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Love Letter: My True Feelings (previously using the abandoned Yansim title LoveSick) is a bad attempt at reworking Yandere Simulator. Claimed by the dev to have been made entirely in one week, when in reality they reused every asset from Yansim and slightly changed the existing code to make it run better.
Currently working on the game:
DrApeis>Lead developer>Too much of a pussy to kick off incompetent artists from his team just because they are friends>Even more pussyness with posting an apology video (though this is now removed)>His only defense for reusing Yansim assets is that Yandev too stole assetshttps://twitter.com/DrApeis
Shortcake>Muh style uwu>Goes on a 13 year old level insultfests against people in her comments and calls it arguing with TERFs>Posts a vague apology about this after anons pointed out how unprofessional sounds in the art salt thread (possibly lurking?)>At the time of writing this thread her Twitter was locked shortly after the apology was postedhttps://twitter.com/shortcakeemoji
KibbySupreme>Apparently Lead artist?>Has better work than Shortcake, though that isn’t a big hill to climbhttps://twitter.com/KibbySupremehttps://www.instagram.com/kibbysupreme/
Witcherries>Only competent artist on the team>Potentially ulterior motives to join a project way below their skill levelhttps://twitter.com/Witcherrieshttps://www.deviantart.com/witcherehttps://www.artstation.com/studentartist
The full list of people working on this game is unclear as there’s no list and the people under the “game volunteer” role on discord don’t all have social medias linked, or are just not milky.
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Thought I'd include some extra screenshots for more context from the art salt thread
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Also for people out of the loop, here's a reddit talking about Yandere Dev. Basic drama on him ishttps://www.reddit.com/r/Osana/comments/hm0x6z/hypocrisies_in_yanderedevs_reaction_to_lovesick/
1. Uses unit assets but thinks he's original
2. gross fetishes in his game, even admits it should be legal to fuck 14 year olds (pedo)
3. Scamming his paetrons to keep producing a game that will never be finished. You see him streaming games more often than working on Yan Sim
4. incompetent coding. Hired coders in the past but got rid of them for petty reasons
5. mental break down at least once a week
Thanks, and I agree since this won't even have a super duper early pre-alpha build public, just a demo possibly. The people working on it already sounded milky and farmers were interested, so thought it would be good to have a thread already.>>1011743
Thanks for posting a summary on him, thought his drama was mainstream enough so I left that out from the op.
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maybe this is just this particular volunteer, but they sound so defensive. yandev fucking around and not actually working on stuff that mattered was a pretty highlighted issue with the yansim development, of course people are going to be concerned for this one too.
Problem is they really shot themselves in the foot with their first promo of "We made a better game in just 2 weeks"
So people expect huge progress in just a weeks time because the team said they were just that fast. I wouldn't be surprised if people expected a playable demo by next month
They are all back peddling cowards. First they were totally ripping on yandere dev. Then they made that weak apology video to Yan Dev. Then they took the video down. They flip flop a lot.
At first they admitted proudly they were trying to one up Yan Dev and shame him. Now they are lying their butts off saying they were inspired by the yandere concept.
no need to get mad, friend
yeah I agree with this statement. One is tryhard that wants to "beat yanderedev" the other one is a fucking weirdo who thinks its okay to have sex with teens. The funny thing is that the weirdo thinks that the tryhard is scamming people while the weirdo has a patreon that use to give him around 3k a month, it just recently started dropping as some of his fanbase stopped believing in him. Then he goes and weeps to his discord lackeys "the intwenet is bweing mean to mehh wahh" if he wants his fans and his respect back he should stop spending money on sex dolls and actually learn to fucking program and at least make the game playable.
I agree but Yandev used to use the "it's a placeholder!" excuse so much when it comes to stolen assets that it's just doesn't bother me that much at this point
Eventually they will replace everything before making the built available to the public so they won't be accessible to extract, contrary to the original Yansim where you could the stolen stuff (from what I read from KF they aren't even deleted and still in the files?)
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Your art looks like this and you choose to work on a yansim clone, I know she’s 18 and could still be into that kind of stuff I guess but man
Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if Witcherries has a bunch of hidden milk about her. This game seems to attract the most milky people.
I don't doubt her age, but I wouldn't be surprised if she was much older than she claims and pulls the old "My internet sona is 18" card.
All tinfoil, but main fact is, her intentions and her whole demeanor are sketchy
It seems all yansim clones are dumpster fires. It was a cool idea a few years ago but now it's an annoying dying fad.
Dude no one is saying Yandev is a good guy. Everyone agrees he's a piece of shit relax. It's just this thread is mainly for loveletter. You can talk about Yandev here, hell post up the screen caps like this anon did >>1011743
But don't get your panties in a twist because people think that loveletter is a shitshow as well. We already know about Yandevs milk. This is new milk that needs to be cultivated
Exactly this, no idea if there's a yansim thread here, but this was created for loveletter, both can be talked about.
