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The unfortunate child of governmentgetsgfs, /r/incels (http://reddit.com/r/incels
), is a subreddit about men who are involuntarily celibate, or incel, which means that they can not get anyone to sleep with them. they mostly believe that they can't get anyone to sleep with them because they are ugly, short, and/or autistic, and not because they're absolutely batshit insane. a lot of them absolutely refuse to believe that there's any hope for them despite their age (late teens/early 20s), and are convienced that the problem 100% lay with women, not them. the batshit insane doesn't apply to all of the users there, but it applies to a good majority.
some rules of /r/incels include:
you can't suggest that they go to therapy, because they all absolutely refuse to accept that therapy might be an option
you can't suggest that they go to an escort, because it's about INTIMACY AND LOVE, not sex, even though some of them suggest it for other incels (??)
you can't suggest self improvement, because that's just a TRAP
you can't suggest that they lower their standards, because allegedly their standards are already the lowest
who are the notable users? let's go down the list.
Formerly the user known as /u/sadpatheticloser2, and possibly one of the dumbest users there. On his old account, he would make numerous posts demanding people tell him that he is ugly, when in fact he is just an average indian dude. Now, becausehe was posting his picture (multiple times) while doing this, someone threatened to dox him and he deleted his account and hte imgur file and all that. He then made his new account, and the first post was "How do I avoid being doxxed???" He is constantly posting things that say people are 100% disgusted with him when he goes outside, and that they refuse to look at him and cower in fear because he's just that ugly, but whenever anyne asks him about it (basically if it's true), he won't answer and just keeps crying about how ugly he is. He makes a bulk of the rape fantasy, women should be enslaved, WHY DON'T WOMEN LIKE ME I'M SO UGLY posts, about 10 a night, in the span of an hour. He's convinced that indian men are the ugliest of the ugliest and that's another reason women don't like him
age: late teens/early 20s
Jewish teenager, who is from the midwest and in the army. Used to have leukemia as a kid, and was once homeless at one point, also has a twin sister. He's in the army band, and is currently stationed in Iraq. He absolutely refuses to admit he is wrong in any situation even when people provide citations and everything to prove that he is wrong. He believes that the reason black people get into school is because of affarmative action, refuses to believe that california doesn't have affirmative action (once said that students at UC Berkley got in because of it, and not cause of their work lmao) and that white women benefit from it the most. Once he made a post about how even in fiction women are evil because there's no "male version of a succubus", when everyone poined out that he was wrong and that that's what an Incubus is (and not a shitty band), he refused to believe it and went on to say that "WELL IT'S NOT JUST AS WELL KNOWN AS A SUCCUBUS" and then went on about how "NORMIES TOTALLY BULLY INCELS FOR THEIR OWN AMUSEMENT", because he couldn't admit he was wrong.
Some autistic (allegedly) candian somalian teenager, located in toronto. also makes a lof of women should be enslaved posts, asks why women don't like being raped, and then goes "i'm autistic i don't know any better!! women don't like me because i'm autistic!!" constantly making rage posts and sperging out at people in he subreddit, quitting and then coming back and talking about his self harm. once came up with the idea to quit his job and planned on becoming a drug dealer to get women addicted to heroin, and have them pay for the drugs by sleeping with him. he said that this would totally work because he had enough money saved up to just pay the drug dealer for all the drugs he was giving away for free for pussy. eventually decided that he would just buy an escort. then said he's too autistic to do it because he freaks out when people touch him, so he's back to square one.
A british university student who is in his first year, and has a complete and total superiority complex. He is convienced that anyone in the US who makes less than 400k a year is subhuman, that law students are lower than him (you know, law students), and women are in fact intimidated by him because he's just too alpha, and not because he's actually just a dick with a superirity complex. keep saying that getting a gf is a divine right, and that god will provide him one and that he doesn't actually need to stop being a dick to people.
the most bitter and angry user on /r/incels, which is saying a lot because so many people there are bitter and angry. despite being only in his mid 20s, he is absolutely miserable and believes that there is no hope for anyone, that hope is just some "normie" invention, and that women are the worst and dumbest of them all. he's been called out numerous times for just being nasty to users, incels and "normies" a like and responds aggressively to anyone and everyone when they tell him to stop doing it. he's completely nasty but also believes that women totaly can't tell tha he gives off a vibe or something like that irl.
age: early-mid 20s
Deleted his account recently because of "normies" in the sub, but another early college student who complains about Normies and sluts, and refuses to put absolutely any effort in to anything that he does or happens in his life. For instance, the people on his floor would party every weekend, and it would bother him. He wouldn't complain to his RA or anyhing, despite people makign that suggestion, because that's how you deal with the problem. He also made posts about women being enslaved, women being lesser beings, etc but absolutely refused to approach a girl or annything like that, and also had a bit of a superiorirty complex. He admited that his superiority complex was mostly just his way to cope with the fact that he was boring, and had no friends.
THis one is a doozy. He is most notable for saying he was going to kill himself, and then trying to do so. His mom found him, took him to the hospital, and he did his mandatory stay at a Psych ward. He styed there for about a week or so, and when he cam out he was seemingly doing better. However, he went downhill very very quickly. He has had sex at least twice in his life, now and has made matches on tinder but continues to post on /r/incels about how there's no hope for him, he's so ugly and stuff. It does not actually make any of the users on /r/icnels happy, because he's had sex, and he has potential, but he keeps complaining and insisting that he is totally an incel when he isn't (by their standers).
Age: early-mid 20s
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Gonna drop some screencaps of their insanity
/u/Bananabeemreloaded thinking of getting women addicted to drugs.
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/u/thefaimprovementaccount, being upset that some cashier didn't look her in the eyes, so he wished she was hurt in someway
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/u/angryman411 making another Elliot Rodgers dick sucking post.
they absolutely worship ER in this sub because he "did what they don't have the courage to do", aka he had the same sense of entitlement that they have and the same concept of "WOMEN SHOULD APPROACH ME, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND" that they have in the sub as well.
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another from /u/angryman411, but on his old account, /u/sadpatheticloser2, in it he thinks women should have their clits cut off
but women totally can't tell he's got issues going on and avoid him because of that.
>Those are the premium girls. The category of supreme women, very rare to find.
Such women do not even think about sex, that's how pure they are. Their minds are not depraved. They are modest, humble, vulnerable, innocent, pure, prudish, docile and feminine. Other things that might reflect her personality: STEM related education; at least a master degree from a research university high up in the global uni rankings; preferably someone who is interested in plants and nature just like me; she should be able to play the piano; they have dark-colored hair and eyes because that is more trustworthy; doesn't like traveling to other continents besides Europe; not interested in politics; and no makeup, dyed hair, piercings, tattoos or other artificial additions.
I deserve such a woman. It's such a tragedy that women are so different from what I desire and I've met very few women who meet the above listed requirements
holy shit. https://m.reddit.com/r/Incels/comments/5axm6v/25_female_virgins/
>>193126>I deserve such a woman.
Yeah I'm sure the guy who wrote that is a real catch
himself. A real 10/10.
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I really want the whole community to be a joke but I think some of them are genuine.
Pic related, very empathetic fellow.
I don't understand these men that want to find "vulnerable, innocent, pure, prudish" women but their intents are purely the opposite; they want to get their dick wet. I've heard guys on similar forums call these kind of women as "supreme" "top prize" "goddess". They deify women while simultaneously demonizing them. If women gave them any form of attention they'd drop everything and sperg over her, kissing her feet. >>193093
This was a fucking cashier at a pharmacy, and he wishes for her to be tortured and killed. Imagine if this guy got actually rejected by a woman.
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Had to go digging for this, but this is a video of /u/bF8211, who claims that he is incel and what not becuse he has thin wrists (something about women are psychologically don't find thin wrists attractive because it's feminine)https://www.dropbox.com/s/z9e7k11ruh5bhvi/dont%20give%20hate%20a%20chance.wmv?dl=0
Most of these guys seem to have these delusionally high standards that they think exist. What's weird (because I used to actually talk to guys sort of like this when I was younger and bored on the internet) is they determine all these personality traits just by looking at a girl a few times. I can't imagine how they would react if, by chance, they got a girl like that and then she "ruined" everything by being human.
And well researched, OP.
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He isn't ugly, so the only reason he is incel is because he must have the ugliest fucking personality, and since he posts on incel, well, we know it's true. They're self-absorbed, entitled, worthless man babies.
They can be average looking as him and have no chances because as soon as they open their mouths women will run. I know some truly ugly guys that have GF because they are pleasant and friendly and kind and funny. Talking to these fuckers must be as fun as having explosive diarrhea.
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oh it's definitely his personality, he once got upset because a female regular once said that she didn't like when homeless men hit on her and he thought she was up on her high horse and everything for not wanting to fuck a homeless person.
here's his last attempt of trying to lose his verginity before he got deployed
What's funny about these guys is that they get all pissy when women have any kind of standard but they have the highest ones of all. It'd be nice to think it was some defense mechanism ("I can't get a girl because none are up to my standards!") but the truth is they are truly delusional.
I did lol at that girl who pretended to be deaf though.
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what would be creepy guys without wanting to fuck teenagers
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>>193093>she was tall and blonde and probably one of the most popular girls in her school>boyfriend was captain of the football team
I love how incels have this high school mentality that they never grow out of. It's like they've all watched one too many shitty YA romance movies.
God, these guys are so pathetic it makes me want to puke.
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forgot about this person. /u/kincel is a totally real girl, who just happens to agree with everything incels in the subreddit say and totally isn't just some sad guy pretending to be a girl.
>>193372>>admits he couldn't hear shit over loud music>>claims girl faked being deaf when, in reality, she probably tried to signal that she couldn't hear him over…the same loud music he couldn't hear over.
The lack of social intelligence and self-awareness is astounding. Then again, I suppose it's needed if you want to claim yourself as an eternal victim of circumstance.
>>drink a whole bottle of Scotch on my own
A guy who doesn't seem to go out much, paid for and drank an entire bottle of scotch on his own…in a club…straight out of a fucking film where the guy doesn't get the girl so he tries to drown his sorrows at the local bar. The only bit missing is the eccentric old man sitting nearby who starts doling our life advice about how he reminds him of himself when he was that age blah, blah, blah.
>>Phone is blowing up at this moment too
Trying to indicate that he has friends, but yet still went to a club by himself? SureJan.jpeg
>>Taxi driver must have realized I was military
How does a taxi driver see an awkward drunk guy stumbling around an alley and think "he's in the military" instinctively.
>>Free taxi ride
>>Slept for 16 hours straight
The last bit is the only realistic part of this bullshit story.
OP god bless you for this thread
I would include TimRattayGotScrewed in the list, tbh. He's been around for a very long time (I remember him whining on r/FA how no girls shared his autistic obsession with sports). And maybe caamib, the orginal creator? He's banned or has deleted but his wordpress blog is still online
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r/Incels are robots, not like anybody didn't know this already though.
But apparently "normies" ruined that board so they moved to reddit, which is apparently less normie than 4chan.
That image…>"some think that government should provide subsidized access to prostitutes and similar programs"
Lol, not with my tax dollars incucks!
I doubt any of this even remotely happened. He probably stole half of this from the video of that girl who pretending to be deaf at a club when some guy was rubbing up on her.
Sorry for the shit music playing. I couldn't find another link.
TheFAIMprovementAccount also has a YouTube called "kyle incel" where he vlogs about his inceldom and being ugly.
But the biggest plot twist is that he is quite handsome, and clearly has body dismorphia:https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCwGof4wfGoLbXIMKxVQniHA
I'd post an individual video, but they aren't that interesting. Apparently someone called the cops on him because he said he was going to commit suicide in one of his vids.
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today's stupid shit from pqwer. when are his parents going to punish him and disconnect his internet and confiscate his phone
I love how they flip the fuck out and call men cucks as if being a 25 year old lossless virgin is superior. The level of denial and cognitive dissonance is almost scary when you remember they are real men not just elaborate trolls.
'I can't get a woman to even hold my hand because I'm a raging asshole but if they did fawn over me like I think they should, I'd brand her and psychologically torture her because I'm a superior man. Women should just give me the chance to treat them like scum it's not fair'
Oh shit that guy is pure gold. He goes on about how he's not a stalker or really going to commit the mass shootings he threatens and then cries like a six year old when someone says 'don't do that'
All the reasoning capability and emotional regulation of a retarded chimp.
I'd love to see photos of him, I wanna know if he looks as tragic as I think he does.
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bananabeem is saying he's going to kill himself again. this literally happens every three days.
roll to end it
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YOGA PANTS ARE OPRESSING ME!!!!!!!
holy fucking shit men like this should be castrated
that's actually horrifying
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Here's one of this guy's murder threats.
>I then sent her a text that said "I mean it this time. I'm going to go on a murder spree. I'll go to a gun show, get a gun, and go into a building and kill indiscriminately. Killing myself won't be enough. I have to inflict my pain on other people. It's not fair that other pepper are happy with their own place, and I have to be broke, and in pain. I will get my revenge on the world. "
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I found this guy's latest alt, and he is riding the waves of paranoia. He believes he has been outed as an incel because a girl unfriended him on Facebook.
Sometimes I wonder if it's a catch 22 with these dudes. Are they potential murderers because of the way they were treated? Have they always been this way and thus are lost causes. Will they feel resentment when they start behaving like a normal person and are then treated like a normal person? Will that resentment continue to fester if they miss therapy visits (like he did). When will the flip switch? Is there a switch to flip?
A lot of these dudes sound like they're on the spectrum, so when things go wrong, even minor ones, they tend to flip their shit because their routine is messed up. They dont know how to cope with these changes in a rational manner, so they flail about in extreme ways? I kind of sympathize with them about that, but god damn does it make them seem like a giant fucking time bomb. Especially when they act out in the way he did… talking about mass murdering people.
I'm sure he genuinely felt bad about it later, but it is also a testiment of how little of impulse control a lot of aspies have. They let their chemical emotions influence their behavior to much.
But a lot of their issues are fixable. Therapy, medication, diet, etc can work wonders.
And lbr, most people on the spectrum don't blame half the population for their problems, or post essays about branding women. There's more going on with these guys than just autism.
>I'd give up my apartment if it meant having a girlfriend.
I'd rather live in sub-Saharan Africa with my wife and 3 kids than alone in the United States.
Normies can go fuck themselves. They'll never know what it is like to be rejected by 100% of the world's population, so they'll laugh their ass off as you play another game of Russian Roulette because you are lonely.https://reddit.com/r/Incels/comments/5bbibz/homeless_beggers_are_such_whiners/d9n68x6
imagine being this fucking dramatic
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>ITT: Roasties roasting their future (beta) providers
Women's suffrage was a mistake
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Whore with yoga pants detected
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>>194012>flunk out of STEM Majors
Yea what use is a husband who can't provide for you after your "wild years" are over ?
