EC's mom was mad because she couldn't eat for two anymore.
"Don't worry Eugenia dear, Momma will finish your pizza"
I feel like the dynamic is more Toddlers in Tiaras or something.
There's a huge possibility the mother was abusive
and manipulative, but there is an equal chance that while her mother was isolating her EC was feeding everyone different stories about how fine she was. A high-stress situation involving police and if EC was crying to Mom about being committed I could see how the inappropriate behavior/reaction to yelling at JG happened. No excuse for it, just don't see it as a completely out of nature freak out for a mother to have in that type of situation.
Regardless, her mother watched her daughter fading away and did nothing. She watched her dying and whether she was isolating and gaslighting her or not she was blatantly avoiding any intervention to stop her daughter from dying-and I think that's the only thing that can be really said with absolute fact no matter her excuse for it.
It's neglect, plain and simple. If EC wasn't in her 20s and instead was not eating as a child or a preteen there would be no excuse for allowing it to happen just to avoid a kid's lying, bargaining, or emotional backlash. I feel like the same stigma should have phased her (the mom) despite EC's age.
While I do think her mom saying she's "Okay" was more about reassuring EC she wasn't going to drop dead (which she wouldn't know since she didn't have any medical advice on the matter and it was a real possibility for people even in early stages of their EDs) it doesn't paint her mom in a better light.
I do think her dad was just making an idiot dad comment about saying she didn't look a day over 14 though, dads say that shit all the time because they think they're funny. She also has been dressing like an emo sceney-bopper for ?? how long now?
Either way, I wouldn't call them a normal or healthy family by any means. Gotta say the lack of info is creating a Marina Joyce frenzy at times, ngl.
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Someone on the EC subreddit posted a screenshot of her legs during a recent livestream (she apparently freaked out after realizing they were showing on screen) and they're still scary thin: https://www.reddit.com/r/EUGENIACOONEY/comments/cn44bf/why_did_eugenia_freak_out_when_she_realized_her/
Also Edwin privated his EC video: >>843953
and Damon apparently deleted his livestream talking about her >>845265
While they're still scary thin, they are nowhere near as emaciated as they were back in February, her legs were literally purple and bone back then.
Shes very self conscious right now I've noticed, wearing jackets, not showing her legs, it's very normal for someone who's in recovery to act this way because gaining weight is scary/unusual for them and takes getting used too.
She's still thin, but she does look so much better than before. I was quite amazed to see her show her breakfast in her last video and to see her sip juice, I'm surprised the internet didn't break over that.
fuck off you male specimen
stop basing your knowledge on what vaginas look like from porn
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So Trish is now doing porn? Though I don't think anyone is too surprised she would stoop this low, I'm curious what this current cry for attention is forhttps://twitter.com/trishapaytas/status/1162142876446232576?s=19
She's been doing porn for a long time now. Even while dating Jason. No wonder he didn't respect her, girl has zero dignity.
Her fans always are pissed at her posting nudes to their feed, but she just doesn't stop.
everyone hates onision but he is the one that first really spoke out about eugenia. he made her and her fans answer queestions. i think thats why shane did a eugennia doc to stick it to onision. cause as someone who worked in a gym and had weight problems shane knows that eugenia is on the edge of death. she would be dead if not for her lifestyle.
I also wonder this constantly as someone who’s spent years watching onion man scream into the void to try to get Shane Dawson’s attention. If so, it was very sly and gave Shane a way to take the credit away for EC’s recovery so onion couldn’t stake his claim to being “the man who was right about Eugenia and told the truth so hard that she decided not to be anorexic”
sage bc this isn’t an onion thread but the dynamic in this video had me asking a lot of questions about their relationship since it’s been radio silence from Shane for so many years
no, thats fabric but she has been banned for nudity on multiple sites. some is on purpose but she is so thin that her clothes would slide at weird angles. she was so out of it one time that she didnt even realize she was flashing her bra. some time ago eugenia was so frail she got tired while doing her hair. the curling iron seemed to be too much. she then started using it wrong and the mom couldnt figure it out either. >>843613
I thought the mom was overwhelmed but the more i watched the more i think that the mom cant keep friends so she has made eugenia her friend/caretaker/scapegoat.
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Any last minute predictions?
I predict Shane still won't shower & his mouth area will still look white and gross, Jeffree will look like 90 year old woman/man, Nate will be dead inside, Ryland will look like an 45-year-old soccer dad & they'll sit around shit-talking an asshole boy in his early 20's.>>872397
, by the way, this is the best way to describe it, because this will be what it is, but people will lap it up. My only hope is that they bring up James Charles and people finally realize how fucked up Shane and Jeffree are. Maybe James might be on & they'll phonly make up, then everyone will say fuck these three weirdos.
All I have to say is Shane has really let himself and his content go. IN my eyes he's nothing but a perverted weirdo who does these half baked documentaries.
How can Shane love make up when he doesn't even shower?
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Wow, those pictures definitely have me at the edge of my seat and I can't wait for his videos.
Jeffree- "I bullied a dude's brother, accused James of molesting someone, said he was a danger to society AND I have receipts but I won't post them! But also feel bad for me…"
Shane- "I'm a gross depressed pervert who looks up to a ugly old ladyman! I'm getting married to someone I can't even hide I don't like and I look up to Jeffree because he's richer than me and has a trained idiot boyfriend!"
So a bunch of rich gay dudes whining about all the drama and bullshit in their lives (that they cause), whilst starting drama and being assholes?
Oh and makeup is whats going to magically make Shane confident? lose weight and shower even though we SEE THAT HIS ASS HASN'T changed one fucking bit?
what bullshit, I truly hope people don't fall for this sad story.
Nate don't ever marry this fool! The money isn't worth it, just start saving the expenisve shit he gives you and plan your getaway.
James Charles would love to have you.
okay I was absolutely taken aback by how bad of a trailer this is.
I'm a production artist so I'm gonna sperg.
a trailer is meant to tease a certain portion of a film or series or give an idea about what happens.
There are no compelling stills. There are just the same 2 shots over and over again: shane looking concerned, someone crying or laughing. God, andrew doesn't even frame the shots well. PULL IN! Fill the frame. I can't believe he thinks he's a camera person.
And beyond that, what content is there? sad stories? Didn't we already get that. How much can you bleed your own (real, but explained so many times it seems constructed) tragedy dry?
The only shot of the entire trailer I even found the least bit interesting was J* in the car and the fans screaming.
Also where's Nate? Why are there 100 shots of shane looking exactly the same? How self-centered. You're making a documentary (so called) and you're in it almost more than your subjects?
4:20 long was clever. I don't mind that. drop in the bucket.
And this is gonna be NINE episodes? Of repetitive melodrama?
Dude owns multiple lucrative businesses. And all you have is tragedy and heavyhanded emotion tempered by nothing lighthearted (again?). What a waste.
Nate is nothing but a purse for Jeffree, I'm sure we'll see him sitting somewhere looking crispy & depressed.
It really pisses me off that Jeffree Star is still a thing, like seriously. If a woman did what Jeffree did to James that bitch would be thrown UNDER the cancel jail.
It's so gross and I hope them mentioning James Charles causes everyone to lose their shit, but seem like people love Shane's shit stained drawers and don't care if he's friends with assholes.
Because they are. Think of all the fucked up shit both Jeffree & Shane have done that no one gives a fuck about or question?
They literally had Jeff's paid shill Rich Luxe in the video.
They'll tell sad stories and then shill their overpriced collabs to get their teen fanbase to spend their Mc Donald's check lining their pockets.
What an unattractive cast of characters as well.
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A quick reminder that Shane is gross as fuck, Drew was 16 when Shane made this tweet towards him Shane was 24.
May I add that Drew was underaged huge fan of Shane that Shane brought into his fold.
he's also made Jokes about Miley Cyrus's pussy when she was 16. Saying "Fresher than Miley's vagina"
Doesn't matter what these two do or say, they get passes because, "ha ha funny gay man, relatable ha ha ha, he stinky"
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Checking up on the top trending on twitter with all the impeachment talk going on, and Shane’s down at 12. Hasn’t he been like, pretty high up on previous “documentary” release days? Or did I imagine that?
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I found this on twitter and I almost broke my eye sockets rolling them.
Because that's what's gonna happen.
Shane and Jeffree are both untouchable. No matter what either of them does (they had A LOT of scandals) nothing will happen to them.
They can do whatever they wan. Their, now mixed, fan bases fight their battles and youtube would never think about not promoting or even demonetizing them.
No company or influencer is going to mess with either of them cause their fanbase is massive
Youtube is a shithole and people like Jeffree and Shane are one of the reasons why.
Wait where did I say it was "proof" of? I mean it's proof he's gross and perverted (as he is in the present) but I know Shane's not going to get heat for THIS or anything that he does unless it's something huge.
He's just an asshole, so it's not a surprise he'd be friends with another asshole (Jeffree, Tana, Rich Luxe etc.)
but I'm not saying it's "proof' he's a sexual predator. It's just another thing people let slide and don't care about because it's Shane Dawson.
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this shit is fugly
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It is, but their stupid fans will happily spend $30 on this, or whatever his re-packaged china mirrors cost.
His whole entire line with Shane we'll be crap, but their fans are gonna buy everything because it's ~~Jeffree x Shane~~
Pic attached is probably what their collab theme will be. Pigs and conspiracys… who could've guessed /s
I brought some of Jeffree's make up before I was aware what a shit he was. It wasn't that good. I've had better Rite Aid's make up being honest.
I NEVER liked Shane. Didn't he break up with his girlfriend via video when he came out "bisexual?"
His stank dirty ass, thinks being stank, dirty and depressed is a personality.
I'm sick of him, his weird looking old boyfriend and Jeffree's ugly ass.
It's sad that Shane's a grown man, looking up to another depressed, fake grown man because he has money.
Jeffree is clearly unhappy as hell with his life, so I know all Shane see's in Jeffree & the beauty industry is easy money.
I'll never support Jeffree again, he seems to hate women, but wants to run around attempting to look like one or referring to himself as one, even though he looks like Mr.Burns in a wig. He's just a fucking creep, who like James thinks wearing women's clothing makes him "Special" or something.
I also get vibes that Jeffree is abusive
as hell to Nate.
And Shane doesn't even wear or like Makeup. This is all for money, not some passion project.Make up or this Doc didn't change Shane. Shane is still putting on pounds, not showering, depressed as hell and not happy current day.
Why would I buy make up from someone who pees in bottles, doesn't shower and says he stinks? Let alone doesn't even WEAR makeup.
I might as well buy Make up from Boogie2988.
I thought I was alone in being disapointed with the quality of JS makeup. Usually, I find the look and layout of his palettes so offputting and ugly, but I recently paid $80 AUD (!!!!) for the Jawbreaker palette because it has a bunch of shades that I don't have in my collection and I have only ever heard people absolutely RAVE about his stuff. It's pure chalk and refuses to cling to the eye. The pastel green shade is especially bad and I ended up using a Colourpop shade instead that perfomed beautifully.
How tf has he gained this reputation as some kind of cosmetic messiah?
Yep. His palettes suck. They're patchy and don't last long at all. After a few hours they always crease and mix into each other.
His highlighters are a joke. I think they're chalky and the only good use for them is as eyeshadow.
His lipsticks are ok but I've had a bunch that came broken and dried out.
I don't support him anymore cause he's a fucking cunt to everyone.
But I think it's hilarious how high he thinks of himself. His makeup is way too overpriced. No one outside of youtube knows him, I don't know a single person irl that knows him lmao, but he still thinks he's high end and worty those ridiculous prices. >>873319
I do too. I liked him when he did spooky videos with Drew and Garret. But ever since he decided to film "documentaries" in which he proves that he can't do any research I'm done with him. The worst thing that happened to him was Jeffree. Shane's acting exactly like him. He thinks he's untouchable and can do anything. He also became a total bitch who's attacking his own fans if they dare to criticize him, just like his diaper-assed, skeletal idol Jeffree.
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They claim all they do is weed, but do you honestly think Nate isn't high 24/7 to deal with shit like this?
Nate has zero control over whatever happens in his life. I would not doubt that he's popping pills or self medicating to deal with having to be around, fuck and fuck other people with jeffree.
I don't feel bad for Nate, he's made a living being an paid boyfriend and he's stuck with Jeffree unless he wants his whole family to go down with him.
Nate has to be a shitty person to be with Jeffree, but I know the money is worth it.
Nope. When J first came out I was into the hype and got Unicorn Blood and the black lipstick and they were pretty nice. I bought some another few quite some time ago I could really see the difference in the quality. I heard it's downhill ever since. I stopped supporting him before the eyeshadows and high lighters thankfully. Those were fucking disasters. It really is better to spend an extra 8 bucks and go full designer like Dior, etc, if you're already paying J
prices for chalk.
ppl where saying the threesome was with a lady…yuck. Doubt Jeffree did more the watch.
Jeff claims to be Bisexual but i seriously doubt it. I bet hes a corpse in bed yuck
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wonder if this is about James?
I feel like i'm living in opposite world right now , to see so many people ( somewhat sensible people) applauding this shit is really fucking with me. In a world where people can get "Cancelled" because they said some dumb shit when they were 10, we have an man who freshly just did some shit, with another man whose whining about not being as rich as his asshole friends.
To watch someone with more money then his audience complain about not being rich enough was so fucking tone deaf, and everyone's sucking his small dick. Not one person calling it out.
And don't get me started on Jeffree just being there.
"I'm so poor, depressed and fat, Jeffree is so rich, skinny and glamous, hey young adults/teens who watch me, give me the money you made working at walmart! Feel bad for me!"
I can't wait for the same people who called Jeffree out during the drama to be sucking him off about this doc.
No way it was with a woman if that's what his nails look like. Unless it was really Nate and a woman and Jeffree sitting on the end of the bed scrolling through Twitter or something. His boyfriend is straight after all!!>>874948>>874949
Well, didn't they just go through a pretty rough time with their dad dying not that long ago? Could be mental health related. But if it's James related, my guess would be:>Jeffree egging them on to publicly call out James (the way he did with Tati, because then his hands aren't the dirty ones)>Shane giving them a platform and pretending to be impartial but clearly supporting the side Jeffree is telling him to support (the same way Shane just suddenly started using Tati's vitamins and tweeting about them during Dramageddon 2.0)>Jeffree "no more drama uwu" Star comes out swinging again with accusations against James, calls him a predator with no receipts other than the coerced confessions of the two young straight boys he's been grooming>Shane goes :/// I hate drama u guise and continues to be the one generating it>>875362
If anyone could give a summary that would be rad. I don't really want to give them the view and also I don't know if I'll be able to watch it if my eyes are permanently rolled the entire time
I've read some places they only have threesomes with women, but I think you are right. Jeffree is on the phone and/or making sure nathan doesn't have too much fun.
I think Jeffree just gives his loose arse to whoever he can pay to fuck him and Nate has to ask and be watched.
I haven't even watched the doc, but all I've seen is shane is poorer then other youtubers, he sucks Jeffree's dick, Ryland looks bored and jealous, Shane treats Jeffree better then his own boyfriend.
Jeffree's rich and Shane is poor, Jeffree says dumb shit and open mouth shane.
Hopefully someone brave watched it all.
apparently I played the whole thing but it was so hard to pay attention to it just felt like one long drawn out hype train for the rest of the series with no real new information
but I zoned out so hard lmao sage for no milk but this counts as a review I guess
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tldr version of that hour-long shit show was when J* was launching some shit at Morphe, and him announcing that him and Shane were working on something(so old info and didnt need to be a fucking hour-long one ten minute video would have been fine.) 2nd video is supposed to be on the actual makeup and how its made(which seems interesting, unless its gonna be like 5 minutes of bts and the rest is dumb fucking filler).
Shane looks so smug and emasculated, yuck
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You forgot to mention the long, drawn out shots of Shane with his ~private jet~ anxiety and pretending to be Jeffree's super broke poor relatable hobo friend tagging along. The actual content of this video wouldn't have been good in a 15 minute vlog- and this is coming from someone who looks forward to Shane content as a guilty pleasure.
Also every shot of Shane and Ryland interacting feels so uncomfortable, they always look like they don't want to touch each other.
I just read someone telling people on Reddit that they couldn't complain about rich people because they "Worked Hard" and we are just jealous.
My favorite is, "People are hating on Jeffree for no reason" lol.
The excuse people pull out their ass for Shane and Jeffree. This is why I hate these fake as "docs", it turns into people making excuses for shit they normally wouldn't.
I bet these same ppls are on the Kardashians neck for every little thing they do but these two gay dudes? Both with a shit ton of controversy? Shane whining about not being rich enough? Jeffree just all the shit he's done?
They are eating it up.
