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No. 601371

Right now we are in that weird limbo where society thinks we are too old to have any enjoyment in life but also too young to just die and move out the way.

No. 601392

I’ll be in this club in 3 months, I turn 26 in November. Keep a seat open for me until then ladies.

No. 601408

31 y.o here. really want to eat that cake with you bitches.

No. 601409

>>601371
about to hit that sweet 26, any advice for your late 20's ladies?

No. 601410

Fuck yea, it's wild how I look mostly the damn same I did when I was 22 only with better skin yet somehow people think a 26 should look significantly older. Where do we live? In a society.

No. 601412

>>601371
I’m sick and tired of being a fucking femcel how to I ascend and get bf. So paranoid and distrustful of men wtf. I just want a husband and kids rofl

No. 601413

>>601408
Same! Let's party!
When I read all the insecure posts from younger women here, I feel relief that I'm no longer a clueless 18 yo.
Can't let go of imageboards though, kek

No. 601414

>>601410
right? i always get people shocked that i'm not early 20s.

No. 601418

>>601414
Saw some anon on some thread talk about how there's not a single way a woman in her way to her 30s should even look like, you can have wrinkles at 20, you can not have them at 30. Shall we forever keep our fresh frickin vibes, anons.

No. 601425

i can't stand the "no one on the internet can be over 25" mentality. i've been here through AOL chat rooms, geocities, napster, livejournal (shoutout efagz), FRIENDSTER, myspace, etc etc i'm not logging off at some magical age.

people who think that life ends at like, 30, are boring and wrong. according to buzzfeed we should all be using walkers and looking into retirement homes. i'm in my early 30s, better looking than i was in my early 20s, have eased up on partying for sure but some of my best and most fulfilling years were post 25.

my only problem is that i feel like i SHOULD want to get married and have kids and it's some weird defensive thing where i assume people around me are also thinking it. but i just have no interest in it and only think about it because of the outside pressure. not sure where i'm even going with this but good thread

No. 601431

>>601425
this is so weird to me, i think it comes from the misconception that people become different people entirely when they get older. younger people seem to think everyone was like them when they were young, and just matured into someone else, but that's not the case. it's really weird to me because i don't remember feeling this way. also my own mom was on AOL and illegally dling music and stuff when i was in high school, so being older on the internet isn't strange to me.

No. 601439

>>601425
Women are supposed to disappear after 30 because we are all meant to be busy with taking care of children, with no time of our own. Well fuck that.

No. 601445

>>601425
In some way i feel kind of guilty that I'm not interested in having kids or being married.

No. 601446

>>601445
don't, at least it's ecological to not have any.

No. 601457

>>601445

EXACTLY, it also doesn't help that i'm an only child with no siblings to take the grandchild burden off of me. i mean my parents have always said they just want what's best for my happiness but i know they secretly would like to see me married with kids

No. 601472

>>601425
> but i just have no interest in it and only think about it because of the outside pressure.
Ugh same. I don't want to get married or have kids, I don't even want to live with a guy. I'm confident and happy with that decision. But I'm still scared of judgement, people don't say anything to me now (at 28) but I know the older I get, the more stigma there will be. I don't care about incel trad rhetoric that my existence should revolve around having kids, they can stay mad, but I'm horrified at the thought of well meaning pity and people thinking my life is sad or pathetic without knowing anything about me. My younger sister just got engaged and I'm worried it will mean a bunch of questions about why I'm not in a relationship or getting married, I don't wanna have to answer 'because men ain't shit and I like being alone' (although that's the truth).

The one good thing is that my parents don't care. My mum has never mentioned it once, and dad told me he actually doesn't want grandkids. He spoils me and I get the impression he knows that the hard work and sacrifice that comes with kids would make me miserable, so it's contrary to his goals of giving me a happy life. I got crazy lucky with them, I know how rare that is.

No. 601482

>>601472

Yoooo same anon except I’m 30+ and my brother’s on his second marriage and has hella kids / I’ve been very clear I’m not doing either and my family are super chill about it. Everyone else can fuck off tbh, I’m not really bothered about their opinion.

No. 601487

>>601482

I should add though that I echo the mild fear of others’ unwarranted pity because they have me so wrong. I’ve been single the past three years after being in relationships solidly since I was 16 and I’ve never been happier.

No. 601488

>>601425
I share your sentiment, I’m in my early 30s and definitely don’t want kids and reading your post made me feel better about it.

No. 601492

The best thing about making it to my thirties is I know myself so much better now, am much more comfortable with myself and don’t feel like I have anything to prove any more. I’ve also found antidepressants that work for me and actually take them now, which is probably the main difference along with finally working my way up to a decent wage.

No. 601499

>>601488
>>601482
same! i see nothing wrong with it.

i also haven't been financially stable enough for a child until the past year or so- and i'm turning 30 next year. my younger sisters both had children in their early 20's and absolutely cannot afford to take care of them (parents already have custody of one), let alone get control of their dependency to drugs.
i really can't understand why people put themselves in situations like this. kids deserve better than that.

>>601495

sorry, deleted my original post

No. 601506

>>601371
I love this thread! I knew you guys were here lol. I think back to my early 20’s and I was a depressed mess. I’m surprised I didn’t kill myself tbh.
Glad I didn’t, I’m 28 now, and life is fucking lovely ladies. Despite all the craziness rn, I feel great. Also, I was fat and pimpley at 20. Now guys from my graduating class who treated me like I didn’t exist have popped into my DMs over the years. Feels good to turn them down lol.

No. 601508

Just turned 30
Pros:
-I know what I want in life now and am pursuing my goals however I can
-I refuse to let people use me anymore
-I got away from fake friends who only wanted me to stay weak so that they could feel better about themselves

Cons:
-I keep regretting my 20s and all the idiotic efforts I went through to impress people and family members who don't give a fuck about me
-People still treat me like a child because I (apparently) look like I'm in high school. This is not a blessing as some well-meaning old people have told me. Nobody takes women seriously to begin with, it's worse in many ways to be viewed as a teenage girl.

No. 601511

>>601487
It's hard because people often just straight up don't believe a single/childless woman when she says she's happy. They're convinced it's a lie or a cope or it's only a matter of time before she regrets it with all her heart and soul and will start saying 'where have all the good men gone??' and blah blah (though that last one is mostly an incel thing). It's really hard to prove that you're happy when people think your circumstances are the worst case scenario in life.

The thing that helps me most is reading what actual parents have to say. There is loads of honest parenting discussing these days, often on subreddits like breakingmom for example, or regret stories on childfree. Even the more neutral, balanced subs about general parenting or motherhood are fairly candid. There are plenty of stressed, unhappy mothers out there and almost all of them firmly believe that you should not have a kid unless you 100% enthusiastically want one. It's very reassuring to hear it straight from the horses mouth.

No. 601515

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Sorry for youngfag post, this thread is based and I love you ladies, that's it

No. 601517

>>601511
SA, not to say that I desperately need to 'prove' to people that I'm happy. Obviously being happy is enough whether people know it or not, and I'm not going to make bad decisions out of fear of what other people think. It's just mild insecurity about being pitied.

No. 601522

Wait, 26+ is seen as "old" now? I always thought it was 30+ (not that I believe it myself).

I've been feeling old since I was 23, most of my college classmates were in their late teens when I enrolled into college and I had to get married for a visa so they would always say shit like "you're a married woman, why are you wearing a miniskirt?". Unfortunately I believed them and began dressing in dowdy bizcas until I broke up with my manchild ex and started dressing how I want.

I had a quarter-life crisis and then moved on when I got tired of people deciding on my life for me, because none of those supposedly well-meaning decisions made me happy. I sure as hell look better than I did in my early 20s, have more money, a better partner and feel less like killing myself. I have no idea why we let people meme us into dreading getting older, it's fucking great.

No. 601540

>>601522
Damn that's shit of your classmates. It took me a long time to graduate school so I was in school later as well. I actually just graduated at the age of 26. Sometimes I can pass for early 20's though depending on who you ask.

So far I haven't had any benefit from getting older yet, especially because of rona. I just want to be independent and content with life.

Sorry for the blogpost sperg. Thanks for creating this thread fellow 26+ anons :')

No. 601547

>>601522
26 is internet old, just not irl. Though imo it's not old at all. We're just constantly told we are old and uncool once you 'peak' at 18. Load of bullshittery.

I honestly thought turning 30 would make me feel some kind of way, but it has been great other than the whole quarantine thing. I finally feel settled, physically and emotionally. My childhood and teen years were very turbulent and didn't think I would live to see 20. But here we are a whole 10 years later and I feel great. My depression has lifted, I'm no longer medicated and I am getting back into my art after having my love for drawing and painting kicked out of me by an ex boyfriend.

Maybe they shame us about our age so we arrive at their threshold of undesirability with an already downtrodden outlook, malleable and easier to kick further down the gutter. Or maybe I'm just chatting shite. Anyway, I love you old girls.

No. 601572

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>>601522

> I have no idea why we let people meme us into dreading getting older, it's fucking great.

No. 601586

Great thread. I turn 30 next month and am kinda ambivalent, possibly relieved there’s no expectation for a big party thanks to COVID. I think I behave as I have since I was ~18, just less internally depressed and hysterical, more confident and chill with myself…thinking that I’m just going to become a “truer” version of my same self makes me look forward to aging.

No. 601621

I'm 26, single, no kids. Has anyone else found that it becomes more difficult to make good friends at this point in life? Obviously the pandemic isn't conducive to meeting new people and socializing, but I noticed this for myself over the past few years.

No. 601640

>>601621
Yep. Especially when you have few normie interests. I don't dislike the people I know at work, I just have nothing in common with them. I enjoy the people I share hobbies with (back in the pre-COVID days with classes and gyms) but I don't necessarily think that would translate into getting along outside of that particular environment.

I know some cool folks online, but it's a bummer not having someone physically present to do simple shit, like walk around the neighborhood, play games and watch movies together. I live with my partner and we do those things (and more, obviously). He's great. But knowing I have no one outside of him to share those activities is kind of weird because all my friends live in different states/countries now.

I was never uncomfortable on my own before this, but over time I've started feeling like I'm in an echo chamber of my own mind. It's surreal and a bit uncomfortable. I know I could put in more effort to make new friends, but that's almost more stressful than dating was to me. I had no issue cutting guys off, lol. But there are so many genuinely sweet women and I'd feel miserable telling them I felt like we weren't clicking after making the time to hang out, or vice versa, like I didn't do enough to be a good friend to them? I know I'm overthinking it but it's a sucky situation.

No. 601644

>>601621
You are not alone, I've been feeling the same since I turned 25 and I am just on the precipice of turning 30. I feel that I can build rapport on face value, but seem to not be able to gain that deep connection I once gained when I was socialising at the younger age. Maybe it's just that I have been burned too many times or work gets in the way whatever, but I do feel this too.

No. 601656

>>601644
God I feel this. I get along with people well enough but I can feel myself holding back and overthinking things. Like, "Oh I shouldn't say that they won't know wtf I'm talking about," or, "They'll think your real opinions are weird." And it's not even in a self defeating way, I'm not ashamed of who I am. It's just that I've experienced so many people giving me those exact responses that I feel like putting the effort in is pointless. It didn't really bother me when I was younger but now I just feel beaten down. I'm more at ease with myself but less comfortable opening up and trusting others.

No. 601671

>>601656
Fuck anon so relatable

No. 601672

>>601656
It's tough- because your experience and perspective is so different, it's difficult to know what to divulge and what to hold back. The difficulty lies in where you hold back, they will never know that they may hold interests similar to your own. On the other hand; if you give too much, they may be alienated to what you are talking about as they cannot relate.

It truly is a minefield. Though it's peaks and valleys, give a little and you may get a little back. If not, just change the subject lol.

No. 601679

>>601672
Thanks anon, you get it. I dislike having to tiptoe around certain topics but at the same time I know that’s just life. You’re right that you can’t chance upon a kindred spirit unless you’re willing to put a bit of yourself out there.

I wish people were more open-minded overall. My best friends in the days of yore were those who I could disagree with and neither of us would get offended, we’d just respect each other’s views and appreciate the new perspective. Unfortunately a lot of people get way more defensive and set in their views as they get older, so it’s harder to feel you can ever be totally relaxed with someone.

No. 601738

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I'm 26 and going through a minor existential crisis about it. I didn't reach the education+career goals I wanted to in my early 20s and I feel like it's too late for me to go anywhere in life, even though I logically know that I'm not even halfway done with my life and my goals aren't even anything that would require 8 years of school or whatever.

No. 601742

>>601738
I’m going to be 26 in a few months and I’m in the same boat. In fact, I’m not sure even what schooling I need for what I want. But let’s get it bitch, it’s never too late to better ourselves and achieve our dreams!

No. 601761

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When I was 27 I was horrified of the dreaded 30 mark. Now that I'm here I'm happier than I've ever been and totally content in myself. I obviously have goals and things I want to improve (eating healthier etc) but man I'm less bothered by just about everything. I'm going back to school for a completely different career and the anxiety isn't hitting me like before. I don't plan on having kids and have been married and divorced already in my early twenties so I have nothing holding me back doing whatever I want besides myself. Society can kiss my ass.

No. 601765

I'm 28. At 20 I used to live in the ghetto and now I live in a nice neighborhood with cobblestone kitsch. I stopped my shopping addiction and actually learned how to save. I can bake without a recipe, learned how to hem, and I have more friends than I ever had before I was 25. When I used to tremble at cat-callers, now I shout at them from down the street.

I paid a bunch of money to take this pharma course while I'm laid off (legit procrastinating atm lol) but I'm at this financial and emotional point where I'm very content to just find another museum Guest Experience job. I like working and clocking out and leaving work at work, and coming home to bf to fuck and decompress. We've been talking about taking a legit vacation, which I've NEVER done before because it wasn't feasible.

Sure there has been some painful experiences, but generally it just gets better and better. I can't wait for my 30s, ya'll.

No. 601773

>>601765
silly anon you atleast need a recipe for baking, science and that.

No. 601777

>>601773
I mean if I'm baking for somebody else, definitely, but recipes generally have the same measurements! For bread it's almost always 7g yeast, ~240ml water, ~10g sugar, ~320g flour, etc. Rise/knead method (I hate kneading so I usually let dough rise for 12hrs in the fridge), additions of egg or butter depending on what it is. Usually 350F bake temp unless it's for stuff like pizza/crackly bread(450F+). Once you know how things interact with each in a sciencey way, it's so easy!! Sage for off-topic autism, lol

No. 601778

>>601777
makes sense i have a lot of recipes i remember by heart now.

No. 601795

>>601761

married and divorced in your early twenties? damn, what happened?

No. 601803

Just turned 26 last week, babeeey. Mixed feelings ever since, bouncing from "oh my god I've wasted my youth" to "lol wtf, 26 isn't even that old, what am I so down about" to back again. Years ago, fresh-out-of-college me tried to apply to grad school and did an absolute shit job of it because I had no life experience whatsoever. Now I'm toying with the idea of trying again.

No. 601807

I just turned 32 and I feel like a failure as a person because I have a shit job, literally no friends, no education, no credit (like not just bad credit, NO credit) and I’m not married like I want to be. I’m an only child with no family so around 25 I decided I actually wanted to get married and have a kid or two but I got into an abusive relationship and didnt leave until I was 30. I live with my current partner and we are very committed to each other, but marriage isn’t important to him. Since Covid, I’ve decided to not bring a child into this world. I think it’s for the best but I am still very sad about it. I feel like I’m grieving or something. Knowing I’ll never have the family I wanted so bad and the fact that I’ll always be a friendless loser…. I just feel so hopeless lately. I’m jealous of all of you who say things are getting better as you get older.

No. 601816

>>601807
I'm all for being childfree if that's what someone wants out of life, but if you actually want a baby, I don't see why covid should prevent you from having one eventually. Wait until the risk has died down, sure, but choosing never to have a child ever because there was a pandemic…? Natural disasters are inevitable, don't let that decide your future. Your partner not wanting to get married is much more of a concern tbh.

No. 601827

>>601803

26 is young as fuck. i didn't even go to law school until i was 30

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>>601795
I was in the military. It's basically a fucking meme to join, get married young to the first thing you see with a pulse, and have a messy ass divorce. I drank that dumb bitch juice.

No. 601854

>>601807
I have two kids, one I birthed during the pandemic which legitimately sucked ass. But seriously don’t let it stop you. If we stopped cause of bad shit happening, a lot of us (practically all) wouldn’t be here. Also marriage is whatever in the grand scheme of kids if you are committed to the kids.

No. 601859

>>601761
I love you anon. Cheers, to being 30 and not giving a fuck!

No. 601861

>>601410
I'm 30 and look almost exactly the same as I did when I was 20, just a bit more edge to my face but no wrinkles or sagging or nothing. If anything I definitely look better now, looking back on 20-year olds I feel like they look too young to my tastes. I wonder if my tastes will change as the years go by to always prefer people closer to my own age lol. It's always wild seeing people look at women aged 35 and gasp at awe how "well they aged" like you turn into a fucking mummy after 25.

>>601522
Honestly I feel like "the wall" concept was cooked up because after 25 most women start waking up to the real world and not taking male bullshit anymore and men needed a cope. I definitely didn't start getting a sense of self-worth until that point.

No. 601863

Turned 30 this year and honestly I’m over the moon that society lied out its ass to me about 30 being the dreaded cut-off where you suddenly transition to a living death. I’m hotter than I’ve ever been, have an awesome boyfriend, actually know who I am and don’t get annoyed by banal shit like I used to when the world was ending every other day in my early 20s, I make enough cash that I can buy what I want and take nice vacations, I’m competent at my job and moving up the hierarchy… life is fucking sweet. Sure I still have moments of stress or feeling down, but overall I know I can survive 99% of shit life throws at me and feel more sure of myself than ever. My 20s were frankly pretty shit, full of self induced misery as well as letting myself be stepped on by toxic assholes who took advantage of me before I knew better. Glad to be done with them.

No. 601864

28 and I feel and look 19

People always treat me like I'm very young too although not in a bad way. I find it humorous when they treat me as if I have the life experience of someone straight out of highschool. Then they find out I've seen some shit and feel awkward lol

I look forward to the passing of time and who I will become. Its gonna be fun

No. 601868

>>601864
My partner frequently gets mistaken for 17/18 lol. Teens will talk shit and buddy up to them then freak out when they admit they’re 27 lol

No. 601874

>>601861
>"the wall" concept was cooked up because after 25 most women start waking up to the real world and not taking male bullshit anymore and men needed a cope. I definitely didn't start getting a sense of self-worth until that point.

fucking this

No. 601880

>>601425
>my only problem is that i feel like i SHOULD want to get married and have kids and it's some weird defensive thing where i assume people around me are also thinking it. but i just have no interest in it and only think about it because of the outside pressure.
I'm feeling this, I'm 30 and I definitely experience the societal pressure of having to settle down, get married and bear some kids. I love my life as it is, being single and making a career and enjoying my friends' company and hobbies, but I have the nagging internalized feeling telling me that the clock is ticking and I should "grow up". If it was just the incels and their dead egg memes I wouldn't care but the fact that whenever I open up a magazine I see this bullshit about how being a childless single woman at 38 will mean that all your friends will be having their own little families leaving you alone and your ovaries are shriveled up and dying. I can't help but feel panicked that what if I regret my life choices at 40 like society is telling me that I will even though I'm so happy the way I am right now.

All in all the society loves to completely erase the needs, interests and personalities of women over 25. You can't be a woman at 30+. You'll have to be a wife or a mommy. I can't believe this mindset is still so alive and well in 2020, literally all the content created for women is either fashion and lifestyle for those who are aged under 26 or mommy crap and interior design for older women because they never leave their houses right. I'm hugely into fandomshit, been since my early teens, but I've noticed that when women start nearing their 30's they suddenly hide their age everywhere and stop talking about it altogether while men are free to be the 35-year old bearded "dad bod" nerds openly and stay credible and admirable. Women on the other hand fear the moment someone digs up their real age and flaunts it around laughing at how this old hag is 32 and still hanging around geek bases and/or alternative fashion. It even happens on Lolcow and I always wonder if these 21-year old girls will realize that they're only digging their own grave by taking part in shaming someone for their age because in just a few short years they'll be the ones losing sleep over becoming older.

No. 601930

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Hit up 30 a few month ago.
I thought it wouldn't affect at all but it's all there.
All those advices to not end up a spinster I read up in 'Jeune et Jolie' at 14, all the wall talk on reddit, all the pressure of not wanting kids and my window "closing".

This feeling that as a 30+ normal looking normal looking I just turned fucking invisible. People will rather talk to other men or younger prettier women if we're in a group.
It hurts and LC really help. Having a feminine space (on the internet nonetheless) with likeminded women keeps me sane. Knowing I'm not alone going through this is awesome.
Just wanted to says thanks girls, it would really be a darker place for me without you.
Sorry for not contributing to the convo, I just had to let this all out first.

No. 601931

Thanks for making this thread OP! I tried making a similar themed discord chat but it failed miserably.
Anyway, i'm 29 and I think I'm set on not ever getting married or having a kid. I could be flexible on it but the events are not motivation within themselves, you know? If I find my Nigel and have the real urge to reproduce sure. But I think men at the moment are so hopeless, they've been socialised incorrectly. Even my male bffs who are the only ones stopping me from going KAM2020 have a distinct lack of emotional intelligence and prefer to gloss over and resent instead of talk through problems. So even the dudes I respect I wouldn't consider good romantic partners. So what hope is there for me finding a life partner? I seriously dated a lot of men and they all had similar emotional dysfunctions, and that's on top of more standard male dysfunctions.

Also career is going awful. I'm unemployed and looking, but soon enough will need to move back to my home country and parents house. Where it's pretty dysfunctional and I'll definitely regress and take a hit to my mental health. Which I think will set me right back and have me feeling even worse about being where I am at my age. I've lived in several countries and worked minimum wage to afford it so always felt like I was making progress, but my failure to get an actual decent job in a long time makes me feel like I've had a real failure to launch.

No. 601940

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Just popping in to say hi to all the elder farmers in here and I hope you have a great day.

No. 601944

>>601880
>It even happens on Lolcow and I always wonder if these 21-year old girls will realize that they're only digging their own grave by taking part in shaming someone for their age because in just a few short years they'll be the ones losing sleep over becoming older.
I've always wondered this too.
Like, when you call a 30yo woman an "old hag", are you really so full of hubris that you think you'll look any different when you get older? 30 isn't that far off in the grand scheme of things if you're 21, do you really only plan to live 9 more years and then commit suicide when the only thing you build your value around, your young age, disappears? And you don't think that's pathetic as fuck? Love yourself.

No. 601949

OP thanks for this thread, you're doing God's work.

No. 601952

>>601931
Anon, there’s a reason of why women (especially in the west) marry less and less. Men are indeed horrible and I think it’s a good thing that you’ve decided to not focus on it.

No. 601954

>>601931
Would you try again for the discord? Dunno about others but i would be interested for sure.

No. 601957

>>601944
In your late teens/early 20s you think you're immortal and that it will last forever because you don't have that many responsibilities and the world has many possibilities for a young person. They probably imagine that they'll be automatically married with children at 29 and settle to live a quiet domestic adult life. Too bad it's not the case for many young people these days and the girls who hang around places like Lolcow probably aren't the most normie type living the fast track of following the tradition.

But in all honesty it's the fault of society completely forgetting about the women who passed 30. Like >>601930 said you'll become invincible in everyone's eyes. Unless you're a mother and find fulfillment in your kids, you're an oddball who should learn her place in the shadows. I think back to Nicole Kidman's speech about how Hollywood throws women in the trash after they pass the treshhold of 28 and it's true. Women are always expected to not live for themselves but for others because of the "nurturing" meme, that's why career women are frowned upon. They're creating a comfortable life for themselves instead of wiping the noses and changing the diapers of their children (or husband for that matter) so they piss people off simply for being self-reliant and looking out for themselves instead of constant sacrificing for the benefit of the people around them.

No. 601958

>>601880
Tbf I’m seeing a lot more 30+ aged women in fandom spaces and even encountered a 50 year old fan fic writer in the wilds on twitter. They’re pretty open about their age but I know some of them don’t do it because of teens coming in telling them that fandom shit belongs to them lmao which is stupid because it’s always older people writing and drawing the good stuff. And giving them the content in the first place.
Tbh I expect to see more older people stay in fandom related shit and developing their own communities.

