/ot/ - off-topic

A few years ago, my friends planned a birthday lunch for me, and some friend of a friend invited herself (never met this woman before) and then spent the whole lunch pitching her MLM. She didn't even order anything to eat, just kept asking for water from the wait staff. She brought a tablet and everything and was playing videos, tried to show us some fucking powerpoint presentation. The girl who knew her was so embarrassed, claimed she had no idea that was going to happen. Pretty much ruined the lunch, but at least the cake was good I guess.

My dad also bought into Amway when I was a kid, we just ended up using all the stuff ourselves, garage was full of the crap for years.

I don't know how to get people to avoid this stuff, it seems so obviously a scam.

Does Landmark Forum count as an MLM? 'cause I lost a friend to that AND a vitamin MLM, claimed Landmark cured his depression, and that the vitamins cured his diabetes.

God this shit is so irritating. Had an acquaintance everyone called "Camel Joe" because he looked like the fucking camel cigarette mascot. He got into this shit with his wife and invited me out for lunch at Panera only to start trying to pimp out this shit. Not gonna lie, the presentation was really well put together and looked really professional (the conferences with these people is mind blowing), but like hell I was going to buy fucking $600 worth of no name makeup and other bullshit and have it sit in my house or a landfill for eternity. "I have something really cool I wanna share with you that I think you'll like!" Don't fall for it, you'll waste an hour of your life trying to eat a sandwich and not look at them like they grew 3 heads.

i ran into a kid i went to elementary school with and he tried to recruit both me and my ex. i called bullshit immediately but my ex was intrigued and met the guy for coffee. he said that the guy couldn't even answer what company he worked for, or what product he was supposed to sell. people who fall for these things are borderline retarded and deserve to learn their lesson. if you sign on for a job but don't even know why you're asked to recruit more people, it should immediately set off alarm bells.
not to mention being asked to spend hundreds to visit a convention. no legitimate job will ever ask you to do that. only high school dropouts and those of below average intelligence take the bait.

I'm actually really curious to see if we will have anyone defending MLMs here. Somehow they always pop up in every discussion.

The gross thing is how they prey on vulnerable and desperate people, but it's often hard to keep up any sympathy for these people for long. I've never experienced anything MLM related myself (is it more of a US thing? What do you have in your country?), but hearing these stories is always a good time.

>>282041
Sadly I'm not so sure about the intelligence thing. My friend is pretty wise and bright so it completely floors me that she's bought into something so stupid. It really doesn't correlate with the rest of her intelligence at all.

>>282046
Sorry, samefag. I'm the OP talking about the YL friend.

>>282045
They work if you get in early and live off lower members' sales, it's a pyramid scheme.
but it's impossible to predict which MLMs will actually take off.

I'm not in America and I've heard make up companies like Mary Kay and Avon are considered to be MLMs there? I mean, they obviously are, but are they considered scams? My mom was their "consultant" or whatever it's called, but I don't think she lost any money.

My ex-neighbor in her 40s got involved into some MLM with bitcoin. You have to pay 500+ dollars (huge amount of money in my country) to become a participant and they supposedly convert it to bitcoin and trade it or something so that you get interest. She was saying that she'd get money doing nothing after the investment, then it turned out she actually had to recruit new participants to get humiliatingly small payments. She doesn't work, is in debt and is just sitting at home calling people and trying to convince them that she's a millionaire who needs new employees. She also spends her own money on some stupid courses on how to become a rich person, how to entice a man, how to become a "real woman", etc. The courses are provided by the same MLM, they tell everyone that it's essential to become successful in their company. I saw those videos, it's fucking horrible, they're conducted by nasty looking middle-aged men who don't know how to put a sentence together. Yet she was watching them religiously and was hoping to get married to one of those men in her company eventually. She's still getting no money and still denies it's a scam, she believes it's her fault because she's a woman and lacks intellect to do business with men.