This whole thing is about Shane not feeling rich enough and wanting to sell cheap shit at an high price with his evil ugly friend Jeffree.
I don't care HOW you slice it, watching someone worth 12 million, whining about not being as rich as other people, acting like a idiot around Jeffree and his "Wealthy" lifestyle, is some bullshit.
Laughing crying at all the blur on the thumbnail trying to make Shane not crusty and Jef human.
Also 9 parts? Each for an hour? Who in their right mind would watch that? Does anyone care about that petty celeb drama shit THAT much?
This. Every time I see that face I get the same reaction, he did it in his conspiritard videos too.>>873319>a 30 something year old grown ass man who pees in his car still and picks at his chin hairs is selling makeup to teenage girls. Kill me please
Thanks for the keks anon lmao. But seriously the whole thing is such a blatant money grab for both Shane and Jeffree they might as well rename the pallette "$ucker$"
And he needs to stop calling these videos documentaries - the crap he produces is more like a reality TV series, and I might be able to enjoy that if he didn't take himself so seriously and white knight for all these rich weirdos.
Idubbbz went to visit AirSoftFatty's broke ass in buttfuck Michigan, went inside his dilapated house littered with cat piss and shit and still came out with a way more entertaining video than any of Shane's drivel. Not that Idubbbz isnt a cow, but if that retard can do it what is Shane's excuse?
Man I truly wish a bitch would do and say HALF the shit these two do, like Trisha gets videos made about her for being gross as shit and bad, but Shane because he's an gay white male & for some reason youtubers adore him, makes it #relatable to be gross as fuck and bad.
It's not. It's fucking offensive as hell to me. Then his boyfriend and him have ZERO chemistry, I'll say i've seen Nate seem more into Jeffree (probably because he's thinking of the next skateboard he's going to have to suck Jeffree's dick to get) then I've seen with Ryland and Shane.
Shane & Jeffree both treat eachother better then their spouses and that aint saying much, because their friendship is business, so instead of like Nate & Ryland who SPEND their money, they are making it.
Plus to Jeffree getting verbally sucked off is worth more then any money in the world, to him.
I feel like Ryland, in the beginning, was okay with the way Shane lived and handled money, then Shane started getting fat, stank and he didn't live as lavishly.
I feel seeing the way Jeffree lives has made Ryland look at his life differently.I remember Jeffree asking I think Ryland in the first Series, did he have a "card" or something like, "you don't have a card?"
I feel the moment Jeffree came in their life and started to floss & show Ryland that sense of wealth, their relationship hasn't been the same.
When they sell this cheap collab (that people are already defending) I'm sure that Shane will have more money and that'll keep Ryland happy for a bit, but Ryland will never be Nate.
And I feel Shane's tolerance for Ryland is really low.
I think even Shane knows that unlike Jeffree he can clean up and pull someone who may naturally just be into him.
I feel Jeffree gave up a LONG time ago wanting a real spouse that is equal to him. His world is so super controlled.
People are like kittens with a toy with these dudes. They do something messsed up and everyone's like, "Cancel x,y and z!!"
but then, "Jeffree is launching makeup! Shane is getting married! Jeffree donates to a charity the DAY BEFORE he launches a shitty collab! James has his ass out! Ooh I look at that!"
It's not even like these people are super smart at PR,It's basic tactics people in the media do, but usually, people don't fall for it for long.
Like every time Kanye acts a fool seems like Kim is having another baby. However, Kim's a woman so of course, she's going to get hers and then some.
Watching the Doc we can see that Shane And Ryland aren't ready for marriage.
This was purely done to throw people off the scent.
Shane is just someone who needs to be with someone. He gets with "hot" men (who quickly start to degrade the minute they are with him) and then puts little to no effort into the relationship in my opinion.
That relationship with his last girlfriend was toxic
but I actually felt like he tried. Ryland is like Nate, except he's attention hungry imo.
In fact, now that I think about it, Shane has always been fucked up in relationships. Ryland sucks ass don't get me wrong but Shane didn't get with him because he wanted something real, they both are in it for the wrong reasons.
Just like Jeffree and his pet.
It's business. The only real things about it is,the hard on they both have for Jeffree's money and wanting to get like him, how Ryland & Shane aren't meant for eachother, how insecure and fucked up Jeffree is.
I'm positive Shane's going to floss hard when the money comes in from the collab.
Then dumb asses are going to be like, "Look at poor shane! finally getting what he deserves!"
Either way, the amount of people I've seen sticking up Jeff (in the weirdest places to) shows how putting problematic
people on your platform and giving them a scrub is the best PR, if you are well liked. Even Kim K, backtracked with Jeff's ass.
People love Shane, he can do no wrong, so if he keeps having jeffree on that love goes to Jeffree too.
Plus there are people out there who really love Jeffree anyway. Women at that. As I said before if Jeffree wasn't a gay cross-dressing male, I'm positive he'd be called the abuser that he is by more people.
It seems like people don't take people like Jeffree or James seriously, they look at them like clowns, even their drama was handled by people outside the beauty industry in a somewhat silly tone even if there were serious accusations.
Jeffrees not some Disney villain, but he's not a good person and I'm sure Shane knows that but wants money.
(plus shane isn't that great either)
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I was trying to capture that moment where Shane is bitching about people calling him out for his "I'm so poor" shit and this is what the captions said. I feel like this translated what Shane was really trying to say.
But beyond that autism I wanted to capture this moment because I feel like this is what it's all about: he defends himself by comparing himself to J and basically saying "Yeah I'm rich but Im not JEFFREE rich". The fuck? It doesn't matter if you don't make as MUCH as him - the point is you have coin and you're not fucking poor. But truthfully you DO want to make as much J, you just can't be honest about it or you might risk your "relatable" card.
I agree- it seems like their relationship went sour after Shane got closer to Jeffree. Part of it is his SHANE IS MY BFF thing, Ryland realizing he bet on the wrong horse in his materialistic race…
But I also think it's mutual. A lot of people used JStar for money and I bet he could see it in Ryland. I mean, how fucking entitled was he when Shane got more presents from Jeffree? It's not like he was collabing with him, what did he expect? Should've been glad he got something, because it's not an obligation to buy pricey gifts for your friend's boyfriend, lol. Jeffree must have smelled the desperation. Another thing is… I don't know why, but twinks/feminine gay dudes usually get competitive for the queen bee spot and I feel like that's going on too. Which sucks for Ryland, because he has no interest in J Star as a person, but he's hopelessly in love with his money and lifestyle. They would be even less compatible than him and Shane. >>875674
I kind of thought that moment was cute.
Tinfoil: If by any chance R and Sh won't last, I wonder if Ryland will be exposed by Shane… or better yet Jeffree. He's not above inserting himself into drama that has little to do with him (ignoring the fact he makes R both jealous and envious). If Shane was a little more hygienic, I could see him being invited for a threesome, but since that's not the case… Maybe he'd play matchmaker? Control his life a bit by finding him a much cuter accessory boyfriend? Ok, my thoughts are getting to wild, I'm done.
I think you may be onto something, also a good point in Jeffree knowing users. Thing is though, Jeffree likes being used, in fact he welcomes it because he's controlling and very power-hungry.
He has a lot of money and that equals power that he once didn't have. I remember Jeffree talking about how he was men's secret (or the "stright aka bisexual or downlow men he went for) and he always talks about when he didn't have control. When people didn't want him. Now he can just buy that.
Shane probably thinks getting richer will give him that power and also clean up his life.
It won't. Jeffree doesn't want people he buys to love him truly, he wants you to make him look good, be pretty, maybe have sex with him but thats it. He basically wants someone to act with him and for him.
I feel Shane wants to be able to control his life like Jeffree with money but also build true blue relationships.
I think Ryland or Jeffree don't like each other because like you said, they both love being the queen of their castle. We all know Jeffree wants to be the queen of OTHER people's castles as well.
Jeffree is using Shane, whose using Jeffree and depression, whose being used by Ryland who wants to use Jeffree and it's all a bunch of money hungry losers jerking eachother off at the end of the day.
I can talk all day, about this dynamic not even because it's all that interesting, it's just so smack dab in your face.
It feels good to come somewhere where's it's not, people praising these weirdos.
From what I remember, Shane just stopped trying and presumably started cheating on Lisa with men? Then he broke up with her through video where he cries how he's bisexual.
He always seemed like a depressed emotional manipulator to me.
exactly. I've been learning more and more people love insecure assholes who act like they are secure as fuck.
It's only weak people who fall for the act. Jeffree isn't this strong force of nature. He's a confused somewhat self hating gay, woman-hating man who gave up on real relationships a long time ago. Jeffree lives his life to floss on people who did and didn't hurt him. A reject Kardashian, bootleg Paris Hilton. He tries to one-up all women and every feminine gay he doesn't want to bang.
He's lonely as hell. He's insecure about himself, he's insecure about his relationship (hence him always having to explain it, always talking about how he and Nate have SO much sex) and he has zero use for a twink he doesn't want to fuck and who won't help him out (Ryland).
Shane is just the type of bitch that Jeffree loves, except he knows unlike James or Manny, he can't just run over Shane when it's all over. So he's just going to use him, spit his stank ass out and move on.>>875875
I read on guru gossip that Shane broke up with his ex in his coming out video. I also saw he made some "Jokes" about wanting to harm her. In my opinion, Shane's a perv and he's addicted to porn and just gross shit.
Unlike Jeffree though, I DO feel like Shane's actually is bisexual, I think he got addicted to gay sex because he wanted that next sexual "high" and he found gay sex kinky.
Then he got more and more depressed, when the baby and cats jokes came out, he was like, "Fuck it" and proposed to Ryland, not because he loved him, but to throw people off the scent.
I would not be surprised if Ryland & Shane broke up, and Ry exposed Shane for something fucked up, sexually and mentally.
Because as we can tell, Shane doesn't have control over Ryland like he wants. I think thats ALSO why Jeffree dislikes Ryland, he's a somewhat more lively Nate and doesn't play the part.
I TRULY feel like Jeffree feels like boyfriends, should sitdown, be in the corner and do what the person with the most money in the relationship says. Be seen but not heard.
Tl:Dr- Ryland is a gold digger twink, who doesn't like Jeffree because he's a faux secure rich dude, who doesn't want to shower him with gifts because Ryland is useless to Jeffree. Shane is an asshole who treats his spouses like shit and I feel like Ryland was a situation that just went too far.
Similar to how I feel Nate would never had done more than smash & Dash Jeffree, had Jeffree not snagged him, took care of him and became immediately rich afterward (and took care of Nates family, cementing Nate's Kept status). Shane is getting what he deserves in Ryland AND Jeffree, for what he did to his ex.
Jeffree's going to get his because he can't stay out of trouble and he's super fake, people see it, but they don't take him seriously other than another queen, to gawk at.
Ryland needs to start making a plan. Nate doesn't seem to have one, I'm not sure if nate has any businesses or has made any plans outside of Jeffree. Shanes going to drop Ryland soon.
WTF? Really?I really don't know why Shane was even with her tbh, it was obvious that whatever he was, wasn't straight.
He's always acted like a fucking fem gay.
I've just looked up that they had sex, that he was claiming she was his first. He also claims him being bisexual wasn't the reason AND he never cheated, this was from an interview I read, so either someone at GG is stretching the truth about him cheating, him breaking up with her on camera (because it said they'd broken up a good 3 months before the coming out video) and then not having sex, because he said their sex life was fine.
I think the only thing she didn't know was that he bisexual. Either way, she got the best years of Shane & i feel like he was depressed as shit then, but not the mega depressed sack of shit he is now.
Maybe there's something else I'm missing?
I think the "I'm a virgin" thing was a channel gag, she's always very wink wink about it like in this video at 3:20.
That said I always assumed the bisexual thing was just Shane being afraid to wholly commit to the gay label. And his relationship with Ryland always struck me as weird because they're both lispy femme gays.
True, some men say they are "bisexual" because they may not be comfortable with being gay. Most of the bisexual men, I've seen usually end up with a man.
Also, some men will call themselves bisexual because they are still attracted to women, but don't see themself with a woman. I feel like Shane felt he was bisexual because he's attracted to women but after lisa he just decided to go straight male and explore that side.
Can't say it's working out because look what he found?
You all make greats points. I do agree with >>875939
the most. This happens a lot, there are truly bisexual men and women, who date the opposite sex, may be too effeminate or too masculine and feel somewhat boxed into who goes for them more.
I don't feel Shane was struggling with being gay, I think he was struggling with the fact that it'd be easier for him, to be either straight or gay, not in this weird space in-between. Shane had no issue with doing gay things as "jokes" and gags before he came out.
A lot of bisexual people deal with this. If you aren't a masculine man or a feminine woman, sometimes it's hard to find the opposite sex that'll be attracted to you, so you go for what goes for you more.
Also, doesn't Shane LOVE straight porn? I remember him saying he only watches straight porn. I feel like I could see Shane with a woman once he dumps Ryland again. Mostly, because he's rich and his pool of women "wanting" to date him is WAY more possible because of his youtube fame, then the average bisexual man.
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Nate isn't actually gay and it has stated this over and over.
he asks jeffree to fly out women to have sex with, I guess sometimes Jeffree gets involved too but for the most part it is just Nate fucking other women.
kinda further proves the point that he's only with Jeffree for all the money. Jeffree even bought Nate's family a house. could you imagine what would happen to them if Nate ever broke up with jeffree?
on a side note, I can't help but notice that Shane's camera man Andrew has SO much more chemistry with shane than ryland does.
I rag on Ryland a lot, but Shane needs to get his shit together, yes we know Ryland is attention-hungry, gold-digging, some of the reasons he got with Shane was because he's Shane Dawson, but thats why he 's staying with him at this point, not because he wants this slob, but because he's Shane Dawson & he's about to get some beauty bucks.
Shane is depressed, gaining weight, not showering, dismissive ass hell to Ryland, disinterested and he treats Jeffree better then he does his soon to be husband.
If they do last, Shane will have to change as well as Ryland, but doubly so. One day Rylands going to get sick of being with someone who can't even wash and thinks depression and stink is a personality.
but then again, the perks of staying are better than leaving, when it comes to finances for Ryland.
That seems like such a sad life, even if he is richer than god. Paying your favourite one night stand to play your boyfriend while you fly out girls to keep him satisfied. Funny how J pretends to be untouchable when he's so vulnerable in his personal life.
Speaking of, I watched a video of his recently where he said something like "[makeup product] squirted more than the last girl I had a threesome with" and for the life of me I cannot picture him being in a 10 mile radius of a naked woman, let alone in a sexual context. Does he just watch Nate bang women from a corner and call it a threesome?
I wish you spoilered this, yuck.
Imagine thinking you are the baddest bitch and boss, but you have a boyfriend, thats dead as hell inside, always self medicating with weed and lord knows what the fuck else, that you feel like it's a "present" for him, to bring him women (because we know Jeffree isn't bisexual) every so often, because you know he's not naturally into you AND he's only a fetish to you. I was the one who said I've heard they only have threesomes with women. Jeffree has also said they have threesomes when they are "out of town to not complicate thing".
Which to me means, Jeffree watches Nate fuck women or is in the house or whatever, He's not getting involved. I feel Jeffree can screw whoever he wants, we all see how he comes on to every man he's around, rather he wants them or not. This isn't a bad bitch move, it's someone whose so insecure that they'd rather stay in a relationship with someone who they can fully control and not have to worry about.
People were saying Jeffree wants Shane. Nah, because once the "Wow Jeffree you so rich" shit wears off, Jeffree will get tired of another queen wanting to share the shine. Shane's also has a brain and something to offer. Jeffree plucked nate up from where he was and gave him more then what he had, then when he got rich, he gave him & his family everything to keep nate stuck.
Jeffree is sad, so is Nate, when has Nate ever been on camera not high? Even if Nate does get away from Jeffree with something, Jeffree will replace him with another "straight" bland hot dude. Jeffree dresses Nate, dyes his hair all those crazy colors, even said that he's a "fixer' in relationships, he likes to change people into what he wants.
Nates the perfect blank slate. It's not #goals it's sad. We see how Jeffree throws money and purses at people who he wants to like him and the worst thing? Nate looks gayer by the second with the way he's dressed. I sometimes think Jeffree doesn't see that Nate is just an yes man, who will do whatever he can, to stay rich, smoke weed (and whatever else drugs) and just live a comfortable life.
I sometimes feel Jeffree doesn't see how unequal it is from the very start and how there's no way, there's true love from neither, it's all about what they do for eachother.
Not just you anon, but others are so harsh on Ryland lol. I was a fna of Ryland before him and Shane got together, when he lived with Drew (the girl, not guy). Ryland is gay and effeminate, and his face during the gucci gifting was funny, but I truly do think Ryland and Shane got together organically.
