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File: 1458597796921.jpg (58.01 KB, 636x382, jahi.jpg)

No. 82608

Kinda like a modern-day Terry Schiavo case, now-15-year-old Jahi McMath from Oakland was pronounced brain dead in December 2013 after complications following three procedures intended to correct her sleep apnea. Her mother and lawyer are at the forefront of the campaign to keep her alive. After taking over the waiting room at Oakland Children's Hospital and claiming medical malpractice, the family moved the body of the child (financed by Schiavo's brothers' foundation) to an undisclosed location for private care.

Over the last two years, a finite amount of photos and a handful amount of videos have been released by Jahi's family, mainly her mother, Naliah Winkfield. Naliah has become somewhat infamous to some for being essentially blind to what is glaringly obvious. They have had their lawyer, Christopher Dolan (kek) rally up five doctors to 'claim' that she has "some brain activity." Photos of the child's hand appear to show signs of necrosis, she was documented as passing parts of her intestinal lining with bowel movements last year, and must be covered constantly with blankets to keep her temperature up because her hypothalamus is, obviously, not in effect.

Some mysteries:
>Jahi has started menstruating. This is used by some to "prove" she's still alive.

>Why her eyes are covered half the time, and why she has no eyelashes.


>The state of her body hidden beneath the covers and the excessive amount of filters on photos and suspected photoshop.


>Videos from the girl's mother showing movement of the extremities "in response" to the mother's voice.


News links: http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Jahi-McMath-photo-brain-dead-Facebook-6925986.php

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/03/21/jahi-mcmath-pronounced-dead-years-ago-healthy-new-photo-claims/82082798/

No. 82610

Here is one of the videos where she's apparently 'responding.'

No. 82615

This is so sad. Part of me wants to be all "just let her go" and I like to think I'd know when it was time to pull the plug but I've never been in this situation so idk how I'd actually react.

The whole necrosis and bowel lining thing is scary though. I feel like that's pretty much a sign that she's not coming back.

No. 82616

humans are so stupid and selfish when it comes to death. at this point even if she wakes up she'll be miserable for the rest of her life. disgusting. we treat animals better by putting them down, but get all emotional and keep people stuck in these situations for no reason but selfishness and fear of loss. news flash, she's already lost. this whole 'life support' thing is the human equivalent of apes carrying round their dead young in mourning.

No. 82617

Some brain activity doesn't mean shit. The parts of her brain that made her functional, the parts that made her a person, they're all dead. This is just playing with a corpse.

No. 82618

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Here's the photo of her hand where signs of necrosis are visible. In other photos of her hands it's clear how her fingers have begun to curl inward and down, as well as her toes curling down. Her fingers are swollen at the base and appear puffy but then become quite thin at the ends.

No. 82621

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Spoilering because she literally looks like someone sitting up in a coffin.

No. 82623

What really baffles me is this distrust of medical professionals. People are so arrogant to think they know better than someone who has actually invested their time and energy in studying this shit.

No. 82625

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>>82618
>>82621

Jesus. The mother needs some serious fucking therapy if she's this delusional. Her daughter's body is decaying and she believes there's still something there to salvage. It's only going to get worse. How long will she be able to ignore it?

No. 82627

>>82608
Isn't she just keeping her on life support to avoid prison? The family were suctioning blood from the site of the surgery without any training or permission from medical staff. It was after they were done fucking around playing doctor that she went into cardiac arrest and died. If she was finally declared really real dead, they could be held responsible for killing her.

No. 82630

I would kill myself if I did this to my child after deeming myself more fit to fuck with my daughters surgery than trained surgeons.

No. 82632

This is terrifying, honestly. I would hope my family would just go ahead and pull the plug on me if I were in this situation. Fuck.

No. 82633

>>82608
I'm glad that there are mothers capable of loving their daughter. There are mothers who care more about their pet than their own daughter so kudos. I understand that there are people who wouldnt be able to do that, but to actually criticise her decision is just absurb.

No. 82635

>>82627
wait what?

>>82633
spotted the weak selfish piece of shit.

No. 82636

>>82633
Wow, you would keep the necrotic, brain dead shell of your child alive so you can get internet asspats? There's no way that's what her daughter would want.

The idea of someone keeping my corpse alive, strangers constantly touching my body, cleaning up my shit, having no control over anything–sounds like a horror movie.

No. 82644

>>82635
Can you also spot the fucks I give, anon? :^D
>>82636
>Wow, you would keep the necrotic, brain dead shell of your child alive so you can get internet asspats?
I wouldnt post my daughter on the internet ever though, veggie or not. Regarding the receiving asspats from strangers on the internet - this shit happens always. You can see videos of "good poeplz" giving money to the homeless so they will boost their internet popularity so why cant she?
>There's no way that's what her daughter would want.
You cannot speak for her. If I was in her position I would not want my mother to post me on the internet because I know people are very cruel…I however do want to be "alive" as long as possible even if it meant that I would be a permacucumber. It really sucks that judgemental people dont think such people exist. Maybe the little negrocucumber did wanted this all along. Maybe not, we do not know this for sure. However since she is now incapable of doing anything it's imo the mother's right to decide what she wants for her daughter. But this negro mama decided to post her on the internet so it's also her fault I guess that she is getting criticised.