Also it wasn't that I didn't believe the screenshots being real, but that the message was unclear so I wasn't sure if he was actually trying to say what it was interpreted as.
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people are really expecting the game to have a demo soon, they really set themselves up for impatience.
also op forgot to link DrApeis's youtube channel, i think it's important for it to be here since that's where he posts previews and has been posting tracks from the ost.https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9DgPHt57joR3ADe2LqkL2w
This is what happens when you claim to make a better game in two weeks.
I have no idea why they made that ridiculous claim in the first place unless they really like stress
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This is actually a more tame break down Yan Dev has frequently. Lemme see if I can find the one where he says he will kill himself if the love letter team keep making the game
Also plenty of people have offered help to YanDev. It's just he's a massive asshole
That and keep in mind over the 6 years of working on yan sim he gathered like 20k
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they just keep getting worse and worse artists
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branching off to other stuff before the game even has a demo is the stupidest thing they can do
also apparently shortcake unlocked her twitter, but she didn't post anything milky, just purged the apology and other stuff
100% agree. I don’t think she’s 18 and her willingness to work on a project that outsiders can see is doomed to fail because it’s drama and handicap to be known as “better than yandere sim”
Does anyone know what this means, “love letter manga”?
Is it in game items or..?
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The manga wasn't even a real thing. Is the whole team a bunch of unorganized teenagers that don't communicate?
What, why would they… they are really following Alex path>>1012288
Oh, but why do I get the impression that they ACTUALLY wanted to make it an official manga but saw it didn't worked out lol
From what Apeis has said he is fresh outta collage and was making code. Him and his friend were ex supporters of YanSim and were tired of waiting for YanDev. These two are the only "Professionals" on the team;
They have accepted help from many volunteers, but with no quality checks for the sake of feelings being spared it wont be a professional game, but it will be something
At first it was a fan game (it was a burn, but a funny one) but after YanDev threw one too many tantrums they are saying it is now a stand alone game that is competing with YanSim.
Also note that YanDev recently threw another tantrum saying his feelings are hurt and the development of his game will end in 2021. No more sex dolls for him
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It's official, to spare ShitCakes feelings the dev team made Bow Chan a "thicc" white girl even though they claimed to aim towards a Japanese setting
They are currently having problems with the model breaking and showing expressions since forcing it to be that large is proving problematic
That was obviously BS. She's one of those body positive types, only because she herself is a chunky girl. I can't find it but she mentions Bow Chan has "real proportions"
Which is funny as fuck
what the hell, i didn't think to screenshot it but they made a manga updates channel shortly after i took the screenshots. they are really stupid if they thought people wouldn't interpret it as a full manga over just small skits. >>1012343
i'm gonna give it to them that i think the mouth is supposed to look weird on that shot because that's also a screenshot from a stupid skit, but it's possible they were just trying to pass off the issue as a joke.
also drapeis has finally "~uwu distanced himself~" from the server this time, which is somehow an excuse for them to shut down the questions channel since they already barely cared about answering anyone.
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They are working on a new model now
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This project is desperate for a website where people can get information. The official Twitter and subreddit are so flooded with fanart and makes it hard to find information on progress and who's doing what.
3D model seems to be by @MoccaDeShibe on Twitter, using witcherries character design.
I can't even tell if Shortcake is still involved anymore.
yea i'm not sure either, she hasn't been tweeting at all and only has "the TRUE creator of bow-chan" in her bio, nothing about working on the project.
maybe i'm just being overly suspicious but it feels like they are trying to hide who's a volunteer on the project? the discord doesn't have the volunteer role anymore, also it seems the entire admin team changed again? outset isle who runs the loveletter twitter isn't an admin anymore and even left the server and i can't see the other admin who's name i forgot, but i remember them having a gif of zuko from atla as a profile pic.
I think when they saw the model based on Shortcakes design someone was like "Nuh uh!" and took it into their own hands. Horay for them for accepting help. They sure dodged a bullet "Sorry I didn't fire you, the fans did. But I can credit you for the basic design"
Them giving Shortcakes credit for the design is already generous imo
That does seem hella suspicious. However, this was a game birthed from drama. There was no team at all. Here's something to think about
The project started off with 2 coders who were cocky AF. They ripped the game and made an announcement they did it in 2 weeks. They were using Yansim assets and made an apology video.
They removed the apology video when they got a bunch of artists donating their hard work and new assets for them. So they removed the apology since now they can 100 percent say they didn't use any of Yan assets.
Still no playable demo even though they are still currently bragging they are further ahead in game development than Yansim. No release date either. Though they never asked for money and donations so it isn't scummy.
But at this point so many people are donating their time and creative imput I can't really say it's Apies game. More like this is a community game.
Writers, artists, other coders and so on.
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Witcherries/seekndestroy isn’t part of the LL team anymore. 1/2
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It was. Apies was once a huge supporter of Yandev too but he wanted to ride the hate train and get his 5 minutes of fame.
