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Here's the best highlights from the recent viral Twitter thread, reposted for posterity
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Shortly before making their thread about questions you should never ask, they were begging for questions in general. It's all a big performance of how edgy and different they are.
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Justification of abuse and bad behavior. When you're a "system" you can always blame it on your alter!
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Explanation of "child alters"
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Explanation of fictives/introjects, which is totally different from kinning, you guys
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More on fictives: don't be mean to my faves, who are literally me, but also not.
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>I'm dating myself
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>I can't afford costumes for all the different characters I play, so you owe me money
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>my fictional characters speak a fictional language, but this is all very real
Okay, that's it for the initial milk dump. Discussion questions!
- these people admit in their own words that they have a disorder, so how can they trust their own perception of their illness?
- how can someone date their own alter if they are never conscious at the same time?
- how can a "host" know all about their own "alters" if it's genuinely an unconscious switching? Make it make sense.
This whole thing fascinates me, but there wasn't any real dissent or skepticism to read on Twitter. Would really love to hear more opinions on it.
My friends and I have dealt with someone like this on Discord. They run a Hazbin Hotel server where they're the oldest (28) and everyone else is a minor. They "switch" between Hazbin Hotel characters, Steven Universe, the new She-Ra cartoon on Netflix, some anime I don't know, MLP, etc. They would change their icon and name maybe 11 or 12 times a day. They claim to have OSDD 1b and simultaneously claim to work in the "psychological field", be "trained to read other people's writing", and at one point were claiming that they were going to be adopting one of the 14 year old girls in the server.
The girl wasn't up for adoption and still was in the custody of her legal, birth parents. This was pretty concerning because this admin would often have these younger users calling her mama, papa, sister, etc. And, her roleplaying as underage lesbians while this 14 year old was also professing to being into girls was just the reddest of red flags.
These were after she was called out on her behavior and began sperging out on everybody, broke the server links so nobody else could join and cap anything, changed her name to (SELFCAREMODE.exe)Gestalt for the next week or so complete with a Lapis Lazuli icon where she's wearing a beanie and smoking weed or something. It was your typical woe is me behavior and pity fishing. >>1137398
Again, I have no idea. They were incredibly secretive about their offline doings other than allegedly adopting this teenager (which we assumed they were just going to roleplay this in the server until it eventually turned into kidnapping) and their oh so prestigious "career".
But, honestly? I wouldn't put it past them to be. They act like it. They were incredibly sneaky and slimey with all of this.
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Searching for #pluraltalk or #pluralgang on various social media is a good way to find more milk, if anyone wants to do some farming.
Oh boy a thread got made for this. I was wondering why there wasn’t one.
“Systems” have been my personal lolcows for a while now. And to answer your questions about how alters date, according to them, they have a “mindscape” where they interact. It’s like a physical location that exists only in their mind. I’ve also seen people with DID claim one alter is bullying another, sexually assaulting another or even killing another (the downsides of having a Jeffery dahmer factive apparently.)
And before anyone asks, no, absolutely none of this expanded DID lore is backed up with any science whatsoever. The terms fictive/factive/mindscape/endo systems are all tumblr-isms. (To my knowledge anyway.)
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60+ personalities is what they claimed to have.
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KiA was one of the many names she would change to and it obviously stands for Kit and Adora.
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If it was real and caused by super specshul horrendous trauma as they claim, then it would be observable in African child soldiers, no? Kids who grew up starving in war zones? Schizophrenia, bipolar and even shit like BPD can be consistently found cross-culturally, DID should be too. Why would only western teens with green hair get to have multiple personalities?
Also, this tweet just makes no sense. I thought the whole point was you dissociate and don’t share memories? Even if DID was real, why would it be offensive to refer to you as the same person? You ARE the same person, why are demanding others indulge a mental disorder?
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It wasn't every single screenie. Its the few that were taken before it sperged and broke the server link. The posts are saged.
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I always love how these alters all like using social media in the exact same way and share the same knowledge of platforms and willingness to appear in servers and videos. It really is roleplay/otherkin with an extra step.
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Here's a person who doesn't just have alters, she contains 15 whole "systems". All of these systems have fancy names and contain a bunch of alters.
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But wait, there's more! One of her alters has her own DID system. Her mental illness has mental illness. It's like a DID matryoshka
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Also I'm seeing a lot of Corpse Husband "alters" recently. Imagine having a fandom so unhinged your fans literally believe they are you.
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me running from the Jeffrey Dahmer and Ted Bundy factives in my mindscape
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>>1137505>I'm a factive of a (later admitted to be fake) Onceler fictive that our Onceler kinnie former host dated several years ago
A few years ago I strongly identified with a fictional character. During that time I met someone who through DID believed they were
said fictional character. We dated for a while but don't anymore. However, I now identify as this specific person's alter. I don't just identify as the fictional character we bonded over; I specifically believe that I am my ex roleplaying as this character.
These people deserve each other holy shit
Yes, listening to Corpse Husband turns them into
Why do I feel like these are seasonal
Like she’s at the beach>beach time baby! I will proceed to pick the personalities I made up to be at the beach!
Autumn>I have lots of personalities to pick for each moment of this season too!
Rainy days>which personality should I pick for this exact day?!
It must be so mentally exhausting to keep up with so much bullshit.
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Thanks to this post I now know r/DIDcringe is a thing. There is so much incredible shit in there. Apparently it's popular to make tiktok videos, Instagram stories, etc "introducing" all your alters, complete with full makeup, costume, voice, and mannerism changes.
There's also a ton of gatekeeping within the community over who really has DID or not – probably because they are aware that a lot of it looks really stupid, so everyone is trying to prove that they're the "real" one among fakers.