No. 82645

>>82644
>spotted the idiot christian

No. 82646

>>82645
You cannot spot anything perhaps.
I'm an Atheist actually, and I believe that we all live once. Maybe if I was christian I wouldnt be so afraid of death because they believe in the afterlife no?

No. 82647

Why does everyone think she's just delusional and grieving?

She's posted a lot of pictures of her buying expensive dinners, shoes, purses, etc. and had a gofundme that has pulled in something like 60K so far, despite her saying she only spends about $250-300/week for vitamins for her daughter. There are also plenty of pictures of her partying it up at bars.

She's milking her daughter's death for money. It's fucking obvious.

No. 82648

>>82647
Are you dull? You are forgetting the monthly costs of her stay at the hospital.

No. 82652

>>82644
There's a very special place in hell for your heroism and self righteousness. Have fun.

No. 82655

>>82652
Thank you, I should go to Hell because I want to stay alive as long as I can?
Is it proven Hell exists though?

No. 82656

>>82655
Oh Christ, go tip that fedora elsewhere dude. The containment thread is more suited to you, m'athiest.

No. 82658

>>82656
This would only work if you didnt tell me that I would go to hell etc… I didn't insult your religion nor was I being edgy. Gotta love it when people are caught up in the internet culture so much that they cannot give proper arguments.

No. 82660

I can actually only really sympathise with the mother here. This isn't a reaction born of stupidity, she obviously never managed to get past the first of the five stages of acceptance, that being denial.

I can't even begin to imagine how I would react if the person I cherished most in the world passed away without warning. Maybe I'd be driven mad by grief too.

This is just sad.

No. 82661

>>82658
That isn't my religion, "there's a special place in hell for–" is actually a very common saying. Were you a well-adjusted human being and not a V For Vendetta obsessed incel, you would know that.

No. 82662

>>82661
Why do I belong in hell? I do not have a "V" by the way.

No. 82663

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Has she been relaxing her dead daughter's hair? Christ.

No. 82665

>>82663
Hair on fleek tbh

No. 82666

>>82623

Grief is a powerful thing Anon.

No. 82667

>>82662
Oh my god, we all know you're a neckbeard. All of us.
>male here XD

Mongoloid.

No. 82668

>>82667
Are you brain dead too? I never said that I was a male.

No. 82671

>>82623
>medical experts
Sure anon.
>Instead of beginning with less invasive approaches, such as prescribing a CPAP machine to facilitate breathing while asleep, an ear-nose-and-throat surgeon named Frederick Rosen recommended taking out Jahi’s tonsils, her adenoids, the soft palate of her mouth, and other nearby tissues.

No. 82672

>>82610
How is she moving her arms on request if she's dead tho? She must still be alive and concious

No. 82673

I think that, in situations like this, people think that keeping their loved one around gives the doctors more time to help them. They think the longer they keep them alive, the longer the medical professionals have to discover a miracle cure and find a new procedure or something. Despite everything that's happening to her daughter, maybe the mother thinks that a medical marvel is just around the corner and that we're soon going to have a procedure that zaps the brain back into working order. Maybe she thinks the necrosis can be treated like an infection. Maybe she thinks there will be a way to bring her back.

It reminds me of the people who get themselves frozen instead of buried after their death because they believe that doctors will soon have the ability to resurrect the dead.

When you're going through something sad and scary, sometimes you'll cling to any hope.

No. 82674

>>82644
>negrocucumber
>negro mama
>look at all teh fucks i give xD
>:^D
go and die, cunt

No. 82675

>>82645
Spotted the edgelord.

No. 82676

>>82645
Spotted the edgelord.

No. 82678

>>82674
checks url
This is basically a 4chan based image board right? But even if this was tumblr what is wrong with what I said? I never used "xd" just the 4chan meme ":^)" just like you were meming about fedoras, you hypocrite piece of shit. Seems like you are angry because I said the word negro, thanks for admitting. Negro is not a racist word it's derived from the latin word niger which means black in latin. But even if it was racist, gtfo tumblrina. Sage your next reply because you're full of shit.

No. 82680

>>82671
Removing the soft palate seems odd, usually they do implants to make it a bit less floppy/relaxed so it doesn't block the airway.

No. 82681

>>82671
Removing the soft palate seems odd, usually they do implants to make it a bit less floppy/relaxed so it doesn't block the airway.

