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No. 80335

Hello, farmers! This is a thread to post/discuss anything K-Pop related. Some questions to get this thread started:
>Who is your favorite artist/groups?
>Which song are you listening to at the moment?
>In your opinion, which artist/groups are the most overrated/underrated?

No. 80345

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I'm a casual as fuck fan. The only kpop groups I really like are BTS and Got7. I've tried to get into CNBLUE, EXO, and Infinite, but I didn't like any songs of theirs. Maybe you guys could rec me some things. (I wish I could like Infinite because I LOVE Kim Myung-Soo as an actor.)

No. 80346

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>>80345

Sorry, I just really wanted to post another picture of this adorable boy.

No. 80353

>people unironically like Korean "music" well into their 20s

Wew

No. 80363

I'll admit occasionally k-pop can be fun to listen/watch as long as you turn off your brain. However when you're so serious about it you're actually able to differentiate between the dozens of plastic samefaces you have issues.

No. 80366

>>80363
Top-tier farmer right here. Korean stuff has really infected nerdy social circles. It's annoying.

No. 80371

I want to stick my dick into Baekhyn.

No. 80373

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I've only listened to Peppertones, Cho Hyung Woo and Humming Urban Stereo. HUS is pretty awesome and one of those groups you could actually put on for normal people depending on the song.

No. 80384

>>80353
There's good Korean music out there but it's not mainstream K-Pop.

I've also heard that mostly middle and high school kids like pop bands in Korea while the foreign fanbase ranges from 12 to 30.

No. 80385

>>80384
And there's infinitely better music in Japan and the West if you know where to look? Why would you bother looking for independent or niche stuff in Korea in the first place if you hadn't drunk k-poop kool-aid.

No. 80398

Idk why but I started to "listen" some years back because I had no cable, only that shit that we converted to after antennae. Anyway, one of the channels hosted a kpop show about music (does anyone know of any?), came for the info, stayed for the boners those plastic faced gooks gave me.

No. 80401

>>80385
Why are you so upset about irrelevant korean music? kek

Most people probably don't go looking for it. Maybe they stumble upon some indie band on youtube by chance or maybe they're learning Korean and want to listen to Korean music. Who knows?

No. 80429

>>80373
HUS is great. I love k-indie groups to death.

As for k-pop, I love IU and Orange Caramel unconditionally. The rest of the groups only have some good songs. Wonder Girls, KARA, etc etc.

I absolutely adore Primary. It's so my kind of music.

No. 80458

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I don't think there is anything wrong if you are in high school and obsessing over idols and what not, but if you are in your twenties and spend a majority of your free time re-blogging pictures of idols or whatever, then it's pretty sad.

I know people who spend literally every minute of their free time doing something kpop related and buying things because certain artist promoted them or wore it somewhere. It's like those creepy wota guys in japan who think that girl group members are their personal girlfriend and property.

There's also a lot of older guys on youtube who review kpop and act like it's some cool and unique genre, when in reality it's the same Justin bieber/One direction crap that they like to shit on all of the time.

No. 80459

>>80458
Not to mention the ubiquity of plastic surgery in Korea.

The whole country is one massive lie. Their natural looks are Mongolian looks, actually. Very big faces, tiny eyes, massive cheekbones etc. That's Korean's real face.

No. 80460

>>80458
>the same Justin bieber/One direction crap that they like to shit on all of the time.

Yeah this is the part that annoys me. What's with the hypocrisy that western pop is all commercial shit but kpop isn't? If people naturally prefer kpop, whatever, but so many of them also actively shit on western stuff

No. 80461

People who hate kpop are so goddamn hostile. That's not what this thread is about. If you want to shit on kpop, the music or the culture, go make your own threads.

No. 80462

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이종현 cutie :)

No. 80463

>>80461
It would be fine if you just accepted it as it was.

Instead it's this ceaseless stream of:

>K-Pop is incredible!

