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No. 2318944

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No. 2318946

I like the threadpic

No. 2318948

>>2318946
Thank you nonna, I stole it from /m/ reaction pics thread

No. 2318952

I hate the way people treat me like I’m a normal nice person and give me attention for the way I look when I’m conventionally presentable. I gave my sister all my nicer clothes and she looks good in them in a way I don’t ever want to look because people will think the outside matches the inside, and it’s only a matter of time until I reveal my true rotten self. But now I don’t have any clothes to wear for family events and my mom is judging me

No. 2318973

>>2318922
This is such a sad response to give that nonnie and I hope she reads mine instead of yours.

No. 2318975

>>2318948
Excellent curation on your part nonny

No. 2318997

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I'm kind of sick of people making comments about my driving anxiety. The comments are not a regular thing and they don't directly call me a loser but they do make small, snide or sly comments like "well you never drive anyway" as if I'm just lazy or expecting people to give me lifts. The thing is I passed my test first time with only 2 minor faults in 2019, and I was driving in my fairly rural hometown for around a year. I even drove over the motorway with no google maps for 2 hours, alone, for the first time at night! I know that I am not a necessarily "bad" driver but I'm not confident at all, and quite anxious behind the wheel unless it's a quiet night on roads that I'm familiar with. The thing is, I didn't ask for people to make comments about my anxiety and I also don't ask/expect people to taxi me around at all. I currently live in a busy city in the UK that's notorious for extremely bad and aggressive drivers to the point where people make memes about the standard of driving here. I drove here a few times when I first moved here, and although I didn't crash or anything, it was still busy and stressful and extremely overwhelming.

I obviously struggle with anxiety, and because of that I feel extremely ashamed of not being "normal" and capable of doing normal things like everyone else can. But what makes me feel even more unmotivated and even more shit is when people make small comments about it as if I am lazy. I am not lazy, my brain clearly works very different to yours, and I wish you would just respect that and please not point out my insecurities out loud as if it's going to help anything. It's very easy to point fingers and call me an autist or that I'm scared to drive when you haven't lived a day in my shoes or what it's like to feel like a loser or abnormal because I struggle to control my anxiety. This shit is ruining my life and I really need to be on medication and tackle my fears but damn I wish people could keep their rude comments to themselves and let me fix my life on my own without rude comments. But yet if I were to bite back at these people and call them retarded for having children super young or making dumb hurtful life decisions or make comments about their own mental health that would probably be too far, right? I'm seeing this pattern of people thinking it's okay to pick at my faults or flaws but I could never possibly do that shit to them because that would be unacceptable.

No. 2319005

>>2318997
I understand completely nona, my anxiety prevented me from even trying to get my license but I finally did at 27. It's a nerve wracking thing going so fast in a large, enclosed, flammable structure. People forget how dangerous driving actually is, they get complacent. Just take your time and don't listen to them.

No. 2319028

>>2318916
just do some drugs?

No. 2319087

turns out there are no online spaces for terminal losers who own up to it instead of circlejerking by stroking their egos on random stuff like everywhere else (including here) that also not happen to be heavily male-oriented
they probably all just end up offing themselves or just fill the void by consuming content alone instead of trying to socialize
which is what I've done for the past decade or so, but having no friends just weights down on you eventually
I've been having on and off interactions with some people who I bumped into inadvertently, but it never really lasts anyway
and being anonymous all the time, fishing for yous and so forth is just draining and pointless
plus since I have nowhere to vent myself elsewhere, it's downright embarrassing
and the fact no one seems to give a shit either way just goes to show being whiny retards like myself are just not cut for friendship anyway
so random anonymous train of thoughts that no one reads ends up being the only form of para-socialization in my life
still helps, kind of, sometimes

No. 2319091

I've long settled on believing that I deserve being alone

No. 2319096

I've been awake since 1:30am & I know I'm not getting any more sleep.. I have work soon then seeing family after fucksakeeeee it's like the pressure of knowing I need sleep stops me sleeping.

No. 2319112

>>2319087
This made me sad to read. It sounds like you don't like yourself, which is even worse when you spend a lot of time only in your own company.

No. 2319122

>>2319096
Have you tried asmr?

No. 2319130

>>2319112
I'm not fishing for pity and there's nothing redeemable about myself
if there's anyone I wouldn't ever want to interact with as a friend, it's certainly myself

No. 2319154

i want to fall in love with someone in real life but after 25 years of waiting for it to happen i don't think it's realistic. I'm thin but I am ugly and I don't live in a place where my type is common. I didn't even care until i fell in love for the first time with someone who didn't know me and ever since then i feel hollow without that feeling. other things in life don't matter anymore. I don't want to live like this for another 50 years as my body slowly breaks down. I want to be normal I want to fall in love. I'm tired of drawing the short straw on every aspect of adult life.

No. 2319201

>>2319122
No but maybe I will next time this happens, thanks

No. 2319204

>>2319087
you are what you believe you are and you will experience accordingly

No. 2319211

>>2318973
i just read it nonnie and it was really kind of you to take the time to respond and i think i am wise enough despite the influence of emotions to recognize that your response is a better solution/way to go about it rather than just basing my worth, especially as an artist, on how skinny i am or how pretty i am. its incredibly fucked up but i have been crying over the coverage of luigi, a male, and how he can gain such admiration not only for his act but who he was as a person. i dont want to seek admiration from what i do, its so fickle and holds me back because i feel i cant compete with anyone. thus, aligning with what you said, i must compete with myself.

i will say that my particular creative outlets are not illustration, though for a project i do need to improve in that regard so hm! maybe i will take you up on the offer to ask for advice in that thread.

nonnie im getting my period, im insane this evening

No. 2319213

>>2319028
why would a drug addiction solve anything

No. 2319215

>>2319213
no one said become addicted to drugs lmao

No. 2319221

>>2319204
I know I deserve everything I get

No. 2319235

>>2319215
so use drugs for what kek? whats the outcome? only retards use drugs

No. 2319236

is it just me or is everyone having a baby and getting pregnant? literally every other adult i see is either carrying a baby already or is a pregnant lady kek

No. 2319237

>>2319235
>only retards use drugs
only retards who never tried anything say that.
drugs make your brain work differently so you can take a substance and see yourself or your skills in a different light. even a one time experience of a different mode of operation can remove self inflicted constraints of the ego that fuck with artistic expression, lower exaggerated shame and increase self confidence.

