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There was the banana diet trend. The one where they drank warm water and hot water. The one with massages. The one where you only eat one kind of food for a few days.
they're also much shorter than most European girls so they need less calories.
I'm not saying you're wrong but tall people just need more calories.
But yeah, in comparison they still eat less calories than western countries.
meh, some people love this look, others don't
but your body frame and height doesn't get defined by your diet.
The portion sizes are smaller but in my experience they have more items per meal. A Japanese dinner has like six small items, a Western dinner has like three big ones (such as meat, potatoes and vegetables). I think it's more the quality of their food that makes the difference.
Overall though, just lucky genetics.
>>91228>That's it. >PCOS>water retention
How about no you fucking retard?
>If you eat a lot, you're going to be fat. >Calories in, calories out.
You can consume a lot of calories without eating much, and vice versa.
I'm so sick of this misleading broscience-tier bullcrap.
true but some people do have fast metabolism…wich was actually a bad thing when food wasn't an abundance yet.>>91234
you can't generate energy out of nothing because (real) science
I could be wrong as it's not firsthand experience but I read a blogger living there saying they have a ton of fatty food but also a ton of zero calorie diet food with no taste at all.
Dated a japanese guy a while back and he told me tv is also 80% cooking channels.
So I guess it's a mix of everything, good food, less tolerance of fat people, popular diet food etc…
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yeah they have these shirataki noodles wich is really filling but has almost no calories
Any idea what other low cal foods they have?
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They're also huge on jelly (the agar and gelatin kind) and seaweed which are pretty filling and low cal
I've bought Meiji protein meal packs but they seem pretty average nutrition-wise. There were a bunch of different flavored which was nice, their strawberry and vanilla packs were really good compared to any other protein I've bought but the banana was like drinking circus peanuts.>>91024
I love seeing pictures from their cafes and places like Starbucks because you can see how small their desserts/sweets are.
Whereas here in America I practically have to beg or make a deal with the barista just to get a short sized drink at sb. I really wish we had similar sized portions available normally.
American here. Can confirm that this is true. My nearest grocery store is a 30 minute bike ride from my apartment. Unfortunately that store is one of those snobby overpriced ~organic~ places where it's $8 for a pound of apples so I have to go a bit farther to get normal priced food.
Before I moved out of my parents', there was literally nowhere local to hang out with my friends after school. Getting anywhere required a car.
Being able to walk everywhere was my favorite thing about visiting France and Japan. I really want to live somewhere where I can walk down the street to get groceries instead of having to set aside time to get groceries every week.
Yeah that sounds like a huge pain tbh.
I used to laugh at Americans on account of the whole J-walking thing, that is until I learned how fucking huge your roads are.
I actually really like that show, it shows both extremes without saying one of them is better or worse. I believe two contestants even hooked up afterwards.
Also, I found it funny when you sometimes had the fat one at least admit they eat like shit, and the skinny one they had would be like "Nah just living on energy drinks is totally fine"
Actually, there used to be decent public transport in America and people didn't necessarily need cars to get from point A to point B unless they were in rural Alabama.
Then General Motors went ahead and bought off almost all streetcars (trams of yore) and public vehicles and peddled their planned suburban jungle plans so hard people started building those ugly beehive suburbs and telling people to move there. They destroyed the streetcars and started selling their cars to the suburbanites, and marketed them so that each family member wanted their own car.
And that's the story of how capitalist lobbying ruined America. If it weren't for that you'd have less Walmarts, more family owned stores and people moving to live near cities and towns like in Europe.
Is tru, Google General Motors streetcar conspiracy.
There should be a Wikipedia page about it.
I'm the anon you're replying to.
Nah, you're just making excuses for being fat. It's just that you're big boned, right? You're not fat, it's all just water weight! Your PCOS forces you to stuff your face and sit on your ass all day, yeah? Yeah! You don't have a choice in the matter! Being fat is just in your genetics!
Calories in, calories out. It's not bro science, it's how weight loss/gain actually works. Please take your HAES, cholesterol ridden brain back to tumblr where you belong.>>91255
Some, i.e. a very, VERY small portion of the population. The vast majority of skinny people just don't eat a lot. Once again: calories in, calories out. Stop making excuses for yourself, anons.
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I don't even have either PCOS or water retention. I'm not making excuses for anything. Those are nothing but two examples I use to show that the body is not a perfect thermodynamic engine. It's the reason you look at your weight by the trend over weeks instead of days.