Not related to the MLM but she's also religious, prays every morning and night so loudly you can hear her two floors down. She's been going out to dates but they've all been unsuccessful. She believes that a man should provide everything for the woman so that she shouldn't work, but she doesn't even know how to cook basic things and thinks that sex once a month is more than enough. I'm still wondering what she thinks is so great about her that she's desirable for any millionaire out there… She's divorced and has no children, keeps in touch with her ex-husband even though he beat the shit out of her. She believes it's all her fault, she should've been more patient or something. And also, she was a terrible neighbor, I've never had so many fights with anyone in my life before.

>>282052
i read through one of the books they give out for a laugh and there was a whole section that targeted women. saying how hard it is in other industries for women to hold top positions but how you don't need a man to become a businesswoman with the help of the MLM. i found it pretty insidious.

>>282052
>> Avon being MLM
i-is it. My mom used to do it… she isn't doing it anymore but she was in it for a long time.

>>282045
Is avon an MLM? What about pampered chef? Both companies sell actual products to consumers. And the products aren't bad? Like avon's makeup isn't any better than what you'd get at ulta, but it's not complete garbage. The problem w/ young living essential oils is that they don't meet any kind of standards for purity or quality control.

>>282286
yes, avon is. your revenue depends both on direct sales and recruiting other avon sellers.

>>282052
I was surprised when I heard Avon is considered a MLM, it makes sense in retrospect but it's so normal and accepted in my country (though out of fashion these days). I guess it gets a pass because it's actually successful and people actually want to buy Avon, so they can build a customer base without harassing anyone.

>>282286
The "but there's a product" reasoning is often used by MLM shills to prove it's not a pyramid scheme. Thr problem is that the products themselves vary from laughably overpriced (Lularoe, Younique) to actually dangerous (essential oils and supplements/shakes MLM). Hell, even Tupperware is an MLM.

I work in a retail store that sells mostly womens clothing. Shoes, handbags, perfume, jewelry and some other accessories etc. The Mary Kay ladies have been driving us CRAZY. I cant help but notice how cult like they are its ridiculous. We had one lady come in, walk around the store for 30 minutes telling us how she worked for our store long ago. Just circling the store and us. Doesnt buy anything. Comes up to me and says she works with models, that i have a nice face and would i be interested in modeling for her. I had no idea she worked for Mary Kay. I say maybe and she gives me her card and asks for my number. I see its Mary Kay. Next day she texts me and asks if i want to come to her house to >try new mary kay items.
So i realize at this point the modeling stuff was bullshit and she just wanted to hawk her products. Tell her I cant because my work schedule is packed this week and maybe some time in the future. She asks me >Whats your schedule for next week.
Im like…uh..wut bitch lmao. Im not laying out my schedule for you like..I dont even know you. This is some damn Mormon level behavior lmao. They come in and pretend to be interested in things so they can leave their cards and flyers in our store. Its just weird af.

if you guys see job listings for this company, stay sharp, i think it's a scam if not some kind of pyramid scheme. only alternative is that i happened to get a really derpy representative who lied through her teeth at the expense of the company.
i applied to do ""consumer outreach"" (lol) with them under the impression it would just be part time product demos or something, with pay per hour. lady seemed very excited about my resume, gave me a phone interview, long story short

>no wage per hour, pay by commission only
>$20 per customer obtained
>customer outreach employees have to scramble to sign up to get events every week to try to get customers, first come first serve

obviously this sounds sketchy and unreliable so i ask her the minimum amount of customers i can expect to get per event and the minimum amount of events i can expect to do per week, if any. she seems thrown off that i even asked and after uhming and ahhing claims that i can expect, on average, a minimum of 20 customers an event, 3 events a week. And that's after I got clarification that you can't just casually do events as infrequently as you like, because if you miss one week you'll be last in line to get events the next week, etc.

after getting off the phone i did the math for the "minimum" commissioned pay for this entry-level, part time job and it would be ~$57,600 a year. Somehow I really fucking doubt it.

Sure enough I got an email back abrubtly about how they "decided not to move forward" with me hmmm.

Anyway, if this company ends up being the next LLR, you heard it here first!

