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No. 478353

Im surprised almost no one in these circles have spoken about the deep rabbit-hole of wierdos on youtube that are autism-levels of obsessed with videos of monkeys and apes being hurt and abused. There are hundreds of channels and communities dedicated to the enjoyment of monkey abuse and the chucklefucks that write several paragraph long torture fantasy stories in the comments. Most users will also use their full real names as faces as their icons. And these communities linger really close to the surface because many videos about cute animals will get a suggestion from the algorithm along the lines of "mommy monkey hurts baby"

Some crazy shit.

No. 478357

I forgot all about this, why did you remind me

No. 478364

>>478353
It was covered already in a thread, although I can't remember which. Anons didn't want to talk about it much because it was so upsetting and there was not much anyone could say about it that was new.
I would normally say your OP is shit because it doesn't have any links or documentation but in this case the less that I see about it the better

No. 478367

This has already been discussed here. Search it up.
I see it getting discussed on different places from time to time. People just say "oh" and move on.
Even thought these users use their real name, facebook and faces.
Oh boy wait until you find out this people also have youtube lists of babies crying or getting scolded.
They are like babysitter nightmare fuel.

No. 478370

>>478367
Wait they do it to babies too?

This was discussed in some furry thread about the zoophiles or something

No. 479561

>>478353
I've never heard of this. Is it like actual monkeys, or stuffed animals? I think it would be very hard for most people to interact with a monkey.

No. 479600

>>479561
Actual monkeys

No. 479757

>>478364

I actually had no idea this was a thing but it isn’t surprising, more depressing. Why are people so cruel? Did their mothers not hug them enough or something? People baffle me.

No. 479816

The og thread:
>>>/snow/791123

No. 479871

>>479816
Didn't catch that short-lived thread until now so thanks for the awareness but what the fuck.
It's such a shame that there is just no real way to fix it.
Like.. I don't know besides some kind of vigilante online watch list that have these people doxxed for awareness with their location so people can look the fuck out for themselves and their children? And be publicly shamed as they should be. These people stay in their hugbox corners of the internet and delude themselves into thinking this is normal.

No. 480102

That's fucking vile. Some people should've exist.

No. 480598

there's a few reasonable explanations for this

1. it's pedos/general sadists who like how the monkeys appear human-like and they can project on them and pretend they're human

2. they're from countries such as india where monkeys are a genuine nuisance and will steal food, items, make a mess, even attack people without fear, so they feel no sympathy for these animals

No. 480876

>>479561
Depends on where you live, I think. It would be relatively easy for someone to get their hands on one in southeast Asia.

No. 480883

>>480598
Even in India, monkeys are annoying but they're not that bad. Especially not bad enough to warrant this bizarre Mickey Mouse bullshit.

No. 480889

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>>480598
>2. they're from countries such as india where monkeys are a genuine nuisance and will steal food, items, make a mess, even attack people without fear, so they feel no sympathy for these animals
This isn't likely. See pic related.

No. 480895

>>480889

It’s actually kind of morbidly fascinating that they’re potentially Anglo-American accounts. I’m the kind of person who always wants to understand the why’s behinds the hows, so I am wondering about our culture and our relationship to cruelty and violence. Plus the fact that they’re so open about their cruelty is also fascinating. It’s like they feel that they’re untouchable.

No. 480934

>>480598
I also think the uncanny valley has something to do with it. Monkeys look almost human which can cause revulsion just like "realistic" looking robots do.

No. 480943

I remember looking into this on /x/ I'm not convinced that it isn't bots mining?

No. 481027

>>480895
There are just a lot of really evil people in the world, a quick look at the history of war and genocide should tell you that.

No. 481036

>>481027
tbh war and genocide are much easier to make sense of than a group of people who somehow all have this exact same problem/fetish with baby monkeys being naughty and getting violently punished. Obviously violence is usually hard to understand but the monkey thing is just so bizarrely specific and everyone involved has the exact same reasoning and feelings, with similar online presence. Usually there's more variety in motive and MO amongst people with violent impulses.

No. 481098

>>481027

Well of course, but there’s more going on here like >>481036 said. It’s both disturbing and weird at the same time. It’s like people who are hyper focused on strange shit like certain colors or sounds and it causes them to have an existential crisis.

No. 481119

>>480934
I've never liked monkeys. When I was younger, I always thought it was weird when I saw other kids with "cute" cartoony monkey shirts or stuffed animals. The stories of people keeping them as pets is weird as hell to me.

