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No. 2546545

Prev: >>>ot/2116172

>What do you make?

>Where do you sell? Cons, local markets?
>What's the item that sells best/worst?
>Any advice for old and new artists and crafters?
>Somebody tried to scam you? Rob you? Harrassed you? Any horror stories?
>What's something you cannot stand in a con/market? Cringy cosplayers? Rude people? Other vendors being insufferable? Stinky neighbours?
>What's your no-buy list? (ex. you don't buy from people supporting gender ideology, you don't buy from weird, kinky people etc)
>What makes you buy merch or support an artist?
>Share tips! Where do you keep your merch? How do you protect your booth?
>Best social media to share art? Tips? (Please avoid basic stuff like drawing fotm or using tags, we know, we need serious advice)
>For the same reason, drop any resource that you want to share: con guidelines, con prices, booth prices, why you were approved/rejected, which cons are better and which are worse (for staff, people, position etc)

No. 2546549

>>2546217
Nta but what is a ribbon? In my country cons have wrist bands as the "ticket". They're usually made of fabric so they can't be ripped apart and they adjust a metal clamp when you get it so you can't slide it off your hand either

No. 2546631

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>>2546549
Picrel, most cons in the US at least have a physical card badge with a lanyard, and you can stick ribbons on the bottom. It's like a big plastic card with your name and the access type on it (weekend pass, single day etc.) If wristbands are used, they're for adult area access only and the cheap paper kind.
Sometimes at smaller cons they'll have a paper/cardboard pass that goes in a holder, but the overall form is similar.
A lot have your name (or at least a space to write it), but I've noticed that falling out of favor with the more fancy plastic badges. They usually have some nice con related art on them too.
I've seen wristbands like you're describing at festivals, seems more annoying/intrusive for cosplaying.
Badge ribbons are also sometimes used for stuff like disability access, in which case it's something the con gives themselves. But usually they're attendee produced. Some people just sell them, but it's common to have them as rewards for doing a little task or visiting booths (stamp rally etc.)

No. 2546755

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>>2546631
I always hated those lanyard badges! They're clunky and ugly and imo ruins cosplays and outfits because you have to wear them around your neck in an uncomfortable way and taking them off often messes up your hair/wig. They usually only give these to staff and AA/vendors/guests.

The actual "badges" visitors get look like picrel, and it's even kind of a status symbol among some (usually men for some reason) to keep all the old bands and wear them all at once like in picrel to show you're a veteran con-goer. Though this guy cut off all the ends where the metal clamp is, but usually you can use pliers to pull the clamp out a bit so you can take them off/on after the con as a bracelet without having to cut it off as intended.

No. 2546969

Dokomi is three days! What are your expectations (both as an attendee and a seller)?

No. 2546981

>>2546969
Wish I could go! Don't forget lolcow Mikan will be there with her brand, we expect full reports from you nonas!

No. 2546985

>>2546545
>>>/ot/2116172
Here's last thread (description didn't work for some reason)

No. 2547115

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What item do you earn the most from nonas? Do you have a big expensive one like an ita bag that gets you covered if you just sell 1, or do you sell like 500 stickers?

And as a site note, can you nonas please all become artist alley youtubers because every time I google something all I get is this lady and it would be nice to see some varity!

No. 2547139

>>2546755
You can literally tie them to your belt loop or bag. It's more sturdy than a wrist band, and you can take it off to shower, or is that not a thing you do?

No. 2547632

>>2547139
The wristband is fabric, it's equally sturdy to a fabric lanyard.
I think the main issue is that a lanyard can easily be taken off and thus used to let multiple people in in secret who didn't actually buy tickets. It's also easy to lose it if you take it off, or if the lanyard isn't one with clasps that open when you pull It's a safety hazard. On the rare occasions I've seen them at events here you weren't allowed to wear them any other way than around your neck for easy identification.

No. 2547633

>>2547115
Mystery bags, it's just for cheap stickers but kids sure love to gamble kek

No. 2547802

I've sold at a few smaller events but I got accepted to a bigger event and I'm trying to figure out how much merch I should be bringing with me.
>Events I've sold at so far: 2-5k attendees, brought 5 of each print, 10 totes, 30 of each sticker (6 different designs) and I sold out nearly everything each time.
>Big upcoming event: 6-8k attendees
Should I just double everything? I'm scared of being left with a ton of unsold merch, I'd rather sell out. Should I go for variety over quantity? If I bring 20 totes should it be 20 of the same design or 10 and 10 of two different ones?

No. 2547895

>>2547802
Sorry and sage for samefag but I realized I had my amounts way wrong, I had ordered 5 of each print but the printing place sent me 8-15 of each and I sold most of them out during the smaller events. I had 10 different designs. So for the bigger event should I have 20-30 pieces of the more popular prints? That sounds like overkill but I'm having hard time picturing 8k attendees.

No. 2547948

>>2547802
Depends on what your goal is. It sounds like your goal isn't to sell/earn as much as possible, but to sell out. So in that case your normal amount is fine, since you'll likely sell out and thus have reached your goal!

If you had wanted to sell/earn as much as possible you shouldn't be focused on selling out since that just means you're losing out on sales. For example it's possible you could have been able to sell twice or thrice as much of your best selling items at the smaller cons all along, but since you prefer selling out it means you actually have no idea how many of them there are a demand for. It could be that all along you would have been able to easily sell 15, 30, 50 or 100 of them. The only items you actually know the demand for are the ones that didn't sell out, because you know exactly how many you were able to sell of them.

How come you're scared of unsold merch? I love unsold merch because it means everyone who wanted to buy one got to buy it, and I don't have to restock every single item every con. Though I sell some items that have a long production time so it's a big chore and takes a long time to order more of those.

No. 2547960

>>2547948
>How come you're scared of unsold merch?
I'm a really small artist (I only sell original art so that narrows my customer base down to a fraction of that of fanartists) and even though I've applied to 8 cons this year I've only gotten into two. I don't plan on doing this forever either so idk, I feel like the initial investment that I put towards the merch will be completely lost if I'm left with tons of unsold stuff.
You make good points though! I guess for me it's just really hard to approximate which items will sell and which won't so I'm playing it safe by ordering less and restocking every con.

No. 2548013

>>2547115
Who is this? Genuine question

No. 2548124

I'm packing because tomorrow I have my Dokomi flight and I'm scared shitless, nonny! I hope germans can understand my retarded english when I ask for directions. How many of you will be setting up on thursday? And once I finish setting up, can I leave my suitcase with the stock there? I plan to come to the halle, set up and then leave for the day, I hope nothing happens to my stock since I don't want to carry it around Dusseldorf more than necessary

No. 2548127

>>2548013
Mualcaina, she's "famous" because she makes youtube videos about selling in AA. Her art is super mediocre and basic.

No. 2548172

>>2548124
Sorry for no answers, but good luck nona! I've never conned in a different country so I admire your bravery.

No. 2548407

>>2546969
>>2548124
Awesome! I’d love to trade, gift, or buy some merch from some of you beloved Dokononnies, but I don’t know how to recognize a nonny’s booth while trying to avoid any accidental interaction about this thread with a tif/normie kek

No. 2548435

>>2548124
If you get lost don't be afraid to get an uber, they're pretty common in the larger cities and I've never had an issue with them before, also saves a lot of trouble carrying around your luggage. I'm traveling on Thursday, thinking about setting up that day as well!

>>2548407
I don't know how I could signal I am a fellow nona without outing myself besides having no pronouns in my social media bio kek. But I know it's not foolproof.

No. 2548440

>>2548435
Just brainstorming, but maybe an emoji symbol of some sort. A cow may be too obvious. Milk cup? White heart?

No. 2548455

>>2548440
It might still be risky since its possible that self-hating gendies lurk here who will snitch. The same thing happened to the Art Fight nonas in the Art Salt thrread who used a tag to identify themselves and they got banned off the website.

No. 2548457

>>2548455
Maybe nonas can coordinate in one of the hidden boards. It's not foolproof protection, but they are more obscure than the main boards and so probably safer from gendie lurkers to plan out secret codes.

No. 2548727

>>2548407
Of course I wouldn't out myself but let's say that no pronouns on table, no pride merch, no tif like appearance (meaning no patchy moustache, no broccoli hair, no ill fitting tank tops), no random gross shit (meaning no scars, no clearly self hating art depicting self harm, cuntboys or implied cuntboys - tifs do not draw women due to muh dysphoria but of course they love drawing gross looking pussies), no edgy stuff like a 7th grader would do and I guess you already cut out the most obvious ones. I learned that clean looking girls, meaning nice hair, makeup and clothes that are well kept/styled are less likely to be tras because tras love to shock with their appearance but also do not assume that every alt girl is a tra, I'm one before troonism became a trend and I hate how they appropriated goth styles. Look out for what they sell: the last yaoi fandom? There's a good chance that's a tif since they gravitate towards media only for the yaoi appeal, so look out for spokons, mihoyo stuff, male centric gacha, the new thing now is Alien Stage and Love and Deepspace, male kpop group fanarts and such.
On the other hand, look out for women (of course don't shop from males) that sell original art or more obscure fandom, you don't have the absolute certainity that they're not a tra but at least you wont be putting money in a tif's pocket to pay for her shitty testosterone. Avoid the nsfw area, not only it's full of shit art that only got it for having nipples and dicks out, tifs use the nsfw area to go full retard about self harming and yaoi shit and you will also avoid getting exposed to overall gross shit, don't ruin your day lol.

No. 2548729

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>>2548407
>I don’t know how to recognize a nonny’s booth while trying to avoid any accidental interaction about this thread with a tif/normie kek
I'm not going to dokomi, but I think one thing to look for (not just for nonas but secret terfs) is if someone has unnatural dyed hair and alt fashion but not a single troon/gender/pride/pronoun thing for sale (or as decor of course). So
>dyed hair
Because for troons the ones who look like gremlins with dyed hair are never just casual allies, they're always super deep into troonism and feel obligated to have at least a few troon items (and more often they identify as troons). So when someone with dyed hair doesn't do any of it (and we know they're fully aware of troonism from being in those alt spaces) then that's a sign they don't buy into it.
>Harry Potter items on sale
Because they are seen as evil and supporting JKR/trans genocide. I still see several booths at cons where I live with HP stuff on sale which makes me very happy.
>Lizards/geckos
They're the detrans symbol. If you were to see one that just happens to have a message about healing or wearing a bandaid that's likely a detrans seller (who is now peaked and anti-trans).
>Suffragette colors - purple white green
Adopted by terfs, so if you see art that use these 3 as a combo in "feminist" leaning art that could be a sign.

>Cow (or milk) item on sale or as decor

Specifically for lc you could bring a cow plush or toy to subtly keep on your table, or sell cow merch. I think it's easy to make up a lie if anyone asks, like "oh my toddler niece gave it to me haha she wanted me to have it", "I grew up in the country side so it's like a good luck charm" or "I just love stardew valley a lot".
>Azumarill (the pokemon)
It's the terf pokemon according to lc, it's not unpopular but it's very rare to see it. So if you see someone selling basic popular pokemon AND azumarill you know that's a sign they're from lc. Even more so if it's in the punk outfit kek

None of them are 100% accurate, anyone could do any of them but the more of them a seller hits the more likely it is that they're a terf or from lc.