>Calories in, calories out. It's not bro science
No, you're correct. Calories in, calories out isn't
broscience. The /fit/ kool-aid is where it implies the amount of calories is anywhere close to being proportional to the mass of food you eat which is what she did when she said If you eat a lot, you're going to be fat. That's it
. This is why lots of fat people don't see any weight loss – because they listen to oversimplified, misleading shitty advice then take them completely at face value. But it's okay, because in reality none of you ever really cared about advice being helpful at all.
I'm the anon you're talking about, again.
Alright then, how do you propose people lose weight, if not by eating less than they do typically? By wishing it away? What is your point here? The reason why fat people who fail at their diets fail time and time again is because they're not actually dieting, they're either lying about what they're really eating or aren't counting their calories right.
And are you sure you're not making excuses, because it sure looks like you are. You aren't losing weight, 32in waist-chan, because you can't shut your pie hole for a single day, and have to make excuses about the 'body not [being] a perfect thermodynamic engine'.
Weight loss is very, very simple. Just. Eat. Less.
>>91511>How can you help someone that clearly doesn't want help?
lol i fucking knew it.>>91508>Alright then, how do you propose people lose weight, if not by eating less than they do typically?
They eat things that have fewer calories? Did you even read anything I wrote? An obese person trying to lose weight without changing their diets is going straight to ED
>>91513>lol i fucking knew it
Do you actually want help with losing weight or not? You say people are being unhelpful, but brush off everything that will actually help you lose weight
. Again, I can't force you to do what you don't want to do.
>They eat things that have fewer calories?
You do realise that's exactly what I'm saying by eat less, right? Did you
even read anything I wrote? If you eat 2k calories, eat 1.5k instead. You'll lose weight. I'm not saying instead of eating a kilo, eat a gram. So literal, you are.
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Oh you mean this (pic) i tend to do that from time to time switch out my regular carbs with cabbage. It works pretty well for me cabbage is really good for you it cleared up my skin, gave me great poops (sry tmi) and i lost weight
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There was also pikarins (model from popteen) water diet which was that you are supposed to drink 500ml water before every meal, only 3 meals per day and only 1200kcal per day and if you get hungry between the meals drink more water.
Then there is the half bath thing where you fill the tub with super hot water only up to your belly button and keep the top half of your body dry. This will make you sweet ALOT, do this for 40 min
I'm more of the opinion that Japanese are short because of lack of calories in their diet.
Recent Korean and Chinese teens now rival Europeans in height and have since surpassed Japan
>I'm more of the opinion that Japanese are short because of lack of calories in their diet
People are genetically programmed to attain maximum growth at a specified height, that for Eastern Asians, few rarely exceed. These are hard-coded into the DNA of both the ova and spermatozoa before even conception occurs, and throughout development a series of of genes are triggered
at specified points that send a command out to the body to lengthen a bone here, develop a muscle here etc. These commands continue out of the womb and all the way up until your mid-20's when you reach maximum growth potential.
You could also make the argument that the same applies to Caucasians when compared with Negroids due to the fact that they grow larger than us. Is it on account of the fact that they have consumed for thousands of years a higher level of calories? No, it's just a series of climate and environmental factors.
The bodies of all species on this planet develop primarily in response to their environment, the terrain around them, the temperature, mating processes, predators etc. It may just well be that the Japanese are shorter on average because a short body is better suited to the climate of East Asia. If it was due to malnourishment this is something that would display through tests.
>>91545>There was also pikarins (model from popteen) water diet which was that you are supposed to drink 500ml water before every meal, only 3 meals per day and only 1200kcal per day and if you get hungry between the meals drink more water.
sounds like a normal cutting diet? Not even cutting much calories considering her height.
>Then there is the half bath thing where you fill the tub with super hot water only up to your belly button and keep the top half of your body dry. This will make you sweet ALOT, do this for 40 min
That will only make you lose water weight and won't do shit in the long run. Just like those plastic wraps.
thanks for the reply!
Anyone else know of more miracle foods?
The sticky is worthless.>>91516>everyone knows this
Bullshit. Most people never think about how many calories are in a tablespoon of mayo.>>91517>Knew… what?
Are you mentally challenged? I even greentexted it for you.
>>91689>Most people never think about how many calories are in a tablespoon of mayo.
maybe not you and your trailer trash family, but most normal, healthy people do
stop making a fool of yourself
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>>91689>a tablespoon of mayo
Who the fuck even eats that much mayo?