No. 2319241

>>2319237
NTAYRT but this was the most retarded response you could’ve given us

No. 2319246

>>2319241
How is it retarded? Most drugs lower inhibition and high inhibition and internalized shame is probably causing op's inability to make art for the sake of doing it. That's why so many artists take drugs or drink alcohol etc. You don't have to become an addict and most substances don't get every person addicted because everyone reacts differently to substances and is only susceptible to becoming addicted to a specific group of them. You sound extremely sheltered, you would be surprised how many people are high functioning drug users. It's pretty common place.

No. 2319248

Now I want to do shrooms again

No. 2319249

I wish I wasn’t gay

No. 2319251

>>2319246
You look retarded when you say
>just do some drugs???
in response to anons saying that they feel like they’re not capable of making art, and then trying to double down on it by saying that doing drugs “lowers your inhibitions” kek. I don’t think snorting a few lines will help our nonny create the type of art she’d like to

No. 2319253

>>2319246
nta but doing drugs doesn’t help you make art, it distracts you from creating art and wastes the finances that you could be using on educating yourself, healing your self esteem, and actually making the art

No. 2319279

>mfw i can physically feel my period coming and it feels like liquid is on its way out but there's nothing ACTUALLY coming out yet and i dont wanna waste a tampon

No. 2319291

im so sleepy…. long day ahead, not looking forward to it

No. 2319293

I hate when roommates bring their boyfriends over without telling me first because I have to lock myself inside and starve because there's no way I'm going out of my room. If it's pre-planned I bring snacks and pre cooked food and lock myself in but they always visit at the most unsolicited times

No. 2319296

I'll probably be visiting with an old friend soon, but what does it matter when I'm the last one she'll be visiting because she has other friends she's way closer to. She told me if they're busy she'll come see me. I know I shouldn't let it get to me. Why am I like this. I wish I could put out friend application flyers for women my age who have zero friends irl and online. I want us to be obsessed with each other and only want the attention from the other. Is it so wrong to want this? I'm not BPD or anything. I just wish I had that "childhood best friend" kind of relationship with someone. I'm also an only child so maybe that has something to do with it too. I'll try not being such a twat and I'll let myself have fun. It still stings though.

No. 2319299

I sleep 12+ hours and I'm still exhausted. I feel like a 4 year old again who needs that amount of sleep. It literally depresses my entire mood.

No. 2319312

>>2319299
I usually spend the holidays sleeping days at a time without ever getting out of bed to get away from all the attention

No. 2319320

>>2319299
if you sleep for too long your tiredness meter loops. i find 10 hours is best, because if you get to 12 hours, it's just as bad as if you only slept 4 hours.

No. 2319333

Red Christmas (I have my period) plus cousins and shit I can't lay on my bed urghh

No. 2319340

>>2319320
I slept for 16 hours (depression) and I’m yawning up a storm. I do better on 4 hours of sleep energy wise.

No. 2319344

People on tiktok are brain dead. There was a video of a girl finally getting a doll that costs 8 dollars after asking for it for 2 years. I asked why it took so long, and if it was because it costs more in their country or if it was out of stock. Everyone in the comments attacked me for being privileged and for lacking empathy. “Some people don’t even have 8 dollars to spend on food.” The girl is visibly in a very nice house dumb fucks. Anyway turns out it costs 50 dollars in her country.

No. 2319345

Dating men is whores and for them only, I'm dumb and brainwashed into not realizing that I am different from other women. Reality is more like porn, than a sweet romantic movie. I don't have any slut in me to do obscene slutshit lol

No. 2319346

>>2319236
That's because only breeders matter , and we are hated

No. 2319348

I can't stop reading our old messages. I can't stop reminiscing on how excited we were about each other. How connected and hopeful we were. Before I realized my dreams were just dreams. That no one could ever love the real version of me, not the idealized version they've created of me because of the way I present myself to them. I can't stop thinking about where we would be right now if I wasn't extremely ill. I can't handle this pain. I can't believe this is my life. I can't believe he will move on, get married, have kids, and I'll just be here..still thinking about him, alone.

No. 2319349

>>2319236
Not me thank god.

No. 2319383

>>2319236
It felt like there was a baby boom where I am right after lockdown. Now they're in the newly split up and coparenting phase.

No. 2319414

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>Selling on eBay for 2+ years
>Sold over 55 items in those 2+ years
>Made over $1500 so far
>Never received a negative review
>Never sent a parcel out late
>STILL have to wait 2 months for eBay to release funds

It's so ridiculous. My buyer paid me on 18 December, I shipped the item on 20 December, and eBay tells me my payment will be ready late March 2025. It's such a joke. Whenever I ask about why my money takes so long, it's always "you don't have enough history on your account." I've been selling on this account for TWO years. When am I gonna have enough of a history? 5 years? 10 years? Just let me have my fucking money. I've never broken the terms of service, I've always had positive reviews, I always ship my items on time, WHY do I get treated like I'm a criminal bootlegger smuggler? It's fucking eBay not the bazaars of Algiers. Let me have my money eBay. I could understand a week, or two weeks, but more than 12 weeks?? Just to get a payout of $45? Such a fucking joke. This is why people don't sell on eBay.

No. 2319417

I know my parents think I'm a failure; it doesn't matter how many times they say I'm not. I failed them, and I'm a burden. I know they resent me and wish I was never born.

No. 2319437

Does anyone else find this holiday season dreadful? Lol my family is evil and I don't want to be forced to spend time with them. My friends are shit and they are more convenience friendships due to work and what's not and I avoid them whenever I can. Sometimes I wonder if I should try to get a boyfriend after all even if I'm fully aware moids are evil because the idea of having to spend Christmas with people like this makes me deeply depressed. I wish I could spend it in the middle of nowhere so no one bothered me nor I had to think about it and I could just mind my business and carry on like any normal day.

I don't even hate the concept of Christmas and I think it's a great holiday for kids to enjoy but forcing adults without kids to partake on it it's kinda pointless.