No. 2548894

>>2548729
These are not bad suggestions at all, I will definitely be wearing something related to one of these!

No. 2549021

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I just got my first vograce order! Is it normal to receive a lot more stickers than you bought? I got about 60% more than I actually paid for

No. 2549039

It happens to me as well sometimes. But usually i get 25% extra. How many designs/qty did you order? Was it the same amount per design?

No. 2549080

>>2549039
I did a small-ish order since it's my first time trying them out, so I did some other items (all the right amount) + 100 stickers, 10x10 designs (same size so in the same order) but instead I got 18-20 for 6 of the designs. Wish I could have chosen which to get extras of lol

No. 2549238

>>2549080
Thats really cool nona! Which size did you order? I usually get extras when I order 2 inch but last time I didn't get any extras. I also ordered 1 inch at the same time so that might have had something to do with it. Sometimes I wonder if they fill up blank space on the vinyl with extra stickers but who really knows. Maybe they hooked you up for your first time order!

No. 2549954

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>>2549238
>I usually get extras when I order 2 inch
They were 2 inch stickers! I think maybe you're right that they fill up the space or something, 19 is such an odd number to end up on.

I saw some egg themed art earlier and it made me happy that the egg trend has died kek. Does anyone else remember when everything was eggs? Have you disliked any art trends? Other than troon art because that's a given

No. 2550009

>>2548124
Young Germans will speak English I'm sure you're fine! If you have some time then visit the Immermannstraße in Düsseldorf, it's like a little Tokyo street full of delicious food! Godd lucky nonny

No. 2551161

Wishing all the dokomi nonnies success, sales and dokomilk!

No. 2551236

>>2548727
>>2548729
These are all great points! However, I noticed that some TIF sellers are quietly cleaning up their merch and their appearance since wearing deodorant and normal clothes is getting them more sales, but I'd rather buy from a crypto TIF than a gender gremblino who hasn't showered since 2010.
>>2549954
Any trend, because they're all run into the ground after a week. The worst ones were succulents and coquette.

No. 2551423

>>2551161
>dokomilk
kek love you nona
>>2551236
>I noticed that some TIF sellers are quietly cleaning up their merch and their appearance since wearing deodorant and normal clothes is getting them more sales
I strongly believe those people are close to detransing and are getting bored with troondom. A true troon would never waiver on troon ideology like that. If a tif is clever enough to stop pedaling troonism in her art and appearance to the point she and her art look so normal a terf can't tell she's a tif/pro-trans - then it might actually be a good thing that she's socially rewarded for it. That way she'll realize life is better detransed living in reality VS in a gender goblin fantasy world.
>succulents
I love the plants, but buying basic generic art of them… I guess that's not as fun huh.

No. 2551684

>seeing certain people post booth setups in artist alley discord and knowing there will be a crash-out after the con

No. 2551693

>>2547115
Tired of seeing her booth at cons I go to kek Wish there were better artists being let in.

No. 2551702

>>2551684
oh come on, just spill the tea on who they are

No. 2551706

>>2551423
Oh I agree about the TIFs! I noticed that even when they're squeeing about their husbandosonas with the unkempt TIFs they're pushed to the side and ignored much more than the true bois. Since being part of the community is such a big part of being trans, it's a real wake up call for many TIFs.
Succulents are great but the endless succulent-themed everything got old fast. Especially when it led to idiots killing their succulent hoards through neglect, or when stores decided that spray painting a real cactus and hot gluing a fake flower on it was a good idea.
>>2551684
Watching the drama unfold between an asshole and another group of assholes over the most trivial non-issues is the best part of a con.

No. 2551817

>>2551706
dont be shy nonnie, share some milk with the rest of us

No. 2551946

>>2551706
Share screencaps, they'll never know it was you nona!

No. 2552044

>>2551817
>>2551946
Kek I wish I could but most of the milk is in private messages and I know that at least one of the people involved likes to 'self harm' by browsing lolcow whenever she hasn't had enough attention. I'd definitely be found out.
But the gist of the milk is that A 'stole' a super generic design from B, who is now calling it a hate crime. In retaliation, B is planning to copy A's next con setup and merch and steal all of her customers. B has called in her pack of attack dogs to steal A's ideas, none of which are original in any capacity, and most of her art is traced. One of the attack dogs, C, is now being called out by another artist for tracing her art, which C didn't know about because she was copying A's traced art. Both C and the artist calling her out are literal nobodies with less than 50 followers so sadly I can't even post that milk without someone getting suspicious. B is now panicking and making insane tinfoil posts, then crying in a private chat I'm in about how A is out to get her. A doesn't know about any of this because B is scared that she'll start drama at their next shared con, as she has a history of starting witch hunts and she has the most followers (under 100). Everyone involved in this pointless mess is an adult gendie who sells pastel kawiwi slop.
There are so many other personal cows in these chats, and previous dramas included meltdowns over color palettes of some items being offensive to otherkin, racism and twansphobia accusation wars over a sexy husbando design because no titty scars, and using witchcraft to steal customers. Again, these are grown women.

No. 2552450

>>2552044
Well that's a mess to follow. Firstly, why are you friends with them?
Secondly if you've got proof of them tracing (and also admitting to copying on purpose), compile and use that to submit to people in charge of the artist alley/con you know they're applying to. You can even make a new account to do it "anonymously". Explain how you're a concerned citizen who doesn't think art theft is ok and these people are blatantly doing it and you wanted to give them a heads up so they don't accidentally let in art thieves to their cons. If they then wanna ban/blacklist them or still let them into the con that's on them.
Like you said these are grown adult women who should know better. If they wanna act like childish retards then they have to face the consequences. They give all artist a bad name. The people in charge won't rat you out to them or anything, they likely won't even tell them they're blacklisted.

No. 2552519

>>2551236
>their appearance since wearing deodorant
…..They didn't use deodorant before?

No. 2552629

>>2552519
See the tif-made comic posted last thread in which the tif begged other tifs to remember basic hygiene because they're all sweaty and stinky >>2472321

No. 2552692

>>2551702
Ayrt, sorry she's just some literal who personal cow in my local aa discord, not the main one. She is sharing a booth at a big con this weekend. She always whines about doing poorly and wanting to give up despite seeing no improvements in her art/merch. Last time she suicide baited in the hug box discord about it.

No. 2552796

>>2552692
I'm sure you're not the only one who thinks she's annoying and manipulative. You can always post with names/pfp covered up!

No. 2552859

Did any Dokominona watch Vinas fashion show? I must admit from what I saw on instagram a few pieces looked really cute. I didn't know 6%dokidoki was there too. They really like to visit western cons do they?

No. 2553189

>>2552796
Don't worry nona I will. I post lots of milk in the last thread/artist salt threads when it's interesting kek

No. 2553984

omg anons I am walking arround the booths in hall 3 hesitating to tell you a word to find one of your booth kek

No. 2554376

How is this made, does anyone have an idea where or how can I make something like this?

No. 2554380

>>2554376
To clarify I'm not sure if I would make an anime girl, maybe something like a mascot character or a pokemon would be neat

No. 2554401

>>2554376
hire a 3d printing company

No. 2554418

>>2554376
Imagining having to dust this all the time and transport it around if you moved gives me anxiety, also it looks 3d printed, likely resin

No. 2554438

>>2554401
I wonder how much that would cost?
>>2554418
Tbh just seeing my art in a big format like that makes me feel like it's worth it even if it's only for special occasions

No. 2554603

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>>2554376
Stolen from redshit, 3D printed at home
>"Battledroid was 8 rolls, 20 days printing 10 days finishing, about £200
>Pit Droid was about 2 rolls, 6 days printing, 2 days finishing, about £50

No. 2554608

>>2554603
These two robots have a lot of character imo

No. 2554848

>>2554608
Yeah, but it would be a lot of effort to assemble and paint it all. And also those were 3D models they found online so for your own art you'd have to model/pay someone to model it in 3D for you before you can even print it

No. 2555019

>>2554848
>so for your own art you'd have to model/pay someone to model it in 3D for you before you can even print it
I don't think that's that big of a deal

No. 2555389

>>2555019
Then do it! Though if you're buying a 3D printer to do it that's gonna be a big cost on its own too, and if you're not and try to find someone to print it for you then don't be surprised that the printing and shipping of a human-sized item will be very pricey. It's a lot different letting your own printer run for 20 days than paying someone else to have it run so they can't use it for anything else during that time.

Anyway dokominonas please tell us how your weekend went!

No. 2555785

>>2555389
I saw someone in the artist alley having to take down a print on display because it had nudity in it. (Do people not read the basic rules?) Another artist got told by staff to stop selling their artbook because they put in someone's OC without their permission kek. I wish I could be more specific though.

Personally I sold really well! Even was able to walk around a bit to buy from other artist. Had a good time.

No. 2555890

>>2554376
3D printing. You can purchase 3D printable files from Etsy (maybe other sites too) and them commission a 3D printing company to print it off in the size you want. You'd have to paint it yourself, but if its an anime style like this wouldn't be too hard if you've ever used a paintbrush before. A fanartist in the UK brings a lifesize 3D printed Shadow the Hedgehog to conventions on his booth, I have no idea how he gets away with it because it gives the impression he's actually working with SEGA which of course, he isn't

No. 2555946

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Posted with the caption "feedback is welcome and appreciated" so what do we think nonas?

No. 2555999

>>2555946
I admire the honest cringe

No. 2556070

>>2555946
I would buy the yakuza Pikachu print for lulz

No. 2556075

>>2555946
>1. Nice beginner set up
>2. Art isn't my fav choice, but better than procreate heckin froggos, void cats with round eyes, kirby with knife or funko faces
>3. Wish that were my house

No. 2556238

>>2555946
I don't see any troon items…? And the user does NOT have pronouns in bio in a very pro-pronoun discord so I'm willing to support this artist. It's not my taste, but still different enough that I can appreciate it.

No. 2556374

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Does crochet sell well at artist alleys?

No. 2556390

>>2555946
Looks okay for a beginner at a small market but not big con worthy.

No. 2556425

>>2555946
Nothing really stands out to me…going by it having Naruto, Simpsons, Pokemon 1st gen and the dated rockabilly theme I'd assume it was made by a 30something millenial attending their first artist alley

No. 2556468

>>2556374
Depends on the item, the size, how well made it is, and the price. People need to carry their shit around all day at a con, if it's a bulky or awkward item that doesn't fit nicely into a bag they won't want it. Your picrel would sell but if you're planning on bringing a ton of baby's first crochet projects you might struggle to get rid of them because everyone else will also be selling them.