>Korean men are super hot!
>Korea is incredible! I want to go to Korea!

etc.

That's what makes people hate K-Poopers, same reason people hate weebs (real weebs).

From a personal perspective I dislike it because it's literally pushed by the Korean government at the highest echelons as a way to spread their pop culture abroad, and they use some quite duplicitous means of doing so. By buying into this stuff, you're basically astroturfing for the Korean government… for free.

Finally. Koreans are generally really hostile, nationalistic people, even by the standards of the Pacific Asia region. I've never really met anyone who went to Korea who had anything good to say about them. Their 1000 year long inferiority complex is maddening when you've actually had to deal with it.

No. 80473

>>80463
And the idols themselves are often intensely anti-Japanese/American, amusingly enough.

No. 80485

>>80463
First, no where in my post did I express any of those obsessions. Yes, the kpop fan community is annoying, but you can just ignore it. Hide this thread. Whatever. Think of it as a containment thread for kpop fans so they don't talk about it on every other thread.

No. 80536

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>>80485
>This is a thread to post/discuss anything K-Pop related.

yet you get pissy when people dare not to obsess with your precious kpop?

No. 80549

>>80536
Yet all of OP's questions are for fans? I didn't see one that said "why do you hate Kpop?" The opening statement should have been worded differently.

No. 80551

>>80549
OP said starter questions, not "This is what the thread is about."

No. 80561

One of my (former) best friends is into K-Pop now. This is one of the main reasons why I despise it.
It's a K-Pop thread, right? Well, that's about K-Pop.

No. 80570

I like Zion.T, Dean, Madclown, Crush, Taemin and Jay Park. There is more to korean music than just the extremely manufactured pop side.

It is no better or worse than most american music. As long as you aren't being a koreaboo there is nothing wrong with listening to it sometimes.

>>80353
>>80385
>>80463
>>80536
This is why lolcow is going to shit. You guys bitch and moan about sensitive sjws but you can't stand to even see a single thread about something you don't like. Just use the hide thread button and move on with your lives.

No. 80575

Korean faces. Why are they like rectangle?

No. 80579

Kinda, sorta but not really related to Kpop music, but:

I hate that due to Koreaboos obsessing over Korea and Kpop, they're now finding any regular Korean guy to be some kind of ethereal creature. I once got a recommendation to watch some foreigners perspective on living in Korea after I watched a review on Korean makeup products. I made the mistake on clicking on it and the foreigner posted pictures of her experience at a Korean night club. All you see in the comments are these women creaming themselves over these hideous guys that "kind of looks like Taemin/Kai/Baekhyun/Kris/every Korean right?" and how jealous they were.

They become delusional and want to be as close to Korea as possible, even if it means whoring themselves out to some -5/10 guy just to see what it's like dating one. I never bought into that whole fetishizing races bs until I saw it in action in these videos and the commentary people were making. Yellow fever is actually a thing, and as much as people want to complain about white guys targeting Asian girls, fuck women worldwide target Koreans just because they're from the same country as the plastic guy in a plastic group.

I rarely see any other country or race receiving this kind of cult following where they see some fedora wearing neckbeard and go "aww he's like a chubby version of Harry Styles, cuuuute!" Granted there are Asian girls who will date the gross white guy that no one back home would date, but almost everyone assumes it's to learn English.

No. 80584

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>>80373
Anon, I fucking adore Humming Urban Stereo.
I also like some indie groups like Linus' Blanket, Lucite Tokki, & Hourmelts

As for more mainstream stuff there's a good handful of songs that I like, especially by f(x) and Red Velvet, but for the most part all the groups are pretty much the same to me. I can't really understand how people get so into kpop tbh, then again I've never understood how people can get so into any band beyond the music itself, regardless of country. I've watched a lot of those variety shows and interviews trying to understand the appeal but i just find it kinda boring

I do really like a lot of Kpop choreography though.

