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Such a nice idea, thanks nonnie
Something that's helped me with my Youtube habit on desktop is getting the addon "unhook" which gives you the option of removing the sidebar next to videos and hiding the home screen suggestions. It's kind of the same idea as putting your phone on black and white, you can still use it, it's just less addictive.
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Accessibility > Display & Text Size > Color Filters
I think it's upposed to make it less stimulating to waste time on- I also inverted my colors, looks super dark and ugly af, ty anons
Anyone have problems with constant youtube/streaming in bg 24/7? I can't feel "normal" and do something unless I have junk media playing in the bg at all times (I live alone and have for years), can't listen to legitimately enriching media because then I concentrate on that instead of whatever task Im trying to (badly) do
I use an app called Freedom that blocks websites. It works well when I turn it on but if I don’t use it I spend around 7-8 hours a day on my phone. Seeing screentime makes me cringe but I get so distracted reading the news, checking my email or using my phone to read. And having unlimited data on my phone means I can download or view whatever I want, too. >>837850
Lolcow looks awful in greyscale, this will probably help me
Also it's important to focus on what you want to do instead with your free time, instead of feeling like you're denying yourself something.
I want to be able to concentrate on
a watching a movie with no distractions, reading an irl book again. Picking up language learning again.
Some light exercise?
I've been surfing a lot despite grey scale but I'm going to have a screenfree evening today. Baby steps!
I wanna try detoxing, maybe limiting just my internet connectivity in general. but maybe at one point minimize overall screen time. i don't think i'd be able to fully commit. i love video games and music, and the only way i can find new music is through the internet. like, the internet in general has made it very easy for me to obtain free stuff and struggle less as a poorfag with no local IRL friends.
if i reduce my screen time i'm probably going to have the urge to leave my house more often (and potentially consoom, which i want to avoid spending). the neighborhood i live in is a giant cul de sac surrounded by highways, not really much of a nature walk. and the people i'm closest to have all left the state, and my family members live about an hour away.
i think i'll stick to focusing on limiting internet connectivity, like treating browsing like a grocery list, obtain list of things i want and i'm done for the day/week. no catching up on livefeeds or anything, which i've slowly started doing already so i'm on the right track.
i think i'll work on sewing, i recently obtained a handy stitch. also try to get into golf… probably learn some dances, and have the motivation to deep clean my house, compose some music, maybe try to make some local friends??
Sure, it can be enough. Why be satisfied with just "enough" though? Makes no sense. Indulge while you can. Tomorrow may not bring the same opportunities.
t. civil war took me by surprise
nta but I like to put on study music or soundscape ambiences in the background to focus, but I use youtube. This means I could be tempted to look at other stuff on there.
Does some know a good free alternative for streaming such music/background sounds?
spotify is the best i've ran across. there's a few mods out there that can block ads if you want to use the desktop version or smartphone app on the go.>>839130
i've been using it for over 2 years, no issues with my 7+ year account so far.>>839150
i think there are options you can set for your phone, depends on how old the phone is though, that you can set daily limits on certain apps to use, via the Digital Wellbeing app. i have an LG G8 with these options.
Thanks nonnies, I'll try Spotify. Which adblock do you use with it, does it work on android?
I would be okay with paying for a good service but wanna try it out first.
For Android, get this apk: https://forum.mobilism.org/viewtopic.php?f=1332&t=4325145
You'll have to delete the Spotify app installed before installing this one, but it works.
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this is basically an iPod but connects to your Spotify. I'm tempted to get one, it has really good reviews!
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What are some applications I can use for windows 10 that limit my screen time. When I said I wanted to do the family account thing, my techy uncle told me many times about how this would 'reset' my computer or something, and just told me to measure it myself, but I can't do that. What application can I get to alert me about my screen time usage, and notify me when I've gone over my limit?
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I think I've reached the end of the internet. There is really nothing left for me to see online anymore, I keep coming back hoping to find something interesting but I never do.
