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No. 489545

Aight so there was a bunch of people interested in this in the Thread Requests so this is a thread to discuss particular MAPs you come across. General discussion on MAPs also welcome but please don't derail to infight with bait.

- What is a MAP?
A MAP is a Minor Attracted Person AKA a pedophile. These people generally campaign for empathy towards pedophiles and often imply it's a sexual orientation and, most strikingly, that it's not a bad trait. That kids can consent in the right situation and that sex with minors isn't inherently bad or traumatising if they enjoy it. Lots claim to be non-offending and believe you can be a harmless pedophile who doesn't offend.

Some terminology often used by these shit heads:
NOMAP: Non Offending Map
Anti: I've mostly seen this used as Anti-Contact, but sometimes as Anti-Pedophile from those opposing the community

exclusive: exclusively attracted to minors. non-exclusive means attracted to minors and people over the age of 18.

ephebophile: an adult who is sexually attracted to adolescents

hebephile: sexual interest by adults in pubescent (early adolescent) children (especially those showing Tanner stages 2-3 of development), which is typically ages 11–14.

Some tags or terms often used that you can search to find these scumbags, best used on tumblr or sometimes reddit:
MAP, NOMAP, map acceptance, map support, map safe space, real map support, pro map, minor attraction, minor attracted people, virtuous pedophile, anti nonmap, real map acceptance, non offending pedophile, non offending MAP, anti contact, minor attracted people.

Some links to get you angry:
"unapologetically a pedophile supporter".

A user who tells people on KIK that she is underage. The screenshots will nauseate you.

Piece of shit that makes me want to leave my own country, a MAP who posts and reblogs a lot from the community, so a good resource for long blocks of echo chamber text of people defending their spastic pedophilia with mental gymnastics and attitude.

One of the frilly special kawaii pedophile ~you're special just the way you are uwu~ blogs.

Now unused but another resource for mental gymnastics and pedo justification trying to make fucking pedophilia into this beautiful abstract thing

"I can find girls from 0 to women in their forties attractive, though under 3 what my feelings are get really blurry, they’re just cute mostly. I am most likely to be attracted to girls from ~5-10 and the most attractive of them tend to be the most attractive of anyone."

If you have any personal MAP cows you've come across, please add them.

No. 489580

any notable women who are on this fucked up bandwagon? i assume not.

No. 489593

actually there's a surprising few supporting it, you can find them on tumblr. a lot of teenage girls supporting it too and using the ~im a 16y/o girl and I THINK ITS OK therefore its ok~ idea. Equal amounts men posing as teens and actual teen girls.

No. 489602

This guy was doing the rounds on YT a while ago, he got so much backlash for his uh, opinion on pedophilia being ok. his original video is removed now and I cant find his channel, so here are snips of it even though the guy posting it annoys the shit out of me, i couldn't find a better one.

No. 489633

I'm interested in non-offending pedophiles. There was that one This American Life documentary about an online community of them but that's as far as my knowledge goes. I'd like some book/podcast/doc recommendations if anyone has any.

No. 489647

As a CSA survivor, "MAPS" need to be fucking shot execution style and their supporters need to be tarred and feathered.

Sage for no milk.

No. 489663

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I just need to know if "MAP" is a recent term because it's cast a certain band's famous song in an unflattering new light.

In terms of women MAPs I swear to God Lyndsay "Sex ed for kids" is a MAP ally and she has even said "children are sexual beings" in a vlog.
She is promoting the idea of "consent" for 3-7 year olds when nobody can legally "consent" until aged 16. Implication is children can consent which sounds pretty MAP-y to me. People have also pointed out her behavior is predatory in the comments.


No. 489710

I'm in the same situation(a CSA survivor), and these discussions over whether or not being a pedophile is justified bring an anger I didn't know I could feel. I'm glad that this thread thus far isn't supporting them. I've seen people try to justify MAP's by saying it's a Mental Illness, if it is then that's fine but it's a Mental illness that destroyed the childhoods of myself and millions of others and shouldn't be treated with any compassion or delicacy, it shouldn't be normalised. Our mental and physical health matters more than ~poor delicate mentally ill MAPs uwu~ but of course Tumblr will support who they believe is 'oppressed' and apparently children can fend for themselves and just deal with what these 'activists' and their revolting friends do. Sorry, sage for rage but it's hard not to.

No. 489740

the problem with MAPs is that they hide behind the mental illness excuse but then make more excuses not to get help because of muh stigma.
they're legit endangering people if they don't get professional help, a literal ticking time bomb. and its even better when they enable each others sick desires

No. 489745


I just googled and found several interviews, articles, reports in research journals, and a "virtuous pedophile" org.

No. 489873

The slippery slope is real. You guys think this shit will become mainstream eventually, like the whole trans thing?

No. 489909

I miss the days when even joking about being attracted to a child was wrong,disgusting and considered a big no-no, now people are justifying it, giving people who openly share the fact they find children sexual and fantasize about molesting them, to live normal lives and have it be a-ok as long as they just go to a therapist for 30 minutes and lie their ass off like all the other tumblrinas do when they go to the therapist

even LOLI has becoming acceptable and you can literally jerk it to drawings of naked little girls getting molested and anons like in the old vent thread will come in and claim ~teehee its not pedophilia its a fantasy youre mad over a cartoon its stupid~

all of them, even the supporters should be drowned

No. 489929

"Slippery slope" my ass. Throughout history and across cultures fucking kids was far more prevalent and accepted than changing your gender. Not to mention far more feasible.

It's far worse too, but it's not in any way a modern threat as you're insinuating. On the contrary.

No. 489985

I have to hide this thread but I hope this turns into a doxxing spree like the lift thread did. Just any pedophile trying to say that wanting to fuck toddlers is a sexual orientation or. I honestly can't even finish this post. Anyway I hope to God the doxxing people from the lift thread use this thread to completely decimate some pedophiles lives.

No. 489991

It's so hard to find actual map tumblrs because throughout all the tags you find a promising post like "For all no/maps having a hard time" then the text body is like "good fucking hope you die soon <3"
which is fucking wild.

I hope so but I think this is a whole other ball game, but if there's a will there's a way and I am so ready to see some sweet, sweet justice against dirty pedos.

No. 490091

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This piece of shit was trying to tell me how the Glee actor who got busted with child porn and killed was actually the victim in the whole situation

No. 490184

Yeah, I had been trying to find some milk because I’ve been waiting for this thread (thanks OP) and all I can find is this huge uprising against LGBP+/MAPs which is refreshing to see from tumblr

No. 490212


for anyone who is seeing a lot of much needed tumblr uprising and is looking for the real assholes, you can try the tags "actual map support", "actual map safe space", etc. tumblr users often put actual in front of tags where this happens, incl the spoonies, maps and self diagnosers.

No. 490495

I think it's recent, but might be wrong. What band do you mean?

No. 490892

anon meant Maps by the Yeah Yeah Yeahs I assume.
Great tune and thankfully MAP is a recent tumblrina label so we don't need to worry about that

No. 491369

I think that this MAP bullshit has the propensity to get a lot worse. I don’t see it getting better on account of the liberties taken and given towards the idea of “fluidity”. Moreover, while we can agree that sexuality is inherent, the comparable arguments from a pedophile or sympathizer would be to consider the idea that pedophilia is as hard wired as any form of sexuality. I think what most people (teeny bop tumblr suppprters) don’t seem to grasp is that sexuality is related to sexual preference, but also to intimacy. You can’t be “intimate” with a person who doesn’t share that same level of cognition. If they’re not capable of being an equal it’s always going to be an abuse of power. If you insist that children are capable of consent you’re beyond wrong. Children will eat themselves sick with candy if you leave them alone. (But so will most tumblr fatties.)

Anyone who works with children in any way knows that they are 100% not sexual beings. It’s simply something that hasn’t developed in a child. You can’t have child “friends”. An adults role to a child can be friendly, but an adult and child relationship isn’t capable of anything else.

I also 100% don’t buy into the idea of non offending pedophiles.

There are A LOT of pedophiles on tumblr in particular, especially if you’re part of “fandoms” that pertain to cute shit or Lolita stuff. There was one blog in particular that was ran by some guy in the US, who fell in love with his 8 year old cousin. I remember reading this being DISGUSTED. She came to visit and stayed at the house he lived in with his parents. Apparently they liked the same video games and he made this diatribe about how complete he felt with her, and how she was perfect. It was GROSS. He left a note in her suitcase proclaiming his love to her, telling her not to tell her parents, etc.