Shane was friends with Lily from Clevver, and Ryland, drew and lily all worked together. They had that mutual connection and then they matched each other on tinder or bumble.
There's also that video Ryland did with his ex boyfriend and it was a normal relationship. The guy was normal and nice and it obviously wasn't a Ryland gold digging situation.
This is not Rylands first gay relationship but I'm certain it is Shane's. Shane has decided that cause they're two guys together he can be a disgusting pig with no limits. He was already disgusting with Lisa and it use to make me cringe thinking I'd hate if my bf got on like that. Shane has let himself go with Ryland. I also tinfoil there's something between Shane and the camera guy because I swear Shane has more chemistry with him and flirts with him.
I understand why Ryland was pissed. He got invited on a lavish trip, with a private jet and then got told an hour beforehand he's not going cause of weight restrictions lol. Ryland worked on a celebrity centred channel, him and his family are not californian natives and grew up normal. His sister is normal and their videos together they're far more relatable than Shane's im so poor shit humour. A private jet would have been exciting for Ryland and he was upset. Shane was filming and joking around with his crush Andrew before leaving so Ryland was outside with the dogs keeping busy I believe to not cause a scene. There really was no need for Shane to put those clips in his video unless he wants this narrative discussed. He even kept joking to Andrew in front of Ryland sarcastically "oh I'm going to miss this" cause Ryland wasn't sucking his dick. I'm sure it's annoying enough for Ryland that Shane's cameraman essentially lives with them after it was Ryland that told Morgan to move out cause he wanted to get serious with his boyfriend.
I truly believe Ryland is the normal one and does try. There's been a lot of videos in which Ryland laments that Shane hates dates or doing fucking anything. Even on Rylands channel his latest video is him cooking for his boyfriend, yet Andrew is there and takes most of Shane's attention.
Shane may be og on YouTube and I watch all his shit, but I don't favour him at all above other people or overlook what a gross pig he is. I like Ryland and it bums me out people are so harsh to him when Shane is gross as hell
It’s obvious Jeffree isn’t happy in his relationship. Was it Garrett he met and immediately offered him money for sex, started openly flirting with him.
But he’s sooo in love with nate?
ot maybe but jeffree always seems to do his pr searches to avoid drama. he did it after the james shitstorm. get jeffree pr list trending instead of his name or james’
I wasn't so mean to Ry in this post lol >>875946
they both have issues tbh.
He also can’t have a conversation without vulgar comments about sex or his “pussy”, really seems to have doubled down on it too. Coming from a grown adult businessman is just cringe.
that, and almost every twitter post he makes there’s a lil kid tagging him and stanning him hardcore. What kind of parent allows their kid to watch that kind of content.
Yeah, he was and still is paying off drama channels, he blatantly does it, that's why they are always coming at James/manny and always kissing his fake balloon ass.
Also, I wonder if Nate will speak on "banning" James from the house? You'd think the number one proof would be Nate that Jeffree would use to make James seem predatory.
Jeffree has made a million, "Morning" sex tweets about Nate.
Nate doesn't do that towards him.
I vaguely remember a post where Jeffree had posted a picture of Nates sweaty face and was like, "After sex selfie!!!" and Nate had posted the picture before him saying it was an "after work out" picture and at the time people were saying Jeffree as in vegas so there's no way that it was an after-sex selfie.
It's like he's trying to convince us constantly that Nate wants to fuck him, but look, there's porn stars who are straight as an arrow. Wife, kids, the whole nine.
They can get it up and fuck men too. It's a fucking job. We know it's job Jeffree.
I feel like there's a lot of secrets that Nate knows and he may be under NDA, but then again, I feel like one-day somebodies going to come and shatter the pink house Jeffree lives in.
The most interesting thing about J* isn't his money but to me, it's this relationship with this depressed, drugged up, zombie boyfriend of his. Imagine what Nate has seen?
I remember for some reason Nate stopped following his brother an while back, I don't know if they follow each other or not now, but I feel like maybe Zach stepped out of Jeffree's lines or something.
Can you elaborate please? I know Jeffree and Rich Lux are good friends now that they’ve hung out in person. Rich is painfully biased toward Jeffree. I saw a video with him and Nick Sneider from The Viewer’s Voice where Rich says that Shane and Jeffree are both soo authentic and the best people he knows. That their friendship is pure and totes real.
How people can still trust drama channels is beyond me.
I would love to see a "save nate" hashtag and some of the drama channels following this angle, marina joyce style kek
It's a shame YouTube has become such a serious business that nobody would ever stick their neck out to even joke about that
Tbf that's really just a gay man thing. I can't think of any out gay males who aren't super vulgar.
It's a combination of being a man, not having to perform for women who actually have standards and on top of it all being incredibly insecure about their sexuality and their appearance.
Jeffree and Nate have been together since 2015, Jeffree launched Jeffree Star cosmetics in 2014, he didn't launch his first makeup until 2016 in May. Jeffree has been "famous" in some capacity since 2006. Whatever Jeffree had in 2015, was a hell of a lot more then what Nate had.
Nate, if I understand, was working at a gas station (or some low paying job) and I think staying with his parents. Jeffree flew him out and he already OWNED a business at that point, I'll say he may have just been starting up, but Jeffree wasn't some nobody.
I've always been told the time between Nate moving in and Jeffree launching his first eyeshadow was small.
Either way, whatever Jeffree had was better then what Nate had at the moment. I also feel if Jeffree hadn't made it big, they wouldn't lasted this long.
I don't think Nate would be with Jeffree if Jeffree didn't have millions. We also know how Jeffree has always been using sex, "fame" and money, whatever he had that he felt someone else wanted, to get what he's wanted in the very beginning.
Just look at some of Jeffree's old interviews (and his new ones) he's very manipulative.
No doubt he wasn't telling Nate, "I own a makeup company, I make music, I'm verified on twitter, I had the most followers on Myspace, I was worked with Akon and Nicki Minaj" etc.
I don't think Nate would've stuck around for more then a fuck if Jeffree didn't hit it big and already didn't have so much going for him. People tend to think that Jeffree was a nobody when Nate and he met, but he wasn't. He wasn't as big, but to someone like Nate he was huge. In fact thats probably why Nate hit him up, because he may have been apart of the scene, saw jeffree was a big name and he may have wanted a fuck, or just said something simple as "hi"
Or Jeffree could be lying and maybe he hit Nate up a long time ago, and Nate answered back.
either way, Now Nates kind of fucking stuck, it seems. He may have something of his own we don't know of, but I've never heard of it.
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They started dating in March of 2015. Jeffree said their first date was "Fine Dining", by 2016 Jeffree had moved Nate's brother in and got him a job at JSC. Rather Nate is gay, straight or bisexual, I have no idea. He's only dated women before Jeffree and I've heard people say that he's said that he's interested in "men in women's clothing" or he has been.
All I know is Jeffree has always called Nate Straight, even though Jeffree doesn't identify as a woman, I think he goes by whatever you want to call him.
Either way, Nate doesn't look straight by the way Jeffree dresses him, I never felt Nate was that hot, his face is okay but he has a big head and his body is kind of scrawny. I guess for Jeffree he's hot compared to Jeffree, when he's not edited to hell.
I sometimes feel Nate went for a fuck, maybe Jeffree promised him all types of shit, but stayed for the weed, easy living and because his family got involved REALLY quickly.
I also feel like Nate may have been catfished, we all know how Jeffree looks in real life, Nate may have thought he looked like his edited pictures ALL the time. Nate may just like to fuck around with Transwomen, but I don't think he'd dated a man or transwoman.
and regardless of if they love each other or not,for the right reasons etc. I feel like even someone in love with someone and not in a weird relationship, would worry about leaving their rich spouse as JUST a boyfriend, whose family has been taken care of by their spouse.
Unbalanced relationships have a hard chance of working out, because both spouses can feel stuck. The only networth I can find for Nate is around 500k and that was in 2018, but that's still like, "Dude what the fuck have you been doing?"
I don't think I even knew who Shane was back when he was dating whatserface, but they did do a video together promoting her new book (that I think he wrote a foreword for iirc) pretty recently and they talk about their relationship a bit. Honestly I don't remember the details cause I was never invested in them, but maybe this can answer some of your questions.
Also it feels kind of icky to me that some people in the comments are like "they're still soulmates!!". That's just a weird uncomfortable thing to say about any ex-couple, especially when it's been a million years and they've both moved on to new relationships they're happy in.
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So we always talk about how Ryland is just leeching of Shane or just with Shane for money itt, but genuine question (because I don't understand how youtube money works) wouldn't Ryland be the bread-winner in that relationship? Just looking at the last 6 months Ryland has put out 16 videos, and Shane has put out 3
>6 months of Ryland vids: 72.2 Million views
>6 months of Shane vids: 57 Million views
I know more are on the way, but still, isn't he probably still paying Andrew full-time (pretty handsomely I'd assume) during the months when he's not putting out content? Ryland's content probably takes significantly less time to film/edit. I haven't watched any of Ryland's stuff in a while, but I know he had a sponsor (Audible, DollarShaveClub, etc) for basically every video he did. I know Shane got that sweet sweet BetterHelp money from the Jake series, but does he ever have sponsors for any of his other stuff? Do his videos ever meet monetization requirements? Obviously the only reason Ryland gets that many views in the first place is because of his relationship to Shane, but at the end of the day isn't he putting in way more work than Shane is? (probably subjective). Even looking at the 8 month breakdown Shane was off for 5 months and then again for 2 months, so is Ryland the one who's actually making money so his fiancé can sit around in an unwashed robe for 5 months straight?
Like I said though, I genuinely don't understand the monetization so if anyone has insight. Conspiracy Theory: Shane might actually be the kept woman in the relationship.
Shane is in no way "broke" but it's kind of sad he's been on youtube for how many years? And he's worth the same amount as James Charles. (12 million)
I'm not buying he's broke, but he's jealous he's not richer and that all started because of that first "Jeffree's Not so bad, Forgive him!!" series he made.
That screwed him and Ryland up.
It's just really gross regardless of how much money Shane has, to see him whine about money, when he's in a mansion, trying to sell makeup to teenagers/young adults who don't have a quarter of what he has.
Some probably work harder then he ever has. However, life isn't fair. There's people who work hard and get nowhere and nothing, and there's people who work a little and get everywhere.
SameAnon- Also, it's not like he's going broke, like he can't afford his lifestyle and he's whining.
Nope, he's just upset he's not rich as Jeffree & younger YouTubers. He just wants more money.
it's clear he wanted people to go and figure out who hurt "poor" jeffree by being phoney. Jeff does this all the time.
He says something to start drama, then goes, "oh there's no drama, I just wanted to…"
It's obvious his life isn't "beatiful" if it takes something so small and dumb to set him off.
Last time he did this was he had made a tweet about one of the "biggest" brands in the world wanting to pay him to "make their irrelevent brand" popular again.(makes zero sense)
Then he made a tweet backtracking. He's a sorry, sad fuckboy.
it was in his insta? anyone know if someone saved/downloaded it
fr i only watch his stories when it’s his dogs. those lil fuzzy shits are cute as hell.
also not sure if relevant but he’s doing another sale. palettes, mirrors and all the poop coloured lipsticks nobody wants. I know he does this regular to get rid of old stock but he’s synced it up with shane’s videos.
he’s gross, but he knows when to push his brand. like i said before, he starts the pr list bs when he’s got drama.
Did Jeffree say James was like a little brother?? Wasn't this AFTER Nate Banned James from the house?
Didn't this idiot say Nate banned him in February? THE LIES.
I don't think he can tell whats the truth anymore.
Also, anyone else noticed how they used a lot more black women giving reviews for J* makeup.
I agree Jeff is an good businessman (But bad unhappy person), he also has Nate trained down pat, sure I see through the bullshit, but he knows what to do to keep Nate around (Mainly involving his family and the money) and keeping him in line.
Nate doesn't want fame, he's simple to please. Money, Drugs, pussy and keeping his family good.
Ryland wants, fame, money and to get paid for doing NOTHING. (Which to be fair, Shane is a depressed mess and it's not fair for even Ryland to have to deal that shit)
Nate is the perfectly trained, high empty headed skater boy.
He knows what he has in Jeffree and Jeffree knows what Nate has in Jeffree.
Shane doesn't seem to know that.
Jeffree has YEARS of buying people and getting what he wants with his money. Shane's a dumb ass and lazy.
Ryland doesn't have to deal with anything. He can leave Shane any time he wants, but the Gucci means more to him. Dealing with Shane's unwashed ass is the least he can do for a paycheck since he does fuckall else. He wants to be a kept man like Nate sooo bad and it's fucking sad.>>876391
If Shane wanted to be rich he should've done better than Onision tier comedy videos for the bulk of his career. It's pathetic seeing him force his bumbling way into makeup when it's obvious he's only in it for the money. J is a piece of shit but at least he has genuine passion for what he does and it paid off. Shane wants the income of a beauty guru without putting any of the legwork in.
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The Ryland hate has always kind of confused me tbh. He can be annoying as fuck for sure but >>876236
makes a valid
point and he always seemed like the most grownup or responsible of the group (which isn't hard when you surround yourself with children). Everyone talks about him being a gold digger, but if anything he just seems like a stay at home soccer mom running a household of disgusting teens to me. I've never gotten the sense that their relationship was fake, even just because Ryland has been very vocal and direct about wanting kids and a family and getting married in several videos has even talked about surrogacy and what their options would be. I don't think their relationship is fake, I just think Shane is too immature to know how to be in a grownup relationship. Ryland is always seen working out and eating healthy and getting up early and actually leaving the house, what effort is Shane making in their relationship if he's wearing the same clothes for a month straight and pissing in bottles to avoid having to get off the couch? But Morgan is equally as lazy/disgusting as Shane, so I think Ryland just doesn't even think it's weird that he has to babysit Shane, because he's been babysitting Morgan probably his whole life. Shane literally wallows in his own filth for months on end and Morgan's entire personality is essentially >cheezits lol!!! so randum!! xDDD
and whining about having to do anything ever, and still like half of her videos feature Ryland because she probably wouldn't get anything done without him.
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Another one of his dogs are in medical care.
During the video J leaves then comes back and rubs his nose like he left to go do blow, then was shown eating a bunch of candy and shit afterwards….
I never noticed it before but that could explain why he is so skinny and has such a huge sweet tooth, because he's an addict.
J probably isn't gonna be friends with Shane and Andrew anymore because he wanted to talk off camera and Andrew kept filming.
>>876627>He does nothing to help Shane or anything>Ryland shouldn't have to help>He should at least want his fiancee happy and healthy
Ryland is clearly keeping their entire household afloat while also making almost 4 times the amount of content Shane does and keeping their animals alive, how is that not helping? Of course he wants his fiancee happy and healthy, but what are you proposing he do? Hide antidepressants in his food? Ryland is his partner, not his therapist or his mother. You can't force anyone to do anything they don't want to do and Shane is a grown ass man.
>But no he'd rather have a tantrum because Shane disinvited him to a store opening where Shane wasn't even a focus just a side pet for Jeffree. Rland is every bad stereotype of a jealous gay man and it gets old FAST
Sorry, is this from the series? I can't get through more than about 1 minute because they're both so insufferable, but that doesn't sound like jealously that sounds like a reasonable reaction to Shane being a shitty partner and prioritizing the wrong person's feelings. If my partner blew me off to go be the arm candy of a cum-thirsty alien who clearly has a dysfunctional relationship and a history of showing up at our house unannounced with a dress up to their balls bragging about not wearing underwear while shoving $15,000 of gifts at my partner right in front of me, I would be mad too?
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>>876629>I'm so fucking devastated and wish I could trade places with him right now
wish you could too fam
Poor dog, but Jeffree deserves to lose the few things he loves.
He's a horrible person and karma's coming for him yet again.
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there is a lot more that goes into monetization and earnings than just video views from the past 6 months. also, rewatchability is important, and no one is re-watching ryland's videos. i'm sure tons of people continued to click into shane's videos over the past 6 months, beyond just what he's posted recently.
socialblade's summary isn't perfect, but it gives a good idea.
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and shane, to compare.
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Yeah teacup dogs have tons of health problems because tea cup dogs aren't an actual breed, the way that they are born so tiny id because the mother is starved so her puppies are born premature and are all basically runts
its pretty fucked up since they're basically struggling just to live but because they're so tiny its oh so cute
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Haven’t watched the vid but was this really it? They’re not quitting youtube they’re just….doing it less? They got a whole Shane expose for that? What does any of that have to do with Jeffree or makeup?