No. 601960

>>601931
>>601954
Seconding the request for the discord - that'd be fun!

No. 601961

>>601827
AYRT here - that's nice to hear, actually. May I ask if you had planned to go to law school at that age? Just wondering what other people's deciding-to-go-to-grad-school experiences are like.

No. 601971

>>601957
The more women do this the more normalized it will become, if everyone around you pressures you into something and you see no other way to be, you're a lot more likely to cave to the pressure.

It's really sad because then you get a lot of miserable people with unfulfilled lives who have kids and resent them for it and treat them like shit or try to live out their dreams by turning their kids into some mini-me.

I like to think I can be the encouragement some teenage girl needs to pursue her dreams and do what makes her happy regardless of what society says. If I survived being bullied for 8 years by everyone in my town for being a weeaboo, I can survive people giving me shit for not having kids and a husband.

No. 601973

>>601958
It makes sense, a lot of people will keep their old interests as they age. And some might get into it as they get older, like the old granny who streams Skyrim on yt.
How dumb of kids to think that they own a fandom, unless it's something aimed at younger people.

I wonder how old the oldest farmer is?

No. 601975

>>601973
I remember some farmer mentioning her being 40+, and I also have a vague memory of someone being like 80 or close to it.

>>601958
I think in the future the age range of people visiting sites like lolcow and hanging around fandom spaces will be a lot broader in the future because weeb/nerdy online communities allow you to keep in touch and take part anywhere thanks to the internet and portable smart devices. I know a lot of people who have had kids but still keep the fandom an important part of their lives, even introduce their kids to parts of it like cosplaying together at conventions. And because we have a sizable amount of people remaining childless due to their own choice or factors like being same-sex attracted it's going to become a lot easier to be 30+ and a part of the community.

Honestly my secret dream is that if I ever get children I want to do cute couple cosplays with them lmao. All of my friends who have had kids have done it and they have so much fun because children usually like dressing up.

No. 601977

When ever I start to feel sad and lonely because I’m 28 and single I remember even young and gorgeous rich women like Kylie Jenner get cheated on by ugly scrotes who make less money than them. The dating market is shit for all women and that comforts me in some way.

No. 601988

>>601977
I'm 29 and recently single and hate what I know about dating and men. I don't know if it's due to age, the experiences I've had and the curse of hingsight that basically every relationship I've had and couple I've known personally have all had many issues with cheating and emotional cheating. I use to think it was a meme that most men were dicks and liars and all cheaters. I ended up dating an abusive drug addict and he was dumb enough to not hide anything from me even introducing me to extremely unpleasant people (some involved in gangs, prostitution, drug dealing and even hitmen). A lot of these people had normal jobs and backgrounds. I've became much more aware of brothels (they're literally everywhere) and the people that use them. How cheap sex is and convenient to get. A guy can disappear from a bar and return in under an hour after purchasing sex. I've been privy to conversations about men cheating on their pregnant wives with whores, feeling no remorse. I've been by other men laughing about men they know in their 40s going out on the pull and becoming hostile if their target doesn't put out. Literally was told a man bit some woman because she was trying to get her friend away from him.

I've honestly heard so many other disgusting and dehumanising things. It's made me even reanalyse past relationships and find red flags. Men let their mates cheat all the time. I don't think I believe in monogamy anymore or it would take a lot to make me believe in it again. I even know stories about workplaces where Thai massage business cards were passed around to the men in the company by a manager who bragged about his happy ending at lunch. He's married too of course.

I've even had a mate that's a decorator tell me he use to wank over clients photos on his break. Offered an older client money for head and this was after him forcing his gf at the time to get an abortion. I don't talk to him anymore but he was a super religious type too which just goes to show its literally rampant between the gang bangers to the church goers.

I've been so down about relationships and love lately I even talked myself into seeing this guy I knew wasn't good because I was bored and lonely. Trying to justify if I'm not told he's doing x, y and z then I'm not a fool for dating him. Or other thoughts like, sure thingy cheats on her all the time and they have a family and seem happy, maybe that's why he bought her a car this is just normal. I've even been hit in my latest relationship and justified it because I know of other girls that got hit and stayed in relationships. Like it's absolutely mental. I've always wanted a family and kids but men scare the fuck out of me. I'm 29 and jaded. This was all over the place I apologise

No. 601993

>>601931
>>601988

Omg this hit close to home. I'm also 29 and sometimes contemplate if it's time to start making babies. But like you guys I don't have enough hope in a male partner. Almost all men I know are either drug addicts, alcoholics, man-children or mentally ill (and not interested in seeking therapy or changing their lives). It feels like my fate is to be the stepping stone of a lost man rather than having a mutually fulfilling relationship

No. 601995

>>601993
Porn and casual sex are the issue. In the old days men had work hard and impress a woman before she even considered going on a date. Now a guy can just watch a porno or fuck a random from tinder so they have no reason to work hard for anything anymore and the only reason they ever tried at all was for pussy.

Yeah I’d love to get married and have children before I hit the wall but who the fuck am I supposed to have these children with?lol

No. 602007

>>601995
Nah, going hitting prostitutes before coming home as always been a thing. It's not porn doing that to men. It's just that (most) men are disgusting pigs thiking it's absolutely normal to come back to a hot dinner after a bj in an allywey.
I wrote some stories a prostitute friend of mine told me a few thread ago. Colleagues passing up infos about the best whores in town and such.
It's just how men are. They don't see it as disgusting. They don't question it. They just enjoy it. It was a thing way before porn existed.
Sometimes, you hit the jackpot and find yourself someone decent that won't participate in this shit but don't fool your self. Your father, your brother, your co-worker, the nice cute cashier at the 7/11, the handyman repairing your broken door? Some of them have FOR SURE paid some poor girl to use as a living hole.
I know I'll come off as bitter and crazy but just talk to some sex workers and you'll see.

No. 602009

>>601995
You're right and referring back to >>601977, men don't even care about looks as much as convenience. One guy I know has two children with this absolutely gorgeous woman my age yet I've known two absolute dogs he's cheated on her with while she's been at home with the kids.

I don't believe this is only a new thing. I think it's too do with the means men have and if they can get what they want. When my dad was struggling in his career was when my family was at its happiest. When he made it big and had excess wealth he started being more blatant about his cheating. My mum only recently told me a story that while they were dating he hooked up with a coworker and she and him called off sick together. My mum worked in the same company. They broke up but he "won" her back. Then once he made enough so she could be a stay at home mum he just went back to his old ways. My own brother has went down his path and now has a son he doesn't give two shits about. Finding out my own brother that was raised by my mum to be respectful goes to brothels, has casual sex, has affairs with married women, requested a girl get an abortion for him. Where are all the good men lol

No. 602011

>>601995
Tbh I dont think the (only) issue is excessive wanking. I think it's also that in general men lack ambition, drive and social skills. They are taught be to entitled too so they don't care to try develop any of those traits either. I don't think girls hit any wall coz most girls are still concerned with moving their life forward and gaining XP. Men often get stuck in mindsets of teenagers which is why they can be 35 y old but still think it's hella cool and rebellious to pass out drunk, be drug addicts, be unemployed, sleep around and be overall shitlords

No. 602012

>>602007
(samefag >>602009) you're right about sex work. Adding on another sorry about my dad I remember when I was around 13 I was staying at my dad's house. We drove into the city to get my brother and his mate from a gig they would have been 16. My dad drove us with me in the front seat to where the prostitutes "hang out". My dad was laughing with the boys, and calling some of the girls dogs. There were some scantily dressed and others in tracksuits and baseball caps. My dad slowed his car down to taunt one. He did that with me in the car when him and his girlfriend were suppose to be watching us for the weekend. Thst really stuck with me for years. Like I love my dad but I know he's a pig.

No. 602022

Sorry about putting a damper on the thread with the men/porn talk (it is something you lear the hard way at 30+ tho)

Could we talk libido? Mine dried up fucking years ago. I don't know if it's age, being in a LTR or having the implant, but i really miss it. I used to be a very horny teenager so I wonder if it's the hormones.

No. 602026

>>602022

I haven’t had a shag in over a year, anon, and I’m not really bothered. Probably 5+ years on Prozac but I need that to function with literally everything else in my life so whatever I guess.

No. 602028

>>602022

How often do you get down to it in an LTR? Every relationship I’ve had has started hot and heavy and dried out to nothing within a few years, I don’t think I could or would dare to try to push through that, just break up and move on.

No. 602030

>>602022
I went off birth control at 25 after being on it since age 17. I've recently turned 26 and I have to say my libido feels like I'm a teen again. I actually initiate sex with my boyfriend a lot more and find it easier to lose myself in the moment. I think the combo birth control was cucking me

No. 602034

>>602022
I came off birth control (combination pill) after a decade and I've been more horny than I was as a teen. Maybe it is the contraceptive?

No. 602036

>>602028
Honestly, almost never. We were fucking like rabbits 10 years ago (I'm talking like 3-4 times a day, every fucking day), but now…. like once a month maybe?
Not trying for a baby so what's even the point when we could both be doing hobbies we'd rather be doing?
We've put on some weight (working on it, but it's not helping rn).

I won't lie, I miss it. But eh, can't have my sexy 23yo body (not pumped full of those kill babies hormones) so I guess it won't get better.
Maybe a new guy would rev' up the engine but I can't do that to my Nigel.

No. 602038

>>602030
What was it? The pill?

No. 602044

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In reference to this post: when I first started posting here a couple years ago I was in my early 20s and always had the impression that the majority of the userbase was actually a bit older than me. Like PULL is for teens and and lolcow is for adults. Nowadays there suddenly seem to be so many farmers below 20 but I don't really believe that the users aged 25+ or 30+ suddenly left, it's just that the younger girls are much more vocal.

Sadly, I personally still haven't come to terms with aging, my life so far wasn't really happy or successful, so I feel quite regretful and as if I missed out on a lot, that I wasted my youth… My interests and tastes are still so childish.
How do you deal with this, anonettes? I only have one mommy friend but I know so many girls my age and much younger who are already married, own a house, live with a guy, are engaged and so on. I just feel like a loser. It's not like I'm jealous, I have no interest in marriage or babies, but I also feel like society judges you for being a single adult woman who only wants to shop, travel, have fun. Plus those things are only really nice when you do them with girlfriends, but suddenly all women around you solely spend time with their men, so it's difficult.

>>601621
I didn't manage to make any friends while in university, my old high school friends all moved on and I don't have a bf either, so I don't really know what to do. Join some sport clubs? Dance lessons? Evening school for language learning? Using an app? I kind of would prefer to meet new people organically and not through apps or my job (nothing worse than always having to talk about work).

>>601973
I remembered that there's an anon who claimed to be 45+ 2 years ago >>>/ot/241842

No. 602068

>>601506
I hated my early 20’s too. Worst time in my fucking life and it doesn’t help that most people seem to think it is the best time. It isn’t.

I wasted way too much of my fucking 20’s trying to be kind and “fit in”, because I had been guilt tripped by my dumbass retard family and other old fucks as a quiet teen that I needed to “get out more”, blah blah blah, all that crap that people are uwu spesharu and shit. Of the one or two genuinely worthwhile individuals I have come across these years who don’t seem either crazy, cruel, or just dumber than a knob, I have just gone back to being the quiet easygoing lazy fuck I have always been, just with a tinge of bitterness from all my missed opportunities and unnecessary pain.

I was so fucking stressed out about getting a good job (laughs in coronavirus), getting good grades, being a good person, and it all means shit at the end of the day.

I regret how I essentially put on this big act to be a person I really wasn’t, instead of appreciating who I actually was, just so retards would get off my back about how “quiet” people are never successful, and that reading books isn’t how you get a job! Just lots of really brain numbingly dumb shit you hear a lot in the US when you aren’t this effervescent woke social butterfly. I remember even changing my own beliefs/values to get on with dumbasses instead of just being honest. I didn’t need to try so hard, but I did, and I hardly recognize the person I was between 20-24. She’s like this weird ass ghost in my life who has my face but not my soul, and I feel for her. I wish I could go back in time and tell myself, be you, so I wouldn’t feel so trapped by the vision of myself other people wanted me to be and failing to be that.

No. 602069

>>602022
I've never had a libido really because I was put on anti depressants and contraception at the age of 14 and I don't remember feeling that sexual before that age. I'd love to know what it feels like to suddenly get turned on and initiate. My ex and current partner have complained about me not initiating as often as they do, but honestly, I just don't get that urge they seem to get. I love having sex and being sexual with my boyfriend and once I am doing it I enjoy it so much. I get upset and a bit jealous when I hear of other girls getting turned on by things, if I'm honest. I'd love to get that feeling.

This isn't to say I'm not sexually attracted to things. My brain is firing off the signals but my body is so numbed by my implant (no longer on anti-d's!) that I am thinking of taking a break from it for a few months once it runs out this year, just to see if I am actually a sexual person. My anti depressants made it so much worse and I couldn't orgasm for years and was drier than a bucket of sand. Baby steps, I guess. Just feel a bit robbed of my sexuality.

No. 602071

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>>602044
As far as feeling inferior, that’s the whole point. Society wants to put you in your place and stay where you “belong” to continue the cycle of men’s comfort.
How to change it? I started to say yes to myself. My comfort first, carrying these hoes and scrotes is heavy and I got diminishing returns for it. Time to focus on yourself and say yes to doing things that make you happy. Try doing it on your own for real and not just telling yourself you will. Nothing changes if you don’t do anything different. Also don’t make excuses. Not you specifically, but I always see girls asking for advice when they’re lonely/different and anons give advice and they never take it! They just talk in a circle about being forever alone in friendship and romance and change nothing because hurr durr what’s the point. Being an old farmer my patience has worn thin for the “woe is me”s who would rather stay unhappy and complain than actually try to create their own happiness. No excuses, just do the thing it won’t kill you hoes.

No. 602083

>>602071
I came to your Ted talk bit found it unconvincing.
Of course, they won't take the advice. The goal is to nudge them again and again 'till they get there.

No. 602109

I'm 39 it's fucking awesome I literally don't give a shit about anything except the stuff I like. I never wanted kids or a spouse and have all my energy to myself.

No. 602112

>>602069
I could have written this anon. I feel you so much.

No. 602116

>>602112
It's a load of shite isn't it? I honestly worry about the long term effects of contraception. It feels like one long and weird science experiment. I have spoke with my bf about him getting a vasectomy (it's free and easier for men to get it in our country) but he said no, so I am now saving to get sterilised. It will cost about £4000. I can get it free, but they only offer it to those who have had children, normally. I have asked for it 3 times before, but they wont budge, so I am now having to go my own way. It's a very frustrating situation.

No. 602119

>>602069
can the implant affect your libido negatively? I've lost mine before I got the implant but now I am trying to reverse the fuckery somehow and I am wondering if losing the implant might help…

No. 602121

>>602116
Most versions of sterilization fuck you over too. They mess with your hormones, possibly put you into early menopause. I had an emergency hysterectomy and it was awful. Women who get their tubes tied experience a lot of pains or the ones who get them I think lasered (?) possibly have them seal back together.

No. 602122

I wrote about this before but now that I'm 29 and looking back its really surprising how much I leveled out in the last few years. So much I was lowkey worried I was depressed because I cry way less now than I used to. I've been with my partner for all my 20s basically and can recall how I'd have so many stretches of just feeling unhappy despite never being in really bad circumstances. Frankly I firmly do believe money can buy happiness or at least stave off anxiety and depression because since we started making enough to not have to worry about day to day expenses there is a new ease. On the flip side all my hobby friends are younger than me and everyone I meet thinks I'm in my early-mid 20s too and dealing with the same stuff they are.

No. 602124

>>602116
Yeah… I'm too afraid to get off or change pills, side effects are so scary.

And lately i've been having awful vaginal pain when getting penetrated… So this is just killing my sex life a bit more. I love my bf soo much but I just feel like I'm a burden to him even though he is so considerate about sex, pleasure and pain.

Doesn't help that I have to wait four months to see my gyneco… I hope it's nothing serious, life sucks rn

No. 602128

>>602119
I honestly couldn't tell you. I was on the combined pill at 14 and haven't been off hormones since. Switched to the implant at 23 and while I have felt a bit 'better', it still isn't normal. It's fucking weird.

>>602121
Shit, really? I was going to get a bilateral salpingectomy which is the removal of the tubes. I had heard of women dealing with pain from clips and things, but not a bi-salp. I am sorry to hear about your hysterectomy though. That sounds so rough. Looks like I have a bit more reading to do.

>>602124
I am also scared of getting pregnant. I think I'd have a breakdown or something. That sounds a bit scary, but it could just be something like hormones? I find at certain points in my cycle, it is either very easy or very difficult to have sex. Right before my period is fine, but just after, it's like my vag has been sapped of all it's energy. Shit's whack.

No. 602132

>>602128
Ahah, maybe i have no vag energy left lol
We'll see, i'll come back crying in 4 months if i have a tumor or something.

I don't want to ruin the positive energy of you fierce ladies but i really hope covid goes away and life gets better! Haven't had the chance to stabilize in life yet, and covid ruined the little balance I had. Still only in my 20s tho!! I have time!

No. 602134

>>602132
Keep us posted, for sure. We might be anonymous but we care! And girl yes, you have so much time. Make little changes while you can, it will add up over time.

No. 602136

>>602128
Make sure to get opinions or find blogs/a group of women who had it done. From what I’ve learned, the most common issue is always the doctors never warn you of things that could happen. Hope whatever you choose goes well for you and you don’t receive any side effects obviously.

No. 602140

Trying to get my Nigel the snip. He's staunchly anti having kid but still, nope, won't do it.
I stated the fact that the hormones were fucking up my body while the snip would be a fucking sharp pain and two days of sores balls. Still nope.
I can get out of my head that it's just that he want the option to change his mind, with another woman, later. I pointed the hypocrisy and he went so sour that I was reading him like a fucking book.
It keeps me up at night. I'm getting my ducks in a row financially and career wise and if he has not married me or got the snip in a year, I'm out.

No. 602149

>>602140
I don't get why they wont either. My bf is the same. He said he'd do it, but the thought of having local anaesthetic in his balls puts him off and the potential he might piss a bit of blood. Yet it's okay for me to increase my risk of cancer, have erratic periods, zero sex drive and crazy PMS symptoms like mood swings and debilitating migraines. He really dislikes kids, and so do I, so I dunno why he wont do it. I get it's his body, and that's fine, but I just don't get why it's okay for me to poison myself with hormones, because it's happening to me and not him. He can't bear the thought of a quick sting and a bit of blood.

No. 602150

>>602149
>>602140
Can they just like freeze a bunch of their sperm and still have the possibility to have their own biological kids in 20 years?

Selfish idiots

No. 602151

>>602140
You're doing the right thing, anon.

I wanted to have my tubes tied by the time I was 30, but I've been looking into the possible complications so instead, my Nigel had the snip. We got an appointment really quickly and the procedure was done in minutes, he said it didn't even hurt and he got a whole plate of biscuits from a nurse afterward, lol. I still kind of want my tubes out as a back-up kinda thing, but reading things here about hormone changes and early menopause are making me reconsider.

No. 602152

>>602150
No idea. I said that to him, also the success rate for reversals in vasectomies is pretty good. It's very frustrating. When I mentioned wanting to get sterilised, he's all for it, and keeps saying if I get off contraception we can just use condoms but I don't trust them at all. It makes me wish there was a switch or something to turn off my ability to have kids.

No. 602153

>>602151
You lucky, lucky girl. Keep tight hold of him. Never let him go!

No. 602154

Does anyone else ever feel like they're too old to find solace in media? It's weird because I'm an artist+writer myself and realize that the entire appeal of art is that it makes you feel, but I can't help but feel like I'm acting like an immature, angsty teenager whenever I find myself drawn to a song because its lyrics resonate with me.

No. 602157

>>602151
Fucking envious of your Nigel.
I think things are over with mine. Asked him if he wanted to marry, said nope, and now that I say it's a deal-breaker for me, suddenly, he's open to it. Oh, like, great! You don't want to symbolise our love, you're just interested in keeping me around (but not enough to even get me a fucking cheap ring - not greedy, anything would do just for symbolic). Like I'm going to be overjoyed you're wanting it now…

No. 602166

>>602154
What? You're never too old to enjoy a good song anon.

No. 602167

>>602140
>>602149
Why don't you two just go off the pill and take PIV off the table until they nut up? You don't have to fuck your body up just to let some scrote jizz inside you.

No. 602168

>>602154
Same. Can’t even enjoy music etc anymore.

No. 602169

>>602154
Sort of. I used to learn about new music, books and movies way more organically. Like, reading about a band’s influences and listening to those or reading an author’s entire collection. Now everything is hyper automated, like you almost can’t focus on one thing (artist, tv show, etc) without being suggested further related things. I can see the appeal of this but it makes me feel like my attention span has lessened so I’ve basically been watching/reading/listening to the same stuff for the past 15 years. I’m 29 and feel like a fucking boomer.

No. 602172

>>602167
Yeah, sure, they'll bring some delightfully painful anal. Or get some happy ending at a massage parlor.
wonderful idea.

No. 602177

>>602172
Like using hands, oral, and frottage wouldn't be possible?

No. 602178

>>602154
Mm, not quite this but I've noticed I'm much pickier about the media I consume. It's gotten tougher to find things that really resonate with me, but honestly I think it's just because I have better taste now. So that's a trade-off I've been happy to make.

Even so, I do kinda miss feeling like every new release within x genre or from y band was going to be the next best thing. I rarely "get hyped" for anything and I'm really lucky to find something that clicks maybe once or twice a year. But at least it's more meaningful now.

No. 602183

>>601961

i hadn't! it was something i had always had in the back of my mind but i told myself that it was too late/my undergrad experience wasn't impressive enough for me to get in anywhere, etc. i had just gotten out of a terrible relationship and honestly just kind of had an elle woods moment and was like fuck it, let's do this, ended up getting offered multiple scholarships and am doing great. it's never too late and i would just LOVE to destroy this notion about life ending after 25.

No. 602192

>>602177
I mean sure. But I do really enjoy some good PIV and wouldn't want to throw it away. Plus frottage, anal and such could still bring about an oopsie with all the leaking.
I don't want ANY risk of getting pregnant. The anxiety of it being possible actually dries me up completely.

No. 602201

>>602172
I resent this. I was fucking a guy every time I saw him and he still fooled around and fucked other girls on lads nights out / paid for a whore with his dad.

No. 602252

>>602109
That‘s great to hear, anon! Thanks for sharing!

No. 602285

>>601807
maybe this is an unpopular opinion, but I think it's responsible and admirable when people acknowledge that it might not be the best idea to bring a child into this world. so many people have kids when they have financial problems, relationship issues, not enough time or patience to devote to kids, etc.

even aside from that, it's a bit narcissistic imo to create new life when the world is so unstable, what with climate change looming and everything that comes along with it. you're putting your desire to have miniature versions of yourself above all else–even the wellbeing of your own offspring. reproduction is the most destructive thing a person could do for the ecosystem. one person consumes a ridiculous amount of resources within a lifetime. and for what? what kind of life will the new generation have 20, 40, 60 years from now? there is a very real possibility of intense and widespread suffering. when the pandemic began it was impossible to find toilet paper in stores because of hoarding. what happens when shit really hits the fan? wars over clean water, famines, a virus that kills anyone it infects… the possibilities are endless and very real.

for me, if I ever decide that I have room in my life for children, I will look into adopting or becoming a foster parent. there are so many kids without family who need a supportive and loving home. they don't need to have my genetic material in order to be mine.

wrt to being a "friendless loser"–be kind to yourself. just because you don't have friends right now doesn't mean things will always be that way, and it doesn't make you a loser. this might sound dumb but something that helped my perspective is hearing Chloe Ting say that she doesn't have many friends. I absolutely adore her, I think she's so funny and sweet (and so do millions of other people). having no friends doesn't make her any less likeable. it's just a product of circumstance, not an indicator that something is fundamentally wrong with you.