If I remember correctly, he was 10 years older than him. All these fucking idiots applauded his “love” for this child. They kept sending him supportive messages and insisting that their parents or some shit were 10-12 years apart, so that it was fine- and “cute” to have “loved her as a child.”

Like no one saw this as FUCKED. That person I think deleted their blog, and I think about that poor child so often. I feel so sad for her. I really hope that her parents found out and they kept that girl away from him. I quit tumblr after that. What a fucking cesspool.

No. 491414

Shit bait.

And it's been proven treating children as anything but children can be incredibly harmful. Look at children raised by narcissists and used by a parental figure as a substitute spouse. It's horrifying MAPs try to act like they're capable of making decisions like that.

No. 491636

Holy shit, I didn't hear about that. I just read an article and he had thousands of "abuse" photos on his computer and flash drive? What the actual fuck?

It takes me to a whole new level of nausea that people defend these people and they find it acceptable/justified and think it should be normalized. I want to vomit. I might be reading into it too much, but they always have <i>those eyes</i> too, that stare which seems like part of them is missing. I wonder if it is a genetic defect that causes people to be like this, because if so, it really needs to be culled from the human race. I want to cry, it feels like nothing is safe anymore, especially for young women.

No. 491857

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oh man, do i have some stories to tell about this

so back in late 2014ish when the whole gamergate thing was happening i decided to check out 8ch (mostly for gg) but came across the /hebe/ board and it somewhat piqued my interest because i was still underage at the time and was sort of developing a crush on an internet friend in his early 20s, will greentext the rest. the short of it is i became sort of assimilated into this little gang of regulars to the board and that’s where i first came across the term MAP, and hoo boy did i meet a few crazy cows (and yes, i will post screenshots)

>be 15, developing an attraction to this friend (who isn’t at fault i should say, i just thought he was cute and i was nearing the end of a bad first relationship, he didn’t do anything) and just finished playing the pedo game unteralterbach

>decide to make a post in light of this on the board and get flooded with doubtful guys etc and it obviously devolves into me sort of attentionwhoring and anons wanting to talk to me
>they give their emails and i contact them first
>one of them ends up becoming my bf for 2.5 years after that lol but that’s a whole other story
>one of the people is this guy named david clegg, who i just add on skype but we don’t talk until the next thing happens
>fast forward to late 2015, he suddenly messages me saying he’s starting a podcast to talk about MAP and MAP related things and if i’m interested in offering insight as an underage dating a MAP
>i’m under the impression that everyone on the board are hebephiles and not actual pedophiles (the board being named hebe after all, and people getting anal about the difference)
>he adds me to a skype group of people who are all MAPs or MAP related
>over time i find out that he’s a right wing extremist
>and he’s not a hebephile, but an actual pedophile
>the quote that stands out to me the most is “11 really is the golden age. they just turn into those western feminist whores after that” and that fucked me up for a long time after that but /blogpost
>unironic kekistan type; moonman, le epic pepe, “kkkkk. kkkk kkkkk kk” etc galore
>frequently would have meltdowns in the chat blowing up at whoever disagreed with him on anything
>called me a slut and whore for discussing general fashion and dressing up with the other guys (?)
>pic related when everyone was just baffled at him interrupting the conversation
>he would frequently make gross passes at me and another “girl” (another cow from this group that i pretty much hate) while simultaneously giving us both shit for being “too old” and “slutty” (and i expressed my discomfort because i was in a relationship)

i’m trying to find more screenshots, i hope i still have them for you guys

No. 491863

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>frequently talked about “finding the perfect lgf” (loli/little gf)
>the type to complain every day “tfw no lgf”
>people would attempt to give him advice and he would blow up at them for daring to imply that his abrasive personality and extremist politics he would force into every conversation was why he couldn’t get a gf leave alone an lgf
>blamed western civilization for “taking away their innocence”
>messaged me asking if i could hook him up with “other lgfs” even though he said i was a slutty old hag

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i’m trying my best to find screenshots i promise

No. 491878



Thanks for this insight into their horrible minds anon. Keep em coming if you have more.
> 11 is the golden age? These "maps" need to jump off a bridge honestly

No. 491911

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sorry guys, finding screenshots is harder than i thought
i looked through my computer and they’re all gone i think

anyone know how to look at old skype chat history? maybe that way i can take new ones

otherwise here’s more of his nonsensical pol rambling, saging this for politics

No. 491916

Relevant but saged for blogpost:

A few years ago I heard about a group called Virtuous Pedophiles, who self-indentify as pedophiles but have never offended and never want to, so it basically operates as a support group. I contacted them and asked if I could run a (very informal) study, basically ask them a bunch of questions based on the common assumptions (watched too much porn, abused as kids, etc).

If I took them all at their word - a risk in any study that relies on anecdotal data - most of them didn't watch porn and hadn't been abused. About half of them reported that they were exclusively attracted to minors, and the other half said primarily but were attracted to adults as well. All of them reported that it had onset at puberty; they had realised that while everyone else's sexual attractions matured as normal, theirs just hadn't.

I do not support paedophilia or "MAPs" in any way. But not all paedos abuse kids, just like not all child abusers are paedos. I think there's some merit to studying whether it does develop akin to a sexual orientation or not, purely because it would give some direction in how to prevent people acting on their disgusting desires.

/blogpost. sorry mods pls do not kill me

No. 491926

Samefag but the exposing tumblr in OP… what the fuck ??? People need to kts

The online community you're referring to is (I believe) the Virtuous Pedophile group.

>consent for 3-7 year olds
is this bitch fucking okay

tbf most mental health professionals won't work with people who admit to paedophilic thoughts. Another reason why non-offenders need to come forward so they can be studied. It might be that nothing can be done and paedos just need to be fucking shot or something. Apparently chemical castration is pretty successful.

No. 492077

I meant to say something about this in the Onion thread, but I really hate the distinction of hebe/pedo/ephebo. Ephebophiles say, “well they are sexually mature, it’s not like I’m attracted to an 11 year old, I would never do that that’s sick.” Hebephiles say, “well they are nearing sexual maturation and some girls start menstruation as early as 10, it’s not like I’m attracted to babies, I would never do that that’s sick.” Pedophiles have no fucking excuse until they default to “it’s muh mental illness” and they are the lowest of the low, but it’s like the distinction only exists to virtue signal and excuse the behavior of people like Onision because “it’s not as bad as it could be.” They all are fucking or wanting to fuck children. They all deserve the pits of hell. Even if they never touch a child in their life, child porn is never fucking okay. So many of those children are victims of sex trafficking and they go through absolute unending nightmarish horror and chances of them ever being okay after that are so slim and so many never even live to recover.

Sage for I just made myself really upset.

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Lmao is this the same David Clegg from The Dick Show?


No. 492417

This is a MAP thread, we know all pedophiles aren't offending but we're here to talk about that disgusting community that tries to pride itself as a support group

No. 493603


I think the reason it’s decolving is because no one actually believes that MAP is a support group for non offenders. It’s like the fatties who show up at weight watchers and never change. They’re still fat, we know they’re still eating.

In order to believe in that form of a support group, you also have to believe that the people who are able to justify- and they do, They justify their attraction to minors, are both non offending in the “celibate” sense, as well as not watching ANY form of CP.

So, do we believe that? Fuck no. Priests aren’t even celibate anymore. You expect me to believe that someone so far removed from human nature has the complexity and discipline to refrain from any form of depravity that they’re interested in?

I don’t believe it. Until then, MAP is just a way of testing the politically correct waters of today. They’re just being covert, and far more sneaky.

No. 493641

Excuse me, but what the hell do you mean by "non-offending pedophiles"?
Someone who just thinks to fuck an underage but doesn't actually do it - being a potential offender for his/her whole life?

No. 493665

http://mells-the-map.tumblr.com/ is the only one I can think about.

No. 493670

No. 493688

They used to have this programme in Germany to help paedophiles with medication and therapy. Apparently it worked pretty well, but unfortunately castration etc. aren't very popular in the public eye so they're always struggling with funding. Idk, we can't shoot people just like that, so I honestly believe castration etc. would be best. Just turn them into asexuals. Unfortunately lots of people who aren't paedophiles rape children.

No. 493862

nta but to be fair, there is overlap. trans people are now asserting that children can consent to hormone blockers and srs. it implies children understand consequence and permanence. so i can see that being used to justify sex with kids.

No. 493879

I don't really agree with this honestly. hebephile is a social construct and while yes, teens are sexually mature, and being attracted to them isn't some kind of mental issue, people who identify as that are choosing to ignore laws that are put in place for protecting minors. I think there -should- be a distinction, because age of consent laws vary by culture etc. so it's not inherently wrong, just morally bankrupt. The other things though should just be pedo straight up, liking children -is- inherently wrong and also morally bankrupt to support.