Though Yandev still wins the award for biggest cow. You can't really top that. But it's like picking the lesser of two evils
I think the only way to make a yandere game that's drama free is to not post any of the development and just release the game like "Surprise!"
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I mean I understand her as an artist, this could had helped her portfolio since basically in her artstation she has no other credentials or experience. It's dumb, but understandeable. She got what she wanted (exposure) so w/e
Are you sure that's her? She seemed to promote the project just a day ago, I thought that was the lead artist>>1015200>I think the only way to make a yandere game that's drama free is to not post any of the development and just release the game like "Surprise!"
Indeed, even YandereDev acknowledged that. The reason I was interested in past fanmade projects (Watashi no mono etc.) was too see this concept put into development without Alex's mistakes but Love Letter is the first one that does all of them…
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Welp that is her nvm
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people were saying that making this thread was jumping the gun, i think dedicating your entire youtube channel to new game with not even a demo is a way bigger jump.
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Yet another redesign now witcherries is gone, and replaced with a far worse artist
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Shortcake confirmed fired and kicking up drama.
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kek (from cake's twitter)
of course he did, it might be just a little lie but this kinda stuff just makes me 100% more suspicious of him. of course the two week thing was a lie too but with witcherries leaving it makes me wonder what's going on behind the scenes.>>1015365
didn't watch the videos, but this might mean the leaked stuff this guy >>1015300
was talking about is actual leaks
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shortcake made a thread about how the creation of bowchan wasn't a group effort
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she obviously won't sue so i'm not even sure what's the point of bringing up the copyright law. it's nice to get another perspective on drapeis though, he went off the discord pretty quick and he doesn't have a lot of (known) background to get a handle of his character.
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after this tweet she also posted some screenshots of process pictures she uploaded to discord but i didn't think that was too important to put here.
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Well that's no surprise. She's one of the hugest factors this thread was made. But the fact that other volunteers have already quit as well makes me wonder what's behind the scenes
The fact that this much drama has popped up in just one month is not a good look>>1015406
Honestly she and Apies have no idea how copyright work. She can fuck off. She made a generic female character in 5 minutes and is hoping she will get more than 5 minutes of fame for being a shit artist. I don't feel bad for her seeing her past tweets against "the turfs"
That and the character in game looks nothing like her shitty art. She doesn't own a hair style
I think one of Apies main issues is not looking into people. Looking at Shortcakes profile for 5 minutes would have shown she is an attention seeking, unstable troll.
Witcherries was also only in it for attention as well. Now he has a shit ton of drama because of these crazy bitches and it is his fault for being this damn sloppy and frankly? Lazy.
It's been confirmed he was working on the Yansim rip for months, not 2 weeks. He didn't want to create new assets for the game until all these people jumped in to offer up free labor. He was too lazy to check who they were and accepted the free help right away.
shortcake is definitely not right up there, but acting like drapies is just too dumb for his own good when we already have two volunteers talking about mistreatment and we don't know much about his character is blatant ignorance, even defending. his lying also doesn't point to anything good.
also where did you get that he has been working on it for months? everywhere i've seen he said he threw it together in 2 weeks with some other guy.
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Looks like they are redesign her yet again, also do they really have to roleplay
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It's interesting they are changing Bow's hairstyle, when this person I follow on Deviantart posted recently that he thinks they "copied" it from a fanmade hairstyle they created for Kizana (a YanSim character). They seem to want no drama with Love Letter though so I feel a bit bad for posting this lmao
Though I don't believe you can "steal" a hairstyle, the way it's drawn looks really similar, also this artist has 6.5K followers so it's not like their art was hidden in a corner of the internet. I wouldn't be surprised it Shortcake heavily referenced it, her art doesn't seem creative at all
I dont think you can still a hairstyle either but there's no way she didn't reference this character. The hair swirl at the bottom is exactly the same and are the bang swoops and curl placements.
I don't see a problem with it but her whole argument about it's her property and she's being original is just laughable
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yeah i feel like she really can't come up with original ideas and over-references a lot. she posted this early design of bowchan too on twitter, and she looks to be pretty based off of yansim's protagonist at this point.
Not even her own "friends" use the silly they/them pronouns. Amazing.>>1012449
Yeah, it was specifically funny because she implied that she literally just used her own body proportions as a model and of course got thirsty emote reactions on the discord message. She must have felt really validated knowing incels were going to fap to the thought of her THICC double chin that night.
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Reminds of Ayano from Kagepro
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so they redesigned the main character again only to… go back to a design that looks similar to yansim's protagonist?
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at least senpai finally doesn't look disgusting and is different from yansim, but still extremely boring and basic. i wonder who the specific artist is for these designs.
This art is better, but this design is not iconic or memorable in any way. It's not protagonist material. She looks like a stock character.
At most, a character like this would be senpai's childhood friend that gets slaughtered in the first chapter to get the story and atmosphere of the game rolling. The most we'd see of someone like this is missing person posters, and maybe a photo of her and senpai together.
They shoulda just stuck with Bowchan. Her design wasn't anything crazy, but It was still more unique, cute, memorable than this.