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At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter.
This isn't the 1950's.
In all honesty these guys could become the next Jonestown and it wouldn't be sad.
They're as bad as the Hartley hooligan spuds.
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>>194110>This isn't the 1950's.
What did she mean by this?
Also I'm not involuntarily celibate. So I guess I'm a /volcel/ if that exists…
What did I mean when I said "this isn't the 1950's"?
I mean that women don't have to rely on men to support them. I was making fun of your shitty comment.
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>>194119>I mean that women don't have to rely on men to support them
You think you are independent and "need no man"?
Guess what, you just replaced your man with the state, and men still pay for you, just by proxy (taxes). Single moms are the biggest recipients of welfare. Where is your god now, roastie?
This incel logic is too much for me.
I've been with the same guy for 4 years.
Lol why is partying and having fun seem as such an evil thing for women to do, according to incels?
Like, they can't have friends or go to parties, so they hate people who do?
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>>194132>>194129>Oh yeah they sound like columbine fanboys for sur
Projection much, roasties? It is you who gets totally wet by these alpha males, not men!
It's more like you have no redeemable qualities yet insist on women who meet your asinine requirements (see) >>193126
And besides,what kind of man doesn't want to provide for the woman he cares about? If you insist on a pure virgin housewife who will never ever step out of line, you can't be a useless NEET.
Flunking out of school and not being able to hold a job also reflects poorly on your character. It shows that you are lazy and weak minded, qualities that no woman wants to deal with.
They're obsessed with the idea that any woman having fun/sex/a life with anyone who isn't themselves as a huge insult and some act of warfare between the sexes.
They literally can't understand that nobody owes them anything because they aren't the special, entitled little precious boys they think they are. It's a case of 'well if I'm too gross to get my dick wet I'll punish everyone who's more successful at any endeavour instead of improving myself'
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>>194135>One of these incels is allegedly under investigation by the FBI
Better add him on kik, soon he will be a valuable commodity in the dating market ;)
Lmao right right. I forgot that you kissless virgins are unable to distinguish individual women from the one image of a girl you have in your lonely imagination.
Besides, the point made was that you idiots are more likely to cry and threaten or commit a shooting not fuck a shooter.
Lmao right right. I forgot that you kissless virgins are unable to distinguish individual women from the one image of a girl you have in your lonely imagination.
Besides, the point made was that you idiots are more likely to cry and threaten or commit a shooting not fuck a shooter.
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>>194136> It's a case of 'well if I'm too gross to get my dick wet
Getting your dick wet is easy. The hard part is doing it with some girl who isnt a skank.
Coincidentally this is also the only part Islam is right on
>>194140> forgot that you kissless virgins are unable to distinguish individual women from the one image of a girl
N.A.W.A.L.T may may
>The point made was that you idiots are more likely to cry and threaten or commit a shooting not fuck a shooter.
What can I say? Men get shit done, women just cry for attention. Source: Successful suicides vs attempts by gender
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Agreed. Thirsty betas are a scourge. Ironically, It is they themselves who have inflated the value of pussy up till the point that they get none. This is what happens when you grow up without a strong father figure.>>194147
I dont browse reddit, I hate PUAs/TRP and therapy only works for meme disorders.
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It is true that robot philosophy overlaps quite a bit with TRP but there are still some key differences (The whole "incel" thing for example).
I actually learnt about the NAWALT term a few days ago and I must admit it sums it up pretty well.
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i all sir thought that someone linked this thread to one of those idiots but if it had been linked they would've made an entirely new post on /r/incels about it
anyway, no one mentioned this early but look at angryman411's divine light shit
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Joke's on you though, women love being dominated.>>194158
I am just trying to use terms you would understand
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For someone who browses /r/incel so much you would expect to know more about them. I would get banned there in a heartbeat.
In fact my reddit acc was banned already now that I think of it.
Anways im off to play BF1 take care cows.
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Nice cherry picking.
So glad you'll never have a chance to have kids. Your bloodline needs to stop.
My fucking sides. Hope all your shitposting got your self esteem up the way you needed incel anon. Good luck getting a woman to hold your hand tho. Enjoy your pseudo intellectualism and dank may mays.
They're stuck in the 30's and still believe that they have ~superior intelligence because dicks~
It's a pity those superior brains of theirs can't comprehend basic human norms.
They make memes like these and then fail to acknowledge that marriage was a concept made by men, to literally own a woman. Even today marriage still contains most of its original foundation of a man "owning" a woman: she takes his last name, she has to wait for him to propose, the ceremony is about her joining his family.
Either men are strong, intelligent and independent master race Alphas or they are weak betas who are easily tricked by the evvull wimmmins into marrying them and being their financial slave forever. You can't have it both ways robots.
what means being an alpha that keeps the women in the marriage? the only way to do this proporly is by social shaming and/or beatings.
marriage is about loyalty from both parties, that loyalty is something that is not defined by the person you are with but the values of yourself.
womans do not need to take the mens name, my mother did not do it and the ceremony is about the joining of the two families, and gathering of old friends.
i am living in europe btw.
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>All this attention the robot got
I am so embarrassed for my gender
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how socially retarded can you be, holy shit
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this is the shit kills me - he only cares about this chick not talking to him anymore because he's lost someone to vent to. he doesn't care that what he said is horrifying, he only cares she's ignoring him.
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TIL "incel face"
Yeah, they're by far the most obnoxious of those forums, they somehow have an even bigger superiority complex than the rest, despite their entire beliefs being "Women will only like you if you look like this".
Not to mention the insane amount of photoshops of random guys trying to make them all look identical, as if only one sort of attractiveness exists.
I am fascinated by their "face morphs" and obsession with the dimensions of their faces.
Like, the body dismorphia on that site is insane. One of their eyes will be 2mm lower than the other, and suddenly its time to see the plastic surgeon.
Yeah, it's probably one of the worst even for its users, I could absolutely see it causing even worse insecurity than the other incel sort of forums.
It's like they took the /r9k/ "women only want Chad!" shit, took it way too seriously and literally and then decided that unless you look like an exact copy of this one male model, you won't be liked or considered attractive.
But then they post pictures of other people who they go on about how they're so attractive, and yet don't fit those standards at all.
It's just bizarre, especially how they ignore the cost of all that surgery they all say they'll get.
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You think any of these guys are actually good looking? My fetish is imagining them (just heard of this reddit I used to go to /r9k) as some bretty hit skinny too guy that I save lol. Pic unrelated.
Sorry on mobile
The thing is, their body dimorphism is so intense, that I bet a lot of them are quite handsome, but are so far gone to see it. Like, faimprovementsaccount or whatever the fuck is good looking. His YouTube was linked in this thread, and he's handsome. But in his videos, he sobs about how he is too ugly to have friends.
Their mental illnesses are totally eclipsing any potential that they have.
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No. He is insane.
people are entitled to the gov meets their needs, soo he thinks he is entitled to the same.
it is not a bad thinking, but what he is failing to realise is that sex will not fix the void.
there was a post that someone responded to me but got deleted, it says something about how food/water are needs that are essensial because people die if they do not meet said needs.
well that is true but you know that humans also need social confort? their mental health without it will decrease and people will suffer and have a chance of die.
not merely sex but intimacy is what males crave in that aspect.>>194407
do you really think that anyone will help these people? adult males in this situation are said to man up and just be yourself, nothing more than this.
then why we pay the tax that go to single mothers, hobos and other kind of poor people?
they are also weak since they cannot make money or have other form of problem.
at least these males can support themselfs
Mental illness can be treated.
Being lonely and not getting your dick touched won't kill you. If you're depressed because you are lonely, then you can see a therapist or make lifestyle changes to improve.
But incels think that the government should force women to date them??? That's insane. The solution to your loneliness isn't to force people to be around you.
Taxes help the less fortunate because it is in he best interests of society, and everyone has human rights. Single mothers can get assistance, because society has decided that children should be taken care of. We help the homeless because again, they have human rights, without food they will die, and their homelessness can often be turned around by tending to their personal issues (ex: addiction).
You won't die from not having sex. And since society values bodily autonomy, you can't force anyone to fuck you.
>>194420>well that is true but you know that humans also need social confort? their mental health without it will decrease and people will suffer and have a chance of die.
Social comfort is not the same as a romantic relationship. They're not isolated from people, they interact with people constantly on their forum, most talk about having friends and family.
If they literally just sat inside all day and never interacted with anyone I'd agree that they would be at risk, but that's not the case.
>do you really think that anyone will help these people? adult males in this situation are said to man up and just be yourself, nothing more than this.
Please don't talk about therapy if you're just going to spout stupid and outright false stuff like this, it doesn't help anyone and it just makes you look dumb.
All sorts of therapy, from basic CBT helping them learn to cope with thoughts that they're worthless and without hope, therapy that teachers them social skills and many others ranging up to sex surrogacy teaching them to be more comfortable getting into sexual situations are available.
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>>194401>>194400>I would definitely still have misogynistic views>what I want to accomplish is just spreading hatred for women and chads>just kill her
You mean to tell me this guy ISN'T having sex??
i was not talking about therapy i do not have any experience with that, i was talking about what people do to help.>>194425
you respond to me saying the weak should die, then you say the weak should be taken for.
why are you dividing the people you want to help.
i am all for bodily autonomy and i am not saying i need or want anyone to fuck with me.>>194423
that is right but what i am defending is that these people should be helped by the gov same way the other people are.
but they aren't because they are good cogs in the system or because they are expandable.
But they also don't want to see prostitutes, so I don't know what these guys want for a quick fix.
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>Severus Snape (an incel)
Being a lossless virgin is not a disability.
Being so autistic/sociopathic/antisocial that you think you're entitled to 1 free sex anytime you please and any woman who won't bang you is clearly an std-infested Chadslut that you want to murder, however, IS a disability and you can get help for that through counseling, therapy and medication.
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Someone should tell her about /r/incels
They want hot girls to be obligated to love and fuck them despite being emotionally repulsive people who will not reciprocate in any way.
These dudes can't even see an attractively dressed girl on the bus without busting a load in their pants but it's her fault for dressing "slutty" and how dare she give me a dirty look for staring at her while pitching a tent in my dirty sweatpants???
they hold the belief that women can't actually tell when people have shitty personalities because some women are in abusive relationships, and that that is proof that they don't give off some weirdo vibe irl when they say they don't talk to people, don't have hobbies, don't have friends, and barely interact with people >>194448
lol they get so mad and complain how it doesn't count
/u/thefaiimprovementaccount: has had sex twice, his dick sucked once, and has gotten tinder matched before but still complains that he's incel, that women hate him, etc etc
/u/robotninethousandone (he's been deleted for a minute): he had sex once, but says that it doesn't count because the girl was drunk and she probably wasn't even that in to him and she only slept with him because he was around and it wasn't that good
/u/know_what_fvck_this: has had sex before, still complains about chads and incel shit and how women are so disgusted by them
/u/qwerty1234 (one of the mods): says you can be incel if you haven't had sex in six months, thus he is incel
qwerty1423 has some long ass story about how he was used by some girl, and now he has some baggage which is understandable but he refuses to let it go https://www.reddit.com/r/Incels/comments/52b73w/why_normie_advice_is_bad_for_incels_the_story_of/
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This didn't happen
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>>194490>Lolcow>Full of bottom-tier women
And yet we're still "too good" to fuck most of these guys.
of course they didn't read the whole thread. The post was only made because "oh look a website is talking about us, what a bunch of jealous bitches" just like all the other cows do
I hope that fat indian guy gets paranoid and remakes again because of our "doxxing"
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ITT: Lonely obese women make fun of lonely virgin guys.
No winners, but what a competition. lmao
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TFW you find out there's a community of virgins who are as pent up as you are fat.
You gals should be rushing in to score some dick.
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These guys are so stupid that they can't identify a troll post
I don't think they fully understand what this thread is doing. They're responding to bait posts.
Somebody should explain what milk is and why this site loves it so much when the cows come home.
Let's place our bets on when our visiting incel troll will break and start posting murder threats!
I say, he'll move on to the threats in ~30mins.
Ikr. It is clearly a hail Mary tactic to troll, but it isn't going to work.
This is a thread about incela, for fuck's sake. The guys who want to fuck their sisters and threaten suicide because a stranger didn't smile at them will never make me feel bad about myself.
Cashiers don't throw me into a depression spiral, so I'm okay.
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/u/obsoletedreams was the mystery troll.
I fucking called it!
Did they really think admin was gonna let them shit up a thread? IF you hate fatties so much you can sperg out in the fat hate thread in /b/.
So someone was like "if you hate women so much why don't you try dudes?" And this guy was like "okay"
Why can't they do that when people tell them to get therapists??? Like, is pretending to be gay easier than seeing a shrink?????
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Does this retard know these are both girls?
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And from the few pics that I've seen of these guys, they aren't even ugly. The ones who have posted pics are anywhere from average to handsome.
But they are so convinced that they're ugly, and that they can't escape it.
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A lot of lolcow users are ana-chans retard, theres even a fat hate thread in /b/
Gave me a case of the sads, too. I'm the one that found it and I don't even want to go back. >expected a bunch of fun autistic stuff>got some disturbing as fuck poz story
He can't even be normal anymore because he has to live with the fact he did this.
I'd like to know more about the experience for him tbh. I wonder if any of the more moderate incels would talk about this with us if this thread was in /b/>>194589
I think some of them have different standards for looks and are sad about not meeting them. Like some of them think they have to be 6'0 and ripped af to look good, but there are plenty of girls who hate the muscular look and want a shorter guy.
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This _ryo_hazuki guy provides some quality cringe
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I think AngryMan is the most batshit incel
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hopefully they don't sperg out and private the sub. >>194598
he's the crown jewel of the subreddit, and not just because he's indian>>194601
lol now that i think about it wouldn't asha count as incel?
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I doubt most of these guys are intended for breeding purposes. Even if they look ok they probably have serious autism. it has nothing to do with modern women though they are all genetic trash.
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I hope to god that's a troll and some incel didn't just use "tard wrangler" unironically.
It was BananaBeem
He wasn't a troll.
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29 year old manchild whines that he can't have the love life of a god damn chinese cartoon.
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This "Chad" archetype… do they really think that is what most girls want? A douchey dude bro with muscles? And if they, hypothetically "became Chad" they would obviously just attract girls that are attracted to shitty dudebro personalities & superficial values.
Incels want to change their height, weight, face, dick, but what they don't realize is the problem lies in their vile personalities.