No. 2319439

A migrant set a woman on fire in NYC and I get some burgers will still get mad in /meta/ when euros complain about migrants because muh racism

No. 2319446

Lord take all my pain and give it to my dad

No. 2319469

My best friend is so much better than me. She knows how to work out (I know that sounds dumb, but my form is always wrong and I forget what I even need to be doing), she’s super knowledgeable on sports, cars, etc. She’s an avid reader, she can sew, she can cook without needing to use a recipe. Why am I so pathetic? I’m just not smart enough to learn things and when I do I forget it. I can’t find interest in anything enough to become super knowledgable in it. She’s so social and pretty too. Im so pathetic it makes me sick. I can’t blame it on my adhd and anxiety disorder, im just stupid and pathetic.

No. 2319487

I booked two nights in what seemed an affordable nice motel and the room has turned out to be a meth hole. Should I ask for a spoon to eat my rice pudding or will the receptionist be suspicious of me? Kek, it's either that or eating it with the short end of my comb. There was no fire alarm, just a long red cable hanging from the ceiling, which was great because I would have bought some cigarettes then. Sadly the motel's handyman came in and installed one shortly after I got the idea. He said that my dog was very cute, he is cute yeah

No. 2319509

>>2319469
comparison is the thief of joy nonna. just because you might not possess the same qualities that you admire in your friend doesn't mean you're stupid and pathetic, it just means you haven't figured out what your strengths are yet or found something that interests you. you'll get there.

No. 2319511

>>2319469
what value is there in knowing about sports? and with cars, knowing how to do some minor car repair and maintenance, lots of people don't know but they have their strengths. if you keep up with something long enough you can learn it too! and learning how to cook without a recipe is doable it means learning the basics of cooking and how flavors come together, i find watching cooking youtubers like ethan chlebowski (more before his current series on specific ingredients) helps.

No. 2319569

>stressed out female
>tell her few solutions
>ignores me and keeps stressing out
I'm so done feeling sad for them, go on your suffering crusade. I've done enough I'm not sharing the burden of your very really avoidable emotional problems anymore.

No. 2319573

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>have crush on a my good friend of a couple of years
>know she isn’t into me, but still want to be her friend so try to get closer with her
>end up being very clingy at a party with her after getting very drunk
>couple of weeks later…
>she finds out that I was into her which is why I was so clingy that night
>proceeds to tell all of our mutual friends how she felt predated upon and how she doesn’t want to be around me anymore
>she hates me now
>basically all of our mutual friends have sided with her
>mfw I never laid a hand on her
>mfw I never said a word about how I felt to her
>mfw she said she felt “icked out” that I felt that way about her
>mfw when she bullshitted a bunch of reasons to explain why she never wants to talk to me again (her words)

its hard being a certified lover girl nonnas

No. 2319574

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I miss Britney Venti, I hope she's having a good Christmas

No. 2319576

I think that I struggle with identity issues because how I view myself is very different from how I'm being perceived by others. Maybe I'm a retard or an autist (and I actually mean it, maybe I should get checked) but when people describe me I often think "Yeah, no" but not in a superior kind of way, I'm puzzled.
I've been not been educated in the best way and I believe that good people can do bad things and vice versa but I think that what I do is basic human decency.
People describe me as kind, caring, the "mom figure", always there, always ready and when they do it's not like that I want to be edgy or shit like that by saying no but I think that what I do is the most normal shit ever. Yah of course I'm there when people need me, of course I can offer solutions to problems, of course I can support people and care for them, one time I offered to be a delivery person for groceries to a sick friend and I was viewed as some kind of saint. I think that's normal. My friends tell me that I think too much about things and their explanation but the thing that I think about is how they would pinpoint that, I mean it's not normal? One time a friend said "Most people wouldn't do a lick of what you do" and I'm like that's rough? People are that shitty? I get it, maybe I'm the overthinking retard and I would totally accept it as a label but it makes me a little sad thinking that people automatically assume that other people are shitty so if I do something kind, that comes to me automatically, they make surprised comments about it. It's not like I don't like compliments, its just baffling how kindness is being seen exceptional, that's all.

No. 2319584

>>2319573
>be young and naive
>have a group of friends
>jokingly ask who we would date if we were men
>say that I find a friend cute
>doesn't say anything else
>never did anything weird, just answered the same question as everyone else
>friends group now hate me

Life is hard out there. Heterosexual people are dumbasses.

No. 2319594

>>2319569
Maybe you just don't have good solutions

No. 2319596

I think this is gonna be the last time I ever visit my family for the holidays. I was already planning on skipping it this year, but I deluded myself into saying I could handle it. I can't handle it, obviously. I just can't deal with the same crap anymore. It's been 2 days and I'm already thinking about changing my flight and just going home now. I might spend $1000 on changing my flight but it's so worth it to be out of here. I would never wish having family members with BPD on even my worst enemies. It's like when I walk back into this house I'm 8 years old again struggling to cope with all this bullshit that I was born into.

No. 2319610

>>2319246
ayrt and i dabbled with drugs for two years and became extremely addicted/dependent—i still feel i’m recovering from the brain damage and the hit it took on my ability to function (i did struggle with a moderate mental disorder) i was very lucky to get out early and realize i have to build the strength and discipline myself without relying on drugs to do what i love. im very hard on myself, and i know there are some drugs i could do that are maybe safer such as shrooms, but i dont want to get into acquiring those and opening up that route again. it feels futile when i have the creativity just the inability to get going and realize its okay to fail and not be perfect. i dont want to associate drugs with art. maybe im just a pussy, but thats why i did them in the first place, i wanted to be “cool” and not such a stickler, “perfect” (unattainable in reality of course) being. but i just dont think im one of those people who can use drugs without depending on them. now once im started and doing art and have that discipline, drugs could “help”. but for now theyd be a crutch and allow me to avoid living my life and growing. hope this made sense im exhausted

No. 2319612

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i love you…why don't you love me…this is worse than a breakup, i feel my heart slowly crumbling into pieces only you can put me back together again yet you turn away from me
look only my way please
it's a self fulling prophecy i hate it
i hate you
please don't go
don't leave me for her

No. 2319613

>>2319576
most people are nice, but not many are kind. also, a lot of people are not action-oriented, which is what I think the major thing here is. a lot of people will think to do the kind thing, and then talk themselves out of it. you just do it, so that's impressive.

