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No. 89484
Most of my fetishes aren't possible in the real world and I can only look at in erotic mangas.
Real life porn I use redtube because I've used it forever and I'm lazy. I only really look at dp videos. I also know that xhamster exists.
For erotic mangos I now go to exhentai.org so I can look at the really fucking weird shit. I used to go to fakku or something but the got rid of a bunch of categories I liked so to hell with them.
My weird fetish stuff changes depending on my mood but tags I like
oviposition, tentacles, rape, shota (it has to be very specific. Its not the little boys that get me off, its the dominant motherly figures and the relationship with the boys), cowgirl, lactation, impregnation, bestiality, ahegao, exhibitionism, cheating, bondage, femdom, mind break, incest, drugs,
I'm really indifferent to futa even though tons of people really love it.
I really hate scat. And in irl porn I hate it when they do that thing where they fuck the ass and then spread her cheeks so you can see the inside of her gapping asshole
>fuckingnothankyou.jpg
No. 89501
I don't watch mutch 3DPD porn, but when I do, for some reason it's always lesbian, even though I'm straight.
Besides that, I have been crazy about yaoi for years. Vanilla (preferably detailed and uncensored), tentacles, guro (mutilation, amputation, impalement, and above all, disembowelment), watersports, shota, D/s, orgasm control, asphyxiation, emeto, abuse, sounding, (pseudo)rape, hard vore, etc.
No. 89512
Most of the stuff I like is socially unacceptable because I was exposed to pornography at a very young age. I generally prefer audio stuff like on r/gonewildaudio or MSA threads on /soc/. Mostly listen to verbal abuse, BDSM stuff with dominant males, masturbation instructions, orgasm denial, ageplay and rape-y things.
For 2D, I really like yaoi, petplay, bro/sis incest, teacher/student, rape, tentacles, lactation, cowgirls, mindbreak, ahegao, breast inflation, watersports, cumplay, nippleplay (not nipple fucking, though), humiliation, public play, mild guro (especially with boys), strange insertion, and slaveplay.
Not too into IRL porn, but I do like teacher/student roleplay, choking, grinding/clothed sex, "cutesy" BDSM stuff where the girl is in pigtails, or Facial Abuse shit with heavy degradation. I also like bloodplay. I usually don't go on sites like xhamster or PornHub or whatever, I have a porn blog on Tumblr and just follow blogs that post things that appeal to me.
I don't really like dd/lg, mostly because the word "daddy" (and any parental incest at all) puts me off. I also dislike rimming, futanari, scat, vore, bestiality, diapers, anal (unless it's two guys), pregnancy, furries, bara and BBWs.
No. 89516
I mostly watch things made by kink.com, punished teens, burning angel, sometimes hentai.
I also mostly use pornhub, but also xhamster, xvideos, and hentaihaven sometimes.
I always feel ashamed whenever I do anything remotely sexual. I feel like it somehow taints me and makes me less of a valuable person. I don't think it makes other people less valuable, only me. The only sex partner I've ever had is my fiance, so it's not like I sleep around, and I only masturbate and watch porn before we have sex, so there's no logical reason to feel guilty.
No. 89543
>>89531>it's an exploitative industryTrue.
>it ruins your enjoyment of real sexUntrue.
No. 89551
>>89543>>89545Porn use almost never ruins it for women, but it's a very common thing for guys. Expecting sex to be solely for their pleasure, that women can orgasm from penetration alone every time, anal sex can be done at any time and with no lube, same for vaginal, that every woman with big tits should have at least relatively perky breasts, all vags should be hairless baby pink innies, men are entitled to sex at any time and etc.
It depends on the guy's attitude, but frequent porn usage usually goes hand in hand with the above.
No. 89553
>>89551I don't feel things things are as cut and dry as your post suggests, at the risk of the 'not all men' trope, but I can see get what you're getting at.
A year ago I read a really interesting article about divorced women trying to re-join the dating world after being out of it for 5-10+ years, and finding difficulties getting used to how technology and porn have changed expectations.
Things like "With my husband we had tried x and y on special occasions but now I'm leaning that it's just something that's expected frequently". Obviously those women are dating the wrong men and have been living in vacuums anyway, but it's still food for thought.
No. 89556
>>89553Obviously not every single guy ever. But excessive use of mainstream porn is almost always what causes the above. Assholes have always existed and guys that aren't assholes can be misled by it, but they'll let themselves be corrected.
If you're trying to imply porn makes men more likely to have sex though you're dead wrong. Unless a partner has changed their appearance significantly excessive porn usage is the number one cause of men no longer wanting to have sex with their partners. It also often leads to men trying to pressure their SO into performing certain acts and having it as a requirement because that's what they think sex is like.
I'm not saying every man should never ever watch porn, but as a whole it is harmful to them. Ask any woman who's SO has had a porn addiction. The only ones who regard as anything but a bad influence unless used in moderation and watched with a critical eye are "sex postive~" sjws and men who are terrified of the thought of having to give it up.
No. 89559
>>89528Wow, a company that romanticizes rape and abuse allowed real rape and abuse to go on? Who could ever have predicted this?
BDSMfags are scum.
No. 89573
>>89501>>89524Honestly this isn't that weird. I've heard it's because it involves more cunnilingus instead of some roided up meathead pile-driving a girl coupled with cringey dialog. Much more marketed towards men than women by and large
>>89531All in moderation, anon. I don't watch it because I really do think it poisoned my mind in a way. I'm not religious nor do I have any moral hangups about it, but I just feel "cleaner" not watching it. I usually fap just using imagination or in some cases hentai, which is arguably worse than western porn I guess.
>>89520It's a pretty common fantasy for guys. I can't say I'm attracted to my mom in anyway (for one, she's 60 and not in the best of shape), but I find the scenario presented in porn pretty hot as do a lot of other guys. I think it's more popular with younger men because the idea of an experienced milf who shows you the ropes is really great. Wouldn't mind that irl tbh
No. 89578
I think porn is pretty gross, to be honest. And the extent to which guys will go to defend their rape fetishes and pedophilia is concerning.
Also, like
>>89551 said, porn is bad for their brains and makes them worse at actual real sex, makes them desire it less, impotence, etc. But still, they'll defend it up down and sideways.
Fun side note from a 2002 survey:
>56 percent of the divorce cases involved one party having an obsessive interest in pornographic websites. I've done a lot of research into porn and I've sworn off it for life. You can never really honestly and truly know that the girl you're watching isn't a trafficking victim or being actually raped on camera or some other horrible situation, like not consenting to the release of the video (amateur porn, etc). For example, if any one has watched Deep Throat, they've literally watched a girl get raped on camera. She's done interviews about it. IDK how anyone can put their orgasms above that but w/e.
No. 89580
>>89573okay, but experienced milf =/= mom.
I don't get it.
No. 89594
>>89590Maybe it's further down the list because less women have daddy issues than dudes have mommy issues?
But, it's funny how guys will make fun of girls for "daddy issues" but men get to complain about how their father's presence/absence have had horrible effects on them and it's not treated like a joke. No one says Bob Dylan has daddy issues, instead it's a "father complex".
No. 89599
>>89594>Maybe it's further down the list because less women have daddy issues than dudes have mommy issues? Not that I'm claiming to be an expert on female sexuality, but before seeing that infograph I kinda just assumed as part of common knowledge that many women have daddy issues. Hence screaming papi, daddy, etc during sex.
Maybe it's just a weird sample size, but most girls I've flirted/sexted with online tend to have some sort of daddy kink.
>But, it's funny how guys will make fun of girls for "daddy issues" but men get to complain about how their father's presence/absence have had horrible effects on them Eh I consider that a part of a reason I turned out the way I have, but that's another story. I can't say I've seen anyone make fun of girls for having daddy issues. I don't mean daddy issues in the sense of just having a shitty father that you dislike, but I mean it in some sort of Freudian shit.
No. 89602
>>89599You don't think they have female pornstars say that daddy stuff during porn to appeal to men who want to imagine themselves the father in the situation and fucking their teen daughters?
Also, ever thought that maybe you run across those types of girls because of your own biases?
Freud exclusively applied Father complex theory to males, not females, by the way. But guys say daddy issues to mock lots of girls, women in porn are always made fun of for "daddy issues" but that doesn't stop guys from jerking it off to them. Maybe guys
like imagining girls have 'daddy issues'?