No. 493883

Well yeah, what's the confusion? It's like how all men are capable of rape but shouldn't be vilified just because of that fact. Men who don't rape but have thoughts of rape and feel shame because of it, aren't disgusting like people who actually do it.

No. 494071

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Helpful post for anyone new to the MAP horrorshow. These are the ~codes~ they use to communicate.

credit to http://the-pedophile-archive.tumblr.com/ a blog that has been archiving this bullshit for awhile

No. 494078

No. 494080

Samefag sorry I hit send before I finished typing, but other terms which coincide with it are chicken plucker, chicken chaser, etc.

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lmao some kawaii infographs were stats pulled out of someones ass

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No. 494101

That's actually a really relevant and scary point. Not that anyone sane would agree that children can consent to hormone blockers.

I think you mean ephebephile is a social construct. Hebephiles are attracted to age group 11-14 years old and are definitely not considered "sexually mature". I am in agreement with the point that being attracted to 15-19 year olds is not disordered, especially if you are very close to that age yourself (17 YO attracted to 15 YO for example). Just fucking grim when guys of 40+ are chasing 18 year olds and going "it's not pervy !!1!"

No. 494119

Do these people ever post photos? Curious what someone so open about this stuff would look like.

No. 494123

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In the same breath- from a pro nomap blog

No. 494127

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It's just so fucking disgusting that tumblr is brainwashing so many of these retarded teens

No. 494130

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You can only imagine what goes on in this communitys DMs

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No. 494180

>I think you mean ephebephile is a social construct

Yes sorry, bad with the lingo.

>Just fucking grim when guys of 40+ are chasing 18 year olds and going "it's not pervy !!1!"

That's what I mean by morally.

One can argue that atleast teens are physically developed like women, and men infantilize women's bodies constantly, so it makes logical sense why physical attraction would occur. But, while some in fact argue they are mentally developed enough, it's generally not true, and definitely still creepy from a social aspect.

Any younger than 15 is where terms become justification and are invalid. Anything younger than 15 just morally and logically inappropriate attraction to children.

No. 494356

Sort of related; my neighbour while growing up was a couple of years older than me. He would constantly try to get in my pants when I was a child, and did sexually assault me on one occasion but thankfully his mom walked in and rescued me from the situation. I was pretty meek but he also overpowered me so I couldn't really get away. Fast forward 17 years and I visit my hometown, turns out the little creep grew up to be a monster. He was convicted of grooming and molesting three girls from the age of 8-10. All started with him sending dick pics on facebook which they were too scared to tell their parents about, they ignored it but he did the usual slimy "I'm sorry, you're so beautiful, lets talk etc etc" bullshit and they did begin talking. Thankfully after he met up with them all the girls told their parents and they got him arrested. Apparently he'd sent pics to several other girls who weren't involved in the court case but they were mentioned. He was convicted, spent fuck all time in jail and shows absolutely no remorse.
He was repeatedly asked why he did it and just laughed about it, said he did it because he was bored and it was fun. He would do it again. In a heartbeat, if he wasn't banned from social media. He doesn't consider himself a pedo, yet displays all the manipulative behaviour and sexual attraction to minors. He ruined their childhoods for fun.

Another guy from my hometown, a brother of a friend, worked as a babysitter and was arrested for making and distributing hardcore child porn. He was arrested at work so it was a pretty big event for a small town and I think we collectively couldn't shower enough to stop our skin crawling. So they are out there, increasingly doing this shit for fun and just to destroy lives, totally proud and unapologetic or completely denial of their pedophilia and any wrongdoing.

No. 494395

Has he been arrested yet? Or does anyone know if he's under investigation for admitting that? He also works for the 'Foundation for Sex Positive Culture' which is deeply disturbing.

No. 494598

Except people who think about molesting a child are absolutely disgusting.

No. 494693

and people who think about rape aren't???

No. 495056

So this happened in the Brony fandom the other day to barely anyone's surprise. There have already been sadface videos about "oh no dis is gonna hurt our reputation!" but like… Priorities. That guy they're talking to was a well established and fairly popular part of the Youtube section of the fandom for the past few years, which he apparently used to get to young members.

Here's a vid summarising the events. You can find testimonies from the victims all over Youtube by now. https://youtu.be/RHp76fMdEXo

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No. 495247

>don't worry, i also want to brutally rape children!

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>and you are not a worse person for it

No. 495336

That reminds me of a guy I used to be friends with when I was 14, he was 20? I think at the time. He’d always talk about how I was a cute Loli or how he wanted a loli girlfriend to fuck when he liked

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No. 495889

yeah, we've known about their existence for a loooong time lol

No. 496312

>He also works for the 'Foundation for Sex Positive Culture' which is deeply disturbing.
Absolutely not surprising. I've noticed sex positive rhetoric escalating from "sex is natural and okay and apart of life," to "any perverted, degenerate thought you have is worthy of indulgence," over the past five or so years.

OT, sorry.

No. 496769

I was a part of a MAP discord (only one, because the others were too much for me) and I recognize a lot of the people that are being posted in this thread.

I joined because I'm a victim of csa and found my attractions were, for lack of a better term, strange. Their rhetoric drew me in, and I joined so I would have more people to talk with. At first, I was delighted to find people I could express my fears and worries to and not be judged. But over the course of a few months, I began to see how toxic the community was.

My breaking point was witnessing how many minors join to talk about their "attraction" and how the community responds to them. There will be 14 year olds calling themselves hebephiles (which is false, you're just attracted to your own age group) being welcomed with open arms, being fed all the feel-good lines about how their feelings are "normal" and they "shouldn't be ashamed" of their attraction (not being told that they are children and need to allow their brains to develop and grow). They're encouraged to share their age and they interact with actual MAPs, much older than they are.

Just being in these type of environments/echo chambers work to groom these kids to internalize the ideas of the people who want to take advantage of them and it's common for many of them to end up in relationships with older MAPs to show how open minded and accepting they are. These are usually children who are outcasts or teens/younger adults (like myself) who were csa survivors that have issues with their sexuality due to trauma. Vulnerable individuals who are desperate to belong. But also social outcasts, deviants, and manipulators who are in a space where their echo chamber allows them to avoid self reflection and access to a minor primed for grooming.

I would speak up against these situations (along with the idea that loli/shota is completely harmless, that making child rape jokes is a way to "cope" and not a disgusting thing to do) but they're quick to turn on you for what they see as "anti talk", or trying to be a "more virtuous MAP" than them, which is seen as a threat.

Another MAP who left the community made a tumblr post that explains a lot of my feelings towards the group and those like them.


No. 497164

I'm OP of thread so I hope this doesn't come across as ~dear diary~ but I had one of these too. Guy in late twenties when I was 14 through 18, all online though. He would say things like I was his cute little loli and how he wanted to hold me down and fill me with cum so that I would explode with his children. He also essentially harassed me for nudes if I wasn't sending them of my own volition and threatened to kill himself many times. It never occurred to me at the time that it was essentially child pornography he was soliciting and I wonder how many other girls he did it to. I eventually blocked him on everything and he soon became a legit stalker trying to find my country home and workplace etc I'm so glad that's over now. He had friends who had similar behaviour i.e soliciting pics and sexual attention from then underage girls, usually those in the scene or alternative sphere or who liked video or cars games or memes. Makes me so angry now

No. 497269

My boyfriend and I have a pact that if one of us ever becomes terminally ill, we'll take out as many pedos as we can before we die. They don't deserve to breathe - ""non-offending"" or not. The only ones I can empathize with are the ones who survived csa and as a result have developed pedophilia but they should never be around children.

No. 497941

Realising what was happening years down the line is the most fucked up part. I once befriended a self-admitted 20+ year old pedophile when I was 14 because he was nice and friendly to me. He told me he wanted to "love and protect children" so I would tell him that there was nothing wrong with it. He brought up fetish talk and until recently I never realised how messed up it was for him to talk about his fetishes to a young teen. Messes me up now to think about what I just thought were friendly interactions due to my inexperience and naivety. This is what they take advantage of, kids and young teens are naturally accepting and believe in the better side of adults.

No. 498499

jesus looking back on my early teen years this shit actually happened so much. multiple male friends in early 20s who routinely nicknamed me Jailbait and who obsessed over people like Ericka Camacho i.e hypersexualised teens.

No. 501366

The same goes for me, 14 years old myself and at least two over 21 years old males tried to became my friends and since I was young and alone I allowed having chats with them… I didnt realize that men only talking with teens were dangerous at all. One of them also talked about his sex experiences with another 15 years girl in a playground while he was 25… damn I was so naive. The other one got mad with me because I didnt wanna be her girlfriend and started to manipulate me… he didnt get anything with me but thinking about other girls who maybe got hurt is so sad.