No. 2319619

>>2319211
I'm so glad you ended up reading my post nonna! And I think the advice applies to any kind of creative outlet. I hope you do end up posting on /m/, I like giving nonnas art advice kek. Also I feel you, this month the last week of my cycle has aligned with the holidays and it is killing me.

No. 2319711

first christmas without my dog. bought a new stocking for him on clearance after the holidays last year. never got to use it.

No. 2319712


No. 2319757

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was studying abroad in Korea, installed an app, matched with a guy, 10 days of texting we meet up, all we do is talk and we're still in touch even though I'm back in the states but during our little outing I felt he was trying to see how I felt so he could act accordingly and I was doing the same. anyway, I drunk called after the date and to me I felt like I got friendzoned. if I was prettier I feel like the outcome would be different, now I just feel like he's friends out of pity. I feel like I'm playing hard to get rid of but if we don't go without talking he sends a text. we didn't flirt before meeting but it was subtle, like we'll see. I'm just upset because I wish I was better. after meeting there hasn't been any sign he's still romantically interested in me GRRRR

No. 2319772

>>2319711
I’m sorry Nona. I bought a commemorative ornament for my dog after he was gone and now it sort of feels like he’s here for Christmas in some way.

No. 2319784

I have a 2 year old so this Christmas is the first where she's actually acknowledging the concept of Santa, presents, etc; so we opened one of her gifts this evening before she went to bed and her nana got her a book entirely in the Irish language. Does my daughter speak Irish? No, she barely speaks English. Do I speak Irish? No. Does my husband speak Irish? No. Does the nana in question speak Irish? Barely! She's done a small course in it for a few weeks and is now obsessed with it. I know it sounds so ungrateful but nobody can actually read the book to my daughter so it feels like such a shame and a waste. We live in Northern Ireland as well so it's a whole touchy subject that honestly I don't even want to risk dealing with if we ever bring the book out in public. In laws can be so frustrating sometimes, and Christmas just heightens that for me.

No. 2319787

>>2319757
If a scrote likes you you won’t have any doubts, if you’re confused it’s either a no or an “I’m not sure” or something you are just going to waste time discovering.

No. 2319789

>>2319573
I’m so sorry nonna, this is incredibly unfair and disgusting on her part.

No. 2319793

>>2319584
>>2319573
Samefag as before, but this is why I don’t bother coming out to my friends (I’m bi anyway).
Some women tend to be so weird and take you as a literal predator or think that you automatically have a crush on them, but they’ll joke about trying girls on the same breath kek.

No. 2319812

>>2319787
I know, he'd make it clear which is exactly why I'm so upset. I left out a few things he did during our outing that I keep overthinking and clinging onto and I have to stop.

No. 2319841

>>2319772
thank you nonna. i have so many reminders of him around the house, maybe even too many. my pup was so cuddley, i miss holding him more than anything. im sorry for your loss as well

No. 2319843

>>2319757
continuation of vent

he was definitely romantically interested before meeting me

during our outing (I refuse to call it date because he didn't say it was a date but according to my friends it was a date, also he was also dressed for a date)

> made a reservation (bare minimum, nice gesture)

> commuted like an hour and 30 minutes to see me
>tried to meet me by my dorm (considerate, bare minimum)
>got off at the wrong place so we met at the restaurant, after saying 'I thought you would wait for me outside, I arrive and I see him outside, with no puffer waiting for me (cute)
>opens the doors (bare minimum, nice gesture)
>he leads me to the table and he had already poured water into the cups (bare minimum, nice gesture though. customary in Korea, girl friends do it for me too)
>when we sat down he very cutely and shyly hands me a hot pack, I use it and when I hand it back he says its for me (so cute, boyfriend material)
>offered to pay for dinner (but then I made a petrified face because I'm so stupid and anxious) I said no, then he was quiet, asked if I had a Korean bank account, I said yes, and he till said he could pay with his card and then I can send him my half. we ended up splitting it
>before meeting I expressed how I was sad asians don't really hug and he said "yup especially between men and women unless they are in a relationship". kept saying he would hug, pet me, maybe even hold hands when we met. at the end when he said bye, he veery quickly gave me a side hug that I wasn't expecting but I couldn't even hug back because it was that quick.

overthinking that because of what he said but also because he didn't have to hug me, he could have just waved bye. but also it could have been a friendly hug and out of pity.

No. 2319859

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I'm trying to get used to wearing skirts again, it's an uphill battle but I don't want to let my body dysmorphia dictate everything in my life - it's already starting to affect my relationship with others and how I view other people's bodies (with quite some internalized jealousy that I really try to ignore).
I have wide hips and a wide ribcage, which means the area in between is free real estate that's mainly fat (idk if I'm a "true" hourglass, I feel like I'm just a freak with a wide ribcage) so anything with an elastic waist just goes SHLOORP and cinches my waist; making it look like I'm wearing something that is too small, even if I size up. I didn't think too much about it until I looked at myself in the mirror a few years ago and realized that my wide ribcage makes it look like I have a giant muffin top when it's just…I'm just shaped like this. And now I can't unsee it whenever I wear skirts. I try to cover it up with wide belts but they can't save me all the time. So I'm trying to learn to not think about it.
I feel like denying myself these skirts I so love is denying myself my femininity. I of course have a few dresses I enjoy wearing too, but it's hard to find ones that fit how I want because of - again - my waist, since I also have a pretty long torso.

No. 2319880

>>2319859

try wearing oversized tops that cover where the skirt starts, basically hide the band, also try wearing a corset. I'm chubby and midsize, most of my weight is In my tummy and my waist is weird, where the actual waist is small but the sides the love handles make me look wide so I have a similar issue.

No. 2319898

>ex calls me at the crackass of dawn after not talking to me fo 6 years
r>get more texts because some bozo is using my phone number in Florida for their appointments and bailing
>home server craps out and spend 4+ hours fixing it
I love Christmas eve guys

No. 2319901

I have nervous tics, basically when I get frustrated/nervous/anxious I hit myself in quick, single powerful blows with my fist and I just punched myself so hard in the collarbone that now I struggle to breathe. I really want to fix it and pavlov my body in another, less hurtful way, to cope with this and I'm on a waiting list for psych appts but everyday that I hit myself I wonder how long can I go.