No. 89604
>>89580>>89594I was thinking about it more and ended up skipping through a "Mom" video and I think it has less to do with the porn actress portraying a mom, but more that it's more endearing and relateable I guess you could say. The man in "Mom/Mommy" porn videos is usually an inexperienced virgin nerd whose "mom" wants to lend him a helping hand and show him how to fuck whereas milf videos usually star some ripped sex god smashing his hot neighbor with his 10" schlong
I think more guys want to be taken care of and be subservient in the bedroom than they'd like to admit tbh. I can't say what I would be more as since I've never done it, but I have fantasies on both ends of the spectrum.
>>89602>You don't think they have female pornstars say that daddy stuff during porn to appeal to men who want to imagine themselves the father in the situation and fucking their teen daughters? Always thought this was weird and I'd rather not think of that kek. It does happen though. But dd/gl and that type of stuff is very popular with young women online at least, so it's at least relatively common
>Also, ever thought that maybe you run across those types of girls because of your own biases?I did kinda point that out earlier. The places I hang out online are hardly representative of any population as a whole, so I hesitate to label any group off of the people I interact with
>But guys say daddy issues to mock lots of girls, women in porn are always made fun of for "daddy issues" I wouldn't say it's making fun of them, but more pointing out that they usually have bad relationships with their fathers and many girls do things for the sole purpose of spiting them.
>Maybe guys like imagining girls have 'daddy issues'?Can only speak to myself, but I think it's kinda weird and quite the turn off
No. 89613
>>89604I feel like you're trying to imply these categories (daughters, teens, children, etc,) of porn originated because
women like them. I am saying it is glaringly obvious that it is popular because
men like these scenarios. And I think that says something about men's porn consumption habits.
No. 89621
>>89613Nope I'm not implying that at all. In fact, I'm pretty skeptical of charts like these in general because at least as far as I'm aware they don't publish how they go about collecting their data. If they're going off of registered accounts then that is including a bunch of men roleplaying as women
>I feel like you're trying to imply these categories (daughters, teens, children, etc,)No these categories are primarily consumed by men, I'm not denying this. I may just be ignorant, but I really don't think there are even close to equal numbers of men and women using porntube sites despite what the sites publish. Most porn in general is aimed at men. Most women I know at most read literotica or just follow tumblr porn blogs.
What are we even arguing about again? Many men are attracted to mom genres as opposed to milf categories because it's easier to self insert yourself in there and the actual sex is quite different between the two. In the same vein I think many women are also into the flipside of that with a very domineering patriarchal figure
No. 89626
>>89621I was actually not the anon who asked you originally about milf/mom porn and I don't think we have been arguing, at least, my goal wasn't to argue with you. I am very aware that men won't change their porn habits just because I point out what's wrong with porn. I'm not naive but I do find it interesting to discuss though.
>In the same vein I think many women are also into the flipside of that with a very domineering patriarchal figureI don't think it's so popular as you want(?) to believe, especially considering like you said, most women don't even watch porn, so it's hardly fair to say 10% of men watch milf porn and 10% of women watch step dad porn, thus as many men and women enjoy daddy/mommy issue porn when there's only 1000 women and 100,000 men consuming the porn in the first place. These numbers are of course 100% fabricated, but I hope I made my point.
No. 89629
>>89626>I don't think it's so popular as you want(?) to believe, especially considering like you said, most women don't even watch porn,Well I'm just assuming. I don't claim to know if many do or not. What rough percentage of women would you say watch porn if you had to guess?
Anyways I'd prefer light femdom anyway, so I can't say I give two shits abut whether or not someone that likes a domineering patriarchal figure because I don't want to be that at the moment
No. 89633
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>>89531I won't have any ever so no problem for me.
No. 89637
>>89629There are a lot of studies but here is one statistic:
>69% of boys and 23% of girls have spent at least 30 consecutive minutes viewing Internet pornography on at least one occasionChiara Sabina, Janis Wolak, and David Finkelhor, “The nature and dynamics of Internet pornography exposure for youth,”
CyberPsychology and Behavior 11 (2008): 691-693.
No. 89638
>>89457Are you a girl?
The girls on FacialAbuse don't look like they're enjoying it sis…
No. 89644
>>89643Porn and its Psychological Effects
In 1982 and 1984, Dr. Dolf Zillmann and Dr. Jennings Bryant conducted an experiment with 80 male and 80 female college-age participants.101 These were divided into three subgroups, and each group was shown 4 hours and 48 minutes of media over a six-week period: (1) the “Massive Exposure Group” was shown 36 non-violent pornographic film clips; (2) the “Intermediate Exposure Group” was exposed to 18 pornographic film clips and 18 regular films; and (3) the “No Exposure” control group was shown 36 non-pornographic film clips.
- A direct correlation was noticed between the amount of pornography one viewed and one’s overall sexual satisfaction. Participants from the Massive Exposure Group reported less satisfaction with their intimate partner, such as their partner’s physical appearance, affection, and sexual performance. Researchers concluded, “consumers eventually compare appearance and performance of pornographic models with that of their intimate partners, and this comparison rarely favors their intimate partners.”
- Those exposed to more pornography attached more value to casual sex (i.e. sex without emotional involvement).
- When asked if minors should be protecting from seeing pornography, 84% of the No Exposure Group, 54% of the Intermediate Exposure Group, and 37% of the Massive Exposure Group said yes.
- Porn seemed to condition participants to trivialize rape. Participants were asked to read about a legal case where a man raped a female hitchhiker and then recommend a length for the rapist’s prison sentence. Males in the No Exposure Group said 94 months; the Massive Exposure Group said 50 months (nearly half that of the No Exposure Group).
- Participants were asked to rate their overall support for women’s rights. Both men and women who were in the Massive Exposure Group showed significant drops in support compared to the No Exposure Group. There was 71% male support in the No Exposure Group compared to 25% in the Massive Exposure Group and 82% female support in the No Exposure Group compared to 52% in the Massive Exposure Group.
- When asked how common or popular certain sexual activities were in the general population — activities like anal sex, group sex, sadomasochism, and bestiality — the percentages given by the Massive Exposure Group were two to three times higher than the No Exposure Group.
- The Massive Exposure Group was far more likely to believe women fit the stereotype of the women they see in pornographic films — that is, “socially non-discriminating, as hysterically euphoric in response to just about any sexual or pseudosexual stimulation,and as eager to accommodate seemingly any and every sexual request.”
- Additionally, two weeks after they stopped seeing videos, all participants were given an assortment of pornographic and non-pornographic films to watch in private. Those who were exposed to more pornography were significantly more likely to want to watch hardcore porn.
In a 2002 study, 71 male undergraduate students were divided into 3 groups. Each group watched 10-11-minute video segments: a sexually-explicit and degrading film, a sexually-explicit educational film, and a non-sexual film. Later the men were placed side-by-side with a woman in a seemingly unrelated social experiment.
- Viewers of the sexually-explicit film displayed more dominance and anxiety, ignored contributions of their partner more often, touched their partner for longer periods of time, and averted their partner’s gaze more compared to viewers of the non-sexual film.
- Viewers of the sexually-explicit and degrading film spent longer periods of time averting their partner’s touch and gazing at their partner’s face, interrupted their partner more, advanced to touch their partner more, and made more sexual references compared to viewers of the sexually-explicit film.
In 2005, a study of youth between the ages of 10 and 17 concluded that there is a significant relationship between frequent porn use and feelings of loneliness and major depression.
Gary R. Brooks, Ph.D., describes what he observes as a “pervasive disorder” linked to the consumption of soft- core pornography like Playboy. He mentions five main symptoms of this:
Voyeurism: An obsession with looking at women rather than interacting with them. This can apply to far more than pornography, including any consumption of the “sexuality-on-tap” culture in which we live; media glorifies and objectifies women’s bodies, thus promoting unreal images of women, feeding male obsession with visual stimulation and trivializing other mature features of a healthy sexual relationship.
Objectification: An attitude in which women are objects rated by size, shape and harmony of body parts. Sexual fantasy leads to emotional unavailability and dissatisfaction.
Validation: The need to validate masculinity through beautiful women. Women who meet centerfold standards only retain their power as long as they maintain “perfect” bodies and the lure of unavailability; it is very common for a man’s fantasy sexual encounter to include a feeling of manly validation; it is also common for men to feel invalidated by their wives if they have trained their minds and bodies to respond only to the fantasy advances of their dream girl.
