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No. 26321

What do you all think of the natural hair community? Personally I find it great a growing number of black people are finally accepting their natural hair because lets be honest before it was mainstream literally almost every black girl in Europe and America was wearing fake hair which in my opinion is strange. Yes, non-blacks wear wigs/weave too but it's odd and not common. I've seen plenty of black girls who relax their hair when they are fucking 7. That's not normal. So…the rise of actual natural kinky hair is a good thing.

But just like innocent hobbies like wearing kawaii clothes there are also plenty noticeable evil people in the community…it seems when non-blacks call their hair natural black people get really triggered. I would understand it completely if you'd get triggered when you see a girl who calls her hair kinky or afro even though it's straight and greasy but the word natural isn't owned by blacks. There was even a girl who wears her hair in a natural hair texture bullied by catty black people (by both men and women btw not only women). She was featured negatively in fucking Ebony magazine which is one of the oldest African American magazines. Utterly childish and unprofessional, even if their standpoint is SJW. What do you girls think of this?

Picture related; she is 12 year old and was called a racist and oppressor by thousands of adults on the internet.

No. 26328

why does hair culture appropriation only go one way? Black people can make their hair straight, like whites or asians and it's cool, white people do box braids and suddenly it's a shitstorm. Europe and america is "straight-hair centric" because most of the population HAS straight hair, not because kinky/curly hair is bad. It's not people shitting on curly hair, just that curly hair IS a minority that might not necessarily be worth advertising too. And the only reason people advertise straight hair to black people is that black people actually buy into this shit enough to make it good business, and then blame every other race for promoting straight hair as the most popular?

Shame too, I actually really like the look of box braids like OP pic. Too bad they're taboo for non-black people

No. 26329

>>26328
straight hair isn't a cultural thing. most black people straighten their hair because their family members do and no one else knows/feels like dealing with their hair otherwise.

anyway, i think people get all bitchy about people of other races wearing box braids because it's often seen as ghetto when actual black people do it but ~so cool when people of other races do it.

it's the double standard people SHOULD ONLY be bitchy about. unless the person wearing the box braids or any other generally 'black' hairstyle is being condescending about it, they should just be left alone.

No. 26330

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>>26328
Because every other race humiliates and mock us for our hair. Especially when we are getting bullied in school for having kinky hair. I find it hypocritical in my opinion. I can't speak for everyone. Whites tend to always do things blacks do while crapping on blacks. Which goes back to mooney's quote.
There are blacks who tend to attack other blacks for their hair as well. If you haven't noticed hair is the most important thing in African culture.

No. 26331

>>26321
Also, to whomever wrote this up. It is VERY common for white women and any other ethnicity to wear "false hair" White women aren't vocal about (and generally lie about it) While Korean, Japanese, and chinese women specialize in it (some wear false hair to avoid coloring as well). Black women are humiliated by media to falsify this idea. For example, making African american women purposefully wear wigs on Jerry springer only to have them thrown off. All women of all race ethnicity and background wear weaves wigs and extensions. Not all Black women have Short chemically damaged hair. I wish people would get outside more.

No. 26350

>>26330
i'm up in canada and i've never seen any kinda hostility towards curly/kinky hair, if anything most people seem to be supportive of it, complimenting afros and cornrows. the only thing that gets mocked would probably be weaves, but that goes in the same vein as straight hair "white girl" extensions. but ok, i can understand that kinda negative shit happening in the world. still, if a white person is not mocking your culture or anything, like the OP pic girl, what's so bad about them replicating a "black" hairstyle?


>>26329
if straight hair isnt' a white people thing, just a looks+convenience thing, then why are box braids explicitly a black people thing and not just looks+convenience too? i get that they're done to make black hair easier to manage, but you've got curly hair whites that may also want box braids for convenience - is that still trying to be black? hell even whites with straight hair might find it easier to deal with box braids, what's black about that? and yet general braids are fine?

No. 26353

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>>26321
I'm not going to support bullying a 12 year old, but to be fair she looks pretty bad. The yellow is too bright for her skin. It looks like she's wearing a wig made out of woven straw or something.
On a black girl, it would most likely be cute. On a white one? Unless you're like a 10/10 who would look glamorous with shit caked on your face, don't even try.
Pic related is the only white person I've ever seen to pull off braids.