No. 2319905

>>2319859
anon I'm literally getting dressed right now and struggling with the same thing. try a looser top, or a cardigan. sometimes I'll wear a skirt slightly high waisted too, like sitting on the bottom of my ribs. It won't make you look snatched but it avoids that rib cage muffin top. if you're comfortable with it, low-rise skirts are also pretty trendy right now

No. 2319919

This isn't really a vent, just a pet peeve, but I hate it when people say "self-x themselves" either say "x themselves" or "self-x" you don't need to say it twice.

No. 2319943

>>2319901
Does anyone in your family have manic depression anon?

No. 2319945

>>2319843
I can't possibly know your situation but here is my analysis. The nice gestures are because he is asian, being polite is the norm. This goes for paying for you too, because you are female and he is male. Declining the man's offer to pay as a woman and splitting it is the polite thing here in America but he probably took it as an insult or a rejection from you. This part makes me think he took it as a rejection, like you were mortified he even thought about paying for you kek
>then I made a petrified face because I'm so stupid and anxious) I said no, then he was quiet
Overall he could've been initially into you, but got turned off by the interaction. The thing about asian men is that they expect women to act submissive, in the way that they think women will shyly fend off advances but "let them happen" if the woman likes him back. Frankly they are really annoying to date even if they are polite so don't worry too much about it anon.
t. asian

No. 2319948

>>2319919
I can't think of examples of people saying that, sounds retarded. But I get annoyed by people saying 'self entitled'. It's so redundant, wtf do you need to specify self for?

No. 2319949

i absolutely love cleaning my appliances and drying them off and seeing them look all spic and span and shiny! i especially love cleaning my juicer after making orange juice, scrubbing the masticating attachment out with a toothbrush and seeing it get clean it extremely satisfying kekk

No. 2319951

>>2319948
Like "self-medicate himself".

No. 2319953

This is going to be perhaps the worst Christmas Eve I have had. I don't even have anyone to confide in but to only express my unhappiness on a fucking imageboard of all places.

No. 2319954

In my new workplace there are a bunch of lesbians, and I made friends with two of them.
I invited them over for pizza and when I saw one of the two out of work (we work in food context, our uniform is rather ugly and plain) I just fell in love at “first” sight.
I can’t help but think of her all the time. I want to talk to her, I want to talk about her, I want to see her, I want to kiss her. I can’t stop fantasizing about her kissing me, even listening to music which makes me imagine her in all sort of contexts.
Every day I walk into work thinking of how much I want to see her, I don’t even mind if she’s in another department as long as it allows me to get a glance at her.
I felt like this once in my life, her stare is just too intense and I struggle to put two coherent words together. She’s fun, interesting, yet mysterious and impenetrable. At times I think she might be interested, at times I think I’m just delusional. I think I am reading too much into things because I want to still hope for it to happen.
I will probably never understand how she feels about me without asking directly but it’s too early for that.
Everytime I try to flirt I just pussy out adding “as a friend” to the sentence. I’m just that pathetic.
I feel as if I’m walking in a fire that will destroy me inside out and not leave any ashes.

No. 2319955

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>>2319953
i’m sorry nona. you can spend Christmas Eve with us ♥

No. 2319959

>>2319955
Thank you. This feels so pathetic, like I shouldn't be the kind of person who would have to resort to this, if we're thinking stereotypically. I'm just glad I have something, even if it's all just simulacra of real comfort and connection. It's better than what I can get now.

No. 2319969

>>2319959
ntayrt but I have you in my heart as well nonotcha. It's difficult out here sometimes, but you aren't alone

No. 2319973

my whole life i have never experienced a lasting romantic relationship. i fell in love with dozens of people, dated some guys for a couple of months, had “situationships”, casual sex, and all the bullshit but when the time to commit comes they all run away from it because they’re “not ready for a relationship”. every time i can’t help but think what the FUCK is wrong with me? why not me? these guys have dated other girls previously but for some reason i’m the who’s not enough for them to commit. what fucks me up is they never tell me their actual justification for not staying so i don’t know why this keeps happening. there’s nothing wrong with my appearance, i’m good at maintaining friendships and other kinds of relationships, and i know i’m nice and interesting and yet the men I want never want me back bad enough to actually be my boyfriend. i feel like a pathetic loser for even caring about this and seeing myself like some sort of victim, it’s embarrassing to have desired something so much and yet never being able to achieve it while everyone around seems to do it so effortlessly, it’s embarrassing to always be the one who gets rejected. i literally just want to love someone and have them love me back and take care of each other, i have my family and my friends but these are simply not the same as having someone.

No. 2319974

My boyfriend cuts me off every time I open my MOUTH. I literally can’t get a full sentence out without him cutting me off to guess what I’m about to say next, predict where the story is going, asking a question, or starting his own fucking story. Shut the fuck you retarded piece of shit. I told him to stop and he said he’s not even doing anything. Then he admitted he was but that no one minds it except me. I said people definitely do and just don’t say it. He said no I’m wrong. I said people have literally told me they hate when you do it and he just goes “the hell with all of them. I don’t cut people off.” I swear to god as soon as I get home I’m breaking up with him through text I actually can’t deal with arrogant dumbasses.

No. 2319976

Currently in a very intense self-hatred phase, I hope staying at my parents' place will calm things down but now I just want to burn everything down.

No. 2319981

>>2319976
Aw I'm sorry nonna I hope you feel better soon.

No. 2319982

>>2319973
Moids will not commit or take a situation seriously if they can get whatever they want for free from you. If you give them whatever they want without having a relationship in the first place, that's how they'll want it to stay. In summary, don't give them pussy for free. Don't dote on them for free. Moids are beneath you and have to earn their place with you. Realize this. Demand more. Expect more. And if you don't, the cycle is doomed to repeat.

No. 2319987

>>2319974
Do it, he sounds like a selfish asshole.