What cracks me up is when people show up in comments in DIDcringe like “ok it’s super fake lol! But headspace technically exist and you can date there. We technically have 2 people dating in our system -Sable” or whatever trendy bullshit name they invented.
I’m wondering if the illness faker subs is not plagued by the same disease of equally retarded fakers looking down on others.
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Yeah, from what I can tell, DIDcringe is mostly composed of people who think that the disorder/community is real, but just the specific subjects they're making fun of are faking. It's wild.
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DID is real anons, I know of a female patient at rehab who has it, (in SEA, not in white sjw central). Of course she had lived an actual horrible life, having been abused and taken advantage of by family all her life. The best way I can describe it is that she felt like a literal programmed NPC, like she was less than a whole person instead of a bunch of quirky characters in one body. I couldn't tell which one was the real "her", if there even was one.Her "alters" were not obvious, you can't tell when she switched, and she wasn't on the internet to have been poisoned by speshuls on social media. Having DID is such a sad situation, you definitely won't be able to set up a carrd organizing all your "systems" lol
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I believe that DID as you described it is real, but the actual disorder bears no resemblance to what these snowflakes are roleplaying online. I wish there was a way of differentiating that this thread isn't about the real disorder. But it's hard to find the right words when the whole online community is obsessed with proving that they really have it.
Pic related>if you're afraid you don't really have this disorder, just convince yourself you do
I truly believe that they should come up with a totally new name for whatever “real” DID is. In its current form, dee eye dee is a label that mostly exists to be misused by laypeople and ignored by professionals. It’s forever weighed down by the insane LARPers, proven frauds and the debunked “multiple personality theory” surrounding it.
I would like to know just why did being mentally ill become something cool
. I mean, shouldn’t these people, or the ones that are “not faking it”
be considered disabled and unable to even go out to get groceries on their own?
I guess liking the idea of being coddled forever makes sense when you’re a stupid ass teenager, but would anyone really want to be completely dependent on someone for the rest of their lives?i know this is a sperg but I’m really baffled
I mean I remember schizophrenia being "cool" in my dA days. It was treated similar to how these twats treat DID. Like a demon voice they would draw OCs of. And didn't every e-girl have "BPD" a few years back?
It's just now you can't call people out on their bullshit without beginning boolie uwu
This, what absolutely retarded logic.
tinfoil sperg blogpost whatever:
Disassociation, amnesia, infantile responses/regression, referring to oneself in third-person when discussing trauma, and so forth, are all real elements of ptsd. Many of the aspects of DID are logical at the core, but taken way out of proportion and turned into a fun privilege trend justified by trauma, despite the fact that the majority of people have experienced something traumatic. people really forget nearly everybody is traumatised in one way or another and that healing from this is part of growing up lol. eliminating symptoms of ptsd did whatever is the means to realise this. trauma is not an excuse for anything and DID is just narcissism. "uwuw look at me im twuauamatised,,,nd therefore i am dating doctor who but its real because muh tw
/trauma and youre being v hurtful rn ://". as long as they keep their nonsense in twitter and discord.
I think a good goal for the thread would be to find out when/where these terms were first coined. ready to tinfoil tbh>>1137404
anon pls hahahh
also isn't DID basically schizophrenia and amnesia?
I'm confused. It's literally the same anne hathaway looking bitch in different clothes. She even dances in the exact same retarded way.
How are we supposed to believe this shit?>>1137513>Yes, listening to Corpse Husband turns them into Corpse Husband.
I assume so that they can masturbate as Corpse lmfao. It's like an irl version of Naruto's sexy jutsu
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SystemsCringe was the worse version of DIDcringe, but I think the new mods that came from DIDcringe purged some of the old content to try and be better than the original sub owner.
TL;DR the original sub owner Cloz, who said he was a late twenties adult male, had to out themselves as a fake after being bullied or something in one of their servers - they're really just a psychopath wannabe teenage girl with npd or something. She'd use multiple accounts and pretend to be completely different people, complete with stolen selfies, on discord to commit widespread harassment of the people in her servers and in DID and other servers. She got a twitter dedicated to documenting her cringe and lies. Pic related.
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A few years back I accidentaly ran into the Cooler North system on tumblr (https://cooler-north.com
) and was terrified ever since, especially since he takes the worst dick pics I've ever seen (they may have been mercifully deleted by now).
It always irks me how the 14 y/o alter is the sexual one.
Anyway this person has been running multiple blogs for or their special OCs for a multiple years. There really must be something wrong with them, but not what they would like us to think it is…
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The disturbing part of all of this is how perfectly they are set up to deny all responsibility of their own actions. Anything from snapping at someone to being an actual pedophile can be excused away as "alters", according to them.
Even if some of them are actually experiencing this in their head (which is doubtful) that doesn't mean that they are actually different people in reality. It's still one person suffering a psychotic break. The voices aren't distinct people, they're fragments of the same person. These "systems" get up in arms that us "singlets" aren't playing along with the delusion, but there is no logical reason that the world needs to validate their "disorder".
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Humans are a product of their experiences. We react to different situations based on what we've learned and experienced over our lives.
These "systems" are basically co-opting experiences that they haven't had. Like if you're a teenage girl, you can't literally have the experiences that makes a twenty-something male who he is. At best, you're roleplaying the teenage girl's perspective on what it would be like to be an older male.
Some of them claim to have alters of different races, which is crazy racist. Your white ass will NEVER know what it's really like to be a POC because you're walking around in a white body, being treated as white. There is no "alter" that can truly replicate what it's like without experiencing it firsthand. It's not like you caught an actual POC, Pokémon style, to keep in your brain. You're a white person pretending, or a white person with a racist delusion.
Same goes for having any alters that are older than your actual body age. You've only had so many years of maturity, and your "older alters" are at best a performance of what your young mind thinks it would be like to be older.