I've had success with my now gray and boring phone. I rarely use instagram and youtube these days. Still using LC too much so will have a day off (block it) tomorrow.
>>839669>paying 100 usd to not look at your phone
have some self respect
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I went to my local dollar store and purchased some word search and sudoku books. Also bought some adult coloring books, and used puzzles from the thrift store. These are good low-effort activities for people who have no motivation to start any other hobby at first due to fried attention span.
Same. I keep going on 4chan, because it's still active and not completely controlled by corpos/overrun with ads/(overtly) stealing my info, but it's mostly either bots or the same scrote retards who infect my brain with their mental illness
I'm just addicted to the imageboard format at this point, and because the "culture" affected me as a teen… I'm going to be 30 and still on 4chan if I don't actively try to stop it
NTA but data cleansing and organizing files is so satisfying. I love sorting things out like that for easier browsing. The other day I got rid of 30GB of files.
Have any anons tried doing paid gigs like taskrabbit to get out and do something? I'm thinking about throwing down the $25 and getting to work and getting paid to do them, but I just don't wanna be working for other people all the time.
My town is so boring. I recently tried doing something fun that wasn't using the internet and it cost money. $5… but the more I want to do IRL things, those funds adds up, along with gas I have to pay to get to these places. I live in a small apartment.
Like, I understand why some people just decide have children, because in many places, there's nothing to do IRL that doesn't cost money. Obviously I'm not gonna plan on having a child any time soon because of course they're expensive, some people just don't think that through hard enough… lmao
There's a bar nearby that does free karaoke nights once a week, but even the fact I'm going there I have to drive and probably will want to buy a meal or some water while I'm there, I want to avoid consuming.
I'm just so stumped. Having a computer and homebrewed consoles is unfortunately one of the least expensive lifestyles I could have. My internet bill is $45. Why is the real world so materialistic and expensive? Ugh. Like, even if I made friends, they'd want to do things that would require me to spend.
Yeah, it sucks. I haven't really figured out a way to avoid just consuming even when I go do stuff that's technically free, and when I go out I feel like I just blow a bunch of money. The library can be nice because you can pick up a bunch of books and just read while you're there, even just hauling my laptop there and doing what I usually do but in the library can be a nice change of scenery. I hike and take walks regularly too, but it's annoying that those feel like the only two things I can do outside the house for free.
A few of my friends take advantage of things that normally cost money but which they make free for a night to get new customers, like life drawing classes, which can be fun, but I feel like if you want to do something with other people you have to spend money. I get that venues and places have to earn money somehow, but it's such a pain because I feel like half the time I'm at work making money, and the other half of the time I'm spending it on unnecessary, fleeting things. It just feels like such a hassle.
How about hobbies that are practically free or low cost after an initial investment or very low cost per hours of enjoyment? Here's some ideas:
-reading books: pay one or two euro per book at the thriftstore or used book store and you get hours of use out of it.
-Biking or yoga/stretching is basically free after the initial investment of a bike or yogamat.
-Baking or cooking, yes costs money but you're spending money on food whether it's your hobby or not anyway.
-Sewing, it costs money but you're spending money on clothes anyway.
-Geocashing, you only need your phone.
-learning a language with free (pirated)
-gardening. Has some initial costs on tools and seeds but is pretty lowcost if you collect your own seeds to re-sow. Look into garden allotments if you don't have a garden.
-volunteering, especially something like volunteering at a shelter to socialise cats or something could be really fun
-journalling or writing
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some days i dont have the attention span or energy to even look at my phone, i could spend the entire day just lying in bed or staring at the ceiling doing nothing except having a blank mind. i can think of things to do, but i just think "whats the point" and continue doing nothing. later i think of how much i could have accomplished if i just worked on anything, even reading a book… then other days i feel like i absolutely inundate my brain with surfing instagram, tiktok, youtube, lc, etc until my brain is totally crammed with useless stimuli, its like a junkfood binge for my brain…i really want to heal from this and find more satisfying ways to spend my free time. i read and journal sometimes but i daydream of a version of my life where i live in a cottage with no internet and i just read and write and garden all day and appreciate my life and live in the moment, lol. i want to try a tech "cleanse" and see if it helps my attention span. (im also diagnosed adhd) also i realize being on lc is a paradox to this whole ideal but has anyone here had any luck with any of this?