No. 2556489

>>2555946
>Cute art.
>Nice set up.
>No pro troon stuff
I like her

No. 2556722

>>2555946
i like the art, but then again i am a cringe millenial.
the set up is nice but might look a bit bare if she's at a bigger con.

No. 2557211

>>2556489
>her
It's made by a guy though. Which explains why the setup has literally nothing to it and he still has to ask for feedback and put the mental burden on others for him.

No. 2557226

>>2556374
I think not, usually they're too small and look too homemade or like "I could do that myself" so people don't buy. Keep in mind a lot of people who like artist alley are artists/creative people so if they like crochet they know they can also just download the pattern and make it themselves. It's rare that anyone sells something they patterned themselves even in AA. Crochet rarely has that "personal touch" (or "art style") that automatically comes with drawn art so it can be a tough sell.
And if the crochet items are big they're pretty expensive (takes a lot of material, effort, time so it's a given) and it still looks less polished than just a normal plush does by nature. I personally don't crochet and I know I will never learn it because I have no interest in it, so I have bought a small one of a character I like before.

No. 2557228

>>2556374
Lots of these crochet dolls or parts of them are wholesale from china and the people usually don't make them themselves anymore so trying to compete with that would be hard

No. 2557853

>>2556374
Dolls? Not really. I've bought practical cute crochet items like pouches and coasters though. Just make sure your craftsmanship is good.

No. 2558801

I was an artist at Dokomi, I come from a country where troonism is only popular in underage zoomer girls because they find it cool and holy fuck, it made me realize how troons are shameless. A couple bought stuff from me, if only they knew lol.
Seeing them irl made me realize not only how terrifying they are but also how smug.
>Fried/brittle hair that reaches the shoulder
>Fishnets under stockings
>Crop top that makes their fridge body so clear
>Facemask as if I'm not able to tell that they're men under all of that troon uniform

They were creepy as fuck, of course they don't scare me but damn if they believe that they're passing, their confidence is cute.
Anyway, my weekend went okay, I didn't have any milk to post because I do not interact with other artists but I always got in early to walk around the booths and I was happy to see less and less pride shit and they were less tifs than usual, I didn't hear any frog voices. Of course they won't turn their backs on troonism publicly, but seeing that dying out gives me hope.

No. 2558884

>>2556374
Id consider it if it was an obscure character I really liked

No. 2558928

>>2558801
>A couple bought stuff from me, if only they knew lol.
kek I love it when they accidentally support terfs. I think it's funny that they assume if someone says nothing on the matter they're pro-troon because they really think it's the "standard correct opinion", rather than the reality which is that most people are against it (or even unaware, but would be against it if they knew). Basically they think terfs don't "pass" as non-terfs and that they'd be able to tell.

No. 2558965

>>2558928
They always picture terfs as xoomer women a la JKR and they love to mock the phrase "we can always tell" because they're the ones that come prepackaged in a uniform. I don't need to see a troon flag on a backpack to realize that the guy with estrogen curls and striped socks is deep in gendie shit but they can't tell that I'm against it kek. They're the ones that can't tell. Thinking about it, what made the situation funny with one of them is that he was so obivously and painfully talking in a high pitch voice meanwhile I have a much deeper voice when I talk in english (maybe due to the foreign phonematics) and I had no problem speaking lowly and confidently, meanwhile presenting as a hyper, goth femme with my visible chest (I was hot in there, didn't want to sweat under my neck area, like I care), in fact the thought of making them seethe just by existing gives me infinite power.
Anyway, about the con per se, what was the deal about the bathrooms being, apparently exhibitors only but then everyone could come in and out? Couldn't they pay a random bastard around 100 dollars per day to check the passes?

No. 2559041

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Made me giggle that this woman accidentally made the terf flag too. I know the "genderqueer" flag use the same colors but still funny how shitty this craft is and that she's wasting her time doing it because who the fuck buys a something a 4 year old could make at home? I say all that, but imagine walking up to her table like "oh this one is me!" and paying for it going "thanks for letting me rep the terf flag! I'll tell all my terf friends about you!" as you hurry away and she stares on in horror of what she's done

No. 2559217

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>>2559041
>perler slop AND gendie slop

No. 2559499

>>2547115
I make rosettes where you can attach your favorite character on, they sell well (I don't charge too much though).

No. 2559596

Artist who has never been to an AA, but has thought about getting into them…

How do you guys feel about the ethics/legality of selling fanart? Do you ever worry about your stuff getting taken down for copyright reasons? Because I’d love to sell fanart along with my original stuff, but I’m too much of a stickler about copyright.

There are also some franchises (Minecraft, Undertale, and Genshin Impact) that explicitly allow people to sell fanart.

No. 2559599

>>2559596
Never gone to an artist alley on a anime con that didnt sell fanart, you’re not mass producing and you aren’t gonna get prosecuted.

No. 2559730

>>2559596
Some IPs are very aggressive when it comes to fanart, most don't give a shit because some nobody selling 4 keychains at a local con isn't going to impact their sales. I remember back when artists began to use Vograce and other manufacturers to make keychains, badges, pins, plushes and all that. A bunch of cons had issues with it because the goods looked like official art- regardless of the style or what it portrayed, the item itself looked professionally produced, and at that time (2010s) most people were still selling locally printed fanart and other things that nobody could possibly mistake as being official merch because of how shit it was.
Things are very different now. I haven't seen anyone have an issue with fanart for a long time, but you never know if or when that's going to change. I'd err on the side of caution and have plenty of original art to sell alongside fanart just in case.

No. 2559752

>>2559041
Please buy the terf flag kek

No. 2559780

>>2559596
Kek I sell nothing but fanart without a worry. If you sell at smaller cons (which you should start out doing anyway) there aren't typically brand representatives there anyway which is basically the only way you'd get caught. And even then I've heard stories of staff who worked on a game/franchise who saw and didn't care because they weren't there working and they actually like seeing fanart.

No. 2559839

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some libfem woke they/them female presenting gendie keeps writing cringe posts in the AA discord I lurk, constantly reminding everyone she is in Mexico kek.
Two of the responses to her post about wanting to draw Mexican themed art for artist alley were from handmaidens that didn't want her to "appropriate" their culture. Only one they/them autistic girl said she thought it was ok as long as it is done with love.
What are nonas responses to this? Is it more woke pandering? How is drawing Mexican baked goods any different than all the boba, pocky, lucky cats and weeb art of Azn stuff? This girl is another annoying white knight martyr, typical for American artist alley who can't think for herself.

No. 2559958

>>2559730
>>2559780
Is it weird if it doing it would make me feel bad? My brain tends to obsess over rules, and I feel bad pirating stuff, etc. Though on the other hand I think it would be fun to sell art of characters I like

No. 2560040

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>>2559958
Looked more into this, and it turns out that in the U.S. Funimation has stated they will allow fan art to be sold in artist alleys as long as it does not contain brand names/logos:

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-07-01/funimation-issues-statement-on-fan-art-and-trademark-rights/.89972

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No. 2560259

>>2559839
>"can I draw this culture I live in and have an extremely close bond to because I'm literally married into it despite being white? Also I explicitly have permission from someone from that culture, the culture which I am part of now because I live here, is this racism though????"
Actually so tragic that she still feels the need to ask. Must be a millenial/older zoomer who lived through the entire "cultural appropriation makes you satan" era on tumblr-twitter as a teen.
>>2559958
Try it out with just 1-2 small pieces and see how you feel after that. Remember that if you create the art, it's still YOUR art that you're selling. You're not selling a pirated copy, you're selling original art that just happens to depict a known character.

No. 2560299

>>2559839
>>2560259
by trying to be so uber pc they just create separation and make up offence where there is none

No. 2560333

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Made the mistake of vending at a small con in my hometown that ended up being full of 1000% normies who mostly just stopped by to gawk.
Tons of people!! But only one teenage girl bought any clothes.

People liked my plushes, though!

I had ETC, Angelic Pretty, MILK, and Liz Lisa stuff all from like 40 to 90 bucks.
Tbf, I hadn't been to a con in years. Do people even like that kinda stuff anymore?

No. 2560337

>>2560333
Can't answer your questions but I'd definitely buy the corseted dress. Also pumpkin lady has a great outfit.

No. 2560371

>>2560333
I honestly have no idea about vendors and what's popular there but yeah it helps knowing what kind of crowd go to certain cons. I don't dress in jfashion and only know about it from friends who did, but I remember them not liking to buy at cons because they'd be afraid everything is a dupe.

No. 2560465

>>2560333
Sadly, there is a massive invasion of lost normies at cons. At Dokomi, I cannot count the amount of 40+ years old that browsed the rows and alleys with crossed arms and without stopping by to actually look at booths, to them was like walking around a random event in the city, with the difference that reaching Messe was a 30 min ride and a 40€ ticket. Some people simply are bored and go to random events without being actually interested and people who are interested, mostly shop online. That's why I always believe that this stuff has to be gatekept.

No. 2560487

>>2560465
I don't go to anything as big as dokomi, but aren't the normies just an addition? Like it used to just be nerds and weebs but now it's them + lost normies as the cons keep growing

No. 2560508

>>2560333
>lolita fashion communities are dead
>diehard weebs too broke for cons
>normies not wanting to spend additional monies on whimsy buys after purchasing overpriced con passes due to the economy
It's bad for a lot of vendors but alt fashions seem to be taking extra hits unless they are selling lower priced accessories and trinkets on the side.

No. 2560931

>>2556374
I think most people who really like the look of amigurumi dolls are into crochet themselves, so unless you’re doing something unique with a pattern you designed yourself they could just make it themselves. You might have more luck with wearables if you can think of something that has mass appeal, doesn’t look too grannylike or handmade (difficult with crochet but then again I’m biased as primarily a knitter kek) but also doesn’t take too much time/effort to make. Hats or scarves that (subtly) reference a character or fandom, maybe? I once crocheted my SIL a pair of dragonscale fingerless gloves and apparently she can’t take two steps at the local nerd convention without someone demanding to know where she got them. Make a bunch of those in gender flag colours and rake in the dough!

No. 2560970

>>2560931
>Hats or scarves that (subtly) reference a character or fandom, maybe?
This! It's wild to me that I see AA sellers who think their basic knitted/crochet items will sell. Why would I buy a basic purple hat when I can buy it for a fraction of the price from any store and with a cool logo? At most (and that's still rare) they will have made them in like pride colors (ew). It seems like none of them have realized they could make anime/gaming/whatever references and it blows my mind

No. 2560995

>>2560333
I don't think I have ever bought clothes at conventions and Rufflecon died the one year I was ready to attend it.

No. 2561043

>>2560970
are there "iconic" knits like that though?

now that you mention it, the only ones I can think of are Jaime's hat from Firefly and the Dr Who scarf. but that's super dated lol.