No. 602299

>>602172
>>602140
That bitch ain't Nigel

No. 602307

>>602285
I hate this way of thinking cause it’s always other people saying others should stop doing something for destroying the planet. If we are such wastes of space and you believe that, what’s stopping you from offing yourself to “save precious resources”? We wouldn’t be here if they stopped cause of bad things happening.

No. 602314

>>602307
i agree with this. i think there's nothing wrong with having children or wasting resources on them or even trying if and wasting those resources. earth is too fucked that a few extra children and ifs aren't going to matter. it's extremely disingenuous to assert that, and i generally dislike children and don't plan on having them. the individual has no power over fixing the environment, especially not as late as it is.

No. 602320

I know they say the wall is a thing but I’ve noticed since nearing my 30s men in my age group are more desperate to settle down. These same scrotes who would’ve pumped and dumped me when we were teens, now want to move in with me after a month. I notice guys start getting just as desperate as we do around this age.

No. 602325

>>602140
You are smarter than this, do NOT waste another extra year on him.

No. 602330

>>602320
the wall is a scrote cope. Women are onto their shit by 30. I wouldn't even dream of putting up with the shit I did in my 20s.

idk when I got to 30 I stopped caring about moids and their opinions as much. I wish scrotes were right and they did leave women over 30 alone, but alas.

No. 602333

Any other anons have almost zero interaction with guys? I don’t know if they assume I’m already in a relationship or if I just look like shit but guys rarely ever talk to or approach me. I’m 28 and tbh I really enjoy not having to deal with them

No. 602338

>>602333
Unless out drinking not really. I think men do realise women start to catch on to their shite. Being around men doing drugs has made me judge older women that are still in to all their uppers and party drugs. That's a guaranteed way to gain attention. Essentially unless you look easy you don't get approached.

No. 602350

>>602330

the wall is 100% a cope as someone in their 30s with other friends in their 30s. i don't use dating apps so i don't know what shit is like on there but i still have men of all ages hitting me up constantly and am usually assumed to be in my 20s, and this isn't meant to be some kind of brag because i genuinely think most women in their 30s look great. just wear sunscreen and eat healthy for the most part. "the wall" is for men who can't come to grips with the fact that the ultimate sign of unattractive aging is a receding hairline. can't relate.

No. 602357

>>602350
I also think we need to stop equating beauty with youth. Just because a woman looks 30-40 doesn’t mean she’s ugly or not attractive.

No. 602372

Does drinking water will help with can at all? Have you seen any improvements?

No. 602374

>>602307
suggesting that someone kill herself for having an opinion you don't agree with? sounds like you're a mom and I hit a nerve. I'm not about to commit suicide or murder people because I'm concerned about the environment lmao

>>602314
> the individual has no power over fixing the environment, so we're totally justified in making things worse
kek

I don't expect everyone to agree with me, and I support everyone's right to make their own choices. I'm not some eugenics-obsessed freak. I just think it's sad that so many people have kids without thinking of the consequences. judging from my own social media observations, the people having the most kids are the ones who are least educated, least successful, and have the most problems. all this is to say that I think women are justified in questioning the societal pressure to have kids. if you take this assertion personally, maybe that says more about you than it does about me

No. 602384

>>602372
Are you okay anon?

No. 602394

>>601522
>I had to get married for a visa so they would always say shit like "you're a married woman, why are you wearing a miniskirt?". Unfortunately I believed them and began dressing in dowdy bizcas until I broke up with my manchild ex and started dressing how I want.

Anon, I just want you to know you are based and I wish I could be more like you.

No. 602396

>>602285
I don’t want to have kids because I love my freedom and having money to spend on myself. I do not envy my friends who are parents. The pictures on insta are cute and all, but I know that’s shit on you’re shirt and you haven’t slept in a week lol. Being a mom is a hard, thankless job.

No. 602400

oh another thing i hate is the notion that we all have to suddenly start dressing frumpy and unfun

No. 602402

>>602374
Well I'm pro kids and wish I had my own I'm willing to age out waiting for the right circumstances and engaging with the thoughts of adopting or fostering if I only become financial secure enough and stable geographically past fertility, I also agree with your points.

I am sensitive and for whatever reason my childhood trauma has really stuck with me so while people think I'm childish, I do feel like I can still emphasise with children. I have a nephew and his mum is not great. I hate to be judgemental since I'm not a mum but she chooses buying drugs over new shoes for her toddler. She's not even a young mum she's my age and will be 30 next year. I know of a lot of similarly aged women that have kids with less than stable men, some openly take drugs in front of their kids and I've stopped going over to their homes. I cannot tell you how horrible it is to be the parents friends when the kids are seeking attention from their parents that you can tell ignore them, their speech is usually delayed and a lot of them are in nappies up until nursery. I've also noticed the trend of autism being claimed entirely too quickly by some mums as an almost cop out of criticism to their lack of parenting. My nephews mother had claimed my nephew is high functioning autistic but its really obvious he's autistic so he doesn't need an official diagnosis but trust her. There's a lot of selfish people having kids when they can't seem to grasp they now have to consider their kids in everything. You can't keep ditching them on grandparents or family.

No. 602404

>>601371
How do you do, fellow crones? I also bought into the whole “life ends at 30” meme and have been delighted to discover that, contrary to popular belief, Hell no it doesn’t! As a young lass in my teens and early 20s, I was so overwhelmingly self-conscious that I could scarcely function in public. But now I find that the older I get, the comfier I feel in my own skin and the more at home I feel in the world.

No. 602410

>>601679
Fuck, I so need a kindred spirit. I miss my exbf so bad sometimes, even though I don't want her back. I just want a connection with another woman so bad. At the moment I only have my boyfriend and that's it. I need to find a kindred spirit but IDK how. I am more retarded than average when it comes to social interaction as I have intense AVPD. I've been in therapy for a few months but have not gotten better yet at all. Most people bore me and I have no idea how to meet another weirdo like myself especially since I don't want online friends, I need someone irl (even if we would see each other twice a month or something).
This feels so hopeless. Fuck.

No. 602420

>>602400
I really feel that the perception of 30 being the 'cut off' for a woman having a life and interests and looking cute is because people couldn't fathom a 30 year old woman without kids in the past. Realistically, it's when you have young kids that you don't have the time for dressing up and are too busy for their hobbies. The later/less women have kids, the less people will think we magically turn into frumpy old crones who are too mature for the things we enjoy on the night of our 30th bday.

Though lots of people do think you need to start dressing business casual when you hit 30, /r/femalefashionadvice is rampant with it. Maybe the motherhood age will be replaced by fancy career woman age and we'll always have dumb arbitrary standards about what we can and can't wear.

No. 602423

>>602400
This. I didn't even get a stable job until my late 20's that would afford me to get all the cute and fun quality brand clothes that I wanted, I'll be damned if I can't wear all the nice shit I dreamed about in my early 20's. I already have to dress conservatively for my office job so I don't want to wear the same boring business casual during my free time. If I want to dress up in a crop top and altshit at 30 I fucking will and people will have to deal with it.

No. 602435

I'm 29 and I almost bought into the settling down meme a few years back. Like ok, you're 26 now, time to live with a man and stop having fun. Turns out the man was a complete scrote using me as his 2 in 1 therapist+sex doll and I noped the fuck out last year. I haven't been happier since. Too bad I don't have any siblings so I won't be anyone's "cool spinster aunt" but I intend to live my life at my best.
And I also look better than 10 years ago. I lost a lot of fat and got rid of the teenage acne. I'm way more confident now.

No. 602439

>>602400
As the younger sister I spent my childhood and adolescence in hand-me-downs, so something I really enjoy as an adult is being able to buy my own properly fitting clothes instead of only wearing what my sibling had.

No. 602443

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>stop dating men around 28
>force myself to take up hobbies outside the internet
>go through a bunch but find out I love gardening and baking
>git gud at it
>moids always begging for my sweet treats, asking when imma come bake for them
>kek no baked goods for scrotes
>start blocking all the scrotes that make me feel bad or hit on me
>not many friends left but that's ok
>have too many hobbies to be a scrotes therapist anymore
>block scrote as soon as they dump their issues on me
>scrotes chasing me 10x harder now
>they see me being distant as a challenge
>mfw

being 30+ is awesome anons please don't waste your 20s worrying about it.

No. 602529

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32 and getting ready to hang up the party towel to try for one and only one child.

My early 20s were cringey. My mid-20s were just sad for various reason (family health issues, no money, no real prospect). I wouldn't say I pulled myself up by bootstraps but I did realize feeling sorry for myself and turning my back on the world didn't get me what I wanted at all (shocking). I think the hardest part is I'm the oldest girl out of all my friends and they're kind of all waiting to see if I get preggo. I do want children, I wouldn't say I'm obsessed with them like some women are, but I honestly can't imagine going into the next 2/3s of life without having 1 kid. I'm nearing the end of ideal time to try. That said, it's not like my single/kidless friends are really ballin hard with cash or exciting experiences.I love hanging out still but my homelife is cozy, and I think a kid would give me something to direct my energy towards. My old hobbies don't really excite me anymore, and just throwing money at plastic shit and travel isn't as satisfying as it once was.

My friends are all slowing down. We definitely aren't doing 48hr hang-outs like we used to. There is a noticeable difference in a 31/32 year old and even a 28/30 year old drinking and partying. Everyone can basically only handle one night, once a week, and everyone wants to be home in their own bed by 10.

This year was supposed to be my one last hooray but it's taught me that waiting is pointless. You never know what's in the future. All the people I idolize or are envious of just keep moving forward. I have fears about becoming a mother, but I am a master procrastinator and if I don't go for it, I'll let it pass me by. Wish me luck.

No. 602531

>>602299
I thought he was. He's pretty cool, open-minded and sure af not fucking prostitute (or it's some really sad back alley deal 5€ with a lady with no teeth kek) since I control all finances.
It's a rude awakening, because he was a Nigel in any other way.

No. 602536

>>602529
Please don't have an only child anon. I'm an only child and I turned out okay but I basically had to push myself to learn social skills and taking the initiative myself since my parents babied me a lot at a young age. Pretty much all only children are either entitled as fuck or super weird (think incels if male).

No. 602537

28 here giiiirls

>>602536
Ugh I’m an only child too and I have 1, single parent, I want some more but I think my uterus is wrecked and I have hormonal issues etc. I definitely wanted a big family but I have barely even been in any relationships in the past 10 years and men are shit what do

But otherwise honestly I’m ready for 30’s

No. 602544

>>602536
I'm an only child and tbh it's great. It forces you to make friends and be more outgoing, and you value friendships more because you don't have a sibling to fall back on as a "default friend". Not to mention the horror of being a significantly older sibling and having to babysit a toddler for free whenever your parents feel like it.

I come from a place where only kids are the norm and I've never had issues socializing, on the contrary.

No. 602547

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>>602420
Kek, Thanks I'll be Diane Lockhart in a power suit at freaking 68yo. That would be awesome. (loving a her representation on TV also. Spinster but not bitter, no kids but preferring her career, still a love life at 60+). Real depth betong being the 'female older lawyer) - her arc on questioning her own sanity was awesome.
I sure look up to that character.

No. 602548

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>>602536
Uhhh I have a brother who's trooning out. We don't speak. My boyfriend and his sister have an awkward relationship, so does my ex and his little brother. We're all products of parents who had to juggle two kids, the eldest always being the practice kid and the youngest always being the spoilt or babied one, instead of pooling resources to make a great only child. In my experience, nearly all the lone children I know turn out to be successful– there's always a shittier sibling and you're doomed if both your kids turn out to be shit.

No. 602549

>>602544
My husband had that but my daughter is too close to my son’s age to babysit. They’d just end up hanging out alone lol with my daughter being the “authority” due to being legally allowed to be alone with him haha

No. 602550

>>602536
Wtf is this weird forced birth shit, women should have as many kids as they want and not a single more. God forbid a kid have to learn social skills on their own, if that's even a safe assumption based on your sample size of one.

No. 602557

>>602536
I have 5 other siblings and still don't have any social skills.

No. 602569

>>602548
Kek, I´m the shitty sibling, and my autistic ass was super dependent on my sister, poor girl. I'm trying to make up for it by helping my parents (and her too) now that they are getting older. I think it's better having siblings than being only child, but my sister probably would rather be only child. Only children can be sociable and reliable, and people with siblings can be selfish toxic assholes.
People should just have how many kids themselves want (and can afford) and not think about stereotypes.

OT, I'm reaching 28, no degree, no long lasting relationship, and I no longer care about enjoying my youth. My childhood and teen years were fucking hell, and so were my early 20's, with every one telling "oh, how I wish I was young and full of energy like you". Good for you mate, but I had to parent my mother since I am kid so no springtime of youth for me.

And honestly, this mentality that life is only worth living before 25 (for both men and women) is so fucking depressing and stupid. I know that when people start to have kids they slow down, but jesus, most people I know seem to have peaked in their 20s and lost everything that made them unique. Hobbies and interests are all forgotten, they complain about having nothing to do or nowhere to go, and just stay home watching tv. Netflix, restaurants and wineries, the same status brands and itens and fashions. The adult world is so much more varied than the teen one, but adults are so much more boring and predictable with their lives. It's like curiosity and adventure died; lets get old and fat and ignorant.

Interesting and independent older people are so fucking rare and precious.

No. 602571

>>602536
Everyone in my family feels like a stranger I have to pretend to like.

No. 602573

>>602557
Kek same anon. I have 6.

No. 602606

I just joined this club today. I made myself some muffins and played civilization all day

No. 602629

>>602606
Well happy birthday anon! Enjoy your muffins and the rest of your day. Welcome to the club!

No. 602639

>>602285
Omg anon THANK U for getting me. As much as I’d like to have my own children, the world is just too fucked and it would feel wrong. And you’re right, adoption is always a possibility when I’m ready to start my own family.

Most of the time I don’t care that I don’t have friends. But my one friend of 10+ years recently ghosted me and she was the only person besides my partner that I talk to (she moved to a diff state at the beginning of COVID lockdown) and honestly things aren’t great with my partner so I feel super isolated lately and I get real sad. Also, I love Chloe Ting and I do kinda feel better knowing that she doesn’t have friends either lol.

No. 602699

>>602629
Welcome anon, grab some cake, a party hat and let's talk glass ceiling!

No. 602714

>>602536
I have two siblings and barely talk to them at 30, we never had anything in common and didn't do anything together growing up. We all had our own friends. I sometimes wish I actually was the only child because my mom was too occupied with my siblings to ever really give too many shits about me as I'm the youngest. They're both only one step up from strangers to me.

>Pretty much all only children are either entitled as fuck or super weird (think incels if male).

What do you base this on anyway? According to studies only children are actually more generous and willing to share because they don't have to grow up sharing every fucking thing they have and being unable to have their own space and own things and not having to compete for attention all the time.

No. 602715

>>602714
Samefagging because I can't delete my post but obviously meant
>*and having to compete for attention all the time
not the double negative kek

No. 602735

>>602443

I relate to this post so hard. I really cared about what guys thought of me in my twenties and now…. nope!

No. 602743

>>602443
based, get it bitch

No. 602750

Does anyone else find the internet significantly harder to use the older you get?

I still have the same interests as always but humor, fandoms/communities, most posts are made by or for zoomers now.

I saw this post about how blind people use computers, someone around our age made a shitty Homestuck reference and no one got it and instead ratio'd it with angry offended posts and clown stuff, including the OP. Homestuck isn't even that old. Things like "teencore" and myspace emo nostalgia currently popular with children trip me out.

In general I find the internet pretty unusable right now… coming from the edgelord 2000s internet, I'm tired of seeing people offended over everything, constantly posting politics or preaching and not having the ability to turn off their brain and have fun for even a bit

No. 602758

>>602750
I think it's hard in social media circles. I'm at a point where there's older people who post online and are so senile and so concrete in their views, it's useless to even try to interact with them, but they will not shut up and insert themselves in every conversation. And then there's the other side, the younger users who are basically the same, but they type differently with all the fake positivity and "informative" speak.

No. 602762

>>602536
The issue is that you were babied, not that you were an only child. I loved being an only child and I was really independent and just got to do my own thing all the time (basically a latchkey kid actually). I feel like being around adults a lot made me smarter and wittier too because my parents expected me to keep up as much as I could.

No. 602767

>>602714
I’m an only child and I’m weird, socially awkward and have a huge need of alone time. I’m in the camp of people thinking raising an only child is selfish. Yeah, I know that there’s other types of only children, but about 8 out of 10 of the only children I know (I counted) are social misfits who have an unusually hard time navigating life.
Also, as an only child and only grandchild, while I know that not everyone gets along with their siblings, I resent the fact that there is no one else who can relate to my particular experience with this set of parents and the only one who will be left to grieve when they die.

No. 602771

>>602767
You're selfish for expecting a woman to be a broodmare by having as many kids as other people think she should have, as opposed to the amount she herself wants.
I was an only child who grew up with other only children and had a great childhood.

Calling us weird and entitled is insulting, I could give you just as many examples of people with siblings acting like poorly socialized monkeys and having weird mental issues over their parents preferring their younger siblings over them.

No. 602776

>>602771
You really get triggered over a post on lolcow on the basis of being an only child?
Yeah, I think it’s fucking selfish - will that stop anyone from doing it? Nope. I don’t want to control anyone and I don’t, but I’m allowed to have an opinion.
I don’t want people to be brood mares, lmao, what? Having children is optional.

No. 602793

slowly backup, having had no childs
Damn those crazy hormones are strongs.
Don't make kids ffs, the world is overpulated as it is. Only kids, a duggar situation, it doesn't matter, just don't.
The money you'll save will do wonder drying those potential regret tears you're supposed tohave (or so they say)

No. 602794

Will the pill kill my urge to reproduce? I don’t want kids but I still get baby fever.

No. 602796

>>602750
>In general I find the internet pretty unusable right now… coming from the edgelord 2000s internet, I'm tired of seeing people offended over everything, constantly posting politics or preaching and not having the ability to turn off their brain and have fun for even a bit
As an oldfag I relate. I have developed and internalized the 2000's edgelord sense of humor and I feel like that one racist grandma everyone has when someone berates me for using the word "faggot" casually or something. I don't think the early 2000's internet was vitriolic and the offensive humor was just that, it was dark comedy and not a political opinion. I can't imagine a show like South Park existing today as it did during its former glory, but its old seasons perfectly encapsulate the kind of anti-authority and edgy content most millenials grew up with. Some of us went through a woke panic and are now trying to desperately bury our ~problematic~ footsteps of pre-2015 but most of us are just tired of the Internet becoming less about escapism and more about polishing a picture perfect image. The tables have truly turned from 2004 when people were making fun of the moral police trying to suck the fun out of everything.

No. 602802

>>602762
>The issue is that you were babied, not that you were an only child.
This. I know people who grew up as an only child and turned out fine, and people who grew up as an only child and became monstrous mini tyrants. And I also know people who were the golden child of their family of multiple siblings and turned out entitled little fuckers. It has nothing to do with how many siblings you have, it's only about the parents and their ability to raise an empathetic person. Kids learn social skills interacting with other children outside of their homes, siblings are not required.

Most of the fucked up only children that I've met blame their social autism and shortcomings simply on being brought up without siblings and think they've turned out better if they had them, but no, it just that you or your parents fucked up. Having siblings might just as well mean that your home is a constant war zone full of competition and aggression because the kids don't get along and fight over everything, including their parents' attention and monetary resources. Siblings are rarely in the same age group and have years between them so they live completely different lives. They might be different genders which only widens the gap during puberty. It's not always just fun family moments where you learn to share and take care of each other. You don't really have to learn how to nurture and develop relationships to be with your siblings because they'll be there no matter what, that's a skill you have to learn by socializing with the children who don't live under the same roof as you do.

No. 602806

I guess no one had the reference but… OP's pic is a stock photo for Christmas cake. In Japanese jargon, which bled in 4chan culture, women over 26 are seen like Christmas cakes after Christmas, as in still edible cakes but that missed their mark and approaching peremption. It's gross and objectifying. OP if you're a woman I really hope you don't actually identify with this shit.

No. 602810

>>602806
Irony?

No. 602812

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>>602806
Could have gone with Sheng nu. Equally charming.

No. 602816

>>602806
Is this a bait? The reference is how Japanese single women after 26 gather together to eat a dinner and cake with friends, not some stupid "4chan culture" meme. The tradition might just as well be a sign of solidarity between women who value their friendship over becoming the perfect housewife after "hitting the wall".

You have to be over 26 to post in this thread to begin with, fuck off with your "4chan internet hate machine jargon!!!" zoomer twitterfag.

No. 602826

>>602816
Lmao I’m so over zoomers. They’re so sensitive and exaggerative that it’s truly nauseating.

No. 602833

Here a documentary about woman 30+ in china being pressured to hell to marry.
You can activate the automatic subtitles in your language if yu don't talk french or german.
It was a hard watch for me.

No. 602836

>>602833
that chinese man refuse to date women who are their age or older is so fucked, no wonder that many well educated 'wasted' women end up with western guys. I believe the protag ended up marrying an european and now lives in germany.

No. 602837

>>602802
I've never really thought about it but my older brother still to this day demonises me for going thru puberty. I'm nearly 30 and he still brings up me hitting puberty and it apparently being a nightmare. Which is odd because I can't even recall when puberty officially happened for me I think it happened in school? I was on sport teams and still went swimming with a tampon I really don't understand when I was such a nightmare lol. Although I do remember my brother turning into an aggressive asshole and being subjected to random beatings before school all the time because my mum was pissing my brother off cause he would never wake up in time to fucking leave for the bus. I use to get up at fucking half 6 so I could do my hair everyday I was fucking perfect!! Kek

No. 602841

>>602833
Doesn’t China also have some ridiculous ratio like 70 million more men than women? It’s ridiculous

No. 602843

>>602833
China is massively fucked when it comes to 'women hitting the wall.' Same in Korea. I have friends who work there and the pressure when you're 25 is insane to hurry up and find that man to have kids with and 'retire' with as a mom. It just emphasises the issues with gender roles and how we need to step away from them. It's awful. She is only 30 but they're acting like she's 60 and alone. wtf

No. 602845

>>602836
Haumei clearly made the best choice for herself leaving China.
She would never have fit in with her still rural family. She worked her ass off to become a lawyer ffs and they still treated her like dirt.

No. 602850

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>>601371
>Right now we are in that weird limbo where society thinks we are too old to have any enjoyment in life but also too young to just die and move out the way
>at 26 years old
I'm spitting in your general direction, OP.

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I love this thread, except the occasional infighting. It‘s so wholesome and motivating. Thank you, anons.

No. 602855

>>602794
Don't think it will, but I got something for you.
https://www.reddit.com/r/breakingmom
Make sure to read the man rant and kid rant tags. The amount of women in there with nice, attentive pre-kid men who turned into leeches is eye-opening.

No. 602862

>>602806
Kek even if the OP was Christmas cake it would still be redundant to explain or shield the old anons from the scary problematic semantics of an old 4chan meme, oldfags were forged in the faggotry of /b/

No. 602865

>>602855
Wtf, only read or two but damn, those were fucking BRUTAL.

No. 602866

>>602855
Thanks! I‘m gonna check it out!

>>602865
Which ones did you read? I need that effect too.

No. 602868

>>602794
>>602855
I‘m the OA so kinda replying to my own post, this subreddit helped me a lot as well: https://www.reddit.com/r/regretfulparents?count=25&page=2&after=t3_eg5u9i

No. 602870

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Finally! A thread for "grandmas" to chill in.

I'm in my 30s and it's been a challenging life adventure so far. I still feel young at heart and I still love some weeby animu and fandom shite but I find it harder to connect with younger fans in the same fandom. Maybe because I've gotten way more chill with my fandom obsessions and have other things to focus on in life like work and surviving daily life.

The only thing I'm worried about right now is the societal pressure of getting married and popping out 2.5 kids asap. I'm already seen as anomaly since I live in a super conservative Muslim country. Women that are not married with kids at 26+ are viewed as "broken" or have "deep issues" and are best to be avoided and pitied. Who wants to marry turbo misogynistic men that views older women as "problematic" anyways. Gross!

To be honest, I have never had a crush on or show any interest in men ever in my life and marriage was never in the list of my goal in life. I think I would be perfectly happy living a single and uncomplicated life until I die, but society doesn't want to accept the fact that happy single women do exist which is so unfair. Men that are unmarried or have never married are seen as acceptable and even cool or eccentric in some society/culture but not women.

