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A basic rundown of this newly surfaced drama:
Zoe Quinn considers herself an indie game developer.
She put forward her concept for an indie game focused around the theme of depression towards Steams greenlight system. Surprisingly her game, now named Depression Quest, did end up being greenlit, however people were perturbed and angered by the game turning out to be not quite what it was described to be whilst in greenlight status. Essentially the game is a wall of text and you pick and choose different answers to progress and thus forth "heal your depression".
She gained backlash over using Robin William's death in order to promote the game and has also been found to be misappropriating donated funds.
The bomb dropped two days ago on the 16th when an angry now ex-boyfriend (Eron Gjoni) created a Wordpress blog documenting how she whilst in a relationship with him she fucked at least 5 Kotaku writers, 3 of which have been identified, in exchange for positive press and good reviews
Since then -
4chan is banning Zoe Quinn threads on sight.
Steam is banning any negative review of her game.
She is submitting illegitimate DMCA claims against negative video of her on Youtube at lighting speed, Cathy style.
(Horrible)nudes have been found and released.
Her ex-boyfriends full report can be read here:http://thezoepost.wordpress.com
Whats the name of the game.
Also she doesn't have much going for her.
Whats with these special snowflakes thinking they're hot shit just cause they got something green lit on steam.
Fuck sake, who writes up an exposé like this? "Acts" and trigger warnings and constant metaphors.
Padding out every second sentence with metaphors does not help to get a full picture and instead just dilutes the proof.
Guy comes off as an tryhard douche. No wonder he fell for her schtick.
In his convos with her he writes a lot like my ex who is a bit of a tryhard in his own right.
But it might just be a method of coping. This is a huge bomb to drop on someone, coming at this in an angle as ~acts~ and through metaphor makes the situation seem less real and therefore dilutes his pain. But I dunno.
But who in their right mind finds out shit like this, but still goes to such lengths to "make it work"?? Having your S.O. lie to you for MONTHS and expect them to do better after a few days? When you know they're the kind of person who's always looking our for themselves and their image? Dude's a weenie.
I see the same, and even some juicy links in the reviews.
Summary of her initial Steam Greenlight drama: http://imgur.com/a/4VOcx
A fourth drama event I hadn't heard of: https://i.imgur.com/NYEgyLe.png
This chick has so many red flags but until now seems to have managed to protect herself by getting the games media on her side through claiming to be an oppressed woman in the games industry.
He comes off as an artsy douche. He seems pretty naive so I wonder how old he is? Zoe's 27 or something but he seems like he'd be maybe 20?
But he's not really an important part of the story. The reason this story has got legs is because it's a missing puzzle piece that connects so many strands in the gaming community.
1) The incestuous relationship between game journalists and indie developers.
2) The arrogance of indie developers, as if some media attention makes them rock stars.
3) SJWs imposing themselves on gamers by stirring up shit and controlling the media narrative.
The mainstream gaming press is pretty much fully on the SJW bandwagon and constantly insults their customers (gamers) while praising crap from nobodies like Zoe. To see so many strands blow up at once from a single exposé is pretty entertaining.
I don't follow the gaming industry at all, and it seems pretty clear to even a caveman like me that gaming media is sucking the cocks of people who's egos are too big for their accomplishments.
Honestly it seems that way for a lot of "geeky" industries and communities.
I'm primarily a backend web developer for the last ten years and most of my long term online friends have been in the games industry for the same amount of time. Every media story about the tech industry is so predictable from our perspective.
Honestly I don't even know where to start. I could write thousands of words about it.
1) Pretty much anything open source is fuelled by ego and prestige (instead of money). This means that even a simple bug report can lead to an hour of arguing because how dare some random guy point out your mistake.
2) "Trendy" tech companies like GitHub or Valve that don't really have a strict corporate structure basically descend into high school cliques once they have too many employees for the founders to directly police.
3) Everyone is obsessed with getting more women involved and has been for the last 20+ years. So every single convention has to have some kind of women's panel even though there just isn't that many women interested at the base hobbyist level (e.g. compare accounts belonging to men vs women on GitHub/etc). This means that the slots get filled by incompetents and SJWs and the whole thing is a drama bomb waiting to happen.
Can you think of any recent tech scandal that doesn't fit one of those three? Even all the cries of "misogyny" are actually one of the above at their root.
Generally speaking, the more corporate something is the easier it is to deal with. But so many people try their hardest to not become corporate even if it means they end up high school.
and this http://www.cbsnews.com/news/techie-adria-richards-fired-after-tweeting-about-mens-comments/
>"There is something about crushing a little kid's dream that gets me really angry," Richards wrote. "Women in technology need consistent messaging from birth through retirement they are welcome, competent and valued in the industry."
just because they're woman, right?
InternetAristocrat posted a video talking about the incident.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5-51PfwI3M
Also interesting how everything surrounding her and the incident is getting deleted on sight.
Even in one of the 4chan threads, someone posted a pastebin that has a summary to what happened and somehow the pastebin got removed too.
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THERE HAS BEEN A FALSE FLAG. http://ohdeargodbees.tumblr.com/post/95175074424/i-will-not-negotiate-with-terrorists
the shit is spaced out, like she does, and /v/ is capitalized! there was also a (now deleted) tweet that said [pic related].
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Why does the fact that Reddit is involved not surprise me.
Having just experienced a girl going out with someone else after agreeing to be exclusive, I can say that it is in a way the guys fault, but…
The thing here is that there's an asymmetry. A guy can't easily find another girl. A girl can easily find another guy.
What if he'd have said no? She'd likely have left him.
Insecurity leading to abuse ho!
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my badge, my honor.
How do ye fare fellow banned ones?
I tried going to masterchan but its not responding? is moot perhaps the one ddosing it now?
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Dobson is joining the shitfest
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I don't understand how she got so many guys to sleep with her. She's got PT-tier butterface, jesus christ. Did they just put a bag over her head or something? I thought maybe they were just desperate nerds sleeping with her, but then I learned that she even fucked a married guy.
Are guys standards this low now?
Damn, that's the first picture ive seen of her that isn't just her face…
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Yeah, she seems to try really hard to only post blurry phone/webcam pics for good reason. Her stumpy hands are creeping me out, too.
>>7954>Are guys standards this low now?
for ronery betas, yes.
A self-respecting man wouldn't touch that with a 10ft pole
I don't think there's any point in attacking anything. The censorship is acting like a lid on a boiling pot. The only things I think that would help is keeping people talking about it and a shorter video that quickly summarises everything with proof.>>7954
I seem to remember that in one of the chat logs she's talking to her ex about the game scene in Toronto or Vancouver or wherever. She doesn't explicitly say it but it reads like she slept her way up that community too.
We will never be able to prove if she false flagged herself but it does seem like it.
>drama occurs for 3 days with no hacking>Zoe finally posts her response on her Tumblr>she doesn't actually deny anything, just says the controversy is due to misogyny and that private matters are no-ones business>she doesn't get any support on Tumblr (>>7935)>an hour or so later her Tumblr and Twitter are simultaneously "hacked">hacking these big services is very unlikely so she would have to have been phished, except her email doesn't seem to have been compromised>doxes herself with seemingly fake addresses and phone numbers>regains control of her Tumblr and Twitter like 2 mins later, even though big e-celebs often have to wait a day or more to regain access when they're hacked>says she's receiving hate calls to the numbers and conveniently has recording equipment already setup>says her dad is receiving hate calls even though his number goes to some motorcycle repair shop in Hawaii (maybe her dad actually does live in Hawaii?)
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That's the weird thing. Apparently these are the guys (that we know of at least) that slept with her. The guy on the left was the married one who was also her boss. As far as nerds/hipsters go they're not bad looking at all.
Guy on right is her boss.
Guy on left did the sound/music for Fez, which is Phil Fish's game. Phil Fish is self destructing on Twitter trying to defend Zoe. https://twitter.com/PHIL_FISH
Phil Fish is infamous for being a massive dick but it's weird that he's so invested in this. It's certainly fanning rumours that he fucked Zoe too.
imho looks don't have much to do with wether someone is an easy lay (be it male or female) or not. Some people think easy sex is good sex anyways, no matter the face and consequences attached to it (better get some that none at all mindset
As for the married guy, hope his wife divorce him and take everything away from him. He deserve it for fucking a trashy ugly snobby whore.
First link is her really retarded rant, second link is what she promptly changed it to.
For posterity's sake:
I will not negotiate with terrorists.
This has nothing to do with games and is not a matter of legitimate public interest, but is simply a personal matter. I would hope and request that the games press be respectful of what IS a personal matter, and not news, and not about games. This is explicitly about my private life, which has been regrettably forced into the public and framed by people who pose a threat to my safety and well being as well as that of the people I love. I would hope that the effort people have gone through to dress it up as anything more would not be enough to have those who see it for what it is take the bait.
I am not going to link to, or address anything having to do with the validity of the specific claims made by an angry ex-boyfriend with an axe to grind and a desire to use 4chan as his own personal army. This is not a “she-said” to his “he-said”. The idea that I am required to debunk a manifesto of my sexual past written by an openly malicious ex-boyfriend in order to continue participating in this industry is horrifying, and I won’t do it. It’s a personal matter that never should have been made public, and I don’t want to delve into personal shit, mine or anyone else’s, while saying that people’s love and sex lives are no one’s business. I’m not going to talk about it. I will never talk about it. It is not your goddamned business.
What I am
going to say is that the proliferation of nude pictures of me, death threats, vandalization, doxxing of my trans friends for having the audacity to converse with me publicly, harassment of friends and family and my friends’ family in addition to TOTALLY UNRELATED PEOPLE, sending my home address around, rape threats, memes about me being a whore, pressures to kill myself, slurs of every variety, fucking debates over what my genitals smell like, vultures trying to make money off of youtube videos about it, all of these things are inexcusable and will continue to happen to women until this culture changes. I’m certainly not the first. I wish I could be the last.
Because I’ve had a small degree of success in a specific subculture, every aspect of my life is suddenly a matter of public concern. Suddenly it’s acceptable to share pictures of my breasts on social media to threaten and punish me. Suddenly I don’t have any right to privacy or basic dignity. Suddenly I don’t get to live out normal parts of life, like going through a bad and ugly breakup in private. I have forfeited this by being a blip in a small community, while those who delight in assailing me hide behind their keyboards and a culture that permits it, beyond reproach.
My life and my body are not public property. No one’s life and body are public property.
Sexuality is one of the most personal, hurtful, and easy things to demonize a woman over, and also has nothing to do with my games. Yet large swaths of the gaming community are either unable or unwilling to separate the two. I’m convinced that my ex chose 4chan as the staging ground for his campaign of harassment and character assassination because he knew this; he knew that someone claiming to be “from the Internet” has shown up at my house once already, and he is counting on the most reviled hubs of our community to live up to their sordid reputations. This is another example of gendered violence, whereby my personal life becomes a means to punish my professional credentials and to try to shame me into giving up my work. I’m still committed to doing my small part to create a world where no woman is at risk of experiencing this. That said, I am thankful that even boards with a reputation for being the most hostile places online have been able to tell the intent behind these threads and banned them outright, seeing the hate speech for what it is, and not-news for what it is.