I could rant about MLMs for days. My sister quit her job to do one of the big nutrition/lifestyle MLMs and all she does is spend all day scrolling through Facebook on her phone. She also acts pissy with me because I’m not interested in ordering any of the products she sells, which are expensive and unnecessary for me to use. I can’t bring up feeling tired or having a stomachache without hearing “I’ve got something better for that” or “Let me get you in touch with someone I know”

Long before this happened I also experienced the invitations to parties that turned out to be pitches for At Home America, Thirty-One, Pampered Chef, etc. Nothing like meeting up with a close friend you haven’t seen in two years only to find out they just want you to buy some shitty paisley quilt bag.

>>282026
My stepmother is an Amway zombie.

She's trying to become a diamond since 15 years now but she only makes 200 at most.
She only talks about Amway. She listens to motivational cds all day long. When my father died she tried to sell vitamins to everyobody saying that they were going to help calming the grief.

Since she doesn't make a dime selling supplements and awful smelly detergents I tried a few times to tell her to try selling the makeup and she went rabid on me.

This shit is cultish and crazy. Stay away from those Amway Zombies.

I can't wait until all of the losers I went to high school with start hitting me up

>>282583
Very accurate meme my friend.

God, this thread reminded me why I ghosted my former best friend from college some years ago. She was all cool and chill to hang out back then, but the decided to get some work because she needed money. She then told me that she started to go to some events that are finacial services related. After that she said the continued to go to some training program of the company (with a bunch of friends of hers). And this was when things started to suck being friends with her bc at this point she had to look for people to check their insurances in order to earn some money. So started to ask me out of the blue if I was interested in one of those things she offered to help to save money, but I always told her kindly that I wasn't interested. Things got so bad that even a "No" wasn't expected and whenever she started to talk about this subject about insurances and other finacial things she went about a lecture why I really, REALLY needed this.

I got annoyed about everything and as I mentioned, ghosted her because she was just interested to get you in one of those programs she offered. And checking on her, it seems like she works full time there now.

>>282038

And I like to add, this meme is creepy accurate because she was obsessed with this "The secret" book lol

My friend from high school wouldn't stfu about some herbalife styled shakes. I lied and said i was allergic to whey. She sounded so culty when trying to pitch it to me. It was such a pyramid scheme. Talking about positive living ect.
Bitch ended up getting gastric bypass anyway.

My aunt and sister used to sell avon but they were extremely chill about it and wouldn't shove it in your face if you weren't interested. To this day one of my favourite perfumes is avon. Their makeup is pretty mediocre though, specially their terrible barely pigmented eyeshadows.

Fucking thank you OP for this thread. My mom lives off MLMs, it's so frustrating. My parents house is filled with products my mom tried selling at one point.
I remember one time she dragged me to one of her friends pyramid scheme parties when i was in high school and i thought it was gonna be a nice get together, then some random woman comes to her friend's living room and starts lecturing us about fucking chocolates. at first i was pretty interested because i love free samples, then the next thing i get handed a pamphlet with the products… everything is so expensive. my mom ended up being a consultant and we had to have our own chocolate party a few months afterwards with the same random lady in our house promoting this overpriced chocolate.
A few months after this, my mom decided to try selling these red weight loss pills. I think my sister's best friend's mom persuaded her to do it. It was so dumb seeing my mom talking to her friends and then randomly trying to sell this stuff she doesn't even use.
The current pyramid scheme she's in is because of her old coworker, who's an insane anti-vaxxer. She's trying to sell Univera products and the backstory of the product is so ridiculous. My mom is paying $85 for two liters of flavored aloe vera juice when she could just get an aloe plant for herself for 1/10th of the price. I remember when she tried to get me to drink some of her Xtra concentrate juice and it was just cold aloe vera gel. Seeing my mom trying to fool herself into thinking she was cured by drinking this cold slime was hilarious. She would go up to me and my sister in the middle of the day to ask us, "Don't you guys feel so much better after drinking this Univera Xtra? My brain doesn't feel so foggy anymore."
I had a handful of people I was close friends with in middle and high school that ended up in pyramid schemes and I didn't realize until I once made a Facebook post mocking MLMs and they all wrote the longest paragraphs and unfriended me lmfao

>>282693
>she was obsessed with this "The secret" book lol
One of my friends kept playing the audiobook version in their car when we went shopping together, it was really awkward. For the life of me those inspirational/self help books do nothing.