No. 501638

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If any of you haven't been regular on tumblr for a while (I shamefully have been), this rhetoric was welcomed by MOGAI groups as well. I was groomed by a 22 year old "heteromantic homosexual" (at age 15) who would send me shotacon at all hours of the day, insisted MOGAI was the new LGBT and that LGBT people were oppressive towards people who weren't in their 'clique'
MOGAI basically devolved into kinksters who think they're oppressed, people who spend all their time being internet warriors to defend their rights to post incestuous child porn of the gravity falls kids, annoying ace fakeboys, and MAPs. You'll probably notice when you find a MAP, theyll post about all these things. Probably because they were dragged into MOGAI a few years ago.
MAPs started popping up so quickly after mogai started to lose traction it was like whiplash. One evil defeated just for another to spring up.
These people will also bring up "POCD", meaning pedophilic ocd, pedophilic intrusive thoughts. Completely ignoring the fact that people with POCD (or intrusive thoughts about hurting children in general) are deathly AFRAID of hurting children or being involved with the process of hurting children which is why they wouldn't seek to normalize the idea of being attracted to children or look for fucking child porn of any kind.
It's just people desperate to look oppressed. When in reality they're disgusting creeps who willingly fantasize about abusing children.

No. 501639

(Sorry for the wall of text, should've double spaced)

No. 501951

Is she trans? Voice sounds female although that’s a very masculine facial structure.

No. 501962

Unless you're male then idk how you think that's too masculine for a woman.

No. 626165

I've survived this shit when I was around 5 years old. It's haunted me my entire life even now well into my twenties. These sick fucks need to be dealt with violently. They aren't human they are fucking monsters. It's the same as killing off an invasive species in any environment for me as far as morals go. It's just better for the environment if they don't exist. They cannot coexist with normal functioning societies. This is about as damn close to a bi partisan issue as we have today.

No. 626527

Why must those fucking nutjobs give real trans people a bad name?
God, I feel disgusted right now. I can't believe MAPs are real. And I can guarantee you nobody but MAPs themselves are supporting that shit and it'll stay this way.
Unless the world disappoint me once more

No. 626598

Those are real trans people, fuck off with that truscum shit. The trans community supports them more than any other group, most likely because trans people are overrepresented within the map community.

No. 626657

they are real trans people unfortunately. just because they are pedos doesnt mean they arent really trans. like >>626598 said, it seems like the trans community on tumblr is bending over backwards to make them feel supported, and its nasty as fuck. tumblr is a cesspool.

No. 742419

Hebephilia is just a fancy word for pedophilia.

No. 742438

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No. 749146

Incorrect. A Hebephile is someone primarily attracted to adolescents. A peodphile is someone attracted to babies, infants, children and prepubescent children.
Google is your friend anon.

No. 749186

anon they are still attracted to minors is the same lol ,they are disgusting people that need to die

No. 749210

nta but i mean it's not the same. adolescents are teens which includes 19 and 20 year olds. it's gross and creepy but it's not sick like wanting to fuck children adolescents are aesthetically the same as adults.

i'm not defending pedos, but it weakens the issue to conflate them.

No. 749213

I agree here. Men who like teenagers are like Onision, grooming pieces of shit and definitely still disgusting, but pedophiles who are attracted to children are arguably more dangerous and sick. I believe both groups should be punished and jailed and shown no mercy, but disgusting men who injure innocent babies and toddlers should be killed, possibly publicly executed.

No. 749222

Agreed. Developmental stages are 0-3, 4-10, 11-14, 15-19. Any man 20+ pursuing an attraction to a 15/16 year old is predatory as fuck, but it's not the same as finding literal small children sexually attractive.

No. 749258

> adolescents are aesthetically the same as adults.

They are yes. So why are they attracted by the same thing but younger ? Because they are predatory, they know they can manipulate and find a teen they can "learn" sex to. Of course, children are way more vulnerable, but still praying on people you know you'll have the upper hand with is fucked up.

No. 749279

Right, and we all agree on that. It's okay to point out the differences though. No one is advocating either one. But there's a huge difference between manipulating a 16 year old into consenting to sleep with you than raping a small child, that's all.

No. 750256

I thought MAP was a term coined by 4chan to troll websites I didn’t think it was actually legit, wtf

No. 750589

That was clovergender, IIRC.

No. 1761499

File: 1675597993191.jpeg (608.7 KB, 828x1470, DAA0B843-1AF2-4857-BF6F-1FA756…)

lolicon pedophile on instagram.

No. 1761500

File: 1675598149476.jpeg (337.61 KB, 828x1048, 81889152-EC63-484A-9EFE-CEC400…)

lolicon pedophile on instagram.
@popcutesweet / @chocatebanana / @moetrons

No. 1761501

File: 1675598246655.jpeg (Spoiler Image,649.03 KB, 828x1464, 90623FED-6F74-4095-9799-BBAA09…)

lolicon pedophile on instagram.
@popcutesweet / @chocatebanana / @moetrons(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 1761502

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lolicon pedo on instagram. @popcutesweet / @chocatebanana / @moetrons

No. 1761503

her shared account that is now gone, the other owner of the account says this about her. @popcutesweet / @chocatebanana / @moetrons

No. 1761505

File: 1675598459975.jpeg (213.03 KB, 828x1331, 0CC5A001-0F83-4842-93D9-53157A…)

her shared account, the other owner says this about her and she likes it. @popcutesweet / @chocatebanana / @moetrons

No. 1761514

censor that shit newfag, you can put the account name in your post not in the name part of writing a reply

No. 1761515

and you can put sage in the email field kek

No. 1761951

kek i know this one. definitely a pedo NLOG who panders to her pedo bf. she used to brag about chan scrotes fanning over her. feels like she sits on her ass all day googling her one million usernames to feel good about herself. does a picture of her full face exist out there, i wonder.

No. 1761960

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wow I used to follow moetrons (identified as a femboy and lied about being "cis"). She was posted a few years ago on the fakeboi threads too. She's also disgusting because that anime girl on the pillow case is 11…

No. 1762058

Pedophilia is never ok and an adult wearing a pacifier is pretty fucking weird, but there is nothing wrong with being a femboy.

No. 1762155

it's fine to be gnc, but it's weird to be a woman lying about being a man. Anyways, that's off topic, the girl in question obviously fetishizes young girls and is autopedophillic clearly; i.e the ddlg tendencies, trying to be uwu loli desu, etc.

No. 1762640

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this is the closest pic i could find with her entire face in it.

No. 1762697

the only acceptable time for an adult to wear a pacifier is if they are rolling on MDMA like how ravers do it. gotta protect those teeth. but as fashion? eww

No. 1768167

Does this even constitute as pedophilia? Just looks like a girl taking the LARP too far. Get real stop clogging the thread with this shit(sage your shit)

No. 1768329

learn to sage next time wking retard

No. 1846696

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Found this MAP pride blog that is run by a fediverse "woman" named Katie. I believe "she" has deep connections with MAP academics as she routinely posts about pedo psychologists who conduct studies and publish papers with the aim to normalize pedophilia.
The blog(found it linked on a MAP onion site):https://amapin.love/

I randomly selected a psychologist from one of her linked studies, found one that is looking for MAP parents or step parents for "anonymous participation". Craig Harper of Nottingham University leads the study, and on Twitter, he follows the usual MAP suspects like James Cantor, he supports transgenderism in children, and the selling and use of child sex dolls: https://twitter.com/CraigHarper19?lang=en

No. 1846744

lmao huge and true. no doubt that was just the most convenient cheap mouth guard you could find at any store that comes on a much needed string you can wear while dancing and just collectively did NOT care about it looking stupid because they were all rolling. bit based tbh

also today it's easy to buy chew stim toys for all ages online. theyre marketed for autistic people but since that includes older kids and teens they're usually not so baby codified and just neutral or bold colored geometric shapes of safe chewy material on a string. so if you actually do find comfort in chewing and sucking on something for like trauma regression mental health stuff, an adults stim chew toy is actually easier to access today and much more understandable and not fetishistic compared to a baby pacifier

No. 1846767

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Back in 2009 Louis Theroux made a documentary visiting a holding facility for arrested pedophiles. It shows pretty clearly 95% of pedophiles do not even care to be rehabilitated to gain freedom they'd rather rot with the rest of them than give up the potential chance to molest another kid. Only 1 guy in the documentary is willing to go through chemical castration.