I can think of the red scarf from Nana, but that might be too plain/obscure

No. 2561071

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>>2561043
>are there "iconic" knits like that though?
With that lack of creativity you just have to be one of the knitters kek
sorry just teasing you, but notice how you just jumped to "recreate thing" rather than creating something of your own inspired by media? Sailor Moon didn't wear a scarf, yet this scarf is clearly sailor moon inspired. I NEVER seen anything like this from knitters in AA here. It's literally just the most basic one colored hats or scarves devoid of any creativity.

No. 2561075

>>2561071
This is so cute.

No. 2562088

Where do you order custom tote bags from? Store I used to order them from closed down. Black totes, preferably only 20pcs or so with a white print. Also preferably cheap shipping to the EU. Thanks a lot!

No. 2562341

>>2562088
Pretty much every merch company does totes, google it and see which is closest to you for best results. I use a local company in my town

No. 2562356

>>2561071
I knit, but not for sale or anything, so I was curious what you meant.

it's recognizable, but would anyone even buy it? I feel like it would end up being like >>2560333 where people say wow so cool and don't actually buy anything. I didn't think anybody actually bought those amigurumi crochet dolls either

I think if you had the skills and creativity, you'd just open a regular Etsy store

No. 2562362

>>2562341
Sure but they usually have like 50pcs minimum orders, OR they cost 10 euros per bag to make. I only need 20pcs and I definitely need it to be less than 10e a piece.

No. 2562371

>>2562356
If it's genuinely good enough people will buy it. Selling out of fashion brand clothes isn't the same as selling in artist alley. In AA people care about hand made goods and not about following fashion trends.
>>2562362
That's gonna be hard to find, especially if you want them printed on top of that. Why do you need them to be so cheap? You can sell them for more anyway if they look good with your design.

No. 2562376

>>2562371
Well mostly because I am poor kek but the store I ordered from previously was 6e per bag. I've priced my merch according to that so I would have to raise my prices a lot and I feel hesitant doing that.

No. 2562553

>>2562376
You were probably undercharging anyway then tbh. How much do you sell them for?

No. 2562802

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Went to lurk in the AA discord servers and saw someone was asking about starting their own business. Some replies just spread misinformation so I hope the person asking didn't actually trust their words, couldn't be arsed to correct them though. But the hilarious thing was some enby woman replied
>"I tried it and the fallout was horrible"
and out of curiosity I checked her out and it's literally the lady who made >>2559041 and picrel is her other current art that she sells as mlp commissions. Yeah no shit your art business fucking failed lmfao

No. 2562839

>>2562802
jesus I thought the horse had its eyes closed and was wearing eyeshadow

No. 2562851

>>2562802
KEK can you screen shot her comment and crop the name? Sounds hilarious.

No. 2563319

>>2562553
I was selling them for 12e so a 50% markup which I think is pretty fair. It's cheap for a tote bag for sure but the bags always sold out and I think the low price had a lot to do with it. I'm a small creator with little to no following so I keep my prices lower than my competitors.

No. 2563541

>>2563319
Raise the price to 15 euros at least! It's a small increase in price and your customers probably won't care about it as much as you do. If you feel like it's going to cost you customers you could price them at 18 each and do 2 for 30, you could add a cheap bag charm in the same theme as the bag, you could throw in a free print or sticker with purchase. 12 euros for a tote is way too cheap.
>>2562802
Is this fucking traced? What's wrong with her? It doesn't take a genius to figure out that perler flags and atrocious art won't sell well, this is the kind of thing a 12 year old makes to decorate her room with.

No. 2563602

>>2563319
Well either cut your losses or increase the price a bit and see if it still sells. Don't undervalue yourself nona! Remember that you can always lower the price or make attractive deals to lurk people in later! I sell a deck of playing cards for €35 when the initial plan was to sell it for around €18 but the added production costs really shot up… I was so frustrated because no one was going to buy a €35 card deck! Turns out I was wrong, enough people do buy it at that price that it was worth it. And now if I find a cheaper production method for it I can still charge €35 and know that it will still sell.

Remember that if you sell something for cheap, people assume it's poorly made and they don't value it. If it breaks it was just a cheap thing anyway, who cares. But if it cost more they value it and take care of it more even if it's the literal same bag. They assume the price reflects the production and that it's higher quality. You're just one single person, you will NEVER be able to compete with even a smaller sized store's cheap prizes because they can buy cheap stuff in bulk. You have to value you art for others to value it too. A standard totebag in a store (with like a tacky boring logo) where I live is about €13, which means an exclusive designer tote bag should be at least like €18-20 and will be acceptable for most people. Selling not because people like your work, but because it was cheap is no fun anyway. Unless your goal is to run a store with tacky cheap items, rather than to sell your art.

No. 2563619

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>>2563541
>Is this fucking traced?
The hilarious thing is that MLP is genuinely so easy to trace and draw from like screenshots of the show with minor tweaks and still have it be acceptable by the community and she couldn't even do that. Not only that but her other MLP commissions use the same base, she just changes the hair and recolors it see picrel
>What's wrong with her?
"queer autistic they/she"
She's the type who also buys little trinkets/beads and strings them together to make jewelry. Because the pieces she buys are nice they end up looking pretty nice and I can see people buying that thinking she was the one who made it. She also uses forms/casts so she can say "I made this" even though it's not her design by any means. Most people who sell either make their own trinkets for AA from something like polymer clay, or they design it and order the items from a manu. So she's riding the wave of people assuming she actually made/designed hers too when she's actually just a kindergarten crafter.

No. 2563626

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>>2563619
>She's the type who also buys little trinkets/beads and strings them together to make jewelry.
Picrel to show an example of it, she just bought flowers and rabbits while most AA people make their own

No. 2563763

>>2563619
>>2563626
She's tragic, damn. The earrings are cute enough because she didn't make them but they don't really belong at an AA, they belong at Claires or Aliexpress. I can't imagine her being able to make any money from this unless she exclusively sells at normie-heavy cons with lots of tweens with pocket money to burn. She's definitely not making money from that atrocious art unless it's a pity commission from a friend or her parents. Cons seriously need to start doing better checks on their artists, toddler crafts are insulting to the other artists and cheapen the name of the con.

No. 2563901

>>2563763
>Cons seriously need to start doing better checks on their artists, toddler crafts are insulting to the other artists and cheapen the name of the con.
I agree. I think she can still apply to be a vendor and sell her items there, I'd have no issue with that at all. Maybe cons should expand to have something like "vendor alley" for people like her who mostly want to play shopkeeper but who aren't a big proper business and can't afford a big real vendor spot? But then again that just encourages aliexpress trash being sold so maybe not. But I agree, the real issue is that AA judges let people like her slip through. This is not an "artist" nor a "designer" that should be allowed to come over a real artist. This should be one of the absolute last people you allow in only if there are spots left over to fill up.

No. 2564538

>>2563626
I have seen a lot of this shit in artists alley lately, and they have the audacity to charge $15-20 for them too. Bonus points when they start accusing eachother of "copying" their aliexpress beads and fighting eachother on prices because one person is selling the same items for cheaper aka not gouging. In my area we also have "creator corners" meant for these people but lately they're infiltrating artist's alley.
>>2563319
I agree with other nonnies, dont sell yourself short! Try a higher price point. I think $20 is still a fair, low price.

No. 2564668

>>2564538
>I have seen a lot of this shit in artists alley lately, and they have the audacity to charge $15-20
Yeah the picrel is nearly $16. For plastic trinkets she bought and strung together. How do they keep getting in? Are the judges that stupid that they can't tell or do they pity them and let them get in anyway?
>Bonus points when they start accusing eachother of "copying" their aliexpress beads and fighting eachother
kek true. This kind of people usually are the most aggressive about accusing others.
I have so much more respect for the "small shop owners" who sell their crafts in the actual vendor halls.

No. 2565139

>>2564668
>picrel is nearly $16
If any nonnas in this thread are handwringing over charging a few pennies more for their work, this is your sign to increase your prices. Shamelessness clearly sells.

No. 2565529

ok nonna confessions time, confess your AA related stuff.
My "sin" is that I put extra care in keychains, I try to make them extra appealing but I don't have this standard for prints and I would never hang a print of my own at home, even if I do only stuff that suits my tastes and no fotm. I can't seem to put the same care but it's not something that I do consciously, idk it's weird.

No. 2565670

>>2565529
I take pics of ugly art in AA and send to my friend group chat and we all make fun of it together (they do this too)

I act fake nice to shitty artists and even compliment their work. I'm two-faced like that kek but I don't see it that way, I genuinely want and hope for them to improve (unless they're terrible people like gendies) and I'm happy for them if they do. It's like making fun of a kid for acting stupid with other adults when the kid can't hear it, but praising them and wanting to encourage their strong points when they can hear.

No. 2565698

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How the fuck do SO many people get away selling Sonic fanart full time? A lot of it is copied from the model as well. This is literally just that Chiiwara thing but as Sonic. On top of it, how are there entire fan run Sonic conventions, with artist alleys full of fanart for sale, and Sega does nothing?

No. 2565709

>>2560040
Funimation doesn't even exist anymore and was bought by Crunchyroll

No. 2565712

>>2565698
Why should they? Just like with any fanart, it’s free advertising. Sonic in particular is a pretty old and really fan driven fandom that has been that way for decades so it wouldn’t be worth it for Sega to burn all that goodwill and a dedicated fanbase that’ll buy any Sonic stuff, official and fan-made

No. 2565714

>>2565712
Logically no franchise should be sending out takedowns but a lot do. So why doesn't Sega?

No. 2565722

>>2565698
sega has always been extremely lenient with fanworks, they even hired fangame makers to make sonic mania a couple years ago

No. 2565725

>>2565698
Where can I buy this plush????

No. 2565793

>>2565698
Seems like it's one of those cases where they just pretend not to see it and purposely don't look at all. They know they're not actually losing money on the fanart and that it's good for them to get free advertising. But it is a potentially dangerous line to walk for them because if someone infringes on your copyright and you don't act to stop it you can actually legally lose your right to it. It's why big companies sometimes out of nowhere sue a kindergarten for drawing their characters on the walls. If it's brought to their attention they legally have to fight it even if it's benign.
My guess is they've decided to make their lawyers avoid fandom places fully and only look at the regular market, wheras normally they'd look everywhere by default.

No. 2566166

At cons, the last day, if I see women with daughters I always gift them something. Only to them.
I'm not gifting stuff to male children (they're not gonna take care of it anyway) or men relatives, they get entitled. I always had nice and cute interactions with mother and daughters and I was happy to make them smile with a little trinket that a girl is gonna put on her bag/phone than men that walked to my booth and said stupid shit like "And you sell these? And people buy it?? I mean it's nice but do you REALLY sell this? I find it weird but okay!"
always there to give their retarded opinion, shut up.

No. 2566537

>>2566166
Do they actually say that? Rude, just shut the fuck up if you don't like it

No. 2566634

>>2566166
You're a sweet person, and you're making so many girls' day. Moids need to keep their worthless opinions to themselves.