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Two minutes in Tumblrs DID tag gave me this two for one. As if having DID isn't special enough so they need to add gender onto it.
these people are going to make me abelist. They shouldn't date unless they want to converge or what ever special word they use to no longer have other "alters".
also OT but all the people I knew in High school that used to claim to have DID were heavily autistic weebs that used their "illness" to basically write fanfiction in their heads, they grew out of it realizing it was their untreated/undiagnosed autism that made them think that way. >>1137736
I feel bad for the people with actual DID/any mental illness since so many people online want to claim them for cool points when in reality actually having DID/autism/ADHD/BDP/Bi-polar/PTSD/OCD is a living hell to where you literally can't regulate anything in your body and brain and all of these kids think it's a fun little badge to add to their bio, while they spread around anti-therapy rhetoric.
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Sure. My DIDfag romantic conquests include a girl who was literally locked up in a mental institution for her disordered personality and suicide ideation. Our love affair was hindered by the hospital staff collecting her phone every evening, plus the chemical castration of her industrial strength SSRIs. She was also clinically obese, but that's just further proof that I made terrible decisions in my youth.
>20+ alters, most of which are inspired by anime characters>youngest is a toddler inspired by Hugo from the game OFF (pic rel)>apparently it cries incessantly in the headspace>there's a chance she was actually having an auditory hallucination, but we'll never know>host is bilingual but this one only speaks French>i am a good gf so i will entertain the pretend video game baby!>going well so far, even though my French is rusty>can't remember the word for "bite," literally just say "bite" like in English>"anon… do you mean mâcher?">yes. yes i do.>bite is slang for penis>if DID is real i said penis to a baby
So "alters" often have a specific "role" they're fulfilling in the context of the "trauma" that caused the DID. A "protector" alter is one that "fronts" in situations that would make the other alters uncomfortable. The way I understand it and based on the alter's description, a sexual protector would "front" whenever they're in a sexual situation because she's flirty and sexy teehee so she can protect all the other alters from unwanted sexual attention.Sorry for all the air quotes it's really hard to talk about this shit without sounding retarded>>1138151
TBH she's rather cute aside from being obsessed with being mentally ill (she also has a lot of tiktoks about therapist-shopping to get an autism diagnosis). She's only 17 so maybe she'll grow out of it.
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Forgot to post that one of these "subsystems" is basically just a cluster of Harrison Potter characters.
That or they have maybe one or two 'normal' names (the screenies I posted above, whenever the person switches to 'Jack' their icon changes to Alastor from Hazbin Hotel) while the rest are canon fictional character names from other people's series as seen above with the She-Ra, Steven Universe, etc.
And people just play along with it. I don't understand why. Its fucking embarrassing.
Doublepost and completely forgot to add but I went back looking through the chatlogs. They claimed to have been diagnosed with the osdd 1b at age 4 due to a mental fracture and being abandoned. They also claim that their doctor 'diagnosed' them as clinically insane. Pretty sure no professional uses that as an OfFiShUl diagnosis for someone experiencing mental health issues.
Apparently, you get an osdd diagnosis because you don't really fit the DID criteria.
i don't get it, has fanfiction fallen out of fashion in zoomer circles? has all the weird puritan "anti" rhethoric made them stray away from writing fics (bc it's ""problematic
" or w/e) so they resort to this? i swear, the way they present it is literally just fanfiction and larping fanfiction in reality.
it's a lot healthier to just write out long, cringy fics and make a thousand OCs than to do this. seriously.
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They're right about one thing: this is embarrassing.
Online-DID has given the way to next level parasocial relationships where the kids believe that their favorite YouTuber lives inside their head with them. They can both be and date their idol inside their own head, and insist to everybody else that it's real. I'm sure nothing could go wrong with that.
IIRC this guy used to have an entire thread to himself, or was at least in the OP image of a previous DID thread.>>1138447
So one alter is another alter’s mother but the mother is 25 while the daughter is 16. I don’t know why I’d expect logic from anyone posted in this thread.
If these teens would daydream, write in a journal or even write fanfic, it would be normal. They only need to say they know it isn't real. I was very into various fandoms growing up and a wonderful part of it was sharing your thoughts and feelings. Lots of people roleplayed and were super into it. But it being a shared experience elevated it.
But if you claim you are these these people, you cut yourself off. It isn't a shared interest anymore. They just talk about themselves and decieded what can be said. I don't see anyone wanting to interact with these people for long.
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This one boggles the mind. Another Corpse Husband alter, but this one identifies as a "fictive", meaning an alter based on a fictional character. But CH is an actual person? They don't seem to identify as "Corpse Husband the internet persona" which would make more sense, but "Corpse Husband the actual person", as implied in this comment they posted:
>We would never sexualize the real corpse! We know he hates it and we actively speak against sexualizing the real corpse. Corpse came out as a hypersexual alter bc we hyperfixiated on his horror content during a time of sexual abuse around a year ago (before he was over sexualized). His role as a sexual protector has nothing to do with his voice or current status, he just happened to be placed with that role. I hope this clears it up.
I don't even know what that means now. I thought if you "grow" an alter this way then it's a factive. But it seems like this factive identifies as a fictive, so it's a self-aware alter that knows it's not real? What?
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Oh. It's actually been explained, as much as you can explain this lunacy:
>we dislike the term factive. It implies that they are a copy of the real person. These introjects based on real ppl are only what we perceive these ppl to be with random stuff out brain decides to add. These introjects will never be these real ppl. They are just modified versions of an already fictional persona you tubers take on for the sake of entertainment. TLDR; these introjects are just modified versions of entertaining personas you tubers put on. Factive implies that they are exactly like the real person even tho they aren’t and never will be. So they use fictive or just introject.