No. 80617

I really wish I could just fall in love with kpop because it seems like such mindless eye candy, but it usually just makes me go "nope."

When I was in middle school, I remember liking DBSK, but that's about it. Now there are some songs and artists I've heard and have liked, but it is such a small amount (all i can think of off the top of my head right now is BTS, B.A.P, and GD&TOP though)

Anyone want to try and convert me?

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I'm a straight girl and I love girl groups. Can't get into boy groups for the life of me, they're just really cringey for some reason.

I like Nine Muses, Stellar, and Exid. They're pretty western pop friendly too.

No. 80625

Kpop is literally shit. Like it's American pop in Korean. What's the point of listening to Kpop when you can listen to Western pop? Also Kpop has the dumbest fans in the world and there's a lot of them unfortunately

No. 80632

>>80579
I don't think white women are attracted to Asian men in general though. Koreaboos are usually the residue of unpopular, socially maladjusted women. Often they have issues with their parents too.

No. 80638

>>80579
Ngl. As a white guy this makes me a bit butthurt.

No. 80644

>>80638
"As a white guy"
shuuuut uuup

No. 80646

>>80644
>shuuuut uuup

Are you 8?

No. 80650

I actually really like a lot of the mainstream Pop that is getting pumped out. It fills my need for spunky summer music.

No. 80718

>>80632
>Koreaboos are usually the residue of unpopular, socially maladjusted women

Why do you think that? This assumption gets thrown around a lot on lolcow but I've yet to see any living proof for it.

No. 80728

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You should go to asia and see for yourself that white fever still massively, massively outnumber weeaboos/koreaboos

You're making a fuss over a insignificant number women (imo, more black than white) obsessed w/ kpop

>Not sure why hordes of koreans are going nuts over some white boy in a suit?

No. 80729

>>80718
Are you kidding?

You think the white girls who obsess over super junior are the same ones who were part of the popular clique at school?

Ordinary white women find Asian men unattractive.

No. 80746

>>80728
>obvious bait
That guy is some British actor. Foreign movies and celebrities sometimes promote in Korea since they're popular over there.

White fever exists but this doesn't prove anything.

No. 80749

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>>80746
You're making a mountain out of a molehill. Weeaboos are insignificant compared to 'westaboos' globally.

No. 80750

I'm a massive fan of Super Junior. Idk how some people can say they're not talented like.. They have members excelling in singing and dancing and still they are underated.

I'm not really into rookies except Red Velvet and Monsta X, I really have a thing for "older" groups

No. 80754

>there are actually grown women who listen to Korean pop music meant for 14-year olds

It's like being a fan of 1D or Bieber at 21, bit with less character or talent.

No. 80763

>>80749
? I did agree that white fever exists but I guess people want to talk more about weeaboos because of personal experiences or something.

>>80750
K-pop groups are generally called untalented, except by blind hardcore fans. There are some outstanding singers and good dancers but the rest are just fillers, meant as eye candies. Plus, it's hard to see someone's talent if they're part of particular big groups.

No. 80800

What's up with the influx of people going into threads and shitting them up by being negative? Why? What's the point? Isn't there enough salt and milk on this chan from before?

No. 80801

>>80617
Wow so above kpop. Much edge.
You're asking people to convince you to like it while passive aggressively hating on if? K

No. 80803

>>80800
Dude, where have you been? We've had an influx of Instagram and tumblr whores, robots, and mpa hoes posting here. The whole site is slowly being infected.

No. 80808

>>80803
If we had an influx of tumblrinas then we'd expect to see a lot more positive k-pop comments.

Anyway, I don't hate k-pop as a genre, it's generic crap but no more generic and crappy than any other pop, I hate the fans and their ethnic obsessions with that soulless country though.

No. 80814

thread needs more bts.

No. 80816

>>80814
I thought you said:

>"thread needs more bots"


And that reminded me that hallyu began, literally, as a government sponsored psy-op.