Plus the writer of that book is a total quack, like blaming the Japanese for the Tohoku earthquake and nuclear disaster.

>>282286
The Pampered Chef sure seems like one to me? Then again, my only experience was at a friend's wedding shower where someone from PC was invited to come give a presentation and … that was it … that was the wedding party … some woman trying to sell cookware to a room of bridesmaids.

>>282816
Yeah, Pampered Chef is an MLM as well. IMO some like Pampered Chef, Avon and Stampin Up that are advertised far less aggressively compared to the health-related MLMs.

The main detriment of a bad MLM is that they function like a pyramid scheme where recruiting and paying for the product before selling it is a large factor. That’s why so many people go into debt with shit like Lularoe and Verve

>>282819
all mlms are pyramid schemes.

MLM "parties" are so fucking tacky and people who host them should feel embarrassed. Glad to know you want to hang out with me so that you can get a deal out of my purchases. I decline every invitation to one.

>>282052
Yeah Avon doesn't seem as predatory to me? My mom also did it for a short while, but only because one of her co-workers, who was selling Avon makeup to the women in her office ended up being transferred, and her other co-workers still wanted to buy makeup. I don't think she lost any money from it either. I don't think it's as high pressure as some other MLMs.

>>282830
What's the distinction and why are people more inclined to refer to them as MLM? I feel like pyramid scheme has worse negative connotations, if someone was to try sell their shit to me I'd respond calling it a pyramid scheme rather than a MLM to make my language stronger. But I don't use facebook so I've never experienced it, it's weirdly interesting to read about.

If you all haven’t read through this series, I strongly recommend it. It’s a long series, but it’s hilarious and tragic and illuminating.

https://ellebeaublog.com/poonique/

a lady tried to sell me younique makeup in the tj max dressing room the other day no joke lmao. I told the manager and she got kicked out

>>282998
That was a fun but sad read, I'm now very amused by the word Hun. I still don't really get how anyone could stand shilling garbage to their friends, even if I was convinced the company was legit and awesome I'd be too embarrassed.

Recently I found the social media accounts of an old friend. After getting sober she became a Mormon and now shills Purium, a line of naturopathic supplements for weight loss and "detox".

Purium's sales strategy is a bit different from that of most MLMs, as described on this site.

https://mlmcompanies.org/purium/

>>282850
I guess it's different for every country they try to their shit in. I'm not American, but these Avon people I see (irl and on social media) seem to be desperate as fuck. They seem to be spending a fortune on fb and instagram advertisement (fb ads have virtually no use for you if you don't already have a huge following but idk about insta adverts), very often pretend to be super famous and totally rich beauty gurus despite obviously lacking any decent skills at doing their own basic bitch makeup and never tell anyone publicly what a product costs.

When people comment why prices are not public and only available via dm, they act like you just insulted the queen and should be ashamed for even considering to ask. When people point out that these ladies are not some well-known beauty gurus, they get super pissed and claim that these people are just haters or don't know how the internet works.

Idk if this behavior is a reaction to whatever pressure-tactics the company uses to make their victims sell more stuff or if this kind of mlm just attracts the worst kind of people.

>>282998

woah anon thanks for that one, a fun read.

Just saw this. I feel so terrible for this man. This is why I hate MLMs.

MLMs are so insanely common on military bases, bored spouses with too much money just eat that shit up. I see a lot of women repping Scentsy, Lularoe, and Pure Romance. I feel like Pure Romance is the tackiest one, I got roped into going to a party because a friend of a friend. Listening to her blab about her suitcase full of sex toys and how her kids know not to touch "mommy's work stuff" was so fucking awkward. I also got some silicone lube from her and not only was it the absolute worst I've ever used but she decided to give me a bottle that had leaked, which she stuffed in a ziplock, rather than order new stock. Just terrible lol

>>283171
god, imagine if your SO did this. i have no idea how some people can be so naive, clueless, and horrible with money.