Recently a friend my age announced that she'll be marrying this guy that she met at her workplace in December. She has only known the guy for maybe less than a year? And she mentioned that her dad doesn't really like the guy but she still wants to marry him. I was quite shocked when she told me that she was getting married this soon, since it was only last year that she mentioned to me that she doesn't mind being single because she enjoyed the freedom of traveling alone. I guess social pressure finally got to her since all her siblings are already married with kids and most of our friends are as well.

I'm also worried that I'll be so desperate to not be seen as an "anomaly" in society and just marry the first random guy that shows any interest in me even though I don't feel like being tied down just yet. Plus, my parents are constantly putting the pressure on me by pestering me as to why I'm still single and are trying to hook me up with their friends' single male child.

How do you fend off societal pressures to get married anons? Please share any useful tips so that I won't succumb to it in desperation.

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No. 602884

I don’t think I’ve ever been with a man who treated me like a human and not an object. I am technically married but now separated but he never really treated me like a “human”. This is the main reason I am kind of meh about marriage because I want to to be treated like a friend and not some object to entertain them when they’re bored…..
I kind of wish I could just got back to 19 with the brain I have now and never have sex or date. After years of being told I’m boring or worthless it’s really taking at hit at 28.

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>>602536
Hi, I'm the original poster of >>602529 I have to say that I agree with the other posters that the feelings of social isolation and awkwardness, I feel, is more largely dictated by nurture than nature. I have an older brother, but we're not close as adults and although we got on fine as kids, I was still an awkward, over-babied younger child. I actually had more difficulty relating to girls who weren't tomboys because my parents treated us the same and they never pushed me to be more outgoing. I think I see a lot of what >>602544 was saying, especially when you have 2 of the same gender, and I do have a friend who doesn't want kids specifically because she was the oldest and essentially was a co-parent to the youngest at a young age. I think it's a lot of feeling like if you had "someone else on your side" you'd be better off, but the kind of relationship you have with your sibling depends largely on the kind of personality they have AND how your parents handle your sibling relationship. I love my husband and my brother in law, but their mother is a Narc who absolutely ruined what would've been an otherwise close bond by teaching the younger he was perfect wittle angle and the older needed to just shut up and be better.

>>602865
>>602868
>>602794
r/fencesitting is a good one too. Honestly, a lot changed for me once my husband and I bought a home and had a decent savings. I really wasn't interested in having kids until I had the same kind of stability I was born into. You do you. There's extreme people on both sides of this coin. I personally find it hard to empathize with people who knew their husband is childish and decided not to have 1 but 2 and act appalled that the burden magically defaults to them. A LOT of the "omg kids are so expensive" posts are people who were just clearly unprepared and the dads on their are just sad their Mom-I mean-Wife have a new priority. I love me some drama on the internet, but at the end of the day, most of the people venting/ranting about large decisions don't seem like the kind of person I'd ever take advice from in real life.

Just remember, all of your girlfriends who make bad relationship decisions are also the ones who make bad parenting decisions, it's just way way way harder to escape a screaming toddler than it is your gamer boyfriend.

No. 602931

>>602900
this couple is so cute

No. 602936

>>602900
I might've read your response wrong, but I kinda disagree. The whole "you picked the wrong partner" shtick is hard to defend when most men are honestly shit in the first place. And even if you "pick a good one"… People can and will change. Get depressed, fall out of love, what have you. You think you got your Nigel but when you're both running on 3 hours of sleep a night and you can't even shit without being in pain, that can all change. I've been lurking on various child/childfree related subreddits and boards for over a year and you see it time and time again - that the moid makes a literal 180. Sleep-deprivation, no sex and baby shit on your clothes will take a toll on you.

I'm probably way too pessimistic about this, but from all the shit I've seen my own parents and friends with children go through… I'm exhausted. It's very disillusioning.

No. 602944

>>602443
Love you, anon. I'm so glad you're living the way you want unapologetically. Peace!

No. 602984

>>602936
Yeah, that was my experience too.
I think what made me never want to deal with men was having so many married men and men with girlfriends hit on me at work. They come from all backgrounds poor, middle class, rich even, but they all want a change. They shittalk about their wives or girlfriends or they make terrible excuses like their sex life is not as good as before or she nags a lot for every single thing. So no matter how much time you devote, no matter how much you sacrifice, he's most likely going to get bored at one point. Of course not all men, but what are the chances to find that one in a million loyal guy?
I used to think I was maybe wrong in my assumptions when I was in my early and mid 20s but I'm going to be 30 next month and a lot of my friends are getting divorced and mostly because the guy changed for the worse.
Maybe love is a scam but I get the feeling that most men don't feel love, only lust. Once they stop feeling horny, they'll stop caring about you.

No. 603034

>>602870

At this point I think it's projecting. I browse both here and male spaces, and it's men that go nuts the most over not having a gf or sex by some age, and troon or homo out if they don't. They wouldn't be making /r9k/, wizardchan, r/incels/, and so on communities otherwise. I've seen an MSpaint drawing or two outright setting weird benchmarks for themselves like having to get laid by 17 or they're irredeemable loser.

All of the societal pressure about starting a family is entirely revolved around women's sole ability to give birth. If we just had artificial wombs, I think we can just go our own way without being bothered.

I'm not as far along as you are, but good luck. Maybe you can freeze skin cells as a consolation prize, but never follow through with actual children. (lol?)

https://www.iflg.net/ability-to-create-eggs-from-skin-cells-offers-future-new-options-for-infertility-treatment/
https://archive.is/nnOHz

No. 603052

>>603034
>I've seen an MSpaint drawing or two outright setting weird benchmarks for themselves like having to get laid by 17 or they're irredeemable loser.
I also love how they always sperg out about how men are put down for being a virgin at 20+ but then turn around and say that women that are virgins at 25+ are weird disgusting spinsters and probably just fat and ugly or somehow mentally ill. They hold insane standards for women expecting the suitable one to be a 16-23-year old virgin who are still horny and experienced enough to be comforable in pleasuring their men despite the man himself being a 30yo ugly loser with no aspirations, career or education.

No. 603062

>>603052
>but then turn around and say that women that are virgins at 25+ are weird disgusting spinsters and probably just fat and ugly or somehow mentally ill.
lol no. It goes like:
>christmas cake! no good after 25!
or
>how can a girl be a virgin at 25+, she just has to spread her legs at a bar and someone will fuck her. (Nevermind anything like real companionship and emotional connection.)

No. 603070

I’m 28 and not a day goes by that I don’t regret losing my virginity. I’m so envious of women who are 25+ and still virgins. The trauma of dealing with me has fucked me in the head badly lol

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No. 603132

im fucking tired why the fuck am i too smart to get a boyfriend why cant i just drop my brain and fall in love with someone god let me at least have 1 bf in my life before the world ends

the christmas cake is getting into my head i dont even want to think like this

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>>602140
Men feel like vasectomies are like castration, shooting blanks is literally a nightmare among men. It's like a huge emotional issue, I wouldn't go ahead thinking that he plans to change his mind later, it's just that he will feel defective afterwards.

No. 603172

>>602936
>>602984

I think the "men are shit" argument isn't fair, because honestly, while most of my girlfriends are good friends to me, the way they talk and treat to their boyfriends isn't stellar and not nearly as one-sided on the blame game as they like to portray. Women get married and then want to get divorced immediately (2 acquaintances of mine did this, cheated on their husband and got divorced within 3 days). They have kids when they aren't happy, and then drag that kid to a new dad that the mom has known or dated for less than a year, in an attempt to band-aid the single mom stigma. Women are capable and display just as much shitty behavior as guys, but women are better at framing everything wrong in the relationship on the man when you ask about it. When they talk about their experience, they almost never pretend like the warning signs weren't there, but women expect men to work harder in the relationship to keep affections. If the things you do to show affection are what you expect back, and you don't receive that, it's time to go. Some of the way my girlfriends talk to guys during fights and break-ups is flat-out terrible: condescending, childish and below the belt. Many of my nerd friends are obsessed with being miserable (the endless "bad day") and expect their man to be their therapist on demand, 24/7. I can't tell you how many fights they pick with their S.O.s because their guy is tired of hearing about their work/family drama for the 4th day in a row. How can you expect someone to be happy to see you and be with you if all your bringing to it is negativity? Now that we're over 30, my single friends are just unbearable with dating. They demand to know the guy's life plan on date #2 and immediately put all their baggage on the table. If you want a romance, you have to be romantic too. Especially the hard-working friends I have, they act entitled to a free-pass at having to be romantic because they've come out of long-term relationships with guys who were just as shitty in year 1 as in year 6.

If that seems to harsh, then maybe we can at least agree that girls are horrible at breaking up with men. Shitty guys don't dump you because why would they put an effort into anything when it's easier to do nothing? Shitty girls don't break up with their guy because they view being single and having "Wasted time" as worse than staying with someone they don't love. Even if they don't want kids/don't have a bio-need to act. It's a bit middle school.

All of my married friends were in long-term, live together relationships. Their husbands are the same dudes they were when I knew them when I was 20, but more mature. They still fight, have bad weeks, but there is never any huge surprise in behavior. Some of what they fight about now, are related to what they used to fight about 2 years ago, it's just they don't say or act out in shitty ways to guilt the other into apologizing. I know many incredible women and their partners are a reflection of who they are. I rarely see a case where the woman is a saint and the guy is a total jack-off. I'm not denying a child is a huge game-changer in a relationship, but so many women marry man-children and then have a mental breakdown when the marriage they ultimatum their guy into isn't lending so hot to their new bundle of screaming, colick-y shit.

Please try to not fall into the same mentality of Incels. If you want to see all men as shit, then they always will be and you'll close the door on the potential to a good relationship forever. The extremes of life are all just a cope.

No. 603203

>>603172
Yeah women can be shit but there are still plenty of average/cute girls to go around. Finding a guy who isn’t fucked up in some way and or ugly is harder.

No. 603206

>>603203
Same anon and guys don’t usually break up with girls. Yeah guys will break up with girls but they will still lead them on. They just keep them on the sideline then pop up 2 months later when the girl they wanted fell through and they need sex/attention.

No. 603222

>>603206
This. Girls might dump their boyfriends but at least they have the courtesy to do so, all the men I've known in my life do the most socially retarded things to end or start a relationship.
>Spin around multiple women while telling everyone they're their one and only and sniffing for the first girl to put out, ghost the rest immediately
>When the relationship starts going bad, make your escape by flirting with other girls (usually the ones you ghosted before) and when one of them is naive enough for your shit, dump the girlfriend and start dating the other girl immediately after months of passive aggressive behavior and emotional/physical cheating


>>603172
> I rarely see a case where the woman is a saint and the guy is a total jack-off. I'm not denying a child is a huge game-changer in a relationship, but so many women marry man-children and then have a mental breakdown when the marriage they ultimatum their guy into isn't lending so hot to their new bundle of screaming, colick-y shit.
Are you saying that it's a rare occurrence to witness a man being the dick in the relationship and that they're to blame when their worthless piece of shit manchild isn't willing to share the responsibility for his own child? Because that's what this take sounds like. Gonna be honest this whole post just feels like a rant born from a bitter "well at least I wouldn't nag this poor guy all the time!!!" mindset.

I don't even understand why anons come to this thread with their "w-women can be insufferable too" whining, a lot of us here are over 30 and know that already. I don't fucking care. Plenty of women are "bitchy" and "naggy" because they're unhappy in a relationship they're trying to fix and the man isn't just interested because when the spark goes out he's not going to be there to try to do something about it, he's texting the girl he left on read 2 years ago. And of fucking course your partner should be your emotional support too, you should be able to complain about family and work drama to them. You can do it with friends, of course you should feel safe enough to open up to your partner. It's not like you're suicide baiting or doing emotional manipulation for fucks sake, ranting about something that bothers you is a pretty basic relationship privilege whether you're a man or a woman. It can be annoying to listen to for sure but you should be able to vent so your partner knows you're not doing well and, I don't know, could maybe help you out and support you.

>Please try to not fall into the same mentality of Incels. If you want to see all men as shit, then they always will be and you'll close the door on the potential to a good relationship forever. The extremes of life are all just a cope.

These women are talking about how men mistreat them and don't see them as equals. Incels complain about not being entitled to sex. It's fucking shocking how many times I hear men constantly talking shit about their wives and letting the relationship go to hell because they simply don't want to do anything to improve things.

No. 603244

Anyone else dealing with a parent whose health is declining early? Feel too young still to have to worry about my parents retirement and health

No. 603250

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I feel pretty good about my career but that’s about it. Honestly the worst thing about being 30 is how fucking lonely I am. Not having a boyfriend is fine but I seem to have ended up surrounded by well adjusted happy couples, which just highlights my own solitude.

I can’t seem to make any new friends either; most women my age have families or are couples up, I don’t attend school or college anymore and I’ve just moved so I can’t even rely on old friends and siblings.

Sorry for all the gloom, I’m feeling super isolated right now. Here’s a photo of my ultimate age-inspiration.

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>>603244
I feel you, I’m adopted and my mom is 80, with heart and bone issues. Once she goes my family will consist of exactly one brother and one sister.

No. 603255

>>603250
I hate the lonliness too. I took myself off social media because it was lonely seeing everyone living life having fun when I was being depressed lol. Now that I've got over that I've been thinking of making an Instagram to document my solitude activities to see if anyone takes an interest to do them with me. Even new people. Wondering if tagging locations and places will find mutual or something. I had a very toxic mindset growing up so I didn't retain friendships from those times so I'm started from square one. It sucks that it's easier to get a boyfriend ime than a platonic friend at this age.

No. 603258

being in your mid twenties/late twenties is such a mindfuck. I still look young and FEEL young, but society is telling me I'm supposed to have already graduated college, have an established career, get married, get pregnant, buy a home… I'm nowhere close to any of those things and I feel fine about it. I live in a small apartment (which I enjoy, why would I live in a huge home when I'm only one person?), I'm not concerned with making a lot of money, failed college a couple times so I'm just barely working on my first degree, not even considering children right now. I'm trying to work on shedding the shame of not reaching certain socially accepted + expected age milestones. I am content with my life and I don't need to do all this unnecessary shit just to be performative for other people. why can't I be alone in my small apartment, happy with my cat in peace? and yet I can't stop comparing myself to others my age and feeling like shit

No. 603260

>>603255
I think that’s a great idea actually. Even just as something to look back on in the future. I might even steal it…maybe we’ll run into each other via location tag!

No. 603311

>>602038
I have a high sex drive and masturbate multiple times a day and going on bc (loestrin) killed it all. When I had sex with my gf, it took me forever to orgasm and it was much less intense. I'm so glad to be off it and back to my horny self, lol

No. 603328

just turned 26 and my later 20's have been nothing but awesome. I have so much more freedom than I could have ever imagined. i feel like i've learned a lot about myself and have gradually grown to love myself for who i am, made wonderful friendships and learned to speak up for myself. my teens and early 20's i was suffering from severe low self esteem, alcoholism, self harm and an abusive father/family dynamic and was close to killing myself more than once and i'm so glad that i never went through with it.

of course I still have my ups and downs but I feel like I can overcome things a lot easier than I could have ever imagined 6 years ago. i'm rooting for fellow farmers stuck in a purgatory of feeling too old or that they're passing their prime, you're a bunch of beautiful sluts

No. 603332

Whelp. I'm about to turn 30 and I still feel like my life hasn't even begun yet. So all that good advice about feeling more confident and knowing where you're going just makes me feel like even more of a loser.
I mean I have a job and an apartment, it could be worse but it's all very dead-end.

No. 603360

>>603258
I found a video on TikTok of two older women gossiping with each other and it's such such a breath of fresh air. They were so animated, it was a good reminder "growing up" is just a mask we put on to seem proper and mature.
I'll gladly be playing video games and collecting stuffed animals until it genuinely bores me.

No. 603368

>>603332
Exact same with me. I don’t even have a job anymore. But…things are better than they were…right?

No. 603435

>>602843
>>602841
These guys are so desperate for pussy they fuck dolls and masturbate to cartoons but a woman over 30 is unimaginable? I couldn't live with myself if I was so broken.
>>603332
>>603368
Be positive, anons! Accepting that life isn't a competition and that I'm not going to get a report card at the end of all of this helped me a lot, then I learned to accept more of the things I disliked about myself, then I started taking more risks, and now my life is fuller than it was! I think the fear of failure holds back a lot of people, but especially perfectionist women.

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Any of you gals know of verified discord for 30+ woman to talk hobbies,book club, gossiping, feminism and women issues?
There has to be one around, right?

No. 603544

>>603525
Different anon here. What would be a good place that isn't Discord?

No. 603553

>>603360

Please post this in the elder farmers thread I would love to see it.

No. 603649

>>603525
I’d love to make one if there is any interest at all.

No. 603665

>>601371
I have some pretty raw feelings about growing older as someone who was raised by older parents and always had older friends. I don't feel my age (28), and my boyfriend who is one year younger than me is always talking about what 'normal' people do at our age…like saying that I dress too 'young' or that my interests are too immature. But I just don't feel like I should have to change because of my age! I remind him that it's not like we have any pressure on us to 'grow up' the way he thinks growing up should look. We don't have kids, I'm not an aunt because my sister who is older than me doesn't have kids either, and at least I have a career that I'm very professional at. Just in my time off I draw and watch TV, which I don't think is an immature pastime. Between him and my coworkers asking when me and him are gonna tie the knot or have a baby, I hate it. I was also in a discord where the mods and members were pseudo trad and constantly riding my ass about 'settling down' and having a kid, but I have never wanted kids. I'll be honest, I don't think my boyfriend really wants any of that either, but he is very performative so I think the 'wanting kids' thing is just a performance for him. He's even admitted he's very reptilian in regards to children.
Does anyone else have issues like this with their partner? I can't be alone in this.
He's also about to leave for several years and we're gonna have to be LDR, so yet again why would I have kids?
With age I have had to open my mind a lot, and it has shaken my self identity. I wish I had become more concrete like some of you ladies, but that just wasn't how my life turned out. I had to make a lot of choices that my late teens/early twenties self would've balked at. Going into a conservative field, dying my hair normal colors, getting more excited for my Betabrand office pants to come in than concerts, throwing out my battle vest…I miss it sometimes, the boho punk lifestyle, but then I remember going through the summer with no AC and biking everywhere and I think, no, I am happier now that I have some stability, even if I had to trade in my manic panic for madison reed.

No. 603676

I keep seeing that 'women hit the wall at 30' shit posted online lately, I'm 31 and only in the last year or so have I started consistently passing as being over 20. For years I've felt like a kid playing the role of an adult. But now I'm somehow in this 'old and infertile' category that a bunch of bitter men like to imagine online.. that shit's so weird to me.

No. 603724

>>603665
Why are you dating a man like that?

An issue with women is we let the men we are with strip us of our hobbies and interests. Even before I was 28 my bfs would tell me my hobbies are dumb, vapid etc

Now I have no hobbies lol I say you better drop him before you end up like me.

No. 603731

>>603724
Samefag and when women screech to their bfs/husband about their man child hobbies or loser hobbies do they ever change? No because they don’t give a shit what we think. They just see it as nagging but so many women give up shit they like because of the men they’re with shaming them for it.

No. 603732

Either I don't look 28, or people are just too intimidated by me but I rarely get people implying I'm old or asking if I'm married or when I'll have kids. People are generally good to me. Although maybe it's one of those cases where I really am old looking and fat but people don't say anything because they respect me to not hurt my feelings lmao. Maybe I'm so oblivious that I don't realize when people are picking at my age that I don't notice. Who knows.

The only person that made me feel like shit about my age awhile ago was my stepdad cause I asked him to write me a letter of personal recommendation and the language he used sometimes like "when anon was a younger college aged woman," felt a bit backhanded. But who cares? My stepdad is balding, fat, a scumbag who I can't respect, and had the audacity to cheat with a girl my age which ultimately ended his marriage to my mom. Soooo I consider the source, and I don't find the majorify of older men to have good faith opinions about female looks.

I've taken on a scorched earth policy when it comes to people; if they make me feel like shit and don't serve me, I bury them.

No. 603733

>>603665
Not trying to be mean here, just realistic. He's 27, not married, no kids and he's about to leave for several years of long distance..there's a pretty high chance that one of you will meet someone else in that several year long period.

No. 603770

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Anyone else feels no desire to progress? I don't want to change or leave my job. I don't want a promotion. I'm just happy with doing simple tasks in familiar environment with the same people. I love working from 9 to 5 at the exact same desk. Most of my close friends are older, unmarried girls (like 50+yo, I'm 27). I have a fiance but I don't really like him much. He is a sweet guy, but I don't want to marry him or live with him. The idea of having kids seems outlandish to me. I can play otome games for hours on end but actually meeting up with my bf once a week seems like a chore to me. Idk. I feel like an alien for being the way I am. Nothing brings me more joy than spending the day alone, going on fun trips by myself, etc.

No. 603773

>>603770
I wish I had your ability to enjoy alone time so much. Not being sarcastic, it seems like as women get to be around this age they prefer solitude. But I’ve always been pretty social. Ah hell.

No. 603774

>>603770
Are you going to break up with him? Otherwise, I feel similar. I just want to work a easy 9-5 job to have money to do what I want.

No. 603779

>>603773
Nta but being naturally social is a great gift which you benefit loads from in life, treasure it.

No. 603787

>>603770
I love my alone time, I have an old neighbor who will constantly ask me whether I get lonely (I live alone and work from home) and it annoys the fuck out of me that I've told this man no a hundred different times lol. I've always been like this to an extent but with age it's really kicking in more. Love the peace and quiet.

You owe it to your partner to tell him how you feel. It's his time that is being wasted here in an engagement that won't lead anywhere. Rip off that band aid and let him move on and make future plans that are based in reality, eating up his time like that isn't right. Especially if he has it in his head that there's a marriage in your future.

No. 603792

>>603770
I feel you on everything here except:
>I can play otome games for hours on end but actually meeting up with my bf once a week seems like a chore to me.
You might consider cutting him loose. Unless of course he is fine that you see no future together, and he never wants to co-habitate either.

>>603779
Yes. The only time I ever felt good being social was when I was drinking. I've been sober 4 years and it's pretty much the only thing I miss about drinking. It made is so easy to freely chat and not get overly neurotic about it.

No. 603814

27 y.o here and still have the same hobbies as my early 20s. Despite having a functional adult life (like being married, working, taking care of the house, etc.) I still enjoy reading manga, watching anime and playing games. Of course, now I have a more refined taste, but it seems that all the people I knew at the time and who shared the same hobbies just moved on and now they just live to work. Have you been through this? Do you find it strange or childish to still have the same interests?


besides, I couldn't enjoy my early 20s because I didn't have a lot of money so now I still want to be able to dress in a cute way. But it seems that at this age people expect you to wear only discreet mommy clothes.

No. 603847

>>603770
I completely relate to this except I quit my job (it was draining me mentally) I really have no desire to climb up the corporate ladder but i just want salary increases

I hope you dump your fiance if he's just being a chore to you though alone time is great but sometimes you just need someone to be with

No. 603904

>>603724
Honestly, I began dating him because we had and do still have a lot in common. He's changed a lot while with me but you're right, I've never criticized his hobbies and I don't understand why he criticizes mine. He has no friends and his family are more like me than him, so I don't really understand why he has this idea that I'm supposed to be this boring plain older woman. He wasn't like this when we were 24/23.

>>603733
You're not wrong, and I appreciate your realism.

No. 603906

>>603814
Hell no. You like what you like. For example, I just picked up cosplay again at the age of 30. I started doing it when I was 13 and stopped around 23 because I thought I was too old. Turns out I really miss making costumes and meeting other people who do. I don't care if it's childish because I do other things like run a household, work a job and other things expected of an adult. We've got to have some joy in our lives, haven't we? Keep having fun, anon.

No. 603915

>>603906
Same anon here. Thank you for share that. Sometimes I feel insecure because I have no friends to talk about.

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No. 604075

>>603649
I would be very much interested in joining a discord like that!