No. 82684

>>82680
>>82681
Instead of other methods the "medical professional" immediately did this method on a fucking 13 year old? Why did the mother agree?!

No. 82685

>>82678
>tumblrina
post dismissed

No. 82686

>>82685
Sage or stay on topic you dumb piece of shit.

No. 82687

Wow. This is actually really scary. She went in for surgery and came out brain dead. This is why surgery is scary

No. 82688

>>82684
Removing the tonsils is common in children with sleep apnea if the tonsils are enlarged. It's invasive but sometimes it is one of the first things they do. The removal of the other stuff seems overkill but I'm not a surgeon

Tbh though I don't blame the mother too much because she probably didn't know much about it and doctors can sound convincing af. Even if she looked it up, a tonsillectomy would be listed as a common procedure so she might have thought it was the only suitable one based on what the doctor said

No. 82689

>>82686
i'm trying

No. 82690

>>82687
and it was such a commonly done surgery too. It's crazy.

No. 82692

>>82688
I know he probably didnt expect this because its a common surgery but…this is why I try to refrain from surgery as much as I can. I never blamed the mother but she should have still googled everything. And I was replying this to anon because anon was wondering why people dont trust doctors. Well, this is why. Maybe if she didnt trust the doctor and instead tried to let her daughter lose weight or googled other methods maybe this could have been prevented..

No. 82694

>>82692
Exactly. Most surgeries have complications and someone's child will have to be that 0.01 percent.

No. 82697

>>82672

She's not moving them on request, what you and they are witnessing is a Lazarus sign which is not at all uncommon in brain dead bodies.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazarus_sign

No. 82699

>>82697
That's pretty spooky.

No. 82700

>>82687
>>82690

Nah, she came out of the surgery fine actually and was conscious and asking for ice cream. Something happened to her in a time between when her family were present in the room she was recovering in and when doctors weren't there, but she suddenly suffered massive blood loss out of nowhere and went into cardiac arrest.

No. 82703

>>82700
Is it possible that the family somehow induced the blood loss?

No. 82705

>>82703
Lets not put our tinfoil hats on.


Although I gotta admit this is kind of interesting if you could provide theories.

No. 82706


No. 82707

>>82703

That's what many are suspecting if you research the case, although I'm certain if true that whatever they did wasn't intentional and likely accidental.

Regarding the state of the girl's corpse, if you guys want a more indepth perspective on what the girl's mother is doing and why she's doing it, bear this in mind as it's very pertinent:

The mother is currently suing the hospital and the doctor who performed the surgery for medical malpractice, however at the same time she is fighting to reverse the diagnosis of her daughter's brain death and instead have it recognised that she's in some kind of coma.
This is because when paying out compensation for children who die as a result of non-emergency surgery, the payout of capped at $250,000. For children who DO NOT die, the payout is unlimited in the sense that it can be however much the presiding judge believes the family deserves.

If the mother manages to get a reversal on her daughter's status (which she won't), she gets a considerably larger payout.

No. 82708

>>82705
Well for one, what this anon said >>82627

Also she asked for a popcicle after she died, maybe they were feeding her too much right after the surgery and it burst something?

No. 82709

One person has a different opinion and everyone shits on them. Interesting.

Since her body is actually decaying right before their eyes but she isn't entirely dead, does she smell terrible? Like a rotting corpse would?

No. 82710

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The doctors said that there's no proper bloodflow to the brain (not enough to sustain proper brain activity) so it begs the question of how does the mother, her lawyer and all those people, how do they think this child will miraculously recover? It's not physically possible.

No. 82711

>>82709

Probably not nearly as strong as the scent of a fully necrotised corpse, but I would imagine that yes, there will be a pretty distinct odour.

No. 82712

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>>82709
The necrosis and infections might just. She's like a living dead body, if that makes sense. There's a little blood flow going on and her failing organs are pumping away since her heart is beating. But she can't breathe by herself, she can't think, she's like an empty body. Like that brain villain from the teenage mutant turtles, when he left his body it could still move around and carry out maintenance (lots of involuntary actions in our bodies happen without the brain or from the cord) but it wasn't "alive".

No. 82713

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so she apparently beats her other kids

her insta is a goldmine of partying, alcohol and ghetto parenting

No. 82715


No. 82716

The mother's insta

https://www.instagram.com/onewhosucceeds/

it's on private

No. 82717

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The massive bleed was from her nose and mouth apparently.

She was examined by 3 brain surgeons shortly after death and they all gave the diagnosis of brain death.

The mother refused the diagnosis and lawyered up.

No. 82718

>>82712
>>she can't think, she's like an empty body
Jesus fuck, that's terrifying

No. 82719

>>82713
Thats ratchet black people humor lol

No. 82720

>>82709
I just threw up

No. 82722

>>82717
and do note the curling of her fingers, her hand has been forced open for this photo. Curling of fingers and toes is what corpses do.