Trophyism: The idea that beautiful women are collectibles who show the world who a man is. Pornography reinforces the women’s-bodies-as-trophies mentality.
Fear of True Intimacy: Inability to relate to women in an honest and intimate way despite deep loneliness. Pornography exalts a man’s sexual needs over his need for sensuality and intimacy; some men develop a preoccupation with sexuality, which powerfully handicaps their capacity for emotionally intimate relationships.
“Prolonged exposure to pornography, it must be remembered, results in both a loss of respect for female sexual autonomy and the disinhibition of men in the expression of aggression against women.” - Dr. James B. Weaver.
No. 89645
>>89644Porn, Violence and Rape
88.2% of top rated porn scenes contain aggressive acts principally spanking, gagging, and slapping, while 48.7% of scenes contained verbal aggression, primarily name-calling.
- In 70% of occurrences, a man is perpetrator of the aggression; 94% of the time the act is directed towards a woman.
- Only 9.9% of the top selling scenes analyzed contained behaviors such as kissing, laughing, caressing, or verbal compliments.
- Open-hand slapping occurs in 41.1% of scenes.
- Sex depicted in porn movies generally focuses on men’s sexual pleasure and orgasm, rather than equally that of women’s (Bridges and Wosnitzer, 2007)
Porn scenes have sexist and racist themes through out. Websites often contain menus where users can select genres of women’s ethnicities, body types, and ages. There are also choices such as “amateur,” “interracial”, and the ever popular “teen” category. Men and women who are anything other than white are represented in stereotypical and demeaning ways.
Studies show that after viewing pornography men are more likely to:
- report decreased empathy for rape victims
- have increasingly aggressive behavioral tendencies
- report believing that a woman who dresses provocatively deserves to be raped
- report anger at women who flirt but then refuse to have sex
- report decreased sexual interest in their girlfriends or wives
- report increased interest in coercing partners into unwanted sex acts (Bridges, 2006) (Yang, Gahyun, 2012).
In a meta-analysis of 46 studies published from 1962 to 1995, comprising a total sample of 12,323 people, researchers concluded pornographic material puts one at increased risk of:
- developing sexually deviant tendencies (31% increase in risk)
- committing sexual offenses (22% increase in risk)
- accepting rape myths (31% increase in risk)
Among perpetrators of sex crimes, adolescent exposure to pornography is a significant predictor of elevated violence and victim humiliation.
In a study of 30 college fraternity members on a small liberal arts campus, the displayed images of women (in posters, screensavers, calendars, pin-ups, and advertisements) were analyzed for their frequency and degrading nature. There was a significant association between the average degradation ratings of the images and the student’s rape-supportive attitude scale (RSA)
In a study of 187 female university students, researchers concluded early exposure to pornography was related to subsequent “rape fantasies” and attitudes supportive of sexual violence against women. Researchers believe pornography consumed at a young age contributes to women being socialized to accept sexual aggression as a sexual/romantic event.
In 2004 data was collected from interviews with 271 women participating in a battered women’s program. Pornography use by their partner significantly increased the odds of women being sexually abused by their abusers. When their abuser used both alcohol and pornography, the odds of sexual abuse increase by a factor of 3.2.
Arrested prostitution clients are twice as likely to report having watched pornographic movies over the past year than a national sample.
Japanese males were divided into three groups and each exposed to different types of home video pornography: a positive rape film (where the female expressed pleasure), a negative rape film (where the female expressed pain), or a consenting sex film. Those who viewed the positive rape film were significantly more likely to state that women could enjoy rape and higher percentages of rape cases are invented by victims.
In a study of 804 Italian adolescents, ages 14 to 19 years old, viewing pornography was correlated to both active and passive sexual violence and unwanted sex.
“Women are represented as passive and as slavishly dependent upon men. The role of female characters is limited to the provision of sexual services to men. To the extent that women’s sexual pleasure is represented at all, it is subordinated to that of men and is never an end in itself as is the sexual pleasure of men. What pleases women is the use of their bodies to satisfy male desires. While the sexual objectification of women is common to all pornography, women are the recipients of even worse treatment in violent pornography, in which women characters are killed, tortured, gang-raped, mutilated, bound, and otherwise abused, as a means of providing sexual stimulation or pleasure to the male characters.” - Helen Longino
Research indicates that 25% to 30% of male college students in the United States and Canada admit that there is some likelihood they would rape a woman if they could get away with it. (Briere and Malamuth, 1983)
In a study of high school males, 50% of those interviewed believed it acceptable “for a guy to hold a girl down and force her to have sexual intercourse in instances such as when ‘she gets him sexually excited’ or ‘she says she’s going to have sex with him and then changes her mind’” (Goodchilds and Zellman, 1984)
“I went to a porno bookstore, put a quarter in a slot, and saw this porn movie. It was just a guy coming up from behind a girl and attacking her and raping her. That’s when I started having rape fantasies. When I saw that movie, it was like somebody lit a fuse from my childhood on up… I just went for it, went out and raped.” Rapist interviewed by Beneke, 1982
The following statements were made by women testifying at the Hearings on Pornography in Minneapolis, Minnesota, in 1993 (Russell, 1993a).
- Ms. M testified that, “I agree to act out in private a lot of the scenarios that my husband read to me. These depicted bondage and different sexual acts that I found humiliating to do…He read the pornography like a textbook, like a journal. When he finally convinced me to be bound, he read in the magazine how to tie the knots and bind me in a way that I couldn’t escape. Most of the scenes where I had to dress up or go through different fantasies were the exact same scenes that he has read in the magazines.”
- Ms. O described a case in which a man ‘brought pornographic magazines, books, and paraphernalia into the bedroom with him and told her that if she did not perform the sexual acts in the “dirty” books and magazines, he would beat her and kill her’
- Ms. S testified about the experience of a group of women prostitutes who, she said, ‘were forced constantly to enact specific scenes that men had witnessed in pornography…These men… would set up scenarios, usually with more than one woman, to copy scenes that they had seen portrayed in magazines and books. [For example, Ms. S quoted a woman in her group as saying:] “He held up a porn magazine with a picture of a beaten woman and said, ‘I want you to look like that. I want you to hurt.’ He then began beating me. When I did not cry fast enough, he lit a cigarette and held it right above my breast for a long time before he burned me.”
- Ms. S. also described what three men did to a nude woman prostitute whom they had tied up while she was seated on a chair: “They burned her with cigarettes and attached nipple clips to her breasts. They had many S and M magazines with them and showed her many pictures of women appearing to consent, enjoy, and encourage this abuse. She was held for twelve hours while she was continuously raped and beaten.”
- Another example cited by Ms. S: “They (several Johns) forced the women to act simultaneously with the movie. In the movie at this point, a group of men were urinating on a naked woman. All the men in the room were able to perform this task, so they all started urinating on the woman who was now naked.”
Non-violent heterosexual porn often becomes ‘too boring’ and leads (commonly) men to seek out more ‘interesting’ and ‘exciting’ types of pornography: often including abuse and rape. (Zillman and Bryant) (Briere and Malamuth)
No. 89646
>>89645Porn and Relationships
[At] a gathering of the nation’s divorce lawyers, attendees revealed that 58% of their divorces were a result of a spouse looking at excessive amounts of pornography online.
According to the Journal of Adolescent Health, prolonged exposure to pornography leads to:
- An exaggerated perception of sexual activity in society
- Diminished trust between intimate couples
- The abandonment of the hope of sexual monogamy
- Belief that promiscuity is the natural state
- Belief that abstinence and sexual inactivity are unhealthy
- Cynicism about love or the need for affection between sexual partners
- Belief that marriage is sexually confining
- Lack of attraction to family and child-raising
According to sociologist Jill Manning, the research indicates pornography consumption is associated with the following six trends, among others:
1. Increased marital distress, and risk of separation and divorce
2. Decreased marital intimacy and sexual satisfaction
3. Infidelity
4. Increased appetite for more graphic types of pornography and sexual activity associated with abusive, illegal or unsafe practices
5. Devaluation of monogamy, marriage and child rearing
6. An increasing number of people struggling with compulsive and addictive sexual behavior
In a survey of women (and some men) who experienced serious adverse consequences from their partner’s cybersex involvement:
- In 68% of the couples, one or both lost interest in relational sex: 52% of showed a decreased interest, as did 34% of partners.
- Partners commonly reported feeling hurt, betrayed, rejected, abandoned, lonely, isolated, humiliated, jealous, and angry.