Yeah? Calorie counting in the mainstream is relatively a recent thing. How often do you see nutrition information listed in cookbooks, retard?>>91717
Nice try, but I didn't say anything about eating a tablespoon of mayo.
>>91689>How can you help someone that clearly doesn't want help? >lol i fucking knew it.
Can you even fucking speak English? What exactly did you know? What the fuck? Not only are you delusional, but you're also stupid. Wow!
Remain a 32in waist-chan, I don't care, because you clearly don't. Enjoy your early, likely cardiovascular related death. :^)
>Yeah? Calorie counting in the mainstream is relatively a recent thing.
No, it's not fattie. People have been counting calories for years, or at least eyeballing portion sizes and going 'this is way too much' or 'this is human sized.'
Obesity hasn't been an issue until the last few decades. Calorie counting isn't even difficult. We now have apps to count for us. It's the easiest shit in the world now.
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>>91734>Can you even fucking speak English?
Yeah, seem like you can't though. Here, let me hold your hand, try not to get lost this time:
>none of you ever really cared about advice being helpful at all.>How can you help someone that clearly doesn't want help?
Translation: yeah you're right. My advice is unhelpful. But it doesn't matter, since they won't listen anyway LOL
If that's not an admission I was right the whole damn time then I don't know what the fuck is.>>91736>the logic in your advice is lousy.>y-you must be fat!
Great follow-up as always shitposter. FYI I never once defended HAES or whatever the fuck you have in mind right now, or implicitly asked for advice on losing weight. At this point I'm pretty sure I know more about nutrition than you fucks seeing all the retarded shit you've already spouted.
>People have been counting calories for years
Years! That's your definition of "old"? Is that how long civilization has been around?
>or at least eyeballing portion sizes and going 'this is way too much' or 'this is human sized.'
That's exactly the opposite of portion control you straw-grasping imbecile. It should already be obvious but I'm going to say it: The whole point of calorie counting is that you DON'T know the amount of calories in a plate of food simply by eyeballing it. Many times you think you do, but you don't. Common sense is misleading. You having to resort to bringing up something tangentially related in order to pretend you have a point is just pathetic. Fact is calorie counting wasn't popular until recently. Get it over it.
>inb4 more backpedaling via arguing semantics
you're really easy to wind up
take a deep breath and walk away from the computer
I love weight threads, there's always super aggressive hangry drama in here.
Anyways to stay on topic, I collect j fashion magazines and the weight loss sections are always full of really laughable advice. Stuff like doing gentle stretches, using massagers on your calves to keep them slim, etc. It obviously burns no calories but I think it's probably really helpful mentally. Even if you binge one day, you don't backslide into being like "fuck dieting, I'll never be skinny" because you do all your other weight loss rituals to keep you in the mindset. That's just my 2 cents.
Also I highly recommend getting sucked into the world of Korean and Japanese diet instagrams, they're like the best weeb thinspo. My fave accounts: 93.sooj, hee_can_do_it_2016, diet_ssu, tama_diet, yunnchaas. These girls are METICULOUS about their diets.
You don't need to hold my hand, not when you need it to hold your tablespoon of mayo. Here, let me explain what anyone who has basic comprehension of English would have interpreted my words as.
>How can you help someone that clearly doesn't want help?
I.e., for people who are pathetically stupid: you clearly do not want to listen to any advice ANYBODY has offered you ITT, and by advice I mean perfectly valid advice that people have actually lost weight using
, so why should I, or anyone even bother trying to help you anymore? I might as well be offering it to a wall. (The wall doesn't need it anyway, it has a thinner waist than you do and is ready for bikini season. :^))
Where did I imply, or say that my advice/anyone else's is unhelpful? Where? Contrary to your belief, we actually did want to help you, but you won't listen to/rebut anything anybody will say.
If you think we're so wrong, why haven't you lost weight yet? I even asked you how else people are supposed to lose weight, if not reducing the amount of calories - specifying calories as opposed to grams etc. because you like being so painfully literal - and yet, you still haven't answered. I'm waiting. Go ahead, tell us how one is supposed to lose weight, if we're so wrong.
I LITERALLY JUST told you I wasn't fat or looking for advice on weight loss. I highly recommend you put a bullet in your brain through your eyes, because it's pretty damn clear you aren't using those anyways.>>91763
Heed you own advice and don't get so triggered
the next time someone shits on advice you give.
