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No. 405578

ITT:We discuss both FTM and MTF athletes in sports both amateur and professional

No. 405584


No. 405585

The libfem crying over Caster Semenya makes me laugh. This is what you guys wanted! You didn't want women's sports to be open to "AFAB" people only, you wanted it to be open to everyone and judged by testosterone levels. And now it's backfired on intersex women, just like radfems always said it would.

But libfems can't walk it back without admitting that males shouldn't be in women's sports, so they're stuck. And they know it.

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No. 405603

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No. 405607

>>405603
Most people in the thread agreed that it was unreasonable for the TIF to compete and expect to do well compared to males, but there were a lot of TiMs saying how weak they became when they started taking their titty skittles and they couldn't even open a pickle jar anymore!!!

No. 405608

>>405603
Love how redditors upboated this because its about a TiF, but if it was about a TiM they'd be up in arms. Fucking god I hate faggot ass tranny loving redditors so much. Saged for autism

No. 405610

>>405588
This analogy isn't valid. The reason why Caster is subject to regulation is because they can be classified as male. They have MALE anatomy that gives them an edge. We have male and female sports for these differences. Females lack testes so they develop differently than men.

It's very dishonest IMO that so many articles overlook this fact:

"According to reports in the Australian media, the medical tests have established that she has no womb or ovaries and that she also has internal testes – the male sexual organs responsible for producing testosterone.

Earlier analysis had revealed that Semenya's testosterone levels were three times the normal level for a woman."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/athletics/6170229/Caster-Semenya-is-a-hermaphrodite-tests-show.html

I'm also tired people saying this is racial. If this were a white 'woman' with male characteristics, people would feel the same. Women are put in a separate category because they lack testes and the hormonal advantages that males have developmentally. To ignore this would mean we need to abolish men and women's competitions and have everything be co-ed.

It sucks for Caster but sports have rules. Castor's inclusion would be unfair for women's sports. Sometimes the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. They can still compete as a male, along with the other competitors who have experienced male development. Or they can abide by the rules set for the women's division.

No. 405612

>>405608
Seriously why do trans people get so much support and attention from Reddit? It's filled with their shit.

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I was under the impression that Caster Semenya was female with high testosterone but apparently that's not the case? This whole thing is so confusing. I feel sorry for Caster but at the same time I believe that anyone with a Y chromosome aka males should never have been allowed to take part in female sports or change their legal sex to female.

No. 405629

>>405627
Caster has AIS (Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome). This means she's XY and would have been male, but disordered sex development means that despite her body producing testosterone, it did not develop as a normal male's does. She has undescended testes, no ovaries and no uterus.

No. 405640

>>405629
idk if other anons agree with me, but under these conditions i wouldnt mind if she identified as a woman, considering thats what she grew up as, and its not her fault that she was born with this condition.

however, i dont believe she should be allowed to compete in sports, especially not against women, because she has ridiculous natural anatomical and hormonal advantages over the others, its basically the equivalent to a normal woman taking steroids which isnt and shouldnt be allowed.

No. 405649

>>405640
The main thing I want is for troons to admit this is their fault. The reason she's being penalized so harshly is because if the ruling bodies say all female-identified XY people are allowed to compete without any sort of hormone reduction, then it will apply to regular males, not just intersex people. Troons caused this situation, it's time for them to take responsibility for what they've done.

No. 405680

>>405649
>>405649
Troons are only upset and screeching because they know this will impact them. Otherwise we know they could give a shit less about women.

No. 405880

>>405607
Especially the lactate one



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