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Also Trisha back on some bullshit making everyone on twitter mad. Haven’t watched this one either but I’m honestly surprised people are stupid enough to be up in arms like this. Trisha is CLEARLY mentally ill and constantly posts videos where she’s just completely out of her mind and proclaiming nonsensical things. Trisha posts a video where she’s talking about how she’s become a Teletubby and we all laugh, but she says she’s trans and suddenly people take her seriously?
>>876642>because he's an addict.
because hes anorexic, like cmon!
He treats food like it's satanic shit from the shitholes of hell.
I'd wager both anorexic and a cokehead.
Is anyone else old enough to remember Jeffree Starr, MySpace Celebrity?
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I usually found enjoyment in Shane's series, some were worse than the others but they were all fun to watch.
However, the more I see him, the more I realize how disconnected to the real world he is. It's quite disgusting really.
He defends himself by saying "I'm not AS rich as Jeffree tho!!" But.. you are still disgustingly rich. You live in a mansion Shane.
In the back of my head, I'm still waiting for them to say that the revenue from the palette will go to charity. The concept of this series is so disgusting that's the only way I can see this as not just a big disgusting cash grab.
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I know she hasn’t been mentioned for awhile but Eugenia just posted this video of her lying her ass off
>opens with a betterhelp sponsorship >talks about how she got out of a toxic friendship, very obviously referring to Jaclyn>”I had people in my life that ended up doing some really really not so great things to me” >credits her mom for getting her help>”I guess when things for me were getting to a really bad, like, dangerous point, it was like, my mom, she was starting to get really concerned…so she like, did bring up concern to me and, like eventually, I did end up getting help” https://youtu.be/FriMdH_VA0k
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as much as i don’t want to jump to conclusions based on a few instagram pictures, a hallmark of anorexia recovery is extreme, constant, painful bloating & she has a completely flat stomach in her recent photos. she could just be sucking in or something but i mean…if she’s actually eating a weight gain diet like she’s supposed to then i doubt she’d be wearing crop tops
Fuck this lying cunt.
Jaclyn + friends got her help! Her fat pos mother wants her dead.
She shouldn't have a platform, shes an incredible negative influence.>>878973
I doubt she realized anything earlier this year. Pretty sure she doesn't get help. She's not showing her body and if, only parts that could look like she gained weight, so people back off.
Woow, fuck you Eugenia. Blaming it all on Jaclyn and praising your mother is such a shit move. Guess what, if you just relied on mommy dearest, you wouldn't end up in treatment. Also, Jaclyn did not deserve to be dragged for helping you.
Seriously, screw her, my empathy reservoir has been drained.
In the Shanes series she said that what Jaclyn did (I'm pretty sure she never said any names so this is all speculations or whatever) was unexpected, that apparently Jaclyn never before showed concern for Eugenia's state. So in Eugenias head this act was out of nowhere, hence toxic
Jaclyn on the other hand said that it's not true, that she was always concerned but never heavy handed her concerns to not upset the mother.
She probably has been the scapegoat for that entire family for years
The dad is abusive
and creepy (he calls her hot and she’s terrified of him)
The brother eats as much as the mom (golden child)
The mom has been quoted arguing with her gran during one of her videos b
G: you are killing her!
M: I WANT THE MONEY.
I don't even like Jaclyn but it's obvious her mother was the issue.
Eugenia threw her right under the bus.
I agree with some of this, but Eugenia is always the victim
. To some extent she is, but she's also a woman child who needs to grow the fuck up. This meek act she plays is incredibly fake and everyone seems to think she's 'soooo sweet' when in reality her Insta posts and tweets have bullshit fake positivity all throughout them.
I think it might be that most abuse victims
try to force positivity as a type of escapism/coping mechanism
If Shane literally took a shit on the ground, covered it in rhinestones and then cried about how it made "him feel beautiful again" while that asshole laughed behind the quivering camera, to some people it'd still be, "the best content on youtube"
"an amazing experience and the most well-executed camera work i've ever seen"
I didn't watch to the end, but did he literally cut out James Charles scandal? Wasn't that in the trailer last week?
The number of people I see feeling bad for Shane Dawson and forgetting the bitch that Jeffree is crazy to me.
When I saw someone talking about how Shane was jealous of Jeffree and Nate's relationship because"how in love they are" and how, "He wanted someone to love him like how Nate loves Jeffree and looks at Jeffree, Ryland is a golddigger whose in it for the money and Nate is in it for love. Shane is starting to see that"
I literally fucking turned my computer off, laughed and went to bed.
You can't make this shit up.
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why does he type like Shayna?
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Came here to ask the same thing? What kind of 31 year old types like this
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Are these really some of the shades? (Haven't watched it) Trish like he named one after Trisha Paytas or is that a reference to something else? If so yikes.>>878940
that blatant Jeffree Star mirror in the background tho.
Names literally a 14-year-old girl would give shit in high school and everyone would laugh because "lul random" I really don't get why people find this shit funny or relatable.
it's really corny. But thats shane, I guess he panders to who loves him the most.
I think she's probably nice but also does get a sick pleasure out of exposing her body and the attention it brought her. even if she didn't really realize what was going on with her (i doubt this but can imagine it) I think she became addicted to the attention/shock/concern over time.
I mean look at all the "recovery" anachans who act super posi and are still body checking publicly and are obviously still sick. they get something out of all the sympathy and concern and questioning.
i think she also probably got a lot of positive attention and encouragement from creeps
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They literally have such awful names. And it's being split into one normal sized palette and one mini palette. Plus he's doing the mirrors, the lip kits…. Really squeezing as much money as he can out of this launch while barely taking it seriously. It's like this fun game he gets to play, just playing with make up but then he gets to be rewarded with millions of dollars at the end. It's just crazy to me.
Pretty sure he can't use brand names. Maybe they're going to change a few letters or so>>879589
How can their fans not see that all they care about is money? They're so fucking greedy. Wonder what they'll do after these videos are all out. Another "documentary" about the most interesting person ever to put another palette out?
Also lol at Shanes re-editing to put the two dogs that died in the end. Can't let anyone forget that another dog died, to get a few more sympathy bucks.
some brands might be fine. it depends if they have a specific copyright with cosmetics? it's kind of confusing.
like you probably couldn't use any form of "Cheetos" or Disney characters for make up since they released their own make up and probably have the rights to any similar names but A&W might not and might be too hard to prove it represents the brand. (since you could easily say it stands for ass and wipes or whatever the fuck)
sage for boring but yeah that's why you see company's with similar names from completely different fields like "diamond publishing" and "diamond blinds"
A conspiracy themed pallet has so much potential and seeing it being wasted on weird shades with names relating to his poor diet and dumb sayings is disappointing.
It's like they are trying to make it a Shane themed pallet and a conspiracy themed pallet at the same time and it's clashing badly.
And the number that Jeffree dropped on Shane for that fucking give away for one ABH pallet is ridiculous I'm sorry. What was it like $250,000? No wonder the beauty industry is filled with crooks. The amount of money they get for give aways, sponsorships and merch is insane to me and that is the whole reason Shane is jumping on Jeffree's dick.
If Shane was actually passionate about make up I wouldn't even be that salty about it but the guy doesn't give a shit about hygiene let alone beauty. Even this "documentary" is a big masturbatory spectacle for his launch. He could have focused more on the beauty industry itself and important issues like you know, ethics maybe? But why waste valuable time with that when poor Shane has to recoup his "losses" with all that beauty guru coin. After all he isn't JEFFREE rich guize uwu.
Who knows maybe J knows this is a dumb idea and will make a second pallet with a conspiracy theme and tell Shane it just be like that.
I fully agree that Shane just wants the money and could care less about any of this. If he was serious about make up we'd see more of it. But he's too busy playing up his 'poor' angle. My guess is things will sell for the hype but taper out when people start to realize this is just a boring collab with nothing unique about it.
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Same fag as this post but I wanted to add the names so everyone could see what color was called what. Some of these might be mixed up since the some of the colors are so similar to one another, I apologize. The ones in parenthesis are names they haven't decided on yet. Not all of these shades were approved. The also still want to add like 3 more shades to complete one full palette (named Conspiracy) and one mini palette (named Mini Controversy).
Are people really still getting cucked into buying the same Pantone colors over and over again?
It’s like people don’t even realize there hasn’t been a new eyeshadow color since the 80’s. It’s the same shit over and over in different order. I have 2 eyeshadow palettes. One is neutrals and one is colors. Who needs more than that?
What really disgusts me about this whole thing is how wasteful and consumerism obsessed it is. Just the samples alone had so much plastic that they threw in the trash that I cringed. Jeffree flies around on a private jet. Just buys shit he doesn’t need.
It’s disgusting how much people just don’t give a shit that they’re being brainwashed into giving millionaires their pittance to destroy the planet.
Those shade names are totally dumb. There's also no shade their fans shouldn't already have if they're buying JSC religiously.
It's always the same, but it's sO sPeCiaL because it's JeffreexShane.
>>879853>>when it's really just a stoned skeleton moving eyeshadows around lmao
i laughed for like 20 mintues over this.
Also was Nate in any of the scenes? Shane's fucking up bringing his Sugarbaby to work, I don't really remember seeing Nate at all.
Then again, he's a stoned fucking Ken Dolls who just blends into the background so it's easy to miss him.
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Not gonna lie, the idea for a conspiracy palette has potential, but if I was making it, I'd probably go in a different direction (even though I have to admit, I know nothing about make up). For example, a shade called conspiracy could be a very dark metallic shade of green (attaching a reference picture). I feel like it's using too many warm&light colors that would be more suitable for a piglet palette. Just my opinion though.(blog)
fucking this they've had this project for almost a year and they dont have videos already pre-edited. Like jfc he doesn't do anything for the most part how long does it truly take to edit 9 videos.
Like they are prob gonna launch all this shit once the last video is up so probably early November to sell for the Christmas crowd.
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The absolute gall of him to ask for these prices on such trash designs. They're so ugly, and I can't be the only one who finds the "editeaing" shirt just plain dumb sounding, right?
He might be doing it because of drama and controversy. He got in trouble a lot for being tasteless and it might be a strategy to be able to make changes last minute.
My guess is the sifting through raw footage and shit is done in advance but they sit on their hands as long as possible so they can spin things depending on the reaction to the episode before
Everything had sold out in 20 minutes other than the stupid slides.
I actually kind of like some of the designs, but it's definitely way overpriced. Feel sorry for all the parents who let their kids buy this when they see how trashy the products are.
I think it's almost guaranteed that the makeup will drop mid-late November, that means that all the teens can beg their parents for it for xmas and Shane and J* get the most out of it.
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Has anyone noticed how gigantic Morgan looks?
This is the biggest I've ever seen her look. She looks almost as big as Shane
Also, it's super obvious that Jeffree doesn't like Ryland and Morgan.
Those prices are way too high. I have no doubt that if they had skills to do it, they'd just establish their own luxury fashion brand, but who would buy that? Their fans are not rich, many of them are teens. That considered, these prices are not cool- it's going to drain some teen-wallets, but it's not too expensive for them to be completely unable to buy it. Shane is maybe happy that he's going to make more money from this merch BUT since it's so much pricier it's like "no shit Sherlock".
I hope someone reviews these HONESTLY and without ass-kissing Shane and Jeffree, because if they charge this much it better be high quality.
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And some dumb adult wallets too. I mean…pic for evidence
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If this is one of the pics they chose to promote the stuff i’d like to see the rejects. jeff looks old as fuck.
“i’m not a regular mom i’m a cool mom!”
Jeffree looks like a corpse and I can see the flakes of skin on Shane's face.
This whole thing is such a gross money-grab to anyone over the age of 12. Over-priced, thoughtless merch to match his over-priced, thoughtless palette. Question: why wasn't the palette named after Shane instead of "Conspiracy"? Did they even think about the theme for longer than five minutes? How do "diet cola" and "Trisha" fit?
I thought Jeffree was unattractive with his fake lipped mouth closed, but he looks like someone's crackhead mom, who came into some money for new teeth.
Crackhead Soccer mom.
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Ew this makes my skin crawl. This makes me feel like somewhere in Jeffree's mansion there's a room covered in pictures of Shane and Garrett where Jeffree has pasted his own face over Garrett's. Speaking of, I only ever started watching Shane's newer content because of how much I loved Garrett vids, as much as I miss seeing him I hope he's distancing himself from that group and is staying as far away from Jeffree as possible. He was too good for them anyways, too bad Andrew sold his soul for youtube bucks.>>880728>Also, it's super obvious that Jeffree doesn't like Ryland and Morgan.
I've always gotten the vibe that Morgan has never liked Jeffree either. She wasn't in the original Jeffree sob story series right? She and Shane did that makeup video forever ago where she talks about youtubers who will be super friendly and kiss-ass to Shane and then turn around and be super rude to her….which definitely sounds like Jeffree. Also iirc she definitely didn't have any JS in her makeup bag, which is definitely a choice considering how much Shane shoves his makeup down everyone's throats. There's also Ryland's video where they're doing goat yoga and Ryland's running around trying to get his whole family to put on matching JS jumpsuits and Morgan was very clearly not interested in that. Jeffree follows everyone in that photo on twitter except for Morgan
I think Ryland liked him initially but I bet he's tired of Jeffree inserting himself into their relationship/life for over a year now. Clearly all of Shane's time and energy has has been taken over by Jeffree. Kind of makes me wonder if the engagement was just to appease Ryland because Shane was being a shitty boyfriend. I wonder if it'll come out that Shane and Jeffree have been foolin' around. >>881015
What happened with Shane's mom and Bobby Burns? She was definitely in the Trisha series and the Kathy Griffin series. Maybe they just live farther away now in their mcmansion?
Why is Shane head So fucking HUGE? Why is Jeffree sitting like that? Ryland just looks sick of the shit.
I think Jeffree's Issue with Morgan is- Woman.
>>I wonder if it'll come out that Shane and Jeffree have been foolin' around.
I bounce between, no and maybe on this one.
Mostly because Jeffree has a type. Shane is not that type, however, do feel that Shane is attracted to Jeffree because like him, Jeffree does the generic, "I'm gay, so I have to talk about sex and dick all the time" thing. You know basic Gay Male Youtuber Personality that most these dudes have.
But more so then that Shane loves jeffree's Money and the confidence he thinks Jeffree has. I do not doubt if given the chance Shane would gladly whip out his Shrimp or stank ass for Jeffree and be his lap dog.
Do I think Jeffree would come back for seconds? Nope. Do I think Jeffree would go for Shane if he wasn't Shane Dawson? Nope.
I find both Jeffree and Shane perverted and gross. Neither has respect for their spouses and their spouses don't seem to have respect but some kind of understanding of their roles. (well really Nate, Ryland isn't trained)
But then again, Shane's actually attracted to Jeffree so maybe despite his stankness, his personality and how he looks, maybe Jeffree will get how it feels to be with someone who is actually 100% attracted to him inside and out.
Maybe they are a match in hell. I just don't buy they are friends, If anything Shane wants to fuck Jeffree and it's all buiness.
Shane gains money and Jeffree gains people forgetting how shitty he is until he fucks up again.
They're all crowns, but his dentist or the assistant who helped him pick out his tooth color didn't warn him that going too bright looks way fake. Jeffree is so gross, I remember him talking about how he doesnt have to brush since he has crowns. Then later on his instagram he was shown getting a root canal. Its because he wasn't flossing probably and had food stuck in his contacts and he got a huge cavity. >>881086
I think shane just got bored if Garrett like he does with all of his friends (Drew, Brittany, Jessi, Shanna, ect.) He just gets bored of people. I dont see this squad leaving too soon, since Ryland is marrying Shane and Morgan is his sister. But I wouldn't be surprise if he replaces Andrew with a new camera man in a few years.
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You fools, his teeth are that white and perfect because he never brushes his teeth and has his dogs "clean" his gums instead! (genuinely not sure if I should have spoilered this image)>>880956
I'm wondering if it actually did or if they just say it did as publicity. That seems like a very Jeffree-scheme to pull since his makeup was always ~so exclusive~ back in the day that it was always sold out. Does anyone else remember when people used to lose their shit and scramble to refresh the page the moment Jeffree's lipsticks were restocked? I mean, it worked, he really drummed up clout for his shitty makeup. There's a conspiracy for ya.
Not brushing is just disgusting, smells like shit.. but as someone who has only a few crowns in the front… The bacteria that surrounds the metal or porcelain smells like actual literal shit. Had some crowns broken off to get teeth removed and it is absolutely vile. I always thought Jeffree smells like sugar but now all I can imagine is death-breath.>>881190
He also lets his dogs lick his face clean…yikes…. He's no better than Shane!
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Imagine not even showing your own face in pictures promoting YOUR brand.