As much as those leading the charge against me will do mental backflips to make posting pictures of my tits about “ethics”, the real agenda is plain as day if you give it even a moment of sincere critical thought. No one who would terrorize someone and the totally uninvolved people they love in this way on such a massive and public scale could ever honestly claim to be interested in “ethics” of any kind. These kinds of accusations have been levied against any woman of status in any industry, ever. I have been judged because, if you are a woman, you are expected to constantly “prove” yourself, and even mere accusations can somehow undo all the good you’ve done and justify any measure of depraved brutality against you. Meanwhile, I see major support thrown the way of my male colleagues when they are accused of any sort of wrongdoing. Neither of these attitudes is correct, and they are patently unfair and reductive. Nobody exists in a vacuum, and anyone can change and grow into a better person. Heroes and villains don’t exist - just regular boring-ass people with scars and fuckups and moments of brilliance. And every single boring-ass person deserves the space to keep personal matters private and handled outside the shark tank of anonymous internet boards.
Once again, I will not be addressing the specific validity of any statements about my private life. If you have good-faith questions or doubts, I am more than happy to discuss private matters in private, where they belong. But I refuse to be coerced into making my private life or anyone’s private life a matter of public record, and I refuse to be continually emotionally terrorized by people who have long decided to hate me regardless.
I’m looking forward to moving on and getting back to work. To anyone else who has had to deal with this kind of indignity on any scale, you have my undying support and my ear if you ever want to talk to someone who might understand. To the people who support my work and can see this crusade for what it is, thank you from the bottom of my heart. To those people, I love you, I always have, and I always will.
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There's a second reason that her "private life" matters.
She's a poster girl for feminism in the gaming industry and uses that position to attack others. So the quality of her character matters just like it does for any type of leader.
"White" is a social construct, not a biological one.
But besides that, how about you both stop trying to derail the thread.
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"white is a social construct"
I miss /pol/ already
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And here is her typical white knight
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Why are they completely missing the point?
The bad thing isn't her being a whore. The bad thing is she whored her way into getting her game popular, which is the exact opposite way feminism says women should conduct themselves. Feminism says women are supposed to be "equal" in the sense where they can accomplish what men can, without stooping to things like making themselves sexual objects. Feminism looks down on the stereotype that successful women fuck their way to the top.
And here's Zoe. Not only fucking to get her game popular, but continually promoting the "women are victims therefore everyone needs to protect them!!!" attitude, and putting blame on the nerds at wizardchan who didn't do anything but be nerds. She's a lying, manipulative cunt who shouldn't be a representative of a positive role model of women in gaming.
And her "game" is shit, too. Even for what it is it's still poorly written and does a horrible job portraying clinical depression.
>>8019>The bad thing is she whored her way into getting her game popular
an that's what people in >>7977
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Ugh, apparently she did work for a bunch of nude shoots for burlesque sites. /pol/ posted a bunch of pictures from her photoshoots.
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She must have gained weight recently. She's not overweight in any of these. Her face is still really unfortunate, though.
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I don't know if I'm supposed to spoiler all these, but I'll just keep doing so.
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Seriously what face is she trying to make here? Is she trying to do ducklips?
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God the contrast and brightness in this set is making my eyes hurt.
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This is the only one that isn't mediocre or bad so far.
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Shit, I meant to post this one, not that one.
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Seriously, the brightness/contrast isn't helping. She looks barrel-chested, but I can't tell if she really is or if it's just too washed out.
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I forgot this one from this set.
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I guess once she started getting fatter she couldn't make rent being a camwhore, so she moved onto being a regular one instead.>>8037>>8038>Insulting people because of their sexuality is bad!>So fuck you, you disgusting virgins!>That's not meant as an insult though~
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and someone on /pol/ just posted this shoop.
Please do. She's downright repulsive in some of these. We're talking about up/inward travel of scrotal contents by at least a few inches.>>8037
Yeah. And part of me feels like she hasn't actually suffered depression. But I'll try the game and then speak more.>>8038>starts drama by cheating on boyfriend>frames wizards for something that didn't happen>MUH EMPATHY
what a cunt
Someone just posted a big ol' imgur full of these. http://imgur.com/a/6ZAM1
How someone could do a bunch of awkward photoshoots consisting of dressing in cheap "punk" and "gawffic" clothes, pose while stripping, and put them on display, then bitch about how private her body choices are while knowing all these photos are still on display, is beyond me. It seems like such an oxymoron.
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Oh, well this one isn't so bad, I…>dat eyebrow piercing
Oh god, is it supposed to look swollen like that? Is it just bad lighting?
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Flood detection is killing me.
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I'll stop dumping these for now, the secondhand embarrassment is getting to me.
Well, it's free, so nobody is required to pay for it. I'd still urge people to send their cash to someone who needs it, and then just talk to people they know to learn about depression. Because this game won't give you a great insight.
It does a fairly good job at being dull and depressing, but it's clearly partly unintended. The writers have things to learn from visual novel creators. Yep, it's that bad.
The game depicts the main character as a guy in his twenties. He has a job, a satisfying social life, a mother who's a bit of a cunt but otherwise a good connection with his core and extended family, and quite importantly a devoted, stable girlfriend.
Why would he be depressed you ask? Good fucking question. His job is a little tedious. He's insecure. His mom is a bit of a cunt. But this usually doesn't add up to depression.
The MC experiences sleep problems as a result of his depression, but he pulls out fairly easily, even going to work tired after fucking up for two days in a row. In reality it's very difficult to pull out of (and impossible to do quickly). Sleep problems feeds a negative spiral. Managing sleep is a VERY important part of managing depression.
It's silly how the MC is so reluctant to seek therapy. Even though the expositional cop-out of having status bars tell you how utterly and deeply depressed you are, you still don't seem to be desperate enough to do ANYTHING that could stop you from being so goddamn depressed, like I did. I get that there's a bit of a stigma and reluctance, but most people reach a point where things get fucking grueling, and they either seek help or try to kill themselves.
So, in my playthrough I decided to get pills, and stay on them. The alternate universe this game describes is a utopia, where antidepressants, quote, "side effects […] are negligible". Bullfuck. It's common that you take two or three kinds of antidepressants before you MAYBE find a kind that works. They ignore the opportunity to show two common side effects, namely anorgasmia and varying degrees of impotence, in a scene where the girlfriend very lovingly sets up sexytimes, but the main character is forced to turn her down because of muh feelings.
The game also fails to show that it's common to get out just a little, then relapse, then seem fine, then relapse. And that it goes on for years. No, the MC just gets better.
All in all, it's not an atrocious "game", but it's hardly something you should pay for. I'd be hard pressed call it good. But it's something. Maybe it'll increase awareness a tiny bit. Though profiteering off of depression is less than noble. I understand games take money to make, but a more appropriate way of funding would have been to have a kickstarter to cover the basics for the team, which wouldn't be much. Or maybe do it as charity?
And amusingly, the game didn't make me want to kill myself, despite its initial warnings. I'm actually a little pissed with how it misrepresents treating depression, which is a lot better than feeling depressed.
Hope this wall of text is of some worth or use.
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There are elements of real depression, but there is no real trigger for the depression and it develops unlike real depression. It's not a pure tumblr depression though, I picture those being closer to CWC crashing into slumber. You can feel depressed, but that doesn't make you depressed.
And it seems like the ploy of releasing this as free because or Robin Williams suicide is a little misguided. Sure, celebrities commit suicide and it causes more suicides, but that's not the main theme of this game. He was supposedly diagnosed with a neurodegenerative disorder of some sort. It's the kind of thing that Dignitas would help you die for. It's still possible that his depression played part in it, but it's very much arguable that he was of sound enough mind to decide that suicide was reasonable.>>8074
Part of me wants to think "oh, nobody involved knew anyone was involved with anyone else", but that's probably not the case.>>8075
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just shut up already
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about ruining that charity game dev project
I hate this woman so fucking much. I'm a noobie web developer and my bf is a programmer, so we're actively involved in the "tech community" and this fucking woman always causes so much drama and annoying shit. Says the most ridiculous stuff.
The worst part is that my good friend who is a technologist follows her and sometimes retweets her. This same friend also retweeted something by Zoe Quinn earlier today. It's actually pretty upsetting because this girl was my best friend but she's gotten so into social justice that it's just hard to even talk to her now.
Why don't they understand, it's not about the sex. It's about using a form of bribery to achieve success illegitimately. Zoe basically did the business equivalent of "sleeping with the prof to get an A".
Imagine, you and the other girls in class have been struggling in a weed-out course and the hardass prof only hands out a finite number of A's, you're busting your asses, pulling allnighters, and scrape up some B's and B+'s. Then you find out some bimbo who never went to class got an A, and is bragging about it to everyone, dropping not-so-subtle hints on how she got it.
This is the same shit. There are other female developers out there, who don't sleep around to get noticed, who work with good teams and make actual games instead of a mediocre wall of text, who should be getting praise and greenlighted on steam. Instead she took the spotlight when another more deserving indie developer could have taken it, and sings her own praises about how successful she's become and what a strong female role model in the videogame industry she is. It's a slap in the face to hardworking developers with integrity.
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ARCHIVE OF EVERYTHING I COULD FIND PRE MOD BAN WAVE AND MASS INTERNET CENSORSHIP.
HTML archives of;
—Her Tumblr, Before and After pruning and false flag.
—Websites and articles she got taken down.
Screen grabs of;
—Reddit and 4chan mod abuse
—Deleted Comments, tweets, websites, /v/ posts.
—SJW tweets and general tweets related to these events
—Evidence disproving the hacking and harassment
Feel free to debloat the archive and re-upload and distribute. Just keep this information alive, get it out there!
CREDITS GO TO ALL ANONS WHO ARE FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT, THANK YOU BASED ANONS.
[[ I'm currently perma banned from all boards, please assist to spread this info around. ]]
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Everytime I read the term 'wall of text' can't help but imagining those longass motivational powerpoints with ugly backgrounds,animated transitions and WordArt
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I'm glad to see there are anons like you fighting the good fight.
I will do my part.
There may be some useful material in this posthttp://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/zoe-quinn-saga-reddit-4chan-ect-being-censored-by--31506935/
Sadly I just don't have the time any more to sort through this kind of stuff.
So not only her "game" is a shitty browser based novel, it's not even good in portraying depression.
Of course, search all over Kotaku and you will find only praises.
well, why didnt you sleep with the professor? if sleeping was a succesful method to make an A, then why not? its not like modern tests actually test your knowledge or anything useful, just that you memorised the necessary answers.
if sleeping with bosses could succesfully create a product, in this case, a game, which it did, why is it wrong?