My little brother got roped into Amway when he was in high school. It was around the same time he converted to Christianity so he was in and out of "church family's" homes all the time. Apparently the person who got him into it was very high level in the company and invited my brother to his big ass house to prove how much money he could have. And from the way my brother talked about it, I'm sure they used his newfound faith as a way to convince him, which is pretty disgusting. Luckily he lost interest after a couple years.

Primerica almost got me a few years ago. I was working retail and a lady started asking me about my job, saying she admired my positive attitude etc. She offered me an interview for an office job, part time with flexible hours, and took down my number so she could text me the address. No company name and the building housed so many different offices I couldn't just google it. The interview was more like a 40min sales pitch for insurance. She told me I'd have to spend $100 in actual currency for a certificate But it's totally like a diploma and I could use it for anything even if I didn't stay with the company~ I thanked her and said I'd have to talk to my husband about it, but then she wanted his phone number and our address so she could come to our house and explain everything to him. I think I had to make 10 different excuses just to get out the door. Wasted half my day off for that bullshit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/lularoe/comments/8zy1p1/how_much_are_llr_clothes_worth_in/

>I have a parent who will monitor our budget for the next 5 years. If I want to buy a car or a house, I'll need to get permission from the trustee first.

Imagine being a grown ass adult and having to have your mom monitor your purchases

Anyone else waiting on more info to come up about the Watts family? They were sellers for the MLM Thrive and had been over 400k in debt a few years ago. Super fucking creepy murder case for anyone that hasn't heard about it yet.

>>283238
>bored spouses with too much money just eat that shit up
That's what bothers me a lot with MLMs, most of the time the "successful" sellers have a spouse that already has a decent income and insurance from their job.

Lol this thread reminds me of the time some girl I went to high school with who basically dropped off the face of the earth to be some army wife and raise some guys three kids. She appeared back on facebook and added a lot of us from middle/high school and sent us all basically the same messages saying stuff like “omg how have you been? Hows life? I miss you so much, its been so long!” And once you got to exchanging a few messages she’d hit you with “So I’m selling these teas and I think you’ll really like them!!”. And she was doing it with fucking everybody. Another friend of mine even called her out on a Facebook post for being so shitty, and all she could say was “Well sorry for trying to introduce some health into your life!!

>>283393

>Anyone else waiting on more info to come up about the Watts family? They were sellers for the MLM Thrive and had been over 400k in debt a few years ago. Super fucking creepy murder case for anyone that hasn't heard about it yet.

A short summery of this? Sounds interesting.

>>283415
>husband reports to police that his pregnant wife and two daughters are missing
>the wife is a very active seller for the MLM Thrive, posts on Facebook all the time
>they filed for bankruptcy 5 years ago with 400k debt but seem to be doing okay currently
>explains that his wife got back from a trip at 2am but wouldn’t respond to his texts during that day
>when he got home she and the children weren’t there, he also tells this on nationally broadcasted interviews
>winds up spending the night at another family’s house, they notice he is behaving oddly
>gets arrested the next day and tells the police he can lead them to where the bodies are
>the police find the girls’ bodies in oil filled tanks and the wife buried in a shallow grave on property where the husband was working

There is some funky court stuff going on but the assumption is that he murdered his daughters while his wife was at the Thrive convention and killed her after she was dropped off at the house by a friend. He was also selling the products so no one knows if the MLM was any motivation for what he did.

>>283458

Damn, dude is so cold during this entire interview. No signs of emotions.

