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No. 288136

Post about moving to another country and culture. How hard was it to adapt and what difficulties have you encountered. What do you miss most about home. Was moving to another country worth it?
Pros and cons of your home country and the country you have immigrated to
Anything related to immigration/living in another country

No. 288146

Im back in my home country because I’m in between visas until December and I’m so fucking miserable. Its funny how I’m overcompensating now by binge watching media from said country and cooking all of the foods that I cant get in my small home town, but once I’m back overseas and get settled into my routine I always binge watch old American sitcoms and eat shitty mcdonalds burgers like a basic ‘merifag

No. 288148

Has anyone moved back to their designated homeland after living elsewhere for a long time? It's been a few years since 'returning' and I still don't feel like I'm assimilating.

No. 288164

It happened to me too when I was studying abroad. Normally I don't care about my country's pop music but when I was there I listened that genre a lot. I also watched forgotten old shows that normally I'd never watch them at home. Now I'm back in my country and it's been years since I returned but I miss there and would go and do the same things if I had the chance

No. 288166

Has anybody had experience with moving from America to Europe?
If so, how difficult was it, in terms of paperwork, and visas and whatnot?

I've been interested in it for sometime now. I'm 19, only been out of highschool for a little over a year, and not currently in college so a student visa and going to college abroad seems like the best option.
Should I apply directly to a foreign college or apply for one at home with a study abroad program? Which one would be the cheaper option?

Another option I've been looking in to is being an Aupair. Would it be easier to do the whole Aupair thing and then apply for a college once my contact is over?

No. 288921

It is cheaper to apply directly in Europe but you have to prepare and provide a lot of paperwork yourself which can be time consuming and complicated. If you apply through an Amarican uni it's a lot more expensive but the paperwork will be served on a tablet for you.
I would suggest you apply for unis in the Netherlands since it's cheap and a lot of courses are in English, so you don't have to learn the language.

No. 288972

Hey anon do you have experience with living in the Netherlands since I might move there for uni. If you do, share please

No. 295776

I might be moving to Uruguay so I’ve started learning Spanish.
Does anyone have any links where I could watch tv shows or films in Spanish with English subs? My googlefu is not working en espanol.
Also what would you suggest I watch?

No. 295779

why are you moving there?

No. 295781

I have a friend there who has touted it as a freaking utopia.
I wanna go check it out, maybe I’ll come home, maybe I won’t.

No. 295786

They are lying lmao
As for spanish search for argentinian shows in YouTube/Netflix since their spanish slang/flow is the closest

No. 295788

How are you going to find a job?

No. 295793

I can get a job from my friends FIL to start with. If I decide to stay I’ll probably save up to start a shop or something.

No. 295798

Do you know perhaps how much would the average monthly costs be?
I'd like to travel through Peru, Chile, and Uruguay, but I'd like to stay longer there.

No. 295800

why would you guys wanna go to south america as women, alone, or even with someone, especially other women? i wouldn't.

No. 295801

I’ve heard you can’t rent a house for <£200/month if you stay out of the touristy cities and food is dirt cheap.

No. 295802


Dunno why that autocorrect pen to cant

No. 295804

Thank you. That sounds wonderful.

Why not?

I've been through some major cities in the west europe and they didn't strike me as the safest.

I don't intend to go deep in the woods somewhere.

No. 295807

To add, I wouldn't even consider going to somewhere like Brazil or Venezuela, Colombia or some central American countries because I've heard that there, in particular, are devastating rates of femicide.
But Uruguay, Paraguay, Chile, and Peru have been known to be alright.

No. 295864

Brazil is not that bad, it depends a lot on the place. Most of the world media will use Rio de Janeiro as an example, and it is in fact one of the worst places there.

By the way, brazilian living the american dream reporting. Didn't have much of a cultural shock, except for being a lot safer. I just miss the food and my family.

No. 296656

Burger living and working in Central Europe. It’s been a couple of years with some mild culture shocks, but I love it and have no plans to move back to the U.S. anytime soon.

For pros, I feel much safer here. Violent crime is low. The streets are well lit and MOST of the city is well connected. I also enjoy the more “aloof” stranger culture. Not forcing superficial conversation is always a plus for me. The cities and countryside are beautiful and I love the culture. It’s also very convenient and inexpensive to travel to other places in Europe. Although wages seem low comparatively, my SO and I live comfortably here. It’s also a dog-loving culture, so our dog is very happy.