No. 2566772

>>2566537
The worst breed of lost normies are the lost dads, from 40 to 60. They don't understand shit about cons, treat you like a retard because again, they don't understand and try to make you laugh with them while they make fun of you. These old men can't grasp the concept that not only that space is not for them, so no shit that they don't understand, they belittle anything artistic because they see everything as useless and I mean sure, a plastic charm is not a life changing item but it adds flavour, moids don't grasp this concept at all. They also often drag their mostly male kids around to stuff that THEY like because they're obsessed to raise mini-mes so to them cutesy stuff is stupid. If they happen to have a daughter and they stop at my con, they ask me if that's really my job and why do people shop from me like the fuck would I know? Why do you even care? Do you know where you are?
The sweetest interaction was with a shy girl and her mother, I didn't speak their language because it was an oversea con and I simply said "Hey" and gave a pink charm to her all pink girl, the mother grasped english and said "Ohh, thank you!" and the girl looked at it with a big smile and then looked at me. I want them to have a nice time at cons and have nice memrories, that's all I care about for little girls and a five to ten dollars profit less doesn't change my life at the end of the day but they will remember. I want to see them happy, really, because I remember all the nice things that adults did to me when I was little and girls deserve it but since the world is rotten, I always do it in silence or I only talk about it in spaces like this thread because I know that people are bitter in AA discords/threads and either will call me a pickme of some sort or they will start doing it too for clout. I don't care for clout, I really just want to leave a nice memory to little girls.

No. 2567205

>>2566772
>The worst breed of lost normies are the lost dads, from 40 to 60.
Out of all the people I know who "don't get it" it is a dad exactly within that age bracket kek. Even old pensioners tend to go "that's nice dear, have fun with your little projects" in a mildly encouraging way.
>they don't understand and try to make you laugh with them while they make fun of you.
I wonder what would happen if you played along like "haHA yeah it's so shit and these gullible people actually buy it, can you believe it?!" is that what they expect?
Maybe when they start asking question you should start acting fake nice with a touch of condescending (like talking to a child or tard) like "Oooh this must be your first con huh?" Laugh at his question like "haha oh you thought people do this for a living? It's a hobby, apart from the pro-artists of course but that's obvious. You can just go talk to con staff if you feel a little lost about it and they can help you learn about it"

No. 2567269

>>2567205
Yeah I could do it but I simply chose to not to talk to men, when kids shop from me and they have a dad to the side I only talk to the kid, also to build their confidence since I've seen dads going "Noo, don't buy this! Buy THIS!" like mister please, shut your sewer mouth. When men get closer to my booth I simply look at them to let them know that I can see them but I don't talk. They buy something? Cool. They don't? I wont waste my time. They ask stupid shit? They get confused looks, I try to make them feel out of place because that's what they are. The gentrifications of cons made these fuckers think that cons were a family event, techinically they are, but it's not the Sunday Market, they believe that they can do what they want because it's a market for comics right?? It's something stupid, so you can treat everyone as stupid because you're older and the girl that sells kawaii keychains doesn't know any better, ahah!
I wish cons would become uncool again.

No. 2567293

>>2565793
>if someone infringes on your copyright and you don't act to stop it you can actually legally lose your right to it
No, only if someone infringes on your trademark. See >>2560040

No. 2567355

>>2567293
Oops, i'm esl so mix up terms in English

No. 2567360

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Nonas what's your personal opinion on this type of standees? Do they sell in your country/your local cons?

I personally don't quite get the appeal, they're like way worse figurines to me. They're not super common around here but I see a few here and there. I feel like they're better as a table mascot trinket/advertising than for actual sales.

>>2567269
>Yeah I could do it but I simply chose to not to talk to men
Based, I support it kek

No. 2567376

>>2567360
I don't buy standees and I did one one time and it didn't sell at all lol
I agree, it's cute as a mascot, mainly with ocs, make them stand there and they decorate the table nicely but I don't make them because I don't think I'll find the right demographic for them

No. 2567397

>>2565670
If you still got any of them photos slide them here or the bad art thread on /m/

No. 2567416

>>2567360
I'd only make them to include in a board game as player figures, otherwise they feel incomplete

No. 2567427

>>2567360
I like santdees but i only buy officials.

No. 2567428

>>2567416
>I'd only make them to include in a board game as player figures
I was thinking the same! But then I realized they're too big, the board would have to be huge and smaller player pieces are better. I dream of one day making a board game though!

No. 2567444

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>>2567360
I'm an eurofag if that matters and I really like them. I really want to have some and display them nicely maybe with light or on different levels but I feel like they're also rather expensive for what they are. I really want a standee from one of my favorite musicians . Hizaki. But it's expensive and the online store doesn't ship to gaijins.

No. 2567493

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>>2567360
I actually love these little standees. Basically they are great for flat packing in your bag and then you can pull them out and set them up so you can oshikatsu/otakatsu with your otaku friends when you go out to eat together. They are safer to take out in public because they won't get broken unlike an actual 3d figure, they also take up less space than a plushie.

Picrel is a woman I follow who shares otakatsu pics with her friends and they like the same pairing.
>This is yesterday's after party meat!!
>I want to have another Jun/Hiyo after party

I've actually otakatsu'd with my friend in restaurants and bars with plushies where we even got approached by people who asked if we sell the plushies we had out, it was so cute. I'd love a standee though because a plushie could easily become stained where as standees are pretty standard wipe-clean.

No. 2567512

>>2567493
I assumed they're more likely to be broken, not less likely. I've never bought official acrylic stands because you can very easily accidentally ruin the paint and the illustration can be ruined. I bought a big keychain like that of some Clamp characters and there are holes on their heads and chest because the paints was just plastered on the back of the acrylic. I bought two smaller ones in a con in Europe later and the artists didn't make that same mistake so I can take these charms/keychains anywhere. I made the mistake of buying cheap ones in a collab cafe in Japan later and these ones have the same issue, the paint can come off very easily if you're not careful. In an event in Japan I was gifted one after purchasing a doujinshi that was more bigger and more solid so I can assume official ones aren't as good on average.

No. 2567716

>>2567512
Ayrt. Personally I put my standees in a little resealable plastic bag and then put that in my crossbody bag's phone pocket with a zip since I carry my phone in my trouser pocket. It preserves them well! The ones I bought were officials so I've been extra careful, meanwhile the keyrings I bought from cons have been holding up pretty well clunking against my bag kek. I also live in Europe btw. I wonder if collab cafes differ in quality? My standees are actually from a special edition videogame box with photocards so I wonder if they spent out for that or something. The quality of standees is something I never thought about before until now. All I know is "never allow them to touch tape" because it transfers the design off.

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>>2567444
ayrt and I'm also a eurofag, I was under the impression they were more of an american thing, or asian since they're typically produced in china and I've never seen anything like it offered around here (like in normal shops)
>>2567493
>you can pull them out and set them up so you can oshikatsu/otakatsu with your otaku friends when you go out to eat together.
Ok that'd kinda cute kek I'd prefer a plushie but I think that inherently looks more childish to rude strangers and I don't want them to get dirty… I can see it as a decent compensation.

Follow up question to those who like standees! What style do you prefer? Photo, full-size anime character, or chibi? Clean character or with backgrounds?

I always imagined if I ever got one it would have to be a big stylized one, basically in place of a figurine. Now that I think about it perhaps it's also a good decor item for kids, so they don't ruin an actual collectible figurine. But idk if they'd care though, they'd probably be disappointed they can't play with it as a toy the way they could with a figurine huh

No. 2567751

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Hows the AA @ Japan Expo?

No. 2567771

>>2567727
The small chibi ones remind me of this one time me and my siblings printed out some random ocs on deviantart, cut them out, glued them to popsicle sticks, and played with them as paper dolls. I assume if the small acrylic stands were sold as a set with many characters for cheap and for children it would be similar.

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>>2567771
Dropped a photo of something similar

No. 2567804

>>2567771
I actually think selling a DIY cutout set of characters like that for kids would sell better, makes it a little crafts game for them too

No. 2568707

>>2567716
>I wonder if collab cafes differ in quality?
They're mostly like the official ones you can buy in Japanese store. Some are randomized, the bigger ones usually aren't and you often have a purchase limit so insane people and scalpers don't buy a collab cafe/store's entire stock. That means the illustrations are printed directly on the back of the stands or keychains and you have to be a but careful with tape and zippers.

No. 2569291

Requesting more posts of booth setups or best/worst sellers again so we all can judge them together!

No. 2570242

I think that the market should be more exclusive and have some criteria like:
>Fanartists need to have basic anatomy and rendering skills. Let's stop with the tiktok monstrosities that have no linework but pretty lights and twinkles
>Original art/projects gets a pass but only due to the original ideas and the artistry of creating
>Branding artists (the kawaii sloppers and the quirky animal sloppers) should be limited at max 3-4 per category. 3-4 kawaii sloppers, 3-4 funny animals, 3-4 shitty humor and such.
Right now I feel that the market is so over saturated, it made everyone believe that they can do it with no effort and I think that the more more people race for a space and a booth, the more it will look awkward when the inevitable fallout will happen. I use cons to advertise my art, mainly, I do not consider it my main income despite making good money because it's so unstable and you constantly have to live on fomo if you want to maintain that money and the fandoms come and go, but as every other big trend came and went, I'm afraid that once cons will stop being cool among normies and the old school losers like me will have a family and will be deeper in adult life, no one would browse artist alley not because they don't like it but because the hype will be down. People move on and putting this stuff in a such high position is gonna make it fall harder. Artist Alley booths need a lot more soul to it, I can count on my hand the booths that I saw at Dokomi that carried actual soul and art without soul and care is no more than a shein product. Pretty but low quality, shit manifacturing and will look awkward in a few years.

No. 2570254

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And you're surprised? Absolutely hideous, Sonic is already simple, why shittifing him?

No. 2570262

>>2570254
His eyes make him look like he's about to stab me through the screen. Sonic is supposed to be a cute and fun mascot character from a video games series for kids so his design is already simple enough, simplifying it even more backfired.

No. 2570284

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>>2570254
This looks like a bootleg you'd buy oh Aliexpress kek. Why are some artists in the AA allergic to making genuinely appealing designs? It is possible to simplify him even more in a cutesy way, picrel is proof of that.

No. 2570335

So nonnies, I want to make enamel pins. Any advice? I keep getting confused with all the options and guidelines, like soft enamel, hard enamel, maximum of colors and such. I just know that I want them decent looking (like they havent been filled with the paint bucket in mspaint) and maybe if I can do small batches? I'm afraid to do a whole batch and fuck up something and considering the cost, it's not something I would go blind. Please tell me your secret to nice pins.