- Partners often compared themselves unfavorably to online images.
- Partners overwhelmingly felt that cyber affairs were as emotionally painful as offline affairs.
Porn and Sexual Dysfunction
“I have also seen in my clinical experience that pornography damages the sexual performance of the viewers. Pornography viewers tend to have problems with premature ejaculation and erectile dysfunction. Having spent so much time in unnatural sexual experiences with paper, celluloid and cyberspace, they seem to find it difficult to have sex with a real human being. Pornography is raising their expectation and demand for types and amounts of sexual experiences; at the same time it is reducing their ability to experience sex.” – Dr. MaryAnne Layden
No. 89647
>>89646Porn and Addiction
10% of adults admit to having an addiction to online pornography (IFR, 2006).
In a survey of 63 wives of self-identified sex addicts:
- 70% met most criteria for a diagnosis of post-traumatic stress disorder.
- 75% discovered evidence of compulsive or addictive sexual behaviors themselves (as opposed to a planned disclosure on the part of a husband).
- 71% demonstrated a severe level of functional impairment in major areas of their lives.
- Length of marriage at disclosure and number of prior traumatic event exposures were the best predictors increased trauma symptoms.
“[M]odern science allows us to understand that the underlying nature of an addiction to pornography is chemically nearly identical to a heroin addiction.” - Dr. Jeffrey Satinovet
“Pornography
triggers a myriad of endogenous, internal, natural drugs that mimic the ‘high’ from a street drug. Addiction to pornography is addiction to what I dub erototoxins—mind altering drugs produced by the viewer’s own brain.” - Dr. Judith Reisman
No. 89648
>>89643See, for me it increases my insecurity about things because of all the "BIG BLACK COCKS!" shit and so on. I don't want white women growing up 1) Being exploited and abused and 2) Thinking black men are "better" than white men. You can laugh at me but this is the male equivalent to a girl's boyfriend constantly comparing her to other girls.
Not only that, but believe it or not I'm an empathetic person and it kills me inside to see women being exploited like that. I realize I'm a hypocrite for saying this by the way.
No. 89650
>>89648Not really, there is a difference in liking something in fiction and hating the idea of it irl. As you can see above though that concept doesn't exist for many men and porn use makes it less and less likely it will stay that way.
Also tbh all that "bbc" shit is pandering towards men. No one but sizequeens really give a shit about big dicks except for the fact that they hurt and make sex less enjoyable. SJWs are the only women I've ever really seem into it and I highly doubt they're what the average guy is going to want to be in a relationship with.
No. 89652
>>89650What worries me about porn is the propaganda the porn industry is putting out about it being just another "career path" for women. Have you noticed this trend? It started with Sasha Grey, who incidentally claimed a few years ago her ex basically coerced her into doing porn. The idea is to get normal girls into porn, something that also coincides with the whole "alt girl" porn trend ("hey, do porn, it's edgy and subversive!")
Growing up I always thought that men were meant to protect the women close to them. That was what my parents taught me.
No. 89657
>>89648BBC porn is literally targeted at white men. You're the main audience for it.
I read somewhere that men focus mostly on penises in pornography, for some reason. Maybe they're self-inserting, I don't know.
Generally, it just makes black men feel dehumanized, and most white women just aren't interested in the whole "size queen" thing.
No. 89659
>>89652Yeah, same with shows aimed at young teens being nothing but sex and how you're a loser if you're a virgin at 14. The porn industry is a multi-million dollar industry much bigger than google and apple combined. They can bribe and influence whoever will accept money.
"The global market power of this industry is $97 billion, incidentally, just in case 13.3 billion wasn’t scary enough. To put that in perspective? The United Arab Emiraes (where oil is literally cheaper than water), has a GDP of 71.2 billion. If this industry was a country, they’d be able to BUY Egypt. Or Venezuela.
If this industry was a country, they’d be ranked 36th in the world."
http://antiporn-activist.tumblr.com/post/143608791726/tw-discussion-of-child-pornography-bestiality
No. 89660
>>89657Black men don't give a flying fuck so long as they're getting "white pussy". They don't feel "dehumanized" at all, given that they revel in the image half the time.
>>89659The thing is, the Jews have already thought of that and they've constructed a highly potent memetic counter-attack that basically stereotypes anyone opposed to pornography and sexualization as a pearl-clutching "prude". It basically shuts down the debate before it has even begun because nobody wants to be associated with something so comparatively parochial and "out of touch" with the mainstream.
I mean really, I can't be the only fucking person sick of shoe-horned in "steamy sex scenes" in TV shows these days. Surely. I'd much rather see well written dialogue and the like. Rome was ruined by that crap.
No. 89662
>>89652>>89659>>89660"The reality is that women don’t need to look at porn to be profoundly affected by it because images, representations, and messages of porn are now delivered to women via pop culture. Women today are still not major consumers of hard-core porn; they are, however, whether they know it or not, internalizing porn ideology, an ideology that often masquerades as advice on how to be hot, rebellious, and cool in order to attract (and hopefully keep) a man.”
— Gail Dines, Pornland: How Porn Has Hijacked Our Sexuality
No. 89666
>>89664>I'm actually blackI'm honestly just not interested in talking to black people. Your welfare is no concern of mine.
>>89662Yeah, the obsession with anal is a major part of porn creep imo. It scares me a little that so many women claim to be into it.
No. 89667
>>89648Interracial porn is mostly popular with men because it's akin to watching "muh pure white women" being raped and abused by someone who they view as one step above an animal. It's a very racist and sexist genre. Even the whole idea of a girl being blacked implies that she's not "pure" (I dont get this meme because she's in fucking porn).
That being said in the younger generation many teen girls are jumping on the anti-white male bandwagon and constantly dump on white guys on social media and shit. That's pretty disheartening and annoying tbh
No. 89668
>>89666I'm not asking you to care about anything and I don't care about you being "interested in talking to me", I'm pointing out that you're incorrect about something.
Sorry you're so insecure.
No. 89676
>>89657>>89660>>89668>>89671I'm neither black nor a guy but it's both. Black men feel just as pressured or almost more than other men do to have a large penis, but a lot of black men (usually ghetto and absolute assholes all around) take a ton of pride in it and use it as bragging rights.
>>89667What anon said is spot on. It's just another degradation tactic.
No. 89680
Don't really get why people obsess over dicks so much considering all things considered there seems to be very little variation really. The dicks in porn are maybe 8" and most people fall between 5.5" and 7." All things considered not too much of a variation
http://pornmeasurements.tumblr.com/Great blog btw
No. 89683
>>89671>sit there with male friends>white friend asks black friends "So, do black people actually watch BBC porn?">they talk about it>one black guy says it's too animalistic, it doesn't arouse him, plus it puts pressure on them to have large penises because the BBC myth>others agreeIt's not a single isolated conversation, either.
I've also read similar opinions on different platforms complaining that it's dehumanizing and treats black men like they're inhuman.
BBC porn really is targeted at white men with cuckold fetishes. It's not actually relatable to anyone else, or at least that's what I've observed.
>>89674I'm pretty sure on certain topics, some anecdotes actually are more reliable than others. Would you rather listen to an actual person from a specific group when it comes to gauging the opinions of that group, or an entirely unrelated party who literally admits that they are insecure and have personal bias on the topic? Or, more generally, would you rather listen to a teenage stoner's anecdotes when it comes to running a business, or the CEO of a large corporation?
It's not rocket science.
No. 89684
>>89683>I'm pretty sure on certain topics, some anecdotes actually are more reliable than others.No they aren't. There's a reason this is dismissive as conjecture/hearsay in a court of law.
Back to Africa with you.
No. 89685
>>89684This isn't a court of law, though, this is an anonymous Chinese cartoon forum.
Back to /r9k/ with you.
No. 89688
>>89685>This isn't real life, it's an anonymous imageboardNo shit. That means your word is even less meaningful.
>>89686Black women have just got to defend their shitty men, it's like an innate biological imperative for them since they realize they have zero options outside of their own group.
No. 89689
>>89682Yeah I think that's a pretty disgusting double standard tbh. Even so called feminists are body shaming people against them by saying they have tiny dicks.
>>89683Eh makes sense. I was talking to a 35 y/o black guy I have on steam for some reason and he was saying that he was super self conscious with his average size as a teen because of all the memes in popular culture about his dick. He said it's just a leftover stereotype from the days of colonialism which makes a lot of sense. Throughout history the so called barbarians of any society were portrayed as having no self control and as having large dicks. Can even see this with the portrayal of Germanic peoples in Rome
>>89686Agreed. Everyone shut up now
No. 89692
>>89686I get baited by /pol/lution too easily. Sorry, let's get back to discussing pornography.