No. 1846773

That's why castration should be mandatory along with separating them from the rest of the population like in florida.

No. 1847203

File: 1686869786057.png (36.56 KB, 710x695, alyssa_.png)

It's crazy how no one seems to have talked about the "pediverse". If you're part of the fediverse, you're bound to run into them in the wild at some point. I've been observing these people off and on for some time. A lot of them are trannies, some of them are admitted rapists/sex offenders, and there are zoophiles/zoosadists mixed in.
I know they're not just trolls, because from what I understand, they've been around for years. A lot of them move their accounts or go dark from time to time. There's really not much context I can give to make the things I'm going to post make sense, so I'm just going to go ahead and dump some of the wild shit I've screencapped.

No. 1847205

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No. 1847211

File: 1686870212970.png (485.64 KB, 540x752, para.png)

No. 1847213

File: 1686870409968.png (13.5 KB, 376x553, parap bio.png)

No. 1847220

File: 1686870968240.png (19.22 KB, 721x361, mape.png)

They had some drama after a sex offender named Wayne Povah ("OffenderX") showed up, bragged about raping his daughter, mentioned her by name, encouraged people to jerk off to his recollections of it, and got doxxed. He also used to sexually harrass a minor within their community. Several users were upset that Wayne was exposed, because it meant "none of them are safe". For quite a few of them, him being a transphobe was actually a bigger problem than him being an unapologetic child rapist.
Here's the article that got shared around. It uses a photo of his daughter instead of him (she spoke out on him to the news), but they were still mad about his privacy being violated.

No. 1847222

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Sorry I didn't screencap Wayne's account when it was up. It was just too disgusting, not even milk.

No. 1847224

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Timeline of "OffenderX" as explained by someone in the MAP community who's run into him multiple times.

No. 1847226

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The last commenter said "So you worked with a pedo hunter?". The people in this community, as anyone would expect, despise all pedo hunters. This isn't the first pediverse "doxxing controversy", either.

No. 1847227

Sage for not necessarily milk, but this reminds me of the BARpod episode on MAPs. Katie was really adamant about defending them, and I just don't understand why. She goes on about how boohoo their lives suck so much because they "can't control it," and everyone views them as liabilities. And I just don't see how that's a bad thing. They are liabilities, and they're overwhelmingly male (although unsurprisingly about 8% of them are TiMs.) She even believes that you can't argue against child sex dolls because there's no "evidence" that they increase the user's risk of offending. Why, why, why is she sticking up for the worst males and their paraphilias so hard? If there's one demographic that deserves to be treated like modern-day lepers, it's males whose sexuality is supposedly an uncontrollable desire to rape kids. I feel zero sympathy for them, even the non-offending ones. We need to stop coddling males because they supposedly can't control themselves. Yes the fuck they can, they have brains, too. There's no reason why the need to look at and masturbate to drawings of child rape.

No. 1847231

Three years??? He raped his seven year old daughter and only got three years? Good fucking lord, I hate men so much.

No. 1847243

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The "Seara" being referred to here is a TikTok user, a CSA survivor, who found out about this group and doxxed the same Katie mentioned here >>1846696. That's the other recent doxxing incident. She made a playlist on her experience with him (he's trans, yes).
The tl;dw is that Katie's blog, "A Map In Love", used to feature long blogposts about a particular child he lusted after. Her parents were his friends, and they just tolerated it up until they decided it was too much. Seara exposed his identity, and then members of the pediverse retaliated by finding pictures of her children and saying nasty things about them. Katie then sent Seara a long, manipulative e-mail calling for "peace". She didn't respond. He eventually popped back up on his pediverse account, called her a cunt and said he'd lock down his blogposts about the little girl.

No. 1847245

how is an anonymous study like this even okay, do they not have to report pedophiles??

No. 1847247

File: 1686874285817.png (207.52 KB, 721x576, katie.png)

Katie claimed the dox "wasn't him", just his "friend". Privately, he was shitting his pants at being exposed and other members of this group were giving him their support.
Now, Katie is running a shop for MAP merchandise:

No. 1847249

there's a study showing that paraphilias are more common with autistic men. Just good to keep in mind, if you're an autistic woman since we mostly end up being friends with other spergs, male spergs are not safe.

"After correcting for multiple testing, significant differences were still present in the number of individuals reporting masochistic fantasies, sadistic fantasies, voyeuristic fantasies and behaviors, frotteuristic fantasies and behaviors, and pedophilic fantasies with female children. Female patients with ASD showed no differences in the frequency of paraphilic fantasies or behaviors in comparison with their HC counterparts, except in the frequency of masochistic behaviors, where more female HCs indicated masochistic behaviors than the female ASD patients."

No. 1847251

File: 1686875149105.png (8.85 KB, 727x167, delusion5.png)

Here's a Chinese-American incel who's obsessed with little white girls, advocates for rape and complains about "consent ideology". Probably one of the worst I've seen.

No. 1847252

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No. 1847254

File: 1686875251821.png (43.02 KB, 722x632, delusion6.png)

tl;dr: "If you believe in consent, you're a puritan!"

No. 1847256

File: 1686875474460.png (36.65 KB, 711x538, delusion4.png)

Complaining that a callout post was written on him.

No. 1847257

File: 1686875611589.png (22.46 KB, 717x391, delusion3.png)

He also likes adult white women, in case "creepy rape apologist" was on anyone's bucket list.

No. 1847258

File: 1686875647267.png (8.92 KB, 722x145, delusion8.png)

No. 1847261

File: 1686875723124.png (19.55 KB, 702x367, delusion2.png)

>radically sex-positive principles
He reminds me of Vaush.

No. 1847262

File: 1686875793208.png (38.01 KB, 707x590, delusion.png)

Thinks raping someone is like forcing them to eat.

No. 1847264

They don’t want to have to report pedosadists. “Sex researchers” have a long history of not reporting monsters they know are raping kids bc of some ideal of science and research. There is a big controversy around Kinsey for doing this. Mr. X I think he was called.

The movement by so called researchers to urge the public to end mandatory reporting laws continues today, pushed by people adjacent to figures popular in women’s circles like ray Blanchard (agp and homo trans theory of trans) or maybe he even advocates for this policy himself. The researchers who don’t want to and don’t report even literal active child rapists also convince the Catholic Church to not report Pedo priests to the police and are supposedly the reason for that particular corruption lol. (Moving over to tinfoil thread).

No. 1847265

File: 1686876160961.png (13.19 KB, 718x252, acry.png)

Also just a ton of tranny shit that you couldn't make up.

No. 1847268

same person… didn’t even look at the screenshot. those very same academics keep pushing for abolishing mandatory reporting laws for whatever reasons they can conjure. evil. some of them, Idk about those ones specifically but wouldn’t be surprised to find out they have actually done this, but there’s loads of evidence of these types of researchers having “treated” or “studied” active child rapists without reporting them.

No. 1847269

File: 1686876574899.png (21.81 KB, 711x522, mf_.png)

Supporting CP.

No. 1847271

File: 1686876924257.png (22.62 KB, 716x321, un0.png)

>Parents are jealous of pedophiles, actually

No. 1847272

i've read/watched stuff on kinsey, i guess i naively believed there would be consequences after scandals like that and it wouldn't keep happening but there's probably thousands like him that get away with this shit, there is never any fucking consequences. Kinsey's ideas are still being repeated in academia as if the truth about his research doesn't discredit him. (i'll join you over in the tinfoil thread if you want to go into this more, don't want to derail here)

No. 1847274

File: 1686877081127.png (35.76 KB, 727x648, jbhvg (2).png)

>it's actually straight for me, as a man, to want to have sex with little boys

No. 1847281

File: 1686877506469.png (14.5 KB, 797x261, gbu.png)

One of the admins on the pediverse is "Lecter", a transage FtM pedophile/zoophile who's been active in the MAP community for several years. She's anti-contact, but tolerates and allies with those who are pro-contact.

No. 1847283

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He's claimed to do "occasional behind the scenes work with B4U-ACT", so it's likely he is in connection with researchers.

No. 1847284

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No. 1847287

File: 1686878158210.png (302.47 KB, 737x868, quinn2.png)

There are a lot of "transage" users, go figure.

No. 1847289

File: 1686878405252.png (33.24 KB, 810x600, acryl.png)

>I meant literally nothing by it

No. 1847291

File: 1686878612803.png (24.81 KB, 707x567, delusion9.png)

They're into grooming others into trooning out.

No. 1847293

File: 1686878640307.png (10.33 KB, 802x155, weix.png)

Like, really into it.