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They are kind enough to correct the info in our post! Thanks, incels!
No one is stalking them. We are laughing at their insane posts on reddit.
Which incel are you?
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More cringe gold out of _ryo_hazuki but I promise this is the last one I post.
He is taking a drug FOR TRANNIES in an attempt to grow his hair back even though he claims he isn't a tranny. He didn't learn basic sex ed shit until he was in this twenties and learned on 4chan and he has weird fantasies that he likes to share that often have a creepy amount of detail.
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A delusional incel thinks someone here wanted to fuck him.
And he clearly didn't read the thread, because no one wanted to fuck him.
But he is right, his post history is scary and hilarious.
You sound like one of them describing their "women farms" fantasies or some shit.
Let's be real, they need therapy, self esteem, and social skills.
It's because of my post here >>194391
What a dumbass.
1) I didn't reply to his post
2) it's a fantasy and I have a boyfriend. I just like to masturbate to this stuff.
3) would never make a Reddit account kek
What do fatties have to do with my thinking incels would sensibly be fans of eugenics?
Idc about fat people until they take up my seat or healthcare, or start saying they've ever been oppressed.
Incels don't have anything to do with fatties?
If you kill what you find weak, another kind of weak will emerge.
eugenics by defenition will lead to death of everyone.
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Why do they think calling somewhat fat is the best roast in the book?
Makes me sad that they only think like three different type of people exist in the world. When you hate all of them you have literally no hope at all. I work with the public and meet dozens of new people every single day, have conversations about their lives, and learn a lot about human beings in general, it's bizarre to me that they really think people can be categorized as either beta fag, chad, and evil succubus. The way they view the world, their paranoia, pessimism, self-loathing, it's all in their head. They think everyone they're ever going to interact with is like a character archetype, and the world just has it out for them.
Oh yeah oops. well embarrassments anyway. Some are skinny and just as insecure about it.
Considering the user bases are largely western there's gonna be loads of fat users on each.
My mistake. >>194689
I agree with you entirely. I'm not a eugenics supporter it's just that these guys discuss it but would make up a large target group if eugenics was instituted.
Projection from the fat guys.
From the rest, it's the only insult that doesn't also describe them. Plus a lot of them seem to think the only 'real women' are the ones who look like models.
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They kind of remind me of the psychotic feminists that think all men are inherently cruel and evil and society just inherently has it against them. Similar victim blaming, similar paranoia, etc. I once saw a feminist post saying men should be reduced to cattle and farmed for their semen for reproduction and should have no rights otherwise, similar to these crazy guys saying women should be treated the same.
I'd love to see a side by side comparison of the insane posts that are basically the same just switching men and women. I'd do it but I can't stomach going through this shit, it's fucking venomous.
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I think it's just one or two super autistic ones that post the fat images. They said some true things in their little thread about our thread like socially awkward and mentally unstable but they are way worse than us and doing super degenerate shit like turning into trannies and gay sex. Plus we have a more fun attitude. I can't believe they think we are comparable to them.
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We're gossiping, laughing at cows, enjoying drama, shit talking, making fun of cows ridiculous behavior-they talk about how the world is against them, barely restraining themselves from raping and murder, and constantly contemplating suicide.
Unrelated, I find it funny how many people come here and think this is the nastiest, most hate-filled site out there when shit like r/incels exist.
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>make new fb account
>search for women like I'm browsing recipes
> ask total stranger if she'd like to hop on my dick
>she's offended. Tells me to eat shit
>offer to buy her dinner in exchange for sex. I would be kind to her.
>functional people laugh because I ask strange women for sex in exchange for goods
>I don't understand
>mfw they are clearly chads and the woman is a evil succubus because she wouldn't allow me to solicit sex in exchange for tendies
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Honestly they all should just watch Mob Psycho 100 and learn that in life you've gotta hustle. If they shutdown the idea of self improvement, lowering standards, or at the very least getting therapy then its a wrap.
I lowkey used to be incel but I realized I his hitting a wrong demographic of women for a long time and on top of that I didn't recognize some fatal faults in my character.
I really hope some of these guys meet a male mentor or something because getting caught up so hard over girls is a real waste of mental and emotional energy.
Therapy is useless for an incel. Talking to someone isn't going to make you more attractive.
What incels need is cosmetic surgery. Short guys have limb lengthening surgery, balding and bald guys have hair transplant surgery, ugly guys have things like rhinoplasties and jaw implants. This is the only type of self-improvement that is worth it for unattractive incels.
No, they need therapy for BDD, pretty obviously. They inflate flaws that everyone has to huge levels and convince themselves they're the ugliest people alive despite them generally being pretty average. No-one thinks you're ugly for being 5'9, pretty much every guy will go bald at some point and isn't really a big deal to any but the most shallow people, and as I said, most aren't ugly in the slightest. I've not ever seen an ugly person posted there.
They need to go get therapy, and stay the fuck away from forums like that that don't do anything but reinforce their unhealthy world views.
You should stay over on your shitty forum if you're not willing to seek help though, it's blatantly obvious that you came from there.
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It isn't that talking to someone is going to make you "attractive", it is going to give you a different perspective and straighten out some coginitive distortions said Incel has.
All a person has to be is average to meet another average person (ie. woman). Literally people that have the whole Alpha Beta paradigm stuck in their heads have little to no perspective. You need to eat somehow and your gonna have to develop a personality because realistically anyone that spends the bulk of their time on /r/incel is completely devoid of one and they have to huttle up and suck each other off and tell each other "I am terrible aren't I? Why yes! You are terrible!".
Dog, there are a bunch of unattractive niggas that I've met in my life that have ate. If being attractive is such a damn problem just forget about women entirely and just go about life regardless. It isn't like you NEED a woman, you just WANT one.
The problem isn't how they look, the problem is the absolute lack of reason, emotional regulation, non existent self-esteem, and a sense of entitlement bigger than the Pacific Ocean.
A nose job or a hair transplant isn't going to solve it. Manlet is nothing but a meme these guys take too seriously in order to blame anything other than their shitty personalities.
You are just assuming incels have BDD. Most could just be unattractive. And no one on r/incels has said they are short at 5'9, it's always guys 5'7 and under saying so, with most of the ones complaining being 5'2-5'5. Which is a massive disadvantage.
It is true most men eventually go bald, but that doesn't change the fact men balding in their 20s tend to be less desirable on average.
And about 3-4 people on r/incels have posted pictures of the 60-ish posters. There is no proof that most are average, just that the average looking ones are more likely to post a picture.>>194748
You are right you just need to be average. However, if you fall under the minimum looks requirement a person has, personality means nothing. For those that fall under every woman's minimum of attractiveness, surgery is the type of self-improvement worth it.
And you don't need a woman in the sense you will die without one, but prolonged involuntarily loneliness will make just about anyone unhappy. The more time goes by, the less happy they will be.>>194749
The lack of self esteem is from being unattractive. Which most claim is the case and I haven't seen any reason to believe otherwise.
Lack of reason, entitlement and emotional regulation might be a problem with some, but not all.
And manlet isn't just a meme, height is about the most important for a man to have. How much women prefer tall men is pretty common knowledge.
Emotional regulation and social skills seem to be the biggest lacking feature for the users and I've read a couple of hundred threads there dude. the ones that aren't screaming about how they are owed sex and governments should give them free rape drugs and lingerie models in chastity belts with their own branding iron just because they're lonely
The ones who aren't so obviously mentally ill are all way too obsessed with looks, and reading too far into the most minor social encounters just to find the shred of 'proof' that they're hopeless and doomed.
The lonely sad ones are just self-fulfilling prophecy and every minute spent engaging in their self obsession and posting about how shitty things are to a bunch of other people who lack the exact same skills and share the same self defeating fantasies.
Surgery won't help them because they aren't willing to consider any advice that doesn't come from people who are also just as stuck and miserable because it's not the advice they wanna hear.
I saw some average to decent pics on there. I think they just don't know that having a shit personality is a deal breaker.
Average looking guys who are funny can still get by. Decent looking guys who think they deserve to get their dick suck instead of developing a personality are going to chucked aside.
Height isn't even that much of a problem. Plenty of short women don't want someone who towers over them. Latching on the manlet thing just seems like a way for them to self-pity.
sage for anecdotal shit but my husband is five foot five. All his workmates are around the same and all of them are happily in relationships and not obsessing on the internet about how nobody could ever fuck them because they didn't grow an extra two inches.
It's the insecurity of the short dudes that wrecks them, not a few chicks with a preference for tall dudes.
>>194753>And you don't need a woman in the sense you will die without one, but prolonged involuntarily loneliness will make just about anyone unhappy. The more time goes by, the less happy they will be.
They need therapy. Other people can't be the source of your happiness. And you can't force women into relationships.>>194690
A lot of their world views are based on stereotypes. They think that women all want the same thing (chad) and think that having a personality is a meme. So, I think when incels are all "lololol u fat", they are trying to hit us where I "hurts", because they think we're all shallow, simple creatures.
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How on earth is this guy not drowning in pussy?
>>194753>You are just assuming incels have BDD. Most could just be unattractive.
Almost every pic I've seen someone going on about how ugly they are post has just been a picture of an average person.
>And no one on r/incels has said they are short at 5'9, it's always guys 5'7 and under saying so, with most of the ones complaining being 5'2-5'5. Which is a massive disadvantage.
That's a huge statement when you regularly see people call anything below 6' too short.
And you realise that literal midgets have relationships, right? As in people below 4'11. Fucking Danny Devito is in a successful marriage, and it's not money there, because she's just as rich as he is, if not more so, she doesn't need his money.
>It is true most men eventually go bald, but that doesn't change the fact men balding in their 20s tend to be less desirable on average.
Less desirable on average doesn't mean undesirable, and that's an incredibly dishonest way to argue.
>And about 3-4 people on r/incels have posted pictures of the 60-ish posters
Can you actually back this up? Because there's been at least that many posted in this thread alone, I really doubt those are all that ever have posted photos.
It's the complete refusal to listen to reason on anything that would get rid of their victim complex that makes them ridiculous. Not only that, but like fucking 14% of people at around 22 are virgins. They're not uncommon at all, they're just falling victim to sites like /r9k/ or /r incels that convince them that unless you look like a male model does in shoot (because any photo of a model on their insta will have makeup, editing, be a fucking great photo overall with a great camera, lighting, angles, all of that, not even actual models look as good as they do in photos) that no women will ever like you, and even if they date you, it's just for money and they'll cheat on you as soon as someone better looking appears.
They're surrounding themselves with a hugbox of people that as I already said, reinforce these unhealthy worldviews, and absolutely increase the severity of any disorders like BDD that they already experience.
It's ridiculous, and why they need a therapist, not a plastic surgeon. Their issues stem from personal insecurity and pressure from their peers on online forums, not from their jawlines.
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>>194773>She is a half-dead, unresponsive lump, incapable of giving or receiving pleasure or happiness; consequently, she is at best an utter bore, an inoffensive blob, since only those capable of absorption in others can be charming. She is trapped in a twilight zone halfway between humans and apes, and is far worse off than the apes because, unlike the apes, she is capable of a large array of negative feelings – hate, jealousy, contempt, disgust, guilt, shame, doubt – and moreover, she is aware of what she is (female) and what she isn't (male).
I'm happy I'm not that out of touch.
>>194774>Almost every pic I've seen someone going on about how ugly they are post has just been a picture of an average person.
I have seen literally 2 people on r/incels ever post a picture and claim to be ugly (angryman411 and FAimprovementaccount). 2 people aren't an accurate representation of the entire subreddit.
>That's a huge statement when you regularly see people call anything below 6' too short.
I've been browsing r/incels regularly since it's start and I can only remember 1 person over 5'7 claiming to be short (-CcCc at 5'11). Can you link a thread with a few people over 5'7 claiming to be short?
>And you realise that literal midgets have relationships, right?
And I'm sure finding someone for them was very difficult, which is why I said it's just a massive disadvantage. I don't think you can become an incel with just one bad trait, except if you have a very ugly face.
>Less desirable on average doesn't mean undesirable, and that's an incredibly dishonest way to argue.
It is an unattractive trait, like being very overweight. You're not going to end up alone forever just because you are bald, but it doesn't help when you have other unattractive traits. Baldness will only make you incel with other unattractive traits like being short or ugly.
>Can you actually back this up? Because there's been at least that many posted in this thread alone, I really doubt those are all that ever have posted photos.
There is one picture in this thread I'm pretty sure and that's BF8211.
Others that have posted pictures are FAimprovementaccount, angryman, caamib before getting banned and I think that is it. I don't think there is anyway to prove only 4-ish have posted pictures, you can prove if more than 4 have posted if you have a picture of them though.>>194774
>>194783>I have seen literally 2 people on r/incels ever post a picture and claim to be ugly (angryman411 and FAimprovementaccount). 2 people aren't an accurate representation of the entire subreddit.
You having seen something isn't the be all end all of if it exists, fuck off retard.
>I've been browsing r/incels regularly since it's start
>Can you link a thread with a few people over 5'7 claiming to be short?
Not a regular browser, but I've seen plenty claiming 5'8 and above as too short to be attractive, or that no woman will ever love you unless you're 6' because you're a manlet.
I don't really care enough about this argument to go find citations though honestly.
>And I'm sure finding someone for them was very difficult, which is why I said it's just a massive disadvantage. I don't think you can become an incel with just one bad trait, except if you have a very ugly face.
It's not really, they just date other short people. And you realise most dwarfs aren't exactly the best looking people, right?
>It is an unattractive trait, like being very overweight. You're not going to end up alone forever just because you are bald, but it doesn't help when you have other unattractive traits. Baldness will only make you incel with other unattractive traits like being short or ugly.
Shave your head and no-one cares anon. And you're doing the classic shit that people from that shit hole do and acting like attraction is some pro/con list that you have to meet of only physical factors. All sorts of shit impacts attraction, and no matter how much your cuck mentality (in the literal sense, that there are bulls, the cuckolds and then women, and unless you're a bull/chad no woman will ever desire you, I don't mean this in the meme way) tells you that it's otherwise, it won't change this.
You're once again changing the topic and trying to deflect from my point. You don't need to be attractive physically to find a partner. Almost everyone does, and most people there are like 22 and acting incredibly fucking melodramatic despite being a virgin at that age not being particular uncommon (as I said, around 13%).
They need therapy, not a plastic surgeon, because it's very obvious that it's their mindset stopping them from finding a partner, not anything else. Do you really think someone that spends all day complaining about how all women are evil subhuman whores who only want Chad will be able to hold a proper discussion with them, or be a nice person in real life?
Because legitimately kind people have no issues finding partners, regardless of looks.