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The Plot Thickens
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I don't remember seeing this here, I snagged it from a /v/ thread before it 404-ed.
It shows the response from the charity that she bombed.
>Think it was just some shitty event
>These people actually thought it through and are informed
That's actually rather sad seeing as they'll get the hate for being reasonable and she'll get praised because VAGINA and because MUH FEELINGS.
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My theory on the censorship "conspiracy".
I bet a bunch of these sites got together after the last "misogynistic attack" that made media waves and decided that something needed to be done to protect women. They all agreed on some kind of loose rules but didn't expect something to blow up on so many sites at once and reveal a common thread.
Or, it's all Gawkers fault (see pic). Not really much proof for this though.
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Yeah, some anon on /v/ claimed this yesterday.
There is no evidence if he is telling the truth but it could be one of the possibilities.
I think this guy is full of shit
I mean…"they wanted blood".
The Fine Young Capitalists thing sounds like case of #3 I mentioned in >>7859
The whole tech/gaming community is very "beta" and obsessed with getting more women involved. They try to create opportunities for women but since there just isn't many women interested at the grass root hobbyist level (except for art), the vacuum gets filled by SJWs and drama queens and opportunists and so on.
There's even programming textbooks where every metaphor or real life example is written with feminine pronouns. Because fuck 99% of your readers, got to please the 1% of women. I've seen this in computing textbooks going as far back to the early 90s but never seen it in any science or maths textbook.
They'd be better off not pandering to women and just let them climb up the ladder like everyone else. But the industry is like an "omega" who would rather take the abuse.
Also I think the TFYC is kind of a bad idea from the get go. The reason mods (game mods, not moderators) suck these days is because everyone wants to be a "designer" and not actually do the hard work of making something.
So many people come into our IRC channel saying they have an idea and need an artist, and a programmer, and a mapper, etc. "Back in my day", we'd make sure we had something people could play before asking for help.
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I am female and I like video games but because of shit like this I will never ever call myself a "girl gamer".
These bitches wear it like badge of honor, also using it to spread their shitty SJW agenda.
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Phil Fish attacked some guy on Tumblr who said that Zoe sexually harassed him.
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TotalBiscuit wrote a Twit Longer acknowledging the scandal but also staying out of it because he said there isn't enough proof for him to do a video about it. http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1s4nmr1
But apparently not supporting Zoe 100% isn't good enough which lead to SJWs attacking him, including Phil Fish.
this dosent actually deny anything, it just actually gives evidence she was there and it might of happened.
really, attacking him like so, it seems like hes implying it was deserved, if it happened
To get pedantic, "white" is actually just something on the on the census and has different definitions in different countries.
Caucasian is the actual race and covers groups as far as northern Africa and western India.
I don't know if >>7995
was being pedantic or buys into that "race is a social construct with no genetic basis" bullshit which is clearly false.
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Her ex confirming that Zoe spends a lot of time "making connections"
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With a screencap from their conversation
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Her whiteknights are pathetic
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just to see if I have this straight.
the fucking drama hurricane that follows this noname notalent dev all started when anonymous 'troll' posts to wizardchan trying to rally up personal army to… uh, link her to the thread, because OP clearly wasn't capable of doing that themself. furthermore this dastardly devil
A) knew where to find pics of the noname dev,
B) instead of posting a fullbody pic to show off what brings all the indie devs and bloggers to the yard, uses a cropped face shot that leaves much to the imagination, AND
C) the pic this 'troll' chooses to upload just happens to have the filename my_picture.jpg.
As far as I know that was the original cause of the drama with Steam Greenlight and Wizardchan a few months ago.
She kicked up a fake shitstorm about being harassed and all the gaming press jumped on board with another "misogynist male gamers" story even though there was no evidence.
Now the same gaming press won't report any of this current drama because they want more evidence.
To be fair, if you aim to run a respectable journalism site there probably isn't enough concrete evidence and TotalBiscuit is taking the right path. But TB also applies the same evidence requirements to SJWs unlike Kotaku etc.
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Some legitimacy to the story shows up.
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Honestly, this is par the course.
I'm an old school goon and my SA forum account dates from 2001 (and I think I had two older accounts before that). SA used to be an edgy trouble maker like 4chan but turned to shit around 2004 or so.
Every website seems to move to the left and become more heavily moderated the more popular it becomes. 4chan took a big turn for the worse after the Project Chanology media coverage brought in tons of newfags back in 2008 or whenever.
I'm not worried about the end of 4chan, but I am worried that we are long overdue for a replacement.
P.S. It always makes me laugh when people like TotalBiscuit claim to be old school goons when their accounts are from 2005 or so. If your account is older than 2004 you won't even be invited to the hidden goon piracy sites.
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Journalist paying her on Patreon,
Conflict of interest.
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More shitty Journalists enter the fray.
How are they this incompetent.
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tips respectfully towards her
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And to think that TB was trying to stay out of it until SJWs attacked him for not 100% supporting Zoe.
Let's give a round of applause for Phil Fish and all of Zoe's white knights.
TB is going to town on Twitter. It's pretty obvious that everyone attacking him are just repeating SJW stuff and didn't read his post.
This Twit Longer is what the white knights claim is evidence that TB is a misogynistic thug: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1s4nmr1
Maybe he will now also be sympathetic to Wizardchan and others who have suffered the same type of character assassination.
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Did anyone notice this?
(His twitter is deleted btw)
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ROUND 2 - TODAY'S ARCHIVE
[CANT STOP THE BUSS] Unorganized Mess Edition
I GOT A FRESH ROUND FOR YOU BOYS!
— "Zoe Quinn Dating Simulator" the Game the Movie source files.
— TFYC Confession.mp3
— New Link Dump.
— RPS/Escapist Journalists getting BTFO.
— More counter argument caps to spread awareness and to combat SJW shitposters.
— Hilarious OC, including Tumblr's new comic.
— New developments in the SJW web wide conspiracy and censorship.
>Possible upcoming breakthroughs.
— Multiple Journalists backing Zoe Quinn's Patreon, Conflicts of interest.
— "Robin Arnott" one of the 5 guys was an IndieCade judge who awarded her game.
— Total Biscuit entered the fray! Blowing everyone out. Possible video incoming.
SPREAD AND BACKUP THIS INFORMATION ASAP, KEEP IT ALIVE, BE RUTHLESS, BE LOUD!
KEEP FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT BASED ANONS!
BEST OF LUCK TODAY.
I think she is just incredibly easy to fuck.
Some guys like that a lot.
Especially if she does all the kinky stuff they want at the first "date" without wanting to be loved afterwards.
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So comments are now on moderation.
I never realised what a pussy David was.
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Reminder to let people know about this place, so they can store Information here.
Don't invite masses of chanfags here. The reason this is actually one of the best threads on the internet about Zoe is because it's not getting spammed to hell.
Also, good use of SJ terminology in that image.
The more I read about this, the more of a shitty person this Zoe chick turns out to be, and that extends to the entire indie game developing scene, too.
Is it all just really horrible, ~so edgy, so alt~ white chicks in their 20s and their gross "hipster" orbiters? Because it seems that way. >"This person sexually assaulted me when I went to this place">"Fuck off you little shit no one wanted you there"
I mean jesus fucking christ
I have not been here for long, and I agree. Censorship of major outlets means it'll spread further- a bit like squishing down on a big cream pastry to try and make the cream go away. It'll just spread over a bigger area. Probably reach people it wouldn't have otherwise.
This place is small for a reason. Let it fill its purpose.
But by all means, spread info.
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Some former vidya journo turned PR scum was hired by Zoey to spam and infest every discussion about her in reddit, with often copypasted and blatantly idiotic arguments.
He namedropped in another reddit by mystake, and proceeded to delete everything to cover up. Too bad google cache saved everything, albeit momentarily so.http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:QgVShS2P3pgJ:www.reddit.com/user/Kh0rn3Flakes+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=firefox-a
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There's this piece of how Phil Fish basically threatened a (recently)former friend to back down when he came up and mentioned being sexually harrased by the quinn at wedding.
Turns out it was Phil Fish's wedding.
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Second image. No wonder he had the mother of al twitter meltdowns.
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doing god's work based anon
don't invite any fags here (keep a good thing good), just copypaste the info and spread the links like fuckin santa claus
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can someone repost this to 4chan. i got banned for making a zoe thread a couple of days ago when it was a bannable offense
i liked giantbomb :(
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Game Jam Theory, with substantial evidence.
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Double standards in action.
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We're doing something right.
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>$2,135 per month
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So, is it over?
doesn't exactly reek of genuine sincerity, does it?
notable moment to be sure though
She deleted it soon after, so who knows.
Zoe isn't exactly a person you'd turn to for genuine sincerity though.
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They're now trying to push this whole "Doctored Images" angle, By false flagging with fake crap.
If this was really an ironic image by a /v/ user it would have had "Delete".
Don't perpetuate this nonsense.
why go the extra mile?
rather than refraining from putting forth additional effort to add a "delete" button
anon's point is that we need to keep the signal in the signal to noise ratio as high as possible
That comic is great.
And thank you Jon for not being a SJW cocksucker like Arin
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If you're curious about the artist, her tumblr is here. http://plebcomics.tumblr.com/
0 Okay, so I wanted to add some points that go alongside the corruption, but not into it. Sorry if I repeat anything; hopefully if I do I'll at least add to the discussion. (It's long so adding numbers to sections to make it easier to refer to.)
1 Zoe had repeatedly said cheating was rape. Now, the actual logistics are kind of odd, but the idea is that your partner can't fully know what they're consenting to if they're being cheated on, which is the informed consent source of statutory rape charges; they're consenting, but they don't fully understand what they're consenting to. Most people would at most consider this a technicality, but she was dead serious about this, as far as I can tell. What this says is she was either willing to do something she considered as rape if it felt good to her or was lying and posturing to gain fame or attack other alleged cheaters. Either way, it shows she's willing to make exceptions for herself.
2 Zoe is claiming her nudes are leaked. These are professional (crappy) photos that can be accessed if one pays for them. Not only was her sleeping with devs a form of monetizing her sexual actions, she quite literally is a porn model. Her sexuality is professional business and therefore open to public scrutiny. That she tried to misrepresent this speaks to her credibility; I'd guess most of us don't judge porn models for having sex until they have secret affairs.
3 If the chat logs are real, which I 100% believe they are, she's extremely abusive. She took multiple actions that either instilled or exacerbated his anxiety and depression; she gave/worsened someone the illness she said she was campaigning for awareness of. But beyond that, she guilted him for doubting her faithfulness (obviously a reasonable concern), she put him in no-win situations, she manipulated him into cutting off friends she didn't like, she'd say things that hurt and then suggest he was too sensitive (and claim his hurt feelings hurt HER feelings), she'd make her hurt feelings the most important thing, she'd conveniently have a panic attack whenever he pointed out an inconsistency in her stories (and near the end said she might hurt herself), she'd shun him when mad at him (or cheating), and that's not even getting into what some sites claim is emotional abuse when a woman is the victim. Without a doubt she was gaslighting, a vile pattern that social justice extremists have turned into a buzzword but don't really understand.