No. 604079

Great thread. I think I'm finally over being condemned to permanent woman child femcel status, but you never know. It's a chlidish dream but sometimes I still want to be the most popular nobody on the internet, even though I know that means probably becoming a lolcow at this point.

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>>603732
>I rarely get people implying I'm old
I mean… unless it's your direct family nobody will tell you this because it's rude and they never really know, maybe you're one of those people who have looked 40 since they were 20, maybe you look super young. And with your family it's a gamble, my parents don't tell me this either.

What I've noticed is that in my early 20s people were treating me like the ugly weeb that I was and I just attributed it to that, but now that I'm no longer ugly or a weeb at 27 people just seem kinda bitchy in general and I don't know if it's because I'm officially "old". My neighbors don't say hi to me and just pass me by or look at me, store clerks (mostly female but some male) are never friendly and always sound bored when talking to me. Even my bf noticed it because with him it's the opposite, people love him and everyone smiles and is friendly with him, my own neighbors greet him when they see him. I don't even know if it's age related because I've seen the same clerks that act annoyed around me act super bubbly and nice to customers who were middle-aged women before me in line.

I don't know what's going on.

No. 604128

I'm turning 30 in less than a year and I couldn't be more thrilled. I've literally wanted to be done with my 20's from the minute I turned 20. I've never heard anyone over the age of 29 claim that they wanted to re-live their 20's again, or that they missed being younger. It's mostly been the opposite.

I think as long as you've actually spent your 20's working on establishing yourself, developing self-awareness and identifying any toxic behavioral patterns that are holding you back, your 30's tend to be a lot easier.

No. 604132

>>603732
>I rarely get people implying I'm old or asking if I'm married or when I'll have kids.

I don't think this has ever even once happened to me. I don't know if it's because I look younger than I am, or if it just has something to do with where I live, but I'm always baffled when women my age claim that people won't stop badgering them about marriage and kids. Where are these people and why do they even care? Is this a cultural thing? It just blows my mind.

No. 604140

>>604132
It's both a cultural and family thing, some people have annoying/selfish family members who demand grandkids they can play with once in a while with no thought of what their child actually wants. Others live in places where it's normalized for old people to be nosy busybodies like small towns.

No. 604181

>>602285
>maybe this is an unpopular opinion, but I think it's responsible and admirable when people acknowledge that it might not be the best idea to bring a child into this world. so many people have kids when they have financial problems, relationship issues, not enough time or patience to devote to kids, etc.

Well people who are stupid enough not to care or consider those things do it all the time. One of my friends is like that, her 10 year old daughters teeth are rotten. She can't be bothered telling them to brush their teeth.

She'll probably end up being dead at 20 being the g/f of some drugdealer.

No. 604228

>>604128
Living in your 20's is actual hell and I hate how youth is being glorified and people end up lamenting over their "lost time" when in reality they were probably more miserable at 21 than 31.
>Being broke all the time, no disposable income
>Still dependent on your parents to a degree
>Struggling through university and working shit jobs to pay for it
>Catty, overblown drama between friends because everyone is still in the teenager mindset
>People don't take you seriously, granted it's because you're still a dumb fucking teenager with a black and white world view
>Bonus: creepy older man perving on you all the time
>Working exploitative junior positions to desperately kickstart your career
>Still extremely self-conscious and paying too much mind to what your peers, especially men, think
>In case you got married, you'll probably end up divorcing when both of you hit 30 because you grew apart. The same goes for that long term relationship you started in your late teens/early 20's, it's most likely going to end
>A small shitty apartment/dorm room because that's all you can afford
Every time I slip into that "I wish I could be 20 again" I instantly remember all the shit I had to put up with back then and I'm happy to be in my 30's again. I'm so much more stable and mature now and I wouldn't change it for anything.

No. 604230

>>604228
this post gave me hope lmao

No. 604231

>>603665
>my boyfriend who is one year younger than me is always talking about what 'normal' people do at our age…like saying that I dress too 'young' or that my interests are too immature.
>I was also in a discord where the mods and members were pseudo trad and constantly riding my ass about 'settling down' and having a kid
>I'll be honest, I don't think my boyfriend really wants any of that either, but he is very performative so I think the 'wanting kids' thing is just a performance for him. He's even admitted he's very reptilian in regards to children.

Yikes. Dump the fucker and definitely don't have kids with him. Don't waste your time on several years of LDR with someone like this, jesus christ.

>>603724
>>603731
This. So many men are legitimately embarrassed for their girlfriends' "dumb hobbies" because their friends are teasing them for it. I just saw that viral tweet making rounds of this guy complaining about his girlfriend's interest in pokemon and how his friends make fun of him for it all the time despite them enjoying Minecraft themselves and he was asking for advice on how to make his girlfriend stop. Thankfully everyone told him off and the story had a happy ending because the guy realized it was a problem with his friends, not his girlfriend, and he started getting into pokemon himself to connect better with her. But it really opened my eyes to this issue that I sort of knew was there but couldn't quite put my finger on it. It's happened with so many of my girlfriends, their boyfriends suck the life out of them and shame them for their hobbies making them give up everything that makes them happy. I don't know why that is. I know some women do it to men too like forcing them to sell their game collection or board game stuff which is just as equally heart breaking but generally women seem to be much more tolerating and respectful of the man's hobbies than men are of their girlfriends'.

No. 604286

>>603665
>He's also about to leave for several years and we're gonna have to be LDR
The fact that you two sound totally incompatible aside, this is enough of a reason to break up.

No. 604345

>>604118
Maybe you just have a resting bitch face or have a "bad bitch" aura anon? Don't worry anon, I'm also in the same boat. I've always had a resting bitch face since I was a kid. Only knew I had a serious case of "RBF" when a few of my close friends confessed that they were too scared to talk to me when they first met me because I look angry/serious/bitchy/snobbish all the time. Ngl, having rbf makes it hard to make friends because people automatically think I'm snobbish or bitchy person, but in reality I'm a pretty laid back person who rarely gets angry.

I've been ignored by strangers and store clerks all my life and to be honest I kinda like it since I'm a super introverted person and hate being social. Also, I seldom get pestered/catcalled by random horny/gross guys compared to my other more "bubbly" "smiley" friends which makes having rbf or "bad bitch" aura not so bad after all.

No. 604351

>>604345

> I've always had a resting bitch face since I was a kid. Only knew I had a serious case of "RBF" when a few of my close friends confessed that they were too scared to talk to me when they first met me because I look angry/serious/bitchy/snobbish all the time. Ngl, having rbf makes it hard to make friends because people automatically think I'm snobbish or bitchy person, but in reality I'm a pretty laid back person who rarely gets angry.


Damn anon, exactly the same here except friends have also reported being “scared” of me when we first met because I’m 6ft tall (and have been since I was like 12) and I was pretty serious with sports growing up so used to weight train. Boys at school nicknamed me “The Tank” lmaooooo.

I also agree on RBF being useful now I’m older because I’m also pretty introverted and it suits me fine if folks are put off from interacting with me.

No. 604363

>>604231
>> So many men are legitimately embarrassed for their girlfriends' "dumb hobbies" because their friends are teasing them for it. I just saw that viral tweet making rounds of this guy complaining about his girlfriend's interest in pokemon and how his friends make fun of him for it all the time despite them enjoying Minecraft themselves and he was asking for advice on how to make his girlfriend stop

This is a weird vibe I've been getting more recently in regards to the "x wife guy" memes. Like "mareep wife guy" or, apparently, "furby wife guy"? In both cases, even though they're referring to the husband, they're mocking the wife's "weird hobby" and reducing her and her relationship to that.

I don't have a partner who cares about this, but I've definitely started to sense the "women over 25 are creepy" feeling from fandom and cosplay circles. It's all the same, that women are expected to age out of things.

No. 604371

I just turned 30 this year, and tbh just having bad vibes about it in general because of COVID. Couldn't do anything, can't travel. Feel like I'll be wasting my "good years" since things likely won't be back to normal

No. 604385

>>604351

"The Tank"? That's actually a cool nickname anon. Would definitely love to be friends with someone with the nickname "The Tank". Yea, tall girls have it way harder at school.

Right? RBF is definitely a useful thing to have if you're an introverted person.

>>604363

Agreed anon! I also noticed that people are trying their hardest to chase out women over 25 from being involved in fandoms/cosplays/nerdy hobbies; especially in social media. I hate how society forces women over 25 to automatically turn into a boring, normie, nagging moms/wives/gfs persona. Even worse, they expect older women to only play the supportive wife/mum/gf background, no fun allowed role. The world hates older women so much.

No. 604396

>>604345
>>604351
I'm exactly the same. I'm also very tall and I was called creepy and nicknamed death because I'm thin and always dress in black, while being pale and having long black hair.
After people would talk to me for a few minutes I was surprised how they always said something among the lines of you're actually a cool/nice person. I can't imagine what sort of image they had of me prior to that. But I'm introverted so just like you, I'm okay with being unapproachable.

No. 604400

>>604371
I feel you sis. When I started working there was the 2009 crisis. It didn't feel as bad as this tbh but it took a few years for me to feel like I could start making plans again. Now I'm again fearing for the future as I wanted to start my own business and already set plans to enact it. I feel like my timing about everything is off key. I'm aware that there's plenty of other people in the same boat as me who wanted to make 2020 their year but it's precisely seeing others struggling as well that makes the matters even more depressing.

No. 604427

I hear you >>604371 and >>604400

I’m early 30s, dropped into the job market after college right in the middle of the 2008-2011 financial crash/recession and my early twenties were spent dealing with the crushing realisation that graduating top of your class at one of the best colleges in the world means absolutely fuck all to employers. Now a decade later I’ve just managed to get my career on track and after taking a year out of dating and sex of any kind I was gonna drop back into it in 2020 but then covid happened. My condolences, I really understand that kind of “life on pause” feeling now.

No. 604451

I watched this video earlier today, what do you farmers think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6QQm6VtOAA

No. 604521

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Habitual discorders, please, I pray you to make it happen.
Bless us with a lovely nook for us 30+ lurkers to congregate on the daily.

No. 604777

>>604363
>>604385
The age discrimination especially in cosplay is nuts these days. The whole hobby is filled with 18-23 year old girls who consistently shit on women over 25 calling them washed up and weirdos for cosplaying at "such an old age" and their simps keep enabling this mindset. They're the ones who will probably stop only because they became so self aware and terrified of being the target of the same treatment they gave out to the older women, not because they "grew out of it". That's what a lot of women sadly end up doing, they give up things that are fun and make up their personality because they're so afraid of being judged. Back when I was in my late teens the rare 30+ cosplayers just seemed really cool and inspirational and they were usually much more talented than the younger ones due to the experience they had gained over the years.

In my opinion it all boils down to women being expected to dedicate themselves to "settling down" i.e. starting a family, those who won't are branded as self-obsessed dead egg cat lady spinsters who ignored their responsibility of being a mother and a homekeeper. The ones who didn't can maybe pick up a hobby when their children are adults and they finished their womanly duties. also suspecting this is why so many nerdy women have been trooning out when they're nearing their 30's

No. 604975

>>602109
thank you for giving us late 30's year old ladies some hope! honestly you rock anon! pls dont let anyone tell you otherwise!

No. 606164

I'm 28, married with no kids yet. I want kids but I don't feel ready to give up my freedom just yet.

I want to travel internationally at least once before having children but I don't know when that will be. I've always dreamed of going to Europe. I wish I had been brave enough to travel alone in my early 20s or study abroad or something if I had been able to afford it. I was too anxious to even drive an hour away from where I live back then, and its something I have worked on throughout the years. But when I feel insecure I beat myself up over it, how I feel like I'm always "behind."

I hope as I go into my 30s I can look ahead more and not go "what if, what if, what if" about my past.

No. 606291

I'm 26 years old, nearly 27, and am just now getting ready to move out of my parents house. I can't drive a car. I've never had a serious relationship. Dropped out of community college twice. No career, just random retail/fast food tier jobs. I feel like an 18 year old mentally trapped in the body of an adult because of my lack of life experience. People tell me I'll get there eventually, but I think they're just trying to make me feel better. Yes, I have been diagnosed with autism. Is it too late for me?

No. 606292

>>604777
25 is pretty old to be doing cosplay. 18-23 is basically college aged so it makes sense that they may not have a lot else going on. Ideally a normal 25 year old has an actual job and hobbies that keep them too busy for dress up games.

No. 606293

>>606292
>cosplay isn't an actual hobby

"Oops, I'm 26 now! Guess I'd better throw out all the costumes I've been making over the past ten years and never use the sewing skills I've cultivated for anything but quilts and samplers ever again."

No. 606296

>>606291
>is it too late for me?
Absolutely not. I'm 29 so I was also always under pressure to have my life together by now even when realistically my friends who stayed with their parents longer are doing better now because they were able to save up first instead of getting straight into debt. The people that moved out too early are in the worst situations.
But also if you're going to compare yourself to others it's important to consider how things are about to change for young people, our parents may have had houses and kids by our age but the next generations of young adults after us are going to be completely fucked. Don't let anyone shame you for moving out at 27 because the next wave of adults might be living with their parents forever.

No. 606308

>>606292
Glad you had such an easy college life full of free time, anon. I chose the wrong degree and had to get an actual job before I had as much time for hobbies as I did in high school, so I missed most of my acceptable cosplay window, I guess. By the way, what do you think of historical costumery? Should all the middle aged women involved in that still be playing their dress-up games?

No. 606311

I feel like there is some amount of juvenility I associate with certain hobbies (especially how the community works on the Internet) that I do think you should grow out of at some point.

No. 606314

>>606311
I feel like there's a difference between having a hobby and being significantly involved in the "community".
Let's be real: we all came here from cgl, but there's a reason I don't lurk there anymore. And a reason I hardly use IG anymore. But that doesn't stop me from making things I like either. If it doesn't interfere with the rest of my life, why does it matter? That's half the point of this thread.

(I've thought that maybe in 20 years, I'll be one of the historical reenactment ladies anyway. But, you know, that doesn't mean I have to be.)

No. 606315

>>606292
Ahh yes, hobbies. Such as cosplay, for example? I don't do it myself but combining sewing/craft skills with fandoms you enjoy and going to cons to socialize seems like a pretty good, fulfilling hobby.

Anyway you must be a teenager, come back when you realize you won't just lose interest in fun things when you hit fucking 25 of all ages lmao.

No. 606324

>>606292
Can't wait for you to hit 25 so your only acceptable after-work hobbies are reading mommy blogs and googling how to impress your hubby in bed to keep the spark going.

No. 606337

>>606292
dam wish I wasn't working on any uni free day due to being dirt poor and needing to pay my way haha, could've done so much cosplay haha

No. 606351

>>606292
>mfw this old as hell bait gets posted and people bite
But seeing how this is still a pretty popular serious discourse in cosplay it's so tiring, I could barely even fucking afford making costumes and visiting conventions at college age. Now at 30+ I've gained a decade worth of costume making skills, can get a nice hotel room for myself and don't have to pinch pennies when getting materials for my projects. Scavenging for scrap fabric and calculating tight budgets for costumes while rooming with 5 other people to save money was absolutely miserable.

>>606315
Cosplay as costume making is such an underrated hobby to begin with. It requires an extremely wide skillset to produce a good, faithful interpretation of the costume because there's all sorts of factors at play like sewing, prop making, makeup, artistic competence and charisma to some degree. Social skills are also required to interact with other hobbyists and improve by exchanging information and mingling. I know there are an assload of zoomers now just ordering a $30 costume from Aliexpress and putting it on for a TikTok video but that's like saying miniature model building is just kids playing with building blocks.

No. 606385

Any other anons just completely done with the idea of a career? I feel like my quarter life crisis was realising I don't give a fuck about the workplace, about any sort of career progression, about 'making it' in a successful job. I just want to enjoy my hobbies and relax. I don't want excess stress or responsibility and every hour I spend in work feels like an hour stolen from my life.

No. 606386

>>606385
Yes, but then how would I get the money necessary to not live in poverty?

No. 606397

>>606385
Not really, but then again I like my job just fine. I'm not keen on progressing to higher positions though, work is just something I go to do 8 hours a day, try to do it as best as I can and then leave it at the work place when I go home and not think about it anymore. I think young people are pushed way too hard to excel at the workplace when just showing up, replying to messages and doing what you're asked to is usually enough. Trying to be an overachiever just causes you to have a burnout or a debilitating impostor syndrome.

No. 606408


No. 606464

>>606385
Yes, but I’ve kinda come to terms with the fact that I’ll never have a “career” just “jobs”. I don’t think I’m alone in that. I’ve spent my 20s doing gigs that range from god-awful to interesting. I’ll never be a lawyer or a doctor (or likely have the money a “career” would provide) but I’m also not bound to doing the same thing for the rest of my life. We’ll see how I feel in 10 years at 40…yikes.

No. 606537

I feel like the idea that 30 is "older" for a woman is based on the past when, by this point, it was normal to be married and have multiple children which would cause visible ageing, combined with poorer nutrition and less adequate sun-care. So why is the wall a lower age than it used to be? I think a lot of it just incel scrotes lying to women to make them feel bad, like how roastie started getting thrown around. I think a lot of people peak in attractiveness around 25-35 when they're more financially stable and able to afford to dress and eat well, and if they've been fit their whole lives they usually have a nice firm body.

No. 606855

>>606537
men just try to shame women into marrying young since they can't use financial blackmailing anymore. before any ugly guy would have been guaranteed a wife because women would starve to death or have to sell themselves or whatever otherwise but now women have more choices and don't have no marry any socksweat smelling ugly the scrotes try to use psychological tactics to make women think they need to find guy for themselves, any guy, before it's too late!!

No. 606858

>>606855
>before any ugly guy would have been guaranteed a wife because women would starve to death or have to sell themselves or whatever otherwise

this is also an incel cope, anon.

No. 606859

>>606386
Create a Patreon or OF then siphon money off the rubes still in careers by guilting them.
It's what I see every other lazy ass doing.

No. 606867

>>606386

Wish they'd just hurry up and introduce UBI

No. 606889

How do I get over not having a proper college party phase?

No. 606902

>>606889
Did you want to have it? Just go and party now.

No. 606912

>>606889
Did you have any kind of crazy phase? Where I live we don't really have a culture around college and partying but I went through a phase of sleeping around and going to a bdsm nightclub for a while. I consider that my crazy 'wtf was I thinking' phase. That's the time I look back at and think "god I would never do that now" lol. But in a way I think it was good to get it out of my system. Having a wild time to look back on is weirdly comforting once life starts getting monotonous. Though I know lots who had kids early and skipped all that completely.

If it's just the drinking phase you missed out on you can always do that now

No. 606913

>>606889
Getting shitfaced and doing dumb shit you regret the next morning isn't worth it. It's not as glamorous as movies and instagram makes it look like.

No. 606929

>>606902
Are you retarded? This is a terrible time to party, plus I have no one to party with

>>606912
>Having a wild time to look back on is weirdly comforting once life starts getting monotonous
No I never had that phase and that's why I'm asking the question. Are you suggesting I drink by myself?

>>606913
No one asked for your opinion

No. 606933

>>606858
even if it is still doesn't change the motivation for the wall psyops and other shit they do now.

No. 606935

>>606929
I can see why you have no friends to party with

No. 606937

>>606935
I did have friends to party with in college, I just don't now since there's been COVID and I've moved back home

No. 606944

>>606929
>No one asked for your opinion
you literally did.

No. 606948

I get a bit jelly of all those college aged kids who could afford travelling the world somehow. I'm 26, a little less than a year ago I finally got a a job that would earn me enough money to properly travel, only for covid to hit and now I can't really plan going anywhere until this shit ends. I even got an airline credit card that lets me earn miles for every purchase and enjoy airport lounges for free. At least once it ends I might have enough miles to upgrade to first class.

No. 606959

>>606948
I feel you. I am scared of flying and had planned to try and fly this year and go abroad for my 30th but obviously papa covid had better ideas. I had flight vouchers for Christmas and everything. Maybe sometime before I'm 40, huh?

No. 606983

Where my late bloomer drug addicts at!

No. 606985

>>606948
i don't. even if i would have been able to travel, people that age are too vapid to actually do anything fun. it's always just lying by the beach in the resort and eating brunch in the resort restaurant.

No. 607005

>>604777
>They're the ones who will probably stop
They won't, they'll just feel terrible about it and pretend they're in on the joke and they're not being laughed at when their time comes, just like sh0e.

I don't mean this in a bad way, but women tend to be very stupid when it comes to local maxima, it's mind boggling. There's always a lot of getting a little advantage here at the expense of future self esteem, instead of quitting this hell game they're never going to win (because it's designed to keep anyone from ever winning) they tend to go "well, I'm not losing as badly as the others". Hell, it's often at the expense of their current self esteem, calling perfectly normal looking women "ugly", not realizing that this just makes them more insecure.

It makes me sad. I was terrified of growing old at fucking 15, at 19 I was mourning my lost youth and feeling like I had to apologize for no longer being a teenager. There's no winning. Just don't play.

No. 607059

>>606292
>sewing crafting and modeling isn't a real hobby

No. 607066

>>606889
Just remember that it ends, I had one and I just get sad remembering it and knowing that I'll never have it again

No. 607071

>>607066
Wow, this makes me feel so much better. Thanks.

No. 607080

>>606983
Idk if I’d say I’m late blooming so much as festering and trying not to up the ante.

No. 607081

>>606933
oh no, i'm just saying it all is that.

No. 607092

>>606983
There and got told up it's was too much and that it's more obvious than I thought.

No. 607326

>>606929
>Are you retarded?
>No one asked for your opinion
This is just hilarious.

No. 607495

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>tfw bf's great aunt still gets dick pics and messages from men
>she's like 65

kek seems like men don't change so don't worry about ageing too much farmers

>>606537
Everything incels say is a cope imo
They're bitter bitches because they know they're gonna die alone and want to drag everyone down with them.
If they don't want to improve their piss poor selfish attitudes it's their own fault tbh.

No. 608407

>>606889
I wish I could go back and not party so much in uni, so take solace in the fact that the grass isn't always greener on the other side. I feel like I wasted my 20s on alcohol and drugs and impressing losers.
>>607495
Yeah my mum has always been hit on my whole life (she's very beautiful and of course I favour my dad's side aha) so I never really bought into the "men won't touch you if you're not a 20 year old 10/10" meme

No. 608552

So I've hit 30 this year and decided I just can't drink alcohol anymore. The last time I did I just didn't get any enjoyment out of it and felt pretty bad afterwards so just haven't had anything since. But it has been weirdly liberating in a way? I've been out a few times since and it has felt good not to come back feeling like shit or doing something embarrassing, etc.

From like 17-25 I pretty much spent all my free time in a pub. When I stopped going as often the friends I had all them years just stopped contacting me too. They didn't seem interested in doing stuff outside a pub. Not even like going to a cinema or anything. I think a lot of people have this same kind of experience to, some people are only your friends in the setting of alcohol. I actually regret a lot of it now cos I feel like I've missed out on time I could have spent doing other things? I spend a lot of my weekends now going out into the countryside or travelling to nearby towns or going out to nice places for food, etc. When before it was "okay I'm going to the bar later, let's not do anything until 5pm cos I don't have time anyway"

>>606385
>>606397
I was a "high achiever" at my last job before this one and it burnt me hard. You get praise for being the best but then the bar is then set so high that even if others around you are still much worse than you, any slip up gets you punished way harder than those other people. The job I have now I am the bottom of the barrel but I'm much happier, actually somehow earn more and I don't have the responsibilities that cause stress or burnout. I can turn up, do my bit, then fuck off home and not have to think about work til the next day. No-one expects me to make big decisions or whatnot and I'm okay with that. Power isn't always a good thing.

No. 612218

Yaaay almost hitting my 30s. I still feel like I should be married and settled down by now, boo hoo hoo but at the same time I finally feel content being alone. I guess the only thing that sucks is that my friends who are married / have children can't hang out as freely, but there's really a lot of fun and enjoyment to be had by myself.

also you can be ugly and overweight and still get hit on even if your in your 50s+ kek. it really depends on the image you project + how much you are willing to put yourself out there and initiate the conversation.

also to the posters who are single and looking for a potential mate–have you considered mexican men or other races? white men are pretty boring and full of themselves tbh!