As for who's posted pics, the people that >>194785
listed should show you that you don't have a comprehensive knowledge of it.
And seriously, when my claim is that they have BDD, going "well they claim they're ugly and you don't have proof they aren't" isn't exactly a compelling point. BDD isn't necessarily related to how you look, it's how you react to your looks. You create flaws, or exaggerate relatively minor ones to be huge life ending deformities.
You having seen something isn't the be all end all of if it exists, fuck off retard.
Then name 1 or 2 other people who have claimed to be ugly and have posted a picture.
>Not a regular browser, but I've seen plenty claiming 5'8 and above as too short to be attractive, or that no woman will ever love you unless you're 6' because you're a manlet.
Random claim. But that wasn't even what I saying, I was saying except for one person, no one has claimed they are short at 5'8+.
>It's not really, they just date other short people. And you realise most dwarfs aren't exactly the best looking people, right?
It's not hard for a male midget to date, lol what.
Most dwarfs are average looking from what I've seen.
>Shave your head and no-one cares anon.
Women do. I'll go from a 3/10 to a 2/10.
>You don't need to be attractive physically to find a partner.
But you do need to be physically attractive to them. And some aren't physically attractive to anyone.
>They need therapy, not a plastic surgeon, because it's very obvious that it's their mindset stopping them from finding a partner, not anything else.
Nope, that is just an assumption.
>Do you really think someone that spends all day complaining about how all women are evil subhuman whores who only want Chad will be able to hold a proper discussion with them, or be a nice person in real life?
Well 1. Yes, most can hide thoughts well and 2. that doesn't even apply to most on r/incels.
>Because legitimately kind people have no issues finding partners, regardless of looks.
>As for who's posted pics, the people that >>194785 listed should show you that you don't have a comprehensive knowledge of it.
lol, I missed one guy. I'm obviously not taking about a picture of a dick or body, so qwerty and eekkgg don't count.
Can you just go back to your virgins-only hug box?
Blah blah TLDR you all want to blame anyone else you can for your own social failings instead of going out and improving what you suck at. The reasons most of you guys will die having never been kissed isn't Chad or women or society it's you yourselves plain and simple.
You're as bad as the psycho feminists claiming they were raped by someone who said hello to them. Keep searching for new things to blame. It's no loss to anyone but yourself.
>>194789>Then name 1 or 2 other people who have claimed to be ugly and have posted a picture.
I linked a post where someone did.
>Random claim. But that wasn't even what I saying, I was saying except for one person, no one has claimed they are short at 5'8+.
Alright, well, it was clearly related to what I was saying.
>It's not hard for a male midget to date, lol what.
It's really not, they just date other similarly sized people.
>Most dwarfs are average looking from what I've seen.
Well that's just flat out false, because they look massively different to average people. To the point where it's a recognised symptom.
>Women do. I'll go from a 3/10 to a 2/10.
You do realise that this is a forum mainly inhabited by women, right? I'm telling you, people I know really don't care.
And I really doubt you're a 3/10 unless you have some deformities, I'd rank someone with down syndrome a 2 or 3/10.
>But you do need to be physically attractive to them. And some aren't physically attractive to anyone.
Then it's a good thing that people have types, and that their feelings towards you can impact how attracted to you they are.
>Nope, that is just an assumption.
It's really not. Almost all unattractive people find partners.
>Well 1. Yes, most can hide thoughts well and 2. that doesn't even apply to most on r/incels.
Most people can't hide strong feelings very well, that's a load of shit. When you believe that all women should be locked away and used as sex slaves, it tends to make it hard to have healthy relationships with them, and when you view all men as a threat to you, it tends to make it hard to have a healthy relationship with them too.
And as for if it applies to them, that's once again a load of shit, there's fucking heaps of examples in this thread of extreme cases, and most of the rest of the forum is that.
It's extremely rare to find someone there who says "Women have different tastes and I understand that and don't harbor any illwill towards them, I just feel like I wish I appealed to more of them I guess".
Naming random fallacies and acting as if they discredit an argument is in itself a fallacy. You need to explain how the argument itself is wrong or not logically sound.
>I'm obviously not taking about a picture of a dick or body, so qwerty and eekkgg don't count.
Nice shifting goalposts.
And as >>194791
said, why don't you fuck off back to your shitty forum? We don't want you here, no-one's taking you seriously or believing what you're saying, because it's fucking false, and we know it is because we experience the opposite side of what you're whining about (as in it's females saying your assumptions about women are bullshit).
Making yourself look better won't make you any more likeable, and no, the halo effect doesn't apply to this, that exclusively applies to photos of people, not when you've actually met and spoken to them.
>>194793>I linked a post where someone did.
They named bf8211, who claims social awkwardness as the reason they are incel and canino who claims it's because of his race in Turkey. Neither have said they are too ugly to date.
>Then it's a good thing that people have types,
Some aren't anyone's.
>and that their feelings towards you can impact how attracted to you they are.
Only if you pass their minimum of physical attractiveness.
If you don't, this is the result: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/36t8ys/does_anyone_else_feel_really_shitty_when/
>It's really not. Almost all unattractive people find partners.
Almost all, plenty still die without meeting anyone.
>Most people can't hide strong feelings very well, that's a load of shit.
I disagree, many are able to hide their strong feelings well, like a lot of suicidal people. Other than that, a lot on r/incels are just venting, how they are feeling at one time doesn't reflect how they are feeling at most or all times.
>And as for if it applies to them, that's once again a load of shit, there's fucking heaps of examples in this thread of extreme cases, and most of the rest of the forum is that.
If you think most on r/incels want to keep women as sex slaves, you haven't spent much time there. Those posts are pretty much always from the same 3 or 4 people.
>Naming random fallacies and acting as if they discredit an argument is in itself a fallacy. You need to explain how the argument itself is wrong or not logically sound.
The idea that every person who acts good will find someone is just bullshit. You really think every person who died without meeting someone was a bad person? If being a good person is so important, why are many rapists and murderers married or been in relationships?
>Nice shifting goalposts.
I was never talking about any picture.
I replied to "and as I said, most aren't ugly in the slightest. I've not ever seen an ugly person posted there." with "And about 3-4 people on r/incels have posted pictures of the 60-ish posters. There is no proof that most are average, just that the average looking ones are more likely to post a picture."
And the replies continued from there, I was clearly talking about a face picture.
>Making yourself look better won't make you any more likeable
I don't have a problem with how likeable I am, I have a problem with how attractive I am, looking better/ cosmetic surgery will fix that.
dude, just go no ne here actually cares and all you're doing is providing extra milk
anyway, i do think that some users in the sub aren't that bad or anything like the others, but hanging around the sub makes them look bad by association, and i do feel for some of them, severe anxiety or depression but that's only like a handful
>>194805>Some aren't anyone's.
That's a ridiculous claim. Are you seriously saying that they know no-one looked at them and thought they were hot?
>Only if you pass their minimum of physical attractiveness.
Once again, that's bullshit. As long as you're hygienic and take some basic care of yourself, that's enough for most people.
>If you don't, this is the result: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/36t8ys/does_anyone_else_feel_really_shitty_when/
That's another very dishonest point. She could simply not have found herself attracted to his personality, attraction isn't purely physical, though you can't get this for some reason.
>Almost all, plenty still die without meeting anyone.
Highest numbers I've ever seen is 1%, which would account for the seriously disabled and those who simply don't date.
>I disagree, many are able to hide their strong feelings well, like a lot of suicidal people.
Too bad that it's usually pretty obvious that something's up with someone who ends up offing themselves then, isn't it? The signs for that sort of shit are well known.
>Other than that, a lot on r/incels are just venting, how they are feeling at one time doesn't reflect how they are feeling at most or all times.
Wow yeah gee you sure got me there, I was merely pretending is a great argument.
>If you think most on r/incels want to keep women as sex slaves, you haven't spent much time there. Those posts are pretty much always from the same 3 or 4 people.
obviously I was naming an extreme example, but the argument that women are less than men and subhuman as a result is very, very common.
>The idea that every person who acts good will find someone is just bullshit
>You really think every person who died without meeting someone was a bad person?
Ignoring those who are disabled in some way, I don't really think there are people who never meet anyone. The few that would exist outside religious cults would likely be very bitter people.
>If being a good person is so important, why are many rapists and murderers married or been in relationships?
That's irrelevant, I didn't say that only good people will have relationships.
>And the replies continued from there, I was clearly talking about a face picture.
And I never specified, then you said "Only those people have posted photos", then shifted the goalposts to "Oh no, only those people (that I know of) have posted a specific sort of photo".
>I don't have a problem with how likeable I am, I have a problem with how attractive I am, looking better/ cosmetic surgery will fix that.
We're not talking about what you have a problem with, we're talking about other people here.
If you have an issue exclusively with your looks and blame them for all your problems, you almost definitely have BDD, that is one of the major signs with that particular disorder.
I really hope you know you're just providing more milk for the thread too, you're not changing anyone's mind here or posting some radical worldview, just the same dumb shit as literally every robot raid before you has.
You're just funnier because you take yourself so seriously, there's not even a hint of it being bait.
Ugly isn't the same as dehumanised.
Feeling like you need makeup isnt dehumanised. Conforming to social norms isn't dehumanising. What is your point supposed to be?>>194803
Is an idiot as well, saying they have to buy makeup and certain clothes and bla blah bla but they're right about effort in terms of grooming, actively socialising, and making the best out of what assets you've got.
Okay, so what are you doing to make yourself better looking so you can achieve that goal?
And please tell me you are also seeing a therapist if you are a /r/incels regular.
I'm saving up for a few surgeries, that and I'm getting in better shape.
I am a regular there but I'm not seeing a therapist yet. I probably will in the future for some mental health related things.
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>mfw I'll never be one of the losers arguing in this thread
A jaw implant, rhinoplasty and a eyelid surgery I forgot the name of. There are a few more I'm interested in but I think those 3 will make me average.
I'll probably try out therapy in a month just because it is recommended so much.
Eyelid surgery sounds a bit excessive. Like the only person I know who has gotten it was from Japan and wanted to appear "more" American. I don't remember what it's called either but I think it's referred to as an eye tuck?
I could tell you all about our cows but I want a sincere opinion on some of our cows and snowflakes.
How does it feel that Onision is gross and turning 31 but is buying teenage pussy? Are any incels desperate enough to date Asha? She'll take any white guy that believes she's a Berber.
I'd recommend CBT, possibly REBT. They're really useful skills to have just for handling life but they can be applied to a lot of situations and can really help with low self esteem. It's probably gonna feel ridiculous but stick it out. The results are worth feeling a little silly or vulnerable.
What are you gonna do if you can only access a female therapist? Is that gonna make it harder to give it a go?
$5 says that after those surgeries, you'll find some other physical flaw to obsess about.
What will you do if your life doesn't magically get better after plastic surgery?
I don't know much about anyone else here, I'm just here from r/incels. I do dislike Onision a lot though.>>194855
For sure, I'll still go but it will be a lot easier with male therapist.
That depends, if I become average/ able to attract some women and my life still isn't better, I'll look at other ways I can improve my life.
If even with surgery I can not become attractive to anyone I will probably just kill myself.
I'm pretty sure I'll be happy after a few surgeries though.
Nah, they're absolutely right. It's almost certain that once you get those surgeries, you'll still find yourself unhappy and insecure, and find something else you obsess over and blame as the reason you fail at whatever it is you want.
Not to mention you'll then be what, almost 30 grand in debt?
It's a silly choice to make before you do therapy, go see if they do think you have BDD first before you throw down that sort of money.
Don't you think that's a lot of pressure to put on yourself? You are willing to surgically alter your face BEFORE trying therapy, and if you still don't get a gf, you might kill yourself?
Do you even have a crush on a certain girl, or will any girl do? What if she doesn't want to be the "solution" to you life? What if she is looking for a partner, not to be the only reason you're alive?
I'm not one to talk people out of plastic surgery, but I agree with >>194859
Attractiveness isn't just looks and personality. Character matters too.
Why eyelid surgery? I'm assuming you have a weak jaw/strong nose combo? I'm curious as to what you look like, I can't imagine it really being that horrible.
I'm also amused with how friendly and almost supportive these other anons have seem to have become.
Yep, people like that tend to latch onto getting laid regularly as the key to being happy, but it really doesn't change much. If you're depressed and insecure, you're just going to be depressed and insecure in a relationship, plus all the insecurities that tend to come along with a relationship even for a normal person.
The fact that sex addicts exist and tend to be absolutely miserable people should act as a pretty good indicator that getting laid frequently doesn't make you happy and content with life, and that no matter how many people sleep with you, you won't like yourself anymore or feel anymore fulfilled.
>>194870>I'm also amused with how friendly and almost supportive these other anons have seem to have become.
I'm actually the person who was arguing with him earlier, and it's because he's legitimately just talking about his insecurities and admitting to probably needing therapy, instead of acting like he knows better than everyone and therapy is useless. It's so different I think it's probably a different person completely honestly.
People here are generally relatively caring if you're not acting like a robot or trying to bait I find.
I don't know, I can't think of a good answer. And yes I think it has effected my worldview, but I do think my opinions I've gotten from there are true or I wouldn't believe them.>>194865
I guess I'll go to therapy first then. Saving up will take a few years. And yeah, the debt will be bad. I'm not sure about BDD though, what if I am ugly and get diagnosed with it?>>194866
Yeah, I just realized waiting to get a few surgeries before trying therapy is pretty stupid. I'll try therapy is first.
If I don't have one girl attracted to me still, I don't see how I could be happy. And no, no specific girl, I will happy with any girl.
>What if she doesn't want to be the "solution" to you life? What if she is looking for a partner, not to be the only reason you're alive?
I don't know. It's not a good response but I haven't thought about this.
Yeah, weak jaw and strong nose. I want eyelid surgery because of my negative canthal tilts. I think it would make a big difference to have neutral or positive canthal tilts.>>194873
I'm still the same guy. And thanks to everyone being friendly.
>>194876>I guess I'll go to therapy first then.
Definitely do, it's a waste spending so much money on surgery if your issues are psychological instead of looks based and you end up in debt and having to go to therapy anyway after surgery.
>I'm not sure about BDD though, what if I am ugly and get diagnosed with it?
BDD isn't about how you look really, it's about you view yourself.
Have a read of these>https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/conditionsandtreatments/body-dysmorphic-disorder-bdd>People who have this illness constantly worry about the way they look. They may believe an inconspicuous or non-existent physical attribute is a serious defect. They respond to this by performing repetitive acts such as mirror checking or comparing their appearance with others. >The severity of BDD varies. For example, some people know their feelings aren’t rational or justified, while others are almost delusional in their conviction.