No. 2319991

I'm so slow and retarded, barkeeper has been flirting with me all night– brushes his fingers against mine on the counter quite obviously, to the point of holding my hand, pays for two of my drinks….. and I still manage to fuck it up. He had to repeat something he said in spanish three times, it was so embarrassing.. I'm so dumb. I just want that dick and I can't even do that urgh.
How do I get that dick, nonnies? I don't want the man, I just want the rest of it for some fun. How?

No. 2319994

Tfw I look at a photo I liked of myself a day later and I looked like a fucking alien/bulldog hybrid the whole time.

No. 2319998

>>2319943
No idea, nonna. Is it related?

No. 2320003

>>2319843
It was a date kek. It sounds like he thought that you sent mixed signals. You sound like a very awkward person.

No. 2320005

Is anyone else here the least loved daughter? It's always been obvious that my sister is the favorite and I gotta be honest, it hurts.

No. 2320007

>>2320005
I don’t get parents who play favorite, I’m sorry nonna

No. 2320031

yet another Christmas Eve spent alone in my empty apartment as a strong and independent human bean

No. 2320047

Bitternonna in the anime thread. Go fuck yourself and get better soon. Hope that helps. Hope that superiority complex works out for you.

No. 2320049

>>2320031
Nonna, I hope you're doing well. Wishing you a peaceful Christmas and sending lots of love your way.

No. 2320051

>>2320005
Yes, it's always been obvious. I've always used it as fuel for my self-hate and misery.

No. 2320053

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So my sister is a lesbian and has been in a relationship with a woman for six years. Tonight was the night where my sister came and introduced her to the family so we could spend Christmas eve together. I've met my sister's girlfriend before and she is such a lovely person, really nice. Anyways, I was sweating the whole time because my dad is honestly kind of a pos, misogynist kind of person. I was hoping he wouldn't even be at Christmas eve but he was there.
And I spent the whole evening with him just because I wanted my sister and her girlfriend to have a somewhat decent night. I hope this doesn't make me sound like 'gay savior' or I guess technically 'lesbian savior'. I just can't stand my own father, even as thirty year old woman, and I don't want to hear him say anything crazy to anyone else if I can prevent it. So I just distracted my dad the whole evening by being with him. It was honestly torture KEK.
But at least it's over. I need a drink.

No. 2320054

>>2320053
You sound like an amazing sister, honestly. God bless you nonnie. Hope you enjoy the rest of your night.

No. 2320060

>>2320053
You are an amazing sister nona, I wish I had one like you. Treat yourself to a glass of wine or gin maybe? ♥

No. 2320067

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Tonight and likely tomorrow will be rather boring and depressingly silent due to tense dynamics in the house, and my mom was too tired and busy to go see the light show with me. We're all just sitting in the dark on our phones and not talking to eachother, but tonight I'm watching a Christmas movie and I'm excited for tomorrow because I brought some presents for myself that I told myself not to open until Christmas day. It'll at least be somewhat alright so I'll be happy.

No. 2320079

I can tell my grandpa is holding back with "traditional"(misogynistic) remarks. Good. I'm glad he gets the vibe without me saying anything.

No. 2320080

spent xmas eve alone in my apartment. traveled 2 hrs to spend xmas morning with my mum and siblings for presents. my mum hasnt spoken to me in weeks because i had said i didnt want to go to her new boyfriend's for xmas dinner and i was over having male figures in and out of my life and she flipped. this morning she didnt ask me how i was or how my break alone has been going. at midday my mum and siblings split off to spend time with their partners and i drove home.. another 2 hours.
now im back home, sobbing into last night's cheese board because being alone sucks ass.
worst christmas yet. I like being single but christ, maybe i need to be adopted into a man's family to feel some belonging.

(im in the southern hemisphere so im a day ahead)

No. 2320081

Having life long anxiety sucks so hard. It's sad to know that even medicated i'll be a nervous wreck. Today i hit a car because i'm retarded and i can't help feeling so bad, but also i have to not take accountability for it because that's the rules. I may have to go to court and i am dreading it so bad, i just want to pay a small fine and be left alone. everytime something bad happens i just start running through all the times i have failed and my mind even creates new situations where i am desperately trying to prove i am a worthwhile person that make me even more anxious. My heart is still racing hours later and i can barely eat because of my anxiety, i can't enjoy anything. I hate myself so much.

No. 2320082

This sucks. You're being so lukewarm towards me but I guess I deserve it. I don't really mean much to anyone. Merry Christmas!

No. 2320086

>>2320082
merry christmas nona

No. 2320087

>>2320080
I haven't spent a holiday with my reconstructed "family" in years
my father is a literal manwhore who every other week gets a new "girlfriend" decades younger than him, while being nearly 70
worst part he's so insistent on having them meet me as if it gave him any sort of credential as caring about "family values"
I'd rather not even think about it

No. 2320088

at a family reunion and my 8 year old cousin is talking about mewing and “sigma” streets is done. what the fuck mike mew im coming for you bitch

No. 2320121

Merry Christmas. I didn't get anything but run broke by my mother who wanted money constantly

No. 2320124

Vent about road rage and driving bullshit. Most people are fine but it only takes a handful of angry, insecure, or drunken scrotes on the road to at best ruin the day or at worst ruin lives. Scrotes like to say we’re bad drivers yet the majority of accidents are their fault, road raging, drunk driving, vast majority males. I was on a long drive home to see my family today when some absolutely psycho moid got mad at me for no reason, probably because I didn’t let him illegally pass me and tried to break check me multiple times. I made sure he saw me laughing and smiling at him while he chimped out in his car and failed to do anything. I sped into the fast lane past him and he stayed behind like a faggot. Honestly I have never seen such machismo competitive retardation until I got this car. I think most scrotes assume I’m male because I drive a pretty powerful black muscle car and the amount of men trying to challenge me on the road and get aggressive with me is fucking insane. I usually don’t engage because they’re all testosterone driven fags that are willing to die to prove they have any worth. On the occasion I do, my car will blast past some moid’s shitbox Honda civic from 2009 and let them seethe. I hope all these road raging men end up wrapping their car around a tree and becoming paraplegics without harming anyone else in the process. Additional shoutout to the scrotes in large pickup trucks that speed around me just to end up at the same exact speed because of traffic. Wow you really did something there. I’m mad at him for putting me in danger but I can guarantee going to my sister’s beautiful home and seeing my wonderful family is better than wherever that asshole ended up today. Hope he spent it alone.