No. 26354

Sorry for the long post, but I'm probably babbling at this point:

Honestly, the natural hair comm is great, because I was planning on relaxing my hair a year ago, but chickened out. Nowadays, I'm learning to love and care for my hair. Also, I'm happy I'm seeing it stretching out in alt fashions, where some people think afro textured people HAVE to wear a wig.
I believe some of the stigma also comes from the fact that people don't believe natural hair can't grow, which is a lie. Or that you have to be mixed to have that 'good hair'.
>>26328
Actually anon, straightened hair has been going back for centuries, but since I'm American/Caribbean based, so let's start from slavery.
Ever since slavery, people with Afro textured hair were rediculed, when at the same time, straight hair was praised. Women had to cut their hair. If they didn't do that, some would use all types of harmful chemicals just to straighten their hair. Some will even use hear combs.
Some women back then were forced to straighten their hair to keep their jobs or statuses. Many girls were bullied if they didn't have their hair straightened.
Some women are deemed as unprofessional when they don't straighten their hair.
Natural hair is seen as unkempt, or wild. While a girl with wavy yet frizzy hair will be commonly seen as pretty.
Sadly, that shit still happens today.
Some rules and regulations are against natural hair.
For example, that mixed girl in Florida was told she had to straighten her hair or risk expulsion from her school.
Another girl had in locs, and the school sent her home, it wasn't even wild….
Then take me for example. For context, I go to a school where probably 80% of the girl population had some chemical work done on their hair, or wear weave for the year.
One day I went out with my hair in a low ponytail and it was sort of frizzy, but still kept. I was laughed at, and told to straighten my hair, because it looked too 'nappy'. (I have 4b/4c hair with some straight strands in there)

I do know people who will look at That white girl and say she's unique and awesome for trying out New things, But then will turn around and diss a black girl for being 'ghetto' and wearing 'ratchet ass hair'. But hey, whatever floats this kid's boat. If she likes it(Imo I don't like it, but whatever), then so be it.

Overall, I feel that the community has a long way to go represention wise. You would see a lot of sites posting about good hair, or how pretty natural hair is, but only show 3a-4a hair. Then again, if many kinkier hair girls don't showcase their real hair, how would you see more representation?

Lastly, I have no problem with straight hair people calling their hair natural. If it isn't chemically enhanced (dyes, bleach)then it's natural. And just like different movements such as HAES(or what I think HAES should be), it's goals should be to show people that they should love their hair no matter what, but always leave room for improvement.
However, if they wanted it to be for curly(not wavy, I hate to see girls who have wavy hair calling themselves curly. Its like fat rolls calling themselves tidal waves)and kinky hair movement, why couldn't they call it something else? The curly-kinky hair movement or something.

No. 26355

>>26350
Just because you personally never noticed doesn't mean it never happens or happened. I am american born and number one people to harass me were arabs, hispanics, and whites. they always use slants about women of colors hair. Like making idiotic statements that "it doesn't move" or talking about how gross it is to them. Which made me very defensive and self conscience growing up. It was humiliating and frustrating to be a black person growing up in multiracial schools.

No. 26356

>>26328
I'm the OP and I don't think it's racist when black people make their hair straight. It's especially not cultural appropriation because I don't think anyone can appropriate cultures from white people, no offense. I in fact dont think you can appropriate hairstyles but I do believe the concept of cultural appropriation exists and many of us white people are guilty of it. But I agree with the rest of your post.
>>26329
Even though the girl looks really cool she looks very ghetto lol.
Zendaya rocks her braids and does not look ghetto at all.
>>26330
>hair is the most important thing in African culture
Maybe to African American culture, but not to African culture.
>>26331
Only ghetto/redneck or very slutty rich white women wear fake hair. But they also wear fake nails and fake eyelashes. It's really not a normal thing, trust me.
>>26353
Blonde hair on a dark skinned black woman looks ridiculous. Girl in picture related looks ghetto, trashy and cute.

I'll be reading the rest later.

No. 26359

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Unrelated but I never get a chance to post this

No. 26360

>>26355
I live in the Netherlands and dutch people there compare Arab's hair to pubes because it's also thick and dry like mixed girls. Fucking hypocrites, but just wanted to let you know that.

No. 26361

>>26355
>black woman complaining like a white racist

No. 26364

>>26359
She is right though only girls who are half black or Rihannish can pull of bright colors without looking trash. Bright hair is trash anyways, but they can make it extra trash.

No. 26367

>>26356
So apparently you aren't aware that a black woman is not allowed to wear her "natural" hair in Professional settings right? There is heavy restrictions on how africans should wear their hair in professional settings. Your comment is daft and lacks logic.
Hair is important in African culture dummy hair represents age, status, and culture. Pay attention and please stop making over opinionated comments with no level of knowledge in what you are talking about.