No. 614439

Bumping to cont. my story about my Nigel who didn't want to marry despite discussing it and a fucking 9 year long relationship.
I ended up putting my foot down and saying if he wouldn't fucking commit I was out in 2/3 month the time it would take me to land on my feet.
Turns out the idiot knows nothing about rings and was sweating over the fact I'm very picky about jewelry. Also it seems he tried to bring me to a jewelry store once but I said no because I was busy so he was clueless what to do after that.
Now, he got me a necklass (I'm not into rings and honestly, I couln't care less, I just wanted a fucking 20€ symbolic thing) and has been all clingy because it seems he really wants me and is now afraid I'm just gonna up and leave.

So, I guess it's a happy story even though it seems my Nigel is a bumbling idiot.

No. 614453

>>606537
Some ethnicities legit look better the older they are. There's exceptions like everywhere else, but I can't imagine girls in my country being "hot jailbait teens" because we tend to have stronger features like bumpy noses that look awkward as hell on teenagers, which paradoxically makes some people look older than they do at 25.
A very famous singer from my country used to look like a trashy mom when she was 18, now she wrecked her face with plastic surgery but she looked great until she was at least 45.

No. 614486

I'm turning 29 in a few weeks and I just now starting to get a sense of self. Because of childhood trauma and depression, I honestly felt like a shell of a person for so many years. It's great to finally establish an identity but I hate the fact that I wasted so many years

No. 614488

>>614486
Don't think like that. Some people will never get it

No. 614515

>>614439
>9 years together
>doesn't want to marry
>only wants to marry after you threaten to leave him

yeah this is a mistake

No. 614538

>>614515
Welp, I'm not getting back on the dating market at fucking 30 having to basically start again from almost nothing so I guess we'll see how it goes.

No. 614540

>>614538
Why not? Will it be better when you're, idk 35? Or 40?

No. 614544

I'm 27 and I never was in love with anyone. A psychologist told me once that you can't fall in love ever when you didn't before you turn 20. But I swear this time is gonna be different. I am taking it really slow with this guy and I feel how my feelings grow stronger by the day. When I watch love scenes I usually roll my eyes into my skull but now I can watch them and it feels really nice.

No. 614548

>>614544
you give me hope anon! fingers crossed everything works out for you!

No. 614550

>>614540
I'm hoping I'll have a more sizeable nest egg at 35 or 40, yeah.
Maybe I'll be worse off on the dating end, but at least I won't have too be fucking poor again (because due to health issues, leaving right now would basically eat all of my savings and force me to move back at my parents).
I don't mind the idea of being a 40yo farmer, giving very bitter advices and horrible anecdotes to our wide eyed still hopeful 23yo younglings, kek.

No. 614551

>>614544
> A psychologist told me once that you can't fall in love ever when you didn't before you turn 20.
what is this bullshit btw

No. 614553

>>614544
>A psychologist told me once that you can't fall in love ever when you didn't before you turn 20.
t-that's bs right?

No. 614561

>>614544
I fell in love the first when I was 21, two months before 22. It's wild.

No. 614565

>>614544
Excuse me, but your psychologist is an idiot

No. 614572

>>614561
Kek, you made the cut off this crazy shrink made up!
Seriously, maybe she was trying to say that people that don't fall in love young just have higher standard/threshold for what they consider love.
Don't fret young anons, you'll get your butterflies and sunshine (before it all goes to shit)

No. 614574

>>614486
I'm happy for you anon! I also struggle with this problem, I hope it will resolve

No. 614575

>>614544
I fell in love at 19 and had my heart broken at 24 with him suddenly walking, fell in love again at 27 and by 30 was hurt again but by cheating that time. There's no timeline here, you can fall in love multiple times over your lifetime no matter when you start. But it might turn to shit every time too, luck of the draw lol

No. 614606

I've never been inlove in my adult life. I've been inlove when I was like 8. I'm 28 now oh shit theres no hope.

No. 614644

>>614551
>>614553
>>614565
Kek it was a dirty moid and I only saw him once. He also told me, he was surprised I was nervous and said that's because he is a man and I am a woman. Excuse me while I throw up

No. 616222

>>606385
Yes, and it used to keep me up at night thinking about how we're forced to spend so much time doing something we don't care about in order to survive. It's hard for me to relax when I work full-time because there's always a clock in my head counting down to when I have to return to misery. I just want to be able to afford a studio apartment and a modest lifestyle working no more than 30 hours a week so I can dedicate my life to my art and hobbies instead.

No. 616330

So I never had a partying phase in high school because I wasn't in that crowd. I thought ok, i'll just do it in college. Then in college I struggled with making friends (lmao) and had bad physical/mental health. I ended up taking time off, but even when I did have friends they didn't really like to drink.

When I returned to college I did have more opportunities to go out, but 1. I still had health issues, and 2. I was really bad at time management. I kinda regret not drinking more last year when I was studying abroad and my workload was pretty low.

Now I'm 26, my hangovers are pretty bad, and I'm stuck home at quarantine while my friends have graduated.

The thing is I do have plenty of crazy stories but I just feel like I never got to fill up my bucketlist.

No. 616337

>>614606
There's people who fall in love in their 70s. Love does not have an age limit no matter what incels say on reddit

No. 616343

Anyone else an awkward mess/failure of a person at this age? I want to have a life before 30, but I'm ugly and unsociable. I feel like punishing myself whenever I get embarrassed and my social anxiety is potent. I had a therapist before but she stopped seeing me after my agoraphobia was cured.

Obviously one of the things I should do is get a job, but transportation is non-existent here. Does anyone have an online job? And would it be better if I went to college at this point?

No. 616354

>>602833
It's ok, I think she married a german guy so it worked out well for her. Obviously better than her wasting her life in a place where men don't care about her.

No. 616646

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>>601371
It feels really weird to me that I already perceive teenagers as different species (I'm 26). Just can't connect with them. Their fashion and favorite music is shit to me. My bf is a professor at university and it buffles me how ill-mannered the majority of students is. I've also had a misfortune of tutoring one highschooler and I still shudder recalling this little fucker. He wasn't rude on purpose, it seems that he somehow didn't know how to behave himself, what was appropriate in a context of our relationship and what wasn't. I hate teens lol

No. 616657

>>616646
We're a similar age anon and I've genuinely tried too. It feels like there's such a disconnect between teens of today and people in their 20s. I have a little brother in law, and all he does is blast out-of-key mumble rappers who all sound the same, and make "thirst trap" videos on tiktok. The bulk of our conversations consist of girls he met on tiktok, cheap jewelry he bought off eBay, and his next generic anime tattoo. It's emotionally draining trying to locate some depth to his personality. Poor kid.

No. 616684

>>616354
How'd you find out?

No. 616701

>>614544

My first relationship longer than a fortnight was from age 21 and lasted about two years and it was definitely whatever love is. I've never felt it since then unfortunately, only met people through online dating and never quite managed to get the stars to align with both being interested in each other and both open to a relationship all at the same time so that something could grow.
I'm 28 now. Happy with my career and hobbies but really not sure how to meet people properly, it seems like apps are so easy that a lot of decent people who would be trying to matchmake through friends and so on just use Tinder instead - but then the general awfulness of the dating 'culture' on Tinder set by the majority poisons every interaction on it at least a little.

No. 616718

For the anons worrying if partners are better found via friends or "organic" meetings like at the gym versus dating apps, don't worry, it's all a shitshow regardless.

I've been burned way worse by following who my friends suggest than getting to know a stranger from the internet. I think it's because we tend to be generous with the benefit of the doubt about dates referred to us by friends. We let our guards down, whereas from dating apps we're more discerning at the first sign of bullshit because they're outsiders. We want to trust our friend's matchmaking judgment, or perhaps don't want to upset the friendship dynamic by implying the friend they suggested for dates is trash when they're friends with that person too.
It's messy, and then when shit falls through it's so fucking awkward. 0/10 wouldn't recommend.

No. 616720

Early thirties anon. I don't want kids, have always been fairly certain of that fact. But lately it occurred to me that IF I did then I would need to get that in gear soon.. and that thought freaks me out. Again I don't even want kids so??

I think my age is just sinking in, I've always mentally felt younger than I am. Anyone else relate?

No. 616724

>>616720
If you can afford to have eggs frozen that doesn't seem like a bad idea in case you change your mind later.

No. 616728

>>616724
Like I said I don't want kids, it's just the thought that it confirms my maturity that freaks me out.

I mean I look weirdly young, I feel young and yet I'm a couple years away from being in a whole new risk category If I got pregnant. Tbh I went through something similar when I got a mortgage 'like woah I'm THAT grown up now?' I don't feel my age til something really reminds me

No. 616734

>>616720
I'm 26, don't want kids either. But if I ever will, I consider adoption. It's really not necessarry to procreate, I don't think that my genes are this precious. Also childbirth experience seems rather horrifying than magical, and I don't find babies to be cute tbh. The idea of giving love and some nice opportunities to an orphan is more pleasant to me.

No. 616899

I have a bit of a rant. The thing about "the wall meme" saying girls partied and fucked in their 20s and cant get a man in their 30s becuz they rejected all the nice boys. HELLO, when I was in my 20s and teens i wasnt that pretty and was bullied by every guy. What happened is i only had abusive dead beat bfs or men trying to use me for sex while they wait for their dream girl. I tried to get married and have kids young, it isnt my fault it was the scrotes fault. A guy literally told me I will have more luck in my 30s with dating because "young guys want pretty girls". Now all the scrotes from the early 2000s who rejected me for not being pretty enough, want me because they're all fat and desperate. No thank you and I hate reading this wall bullshit because they act like everyone was some cutie blonde stacy when they were young.I WANTED TO BE IN A SERIOUS RELATIONSHIP WHEN I WAS YOUNG BUT YOU FUCKING SCROTES DIDNT WANT ME THEN. You fucking scrotes felt the shy virgin was only good for a late night pump and dump while you go chase popular girls who didnt want you…and now this is my fault?

No. 616916

>>616899
> girls partied and fucked in their 20s and cant get a man in their 30s becuz they rejected all the nice boys.
It's just them describing themselves in the pursuit of Stacy and hoping the worst for her after she rejected him.

Notice how Meg, Becky, or femcel is entirely nonexistent outside of mentions like "lol just spread ur legs at a bar and u can get laid" with zero thought on relationships.

No. 616937

>>616916
I wouldnt even be so pissed off at the wall meme if I actually got to experience being pretty with tons of dating options but this has never happened. I never got to party and fall inlove with hot guys when I was young. I was in my room alone listening to hello project idols and occasionally a loser would latch on to me use for sex. I feel like pretty Stacy's can actually grow old content becuz they actually got to experince all that fun stuff when they were young.

No. 616964

>>616899
Be careful, cause now the fat and desperate scrotes are looking for the low self-esteem women they bullied back then who have their shit together now. Instead of using women for their bodies (cause they know they can't size up to pump n dump anymore), they want to use women who have the money, the transportation, the homes, and the ambition so they can attach to them like a parasite and flop.
They know women often want commitment and kids so they will dangle that carrot in order to get women to take them in, but don't buy it.

Now more than ever you have to be vigilant because there's more shit to lose.

No. 617062

My bf has said he will get a vasectomy to stop me from spending all my savings on paying to get sterilised. He's a keeper. I am so happy! I posted earlier in the thread about him not wanting to get it done because the numbing puts him off, but he said he realised how dumb that sounds compared to what I'd have to go through and what I have been through. We agreed to go for it next year and I honestly cannot wait.

No. 617489

>>617062

That's a ludicrous reason for him to not want a vasectomy and it's good that he realised it, especially as a vasectomy is so so much less medically intrusive than a hysterectomy. With that said, take care that he doesn't feel like you used your planning-to-get-sterilised actions to indirectly blackmail him into getting a vasectomy himself to stop you from doing something so invasive and irreversible - do make sure you talk to him and make sure he's happy with his choice and does accept it is his choice (with, obviously, some input from your desires too)

Anyway, congrats, glad to hear it worked out for you two.

No. 617525

>>606537
>>606855
I am wondering where everyone is hanging out where theres nothing but fuckboys and scrotes. Maybe everyone should hang out somewhere else.

No. 617527

>>606537
You're right.
35 is the new 30. Women are healthier, get out of school later, have children later.

No. 617547

I'm older and in between having a life, but I'd like to hear from anons that had kids later and any information about conceiving. Was it difficult? Easy? Is fertility something to be reasonable concerned with in late 20s knowing you won't be settling down within the next few years?

No. 617588

>>617525
kek any suggestions?

No. 617630

>>617547
This is something I'm constantly worried about. I'm 30 and I've always wanted kids but I find men mostly repulsive now and have a hard time finding one that I'm compatible with and who's single. I'm trying to come to terms with the fact that I'm probably going to end up childless and it depresses the fuck out of me. Maybe I'll just get 5 dogs or something.

No. 617656

>>617630
Fuck a random dude that looks like he has good genes (ask for a history of mental illness in the family on the date before you fuck him) and have your kid by yourself.
You don't need the dude around, nonnie.

No. 617666

>>617630
I know it's easier said than done and you might only want biological kids, but you could always consider adopting.
I've become more open to the idea of kids over the years but the idea of being with a man and knocked up by one really turns me off so I kind of feel you there.
>>617656
This is shit advice.

No. 617676

>>617656
Normally I would ignore low grade bait like this but it just depresses me that they can't even leave the 26+ thread alone

>>617666
I think people consider adoption as some easy solution because there are so many kids in need of a good home but the truth is that adoption is a pretty complex procedure and it can take anywhere from 5 to 10 years to actually get a child because the screening process is extremely long and strictly regulated. Which is obviously good because you don't want pedophiles adopting kids left and right just to abuse them, that's why a lot of countries don't allow single parents to adopt. Not everyone is suitable to adopt either, the children can come with severe attachment and behavioral problems due to the abandonment they've experienced which is also why the screening progress takes so much time. This is obviously not always the case and regardless the kids deserve a good home that allows them to thrive but adoption is way more complicated than people think imo. I was actually considering it because blood relation isn't that important to me but the more I looked into it the less suitable option it became. Maybe I'll just get a wife and IVF so I don't have to bring up the kid on my own.

No. 617683

>>617676
That's why I said it's easier said than done. I know about all of those things but I still wanted to put it out there in case it was something anon hadn't considered. I get that it's hard even if you really want it, though.

No. 617690

>we are too old to have any enjoyment in life but also too young to just die and move out the way.
jesus christ op, go and straight up kill yourself if it's so traumatic for you to hit 26. Fucking melodramatic cringe, out of context anyone would thought you are talking about turning 60 and retiring instead.

Go fucking outside you dumb bitches and develop actual personalities and skills other than being the usual generic zoomer/millenial trendy girl shit and people will start to appreciate you beyond your age. Too many users in this site literally have no personality, the same mentality and no hobbies other than stereotypical girly and normie stuff teenagers are into, no wonder you are all so terrified of the simple thought of nearing 30.

No. 617693

>>617676
Wasn't bait and it was honestly way more of an actual option than adoption.
IVF cost A FUCKING LOT. I hope your wife is rich.

No. 617704

It's paiful how everyone in this thread is so depressed because they spend their early 20s partying and drinking (or at least many anons did), and what worries me about me turning 30 is the fact I've been dealing with trauma from prolonged childhood abuse and beating and I didn't manage to score any serious relationship and it's harder for me to keep a stable job. I live in a 3rd world shithole and I'm really scared of this becoming even harder as I age.

Seriously, fuck off. No one cares about you developing some wrinkles while you've got a so and a job. And if you don't have any traumas or mental problems bitch all you want about throwing your 20s away because all you are dealing with are the consequences of your own actions, and the only one to blame is yourself. No one was putting a gun to your head when you prioritized getting shitfaced over learning to do something competent with your life.

In fact young women like me with difficulties in their lives have to deal with the stigma you lazy bitches leave behind with your irresponsibility, making us even less employable and to be taken less seriously. First world women are so disgustingly vain and self-absorted.

No. 617715

>>617690
that's a small view ya got there

No. 617719

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No. 617720

>>617704
I'm sad because I never partied or anything when I was young.

No. 617722

>>617704
>young women like me
This is the old bitch thread, hide it if you don’t like it dumbass. Don’t come in here making random assumptions about everyone else just because you don’t like what they have to say about their lives.

No. 617724

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>>617720
I feel this. Let’s throw a party anon

No. 617725

>>617704
Holy shit go for a walk

No. 617938

What the fuck is everyone putting so much weight on partying lmfao. The music sucks 99% of the time and I rather play video games at home.

No. 617951

>>617938
It’s not like there’s Party Music™ that has to be played at every gathering, the music is subjective to the taste of the host or vibe of the crowd.

No. 617954

>>617951
that's not necessarily true depending on who you hang out with.

No. 617959

>>617938

Partying thins the herd so I'm all for it.

No. 617972

>>617954
ayrt, that’s the exact sentiment I was trying to put across kek

No. 618026

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>>618024
Yo kid we're not ur enemy, don't go fucking blame us for judgmental moids??? What the fuck. Look I'm just a 30yr old autistic cunt whose had to deal with mental issues of my life. Heck we're on lolcow, i bet you most of the oldfags that are still on here here have had to deal with shit too. Christ. I'm drunk. Sorry. But don't shit on your fellow females ok

Also I wish I fucking partied but mostly I just masturbated and cried in my twenties

No. 618042

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I thought I was the only one who felt this. I'm no spring chicken myself but god damn. The men mu age are starting to look 60 and I'm only 28.

No. 618046

>>617938
I guess it's not about the partying itself but about the social accomplishments is represents. Like you where enough of a outgoing, extroverted social butterfly to enjoy an active social life and get invited to parties and not ridden with anxiety and depression stuck at home.

No. 618048

I'm 27 and honestly I don't really feel like it, probably because I'm young looking and I still live with my parents (housing crisis in a big european city yay~). I actually have zero desire for kids, marriage or even dating so at least I'm not worrying about my clock ticking or meeting a good guy. What kinda annoys me is when older coworkers (both at my current and previous jobs) go "when I was your age I used to party every night and fool around with different guys, you are wasting your youth", like I'm not interested at all in this kind of lifestyle, leave me alone.

No. 618050

Covid made me a neet and just I never want to go back. Honestly I'm 25 and just would rather never work again. I have 30k saved up and a fiance who would take care of me if given the choice not to have a job.
I've spent so many years fucking around in college switching majors and still no degree. I've spend last year just freaking out with what I was gonna do with my life and what kind of job I wanted. When I come to the realization I don't want it. But I feel like its some taboo and I'm a freak if I don't want to find some job that will fit me.
Like I take those stupid quizzes for what kind of job would fit me and just get anxiety over wasting more money in college. I feel too old to go back and finish anything.

No. 618057

>>618050
>30 k saved up

Based I'm a 24 yr old poorfag any advice on how to save money? Btw you're not alone in wanting to be taken care off I really had no ambition other than just wanting to live a quiet life and have a couple of kids.

No. 618065

>>618057
Ally bank.

It's not hard: when you get paid, take money out and put it aside to a place where it'll be a hassle to get the money out

No. 618066

>>618050
>Honestly I'm 25 and just would rather never work again
Same. I worked my ass off at low paying jobs where I was pushed to my limits and treated like garbage for the past ten years. Losing my job to COVID was the best thing that could have happened to me. I never want to work again.

No. 618068

>>617938
Tbh I love the party scene as a social retard because everyone's drunk so people are less likely to remember something embarrassing you've done and the music is so loud that no one is really paying attention to the conversation so the pressure is off to say the right thing

No. 618075

>>618042
Find someone that didn't start balding at 25.

No. 618081

>>618042
Men on OLD are notorious for lying about their age

No. 618100

>>617489
Don't worry anon, we will discuss it in much more detail in the months leading up to it. When he told me, I got excited but felt quite guilty for feeling that way. He sat down and held my hand and insisted it made sense and that he felt he was being stupid and childish for feeling the way he did. He insists he doesn't feel pushed into it as we have briefly discussed it a few years back and since then, it has been me leading the charge to get sterilised myself. I have saved up some money and done my research, so it is there if in the end he feels he cannot go through with it. I wouldn't mind getting it done, but I do feel quite relieved he is willing to do that for both of us. Thank you for your concerns though!

No. 618299

>>618048
That’s rude. Housing has climbed so highly in expense that kind of lifestyle isn’t realistic anymore anyway.

No. 618340

>>617938
Because different people have different interests? Good for you for being different than other girls

>>618050
How do you have so much saved up if you've been fucking around in college?

No. 618379

Like some of the anons above I am also 27 and I don't feel my age, partly because I haven't reached the stage of my life where I have a career and an apartment without roommates. I had to abandon my studies when I was in the middle of completing my degree because I was spiralling out of control (fleeing abusive relationship + addiction problems). I've been stable for a few years now, but I hate that so much of my middle 20s was spent getting clean when I ~*should have been doing a master's degree and all that. I'm now going back to school to finish my undergrad, but I find it a bit strange that as I approach 30 I'm putting more value in the idea of having children and a partner to share a life with. I didn't expect these things would become important to me. I've been dating someone for a while and I feel like I love him so dearly that I don't want to let go, but I'm quite certain that he does not see a future in our relationship. So I feel like a stereotype of a woman in her late 20s and resent it to some degree.

No. 618385

>>618340
NTA but some colleges give money to students, I barely paid anything because my school gave financial aid for being over 24 and poor.

No. 618397

I live in a major city, I’m 29 and nobody I know is married or has children. Also I party a lot…still. Am I living the dream or doomed?

No. 618415

>>618397
I think this is fairly normal for metropolitan areas, it's one of the reasons I love the city.

No. 618684

27y have 2 cats, a bf and we getting our home this year(new one getting build) can i have my ring alredyyyy i feel old, every one is having kids, weddings etc

No. 618690

>>618684
I mean the house is a bigger commitment than a wedding. I married young and learnt that walking out of a marriage is way easier than even trying to break a lease..

No. 618710

>>618690
True anon, true
And i know it all but i started feeling old and rly craw that „family”? Well no kids but i hope u know what imma talking about. Just a old girl feeling old

No. 619889

>>618690

The house seems to be the thing that fucks a lot of people up.

No. 622495

Anon-chans, is it even worth comforting, supporting a woman who is 26yo but is a trad+rightwing-addict that panders and hangs out only around men all the time for the sake of validation? Thing is, she is very desperate for love (even tho she had a long relationship on which she spent half of her life up until recently because she's been using him as a parent) in order to forget about her depression and insecurities? She really believes that she can't be happy without being in a relationship (even though she's been the same depressed person in relationship too, with which her so gave up because he had to do everything including work and home)? The thing is that I feel horrible for her and I want her to understand that it's better to spend time on having some good life moments rather than trying to leech of any random man she meets in videogames, but I know all she gonna do is say and think that I don't get it because I am taken which she is jealous about (to a point she refuses to spend time w me because, and no, farmers, i am bi and she is the straightest woman I have known. I was suggesting her if she would like maybe trying dating women, but she refused).

I feel like there's no point but my empathy is kicking me because this kind of a thing is so common around people, but damn.

No. 622499

>>622495
People who say you don't need a relationship to be happy are the most annoying.
All your friends are going to get married at some point, they're not going to keep spending time with you, you have to to something to make sure you don't end up alone when that happens. And even ignoring that, relationships simply matter.

No. 622512

>>622499
>All your friends are going to get married at some point
Gee, and I wonder why that is… because people like you keep fear mongering until women are willing to settle for literally anything just to be married. And chances are, many of them will end up divorced anyway.

Anon's friend is obviously going to be far worse off if she stays with any random asshole for the sake of it than if she ends up single and with a mediocre social life. As if that's the worst case scenario…

No. 622523

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>>622499
>make sure to get a man sweetie, otherwise your life will definitely be miserable, because after marriage all wammenz stop having a life outside of their home

No. 622534

>>622499
I feel like you didn't read anon's post at all, her friend wants a relationship just to feel complete. She feels like she can't be happy without being in a relationship. That's not normal or healthy behavior.

>>622495
Honestly, no. I've known too many people like your friend and it's exhausting. My ex-coworker was like your friend but in her late 30s and it was the most embarrassing display of pickmeness I'd ever seen. She likely needs more support than you can give.