No. 2320132

My mothers family is cool, they let me do my thing. My fathers family on the other hand is exhausting. "You're in your mid-20s, how come you're not married yet?"–"What do you mean, living alone? You're a woman, that's too dangerous."–"You can focus on your job later, your twenties are for finding a nice man and having children"–"'Guys are gross'? Don't say that, I know someone…". Guess whose side I'm seeing today.

No. 2320133

Why do people chose to engage in a holiday that makes them miserable? Either don't do it, or dial it down where it's manageable. Don't drive yourself crazy for one day out of the year, treating your family poorly as a result.

No. 2320140

I accidentally knit my aunt one size 7 slipper and one size 8. I am dumb as shit. I'll tweak them and put them back into the future gift pile. I am so stupid, it was the visual difference of counting groups of five and I counted four. Idk how to explain but it would have been obvious to anyone and I didn't notice until wrapping.

No. 2320193

My ex gave me trust issues when I never used to have them before. I keep expecting people to do a complete 180 on me like he did. He went from "I love you" to "I never loved you" in 24 hours.

No. 2320195

>>2320193
This is the reason why you switch to low commitment relationships and just give 50% of love

No. 2320204

>>2320193
protip: both are lies

No. 2320212

>Christmas holidays
>"I'm friendless and with no partner, I don't feel like celebrating but at least these days are nice, sunny and mostly quiet"
>Meet with distant relatives for like half an hour
>My parents introduce me as a lazy stupid bitch while my brother is perfect
>Ok that sucks especially because I do a lot more than my brother does for them but they're distant relatives who cares
>Go to grandma to tell her merry christmas
>She implies I'm dressed like shit (I was working in the garden so it wasn't anything fancy but I was planning to just say hi)
Um… cool I guess? I got the confirmation that my parents think I'm shit and my relatives dislike me and think I'm a retard. I have no friends so this doesn't confirm what they think at all! So cool. Happy holidays nonas!! I can't wait for this to be fucking over.

No. 2320225

>>2320193
He sounds like a BPDemon.

No. 2320236

>>2320212
Read what you wrote, the only person who was friendly and had manners in the entire day was you. So I wouldn't put any importance on what your family thinks. You wanted to drop by to wish them a Merry Christmas and they talk about your looks and who talks their child down, especially on a holiday? I'm sorry that's your family but you seem cool and you can do anything you want to. There are people out there who will be meaningful to you one day, and you get to choose them, unlike your family

No. 2320237

Woke up with thoughts running about how much i hate libfem men and then got on instagram and got very angry at random posts i saw. Had to remind myself to get a grip. I'm not religious or care about holidays much but realized I'm getting riled up about stupid shit at 5am on CHRISTMAS FUCKING MORNING. I need to be more rational

No. 2320245

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I will die alone. I will never have a group of friends, and I know this because I never have had a group of friends. All my efforts mean nothing. Everyone hates me even though I try my very hardest. Being ignored after pleasant exchanges hurts so much more than anything else. I've been abandoned countless times. I will never resemble a human being. Being positive doesn't change a thing, a year of that later I'm still alone and ten times sicker with no one to visit me. I'm almost 20 it's just never happening. No person would ever stick with me. I will never find a girl who'd date someone as fucked up as me. It hurts so much knowing how unloveable I am. I wish I could be reborn as someone normal.

No. 2320247

>>2320245
20 is way too young to be this nihilistic but it’s also the perfect age to be self loathing. You aren’t going to die alone unless your personality is truly shit.

No. 2320252

I hate when they suddenly change characters (towards me!) when other people arrive fuck just leave me alone you never said shit before it was fine??

No. 2320255

>>2320245
I was super lonely and had low self-esteem at your age too anon, now 10 years later I have multiple friend groups and feel genuinely cared for. Don't give up, these things take time. You're way too young to be giving up on life, you're still a teenager. Try to look for groups for a particular hobby you have, you probably won't immediately click with someone but you can definitely build friendships slowly over the years. Be persistent because you can have those connections you crave, but have a little more confidence in yourself first because the way your attitude is now will become a self-fulfilling prophecy if you're not careful. Once you have a more secure sense of worth, people will be naturally drawn to you. And if someone doesn't like you or ignores you, don't take it personally. Think of it more like, wow they missed out on getting to know me, that's too bad for them and move on. Good luck anon, I'm rooting for you.

No. 2320265

I don't really understand how I'm supposed to be in this jolly happy mood when my parents turn on the tv for some background noise it's just news of people dying, car crashes, and other bad things happening. Am I supposed to just not feel bad at all about other people and just be glad I'm alive. I understand we can't possibly care about every single person suffering in the world and I can't do anything about it so it's pointless to even get like this, but it still makes me feel bad. It feels like I'd thrive if I was just a sociopath and didn't care about anyone, on another day of celebration we were driving and my dad mentioned a cat was dead on the road from being run over by some other car and it just made me feel shitty but no one else around me seems to be affected by these things at all, they call me stupid if I feel sad or let it affect me in any way. I just get this feeling of not really being able to be truly happy if I feel like the world is a terrible place and I could be next, it all just depends on my luck.

No. 2320273

>>2319945
now that i think about it , he probably did take that as rejection.
after dinner we went to a cafe, then we took a walk to my university and we went to the music room and then the game room. going down the elevator, he asked me what i was looking for on the app and how i found out about the app and i freaked out cause the app is really niche and i genuinely forgot how i even found the app too so i didn’t even have an answer for him and then the elevator started making a sound so i just pivoted the conversation to that and said language exchange (yeah..).
i’m giving (or gave) mixed signals just as much as he did. or maybe im the problem because im socially awkward ! he literally asked me what i was looking for and i had my chance and didn’t answer directly , its my own fault.

and the reason i rejected him paying is not because of “american politeness” or anything. i’m latina and its normal for the older person and male friend/family member to pay as well. the reason why i declined and made a petrified face was because i was worried maybe all he wanted was to hook up . since the day we matched on the app and started talking he said he would help me move out of my dorm and give me late night car rides so I thought there was a chance he wasn’t being nice for nothing. from the advice of a male friend, he told me to make sure to pay for my things in case he uses it against me. me making a petrified face was because i’m socially retarded. I wasn’t rejecting him , i was guarding myself

as for males paying in korea, i wouldn’t say i entirely agree. I see a few couples our age that i know split the bill, and friends tend to split or take turns paying for small things. considering it was a first date it was probably different for him though.

he likes me enough to be friends , and at that point we had only known each other for 10 days. he was romantically interested based on some texts, maybe not now since im a social retard and visual disappointment.
now I'm just being critical of myself and I think he's only in touch out of pity.