Jeff still looks like a crypt keeper. Shane has a massive zit or bite on his cheek. Who approved this?
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Tentatively, of course, who would have expected anything else? I am honestly going to be surprised if this doesn't get delayed.
He needs JS because it fits his attention seeking "Guys I'm BI and love DICK and omg so into makeup (dont you know I used to smear lipstick all over my face for a skit! Obviously my passion!!) feel sorry for me because i was such a suppressed LGBT empath baby!!"
Now that he's ~engaged~ to Ryland, he's got to pump up the gayness x 10000 and throw in YAAAASSSS QWAAAAYYYYN SLAYYYYY when old shane would joke and shit on people like that.
i think we are the only 2 who get bad vibes from ryland. ryland seems like he is forcing this relationship. i wonder do they have sex. i can see shane not being into sex. plus im not convince shane is gay. i dont think shane cares. he just wants gay privilege. I also think he is tired of ryland but doesnt know how to leave. >>880596
jeffree used to be a makeup artist thats why people bought his last line. i dont know about his new line. >>881118
quit romancing this. this is all business for both of them. now, it maybe hitting friendship levels but they both need each other. now i think jeff will leave shane for the better. he will teach shane some discipline. hopefully they end before they hate each other.
Im not romancizing anything? Someone said some tinfoiled and I tinfoiled with them. Also didn't you read me say, "it's all buiness"?
Jeffree, Shane and all involved are idiots and bad people.
>> jeffree used to be a makeup artist thats why people bought his last line. i dont know about his new line.
And his Youtube fame, the million reviews telling you it's amazing, Shane's first Doc and this Doc.
Most of Jeffree shit gets brought because it's Jeffree Star's shit.I have friends who love Jeffree, brought some lipsticks, didn't like them but still will drop whatever they have on his overpriced bullshit.
It's going to be even worst because the Documentary Showing Jeffree as this amazing but giving businessman, who puts SO MUCH quality into EVERY SINGLE drop, etc. etc.
Plus he's a good person because he's nice to stinky Shane. (/S)
His trash is a step above Kylie's, but at this point these fools could be selling literal Dollar Store make up, with fancy plastic around it and slap some cute bunny on it and people will buy it, because it's "X Youtuber"
Jeffree's not going to teach Shane SHIT. Shane used Jeffree for an easy way into the cash cow that is makeup community.
Jeffree just needed someone to kiss his ass and clean up his rep, before he fucks it up again.
Thats really it. When they stop pretending to be friends, Shane will be a richer poor looking, depressed slob and Jeffree will go back to the regular programming.
They bother literally learned nothing and won't be better people because of this, just richer and will probably feel untouchable.
Which mean they'll do the dumb shit they normally do.
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Shane looks disgusting. Jeffree looks shopped to death, but my lord Shane…
and how much are those fucking mirrors? They look like cheap dollar store shit.
They don't even look big. It looks like something you'd make in high school design class.
Called the shade change.
Regarding the new video, first 11 minutes were such a waste of time- saying goodbye to their old house, probably edited in to have some more Shane x Ryland moments before a suggestive photo shoot with Jeffree. (Drew and Garret were also shown from an old footage; but they don't read gossip, right?) The rest wasn't tragic but they better spill some earl grey after briefly mentioning James so many times.
The big palette looks pretty good and cohesive, small one is kinda… meh? Overall it was an okay episode if you ignore the fucking filler at the beginning and more shocker baby Shane.
Nah, it isn't attention seeking - its money. Shane Dawson like other ol' youtubers post random shit, or jump on trends to stay relevant for ad revenue.
Remember how he use to do those food reviews, and 10 ten shit? He did it because it was trending! He wanted dat moolah. I don't care that he's trying to make money(in the most self-disrespecting way possible)
It just pisses me off when he acts like "Oh, I wanted to do this!!" Fuck off, faggot.
The same goes for Jenna Marbles, smosh, Dan&Phill, pewdiepie, they're all grasping at straws to be relevant.
>>881947>10 ten shit
i meant top ten shit
just love to impulse post without checking(twice counting)>>881659
Anon, your tinfoil hat has seeped into your slop of a brain.
They're probably being awkwardly affectionate to each other because of Andrew or whoever.
I mean I would be pretty awkward showing affection to my SO if someone else was there.
Unless you're a degenerate, imagine how awkward it would be to suck-face yo SO in front of your parents.
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I hate that I love that one really metallic green(his newer shade) kinda hope someone comes out with a dupe.
I feel you. And since this will be out on november, right for xmas, this colour would have been perfect for the season.
I don't know if going for the "basic girl" is a good strategy. Overall, most of the people buying it will be fans of beauty gurus ( crazy colours… hello?)
When this shit launches, if I like anything I'm def. going to be looking for some dupes, thats literally what I use these youtubers/reviewers videos for.
So I if I see a nice color, hopefully I can find something cheaper, similar and I don't have to give these fools my money.
The realtor made the house look so much better than Shane had it.
Also why does Shane keep saying he's never sold anything in a store or sold out of things? Didn't he have hot topic shirts? Like he was one of the first youtubers with merch.
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>>881605>>881118>man I miss the Lisa era, he looked nice and well kept
I think it's interesting, aesthetically Shane was more of a (stereotypical) gay man when dating Lisa (well groomed, well dressed, straightened hair, body conscious to the point of ED
), and more of a straight man when dating Ryland (poor hygiene, no effort in appearance, body conscious but won't take care of himself, haircare/skincare nonexistent
). I know everyone here likes to talk about how Shane and Ryland don't make any sense together because how could Ryland put up with that when he is the way he is BUT my theory is that Ryland is actually super into the "gross straight guy" aspect of it. It probably makes him feel like more of the "woman" in the relationship if he's taking on all of the more feminine traits (running the household, trophy wife, diet/exercise to keep in shape, raising their idiot child Morgan
). This is why I also think it's entirely plausible that Jeffree would be totally into Shane as well, because Jeffree also only likes "straight" guys (though I don't think Jeffree is Shane's type). Thanks for coming to my TED talk.>>882040>imagine getting to sex and that is on top of you grunting away.
c'mon now, Ryland may be the bottom but you know Shane's the one laying on his back with his clothes on the whole time. No way he'd exert that much effort.
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Yeah, he was basically the first youtuber to be big enough to have merch at Hot Topic back in the day. He's written 2 books (both of which were definitely in stores) and has both directed and starred in quite a few shitty movies.
This whole thing is tacky as hell. So far every part of this series has had a huge focus on money and I understand it's a business but there is a very clear narrative of Shane being a victim
because he hasnt been making as much money as he "should". Boo fucking hoo join the club. >>881947>The same goes for Jenna Marbles, smosh, Dan&Phill, pewdiepie, they're all grasping at straws to be relevant.
This. I have been a fan of Jenna's for years but what the fuck is her content lately? For hitting 20 million subs she took a nap on camera…bitch we know you're getting older but this is still your job.
They lose touch with their audience and just expect everybody to be okay with lazy bullshit because they can use the "relatable" angle.
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And I'm sure Jeffree will be bitching about it when YouTubers start suggesting good dupes for these colors. But like others have said, this palette isn't even for make up lovers. It's for Shane's fans who will buy it, regardless if they will actually use it or not. They will buy it because it's from Shane x Jeffree. Fucking sad.
Jeffree and his team are very aware of the fact Shane fans will buy his makeup even if they dont care about the makeup. I feel like J fans do that exactly with his makeup. I have seen people irl and on social media who dont wear makeup almost ever that buy a lot J
makeup and merch. It's crazy. The bg scene has changed a lot from when I first starting watching. At first it was really just geared towards makeup fans, now its geared towards youtubes general audience. Which explains why beautytubers do less and less makeup content (ie j* and James Charles) and more vlog style videos.
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It's not even made in cali, his merch is literally just made in China, it says it right under "details".
Shane did mention in a few videos how he always finishes with porn once fucking ryland. Crucify me for i have no idea which videos but it certainly was a thing. I asked about shane's mom before and i feel retarded for going on and on about the goddamn moms but it kinda feels shane rather hangs and films ryland's family. This is shane's shot at having a normie family.>>882334
how the fuck are they gonna have kids when neither of them can even cook without a sponsored meal delivery thing?
jeez, that's fucking tacky. So they are really really marked up. I can't believe people are paying 80 bucks for a plastic pig bag made in china, and I can't believe they had the audacity to sell it. Especially when J made some snide comment about James Charles making more of a profit off of his palette than J
does off of his because James' was made in china, while star's is made in cali. I was already over Shane and J* (mainly jeffree), but this is really the last nail in the coffin for me.
Yep it's been covered by the makeup drama accounts.
It's pretty much all Morphe makeup (aka cheap china produced makeup with excess filler) with a nice package.
Even brands who usually make nice makeup will revert to cheap Morphe shit when it comes to their Youtuber palettes.
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i know he's wearing a baggy hoodie, but f u c k
This seems like a real reach to me. Are you basing your entire opinion of their relationship off this one video? Cause they have literal years of videos where they're being normally affectionate. What you're describing sounds like pretty standard "I know my girlfriend is pissed off at me because she texted me "k." but I'm too emotionally stunted to understand why" behavior. Ryland is probably pissed that Shane is spending all of his time and energy on another man and not prioritizing their relationship at all, and he's right to be pissed at Shane for that. Yall love to call Ryland the gold digger but Shane's the one who's selling his soul for money and cashing in on his relationship with Jeffree.>>882394
Are you having a stroke?>>882322>it reminds me of myspace scene kid shit like gloomy bear
Ooooh, yup, you hit the nail on the head. That makes a lot of sense considering Jeffree's pulling all the strings here. It's not something I would ever buy, but I do think it's a well designed "mascot" for Shane and it does light up the "tacky scene kid" part of my brain. Now he can throw that on any arbitrary item and charge 6x as much for it, which he couldn't necessarily do with "Shane Dawson" or even his dumb triangle logo.
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Jeffrey is like a woman who is responsible for both her man's success and her man's discipline. Highly doubt anything would be going on between the two but Ryland is probably fuming anyway.
Understandably. Jeffree's tacky and always acting like a slut.
He's clinging onto Shane, talking about licking his sweat and he's giving him all of that sweet $$ Shane so desperately wants.
Friends don't behave like that around each other and it shows that Shane doesn't care about his fiance's feelings.
Yes because Jeffree barely treats like a human. More like a cute expensive dog or a very expensive sex doll.
Shane 100% wants a lap dog, that won't expect much more from him then money.
and Ryland looks like even money isn't making him happy anymore.
We can see Nate's depressed and doped out 100% of the time.
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This looks so….muddy. Like this color looks like when you mix every paint color together and get a gross muddy grey mess.
>jeffreestar x me
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His greasy hands make the eyeshadows look so gross.>>882636
I mean it's still a lot of money and it's ridiculous he's crying that he's so poor. >>882591
He's so awful. If a girl were doing her makeup like this, people would be saying that it's bad and she needs to practice more. But since Shane is doing it he gets nothing but, "Omg Shane, you're doing so good. Keep it up!!! You've improved so much!"
honestly I'd be fine just seeing it done nicely by a professional. he can afford it. just be honest.
it's a ridiculous cashgrab no matter what but at least market the product well. brands wouldn't send PR to an mua who put work like this up.
there are uglier and fatter drag queens out there pulling together better looks so his face isn't an excuse.
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>>882602>Why aren't more people calling this out?
I mean, herein lies the entirety of the J* cinematic universe. We seem to be safe over here but if you so much as mention his name in the Beauty Guru thread Jeffree stans swarm out of nowhere to deflect blame. If you look at those threads it's 50% people calling Jeffree out on his bullshit and 50% J-stans going:>umm being racist isn't even that big of a deal?? >the woman he made those racist remarks about is actually the problematic one?? because>even though those screencaps of him making racist remarks recently have been unequivocally proven to be real 47 different ways i'm just not buying it i think they're fake>fake news fake news fake news>>882487>Jeffrey is like a woman who is responsible for both her man's success and her man's discipline.
lmao what? Shane is the one responsible for Jeffree's success, what discipline? Jeffree's has had like 5000 different scandals swept under the rug, the only one he couldn't sweep under the rug as easily was (one of) the videos of him literally screaming the n-word and Shane gave him an out for that too by giving him an entire sob story series about it. I don't mean this in a harsh way but are you new to the Jeffree drama? This is a really naive thing to say.
For anyone new to Jeffree's bullshit, this is a pretty comprehensive list, but honestly still does not cover some of the overall themes and tactics he's been using for decades now. (This link should probably be included in future Shane/Beautube thread OPs):https://www.reddit.com/r/BeautyGuruChatter/comments/bduvox/a_comprehensive_list_of_jeffree_stars_many/
Jeffree is VERY good at marketing, manipulation, and scare tactics and threatens legal action at the drop of a hat, which even when he has zero legal standing is enough to scare a lot off a lot of small nobody youtubers (which is who he goes after). THIS is why he doesn't get "called out", he publicly threatens big bad defamation suits if people criticize him or his products. He also "befriends" basically all of the drama bloggers and Youtube itself. This means that drama bloggers don't point out his daily terrible behavior the way they do other bloggers, or will divert attention from his scandals and even sway public opinion in his favor with their videos. By "befriending" Youtube, his videos are always #1 trending (this isn't gossip he literally told Rich Lux that this is what he does). The last people that "called him out" for being racist, Jeffree and his hoard of cronies pulled an Uno reverse card on them and basically obliterated their entire careers** because that's how powerful he is. Jeffree's a horrible person, but he's also smart and good at what he does, and Shane is the biggest tool (heh) he's ever had in his arsenal. He doesn't have any control over Shane or his "discipline" because Shane is the one who controls Jeffree's entire narrative. Jeffree doesn't show up at Shane's house with no underwear and shower him with $15,000 worth of presents because he's a good friend, he does it because he desperately needs to keep in Shane's good graces, and money is the only influence he has over Shane. Shane is the only ""friend"" Jeffree has at this point because he's publicly decimated every other friendship he's had, and in order to keep Shane as a ""friend"" (asset) he's having to legally bind Shane to him through business dealings. Shane is literally Jeffree's last (and only) hope for pretending he's a human being and not a cumthirsty lizard person.
**(Obviously they destroyed their own careers as well, but it would take literal years to get into Jeffree's levels of hypocrisy at this point. Jeffree could have 100,000 tweets saying the n-word every day for the past 5 years and still turn the entire internet against someone saying "hey that's bad")
>>882669>here’s a list of how terrible jeffree star has been for over a decade>ur a shanefag lol!!!!
you’re not even trying>>882667
you forgot the part where we’ve been asking mods for years to do something about the blatant jeffree cronies screaming “fake news!”’at every piece of proof and they just continue to look the other way. He’s got a longer rap sheet than Onion or any other cow on this website and even here we can barely talk about it without people immediately changing the subject
Shane's in control, Jeffree handcuffed himself to Shane so Shane can't leave him because Jeffree has no other options. It's not that difficult.>>882686
If you don't want to read it….then don't? Better yet, you don't even have to click on the link. The post says>For anyone new to Jeffree's bullshit
Since you already know Jeffree's terrible why would you even pay attention past that? You don't have to throw a tantrum about it, just keep scrolling.
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oh is this why Shane became a nasty goblin? lol
There's a big difference between Ryan and it's not about their sex role. Ryan is more visible, proactive on YT, he participates in Shane's videos… and is always "joking" about money, being bougie etc. Nate is mostly quiet and only appears when Jeffree wants him to. He seems to be pretty much fine with what he has, has little to no ambition to start profiting more and just want to skate, get high and pet some pomeranians. If anything, I'd argue Ryland is more free than Nate.
(Also, can people stop calling him a twink? He's a normal skinny man with body hair. If anything, he'd be an otter.)
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Given Shane’s year long bathrobe dissociative episode following the Jake series, I wonder how he feels about him these days. Shane’s an idiot for making that dumbass Jake puff piece in the first place, I assume that his meltdown was in part due to people actually not kissing his ass for the first time ever with that series. It’s still just hilarious that Shane threw himself under the bus to make Jake look like a human, and Jake just immediately threw that good will into a dumpster and set it on fire by dumping whatshertface and “marrying” Tana. (Though tbh that relationship makes more sense to me, Tana makes Jake look sane in contrast to her). Anyways, their couple costume can be Jake and Shane and Tana as Tana peeing on Shane.
I just finished watching the 5th episode and I'll do my best to not rage. Editing was really bad- like a polished turd with corn in it. Corn represents completely unrelated bullshit that shouldn't have appeared there in this form. Morgan's insecurities and being offered some plastic surgery is a good example. It wasn't connected in any way and it kind of looks like because they promised drama, they are putting in things they can refer to as "drama" and say: The make up/beauty world is crazy you guys! It's not tea, it's not even drama, it's repeating what everyone already knows or assumes, but I guess if they're too chicken shit to deliver on promises, this is what happens. Unless they provide James Charles drama the documentary used to create hype, it's pointless to watch. This series is only an ad and it's hard to believe its actors are living people and not just add extensions.