>>89688It's still far more reliable than yours, all things considered.
I'm not "defending" anyone just because I don't agree with "REEE! FUCKING NEGROS TAKING MY WOMEN!! THE JEWS I'M SO INSECURE" rhetoric, and refuse to dehumanize certain groups based on personal insecurity/anger. Plus, my SO is non-black, so there goes the rest of your argument.
No. 89693
>>89692>far more reliable than yoursNo it isn't. Anyone can manufacture a story about sitting down with friends to discuss something wherein the conversation is flattering to your own biases.
>Plus, my SO is non-black, so there goes the rest of your argument.I'm sure you can get a low value white male. That's hardly having options though.
No. 89698
>>89696And I want proud black women who defend their men's shitty behavior to leave too, but we don't always get what we want.
Now back to the topic at hand. Are there really that many women who "enjoy anal" or is it porn creep? Or a desire to be seen as sexually open in order to attract men?
No. 89699
>>89691Yeah, that's a thing. It's actually scary how fucked up your taste in porn can get once you're "bored" of normal porn. It happened to me when I was younger, and I'm pretty bad now but I guess it could be worse.
There are literally people who are into vomit/scat porn not because of some fucked up trauma in their lives, but because their tastes got more and more warped as time went on and their addiction got worse.
No. 89700
>>89696I want you both to leave if you won't stop. Neither of you have any less right to be here but that doesn't mean y'all should shit up the thread.
>>89698Almost always the latter unfortunately.
“The qualitative study found that anal heterosex appeared to be “painful, risky and coercive, particularly for women”, while males spoke of being expected to persuade or coerce reluctant partners.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/women-being-coerced-into-having-sex-researchers-say-with-persuasion-normalised-9671395.html No. 89702
>>89698Anal is gross and I dont see the appeal of it in a heterosexual relationship. Supposedly lots of girls at my school are into it but i think its just because they assume men like it
t. Male
No. 89710
>>89708>>89705Whoops, meant to quote
>“Anal sex is increasingly prevalent among young people, yet anal intercourse between men and women—although commonly depicted in sexually explicit media—is usually absent from mainstream sexuality education and seems unmentionable in many social contexts,” It's literally more of a thing in porn than real life circles somehow.
No. 89713
>>89712Not her, but you don't think you can progressively condition groups of people to find something erotic with enough exposure?
It's called "porn creep" for a reason, it's a gradual process of exposing people to ever more "subversive" sexual content.
Bizarre how people believe the media can condition women not to want to be engineers or love children but balk at the notion pornography is warping our sexuality.
No. 89714
>>89713I don't think it's impossible, I'm just confused about why and how it's such an oversaturated market.
Who sat down and said "Yes, let's popularize sticking penises in the exit-only area, which carries all sorts of risks unless carefully prepared for with enemas and ample amounts of lubricant"?
No. 89715
>>89712Because it's painful and almost always considered humiliating and a dominating act, even more so then really rough PIV. Everything that comes from porn has to do with degradation and domination. It's also dirty (both literally and figuratively) and something guys get to "convince" their s/o to do.
>>89713and this too
No. 89717
>>89714>Who sat down and said "Yes, let's popularize sticking penises in the exit-only area, which carries all sorts of risks unless carefully prepared for with enemas and ample amounts of lubricant"?Nobody sat down and "thought it out", it was perceived as something subversive, beyond the pale, so it gradually became more and more a feature of pornography as time went by.
The central point I want to re-assert is that plenty of people believe the media condition women to be "feminine", they believe the media conditions lots of other features of society that liberals disapprove of, but say that bringing up an entire generation on hardcore pornography, which is ever-increasingly violent, abusive and "subversive" could warp their sexuality, and suddenly there's a problem.
People on the left have a problem with this, as they don't have sexual ethics beyond bullshit about "consent". So long as everyone consents and it makes your genitals feel good, then it's good for you, supposedly.
No. 89720
>>89715How do you think lesbian and homosexual porn falls into that category of degradation/domination?
Lesbian porn is mainly made with the intent of entertaining a male audience, for example, but without a "male" hand in the picture, does it still carry the same context as universally as anal or BDSM?
No. 89772
>>89638Yeah, I am a girl.
I know they're not enjoying it- I watched the Hot Girls Wanted documentary and they talked to a girl who worked with them and she said they wouldn't let her take breaks and were actually abusing her - and I feel horrible after watching it. But it's the only porn that gets me off and when I'm not watching porn, I have to imagine that I'm being treated like those girls to get off.
I was exposed to porn when I was 8 years old and it was a BDSM french maid scene (I still remember it clearly lol) and I'll be the first to admit that porn has warped my sexuality. It's incredibly harmful for every party involved, even the viewers. That's why I'm disgusted with myself after I watch it, I know how horrible it is.
Sage for blogpost.
No. 89778
>>89772Have you ever tried going cold turkey?
I'm the same guy above who said most of his early sexual experience was with girls who were into that kind of stuff, as well as being exposed to similar pornography.
I'm in the same boat you are anon. But I've more or less given up porn now. I feel better for it.
It scares me to think of girls growing addicted to this stuff, because what if the addiction grows so great you start seeking it out with sketchy men? Or leads to you cheating on someone who loves you but isn't prepared to do those things to you?
No. 89784
>>89702Nah I've talked to a few girls online is masturbate by shoving things in their asses. It's not to please anyone considering the one most into it was a virgin girl in SEA. She said she could cum harder from playing with herself anally
Many genuinely enjoy it
No. 89789
>>89778Yeah, but the longest I've gone without porn was like a month. I won't lie, my orgasms were much better and I didn't feel guilty afterwards but it took me such a long time to get off. I don't even want to watch it, I just watch it when I'm bored or horny out of habit. I'm going to try to stop watching it from here on out, this thread was that final kick I needed.
And I agree with you on the last part. I remember a girl on Reddit said that she actively seeked out guys to rape her - she would purposefully get wasted at parties and lay down in empty bedrooms, go to bars and get wasted while only wearing a tiny skirt and shirt, etc. - and it happened around 10 times iirc. Not surprisingly, she said that she was addicted to porn and that was the only way she could get off - by actually being raped. It was disturbing and I feel like that's the endgoal of porn.
No. 89796
>>89789>And I agree with you on the last part. I remember a girl on Reddit said that she actively seeked out guys to rape her - she would purposefully get wasted at parties and lay down in empty bedrooms, go to bars and get wasted while only wearing a tiny skirt and shirt, etc. - and it happened around 10 times iirc. Not surprisingly, she said that she was addicted to porn and that was the only way she could get off - by actually being raped. It was disturbing and I feel like that's the endgoal of porn.Doesn't surprise me at all. One of my ex's was really into meticulously planned breaking and entering rape fantasies.
I wish women weren't so sexually driven these days, I must admit. I miss female innocence.
No. 89812
I watch porn sometimes because I'm bored, like cam girls or I'll end up reading hentai because I don't really want to do anything and it's such an easy time killer. I don't think my sex drive is very high, but I have periods where I fap like 4 or 5 times a day and periods where I don't even touch myself for like months? Idk.
What I watch to get off differs, and I'm ashamed of a lot of it. But why not get it off my chest and post it here?
Now 3D porn is something I usually watch when I want to get off quickly, so it's usually gangbangs with multiple creampies, or it's something with pee like a girl peeing on a guys dick or a dude peeing into or onto a girls pussy or someone peeing in public places, other gangbang stuff like ona holes and shit is fine too.
For my hentai, I honestly can read or watch anything, but I don't really like vanilla stuff.
So for hentai I literally just:
tentacles, rape, futa, trap, yuri, yaoi, incest, shota (yeah honestly very ashamed of this one), gangbangs.
Like if you've seen a hentai called euphoria, everything but the scat part of that is fine for me to watch. I wish the sex or torture scenes in it were longer though, it's cool. So yeah, everything but scat. Sometimes I think I'm more fascinated than turned on though.
No. 89820
>>89639I have known I'm a submissive masochist since I was like 6 (back then I didn't know the terms and didn't think much of it, I just know this from looking back at it) and saw Aladdin (Jafar is fucking hot) and Labyrinth - I used to imagine being in those fictive worlds, not sexually but because it made me feel warm and cozy. It became sexual after I woke up sexually when I was a teen.