No. 2320274

>>2320003
well yes!

No. 2320275

>>2320245
I felt this way even younger than you. Hell I would befriend you nonny.

No. 2320279

A friend who completely disappeared off Instagram in April literally a day after I messaged her if she was okay (which led me to have a bit of anxiety whether I was the cause, but I know I didn't do anything) is now sending me a friend request on Discord after I unfriended her inactive account there because it made me sad. It's been over half a year. I don't even know. Hell, my anxiety is saying she just wants to friend request me to cuss me out for unfriending her account even though I don't think I did anything.

No. 2320284

>>2320279
She was probably struggling and didn’t want to be a burden. Now she’s doing better and wants to reconnect. Source: been there, done that.

No. 2320285

Im gonna get a laser eye treatment on my retina tomorrow. Fml. Does it hurt anons?

No. 2320286

>>2320284
I mean disappearing for 8 whole months without even a word doesn't feel right to me. Even if I was severely struggling I'd just say "I'm struggling" before leaving.

No. 2320290

>>2320265
As tough as it sounds, sometimes you have to turn that empathy into gratitude for your own life. And honestly, if your parents or anyone else make you feel bad for venting, it’s better to keep those thoughts for yourself or share with people who understand. You’re a sweetheart, and the world is better because of people like you. Keep showing love and respect. It really matters.

No. 2320293

>>2320286
You’re right, it’s definitely not okay. I’m sorry she did that to you. I just meant it might be the case since I’ve been there myself. If you decide to reconnect, you should let her know that kind of behavior isn’t acceptable. Not that you should excuse it, but sometimes it comes from really low self-esteem and thoughts like "I don’t matter" or "they’re better off without me." Still, it’s not right.

No. 2320294

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Friend posted that she goes by any pronouns except she/her

No. 2320295

>>2320294
I hate this because it's just internalised misogyny and I have no idea how to talk them out of it. The ones who go by she/they or all pronouns want to do it because it's fun and quirky at least.

No. 2320296

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How it feels being near people you don't want to be near.

No. 2320297

>>2320295
She is a detransitioner but still loves trannies so I don't know what's really going on here

No. 2320322

>>2320295
Let them be retarded in peace anon

No. 2320323

>>2320322
Why. I just hate internalised misogyny.

No. 2320326

I don't care about anything and anyone now, each to their own choices, truly the ultimate step of feminism empathy zero

No. 2320329

>>2320290
Thanks nonna. I end up feeling like I should try to become cold instead to fit into the world around me (something I fail at) so it helps to hear that. I don't have many people who understand and I wish my parents would, but they do seem fundamentally different from me in that regard.

No. 2320356

My mother who never buys me anything for Christmas (which I am fine with) gifted me a voucher for a makeup store. I do not and have not ever liked makeup and she is completely aware of this but loves to make comments about how I should start wearing it now I'm an adult. I am really financially struggling so literally any other gift would have been so helpful but she chooses to give me the thing I want the least

No. 2320358

>>2320356
unless she's a psycho it's probably meant in good faith. like if you conform to beauty standards maybe you'd have more financial/job success in her mind. idk. why do mom's do anything.

No. 2320365

just had a 20 minute screaming match with my sister about her getting a pit. 3 years ago she mentioned it offhand and i told her i would refuse to go to her house if she did it. now this year she, her husband and 2 toddlers moved back to our parents' house where i live and just said again she plans to get one next year when they get their own place again. a "medium pitbull mix" is her breed of choice. our argument was fun and a little humorous but i think i communicated my points pretty well. i was too passionate and lost my voice kek but i told her there's a huge difference between a chihuahua nip and a pitbull maul, but she didn't wanna hear it. her reasons for getting one: they're guard dogs and their aesthetics. im already getting chills imagining one of those beasts hovering over my nephews. one of them is autistic and they're both very rowdy and there's no way they won't have problems with that dog. i asked if she believes in the nanny dog myth and she said no but then she tried to say they were "trained to watch kids back then" so yes her dumbass does kekkkkk she even tried the usual argument "its how they're trained and raised" even when i told her that i saw vids of pits ambushing kids from 70 feet away and going directly for their faces. how do i convince this dummy that she's making a grave mistake, she's gotten scammed before and fell that giftcard scam and sent like $800 so i know she ain't smart

No. 2320371

>>2320279
I never understood why people unfriend inactive accounts. What if that friend has been going through it? At least she's reaching out. Not everything is about you. I personally wouldn't bother reconnecting with people who delete me

No. 2320374

>>2320365
Your sister is absolutely being a dumbass about this. I'd keep reminding her every chance I get how reckless that is. I'm sorry you're dealing with this, nona. Bless you for actually caring.

No. 2320381

>>2320371
NTAYRT. Yeah, the fact that she disappeared right after being asked if she's okay and then reached out again after being deleted just makes me think she really went through something. Feels like low self-esteem and something deeper. I feel bad for her too.

No. 2320383

>>2320365
Are you American? If so you're likely safe because so many breeds that just look the part are considered pitbulls, but they're not bred from "real" pitbull fighting dogs line. Especially if they're set on getting a mix.

No. 2320387

>>2319236
yeah i see pregnant women or women with toddlers EVERYWHERE. i'm tired. this ''low birth rate'' thing is bullshit

No. 2320394

>>2320245
Who is in your pic?

No. 2320398

>>2320387
The low birth rate argument for countries like America is just race sperging. It has to be white people having babies with white people or it doesn't count to them.



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