No. 80823

>>80728
never claimed white women were the ones who are primarily obsessed with Koreans
(I'm white myself), I see this across every racial group

No. 80835

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No. 80836

Anyone really disappointed in CL (of 2ne1) ever since she made her US debut? Dirty Vibe was just awful. And Hello Bitches was just noise.

No. 80837

>>80814
The #1 group of ugly fat koreaboos. Whenever I meet someone who likes them I avoid them like the plague.

No. 80840

>>80570
>don't disrupt my circlejerk waaaah

No. 80859

>>80840
>circle jerk

you don't know what that word means

No. 80861

>>80859
Sure I do. You don't want people saying bad things about k-pop in here. It's a circlejerk.

No. 80871

I haven't really kept up with the newer groups. I think I stopped at the B1A4, Boyfriend, etc era of Kpop.

I like IU, U-Kiss (wish they'd do more in Korea though I get why they do more Japan promos), B1A4 (went to one of their concerts it was pretty good), MBLAQ (pretty disappointed that Joon and Thunder left), Miss A, and FT Island.

Do any of you have guilty pleasure Kpop songs? Mine will always be Boyfriend by Boyfriend. It's so terribly cutesy and pretty cringey, but I know all the words to it.

No. 80874

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>>80871
Boyfriend is so underrated, I love their music. Even their newer stuff. I appreciate how artful their music videos are.

My guilty pleasure will always be wolf by EXO. Terrible song, but catchy.

No. 80946

>>80874
I'm the anon who only likes BTS and Got7 from the first post up there. What songs would you recommend by Boyfriend? I feel like I might be able to get into them.

No. 80958

>>80946
Not that anon, I'm the guilty pleasure Kpop songs anon. While I think Boyfriend is one of their weaker songs, they are a good group (Boyfriend and B1A4 are my top two favorite male groups from that era). Obsession, Janus, Witch, and Bounce are some of my favorites.

No. 80970

>>80808
Some of the posts above, about plastic Mongolians and white fever, were probably made by 4chan dudes.

>>80871
Trespass from Monsta X is a guilty pleasure for me. It sounds awful at first but I like the dance.

No. 81025

>>80946
>>80946

Pretty much just seconding what the other anon said! I think your best bet is to just check out all the songs that have music videos, and then if you like their overall style, look into their other songs. Kpop is very visual, so I find watching the videos to be the best way to immerse yourself into the music.

Witch is good, the music video is really corny in a "vampire anime from 2011" kind of way, but the choreography is interesting.

Bounce is my favorite, the music video is Alice in Wonderland themed and it's gorgeous.

Obsession is Peter Pan themed and catchy.

>>80970
I don't think so, we have several regular lolcow members who are determined to hate on anything involving Korean/Asian men because they want to show off how ~different they are from the lolcows posted here. It comes off as suspiciously specific denial to me.

No. 81049

>>80970 >>81025 I hate kpop, and I have commented in this thread. I don't hate Asians (because I am one and I married one) or Koreans (best friend is Korean), I just think kpop is literal plastic trash and people that worship that shit are also trash. lol

No. 81064

>>81049
kpop is no more plastic than american pop music, do you also hate people who listen to american pop?

No. 81074

Why's everyone hating on Ga-In now?

No. 81235

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>>80335

No dickwad, I wanted to see if maybe there was some Korean pop group someone could suggest that isn't so…generic (I think that's that right word). I'm sure not all of it is that super mainstream stuff. And I never said I was above it. If I really thought that I wouldn't have posted asking for suggestions/conversion.

I don't think there's anything wrong with that really mainstream mindless kpop I'm thinking about. Its just not something I could really get into and listen to all the time. Only when I want to really turn my brain off. There's nothing bad about that. Another anon explained it really well…

"ooo such edge" stfu

No. 81237

>>81064 I doubt it is more plastic than k-plastic. Also I don't know stupid American pop fans but I see stupid Korean pop worshippers all the time

No. 81241

People only listen to that shit because it's foreign. If you want very basic but catchy pop just listen to old school Britney Spears or something, it's miles better.
I just don't get it I guess. And tbe whole kpop industry is disgusting I can't believe peole support this shit, not even a moralfag it's just gross.