4 She likely falsified claims of harassment. It has always been unverifiable at best, completely transparent excuses at worst. She's even gone so far as to claim real life actions without proof, without police involvement, even once claiming someone robbed her (but conveniently forgot to take the smartphone she then used to cry for donations on). What she's doing has been dubbed Damselling, but has also been dubbed a Wounded Gazelle Gambit. In clearer terms, she is exploiting the gendered expectations that women must be protected and men must protect in order to shield herself from harm, in effect using the exact patriarchy and sexism she rallies against.
5 She's trying to make this about misogyny. It certainly isn't, as a gaming industry man with a gf/wife who does as little as sext with a woman risks his career. Remember how two men got fired over the Dongle Incident? She had unprotected sex with multiple people in situations where it was impossible to get tested every time. (Her boyfriend claimed that, as of the time of his writing, she never did send him any STD results.) The outrage that would follow a male dev for exposing multiple women to STDs, and INSISTING on condomless sex, would be enormous. The only sexism here is how they're all gathering to protect her like ants around their queen instead of throwing her to the wolves.
6 She's claimed in the past that she grew up in some redneck town where she had to pretend to be "not queer" in order to survive. She cites Gone Home as her reason for coming out and her memories about some girl she loved back in her teenage years. I don't believe her for a second that she's "queer". But while she's obviously not a lesbian she could potentially be bi, so we can't just say she lied about it until something else comes out. (More than likely she's using tumblr's mentality where you can be queer despite being cis and straight because sometimes you think girls are pretty. Or that you're trans because you aren't a feminine woman.)
7 She has never, truly, taken responsibility for her actions. First she blamed the loneliness that came with depression. Then alcohol. Then she blamed her mother's and ex-husband's alleged abuse. In order to get press, she blamed wizardchan. Now, she blamed her exboyfriend's lies, she blamed gamers, she blamed /v/, and has now started blaming MRAs (who, for the most part, don't care or even know unless they're gamers). Even in confessing the flings with her then boyfriend, he had to ask each time and she only admitted to as few as she could get away with.
8 She has funding for some sort of game jam directing right into her paypal account. While she's unprofessional and shortsighted enough to possibly explain this as a bad decision, those same features also give a good chance she's committing real fraud with this campaign that has no start date, no visible plans, no transparency, just in a really stupid manner.
9 We don't even need to suspect that she's slept with other site staff or that Gawker is putting censor pressure on these sites. She's famous for making a game about depression. She's publically said or implied it's based on her own depression. It's only a matter of time until she cries suicide attempt (with no evidence) and these sites don't want to be blamed yet again.
10 Her game wasn't an accurate description of depression. I've been depressed since I was at least 10, properly diagnosed at around 18, and am into my mid 20s now. The majority of the crossed out sections were the choices I would've picked even at my worst. I have five estimates on what her depressive perspective is:
A) She's had one or several depressive episode(s), but not a long bout of depression. The story doesn't seem to last more than half a year and has a happy ending, despite her epilogue claiming it's open ended. Unless the depression has an discernible cause (like an abusive relationship or a terrible job), it's usually lifelong.
B) She was describing parts of her personal story and writing (fan)fiction about how she would've been cured if only she'd been allowed that cat/taken that appointment/told off her mom/etc. Needless to say, this is silly if the case. One decision isn't going to alleviate your bad month. I suppose part of this was her goal of framing it as a game with status bars… but she could have just made the product in a different format and thrown that out.
C) She was writing a story solely for herself, ignoring that depression is extremely complex to the point where some doctors have started classifying depression as a category rather than an illness and that it's often found with other disorders/illnesses. If this is the case then advertising it as a story of depression is dishonest; you're not going to raise awareness about depression by suggesting there's an average depression path that neatly works out in the end.
D) She doesn't have depression and is working off of what friends/family/tv have told her. This would account for how it doesn't mention the difficulties with cleaning or dressing oneself and the vague ideas of not wanting sex being based on busied thoughts. The motivation for a lot of the other behaviors seem off too.
E) She has Something Else that she doesn't know or admit to having that coloured her interpretations of the illness. This theory is most fascinating to me, but (imo) this isn't really the time for armchair psychology.
I've heard more than one review blasting the story for being a prettified version of depression, just like >>8064
mentioned, where medication is perfect and therapy cures everything. In reality, therapy can make it worse if you have an (undiagnosed) underlying mental condition and the majority of anti-depressants have some kind of side effect*. Also, getting in to see a therapist in less than a year is a joke unless you're rather well off financially in a privatized healthcare system. The whole thing is sanitized: no mentions of suicidal thoughts or actions, no self-inflicted injuries, no self-destruction behaviors, no binge eating or starving or purging, no outbursts, no forgetting/putting off bills and finances, no crying fits… Everyone was supportive even if they didn't understand and there was no real tension between the player and the girlfriend; in that situation, break ups and divorces are common. And as the above quoted anon pointed out, they ignored that most people slip in and out of depression and/or have episodes their whole lives.
(It also bugged me a lot that they made the player character gender neutral and gave the "partner" a gender neutral name… but then made her distinctly female. If you're going to squawk when a game isn't 100% LGBT friendly you should start with your own products.)
*I know how shitty the side effects can be first hand. I'm still losing weight from taking Paxil more than two years ago, which was 40 pounds in about eight months (because of the weight gain I wouldn't go outside and sobbed whenever I had to get dressed); I started at about 110 pounds (5'2", F). It also dulled me and took away my ability to feel joy. Wellbutrin made me so constipated I had to stop taking it. It can take a decade to find the best medication for somebody, and that doesn't always end up being a perfect fit.
11 My god is it a relief to finally be able to say how bland I think she looks. Limp hair, funny nose, generic piercings and tattoos. AWFUL fashion sense. And her sexual posing is so awkward! And her choice of shoot with paint peeling off the walls is hilarious. (My guess is she's one of those ~sexually liberated kinky~ types who secretly love being dominated by men, which would explain why these power hungry social justice guys go right for her; they can act out their brutal fantasies without having a feminist breathing down their neck about patriarchal-masculinity-BDSM-is-basically-rape bullshit.)
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Anita doing a battle cry.
Go betas, go!
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So, the Betamancer has begun it's summoning…
>IT'S TIME>THE FIRE RISES
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She's either the biggest idiot or the worst liar.
>2014>not having different passwords and isolating your accounts on different services
AM I FUCKING BANNED OR WHAT, MY "REQUESTS" LOOK AUTOMATED APPARENTLY
In all the screenshots people censored out the addresses. But I saw them and all three had the same apartment number and the Canadian address was totally fake.
Also I never saw hundreds of posts on her Tumblr. Where's her proof?
She just can't stop lying. Even though this will probably blow over I'm sure she will be back for more lols within 12 months.
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It's not like your noodz were stolen from your pc archives, cellphone or something, just sayin'
To get access to her sets you can join this site: http://www.brokendollz.com/dollz/doll_join_profile.php?iddoll=73
Also reader her profile.> what do you masturbate too: THE LOVELY FEDORA> turn-offs: CLOSE MINDEDNESS, ARROGANCE. BEARDS. EXCESSIVE BODY HAIR IN GENERAL. BAD KISSERS,ATTENTION WHORES, FAKERS, TOURISTS
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The real Depression Quest
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ROUND 3 - TODAY'S ARCHIVE
[THE FIRE RISES] Burn It Down Edition
GET YOUR FRESH AMMUNITION!
— PHIL FISH DEFEATED.
— Content Dump from the day.
— HTML Backups of some new Articles/Forums
— New Link Dump.
— Continuation of RPS/Escapist Journalists getting BTFO.
— Gained more allies, revealed more foe's.
— More counter argument caps to spread awareness and to combat SJW shitposters.
— Continuation of some Hilarious OC.
— Chronicles of Ears the furfaggot and JonTron's twitter blowouts.
>Possible upcoming breakthroughs.
— Game Jam exploitation theory being confirmed.
— Reveal of the REAL 5th guy.
— JonTron's Live Stream, check threads for info.
— New Internet Aristocrat Video Friday
— Possible video from Thunderf00t.
— Total Biscuit Possible video incoming.
SPREAD AND BACKUP THIS INFORMATION ASAP, KEEP IT ALIVE, BE RUTHLESS, BE LOUD!
KEEP FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT BASED ANONS AND FELLOW ALLIES OF INTERNET FREEDOM IN GENERAL.
BEST OF LUCK TODAY. KEEP THE FIRE RISING!
>>8535>implying it's remotely okay to create conflict of interest>implying there aren't laws against doing such things in other contexts>implying anyone thinks there was a direct exchange of "Give me a 5/5 and I'll suck on your chode for 5 minutes"
Keep up the good work. What's the news on the TB video? Just a rumor, speculation, or is it based on a statement?
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>What's the news on the TB video?
Speculation mostly, Today he got absolutely reamed by vile SJW abuse, I have no doubt he won't do a video about it now. Not necessarily about Quinn, but about the types of people surrounding this event.
I'd like to do a callback to my post from 3 days ago >>7837
> 1) The incestuous relationship between game journalists and indie developers.> 2) The arrogance of indie developers, as if some media attention makes them rock stars.> 3) SJWs imposing themselves on gamers by stirring up shit and controlling the media narrative.
It's all played out so predictably hasn't it?
I actually think the lack of media coverage is progress. With Anita everyone was running articles about how misogynistic young male gamers are and it even made it to the MSM like the BBC. Not many sites are running such articles this time because they're on the back foot.
I don't think there's really anything else to be won from this specific scandal unless somebody unearths something new or presents all the evidence in a very convincing viral video or something.
Zoe and the SJWs have won a Phyrric victory and each time they try to run bullshit like this it will be less effective.
> The armies separated; and, it is said, Pyrrhus replied to one that gave him joy of his victory that one more such victory would utterly undo him. For he had lost a great part of the forces he brought with him, and almost all his particular friends and principal commanders; there were no others there to make recruits, and he found the confederates in Italy backward. On the other hand, as from a fountain continually flowing out of the city, the Roman camp was quickly and plentifully filled up with fresh men, not at all abating in courage for the loss they sustained, but even from their very anger gaining new force and resolution to go on with the war.> —Plutarch
oh why YES! on the Encyclopedia Dramatica article about this, there is a link to (what may be?) her personal information that you'll need to use Tor to access. This is what is says for the first two things:
Address: 4 Barber St, Medway, MA 02053
I didn't do the doxxing, and i don't really know how one would check this info, but it's a start. An estimate of unreported income should be easy to come up with.