How do you have a living person as an alter? How do they explain this possibly working when DID is supposed to be based in your
personal traumas? Do they watch that content creator and simply pretend their alter is living a double life, with one of those lives inside of their body? This is legitimately hilarious, these people may not have DID but they certainly are deranged.
Here's an explanation of factives/introjects in a thread by someone who's concerned about their friend "developing" a factive of the OP, and of course some of the comments tell them it's just something that happens and nothing to be weirded out by, even though this alter is attracted to OP's partner. Which raises a million questions about boundaries and shit, holy fuck.
>As others have said, it's an imprint not a carbon copy. This means they really, really trust you and their subconscious decided you were the safest person to have to the point they kinda needed their own you. That doesn't make them you directly.
Also, relevant to the Corpse Husband thing, something about when someone with a fictive alter meets someone else with the same fictive:>When our fictives meet doubles it is important to approach as sorta "kindred spirits" (that's our system name lol) and understand while you were both created on the same idea, that doesn't mean you're the same person. Introjects of the same person/character can vary WILDLY from eachother. And it's important to understand they can't control the fact that they exist.https://www.reddit.com/r/DID/comments/eng3qz/another_system_has_me_as_a_factive/
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Speaking of Daves, this one is larping a hurt/comfort fanfiction with their girlfriend, switching back and forth between the "abusive
" alter that intimidates the gf and then back to the concerned boyfriend. To add another layer, the abusive
alter only abuses the girlfriend so he can torture the host, who's his real intended victim
. So it even has an aspect of how he's not abusing her, he's abusing himself
so, uh, checkmate, or something.
Can't make this shit up.
to get a diagnosis is very hard, and often unsafe
what????? how is it unsafe lmao? these people should at least try to be more convincing imo.
They probably mean that it's not safe to "come out" as a system to their family or some shit, because they'll get told they're faking and get triggered
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Sorry for double post/unsaged, I hit reply too early. Have another ridiculous screen shot. This whole "disorder" is about being random and quirky and pretending that makes your life hard.
I can't believe I'm alive to witness kinnies 2: electric boogaloo.
(Slightly OT but would it be worth having a kinnie thread? They sperg so much when people do things they don't like to their "comfort characters" and are hilarious but it feels so similar to this shit so I don't know if it'd even be worth differentiating the two since they're pretty much the same thing)
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I have this personal lolcow who:
>Is ftm genderqueerio on low t dose, calls it male slime
>Has a system, one of them is a furry edgy goat, the other one is a teenager edgy boy into knives and slashers, draws fanarts of both and wants to make a comic out of them
>Says she has BPD PTSD Chronic pain and DID
>obsessed with taking ativan and being mentally ill
>literally posts everything on her main blog
But I've posted her before and she felt so assblasted that had to use her semi-popular tumblr blogger friend to defend her. I really have no beef with her. She has accused me of being a terf before -something I'm not- but she's just funny to troll and like I said, my personal snowflake that I love peeking through her fucked up life. Idk it's doctorguilty on tumblr
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I know there are plenty of people among both farmers and professionals who don't believe DID exists at all but I found this checklist on how to spot a definite fake "system" really interesting. The full paper should be available at this doi and I'd recommend checking it out: http://dx.doi.org/10.1300/J229v02n04_04
My favorite DID cow is DissociaDID because she pretty much checks all available boxes on this list. She has talked about events in her distant and recent past in very clear chronological order, accidentally slips into referring to herself as "I" constantly even when explicitly referring to a different alter, shows many negative emotions in videos, has shared details of her trauma - she's made videos on how she doesn't want to talk about her trauma because she's already spent years doing self help TED talk type speeches at local libraries and the like, where she even says she volunteered details of her trauma - and of course she's in the DID community.
From what I've read fictive or nonhuman alters are thought to be theoretically possible in that the child brain not only lacks a clear understanding of what the difference between fact and fiction is but also tends to latch on to anything and everything it remotely enjoys to escape severe trauma, leading to things like a child, for example, gaining alters that are based on characters from shows they like or books that made them feel safe because that makes them in turn feel safe and protected. This is, of course, completely different from the way online ~systems think fictives etc. work, which is "any character from something I like at any point in time suddenly becomes my alter". To circle back around to DissociaDID, she (in)famously acquired a fictive alter of a guy from Sense8 and spoke in a ~Spanish accent and craved Taco Bell or whatever when he ~fronted.
Sage so this hopefully doesn't come off as medfagging, just wanted to share some views actual professionals who work in this field share. Like I've said before there's plenty of people who know much make than me who don't think DID exists at all and that's cool.
And reposting because I forgot to sage like a complete clown.
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Saged for ot but his fangirls are gonna lose it when he can't hide anymore and it turns out he's a doughy average white boy and not a sexy ripped daddy dom
Personally I’m enjoying this version of lolcow where we post research papers as milk kek
Anyway anons before you blame this all on narc zoomers, remember that DID faking has a long and proud tradition. Sybil (the book about a woman with DID) is what brought the disorder into public consciousness and mainstream acceptance. Decades later she confessed she made it all up.
i appreciate your effort in trying to be legit and providing a somewhat reliable source, anon, but i think a go-to way to identify a fake "system" is when it's composed of things like a fkn Corpse Husband alter or Bakugo from MHA
jk jk thanks for the source tho, it looks pretty useful
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Somewhat related to systems/kinning etc, just wtf
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DID "systems" are constantly infighting over being "traumagenic" (disorder caused by trauma) vs "endogenic" (disorder caused from within). Traumagenics are generally taken more seriously because it doesn't make sense to claim that you got this disorder without trauma. This has morphed into "your trauma is a privilege" because convincing people that their disorder is real is the true goal of all this role play.