I wonder what was the thought process behind this new design. There's no way the creators think this is better than the original.
I’m surprised that the team doesn’t just make a whole cast of senpais. Each with their own personality, and the plot has the yandere go on different routes to get “acquainted” With said caste.
They could make the game memorable with different cast of characters rather than make a yansim 2.0
It could be like a fucked up version of otome games
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I love how we know exactly when shortcake stepped in with her allegations. But like I said before, why is she so bothered by the character rights if she will receive the credit. Like, as soon as she dissented from the team, did she want to take the character design too? What a cuck
She was an obvious cow before she joined the team. She THRIVES off drama. Hell in her past tweets she would do it on purpose. She's probably creaming herself at the idea. It's their fault for letting someone so cringy on in the first place. Just because she was the first artist to volunteer. She is only in it for the attention because no one liked her shit art before.
She's also stupid as fuck. People only cared for her art for 5 seconds because it was burning Yansim. Now that she's not attached to it she's going to go back to obscurity since no one liked her shit before.
It's not even character theft. She has no idea how this works. It's just as stupid and cringy as YanDev saying he owns the design of Yandere chan even though she's just a unity asset.
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wow the drama is moving unbelievably fast now. they are trying to pass this off as proof of someone sexually harassing someone and apeis wanting to bring them back on the team, but they keep censoring names out, and this is just some people having a conversation about it, literally not proof at all.https://twitter.com/BowChanFeelings/status/1289406643344560130?s=20
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this definitely shows the team to be incredibly petty and childish, but disliking a bad clickybaity video (from the guy, cameron, who was apparently getting the leaks from shortcake) isn't ""raiding"". this entire account is just blowing things out of proportion instead of highlighting the real bad parts.
One… this is just hersay
and two?… how do you sexually assault someone on the internet?
This reminds me of the Spoctor situation all over again.
Prepare for conveniently cropped screen shots of flirting where she baits him into saying something pervy.
Honestly this game is a shitshow. The yan game genre is cursed
Also ShitCakes over here pissy cuz she thinks she owns a hair style but she was the one doing leaks of the game without permission. She can fuck right off
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it annoys the shit out of me that this account doesn't reveal names, but by lead artist, i'm assuming kibby who has been in full radio silence left the team. not like they had any milk, it's just stupid they made them lead artist for nothing.
I knew this was gunna be a good thread
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you either die a hero or live long enough to be dismissed for drama
goddamn i should have posted screenshots from this long post first, everything from that account is taken from here, but uncensored and going into details. this entire project is a train wreck of amateur, petty and childish people who don't know how to organize shit.
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When Yandev is making a poll
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Dude this just shows that she got an inflated ego when she gave her voice in that youtube video and did the art and was running around the server moderating it.
I do agree with Shitcakes on 1 thing. She thought it was a mistake Apies didn't do a background check and looked into her social. You're telling me.
The moment she joined the team the drama just escalated. Hell, she seemed to have her nose in every incident. Like Apies and YanDev are shit but how is no one noticing ShortCakes is a drama whore?
She even threw a fit when the dev team found an official VA for Bow chan. So she helped convinced another VA he should be Bow Kun instead of the guy they chose.
Apies really dropped the ball when not checking her social and seeing she was problematic
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And there are people defending this chick. She's a literal autistic sperge
This one wasn't even a month ago. I wouldn't give a person like this credibility.
The voice actor is a different person. She tweeted in >>1015723
that she was submitting her story to the expose blog.
They need to stop replacing people's work once they quit/are fired/whatever.
It's bad enough they basically announced the game when the development is in such early stages
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Another redesign of Setsuna has been posted. Thoughts? I kind of like her.
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Reminds me of the Kyousou Giga MC
Yikes the similarities are strong. The new character looks cute tho. Rip the new artist, I wonder how long they’ll stay
- I also looked on the new artists’ twitter and they seem pretty big, I’m surprised they want to work on this despite all the clear red flags (unless she was just there for a character design)
YanDev may be scum, and hardly codes, but he doesn't light up Twitter with rapid fire responses like DrApeis does.https://twitter.com/DrApeis/status/1290524598572810242
Dude. You're just making it worse for yourself by feeding into this shit lol.
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so apparently apeis had another failed gameproject under his belt just he used as another name at the time. it failed so hard i can't find any info on it, but because of the name i'm assuming it's also a yansim clone.
also i love how in the comments little kids are going "but he is owning up to his mistakes!!!!!". a new generation of kids getting fooled by the yandere game is in the making.
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i have absolutely no idea how they got a person who's the artist of a mayor webtoon and has 40k followers to be a volunteer, either this was a one time thing or she is actually getting payed.
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Isaky has released an statement officially retiring her support from the game but she says the design of the protagonist belongs to them now and that she can't do anything about it… did she even try asking them nicely or
Funny how a 28yo woman with lots of followers and a popular webtoon to her name got involved in this mess yet never realized it could be dangerous to her reputation lol she's a personal cow of mine, she's constantly begging for attention and crying about her depression yet she's spoiled as hell, bought a dog from a breeder just to have the same dog as one of her comic's characters and the Snow Miku rant >>1018066
What the fuck is happening anyway?