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The sheer number of threads and posts about her plays a role, but the reality is that threads like these have been getting deleted for years.
4chan has been deleting "give her a call /b/" and related raid threads for a long time now, actually. They just usually have fairly slow and shitty moderation. They recently brought on a lot of new janitors though, so enforcement is becoming more swift.
Also, it can be hard to distinguish between the threads just discussing the scandal and ones that are trying to organize raids. Some people are posting her name, phone number, and other things in threads that weren't made for that purpose, which also creates even more seemingly heavy-handed moderation.
child, those gag-ass pictures are out there for free
don't say i didn't warn you though
i've seen cuter hogs with mud spilling out of their mouth
they're also probably pretty fuckin fed up with it all
no excuse, not by a long shot, but it's not like ZQ fucked everyone at reddit and 4chan
another good thing that is coming out of this investigation is that if you EVER funded, sponsored, or in any way supported zoe's work, then you are automatically in a modicum of suspicion
ruined ruined ruined
he links here though >:/
don't want no fags faggin up the place
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Evidence of someone legit doxxing and putting Zoe's twitter name next to it.
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wow, is sessler part of zoe's fuckpack?
or is this an old picture? please tell me it's an old picture
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I'M HACKING THE MAINFRAME!
TAP TIP TAP
TAP TIP TAP
TAP TIP TAP
TAP TIP TAP
TAP TIP TAP
TAP TIP TAP
OK I'M IN!
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Recent picture, unfortunately. You'd think people involved in video games would understand how computers work. They're worse than soccer moms.
This is painful. This is painful to look at.
What a world.
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i used to think sessler was worthy of respect
what happened to his rational capacity for analysis?
is there something else here? maybe zoe's pig nipples secrete raw cocaine?
maybe he's sending a message
none of this is about video games anymore
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>ANOTHER FALSE FLAG ATTACK
There is no direct proof and and it's basically a non-story because the industry is so corrupt anyway. TotalBiscuit has done videos about payola in the games industry before so it's really nothing new.
I think there's only two issues that can really be pushed with adequate proof.
1) Greg Tito the editor in chief of The Escapist admitting that he is biased and requires no evidence from SJWs. See >>8144
People really should be writing to his employer to get him fired.
2) The sheer hypocrisy of Zoe's actions vs her stated beliefs and yet she is still held up as a beacon for women in gaming.
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>>8771>Hello everyone, I am the head mod over at /V/ and leader of 4chan.org and Anonymous.
this ayy'd my lmao.>>8786
I agree, it's a little weird. Phil Fish wouldn't have the mental capacity to write that he's trying to cover up the story, even if he was lying.
If it -is- a false flag, then OH BOY.
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what does this tweet being fake mean for us?
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He's had Kaufman as his avatar for well over a year at least.
He always pulls shit like this and then says he's cancelling Fez 2 and makes all his tweets private.
He's just a massive dick but because he has the right connections and says the right SJW shit he mostly gets away with it.
People have thought for years that he may be autistic or something. Even in Indie Game: The Movie he's a twat.
Also watch him crying after watching himself Indie Game: The Movie: http://blip.tv/indiegamethemovie/phil-fish-watches-indie-game-the-movie-for-the-very-first-time-6222223
Most people would just feel awkward after watching a documentary about themselves but Phil cries over how inspirational he is.
>"that part of the end where I say if I could inspire wom–kids, If I could inspire kids"
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Wrong guy, was talking about this faggot
There's a donation button in the game? Is that within Steam's rules?
A donation button would definitely get you banned from the iOS App Store.
Remember the EA vs Steam Battlefield 3 drama because EA didn't want to pay Steam's fees on DLC?
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>How are MULTIPLE accounts being hacked SIMULTANEOUSLY but their EMAIL remains fine?
>How are these websites, Cloudflare, Dropbox, twitter etc, (who have professional security out the arse) being hacked so easily and frequently? SHOULDN'T THIS PROBLEM BE NATION NEWS?
>Why is there NO ACTUAL PERSONAL INFORMATION in Phil Fish's "DOXX 1.5g File", all relevant information like addresses, phone numbers and anything RELEVANT to personal Information is blanked out or missing.
>IF they're being DOXX why is none of this information anywhere? It WOULD be spammed all over the internet. You cant even find a PHONENUMBER.
>WHY DO THEY HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER FROM THEIR SIDE OF HACKING, HARASSMENT OR ANYTHING THEY CLAIM IS HAPPENING.
>WHY DO THEY INSTANTLY CLOSE THEIR ACCOUNTS AFTER THEY'RE "HACKED" AND RE-OPEN THEM AFTER THEY REMOVE ALL EVIDENCE OF THE EVENT?
This is 2014, people have a HIGH DEFINITION camera/video/audio recorder in their pocket, they can screenshot their computer instantly and record video.
There is no reason they cannot provide evidence, UNLESS IT DOESN'T EXIST.
HOPEFULLY THE FBI WILL BE INVOLVED IN THIS SOON, JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED.
I hope they do fucking time for this Flase Flag hacking bullshit on /v/.
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Yes, when you're "hacked" in 2014 it means one of the following:
1) Your email password was phished (you're a dumb ass).
2) You used the same password on another website (you're a dumb ass).
3) Someone guessed your security questions but this doesn't work on many sites such as Gmail (and you're still a dumb ass for using guessable answers).
So unless these hackers have found some new Heartbleed level exploit, then for these hacks to be true then Zoe and Phil's email accounts must be compromised. In which case we should have major upcoming dox dumps, except for the fact that Zoe and Phil seem to still be in control of their email accounts.
Not to mention that it takes hours or days to regain control of hacked Twitter accounts.
CloudFlare is not a host. It's a reverse proxy that sits in front of your server and absorbs the traffic.
The name servers for Polytron are set to MediaTemple so that's probably where the actual server is hosted.
All you need to do is gain access to the real MediaTemple server and make the changes there which will propagate to CloudFlare within a few seconds.
CloudFlare is absolutely irrelevant. As much as chanfags claim to be experts of the internet, 99% of them are completely tech illiterate.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_proxyhttps://www.cloudflare.com/overviewhttp://www.quora.com/CloudFlare/How-does-CloudFlare-work
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ROUND 4 - TODAY'S ARCHIVE
[PHILIPPE'O FISH] /V/ 'professional mainframe hackers Edition
Mods on full damage control again, SRS raiding /v/ and /pol/, Flase flag hacking attempts galore! Come get your fresh content!
— PHIL FISH RETURNS! AND HE'S GONE!
— 4chan raises over 5k in a day for TFYC
— SJW against 4chan raising money for feminism.
— SRS starts a chan raid over TFYC fundraising.
— Infamous "/V/" strikes again!
— Zoe and gang raid 4chan, again.
— Content Dump from the day.
— HTML Backups of some new Articles/Forums
— New Link Dumps.
— False Flag Attacks galore!
— More counter argument caps to spread awareness and to combat SJW shitposters.
— Chronicles of 1337 HAXX0RZ, COCAINE MAN and A ROTTING COD.
>Possible upcoming breakthroughs.
— /pol/ notified FBI about false flag hacking and requested investigation.
— New Internet Aristocrat Video Friday
JonTron and TotalBiscuit Both stepped down from the fight, probably dude to pressure from their jewtube networks.>Action Points enters the fray!>>8935
SPREAD AND BACKUP THIS INFORMATION ASAP, KEEP IT ALIVE, BE RUTHLESS, BE LOUD!
KEEP FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT BASED ANONS AND FELLOW ALLIES OF INTERNET FREEDOM IN GENERAL.
BEST OF LUCK TODAY. KEEP THE FIRE RISING!
my favorite part is the capital /V/
keep fighting the good fight
12" dongs all around
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zoe's guardians aka betamax collage
>This may seem harsh but the truth is these people are overwhelmingly young and very naive, angry and bitter, emotionally stunted and honestly quite dumb. These guys (it's always guys) tend to be unattractive and have poor social skills that are reflected in their horrible opinions about women and their inability to date successfully. They're bitter at people - especially women - who are having regular sex because they're not. They're mad at anyone else who happens to be happy with a significant other in their lives or who keeps a healthy circle of friends. They're likely still living at home, in debt from college and often not financially stable (they feel "poor"). It makes them upset about women's advancements in the workplace, AA policies that don't benefit them and other minorities getting ahead in any little way. They basically can't stand anyone who's enjoying life and not spending their days bitching endlessly about other people. They're alone, regarded as stupid, lead empty lives, contribute nothing to anything meaningful and they know it. You attack the flaws in "their" beloved forms of media (comics, games, movies), ban them from a messageboard, etc., and they become enraged to the point of mental breakdown and start making death threats because that's all they have in their miserable, pathetic lives.
Calling out a hypocritical slut who cheated and emotionally manipulated her boyfriend and having proof of nepotism in gaming journalism means you are Marjan now.
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While those same knights bully a 10 year old on twitter who stands his ground instead of whining about being bullied on internet.
Feminists attacking a ten year old? Threatening his life?
The pro-SJW pro-Zoe crowd is hilariously blind to the facts put in front of them. Seriously, I guarantee none of them have looked at the myriad of evidence that's been posted all over 4chan, and if they have, they quickly dismiss it as being fake or inconclusive.
It's pretty amazing how brainwashed they've become to the narrative that game journos/tumblrinas have been spouting for years, about how gamers are terrible, mysogynistic people and that we might as well worship the ground women walk on.
I myself just want to play vidya without everything getting twisted by the Anita's and Zoe's of the world twisting creative minds to their selfish agenda.
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Can someone explain to me what these fine young capitalist people are? And what this 'contest' is they are talking about? This is new information to me.
My understanding was this:
-person making game
-person has partner
-person has sex with five journalists who then give her game some good reviews
-when partner finds out they were cheated on they tell the Internet and the internet explodes
-person pretends they are the victim
-person fakes being hacked and more hilarious stuff
-some of the people the person cheated on with tells gamers he wishes he could burn them to death in a building or something?
That's what I understand so far from reading this thread. What holes are there in my understanding?
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Is that and the thing where she had sex for reviews connected? Or did she just do one bad thing and then the cheating came out afterwards by coincidence?
The guys she doxed tried reaching out to gaming media, and they all took zoe's side on it.
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Phil Fish is currently trending on Twitter.
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so someone must have grabbed a backup drive then on site.
she also had her team of sjw cunts bullying and threatening wizardchan after she lied about them hacking and doxing her, which is the equivalent to beating up a hikkikomori the one day in 5 years he leaves his house to bury his cat.
she's pretty much the worst type of person and her blind white knights of her crooked vagina are blind as fucking bats and don't realize they're being used too.
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Oh, a new one.