These are some of the symptoms listed on that page>thinking about the perceived defect for hours every day>worrying about their failure to match the ‘physical perfection’ of models and celebrities>constantly looking at their reflection or taking pains to avoid catching their reflection (for example, throwing away or covering up mirrors)>avoiding any situation they feel will call attention to their defect. In extreme cases, this can mean never leaving home>taking great pains to hide or camouflage the ‘defect’>wanting dermatological treatment or cosmetic surgery, even when professionals believe the treatment is unnecessary>repeat cosmetic surgery procedures, especially if the same body part is being ‘improved’ with each procedure>depression and anxiety, including suicidal thoughts.
Here's an even better read about it>https://www.adaa.org/understanding-anxiety/related-illnesses/other-related-conditions/body-dysmorphic-disorder-bdd>Most of us have something we don't like about our appearance — a crooked nose, an uneven smile, or eyes that are too large or too small. And though we may fret about our imperfections, they don’t interfere with our daily lives.>But people who have body dysmorphic disorder (BDD) think about their real or perceived flaws for hours each day.>They can't control their negative thoughts and don't believe people who tell them that they look fine. Their thoughts may cause severe emotional distress and interfere with their daily functioning. They may miss work or school, avoid social situations and isolate themselves, even from family and friends, because they fear others will notice their flaws.>They may even undergo unnecessary plastic surgeries to correct perceived imperfections, never finding satisfaction with the results.
Apologies that this turned out a bit long, but I'd really consider that you could have BDD, because all of these signs are really common in people who browse /r incel, and just from what you've said, it sounds like you probably have them yourself.
Like, to refer to >>194877
it's probably not worth spending thousands of dollars to change whether your eyes tilt up or not.
You really do seem like a different person, it's good you're willing to at least talk to people and listen to what they say now though.
>>194876>I don't know, I can't think of a good answer.
Maybe you should reflect on that. Do you think such a negative place would be a good source of comfort?
>If I don't have one girl attracted to me still, I don't see how I could be happy. And no, no specific girl, I will happy with any girl.
I think this is a big source of your unhappiness. How would you feel if you knew your SO decided to date you because "any guy would do"? Would you feel loved? Would you even think that the relationship was "real"?
I wouldn't. I wouldn't want to just fill the role of "gf" to some guy. I would want him to truly care about me, as a person. I would feel awful of my bf was like "I just want a girl to be attracted to me, so you'll do".
Do you really think there is some kind of golden ratio that you face should meet for you to be attractive? Do you honestly think that a stranger on the street notices the specific dimensions of your face?
I am fascinated by robots/incels who focus on their facial dimensions. A 2mm change in your cathal tilt won't be noticeable. Well adjusted people dont focus on that stuff.
To add to this, I wanted to highlight this symptom, because you mentioned believing stuff about your looks that support your point of view, which I assume means that you don't believe stuff that doesn't support it.
>constantly asking trusted loved ones for reassurance about their looks, but not believing the answer
If I was you, I'd try spending a week or two away from any forum like that, that focus on virginity or similar stuff, and see how you feel after that. The influence they can have is pretty massive on anyone, let alone someone who's already insecure.
Constant negativity is never healthy.
That is such a common behavior on /r/incels. The guy who is under investigation by the FBI frequently posts to /r/amiugly and then argues with people when they say no.
Then he usually threatens to murder them.
Yeah, you see plenty of them do it on other similar sites too, it's even common on /r9k/, which is probably the least extreme of the lot (compared to places like lookism or /r incel at least)
Only things that support their worldview can be correct, if it challenges it? It's obviously wrong.
It's even more obnoxious when it comes to looks I find, you get people like the one you're talking about who just refuse to believe that anyone could find them attractive, and then act like they need surgery, not therapy, despite fitting almost all of the signs of BDD.
I'm sure these places would make for a really interesting case study honestly, I'm sure similar has been done on pro-ana/mia sites, but these ones are slightly different, so I think it would be fascinating.
If anyone here has any formal education in psychlogy, I'd be really interested to hear what they thought about them honestly.
I match about all those symptoms, I'll look in to BDD a bit more. Thanks. >>194882>Maybe you should reflect on that. Do you think such a negative place would be a good source of comfort?
No, but I still do like the forum, I don't why.
>I think this is a big source of your unhappiness. How would you feel if you knew your SO decided to date you because "any guy would do"? Would you feel loved? Would you even think that the relationship was "real"?
>I wouldn't. I wouldn't want to just fill the role of "gf" to some guy. I would want him to truly care about me, as a person. I would feel awful of my bf was like "I just want a girl to be attracted to me, so you'll do".
No, you're right. That's a really good point.
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I just googled "canthal tilt" and half of the results on the first page are from sluthate
>this is what incels actually believe
Thanks. You seem like a reasonable guy. I'm actually enjoying this conversation.
I honestly believe that you should refect on why you like posting on /r/incels. Before you post there next, ask yourself "what is the purpose of this? Do these people care about me? Will they try to help me?"
Because I've seen them turn on members once they admit that they've had sex and are still miserable. They get quite hostile against their own. I don't really see /r/incels are a good support group, if that's what you're looking for.
Lbr, you've probably received more useful advice from us (a group of vile whores) than you ever have on /r/incels.
My major was in psychology (yes, I a post-wall hag), so here's two cents:
I think there is a lot of play with /r/incels, in a similar way to r9k. First of all, both forums are based off of "universal truths" which are essentially conspiracy theories (women only want chad, women want the best genes and hate you for being inferior, women all want the same thing, etc). These conspiracies ring true for incels, because with their lack of self esteem and untreated mental illnesses, it offers the perfect excuse for their situation AND it absolves them of any responsibility. It isn't their fault they're lonely, women (worldwide) judge them for their negative canthal tilt/poor genes/height. They were just born unlucky. Not only that, but the "system" is stacked against them; sex isn't "evenly distributed" to them, because they aren't chad.
Okay, so now that our hypothetical incel has identified with these worldviews, he starts to feel different. Here's a brand new group of peers, all as unlucky in life as you are. This group is finally telling the truth about society. You've been tricked your whole life, and this realization makes it easier to swallow the other, more batshit ideas. If there is a global conspiracy from women to only give sex to chad, is it really such a stretch to believe that women want to be abused? They must like it. They only go for chads, and think of all the bad things that chads have done throughout history! They keep going back to them!
Their worldviews get further reinforced when people troll them. It is validating the idea that the world DOES hate them, because they are incel. Incels know the truth about female nature, and it must be true if the "Normies" are getting so upset. Normies have a vested interest in protecting the sexual market place so they can secure the distribution of women, right?
So really, it is the perfect storm for a young, inexperienced, and lonely man to latch onto if he thinks that life is unfair. Suddenly there's this group that not only agrees with you, but they have proof that your loneliness isn't your fault! The world is just stacked against incels!
The "us against the world" theme is what cements the group together. That subreddit is probably the only place they have felt like they belonged, and that people were listening to them. Would you really want to leave the only group of people who told you "it isn't your fault"?
I'm not going to talk about the mental illnesses they might have, because I've never even spoken to them IRL. But, I think that the environment draws in a certain type of person who has no self esteem, is lonely, and looking for answers. Add that to the fact that /r/incels encourages violent discussion about their crazy theories about women, and I'm sure that those thoughts become normalized very quickly.
I realized that I have more to say.
/r/incels also never challenges their own theories. Any counterpoint is met with extreme hostility. So, if you're a fledgeling incel who thinks "wait, this whole 'the sexual marketplace is unfair' thing only makes sense if you believe that women have no free will" would you speak up, and risk being verbally beaten down? Would you risk alienating the only group of people who accepted you? I doubt it.
/r/incels also radicalizes ideas extremely quickly through their histrionic posts about women and society. They either lament their situation, and create a circle jerk or they post their wild theories and receive pats on the back. It is an environment that basically encourages the posting of radical ideas, while simultaneously suppressing any dissent.
Lmao incels are just fucking depressed on top of having a bunch of other problems (autism, anxiety and whatnot). They just chose to focus on the lack of sex to explain why they hate themselves so much and that's why they reject any solution that's not out of reach. Forget about grooming yourself or having some basic hygiene, THAT'S NORMIE ADVICE REEEEEE ! Let's rather check crazy plastic surgery methods. Does that reminds you of someone ? What about Pixytery's trip to Japan that's supposed to solve all of her problems ? Yeah that's not going to happen and they know that, that's why they prefer methods that they have no chance of achieving.
Little blog insert but that's me but with lack of money. I thought I was depressed because I had a huge cloud of money related problems but surprise, when I finally got around I was still depressed ! No shit !
They are also so self-centered that they can't have friends, learn normal social behaviour (who tf tell a girl friend he'd want her to be raped ?) and go outside to realise guys who get girls are not Chads, they're regular guys with regular problems who don't need to abuse women. Girls are not either madonnas out of reach or party bitch riding the cock carrousel. They don't want to be Chads but they want what they have, they want sex but they don't want the sluts willing to fuck, they want a gf but don't want to let go of their hate. In their imaginary world no one is happy, women hit a wall at 30, chads are dicks and normies are walking ATM.
They just want everyone to feel as bad as they are because they have the emotional capacity of a 4yo throwing a tantrum.
Their Chad spiel is right out of a typical bullshit american teen movie, it's golden. They spew these truths like they're from a fictional universe cause I sure as hell never ran into the typical Chad and most of my friend's bf are just nice average joes, tall or not.
I'd almost feel pity for them if they weren't borderline dangerous and advocating rape and murder, à la Elliot Rodger. They deserve to stay that way and avoid any social interactions.
Agreed cutedoge. I'm also convinced that most of them aren't stupidly ugly like they claim but their bitterness and hate at women just kinda shines through. It's really easy to spot someone who is really emotionally stunted.
If they just got their shit together, focused on being a better person, stopped blaming their problems on ALL women everywhere, they'd probably have more of a chance with a normal woman. (Not the supermodel they seem to think they all deserve obvs)
The irony is that all those women would just starfish and the sex would just horribly unenjoyable for both parties. Hookup sex isn't really that great unless you actually have a friendship with the person, and even then it can be bad. A lot of times it's the emotional equivalent of smash a barbie and a ken doll together.
The best and most fulfilling sex is the one where both parties are in a relationship with each other. There's a strong sense of trust and communication so both parties can get their needs met.
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canino1997 is back you guys, let the good times roll.
for those who don't know about him i'll give a bit of a rundown:
- half turkish/half german, lives in turkey and hadn't left his house for 4 years (until today)
- his mother, by his own words, was sexually, physically, and emotionally abusive but he believes that he would've dealt with it just fine were he a female
- he was the original founder of /r/incelabode, but the subreddit was banned and he was banned from reddit because it was filled with him posting things like having sex with disabled/comatose people shouldn't count as rape
- called for an actual incel uprising that involved murder and said that he hadn't done anything "yet"
- sympathized with isis
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picture of him. while not bad looking, his problem is that he literally did not leave his house and is batshit insane
He also lives in a country extremely racist against >>194936
Sorry, I only deal in ass-pics
>>194863>If I become average/ able to attract some women and my life still isn't better
Yo I know how you feel but pussy honestly isn't that life changing or awesome, granted you might find the right girl to rock your world but I had a very close friend once he found out what sex really was.
Also just get your surgery ffs so you can stop hanging out with losers on the internet that are obviously bringing you down. I really wonder if you can actually see the problems that you have or if you are just completely blind.
nah, he's one of those people who believes therapy is a scam.
he also won't even try to leave turkey, despite the fact that he has to join the military and he just says he's going to kill himself when it comes down to it
Anddd my sympathy is gone.
Are there any guys on /r/incels that have the potential to live a normal life?
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Off topic, but sluthate is amazing.
This is the type of guy I'd honestly date but then I go and find out shit like >>195007
God fucking damnit incels
oh yeah there are a lot the difference is that they aren't posting insane shit like the others.
i_like_my_life, qwerty1423, dougler, neosalius, and dannymason all lead pretty normal lives. granted neos is trans so normal is subjective in regards to them
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You have so much potential. Let go of r/incel. Nothing good can come from being there. There are plenty of communities out there which don't hinge on self-depreciation and delusion. It's never too late to figure your shit out, move on, and improve as a person, anon.
Jesus Christ, that entire discord chat is worth posting here, and yeah, it's gotta be Angryman.
He's sperging out about that post being doxxing at the moment.
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Gonna post these separately because it'll take way too long to merge them into a collage.
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There's a fair few, he went on for quite a while, trying to just post the highlights though.
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Flood detection isn't at all frustrating.
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Gonna skip a couple that are just the same thing I think.
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He went on straight from that to hitting on some girl who posted herself there.
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She pretty obviously wasn't very happy with that idea.
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There's a couple after this that is just him going "Why you no date me SRS question" and shit, so I'm going to skip those.
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Gets better from here on I think.
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He's clearly got the art of seduction downpat, so that's something at least.
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Yep, the other dude's just as bad, I thought he was baiting him, but it seems like he's just as autistic as he is, he was going on about how he wants to fuck some character and then kill himself with her earlier on, not sure if any got caught in these caps though.
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At least he's just admitting he doesn't like women because he wants to get laid I guess.
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Truly the Casanova of our age.
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Second last one, he seems to have left the room now.
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Remember guys, discord slap fights are very serious business.
He posted some more stuff about how India fought for their independence after this, but it wasn't that interesting, so I didn't cap it.
Feel free to ignore the captions.>>195149
Yep, it seems like people over there know we have a thread on them, they're just too autistic to change.
To clarify though, I didn't say anything in this chatroom, just saved stuff.
I wonder what started this little freak out.
They normally turn on each other when they realize one of them had sex
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Gonna post some screencaps from the actual subreddit too while I'm at it.>>195153
I've honestly got no idea, I scrolled up far enough to see them going "KIORA PLEASE HAVE SEX WITH ME", but there didn't seem to be anyone called that in the chat, and I didn't want to wade through that much autism.
I agree completely.
Do they honestly not see how retarded it is to compare themselves to photos of the most good looking people taken at great angles with great lighting and filters and editing afterwards?
Not to mention, that guy very obviously has makeup on in every single one of those photos.
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what do you think he said? keep in mind he's the guy who once thought a girl deserved to be tortured because she didn't look him in the eye
He's taking that way to personally. Some chicks block dudes they're 100% not interested in right away cuz they're cunts. Normal chicks just ignore the message without even opening it. Insecure ones try to decline them nicely, opening themselves up for harassment.
Although sometimes ignoring a message for some reason prompts dudes to send harassing messages your way anyways.
That's very true.
And I don't see these guys as reliable narrators. Even when thy found this thread, they were making up bullshit about what we were saying.