I wanna blame the attention whoring artists but why do they all leave in less than a week? Well, smart artists wont touch this with a 50ft pole anyway
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how in the bloody hell do they keep getting so many volunteers, do they just ask any person who makes fanart for the game to give them their art and they just do it without looking into them?
it's probably "oh named artist
did art for them? I should do art for them as well!"
lol before you know it every twitter artist will do art for this shit show
WAS he doxxed?
I hate that a lot of people recently are going on the hype train, saying that they have been doxxed when they themselves have put out that info once before, you know, in PUBLIC
So it’s getting hard to believe some people when they say that they were doxxed, especially when if the other person DID, they could sue or put the other in jail
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it's actually kinda confusing, apies posted this screenshot as proof i think, the post is now deleted, but the public love letter server has a bot posting his tweets, so they are basically logging his stuff lol.
kiwifarms actually only posted his real name, no address so this is barely a dox coming from them. i'll post a screenshot of some of the info that hasn't come up here about him, i'll censor his name just in case that's considered doxxing by the standards of this website.
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above the text there's a screenshot of him showing his face in a facebook post where he asks if he looks like hitler.
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i don't use kf so i'm not familiar with it's board culture, but i don't understand how they are okay with someone directly involved with the drama (and being the exact type of person they usually hate) posting on the thread.
on the other hand though, this is a really fascinating tidbit.
Lmao, she has no proof. I hate sounding pro-apies, but it’s so gross how obsessed this girl is with trying to ruin this guy’s career with accusations W/o clear evidence.
She acts all “poor me, being fOoLed, and not being protecTed by this inexperienced, volunteer team uwu”.
I don’t normally like YouTube commentators, but I hope someone does a precise vid that gives the shitcake whiplash on her own gross behavior
are you the same anon who sounded like they were defending apies a few days back? no one is saying everything is his fault, but being the project head and the one who started it makes you responsible for everyone under you. most drama in this project can be traced back to his his mistakes and inactions too anyway.>So I hope he’ll take this all in experience, whether or not the game comes into fruition.
he has two previous failed yansim clones, i don't think he is going to learn anything anytime soon lol.
Not the same anon as the one you’re referring to, but from the website/document made on the drama associating With LL, you can’t deny that it makes it sound like everything is Apies fault, and I said that in my own post.
The most problematic
action that he has taken Was that vote He done to ask whether or not bring back a guy reported to be inappropriate.
The rest, Are from issues that should not be in his definitive control,There’s a reason why he has Team “managers”, so that they can deal with the problems before he can. But the team, primarily shortcake, is putting the blame all on his end.
Like I said, I don’t want to sound bias, but from what I’ve seen so far, he may not be the main culprit, but rather a massive miscommunication between Overestimated “managers” and employees, making a disgusting environment to work in, which we don’t even know if Apies is trying to help fix due to all the drama coming in from a week ago(and which most the reports of work issues occurred within that particular week rather than various months prior)
> he has two previous failed yansim clones
Yuck, then nvm maybe he won’t learn
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the public server's mods are so incredibly childish too, why would you even make a channel for talking about drama in the first place if you wanna play ~uwu we are so nice~ act on the server?
Because this game was born from drama in the first place. There is still no playable demo despite their claims they are further ahead in development in yan sim. Knowing this clown has 2 failed games under his belt, I feel like he only does it to get some attention to feel good about himself.
Everyone on this "team" seems like total flakes
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these tweets back to back made me loose my shit, this fucking dude
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how do people still lick his ass when he posts shit outright admitting he has barely worked on a game that started with him fucking over someone else?
>[..] i came to help out for a bit for two weeks until we released the announcement trailer
i only wanted to help out for a bit since i didn’t really have any plans but eventually i ended up programming most of the core mechanics of the game since i got too into it>then narwhals decided to tell a random group of people that i’m actually epicmeal-dev without my consent
i decided to leave because i didn’t wanna contribute to the reason why i left in the first place and because narwhals broke our agreement to keep my identity hiddenhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1oFod79mrw8qUI7gaEvRMXfKv-Jl47557nMsUruS3pWc/edit
Fucking hell. Epicmealdev was the one who made the other YanSim fangame, Watashi No Mono, and it was actually fucking original because they made everything from scratch. They explicitly stated that it was a fangame and credited YanSim and YanDev despite creating their OWN models and characters and gameplay mechanics from the get-go, which is already miles ahead of Dr-"We created a better game than YanDev in two weeks!!! 1!"-Apeshit.
Epicmealdev released the source code for Watashi No Mono and announced that the project was cancelled because they didn't like all the comparisons people made (tho there are alleged screenshots where YanDev is having a hissy fit and telling EMD to delete the game because it's plagiarism and deleting would be the honest thing to do).