No. 82724

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>>82722
More curling

No. 82726

>>82724
Her mother should do my nails

No. 82728

>>82726
why? these look terrible.

No. 82729

Look, yeah yeah it's sad the mother paints her dead daughters fingernails and is so grief stricken that she can't let go but. Let's observe some other points.
*posts photos eating expensive and buying expensive things
*could be the cause of daughter's death
*Posts tons of photos with vegetative daughter, is probably receiving many more donations than what you can see from crowdfunding

Hmm.

No. 82730

File: 1458614630915.jpg (89.75 KB, 500x750, 14nn245.jpg)

"The family suctioned her without permission most likely dislodging the clots that were forming (and perhaps sutures), and they also fed her hamburger and had her laughing and talking after specifically being told she needed to remain quiet. They disrupted the healing process and are directly responsible for the hemorrhage that killed her. "

Sounds abot right

No. 82731

>>82728
>joke

No. 82732

The mother seems incredibly narcissistic.
Never underestimate a narcissistic parent.

No. 82733

>>82729
It costs her mother thousands of dollars A DAY to keep her heart beating so dont doubt her need for money.

No. 82734

>>82732
I see the armchair psychologists are coming already.

No. 82736

>>82733
I understand that. But it's clear that her lifestyle is taking a chunk of it.

No. 82737

>>82733
insurance is a thing, anon. we don't know how much it costs her personally.

No. 82738

>>82734
Eh, just because it's bizarro levels of narcissistic to be doing this–no, not spending time with the corpse of her daughter– broadcasting for all to see like that. Doesn't mean I want to be Freud. Just can't believe anyone would be vain enough to do this to their necrotic child.

No. 82739

>>82730
Maybe guilt is the reason they're clinging so hard to the idea that she's in there somewhere

No. 82740

>>82738
You can judge her behaviour without diagnosing her. Based on your reply you are perfectly capable of that.

No. 82741

>>82730
We're dealing with really really fucking ratchet people. I still think it's sad but I'm now not bothered by it anymore.

No. 82742

>>82740
Narcissism isn't a diagnosis you dweeb.

No. 82745

"Doctors declared Jahi legally dead in December 2013 after she went into cardiac arrest following a routine surgery to treat sleep apnea at UCSF Benioff Children's Hospital. The Alameda County coroner issued a death certificate for the 13-year-old."
Christ.

No. 82746

>>82739
i think this is probably the closest to the truth.

No. 82747

What surgery did she get? Where on earth were they suctioning blood from?

No. 82750

>>82747
She got her tonsils removed along with some other parts of the mouth and throat. I assume they suctioned using a catheter in her mouth or throat but idk

No. 82751

>>82746
Yeah, I don't think they're doing this for money or attention. I don't think they've got a real plan in mind tbh. I think Jahi died, they looked for a reason why this would happen, found out that it was possible they contributed to her death and they reacted out of guilt and denial. They're probably holding onto her out of grief and looking for somebody to blame because it's too horrible to think they may have hurt someone they love.

No. 82753

>>82751
>>82746
This. This is so sad…

No. 82755

>>82754
Aww…this thread makes me way too sad

No. 82756

>>82739
>>82746
>>82751
My uncle's wife's daughter (age 26) died of a heroin overdose. She (the mother of the dead daughter) was an absentee mother her entire life, always ditching her daughter on her friends, mother, the babydaddy, babydaddy's family, etc. They fought constantly - both verbally and physically. They both had alcoholism. Her daughter was a stripper and was married twice. The daughter and her husband were both heroin users.

After her daughter died, she suddenly became the most devoted mother. On Facebook she constantly posts angels and teddy bears and says how much she loves her. She changed her profile picture to her daughter. She kept her daughter's room exactly as it was the day she died, including clothes on the floor.

It's amazing how it sometimes requires your child to die to see how much you didn't do for them.

No. 82757

I got my tonsils and adenoids removed as well as some other sinus tweaks done when I was 13 as well.
When I woke up, I was so drugged up that I couldn't feel anything, so I was talking and "fine." I can't remember eating. The very idea of imagining a child with removed tonsils eating hamburger freaks me out. It sounds excruciating.

wake up many times and vomit MASS amounts of blood. I mean bed pans full of blood, it freaked my mother out. But the blood is meant to congeal and create a barrier protecting from infection and hemorrhage, right? I can't imagine how someone could be stupid enough to do that. My mom is as dumb as a box of rocks and she would have never even dreamed of doing something so risky.

She deserves the guilt imo. You shouldn't get to play god like that.

Sage for definite personal blog.

No. 82758

The instagram doesn't work?

No. 82759

>>82757
Your mother might be dumb but the mother we are talking about is mentally retarded though, based on the pictures on instagram.