>>282026
Oh god, my mom's being doing Rodan + Fields for a while now. I think the starter kit was about $500, but honestly I don't think she had to buy it, since orders are generally placed online through a "consultant" website, from my understanding.
I keep trying to get her to stop, but she makes up dumb fucking excuses like "I'm my OWN BOSS" and "I just have to WORK my BUSINESS". She's a part of several Facebook groups, too, and ENDLESSLY shills people she hasn't talked to in years. I honestly don't know how she got into R+F, especially after she's done the shitty Mary Kay thing. To be fair though, R&F is one of the better MLMs, and although their products are very much overpriced, they do work pretty well. It's almost funny to see the consultants defend all the shitty products. Oh well. I'm just glad she's not with Younique, or some snake oil thing.

I've only known three people to do MLMs:
>My mom's sister (has been unemployed for as long as I've known)
>My cousin (an army wife that has a graduate degree in economics)
>Some rando from high school a year below me

Otherwise I've had almost no exposure to this shit. Makes me feel sheltered in the same way I don't know anyone who has died from heroin overdoses. Do I just not know enough people or what?

>>283700
>> makes me feel sheltered in the same way I don't know anyone who has died from heroin overdoses
Anon wtf

>>283705
At least in America, it seems like everybody has known someone who has died from a heroin overdose. Everybody but me that is. It just makes me feel sheltered.

>>283757
I've never met anyone like that either anon lol.

hits blunt

Religions are a MLMs

>>282026
What's funny to me is that people are going to be on the look-out for sales and work a lot of hours to get maybe $300 a month when they could have just picked a small job and saved a ton of time and their friend's sanity.

I'm from Europe so MLMs are not that much of a thing and I'm pretty sure if they try too much of their crap here, the government might come down on them pretty hard. Businesses are much more regulated here than in the US so maybe that's why.

I actually saw a friend of a friend get into Younique recently but since she never tried to shill it to me, I'm not mentioning anything to her about the massive scam she's in. She gets barely 6 likes on her insta posts so me think she'll quit soon. To her credit, she makes good use of the makeup and doesn't look like the stuff you see on /r/youniqueamua

>That time I probably made it look like I was shilling Herbalife
Ok so story time, I moved recently to California and my bf's mom brought me to a smoothie / health related shop she likes. I got one called the birthday shake or something, it was honestly super good. Since I liked it, she then got me the powder and mix to make it at home and I guess the company is Herbalife but I had no idea that it was a MLM, or even what a MLM was at the time. But I liked making those shakes from time to time as a snack.

Fast forward to a few weeks and a friend's gf is sick and can't eat solid food and I'm trying to be nice and create relationships, so I tell her I got some Herbalife shakes if she want some, and I could bring it to her ? She politely tells me no and that she knew the company since she was a distributor at some point. It seemed a tad weird to me at that time how she absolutely didn't want some but eh.

Be me now and realize I probably sounded like a lame sales pitch for the company without even realizing !


Anyway, I'm lucky to not run too often into MLMs but I'm kinda saddened that you can't go to a county fair without seeing so many Scentsy or Lipsence stalls. I'd rather see homemade stuff :/

>>283952

You're looking for the cult thread.

>>284004
One of the many reasons I’m glad I moved out of the US. Though I still see the occasional Herbalife bag or shirt out here, and an Avon lady parks herself outside of my Tesco pretty frequently.