I think that porn has really shaped girls too, because it shows us things that we didn't even know existed. I feel like most of these tumblr nymphets and subs just like the idea of BDSM - somebody who controls you in the exact way you want to be controlled, maybe spanks you a little and then cuddles you and buys you expensive things. Also a lot of teen girls have a shitty self esteem which does often lead to masochism. BDSM porn sucks ass, because it only shows the raw side of it, and none of the safe words and after care, but then again it would be super boring if it did.
No. 90108
>>90105As far as I know there haven't been many studies that focus on written porn, but I can't see it being much different. Even if it somehow doesn't as a whole if it has the same content and overall themes as discussed here
>>89645 it will have the exact same effect.
I used to read erotic fanfiction exclusively when I was younger and I had the same exact problems as everyone else into porn.
No. 90124
>>90108That's not true at all. The problem is that images (especially the consumption of a lot of short videos with different actors) make your brain believe that you're having lots and lots of partner and decrease the reward for actual new ones since it's already flooded.
It can't happen with written media. And that's why you see so few people having issues with it comparatevely to porn.
No. 90126
>>90124I had the exact same problems and the only porn I ever looked at was fanfiction. All the fetishized rape scenes and the normalization of abuse, painful sex, and obligated sex made it seem completely normal to me. The same can happen with media and normal books as well. The scenes in A Song of Fire and Ice and Game of Thrones for example aren't any less fetishized or make you that much less desensitized than porn would.
I'm not saying it's on the same level but again it will have the exact same effects as standard porn if it features violence towards women, trivializes rape, and has the overall tone of women needing to have sex with men for various reasons.
No. 90134
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>>90130I mean like a capable female warrior getting treated like the rest of the cast. Not civilian women getting slapped around for fun or "sexy" catfights and women getting beat up while never covering up their T&A and getting into a stance that an actual fighter or human being in general would be in.
Think Eowyn vs any DC or Marvel character.
No. 90185
>>90181Same. All I can think about is how these women are being used and degraded to sex objects and abused. I don't know how guys get off to that or think it's normal. it's really not… It definitely affects relationships with regular people in a harmful way as well.
I honestly believe the more porn a man watches, the more he is likely to abuse a woman or see women as just objects he's entitled to.
No. 90188
>>90181Me neither. Never have, never will. I might be a bit of a wimp but it's way too graphic for me.
>>90185I steer clear of men who I know watch a lot of porn for this exact reason.
No. 90208
>>90201Semi-related but Richard Ramirez said that his cousin (who fought in the Vietnam war) showed him pictures of the Vietnamese women he raped and killed which was part of what led him to serial killing.
>>90202I'm not that anon but why do you not think so? It's obvious women are treated like sex objects in porn and abused, why would someone viewing and getting off to that not be affected by it? It's been shown that the increase in popularity of anal porn has led to more men forcing anal on their girlfriends/wives and causing them health issues.
No. 90280
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I found the unedited version of OP's pic.
No. 90307
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>>90295No, I think believe she is straight. Porn does influence people.
Her defences we weakened to the point that she was lured by other girls who were too sexy. That is their fault, and the fault of porn, not hers. Not to mention the media and celebrities pushing romantic stories between girls. Oh look, another picture of Taylor Swift and Karlie Kloss hugging each other tightly. Don't look at it, that's my advice. Even watching a few minutes of anime can be enough. Avoid.
It's the same as how 100% straight guys get interested in traps and those god damn qt femboys that parade themselves around like the desperate little sluts they are. They do it to corrupt straight men, not only deliberately, but on purpose.
No. 90310
>>90307TIL watching tayswift hug a girl will make me gay
Jfc
No. 90320
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>>90310Tay Tay may look incredibly beautiful and be literally perfect but she is in fact a demonic succubus sent by lucifer himself.
No. 90348
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>grills in this thread actually care about other grills being "abused" on camera
Who gives a shit? What's done is done. I'm not paying for it, so it doesn't fucking matter. It's not like someone gets re-murdered every time someone watches an ISIS video.
No. 90498
>>90354are you saying women are children anon?
"free" cam sites exist and girls flock to those like flies on dog shit are they being abused too? if you're old enough to get fucked in front of a camera for money you're old enough to take responsibility for your actions.
I don't see how me or any other anon watching porn helps with the "abuse" these women get.
Nobody forced them into porn and nobody is forcing them to stay, your whole argument is people shouldn't masturbate to porn because you don't like it.
No. 90553
>>90280Cba to see how the op was edited
Looks the same to me
No. 90825
>>90780Look in 'gfd' or gentle femdom
That's that you want rather than actual bdsm. I like bdsm but so many people use it as an excuse to be outright violently abusive
Actually /d/ frequently has /gfd/ threads where a bunch of whiny guys complain about how there are no dominant girls in their lives and post cute hentai, if that tickles your pickle
No. 90862
>>90850Not trying to derail, but christ - I hate the BDSM scene so much. I was a part of it for six years (I moved 4 times during that) and I can say for certain that's it the same everywhere. Greasy creepy autists with no strength whatsoever who can't take 'no' for an answer (daddy doms too), submissives who looked like vampirefreaks and tumblr stereotypes who also couldn't take 'no' for an answer, and fat manchildren who watched fifty shades of grey or read rape hentai and thought they were everyone's master. Bunch of dorks who wouldn't know dominant if it hit them in the face.
There was also a study done that showed if you're in the BDSM scene, you're 50% more likely to be raped but I'm on mobile so I can't find it.
>>90857Anon, this has a weird sad undertone. I'm guessing you're a guy? I mean, if you're a girl - I can promise giving a blowjob isn't all that fun.
No. 90874
>>90862>>90850I'm this anon>>90719 and yes most of the community is indeed cancer, but on the bright side of things that makes the competition for a rational person much weaker.
>>90833not super hard
No. 90929
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>>90927>>90927Oh, and I also read guro manga for fun. Shintaro Kago is great, even though it's not always porn focused. My favorite artist is the one who drew this, but I can't remember his damn name. He also drew the infamous 'get well soon' loli.
No. 90930
>>90929I'm really confused by this image.
There's metal balls on her hands with glass embedded into them. Is that so she can attack her attackers with them? Were they put there on the odd chance she scratches herself with them? Is she going to be forced into some kind of a deathmatch with another kidnapped girl where they flail at each other into one of them catches an artery?
Also how did they get the glass into the metal? Have they been glued on? Did they drill holes into the metal structure and place carefully cut glass shards through the holes? Did they heat the glass and the metal at different temps and then hurriedly merge them once they reached melting point?
I don't understand.
No. 90947
>>90850> I guess I'll have to date cute, shy guys and hope for the best.good luck finding one, hiding in groups and gravitating towards corners/pets at parties.
and the classic pretending to check phone but no ones actually texted
No. 93508
>>93495Jfc you really have to ponder the state of the human psyche that some people build up such a tolerance that the only way they can get off is by viewing extreme violence against women.
Porn is ruining the modern male.
No. 93517
>>93516And sites like facialabuse are meant to show how "dumb and stupid" women are.
A man who liked that site once told me it was really difficult for him to respect women after watching that sort of stuff because he felt that reflected our "true nature".
The other presentation is that women are all hypersexual sluts who love rape
No. 93557
>>93555See
>>89644 >>89645 >>89646 >>89647Also "The global market power of this industry is $97 billion, incidentally, just in case 13.3 billion wasn’t scary enough. To put that in perspective? The United Arab Emirates (where oil is literally cheaper than water), has a GDP of 71.2 billion. If this industry was a country, they’d be able to BUY Egypt. Or Venezuela. If this industry was a country, they’d be ranked 36th in the world."
"The reality is that women don’t need to look at porn to be profoundly affected by it because images, representations, and messages of porn are now delivered to women via pop culture. Women today are still not major consumers of hard-core porn; they are, however, whether they know it or not, internalizing porn ideology, an ideology that often masquerades as advice on how to be hot, rebellious, and cool in order to attract (and hopefully keep) a man.”
— Gail Dines, Pornland: How Porn Has Hijacked Our Sexuality
“The qualitative study found that anal heterosex appeared to be “painful, risky and coercive, particularly for women”, while males spoke of being expected to persuade or coerce reluctant partners.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/women-being-coerced-into-having-sex-researchers-say-with-persuasion-normalised-9671395.html No. 94609
>>93517man this is why I realllly don't like most porn,
I mean how can men respect us when they watch "BITCH GETTING PLOWED BRUTALLY IN THE ASS" many times a day, and then they see "real" women and project their disgusting porn fantasies onto us.