No. 82760

>>82759
That's the worst part though: she isn't actually retarded. She has accountability and it's awful.

No. 82762

>>82757

Hm, I had my tonsils removed when I was 10 but I woke up after the surgery sitting up, lucid, not a speck of blood, able to talk and everything, but my throat was ungodly levels of sore so I communicated via pen and paper instead.

After an overnight stay I had some mashed potato and was then allowed to leave.
I'm wondering why our experiences were so vastly different and what's this about you spitting blood and having to allow clotting? Didn't you get stitched up? I actually think my wounds were cauterised - is that not normal?
I did have to relearn how to swallow though. Didn't even think forgetting hour to swallow was a thing but there you go.

No. 82765

>>82707
Wow, that's fucking shitty.

No. 82768

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No. 82769

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No. 82770

>>82762
It was because I had adenoids removed as well, and my sinus pockets were fucked with. It's been some time since I was 13 lol so I can't recall the technical terms atm. They went in through my nose, too, for my sinuses. Was pretty ugly. Nose stretched out for a month. I followed everything properly, I think it was just aggressive. Tonsils alone may be different, as you say, I just wouldn't know personally. For me it was buckets of blood. Yum.

No. 82772

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No. 82773

>>82772
The lipgloss :/

No. 82774

this is giving me nightmares.

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No. 82786

>>82784
so she's saying her brain dead daughter doesn't cause her problems? admitting she's just using her fucking DEAD body for attention

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No. 82789

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No. 82795

>>82785
Not weird at all. She's ratchet as fuck and is probably spending a good chunk of the donation money to treat herself and her shitty family. I honestly doubt she actually gives a shit about her dead kid as much as she says. To her, she's probably just another source of income from donations and possible legal winnings.

No. 82799

>>82795
What I find weird is people actually exist like this. Maybe not so much that I find weird, its astonishing. What the heck goes through her mind to be like this. She also types like shes 13.

No. 82805

>>82740
>triggered

No. 82806

>>82789
Whats6so special about this photo? Is she forbidden from drinking wine?

No. 82808

>>82757
If they tried suctioning the blood off instead of letting it congeal (mother of the year) then no wonder she went into shock

No. 82810

>>82795

Well yeah, if the child's diagnosis of brain death remains the mother only receives up to a maximum of $250,000, which can and will eventually run out. If she manages to overturn that and have her painted aubergine recognised as living she can get up to millions.

No. 82821

>>82806
I think it's more of the fact that she goes out to seemingly expensive restaurants on money donated to her for medical expenses. If my kid was on life support I'd certainly drink too but she just seems to be living it up.

No. 82842

>>82821
I don't think having wine once in a while is "living it up". Just because her kid is on somatic (not life) support, does not mean she should wear a potato sack and stay indoors all the time.

Maybe this was a special occasion. Maybe it was her birthday. Restaurants aren't that expensive if it's just a splurge for once in a while.

She probably is using the donation money on herself, at least partially. Feeding tube, artificial respiration and all that does cost a lot, but she got a huge payout from the government and can probably get by on donations alone once that runs out. She doesn't seem to be living a lavish lifestyle to me though.

No. 82859

>>82821
Just because you're drinking wine at dinner doesn't mean you're at an expensive restaurant. Six Grapes port wine is less than twenty dollars a bottle.

No. 82860

>>82756
Same thing happened when my best friend's sister committed suicide. Their mom was abusive as shit and was really irresponsible to the point where they were basically on the verge of being homeless all the time and she was only keeping them in a home by prostituting herself to men who were constantly around the girls and violated them as well.

It got to the point where my friend's sister just couldn't take it and she hung herself after tons and tons of unsuccessful attempts to overdose over the course of a few months. The mother just lost her shit and basically created a shrine to her in the sister's old room, and still posts about her on social media daily.

It's crazy to see how people change when they realize that they're the ones responsible for all of their child's problems.

No. 82861

None of this surprises me. I have a friend who acts as a sort of assistant caretaker because a friend of his has a brother who has been a vegetable for decades (since birth), totally rotting away hooked into machines, and the parents barely take care of him but also refuse to let him die. Some people just genuinely won't believe that their kid won't wake up

No. 82863

>>82768
Wow, sure is Oakland. Bet she cracked that shit open on the AC Transit too; playing grainy rap out of her blown out phone speakers and trying to fight with an old Chinese woman

No. 82869

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>>82861
I agree. When someone close to you dies, it can be very difficult to accept that they're dead, since you're so used to seeing them alive. I wager someone that's dead but on life support/somatic support must be even more difficult to accept as dead.

With a regular death, you can see them in their coffin, touch their cold body, notice the blood pooling, and realise that they're not in a coma, they're not sleeping, they won't be getting up or buried alive like in those horror movies.

With something like this…Her body still looks alive to an extent, and she spasms. This is something that's difficult not to cling to, especially if you cause your childs death (which I strongly suspect the family of, directly AND indirectly).