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It really is quite disgusting. Here's one of the worst I've seen in a gyaru mag a few years back.
Apologies for potato quality
Don't you love it when you lose so much weight that your entire bone structure changes and your vag moves up?
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Close up on this stunning shoop. I don't know who they were advertising to because I don't believe many young Japanese girls want to look like they're hitting their 50s
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>>91886>I highly recommend you put a bullet in your brain through your eyes, because it's pretty damn clear you aren't using those anyways.
You have to be 18 to post here.
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R u ok?>>91906
That's pretty ridiculous. Are the japanese generally aware of all the shooping?
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Where do you buy your j fashion magazines? I'd like to get a few (more fitness oriented ones) out of weeb curiosity and for art references. Ebay? A shopping service ? Where to?
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I might take a look, though I would need international shipping to europe.
I agree with you, but let's go deeper and ask, what makes some people want to eat more calories than others? What makes some people not feel satiety at a calorie intake of a normal weight person? Whenever there is an observable biological phenomenon, then the answer is usually genetics and/or environment.
I mean if you look at some hamplanets they can get up to 400+, 500+ whatever pounds. It's hard not to see something like that and wonder if something is fundamentally broken.
I'm pretty sure genetics is the reason why I'll never weigh hundreds of pounds, because it sure as hell isn't my willpower? I'm not willing myself to not be a fatass every day.
Isn't it just addiction though? It's all a downward slope starting from somewhere normal.
You crave some Mcdonalds, and you get your usual cheese burger, small fries, and a small drink for a while. This satisfies you and keeps you full until your next meal. Then you start feeling like its 'not enough' one day. Maybe you had a light breakfast or something, so you start ordering a Mcflurry for dessert. You start getting accustom to that order, an it's convenient, so you go there every other day. Your meal doesn't feel complete without the Mcflurry.
Then lets say, one day you are feeling RAVENOUS. You didn't eat breakfast and you skipped lunch, and you just want food in you. You order everything that sounds good. A large Bigmac meal. A Mcflurry. An apple pie. And a few chicken nuggets. Sure it's a crazy meal, but you are hungry and you don't care who is watching, so you eat it all in one go. That food gets you nice and full, and makes you feel GOOD. So everytime you go to Mcdonalds, you start getting huge meals like that. Anything less doesn't make you feel full.
And remember, a lot of hamplanets have been fat their whole lives. They were raised on shit food, and learned bad habits early on, so they are desensitized to overeating an huge portions. Asking them why they polished off a whole bag of doritos is probably similar to saying, "Ewwww, she eats a WHOLE sandwich in one go? How can she stomach that?" They just think that once you start, you have to finish the whole thing.
If you plan on cooking a lot of rice, get a rice cooker, I think you can also steam veggies in there. Brown rice is better than white, health-wise, so try it out and see if you like it.
For chicken, I just cook the breast with garlic and onion, I doubt Japanese people really make plain chicken distinct enough to note.
Cooking is mostly just trying out shit, but watching maybe some japanese cooking shows wouldn't hurt.
Japanese rice also freezes pretty well, so you can portion it out and wrap it in plastic, depending on how much you cook at once.
Japanese style chicken meatballs are also pretty delicious in bento, and you can't go wrong with adding tamagoyaki.
Apologies for posting twice in a row, but millet rice is also pretty good, and nutritious (if you don't like brown rice).
Here's the proportions I use: 4 parts rice to 1 part millet (it expands like wild so don't worry about the fact that it doesn't look like much) and 4 parts water.
It's a variety of things such as willpower, delusion, binge eating disorder, a lack of self discipline or a lack of knowledge of how to develop it
It's hardly "genetic". The reasob why you see fat families is the same reason you see poor or stupid families. They drag each other down with poor habits and raise their kids on a diet of cheetos and fatlogic. It's nothing magical.
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There's actually a super handy bento cookbook with easy instructions for cooking newbs, and it has a decent amount of western venti meal plans in I too so you don't have to worry too much about hard to find ingredients. Also the book has charts and tables in it for planning your bentos for out for the week as well as when to start cooking/preparing which part of the bento to maximize efficiency.
Here's a PDF version:http://thebookdownloadfree.blogspot.com/2015/05/download-just-bento-cookbook-pdf.html?m=1
Also check out her website justbento.com for more recipes and links to cute bento hear.
Wow your perception is skewed.
Girl in picture isn't spooky skinny in either image. :/
I think you're just used to seeing girls with 23+ bmi being called skinny.
