/ot/ - off-topic

>>367651

Most of those forums only give a shit about K-Pop and nothing really interesting happens there

This thread is going to attract so many crazies.

>>367650
are they incentivised by a place on the secret space program to escape earth or blackmailed with threats of death to their loved ones ?

I read this conspiracy theory once that said that britney spears was working for the bush administration, every time there was a scandal in the bush administration britney always created a scandal around the same time to take attention away.

Celebs and their teams are run by the CIA. Celebrities teach the gen pop how to act and what to aspire to be and want. I think they get good drugs and/or heavy shock treatments to keep them complacent. This is why Hollyweird loves it some child stars. Little minds to be molded. And raped. The butterfly symbolism is interesting. It's not too far off to imagine the rich and powerful people pump and dump some of these celebs and then they are drugged to go off the deep end. See: Anna Nicole, Marilyn Monroe, Judy Garland, Britney, Mariah.
Tinfoil tho. But I think there's something there. Those damn nazi squazis.

>>367759
what does the image have to do with the topic?

>>367764
Ariana Grande is literally Hitler

>>367754
I thought it was because her programming was breaking down and her wranglers (handlers) weren’t fast enough to reprogram her? I wonder what dubya did back in 2007…

>>367759
There’s an urban legend that Dr. Mengele was helping with the project which is why he was never captured, he went by “Dr. Green”

>>367764
I think that Nazi scientists are those who developed and implemented MK ULTRA in the USA through the CIA in which celebrities are manipulated and controlled in order to do the same to the general population. I probably should have been more clear lol

>>367856
>>367900
As a german, I've never heard of any of them going to the US. Why would they? That's way too risky.
It's rather well known that everybody who was rich enough went to one of the "ABC states" - Argentina, Brazil, Chile. And rumours say that they then "helped out" more primitive dictators in those countries, e.g. teaching them how to torture "properly".

>>367937
They’ve imported the Japanese and they’ve done worse, so why not the Germans?

Maybe this is just a U.S conspiracy shrugs

I don't know if anyone has ever thought this…I even googled conspiracy theories and couldn't find any. I was thinking that Ariana Grande is a secret operative of ISIS. The fact she said 'I hate America, I hate Americans' in that donut licking video and then there's the whole nail bomb incident that happened at her concert. It's silly but I had almost an Alex Jones style epiphany one day.
Even if it's not true, she seems like a real bitch.

>>367937
Have Germans chilled out a bit since then? Every German I've met (which is like 3 people) seems nice and quiet, its so hard to believe the holocaust ever happened and as a Jewish person I avoid reading or thinking about it even.

>>368335
She was probably high

>>368338
No, we're still the same.

>>368338

There is such a taboo about nazism, and the amount of Jewish people so low a lot of people will freak out and be extremely nice to any Jewish people they met by default. Obviously there are excepts (white nationalism people, old people waiting to die who dgaf). I would say there is still a cultural bend towards “organization” and “eliminating deficiencies” but it’s not nesscary to be a bad thing- Scandinavian cultures also have this and they’ve never tried to ethnically cleanse. One thing people forgot is nazi era German has an expansionism mentality, where certain people are deemed better/worst then others. Obviously they aren’t interesting in expanding their borders now. /sage for ot

>>368335
I think she had a mind-glitch tbh, not as bad as Britney, et al. but still a glitch.

>>368335
Idk about her being ISIS but she sure was remorseful for that bombing. Of course taking the tinfoil hat off that'a completely understandable but in my conspiracy-riddled mind I feel like she had to be a part of it to move up the ladder. Then she did that performance with Satan's fucking mistress Madonna (the diaper butt video) which is always super sketchy imo. Madonna is bad news.

Lana gets nervous and fidgety when she talks about the sexual abuse in the music industry, her “I stand with teh wimminz #metoo” bravado got shut down fast.

The video seems to be edited according to some of the comments

>>368369
A lot of people died during the summer solstice (sacrifice/season), didn’t the bombing happened before it?