No. 26368

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>>26356
>Blonde hair on a dark skinned black woman looks ridiculous
Anon, I need you to sit down

No. 26370

So basically The purpose of this post was to again crap all over Black women Just because of their obsession.
>>26359 Also, what the heck was the purpose of her even stating that?

No. 26371

>>26370
Forgot to delete you tube video

No. 26372

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>>26364
But that's wrong, you're just racist.

No. 26374

>>26367
It isn't important to East African culture. It isn't important to North African culture.
>>26368
That shade of blonde looks ridiculous even on a white woman who is naturally dark haired. She looks trashy and ghetto.

No. 26375

>>26372
That's not a bright color, at all.

No. 26376

>>26374
Watch the video and shut up.

No. 26377

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>>26359
what?

No. 26378

>>26376
I stopped watching this video after she tried to associate ancient Egypt with black Africans. They are caucasian Africans and they braided their hair indeed, just like Europeans did. Hair was important to all cultures, it shouldnt be important now because…it's 2015, do whatever you want. But to African Americans I def think it should be an important element because they were so discriminated just because of their hair. Also, you're rude.

No. 26379

>>26377
redbone wimmin not a darkskin wimmin

No. 26381

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>>26378
You are a racist lunatic.

No. 26382

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>>26374
>she looks trashy and ghetto
Actually, she's adorable. Plus, she's wearing gyaru fashion, which is arguably trashy, but far from "ghetto" (aside from a few substyles).
You sound like one of those people who scream "Ghetto!" whenever you see a black person dressing in alternative fashion, but think "Oh, edgy" whenever a non-black person does it.

No. 26384

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No. 26385

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>>26378
>They are totally white lol

shut up

No. 26386

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>>26375
>Green is no longer a bright color
Ok

No. 26389

>>26381
I am Egyptian and I know my history pretty well.
>>26382
Nah when I see an Egyptian girl with blonde hair I think she is ghetto too. I just don't like platinum blonde. She is definitely beautiful but she'd look better with caramel brown hair. When I see a non-black woman dressing in alternative fashion I just think she has daddy issues
>>26384
Keep spreading false information instead of asking me why some of them are darkskinned.

No. 26390

>>26386
Girl on right would look better with brownish reddish hair.

No. 26394

>>26389
You don't they are now arab, the true egyptions aren't even around anymore after the greeks invaded. Egyptions in egypt are not the egyptions of the past. I knew this thread reeked arabs are the most racist of any group. Uneducated and hypocritical. I'm out.

No. 26396


No. 26397

>>26350
box braids are also a looks and convenience thing. but it is ALSO a style that is popular in the black community and often frowned upon by other people as being ghetto or ugly.

i never said it's trying to be black - did you mean to reply to the anon with the gif? i don't think it's trying to be black, i think it's liking a style and just wanting to do it - inherently, there's no harm in it, but when people seem to prefer it on anyone that isn't black, that is the issue. it's cute on a white girl but ratchet on a black girl. the double standard is the issue here - not the braids.

lemme repeat - there's nothing wrong with doing it. the bad thing is people have double standards about it and it is. box braids are cultural, but i don't think it's stealing - it is just hair, after all, but things typically associated with black culture are seen as lesser than until it's associated with someone of a different race.

the issue here isn't the box braids. the issue here is everyone being so quick to defend a white girls right to wear box braids and turning their heads and saying 'i've never seen any hostility about it on a black person' when it comes to the other issue.

i would say just try to listen to other people - just because you haven't seen something doesn't mean it doesn't happen. it's happened to me and, tbh, it hurts a lot, esp when people dismiss it.

thanks for taking the time to read this, btw, i can get wordy.

No. 26398

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>>26389
>>26390
>She would look better if-
Perhaps, but they both look good now. No point trying to escape the fact.

No. 26399

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How egyptions potrayed whites

No. 26401

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No. 26403

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No. 26404

>>26394
I'm from the South of Egypt, technically Nubian. Not once was I being racist. I have kinky hair too which is why I am educated about black hair care.
Arabs are not a race. It's an identity, of which I am proud of. I am also proud of my history. You do not belong to that history, period. You're crazy but I know you do not represent most of blacks.

>>26399
I thought you would leave?
>>26398
I wasnt that anon but she is cute even though she looks like she has daddy issues.
>nose ring
>blue hair
I prefer natural looks.

No. 26405

>>26397
Thank you. I would've said the same thing, but in a much ruder way tbh

No. 26407

>>26399
Except the dark skinned man the man with brown skin and white skin are of the same phenotype.