No. 81246

>>81025
People like Korean men? I mean Japanese I can sort of understand. But Korean? Lol.

No. 81290

>>81241
The industry treats their stars like shit. It's pretty deplorable. EYK did a video about it and I'm sure there are a few others. I like listening to kpop, but I never actually buy anything to support the industry because of the awful people behind it.

No. 81309

>>80473
>anti-japanese
sure
>anti-american
lmao

No. 81353

I used to be a huge kpop fan, I think the last time I ever listened to any was in 2013, The last concert I went to was B.A.P in London and that was an absolute mess. Best concert I went to was probably CN Blue or Big Bang. The fandom is a shit fest too, one time I chatted with these fangirls who seemed chill but the mother was way more into it than they were, she told us about how at her office her computer wallpaper is a shirtless picture of a member from Beast and everyone at her work has seen it.

I cut off most of my online kpop friends because they hate themselves for being white and want a korean bf (they were all older than me too) It's weird looking back on the obsession and finding those idols attractive, everything about them is so fake from their looks to personality.

No. 81363

>>81353
>want a korean bf
That's the part I honestly don't understand about K-pop fans. Do they think your average Korean guy is going to be like G-Dragon or Si-won? Or do they only want someone they can call oppa and who speaks Korean?

No. 81368

>>81353
>because they hate themselves for being white and want a korean bf

I've seen this before and I just don't get it. Even when I liked j pop and was a huge weeb I didn't get it.

Do these girls just have low self esteem and hate their own race to begin with?

No. 81372

>>81368
Its honestly probably a combination of the two, i think when people who are already kinda shut out and lonely engross themselves in a world that idolizes and obsesses over a different race they end up thinking that same way.
There are sane people who like kpop but the crazies are always the loud majority as is with anything.

No. 81439

>>81363
>>81368
>>81372

Pretty much, the ones I knew were actually pretty girls but i guess having 24/7 access to wifi so you can obess more over something can probably warp your views.

Also, has anyone else been to a kpop concert and thought the asian fans were really closed off from socializing?

No. 81556

>>81439
ive been to a couple
the koreans tend to only speak to other koreans for obvious reasons which doesnt really bother me, but man they can be fucking brutal if you get in between them and their oppa

If you mean asian-americans, I've seen a mix between them hanging with white girls and them only being with other asian-americans

No. 81573

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>>80836
Never like her American releases to be honest. Well, her Korean solo wasn't that bad, until that "The Baddest Bitch in Town", or whatever it's called, then it goes downhill.

Anyway, I don't follow K-Pop as much now, but from all recently debuted girl groups, I like Mamamoo the most. Their live performances are so fun to watch!

No. 81610

>>81439
That's why I was wondering about the implication above: Koreaboos = unpopular, socially maladjusted women. >>80632 Because many of them (who are not teeenagers) seem quite normal and look pretty, except with an unusual obsession of pop music and its people from another country. The Koreaboos I've seen are not like your stereotypical overweight weeb with no social skills or fucked up people like Sere.

>>81573
Mamamoo has a lot of charm and stage presence. I enjoy the retro, jazzy (?) feel to their songs.

No. 81614

>>81610
Regardless of how you look I think hating your own race and preferring another group to the exclusion of your own group purely because of pop music and bad dramas is a bit ridiculous.

No. 81782

>>80836
She's trying so hard to be gangsta and it's like "fucking stop already."

No. 81783

>>80874
Wolf really is super catchy.

No. 81815

>>81782
I know right? Acting gangsta and throwing random swears in songs have already been done a thousand times in American hip hop music. Even if she has several well known producers like Skrillex and Diplo backing her up, if she wanted to stand out with that, well…good luck to her, I guess.