No. 622537

>>622499
Not too sure if you are baiting or something, however I understand your frustration. My friend is surronded by a loving family that takes care of her to a point where her own mother does all housework instead of her. She also has 4 childhood friends that are single and her age, not counting a whole bunch of people who she prefers spending time with: manchilds who are joking that women should be only in the kitchen unironically, while praising shit like Ben Shapiro's sister etc, all because they give her the attention she's carving, no matter how humiliating it looks like: the second she broke up everyone started hitting on her and now all they do is make compliments that always resolve only around sex. Same people also never seen her irl. And she is so brainwashed with tradright propoganda to a point that she thinks this tweet >>622523 is actually true and how things should be. She is very obsessed with the idea that women are supposed to be nothing but men-pleasing machines and incubators that should also never work a day in their lives (even though she doesn't do anything in a house she lives in and quit her friends job after working for 3 months for the first time in her life because she did not like it and is now spending all her time screaming with fake voice in videogames, pretending to be not like the other women who are ~one of the boys~.

It makes me feel horrible for her. She also, again, like many shuwu fans believe that women "hit the wall". I just want to help.

No. 622543

>>622523
That woman is pathetic but also
>pridemore
Kek

No. 622552

I turn 28 this month. I honestly feel a lot better about turning 28 than any other birthday I've had in my 20's so far, other than being the fattest I've ever been. But I just moved to an area where recalibrating my lifestyle will be a lot easier, so I'm confident I'll finally lose weight.

I'm still in college (took a long break due to intensely traumatic events that occurred when I was a freshman) but I'm married to a very amazing person I've been with for 6 1/2 years now. We have 6 figures from inheritance that we pretty much never touch, so that's pretty great.

Over all, life is pretty good. I just need to stop being a fat alcoholic who eats like shit. I should probably start seeing a therapist again and actually deal with my trauma in a healthy way.

No. 622599

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>>622552
I'm so happy for yuo anon, you can do it!

No. 622623

felt really old today because I found out my coworker (who is higher ranking than I) who I thought was like 5+ years older than me is actually 2 years younger than me

I've also just this year decided to go for a bachelor's in computer science, and it's gonna take me at least 4 years to complete that, which means I'm gonna be at least 30 when I complete it. it almost feels pointless, but then I remember that 4 years ago feels like yesterday to me and if I had started 4 years ago I'd have a degree now.

No. 622629

>>622495
i think all you can do really is just keep inviting her to hang out

No. 622631

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>>622499
lol jokes on you my best friend is an asexual academic and my other friends are child free and couples, some of whom don’t believe in marriage. them being coupled off doesn’t make any impact on our friendships whatsoever, work and distance does. miss me with settling for a scrote because some of my friends happen to be in relationships

No. 622650

>>622631
I’m jealous as hell, can’t meet any woman who doesn’t fall over herself for a pathetic man, even if she starts out pretending to be a bad bitch

No. 622740

>>622623
God I swear this thread should've been just 28+. Is 26 years old some kind of a threshold where you start crying about how old you are and how everything is pointless because your "life is practically over" despite still being extremely young? You can go get your degree just fine, I know plenty of people who went back to uni because they wanted to witch careers. There's literally nothing strange about it and it happens all the time.

No. 624814

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here goes nothing. https://discord.gg/f2Qwp2

No. 624973

>>622740
to be fair it doesn't help that some farmers treat hitting 25 as a death sentence, and if you're on this thread you've obviously spent more than a little time here. reading something over and over again can affect you and you start to believe the validity of it, and now we've got women in their mid/late 20's on here believing its too late for them once they hit 25 and there's no choice but to drop all youthful fashion, wear a muumuu, and take up knitting.

No. 627556


No. 633442

>>602022
I'm 28 years old and I'm still a technical virgin (I only gave oral sex to my first boyfriend at 25 which, he turned out to be married).
I have never felt the itch that much, I sometimes feel horny, watch some gay porn for 3 minutes and that is it. I should feel lucky but I sometimes feel there is something wrong with me.
I sometimes want to cuddle a large human that smells nice and has a deep voice but that is as far as I go with wanting to touch a male.

No. 633447

>>627556
I bet I'd fit in better here as an old soul but I guess I will wait 2 years

No. 634410

Bless this thread. I turned 27 this year and have not been handling it well; aging is a huge fear of mine. As someone above mentioned, society basically considers women old and useless once they hit the 30-year mark. We’re also expected to have our lives together and our futures completely mapped out by this point. As someone who has had a really rough few years (major health issues, family problems, sudden tragedies), I am nowhere near living up to everyone’s expectations, and it makes me feel like garbage. I’ve convinced myself that I’ve missed my opportunity to make the most of out life and am now essentially just waiting to die. (I am aware of how silly that sounds and desperately need to adjust my attitude.) I also have TERRIBLE social anxiety, but I’d love to be able to talk to/connect with other women my age. I have no idea where to meet them, though.

No. 639356

How do you deal with all of your friends getting into relationships? Being single didn't bother me as much as when I had a ton of single friends. Now it seems like everyone i know is getting paired off or even engaged/married. Also I moved somewhere new and it's annoying not having your usual circle being so dependable during a time like this.

No. 639442

>>634410
Why don't you make a discord server for that anon? I'm sure other anons here in a similar position would join.

No. 639693

>>639356
Don't ignore them, but focus on yourself and your surroundings, if dating is a priority. You likely won't meet single people or expand your circle if you expend all your social energy on your past friends. Hard to do that at the moment, but the worst thing you can do when your single is isolate yourself from meeting new people. People in their late 20s/early 30s are probably in their boyfriend to husband relationship (first husband for some lol) so they're likely to grow more safe and stable socially as you all age. A late 20s girl with no kids, no divorces attached is pretty much every guy's wish list at that age. The great filter of dating beings to happen soon. I think you'll be fine as long as you stay motivated.

No. 639748

I turned 26 this year and life has never been better for me.

I feel so dumb for thinking I'd look 50 in my mid to late 20s as a teenager. Now my problem is looking too young (knock on the wood). I'm 26 and I still get mistaken for a high school kid. I used to wear makeup to fix that but I only wear makeup for video calls since it'll just get all over a place when I wear a mask. Funny how that one worked out.

Covid was actually a blessing in disguise for me. I got laid off from a job I loved. I spam applied to my dream company until I finally landed an interview. I work there now, over double the salary, going to look fucking amazing on my resume, blah blah blah yay me. I'm buying baby's first DESIGNER designer purse next weekend to treat myself. It's a classic style I've been in love with for years but could never justify (you know that weird area where you CAN afford something but maybe shouldn't buy it still?). Now it's not even a drop in the bucket. Feels weird but good.

I dreaded relationships when I was younger because I have always known that I wanted to be child-free and probably not even married, so on top of all of the other requirements I had, how was I supposed to find that? It worked out. I found the perfect guy and he's my best friend at that, so it's just a really happy and stress free relationship, especially since he's been well aware of my autistic hobbies and even shares most of them with me.

I think the only thing I wouldn't consider perfect is the friend situation. I know a lot of people who never have and never will try to better themselves but will continue to be miserable about their lives anyway still hanging around a few of my friend groups. The friend groups themselves are great but I've already started being more active about not trying to help these types of people anymore. It's not my job to try to fix someone else's life.

I've worked really hard all my life and I've always been REALLY set on my goals for everything. It hasn't always been easy and I've pushed through a lot of hard times where I probably should have taken a break but it just feels really good to have it all working out now. I thought I'd have killed myself at this point but I'm the happiest I've ever been.

No. 639793

I felt "too old" my entire twenties, then one day I just wouldn't have it anymore. I left my long term bf when I was 29, went back to university and my life is so awesome now. I'm 33 now and I'll have my bachelor soon and start my masters degree and am already able to work in my field. I met some awesome fuckboys and friends along the way, took up sports and am in the best shape of my life. I just do whatever the fuck I want and I just love my life. Don't sacrifice shit for anyone, don't compromise. Love yourselves sisters!

No. 639804

>>622512
This. The divorce rate for marriages is 50 percent anyway. I feel like women are pressured to grab whatever they can just so they don't have to "die alone" or look like crazy dead egg cat ladies in the eyes of others. A lot of my friends who break up with their boyfriends are neurotic about getting into a relationship again and seem to ignore red flags just to grab on to the first guy who drifts by, simply out of fear of being alone. I swear I've had to explain so many times to confused people that no, I'm not feeling lonely being single and no, I'm not actively looking for a relationship. And they just don't understand why a woman in her 30's would be like this.

>>639793
Good for you anon! 30's is the new 20's for many and it's not at all too late to start over again.

No. 639836

>>639804
>neurotic about getting into a relationship again and seem to ignore red flags just to grab on to the first guy who drifts by, simply out of fear of being alone

People like this scare me.

No. 639851

I'm at the apex of my 30s and have failed to create any lasting female friendships in adulthood due to trust issues with other women. It's not a jealousy thing, if anything I have mommy issues and end up spoiling female friends even more than my husband or past bfs. Then they pull shit like sitting in dresses with their legs wide open in front of my husband.
How do you even find friends in your 30s, more importantly ones that aren't shitheads?

No. 639858

I'm 27, has anyone else just completely gotten so apathetic about other people (including men) compared to before? Can't tell if it's an age thing or just depression and traumatic experiences with people. I don't hate it, but sometimes I miss being able to care for people the same way I did before if that makes sense? And I don't know if there's something wrong with me and feel kind of guilty when it's difficult for me to reciprocate someone else's feelings towards me (romantic or friend) even though I do care about them.
I'm super independent now when before I could not bare losing ANY of my old friends even though they were so shitty. I used to constantly need to hang out with someone and felt so lonely all the time. I used to be codependent, it was all so bad. Now I barely even care. It's wild.
Also have no intention of getting a boyfriend or anything (not that I don't want one, just don't care either way) and before I wanted one so badly.

No. 639861

Can you loveley ladies give some advice to us early-mid 20s anons?

No. 639862

>>639861
Ignore relationships. Focus on your female and gay guy friendships. Focus on your hobbies. Be selfish but not a sociopath. Wear sun screen.

No. 639864

>>639858
Just sounds like you burned yourself out caring/have a new coping mechanism to deal with loneliness?

No. 639867

Fellow cakes, how do I stop daydreaming about the past?

No. 639869

>>639867
You mean like when we were just eggs and flour?

No. 639875

Say no when you feel it’s right. Don’t commit to more than you’re capable of. You don’t have to “impress” anyone, take things as a learning experience. If someone tries to guilt you into doing things you aren’t comfortable with, especially of the sexually kind, leave. And remember your own time is more valuable than waiting for people who keep wasting it.

No. 639909

>>639867
Wait, what‘s a cake?

No. 639913

>>639909
fuck off dumbass

No. 639918

>>639913
That's a totally rational reply

No. 639933

>>639909
Japanese otaku slang for women over 25 years old. As in christmass cake after christmass day, old and no one will eat it anymore. Just the usual Japanse misogyny.

No. 640089

Most of the time I'm super ok with being single but during some moments I get so scared and think, what if I really will be forever alone? Today I watched a tv show and there was a 40yo who said she's never been in a relationship, what if that's gonna be me? Being alone in your 20s is okay, but what if later on there's nobody left because all people I know are already taken/engaged/married? Sometimes I feel like me not minding having no bf and saying I have so much time is just a cope. That I will keep telling myself the same thing in my 30s and suddenly I'm middle aged and still don't have a guy. What if I regret it?
Many girls I know are never single because they're quick to date or settle for a guy, but my standards are high, so chances of me not liking anybody enough and thus being alone will also be high…

No. 640090

>>640089
All of the good guys get taken in their 20s

No. 640093

>>639862
How do you focus on female friendships when they’re all paired up?

No. 640094

Anyone want to start a discord server for women 25+?

No. 640095

>>640090
That's how it seems to me as well.
But sadly none of the cute and nice guys were interested in me when I was younger, so now there's just me and guys left who look like they browse 4chan.

No. 640096

>>640094
I don't want to start it but I would join lol

No. 640098

>>640096
Discord.gg/AApp2sD

I don’t know the first thing about running a discord server

No. 640105

>"the wall is not real"
>even here everyone starts to panic at 25 and there's a special thread for women 26+
So which one is it? It's hard not to feel like denying the wall is just a cope when even in a place like this your mid-late 20s are seen as some kind of point of no return and you need special skin care and other shit. And everyone feels like there's no good potential partners left, because most long-lasting couples pair up in their 20s. I'm in no way comparing women here to incels because they will never be as bad and hopeless as incels, but there has to be some reason behind it.

No. 640107

>>602149
>>602140
I know I'm replying to an old post, but the only reason a man won't get a vasectomy (which are reversible) is because men love the idea of knocking women up "accidentally" while refusing to get snipped or wear a rubber. It's still hard to get abortions in most places, and BC is a mixed bag of side effects and long term changes to your body, but the snip is easy, low pain, amd reversible. There's no reason a man who says he doesn't want kids shouldn't get it, except maybe the secret appeal of being able to derail a woman's life with his dick and pretend it can't be helped.

No. 640108

>>640107
Not to be radfem but men literally used and still use their dicks as weapons against women. Why would they give that up. Your nigel isn't special unless he's willing to give up that weapon.

No. 640115

>>640105
> because most long-lasting couples pair up in their 20s
I'm in my thirties and currently watching enough of my peers/friends divorce, I feel like nowadays we kind of get two or more 'soulmates' in life. The one we marry and have kids with…and then a whole seperate one that we actually grow old with. That's what I'm seeing around me anyway.

No. 640119

>>640115
Tell me about the divorces you’ve seen. Did you see them coming or what?

No. 640129

>>640119
Most came after the birth of the second child. That has been a theme, splitting up while the second child is a toddler, but being fine up until that second birth.

I'm childless and divorced though, I just think we married too young in my case.

No. 640133

>>639356
I have the same problem with my friends. Only a couple years ago all of us just wanted to have fun, had so many dreams, even wanted to live together etc and then they get a random guy, and boom, suddenly everything changes. And the way most girls immediately throw their entire being into the relationship, move together as early and quickly as possible, it feels as if that's all they've been waiting for. My former makeup loving, JB/Harry Styles fan friend is now watching american football because of her nearly 40 and already a father bf - I should be allowed to find this weird.
I also hate how many suddenly no longer have time for you, and then much later you find out it's because they were dating all along, please at least be honest.
Until last year I still had some single friends and even the ones who were in relationships still hung out with us, but now I'm the only one left without a bf. My first friend will by a mother next month and honestly I'm not ready for this. Thinking how childish she still acts (and looks) and then seeing her with a child of her own…I honestly don't want to.

I also know so many teens who already have serious relationships with longterm boyfriends who move in together long before me despite being much younger then me, I just don't get why everybody is rushing so much? We have good chances of living til 100 or more, so why think about starting your own family as soon as you're no longer a minor? Especially in first world countries people have the means to fully enjoy their youth/life, yet so many women don't live much differently than women many decades ago, who contrary to them didn't have a choice. "Women are allowed to be housewives and mothers!" - yes, but then why are so many middle aged people so unhappy? And why is it usually only the women giving up on her original dreams/plans?
I really wish I at least wouldn't live so far on the countryside, I think the situation in bigger cities is likely a lot better/easier for modern minded women.


Sorry for the long rant

No. 640137

>>640107
Recently I’ve seen posts on Reddit from MGTOW guys saying they’ve had vasectomies and they enjoy exposing the women who date them and try to baby trap. The one that led me down this rabbit hole made a post on r/childfree asking where the good child-free women are, while they have previous comments saying they’re not interested in serious relationships and just want sex flings. You act like trash and get the flies mate.

This might be a little off-topic but it definitely made me more wary about the ways single older men think

No. 640138

>>640133
You need to get some different friends. They just seem
Low quality to me imo

No. 640173

>>640133
>And why is it usually only the women giving up on her original dreams/plans?
Because men are more likely to pressure them due to societal expectations etc, and also because women tend to study and pursue what they enjoy rather than what makes money (sometimes well-paid industries become low-paid because a lot of women start joining, but that's a story for another time).

I live in the richest country in Europe and it's almost a stereotype here: husband works in IT, engineering or (if less educated) oil, wife is a part-time kindergarten/handicrafts/elementary school teacher or nurse and stays at home with the kids. When husband's company wants him to relocate, wife drops everything because she earns less and they move.

It really saddens me to see this (I work in IT myself so I see it a lot) but most men will see nothing wrong with this and think having your wife give up everything so you can pursue your dreams is perfectly normal and expected if you're married. Then eventually he gets bored of playing house and they divorce because his midlife crisis is hitting and he wants to bang young chicks just to prove to himself he can, also he suddenly wants to be a pilot.
Now mom has to support herself and kids on a kindergarten teacher salary.

No. 640189

>>640173
>I live in the richest country in Europe and it's almost a stereotype here: husband works in IT, engineering or (if less educated) oil, wife is a part-time kindergarten/handicrafts/elementary school teacher or nurse and stays at home with the kids. When husband's company wants him to relocate, wife drops everything because she earns less and they move.
Exactly the same.
What's even sadder for me is that I'm about to be an elementary school teacher (I just don't have any interests and I'm way too dumb for stuff like IT), and all the girls around me are doing this because it's one of the easiest jobs if you want family, but I don't want that… When I was 18 I thought I don't give af about money, I want free time and to enjoy life, but now I wish I had chosen a job that offers better pay, so that I could at least spoil myself. Plus, if I went for a different field, people might not annoy me so much to get myself a man, because I would be too busy and successful for that.

No. 640198

>>640173
>>640189
Norwegian? That reminds me of the well-known paradox that in ostensibly more egalitarian societies like Scandinavia it turns out that women still tend to be lower paid (by choosing jobs in lower paid "social" sectors) and choose to be housewives. Maybe it's in part due to living in a country with a good enough social security that you know even if you don't go for the highest-paying degree, or forgo career completely for homemaking, you won't end up living in squalor.

No. 640209

>>640198
Yes, it's the social security and the fact that men go for stressful, competitive fields in college like CS or finance (which are often also rife with misogyny) because they want to be the "alpha" and show off even if it's not a field they're very good at, while women tend to study humanities and art (because college is free/cheap and they like it) and then usually can't find jobs outside of childcare or social work (because they'd need a different degree for better paid jobs and also because men won't do these things).

No. 640271

>>640198
>>640209
It kind of comes across a bit as blaming girls for taking the "lazy" route. Statistics prove that boys are better in science while girls are better in stuff like languages, so you can't generalize and say that science is hard and the rest is easy.
The problem is that society values those things differently: people love shitting on jobs like teachers, while thinking it's justified that people in some tech company earn high wages, but shouldn't you pay the people whom you entrust you're children and their future well? Isn't that an even more important job?
My friend is studying IT and they're like 3 girls in 100 students, who would want to do that?
I also know many girls and women who studied their ass of while their men went to lower schools and in the end it's still her who ends up cutting back on work or staying at home, simply because that's what society tells you is normal.

No. 640281

>>640105
It's a thread that's a good start for breaking down the years of "hitting the wall" harmful ideological bullshit, while still letting everyone vent about the garbage expectations that have been foisted upon women that dare to not drop dead or end up baby factories after 25. I don't mind the contradiction because knowing that it's all bullshit doesn't mean that the pain still isn't there.

No. 640299

>>640271
>It kind of comes across a bit as blaming girls for taking the "lazy" route
No, this is not what I am saying and it's not the point. I'm saying the opposite, that girls are discouraged due to the demographic of some fields and value different things.

>Statistics prove that boys are better in science while girls are better in stuff like languages so you can't generalize and say that science is hard and the rest is easy.

This is an old myth. Girls do better than boys in both at school.
I also never said that one is hard and the other is easy, that is your own conclusion. "Stressful" doesn't mean hard, it means your peers are competing with you for a commission or a job you want, it means you might be harassed in the workplace if you're not a part of a boys' club, or your boss expects a lot from you without giving much in return. That is dumb and childish behavior, but it's how a lot of men function in some fields.

>people love shitting on jobs like teachers, while thinking it's justified that people in some tech company earn high wages, but shouldn't you pay the people whom you entrust you're children and their future well? Isn't that an even more important job?

I agree, you should, but I'm not shitting on teachers in the first place. I also mentioned here >>640173 "sometimes well-paid industries become low-paid because a lot of women start joining, but that's a story for another time". Nobody is attacking kindergarten teachers, it's the opposite.

>My friend is studying IT and they're like 3 girls in 100 students, who would want to do that?

Yes, which is also why fewer girls go into IT, not because they're lazy. See point one.

No. 640311

>>640271
>Statistics prove that boys are better in science while girls are better in stuff like languages

okay but recently there was a study that showed men who got shitty science/math scores were choosing STEM careers, where as women who got good grades in those areas were still not choosing STEM careers

>Researchers have found that the reason there are more undergraduate men than women majoring in physics, engineering and computer science is not because men are higher achievers. On the contrary, the scholars found that men with very low high-school GPAs in math and science and very low SAT math scores were choosing these math-intensive majors just as often as women with much higher math and science achievement.


https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/06/200618150239.htm

No. 640355

>>640311
Are men just the embodiment of Dunning-Kruger?

No. 640371

>>640355
Well since we now have equal opportunity and quantitative testing in schools, women are surpassing men kek. But now they whine about how school isn't 'designed for boys' anymore… Seems they forgot that back in the day students were physically beat. I guess men can only learn if it's under threat of physical punishment?

There's also that very funny study about how girls do better in girl only classrooms, but boys do worse in boys only classrooms.

No. 640377

>>640355
They are, and women are the polar opposite. It's crazy how much confidence/self perception affects our abilities. I can't remember the name of the book I read with the details of these studies, I might have the details wrong, but they found for example, if a woman knows she's competing with men in a test, she will perform worse than if she didn't know, if she hears negative comments about women in comparison to men prior to the test she will perform worse, etc.

No. 640380

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>>640311
But there's even less women in STEM fields than before. Why?

No. 640381

>>640311
I got in the top .5% of scores in the science portion of the ACT and I still didn't choose a stem major. I regret it but it was a long time ago. I just believed I wouldn't be able to handle it and I wouldn't belong in that field.

No. 640392


No. 640412

>>640380
Things are still pretty bad in these majors for women kek. I think the only difference now is that teachers and higher ups will do grrl power speeches and fall over themselves to get girls in but that makes it worse a little: now it is assumed you got in because you're a girl, not by ability. The bro culture is still the same, from what i see little girls are still not as encouraged to play with toys and do activities that encourage logical thinking as much as boys and there is still no reason to get into a field where things will be hard for you if there are plenty of other fields that pay well for smart women.

No. 640422

>>640412
Man this is so accurate. One of the female managers at my last job had a big “girl boss” poster and everything, but the culture there was still absolute trash for women. What a joke.

I’ve worked in a niche male dominated field for most of my adult life and it’s just a gigantic headache. Used to be able to put up with it when I was younger, now it feels like I can’t go a day without wanting to tell someone off.

No. 640436

>>640422
Oh damn, i was hoping these things would get easier with age/experience.

Thats the worst thing, you can't even tell them to fuck off or say anything because then you're the emotional female feminazi, but if you just take it no one respects you and the workplace gets even more hostile as they escalate the locker room talk and things like harassment. There really is no winning against a bad culture like this, if i wasn't dumb when it comes to chemistry i would change fields in a heartbeat.

No. 640480

>>640105
I'm personally not bothered by it, but I can't deny that expectations and perspective changes after the mid-20s.

No. 640521

>>640105
>special skincare and other shit
Admitting that life is different at 26-3? than it is at 18-25 years old is not that same thing as the wall being real kek. My life will be different when I'm in my 40s and 60s and 70s and 80s too, but that different doesn't have to mean bad and hopeless.

No. 640608

>>640380
As someone who dropped out of stem: Hostile males. Constantly. Everywhere. I aged like 9 years in 2 due to the stress. Men see that stem is the new boys club to make money in, and they really ramped up the gatekeeping. Constantaly stealing my ideas, doing a shit job in their group work, sabotaging me, refusing to cooperate and communicate, negging shit, changing plans at last minute so I have to redo my work, men bugging me during classes so I can't focus properly, profs and TAs taking side of men, you're a feminazi if you have any complaints, etc…

The just get a high paying job is a meme, as soon as women join the workforce the pay drops because higher ups men get bitter and don't want women to be financially independent.