What country do you live in anon?
In Europe you can use asianfoodlovers.com
This is interesting to me because the magazines boast about the girls being <45kg after the diets/weight loss methods. Western media would call that sickly/too thin for sure, and even the "before" weights like 46~58kg wouldn't be considered fat.
You can easily say it's just their culture, but I really wonder how many girls in Japan/other East Asian countries might suffer from EDs and go unchecked until it gets really ugly/Ash-tier.
>>96392>thick and long midsections and short legs
I always feel so bad when I see this on skinny fat to pudgy girls
it just looks so weird
Isn't 16 just underweight for westerners?
You really are skewed.
Did you just post that without reading anything else in the thread?
or any post after yours
Honestly BMI is bullshit. It doesn't apply to most people, it all depends on your body type how much is 'healthy' for you. It kinda pisses me off that it's such a popular thing to judge people's health on.
It's more important to look at the body, food intake and fat percentage.
I didn't pay much attention to those posts because they didn't have any sources and generally look a lot like broscience, anon.
If you can back up those points properly, I'll concede.
No, that would be 18.5.
16 would look underweight/way too thin on pretty much every western woman.
What's the point? Most BMI charts and percentile expectations have different standards for East Asians.
For an average European women to have a BMI of 16 would put her in the underweight category and she would look too thin.
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Anon, I live in Japan. 16 is considered underweight here as well.
I see seriously underweight girls (a lot more severe than in that ad) quite often in Tokyo, just looking sick af. It seems to me that women are finally starting to do actual sports to stay in shape instead of the same old "I don't eat on Mondays" or "when I feel too full I just throw up" methods of staying thin…
As for why Japanese people are thinner: portion control and weight consciousness.
i've had a lot of asian girl friends get fucked up because their families are like "you're too fat. stop eating. why you not eat? you sick? eat something!"
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i wish i could study eating disorders in japan.
some ED behaviors seem engrained, even normal, in many girls lives. many people think its normal to throw up if you eat to much, or to forget to eat all day.
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what about body type?
I think studies haven't gone as detailed as to compare with geometric body types.
The accepted BMI cutoffs are commonly accepted to correlate to ethnicity, body fat %, and/or body frame size
If anyone is thinking about getting and eating these, don´t.
They taste like shit and are all around horrible. You´re better of being hungry than eating this garbage. Really, it´s not worth the money
American here, I tend find them in the produce section by the prepackaged lettuce and salad bags usually next to the tofu. I'd recommend brand "Shirakiku" as I find it to be the the purest brand free of any additives or preservatives. Though if you don't care about avoiding sodium bicarbonate or potassium sorbate their all pretty much the same, and you can't pick worng.
One thing to note is that some brands mix tofu in their noodles. So if your allergic to soy like me then be sure to check the ingredients on the back.
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Try this app called loser town to calculate your weight lost on specific days! http://www.losertown.org/eats/cal_act.php
western ones are certified trash. but i stock up on aojiru and enzymes when i travel to JP because a lot of those are thinly-veiled laxatives
inb4 ana-chan, i just have bad digestion
>>91228>Genetics? The only thing genetics is going to determine is body shape/fat distribution. If you eat a lot, you're going to be fat. That's it. Calories in, calories out.
The why does Austria eat more calories per day than the US, yet is far slimmer on average?
Many such cases, btw, average caloric consumption by country doesn't correlate AT ALL with overweight percentage. Neither does average sports exercise per country.
Also, ever researched how calories are measured? It's pure voodoo, not science.
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either of two units of heat energy:
the energy needed to raise the temperature of 1 gram of water through 1 °C (now usually defined as 4.1868 joules).
noun: small calorie; plural noun: small calories;
the energy needed to raise the temperature of 1 kilogram of water through 1 °C, equal to one thousand small calories and often used to measure the energy value of foods.
noun: large calorie; plural noun: large calories
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Does anyone have any tips/exercises for getting nice legs, sorta like pic related? I recently started exercising to tone up my body, but I'm kinda lost on how to get the wider thighs, cute/subtly curvy calves and thin ankles. I have a similar body type but my legs and hips are slightly thicker, however I would like my legs to have a nicer shape.
Pic related is Jungyeon from Twice
If you want to gain muscle you'll have to eat more and train legs (lift).
To "tone" them you can eat at maintenance and work out. They'll stay the same size but will have more definition.
Just remember that you'll look like you, not someone else.