According to >>1141226
it's also a sign of faking to make a big deal of your trauma. The reason for this is that true DID is the psyche's way of protecting itself from memories of trauma that are so severe, a person cannot handle the knowledge of their own experiences – so they rationalize that it actually happened to another person within them. That's why volunteering specifics, sharing it with people other than the closest confidants, and generally announcing their trauma to the world is also a sign that someone does not have DID. Because if they were genuinely reacting to that trauma, the DID would shield them from reliving it and sharing it.
>10. Having been a member of a community self help group
Basically includes EVERYONE larping DID online. They are creating their own lore to convince each other that it's all happening, but the very act of participating in that proves that they aren't really suffering from DID. The louder someone insists, the more obvious it isn't real.
The entire online community surrounding DID is fake, but that doesn't stop everyone from scrambling over each other to prove that they're "more real" than the rest. And having the "trauma" to "prove it" has become a privilege in a community where everyone gets their validation from attention.
On the topic of dissasociadid, there’s something i just dont quite get, I haven’t followed the whole thing closely so dunno if this has been discussed before.
She claims in her videos that DID happens when a kid suffers extreme trauma and has no parental figure to turn to. I can get behind that (like kids kidnapped and kept in terrible conditions), or even Kim Noble looks somewhat convincing and alludes to child rape. Same with that other woman who was on 60 minutes and was raped by her dad and even had to have vaginal and rectal surgery. Those are horrifying examples of abuse that happened to kids by their own parents.
But Chloe seemed to live with her parents for a while and i thought she had an ok relationship with them. Are they aware of what she’s spouting? Is she basically saying she suffered an intense trauma before the age of 5 and her parents were nowhere to be found?
Has she ever alluded to what kind of trauma she suffered besides trying to kill herself when she was a teen (which has been debunked)?
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I'm an absolute retard and somehow managed to get my two favorite DID cow mixed up. I was actually talking about The Entropy System, not DissociaDID aka Chloe. Chloe seems to actually have serious mental issues or at least is much better at faking it, whether her ~alters are real or not so she's a bit closer to a horrorcow for me. Let's just pretend that I dissociated too hard to remember who was who while writing that post kek>>1142296
I mean I'm not trying to defend her but parents aren't the only possible source of trauma. Preschool or very early grade school offers plenty of possibilities for child predators or physically and/or sexually abusive
people in general to get a hold of a child.
This is older milk so I'm saging but according to this reddit screenshot I found (so take that with as many grains of salt as you like) DissociaDID got caught scraping purported trauma victims
' stories and personal history from trauma victim
groups on Facebook by asking for detailed descriptions of their trauma.
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Samefag: clicking through from that image brought me to this twitter account, which gives me anti-O vibes but is nevertheless pretty milky. It supposedly fact checks DissociaDID videos but mostly posts assorted milk: http://twitter.com/dissociatruth
Chloe also dated and defended Team Piñata for a while, another system, who had gotten outed for drawing weird sneeze fetish art of underage characters. I think calling making art of Tails from Sonic "producing CP" is a bit overblown but it definitely is gross and sketchy and I understand why a community built around supposed trauma stemming from child sexual abuse would want to immediately oust Team Piñata. The full details can be found in their thread on the other farms or in this reddit post. This too is old milk but seemed worth sharing since this is the first official thread and all. https://www.reddit.com/r/DissociaDID/comments/g1f1sx/a_summary_of_the_teampinata_allegations_repost/
Totally agree on the source of trauma for sure, but I thought i heard Chloe or whoever else say that DID develops when the child has no parental figure to help them out during repeated trauma. It did seem to make sense when the victim
was a young kid abused by their own parent with no one to turn to.
I absolutely believe that 99% of them are bullshitters. They seem to have pretty much a normal family life and I know it’d be horrifying if they really did get severely abused in the past, but I honestly can’t believe it.
Even Kim Noble and Jeni Haynes either straight up explain or allude to repeated childhood rape. Chloe had a “split” because Trisha was mean to her once.
I really don’t care much for illness fakers or munchies, but DID fakers really take the cake for me. It just annoys me so much that they can suddenly decide the end of their faking when life catches up with them and be like “woop we all fused in the end guys! Thanks for the support over the years, show’s over ahah also never question my mental illness it’s rude ok”
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Sage for more medfagging.
A child doesn't necessarily have to lack stable parental figures to theoretically develop DID, they just have to think they do. The fictional example in this excerpt -spoilered because it describes childhood sexual abuse- from Haddock's Dissociative Identity Sourcebook is a good example of a situation in which the home life of a child could be great but still be perceived in the moment of the trauma as unstable enough that intense dissociation might seem like the only way out. If abuse occurs at an institution like a school, for example, the trauma can be intense even if the homelife is stable because unless the child immediately tells their parents and is believed and action is taken, the child will have to go back to the place where the trauma occurred over and over again.
Hope this helped explain why trauma that occurs outside the home can also be so intense a child might walk away with permanent dissociative tendencies.
i find it lowkey weird howmany of these kinnies and DIDfags are into harry potter, given what a huge overlap there is between the trans community and these otherkin types. i thought jk was a big fat TERF
to them, why would they be so into HP then?
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How surprising is that DID spergs are also trannies and kinnies?
She must have been around 16-18? I remember her being relatively open about the DID diagnosis, like posting alters' handwriting 'samples' from her diary and discussing her childhood trauma. She also seemed to really trust and depend on her psych.
At some point she stopped posting about her DID, then took a hiatus. When she came back she made a post saying that her narcolepsy was misdiagnosed as DID. Apparently the DID medications had also disrupted her hypocretin production, making the symptoms worse. She didn't really say it explicitly, but she seemed to imply that her psych had told her the PTSD and narcolepsy symptoms were proof of her switching alters. Like the sleep episodes were somebody else "fronting". After that she pretty much stopping posting.
If I can find her blog I'll definitely try to fill in the gaps.