For cons, I would say the language has been a struggle. I try, but even after a couple of years, I’m still rubbish. Maybe A2. BUT native speakers are very kind and patient if you make an effort. Shopping for clothes and electronics is expensive and shipping anything here is a nightmare. Bureaucracy is a pain but that’s everywhere.

I think an issue that a lot of people run into when they move abroad is busting out of the expat bubble. I’m still figuring that one out myself. I have a couple of native friends, but most of the people I know here are American or British. They’re great, but the expat community as a whole here seem like a bunch of Debbie downers.

No. 296726

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where in ce are you?

No. 298257

I was going to post this in the stupid questions thread, but this one came up first in my search.

In the great US of A, to apply for certain working holiday visas you need to be qualified as a currently enrolled student (sending in a proof of enrollment letter is part of the application). I don’t qualify for student loans and I want a school thats all online, has open enrollments, and has cheapo monthly payment plans since I plan to cancel my enrollment if I end up getting the visa.

Of course this only leaves me with those ‘nationally accredited’ online for-profit schools. Would it be stupid to just enroll for a month there, get the visa, then qualify for a tuition refund and get my money back. I’m not looking to actually graduate with a degree and try to get a job with a useless degree, I’m just wondering if immigration will be picky about the fact that its not regionally accredited and trash my application.

No. 298402

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I'm a dual UK/Irish citizen from England, living with my boyfriend in Australia for most of the year.

I have to fly back every six months or so due to visa restrictions, and not being able to work on my visa drives me nuts (I'm looking into volunteer gardening work just for some kind of interaction with the outside world), but I love the plants, wildlife, and beaches here. The warmth also makes it a lot easier to grow my fruits and vegetables!

I miss my family a lot, and my grandfather passed away earlier this year before I could fly back and say goodbye, so I'm going to make the most of my next visit home in December. I also weirdly miss England a bit despite hating it the entire time I lived there - I keep playing the UK map on Geoguessr just to feel like I'm back there for a little while.

I'm not sure if I'd need Australian citizenship in order to live here permanently (since we intend to get married in the next two years or so), but I'm already a dual citizen and don't particularly want to lose either of my existing citizenships. We need triple citizenships already, I'm greedy

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I’m not an expert but I think maybe you can have triple citizenship if the countries you hold citizenship with allow dual citizenship? Pic related says you can be a citizen of “other countries” which would be weird to specify if it only meant one other country, I think Irish and Aussie law would be similar as they both allow dual citizenship too

I definitely think it’s possible as even holding dual citizenship with countries that don’t allow it is possible if you’re sneaky (got friends who get by using their citizenships selectively)

I would be surprised if Australia doesn’t allow permanent residence without citizenship though but I know the immigration rules there are super strict so idk

No. 298428

I'm not the one immigrating in this case but I'm trying to import my French fiance and it is a nightmare. He came to stay with me for three months (the limit for tourists) and they held us at the border to interrogate us because they didn't believe he intended to leave after his time was up (he really did). Now we're filing for a permanent visa so he can come here and we can get married and it's such a bad feeling. I'm basically begging the government's permission to be in a relationship. I had to collect signed letters from everyone who met him while he was here, provide proof we're really together, more proof that we intend to actually marry (although I can't actually plan much of anything for the wedding yet since who knows when it'll be), and then we both have to be interviewed separately. Once all that's done, he'll be issued a three month visa, then we have to get married and file more paperwork and basically do it all over again before it expires. And on top of all that, even once he gets the visa, we can be rejected at any step of the way, right down to the guy checking passports as he gets off the flight.
Idiots and skanks get married on a whim during drunken nights in Vegas every day, but I have to spend the next 6-8 months hoping and begging just to be with a guy I've known for a decade and truly love.

Isn't Australia pretty much permanently in "fuck off we're full" mode nowadays?
>I wouldn't even consider going somewhere like Brazil or Venezuela
I don't think ANYONE is considering even visiting Venezuela right now

No. 298436

I'm an American in the process of immigrating to Australia with my partner. I've already lived here a year on a working holiday and have applied for a spouse visa; currently I have a bridging visa while waiting for my spouse visa to be processed, which I can work on without restriction and receive Medicare, but I cannot travel outside the country (if you need to, you can apply for another visa which will permit travel).