good luck everyone <3
The younger ones drank and went to pubs a lot. Pubs never used to be completely unaffordable, the price of buying alcohol wholesale today is the same as buying the same amount of alcohol at a shitty bar. So they'd go out drinking at least twice every week. At least here in New Zealand. You literally cannot do that now because beers are $7 each.
Once they have kids they still went to pubs but didn't spend as much time there. Then once their kids left home they'd move onto the more older, sports bars and frequent more often. The boomers are now the last people in that habit. The poor fuck ups that make up the other section of bar frequenters just can't afford the alcohol prices anymore.
A glass/handle was $5 at a cheap pub last year, which would be about 3Eurobux, and went up to $6.50 NZ after Covid. There's a lot of alcohol tax here and there's lowered demand now the boomers are starting to retire/die, so the prices have gone up to compensate.
Most normies now just buy a box and drink in a garage.
But the point remains that drinking back in the day everywhere used to be a cheap form of entertainment. Before TV and the internet, many people would knock off from the factory, have a few drinks at a pub and talk shit, then go home.
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I made a big mistake downloading apps on my phone again thinking I could handle them. It's scary how quickly I get sucked in and can waste hours scrolling through apps compared to desktop.
Smoke illegal drugs, wageslave, make kids, suck up their country’s resources dry so the future generations can’t have any of those sweet, sweet benefits, be colorblind, have eating disorders in the 80s, go to concerts, do drugs and drink a lot, rollerblading and hiding sexual activity from parents, books and comics, go to parties, just wanted to grill goddamn it
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i don't use any social media much, except twitter where i mostly just check gaming related news and follow some artists. but man, i think i am addicted to tiktok. i can just scroll literally all day. sometimes i get distracted from what i'm doing and just start scrolling for hours. a while ago i accidentally cleared the cache and it logged me off and i couldn't remember my password so i went a whole week without it because i was lazy to password reset. i had the lowest screen time in my life that week fr. i don't even use my phone much at all otherwise.
it's so hard to uninstall that goddamn clock app because it feels like if i'm not on it i will be missing out on something, plus i see so many educational videos and book recommendations too. i found so many great plant and gardening tips there.
i am going on a 2 week vacation soon and i won't have internet access for the most part so i am really looking forward to detox from the internet and everything.
I never use tiktok and I can tell you that it's possible to find book recs and plant advice elsewhere.
The struggle is real though, all those sites and apps with their delicious info and instant gratification makes it hard to stay away.
I'm actually envious that you will be on vacation somewhere without internet, in the past when I have been on those it's been great for clearing up my brain and be able to focus on the now.
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Thanks op! I think this thread could be really beneficial for a lot of people. I noticed I've increasingly gotten myself sucked into technology so much I don't have any real hobbies anymore and it's beyond frustrating. I could browse the threads here for hours just reading bullshit. I think now that I personally don't see any interesting cows it's died down a bit, but I immediately substitute it with scrolling through instagram and playing video games (though I'm not too upset about playing games, I've always wanted to play the really fun ones from back in the day and I finally have that opportunity). There are so many things I could be doing in the meantime like improving my art, which I haven't done consistently in over 2 years even though I constantly think about how I should. I wanted to learn to sew, I wanted to learn about jellyfish, and I did absolutely nothing because I'm too busy playing on this STUPID FUCKING PHONE.
I downloaded tiktok out of curiosity and though I didn’t get addicted, I could easily see why people would. So glad it wasn’t around when I was younger.