No. 82871

>>82869
this is so gross and sad.

No. 82872

>>82859
Anon. That is clearly an overpriced bougie restaurant.

No. 82878

>>82872
So what if it is? Don't you ever go to restaurants?

No. 82879

>>82768
how ghetto…

No. 82880

>>82879
You're pretty defensive over this.

No. 82881

>>82730
This is the biggest attention whore shit. wow.

No. 82882

>>82616
Yeah. Especially since there is no chance of recovery. It's a waste of space for someone else who is alive and needs a bed/room at the hospital. Also a waste of hospital staff's time and money.

No. 82883

>>82880
You think it's acceptable to eat stinking fish in a non-restaurant setting?

No. 82890

>>82883
Omg I'm sorry I meant to reply to
>>82878
lmao sorry anon. I'm in total agreement with you.

No. 82891

>>82890
Yeah I'm defensive of her eating at a restaurant. I don't see why she shouldn't do so.

Of all the negative things to say about this horrible woman who suctioned blood from her child, gave her hamburgers after her tonsils were taken out and takes ratchet pictures talking about how she beats her kids…A picture of her dinner with some cheap wine is what gets your panties in a bunch.

No. 82892

>>82891
That went along with a bunch of evidence that she's frivously and irresponsibly spending money. You started trying to build the mountain from the molehill anon lol.

No. 82899

Ahahaah that mom #getmoneybitch

No. 82961

>>82772
eww Wtf is that? more necrosis??

No. 82962

>>82663
omg her eyes and eyelids are extremely shoop'd

No. 82968

>>82713
Disgusting.

No. 82970

Fucking sad as hell.

No. 82974

>>82768
Fuck all those other people with dying relatives tho
Also, >>82781 is in the waiting room as well. Yes, they basically took over the hospital waiting room.

No. 82975

>>82891
Do you not see all the other shit she's buying? Her landlord even sued her over not paying rend and she's buying expensive shoes and eating calamari at fancy restaurants.

No. 82999

>>82974
Not to mention that they're wasting equipment and government money on keeping a corpse alive. It's grotesque.

No. 83009

tumblr blog with info on the case: http://kesselrunin12parsecs.tumblr.com/

>>82961
yup.

No. 83010

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>>82999
>keeping a corpse alive

No. 83013

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I've been semi-checking up on this 'situation' since it hit national news in 2014 and it's super frustrating to see that her mother is still trying to insist that she's not brain dead when her brain is probably semi-liquefied by this point (aka respirator brain).

Also, I recently saw this photo where it looks like someone in her family has given her a lip piercing (pic related)? Though I suppose it could just be a weird glare/shine from the lip gloss her mother keeps applying to make her lips look more 'healthy'. That said, her eyelid looks obviously edited here too.


Anyways, here's some links:

http://kesselrunin12parsecs.tumblr.com

Already linked a few posts above, but whatever. It has info regarding the mother's instagram and facebook activity and where a lot of the images posted in this thread are taken from.

http://thaddeuspope.com/jahimcmath.html

This site has a collection of legal material that's been released regarding the case, mostly court proceedings, from 2013 to now.

http://media.nbcbayarea.com/documents/HeidiFlori.pdf

Here's a declaration from one of the doctors opposing the insertion of a feeding tube where it mentions that, internally, her body was already starting to decay back in early 2014.

No. 83018

>>82781
>all that soda and trash
No wonder that bitch is obese.

No. 83019

>>82777
What a ratchet ass bitch. Is posting something like that online even legal? Pretty sure the doctor can sue her dumbass.

No. 83020

>>82782
You can take the trash out of the ghetto.

No. 83021

>>82799
>>82795
She's literally a walking black stereotype. It's pathetic as hell.

No. 83041

>>83013
Just went to the Tumblr link. I'm finding it a wee bit obsessive. The "can you do this with your fingers, I can't and I'm 40" - well, I can, without discomfort, because I'm not 40 and neither is Jahi. I'm not saying she is alive (the whole show is grotesque) but something about that Tumblr is a bit creepy.

No. 83043

>>82777
What a cunt

No. 83057

>>82717
I had my tonsils out, and shortly after I had a massive haemorrhage from my nose and mouth. I didn't even realise I was bleeding until it was so bad that I was losing consciousness. That shit is scary.

No. 83079

>>83057

What the hell, seriously? Didn't they cauterise the site?

No. 83082

>>83013

Thanks Anon.

No. 83089

>>82717
After you have something like that done, a blood clot forms over the site to stop the blood. Keeping the blood clot in place is essential, that's why the doters asked her not to talk. It needs some time to form. They probably lectured the fuck out of the family about the blood clot and I bet they didn't listen because they're black and they have their heads in their asses, so they sucked that blood clot right out of her throat and killed their daughter. This bitch is emotionally immature, so denial rules over reality and she can't accept that she killed her kid by being a dumb cunt.