No. 81818

Sometimes I think girls who want korean/japanese BFs are just turned off by overt masculinity in general.
Which I totally get, yeah asian men seem gentler, kinder, etc. I hate machoism.
The problem is that they're actually far more sexist than most men once you have a serious relationship with them. So they're in for a big surprise.
Kind of related, but white men who date asian girls because they're "submissive" are in for a big surprise too. Sure they'll cook you great food and do all the housework and work full time on top of it but lmao. I see so many sad looking white dudes walking around with a dozen shopping bags behind their asian wives at the mall, etc. Don't expect to have any control over your finances either.

No. 82015

>>81818
I don't know much about Japan (actually I've heard Japanese women occupied a higher position than Asian women on the mainland historically, but not sure of the truth of that), however one thing I can say for certain is that the status of women in China is really fucking low. It has actually declined since the early communist days in many respects. It's also one of the only countries in the world where female suicides outstrip male suicides. Korea in some respects is an even more strictly neo Confucian society than China, both historically and in the present day. Something like 30 percent of men there admit to losing their virginity to prostitutes and over half have paid for sex more than once in their life. It's a common thing for Chinese and Korean married dudes to visit hookers and a lot of them expect their wife to tolerate it as a man's privilege. And if you think western male entitlement is bad, you've seen nothing. Chinese and Korean men literally believe they're entitled to women whether or not the woman desires them.

This is partly why I think the "nice guy" routine of a lot of Asian guys (especially overseas) is an even more transparent act than it is with MRA types and I'm not sure why anyone familiar with Asian culture would believe Asian men are any "nicer". It's like taking neckbeards at their word with the m'lady stuff.

Just because someone disavows overt masculinity of the fratboy variety doesn't make them some sort of gentleman. In fact I'd probably say the likelihood is that the fratboy holds more healthy views about women than the Asian guy in most cases.

tldr: don't know about Japan but the concept of Asian men being more gentlemanly because they're less extroverted is bullshit.

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>>82015
>I want to generalize a whole population of hundreds of millions of men into a single stereotype
Believe what you want, but you're describing no more than 1% of the Asian population at best. The vast majority of married Asian men are pussywhipped as fuck, if they can even afford to marry someone

Rich men are same everywhere. They have plenty of women chasing after them and they can continue on with their fratboy/playboy lifestyles without negative consequences

No. 82030

>>82029
The figures for married Korean men who regularly use prostitutes was something like in excess of 40 percent. And their cultural values are just different. I'm not saying one or the other is better, but there's a much less foundational idea of romantic or courtly love in Asian cultures. Much more attention is given to pragmatism.

You'll also notice I stated I didn't know enough about Japanese men to comment fully. Korean and Chinese men I'm more acquainted with.

No. 82031

>>82030
>pussywhipped

Also this is just a trope. There weren't even domestic abuse laws in China until last year.

No. 82057

>>81818
>>82015
>>82031
>>82030


WE HAVE ENOUGH RACE AND DEBATE THREADS. JUST LEAVE IT BE.

No. 82101

>>81818 basically white girls who want an asian guy (from asia) dont understand what they are signing up for. then they end up divorcing because they have to cook and clean and do all the shit asian women do for their asian husbands. my dad's east asian (my mom is not) and their relationship ended up like that too tbh

No. 82112

>>82101
Eh yeah.

On the venus/margo thread I mentioned that the marriage between venus and her Japanese husband wouldn't last and that he seemed creepy and I was set upon by his fangirls, who apparently view the guy as a knight in shining armor.

No. 82125

>>82030
i asked my korean bf if that was true ad he dumped me for being racist
thanks anon

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>>82125
1)You are a racist if you don't see people as individuals instead of stereotypes
2)It's better that the relationship ended since apparently he's not good boyfriend material

>get a husbando and call it a day



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