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i've seen the suggestion that it's part of a social experiment being conducted
despite there being a significant probability that the user who posted it meant it in jest, this whole thing has been givin me the creeps lately
i for one could buy it
I don't think people are surprised to discover they're hacks. They're surprised to discover they're so stupid and open about it.
Remember the journalist that was so wrapped up in the misogyny explanation that they revealed they spent money on Zoe's hotel room?
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the holy nod man
Nathan Grayson deleted his review
forum mirror is still up
grab it before it goeshttp://www.giantbomb.com/depression-quest/3030-41680/forums/tktk-1432018/#186
Since so many journalists jumped on her Patreon I assume that means that they can't report on her future projects.
They probably still will though. Dumbasses.
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[[[[ COMPILATION MEGA ARCHIVE ]]]]
[ALL OUT FUCKING WAR]
ORDO HERETICUS REQUESTS TERMINATION EDITION
This is the complete compilation for the past week. >Disregard previous archives!
Please post The download link on relevant /v/, /pol/, reddit and tumblr threads/blogs.
— Recent[Unorganized FIles]
— Compilations and Inforgraphs
— False Flag Hacking and Harassment
— Censorship Collection
— Comments and Discussion
— 4chan Screencaps
— Damage Control
— Article and Blog Screenshots
— Gender Bias and Double Standards
— TFYC Support
— Collection of Zoe's tweets
— Collection of random tweets
— [Archive] HTML Websites, some Media
— Shit vidya Journalism - 4chan Mega Collection Dump
— Link dumps and copypasta
— Original Content
NEW Video from InternetAristocrat:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKmy5OKg6lo
NEW Video from ThunderF00t: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RQIpwi-K9s
SPREAD AND BACKUP THIS INFORMATION ASAP, KEEP IT ALIVE, BE RUTHLESS, BE LOUD, INFORMATION IS OUR WEAPON!
KEEP FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT BASED ANONS AND FELLOW ALLIES OF INTERNET FREEDOM IN GENERAL.
BEST OF LUCK, KEEP THE FIRE RISING!
That thunderfoot video is bullshit.
1 hour ago (edited)
WTF. Are you click-baiting? Skip 90% (@19:30) of this video to get the the Zoe Quinn-relevant part.. the whole 30 seconds of it. This whole video you're rehashing old shit about R. Watson and Sarkaesian(sp?) which is already in other videos you made. I understand you want to hop on the Zoe-drama reporting train, but for God's sake, do it properly, man! Just referring to Aristocrat's video in the end– while having QUINNSPIRACY in the title – is pretty underhanded and lazy. Thumbs down."
it's like peeling back the band-aid and finding maggots the size of bears
what else don't we know?
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i feel u, i was started following a lot of lpers i liked listening to on twitter and when this broke out they all end up supporting zoe and rting anita. then i have acquaintances on other sites blabbing about all this sj bullshit. i just want to play video game
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this Twitter exchange with Ben Kuchera two years ago strikes me as prophetic.
oh my god
she paid em all off?
well also the sex too but damn
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if the identity is the same
IF her birthname is Chelsea…
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Personally I thought it was worth it after Phil Fish lost his shit (twice).
ALL of the best lols from this drama have come from idiots walking into the crossfire.
It's more likely that she made up "Zoe Quinn" for accessibility and to be edgy. "Chelsea Van Valkenburg" doesn't scream indie game dev, plus thezoepost mentioned she had problems with her family–so she probably wants to separate herself from them.
I mean, why does Phillipe Poisson go by "Phil Fish"? It's an edgy/"quirtky", simple name, that fits the "industry".
To me "Phillipe Poisson" sounds edgier. Phillipe Poisson = Phil Fish in French.
But Wikipedia says Phillipe Poisson is his original name. He's such a dumb ass he can't event run with his birth name.
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meh… could be, but if thats the case, why be an indie dev with a donation page thats goes to your account. Wouldn't you be paying for everyone elses shit?
Funny screen cap from /pol/ grain of salt.
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video just before it was taken down
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Indiegogo hack page before it was taken down.
Not the same video, just look at the stylization of the title>You are an idiot!!
vs>YOU ARE AN IDIOT
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i'm just going to go to bed now, and deal with this shit in the morning.
the text itself for copypasta or links
Reminder that if this image and this video are true that:>Zoe Quinn's real name Chelsea Valkenberg.>She's part of a wealthy family with a shit ton of connections.>People are beginning to find more and more evidence that Zoe Quinn doesn't even exist. >Reddit mods are in on it.>It's all part of a larger campaign PR spreading over tons of sites on the internet. >Reddit mods can read user's PM (potentially site altering).>TFYC was hacked (proof below), and since Indigogo uses Cloudflare, the hacker probably got inside assistance.>If this ever hits the mainstream press will all be labeled misogynistic cyber terrorists. >The entire thing was potentially a false flag.>We are being played like a fiddle to be made an example of.
TFYC hack statement:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1E89zbuRwRCJEyNn9Xgq0yi_GAijIOtd0_90YtywmPok/preview?pli=1&sle=true
Video pointing out here alleged connections:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMUb1TDDYQo
it's not all necessarily legit, but it's still 2legit4me.
Van Valkenburg family she is connected to isn't super rich.
Upper middle class
Father works Robotics at GE
No because Quinn got it shut down originally, there was no coverage because Quinn wasn't involved. The message wasn't getting out.
It's only through happenstance we came across the Game Jam thing while working through Zoe's past.
And if it is a giant conspiracy just to get some people money to make games that women design, well they are smarter than me.
Not that we should believe someone found to lie over and over for their own gain, but she said both her mother was abusive. Her being estranged makes sense, either because she cut them off or they cut her off.
I'm more interested in the ex-husband. If we know who he is we can find her legal name in docs and see if she has enough family power to be unique in the censorship.
I wouldn't expect /v/ to do anything more than chase red herrings and believe in /pol/ conspiracy theories.
Though, I am waiting for that anon who said they might document the different ways game "journalists" violate journalistic integrity by comparing to guidelines in a reuters handbook.
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Okay all bets are off.
Polygon now reporting this.
Ugh. This is a pretty serious issue and people are just treating it as "lol neckbeard gamers XDD"
I tried to find a non Kotaku/Polygon/Gawker article about this and came up with http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2014/08/24/american-airlines-flight-diverted-sky-harbor/14534377/
Which only reports that something happened, but does not go as far as to pin the blame on "LizardSquad" for doing it just because they said so on twitter.
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>linking to lolcow
Here we go.
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Eron still comes off as a try hard pussy. Who the fuck says "explicate" in ordinary conversation? "Elaborate" or "elucidate" would more accurate and more common words.
I love how he still thinks that Depression Quest is a good game that pushes the boundaries of the definition of a "game". These kind of text games have been pretty common on iOS for the last 2 years or so and are 10 years ahead of Zoe's crap.
Device 6 was a lot of people's choice for game of the year in 2013 and it beats the fuck out of shit like DQ.
That's not true at all. If you played any of the old text based games and some of the newer ones you'd know they are completely different.
Old style text based games only use text as an input and display method. There may be a plot but they're not interested in telling a story per se.
The new style text games are really more like interactive graphic novels. They want to tell a story and use the medium to amplify it.
What makes Depression Quest so bad is that it doesn't use the medium at all (unless the medium is 90s web pages) and it does nothing to help build atmosphere. Even the story itself is shit and focuses on unique encounters and multiple endings and other shit that actually detracts from telling a good story.
How Eron can believe that Zoe is pushing boundaries is beyond me. Even Blackbar on iOS is better than DQ, and that game made me ragequit because it relies entirely on you having the same daily vocabulary as the writer. But at least it told a story that piques your interest enough to want to know what is happening to the characters.
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Reading over the chat, we need to take on board what Eron has mentioned.
When the harrasment stops, we starve the beast, when we go against their narative of us, their propganda dies.
If we make a joint effort, people like Zoe and Anita who have such a following due to propaganda of…
"4chan/gamers are against women, if you don't support me, you hate women!"
I'm going to write out a small plan, for now, check this comic out…
Anita is pissed, for the first time in two years her mask has ever so slightly fallen out of place, we're doing something right guys.
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Ew why have they drawn her thin?
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jared added to the mix, might even be the sixth guy
what the fuck lolcow fuck off with your automated bullshit i'm trying to post legit stuff here
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have some more fuel on how zoe is a lying bitch, too
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and here's some more shit on how reddit is covering it up
just screencaps tho so take it with a grain of salt, but it would be a lot of effort to doctor all this shit together
I guess it's based on her old nude pics where she is pudgy but not fat.
Man, she has ballooned up through the years.
Man, I really hate her writing style.
(I vaguely remember from thezoepost something about her saying that she's always upfront in her communcations with people, and from the screened FB convos, I really don't see that, at all; she's really bad at communicating online.)
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I've been following the Wikipedia side of this. Wikipedia's policy is to describe reliable, published sources. In order to keep the article true, it needs to be proven that the sources covering her are not reliable. Here are the standards.
This works. We were able to get the Escapist taken off the accepted source list because of Greg Tito's statement admitting they do not fact check on these topics.
Focus on the following sites:
Rock, Paper, Shotgun
Look for statements made by their staffers on social media that indicate how their publication does not meet Wikipedia's standards. Please post your findings in the thread.
Should also find out who this Mr. Stradivarius is because from the WP Talk page he seems VERY interested in keeping the information in favor of Quinn.
That said, this bitch doesn't even deserve a WP page in the first place. She's made one notable game in her entire life and that's it. Should just delete the whole thing.
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Euclid most definitely is in Quinn's camp. Stradivarius I am not so sure on. I honestly think he wants to follow Wikipedia's policy. So if "credible" news articles are backing up Quinn, then he will support them. But for the record he was in favor of changing the working about Quinn's fake harassment from WizardChan last Dec as "Quinn reported being harassed". So I think he is overall a neutral party.
This is why we need to discredit the news outlets. They are proven to be corrupt then we can ignore what they say.
The Escapist is not on the list
Well looking at the page's history…
>Randomly created on May 30 2014 by Shaun Edmonds. Some random gay cosplaying gamer guy who created his Wikipedia account only to create the Zoe Quinn article.
>Pushed for deletion by a Wikipedia reviewer for lack of notability.
>In flies Missvain to rescue the article. Her entire reason for being on Wikipedia seems to be to create articles about women. She describes herself as "a consultant who works works with organizations and individuals regarding cultural heritage, open culture, women-centric, and free knowledge services. I'm a feminist, with a proud history of being independent and passionate about the role of women in Wikipedia and beyond"
So basically she has a Wikipedia page because she's a woman and feminists hold women to lower standards.
My friend had his Wikipedia page deleted a few years ago for lack of notability. Even though if you search for his name on Wikipedia it's mentioned in other articles because he was a prominent modder and has been a lead developer on AAA titles before. Yet making shit like Depression Quest gets you an article because a bunch of white knights will defend you.
fuckin lol, that page is five time as long as the actual page
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I looked for other Wikipedia articles of people I know. Even though most of them are mentioned in various pages on Wikipedia, only one of them has an article (well actually his company has an article but it's mostly about him anyway).