No. 83100

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>>83041
Same here, like this case is too far out for even lolcow, it's just all too much and too weird
Pic related is definitely beyond my threshold

>>82789
OT but is this a normal portion size in America? There's so much calamari there.

No. 83101

You are creeping me out stop following this ratchet bitch

No. 83104

>>83100
Yeah, it's a normal portion in the states, but it's very likely an appetizer that is meant to be shared amongst many people at the table as well.

No. 83107

>>82789
>>82779
I bet they never tip

No. 83131

>>83089
>they didn't listen because they're black
Especially the way shit is going now. So many of them think they know what's best and 'fuck' doctors who went to medical school for 10+ years. She needs to stop wasting the hospital's time and resources and pull the plug already, attention whoring cunt.

No. 83133

>>83100
i might be being too edgy but i'm pretty fascinated by the entire thing. then again i am fascinated by things like foot binding. this whole thing is just making some macabre curiosity grow.

No. 83134

>>83100
Nothing is too weird.

Also: they put lipgloss on a corpse. Classy.

No. 83135

>>83133
This site need more people like you.

No. 83143

>>83100
Wow kisses, nice. Thanks. Nice moist corpse kisses.

No. 83146

>>83100
her parents should start a petition to get a prince to kiss her to wake her up

No. 83156

>>83133
You're not alone. I was really ecstatic when someone created a thread for this after I saw it linked in the Hartley Hooligans thread. There's just something so interesting about this that's different than usual lolcow material.

No. 83225

>>83100
this is fucking terrifying

No. 83324

>>83146
That might just work. Prince kisses are the only medical procedure which could work at this point.

No. 84262

>>82713
Shitty excuses for parents posting proof of abuse all over the internet, and no one does jack shit. What a time to be alive.

No. 84374

>>83131
>they didn't listen because they're black

No, they didn't listen because they're ghetto garbage

No. 84382

I'd been following updates on this case from this guy's blog. He usually updates whenever she is mentioned in a major news story
http://www.docbastard.net/2016/03/jahi-mcmath-updatenot-really.html
http://www.docbastard.net/2015/05/jahi-mcmath-updatesort-of.html

No. 84383

I'm really just waiting on a nurse to forget to do something for her or turn off some important switch so this poor girl can just die in peace

No. 84567

doesnt it cost an absurd amount of money to keep someone on life support for an extended time?

No. 84569

cant her little foot and hand twitches just be signs electrical misfiring or something? not actual brain activity

No. 84579

>>84569
I mean it could be real brain activity, but it doesn't make it significant brain activity. As long as your brain exists and has everything it needs to work properly like blood flow and oxygen support, it will still function to an extent.

But she's never going to be really alive or conscious or anything. She's just having simple reactions that literally any brain would if it's still being forced to work.

No. 84582

>>84383
Well she's already dead anon, they're just keeping the decaying body and brain alive. She's at peace and feels no pain.

No. 84605

>>84569
lazarus sign, already mentione ITT.

No. 84606

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>>84579
Considering how long she's been on a ventilator it's very likely that her brain is the consistency of pudding and probably lacks even the most basic of electrical impulses.

No. 84621

>>82699
That's similar to what you'd see Terri Shiavo doing in videos. That happy blank stare on her face is the same one she has in her autopsy photos. I feel sorry for her parents but she was at that point just a body with reflexive movement. And that's not a dignified way to be. I wouldn't want my family to let me linger in a vegetative state.

There's no way to just snap people out of a vegetative state. Once you are brain dead you are dead. Maybe in a few centuries there could be a miracle cure. But not now. so why can't we let people die with dignity? This child is never going to wake up.

>>83089
If that's the case then I suppose an autopsy would have shown the surgery site had been tampered with. By now the evidence of that is probably long gone.

No. 84631

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>>84606
I'm not usually a sensitive person but this whole thread is making me feel so icky

No. 84636

>>84606
Wouldn't be surprised about that, after Terri Schiavo died they examined her brain and it had severe damage. Even though she could breathe and had normal body functions (aside from being unable to swallow food) she had no consciousness. It's probably similar with this girl.

No. 84683

>>84621
Well they're waiting on a miracle, not medical science.

No. 84820

>>84621
Seeing as the family most likely caused the cause of death her mom would obviously not want her dead as then the hospital would not have to pay out anything if the family was the issue as the actual surgery went fine.
A decline to autopsy because she wasn't 'dead' was probably the original idea of a family member to remove/displace the blame from the family and makes them seem like victims of a botched surgery

No. 85150

>>84820
>the hospital would not have to pay out anything if the family was the issue as the actual surgery went fine.
Even if the surgery was the cause, the hospital won't be successfully sued unless they were negligent. When you go into surgery, you accept the risks involved. There's always a chance of scary shit in surgery so I doubt they'd have a good case.