No. 26408

>>26403
So what white person wears Goat hair, Dreadlocks, Locks, and braids?
Egyptians weren't White. People trying to portray blacks as always living in poor huts for eternity. History being taken away. and idiot racists arabs pretending africans were always arab. THe Ottoman empire infiltration is FAIRLY NEW.

No. 26411

The ancient Egyptians weren't black or white or Arab or any other ethnicity. They were ALIENS, you fools. Aliens did everything. Aliens control the world.

No. 26413

>>26408
Read my posts since I am an actual Egypytian then. Arabs aren't a race, it's an identity. Also the women in picture related you're responding are just as much "fake" egyptians as the cleopatra. The real Egyptians are brown, not black or white. We have curly hair and are brown skinned.
>>26411
I am an alien indeed tbh thnx

No. 26414

>>26411
Exactly! Dumb fucks

No. 26416

>>26408
Also >>26399 the man on far left has braids.

No. 26417

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Ok but to stop derailing this thread I actually wanted a serious discussion without being called a racist. Is this possible?

No. 26421

>>26356

>I don't think anyone can appropriate cultures from white people, no offense.


I'd disagree pretty strongly with this

Like by this logic, even eastern euro people that haven't done shit to blacks, are not allowed rights to their own culture because it won't be cultural appropriation. So these kinda white people are left with one culture = the amalgam they have to share with everyone who wants in, while people of other races can choose if they want to emulate that blend too of if they want to follow the traditional culture of their race/ethinicity?


>Only ghetto/redneck or very slutty rich white women wear fake hair. But they also wear fake nails and fake eyelashes. It's really not a normal thing, trust me.


Whites shouldn't generalise about blacks, but that kinda generalisation is ok?

I can understand not being able to spot fake hair of a different race, cause white people may not have experience with weaves so they can't tell em apart and likewise black people may not have an experience with straight extensions so they may not know, but thinking this isn't a common thing is pretty misleaded. Mom works as an esthetician, you'd be surprised how common extensions and fake nails are on regular white women that we'd all consider classy (as in, not "ghetto/redneck/slutty" like you say).

No. 26423

>>26421
People no matter what race who wear weaves are very tacky. That's just my opinion. I'm very dull about European cultures, in my mind Europe is one big culture so I apologize. In that case it's possible. I've heard a lot of Eastern European countries are poor. But come on, most minorities are "appropriating" white Anglo American culture. Most dont even know what Eastern European culture even is.

I'm not black btw lol. People just get easily offended it seems.

No. 26426

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>>26423
Do you think she looks tacky? Her hair is actually shorter than shoulder length

No. 26428

>>26426
No but that hair color is really tacky. I like the makeup though, looks really nice and not too oily.

No. 26429

>>26413
What's the difference between Brown or black skin?
Not.trying to be rude but, Brown skin is associated with Indians and such right?
>>26403
>>26401
Pictures like these shows that Egyptians could have 'black' skin. But I'm not sure if y'all are talking about current Egyptians or old Egyptians, but then again, ethnic Egyptians could be black or Arabs/light.

No. 26430

>>26428
I think you just associate weave with tacky because it is something black people generally do

No. 26432

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>>26423
Tacky?

No. 26435

>>26430
Thing is, I've seen plenty of whites who wear such ugly weaves that I associate the weave just with hoes of all colors lol.
>>26429
Black/white ancient Egyptians were "immigrants". Original Egyptians looked like this girl >>26417

I say brown because that's what most of us identify as.
>>26432
Rihanna is the tackiest girl ever but her weaves are so fly. She is the only woman in the world who can pull off weaves.

No. 26436

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>>26432
Look at dat tacky ass hood rat ain't wearin ha real hurrrrr. Weave is so ghettttttto

No. 26438

>>26435
You've seen girls with shitty makeup but you don't think all makeup is shit. Things associated with black people are usually considered trashy. A lot of people think using wash cloths instead of loofas is trashy because black people generally use wash cloths. People are weird.

No. 26439

>>26436
It is but I'm still stanning for her.

No. 26441

>>26438
99% of the time makeup close up is really shit. Also what? Is it a stereotype blacks most of the time use wash cloths? Lol, my mum uses a wash cloth but I hate them because a loofah makes me so much cleaner.

No. 26442

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Tacky ass hood rat. Look at her ghetto ass weave, so low class and tacky

No. 26444

>>26442
Rihanna is a big hood rat and it hurts for me to say this because I'm a big fan. You're not proving your point. She is a high close hooker.

No. 26445

>>26444
I'm talking about her hair though. You are telling me her hair looks tacky?