As for the palette itself, girl designing it was (again) treated pretty badly and you could see her disappointment. In fact, some members participating in meetings looked really done with Shane, but that's just a vibe I felt. So many things went wrong and it's hard to pinpoint everything, but a lack of James Charles drama is probably the worst bit.
I saw the disappointment in that girl's (Anna was her name I believe) face too. Felt kinda bad that Shane just completely rejected everything even though she looked so excited about them. I thought one or two of the pallets had decent designs honestly. They could've worked with them to create something different, but apparently now Andrew and Shane are creating the design of the pallet themselves?? And something completely different as well.
Also speaking of Andrew - his laughing is irritating. It was cute at first but now it's just so annoying to hear him constantly laughing from behind the camera. I find that he laughs at somewhat inappropriate times too - especially in a lot of past videos. Just film ffs.
I know this series is supposed to paint Jefree in a good light but that catty attitude he had when Morgan showed interest in the security guard just shows the audience that he hates women. Any time a woman speaks he cuts them off, Morgan shows insecurity he doesn't sound sincere.I know his whole shtick is being a slutty, bratty, gay man but god he's disgusting.>>885990
I really wish he choose the retro TV big pallet it was the most interesting and new, if he didn't like the fact that the "lock" didn't work, they could've taken the time to adjust it. But instead he wants to go with an ugly football eye shape.
Exactly I agree.
The editing, as usual gave me fucking whiplash again. It's so hard to follow when they're switching back and forth. They put so much stuff in here that could've just been another episode… I don't know how people still think Shane's doing anything groundbreaking or that interesting. He almost gave me a migraine.
Lmao remember we were just talking about Morgan and Jeffree not liking each other! And us saying Jeffree hates women and isn't interested in people he doesn't find useful, i.e. Morgan, Ryland, and crew.
Now they shoehorn scenes about her and her insecurities with Jeffree giving his fake ass encouraging words.
We already know Shane knows about lolcow since he used a screenshot from here in an old video forever ago … tinfoil but I wouldn't put it past his pathetic self to lurk here. We're like the only people on the fucking internet not kissing his ass. He went mental when people criticized him on twitter so he clearly can't handle anything other than people kissing his ass.
I had to skip all the part of the colours because the editing is so bad and going from DESIGN APPROVED! to I DONT LIKE ANY OF THESE BOXES THEY'RE TOO HOT TOPIC! to MORGAN NEEDS A MAKEOVER BECAUSE SHE FEELS THE PAIN OF BEING AN INFLUENCER!
The Tv design was very cute. But too good for Shane imo.
Morgan is annoying. I slowly started to despise her in the older videos, but now she's just an obnoxious lazy pig same as Shane.
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No please anon, by all means rage. I haven't been able to stomach more than about 2 mins of the entire series so I wanna hear how stupid and infuriating it is from someone who can actually watch it. There needs to be more rage about this imo because his and Jeff's fangirls just fawn over everything and let him get away with this shit.>>886088>Lmao remember we were just talking about Morgan and Jeffree not liking each other!
I wish I could say we influenced it but blind people could see that Jeffree hates women and especially Morgan. I don't care much for Morgan tbh but it's probably because she doesn't kiss Jeffree's ass or bow at his feet like he expects every single person he comes in contact with to because she can clearly see the difference in the way he treats Shane vs the rest of the planet. So, good for her.
Do you think Jeffree hates women because he thinks he's a better "woman" than everyone he sees?
>We already know Shane knows about lolcow since he used a screenshot from here in an old video forever ago
Ooh, I missed this, what video was that in? Surprising because this thread isn't even one of the more crazy/active ones. It just flares up whenever he has a series and then is dead for the months
between videos. Or was it from an Onion thread or something?>>886025>for it looking "like hot topic" cheap
This is hilarious because I kept thinking during this whole process how this palette could have just been one of Hot Topic's cutesy one-off themed palettes that people buy just for the collectability of it and not to actually use (because they're just cheap). Not to mention Jeffree's ripped off those "hot topic cheap" palettes in the past so….it's on brand for JS. I wonder if he was lowkey triggered
by that comment. (Stealing pics from the Makeup Guru thread)
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Jeffree's "hot topic cheap" palette con't
I've work with designers before and done design work, but still think it's shitty.
Anna did her job, which yeah, she shouldn't be ass-kissed over that alone. But she DID successfully make the client's vision come to life with what she was given – a conspiracy palette, hypnosis main image using the spiral, with the packaging Shane picked out.
And what's shitty is that Jefree admits he wasn't really into the idea at all. Why self-sabotage yourself like that? Why not speak up and save Anna the trouble? Not even just Anna, but the entire team? Especially so late into the production game, where now everyone is on an insane time crunch. It's not the same as wanting to change the font or the colors, but they want to scrap the idea entirely?
Plus, you should know how obnoxious it is to have a client take your mockups and then edit it themselves.
>>886098>Shane's as fake and basic when it comes to conspiracies as he is when it comes to makeup.
This. I know it's mostly teens who think his conspiracy videos are amazing but a lot of his older fans praise them too which is pretty exceptional.
"Hey guize Katy Perry might have been Jon Benet Ramsay the whole time! Soy spoopy!"
Critical braincell loss guaranteed. Now he gets a palette with Jeffrey Starfish out of it? Whoopdie shit. The market is already over saturated without this pretentious crap. Shane should have just stuck with selling merch.
Yeah him and this series does. I got dejavu from when Shane tried to make a conspiracy video of stupid chuck e cheese pizza right in the middle of his friend Brittany's fucked up story regarding human trafficking. Something that hurts millions of women.
Then Morgan's story about feeling self conscious something that alot of women feel is spilt apart by some stupid packaging "drama"
It honestly did feel out of place but I was interested in her personal perspective of beauty influences since she isn't one at all. And it just…ended with J* saying that he doesn't go to events anymore :) and all those girls are just insecure :)
Holy fuck, I forgot about that video. Watching somebody talk in depth about an extremely disturbing, abusive
relationship, being afraid for her and her family's life, and then having a sudden jump cut to Shane and his buddies sitting around a chuck e cheese pizza was fucking surreal
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same fag, this is the actual final product that was the color story. Still pretty boring
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>>886500>and while yes the company "is paying her so it doesnt matter"
and I mean, let's not pretend like Jeffree has a great track record of paying artists/designers or treating them well. The whole reason the KVD/Jefree explosion happened was due in part to Jeffree outright stealing his entire logo from a tattoo artist Kat recommended. (Or at least that's the reason she gave to blow it up. She's a cunt too but at least she got that dude paid)>>886519>Ya'll always forget to link the video
it's cause none of us actually want to watch this shit
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shane's really convinced his fans he's struggling for money while also living in a mansion.
He showed Lolcow screenshots in the Graveyardgirl series and her thread was never very active, I'm sure he watches this one>>886483
That yellow is so ugly and looks so out of place, nobody liked his food videos or those ugly yellow thumbnails, I really can't understand why they kept that in. I'm glad they brought the greens back as they were some of the most interesting, but I still wouldn't buy this just because he's releasing this 9 part "docuseries" that is literally an ad of his products all the while complaining about how he doesn't make as many millions as he would hope.
This is all just.. really disappointing. I've casually watched his videos throughout the years but now I'm starting to see just how much of this is bullshit. He's followed trends like music videos, a diss track, trying to do movies and releasing books but now going into makeup and trying to prove "no guise I'm like actually passionate about makeup" and playing the I'm so poor card from his mansion.. It's just the most obvious cash grab and it's depressing so many people are playing along with it
Damn, this is ugly. The only "interesting" color is that highlighter yellow, but it makes no sense. Really uninspired, but you know that shit is going to sell out because fans will buy it.>>886594
Honestly, not surprised Ryland is pissed when his future husband spends all his time metaphorically stroking some other dude's dick for clout.
I'm probably repeating everyone but this is basically JS but in black? Nothing about this says Shane Dawson and it looks Hot Topic Cheap. I'm sorry but it's really boring and all the hype for those colors? No thank you.
I prefer the pig lips set, at least is more "on brand" with what Shane is.>>886594
Yeah I noticed. And he got the most boring color too.
The fact that this man has millions, and has the ugliest home (and it’s always trashed) in the history of ever is so fucking funny to me. Like, it’s so truly representative of him as a person. >>886501
I agree. I think the t.v. was really cute/creative. >>886491
As he demonstrated, he smokes and puts shit together. Rich people can do anything, call it “art” or “creative” and people eat it up.
I honestly think the box is fine ? Yeah, it's similar to Blood Sugar and Blue Blood, but I liked the design of those, so I think it looks good.
The colors, though…wtf. I'll wait til swatches to make a judgment, but that ugly yellow, light green, and light blue I feel like are going to be patchy and universally unflattering.
nta but it’s speculation/probably just an off handed comment
j* likely doesn’t adopt his dogs from anything other than a breeder/puppy mill probably due to the fact that they’re a specialty breed
like it’s hard to believe he’s going to a pound when he just so happens to be snatching up a new designer Pomeranians whenever he gets a dog.
jeff didnt start claiming gay until nate came on the scene which corresponds with jeffree star cosmetic becoming a hit. jeff always claimed he was bi. now shane sees a chance to become a beautytuber as well so he is going for it. same thing. plus shane originally was a motivational/weightloss tuber. thats why he has such a devoted fanbase. >>886184
i think shane was zinging jeff with the hot topic comment. he has to know jeff worked with them before. >>886192
yes he did but pretended it was a joke. he referred to himself as a bitch. you could tell he was serious. like he wanted the room to agree.>>886226
agree. plus she isnt a creative designer. everything she presented looks just like something else. no original hints. >>886248
yeah, since we all know he was just going to chose the cheapest one.>>886269
nayrt but there are tiers of designers. a top tier designer should be able to drag an idea out of a client. if the client has to verbalize everything then all they need is a drafter not a designer. there is a reason why bobby trendy is still in business. if you learn how to help clients then you will never be broke. >>886348
if nate cared then jeffree would get rid of him. I do think jeffree likes him better then his past relationships though. because is the first one he has been 100% upfront about. jeff treated his last boyfriend so bad the guy wont speak his name. then jeff kissed a woman claiming he was bi.
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So am I crazy, or is the big palette a lot like Alien, only with less dull-looking shades? It's like they know how crap Alien was and are trying to fix it, but the similarity makes it feel half-assed.
I have to say, though, I'm into the mini Controversy palette. I don't like Shane or Jeff, never bought any of his makeup, but I'd consider buying that if I could be sure the makeup quality would actually be nice.
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Idk what do you all think? Obviously the shades are different, it's just that Alien is a muddy-looking mess and Conspiracy has a similar feel but a little less muddy.
I get that this is his first pallet or whatever but just looking at the stamps makes me want to throw up with how all over the place the themes are, at least jeffrey kept to one theme with the alien thing
Shanes looks like a gargled mess with the pigs, illuminati, and vsco beauty guru slang
He should have either done just one pallet and picked one theme and only had three different stamps that related to that theme, or three different pallets each with their own theme and three different stamps related to their themed pallet, not throw them all together without making any sense
You can tell that Shane doesn't use makeup, because most of the shades have this weird white-base that will probably make the shadows look very chalky kek.
How is this even the final product? What is Jeffree's team doing?!
Yeah I mean, are you kidding? Where else do you think he's getting like 47 immaculate pomeranian puppies? Like >>886648
said there's no fucking way he's "adopting" those, and I bet they're thousands of dollars each. At least Shane's dogs are adopted.>>886649>Not when he got engaged, not when they bought that big ass house to maybe start a family.
I mean, he's only been sitting around in a robe and torn shirt not bathing for days on end and putting out a video every 6 months, when would he have possibly had the time anon?!>>886578>That yellow is so ugly and looks so out of place, nobody liked his food videos or those ugly yellow thumbnails, I really can't understand why they kept that in.
that color is "pissbottle" uwu (jk the orange or brown is probably closer to that color, that man hasn't had a drop of water in his entire life probably) >>886379
nta but how is this "blog" but >>886226
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Tbh the problem is too many greys & beige paired with garish loud colors. That aside, Shane has no business in makeup, it’s like giving your greasy uncle a palette. Hopefully he will stop pretending to be poor after the amount of money he will make from this.
The pictures would've been better with anyone else BUT Jeffree and Shane.
How is Jeffree 30 something but he always looks like he's Betty White's 60 year old half sister or something?
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>>886704>most of the shades have this weird white-base that will probably make the shadows look very chalky kek
I mean honestly more than half of those shades aren't even going to show up on the white girls that are going to buy this. Jeffree's been marketing exclusively to white people his entire career, so he should know better by now.
I don't even understand this marketing. Mad scientist? Is that what they're going for? What does that have to do with conspiracies or Shane? Shane's "conspiracy" "content" is about mismatched pizza and children, where's that marketing theme? Also what a dream if Jeffree actually shut his goddamn mouth for a minute. >>886720
Gotta admit Shane and the tinfoil hat did make me chuckle (but again he doesn't even really cover UFO type stuff does he?). I think if you cropped this to just Shane (same tinfoil hat, pig, stare, etc) surrounded him with empty Root Beer cans and Cheetos (or ~unbranded cheese puffs~) and instead had him looking at a screen in a dark room with the light reflecting on his face, THAT would be the correct marketing picture. I don't even mean that in a bad way, I think that would capture all the elements of what he's going for, like the theme of>I've gone fallen down a youtube rabbit hole and have been watching videos for days straight which you can tell by the amount of cans by me, and now I believe everything hence the tinfoil hat
But of course Shane has to be in the background and the entire focus NEEDS to be on Jeffree. Anyways, can't wait for the Jeffree x Alex Jones palette. >>886725>>886731
I like it at first glace but the more I stare at it the less it makes sense aesthetically. Nothing about Jeffree's outfit or look makes sense with the setting or the rest of the picture. It's just his ham-fisted way of of shoving >GUYS don't forget I'm androgenous and etherial, where's my dick in this picture?? that's the mystery [x-files theme]
down everyone's throats 24/7. It would make more sense if they did like a Mulder (Shane) and Scully (Jeffree) type photoshoot if "aliens & tinfoil" is really the marketing they're going for. Nitpick but even though Jeffree has a shade called "X-Files" in his Alien palette and Shane claims to be the king of conspiracy theories, I don't get the vibe either of them have seen an episode. Which is like….if you're going to try and take on "Conspiracy" as a brand, pay the proper respects. Or they could pay homage to Twilight Zone maybe, since they're ripping off the "spirals = spooky!!!!" theme from them already. (Not that any of their teenage fans would get what any of that was. Anyways, Jeffree loves ripping off ideas so if they end up doing any of that then we'll know for sure they read here lmao)
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Morgan and Ryland really can't be happy for Shane. It was painful watching them react to his products for the first time
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we all know Ryland is a jealous bitch but I'm actually shocked how Garth was way more excited for the reveal than Shane's own fiance
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Jeffree does have that alien vibe going on but Shane looks like the special needs brother that had to come along on the photo shoot
I haven't seen the video but it's possible it's not their real first reaction. I imagine they would be really up to date with all the annoying details already so filming the reveal for them might have just been for the doc.
I mean not that they still shouldn't pretend to be excited but I can't imagine caring after hearing about the drama of each shade being approved from shane.
>>886681>Shanes looks like a gargled mess with the pigs, illuminati, and vsco beauty guru slang
That's how I feel: pick a theme and stick with it. Root beer, cheese dust, Trisha Paytas, pigs etc don't belong in a conspiracy palette, Jeffree really dropped the ball for guidance. At least he told Shane a soda can trunk was a bad idea, like the fuck? You didn't like the TV box but you suggest a soda can? Okay Shane. >>886824
This is hilarious. They both look like something out of Zoolander lmao.
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Ok sorry, is Ryland "only with Shane because he's money hungry and doesn't love him" or is he "a jealous bitch because he loves Shane"? because those two ideas completely contradict each other. The Ryland hate here makes zero sense. I agree with >>886822
, that looks like the face of two people who are thinking "you've made our lives miserable with this disgusting man for over a year for THIS shit?
GOD I just hate everything about this image. Horrifying. Jeffree looks like he's literally trying to turn Shane into Nate? With the overfiltering and makeup and the fuckboy anime hair. It's chilling, it's like you can see him being groomed. Jeffree looks like that one fucking shinigami from Death Note.