You don't need citizenship to live here full time, just permanent residency, but it is EXTREMELY expensive ($7000 AUD for the application alone, this isn't including any other fees like medical and police checks). Even if you get married you still have to apply for the spouse visa and pay out the nose for it, there's literally no way around it if you want to live in Australia. You need tons of proof of your relationship, pictures, chat logs, evidence of a social life, statutory declarations from your (Australian) friends. On top of that, the processing time is about two years - but like I said, you get a bridging visa in the meantime that permits you basic health cover and the ability to live and work in the country.

If you have any other questions let me know. Happy to help.

No. 298765

I'm American and trying to import my Britbong.

Has anyone gone through the fiancé visa process who can recommend what to put on my letter of intent to marry, what supporting documents to attach, and how to attach said docs?

Any advice is seriously appreciated. Godspeed to everyone ITT.

No. 298768

i'm gonna need a little more info, did he ever have a US visa? if he's a student it'll be super easy. student is the only thing i have experience on.

No. 298769

I'm intending to move to Aus to be with my boyfriend after the start of 2020. He's been to visit me at the start of 2017, I went to see him at the end of 2017, and now he's coming to see me again in a month.

I am…fucking terrified of this entire process, especially since I've seen a lot of information that bars you from applying for specific visas while you're in the country. From what I had looked into, I'd have to fly back to the states and file for the work/holiday visa while we got the process started for the spousal visa. It would allow me to work and then extend while IN Aus from what I saw.

What was the first visa you got in order to stay?? I'm so confused on the entire process and websites and people are so retarded, (Why call me, you need to call xyz, no call abc, no go to def)

No. 298792

That seems so hard ! I know a bit about those laws as I considered marrying my american bf (I'm from Europe) and his family knows an old couple just like us. They kept telling us it's just a few paperworks but since they got married years and years ago I'm pretty sure the process got tougher.

Do you think it's as easy as those 90 days fiancé contestants make it seem to be ? I only ever watched one episode, but isn't it highly ironic to showcase people who took advantage of their tourist visa to get married while it's kind of illegal ?

I had a quick look around and I think you can also get married in France, you just need to stay in the country for 40 days. Maybe it'd be easier to get married there and then hire a lawyer to make the wedding official in the US rather than go for the fiancé visa. Either way you'll probably spend a few thousands on it but ultimately it's worth it.

No. 298807

The first visa I got was a working holiday, which let me work and live in Australia for 12 months. Near the end of my working holiday, we submitted the application for my spouse visa, which automatically granted me bridging visa A at the end of my current visa. Once my working holiday expired, my BVA became active, which is what I'm currently on. My spouse visa is still processing and current wait times are 19-24 months. I can continue to live and work in Australia until my application is processed on this visa.

I hope this clears it up, it's a very confusing process and there's tons of conflicting information out there, and the govt does not help you at all when trying to figure this out. It is MUCH easier to file while in the country and I recommend doing that if you can swing it. I personally just tied up all my loose ends in America before coming here on my working holiday with no intention of going back anytime soon.

No. 298835

Moved to Japan this year. I never really experienced culture shock because I knew the language beforehand and visited before to ensure I wasn't going to want to come back home right away. Most of my friends are Japanese as well so i feel extremely lucky.
That being said I do miss a lot of things about burgerland. I miss the freedom and being able to go out in shorts/tanks. I miss not having to cover up my tattoos all the time. I miss the huge stores that had everything and the spaciousness of it all. (I have dreams of shopping at Target) Hell, I miss grass. I also miss tv that isn't talk show or food focused. Even if it were food focused give me something interesting like kitchen nightmares. I so desperately want to watch true crime shows too.
I also am having a hard time with the stubbornness of the culture and how defensive people get from criticism. Like I'm not autistic and say "wow fuck Japan" to coworkers or people I just met but, for instance, a celebrity got a tattoo and people freaked the fuck out so I said something online. I immediately got swarmed with "it's because it's Japanese culture. It can't be helped" like no shit it's culture but it's dumb as fuck that a tattoo got a bunch of press and just because it's culture doesn't mean it can't be criticized. Or the whole Tokyo med school not letting women in shit or the desensitization of loli media. There's just so much stagnant attitude and stubbornness here that I guess I'm too American to ever understand.

No. 298927

Nope, never been a US student and not planning to do the student visa because $$ and planning. He has only come over on the visa waiver program.

No. 299122

Did you just get a 1 way ticket to Aus and then file for it in the country? I'm unsure of what to do but I want to follow the same path, tie up my ends and then go.

No. 299125

Yep, that's exactly what I did. I haven't been back to American since I first came here.

No. 299138

Please don’t. You’re destroying our economy in the middle of a job crisis.

