/ot/ - off-topic

So I grew up in an awful home, which means I've learned how to manipulate people very well. I don't think I've done anything that bad. I mostly use it in professional settings in order to get what I want. Like a raise, promotion ect. I've kept up personas for over a decade. It's kinda scary how well I lie. But it's the only benefit of growing up in an abusive household.

When I was 10 years younger I had this friend in our same group who meant the world to me. She always tried to make me feel guilty for everything but I thought it was because she cared about me.
Then I found out years later that she was actually just jealous about my life. If I start to remember, it was so clear from the start. She was always talking about boys who didn’t gave a shit about her, while I had always someone confessing to me.
I was the best in classes she took before me and even some friends came to me to talk instead of her.
I didn’t do anything on purpose and that’s why I always caved in and felt guilty, I believed her when she told me my tests were way easier than hers, when she told me boys saw me as an easy girl, even when she told me my other friends were lying to me and searching for my advice because they knew her would not believe them.
After years of feeling like nothing compared to her, of being depressed and feeling lost in this world, I found out that she was talking shit about me behind my back. Keep in your mind that we weren’t teenagers anymore but she still did the same things she did back then. I felt betrayed, hurt and terribly disappointed. This girl made me almost believe she was a saviour and she was making me a favour being my friend, when actually all she did was to try to change my life for her benefit. She always complained about me wanting to be the victim when I told her I felt paranoid that nobody liked me and she was reinforcing this feeling lying about me to other people.
So when I found out, I decided to play my cards right. As you can tell, I was extremely dumb back then, which made me be seen as a harmless, kind and good person.
I didn’t talk shit like she did to me with other friends, I just told them the vibes she gave me and how worried I was because I love her and I care about her. When they asked me why I was feeling like this, I lied and told them that I knew she told a friend of hers (who we don’t know) everything.
I have friends who aren’t mutual to our other friends following her social media so when they see something they ask me if everything’a alright and I CAN play the victim card saying I didn’t expect it from her. Then I go to our mutual friends because I need to vent and not feel “hurt”.
Nowadays, everyone sees her as a poor excuse of a friend, childish, immature and of course jealous of me. Nobody tries to defend her and they wonder how she can treat a person like me like she treats me.
So I guess I could say I was manipulated and I’m manipulating people to see the truth which I only had to see back then.

Manipulated my friend when I was like 12 into trading my shitty regular ds for her ds lite. All I did was talk it up and I said some dumb shit about how my screen was lighter so it's easier to play outside and see the screen in the sun. Then we swapped right away. Obviously I don't regret it nobody care about the regular ds

Mastermind.

>>433777
I wish her parents found out, kicked your ass and made you swap back.

>>433816
Fuck you, nigga. She was rich and im from the projects. They couldve easily bought her yuppie ass another

>>433834
Yeah, you were so poor you had a Nintendo DS in the first place.

You cheated a person you claimed to be a friend for your own material gain and yet you are the victim? I hope you are trolling.

If they were so rich you should have asked them to buy you a Nintendo DS lite for a birthday lmfao. That would still be less cunty of you then manipulating your 'friend' like this.

>>433837
Yeah a crusty used one from the garage sale. It was a middle school friend, why are you so triggered bitch lmao

I am very easily "manipulated" because my brain is shit, my self-esteem is bad and I put other people's need in front of mine and that in turn makes it easy for them to take advantage of me. It's OK, I realize that this just is how the things are, and I guess I get some level of satisfaction out of it too, makes me feel useful.

But ONE thing that annoys me to no end is people thinking that they are some sly evil sociopath mastermind manipulators because of this and like I have no idea this is happening. There's no fucking reason to get cocky over making a doormat of a person do stuff for you it's the easiest thing on earth.

>>433843
Not 'triggered', just believe that you did a shitty thing and there is nothing to brag about.

The better question is why are you so proud of cheating a middle schooler? Are you glad you managed to stick it to the man? Lmfao

>>433872
Tf u talkin bout. I never said I was proud or a victim like u keep tryna say i said, just had no regrets. This aint the moral thread u dumb hoe, does my post remind u of something personal or something bc aint nobody care but u. If u wanna play by your moral nigga rules, then why u blamin a literal 12 year old? I was only a kid. Fix ur logic

Sorry I wasnt rich lmfao. Ima play my ds lite rn just to spite your lightskin ass

>>433879
ntayrt. You sound very uneducated when you type like that. You are being a caricature.