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reminds me of when /u/UserN-me made a post that basically showed he still held on to being bullied in highschool despite being 30
he is seriously holding on to shit from 10+ years ago
Have you considered trying to not be a retarded attention whore, or to at least go do it in the robot threads over on /b/?
You're not getting banned for trying to talk, you're getting banned for being a moron.>>195240
This. It's pretty fucking obvious who you are in the thread, we don't need a trip at the top to tell.
His loss. CBT changed my life for the better. It's to bad he's gonna miss out on that by not giving it a real try.
It's difficult to do, I won't lie. And you feel stupid at first because you're pretty much talking to yourself (in your head of course). But it gets easier and easier every week. After a while you don't even have to think about it.
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Does being the equated to the thing you hate most bother you so?
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But you hate attention whores, since they only like Chads and such.
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okay but he's already had sex so wtf is the point of this
how long are you gonna keep this up, btw?
oh god i missed all the fun again, fucking timezones.
Was there a picture of angryman? I really need to see a picture of angryman.
It is too bad. But CBT requires work and wanting to change.
A lot of these people remind me of people who keep doing the same exact things, hoping for a different scenario to play out, even though the last 102 times had the same exact results. They also expect rejection, and create this sad self-fulfilling prophecy.
A shame because it seems like some of them could be nice people if they got rid of all their self-hate and projected hate on to women.
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i feel like f you're gonna claim to be incel, you can't be racist (not that ethnic girls actually wanna sleep with this dude, i'm sure of it), but when you're purposefully cutting out/rejecting a certain group of people, that makes you "volcel", or voluntarily celibate, meaning you can't complain
>It can always get worse. My life is the epitome of how bad it can get. Imagine being an unattractive Indian guy in the west, it means no women will ever desire you, and is willing to have sex with you, even as an accident. Most of the morons here think I am complaining because I am not chad, but that is not the reason why, I am completely undesirable to the opposite sex, with absolutely no chances of dating, kissing or having sex with them. The important thing here is not whether I am average looking or unattractive, the important thing is no woman will ever go for me. No woman will ever choose me if I ever get a woman she would only be settling for me and resent me. There can be no love, no sexual desire for me from women , they view me as unworthy of them, it is over for me, suicide is my best option. Most of you are fakecels, most of you have had sex, have been on dates, got that first kiss down at the very least, even if you haven't you still have a chance, at least you are White. Be proud of what you have, you are very fortunate, I envy most of you on here, your mental anguish is nothing compared to mine, be glad you are not in my position, I would not wish it even on my most hated enemy.
The latest from Angryman https://www.reddit.com/r/Incels/comments/5btoab/be_glad_you_are_not_in_my_position/
>>195507>Being undesirable to the opposite sex, due to face and ethnicity is one of the worst thing that can happen. Sure there are other things that can be worse, but locally and relatively, considering the issues in the west, this is by far the worst. For me personally, there is no greater tragedy.
how does he live his life being this dramatic holy shit
if he wants to get married and get sex so bad, just get an arranged marriage since those are still common in india. it would literally solve all of his fucking problms
Isn't a shotgun like a couple hundred dollars? Why the fuck would he need a stem job for that?
Just pick up a few shifts at maccas and you'll be good in like a month.
People who post this shit are so disingenuous.>>195523
Hoo boy, our third personal incel guest.
you'll never be 15 and in love
lying on the grass on a warm summer night, watching the stars, carelessly chatting
not worrying about rent, bills, student loans
only worry in life is how you're gonna cheat on that history test on monday
you'll never take a young, tight, hot-bodied girls virginity, pulling out to cum all over her back and have her look in your eyes and say "I love you"
you'll never have a girl around every day after school, pretend to be doing homework together, but instead just ** like rabbits
you're in your 20's now
gotta get a good job
gotta be a serious man now
all the good ones are taken
maybe a nice girl will eventually settle with you
they have already felt all those new exciting feelings before, and are usually jaded and bitter
you missed what it feels like to have not a care in the world other than making your girl happy
you have missed out on teenage love
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the thing that gets me is that this dude thinks it's his looks and STEM degree that are holding him back. sure, buddy, you're a total sweetheart otherwise! women are so shallow :(
Love is about 'settling'
No one is a perfect match. You have to accept other's flaws and they can forgive yours. Compromise; it's not all sunshine.
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Ok, but just one last thing.
"You're such a desperate loser. You could look like a model and still nobody would touch that reeking miserable human you are. Work on yourself, ffs. Find a damn hobby, grow as a person and stop obsessing over pussy. You're not a goblin, it has nothing to do with your looks. How many time do we have to tell you? Looking great sure is an advantage in finding a mate, but so is humor, intelligence, self confidence, reliability… Work with what you have and stop behaving like a whiny bitch. That's 100x more off putting than any deformity you could have."
Your conclusion is flawed if I looked like a model I would get laid regardless of how much of a desperate loser I am. Working on myself will not get me pussy, I have tried self improvement, it has made no real difference. Sex is a fundamental need, so are love and intimacy to a lesser degree, the fact that I cannot have them in life, is truly painful. How can you know it has nothing to do with my looks when you have not seen my face. You are delusional if you don't believe improving my looks will get me laid.
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BUT YOU'VE HAD SEX. clearly you know women don't only want abusive men and chads since one lost her mind enough to sleep with you.
Because they believe that the chick will resent them and won't truly love them.
These are the same dudes demanding the government provide them women to fuck.
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lol so angryman is actually going crazy and believes that he really is some divine being of light.
he's also denying that that post pqwer made was about him. drama amongst them is my favorite
That's a whole lot to ask. Most of them don't seem to have evolved since middle school. Girls are not person with their own lives to them, they are weird beings all thinking the same way. Like we're some sort of hive mind with only shoes and bad guys on our collective mind.
It sometimes feels like they never got to that development landmark where you're able to understand that other people have their own opinions and minds that is different from yours.
It's weird and fascinating.
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These fucks are like tumblr in "x character is a transgirl/genderqueer/pansexual".
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I seriously don't understand why these sad sacks of shit whine so much about wanting a girlfriend while believing this is how feeeeemales actually are.
caamib, aka governmengetsgfs, he has a reddit wide ban and any time he makes a new account he gets banned, he's also banned from /r/incels too because he kept complaining about the mods lol
his ban from reddit was from him claiming he has a daughter and saying that he's going to rape her when she's 12>>195627
literally anyone who has had sex once is considered a chad to some of the dudes there
a lot of them are students, lol
some have jobs
an then some are just 100% neets
There is a freshman highschooler in the discord– and a lot of students. I don't see how you can be 14 years old (an age where I'd guess, 90% of the population hasn't had sex yet) and think you're an incel for life>>195652
So true, it's very much a teen movie/ porn myth– my first times were awkward, nervous, & half the times didn't even work because one of us couldn't perform at all, coupled with the fact we were doing it in secret.
There was no star gazing, no "we're just studying, mom", and no fucking like rabbits. Pretty much anyone whose ever been with a girl knows how pathetic highschool was as far as quality of sex, not to mention romance that always ended in petty drama.
Exactly. Most teenagers are just worried about getting through school in one piece.
Teenage sex sucks. Your hormones are going crazy but that doesn't equal amazing sex. It means awkward groping in weird places or when your parents are gone.
Some of these guys have watched too many movies like Project X or something. I can't imagine being this delusional.
There, soon enough the man himself will arrive, he is totally incapable of ignoring when people are making fun of his meth-and-autism infected brain.
OMG DANNY DEVITO I LOVE YOUR WORK!
I can't believe I missed the arrival of THE amgryman
Even real rapist have enough charisma to lure women. He reeks of desperation literally from miles around. Kek.
Damn, and I thought I was a headcase for kinda disliking myself. These guys are so out of touch with reality it's reassuring.
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Incel representation in media
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Squidward is actually a good example given his horrible personality and unreasonable hatred for other people just being happy.
How could you not underline the most important part:
>My glans had to be amputated
All of my wat, this actually makes me believe he's a troll.
Other than threads here or something small on reddit I can't see it taking off, though it'd be a nice community. >>195661
I'd like something like that but it gets overtaken by butthurt men, I actually had that happen to a forum I really liked and it ended up an incel forum in all but name.
His first bout of legal trouble was a charge for attempted murder, but apparently it didn't stick. After that it was harassment or something, plus I think he was making threats towards some girl.
If I recall correctly he also basically admitted to raping someone but nothing ever came of it.
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How is anyone this stupid and still able to breathe and type at the same time?
so you're either bananbeem or thefaimprovementaccount
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pqwer is writing another one of his totally enlightened and smart posts
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and another incredibly delusional post from angryman411>>195768
dude, you keep saying that you're going to get help and then a day later you're back to posting the exact same thing.
either shit or get off the pot>>195769
yeah, but no one knows if he did it for good or what
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he really is ER junior, right down to the entire "I'VE NEVER ASKED A GIRL OUT" thing.
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i've seen his pictures as well and he's honestly not ugly.
he looks kiiiinda like this? minus the mustache & beard and his face is rounder, his skin is also darker
Get rid of the moustache and he's pretty adorable.
I can't help but laugh about the whole 'nobody wants me cause I'm Indian' like dude, india has a huge population they are doing just fine. You're not alone because you're Indian it's because you're possibly dangerously insane
he like hates indians (he refers to himself as currycel) and says he will not go back to india under any circumstances. also arranged marriage, which is an option used in india en masse w/ a 1.1% divorce rate isn't possible according to him (see >>195523
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Normies are such assholes.
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These are our options.
I wish you luck, Anon. It will only improve yourself to drop the entitled, victimized, woman-hating mindset promoted by incel. It is an aggressive self-fulfilling prophecy.
You wouldn't want to be a replaceable void-filler for a woman, so why would you want a woman to be one for you?
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What about this? It's not from a normie, but it's a bit extreme to keep up on /r/incels. The subreddit might get quarantined like /r/truecels.
Holy shit. What's it like to mod that place? Do you have to delete terrifying comments like that very often?
I hate that I'm responding to this, but listen. I made that post so I want to ask you some things. What type of therapy did you do, and what was your reason for being there? What steps did you take to improve? Did you actually engage with your therapist and put in place what the end result of your therapy would be? Did you try changing therapists at any point as yours may have not been the right fit? Believe me, I know what it's like to hop from one to the other because that specific therapist isn't meeting my needs.
OK, there can be exceptions. I never mentioned the word "all". But look at it this way, we can tell by the way you guys write that honestly, deep in your heart, you're not really trying. You just want things to fall in your lap because you can't stand being miserable, and project that miserableness onto the very people you desire most..women. I'm sorry, but the world doesn't work like that. Why do incels believe the world or the people in it owe them anything? Everyone has to try and continue fighting until the very end. The action of pursuing something and accomplishing it is what makes the experience great anyways. The people who take and take without having to do those very things most often in the end feel just as miserable as you guys do, even though in your eyes they're some sort of gods because they're not openly admitting to it or complaining about it.
Idk but you're not as hopeless as you'd like to make yourselves believe. Give yourself a little credit, dammit. Or don't. In that case it really is a lost cause and my words are just falling on deaf ears.
BrokeCFO 3 years ago. >>195851
I don't post there too often (but did in the past), but I am an active moderator.
I identify as an incel because I'm 2-ish/10. Short, balding and ugly.
Different anon, but I agree.
It is time for a shunning.
I think they are ridiculous. The incels who think of these crazy ideas should just go see a prostitute.
I feel bad for incels saying suicide is the only option, I know how they feel.
Please don't actually continue to reply to him anon, defeats the whole point of ignoring him if you have a discussion with him in which he can continue to whine and act like he knows better than everyone.
Just don't even bother.
That's good to hear. Why did you decide to mod? Did they ask for new mods, or did you just fall into it?
Does the mod team change often? I know there are some users who cycle through alts, but I never noticed with the mods.
I agree, but there are some on r/incels who want rape to be legal or to enslave women. These guys should see a prostitute because they obviously don't care about attraction or emotional attachment.
>The term incel is also stupid because anyone can get laid, through either prostitution or another subhuman woman.
I agree it's not the best term because of prostitutes but some can't even have sex with unattractive women.>>195869
They were looking for new mods and one asked me if I wanted to join. The mod team pretty much only changes if we need new mods but there have been a few times a mod was demodded.
I joined just to keep the quality of the forum up because I'm online very often. Like I said before, the forum gets spammed with insults.>>195875
Yeah, I noticed.
i haven't laughed this fucking hard in a while
stay gold lolcow
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This thread is incredible. The delusion, the refusal to see even a glimpse of reason…God, what a ride.
What sort of stuff gets a mod demodded from there?
Like, it can't be not enforcing the rules, because they only seem to be used for when a non-incel comes in and mildly breaks one, but then you have people like angryman constantly insulting and threatening users, people calling other people liars with no basis, all sorts of shit.
AutisticSubhuman got demodded by BrokeCFO for linking to a pro-suicide site in the sidebar. dsar9013 got demodded by him too for banning people he didn't like but who had not broken any rules.
There were a few more mods who were demodded but I can't remember them.
He didn't quit, BrokeCFO demodded him and he deleted his account after it.>>195909
You'd need some sort of signup system honestly, with a mandatory lurk period.
Keep it anonymous from what clients see, but make it so you can't access unless you have a login (no emails or anything, just a sign in, if you sign in from two on one computer, it wipes your others).
That stops people like the tard in this thread from being able to just ban evade. Even if they make a new account with that system, it'd be a month or so until they could post again.
Wouldn't you risk namefagging with that? If you're not going with an email based system(shitty for privacy), you have to go with a name or number and that would defeat the purpose of anonymity. Tight moderation on a board could achieve the same effect. I don't want muh private club, I just want somewhere we can talk and vent in depth while shutting off the robots.
Anyway, like I said, I'm barely a techie. I'm just really interested by something like this, I think it's missing and could attract people. I'm just feeling out to see if other people would be on-board.
Sorry, missed ths reply, but no, I think you missed the point of what I was saying.
It would be a system where you had to sign in, but there was no indication of your sign in details when you actually used the site. It would be a screen you have to go past in order to access the site, but once you actually post, you just show up as anonymous.
Only people who could see which account posted what stuff would be mods, and I doubt anyone ever thought they were anonymous from the moderation anyway.
The issue with relying on moderation is, like our resident robot in this thread, you get people who will just keep on evading.
A login system with say a month "lurking period", where your account must have been active for a month before you can post would get rid of this risk. You ban the account, they can't post again for another month.
It's possible, but I imagine you could work around that somehow as well.