No. 26447

>>26445
Not in the pictures you're showing. I know she is doing it for attention but she also has worn tacky ass weaves/wigs. She also does not represent the majority of how people wear their weaves. In my experience weave in general is tacky.

No. 26449

>>26444
Rihanna? Wasn't that Azealia Banks?

No. 26450

>>26447
My point is not all weaves are ghetto or trashy. And it's not just shanaynay who live on down da corna, who wears them. Even those girls who are going for that natural bullshit have in a head full of weave most of the time.

No. 26456

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>>26450
Omg she looks so ghetto and tacky

No. 26457

>>26449
Both are whores.
>>26450
I guess I'm that 4a makeupless vegan hipster girl then. I just cringe at fake everything. Maybe it's just a phase after I get sick of my hair.
>>26456
I find that weave tacky. Look at those edges! Don't like that one at all. Bleh.

No. 26458

>>26457
U just one of them baby headed hoes who hates on weave wearers

No. 26461

>>26458
Nappy *

No. 26462

>>26458
I'm not black so it aint THAT nappy although for white people I'm just a black girl lol and I've worn my hair natural since I was born.

But yeah politically incorrect speaking, I kinda am. So what? I hate it when girls wear makeup/fake nails too but irl I'm not bitching about it so don't worry.

No. 26463

>>26462
You're just like those assholes who think they're better than people who don't wear makeup. Bitch u still ugly get over it.

No. 26465

>>26463
No but I'd like to encourage girls to wear more natural makeup/wear french manicure nails. I'm really not ugly but for Europe I'm just average unless I straighten my hair/make my hair looser.

No. 26469

>>26465
>I'm really not ugly but for Europe I'm just average unless I straighten my hair/make my hair looser.

It's less about hair and more about the fact that everyone around you is wearing makeup while you aren't. You could leave your hair natural, just wear make up, and you'd go up much more in attractiveness

No. 26471

>>26442
This picture alone has made me realize Azealia is the one posting these pictures + all this Egyptian stuff tbh

No. 26479

>>26469
But why? I have naturally sunkissed skin, nice lips, thick eyebrows and nice eyelashes. I have an ugly nose and the queen's chin but makeup wont fix that.
Yeah I'd be much more attractive like everyone else but I don't really need makeup. More like plastic surgery lol.

No. 26488

>>26479
Cause that's just how make-up works. When tastefully and well applied, it makes even pretty people look prettier. For example, eyeliner is obvious to spot cause it looks unnatural, but it works in a way that makes (when applied well) the eye look better. Or eyeshadow. When chosen well and applied well, it makes the eye looks good, even though no matter now natural your skin is you will never get that effect naturally. It's not something that you could do naturally. Maybe you look good make-up free compared to other make-up free girls, but comparing make-up free to girls wearing make up is apples and oranges.

My point is that your hair, that it isn't straight, is not the thing that makes you look average but that you don't use make up. And that's ok, you don't need to do it if you don't like it, but you need to accept reality too

No. 26490

>>26479
>makeup wont fix that.
Google contouring and have your life changed

No. 26494

>>26456
That looks so greasy

No. 26503

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>>26494
That makeup is so badly done…
>>26490
While I have a bit of a wide nose, it doesnt concern me as much as my profile. Pic related is btw the profile of my nose (on the right). Will contouring fix that? Google says no.
>>26488
I agree but a lot of people don't like 4a curls. I've heard people saying my hair looks like a dead fox. That's why I said that I'm average and look better there with looser curls because thats closer to the western ideal of beauty.

No. 26507


No. 26510

>>26509
are we not talking about dark skin?

No. 26511

>>26510
Yes you're right. I wanted to fix my post.

No. 26547

>>26321
Because black people are the most racist people alive. Minorities and white people get harassed by black people.

No. 26610

I'm just going to ignore all the other shit that's already been posted because… it's retarded.

My beef in the natural hair community is texture.

Looser texture is more appreciated than textures like 4B/4C which is annoying.

Also I feel like SOME natural women DO lie about their hair growth. It's past arm pit length and she's like "omg took me 2 years to grow" yet you're two and half years in but your hair is still at collar bone despite you do all the right things in the natural hair book, same texture as her. Liar.

ALSO I think there is growing competition. Who has the biggest hair, the nicest curls, the shiniest, the longest, the faster growth… it's fucking irritating. That's why I don't go on many IG/forums/blogs about natural hair anymore, even that's turned into a competition between jelly black women.

No. 26612

>>26328

Mixed-chan here:

If you liked box braids anon, then GET them. Fuck what other people say. Just get the damn braids, you only live once and if blacks want to wear weave then fuck it, get the braids.