But then his article is mostly about some industry drama he was involved in relating to companies exploiting indie devs. His article survives because he was quoted on game journalist sites and those qualify as sources on Wikipedia.
So it strikes me that Wikipedia's notability and source requirements create a bias towards drama queens. Someone could be an industry giant but if "journalists" don't talk about them they barely matter. This is why Zoe Quinn's article is longer than Kim Swift's.
(Also note that Kim Swift's article wasn't created until June 2012, five years after the release of Portal.)
i mean at this point
it's a fuckin joke, right?
like seriously, no one is THAT dumb
Small victory gentlemen. On Quinn's Wikipedia page, it has been edited to show that Zoe Quinn's 2013 "harassment" from WizardChan was just from her own twitter account.
Before it said: "In attempting to publish the game through Steam's Greenlight service in December 2013, Quinn was the target of harassment both online and through sexually explicit phone calls."
Now it says: " In attempting to publish the game through Steam's Greenlight service in December 2013, Quinn reported being the target of harassment both online and through sexually explicit phone calls."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoe_Quinn
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This popped up on my newsfeed today.
>mfw internet drama is now hitting mainstream
I did a literal spit-take upon seeing this.
>purely for the work they do
What, being a professional victim? She supported a cheating nepotist.
>implying she's in any actual danger
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Just saw this and thought you guys might like it. I admit I giggled.
That's what confuses me. Aren't wiki editors supposed to be impartial?
Also, do they just let any rando become an editor? I thought they had a screening process or some shit to preserve quality.
From Zoe's youtube channel, some white knight monitoring IRC chat where they interviewd Zoe's ex
unlisted vid btw
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Some evidence that she may have been faking donations. Could be that she donated with a private name (she uses some account labelled Patrick or some shit). Since it's a charity they're probably going to No Comment on it soon to avoid the drama. Once found out she changed the link to lead to some national hotline that's too big to care.
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Oh fucking wow.
I no longer give a shit what happens to her, she deserves anything negative things may happen to her. ANYTHING.
Making money off of depression by "raising awareness" with a shitty game that doesn't do a good job at doing just that was bad enough. But now she's not even donating money to the charities. She can go rot.>>11986
I'm glad to hear that there are people who study this who aren't insane. I always keep an open mind when I hear a reasonable person say they support equality and feminism, but if some random person says they're a feminist I'm instantly skeptical. I think the damage is largely already done.>>11810
They don't let any random person edit an article once it's protected. There are varying degrees of protection, to my understanding. Check out the World of Wikipedia article on ED for a very factual look at shit that obviously doesn't happen.
> http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-things-i-learned-as-internets-most-hated-person/>LOOK AT ME PLEASE LOOK AT ME GIVE ME A ATTENTION
If she seriously thinks she's the most hated person then she's 100% crazy. The internet's pretty much moved on from her. Hasn't Chris-chan been around for like five years now and there's a wiki dedicated to trolling and hating on him?
The whole thing is just her trying to get the hate directed back to her. Probably for profit. Your patreon gets you fucking $3000/month, how much more do you want you greedy cunt.
holy shit. she really is playing it up like it's because she's "feminist". but why would a feminist cheat on her boyfriend with at least five guys? why would a feminist profit off of depression and commit fraud? why would a feminist supress and harrass a project that would promote female game designers? these aren't things that are rumors either. they're facts.
she's playing so many people and I bet she's loving it. I really hope something really bad happens to her.
ZQ is 100% anti-Fappening
not because of "Da Misogyny"
but because it took attention away from her
>>13350>the Internet decided to make me the center of a supposed global conspiracy>supposed global conspiracy>global
you're not Enron
although you're big enough to be mistaken as such
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It makes me happy to see CDPROJEKT on there. The cry against the Witcher games being sexist because you can sleep with women (and get pretty art cards of them) makes me love them even more. (also totally a girl too)
The US is so anti-sex/nudity it's mind-boggingly. It's just tits. Get over it. Nudity is just kind of everywhere where I'm from.
easy fancy skins and shit. a little expensive though, but if you're not great at computer and how did you get here…
>were harassed for using the term "trap"
it's a term of endearment many transsexuals like, goddamn
some of it is influenced by a culture that has some serious problems with gender roles, coming from someone like me who wouldn't dream of calling myself a feminist.
great game, backed it from early on, never play it anymore because I'm a scrub. a great babbys first fighting game because of how friendly and in-depth the tutorials are. plus the animation is great, characters are colorful and the VAs clearly had fun (check the cast playthroughs where they get shitfaced, it's hilarious).
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So who heard of EmmaYouAreNext.com? The site promising the release nudes of Emma Watson. Based on GamerGate and The Fappening, a lot of the media believed 4chan was targeting Emma due to her recent speech at the UN in support of feminism.
See these big media outlets following the anti-4chan line:> Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/sep/23/feminists-rally-emma-watson-4chan-nude-photo-threats> BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/29322764
But now that the countdown on EmmaYouAreNext.com has ended, what happens when yo go there? See the pic.
Rantic.com does not seems to be a real marketing company and appears to be the same source as the GTA V PC version cancelled prank
Most successful 4chan media prank since hackers on steroids?
Also Emma's actual UN speech speech seems to have been a bit of a joke.
> Emma Watson: "Feminism too often linked with man-hating"> She is launching a campaign called HeForShe, which aims to get more men and boys fighting for equal rights.
Yeah I'm sure shaming men into towing your line will do lots to help the "man hating" image.
>>14520>Yeah I'm sure shaming men into towing your line will do lots to help the "man hating" image.
Anyway, it was clear from the start they were bluffing and didn't have shit or else we would have seen them all by now. None of the other celeb nudes were held until someone decided they didn't agree with what she said.
It wasn't really successful just kind of stupid really.
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The entire HeForShe campaign seems to be about getting men to post pictures of themselves with signs supporting "gender equality". OK, so why not get women to post as well. Why not call the campaign "EveryoneForEveryone"?
It's not even that new a concept. This is just a clear case of them getting caught red-handed doing it.>>14520
Heard it indirectly, was unsure why 4chan users would have the control or whatever to keep her n00ds hidden. Seemed unlikely, like >>14524
There's no sister campaign?
It's true that we need to work for equality, but I am not ever calling myself a feminist. I'm fine with explaining myself each time. Educated people seem to see where I'm coming from.
She touched on the subject of men suffering from gender stereotypes. Strange, seeing how this has nothing to do with what she's talking about. She just brought it up and then abandoned the issiue.
The "commitment" you're supposed to make is:
"Gender equality is not only a women’s issue, it is a human rights issue that requires my participation. I commit to take action against all forms of violence and discrimination faced by women and girls"
Yeah, that sounds pretty equal. Gender equality is everyones issiue, so lets focus on the girls. Getting to have a speech at the UN, but not thinking it through enough. Shame on her.http://www.lauramcalister.com/2014/09/23/real-gender-equality/
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Considering the widespread media coverage I think it was a pretty successful prank.
>>14532>She touched on the subject of men suffering from gender stereotypes. Strange, seeing how this has nothing to do with what she's talking about. She just brought it up and then abandoned the issiue.
Whenever feminists touch on those stereotypes it's always stuff like men not being emotional. Yet as a guy I'm as emotional as I want to be. I'm not suppressed.
Feminists seem to be concerned about the growing humanist and men's rights movements and so are more eager than ever to involve men. But it basically amounts to a bunch of patronising women telling men that they know what's best for us.
I don't see how people like this can be trusted to achieve equality.
>I don't do a thing therefore all men do not have this problem
When my boyfriend's cat died he tried so hard to cry, but nothing would come out.
He was so overwhelmed with sadness and yet he no outlet for which to release this outlet. What followed was a few hours of horrible, dry sobs with no tears to show for anything as his mental state wrestled with his emotional state, and this was because his entire life he had been conditioned from birth to always be the tough guy, the hard man, to never show weakness, to never let anybody see you cry, to never cry full stop.
TL;DR, shut up.
Oh, you're another one of those patronising women that knows what's best for me.
I'll shut up now. Thanks for valuing my opinions.
Don't get your knickers in a knot, bro. She was clearly talking about her boyfriend, not you. YOU may have no trouble expressing certain kinds of emotions, but some men do.
Your experience =/= Everyone's experience… imagine that!
>>14583>Your experience =/= Everyone's experience… imagine that!
You do realise that's exactly what >>14569
is about? Feminists claim to speak for me, they claim to understand my experience. I say they don't and I'm told to "shut up".
I'm not the one dismissing anyone's experiences.
Crying can be hard. This is normal for all manner of reasons. It CAN be because of it being percieved as emasculating.
But listen to what he's actually saying. There are some quite pressing issiues that aren't just "oh you can't cry". Stuff like drafting men to combat roles, custody being won almost exclusively by women, or if you want more social issiues try the inherent inequality of heterosexual dating.
There's no reason for you to tell him to shut up.>>14583
I do, too. I don't attribute it to gender roles. I have far more important personal problems relating to gender than not having an easy time crying.
nothing really new, just more bullshit
the part that made me laugh was calling Vivian James "an anime girl"
it's funny, Cracked was always one of the bottom feeders, but i used to think they had decent content from time to time
Oh my, not even making the world worse, it's dooming the world. I wouldn't argue that cheating, nepotism and loss of journalistic integrity would have such a severe impact, but…
>#7. "The Whole Thing Is an Ex-Boyfriend's Revenge"
Considering the extensive coverage this has recieved, arguing that this is only about the aspect of her cheating on her boyfriend is inexcusable. But hell, pretend exploiting your sexual attractiveness, specific to your gender in this heteronormative society, is fair and equal conduct befitting someone claiming to be a feminist.
>#6. There's #Gamergate Porn
Because this is relevant how? The main issiue they seem to take is with drawings of Vivian. Also, I find it funny how they hate on futa/trap drawings of Viv. I was under the impression that inceasing acceptance of transsexuals was one of the goals of modern feminism? But I guess they're supposed to be treated differently- no porn of them allowed, clearly. Equality, people!
Next, they go on to hate image related. Clearly, it's intended as fapfuel. Drawing ponos and vagoo are signs of a doomed society, people.
>#5. The Lawyers Against Gaming Corruption
What about the elephant in the room? You know, the whole conflict of interest and corruption thing of the subject we're talking about?
>#4. Zombie Social Media
I suppose I can agree. People blindly defending or attacking in this matter are jackoffs. Quite like the author in this article, who doesn't know what they're talking about.
>#3. The Sworn Enemies of Justice
Apparently, critizing tumblr feminism is a sign of the end times. I'd like to argue the exact opposite.