No. 299144

The field I'm getting a job in needs workers, I'm pretty sure I'm not going to be ruining your economy any more than it already is.

No. 299145

It’s 99% sarcasm. For reals though, I hope you’re not going to Sydney or Melbourne. The rent is atrocious in the cities.

No. 299146

I'll be in Victoria, but I'm gonna try a suburb of Melb to be around. I'm aiming for something in/around the city but not living within the city. And nah dw, any Aussie I've ever met takes the economy as a joke so I knew haha

It's probably a shit job for a temporary position but I'm aiming to be a relief teacher or something in a pre-k or elementary position.

No. 299153


wait, teaching? I was under the impression that teaching jobs were few and far between and that there were a lot of wanna-be teachers that had to settle for something else.

One of my relos initially did teaching at uni (although that was a while ago) but had to do something else because there were no jobs in VIC at least.

No. 299299

Studying in euroland (getting my degree, not just a semester abroad thing) and I’m cursing my burger education for not making us fluent in more than one language. Literally the hardest thing to overcome so far is the language barrier. You try to practice in day to day life to pick up on the language but just a small mispronounication they automatically switch to English and it’s hella frustrating. I’m taking a class but I’d like to be able to actually use the things I learned and apply them to real life so I actually get something out of it, but everyone is in a hurry to help the foreigner and keep it moving, even if everything is a much slower pace than the US.

No. 299314

If you're talking about people you see on a day to day basis tell them straight up that you want to improve in whatever language is the common one where you are. Especially if they're fellow students, they'll definitely understand.

No. 299353

Education won't make you fluent, you have to expend the effort yourself. Many people around Europe study English for years and still sound like Tarzan, and many others have never studied it in school but speak it very well because they use it a lot in video games, watch a lot of movies in English etc. Most people in my country don't speak a word of English and rich moms in the capital even hire American/English nannies so their kids could learn it better but nobody realises it doesn't actually work unless you want to learn it.

No. 299415

Ouch. Melbourne suburbs are pricey considering a lot of the houses are heritage and small/chilly. Don’t go Richmond or St Kilda unless you have to imo.

Imo you’d have better luck going slightly more rural. There’s some fairly good Christian schools about an hour out of Melbourne (Warragul sort of area)
Public schools too, but the Christian one has always had really nice kids. Big agriculture program, lots of little cow nerds.

No. 299717

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Can any eurofags confirm if this is true? Do you guys actually judge each other for going to the grocery store in sweatpants?

No. 299723

Yes, they're considered pyjamas and look super unkempt. I remember other euro anons even talking about it here before a few years ago in some thread.

No. 299725

blogpost, but i used to live in england. whenever my flatmate and i were lounging around the house in sweats and t-shirts but we needed to walk down the road to tesco for something, he'd always grab jeans and a different t-shirt before we went out. he never said shit to me when i didn't change out of my sweats, but one day when he went to go change and i told him he was fine since it was chilly out, he looked at me like i was insane. i asked why it mattered if we were only going for veg and bread, and who was he trying to impress? he told me that other people would look at him like a lunatic, and although i insisted i wasn't going to the store for the conversation and social interaction and that people could think what they liked, for him it was still important that other people would think he was slobby or weird. for them, lounge clothes definitely don't leave the house unless it's unavoidable. it tended to shock my friends when i told them most americans hit walmart in pajamas and shit on the regular.

the other kids from uni dressed fairly nicely, too. i'm not saying they went all out, but i've gone to american uni and english uni, and while americans went to 8 AMs or even later classes dressed as they pleased, kids in my british uni NEVER came in sweats or sleep pants. i might've seen one or two the entire time i was there. they were always dressed for the day. it definitely motivated me to dress more nicely even when going out to run errands or stop by the school for 5 minutes, but now americans give me shit for "getting all prettied up" for walmart and the dollar tree.

No. 299731

Yes, and my town is by no means fancy. Nobody wears those outside the home/gym except for a couple trashy adidas-clad dudes mentally stuck in 2003.

No. 299732

>Europeans only wear sneackers when they are training at the gym or running
You should stop reading after this. Such a ridiculous bullshit.

>never seen them wearing tank tops

>flip flops
I'm laughing, like I'm not kidding I fucking laughed.
The only true thing about this idiotic post is that American fashion is more laid-back. People rarely wear sweats outside. Nothing else is correct.

No. 299742

britanon here, this is bullshit, I see people in sweatpants and messy buns all of the time, nobody cares. Maybe in bigger cities it's true

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