No. 94629
>>94609People project sexual fantasies on others all the time lardass doesn't mean they'll actually act on it.
And really you only have pornstars to blame for the image given to you, they chose the "easy" way out. Nobody held a gun up to their head and forced them into porn.
No. 94666
>>94634Lmao no, I'm
>>94632.
Come up with an actual rebuttal or admit you're retarded and multiple people think so.
No. 94983
>>94688Ain't never seen no porn with actual violence with it, sounds like you're seeking it out specifically?
Unless you coun't some light, playful spanking as violence.
No. 94985
>>94983Honestly I count extreme sex acts (hardcore anal, deepthroating, rough fucking in general, fisting, etc) as violence because more often than not the actresses have these things done to them spontaneously without their consent, and they are physically painful acts. Same goes for spanking, striking another person is violence. Even if it is consensual it is still violence and I don't know where YOU look at porn but it's hard to find a clip without at least one of the things I've mentioned.
Even when they are not being abused on video tons and tons of actresses are physically abused behind the scenes of porn. The porn industry perpetuates so much violence, both sexual and physical, and you have to be willfully ignorant to not see that.
No. 94988
>>94985> fistingokay, you must be specifically seeking these out, because I've never seen a fisting video in my life (watching porn just about every day.) So they can't be hard to avoid if that's not a thing you're into
> the actresses have these things done to them spontaneously without their consentUuh, no they don't? That would be illegal. I mean, I don't know what kind of snuff pornsites you visit, but in any kind of semi-serious porn production, this kind of stuff will be all above-board.
> physically painful actsThese are mostly professional actors and actresses who have done that shit for a long time. If you're watching porn where the actress is getting fisted, screaming in pain (which is most likely just acting), then that's because you've specifically searched for that. No porn-site that doesn't specifically cater to that kind of fetish would ever present that kind of video to a viewer under other circumstances, come on.
I'm sure there is a lot of abuse in porn (and a lot of abuse-porn that certain people specifically seek out) but the majority of the professionally-filmed porn you find on mainstream porn-sites is totally not violent and all pretty kosher.
No. 94992
>>94985Maybe in like South America or something, otherwise no, not really.
>>94988This.
I agree that porn promotes unhealthy attitudes towards sex but the actors and actresses in them aren't to blame, they don't have a say in what goes into the '''plot''' etc. And a lot of mainstream hardcore porn is pretty humiliating, to be fair. It needn't be literal humiliation/abuse porn, just shite like dickslapping a girl's face after she sucks your dick, slapping her ass and calling her a little slut etc.
No. 95018
>>94988>>94992These are explicit descriptions of rape so I wouldn't look if you're squeamish about these things.
" Corina Taylor: "When I arrived to the set I expected to do a vaginal girl boy scene. But during the scene with a male porn star, he forced himself anally into me and would not stop. I yelled at him to stop and screamed 'No' over and over but he would not stop. The pain became too much and I was in shock and my body went limp."
Jenna Jameson: "Most girls get their first experience in gonzo films – in which they’re taken to a crappy studio apartment in Mission Hills and penetrated in every hole possible by some abusive asshole who thinks her name is Bitch."
Alexa James: "The first shoot I did was with a man who was probably 40 and he was as thick as a soda can. He held me down and shoved it in me with no lube tearing my vagina. When I started to tear up and cry he flipped me over and continued from behind be so they wouldn't get me crying on film. He pulled my hair and choked me over and over again even when I told him it hurt and I could barely breathe."
Linda Lovelace: "My initiation into prostitution was a gang rape by five men, arranged by Mr. Traynor. It was the turning point in my life. He threatened to shoot me with the pistol if I didn't go through with it. I had never experienced anal sex before and it ripped me apart. They treated me like an inflatable plastic doll, picking me up and moving me here and there. They spread my legs this way and that, shoving their things at me and into me, they were playing musical chairs with parts of my body. I have never been so frightened and disgraced and humiliated in my life. I felt like garbage. I engaged in sex acts for pornography against my will to avoid being killed.The lives of my family were threatened."
Andi Anderson: "After a year or so of that so-called “glamorous” life, I sadly discovered that drugs and drinking were a part of the lifestyle. I began to drink and party out of control! Cocaine, alcohol and ecstasy were my favorites. Before long, I turned into a person I did not want to be. After doing so many hardcore scenes I couldn’t do it anymore. I just remember being in horrible situations and experiencing extreme depression and being alone and sad."
Alexa Milano: "My first movie I was treated very rough by 3 guys. They pounded on me, gagged me with their penises, and tossed me around like I was a ball! I was sore, hurting and could barely walk. My insides burned and hurt so badly. I could barely pee and to try to have a bowel movement was out of the question. I was hurting so bad from the physical abuse from these 3 male porn stars."
Jessie Jewels: "People in the porn industry are numb to real life and are like zombies walking around. The abuse that goes on in this industry is completely ridiculous. The way these young ladies are treated is totally sick and brainwashing. I left due to the trauma I experienced even though I was there only a short time."
Genevieve: "I had bodily fluids all over my face that had to stay on my face for ten minutes. The abuse and degradation was rough. I sweated and was in deep pain. On top of the horrifying experience, my whole body ached, and I was irritable the whole day. The director didn't really care how I felt; he only wanted to finish the video."
Jersey Jaxin: "Guys punching you in the face. You have semen from many guys all over your face, in your eyes. You get ripped. Your insides can come out of you. It's never ending."
Elizabeth Rollings: "I didn’t want to feel the pain of penetration from an over average sized man, being told to freeze in a position until the camera man was happy with his shots was very painful. I had peoples body fluids forced on my face or anywhere else the producer pleased and I had to accept it or else no pay. Sometimes you would get to a gig and the producer would change what the scene was supposed to be to something more intense and again if you didn’t like it, too bad, you did it or no pay."
Lucky Starr: "I was worried about my first anal scene for quite a few days … then the big moment arrived. It REALLY hurt! I almost quit and said, "I can’t do this". When it was all over, I was so happy and relieved I was able to do it…"
Ashlyn Brooke: "I honestly felt that if I had to have another strange man in my face, his hands (God knows where they've been all over me) him calling me his baby and having to exude some sort of forged passion for the world to see, I probably would have exploded. And what would have been stuck to the walls would have probably been nothing, just pieces of skin, bone, the brain of a robot, and what would have been left of what would have existed once as a huge and warm heart."
Roxy: "After only 30 movies I caught two sexually transmitted diseases. Herpes, a non-curable disease and HPV, which led to cervical cancer where I had to have half of my cervix removed. Porn destroyed my life."
Anita Cannibal: "Yeah, there are a lot of cover-ups going on. There is a lot of tragedy. There are a lot of horrible things."
Tamra Toryn: "As for myself, I ended up paying the price from working in the porn industry. In 2006, not even 9 months in, I caught a moderate form of dysplasia of the cervix (which is a form of HPV, a sexually transmitted disease) and later that day, I also found out I was pregnant. I had only 1 choice which was to abort the baby during my first month. It was extremely painful emotionally and physically. When it was all over, I cried my eyes out."
Jessi Summers: "I also did a scene where I was put with male talent that was on my no list. I wanted to please them so I did it. He put his foot on my head and stepped on it while he was doing me from behind. I freaked out and started balling; they stopped filming and sent me home with reduced pay since they got some shot but not the whole scene."
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No. 95029
>>94988Good job cherry picking the least common one of my examples because you can't defend the fact that women are anally, vaginally, and orally violated and raped in most porn clips.
Just because rape is illegal doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Seriously, what kind of logic even IS that? It's like denying someone was a murder victim and trying to say they committed suicide because "lel murder is illegal nobody would actually do that"
I can pull up a random video from any porn site and with almost complete certainty I can guarantee you it will contain at least one violent sex act. You've become desensitized to think that things like rough anal, deepthroating, facial abuse, etc. are normal sex acts but they are not. And with a little less certainty but still a pretty damn good amount of proof from statements by those within the industry, I can also say that this violent sex act you will see in the clip has a very big chance of being nonconsensual.