Honestly, I wish that Watashi No Mono had taken off instead of Love Letter. The dev just seems much more competent and genuinely nice.
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>>1019768>yandev tries to spite mike z>love letter team try to spite yandev>both projects are a dumpster fire that bit off more than they can chew
A comment I found that perfectly describes why this was doomed from the start
>I think the reason we’ve seen such a problem with “yandere games”, not just love letter or yandere sim, is because of the audience it attracts. Even though the violence isn’t appropriate it is mainly young children and teenagers who really want these games and are the prime audience, so management for love letter should’ve realised this and be conscious of who they are hiring for volunteers. Children and teenagers are inexperienced by nature, and like you say it’s probably very noticeable the skill level when you have inexperienced teenagers and those that have at least worked on games before.
>Teenagers may think they are acting mature and professional but they likely are not, not to say every teenager is like another and there were probably mature teenagers on the project, but predominantly, again, they are inexperienced.
>I do genuinely want Love Letter to do well, I’ve enjoyed what I’ve seen and I hope Dr Apies and management learn from these mistakes and actually be professional. I feel like you’re sharing your thoughts out of concern for the workers on the project and to help management see where they are going wrong. The fact he even considered to bring that person back was just wrong, you know if the person has done sexual harassment before they will do it again when they have power.
Didn't EMD already create the whole game on his own though? I remember one of the the gameplay channels I watch talking about Watashi No Mono a while back and as far as I can tell, it's a one man team?>>1020963
I agree. It's a real shame it didn't get completed, considering EMD has worked on it for actual years on his own, unlike Apeis who is hiring sexual predators and minors to complete this shit show. I imagine Yanderedev is rolling in his basement right now.
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At this time, we can all agree that she isn’t doing this because “her poor character was stolen”
Like, she straight up spent money to keep this shit oc, now what pisscake?
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She only noticed it after the drama, and guessed that was the reason why Apeis wanted her design, just read
Wait, I’m confused. Wasn’t bow-Chan already designed (except for the colours) as an oc or something that she volunteered to the project? This as example: >>1015401
How can she be pushed to design Bow-Chan like that character when her character already looked like that (minus the colours)
That doesn’t make sense
Honestly, now I’m wondering if I’ll get sued for posting any art of a girl with a skirt and knee socks or any other resemblance like auburn hair
I don’t get it, does shitcake want this character or not, she went through this whole process for a generic character that she prob won’t use professionally just to piss on a project that SHE volunteered for
yeah it's a shitshow but this guy sounds salty for losing a character role.
he keeps going on about not caring to have the lead character voice roll after insisting to recast voices and after he gets the roll, when someone comes up to him to ask him about another problematic
person he didn't wan't to be "that" guy anymore?" He also complains that the whole production was unprofessional as hell (I mean surprise when its run by children) but then goes off himself talking about gay porn in the actor team chat? and when an under aged moderator talks to him he says to him "your daddy gave you good advice" as some obscure reference.
Also for someone who keeps saying how many people where there for clout he seems to bring up the fact he was bow-kun for 5 minutes an awefull lot
I'd be more inclined to believe that if it wasn't for his video title, and how often he brings up that he totally didn't care about the character roll and how he wasn't like other people who just wanted their name in the credits (while also stating later again that he didn't care about the bow-kun roll because the staff had already promised his name in the credits)
it comes of as a lot of "I totally didn't care about the lead roll I am not like OTHER people on the project) I believe a lot of shit went down and a lot of stuff he discussed was stuff we already know was fucked up, I still find it weird how he was vocal about the original bow-kun voice actor being gross (rightly so) but than after he gets the roll and he gets approached again about another individual he doesn't want to make anymore fuss, which he only mentions by in passing and doesn't really elaborate? and the way he described the situation about nsfw it seems like it mostly started with people listing the kind of work they had done which included nsfw voice acting and he just steered it to talk about a hobby of watching edited gay porn. and honestly it isn't even about that I just find it funny the guy who complains that the production was completely unprofessional was behaving in a similar unprofessional manner
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bitch trying to make her own game now lol wow what a transparent cunt.
Well she is a lolcow. It's best to keep an eye on her. In the future she might have her own thread.
But she's so brain dead she didn't realize the ONLY reason people pretended to give a shit was because it was in a possible game. And they hated her style so much they re drew her better.
wow, i honestly didn't expect this. she could of course learn programming along the way, and unity has it's own syntax you don't learn when you are learning c#/js, but… i honestly think she is too stupid to understand the way code is supposed to be read.
also making unity out to be this hard difficult tool to make herself look better is laughable, it's extremely easy to use and since it's free there are millions of tutorials for it.
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saged because not milk, but i find it funny that not only the game dev team can't have consistent members because everyone keeps leaving/getting fired, but the fan server is having constant turn overs too. madoc stepped down as admin last week and became a mod and now they just completely left lol.