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From my 30 year old boomer perspective, it seems some people took their deviant art original characters way too seriously.
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>This retard has a son that he is raising with the help of his "alters"
>has a series of tiktoks where all the alters try new foods for the first time/ films their reaction
>claimed to have been diagnosed LAST YEAR and can already switch alters with ease
>all the alters are sexist stereotypes. One of the female alters does chores, while a Male one goes to work
>recently made a tiktok going through a Starbucks as a female alter, a worker allegedly recognized the female alter and wrote a note just for her… when I paused the video of the drink being passed , the note was blank
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Samefag but the note does not exist in the frame where it was passed to them, and then it magically appears.
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You can literally see the "to" in the frame you posted.
I was at a party awhile ago and this chick there started speaking with a full on British accent mid sentence and phased in and out of it all night bc she has a British alter that only comes out when drunk or some bullshit
Makes me wonder if a white person started using AAVE and/or saying the N word whether they could successfully play the ‘Uwu I have a black alter’ card and get away with it. I dearly hope not but fuck, who knows these days
No. This is nonsensical. Of course she gains something from it- attention. All of this is some desperate ploy for attention.
She thinks this crazy shit didn’t affect her kid? Of course it did. No clue why social services was on her earlier, but goddamn they should have just taken that poor kid away.
This is so bizarre- all these alters can come right on out on command in front of a camera? MMMM. Suspect.
They should have taken the daughter away on the basis of “salome” being an emotionally abusive
personality. The video was a good laugh though. Especially “bonny” crying while the daughter was stone faced. >>1211321
Kek yeah this shit never makes sense. She can control when her personalities come out? Aren’t they supposed to need an outside trigger
that corresponds with their purpose of creation? DID is clearly attention seeking behavior, maybe she couldn’t cope with shit in life, but the personalities obviously aren’t real. Forcing them onto others is narc shit. I feel bad for her daughter.
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I'm really glad this thread was made. I came across this one account on Tiktok. I wasnt sure what to make of it. She supposedly got a job at Starbucks recently but how does that even work….?https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMexjjbLy/
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Does anyone remember this Australian cow from the early anachan threads? (I'd say circa 2013-2016).
She posts about having DID now and posts as her various alters, one being a transman.
How in the fuck is something this blatantly false getting defended by this many idiots?
Like, I can believe DID's an actual disorder, but the fucking idiots who are the most vocal, and open about their 'experiences' with it are so fucking obviously faked, and just spewing shit.
Like, none of these people are actually traumatized, none of these people are actually experiencing this 'switching', or have 'littles' or 'demons' or 'nonhumans' all running around in their head they can talk to whenever they please, and switch to on command (which of course always requires a clothing change and/or account switch).
Like, this isn't even close to what DID is defined as. This isn't how this shit works, and over 90% of the time these people 'never came out about it because they were worried about being bullied', or 'totally had some trauma happen to me that caused me to split even though I'm an adult and only kids can have it happen', and then of course immediately afterwards these people starts developing dozens of new alters as they get popular because of how many people feel sorry for them/relate/what-the-fuck-ever.
Like, what in the fuck. None of this shit is eve in the vicinity of what actual DID is defined as, and yet I see people who were calling out shifters and shit on how unhealthy, and clearly fake the behavior was, openly, and actively defending this ludicrous shit even though this shit grew in popularity at the same time as shifting did, and very, very fucking blatantly or the exact same reasons
Good god, this is why cancel culture was so important
It kept unhealthy shit like this from becoming as mainstream and 'UwU i'm so special and fun' sounding as it has.
I'm amazed at how defended it is too considering the amount of backlash for, like, real DID, not this fake 'look how popular I am' shit, is going to be once people start getting called out on their shit/admitting to faking it for the clout but now they're bored of it like has happened with every other fucking idiotic 'look at how special I am' fad
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Oh my fucking god
What is wrong with people?!
No you do not have 100+ alters at age 15, in a fairly stable homelife, black or not, no you are not every member of HLVRAI, no you are not Himiko Toga, no you are not Bendy, no you are not fucking Angel Dust, no you do not have 5+ children even younger than you in your head.
And people are defending this person, agreeing with their points, and using them as arguments about how 'muh trauma totally real' and all sorts of shit when until like, a few weeks ago or whatever, this person had never even once spoken of DID, no mentions of fictives until they started spouting shit about how 'fictives are people, so don't sexualize them', and 'endos dni!', '#totally not tulpas', etc, etc.
Now I don't know if this idiot had their 100+ alter page earlier than that (though I really fucking doubt they've had that up for long), but if they did then they sure were quiet about 'defending their disorder' until this shit started becoming 'mainstream popular 'I have a disorder that makes me special and cool!' fad #473: Look at all the people in my head I'm totally not roleplaying as! edition
Minor correction, this idiot was talking about their 'alters' for at least a few months back, they just don't tag shit right despite 'trying to support my disorder'
Still not very long for their nearly 3 year old blog, but longer than a few weeks, and explains why the other idiots are so quick to agree on this '100+ alters' idiocy
You realize this is an alter list right?
They ain't admitting to roleplaying as both their OC's and the dozens (they only post first names of characters on this' of popular game/show characters on it, like the entire cast of HLVRAI (plus a number of offshoot alternate versions of said characters) they're 'admitting' to having these 100+ characters in their head as alters that front for them and shit
Hell, they literally use one of the hazbin ones as an example of how 'fictive's don't have to be canon-compliant so if you insult them we'll beat the shit out of you'
It's just ridiculous how people are so willing to accept these idiots as totally having this disorder, to the point of defending them, when they're as blatant in faking it as this.
Like, this kid is 15 years of age and people are actually buying that they have DID to this degree, and with only fairly recently highly popular (especially in the big shipping circles, all of which this fucker was a part of before claiming the DID) characters as their so called fictives.