Obviously there wouldn't be a lurk period for the first few months, otherwise you'd have a dead forum instantly. I do get what you mean though, and maybe a month is too high. A week could be better, I don't think that's too long for anyone. Let them come in, read threads, get the culture and at the end of the week they could post.
It's not a perfect solution, perfect would be a way to ban people that was completely effective, and tough moderation (I'm not really certain what forms of bans are possible for an online forum, bast the obvious IP based ones), but I can't think of much better.
It's not a situation like wizchan where they're just not that interesting, and girls don't have an interest in raiding it, we'd get constant raids from robots if we actually advertised as a forum for women.
Maybe we should move this convo elsewhere? Incels will rage we're not talking about their pathetic entitlement to sex.
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/u/resentful brother is back with a vengeance.https://www.reddit.com/r/Incels/comments/5c31xl/eat_shit_hairy_feminist_legbeards/
resentfulbrother is an infamous poster after he wrote about how he asked his sister to fuck him. His sister is basically his caretaker, and she obviously said no. I will find some juicy caps about him.
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>>196107>>196108>My sister (few years older, but almost the same age) is literally the only female entity in my age group that I've ever had a close relationship with and she's the only one that tolerate my autismness. She's a successful normie and well indoctrinated into their ways thanks to her beautiful appearance, and she's probably the only person I actually love. I'm kind of like her pet project, she's spent years trying to rehabilitate me and teach me to be a normal person, but I think she's starting to realise I'm a lost cause, but she keeps me around cause she loves me. If I ever lose my virginity to a girl it'll probably be to her but its extremely extremely unlikely. Not that I haven't asked or tried to convince her but she's shot the idea so many times. She won't even set me up with any of her hot friends cause she doesn't want to lose her friends and she knows none of them will want to hang out with me. I'm pretty sure they make jokes about me but one time she stuck up for me when Chad was obviously making fun of my stutter, which was pretty cool of her. She's like a super high ranking elite normie so she commands tonnes of respect, especially from beta numales and low ranking normies. Its pretty cool cause it means in relation I also have some command over them, I just have to get her to ask them to do stuff for me, which doesn't happen very often. Like the only times betas ever try to befriend me is to get to my sister and they pretty soon realise its not worth it. She's like the only person I can get along with without completely pissing off for some reason, which is weird cause when you think of all the shit she's had to put up with me over the years, its enough to make anyone else ditch me forever. I guess blood loyalty and all that stuff. Blood is thicker than water.https://www.reddit.com/r/Incels/comments/50ihhb/whats_your_relationship_like_with_your_family_do/
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>>196114>She's basically like my wife anyway. She does all that shit for free for me because she loves me, but she can't find it in herself to just lie on her back on a bed for two minutes? I don't know, I'll never understand women. I mean if sex isn't that big of a deal and its overrated, then why is it so hard to let me have a go?
From the same link.
Poor girl. Imagine loving your autist brother to bits, trying everything to help him and having to reject his awkward attempt at incest.
That's pretty sad.
>>196107>He is entitled to hate women if women won't have sex with him. Is he supposed to be happy and cheerful about it?
lmao god I hope kazovic leaves his computer open one day or his phone open and his girlfriend sees all of misogynistic stuff he posts and breaks up with him.
or his parents (he's muslim) find out he's dating a white chick (because he's keeping it secret from them) and they make him break up with her jfc
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>tfw so many of them actually believe trump was a good choice despite trump being literally everything they hate in dudes
anything to stick it to SJW and women, i guess
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That is definitely a common theme
he's a former incel, still a misogynist and goes on and on about how his gf isn't like other girls because she doesn't act like a princess and when he's ~mad about women~ he just gives her an extra hard thrust or some shit during sex>>196147
they really think feminism is gonna be gone for good. also looks like dannymason has been getting fed up lately, or is that just me?
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I think this one is breaking
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Banannabeamreloaded is alive and allegedly a normie now
lmao what a shock, talking to women helps you get a gf
inb4 they come up with some insane thing as to why it doesn't actually work
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TheFAImprovementAcc you need to stay away from /r/incels! You can't expect to have a meaningful interaction with every cashier you meet. They're probably bored as hell, been working all day, and they just want to go home. You have to talk to you therapist about body dismorphic disorder. People who have never met you don't hate you. They don't even know you.
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okay but isn't he one of the people always saying how his ethnicity is keeping him from getting a girlfriend or a woman to have sex??
like what kind of cognitive dissonance
Hasn't he claimed to be totally going to kill himself like three times now?
And yeah, because some bpd chick in a psych ward "dating" you totally makes you a normie. Guarantee they'll never talk to each other again as soon as one gets released.
What a moron.
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can't get girls? i'll just call them ugly, that'll sure get them to date me!
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Faimprovmentaccount, TELL YOUR THERAPIST THIS. get off of /r/incels and tell your therapist, jfc
I have to think this is more his fantasy than actual reality.
Then again that other guy demanded his mother sleep with him incels are into incest?
Hell, I get on autopilot sometimes when working and I get a phonecall. Sometimes it is just so automatic for me to pick up a call from my bosses (I gave them an annoying ringtone) right away that I sound like a robot when I say hello. It isn't personal. I'm just in the zone. Then I'm go "omg sorry, how are youuuuu????"
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a true tragedy. rip.
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lmao this alternate reality /u/tallblackguy lives in
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>>196204>didn't focus on the important issues, just sexism/racism>the real important issues are the fate of lesser males, incel types
Oh of course, the national issue that every political activist refuses to acknowledge, inceldom! Truly should be addressed on a governmental level.
These people are so brainwashed by their own echo chambers that they think the worlds biggest tragedy is that they can't get laid. A lot of incels even think government should issue laws that give incels sex. Do they genuinely think that it is even slightly possible? In america?
Some people feel such a lack of control over their lives they feel the need to seek out answers in arbitrary things. The same reason people dedicate their lives to dooms-day prepping or attempting to uncover the 'moon landing hoax'. Incels dedicate their lives to the one thing they can't control. They connect dots that don't necessarily exist in reality and collectively come to these absurd conclusions about women:
we're all demons, we're all hiveminded, we're all sex obsessed, we all want to be dominated, we're all the same thing and we're all out to laugh at betas.
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lol we've got a twofer from angryman411
>>196501>womenw ouldn't notice because there are women who date rapists and murderers all the time
Yeah, hybristophiles and the sort of scum that spends all of their welfare check on speed.
Rapists and murderers aren't dating super normal successful people.
And I find it hard to believe that people like this can be so over the top online, and then normal and completely well adjusted in real life.
Ya, I think I'd notice. There are some guys on incels who get thrown into a suicidal depression if they see attractive men.
You don't have to say weird shit for people to know that something is up.
1. You're wrong
2. Correlation is not causation
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I would certainly notice this
It is impossible to tell incels apart from a light troll comment. They are too nuts.
Someone could post a green text right now saying "I cut off my nose because I knew my nostrils were asymmetrical" and I'd believe it was from an incel.
Yeah, I just checked Marjie's page over there. He's becoming active again. It isn't much but he's posted a half-dozen times this week there.
Granted, this isn't his normal rate of autism, but I can see that coming back soon enough.
Jesus Christ that thread.
Just copied from the replies there, but is lookism appropriate for this thread?
Because look at this shithttp://lookism.net/Thread-Rate-UglyNormalFag-s-RATING-SYSTEM
Almost everyone above 6 is full on male model tier, and one of the highest paid models in the world, in shoot with makeup is only considered a nine to them.
No wonder they think that they're ugly with the sort of people they consider a 7, which I'd say would be "a bit above average".
Then you've got people saying Ryan Gosling is a 5 in the thread.
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lmfao looks like angryman is losing support even amongst the other extremists
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Here is a pic of canino1997 the disgusting creep who said it should be legal for incels to rape unconscious and paralyzed woman.
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he has to be a parody of the users in the sub. like he has to lol
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>Twitch streamers have personal lives just to cuck me.
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lmao there goes roboninethousandone trying to cope again
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lol i told you guys that /u/thefaimprovementaccount would never change
He seems to deliberately look up things online that upset him. Why? I feel like most people would be like "it upsets me when I see xyz online, so I won't look it up".
Like, his goal shouldn't be to talk to a girl. He should try to at least stay away from /r/incels and not looking up the "threesome" tags or whatever the fuck triggers
him so bad. Stay away from that shit for the rest of 2016, and I guarantee he will start to change his outlook.
Until you call them out and ask them if they'd date X person, at which point they say no or just go on about how you're trying to manipulate them or are just a dumb normie.
Most of them are incel because they won't actually just fucking interact with people, they live their entire lives in a cuck fantasy where they already assume every woman hates them, and are only good for sex anyway, so never just talk to women, it's always a hookup attempt.
Seriously, when's the last time someone there made a post about how they just tried to talk to some girl?>>196994
He'll almost definitely grow out of it, I'd say the vast majority of teenagers go through a "the whole world's against me, I'm the worst off anyone could be" phase where they act all edgy, his is just a bit later on.
Because you need to be able to actually have a healthy relationship before you can try to get in a relationship.
As I said, they view every interaction with a woman as a chance for a hookup, which is ridiculous. You could be the most beautiful man alive, and most people in the supermarket still aren't going to want to fuck you, let alone cashiers that just want to finish their shift.
They seem to think that someone flirting with you means they want to fuck you, which is silly.
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Or they just straight-up refuse any advice from women. Pic related.
Yeah, they seem to think that all their issues are because of their looks, and that if they weren't so hideous (with >>196645
as a frame of reference for what they think is normal) they'd all of the sudden become super socially successful and capable. They do the same shit as other similar sorts do with the "If I get a gf that will solve all my problems and I'll live life on a constant high".>>197145
Yeah, that thread was ridiculous, there's who seriously agree with the point that women are all out to deceive men and that the only people you can trust are other incel men.>>197147
Yeah, all they're interested in from other people is an assurance that they're not at fault for their failures and are actually just the victims of everyone else in society and society itself.
It's not about having a relationship, it's about their ego.
just the title of that thread is lmao worthy "the worst person to listen to for advice on women, is women, which is why you should keep listening kissless, handholdless, and in some cases, eye-contactless virgins on women"
he's so ridiculous
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You can cover shit in gold flecks but at the end of the day, it's still just a piece of shit. Good luck that though.
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FAImprovementsAcco is drunk and begging /r/incels to let him stay.
He needs to get off the internet. Just block reddit and delete his account.
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lmao the discord chat keeps tearing them apart. who do you think is going to snap first
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the fighting continues
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I can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually agree with Angryman.
That guy is fucking ridiculous, he's a 17 year old who's managed to convince himself he's both better and worse than everyone else in reality, and is a hopeless incel because he's not lost his virginity at the average age that people tend to lose their virginities at.
He should absolutely be reported to someone.
Curious, can mods be held responsible if they don't forward threats like that to the right authorities? I get users can't, but moderators should more so, right?
If not legally, is this somewhere in the rules of Reddit? I couldn't find much about rules for mods.
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Shhhh, just let it happen.
oh i agree, pqwer423 or whatever is absolutely insane. it's just funny that they keep infighting in the discord>>197389
why do you think any of the following
1) it's okay to get off to cp/necro/rape/beastiality?
2) that raping disabled or comatose people shouldn't count as rape?
3) that being a lesbian should be illegal and that anyone who is a lesbian should be forced to have their clitoris removed?
4) refuse to actually get up and get out of turkey, despite the fact that you (allegedly) have enough money to do so?
5) actually think we care about your feelings? especially when you say all of the bat shit insane shit that you say. seriously, no one gives a fuck about your feelings >>197395
they think ER is a saint and that he was doing god's work by trying to kill those girls, and going ER means that they're going to shoot up a place
1) I did never watch or said I watched CP. This is just an accusation. The necro/rape/beast is true. I grew up on the net and jerk off 4-6 times per day every day since I was 10. I got burned out of normal porn. it doesn't enhance my fapping anymore. This is why I fap to weird porn to get the best out of my fap. Believe me, you would get bored as well if you fapped to normal porn 4-6 times a day without having real sex for years. No-Fap doesn't work I tried it for 90 days. It is okay since nobody gets harmed and the media does already exist. The deeds have been done nothing would change if I looked at it or didn't look at it.
2) Well, it would be rape if somebody would have sex with them without their consent but It wouldn't be real rape. It would be a softer version of rape. No force would be used against them because they would be unconscious. If the person doing the rape would do a really good job they would not find it out. Nobody would be harmed and incels could get their salvation from the curse that is inceldom.
3) Lesbians would get to still do lesbian stuff with trans incels that transitioned to female. Sex is a female resource and lesbians are being greedy by not sharing that resource while people here are starving. Being lesbian with biological females should be banned. Not being Lesbian in general.
4) Another assumption. I tried to move out. I can't because I am a high school dropout. Literally, every place told me that I can't leave. That includes embassies/lawyers. I tried it's not possible I came to terms with that. I am just killing time until my time runs out and discussing my thoughts with like-minded people.
5) I know females/normies/chads don't care about lesser people like us. Every single incel knows that. This fact has been made pretty clear to every single one of us. Tbh I don't care about the safety, wellbeing, rights or feelings of normies or females. It is just funny how you people harras/target people that have a different worldview/ideology than you in an effort to shut them up. Most of us know that normies and females enjoy picking on people just to feel better about themselves or for personal enjoyment. These places weren't made for people like you. Yet people like you come here brigade and harras us. We incels don't run around and harras other people/communities that weren't meant or made for us. We know our place. We discuss our thoughts in the place made for that purpose and most of us keep it there. You treating our communities like a zoo and harassing people that are below you just shows what kind of people you all really are.
>>197428>You treating our communities like a zoo and harassing people that are below you just shows what kind of people you all really are.
We aren't harassing anyone.
Do you really think that anyone is going to treat incels with respect when they post the kind of shit that's been capped throughout this thread? Come on, now.
Ah, fair enough. Hopefully mods will just ban him.>>197442
No you don't get it, it's all womens fault, hes' not mentally ill and also therapy is a sham from the jews and doesn't work (the data that says it does is all lying) and if he was Chad he'd be living his whole life on an ecstacy high without the drug.
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RE: the global incel conspiracy
>>197444>I have no insurance your normie worldview, logic, ideas, and advice don't apply to some of us.
There is nothing special about your brain, and therapy has worked for people way more fucked up than you.
Fucking Jeffrey Dahmer benefited from therapy in prison.
You're not special, you're just a bitter retard who's constantly desperately trying to avoid having to take responsibility for being an almost completely irredeemable piece of shit.
If you honestly believed you were as hopeless as you claim, you'd have fucking offed yourself as so many people have asked you to in the past.
Fuck off and stop shitting up this board.
Also, yes I'm mad, you cunts are annoying.