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and Shane looks like that one internet explorer pokemon dude
I wish they would've either just gone with a Shane palette, or gone all in on the conspiracy theme. I think I'd prefer the latter. It could actually be a super cool concept, but forcing in the random Shane-related things takes away any cohesion.
Idk why they're pushing that conspiracy theories are Shane's big thing. He hasn't done a conspiracy video in a while and even when he did, I feel like that was never the main thing he was known for. I associate Shane with edgy YouTube sketches and vlog style videos with friends before I think of conspiracy theories. He was always really surface level with those videos anyway. He'd just briefly talk about some basic ones he probably saw on Reddit or something and say stuff like "Ooh that one gave me chills!"
They actually could've gone with controversy as the theme for the main and mini palette. That would at least make the Shane/Jeffree crossover make more sense considering they're both fairly controversial.
Oh my lord. That palette is so underwhelming. The colors don't go together, it screams "Jeffree" but not "Shane" and the colors are legit the same as in Alien.
Those pictures are absolutely hideous. I can't understand how people can stan those two terrible humans and gladly give them their/their parent's money.
I don't mind any of the individual elements, but together it looks like such a mess. The palette shoop is especially poor.
In the first place, when was the last time Shane has made a real conspiracy video? The Chuck E Cheese bullshit doesn't count in my book, and the rest of his videos in the past two years have been Exposés (using that term loosely) on other YouTubers. The photos also make it look like a green/brown/blue palette, but that's…not at all what it is?
So what was so "beautiful" about the world of Jeffree?
This fucking Doc didn't even focus on Jeffree and when it did it was all Business.
So I guess it did try to show us what it looks like when two rich gay dudes, both huge on youtube make an product that will sell out regardless.
I also love how they aren't going to talk about James Charles.
Shane should’ve just focused on either personal life or just business of Star. Blending them both is confusing mood and and tone. Like that one scene where they were cutting between things like people talkIng about being anxious or insecure with loud screaming about palletes or some shit. It’s emotional whiplash.
Honestly he could’ve easily salvaged jefrees godawful attitude online by separating the business/personal life completely. Have Jeffree act completely different at work and working on the pallete as this no bullshit bitch he tries to be and tie it in with his behavior on YT and Twitter. He’s just a bitch on job.
Then cut to his “personal life” off camera and “candid” where he is acting like a normal human and make the case that he never meant anything he did or said, it wasnt reflective of his own personal thoughts.
And bam fans eat it up and everyone sells out of their underwhelming make up.
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Got this cap from GG
He needs to talk to his ass digging friend Shane who put both MANNY AND JAMES CHARLES in the trailer.
THATS why people want drama. Because yall promoted it as drama.
All the crying and surpised O faces.
That specific comment especially triggers
him, I see. Well at least it's confirmed now that this is where Shane got his influence to be an asshat pissbaby to his fans. Seriously, how do people who outright treat their fans this way still maintain support?
Jeffree has always claimed to like men. He claimed to be bisexual in the early day’s of his career, but a lot of his shock value phrasing has always been around sucking dick/being gay.
Jeffree has never claimed to be straight, lmfao.>>887135
Jeffree’s entire career is made off his drama. He lives in constant drama. Why is he angry about his own doing?
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Kek, lemme guess this is deleted by now? This is Jeffree's time old refrain of>i don't do drama uwu minding my own business in my own lane uwu i don't have time for that uwu only the truth only luv uwu
when he's literally the instigator of like, 40% of all Beauty Guru drama and a massive bully.
Speaking of which, I randomly checked Jeffree's trademarks the other day (because one of the ways he loves to threaten/bully people is with trademark shit) and he has filed "Conspiracy" and "Controversy" about a week apart. I kind of think there might still be a "woe is me" Jeffree story they're working on about the drama, and I think possibly the "plot twist" ending of this dumb ordeal is that he releases a Controversy palette along side Shane's Conspiracy one (or shortly after it). I'm dumb and I don't understand anything about the legalese of this (so maybe some smort anon does) but "Conspiracy" shows as live and owned by Jeffree but rejected or unresolved (as of 10/10/2019) in the details. I wonder if this had anything to do with the delays in getting the series out?
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(samefag) Here's some other recent phrases. "Blood Money" (Manny/etc?) and "Fuck Proof" (James?) certainly feel like they would fit the Controversy theme. "Fuck Proof" is interesting because I assume this has to do with you know, the giant pile of proof constantly popping up against him that he always claims is fake, and especially all the receipts James provided. "Fuck Proof" is probably going to be his new rallying cry for when people show up with actual proof of his racism/terrible behavior and he claims it's fake or sweeps it under the rug. FP says it's a mascara, so if not an entire palette right away, then at least he can shove a mascara in with this Shane series and promise more of a Conspiracy palette or makeup to come.
Conspiracy and Controversy were both trademarked by Jeffree for Shane's pallettes. He has two, remember? The big one (Conspiracy) and the mini one (Controversy). He says he trademarked both names in the series itself FOR Shane.>>887146
This screenshot is interesting, though. Seems he's definitely gearing up for another project very soon after Shane's palette so he ride on the hype momentum that's going strong. When are the exact dates on these? Wonder how long since they started production. I mean he could have definitely been working on Shane's project at the same time as other projects, he has a large enough company at this point, right?
Sorry you're right, I missed that (but also calm down, it was an easy thing to miss, they've been sperging about Conspiracy!!!11!!! the whole time). I wonder why Controversy got the trademark pass and Conspiracy didn't though. Controversy makes much less sense for Shane and much more sense for Jeffree. He should've done it so that when people have to google "Jeffree Star Controversy" every other day his eyeshadow palette would come up instead of his racist remarks. Here's the list if you wanna peep them individually:https://www.trademarkia.com/company-jeffree-star-cosmetics-inc-4793896-page-1-2
Also according to that site "So Pigmented" (Manny's catchphrase that he trademarked in an act of pettiness) is dead? So Manny can apply for that now if he wants I guess lmao
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This just in: Jake and Tana hungry for attention, desperate to ride coat tails, what else is new? Clearly their "relationship" is fake, but they really are perfect for each other from a business relationship.
>the ppl that saved our careers
So shouldn't they just both be Shane? Seems like a reach stretch to say that Jeffree saved Tana's career just by making fun of her in one of his vids back in the day. They don't seem like they're even on good terms anymore after they did that one collab years ago.
(Including the cat in the costume is pretty funny though)
The Shane Dawson slob look with the cat is actually funny
That and Tana showing off her tits while her costume is woman hating Jeffree(?) is great.
Is this supposed to be ironic? I feel some sarcasm from this pic ngl
Im also pretty sure the person he snapped is a stan of his. So imagine if for whatever reason you stanned Jeffree Star and he acknowledges you JUST to humiliate you.
Because you asked a question about drama that was in the fucking trailer,from one of the BIGGEST drama hungry hags in the make up community.
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They really have been filming this shit for 8+ months and they're still putting out last minute shoddily edited episodes? And then Shane always shows up on Twitter looking sad and tired and whiney because he's been "working soooo hard to get content out for us you guys we just need a little bit more time :((( pity me" and his fangirls scream "leave Shane alone omg he's working so hard for us!!". Genuinely what have you been doing for the past 8 months if you're still filming/editing right now?
Honestly I used to like Andrew and think he was a qt but I think he's just probably just as shitty as Shane at this point. Like Shane being completely incompetent is one thing, but what's the point of having a "cameraman/editor/whatever" working with you if he's just as incompetent? Shouldn't he know how to plan ahead and know the timeline by now if that's literally his job?>>887285
I mean, I think it's supposed to be ironic yes, but sarcastic no. Apparently it's part of her recent vid, I haven't watched it though so I have no idea their actual reactions to it. I'm sure Jeffree is absolutely disgusted by it, and Nate is probably way more into that than he's ever been to Jeffree.
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It's still down I'm calling bullshit(on them saying later omg we never knew it was going to be this big)because they know how retarded his fans are and they knew shit was going to sell out they should have been prepared for the launch.
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I'm laughing because everything isn't sold out on morphe.
Few bags aren't sold out the pig mirror isnt and omg matlip isnt sold out.
Now Shane's going to go from being a "poor millionaire" to an "Like other girls millionaire"
Congrats internet!! You did it! I'm seeing people saying they don't even use make up but they are going to buy it to support shane.
Imagine, sitting at your computer, in a dorm room or in shitty one room apartment and you're like, "I'm going to support Shane Dawson!!" a fucking millionaire.
Imagine thinking him crying in a ball of funk and sweat in clothes he hasn't changed, is about anything BUT money.
Especially since Jeffree's team did all the fucking work.
>>887455>Jeffree is a man whose shown hate towards women his WHOLE fucking career but makes money from women
Jefree has said horrible things about women,about gay men,about lesbians and about black people.
Yet these people still keep on supporting him when jeffree looks down on them and views them as inferior.
Jeffree is such a tacky, unprofessional cunt. This whole series has basically been one drawn out ad for their palette, Im glad she asked because it's been boring me to tears. They were totally teasing drama and so far it's been tumbleweeds. >>887156
Kek. I'm not surprised they are blatantly clout chasing, they know they're careers aren't going to last much longer.
That definitely isn't coincidental.
They're filming this and what better drama than "oMg!!1 its launchtime and the website to0tally broke because we got 3738407 orders at once… what a disaster, I never would've thought this would happen"
I actually feel sorry for all the braindead people that threw their money onto these two money-hungry faggots and nervously waited in line hoping to get the collection.
He's money hungry and only with him for money, he's jealous not bc he loves him but he feels threatened in his spot by jeffree/being displaced'
nobody would give a shit about ryland if he wasnt with shane, period.
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I love how the Ryland shade looks awful on Ryland.
God, I cannot stand Jeffree. He's rich and the tackiest person on the planet. He's wasteful and fake- and he literally only wears gucci. Which is essentially a 'upper middle class' rich person brand, for people who want to seem rich, because poorer people don't seem to get that it's not actually a quality brand.
He buys expensive items just to destroy them. He claims his opinion cant be bought because he's rich, then lets people buy his opinion.
He's ugly and tacky and his makeup is shit. People always try to excuse their own support of a racist bc the makeup is good. My friend bought a pallette of his secondhand (blue blood) and a few liquid lipsticks. The eyeshadows didn't last more than an hour without creasing and the liquid lipsticks were watery and didn't last.
Not only that but he acts morally superior because he tricks people into trusting him and then betrays them with their secrets. Also attacking James (who I also think is shit) over 'going for straight guys' when his boyfriend is an ugly straight fuckboy he has to fly in women to bone.
Shane's fake poverty act is annoying. His conspiracy theories were his only good videos. I didn't care about his stupid mouth popping dessert videos or weird shit. He makes me so uncomfortable, he's like a neckbeard who somehow tricked people into thinking he's a comedian. He think's being disgusting is a personality. Not to mention how much he obviously wants to bone jeffree/become his sugar baby
Ryland is moneyhungry and obsessed with being famous. He's obsessed with status, and he looks like an adult baby. His clothes are hilariously terrible and every video he makes is cringe-inducing.
Morgan, same deal as Ryland, to a lesser extent. It seems that she's getting more annoyed with the 'pig squad.' Probably because she's tired of them hanging around Jeffree, who makes no secret of how much he hates women.
Garrett is the only one whose content I still enjoy, probably because he tries to keep it so positive. I am really sad that he feels like he has to pretend to be whole gay bc of shane tho
Doesn't help that Jeff definitely wants to fuck Garrett, which explains why Shane's been shunning him out.
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They’re fucking delusional.
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Samefag as this but none of the colors look fucking good together. She said they looked ~so good together~ but they don't mesh together at all, obviously. And she really put that shimmery green with the brown and the - ugh, that fucking yellow looks garbage. Shit, I don't even wear eyeshadow and can tell this is bad, I need to hear the more detailed comments from anons who do. I just think no good looks could be made from just this palette by itself.
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>>887613>>887587>I think he didn't like that Garrett didn't listen to him when he said not to touch anything when they were in the lab. That's why Garrett hasn't been around, because Jeffree has banned him.
Nah, they were interacting still after that series, and Garrett seems like he's been backing off for a while now. I think if anything Jeffree was probably butthurt that Garrett didn't want to fuck him. Why would he? Garrett's a gay man who likes men, and Jeffree doesn't resemble a man in any way. I think also maybe because Garrett doesn't seem like he could be bought the way Jeffree's "friends" usually could? If you've seen any of Garrett's videos about his past/present apartments he moved from one garbage one-bedroom apartment to another garbage one-bedroom apartment (in someone's backyard iirc?), and he doesn't have expensive or nice things. If money was important to Garrett he could easily just put out more than like…2 videos a year. I think Shane's probably ruined Andrew and Garrett's friendship a bit as well.
It also seems clear to me that Garrett's mental health has not been in the best place. He also clearly has body/weight insecurities, and I'm sure being around Shane didn't help that. He doesn't seem like he's super active on twitter/the youtube community these days, but he does appear to be active on reddit in weight loss progress threads. So, I would guess he's just trying to guess he's trying to get away from Shane's mental health black hole and actually do something to feel better instead of sitting around whining about hating his body like Shane does.
I know we're salty as fuck but come on, the makeup does NOT look bad. The pink and purple side looks nice and blended and go well together. My only gripe is the yellow. It's out of place and ugly. And the brown side has NO depth whatsoever ever. It looks like she just used one shade of brown and threw the shimmer on it.
As someone who uses make up a lot I feel that there are too many light colors and not enough transition colors. The shade Tanacon is completely irrelevant especially against the root beer color.
I've never liked Jefree from the get go. I knew of him back in Myspace and now he's just grim. Never liked him and never will.
I like Shane back in the early days of his career and up till 2011 at the most. Now he's in it for the cash. Can't watch him anymore.
I just think the overall majority of them are just gross. I can't wait for the day Youtube eventually just strives to a new audience and these die out.
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ntayrt but I mean, yeah it looks fine. Just fine, $52 (+$28) worth? nah. At some points it looks patchy/chalky, and that grey/gold(?) color she uses on the right still looks…sludgey. Like, it's not a good color.
I would never trust an eyeshadow review from someone who thinks THIS is a good look either way. Like, I mean if you're showing off how amaaaazing the eyeshadows are, why the need to glue shit to your face and wear bright red lipstick and a distracting shirt and 700 earrings to prove that? I don't watch Nikki but are her looks usually this clownish?
Dunno what you're smoking but it's pretty muddy and not blending well. And Nikki is an awful example to go off of since she filters nearly as much as JC>>887633
I always got the impression Garrett is bi plays up the gay angle to not get kicked from the group. Not uncommon for a bi guy
if you consider her shadow to be that
fucking bad then i urge you to go outside more often. anons love to exaggerate when in reality if you saw someone sporting the brown look especially you wouldn’t stop in your tracks because it’s ~oH sO MudDy!!~
The pink and purple do not blend nicely at all. I'd this is what it looks like with all the light boxes and filters Nikki uses, it must look like dollar store makeup IRL.>>887680
Nobody in their right mind wears these kind of looks outside.
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He looks dead inside, jesus. His face says "yeah I know it looks like shit". Other than the hot pink and the red (the colors you could get from literally any makeup line), none of these shades work work on any skintone? To be fair to Ryland that color looks terrible on him because it will look terrible on everyone. >>887675
Have you watched much of Garrett's content? I honestly can't imagine anyone thinking he's bi, especially when he's been so hopelessly pining after Andrew for years. I guess he and Morgan were kind of cutesy together back in the day, but even then that always just seemed like Morgan having a crush on a clearly gay man because he was nice to her>>887680
nta but what the fuck are you talking about? I would absolutely stop in my tracks if I saw someone with that eyeshadow because her eyeshadow is almost touching her hairline. I wouldn't even get to the part where I thought it was muddy because I would be too distracted by the fact that she looks like a fucking clown. >anons love to exaggerate
no, beauty gurus love to exaggerate, literally no one would ever wear their eyeshadow like that outside of their house. The only normies that wear eyeshadow like that are people who work at Ulta/Sephora and even then it looks dumb and it's unwearable outside of that situation
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oh no worries guys the $30 Nate pillow ISN'T sold out though, so we can all still grab one of those, whew
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The Jeffree star cosmetic palettes all look awful to me with only a few decent shades in each. The Shane palette just doesn't make sense to me at all.
Funny how Shane mentioned he feared it would look too hot topic-y. It all looks like juvenile crap.
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Did anyone see this? Shane is so fucking pathetic. He's a grown ass 30 year old man throwing a temper tantrum.