Should I do beachbody(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

>Saging because long personal story.
I knew this MLM hun who sold LuLaRoe and never liked her much but she was in my greater social circle. Just acquaintences for a couple years.
Then one day my husband suddenly has a seizure and is rushed to the hospital. Long story short, he has glioblastoma (fast-moving, incurable brain cancer) and needs emergency brain surgery.
He’s in the hospital for two weeks and I tell our friends what happened so they can come visit him.
The LuLaRoe bitch - without asking me - sets up a big LuLaRoe sale in her shop UNDER HIS NAME to “fundraise” a small percentage of the sales for him. I didn’t like this at all, because my husband and I both think LuLaRoe is a horrible company and don’t want any association with it. We certainly don’t want our family tragedy used as a sales strategy for LuLaRoe!
I didn’t want to start shit with her, and this was the day after his surgery when he’s still in the ICU, so I just politely asked if she could at least link our gofundme fundraising link on any page where she’s using my husband’s name to sell things. She was like “yeah :) sure! that’s fine!” and continued plastering my husband’s name all over her LuLaRoe social media.
Six months later, it occurs to me we’ve never seen a penny from this. I politely hit her up and ask her about the money. No response. I wait a week and hit her up again. No response again, and then she blocks me. I say “fuck it” and contact LuLaRoe corporate to ask what happened to the money that was allegedly being raised while she used my husband’s name and illness to sell shitty leggings.
I get no response from corporate but then the hun unblocks me and sends me this rage-filled message about HOW DARE I contact corporate and rat her out for ripping me off blah blah blah. At the end of the email, she explains that she decided not to give the proceeds of the fundraiser to us because I “didn’t sound very grateful” when she told me about the fundraiser.
This. Fucking. Bitch. The AUDACITY!
The day after my husband had brain surgery and was still in the ICU, she told us that she set up a LuLaRoe sale in his name using his illness for pity points, even though we already had our own fundraising, and then she has the nerve to claim I’m not grateful enough when she tells me?! The day she told me was right after his emergency brain surgery, when we still didn’t know if he’d ever walk again, and I still tried to be gracious and polite to her about the fundraiser. Even though I hated it and thought it was a disgusting cash grab. And she has the audacity to say we weren’t grateful enough, so she refuses to give the money fundraised in his name.
I’ve never been madder in my life, and to be honest, I didn’t even want the money. It was the principle of it. How dare she use his name in LuLaRoe sales at all, let alone not even kick him back the “fundraising” percentage.
>Sorry I’m getting really mad typing this. I know it’s blogging but hopefully it’s on topic enough for the thread.
I heard through friends of friends that she recently had a family tragedy, and I do feel sorry for her. But it has also taken a lot of restraint for me not to message her and be like “Oh hey hun XOXO I heard about your awful tragedy and I decided to use to to sell pyramid scheme products. I didn’t check with you before I put the sale up, I hope that’s okay with you. :) Be sure to take a few minutes from your grief to grovel at me about how grateful you are, otherwise I might just decide you don’t deserve the money anymore. Ok?”
I wouldn’t actually do that but dear god is it tempting.

>>672090

Wow I’m sorry I didn’t realize my comment was so long when I rage-typed it out. Also I probably should have spaced between the paragraphs.

>TLDR:
>LuLaRo seller uses my family’s tragedy to sell MLM shit under the guise “fundraiser” for us without asking our permission first.
>She started using my husband’s name to sell shit in her store as soon as she found out about his illness and before he even regained consciousness after emergency surgery.
>Then she decided not to give us any of the money she fundraised under his name, because we didn’t sound grateful enough when she told us about her fundraiser.

Would you call Dropshipping Advertisers and other "Financial Guru's" MLMs? They operate pretty similarly.

>>2001712
Do you have an example?

>>2001736
There are literally too many kek. I'm talking about the kind of guys that pops up on youtube ads everytime you watch something on finances. Their whole shtick is earning money by selling poor people their overprices guides on how to earn money with ecommerce (which happens to be 90% googleable material kek) and making delusional promises of the amount of money one earns. Usually they also have some kind of "community" element like a discord or a whatsapp group or whatever.

SOMETIMES, I feel bad for people who are victimized by MLMs, because they're marketed towards women, usually stay at home moms or women that are struggling financially and would benefit from "passive income" so they don't have to get a second job. The fact that MLMs can proliferate the way they do, for so long, before some oversight board swings the hammer down on them, is criminal. Then, the people that get obsessed with MLMs and go down that rabbit hole get essentially brainwashed. Some MLMs will encourage you to STOP interacting with people that "discourage your vision/business mindset", sort of like a cult telling you to abandon loved ones if they don't join the cult. Then, the victim of the MLM becomes insufferable to everyone that comes in contact with them. And they're always shilling the same shit - some powder you add water to for weight-loss slop, a bunch of weird generic pills in 10 tonnes of plastic that gets shipped to you week to week, garbage ass shitty clothing that NOBODY actually wants to wear, it goes on and on. Fuck. I fucking hate MLMs.