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No. 97097
>>97095Disabled kids' parents go one of two ways; they very publicly overcompensate (Think Hartleigh hooligans or whatever the fuck that monster of a mum calls those vegetables) or they quietly fail to cope whilst taking it out on their closest relatives. Never seen a family that didn't go one of those two ways. None of them are ever genuinely happy, unless they're rich enough to afford to not have to actually look after the kids.
You'll notice that the siblings of disabled kids are usually really against the idea of ever having a disabled kid themselves, and very pro-abortion towards it. I think it's because parents feel so much pressure to love their children absolutely unconditionally that they can't express their feelings of regret or dislike towards their children where as it's mostly acceptable for siblings not to get along.
The parents end up thinking of themselves as monsters for having any negative thoughts about their kids and not being able to love these kids 100% unconditionally so they put on a facade of overcompensation.
No. 97124
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I am pro-life.
No. 97136
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>>97134>But, but eugenics is unethical. Eugenics is RACIST!!!In 100 years the white/caucasian genotype will be effectively extinct but white features and white phenotypes will live on in blonde/color-eyed designer babies of Chinese elites since they clearly don't give a fuck about leftist 'ethics'
No. 97166
>>97129I hate that we live in a society that encourages babies to be born even if they are born with disorders that hinder them. Disorders that won't help them function in society and get jobs or careers because the government and taxpayers will have to care for them for life. It pisses me off honestly as a taxpayer and someone who struggles with school to get a decent job (hopefully.)
Why the hell would any woman not want to abort a kid with down syndrome? or autism?
No. 97239
>>97166When you are pregnant, hormones kick in, lots of hormones. Some women loose their mind and would want to take care of the child, even if baby won't going to live long after birth.
We had friends, whose child has disabilities since birth, i heard mother once said that he won't live long life because of progression of genetic illness. She's very worried, but still works hard to give him everything he need. The kid lives happy life and is very talented in general, he doesn't know how bad his illness is.
No. 97424
>>97402There are homes but taxpayers have to support them. Sometimes the burden will be passed off to another family member too. I know that there are some homes that try to teach life skills for the higher functioning ones so they can work and keep themselves clean, eating, etc. but they still have to be checked on by social workers.
Going off on a tangent here. I was watching some documentary/reality show (I can't fucking remember) about downs syndrome adults who attend such classes to work and try to function in society. There were two of them who were a romantic couple and they wanted to get married and have babies of their own. Their parents kept trying to tell them that they can't have babies because they wouldn't be around forever and couldn't take care of their babies for them. Of course they didn't understand that. I was just thinking how fucking insane that would be to allow them to breed knowing they both have downs and would probably pass it on to make more downs babies. What would happen to society trying to deal with all of that? The parents certainly wouldn't be able to since they need caring for themselves. But I'm sure it happens sometimes too.
No. 97501
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Women who willingly choose to have a baby who has down syndrome or autism want to be seen as martyrs and heroes, but this is the reality of it.
No. 97508
>>97506Autistic kids love Chuck-e-Cheese, safe to assume it was the eighteen year-old's own choice. I'd rather my kid be alone and happy at somewhere they loved than a sidenote at a crowded event. Coming from somebody who had almost every one of his childhood birthday parties at laser tag arenas, most kids only really come for the cake, pizza, and games.
Prenatal examinations for birth defects still have a pretty wide margin of inaccuracy. The "look how good of a mom I am"-types who refuse to abort children with obvious birth defects definitely exist and aren't all that uncommon, but they're still overwhelmed in number by mothers raising children who were unpredictably born disabled or developed a condition over time. I'd send that girl a birthday card.
No. 97517
>>97508disregard I suck cocks. I'm disgusting.
The mother asking for birthday cards on behalf of her daughter is a pretty awful thing to do. If there's one wrong message to send to a disabled teenager like Hailee, it's that they're so handicapped by their condition that in addition to spending their whole birthday party alone, complete strangers pity them so much that the strangers have to send meaningless birthday cards to the disabled kid to they can feel better about themselves.
No. 97520
>>97516My brother in law has assburgers that's considered 'mild' and he's on his way to spending his life alone. My in laws tried teaching him basic survival skills but he's stubborn and only ever eats macaroni with ketchup and chocolate pudding. Literally throws a fit if anything else is suggested and he's nearing 30. Otherwise he's a nice guy but he behaves like a ten year old despite knowing better. He'll never have a job or an apartment, thankfully he can sorta do okay by himself but it's still not ideal.
Can't imagine what actual autism is like if this is mild.
No. 97993
>>97520My husbands brother has severe autism and it's a nightmare. He's 13. Almost 5'9, over 200 lbs. basically a boulder of a kid. He thinks running around with no pants/underwear is funny. Will only eat junk foods. He jumps up and down and screams. He hits people and breaks things. He can hardly speak at all. He's on a serious track to be in a care home by the time he is 16. He screams/shrieks when he doesn't get his way because he knows his parents will eventually give in because the screaming will stop. He has no skills and will probably just end up hurting someone so he gets his way. I feel bad for them.
I understand some can have quality life….but this is a nightmare. It makes me not ever want children. At least kids with downs can work, talk, have a quality life. Severe autism? Hell no.
No. 98675
>>98663This is a pretty interesting topic for scientists because it's kind of a taboo area even just to research. It's starting to become unacceptable to think of autism as a disorder anymore, let alone research it with ways to find it and "cure" it in mind. The word "Neurotypical" Was basically invented for this purpose; "Autistic people have nothing wrong with them! They're just different! We're the ones at fault for not being able to accept and adapt to their amazing uniqueness!"