No. 640616

>>640380
Might be different outside the US, but I don't feel like I get singled out for my gender doing my maths degree. Only weird part is being the only girl in class groups I guess. I also notice that the girls (including me) tend to befriend and stick with each other. The most frustrating part for me is feeling like I am not at the same level as my peers in terms of being tech-savvy and such, but that might be a state school/private school thing rather than gender. But it's nowhere near as unbalanced as engineering, it probably also helps that I don't have to participate in group projects or anything.

No. 640623

>>640105
Everyone starts to panic at 25 because they still believe in le wall meme. Once you pass 30 you realize that your life didn't end and you're still a real person. This thread exists because older farmers got tired of teenagers being retarded and wanted a space for themselves but even here the 23-year olds come to frantically cry about "I'm almost 30 and I haven't achieved anything and I'm turning old and ugly please reassure me I'll be okay" and I wish they stopped that shit.

>>640271
In my country girls outperform boys in maths AND linguistics in school but still choose to not pick STEM. It's 100% about girls not being encouraged to do so and them not receiving peer support. After years of working in STEM (computer science) it was the rockiest road to get my career going because I didn't have role models, connections of any gender representation and it was hard, but honestly I hope to inspire younger girls by being a success story and I've vowed to help out any female juniors out and shield them from abuse and exploitation if it killed me.

Also wanting to even out the gender gap in STEM doesn't mean anyone's belittling the importance of non-STEM fields or that girls shouldn't choose them. It's just about that STEM absolutely needs more women and they shouldn't be barred by social pressure or feeling that they're too inadequate.

>>640608
To be perfectly honest I've barely encountered this, the rare women I come across are extremely cool too. I don't live in the US and I'm ESL though so it might make a difference. I mean I can't say that the field is free of this bullshit because scrote brogrammers are cancerous and should be eradicated but having heard horror stories from other male-dominated fields (like sales, construction and the police force) I think it's a lot better at least over in my country.

No. 640625

>>640623
Mines an extreme example, while I'm in a relatively equal society I'm also ugly and poor, which probably made it worse. But the classmate bullshit is a big factor, in conclusion. I feel like degrees where you don't need much team work would be better.

No. 640644

>>640625
tbh I was in a non-STEM field and the few men we had were just as lazy and annoying and the girls were more responsible 100% of the time as long as they were over 18.

They knew how to talk their way out of doing work and leave girls to do the hard stuff, and then they'd just show up on the last day like clockwork and go "uhh… sorry I was absent, I had an accident/my grandma died again/I accidentally washed my cat in the washing machine and it shrunk, is there any work left for me to do? I can do the presentation :)".

No. 640647

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For my 26th birthday I've gifted myself with doctorate studies. I've applied, got in and next month will be starting my research in computer science field. Hopefully in 4 years time I'll be able to call myself a PhD.

Generally I feel that just now I've started to come into myself as a person and I'm feeling the best I've felt in a while. Both physically and mentally.

Im really looking forward to what life will offer, because now I've understood that we can achieve so much and are so much more than other people say we are.

Sorry for blog post, I usually just lurk, but I really wanted to share.

No. 640691

>>640616
It seems that math and physics can be more chill than comp sci or engineering when it comes to pushing women out from what ive heard, even the graph shows the gender balance closer to 50%.

Im guessing degrees in these fields will be seen as useless for the most toxic guys who go into tech for money and because of games so they gather into the other two.

>>640623
You are a good person anon, im sure you will help many other girls who feel singled out in the field succeed too.

>>640647
Congrats!! You can do it for sure, never doubt that youre capable

No. 641115

Gonna be 30 in a couple weeks. Don't care about romance, don't wanna get married, don't want kids. I like kids, but I'm not fit to be a mother, both physically and emotionally. I just want to live in introverted solitude with my cats and git gud at drawing. Got a ton of money saved up, gonna save up even more and then quit my shitty retail job, then live like a neet and focus on my art. I don't care if my life seems weird, I'm content.

No. 641149

>>641115
Anon, that's amazing! Unfortunately I have student loans in debt, but I'm saving as much as I can and simplifying my life to hopefully allow me to only work part time in the future so I can enjoy my free time more.

I hope you reach your goals and that you'll get a never-ending flow of inspiration for your drawings.

No. 641601

>>641149
Oof yeah student loans are a pain but you'll have it paid off before you know it.
And thanks, I'm so close to my goal I'm excited. Just gotta work and be patient a little longer.

No. 641604

>>641115

Anon I love this for you, and I’m on a similar path myself. Are you planning to basically retire super young? I’d love to do that but I won’t have enough saved for a long long time.

No. 641654

>>641604
Retiring young is my goal yeah. I've got enough saved up to live job free for at least several years, but I'm going to save even more. I'm debt free(mortgage and student loans paid off) and my only expenses are insurance, utilities, and my cats. Going to replant a garden and grow my own food to save more money. Tbf tho I'm such an introvert homebody its easy to save money. Drawing is like my only hobby too.
I hope you can reach your goal as well.

No. 641661

>>641115
>>641654
How do people manage to pay off a home mortgage, pay off student debt, and have enough leftover to save enough to retire young on a "shitty retail job"? How the actual literal shit fuckington????????

No. 641672

>>641661
And everything under 30 I’m shocked. Does your retail company hire?

No. 641693

>>641661
>>641672
tbf I used to work 3 jobs at once before I 'upgraded' to this one. And my shitty retail job pays higher than most and I save almost all of my paychecks. I have no kids, romance, or any real social life. I like it just fine but its not for everybody. I'm basically a hermit

No. 641695

>>641693
Okay but what do you do and how much are you paid lol?

No. 641709

>>641695
It's not hard to save up enough to retire by the time you hit 30s if You live at home with no Bill's or money hungry parents trying to suck you dry and have the maturity to understand you need to save at a young age

No. 641711

>>641709
…why can't the question just be answered? Sheesh.

No. 641715

>>641711
I'm not that anon but you can be working at McDonald's and save enough to retire

No. 641719

>>641715
Whatever you say bootstraps chan, sounds like a fiction to me.

No. 641722

>>641711
Here's the real answer: bank of daddy. Best safety net around. If you don't have one you can always let one adopt you. But you'll have to suck some dick

No. 641728

>>641719
If you live at home with your parents and have no Bill's why wouldnt you be able to?

No. 641744

>>641661
Living at home with no bills, plus free house labor from mom, so more free time and energy to network into nice jobs later on. Most millennials and zoomers getting houses can only do so because parents help pay. Tldr: be a leech on your parents.

No. 641747

>>641695
I just work as a cashier & make like 14 an hour. Not much tbh but the cost of living in my area isn't high either. I know it sounds crazy but I've been saving since I was literally in middle school(first job at age 14)

No. 641760

I just took a good look at my skin the other day and it looks like shit. I have the usual acne and blackheads but I think I’m starting to see age spots at 26. Or are those just regular blemishes? Idk what’s up

No. 641762

>>641760
The only people I've seen look aged at 26 are artificial tanning bimbos tbh, I doubt what you're seeing is anything other than regular blemishes.

No. 641763

>>641747
I wish i wouldve known this at 17. I was sold the meme that you need a career/college education to save up the big bucks but you can literally be making 12$ an hour and be living comfy by 28.

No. 641777

>>640105
Are you OK? We have a thread for it because it isn't real but we were led to believe it was.

No. 641779

>>640129
Huh, that's the same as the two divorces happening in my family. I wonder what's up with that… I'm not close enough to them to ask, maybe it has something to do with the male hitting a midlife crisis?

No. 641817

When did you guys get your first grey hair? I'm 25 and found a short one yesterday. Weirded me tf out

No. 641818

>>641817
I started getting grey hair at 16-17

No. 641826

>>641817
I'm nearly 29 and found a couple of white hairs in my bangs recently. I'm not mad about it because I had a self imposed rule that I would avoid dying my hair til it went grey (to save money, keep it healthy etc) and used it as an excuse to get it dyed kek.

No. 641837

>>641817
I got two grey hairs at 19, I have very dark hair so it might've just been more noticeable for me.

No. 641838

>>641817
At 26. It was an eyebrow hair too. Still there with a few grey friends. Lucky to be naturally blonde, can’t see white hairs for shit.

No. 641846

>>641817
Luckily I don't have a single white hair and hopefully I go after my mom who has very few white hairs at age 55. A friend of mine was already completely white by the age of 22 and it looks hella good on her, so don't worry about it.

No. 641886

>>641817
when i was in kindergarten.. i'm almost 30 and i have a lot of grey hairs now. i have very dark hair so it's pretty noticeable.

No. 642079

>>641817

I think I first noticed one at about five years ago at 27. Since covid really hit the fan I’ve developed a small but clear patch of grey at the front of my head that I’m considering growing out into a styled streak because fuck it.

No. 642199

>>641728
Because eventually you'll have to pay those bills…and unexpected emergency costs (medical, transportation, weather disaster).

No. 646981

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I'm gonna be 26 in 4 months and I feel so fucking old. When I was 23 people still assumed I'm 15-16, and now when I'm 25 people usually think I'm 22 I guess, because they don't ask for my ID anymore. Is it possible that high stress and shitty sleeping schedule aged me that quickly? I look sick and anemic, my skin is shit, my hair is shit. Other women my age look so radiant, I look like death

No. 646985

>>646981
>now when I'm 25 people usually think I'm 22
>I look sick and anemic, my skin is shit, my hair is shit. Other women my age look so radiant, I look like death
????? Please stop with the histrionics, christ.

No. 646994

>>646985
ntayrt but I'm so stupid I thought you meant history and did a double take for a solid 8 minutes.

No. 646996

>>646985
I'm not making this up, people told me I look sick, I don't know why and my blood tests are ok

No. 647003

>>646981
>Is it possible that high stress and shitty sleeping schedule aged me that quickly?
That's totally possible imo. I went through something similar when I was like 22-23 where it felt like I aged like 5 years in 3 months. I was suddenly very gaunt, my face was sunken in, and I developed laugh lines seemingly overnight. I was stressed as fuck and dealing with a chronic pain disorder. I also wasn't eating much, so I dropped a lot of weight and looked sickly and thin. Things got better for me and I look a lot better now at 29 than I did at 23 kek.

No. 647072

>>646981
>When I was 23 people still assumed I'm 15-16
>now I'm 25 people usually think I'm 22
This sort of age leap seems to happen a lot and imho it's just because society sorts people into child, teen, young adult and middle aged. Or in the case of women, jailbait, fair game and hitting the wall (Ew).
People are really bad at guessing specific ages, so instead of us steadily ageing at a year at a time we just get suddenly shifted to the next age group at random intervals. Also everyone I know quickly looked older during their first year in a job after leaving education, but then it settled down again.

On another note, calm down. Everything you're panicking about is what anons who are getting older always panic about in every vent thread. It's tiring as shit to see yet another twentyspomething say they feel so old

No. 663870

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No. 663888

>>663870
I’m only 26 but I already feel this, I LOVE this comic kek thank you for sharing. Excited for my 30s girls.

No. 667270

I turned 26 last month and I think this is the best I've ever felt lol.

Childhood and teen years sucked because I was a sperg and my home life was bad. Then I wasted my early 20s like, desperately trying to be extroverted and "nice" and feeling so insecure about everything all the time. I let so many people treat me like crap because I wanted them to like me.

But now I feel like I'm finally on solid ground. I'm dealing with my trauma stuff, getting back into my old hobbies and interests. I think something might have actually leveled out with my brain chemistry because my anxiety and shit started improving around 25. I don't care about any of the stuff that used to stress me out. I just wanna spend the rest of my life putting my own happiness first and being myself. I never even wanted the normie life I just felt like I wasn't allowed to go be a weird cat lady.

No. 667278

>>667270
im so happy for you anon! and things will only get better and better, putting your happiness first is a wonderful thing to do and it something that comes with age.

No. 669356

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>the draft being male-only ruled unconstitutional
>elites consider expanding it to women
>joe biden is considered president-elect
>tfw older than 25 and before any changes were made
I don't even care about the number.

No. 669369

>>669356
Biden is the progressive hero of this decade.

No. 669374

>>669369
Identifying as genderspecials instead of male or female was probably a good idea for zoomers after all. There might be salt either way though.

No. 670642

I'm 26,all my career plans have failed because of covid and even before that because of incredible bad luck, I invested too much time in a degree that doesnt bring me anything because of said bad luck, my personal life always sucked and covid cockblocked me right when I was starting to maybe have a relationship, I'm stuck with my insane family right now because of my career plans being shit and the housing market being a total mess, and many people I know from university or previous jobs who are my age have really nice jobs, bfs or husbands, live by themselves, and are generally living their best lives. Because of my looks a lot of people think I'm younger than I am so I don't even get respect unless I have to explain that I look younger than I actually am, and I barely have anything in common with my current coworkers. I feel like a failure at 26 and like my last chance to improve my situation is already gone and I'll achieve nothing.

No. 670962

>>670650
I do know that in theory things could get better but I'm just not seeing it. It's keeps getting worse and worse since like 2017 for me personally.

>no one's life is a perfect upward trajectory (unless maybe people who have wealthy and connected parents)

I do know way too many people like that but I have a younger sister who was just insanely lucky all her life and she also has insanely lucky friends so she thinks they're the norm and won't stop telling me the same thing.

>especially if your ambitious and looking to be promoted

I am ambitious, but given the job I have I think I'll just keep it until I can find better somewhere else. I heard about a vaccine being tested that has good results so far, I'm not going to be too hopeful but I hope this one will work.

No. 680831

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Was wondering if anyone else feels like this - in terms of love, I'm very happy to take my sweet time finding the person I'd call my life partner, and am not terribly anxious about aging hindering that (I luckily have the example of my parents, who didn't get married til they were both 35, and my cousin who got married in her 40s). But now that I'm in my late 20s, every couple of months, a friend, acquaintance, or even someone I knew from high school will announce their engagement. And then I get this weird pang of jealousy and maybe even anxiety.

I'm thinking it might be because I associate marriage with financial stability and an end to the "hustle", due to the double income. And yeah, sure, partly because I'm lonely and would like to meet someone I'd call a life partner. I'm still parsing what my feelings mean. But I wonder if anyone else is as wary of engagement announcements as I am, for reasons of their own?

No. 680842

>>680831
Kinda? I’m 26 so have a few years until I’m inundated with them. An acquaintance (1 year older) got engaged this year and I felt so fucking strange, so I kind of understand the confused feelings. It wasn’t traditional jealousy, but an odd feeling that I’d known her for years and our lives had correlated at times but now she was off on the next stage and I had no idea when or even if I would join her. It made me feel abnormal even though most of our peers aren’t yet engaged. I imagine that feeling is much more intense when it’s someone you’re close to.

Another part of it was that her shitty relationship had apparently completely recovered, whereas mine had failed. She was also getting something she really wanted (which made me jealous in the way that I wasn’t getting good experiences in general rather than re: engagement).

I never made much sense of my feelings because they broke it off within weeks so I got no further than that, anon. Just sounding off here.

I think you just have to keep in mind that you can’t force these things. It’s not like working at getting a promotion; you can’t get engaged through sheer effort. You could go on a hundred dates and still never click with anyone until you have a chance encounter. And sure it would be great to have more money and someone to cuddle at night, but relationships and marriage have issues too. The grass is always greener on the other side.

No. 680847

>>680831
I'm also late 20s and I don't get that feeling mainly because all the older couples I know lead boring lives and there's barely any romance left after a few years. A few of my acquaintances that got married early after high school also resulted just like that.
And being hit on by married men also makes you not want to tie yourself to anyone.
The only thing I do envy is financial stability but I wouldn't want to depend on anyone for that.
Like the other anon said, it's probably normal if you were close with someone and now they've reached this imaginary milestone that's perceived as a normal passage and part of life and you're going to feel left behind.
You have a healthy mindset so I know I'm preaching to the choir.

No. 680858

>>680842
>>680847
These are such thoughtful and interesting responses, thank you! Yes, I do think it’s got something to do with friends reaching “milestones”, and me feeling left behind. Your anecdotes are appreciated too.

No. 680875

>>680831
50 percent of marriages end up in divorce, anon. I used to feel jealous of my coworkers and friends getting married and engaged but so many of them broke up in the end that I don't care anymore.

No. 680894

>>680875
The older I get, the less jelly I am of literally anyone or their relationships. My life isn't even great at all, but I've seen a lot of my friends stick it out with shitty relationships for the sake of ~being with someone~ and it sounds like torture to me.

One of my friends is always bragging about her amazing boyfriend, but I know he's cheated on her before and still hasn't proposed after 8+ years. It's not worth it to care about anyone else's relationship. Be happy for other people, sure, but don't lose sleep thinking they got it all made.

No. 681877

So I love kids. But

I am at this annoying limbo between full sterilization no babies in this body adoption all the way

And I WANT TO GROE AND NUTIRE THIS BABY I WANT TO BE A MOTHER so yeah

No. 681878

>>681877
The typos were an issue with my browser loading but honestly it fits. Hormones make me feel like a pleb

No. 681879

I turned 26 last Saturday & I'm very happy to be a part of this wonderful group of ladies <3

No. 681922

>>681879
Happy birthday and welcome to the grown-up table anon, we have cookies and hard liquor

No. 682117

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Half a century old. The only depressing thing about getting older is seeing how people who were exciting/interesting/unconventional turn into mindnumbingly dull individuals when they hit their 30s.

Settling down with a partner and breeding really changes a person. Not that I have anything against that lifestly, but right up until my mid 40s, those old friends were telling me "it's not late" to spawn. Sometimes I wondered if they were so pissed off being parents they begrudged the fact I didn't have children or a husband and wanted me to experience their misery.

Now I have few female friends because I can't relate.

I still live for music and go to gigs (obviously not right now). I love being at the front being bashed and bruised by old punks because the whole gig thing is still a thrill I've never lost. It's always males who seem to not feel they have to conform to what a 40 something should behave like or look like.

When a couple of girl friends divorced they wanted to hang out with me again. I thought, sure. I'm still friends with one of them because her daughter's 19 so doesn't live at home. When we're together she livens up and she feels she can have some fun again like we did in our 20s, but it's difficult because she finds it hard to not have to conform.

Idk what I'm trying to say. Ofc I'm more jaded now, but if I'd lost the passions I had from early adulthood, I'd want to curl up and die.

When I've posted my age on lolcow some anons are all Omg, why are you posting here at your age. I don't get it…

No. 682470

>>682117
You sound awesome! May I ask how you ended up finding lolcow? I don't think it's embarrassing to post here, just curious since the user base does seem to skew young. I had myself sterilized a little while back, never had even the tiniest urge to be a mother either. It's tough to find childfree friends, becoming a parent is pushed on us so often as the ultimate feminine ideal and just "what you're supposed to do." I definitely think the brainwashing can run deep.

These may seem like stupid questions, but how did you find your passions and maintain them? I sometimes have difficulty giving myself permission to enjoy things as an adult. I feel like I should always be working or doing things for other people. When I end up engaging with something I like, afterwards I wonder what the point was. Like it was another short-term hit of dopamine but my life is ultimately pointless, so why bother? I know we have to come up with our own purposes in life and I have some issues with depression so that's probably playing into it. I'm just wondering what it feels like for you to fully allow yourself to enjoy something, especially when others tell you you're supposed to be enjoying life in a totally different way.

No. 682473

>>682117
It's an honour to be on your lawn

No. 682481

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>>682117
I am honored to read this, may your days in the farm be plentiful and sunny

No. 682498

>>682117
rock on gam gam

No. 682669

>>682117
ily anon! you are proof that women dont HAVE to conform to be happy and your life sound awesome! im on my 30's and childless/husbandless? kek. im tired of my boring ass friends trying to impose their lifestyle onto me and saying im gonna regret not "settling down" (barf!) half of them are already divorced and having to take care of their children all on their own cause scrotes are trash. they would always say "you dont understand cause you dont have children" implying im not mature enough or adult enough cause of that… no bitch! i think i won the maturity race by not conforming and breeding cause society told me to! anyways, this turned into a rant kek sorry.

No. 682780

>>682117
All the love to you lady, you honestly sound like my future. I'm 30 and already horrified of the thought of losing my female friends when they start raising families and being just a one time a year fun night out to them.

>Ofc I'm more jaded now, but if I'd lost the passions I had from early adulthood, I'd want to curl up and die.

Relatable. I've always resisted the thought of giving my whole identity up when I grow older.

No. 725006

>>682117
Please adopt me or become my friend

No. 767705

Im terrified of aging past 25, and I don’t have any girl friends irl. I wish I had a strong, beautiful friend in her 30s who could help guide me through this shit

No. 767712

>>767705
I'm 25 and I love it. What are you scared about? I could help

No. 767738

>>767705

I'm 29 nonnie. It's great. I somehow started gaining confidence after 25, and also being more in control of my life. I think you'll love it if you embrace it.

No. 767739

Maybe this is because I have a round face and a round face on a slim person usually means youth but.. I'm 32 and it's only lately that I feel like I'm being perceived as being a full on adult rather than that inbetween young adult stage. I honestly prefer it.

For years I got the sense that strangers were reading me as a few years behind my actual age and that weirdly took quite a toll on my confidence. The upside to people reading you as definitely over 25 (or whatever age it is that stresses you) is that you're generally treated as being more capable with age. People (mostly men ime) have a tendancy to think young women are ditsy and vapid and as sad as this is..I find you get treated as a little more human and multifaceted with age. Years of subtle condescension had sucked the self belief out of me. I'm sure everyones experience of that varies but I personally don't want to go back to early twenties womanhood for that reason.

No. 767753

>>767739
> For years I got the sense that strangers were reading me as a few years behind my actual age and that weirdly took quite a toll on my confidence.
I had the same experience. It left me feeling like a clueless minor among adults. As a kid I had to grow up fast because of my family situation, so being perceived as a kid among adults as an adult felt really weird. It’s lessened a lot in the past year, but obviously covid means I haven’t been interacting with many people. I’m curious to see if I’ve actually aged out of it.

No. 767762

>>767739
>>767753
If you want to be perceived as older and more serious, style is the key. People react very differently to you depending on what you're wearing. If you have a serious and elegant wardrobe they won't ever address you as a kid.
My language has a regular and polite "you", and depending on how I dress I will get called one or the other. If dressed casual I will get a casual you, if dressed professional I will get a polite you. Clothes are far more important than age when it comes to how people treat you.

No. 767809

How tf do you find friends in your late 20s? I just want some fun female friends who preferably don't want to have children.

No. 767833

>>767809
Bumble bff but make sure they are the type of women who dont care about relationships and babies.

No. 768805

>>767809
use MeetUp to find meet ups in your city. I found a local childree women's group in my city and they're hosting a socially distanced picnic at a park this weekend, for childfree single women.

No. 776091

I just turned 34 and I feel depressed af. I don't feel like I "fit in" as a adult for many reasons, my personality, communication style and style of dress is so child-like people regularly mistake me for 25-27 (I have a slavic/ethnically ambiguous babyface that further confuses americans, but my own people can immediately clock me). My life has been significantly influenced by several periods of destructive NEET/friendless Femceldom, BPD, crippling OCD/social anxiety, and depression, and I feel like I am kind of still stuck in my mid 20s lifewise, still "working out" things like career, money, relationships, going to shitty parties trying to network or meet new people ect. Since covid I feel like I've degraded because my social group got limited to only my closest friends, which is literally 4 people. I literally know people ten years younger than me who are fully independent, who regularly mistake me for their age. Its so humiliating, I have no idea how I can find a normal man since I can no longer use youth as an excuse for being a fuckup.

On the plus side I now have stable, long-terms relationships with a group of people who care about me, not BPD anymore and significantly less OCD and anxiety, and know who I am as a person and what I like and don't like, which I didn't have for basically my entire teens and 20s, so hopefully I will never be a true NEET or Femcel again. /sage for blogsperging.

No. 811006

to think i was freaking out over nasolobial folds and how i was supposedly going to expire at the ripe old age of 25. now i'm 28, comfortable with my body and myself, financially stable, living a scrote free life (i've discovered i'm only super interested in women) and it is so freeing.

No. 1042110

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HRH at 37 proves 'the wall' is scrote cope



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