But there's a difference between not liking something and writing torture porn/watching whatever the fuck these videos are. Why is it mostly baby monkeys? In >>480889 they compare it to hating bratty kids. Pretty sure you can hate bratty kids without wanting to torture them. These people are fucked and I hope authorities are watching.

No. 482043

Probably just some losers with a sick sense of humor finding enjoyment in cute things being hurt a la fluffy pony/yukkuri torture. I don't think it's as deep as being a pedo ring and other accusations I've seen.

No. 482376

>>482043
tbh i used to love fluffy shit out of the pure humor of it, like it's so ridiculously over the top and cruel i had to laugh. i know some people get off to it though.

No. 482383

>>482376
>>482043
You two are sick bastards

No. 482385

>>482383
What is it about this comment >>482043 that warrants the "sick bastard", anon?

No. 482396

youtube being a degenerate nest full of pedos and other deviants is nothing new.

No. 482400

How is this any different from people who hate and want to hurt cats?

No. 482402

>>482400
samefag. I went to the original thread and apparently these people are hurtcore pedophiles.
Disregard what i said.
These people are sick.

No. 482418

>>482376
me too but with the yukkuris, what's funny about it isn't the suffering it's the fact that some sick son of a bitch came up with an elaborate torture device for a stupid meme character and takes it entirely seriously

No. 482440

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Monkeys are not the easiest on the eyes, I will say that. I find much more physical beauty in a feline, bird, even a snake than most kinds of monkey. However their behaviour, pragmatism, problem solving abilities and the sheer vastness of each individual character and the way you can look into their eyes and almost see a distant reflection of yourself is fascinating and beautiful; and the love and dedication they have towards their babies and loved ones is admirable.

To be honest they are much higher life forms than the degenerates discussed here. Sorry for the extensive monkey sperging, I got the feels from this topic big time.

No. 482450

Monkeys and apes are probably one of my least favorite animals of all time because I find them ugly and obnoxious but I would never wish physical harm on them, what the fuck is wrong with people

No. 482599

not getting all the monkey distaste from you weirdos. monkeys are so clearly beautiful and so obviously intelligent. these sickos need to be exiled.

No. 482709

Humans who get "annoyed" with how an animal looks to the point where they wish or do physical harm to them scare me. I feel like they're the same kind of people who would hurt human toddlers if they were "annoying" enough and could get away with no consequences.
Plenty of things annoy me, but it takes a huge lack of empathy to hurt or kill someone else because of the minor inconvenience they cause. Can you imagine being killed because someone thought the way you laugh is annoying, or that you look funny when you eat?

Poor monkeys. I can't understand how someone can look at the life in their eyes and the similarity they share between us, and not see a world dying when they're suffering and being killed.
It takes someone pretty sick or severely lacking awareness.

No. 482726

>>482709
They're obsessed with appearance and only stan beautiful animals like horses and wolves, because they don't see past the surface or appreciate "imperfect" traits. Attractive = good and pure. Monkeys aren't traditionally graceful animals so they deserve to die. These are the same people that would be rude and dismissive toward an ugly person without even thinking about them being human

No. 482737

>>482726
iirc charity dedicated to endangered ugly animals are severely underfunded while something for cute animals, thinks pandas, get a lot more money

No. 482742

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>>478353
Probably most of you here have heard of Harry Harlow ? He's gotta be the most famous monkey torturer in history, heres a quote from his Wikipedia page;

“The only thing I care about is whether a monkey will turn out a property I can publish. I don't have any love for them. Never have. I don't really like animals. I despise cats. I hate dogs. How could you like monkeys?”

If you’re interested and don’t mind being traumatised then I suggest looking him up, he did disgusting psychological experiments on monkeys. I’ve seen these sickos praise him and mention his research before.

No. 482751

And this…

https://investigations.peta.org/nih-baby-monkey-experiments/

This is some of the darkest shit I’ve ever read in my life. They say that this kind of stuff is STILL going on. I feel so much pain and fear for them, they’re deliberately making them mentally unstable via isolation and then further traumatising them for research they don’t even need to do.

I know it’s kind of unrelated, but i feel like this is a big portion of the content they share with each other, a lot of it would just be removed on sight if posted to YouTube because it’s terrifying for most people to watch.

No. 482754

>>480889
I really hope these people are put on some watchlist. A non-trivial % of them will murder someone, given the chance.

No. 482783

I doubt most people care. People buy things tested on animals, eat animals just as intelligent as monkeys and there's a huge thread here dedicated to hating dogs.

Why would they give a shit about baby monkeys?