No. 1847296

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No. 1847298

File: 1686878988656.png (14.15 KB, 806x216, t7n.png)

>I identify as working class
but unironically

No. 1847302

i can't believe this is an adult, absolutely unhinged

No. 1847332

>Katie was really adamant about defending them, and I just don't understand why.
I think Katie has a huge blind spot for people she thinks are being bullied. Jesse, does to, but less so than Katie. Why else would the hire a furry and then talk about how much of furry he is so consistently.

No. 1847341

I’m disgusted but not surprised that that show is like that. They have that vibe. The whole ideology she reveals herself to adhere to with what you said she said is endlessly disturbing to me. Same people will say there’s no evidence child rape is harmful they have no soul other than protecting abusers from criticism.

No. 1847359

They should not be released under any circumstances not even chemical castration. they should rot in prison far away from children and rope is cheap. But my understanding is that they are in those facilities because they have been deemed by psychs to not be capable of remorse. At least in the US. Unless it’s not one of those state mental hospitals from which they won’t be released until they are deemed to have changed.

Chemical castration is more researcher propaganda that makes no sense.

No. 1847362

I am super busy and should be working but instead i am on here. Otherwise I might get into it here or there. Maybe there is more appropriate obviously things dont add up with the fact that they’re still doing all of this, ever did it at all, and I have undeveloped tinfoils on it as I’m sure many people do.

No. 1847443

Woah, I'm not surprised it's a tranny. He's probably one of the psychologists/researchers himself and he uses a tranny alias online. I clocked this from his blog so fast because literally every other post is about new pedo studies. I knew the psychology field was riddled with pedophiles but I never knew it was this bad. Fucking disgusting. Especially the women who co-author these research papers. Protect your children from these LGBTQ libtards. I hope DeSantis wins and there's an FBI investigation on the global rainbow pedo maffia. It's so blatantly clear they want to normalize pedophilia as a sexual orientation.

No. 1847507

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If desanstis wins there will be no investigation into any global pedo mafia only it’s continuation maybe you aren’t a radical feminist but haven’t we learned anything from meese, who is directly linked to and I’d say responsible for the ideologies which legitimize these “researchers” and “pedo is in the brain” then they say we need research not punishment not reporting to cops … ctrl f “meese”


and is responsible for the triumph of libtard ideology that ruins women and children’s life in other ways.. being a cold warrior https://youtu.be/94pJtxz5yG0

No. 1847515

hey desantis-kun can you please go back to kf or 8chan or wherever you came from

No. 1847520

Tbf he did allow the death penalty for child rapists and ban teaching sex to kids before the third grade, so there's that. I'm not really huge on any political candidate but I really fucking hate politicians on the left acting like sex should be normalized and taught to children. It's obvious what's going on.

No. 1847522

Of course he bans age-appropriate sex ed for young children. Lots of abused kids only find out they're being abused when they are taught about "inappropriate touching" in kindergarten, and people like him don't want kids to be able to report abuse. Republicans and child marriage go together like Catholics and child murder.

No. 1847524

The whole “pedos should be able to masturbate to drawn child porn and have child sex dolls" argument is just the stupidest notion ever because it’s been proven that that’s not how porn works on the scrotoid mind. It might satisfy sexual urges short term but it will always end up escalating because moids want the real thing and the fake stuff just gives them a taste for it

No. 1847527

Idk why people always cite say, Japan or whatever as to why loli and drawn CP doesn’t have any harmful effects on society. They’re two completely different societies culturally, socially and politically and it’s retarded to say what works in Japan will work in the US.

No. 1847542

What makes you suggest it's "working" in Japan? They don't take child abuse seriously enough for their statistics to be worth anything.

No. 1847543

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those are easy bare minimum things we should demand from all politicians i agree but i don’t think desantis winning will achieve that just like meese never achieved what he promised bc that’s not how the world works

also agree w other anon >>1847522 who said children need some sort of not “sex Ed” but “anti pedo Ed” where they’re taught what pedos are and how to disclose their abuse/ activities which schools are a good place to teach that.

some - ive seen people even say a lot - of the most heinous abuse happens by parents. a lot - i may have seen ppl say research shows it’s a majority - of csam is produced by parents and other family members. https://theconversation.com/amp/new-research-shows-parents-are-major-producers-of-child-sexual-abuse-material-153722

kids need to be taught by outside sources what abuse is and also need to have people outside the home who can detect abuse going on esp those trained in safeguarding. they don’t need strange males in a sexual state given access to them to do drag shows

No. 1847554

That is an incredibly retarded take because the only "child marriages" going on in this country are in very isolated, illegal, fundamental Christian sects. I can assure you they are neither registered Republicans nor even even voting. I'm going to assume this take was made by someone not American…

No. 1847561

>Child marriage is currently legal in 42 states (only Delaware, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Vermont have set the minimum age at 18 and eliminated all exceptions), and 20 U.S. states do not require any minimum age for marriage, with a parental or judicial waiver.

>Child marriage undermines statutory rape laws. In most states and under federal law, sex with a child that would otherwise be considered rape – in some cases, felony rape – becomes legal within marriage. In those situations, the marriage license becomes a “get out of jail free” card for a child rapist.
>New Jersey’s first attempt to ban child marriage failed in 2017, when then-Gov. Chris Christie vetoed a Republican-sponsored bill, saying it “does not comport with the sensibilities and, in some cases, the religious customs, of the people of this State.” (He didn’t specify which religious customs.) Since New Jersey allows pregnant girls to get an abortion without parental consent or notification, Christie also argued, banning 16- and 17-year-olds from marrying was “disingenuous” and an “inconsistency in logic.” In 2018, the reintroduced child-marriage ban passed the state House, 59-0, and the Senate, 30-5, despite opposition from members of Orthodox Jewish communities who wanted a religious exemption. Christie’s successor, Democrat Phil Murphy, signed it into law.

>The issue breaks down differently at the federal level. Though the U.S. State Department declared child marriage a human-rights violation in 2016, U.S. immigration law includes no minimum age for visa petitions involving marriages. A 2019 U.S. Senate report found that U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services had approved 8,686 visa petitions involving minor spouses and fiancées from 2007 to 2017. (Mexican nationals made up 40 percent of the approved beneficiaries. Middle Eastern nationals, mostly from Jordan, Iraq, Lebanon, Pakistan and Yemen, had the highest approval rates for petitions.)

>The California debate is stymied by a lack of baseline facts. It’s one of six states that provided no marriage-license data to Unchained At Last for its 2021 study. The California Department of Public Health, responding to a reporting requirement in the 2018 law, counts 17 marriages of minors statewide in 2019 and 17 in 2020 — including two men, ages 25 and 22, marrying 15-year-old girls. Petrie-Norris said she’s struggling to reconcile those double-digit figures with the U.S. Census American Community Survey estimate that 12,000 married minors ages 15 to 17 lived in California in 2019. “I worry it’s more likely something falling through the cracks with respect to reporting,” she said.

tl;dr: Not as rare as you probably think, not as illegal as you think, and not just Christians.

No. 1847574

mainstream right wingers like tucker Carlson rationalize child marriage https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/03/12/no-tucker-carlson-child-marriage-not-different-lifestyle-0

and Judith reisman who is the biggest activist against the evil activities of Kinsey - anyone w a brain would be agaisnt what Kinsey did apparently not the Barpod tho - concludes that the answer to the real problems she identified is to return to common law - a time when age of consent was non existent or like 10. you can see what rw political elite think returning to common law is, ctrl f “common law” https://web.archive.org/web/20210305043148/https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/01/30/justice-system-criminal-paul-craig-roberts/

namblas immediate aims are also to reduce the age of consent to 14, but before the common law, children as young as 7 had to defend themselves in court against their rapists that they didn’t consent, ctrl f “common law”. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/what-raising-age-sexual-consent-taught-women-about-vote-180975658/

I don’t trust the rw to stop nambla or the researchers who enable them

No. 1847580

damnit.. I mean when it was still the common law.. not before the common law. before modernity that escaped the hell for children and women that was the common law, men could rape children freely bc children didn’t have a right of the age of consent and men who raped seven year old could claim they consented.

No. 1847604

But sure vote for desantis and allow him to kill pedos ig no other politicians are doing anything and I don’t want to be accused of like trying to stop him from what he’s not even going to do..

the point is you have to pay attention to a lot of other things he will and won’t be doing the response to which won’t be voting someone else in it will have to be like mass organization like when women demanded an age of consent to push back on whatever policies of his admin which are contradictory to really achieving his stated platform on stopping child rapists and groomers

No. 1847620

Im literally from FL, DeSantis is the only politician who banned transing of children, and exposed the pedo Sex Ed that is taught in US schools. He's known for his harsh stance against pedo wokesters. Trump is pro trans and pedophilia as he's got deep connections with Epstein, and Musk's son is a tranny yet he's on Twitter trying to dunk on "the current thing" bitch you are the current thing lmao. DeSantis is not part of the tolerant right, aka the Caitlyn Jenner side.