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Well Vox released this article yesterday so it's still going on apparently but they're not acknowledging it in any way (I don't follow JC so I didn't know this was going on). This is so typical Jeffree. I doubt JC's new palette was trying to crash with Shane's considering it sure seems like there was no realistic timeline for Shane's hot mess, but even if it was honestly good for James. Shane and Jeffree completely fucked him over with the whole Tati thing, there's no way that wasn't completely orchestrated by Jeffree because Jeffree was releasing all his shit with Morphe right afterwards and he clearly couldn't handle the idea of him not being the star of the Morphe line. Jeffree had to skulk away with his tail between his legs and do his usual "guise no more drama" song and dance after JC's video showed how awful he was. Shane should be ashamed of himself for the part he played in it, the least they could do is call of their attack dogs.
Anyways, the article isn't a scathing review or anything, but it's ridiculously refreshing to see people even remotely calling out the bullshit>“As much as people want to say that Shane Dawson is really authentic and they’re making this video showing the behind-the-scenes of the fashion industry, it’s just a six-part commercial for the palette,” Maggie Mae Fish, a YouTuber and actress who has examined YouTube’s beauty scene, told The Verge. “Shane positions it as, ‘We’re actually here to tear down the roles of this industry,’ but you’re here to sell your palette.>But Dawson’s series is structured to fight this, making you sympathize with the challenges he’s faced selling merch in the past. Being ripped off by merchandise vendors and frustrations over not being more successful, especially compared to younger creators, is a consistent theme. By the time the fourth episode, “The $20 Million Dollar Deal with Jeffree Star,” happens, fans are made to feel like even though Dawson is new to this world, he deserves to be compensated.https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/1/20936459/shane-dawson-jeffree-star-conspiracy-palette-james-charles-morphe-youtube-beauty>>887793>my pills
I know he means his antidepressants/xanax or whatever but what a cool thing that's being marketed to his teenage fans. Also I bet Jeffree was butthurt that the "Trisha" shade wasn't name after him instead.
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lol this shit is only useful as halloween clown makeup.
should've released it week earlier.
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Bless you for pulling this out anon. If these were smaller youtubers Jeffree would for sure threaten them with legal action and try and claim defamation or something lmao. Nate probably came watching this.
ngl I thought their Britney/Justin look was cute. Jake & Tana are interesting because they're in the same realm as Trisha at this point where they're like>white trash cows but they know they're white trash cows and fully embrace it and monetize it
So you can't really make fun of them. You could make fun of Jake when he was with whatsherface from Shane's series because he was trying to pretend he was a human being, but with Tana he's just dropped that completely and embraced his true trash form. I'm not even mad about it. I get a little bit of a nostalgia buzz from them, they're so reminiscent of the trashy MTV party kids of the early 2000's.>>887887
Ick, it's all just so awful. And they're all approximately the same because no one can do anything nice with these colors. Top left is the only one that looks good imo, but maybe it's because she's not white so those colors actually turn up nice on her
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Are people for real with this shit?>>887793
Man I remember when Beauty Killer came out and everyone was going apeshit over it and I was confused because it was ugly and unwearable as hell. Seeing them all together they have 0 cohesion except maybe Blood Sugar. I don't know how J hits so hard with some stuff but consistently falls short with his eyeshadows. >>887879
JC's a little shit but at least his palette is versatile and wearable without being party store clown makeup.
At least James Charles Kris Kardashian looking ass WEARS make up somewhat regularly. Shane's the millionaire whose picking his ass in planes and thinking it's fucking funny.
I can't stand James but I'd buy make up from an gay dude who actually wear it then someone who makes mental illness look like a fucking theme and being gross "relatable"
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This is really the best makeup Shane could do for a giant Morphe event for the launch of his own palette.
jesus christ they both look awful.
why didn't lipstick nick do shane's makeup? he put in zero effort
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Oh jesus, they must be at the Mall of America, there’s a Morphe store there.
Honest to god every time I walk past the Morphe store at MoA with the giant Jeffree posters I think “oh, it might be fun to kind of poke around and see what they have in there” but I’ve never actually gone in because every single time I can see there’s not a soul in there other than one employee at the register and the thought of having that one Morphe employee breathe down my neck or stand there and watch me not buy anything seems like too much of a nightmare. It's been there for a while now and I don't think I've ever seen a customer in there. (We also have a Nyx store and a Mac store and an Ulta in the MoA. And you know what Ulta sells in that store? Nyx, Morphe, and Mac. It’s fucking stupid, anyways)
Look at all the shit on Shane's jacket. Did he wear a dirty one or is he somehow so much of a toddler that he can't keep his clothes clean for more than an hour? Christ. (trick question because he probably just wears that one jacket all the time and never washes it like he does with all of his other outfits, why would an important public appearance be any different?) One of Jeffree's wranglers should have babysat him.
God I feel like trash but I actually do / did use Beauty Killer as an everyday palette. Courtney is gorgeous and the gold pop is great.
That aside, I see why this palette has been popular but just looking on the Beautybay hashtag/twitter makes me glad I didn’t even consider buying
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poor shane and jeffree:(
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IDK why but this tweet is very heartbreaking to me, he has been giving out pallets to random strangers but he hasn't even gone and visit his mom. I know he hates his mom but once he started doing YouTube she has been nothing but supportive to him.>>887879
Im glad that they're not holding back on the article, almost every c-list news site is kissing their ass saying how amazing it is and that they're doing amazing things by selling out and filling malls.All while people on line are complaining that they're going to be poor because they're supporting and million and billionaire.
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Shane retweeted this and I just went down the saddest rabbit hole of this kid's twitter. I knew Gavin was like "that one meme kid" or whatever, but his mom has clearly been using him for access to celebs she cares about. (Jeffree Star, Jonas Brothers, Billie Eilish). Why on earth would an 8 year old boy care about an eyeshadow palette? >>888094>>888105
Yeah, since when does he hate his mom?
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He literally made this character as away to over exaggerate her,(if you remember he treated his mom character like shit) and in a lot of his old vlogs he would constantly shade and speak I'll of her while quickly brushing it off as a "oh hahaha just gotta speak to my therapist" joke.
The collection came out yesterday, of course you're not going to have your product yet. It takes time to ship things.
If he paid by card, he can do a chargeback if the products don't arrive. This sounds like a plea for attention from Shane, she should be contacting Beauty Bay to get it worked out.
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>>887879>Many claimed they were only going to buy Dawson’s palette to support him; others called out Charles’ product for not being as good
Jeffree and Shane's fans are so fucking brainwashed. BOTH of the palettes are made by Morphe. If they're insulting Charles' product they're insulting Shane's….because it's the same fucking product? And if they're buying Shane's to show support to him and not James….they're paying the same fucking company. Besides that Shane's product hadn't even been released yet, so how could they possibly say Shane's was better quality?>>887966>I can't stand James but I'd buy make up from an gay dude who actually wear it then someone who makes mental illness look like a fucking theme and being gross "relatable"
I mean I don't like any of 'em, but anyone with any common sense would buy James' over Shane's. If you took the branding off them both there's no empirical reason why Shane's is the better choice.>Shane x Jeffree: 18 Shades, $52>James Charles: 39 Shades, $39>Shane x Jeffree Mini: 9 (different) shades, $28 >James Charles Mini: 39 Shades (same palette but smaller) $26
Cost to obtain all shades:>Shane (27 Shades): $80>James (39 Shades): $26
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>>887966>>888282>James is a shit head but he actually wears make up>I can't stand James but I'd buy make up from an gay dude who actually wear it
I disagree, THIS is the type of artistry
I'm looking for in someone designing my makeup. What about this lewk doesn't inspire confidence? For a mere $52 you too could look like this!
If I had to choose, I'd buy James if I were to waste my money on their crap.
but ALL their shit, from Jeffree (esp. Jeffree) to Shane and James, sometimes looks like either, Dollar store children's easter basket filler make up, or just some shit you get off of Wish.
Especially those scams of mirrors. People are really spending a shit ton for mirrors. I would NOT be surpised if most of their make up was Rite aids, drugstore cheap brands, wrapped in plastic with tiny formula changes.
Morphe literally said they knew James wanted to release his palette around the same time and pushed it up a bit, it was a business decision from the brand. James doesnt get to make those decisions he doesnt own his makeup line.
If anything you should look at other well timed releases before/after this from J "friends" as that he did himself off screen. 100% this ends with holiday collection from J
Eh it looks like a typical morphe palette thats resembles the "pro" palettes that mua get. Morphe stuff is all the same.
I actually like most of his other palettes because although the color layouts are messy, I can see at least a number of looks you can pull from each one. Looking at the shane one I'm just completely stumped. >>888029
Jeffree did him dirty letting him be photographed like that. He's literally in a cum-stained tracksuit with yesterday's faded makeup still on his face.
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Sage bc it's not milk per see but I've seen tons of viral tweets like this one calling them out on their bs
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Bless your heart, it's not going to work this time either. People have been trying for a decade to take him down and it never works, hence the "Fuck Proof" bullshit. James was the chosen one, he was the only one with comparable power/following and he had the receipts, and even he pulled his punches at the end. If it came down to just Jeffree vs. James I think he could have done it, but Jeffree ambushed him with the full force of Jeffree + Tati + Shane armies (though Shane loves to act like he's impartial and had nothing to do with it no drama uwu). Jeffee/Tati's "proof" against James was "dude trust me" at best, he had rock solid receipts of their behavior and it still didn't work. See >>882667
for the full list of hate crimes.>>888383
Well, in the Bunny series he made it clear he couldn't fly without xanax (for "comedic effect" obviously) so if they flew in that day on their ~private jet~ he very well could have been still fucked up on xanax. Though, he's never really been one to do meet and greets or make giant public appearances with hoards of screaming girls (but I think Jeffree does pretty frequently?). The dude barely leaves his house so it wouldn't surprise me if Jeffree made him do it and he had to be fucked up to get through that as well.
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Oh yeah, people are definitely trying. I’ve seen this post make its rounds, kek. But anywhere you go the white knights come out and say shit like “wow the jealousy jumped out” and use the same recycled excuse of “but they were racist ten years ago!”
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Kek, that's pretty good. Reminds me of when KVD came out as anti-vax and she got dragged. >“but they were racist ten years ago!”
The Jeffree whiteknights are unlike any other I swear. When those caps came out of Jeffree calling Jackie Aina a gorilla and the n-word (like, last year) and we tried to talk about it it the makeup thread honest to god "anons" came out of nowhere saying shit like>I mean I think you guys are overreacting being racist isn't even that big of a deal?>Ok but Jackie Aina is a bitch so what's the problem here>These caps seem fake I'm just not buyin it
And then Shane gave him that whole fucking sob story series where he got to cry over it and say>guys if you had actually been there when I was screaming the n-word in public you would have known that I was actually yelling it at white women?? so it's not racist actually, i'm actually the victim here if you think about it
Like he fucking apologized for it on his channel and then UN-apologized for it in Shane's series and basically made it seem like WE should be the ones apologizing to him for thinking he was racist in that clip where he was screaming the n-word. It's just unfuckingbelievable. I still wish mods would take a hard stance on the Jeffree stans. Can you IMAGINE if people went into the Onion thread like>I mean I think you guys are overreacting being a pedophile isn't even that big of a deal?>Ok but [insert victim here] is a bitch so what's the problem here>These caps seem fake I'm just not buyin it
and mods letting that slide? Jeffree is just as bad as Onion and has just as long a list of offenses>>888448
I'll be impressed if you can find it, he usually threatens legal action against those types of videos or sends his flying monkeys to destroy the poor person's career
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Oh, I saw that pop up in BeautyGuruChatter. I didn't watch it because it was 27 mins long (and I also don't actually read BeautyGuruChatter enough to know where they stand on J* and if I should trust them) but skimming the comments at the time did seem promising. (This one made me chuckle.)
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Also Jenna posted about it on insta today. I actually really like Jenna's look/content a lot the past 5 or so years, but gotdamn that awful pink lipstick is the same shade as "don't forget your hoochie lipstick" from a decade ago that didn't work on anyone then and doesn't work on anyone now. I feel like I can't even hold it against her necessarily because her whole schtick these days is that she's terrible at makeup. Also imagine using that many shades and barely any of it shows up
>Crease: Tanacon, Diet Root Beer
>Lids: Diet Cola
>Brow Bone: Ranch
>Lash Line: My Rides Here
>Lower Lash Line: Food Videos
ot maybe but I've always kind of felt like part of the reason she's survived/succeeded this long is because of how much she stays in her lane and away from other youtubers. For whatever reason though Shane has been the one youtuber I feel like she's always promoted and stayed "close" to? That just never made sense to me. I guess they're like youtube childhood friends at this point but still.
>>888484>I guess they're like youtube childhood friends at this point
this is probably it. both of them pretty much pioneered what youtube became so it makes sense that they'd be at least supportive of each other. jenna seems like a pretty nice person and i can't really picture her icing anyone out over a yucky palette or questionable associations, even if it's just to keep the peace.
but yeah that makeup is fucking a w f u l. that piss yellow shade is a fucking mistake, every picture i've seen of people trying to make it work with the rest of the palette looks SO bad.
Jame's pallette is definitely basic as far as the colors and layout are concerned but I wouldn't go so far as to say it looks as cheap as Shane's. Plus, given the fact that it's half the price of say it looks like you're getting your money's worth, and that's not even accounting for whether the formulas are decent or not. Regardless of your opinions on them as people I wouldn't say they're even comparable.>>888451
I can see where people might give a pass to someone making an off color joke here or there but the thing that makes Jeffree heinous is that he says and does those kinds of things with the express intent to hurt and belittle people. There's malicious intent behind his actions and that's what makes him a bad person more so that whatever he's said or the context it was said in.
My thing is Jeffree hasn't STOPPED being a shitty person, it's not like years ago he was this raging asshole, no, he KEEPS being a raging asshole.
Did people forget he accused James of being a pedophile? Said he needed to be locked up etc. etc.?
It's one thing to fuck up, like yeah, i still wouldn't like Jeffree but then the "he's changed" may be applicable.
but the dude fucking hasn't. He was threatening to beat up "instagram girls" or whatever he said that time.
He's a shitty person who never stops being shitty. He can't help it.
If they took out Trisha, Flaming Hot, Cheese Dust and Food Videos the color story would make way more sense, those bright ass obnoxious colors don't belong there. >>888041
SoOo PaSsIoNaTe about this project but can't take his granny track suit to the dry cleaners before a press junket? And then he smears one shade of eyeshadow on his lids and calls it a wrap. I can smell the passion from here and it reeks of unwashed entitled bullshit. >>888669>My thing is Jeffree hasn't STOPPED being a shitty person
That's how I feel. Everybody has done/said shitty things blah blah blah but how has Jeffree grown as a person? Because all I see is the same cow with more money and fake teeth.
And I know I'm going to sound like a massive dick but was anybody else rolling their eyes when Shane was like "OMG JEFFREE WTF? OMG OMG!" when he saw Jeffree's scars in his first series with him? I mean was anybody really
shocked to find out that Jeffree used to cut himself? We know he has issues, still doesnt make it okay for him to be a greedy,woman hating, racist cunt.
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Jeffree retweeted this, that shit looks soooo bad. Why is everyone doing these ridiculous clownish eyeshadow/eyeliner shapes with this? Like middle row and lower right >>887887
God this looks so bad, none of the colors match well. Honestly, why even buy this?
I agree with other anons, I'd 100% more likely buy a palette created by James Charles because he's been wearing makeup for a WAY longer time than Shane. Like, Shane even posted a year progress photo showcasing his makeup "skills". Looked like shit the end of last year, still looks like shit now. He needs to clean up his facial hair, that's for sure.
I skimmed them and my take away was:
Shane uses morgan as his only market research. Realises that she is pretty basic with her makeup and only uses neutrals in her palettes.
Decides he wants to make a wearable makeup palette for his teen fans, picks shades of mud and grey. Jeffrees team steps in and recommends some crazy colours so the palette doesnt end up being just some rehash of the original naked palette.
Jeffree suggests calling the pink shade trisha, and shanes says ok without much euthsiasm.
Somewhere along the line, they silently realise a lot of the shades and dhade names arent conspiracy related at all. So they make a mini controversy palette last min.
Jeffrees team bring merch samples for shane, he just spends the whole time saying, "wow, its good."
Shots of shane practicing makeup poorly to prove he is into makeup.
So 0 effort on all sides, got it. At least Shane sort of had the right idea going in when he wanted it to be wearable for teens, but of course Jeffree didn't want to put his name on a palette that didn't have at least a few clown colours.
Honestly I would've preferred a greigey neutral palette along the lines of Sleep Paralysis, Diet Cola and Spiralling with some greens like Illuminatea and Conspiracy. It'd be unique without being a naked palette dupe. Kinda seems like that's the direction Shane wanted to go anyway before hot pinks and piss yellows were added.