>>368379
She confirmed the song Cola is about Harvey Weinstein so I'm sure she's toeing the line between uwu girl power feminism and literally fucking old perverts for the ""glamour"" and power.

From Cola:
I pledge allegiance to my dad
For teaching me everything he knows
Harvey's in the sky with diamonds
And it's making me crazy
All he wants to do is party with his pretty baby, yeah

For fucks' sake

>>368431
Additionally, I remind you that Pretty Baby was a film in which 11-year-old Brooke Shields plays a child prostitute. There are full-frontal nudes of Brooke as promotional material. Pic is mild, but I'm still gonna spoiler it. Fuck LDR

>>368383
She seems like she’s not really there and tired af in those pictures.

Harvey was “partying” indeed

>>368431
She also has a lot of DDLG songs that were leaked. I wonder if it was more than “muh artistic integrity!!!!” she was freaking out over. Gotta go with the agenda if you want mega-clout!

>>368433
but what about the blondie song that really is about brooke shields
?

>>368522
What about it?

I feel like LDR's narratives are more nuanced than just ddlg propaganda, she talks about the highs and the lows. She draws on stereotypes and uses unreliable narratives eg as she's gotten older she writes less lolita frolics and more about how the world chews up young girls and spits them out when they get old. Maybe I'm just an edgelord stan but I defend her work as much as anyone who creates something about uncomfortable situations, and many mainstream musicians do.
>>368431
>>368427
She retired that song and came clean about why, it's not some pizzagate conspiracy
> Del Rey wrote the song with a Harvey Weinstein-type player in mind, a “diamond-bestowing-upon-starlets” guy with power. “I thought it was funny at the time, and I obviously find it really sad now,”.

>>368528
you're right, but this is a conspiracy thread, nuance doesn't exist here.

>>368528
You’re an edgelord stan.

I’m also a fan but rose-tinted glasses aren’t allowed here, so please take them off if you wanna stay.

>>368353
>Have Germans chilled out a bit since then?
Such a question wouldn't have been deserving of an answer, much less of one as long and thought-through as yours.
If you believe that all Germans in 2019 behave the same as criminals during the war 80 years ago, then you're a braindead retard.

>>367937
They didn't just "go", they were imported/recruited purposefully by US Gov. Soviets did the same thing.

>>367900
Do you know where to read about those connections? I've heard some of the Nazi occultists experimented in trauma based mind control. I honestly speculate the study of these methods were detailed in the MKULTRA documents which were destroyed before they were declassified. But I need some solid sources on some of this stuff because it sounds so schizo

>>368528
Lana's there to make the whole world fucking depressed and to glamorise drug use and apathetic surrender.

She totally sold her soul out of frustration after Gaga got famous

>>368790
What are the benefits of trauma based mind control? Submission?

>>368805
you can break the mind quite easily, i.e., solitary confinement is a very effective and time-tested method. the defensive mechanisms your brain undergoes to protect itself is a “forcible forgetting,” which usually means lapsing into dissociative states — states in which one is privy to suggestion, if you feel me. it’s especially effective in children for obvious and terrible reasons.

>>368819
What would the nazi's hope to achieve by this?

>>368790
I believe this is what you’re looking for?

https://vigilantcitizen.com/hidden-knowledge/origins-and-techniques-of-monarch-mind-control/

Yes, I know it’s a vc article but there are (some) sources in it.

>>368823
To create the “perfect soldier” a la Manchurian candidate

>>368827
So they just want to play war games in South America? Whatever happened to greater Germany?

>>368805
Supposedly the trauma creates split personalities that can be influenced individually.

I used to think Poppy was tryhard illuminati wannabe drivel, but since she blew up, I can definitely see that she's a puppet.

you guys are maximum cringe.

>>368853
Why, anon? Do you have anything constructive to say besides "oh fuck, cringe"? Why don't you look at another thread if it bothers you so much?