In terms of books I use goodreads and storygraph to find recommendations. Goodreads recommendation system isn’t great as it seems to work by suggesting books read/highly rated by people who have read the same book as you. Often these will be totally irrelevant to your interests. However, if you follow people with similar tastes (find them through reviews of your favourite books) it’s a good resource.
Storygraph is better in that the website categorises things very well and can make better recommendations on the precise type of books you are interested in. New users can import their data from goodreads so it’s easy. I really like it.
I think both websites would yield better results that tiktok and as they’re both simplistic they’re not very addictive. I never find myself spending more than a few minutes on them a couple times a week even though they’re among my favourite websites.
I watch YouTube videos about books (and other subjects) while I’m doing chores so I don’t feel like it’s wasted time. Making that association helped me stop procrastinating by scrolling through YouTube when I should’ve been doing other things. Also makes chores more appealing.
The worst thing about internet addiction is trying to do normal things and "forgetting" how. Anybody else get that weird discomfort when you try to just exist without a screen in front of you? I've been trying since before covid to reduce my internet time, sometimes going as far as to box up my computer, but I always come back to it. I do art as a hobby and I'd still like to upload it somewhere so I can't fully pull myself out of the internet. I would leave it all behind if I could though, it would be the best thing for me at this point. I deleted all my social media except pixiv, which I haven't used in months, but of course lolcow always sucks me back in, even though this website is so dead now. I have a feeling that the real problem is within, I've been depressed since I was a teenager, and I've been terminally online for about a decade now, so I think this is just my way of coping. When I was doing really well a few years ago my internet usage was much less restricting on my life, I actually enjoyed the things I did online and had no problem living offline. In a way it feels like there's nothing left for me online yet I keep coming back everyday. I start college in a month so I'll have something to do with myself, right now my life is kind of in a state of limbo and maybe that's why I'm feeling so shitty. Sorry for retarded rambling, this thread came at a relevant time for me
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I spent a full year in my bedroom, spending 14-16 hours a day on my computer. Only going out once a day to buy a coffee from the coffee shop.
Then around December 2020 I took a crowbar to my computer and smashed it into many pieces. Then I took a hammer to my smartphone. I went to the store and got a $20 dumbphone to do me.
I spent the next few weeks pacing the house and basically detoxing. It didn't take long for my attention span to return, I was able to easily read books for long periods at a time after a few weeks. I found myself other hobbies, got out working again and reorganized my life.
I still browse the internet, but now from the public library around the homeless, the old and the special needs. Funnily enough, with a total of three months completely spent offline, I didn't feel like I missed anything. It's strange, when you're addicted, the internet feels like the most interesting thing with constant new content. But when you step away you realize how repetitive and samey it all is.
Anyways. I'd recommend anyone that was in my position of total NEETdom and isolation to just do it. Just make the jump. It's done in two seconds, there's no taking the action back and you're forced to do something else. What do you have to lose? Just open the case and start smashing the components. Smash your smartphone. It works.
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One of my worst habits is booting up my computer in the morning. After a few hours of surfing I start to get a headache and what feels like "brain pollution". My brain feels like it's rushing but also I have no energy to really do anything. It's hard to explain, but it's like the screen just sucks up all my energy. The only thing I can do to feel better is stare at the wall or read a trashy book that requires little mental capacity for a few hours.
Nta but it makes sense that most of us in these days of social media suffer from it.
In Jujutsu Kaisen there is a special move called Infinite void where the enemy is overwhelmed by info from the entire universe. It paralyzes them. I think about that sometimes.>>865318>But also since I deleted Instagram temporarily I was “punished” by having my engagement go way down (I post art on there sometimes and no one is seeing it now
Damn what, are you saying instagram does that on purpose?