Most mixed/black women are trying to encourage natural hair which I believe is right. Perms are unhealthy as hell and weaves just wash out the fact that natural hair exists. I dislike both.

Yet tons of black women and mixed don't listen anyway, they continue to wear weave. So fuck them and fuck it, go buy yourself some nice box braids.

No. 26632

basically this whole thread was an excuse to attack Black women. Don't fall for the bait.

No. 26648

>>26610

that also depends on how your hair naturally grows. Some grow hair faster, no matter what. But i agree on the hair texture thing. Once it's curlier than 3c, no one likes your hair anymore.

No. 26665

>>26648

yeah but i do think some are lying about their growth rate espesh if you have same texture and use same products…


yep and THEN they have the nerve to bitch about "so racist" and "omg stop white washinn"

pfft

No. 26668

>>26632
Why do people get so easily offended lol

No. 26698

I think it's great that black woman have started a movement to love and take care of their natural hair and deeal with stigmas associated with going natural. But fuck the racism that some people in the community have against white people.

We're also discriminated because of our appearance. For most of the curlies I know, people bitch all the time that our hair looks messy and frizzy and we should straigten it to look pretty and professional. On top of that I personally have to deal with offhand comments that "I look like a black woman, but white" because of my body and features. I spent half my life disliking and frying my hair until I said fuck your standards and came to terms with my appearance.

Not all white people look the same, "normal" beauty standards are anglo-saxon and we also get shit on when we don't look like the norm. And then these bitches that say we can't be there, we are co-opting the movement because it's like white girls can't possibly be discriminated based on looks and all the crap about cultural appropriation. I have a jewfro right now but I'm not jewish or black. My genes are shitlords, pressing all these people.

Screw these people that act like they have a copyright on hair and genetic features.

No. 26699

>>26698
Fuck, I can't write today

No. 26700

>>26698
Curly hair is so pretty, I'm glad you're coming to terms with your hair anon. It's not fair that you like black people have also struggled with not living up to societal standards of beauty, but somehow are exempt from trying to heal the same way they are because you're not black.

No. 26712

I'm a white girl and I think it's fantastic that there are black women that have started a movement to reclaim their hair and return it to its natural state. It's absurd that you have certain styles, many of them natural, effectively barred from a working environment for being perceived as unkempt.
Can you imagine if they barred or restricted white women's natural hair within their career? I'd hit the fucking roof.

I benefit from the advice myself that's shared and published within these communities because although my hair is fine and long, I have a dry, wavy texture that causes my hair to matt and tangle terribly throughout the day and as a result I'm ripping loads out whenever I attempt to comb it. I've gotten a lot of detangling tips from them and now I don't go anywhere without my tangle tweezer and Aussie conditioning detangler spray.

What I don't like it's when some members of the community spin it around and try to use the community to attack white girls trying to assimilate into black-originated hair trends. You should be able to wear your hair however the hell you want regardless of your heritage, but I understand these people are usually a very vocal minority.

People need to remember that imitation is one of the highest forms of flattery.

No. 26813

It's very strange to me to hear the story that black women are discriminated against for not styling their hair in a deliberately/obviously false fashion.
I work in a retail environment that caters to the image of 'high-end' customers, and there are several other boutiques in the area who have similar clientele. they specifically have policies during job interviews that discourage from hiring black women with obvious weaves or unnaturally colored/styled hair. All of the girls who I work with who are black (and it's the majority in our city) either have kinky/afro hair, or really gorgeous & elaborate braids. no weaves, no straight hair.

No. 26819

>>26813
These days kinky hair isn't that big of a deal. I've never heard of being being denied a job for that reason tbh. Maybe in the 50s yeah…

No. 26823

>>26819
>>26813
U get that it may not happen as much where you guys are, but please don't deny it probably doesn't happen and we're just a bunch of pissbabies.

It happens in schools, workplaces, interviews, even in public. Luckily, I would want to believe this is decreasing as more people with natural hair are accepting it more.
One day when I was in school, I was recommended by my teacher a texturizer brand, and I told her I never want to do anything to my hair.
She then told me I needed it, and it'll make my hair less "unruly".

No. 26892

>>26813
I'm OP here and I have 4A hair and I get ridiculed by my own family even though they are all nappy, the men even more as they dont know how to take care of their hair. 4A is a loose kind of kinky and I have "caucasian" features and even I got really bullied for my hair by white people and asians the most. When I applied for a job I was accepted but they told me to straighten it. So I decided to wear an afro puff and condition my hair so the curls would loosen which really takes a toll on my edges and my hair but I'm not allowed to straighten my hair as I am also semi-muslim (which makes finding a job btw even worse as I have a long weird terrorist sounding name) Was I a black girl they wouldnt even accept me for that job btw, but thats not what this thread is about.