No. 263832

Jahi officially died on June 22

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/29/health/jahi-mcmath-brain-dead-teen-death/index.html

I hope it's okay to necro this thread. I know there's only so much to discuss about someone who's already been dead for nearly five years but I figured this is a worthy update.

No. 263833

>>263832
Thanks for bumping! I heard the news but I couldn't find this thread. I'm just glad that this poor girl can finally (actually) rest in peace. What an absolute rollercoaster of a story.

No. 263840

>>263832
>>She said she left her job, sold her house and most of her belongings and cashed in her savings to be with her daughter in New Jersey since 2014
excuse me what. She is delusional and she fucked up the rest of her family

No. 263846

Jesus christ this mother gives me the heebie jeebies. I wouldn't be surprised if she refused to bury the body and instead embalmed it to keep next to her every waking hour. It's sad and horrifying at the same time.

No. 263853

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>>263832
For a moment I thought maybe the family realized she was actually gone and pulled the plug, but nope, she'd still be on that ventilator if her liver hadn't given out.

That statement from the family attorney concerning her death certificate makes me think they're angling for a lawsuit in the near future. If so, fuck that family. Didn't they inadvertently cause her death by not following doctor orders?

No. 263864

Doc Bastard just posted his final installment.

http://www.docbastard.net/2018/06/finally-over.html

The KF thread can fill in the lost 2 years with screenshots from the Jahi Facebook page.

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/nailah-mama-nails-winkfield-latasha-spears-winkfield.32689/

No. 263866

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No. 263894

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>>263866
God, Christfags are so cringy.

>you have my permission to go

Gee, thanks mom.

No. 263904

>>263866
Religious people are sick like this.

See, they don't see the doctors, machines, and medicine as keeping their children alive. Even when they're clinically dead, they still believe there's a soul in the body who is conscious. They seriously believe GAWD is doing all the work behind the scenes, and if he wants that soul he'll be coming to take it.
It doesn't matter if it's medical intervention that has kept her body functioning this entire time, they'll strawman about her surgery and say "SEE? IT WAS HER TIME!" even though she's been dead as a person for ages.

No. 263908

>>263846
Honestly…like I can understand a mother's anguish over losing a child is unimaginable, but this whole ordeal just goes so far beyond that. Idek what to say really.

No. 263910

>>263908
anon it was 4 years. she kept a rotting corpse alive for 4 years.

No. 263914

>>263866
>there is no machine on earth that can keep you alive

bitch the fuck you think a ventilator is

No. 263918

>>263914
anon they didn't pull the plug, her dead rotten corpse stopped functioning.

No. 263919

>>263914
If you could call that life. Brain dead people are not alive.

No. 263922

>>263918
>>263919
yeah lmao you're right, my b
it's just upsetting to see this mom pretend to be all ~my perfect angel ready to leave~ when she forced this girl to "exist" in some way for YEARS.

No. 263931

>>263908

>mother's anguish


Mother's greed. She just wanted the bigger payout from the state of California. The capped $250K for wrongful death wasn't enough.

No. 263939

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think she dead yet lola still alive :DDD

No. 263940

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eat

No. 263942

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think(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 263980

I feel so bad for people like Jahi's family, they're dumb and uneducated and they probably have very strong emotion that they don't know how to deal with which lead to stupid and dangerous decisions. This story is heartbreaking all around.

No. 264001

>>263980
>dumb and uneducated
>doesn't listen to important instructions from the dr.

there's a line, anon.

No. 264053

>>264001
Yeah, grief can make people do strange things, but this shouldn't have gone on for five damn years. I have no sympathy for that mother whatsoever

No. 264477

So from what I understand, the mom brought her a burger to eat immediately after her surgery and that somehow lead to her brain death, and the mom has been fighting ever since to insist that she isn't/wasn't brain dead andnthat her desth was unrelated liver failure?

Wouldn't that make her responsible for all of this? I know the doctors would have told them not to let her eat right after having surgery on her palate/tonsils. It seems to me like all this dighting to reverse the brain death ruling is just one huge religion-themed front to keep herself from being held respinsible for recklessly killing her daughter with stuoidity and food.

No. 264492

>>264477

I nicked this reader comment from a recent article:

"Jahi, obese with sleep apnea, had three procedures at Children's : an adenotonsillectomy, uvulopalatopharyngoplasty and submucous resection of bilateral inferior turbinates. After, her doctor instructed them to let her rest and only communicate via a provided whiteboard, but the family posted on social media that she was laughing and talking with them. Another patient reported Jahi eating smuggled-in fast food. She started bleeding, and grandmother (a former nurse) was seen with a suction tool in Jahi's throat. The child lost her airway and had a heart attack."



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