Also, you gotta love the 8 'littles'. Implying this kid (and yes they're 15) has that many younger 'kids' in their head too.
And fuck do I bet you anything
Also, mate, this person has factives, they've talked about having factives and defending the concept of them, pretty certain all of their unlisted ones are factives seeing as how their mention of having a factive was that they kept it unlisted (i.e. most likely MCyter's they want to RP as but they can't put up because the moment they do they'll be called out by the rest of the DID-fad communities for faking it seeing as how a good majority all hate that side of the community)
Is there a way to get access to the paper without paying $45 for it?
Like, I'd love to read this so if one of these retards ever starts trying to start shit I can shut them down, but not at that price
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The cringiest and most obvious faker I have seen is Sevencsystem on tiktok. Every fucking video she zooms in on her dumb fat smug face. She streams for ages and sits there defensive and aggressively slurping down cans of monster and only answering questions about did.
She has claimed to have did and tourettes. Claims that some alters dont have ticcs like others.
Has a terrible fake English alter named Collin and she's terrible at doing the accent so sounds like a bad Aussie accent.
Claims her alters are dating each other.
Is legit trying to sell plastic flowers in monster cans as 'art'
She 'switches' during lives and puts on voices which she forgets to keep doing halfway through.
In every one of her tiktoks she has this air of 'beat that' like she's bragging about being a fake retard.
She either has Pcos or is taking hormones to troon out because she has a patchy pube beard.
She has like every platform and 20k followers yet ive only seen her mentioned on reddit twice.
This guy gives me the biggest narcissist vibes.
I feel like the only reason his retard wife enables it is because they make money and get given shit by fans.
The most entertaining thing is to watch their live streams.
I saw a live unboxing of packages and its very obvious that she is sick of him. I noticed if she's getting more attention in the chat he will pipe up and do something stupid to be the centre of attention. The amount of times she rolls her eyes or tells him to grab another package is infinite.
She is very clearly done with him.
I somewhat feel sorry for her because they have a child together but she's an enabler like Lainey to Greg, so fuck her.
A good mother would get divorced and keep their kid away from this weirdo.
This is the stream.
The way she has to correct this manchild several times. Its like having a second kid. He also harasses her cat and she tells him to knock it off several times before he listens.
She also has to remind him to reward the dog for going to the toilet outside.
Fuck the money and gifts, I would have left the second he started being a troon. Cannot believe they have a child.
This thing is now doing porn.
Made the mistake of looking at it's twitter. Hairy fat man's body with different sized tits and so fat that she has to dig to touch her vagina.
So I came across this video about a tiktoker by the name fo "Twosoulsonebod". She has an alter named "James" her name is "Jesse". Anyone knows if she does the male voice by herself? It was so jarring because it's a decent male voice she does for "James" is it her lip syncing? Is she a troon?
Then she did some cringey videos "kissing" James. Anyone came across this idiot before? She has a video up right now smelling her arm pit and "talking" to James about how "she" smells. My internet is taking forever to download the tiktok video so I'm just going to post the video I was watching, for context on her. https://www.tiktok.com/@twosoulsonebod?lang=en
I came across this one too when I was watching some of that sevencssystem's videos because they put out some attention whoring video which was an apology for 'fakeclaiming' twosoulsonebody and went on to say it was one of their alters that 'fakeclaimed'
I didn't see a whole lot of their content before she privated but there's a heap of memes of tiktok about her Jessie and James thing being pokemon alters. Its bizarre how she will have mini conversations out loud with herself while in the middle of talking.
There is a few did cows including both of those mentioned that claim to have alters dating. I guess noone will touch them with a 10 foot pole so they have to date themselves
When I was a young teen, like 12-14 I claimed to have bipolar (which I thought would just be extreme mood swings from sad to happy and when I ''took my medicine'' I told my friend to look at me because I'm about to become really cheerful again lol). Another friend claimed to have schizophrenia and we went through a lot of different phases (like j-rock, emo, scene, "androgynous" etc.) and I also lied about other really ridiculous things I'm so glad we didn't have something TikTok back then to broadcast our tomfoolery to the whole world.
It's the adults who are in these faker communities and keep on pretending that have me concerned.
Yeah it's crazy that the older ones encourage the younger ones.
Some of the extreme ones will say that 'its more harmful to fakeclaim than it is for people to fake!'
It's fucked up they continue playing pretend down the track.
they prolly a fucken death metal poser too
"yea i listen to cannibal corpse!!" fuck outta here ya dag(sage your gatekeeping)
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Pretending to be mentally challenged like you're Maddie Ziegler in Sia's autism movie bc just having split personalities wasn't quirky enough
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what gets me she would "switch" and remember the video draft. i thought "switches" happen from triggers
anyways like for example, "oh i got fired from my job today" so boom a switch. lmao she only put on a sports bra and makeup. i can't keep up with their LARP rules or their split kins, sigh
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stumbled upon this dumpster fire of a person who simultaneously drivels on about how their 'unorthodox' trauma is valid (ie: saying their reaction to a breakup is trauma, and traumatic enough to cause an actual alter) while yelling at their mutuals to validate them lmao. theyre still secretive but not so much that it stops them from writing actual fanfiction and making half-assed 'information' posts about mental illnesses they've been larping online. picrel this is from one of their posts about did and how their """alter""" failed to alleviate their rotting toothache. also - tf is a seizure trigger?
i can post more if people are curious since this idiot will air any laundry out for a crumb of attention lol
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i really need to make more because this moron generates cringe-worthy posts like he gets paid by the word lmao but heres a small compilation for now. pink text posts are "edu posts" about disorders he claims to have and wants to educate people on (such as autism, did/osdd, bpd, pure-ocd ((also fakes epilepsy too btw)) and its all so much horseshit. hope you can see one of his sources is literally a fucking blog off al gore's internet. that and having the audacity to ask for donations and then quotes fucking MAYO CLINIC as a source.
also believes that switching is voluntary like he's playing DnD or some shit.