And no blacks arent pissbabies this is why I support the natural hair community, and I am a part of this whether they like it or not. The radical ones need to realize other races can look non-white too and need help with their kinky hair too. And I am thankful they started it so much, african americans fought so much for their rights and I admire them. This is not a thread made to bash blacks, I just wanted to complain about the radical SJWs in this wonderful community.

>>26819
3C or 4A hair maybe not (although people who arent used to curly hair or black people find it just as disgusting) but 4B and up is viewed as disgusting by people who have straight hair, I dont care how many white people say to omg luf curly hair while they mean they want 3B hair. I dont know if you're white or not but you should google 4b hair or 4c hair without twists. Personally I love 4b and 4c hair but it has no love enough yet from other people. But the natural hair community is so strong so maybe in 20 years it will be a trend to perm your hair into 4b/4c!

No. 26903

>>26892
It sucks you go through that but I guess the struggles for black women with curly hair are just different. You said yourself if you were black you wouldn't even have gotten the job.
I mean there are non-Asians with monolids but it'd be weird for them to try to join in on an accepting Asian eyes movement.
Ya can't be apart of everything, yep it's unfair but it's life.

No. 26907

>>26903
I think for many it's not the issue of non-black women reading the websites or buying the products, it's the fear of losing representation in a movement started by and for black women, and tied into issues of politics, race, femininity, standards of beauty, etc that are all involved in a discussion of black women's natural hair. It's an issue that has happened in many other areas, so I think that's definitely valid to consider.

No. 26913

When I aas 12 years old, I dyed my hair black. It was blonde originally, and pin straight, thin as peach fuzz.
Then all of a fucking sudden within a year, not only did my hair grow back brown, but it grew back is a jewfro.
I was the butt of many jokes.

No. 26923

I think natural hair is more of an American issue than it is anywhere else, I live in the UK and there is that many blacks/mixed/godknowswhatelse here no one gives a shit tbh.

No. 26927

Euro children usually have straight soft blonde hair. When they hit puberty a lot will have brown wavy hair. Just look up products for wavy hair, there are plenty in the market.

No. 26928


No. 26935

>>26923
I know a lot of Latinos who have naturally curly hair like that and they despise it/make fun of others for it, and I mean particularly 4b/c hair.

No. 26937

>>26935
That's not curly hair, that's kinky hair to be specific. And they are black latinas.

No. 26958

>>26937
Not all of them are 100% black

No. 26960

>>26958
They identify as afro latina and dont look typically latina at all. Otherwise post examples of such people.

No. 26961

>>26960
Dude, I'm talking about people I know

>>26935
>I know a lot of Latinos who have naturally curly hair like that and they despise it

They don't identify as black because they're not passing but have some features that are associated with black people, one being the hair texture. They straighten it as often as possible.

No. 26969

>>26961
Ohh I guess that's possible.

No. 185905

I've heard countless arguments sugesting that it's not OK for caucasian women to wear protective 'black' hair styles due to the divide in response the difference races get towards their hair.
I'm White I come from a family of straight haired people, I however have course thick curly. My mother had no clue how to style my hair, which was made harder by the fact I'm a tender head, yet still she raked the comb through my hair and broke up all my curls too create lots of frizz. All types of curly hair are more widely excepted nowadays, however when I grew up ALL types of curly hair were seen as messy, unkempt, dirty. I was bullied, told by teachers to brush my hair. The only time I felt confident as a child was when I had my braids in. I knew my hair was in a style that would last…. so more no painful styling, and also felt my hair looked "normal" and less messy.
Now I'm a grown up I love my natural texture however the only styles that hold my hair are 'black'styles. Are you suggesting I should straighten my hair, or relax it because the origins of the styles that work best and protect my hair come from Africa?

That's surely basically what you are all so pissed off with, so why say it to someone else?

I wear braids to keep my hair healthy and to save time in styling…… I respect where they come from and incredibly thankful someone thought up such a style.

No. 185909

I'm Jewish so I grew up seeing shit like the Princess Diaries where having hair like mine was considered a joke, ugly, the "before" to a makeover, or put on stereotyped characters for laughs. So I thought it was cool to see posts online like "your natural hair is fine!" and was shocked to then see the same posts tacked with disclaimers of "and by the way if you're white this post isn't for you because you don't understand what it's like for your ethnic hair to be culturally looked down upon."