No. 2570343

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>>2569291
I dont know or care about these people I just found them on my IG explore tab last night. (Couldn't post due to 500 error msgs)
>unique displays
>not cluttered
>mascot looks nonbinary
>generic circle eyed void cats

No. 2570346

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>>2569291
>unique at first glance
>cluttered and messy baskets
>art is mid
>can't see prints in the 1ft "fast food drive through" window

No. 2570351

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>very cool displays. I love the awning
>organized set up
>art is consistent and stylized, but unfortunately looks too copy/paste and cheapens the overall vibe

No. 2570375

>>2570254
I can't stand this girl. I know selling fan merch is popular but everything she does looks so uninspired to me. Even the faces aren't original, I assume this idea was taken from Ditto. She always has walls of merch, of every character, of every flavor-of-the-month thing. Zero personality.

No. 2570405

>>2570346
>tote bags $12 each
weren't we just having this discussion? kek

No. 2570457

>>2570254
I'm a huge sonic autist with a soft spot for weird, bootleg looking merch and I would not fucking buy this if it were $1. Its ugly, weird looking and feels like when moids make gross, unfunny newgrounds flash animations of shit like sonic and LOZ

No. 2570597

>>2570242
You should start your own AA and be the judge and select other judges who you trust to follow those rules.
>>2570375
>I can't stand this girl.
Same. Devoid of any creativity whatsoever. She had the power to make ANYTHING and yet she makes nothing but funko pops, but worse.

No. 2570632

>>2570335
Sorry not an answer, but same! I'm interested in making pins but idk what the best process is for it.
>>2570343
I don't hate it, but I feel like it's missing something? Or maybe it's because there's so much flat stuff on the front of the table that makes it look cluttered to me or something?
I know they're common but imo those dish racks for prints is a bad idea, it's better to display them in such a way that they're all visible (like how the sticker sheets are). Most people just won't bother touching the prints to see what's behind.
>>2570346
>First thing I saw was the demon with titties pad, so kinda ew
>Prints badly displayed
>Buttons badly displayed
>Stickers slightly better display, but still messy
>Building a dark corner was a bad idea, the lamps are clearly too weak
>>2570351
A bit flat and same-y, but still very nicely organized! The art is too flat and boring though. Much like the ditto-sameface girl, this one is just like one step above it.
>>2570405
But the ones in >>2570343 are $30! And that's just white lines on a black tote!

No. 2570844

>>2567269
Giga Stacy

No. 2571274

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>>2567360
>>2567376
>>2567427
>>2567444
>>2567493
>>2567727
I only buy standees from the Artist Alley if the character design appeals to me otherwise I don't.

No. 2571414

>>2570335
>>2570632
So, it's been a while since I've made some pins, and I made some pretty complex ones (soft enamel + print; crazy experience). But I'll give you a run-down to get you started and I'm sure others will chime in:
1. If you absolutely can, try to do your own vector art. You don't have to do this, but if you can, hand vectorize your picture. If not, make sure your lines are crisp and defined so that the manu can process it for you.
If reason why I suggest learning how to do your own vectors is so that you have more control over the piece before it goes to the machine. It's not necessary, especially for a beginner or someone who's never done vector art before (or doesn't mind letting someone else handle it). But if you've got the skill, use it. I remember the thinnest lines were about 0.02mm which was nice for lacework/filigree effects, but ask/check with your manu. Otherwise, with raster, they'll handle all of that for you.

2. Get familiar with Pantone colors since that is what they use. You don't have to invest in a book in the beginning unless you find it on the cheap (or, better yet, paint swatches), but at least refer to a color palette/RGB/HSV values of a close-enough color. There is a cost per color. It's not much, and it may be only extra after a certain number of colors depending on who you work with. My personal rule is to stay around 2 or 3. More colors means lower grade. Stick to solids. You can also use gradients for screen effects, which is also extra. If you want to use glitter or glow in the dark, ask what they have for you to choose from.
You can also do transparent effects by setting those Pantone colors to an opacity %.

3. As far as MOQ, remember that your main cost will be with the die. As long as you pay for the die, most places are happy to give you 1. For a very rough example, your die may cost you $75, and 100 pins might push it to $95. Or one pin is $10, so you're paying $85. It scales. They keep the die for a while, too.

4. Enamel types: Understand that some effects for some companies are only available with soft enamel. Soft enamel allows for pantone-colored metal. Hard enamel is more cloisonné / jewelry-like flat look. You can also have a clear enamel over a soft enamel to create a domed effect (This style can utilize printed pins). Not every manu does the same thing and does a thing better than others, so just ask/mind their portfolios.

5. I have no idea how things are right now, but try to find a place where you can work direct with the factory and not a middleman. At least with the factory, you won't have an agent who changes heads. This is tough and time consuming, but it's worth it if you find a good factory. That's not to say a middleman working with a cluster of factories is always bad, but the closer you can get to the people making your stuff, the better.
Extra: If you do manage to work directly with a factory, always remember that these are artisans on the other side. Show respect; many of them have been doing this for decades. The last factory I worked with had historical roots to cloisonne and actually offered it. (Which is overkill for most fanmerch, but it was cool) Treat them right, and they'll treat you better.

6. Don't be afraid to collect pictures of pins with styles you'd like to have. Showing is always better than telling. You can make a stylesheet/mood board to break down what you want, too, when requesting a quote with your finished art.

7. It's nice to make a little mockup. Printing out the actual size and getting an idea of where you'd like the pins to go + how many is good. They can place it, but you may have aesthetic preferences

8. Just like how you sign your artwork, it's nice to make a branded hallmark to go on the back of your pins. It's extra for some factories, but it's worth designing and doing.

That's a lot, but that's about all. The vector step is especially optional. As long as you can get something defined and crisp to send them, that's the best starting point to keep it looking like it was a converted MSPaint image.

No. 2571557

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>>2570632
I like your reviews, here are some more i found on Twitter kek

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No. 2571561

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No. 2571564

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>pvc pipe actually has color
>unique keychains that arent just clear acrylic
>art is too kpopfujo but still nice and presentable

No. 2571672

>>2571561
>>2571558
Are they selling art of their self insert characters? Kek

No. 2571707

>>2571274
You replied to all those post just to say "i only buy thing if i like it" like that's not the absolute base level for buying anything lol like who's gonna go "personally I mainly buy art I find repulsive, but sometimes I branch out and buy something with a design that's mildly infuriating too"

No. 2571788

>>2570242
I wish cons had rules like this. I hope cons go out of fashion with normies soon. I also hope that making zines, artbooks, comics and anthologies becomes more popular, it's difficult to make a long term project that doesn't have some soul.
>>2571414
NTA but thank you nonna, that's great advice!
>>2571560
It's almost cute but the doughy Tumblr bodies and wonky faces ruin it.
>>2571564
I love the CD keychains, that's such a cute idea!

No. 2571790

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Sorry for my wall of text table reviews lmao
>>2571557
This kind of setup is totally ok, but it's not great. Thinking of the table like a composition, this is just a an alphabet poster or a food menu. By which I mean the main table items are the same sizes and listed in the same way in neat little rows. There's nothing to guide your eye around and it's instead a bit overwhelming.

It's also seemingly fully "menu-serve" and no "self-serve" at all. Self-serving is always superior because people get attached to items they pick up and touch and are thus much more likely to buy, but the risk of stealing is always there. So a happy medium is to at least have cheap items like stickers as self-serve, because it allows the customer to touch them and if they steal some you only really lost pennies from the low production cost of stickers.

There's also no personality to this table. Logo on a black background? Groundbreaking. But on the other hand if you want to stay "anonymous" that's not bad.
>>2571558
This one has a lot of personality. Cohesive and uses the most popular table color of pink, but paired with the unusual green it still stands out. Also matches the words in the name "melon + mint" so all around good branding imo.

This is a very good table setup. The items are varied and at different heights, browsing guides your eyes all around it and the amount of items aren't overwhelming. The stickers could be sorted better (with less overlap), but because everything else is so neat that's not really a problem because it's contained to such a small area (and not everywhere like >>2570346 where you'd have to big into each and every basket to find anything).
>>2571560
Tumblr art lol
The sales window is too small AND they block it with a big gachapon? Not great, but the tables look tiny so I get it. Putting the smallest keychains at the top is a bad position choice, you want them close for people to see them better, and the biggest items on top so people can see them from afar and get lured in. I'm not a fan of pre-shaped items like the heart-shape stickers or round buttons (nor the tumblr style) so the art isn't for me.
>>2571561
Another good table imo. Cohesive color branding is always sweet. Good variety of items and using things like wooden pieces to display your plastic items makes them seem more "natural" and not just "cheap plastic trash". I'm a sucker for floral decor. I like how the display of the keychains is clearly labeled "chinese zodiac" so people don't just go "hmm idk that show so better not buy" not realizing it's original designs.

And to tie in >>2571672 comment about them selling OCs, I thinks so and I support it! If they can make a brand of their character then good for them. If hello kitty can do it why can't they? But it's also often likely they have more content tied to them, like it could be a vtuber design, their webcomic or fiction they write etc. So it's not always "just" an OC. I think it's smart to get fans/customers attached to a character you make. Use that OC autism to your advantage!
>>2571564
Half decent, small displays are hard to make good. Too much of a mismatch of colors for me. Bright yellow mixed with muted/pastels mixed with cardboard mixed with thin stripes mixed with checkered pattern mixed with waves… what's the vision exactly? Imo the colors also do NOT go with the items/theme. I expect the items to be kinda trashy or wacky (think tif bug/bugself art kek), but then it's actually quite cute. But the item layout isn't terrible, having the "touchable" items at the bottom and prints at the top is good.

No. 2572635

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>>2571790
I read every word! I appreciate your eyes and perspective. It's interesting seeing how a display can really tie everything together.
Do you have any examples of 6ft tables with a large variety of items, without looking cluttered? I am at the point where I outgrew my 6ft table but don't have enough merch for a 10x10 booth.
In picrel, is the keychain wall behind the shelf on the left side too out of reach for self-serve on the back panel?

No. 2572639

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>>2572635
Samefag, this booth is full, lots of options but still extremely organized and easy to follow, for me at least. I dislike using plastic grids because its time-consuming and the plastic connectors suck, but i haven't found a better solution

No. 2572930

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>>2572635
>Do you have any examples of 6ft tables with a large variety of items, without looking cluttered?
I think that's tricky, and it's going to depend on what kind of items you have. One option is to simply limit what you actually put up on your table, maybe you don't need to show every single item at every con. If you have a lot of items it's always going to be some level of clutter to it, but there are ways to make it easier to browse. In picrel the variety of items have different colored backgrounds/shelves so that you can easily see items. You can easily see that keychains are on the board with holes, the frog plushies are on the shelf at the front, the pin board is green, stickers displayed on wood so you can see them and they're also self-served in front so you can grab them yourself. Each thing has it's own little section, it's easy to see where one ends and the next begins. See how in your good example >>2572639 it's all the same blue/white board for everything on the walls so you aren't drawn to anything in particular. It's using the space best they can for that large amount of small items, but it's not as clearly thought out as my picrel and imo would benefit from having more defined sections for items. But it's miles better than the garbage crates in >>2570346 so I'm not saying it's bad!