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TheGameSleuth, friend of DrApeis and an avid critic of YandereDev, has apparently posted NSFW art of Lincoln Loud and Lori Loud on the Discord. He justifies himself on this post. The comments are full of people expressing their disappointment at him, and from what I can tell, he keeps doing shady shit, apologizing, deleting his apologies and acting passive aggressive about it.
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lardcake says she doesnt "want to be part of the drama" yet she continues to pander the love letter our feelings drama seriously this bitch is just seeking atention on her shit character that is a copy of another shitty character now she is really hinting that she is making a game, but like the typical fatass she will get tired and forget all about it but not before milking it dry.
ugh I swear this girl is such an atention whore, lol like >>1028004
anon said she is so transparent if she actually cared she wouldnt be making it such a circus and all about her. lol give it a few weeks nobody is gonna even care about her or her dumbass character. Honestly why are twitter artists such cows,they are basically cookie cutter at this point and her art is shit tbh.
>>1027924>my heart goes out to the designer.. I’m so sorry that they had to go through that
???? What??? I’m sorry, but Isn’t the new designer the same artist who left just because they heard of the drama associated with the project?>>1018390
This guy?^ Lmao, they weren’t hurt
>what will I do with bow Chan now?
Yikes, why would you want to keep a character that “caused you stress because the volunteer team was so mean uwu”
I hope she makes her own game, makes content because when it turns to shit, she has no one to blame but herself. Her half assed excuse that the LL team should’ve protected her from the backlash of ppl being repulsed by her art and finding her Lulzy for saying “uwu it’s my artstyle” is ALL her fault, not the team.
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not milk but now she is retweeting yansim stuff, lol the plot thickens, I wont be surprised if she does end up joining yandev
Oh I just found his update ignore me I’m a tard>>1029107
The more I learn about this stuff, the more I think that they’re basically the same, just as bad as each other.
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Osana and yansims official demo is finished, hows love letter gonna react?
It's good for yan sim, and he can add updates with patches. But with the speed he did this I feel like he could have done this release years ago, he just didn't want to to keep the gravy train going.
I haven't really heard big news on love letter. Another failed Yansim game on Apies belt.
Honestly both games look so bad and dated and both teams are full of their own respective cows. Maybe that rumor of yansim games being cursed is true. Or as another mentioned before, it's just a genre that attracts cows
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this design couldn't be more on the fucking nose
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I heard that the people working on it are nearly all under 18. I don’t know if it’s true, I know there’s rumors about Aepis himself being late teens, but this seems to be a weird trend. Cringey kids thinking that knowing what a for loop is means they can build a whole game and that they know better than literally anyone else how it’s done. It wouldn’t be a problem if they just worked on it as a fun learning project instead of acting like they’re a legit group and trying to get money out of people.
Alex is undoubtedly a creep and a tard, but I would feel a little bad for him if he wasn’t predatory. The fact that one of the things people harp on the most is “he should have used a switch instead uwu” shows that most of the haters are just as retarded.
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lol this salty bitch keeps retweeting month old drama, she really wants to undermine the loveletter project, there is no need tho they are already fucking themselves up, all they did was light a fire under yanpedo's ass like >>1032380
said both developers are shit and the whole yandere concept is shit to begin with.
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so this is love letter's version of info-chan. and another volunteer we never even heard of before, do they not realize it's super shady that they don't mention all the volunteers somewhere in a list like yandev doesn't do either? they think of all of them as replaceable.
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Has this been discussed here yet? DrApeis preying on a 10 year old girl, sending her porn and dickpics and asking her to masturbate.
the full story with screenshots is in this googledoc
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working link to the document, god everyone involved with yansim is a fucking pedophile
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it's better to read the whole document because the poster gives more context to everything
It's not the wrong link, it's just without the https:// cause thats useless. It's the same fucking link as you posted.
Also apparently he was 15 when he was talking to this 10 year old. Not technically a pedo, but a predatory creep nontheless and obviously emotionally stunted.
Imagine wanting to talk to a 10 year old who can't even string one normal sentence together.
A pedo is anyone who is attracted to children. And it would be highly unlikely that a 10 year old would be anywhere close to sexual maturity.
10 year olds are stupid, their bodies aren't developed, they're not attractive physically, and they don't understand things 15 year olds would. It is not normal for a 15 year old male to want to be sexual with anyone that doesn't have mature sexual features. Same with a 15 year old girl and a little 10 year old boy. It's creepy. It's pedo-y.
I mean really. Who wants
to have any kind of sexual conversation with a kid? At best, it's just awkward, cringey, and weird.
Calm down. I wasn't defending this creep. I'm just saying a 15 year old can't be a pedophile cause they are still a child themself, have an undeveloped brain and are retarded.
I'm not saying it's normal or healthy for a 15 year old to try to bang a 10 year old. It's creepy and predatory and he will probably grow up to be a full-on pedo. I'm just reminding people that this person is 15 and not 25 going after a 10 year old. In my eyes that doesn't absolve them, but makes a difference cause we're not talking about an adult.