No. 185910

>>26423
>in my mind Europe is one big culture
Well maybe in that case you should read a book before spouting shit you know nothing about

No. 185930

>>185909
I'm part Jewish and inherited the jewfro (luckily didn't get the nose…). I totally get what you are talking about. I've noticed the same shit you mentioned and it's like … not all white people have straight blonde hair (which ironically is the style I usually wear my hair, but still).

No. 185948

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I didn't get annoyed until recently i saw a bunch of black girls attacking a blonde girl online for wearing two dutch braids in her hair.. they claimed they where box braids and it was cultural appropriation.. bitch please Europeans have also continued to braid their hair in certain styles

distinguish "Dutch braids" from cornbraids because of the amount of hair that is added with each braid. With Dutch braids only some of each portion of the hair is braided, but with cornrows all of each portion of the hair is braided to the middle of each braid.

No. 185954

>>185930
>>185909
Same, anons. I'm part Jewish myself. I was a preteen with huge curly hair when I first watched that movie. It made me feel so shitty (not only that but i also had glasses and braces so … Yeah. Lol that fcking movie really lowered my self esteem). But when I turned 15 I got my mom's permission to get my hair "relaxed", and fuck, it made me feel so much better… It's been almost 10 years and nowadays I really like curly hair on other people but can't stop getting mine chemically​ straightened​ every 4-5 months.

No. 186163

>>185948
>cornbraids

i read cornbread and now i'm hungry lol. i'm currently wearing a weave for the first time in my life and i really love it. i have absolutely zero against black women/girls who wear their hair natural, because it generally looks really gorgeous. i wish i had the confidence to do it, but i think i look ugly with my natural hair. i also think i look ugly all the time though (lol no self-esteem)

i don't think we should attack other people for wearing braids, but i do understand some of the animosity. i was teased about my hair a lot in school, and that's probably what led to my insecurity, and i think that's what happens to a lot of people who have really curly/kinky hair naturally. but again, i don't think we should be attacking other people for wanting to wear these styles.

btw i'm a mixed girl, but got black hair instead of white hair. my main issue was just that i wanted longer hair in generally, so now i can finally have it.

No. 186242

I think it's manly an americain issue, I'm from France and black people can work in high class business without straightening they hair
( I've seen a black woman with a blond afro working for the Louvre and I also seen a girl with purple and black box braid woking for one of the most high class pastry in paris )

But I notice that a most of girl with curly hair ( even the white one ) straighten they hair, it's why I think the natural hair mouvement is important. Even when girl are not bully about they hairs they still ruin it with heat tool.

I noticed that people are pretty chill about white people wearing black hair style in my city, one week I had box braid without extention and some black and white peoples gave me compliments about my hair . But I remember that a parisian arab youtuber with huge frizzy hair got a lot of hate for wearing box braid.

No. 186248

>>186242
Well, we don't have this whole SJW mess, in France (not yet, at least). People don't care about your hair if it's kempt.
Personnaly, I don't like box bread on people with straight hair but only because I think it looks ugly af. It's going to be a mess of thin hair escaping two days in. bleh.

No. 186251

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No. 186276

>>186251
How many languages are you fluent in anon? Murrican? ''Spanish'' from ordering at taco bell?

No. 186278

What the fuck is up with all these racist ass posts? Did we get invaded by pol again?
Mods pls ban
Ban everyone in this thread
Ban me too

>>186251
>monoglot murrican complaining about a french person's english
>even though you can perfectly understand everything she said

No. 186286

>>186276
Three: Finnish, Swedish and English.

No. 186308

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Only idiots care about this nonsense.

Hair styles aren't unique to a specific culture you apes. Get the fuck out of here. Just read this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreadlocks

Oh whats that? Dreads have been used by people all over the world since ancient times? Oh wait that doesn't matter anymore because its "blak ppplz hair now"

Niggers. Kill everyone in this thread

No. 186312

>>186308
Low IQ bait anon go home to /pol/ please.
Your Zionist president is calling.

No. 186339

One thing that bothered me about the "white people hated this, but now they like this, such hypocrisy" is that it only makes sense if it's the same person that's hypocritical. A race is not a hive mind. A white person can grow up never hating black people and always admiring their hair, and then wants to get braids herself, but then will get shit for it because OTHER white people were racist. Only deal hate if that particular person had been actually been racist, but then wants to claim something from that race as a style.

Had an argument with someone on Tumblr about this because they were calling some Korean celebrity "racist" for having hair that looked like a jerry curl. They said no black person would accept this. I told them I was black and it didn't bother me, and they proceeded to tell me I wasn't "truly" black and it's more than just skin color? What?



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