A lot of people who look into stuff like this are aware of the lines between fantasy and reality, speculation and documented history, etc. I haven't seen any indication that anyone in this thread has gone off the deep end. More often than not people like you are willfully ignorant of reality anyway.

"MONARCH mind control is real and widespread and major celebrities are victims" is likely not 100% congruent with objective reality. But neither is your world, where none dare speak the word "conspiracy", there's no such thing as mind control, and governments don't engage in psychological operations on the public. Retard.

>>368828
Saged for sort of OT and all that. Generally, the conspiracy crowd acknowledge the reality that the power elite in the west (European royal families, wealthy industrialists, etc) were not particularly opposed to Hitlerian National Socialism, and actively supported Germany up until the war, and in some cases even through the beginning of the war (See Sutton for more info). After the war, German scientists were imported into the west to work for the military industrial complex (See Op. Paperclip) and support US/NATO Hegemony against the Soviets. Of course the Soviets did a lot of the same things, it is just less documented.

As far as "Greater Germany", a lot of conspiracy theorists believe that the EU fits the description of what the Nazis said the "Fourth Reich" would be. There are some interesting connections with the EU and formerly Nazi sympathizing royal families as well.

Just explaining for what it's worth

>>368528
She "retired" the song bc Harvey landed in boiling hot water. How does this make it okay in the first place? I read somehwhere that very wealthy people have empathy bred out of them as generations pass and they rely less on others and get more detached from the rest of the world. I honestly believe it. I have no sympathy for this agenda-pushing wealthy bitch or any of her ilk.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-wealth-reduces-compassion/

>>368805
Yes to those you listed, also I believe it may be a vehicle for checks and balances to keep powerful people in line via blackmail.
The victims are tortured relentlessly (this is obv where the TRAUMA come in). I would imagine it's part of a fucked up form of entertainment, as well as a serious program(ming?).
We've all heard of mansion parties where shit is going down in every room. Did you ever really think of what kind of weird shit people get into? After the run-of-the-mill sexual deviance? What's next?
Put on your tall tinfoil hats and imagine, if you can, that you've travelled to every corner of the world, eaten every delicacy imaginable; drugs are boring to you now bc you've had access to the best shit since forever (literally multi-generational amounts of time), you have no empathy bc you were raised by a wait staff and your real family is dysfunctional as all hell bc they're just as bored and detatched as you are. And of course! You're a piece of shit who's hungry, no, desperate, for more. What's next? What can possibly get your heart racing again after you've been spoiled with the best of the best served to you on a silver platter by people you actually consider lesser than you? I don't have a hard time imagining bad people start to dabble in very bad things to get their jollies off, to join an upper echelon, and prove your secrecy by performing Very Bad Acts, or just as a curiosity. Boom, now all the other wealthy freaks know what fucked up shit you've done bc they've done it too.
There are businesses and fortunes, and most of all power, on the line if anyone tells. So they keep each other in check with blackmail.
Anyhoo this is my very literal interpretation of how and why shit like this may happen. Human beings are fascinating and fucked up.
Even if I'm way off base with this in particular it's not hard to imagine people who are so wealthy and powerful that money, worldly possessions, and drugs aren't shit anymore dabbling into matters of life and death for fun.

This has been a tall tinfoil hat presentation, exits to the left and right, thank you and enjoy your evening.

>>368886
I feel like I'd live a pretty boring life if I were that wealthy, I haven't noticed a difference in empathy or mistreatment of others now then when I had no money. I'm not a billionaire or millionaire though.

>>368840
Poppy is actually obviously just a normal person who is influenced by Titanic, another normal person. They are kids playing dressup at what being a celebrity is.

>>368901
Lol this is a cute response anon.
Definitely talking about extreme wealth spanning many generations, not just one person in a lifetime gaining some coins. Congrats on your success though!

>>368986
Titanic is her handler.

This thread is a mess, make an individual conspiracy thread or post about celebs in the celeb thread.