>>1039130>15 year old can't be a pedophile
If he likes prepubescent bodies, he's 100% a pedo. Does the document show evidence of this? No. All we know is that he was having sex-based conversations with a 10 year old. Conversations that were really cringey and inappropriate to have with a 10-year old.
The screenshots shown in the document seem to show him being more "lol sex funny haha horny sex-obsessed teen boy lul" than actually being sexually interested in this minor. If he was interested in the minor and wanted to date them or sex them in any way, then I would consider that pedophilia completely.
What I dislike most from the document is people saying that it doesn't matter because they were both minors. A 10-year old can be damaged by these kinds of actions, even if they come from another minor. Trying to rush sexual development of a child can have bad repercussions. It would be different if the child were interested and asking questions on their own accord, but the minor was clearly not interested or ready for teen-level sex talk.
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looks like after the last pedophilia drama even the biggest supporter group of the game, the love letter discord server is shutting down, probably with majority of users walking away with hating and being disgusted by apies. so yeah, looks like even if the game is finished (which i doubt it will be), no one is going to buy it.
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apies also posted this doc confirming most of the shady shit he has done, i don't even get why he kept badly lying about them.
>>1039338>If he likes prepubescent bodies, he's 100% a pedo
So anyone who is already in puberty and still attracted to someone who is not yet in puberty is a pedophile? It doesn't make sense. You can be a creepy pervert without being a pedo.
>you know that dying on this hill of "hey guys he is slightly less pedophilic than you think!" just makes it sound like you are totally defending him because there's no point in pointing that out?
I think there is a point. A 30 year old man going after a 10 year old and a 15 year old boy going after a 10 year old is a different level of creepy cause a 30 year old is a grown adult, a 15 year old is also still a child and while they should not be talking sexually to 10 year olds, their brains are still developing and making retarded and inappropriate decisions when you are a hormonal teenager are different than the actions of an adult.
This is the whole reason why we don't prosecute people under 18 the same as adults, unless of course you live in murrica and regularly send children to jail as if they were adults, thus dooming them for life.
I don't even know anything about this guy, so I don't know why I'm even defending this, but he hasn't actually raped anyone or done anything criminal as far as I know. He's just a pornsick creep like most men raised on the internet.
god shut up already, you are just repeating yourself over and over again. stop pedo defending, are you just projecting your own bullshit on him or what?
>I don't even know anything about this guy, so I don't know why I'm even defending this, but he hasn't actually raped anyone or done anything criminal as far as I know.
then catch up on the thread you actual retard and stop parroting bullshit. he doesn't need to rape someone to be a pedophile and he has a history of still acting sexual around people regardless of if the people in the chat are underage or not.
She actually is 18
I used to be in a roleplay group with her
She’s a HUUUGGEE clout chaser who humble brags ALOT so that’s probably why she wants to join the team
Nta but no he'd be a creepy teen at that point, not a pedo yet. Scary and should be monitored for sure.. but labeling him a full blown pedo from that? Nah. He's not being cancelled for this for a reason. Still a creepy loser though.
Saw their update video and it's actually depressing what the game looks like rn considering the time, resources, and bragging that went into it.
comments are of course blocked on it though.
but once again, no you can totally be a pedophile at 15, a bunch of pedophiles develop their pedophilia along with puberty, at their sexual awakening, and 10 year old is a fucking toddlers compared to a 15 year olds. please stop pedo defending already.
"yandere sims are cursed"
No dumbass. You and your production team saw the wreckage of yandere dev's game, and then you proceeded to follow in his footsteps exactly by releasing a preview way before you should have.
It's not drama's fault and it's not the fans' fault. It's a retarded dev team's fault who don't know how to get their shit in gear and properly develop something like this.
they needed to kick her right away when all the fans were upset with her very existence. But the dumbass made her a mod on his server cuz she happened to make a character design similar to his last failed project.>>1043734
No surprise there
"We made a game in a week" wasn't already attention seeking drama
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Dude that youtube description. Didn't Yandere dev say something eerily similar? The two are the same idiot.
But again, who didn't see that coming?
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DrApeis posted this earlier today. The comments are also turned off on his community posts (even stuff posted in the past). This isn't the only cap I've got of his lockdown stuff.
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The current channel description.
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Since this hasn't, contrary to the file name, I'll also post this too.
The top line of the description from the previous update; this is also posted on the other update videos, even the OST videos and, strangely, his Examining Yandere Simulator videos.
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And this is what he has to say about people wanting him to open source the game. I'm not sharp enough to know about it being illegal to open source something with paid assets but this smells like bullshit.
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Oh! Thank you, I didn't actually know that was a thing. That was bad faith of me to be irritated by that. But I agree with >>1046064
- it shouldn't be that hard, hell you could release a build with geometric shapes making up the characters and call it a day.
pic unrelated to what I'm saying - recent screencaps of his two new discussions on his Youtube(Comments remain turned off, making me question where exactly he's seeing people talk about game development vlogs.)
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In addition, this is what his current Twitter looks like.