Also how do you like having a dumb phone, can you still use maps and camera or did you have to go totally analog?
i barely use my desktop and laptop anymore, but i'm mostly on my phone. however, i did pick up teaching myself how to skate, but that's only 15 to 25 minutes of my day i go out. besides that, i'm still connected via music apps and youtube videos and some social media. i'm starting to get bored of discord and tiktok.>>861691
one thing that helps me not to use these social media apps so often is to not organize them or put them on your home screen. basically if you wanna get to an app, i'll have to scroll through the other apps i have. i'm less compelled to check them for that reason.>>850656
those people don't really think things through lmao
I don’t have it yet, I lost the eBay bid on the one I was trying to get. The type I want (light phone) is like back ordered until October and impossible to get, too much demand.
I can’t imagine any other reason why my engagement would go down, I didn’t deact my account and I was still using the desktop version everyday to heavily send dms to my friends and watch stories. I just didn’t shitpost the way I usually do. Try to convince me now these fucking companies care about your “mental health” smdh
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That's it, I'm going to stay away from the farm, social media and news for the rest of the day. I need some real rest, not info overload.
Sewing is fun and you get cute new clothes out of it, and it's very good for training patience (when you start out you most definitely will fuck up your seams multiple times and have to sit and unpick that shit for hours.). I'd recommend watching how to set up a sewing machine just because it's easier and maybe watching a few tutorials for beginner patterns and after that you can just rely on books for patterns or draft your own (mostly easy unless you want very construction heavy clothes).
I recommend the channel made by yaya because they make cute wearable clothes and have upcycling videos and ideas, if you already have a sewing machine lying around with spare shirts maybe you'll even be able to start straight away! I enjoy getting compliments on clothes I made myself, it feels nice.
If not sewing, my friend recently picked up punch rugs and she is enjoying it, she said it's pretty easy to pick up and she made me a cute sonic coaster. Hope this helps, anon!
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When I have endless free time (for example, summer break) I'm glued to my phone, it can get to +10 hours of use. It's honestly scary. I feel exactly like this, so useless and brain-fogged >>864425
Even when I'm on classes (they're virtual) I'm not paying attention to them and just lurk on forums and social media. I actually almost fucked up this entire semester by doing this, I couldn't study or be present in class because I was on the internet.
I really want to get all of this from my system and get my life together, because it is the root of many of my problems: stress, anxiety, inability to create and truly process information, attention and focus deficit, overthinking and so much more. My strategies are: > Having the phone far away from the bed, so I don't pick it up as soon as I wake up > Leaving it on airplane mode on another room when I want to dedicate myself to an activity > No lurking while listening to music, it's too stimulating > Setting alarms at night to stop using it and go to bed > Not having it on my pocket or my hands
Honestly, simply not having it on sight is the best method to me. Because when I see my phone it triggers
the habit to pick it up
When it comes to brain health: > Mindfulness meditation
Truly recommend it to everyone, it's life changing when done consistently but the relief is instantly after a few deep breaths> Being in nature
It can be something as simple as going to a park or to your backyard but we as human beings need to be in touch, daily, with nature > Working out
Also great for cognitive faculties, mental health and the best replacement for social media > Reading, playing board games, being with people, trying new activities, painting, etc
It's both ironic and fitting that we are having this conversation on an imageboard, home of the neets, they have the addicting structure of constant new content and replies.
I'm having health issues so I can't do that much right now. It's so easy to get stuck on LC and other websites.
I've ordered some books so at least I get some off line distractions soon - if I can concentrate on them. >>867917
I'm sorry to hear that about your friend. Perhaps a schedule could help, just check FB certain times of the day to see if there are any news?
Same. I need some sort of digital noise, otherwise I start thinking about toxic
shit in my life and getting even more depressed. I need to look for something engaging enough to distract me outside of the internet, but I have terrible problems with concentrating on anything in the long run. I tried getting back to drawing, but in the end I get frustrated over being shit at it. I used to read tons of books when I was a teenager (easily over 200 per year), but nowadays I just can't commit to reading even one. I regressed so much and it scares me.