Basically, because autistic people can't into empathy, and all of them see autism as part of their identity, if you criticise it at all they see it as you attacking them. Which because no empathy takes precedent over the fact them existing makes everyone around them's lives worse. It's amazing; when they're confronted with this fact they just get upset about the fact someone said something bad about them. They cannot and do not give a single shit about how they effect the people around them.
They can't even sympathise with other autistic people. They push and push against any cures or intervention or treatment because they would rather that hundreds of kids are born suffering like they do than allow a cure exist, because admitting they have something wrong with them hurts their feelings too much.
No. 98676
Honestly, the thought that after years of preparations, 9 months of pregnancy, all the sweat, blood and tears, despite any possible precautions I might still deliver a child that turns out severely disabled makes me too terrified to even consider pregnancy. I feel like raising a healthy, smart kid is enough of a challenge, but one that would require extensive care, maybe even it's entire life? Fuck. No.
There's this lady around that gave birth to a child with down's syndrome, a low functioning one to boot, and is now advocating to ban abortion of "defective" fetuses because her precious baby is oh so precious and special. Eugenics seems cruel, but isn't it much worse to force already grown and aware women to bear such children against their will? I don't know what's more cruel, telling people that they should've considered this before planning a healthy normal pregnancy or that if they can't take care of a sick child they should just leave it at a care home. Like that wouldn't be met with a terrible outcry, suuuure. Most likely from the same fucking people.
No. 98704
>>98675>The word "Neurotypical" Was basically invented for this purpose; "Autistic people have nothing wrong with them! They're just different! We're the ones at fault for not being able to accept and adapt to their amazing uniqueness!" The word 'neurotypical' wasn't invented by tumblr sjws you fucking retard, read a book. It quite literally means that your neural activity is typical of a person with no mental/developmental defects or disorders, it makes no comment on whether any particular group is better than the other or 'at fault'.
>Basically, because autistic people can't into empathy, and all of them see autism as part of their identityStop getting your autism 'facts' from 4chan.
>They push and push against any cures or intervention or treatment because they would rather that hundreds of kids are born suffering like they do than allow a cure exist, because admitting they have something wrong with them hurts their feelings too much.You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what autism is if you think that a cure can and will be created for a developmental disorder.
How do you type out sweeping generalisations like this and not feel stupid while doing it?
No. 98706
>>98704This post is a good representation of how the autistic "mind" works.
Sad.
No. 98712
>>98704Neurotypical is a term first coined by the autistic community to refer to normal people, mostly in a disparaging way. It's their "Normalfag" equivalent. A five second google search will tell you this. It has only been very recently adopted by SOME of the scientific community, but it is by no means an actually valid, purely scientific term. It started out as a way for autistic people to bitch about their parents, teachers and so on for being normal on online messageboards, and this is still 99% of its usage today.
I didn't indicate in my post whether I personally thought a cure was within the realm of possibility. Way to completely miss the point. What I'm talking about is activists who aggressively stop any discussion on the topic of "Fixing" Autism. You'll also notice I included "treatment" and "Intervention" in the same sentence. The point is that whether or not they're realistic options or possibilities, we're not even allowed to discuss them because autists throw a tantrum.
No. 98740
>>97993The cool thing about autism is that these kids tend to do two things 1-wandering 2 - bolting
Basically they are prone to leaving their home/school/whatever and getting lost. Even when you're with them they will sometimes suddenly decide to bolt into eg. incoming traffic which is why tard wranglers tend to use leashes on them.
It's a very easy way to "tragically" lose your kid. Just let them run into traffic. A sad casualty to autism.
No. 99085
>>97993This is why I cringe so hard when I see these tumblr kids self diagnosing themselves with autism. They think it's some fun costume to wear when you are feeling quirky and snowflakey. They get really pissed if anyone tells them they aren't autistic or should get a legit diagnosis.
>>98675Chris Chan has said before that he wanted to be cured. But I don't know if that's typical or not.
But there is something wrong with them. If you can't live without assistance or function in the real world (and most of them can't) then you are not normal. I hate it when they list a bunch of well known quirky people as autistic too. It think it's just their way of trying to prove that autistics can run the world and invent everything. That they are actually superior to neurotypical individuals.
Refusing to accept egg and sperm donations from autistics is not genocide. And I have heard it called genocide as well as eugenics. They should take into consideration that some couples choose egg/sperm donation to avoid genetic diseases that they don't want to pass down. If you are choosing the egg/sperm then you have the right to samples free of defects. If there is an autism gene then why on Earth would anyone outside of tumblr want to pass it down?
What I do see is parents complaining that their autistic children's public meltdowns are looked down upon and criticized. I'm sorry, but if your kid can't behave in public they shouldn't be in public. People's eating and shopping shouldn't be disrupted by your little autistic miracle's meltdowns.
I think the parents are so used to it that they don't realise how much it affects other people. I rarely see anyone asked to leave a store because their kids are acting up anymore. Everyone is afraid of being sued.
>>98676My mom told me that when she was in the hospital after having my brother there was a couple who had a baby with downs syndrome. They didn't take her home. They relinquished custody of her. They appeared to be rather well off. So that wasn't the problem. I think it's kind of sad. But I can understand why they wouldn't want to be burdened with the care of a defective infant. I wonder what happened to her. She probably ended up in some kind of facility. It was the early 80s so there wouldn't be any social media backlash.
These days every little miracle potato is on Youtube with the parents gushing over every milestone they finally manage to get half right after years of physical therapy.