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you would think so but no they’re almost 23 kek. picrel this is just one of their many instances of whining about how valid
their trauma is (bc trying to convince everyone totally looks honest and genuine). i firmly believe that he’d latch on to a new diagnosis if he stubbed his toe or something
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>>1565142>also - tf is a seizure trigger?
Certain stimuli can trigger
a seizure in epileptic people, that's why you always get those "this game contains flashing lights and might not be suitable for people with epilepsy" warnings at the beginning of modern video games. Flashing lights, visuals that move in certain ways, and for a medically unknown reason, yes, hyperventilating. I think it's a pretty well known seizure trigger
second only to the classic flashing lights so it's a handy and easy thing to incorporate into your larp if you already hyperventilate multiple times a day and want even more attention over it KEK
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lol go figure - i found their first posts about some character they liked being epileptic and then immediately larping as epileptic + writing 3 fics about said character. all they do is brag about how bad their seizures are while always claiming to not be photosensitive + being able to control them. not to blog but ive lost family to epilepsy i really cannot stand this bitch
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couldnt fit 2 images on mobile sorry - heres some more. i cant believe people like this exist. most victimized person in the entire world syndrome - what do we have so far? pure-o, bpd, OSDD, epilepsy. OT but he whined about his eating disorder too saying shit like “guys i haven’t eaten in 8 hours this is bad” no bitch its called sleeping.
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last post but this is just too funny. faking so hard you forget how it works
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to be fair they are braindead so at least that tracks lmao
still pisses me off that he tries to get “online clout” off muscle spasms that most likely stem from sitting on his ass and reading about illnesses he can latch on to all day. picrel is another thing i found he just does not stop. how do you look like ed sheeran and get to ego to think you could get away w this
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so close to realizing yet so far
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claims to not have reg amnesia only emotional amnesia ????? literally picking and choosing “symptoms” so that they’re quirky enough to have osdd but not enough for it to impact their life in any way shape or form kek
Not shitting on mother's with mental issues but whenever I see DID people or troons who are parents I feel so sorry for the children and also wonder where they get the time for larping such nonsense.
Reeks of narcissism.
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Sorry for necro, here's a DID larper from reddit. People called her out in the comments.
always funny to see the bpds that pretend to be DID immediately flock to be offended>>1736863
system is just their word to mean their group of alters, but you're right. people with severe dissociative disorders aren't going to be so organized to make shit like detailed carrds for each alter.
yeah with "actual" or what we think DID is, but most of it is a crock of shit and just us not fully understanding issues related to complex trauma yet. also consider applying what's known about memory in relation to conditions like dementia or alzheimer's.
>not "I was so and so yesterday night"
not fully disagreeing with you cause most of these people are genuine lying retards or confused borderliners, but with all the modern devices that someone can record themselves on so as to recollect lost information on themselves the next day, it can be dismissed like that simply.
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I could watch a whole movie about did cringe
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Main blog is https://fangirlinginleatherboots.tumblr.com/
, DID blog is https://collectivelychatty.tumblr.com/
She's been posting for years and the "story" has been pretty consistent from what I've seen. She used to be a little popular but it was for fandom art, her stuff barely gets attention now so it doesn't seem to be motivated by that. She occasionally did the "this specific alter(s) is posting right now" thing but was the same person (for lack of a better way to put it) the majority of the time. In all the time I've been reading her blogs she has only had one major host change and their personality (or the limited bit I can gather from online posts) does seem to have changed. I can dig for specific posts later but nothing has ever really jumped out at as a huge red flag to me. The biggest thing would be the claim of ritualistic abuse but even then she speaks about it sparingly and seems bothered by how misunderstood it is (i don't think she's claiming satanic panic level stuff, just that her religious school was cult-like). When she first started bringing it up it was before the host change and she seemed hesitant to talk about it, though she did get a therapist that encouraged her to talk about it more. Interestingly the "current host" posted not too long ago that the "old host" really liked that therapist, but that the current one thinks he was more damaging than helpful. If it's a larp it's a really long and elaborate one
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From reading what you said, she could be genuine but in the sense that she's confused and really stuck in her primary coping mechanism. I could medfag a little to elaborate if you want but I'm already sperging a lot.
>Interestingly the "current host" posted not too long ago that the "old host" really liked that therapist, but that the current one thinks he was more damaging than helpful.
Iatrogenic DID is commonplace and a major issue for people seeking help, tons of therapists and psychs wanna find the next Sybil and get their five minutes of fame. The majority of therapists aren't good at their jobs and are ill equipped for complex trauma anyway.
>The biggest thing would be the claim of ritualistic abuse but even then she speaks about it sparingly and seems bothered by how misunderstood it is (i don't think she's claiming satanic panic level stuff, just that her religious school was cult-like).
This is the only possible red flag to me, but she could still be genuine as I said. Religions fuck people up, especially children, and we as a society regularly ignore it. Religious Post Traumatic Stress Disorder is a real enough thing, for example there are lots of people that struggle with vivid nightmares of burning in hell for their possible sins. Coming from an Abrahamic perspective, girls in particular are inundated with ideas such as how they are inherently sinful, evil temptresses of men, and have bad natures just from being descendants of Eve the doomer of man. That's psychologically abusive
and can cause girls to act out in all kinds of ways over the course of their lives. Even if you come from a less culty sect or family, it's still dependent on how the child takes that information in and processes it. Satanic panic is definitely bullshit though, and I personally dislike how it's called ritualistic abuse when it's probably just repetitive abuse in a religious setting or theme.
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