Srsly, it's not even funny how crazy that shit is. How can you brew that kind of insanity in your head and not see it's the problem.
I wonder if male incels offer their asses to gay incels as a commodity.
True, not for threats, but if someone posts a serious threat with a clear intent of following through with it, and no-one reports it, couldn't they be considered to be at least slightly responsible for that?
Or is that covered by the Reddit rules which obviously forbid that sort of shit?
I'm honestly surprised that /r incels is allowed to stay up seeing as how the moderators do fucking nothing to stop people constantly posting threats of violence and other extremist shit.
Seriously, you guys are fucking terrible at actually enforcing your rules, and if they're only intended for non-incels, it should state that.
We actually do remove direct threats and they are against reddit's rules, I think, but no one reports them or anything. I don't think we would be responsible for that.
>I'm honestly surprised that /r incels is allowed to stay up seeing as how the moderators do fucking nothing to stop people constantly posting threats of violence and other extremist shit.
Threats we remove, extreme things we try to have a limit. Like the >>195817
thread is a bit too extreme.
>Seriously, you guys are fucking terrible at actually enforcing your rules, and if they're only intended for non-incels, it should state that.
They aren't just for non-incels, they are just rarely enforced on incels.
>>197475>We actually do remove direct threats and they are against reddit's rules, I think, but no one reports them or anything. I don't think we would be responsible for that.
I'm sure some do, but I mean, plenty of posters talk about "going ER", to the point it's even in your FAQ. Why do you view that as acceptable?
>Threats we remove, extreme things we try to have a limit. Like the >>195817 thread is a bit too extreme.
Yeah, I don't think anyone would disagree that's too extreme, but where's the limit.
>They aren't just for non-incels, they are just rarely enforced on incels.
Why is that? Wouldn't holding people to the same standards and banning tards like Angryman or any of the other prominent posters put in this thread that just spam the board with whining and attacking other users raise the level of discourse? It seems like rule 8 exclusively applies to incels too.
Also, curious, why do you not have an age restriction? Doesn't it seem dumb to you that you have a 17 year old constantly whining on your sub about how he's so hated for being a virgin, despite him being at the average age people lose their virginity?
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>>197476>I'm sure some do, but I mean, plenty of posters talk about "going ER", to the point it's even in your FAQ. Why do you view that as acceptable?
Going ER is said usually in a sentence like "the only thing I can do in life now is suicide or go ER", it's not the best example, but it's usually not in a threatening way. Any post along lines of "I'm going ER" will get removed.
>Yeah, I don't think anyone would disagree that's too extreme, but where's the limit.
Yeah, that's a good point. There's no clear line and how much effort was put in to the post is taken in to consideration. This thread I've screenshotted for example should probably have not been approved but he put effort in it and I didn't want to remove it.
>Why is that? Wouldn't holding people to the same standards and banning tards like Angryman or any of the other prominent posters put in this thread that just spam the board with whining and attacking other users raise the level of discourse? It seems like rule 8 exclusively applies to incels too.
Why that is I can't give a good answer. It's just how it's moderated. And I don't have a problem with angryman, he does spam the board a bit and attacks others often-ish but most his posts don't break any rules.
Rule #8 is hardly enforced in general. I just enforce it if an incel says something about themselves, like they are in-shape, and someone else says "no, you aren't" without any proof. It's enforced maybe once a week.
>Also, curious, why do you not have an age restriction? Doesn't it seem dumb to you that you have a 17 year old constantly whining on your sub about how he's so hated for being a virgin, despite him being at the average age people lose their virginity?
Because it still is a bit bad to be a virgin at 17 involuntarily, not as bad as those 20+ but I don't think we should exclude those under 18 completely.
>>197478>Going ER is said usually in a sentence like "the only thing I can do in life now is suicide or go ER", it's not the best example, but it's usually not in a threatening way. Any post along lines of "I'm going ER" will get removed.
That's fair enough, though don't you think that it's a fine line to draw between saying what you said and going "I'm going to kill myself or go ER"?
>There's no clear line and how much effort was put in to the post is taken in to consideration. This thread I've screenshotted for example should probably have not been approved but he put effort in it and I didn't want to remove it.
That's a good point I suppose, that there is a difference between what's just edgy inflammatory shit designed to be just that, and when someone's posting that sort of shit but has put effort into it and seems to believe it.
Personally I'd say a clearer line would be say whatever you want, but don't endorse illegal activities. Doesn't stop people from being able to vent, but stops them saying stuff like rape should be legal, or whatever, I'm sure you've seen far more of that stuff than I have.
>And I don't have a problem with angryman, he does spam the board a bit and attacks others often-ish but most his posts don't break any rules.
Isn't rule one about not attacking other users constantly? Though I think I mixed him up with the "Normies must pay" guy, who attacks people in seemingly every post he makes.
>Rule #8 is hardly enforced in general. I just enforce it if an incel says something about themselves, like they are in-shape, and someone else says "no, you aren't" without any proof. It's enforced maybe once a week.
That's reasonable, though I think it leads to misinterpretation of the rule. Could maybe bring up amending it to something like "Don't accuse others of lying about themselves unless you have explicit proof".
>Because it still is a bit bad to be a virgin at 17 involuntarily, not as bad as those 20+ but I don't think we should exclude those under 18 completely.
But I mean, by that standard like 40% of the population of 17 year olds are incels, because teenagers tend to be a bit sex obsessed, and would sleep with someone if they got offered.
I'd say even 18 was too low in my opinion, maybe 20 would be more reasonable. At 16-20, it's insanely common for people to be virgins, for all sorts of reasons.
But that's just my opinion.
>>197481>That's fair enough, though don't you think that it's a fine line to draw between saying what you said and going "I'm going to kill myself or go ER"?
Yeah, post like that should be removed. If they aren't a moderator probably hasn't seen it yet.
>Isn't rule one about not attacking other users constantly? Though I think I mixed him up with the "Normies must pay" guy, who attacks people in seemingly every post he makes.
Yeah, those comments of his get removed, but in most comments he makes he's not insulting someone.
>That's reasonable, though I think it leads to misinterpretation of the rule. Could maybe bring up amending it to something like "Don't accuse others of lying about themselves unless you have explicit proof".
I agree, that's a good point.
>But I mean, by that standard like 40% of the population of 17 year olds are incels, because teenagers tend to be a bit sex obsessed, and would sleep with someone if they got offered.
Yeah, I know, I don't consider anyone under 19 to be an incel, but I think those younger should still be allowed to post.
>>197484>Yeah, post like that should be removed. If they aren't a moderator probably hasn't seen it yet.
Fair enough, how active does moderation tend to be anyway? I imagine it would be shitty having to wade through all of that for no real pay or anything like that.
>Yeah, those comments of his get removed, but in most comments he makes he's not insulting someone.
Maybe I'm just seeing them before they're removed, but he seems to insult people every single time he gets into a conversation, or at the very least gets insanely hostile with them as soon as they disagree with him, which is just as bad as actually namecalling.
>I agree, that's a good point.
Glad I could help, I honestly have no idea how you could put up with dealing with the sort of people posted in this thread every day, let alone the amount of shit that gets deleted before we ever see it.
>Yeah, I know, I don't consider anyone under 19 to be an incel, but I think those younger should still be allowed to post.
As do I, but I'd say it wouldn't be hard to put an age specifier in the FAQ about age would it? Because as you said, some teenager who hasn't had sex yet isn't an incel, they're just a normal teenager, there's not even anything unusual about their sex life.
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Exactly, they don't even notice girls who are on their own league. Only the hot chicks matter, because for some reason they "deserve" a beautiful woman.
>>197485>Fair enough, how active does moderation tend to be anyway? I imagine it would be shitty having to wade through all of that for no real pay or anything like that.
It is pretty active every day, every 5-10 minutes there is usually something to moderate. For me since becoming a mod I've done a moderator action 6353 times according to a chrome extension I have.
>Maybe I'm just seeing them before they're removed, but he seems to insult people every single time he gets into a conversation, or at the very least gets insanely hostile with them as soon as they disagree with him, which is just as bad as actually namecalling.
I'll try to pay more attention to his comments and remove them quicker.
>As do I, but I'd say it wouldn't be hard to put an age specifier in the FAQ about age would it? Because as you said, some teenager who hasn't had sex yet isn't an incel, they're just a normal teenager, there's not even anything unusual about their sex life.
It wouldn't, I'll see what the other mods think.
question, are you tired of the community? you come here and agree with us to an extent and even post caps that you're a mod but if it were shown there that you were regularly posting here they would lose their shit and throw a temper tantrum about how you should be demodded before making some fringe sub that flops and then sperging out on you anytime you comment on the sub
i'm putting my money on this being brokenincelman or qwerty1423
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>>197428>I grew up on the net and jerk off 4-6 times per day every day since I was 10.
Lol, so even if you did somehow manage to get laid you'd never even be able to cum since you've abused your cock with a death grip jerk off session for years.
>>197478>Because it still is a bit bad to be a virgin at 17 involuntarily
What the fuck kind of degenerate society have we become where being a virgin at 17 is a bad thing? They're still kids
, kids shouldn't be having sex. The main function of sex is for fucking reproduction, not 'hnnghh muh tingles and my temporary high.' When you're making love it should be to someone special, not just random pussy so you have some temporary validation and feel slightly less pathetic, you goddamn degenerate.
>>197504> I don't think most would get mad at me for posting here
this is the community where users doxed americangirl1996 just for having the audacity to be a girl and be on the mod team.
you're wearing blinders m8
I don't mean bad in the same sense being a virgin at 30 is considered bad, I mean some 17 year old virgins can still feel bad about being a virgin. At 17 I did, not as much as now, but I still felt a bit bad.>>197505
americangirl1996 was a non-incel attractive girl who many incels thought was being too strict with moderation. I'm a short, balding, ugly incel and I've never been accused of being too strict.
okay so i take back it being qwerty
anyway, it's not just that she wasn't being too strict, looksdomatter doxed her because she was a girl and wouldn't meet his demands of stepping down as a mod in the community. literally all of the backlash she got was because she was a girl and a mod.
the users there sperg to the max when they don't get their way or find out news they don't like, and you're no exception
I don't much about avoidant personality disorder but it does seem like something a lot of incels have. For the incels that do have it I would say it contributes a lot to them being incel. >>197515
I'm not going to confirm or deny being any mod, I'm trying to keep who I am secret.
>anyway, it's not just that she wasn't being too strict, looksdomatter doxed her because she was a girl and wouldn't meet his demands of stepping down as a mod in the community. literally all of the backlash she got was because she was a girl and a mod.
There was a lot of talk about americangal being too strict. Even I thought that was the case. And looksdomatter absolutely did think she was too strict, he even made a subreddit to get away from her moderation. Which was /r/truecelsreborn, and he invited me. Other subreddits like /r/realincels and /r/virginsuncensored were also made.
But you are right she faced a lot of backlash for being a girl. Most incels want incels as moderators, and I'm a 2/10 incel.
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>b-b-but they are all whores
>yeah well beef curtains
>only girls are sluts if they have meaningless sex
>having sex for the purpose of creation still makes you a whore
>don't make me feel bad for worshiping cum
>don't make me feel bad for being a degenerate, I NEED to cum, anyone will do, anybody, please anyone, have sex with me, it's the only thing worth living for
What else do you think he's going to try to pull out of his ass to make it seem like he doesn't feel bad for having his perversions shoved in his face?
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Look, I know it hurts. I know having a mirror put up to your face and showing you what you are hurts. Realizing that you're no better than an average slut because you see sex as the meaningless bumping of genitalia wounds you.
Go ahead, call us whores and put up your edgy 'this'll trigger 'em real good heheh' but it's the truth and you know it. You don't like to be shown what you are and you'll keep falling back on 'fuk u slut' but it's true. D-E-G-E-N-E-R-A-T-E
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They only find comfort in this and their trusty Hanes sock.
I'm pretty much a poster child for avpd and I'm terrified that I belong to the same group as menchildren wanting to legalize rape and who consider women pretty much fuckable animals.
I'm incredibly lonely because of my personality disorder and various mental illnesses, but I don't blame guys for not throwing themselves at me (on another note, it's incredibly hard for me to find someone in my type… I'm not at all into "Chads", but effeminate and introverted men).
Saged for blogpost.
Wait, are you an author of post linked in>>194558
or are you another het incel who tried not being straight?
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good morning to everyone, especially the guy who asked /r/incels what vaginas feel like
When my ex-bf was 10 he was in a house fire. He has burns over 60% of his body including the left side of his face. He is missing an ear.
Even if he wasn't burned, he'd still probably be a 4 on the incel lookism scale. He has a big ol' french nose, is extremely underweight and has a below average penis.
He still gets laid regularly because he doesn't sit around feeling sorry for himself. He's still compassionate, honest, and still a genuinely fun person to be around. He has hobbies. He likes animals. He goes outside. He treats women with respect.
Dude is covered in burns and has a small penis, but he's still a billion times sexier than any of the guys on r/incel because he has a good attitude.
But it's fun to see them sperm that hard… All this energy and time they could spend bettering themselves, and they are here, actually trying all they can that they are unlovable.
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>I'm 22, so no teenager. We also hate underage & b& and we report them whenever we see them.
>I guess it is why I like boards so much. I have been on them since I was like 14.
They're so pathetic we can't stop trying helping them even knowing it's a lost cause.
Maybe it's because we have that weird "other people regardless of gender are human being" going on.
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>You mustnt have met a lot of normal people then.
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Are you fucking retarded?
I live near a very popular US city and nobody I know goes to clubs. Like >>197629
said, most people just go out to eat, go to the movies, go to the mall, or chill at home.
I highly doubt you've met many people who enjoy clubbing. I think you need to back away from your shitty collection of teen romance movies and look at how average most people are.
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>Nah ur just bored, like me
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>I wish I could nit pick my beliefs like that.
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I've never met anyone as pathetic as you. I can't wait for the day that you off yourself.
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>The only non degenerate countries in the west are Norway, Finland,Iceland, Austria and Switzerland
They are so starved for attention. Just ignore them. We must shun them.
SHUN! SHUN! SHUN!
does he really think being sexually assulted as a child is the sane as girls noy wanting to hold your hand.
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In the words of one of the patron saints of /fit/,
AvPD doesn't seem to fit them at all. They have social anxiety, sure, but I wouldn't say AvPD was appropriate.
Not every person who's socially withdrawn or avoidant has AvPD.
A lot of their issues do seem to come from BDD though.
It is so bizzare isn't it???
Either they are "jealous" that a victim of sexual abuse had the chance to have sex, or they view being a virgin on the same level of trauma as sexual abuse. Either way, incels are fucked.