>#2. The Alleged Corruption Never Happened
Holy shit on a saltine, this guy is fucking retarded.>The alleged scandal is a pathetic fantasy. A woman bestowing sexual favors so that men will look at the video game she made?
Well, there's that, which we KNOW happened, but there's also the fact that she committed fraud, claiming to donate to charity, but doesn't have the reciepts to back it up.
>#1. #Gamergate Is the Wrong Banner
I'm confused, really. Apparently, since this hashtag is used by jackoffs, one ought abandon it. It's not like it's valuable for keeping discussion of this in one place OH WAIT. But suppose twitter banned it or so. A new one would spring, and it'd be exactly the same, albeit a tiny bit smaller. Imagine all such things were magically banned, and now you have censorship. And again people, this is an article titled "7 Reasons "Gamergate" Proves Humanity is Doomed". Using the wrong hashtag. I'll collect my cyanide pill on the way out, thank you very much.
Shit like this drains me. I need a fucking reality check, to make sure I haven't gone insane and that I'm living in some nightmarish world where people vehemently defend cheating, lying hypocrites.
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I canceled my image post because of mean tweets.
Anita is at it again: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-29626809
>Feminist video-games talk cancelled after massacre threat
>Ms Sarkeesian tweeted that she had not cancelled her lecture because of the email itself, but rather because she had not felt that the security measures would be adequate.
>"Requested pat downs or metal detectors after mass shooting threat - but because of Utah's open-carry laws, police wouldn't do firearm searches," she wrote.
This chick has lost it. I wonder how many times she can pull this stunt before more people stop taking her seriously.
Also another woman copied Anita's stunts a few days earlier: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-29616197
>Ms Wu fled her home on Friday 10 October after graphic sexual threats were made against her.
What is with these people and leaving their homes?
These are people who don't understand the internet and are trying to take advantage of it, it's as simple as that.
2 trolls saying "I'll kill you bitch" on twitter either seriously frightens them because "muh triggers" or they see an excellent opportunity to take advantage of it because it fits into their professional victim narrative perfectly. Or for some, maybe a bit of both.
It's also fear mongering as Anita is basically saying to her followers that they should take stupid threats seriously. Anita may be disingenuous but such a mindset would be really damaging to one of her young followers who believes everything she says.
But that's pretty much how a lot of the cultish SJW stuff works. Even "mainstream" feminism is very fear based.
can we talk about the bigger lolcow here, phil fish?
if you have skin as thin as he does you should never interact with the public. ever
Thing is, Zoe Quinn / GG must be Phil Fish's third or fourth public meltdown. He was already a joke.
I'm sure he will be back in a year or so ranting about some shit and then make his Twitter private again once people start disagreeing with him.
Also did anyone see the Seth Rogen dick pic thing?http://twitchy.com/2014/10/15/adam-baldwin-unfazed-by-seth-rogens-sophomoric-attacks-over-gamergate/
its really weird seeing legitimately famous people involved, not just video game nobodies.
this shit is so dumb on all sides and its not even amusing anymore its just annoying.
sorry for bumping an old thread but I need to get this out of my system because I just found it>>8204
Exactly. It's horrible how a cesspool of vice and pretty much the pure essence of free speech is scared of one goddamn manipulative camwhore who guilt trips and blames people for her own mistakes and selfishness, doesn't have any talent of her own so she just needs to cover it by crying and being as much of a bitch as she can.
I'm a female in tech. I've always been interested in computers and I currently have a degree in computer science and I'm specialized in web programming. So it goes without saying that 90% of the time I'm the only woman present. And thanks to people like Sarkeesian and Quinn, I will continue to be. They're the ones who are scaring women off the whole field, telling them to take every piece of critique as a misogynist attack, encouraging women to be as thin-skinned and helpless as possible, demonizing the whole industry just because it's male-dominated. Well guess fucking what, in IT you don't get anywhere without skills. It doesn't matter if you're a man or a woman, if you're a good programmer you're taken seriously and you'll get a job. If you're a shit programmer, then it shows. Programming has concrete results to show and your understanding of the paradigm is easy to test, so you can't really fake your career. Cold mathematical logic is objective.
These bitches are so busy whining about everything that they PRESUME is wrong with the industry just for a quick buck to support their own bullshit projects. They're using peoples' good intentions and riding on the subject of feminism just to support their own agenda. This is nowhere better showcased than in what Zoe did to that tFYC game jam. She purposely ruined a group encouraging women to start making games just because she felt it was competing with her snowflake project.
It's like the whole world is crazy. I see rabid articles building a strawmen army of misogynist terrorists to defend their queens and throw all the ethics of journalism out of the window. They don't even bother to check the facts or interview anyone from the opposite side, they just come up with quotes from "scary internet anons" that can't be validated for legitimacy in the sense that it's some goddamn anonymous person in the internet spewing crap on Twitter. All criticizing discussion of Zoe and Sarkeesian is deleted and banned around the web. What the hell is happening?
I'm pretty sure that if I just wrote an article how I was violently raped at my workplace because I'm a woman in tech and that's what regularly happens to women in tech, ezines like Gawker would swallow it without a question and print it out without never checking the facts and slap on a couple of clickbaiting headers.
dude no one cares
lol thanks for bumping an old and annoying ass thread just TO MAKE IT CLEAR to all of lolcow how much of a cOOL programmer chick you are. Irony. No one truly cares. Fuck off.
Not even that anon, but holy shit you are one sandy cunt. She didn't make it about being a cool programmer. She vented, which is something some of you have done on this board since it's creation. She's obviously not looking to impress anybody when this site is inhabited by, let's face it, all fucking chicks. You got defensive for no fucking reason and whether you like or not, Quinn is still up to her usual bullshit and so is Anita. It's horseshit like that that makes ALL fucking women look bad.
Here's an idea; Don't rely so heavily on lolcow for entertainment that when you see a thread which you don't give a fuck about get bumped, you get ass ravaged because it isn't about what -you- want to be a gossipy cunt about. I don't give a fuck about Ashley or Micky, yet I don't pitch a fit when their threads receive more traffic than Traci or Quirky's.
You wanna be a cunt? Head back to halfchan /cgl/, because their Tumblrina asses could sure use it.
What the fuck are you talking about? It was relevant to the post to mention that she's a woman in tech because she can speak from a relevant viewpoint, unlike some sociology/literature/graphic design student who thinks she has any idea what's going on in the IT field. She mentioned that as someone who works in the field while representing the minority gender she knows it's due to the person's own incompetence if her or she is not skilled enough. IT is like one of the few industries that don't have a wage gap between women and men because your pay is evaluated by your skill which can be easily measured by your results.
>I have a science degree in a heavily male dominated field as well, and this shit just confirms that most girls in fields where the female to male ratio is 1 to 50 have some sort of attention whore complex where they constantly need to make irrelevant situations about them.
I find this hilariously ironic. Instead of focusing on the point about people who know nothing about what they're rallying for and being huge hypocrites, you attack the poster's gender mention.
The fact that there are few guys here is evidence that she's giving an honest opinion.
She wasn't saying she's unique amongst her gender, just that some women in male-majority fields like programming and game dev are completely fucking crazy and take all forms of interaction as perceived slights or discrimination. Look at people like Shanley and Sarkeesian for prime examples.
Disclaimer: I'm a male who works in tech. I'd love to have more women in the industry, and the only woman coworker I had was a lot better than many of her male colleagues. I'm not sexist, I just don't like narcissists and professional victims. The industry grows more and more SJW by the year.
All you're doing is rehashing her arguments. I'm not saying her points aren't invalid. The fact that she needs to bump the months old gamergate thread just to whine and vent about her experiences as a womyn in STEM~ just prove how much attention starved she really is. She couldn't have just, oh I don't know, not commented and kept that shit to herself? No one cares about this anymore, at least on here. She brought no new information to the table. She just wanted to talk about herself and how she's so much better than women in her field.>>42592
Finally someone gets it.
Original UNIQUE SELF-GENDER HATING ATTENTION WHORE TECH GURRRLLL(>>42359
) here. According to your surprisingly incoherent and bitter rage I'm beginning to think that you're either a troll or a MRA so I'm going to ignore the ad hominem arguments to answer WHY I bumped the thread and to open my point better.
>I just recently, like a couple of days ago, saw a seminar where some lazy anti-GG bitch made feminism all about her instead of women. So the problem isn't "dead and buried". She spent the whole seminar just talking about herself and why her feelings are the most important, which is the main problem with these fake feminists.>This also happened fairly recently. After a discussion about Gamergate in Facebook I was told (by a Quinn supporter, who actually had no fucking idea what GG was about) that I'm not a real feminist because I don't defend lying, manipulative camwhores.>I want to see more women in the IT field and people scaring them off by telling they'll get harassed by default aren't helping. >Because I want to see more women get interested in CS and possibly game development people like Quinn and Sarkeesian aren't good role models for girls who might be interested. They don't have any talent and nothing to show off their hard work besides a massive victim complex. Yet they're the ones who get the spotlight instead of actual female developers. Even they themselves don't help recognize female workers in the tech field, they're only talking about themselves and ruining competitors (again, the tFYC case). Which is sickening because they're using people for their own benefit, it reminds me of a charity that collects money for some noble cause but keeps all the dough for itself. Oh wait, Sarkeesian did do that.>>42673>The fact that she needs to bump the months old gamergate thread just to whine and vent about her experiences as a womyn in STEM~ just prove how much attention starved she really is.
Excuse me, but you've spanned like 10 replies here with your incoherent rage that wouldn't even have existed if I hadn't mentioned my gender in my first post. Just ignore it and let the thread sink.
>She couldn't have just, oh I don't know, not commented and kept that shit to herself? No one cares about this anymore, at least on here.
I could say the same to you.
Polite sage this time.
Also correcting myself. >I want to see more women in the IT field and people scaring them off by telling they'll get harassed by default aren't helping.
What I meant to say was:
>I want to see more women in the IT field and people WHO KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT THE INDUSTRY BECAUSE THEY DON'T WORK THERE OR HAVE A QUALIFYING DEGREE OR ANY EXPERIENCE BESIDES TROLLS IN THE INTERNET scaring them off by telling they'll get harassed by default aren't helping.
Thank you for such an enlightening post.
Dunno why you're getting so much shit for it.
Oh for fuck's sake you may think you're calling her out on her "attention whore" ways but the truth is that you're a much more autistic motherfucker trying to bitch and moan about someone else venting. From her post I don't see her being "teehee I'm the only woman in IT" but rather "I'm the only woman in IT most of the time and it annoys me that two bitches are going to keep it that way for a while thanks to their shit antics".
Seriously go back to 4chan to be a whiny cunt.
humblebrag? "I am a female in tech"
OMG U PROGRAM? U BRAGGER
holy shit you're retarded
hey guys, I'm a male janitor in a male dominated field. /humblebrag
* this isn't the current zoe quinn thread
* you're either shitposting or you really are an idiot