Also, if anyone want to delve into MAP dwellings in the deep web, the search engine not evil doesn't filter out pedo sites like the other search engines. Use a vpn bc there's some disturbing content that can show up unintentionally. I saw a pedo forum for "boy lovers" called lost boys of Neverland, it has been active since the late 90s, cant help but to think of Micheal Jackson and the accusations of him abusing boys. These men literally operate a global network.

No. 1847621

He just wants tradition back (ie for kids to be sexually abused by their families and not be able to report them until it's too late, because they don't have any knowledge of what sex is). Also, no abortion so girls will have to carry rape babies. Stop being a fucking retard. You're arguing about picking between multiple pedophiles KEK.

No. 1847622

I agree. DeSantis is awesome and I'm going to vote for him in the primary. If you don't, I assume that you're a pedo supporter.

No. 1847624

These are some suspicious posts.

No. 1847639

Exactly, the GOP is more than happy to enable pedophilia in their own camp and force little girls to gestate rape embryos. They just hate troons and gay people b/c they assume they treat little boys the way they treat little girls.

If DeSantis wants to execute pedos he's going to be executing most of his own party/supporters kek

No. 1847665

He's actually and unironically comparing the witch trials to child-rape, I don't have any words or funny reaction image for this, this is one of the worst things I have thus far read.

No. 1847678

You're retarded if you think liberal politicians are better. I said a neutral comment cause I don't trust any politicians but you have to make it "DA DA GOP THO" meanwhile the liberals you voted for drink champagne with Republicans on epsteins rape island. You're too retarded to have a discussion about how to stop pedophilia without making it about your "muh right side of history"

No. 1847687

Never said they were but at least they aren't trying to force 10 year olds to birth the spawn of their rapists (or die in the process).

Plus the GOP is against shit like banning child marriage and making religious leaders mandatory reporters in all 50 states.

No wonder so many girls want to chop their tits off and become he/theys with the way men (especially conservative men) treat them.(learn2integrate)

No. 1847699

That's the real reason they want to ban sex ed in elementary school IMO, sex ed for 5 year olds is just proper names for body parts and other abuse-prevention shit. They make up stories about the evil Libs wanting to teach kindergarteners about bdsm and sex acts to try and sway they normies, as well as redefine grooming in ways that exempt family members and religious leaders as perpetrators (even though those are some of the most likely people kids will be groomed/abused by).

Never mind how much their beloved homeschooling is linked to trying to keep kids away from mandated reporters.

They're trying to distract normies from how much they love grooming and raping their kids and treating little girls as sex objects.

No. 1847726

if Ron deepstatis got rid of the so called woke pedos the ones trying to copy lgbt movement to be an orientation but only retard media like barpod and researchers in academia support them.. who will the deep state and elites blame protection of their pedosadism on

kids need to be taught that pedosadism is wrong what it is and how to disclose why do they need to be desensitized to adult genitals but pedos in schools

the rw wants to end schools in general which will mean there’s no standardized anti pedo education for kids, some of whom will be abused in homes that don’t want them to have any way to disclose abuse, and it will mean there won’t be any mandatory reporters to notice abuse going on in homes or there will be less.. I agree this is a consequence. it’s a cynical deployment of anti pedophilia that is technically wrong but retards believe the problem is schools

No. 1847781

They're probably intentionally trying to paint the problem as being only schools so they get a free pass to abuse their kids as much as they want.

That's also why they want as little oversight and regulation for homeschooling as possible. Heard somewhere that over 30% of kids pulled out of public school for homeschooling had a credible abuse complaint against their guardians

No. 1847999

>Adult man playing with his greasy hair to cooming to the idea of himself as a little girl
The fetishistic delusions are reaching critical mass.

No. 1848309

File: 1687038183051.png (241.58 KB, 652x2889, Screenshot 0.png)

Pedophiles revealing themselves in the QRTs of this post, also the fat he/him moid who made the meme, If you do a key word search for “age” in his tweets, you’ll find a lot about him wanting to start transitioning two year olds.

No. 1848352

It's a scrote problem, not a right or left problem. Scrotes on the right defend child marriage because Jesus and muh religious freedom. Scrotes on the left defend it because Muslims and other "marginalized cultures" do it. Many moids want it to be legal to basically take a girl prisoner with marriage and they'll latch onto whatever defense their side of the aisle has cooked up for it.

No. 1849543

I forgot to blame the left for insisting this out of all times is the time when elections don’t matter and allowing trump to get elected and he put the rw elite agenda one of which is to end the age of consent in the Supreme Court. not like they weren’t warned about it endlessly then. the left hates females and thinks female issues don’t exist. duh… then will call females still knowing we have issues the cia.. hate them.. stuff I said was wrong other stuff too but not it could take different routes. if the rw doesn’t support new Cold War for some reason they’ll still support child rape.

No. 1850577

wtf are u talking about… are you good?(sage )

No. 1870034

File: 1690191223118.png (497.82 KB, 845x706, riada.png)

Another trans pedo got doxxed. The mother/CSA advocate who doxed "Katie Cruz", riadaares (picrel), has been watching over the "pediverse" community, and found someone who goes by the name of "_angel_" challenging her to dox him. He had multiple posts talking about grooming a little girl. She did so, found his real full name, location and workplace, and is now trying to reach out to the girl's parents to warn them.
"Angel" has been freaking out on his account, and others have been raging in his defense. They've been trying to get all the proof banned and seething hard.
I saved the video, but the file is too large to post here, so I reuploaded it: https://files.catbox.moe/udss13.mp4

No. 1870036

File: 1690191475619.png (111.7 KB, 647x751, angel1.png)

No. 1870037

File: 1690191562992.png (83.46 KB, 655x592, angel2.png)

No. 1870039

File: 1690191621656.png (128.36 KB, 652x812, angel3.png)


No. 1870041

File: 1690191885428.png (125.68 KB, 640x757, angel4.png)

There was way more sperging, claims that he didn't feel safe in public anymore, telling people to stop calling his workplace and denial that he was grooming the child, etc but it's been taken down.

No. 1870043

File: 1690191964180.png (37.7 KB, 717x242, trace.png)

Bonus transrace support

No. 1870047

File: 1690192218417.png (352.91 KB, 652x810, consuela.png)

No. 1870051

File: 1690192363057.png (133.54 KB, 653x750, consuela2.png)

No. 1870052

File: 1690192508652.png (121.77 KB, 650x801, 3co.png)

No. 1870058

File: 1690193668540.png (95.08 KB, 476x727, katiecruz_.png)

The other trans groomer that got doxxed started a donation page for him.

No. 1870060

File: 1690194331354.png (91.14 KB, 727x601, consuela8.png)

>strike back

No. 1870061

File: 1690194526076.png (125.12 KB, 572x818, creampop.png)

Same guy from >>1847222 mad as hell about another predator getting doxxed.

No. 1870062

File: 1690194577399.png (105.02 KB, 582x723, creampop2.png)

No. 1870083

File: 1690200763431.jpeg (225.27 KB, 800x450, IMG_0947.jpeg)

how i sleep knowing this pedo is having the worst day of his life

No. 1870166

>Well! Being a pedo is ethical and ecologically conscious!
>because wanting to fuck children that will die because of the misuse of water is a right!
>if you want to save children, well, how about you recycle some shit first?!
>revealing the identity of a retard that wants to fuck children and is in contact with real children that are getting groomed by said retard isn’t going to save them!!!

No. 1870504

This is the most retarded thing I’ve ever read in my entire life. I hope these people rot. They don’t deserve to breathe air. I feel for every child that has access to the internet at a young age.

No. 1870825

File: 1690329503520.jpg (44.79 KB, 735x706, 3af68e2a76b7246e11c1f2b88e348c…)

same, I love this thread

No. 1871584

File: 1690475819011.png (157.14 KB, 670x756, ugyhb.png)

>Those old hag feminists who misused their youth are jealous of underage girls, that's why society hates pedophiles
>Btw underage girls back in the day weren't really that forced to marry ugly old men (like me), attraction played a part in it

No. 1871641

i love how map’s rights activism has the same abbreviation as men’s rights activism, both being MRA

No. 1871680

It saves on printing when the same people are going to both conferences

No. 1871778

>>1871584 "banning harmless outlets for self-satisfaction like lolicon." needing lolicon to "satisfy" (eww) your urges isn't a good fucking look for your "harmless people who can't help their attractions and who don't offend" group.