And more about making sections, for a kinda bad example of it look at >>2570343 see how they put a giant board as the center piece. But the board really just cuts the whole table in half AND is underused. It steals the attention but then there's barely anything on it, the items could be fit on half the board. So as a result it's like the board is screaming "look how empty I am" and the other items kind of blend into the black background. Subconsciously you kinda have to pick a side to browse, and going to the other is a chore.

>is the keychain wall behind the shelf on the left side too out of reach for self-serve on the back panel?

Judging by the grid boxes it's about 2 grids in, which I think is about the maximum length for self-serve. It's not the best, but if it's the only option it should be reachable for most people. Though kids might need help. It's also a good option if you're worried about people stealing them as it's harder to steal if they have to reach a bit. So it's one of those things where you should consider the crowd, are there lots of little kids or have you heard a lot of artists complain about people stealing at that con etc. Plus if you do longer hooks that stick out they'll be a bit closer to grab too.

No. 2572965

>>2572930
I really love the honest feedback nona! The critiques on these booths give me a lot to consider when displaying my items for my biggest con of the year coming up.
>maybe you don't need to show every single item at every con
You're right. I think my solution ultimately is either to get 2ft more space or downsize designs. I had an 8ft table recently which helped so much but that never happens.
I have been hitting my sales goals lately by only displaying my best and new sellers. For less popular designs I keep them handy which has still helped. When people asked for a character in a different option (say a pin instead of keychain) and I actually had it, they asked to see what else I had and it got me $30-$40 extra on top of what they already bought. I try to remind myself this is just my hobby but I get fomo sometimes and people genuinely like buying my products so i try to have a happy medium.
>kids might need help. It's also a good option if you're worried about people stealing
my art is cute and colorful but they actually don't care for it KEK. Parents want to buy my stuff for their kids but when they ask them if they want anything, the kids typically scrunch their faces up and shake their heads with a strong "no" and shyly hide behind their parents or run away. It's hilarious and doesn't offend me because the parents still usually buy for themselves anyway. I have honed in on my target audience and carry items that suit adults' practical needs and items that can function at work or in their daily life. This year i switched my self-serve sticker display to being on my second tier instead of the lowest part of my table. It prevents kids from touching them for the sake of it and them messing up the display. I havent had a helper this year so I cant tidy up when I get busy. Stickers are my best sellers and most profitable item so keeping them eye level and out of reach has surprising effective!  Thankfully I don't think anyone has stolen from me either and it isn't a concern of mine. I will always prefer self-serve because it's easier for everyone and I don't have to talk as much kek. Thanks again I love the reviews!

No. 2573171

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>>2572965
Glad you enjoy it! It's a bit cathartic to get to judge booths because in the AA seller groups I'm in the only acceptable feedback is ass kissing so people post their terrible tables that literally do everything wrong and I desperately want to point them in the right direction but I'm not allowed to be. Some of them are tifs who have like 5 badly drawn titchop sonic drawings on a flat table and a plastic box of perler art going "is this a good setup?" and people still going "yasss king" and it's just painful to see it kek
I think it's really beneficial and helpful to judge tables because it allows you to see what works and what doesn't, and I personally find it fun.
>I have been hitting my sales goals lately by only displaying my best and new sellers.
>I have honed in on my target audience and carry items that suit adults' practical needs and items that can function at work or in their daily life.
That's fantastic! My favorite items are often ones I know I can/will actually use. It's also just a hobby for me but I still find it fun to see how far it can take me. I'd love to have a little online shop one day, I don't need to become a big brand I just want to share my art with those who like it. Some people play chill cozy farming or crafting games to relax, I feel like I'm doing it irl with my art and making packaging and signs and in the end I actually get some profit too.

No. 2573469

>>2572639
This is easy to follow because of the contrast between the background and the items on display. There are so many booths where the main color of the setup is the same color as the items and it's impossible to see anything.
>>2572930
Oh I love this one! It's a unique theme and setup and the kawaii plant/frog art looks so much more appealing than it would on a pastel pink table.
>>2572965
If your target audience is adults that might be why you haven't had an issue with theft.

No. 2573550

Being nice and helping an artist with a design only for them to turn around like "I'm gonna turn them into pride colors!" sigh, time wasted
>>2573469
>It's a unique theme and setup and the kawaii plant/frog art looks so much more appealing than it would on a pastel pink table.
People definitely undervalue matching their art to their booth and just go with generic pink/Blue too often. My favourite booths all have a "theme" that makes them memorable. I love the wood + green and would love to do it myself but idk if it realistically matches my art the best… maybe i should start over and only draw art matching my favourite theme so I can use them lol

No. 2575220

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Kek what did she expect asking 35 dollar for 2 magnetic keychains of poorly drawn chibi fotm slop?

No. 2575221

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>>2575220 She also charges 20 dollar per keychain for this type of quality. This is just delusion.

No. 2575263

>>2575220
I mean it is rude buuut… >>2575221 sure ain't worth 20 dollar to many people. It's incredibly generic, uninspired and lacks artistry. Nothing about it makes it worth buying over generic real brand one piece merch. There's no spin or personal take on it so why even be upset? It's not like her artistic vision was criticized, because there is none.

No. 2575281

>>2575220
>>2575221
These artists need a reality check outside of their hugbox communities. In what realm are those prices fair for that quality. The art is ugly with flat boring colors. These "artists" are so uninspired. These reactions should be a wakeup call.

No. 2575631

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Thoughts and opinions?

No. 2575636

>>2575281
I mean, doesn't it depend on whether or not they sell? if they don't then that's the wake-up call rather than people being snooty about it.

No. 2575640

>>2575221
Not trying to defend them because the art is pretty ugly but it looks like these have an epoxy layer which people tend to charge more for since it costs more to produce. I've noticed that certain AA groups have sort of "standardized" pricing for things (i.e the going rate for doublesided keychains tends to be 12-15)

No. 2575682

>>2575631
Really don't like the art, but the display looks professional and clean. I just think the pastel pink and the products don't contrast enough, especially with the notebooks

No. 2575700

>>2575631
I kinda doubt that's "everything" that didn't sell of hers. But idk maybe she's popular on tiktok or something? Racebend tumblr style Miku not selling isn't exactly surprising

No. 2575762

>>2575631
i want to know the name of the song, it's cute… that aside, sometimes it shocks me how much inventory some artists have when you see their art and it's so bad. people like this genuinely need to be told they need to learn to fucking draw something that looks nice. or don't, less competition for me kek

No. 2576024

>>2575631
Song is "give me a call" by luv8s on ig.
>>2575636
I don't know, I have been vending for a long time and never got those types of comments about my art kek. It would be a wakeup call to me that maybe I need practice. I really can't imagine she sells much of that art, even with epoxy overlay, which only adds maybe .25 to the total cost of the product. It does not justify an additional $5 markup. "Smol business uwu" tiktok artists need to get humbled, I'm sorry.

No. 2576035

>>2575762
>sometimes it shocks me how much inventory some artists have when you see their art and it's so bad
They must be so loaded on money to keep ordering their shittiest uninspired designs all the time. Even if they get a low stock it still adds up quickly. Normally you'd only buy your best pieces you think could actually sell, but they just buy ANY doodle and make the whole main cast at that. And then you also see them throw in last cons items in a huge discount bin… I guess the weirdest part is they keep somehow making it into cons with that art.

No. 2576053

>>2575631
i wouldve bought the idog keycharm tbh

No. 2576082

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Does any nona have experience making and selling comics? Do they sell well? I've only been to nerd/anime cons and never strictly a "comic"-con.

Also, if you sell it at cons do you also publish it online for free? I imagine posting at least some of it for free is the best way getting fans/hype for it and then those people would want to buy a physical copy. And if people just walk by your table and like the look of it without knowing it's also online they'd still buy it so posting online shouldn't really affect sales negatively?

No. 2576094

>>2576082
I go to a lot of comic cons and these booths mostly seem empty

No. 2576245

>>2576094
Is it because comic book artist typically aren't "artist" but just "comic artists"? Or is it seen as tacky/rude to sell other things and it's supposed to be only about the comics at those cons?

No. 2576279


No. 2576285

>>2576279
Are the comic con booths with comics mostly empty because the comic artists selling there don't consider themselves artists who make art, but as comic creators who make comics and thus their booth is devoid of all the usual plastic crap artist alley usually sells?

No. 2576319

>>2576285
Oh. I would say, yes they definitely consider themselves artists who make art, but no they don’t tend to put out a lot of plastic merch. Maybe prints or stickers at most.

Also a lot of times the bigger name comic artists have their booths and hotels paid for by their publishers, sometimes they’re even paid a fee to be there for the weekend. So they don’t really need to sell a ton of merch to break even or make a profit. And if they don’t have to haul around a bunch of merchandise, they’re not going to.

No. 2576336

>>2576319
>but no they don’t tend to put out a lot of plastic merch. Maybe prints or stickers at most.
How come? Do you have any idea why? Surely most of them have seen a regular AA table given that they're comic nerds since far from of them are big name comic artists. It's hard for me to relate to an artist not wanting to create more art stuff, even just for fun.

No. 2576400

>>2576336
My best guess is that it costs money to get stuff made, and it’s a gamble on whether you’ll get a return on investment. Me personally, I hate tacky plastic shit like chibi character keychains. Wouldn’t ever buy them so I wouldn’t ever want to sell them. So I don’t blame some people for wanting a more minimalist approach to their booth.

No. 2576424

>>2576400
>Me personally, I hate tacky plastic shit like chibi character keychains.
Sure, but if you already have both the comic art and cover art there's a lot you can do to tie in with your comic. Bookmarks, stickers, prints, notebooks, keychains (tastefully made with good art, doesn't have to be plastic), pens, plushies, mugs… I feel like it wouldn't take much to build up a nice little booth and not just put like 2 comic books on a flat table and if you do like >>2571561 and focus on your comic books characters you can build a brand for it and get people hyped. If you treat your comic book like it's already a big deal people will often genuinely think it must be a big deal and get interested in reading it. And if you think your comic isn't good enough for that then why even sell it in the first place? Of course you do need to have a comic that's not dogshit with art that's at least somewhat appealing for it to work, but assuming you do kek

I honestly avoid tables with minimal art/stuff because they're just always bad. I've literally never seen good art on a "bad" table. Maybe they exist, I just haven't ever seen it in my 10+ years of going to cons.

No. 2576543

>>2576082
I sold out my original comic at Dokomi recently and I realized I should've brought more kek. I only had about 20 copies and I didn't expect to go that fast. I just put a small preview on my social media and some people found them and came just to get it. I also had people who just came across it and bought it because they liked the premise. I think visitors are definitely more interested in comics than people think. After a few months I think about publishing the whole thing online for free so the customers who purchased it just got to read the full thing before everyone else did. And I'll continue to sell physical copies for those who like to have one.

No. 2576793

>>2576543
Love that for you! I'm thinking when I get my lazy ass to make my comic I'll make an exclusive extra chapter in the physical version. Nothing that affects the plot, maybe some cute fluff or maybe something that digs deeper into the lore, or a flashback to when the characters were kids. I'd probably eventually release it online too, but only years later.