>>433887
Its just shorter. Who cares

Not sure if it counts as manipulation, but when I'm messaging anybody I don't already have blackmail material on (mutually assured destruction is a very good thing), I always act under the assumption that the things I say will be screencapped, publicly shared and/or accidentally seen at some point, or that I'll eventually have to go back and screencap the conversation myself.
Because of this, I pick my wording very carefully so that I'll come out looking as clean as possible (even if I'm in the wrong) if anything ever happens. This has worked out pretty well for me.
I've contemplated going back and deleting/editing old messages where I didn't put this into practice, but I'm worried that might set off warning bells if the people in question decide to look through our DM history.

>>433879
>Tf u talkin bout. I never said I was proud or a victim like u keep tryna say i said, just had no regrets

Most people are capable of looking back on their childhood and be like 'okay, I was a kid back then, but that was kind of a shitty thing to do'.
Have fun with your swindled DS Lite while I play on a Switch that I bought with my own hard earned money. If you are for real at all.

>>433887
I really hope that this anon is trolling because it's such a bad look for black women. I refuse to believe this is a real one and not some retarded troll.

>>433910
Have fun being a womanchild on your Switch. Only a loser would get this mad over a console. You act like I robbed the bitch and I'm not a troll.

>>433910
>it's such a bad look for black women
It's so dumb that we'd have to worry about this kind of thing at all, though, lmao.
One black anon who's kind of shitty shouldn't reflect on me or others browsing in the least, so please, let's not go down that route.

>>433918
Yeah, anon is def racist for thinking that I represent all black women when I clearly said I came from a shitty area. Has nothing to do with my story.

>>433910
mmm this comment stinks of racism

>>433937
She's also classist so no surprise. Retarded getting upset over video games for kids to begin with.

This is hard to explain without sounding like a narc sociopath "ur all peasants UwU" but I think inadvertent manipulation is just a thing in day to day life. You can just validate someone's feelings or be sweet to them and now those actions made them like you and maybe even trust you or want to repay you. And now you have a leverage over someone because you were good to them.

Same if someone is nice to you and now you feel you owe it to them to be friendly or listen to them talk. Now you're levered. But obviously if either one of you uses that to use you or abuse you or take from you, then they become a "real" manipulator.

I dont really like thinking this way but I cant help but notice extroverted, hyper-sweet people get treated a lot better than me when I feel quiet or shy or visibly anxious when socializing. And from the outside, it looks really manipulative of them. Kinda like a teacher's pet scenario?

>>433937
>>433946
Holy shit when will these summerfags fuck off back to Twitter.

>>433777
>>433834
>>433843
>>433879
The amount of underage hoodrat 2edgyness here. I sincerely hope you're a robot crapping out a shitty bait turd here.

>>433904
i do the exact same thing, anon. i was manipulated and gaslit for most of my life by friends and have had people spread false rumors about me, so for a while ive always been incredibly clean in my messages. i always type out things assuming 100% they'll be screencaped or read out loud to someone else. i never act mean even during arguments, i never insult anyone directly or talk shit about them with others i know, and if i do talk about them i talk about objective facts or how i personally feel regarding a situation (again, never insulting or shittalking). i word my stuff carefully so that no one can accuse me of something untrue based on the amiguity of my words, and whenever i have a fight with someone i backup as much of our chat history as possible so nothing can be taken out of context. i also consciously make the decision to be as kind and helpful as i can to as many people as possible, bc it helps me feel like if im nice to people and make the effort to listen to and understand or help others then they wont have any reason to believe any bad stuff they hear about me.

i know im a lunatic for this, or so i feel, but for so long ive been manipulated, gaslit into thinking i did or said or am things i am not or did not say/do that i just can't trust anyone anymore. the only people i trust are years-long close friends & my SO. this is my only way of protecting myself from shitty people.

>>433957
How is it edgy? The mastermind comment was obvious sarcasm and like I said, I never said i was proud of what I did. It's the manipulation thread all i did was share a story.

>>433957
Her posts read like that one on /snow/, Lilli Jean's mom's black sockpuppet account, Shaniqua. Like a racist pretending to be black. I think it's a troll.

>>433957
I saw this thread before it had any replies and hoped it got ignored because it just REEKS of underaged edgelord nonsense. I'm embarrassed for OP and everyone who answered since only people with an unwarranted sense of superiority and a desperate desire to be a cool, intelligent, dark triad sociopath would put so much thought into their 'manipulative schemes'.

>>433986
>not wanting to read organic, fresh, edgelord cringe

Have a little fun, anon, and just laugh at all the weird stuff people post.