Happy to see this thread here. I started cutting down on screen time a few years ago, and I just want to say for the sake of anyone feeling like "oh my god I haven't read a book in years I can't function w/o my phone I'm so far from being where I want to be" – you really can change. I was 100% in this position, and I'm not anymore. It was a series of small things – I tried to go cold turkey a lot of the time, and when that didn't work, I'd feel awful and hopeless. But over time, it got easier, and the little changes added up. Meeting myself where I am has been really helpful – just starting with like, half an hour, or even less, of no-screen time, was important. I'm reading a 1000 page biography right now, which I absolutely could not have done five years ago cold turkey. And that's okay, if that's where you are.
One thing I've found super helpful is remembering this phrase: "walk away from the screen, then figure out what to do next." When I feel that awful brain-fogged overstimulated "I hate that I'm just scrolling but I can't stop scrolling" mood descending, I pretty much yell inside my head WALK AWAY FROM THE SCREEN. You're at loose ends for a minute, but your only directive is "figure out what to do next without a screen." Sometimes I also plan days where I basically pretend I'm living in the past with no smartphone/internet/etc. After a while, it gets a lot easier – when I feel that brain fog misery hit, shutting my laptop is much more of a natural impulse now.
I also found journaling and planning helpful wrt this – I could figure out what I wanted out of less screen time on paper, then break it down into discrete goals per month/week, like "only two hours screen time on saturday" or "wake up and don't look at phone." I never liked journaling before, but once I realized it can just be like, list-making and "okay what do i want out of x" instead of "dear diary, today i did x," it clicked. I made a lot of lists of screen-less stuff to do, recorded progress, etc.
Also, it might feel like cheating, but audiobooks were a big help to me. One of my favorite ways to relax is going on a hike with a good book to listen to. For anyone struggling with negative thoughts that fill up silence, these can be especially helpful. You probably already know that you should look into becoming okay with silence, but these are a helpful bridge while you learn to do that.
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I uninstalled all my videogames a few days ago, I know I should start a hobby or something but I'm paralyzed and restless at the same time, tried reading a book but got only 1 page in. How do you ease into low gaming/internet? It's like my brain is short circuiting.
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I've borrowed a bunch of interesting novels from my library, and at first I couldn't get into reading again. But I went outside to read with no phone and it really worked. I also turn off the wifi at night, it made me sleep better.
I hate it too, you cant just choose not to use technology most of the time. like at my work there's an app that they have us use (they use it for group chat and sharing the schedule and stuff) you literally can't opt out of it if you want to work there.>>929048
I'll try that, I need to start journaling again
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>Facebook mysteriously down for hours
>Instagram mysteriously down fir hours
REJOICE! Let's hope reddit and twitter are next.
I've been trying to get off social media for years. Sometimes I do really well and go without it for months. My issue is I like shitposting on Facebook, it's the only way I get to communicate with people. Now that Facebook is down I'm thinking maybe I'm strong enough to delete it again. I have a timer on my phone to limit me to only an hour on it a day, but still. I get so frantic when I see my time is running out. I started using Instagram again after not using it for a year, to try to promote my writing and gain a following. No one fucking cares on there, it's so pointless, but yet I still feel like I HAVE to because how else do you promote yourself anymore?! When you self publish shit you are your own advertiser and idk how else to do it without social media and I hate it. I want to delete my Instagram too and just go cold turkey but then I feel guilty, like something is wrong with me because I'm not assimilating to society.
On the bright side, I love reading and writing, and I do that with sometimes very minimal distractions. Cross stitching was a good hobby for me, it keeps me very focused because you have to count your stitches, I really recommend it and it's pretty cheap to get started.
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Maybe this will help
Hindu priests used to do this to increase concentration and ability to meditate
Sit down in crossed leg position with hand sing, Get something picrel
And stare the flame down as long as you can without thinking of anything else no deviations or start again, no other thoughts
If it helps in a dark room
It will also relax you a little while keeping breathing in check slow breath
6 second deep breath in through the nose not the chest muscles
Hold it for 2 seconds then release it for 6 seconds then hold for 2 seconds, repeat
If you breath correctly your stomach and chest will rise not only your chest