While not exactly the same, a con I once went to had a guest cosplayer from Japan and she had made a small booklet that she sold at her meet and greet. It was tailored to each country she visited and was themed around the country with unique photos (to the best of her abilities) so she only sold it specifically in that country. I always thought that was really cool of her, I love that everyone got something they could feel was special that no one else got. Especially because I'm from a smaller euro country, made me feel like she appreciated coming here. I don't even care to own booklets/photos from cosplayers but I still bought that one because I appreciated the effort put in.

No. 2576814

>>2576424
Solid advice nona
>I honestly avoid tables with minimal art/stuff because they're just always bad.
This is the harsh truth. If people lack creativity and effort with their booth I would assume the comics would be lacking as well. I am not a comic artist but I love supporting comic artists! I have met people who write/draw and print their art as well as authors who write and commission artists to illustrate their own manga. I have paid $25-$30 for a paperback and $5-$10 for some nice magazine style booklets. Presentation of the booth matters and you need to learn how to draw people in. If you aren't extroverted, hire a friend who isn't scared to talk to people about the book. You may even want to consider selling fanart of your favorite series alongside your comic to attract fans who might be interested in your work. I have seen comic artists sell out of booths and get REALLY good networking opportunities out of vending.
>>2576543
I seriously wish I could buy your comic nona!

No. 2576819

>>2576424
I don’t do comics, I was answering as a guess. But my point is the same, all of that stuff takes up front investment and could potentially be a massive waste of money. I personally have never seen any comic artist only just have one or two books out on their table and nothing else, but maybe I don’t go to enough artist alleys.

No. 2577031

>>2576424
I’ve been to a lot of (European, if that matters) comic cons with both indie and industry comic artists and I think >>2576319 is correct. They’re there to sell their comics - the story and art - not random merchandise. Often they’ll keep a part of the table clear to draw and sign stuff for people. Very occasionally the more popular webcomics (like Hark, A Vagrant) will have merch like printed totes and t-shirts but that’s rare. When people do sell mugs or figurines they’re usually handmade or at least hand-decorated, not mass produced. I think if you showed up to one of these conventions with a booth full of factory-made plastic promotional stuff people would look at you very strangely. Especially if that meant you didn’t have room to draw at the table! People come to these things to meet artists, get things signed, commission original drawings (sometimes for free, sometimes paid, depending on the artist), not to buy trinkets. I don’t think they’d even think of factory-made keychains or plushies as art even if they are based on an original illustration. The only thing you’d probably have any success selling is prints and even then I’m sure most visitors would rather just buy the comic itself and/or get an original personalised sketch done.
The OP photo looks like it was taken at one of these conventions, not at an anime con AA. They’re different cultures. I think if you showed up to >>2576082 with a booth like >>2575631, not many people would be interested.

No. 2577092

>>2576814
>You may even want to consider selling fanart of your favorite series alongside your comic to attract fans who might be interested in your work.
Speaking of fanart, depending on the con rules, but many actually allow you to sell art you commissioned from someone else of your work in AA too if it's tied to your work. For example, if you're the author/writer of a comic but didn't do the art you can still commission other artists to draw posters and such for the comic and sell that. Or if you're a vtuber or streamer you can sell your merch even if you didn't actually personally design it. I personally still wouldn't do it because at the core I'm an artist who loves to draw, but if you're mostly just a writer it's a good option.
>>2576819
>all of that stuff takes up front investment and could potentially be a massive waste of money.
That's always the case when you're in any kind of AA or market to sell stuff though. And while I get the fear people have, it's actually the opposite of what happens in reality. They think having fewer items means what they have will sell out and it's thus more "safe", but in reality the empty table is off-putting and looks unprofessional so people instead avoid it and they earn less in the end. But that's the kind of thing that is often scary and unknown to new people.
>I personally have never seen any comic artist only just have one or two books out on their table and nothing else
You know who usually does this? Moids.

No. 2577101

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>>2577031
>They’re there to sell their comics - the story and art - not random merchandise.
>I think if you showed up to one of these conventions with a booth full of factory-made plastic promotional stuff people would look at you very strangely.
I'm >>2576245 and that's also what I was trying to ask about. Like if it's kinda frowned upon to sell "cheap plastic merch" (like a regular average AA table) because they see themselves as kinda better and their art - their comics - are there to speak for themselves.
>I think if you showed up to >>2576082 with a booth like >>2575631, not many people would be interested.
This would interestingly mean the comic book con crowd and anime/manga/gaming crowd (though ironically not really "Comic Con" the brand) are totally different people then. Because if anime/manga/gaming people went to a comic con and saw regular booths they'd think it was perfectly normal, and if the comic book people had been to anime/manga/gaming cons then booths should be normal to them too. Funny how comic book guy being a bit of a snob about comics was a true stereotype all along! Imo it's a bit sad that the crowds are seemingly so separate, I'd love to see more comic in the AAs I go to.

No. 2577160

>>2575631
Art is tumblr tier fugly (race swaps, ugly hybrid art style and melted colors) and that’s the only thing that contrasts the booth, so people get close, see the ugly art style and skip the actually good things (idog charm). A good booth setup makes up half of the sales, because thats what attracts people and some AA artists don’t understand that people need to also be some sort of graphic designer, most people also wear shit cosplay lenses that make everything restricted or blurry so if a booth is all pastel, people are most likely to skipnot because they hate the art, but because they see pink lilac and yellow and go “yeah another kawaii slooper” and move on. Having a pastel display with pastel merch is not doing any good on the attention catching factor.
On the second take, Miku is an abused character. Either you make fanart of more vintage/obscure songs to catch up with old fans and curious people or it’s just miku fanart number 390. I have yet to see a Darkwood Circus/Rakshasa/Godish/Rotten Girl fanart. Yes I know that Miku is very versatile and everyone can make their own version but unless that version is very particular or unique, then I don’t why I should get Miku maid, Miku cute girl, Miku pastel girl and sakura miku more than once. I miss the days where weeaboos got so deep into Vocaloid, we had Yowane or rare SeeU fanarts kek.

No. 2577163

>>2577101
It’s not that they’re bewildered by those kinds of booths, it’s that those booths don’t really belong at the kinds of conventions people go to to discover new comics and meet comic artists. Like the Hark, A Vagrant booth I mentioned got very little traffic because, even though plenty of attendees enjoyed HAV and were excited for it initially, they lost interest when they learned that Kate Beaton herself wouldn’t be there. Her stuff was being sold by proxy by less well known Canadian (web)comic artists who ended up doing quite well on their own stuff even though most attendees hadn’t heard of them before. Because they were there, and people could talk to them! That’s the point. Nobody comes to these events to buy keychains, they come for the comics. I don't think it’s snobbery to prefer media over trinkets at an event meant to showcase a specific medium.

And there is certainly an overlap in audiences. I don’t know a single younger (like under 35) comic artist who didn’t grow up reading manga and most of them attend anime cons, too. But anime cons aren’t where you go to sell your own original comics (because lbr nobody there really cares and booths are expensive), just like comic conventions aren’t where you go to sell mousepads you bulk ordered from China. It’s just not the right event for that. IMO these comic cons tend to be much more specialised and niche than anime cons (with the exception of Comic Con(TM) which as you say is a completely different beast) so people prefer to stick to that niche and don’t appreciate what they see as commercialisation muscling its way in. Even when these cons have Marvel or Disney artists as special guests and so have booths selling official branded merchandise people rarely buy the t-shirts or figurines, they buy comics and prints to have them signed by the artist.

I think it’s fair to say that generally, these comic cons (notably excepting Comic Con(TM)) attract an audience that wants to engage with the source material and anime cons attract an audience that’s there to engage with fandom.

No. 2577237

>>2572930
For nonas who sell at AA, is your booth built around a specific theme like this, or do you have a booth under your artist name where you sell your art without a unifying theme? Which kinda booth do you think sells better in AA?

I am more drawn to themed tables, but feel like I would burn out only being able to draw and sell one subject matter.

No. 2577396

>>2577237
I have a booth under my art name, with a basic theme that's not too precise (for example I like cool colors so I use Blue, violet and black) that can be easily adapted, like I can make space, sea, sky or pastel/neon with just small decorations. People with a too strict theme risk a horrible fall the moment they want to try something else and the gimmick doesn't sell anymore, so it's better to advertise you as an artist rather than a brand. If tomorrow I switched to all ocs or all fanart, nothing will change because I always widened my art range but if tomorrow a kawaii slooper or a relatable&quirky animal artists wants to try more edgy theme, not only it will Clash horribly with the booth, but also their main demographic will stop buying. Unless someone has theme boots and different displays, it's better to not to rot on a single theme

No. 2577524

>>2576053
That and the pikmin game disc is the only one that looked cute to me.

No. 2577547

>>2577160
>On the second take, Miku is an abused character.
I like Miku, but because she's an extremely popular japanese character it means there's a shit ton of amazing anime Miku art online so it's VERY hard to impress anyone with mediocre western art of her. We've just seen better too many times before.

No. 2577548

>>2577163
>they lost interest when they learned that Kate Beaton herself wouldn’t be there
>Nobody comes to these events to buy keychains, they come for the comics.
From what you're saying it sounds like they're not really there for the comics either, they're there to meet a "celebrity". Not sure I'm behind that culture tbh. And imo you can still build a booth centered around comics so I don't get why they don't just do that then. But that's my personal take.

No. 2577559

>>2577237
>For nonas who sell at AA, is your booth built around a specific theme like this, or do you have a booth under your artist name where you sell your art without a unifying theme?
I'm on team theme! Not saying what theme to not dox myself since it's kinda niche kek but I personally find themed tables so much more appealing that it's what I want for myself too. It only works if you have general enough theme or something you're passionate enough about for it to feel fun long time. Like >>2572930 is plants + frogs which would get repetitive for me, but if you're passionate about plants I can see it working. They can branch out to lizards, birds, bugs and such and plants include all sorts of colorful flowers, fruits and berries can be paired with drawings of cakes. And tbh you can always rebrand your booth if you get tired of it! Like say they want to make a lot of blue art all of a sudden, then just make "collection" themed around a garden pond and rain and make the booth more blue.

No. 2577561

>>2576082
At comic zine fests and scifi events I always sold out. But artist alleys, not much.

No. 2578303

>>2577561
I've bought a collaborative manga (every artist did their own story and they made a thick pocket/magazine out of it) at an anime/manga con once before. I love comics, I even specifically looked out for comics - it still took me about 10 times walking past it on 3-4 different tables (since all the collab artists sold it) for me to finally check it out just because I was confused why people were selling the same thing. It was so poorly advertized I literally had to pick it up to realize it was even a manga book! So while I think the interest in buying exists, since it's rare to see it there people just kinda miss it. A book on a shelf just isn't saying anything by itself. At least it made me realize the great importance of good signage!



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