I'm not the one who looks at porn here. I do not "go searching" for violent porn because it's literally right in front of my eyes. I can see it without even looking for porn at all. Hell, even movies and TV shows are becoming less and hesitant to show physical and sexual violence (or at least imply it) and show that as something that's romantic, cool, and desirable.
Mainstream porn is NOT kosher. Mainstream porn is abusive, full of violence and rape. That's how the porn industry operates, it is built on the abuse and degradation of women just like all sex work industries are. Even if you try and fool yourself into thinking the actors in it nowadays are empowered and have choice, you're going to be forced to see the truth eventually.
No. 95031
>>94992>>95018It's really sad. A lot of these women think porn is glamorous, but they are putting themselves in harms's way and will be treated less than human. Women need to stop doing porn. Seriously. They need to love themselves.
A lot of media makes porn out to be empowering, but it's the absolute opposite. Men respect you even less… and you end up in pain, probably turning to drugs or alcohol.
No. 95034
>>95029>I'm not the one who looks at porn here. I do not "go searching" for violent porn because it's literally right in front of my eyes. I can see it without even looking for porn at all. Hell, even movies and TV shows are becoming less and hesitant to show physical and sexual violence (or at least imply it) and show that as something that's romantic, cool, and desirable.Good points. One of the main reasons I couldn't sit through more than 3 seasons of Game of thrones. A lot of the scenes include graphic groping/rape scenes against women. people want to defend it by going 'well some guy got chopped in half by an axe'
yes, how many guys are chopped in half by an axe irl compared to actual rape? The more you show how 'normal' rape is, even on a fantasy tv show, the more desensitized people become. The worst are the people are read the books and told me a lot of those rape scenes don't even exist in the novel forms, HBO added it for more 'views.' Men are disgusting.
No. 95036
>>95034Careful anon, you'll
trigger the robots and they'll start shitposting about straight women are the ones that love graphic rape fap material.
No. 95037
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>>94985Men have become so desensitized to violence against women in porn that they think such hard and rough sex acts are normal. It's not normal to just penetrate a woman anally without any kind of preparation. It's not normal to slap her or gag her with your penis. it's not normal to pound into her painfully or come on her face. It's actually scary and I feel bad for straight women who have to deal with men who watch tons of porn, as men who watch porn is considered normal for some reason. They then project their porn fantasies onto their girlfriends or wives and it just goes on from there.
No. 95039
>>95034Share your feelings on GoT, the TV series I mean, it's gratuitously violent and over-sexualized even beyond the content of the books.
You can't say this though as you get people descending on you telling you you're just a puritan or whatever. Even if you'd just rather a show had more well written dialogue than softcore porn or gore porn. Unfortunately women defend this stuff as much as men do.
No. 95045
>>95039Duh anon don't you know you're a huge prude if you don't wanna see someone forcing a cock inside someone with blood coming out? Especially knowing that it was added solely for men to fap to and that's exactly what they do? We're just doomed to boring pathetic sex lives.
>>95043But not having another rape scene to fap to is completely contradictory to their audience's enjoyment, and we all know what's most important to tv producers.
No. 95047
>>95039I'm always surprised how many people defend the show, especially women. I guess it's gotten so mainstream, people don't want to be left out and force themselves to watch it. I was victim og sexual assault as a teen and too many things about that show rub me the wrong way, especially how lightly rape is. and omg 'have another boob shot for reason!' and just in general all the abuse and violence against women. i tried to get into it cuz I wanted to discuss it with my friends too, but I just couldn't. I really liked the story and politics, but just not everything else.
apologies for mini rant/blog. I Just can't into GOT, even though I really liked a lot of the characters.
No. 95056
>>95049I know, that's what I was saying. I was agreeing with anon about being called a prude for it. The reasoning is still the same, men fap to it and hate anyone who even hints about lessening it. So women who want to fit in and be "cool" hate them too. Same with all sex positive stuff.
>>95054It got pushed by the porn industry and they bribe the media. Now there's a huge demand for it. It's as simple as that.
No. 95081
>>95080>don't give a shitI wish, they say they don't care or watch it for that, but make even a tiny hint about thinking it's unnecessary and you'll get mobbed.
>HBO added it for more "views"That alone proves what the average GOT fan is like.
No. 95204
>>95188He flays people alive, he lets his dogs eat babies…
The dude who plays him isn't even good looking. Hell even Jorah is more attractive.
Don't make excuses, they like him because of his behavior, not in spite of it.
No. 95224
>>95207jesus christ he is so hot in misfits. I think I'm attracted to timid guys that have outbursts of humor and badass stuff. Like, you could over power him in bed and at the last minute he fucking rocks your world with a cute smirk.
I'm not sure why lesbian is at the top of the chick list. I mean I know a lot of people that have wanted to do it to see what it's like but no one who is full on fantasizing about it unless they are lesbians. Like I always thought I'd be bi but the second I was single and girls hit on me … I just could not bring myself to it. Just not into it.
I'm personally really into forced deep throating. But I need to tap when I feel like I'm gonna puke. Nothing ruins the mood like puking. It's funny to see guys freak out and feel so bad and sorry that they might have possible hurt you. Very cute.
My actual fantasy are unattainable. I'm really into aliens and sentient robots. Like I would love to be in a loving cute relationship with one where the sex is amazing. I told my boyfriend this, because he showed me the movie mega mind. He just thought it was cute and was glad I could share something so embarrassingly personal with him. Now I'm his little alien girl and hes my robot! I'm happy as a clam.
No. 95227
>>95207Oh shit, it's the two best boys. So different yet I loved both of their characters and looks in The Misfits.
I am still so fucking salty about the afwul, TERRIBLE direction this series went. Why did they do this to me. Why did they ruin it.Great taste Anon.
>I'm not sure why lesbian is at the top of the chick list.Because it is about female pleasure, with no dicks involved. I quite like it a lot, but I find most of the lesbian porn to be very disappointing as it is mostly aimed at men and their desire.
>Now I'm his little alien girl and hes my robot! I'm happy as a clam.That is so cute Anon!
But I think many, if not most fantasies are unattainable. Either because it is technically or physically impossible, or because it will never work the way it does in your fantasy (like rape/incest stuff) or because you like it as a fantasy, but wouldn't really want to live it out in real life (like the lesbian stuff for example). That is what makes them fantasy, and so appealing.
No. 95228
this seems to be pretty unusual but I really like lolicon.
sort of the same situation as
>>89484 but the little girls don't do anything for me, it's the dominant man figure, and it's the best when it's not an old dude but a twenty or thirty-something doing it with the young girl
it's hard to find it in 3d porn because you get these gross looking teen girls with pigtails screeching "daddy!!!!!" and it's a huge turn off
but for 3d I usually just watch gay porn or any solo female where whatever they're doing looks like it would feel good
No. 95264
>>95224You might like JJ from skins, timid and funny.
not badass though
No. 95351
>>95349There's too much horrifically brutal black on white crime that receives absolutely no media attention (Wichita Massacre, Zebra Killings, Knoxville Killings) for me to give much of a fuck if I'm being honest.
I don't agree with what he did, but black people have killed something like 50,000 white people in interracial murders since the 1960s. Those numbers are congruent with low level guerilla warfare (only a few thousand died in the troubles in N. Ireland).
No. 95356
>>95351And millions of women have been killed by men in the past few decades. By that logic, should a woman go into a church and start gunning down all the men she sees?
Also, whites used to disproportionally kill blacks, especially before 1940. Again by the same logic, wouldn't it be appropriate blacks (supposedly) killed so many whites in retaliation?
>Wichita Massacre, Zebra Killings, Knoxville KillingsOf those, only the Zebra Killings were racially motivated or racially targeted.
No. 95368
>>95356>Also, whites used to disproportionally kill blacks, especially before 1940. No they didn't, in the post-bellum south the KKK killed about 3,000 people, roughly around half of whom were white (they were a vigilante organization first and foremost). That number is dwarfed by the number of black-on-white murders according to the DoJ from the 1960s onwards.
>Of those, only the Zebra Killings were racially motivated or racially targeted.I don't think you torture and systematically humiliate people in that way unless you hate them. There's no pecuniary benefit to any of it.
And the Zebra Killings were one of the most prolific racially motivated string of murders in American history, yet nobody has heard of them. That should tell you enough. Likewise with the various crimes Black "Hebrews" have been implicated in.
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>>95368Dude in that Black Hebrew video is Sara Suten "Seti". His mother is white, lol.
Just shows how fucked up relationships between black men and white women are that they produce that kind of thing.