No. 482788

>>482783
Plus the information from his research is still used to this day and taught as relevant in university unlike Freud, for example. I’m all for animal testing and research.

No. 482791

>>482783
>There's a huge thread dedicated to hating dogs
No one spergs about killing or torturing them though.
>why do you care about baby monkeys?
Because it seems especially heinous to throw beings with the equivalent sentience of toddlers into "pits of despair" to psychologically fuck with them, specifically the part where they admit these monkeys can never be ammended.
Ethical experiments are a part of life, however stuff like that is too far.

This Harry guy wasn't very smart. He flunked out of an English degree if that tells you anything.

>>482788
>Plus the information from his research is still used to this day and taught as relevant in university
The articles say otherwise.

No. 482807

>>482751
Harry used to call female monkeys "little bitches", if that tells you anything about his mindset. Sick.

No. 482813

>>482791
The articles say otherwise
The article doesn’t say that Harlow’s experiments were actually useful at the time, in the sense that they helped prove that maternal love and attachment is more important to an infant’s development than fulfilling its basic needs like feeding. While the general scientific consensus in the 50s (and pretty much for the whole first half of the century) was that showing affection was actually detrimental for the baby, believe it or not. The article does say that this kind of experiments are being continued to this day, which I do agree shouldn’t be happening, because the mother-child bond is already pretty well understood.

Harlow was a cruel asshole, but you sort of have to give him credit for being one of the first that tried to scientifically explore the idea of love. His later, most unhinged experiments (the pit of despair one) were focused on depression and probably stemmed from Harlow losing his mind from his own depression caused by the death of his wife and electroshock therapy.
Not really relevant to lump him in with youtube monkey haters, is what I’m trying to say, as he wasn’t motivated by hatred of monkeys but the fact that their brains are close to humans.

>inb4 being called a monkey hater myself

No. 482818

>>482813
He had a very hateful attitude towards his test subjects which happened to be monkeys, that's why someone posted him here.

No. 482822

>>482818
Sure. Still, that most likely had to do with him being a mean fuck in general, not having something against monkeys in particular, like the people discussed here. Like some anon said above, he disliked all animals.

No. 482828

>>482822
He's known for his especially cruel experiments on monkeys. It's really as simple as that.

No. 482839

>>482783

People do care, but realistically, can any of us really stop any of the evil things that happen in the world? For most of us, the most we can do for these animals is talking about them and showing them this small sense of compassion that others don't. It's not like we can storm into research labs and snatch away monkeys, or stop cattle farming, or force people to use 100% vegan everything. And most of us don't do it deliberately, like we gleefully are eating tortured meat or slathering ourselves in lotions having orgasms at the thought some rabbit probably had to swallow it at some point.

No. 482854

>>482828
Yes, like dozens of other researches. At this point we might as well include silver spring monkeys, the baboons from the university of Pennsylvania and Britches the monkey (don’t google any of this if you don’t want to ruin your day btw) and turn this into an anti animal experimentation thread. But that’s not necessarily the same topic as some weirdos, seemingly endemic to youtube, who get off on watching videos of baby monkeys being hurt.

No. 482966

>>478353
>>482854
I brought him up because I think there’s something deeply instinctive with regards to a sadistic enjoyment of monkey abuse, I think it goes a lot deeper than just a handful of nutcases on YouTube. I believe HH continued the experimenting for far longer than necessary out of enjoyment, he lost his mind after his wife died and the full extent of his monkey focused sadism came to the surface. I’m interested in the possibility that all these monkey haters share similar traits to HH. His experiments meant something at first but they became more than just a means to an end, they became totally unnecessary torture sessions that wasted time and money. Also I saw one of those sickos say that the HH macaques and the “mentally unstable lab animals” make for the best content which just further upsets me, the fact that they get broken down mentally before being physically tortured, it’s just absolutely dgenerate, it’s a million time’s crueler than outright killing them for bushmeat and it simply doesn’t make sense, unlike the usual lab testing & farming issues which yes are cruel but aren’t motivated by only sadism. That’s why HH is relevant and not MAC cosmetics

No. 482971

>>482966
We have so much better means for research and experiment than animals. i never understood why it was okay or acceptable. makes me so angry

No. 482991

>>482839
You can do something about it and it's quite simple. Stop supporting companies that are responsible for doing evil.
Don't approve of animal testing?
Buy products that aren't tested on animals
Don't approve of factory farming?
Stop eating in fast food chains and buying cheap meat at the supermarket

If people made a few simple changes industries founded on cruelty to animals would be less profitable and less likely to exist.



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