No. 1872010

File: 1690534262568.jpeg (606.14 KB, 1125x1118, 88F35B61-994A-4896-A2A9-F593BA…)

this got me good nonnie

No. 1874280

what does this idiot think happens to those “minor working-class females” when the men preying on them want a new kid to molest? Best scenario they get abandoned with nothing, worst they are murdered. Feminists know child marriage benefits only the male abusers.
not to be MATI but i want to pull this guys teeth out with pliers.

No. 1879398

>what is marriage

No. 1879427

Why does every sick fuck online resort to whataboutism the moment they get challenged. They literally all use the same argument, as if any of them are eco warriors.
>”you probably shouldn’t rape kids/torture small animals/goon to abuse porn all day”
>”w-why don’t you put that energy toward saving the PLANET!!”

No. 1879428

More delusional scrotes believing they’re the prize. AS IF women of any age are competing to date pedophiles who wank to lolicon. We actually want you all burned at the stake.

No. 1879628


No. 1879632

File: 1691744734401.png (221.56 KB, 572x815, oiuhgytf.png)

They know about this thread, in case anyone was wondering. They linked to it, too.

No. 1879640

It's weird as hell when I see these type of people say shit like "it's not real, literally no one offline cares" etc. As if your average Joe on the street wouldn't think you were a disgisting pedo for writing porn about children being raped or drawing lolicon. Idk, in their online bubbles everyone seems so detached from reality and what the average person thinks.

No. 1879670

File: 1691758403939.jpg (279.94 KB, 965x804, Untitled.jpg)

people wanting to kill themselves because they were sexually abused as a child by some piece of shit who wanted to get their rocks off isn't a partisan issue

No. 1879689

Recently I spoke with a group of professional friends who own a tattoo shop near my own business. Some fucking pedo came in asking the shop owners for a MAPs flag tattoo. The wife went into a full blown panic attack, had to leave and calm down in another room. Absolutely disgusted and fearful of the monster. Her husband offered to tattoo it for free, and only if the pedo got the flag on his face. Pedo left, upset and shook. Good, fucking mongrel. I wish he had been stupid enough to get the free tattoo as where I live people don't take kindly to child predators. Now that they think they're part of the "queer community" the stupid ones are "coming out" and branding themselves to the public eye. Perfect. Let us know who you are so we can keep very close tabs on you.
The delusion is so strong it's warping the fabric of reality.
Get out, predator scum.

No. 1879741


Handled very well, honestly the perfect response - but I wonder if someone else would turn a blind eye and do it anyway for the money. Glad some people have sense anyway!

No. 1879777

It feels like every single community that allows nsfw/dark fictional topics gets infested with these fuckers. I'm tired of fandom spaces getting overrun by people with "paraphilias", and once you tell them to fuck off they cry how they're victims of oppression and they're "the good ones" even when they get caught for visiting actual predator sites.

No. 1880075

File: 1691808352083.png (360.88 KB, 633x2190, anti-para.png)

The mental gymnastics they go through in order to prove how it is akshully bad to call out paraphiliacs is astounding. Picrel isn't exactly about pedophilia, but it is heavily implied. Granted, I do agree with the idea that fiction =/= reality and the topic is much more nuanced than it is usually presented, however, it is intellectually dishonest to pretend that it all exists in vacuum.

No. 1882578

tumblr moment

No. 1882588

File: 1692185818210.jpg (500.13 KB, 1599x1200, FgX2SHUUAAAL3Ij.jpg)

tumblr moment>>1882578
lol ikr. imagine thinking it's "abnormal" to love children(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 1882591

Go to hell pedo-chan, the world would be better without those pedos too.

No. 1882593

tumblr moment>>1882578
lol ikr. imagine thinking it's "abnormal" to love children>>1882591
better without socrates and plato? kek(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 1882962

How was Shakespeare a pedo?

No. 1882977

There are many examples. Juliet was 13yo. And then there's the 126 of his 154 love sonnets which were written to a teenage boy.

No. 1882981

I don’t think writing a love story about a 13 year old girl and her boyfriend makes you a pedo. But the sonnet thing is pretty sussy. Who was the boy he was writing them to? Was he ever identified?(sage your shit)

No. 1883050

So Shakespeare was gay? Wtf this is news to me lol.

No. 1883053

I thought the Mr William Herbert shit got debunked years ago? Shakespeare didn’t dedicate the Sonnets to a WH, his publisher wrote that part and signed it, from Thomas Thorpe. The dedication page is arranged to look like a Roman funerary scroll. There was another publisher and colleague of Thorpe that died in 1607, before the Sonnets were published, so the dedication fits.

As for the Sonnets yes there are many addressed to a ‘fair youth’ but that’s like trying to say Shakespeare was a dysphoric tranny because he wrote from a teenage girls perspective in his plays. Fact is he was married with 3 kids and was able to write all kinds of complex characters of varying races and gender, none of which were necessarily autobiographical in nature. Shakespeare hated sonnets and he alludes to this a lot in his plays, but ended up writing a bunch of them later because they were trendy and it was going to earn him more money.

No. 1883056

Literally all a bunch of creeps. Philosophy is retarded shit and this just proves it.

No. 1883058

Agreed. The pedo propaganda goes deep. Shakespeare should have been burned at the stake. Imagine promoting "love" between a 17yo and a literal 13yo. And we wonder how this ends up in schools.(sage your shit)

No. 1883134

Nope. Also, there's little to no information on Shakespeare's life despite being so popular during and after, partly because it was too long ago and partly because he wasn't upperclass, so over centuries academics have resorted to just making shit up and pretending like there's anything to write about. Because he is THE playwright, they have to capitalise on it. But really there's not much you can say.

Mostly only things that actually have records that managed to survive such as his marriage and birth of children
>At the age of 18, Shakespeare married 26-year-old Anne Hathaway. The consistory court of the Diocese of Worcester issued a marriage licence on 27 November 1582. The next day, two of Hathaway's neighbours posted bonds guaranteeing that no lawful claims impeded the marriage. The ceremony may have been arranged in some haste since the Worcester chancellor allowed the marriage banns to be read once instead of the usual three times, and six months after the marriage Anne gave birth to a daughter, Susanna, baptised 26 May 1583

No. 1884313

'In fact, I had broken no lawful rule by probing the academic soundness of what I was expected to teach.'

She claims that 'some treated 'minor attraction' as part of the 'diverse sexualities and gender identities' Open University law teaching now seeks to 'centre'', alleging that the criminal law module featured an assignment in which students had to discuss a relationship between an adult and a minor.

She said that describing the child and adult as each other's 'boyfriends' would yield marks, and that students would lose marks for considering 'whether the adult was grooming the child or committing a sexual offence'.

When she asked for clarification, she says her appeals were 'described as further misconduct'.

No. 1886981

that's not true. romeo's age is never explicitly stated so while you could assume he's 17 if you really wanted him to be a creep, there's no evidence for it.

No. 1887799

File: 1692918882656.png (285.87 KB, 479x1662, ons.png)

These people watch CP and animal abuse clips btw

No. 1887812

sorry to break this to you anon but you may be retarded. when has marriage ever stopped moids from killing or abandoning their wives?

No. 1887872

This is such a bad description; he was saying two sisters were watching yaoi/fanservice?

No. 1887928

Yeah its an old vine I think of an older sister catching the younger sister watching gay porn and joking about it with the filmer

No. 1887985

No. 1891699

It literally took me a second to debunk so many of these, you ignorant, degenerate, worthless excuse of a human being. Implying that pedophilia is fine because important people have belonged to this category of sexual deviancy is so unimaginably retarded and ooga booga-brained. I wouldn't be surprised if your lack of reasoning skills is a result of the cognitive impairment and lack of gray matter that pedophiles tend to have. Just because you're a developmentally stunted, unattractive, defective being who missed out on fully developing doesn't mean you have to destroy the lives of children.

No. 1928237

I found a site that's like a wiki for MAP stuff. I'm honestly too afraid to look at it myself, is there any way I can report it or something? I'm very disgusted. Sage for being a newfag

No. 1930793

Here's some I know for reference:
>If you're a burger: https://www.ic3.gov/
>If you're a leaf: https://www.cybertip.ca/en/
Otherwise just google your country (or the country hosting the content) + "csa cyber tipline" (or something more explicit) and if there's something it should pop up. I'm assuming the wiki is being hosted in america so send it to the burger link though it might be worth sending to both since they could both potentially use the info found on the sites.

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