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No. 2262190

a thread to post cringy and bizarre shit from academia, from professors making up shit to top-rated college students who can't read

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No. 2262213

>at her public high school, she had never been required to read an entire book. She had been assigned excerpts, poetry, and news articles, but not a single book cover to cover.
What is the grading criteria that makes these students look so good to "elite schools"?

No. 2262243

>>2262213
literally how

No. 2262260

>>2262213
Tbh, when you even dare to tell the kids to read a whole 80 pages book they get mad and the coordination tells you to resume the book as much as possible.
I don't get why they're trying to frame this like she's some poor victim that wasn't allowed to read a book on her own volition, plenty of kids do that.

No. 2262274

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repost from the covid thread, this woman is a university professor

No. 2262337

>>2262213
>>2262243
Most "elite" schools don't really rely on grading criteria or tests, it's mostly political and nepotistic factors that determine whether a potential student is admitted or denied. The top universities, at least in the USA, aren't focused on education. It's really just a social club with very limited membership, and that membership is often procured through family connections and business partnerships.

No. 2262656

>>2262205
the title alone is grim as hell

No. 2262825

awesome thread idea anon

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Interesting thread! Academia is full of cringe. This week our news told that this non-binary disabled university lecturer showed his self-made and self-starred porn to students on a class about power and and performance in a Finnish art university.

No. 2262841

That phase on Tumblr where people refused to say college or university and instead used academia obsessively was so cringe. Not as bad as people who try to unironically drop the word pedagogy, those people are the worst.

No. 2262847

>>2262838
believe me, I know

No. 2262872

>>2262205
The fact that this article has an audio version at the very top… lol

No. 2262876

>>2262213
My public high school in one of the worst ranked states in the US made us read books cover to cover, that’s insane. I’ve only been out of high school ten years too.

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>>2262927
Link to the article: https://www.removepaywall.com/search?url=https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/23/shakespeare-made-theatre-too-white-male-cisgender/
Let's not be daft, this article is just run-of-the-mill conservative clickbait meant to convince British readers that 'wokism' is going to destroy their culture. From what I've been able to find, the study simply claims that Shakespeare's plays are over-represented in British theater and advocates for the staging of a play by Lyly. The whole "too white, male and cisgender" thing is weird because the field of Shakespearean studies is known for its feminist, queer and postcolonial interpretations, so I suspect the quotes in the article are taken out of context. Maybe I'm wrong, but since the article doesn't link to the study there is no way to verify this (I've tried to look for the study but I couldn't find anything).
The article then features interviews of various conservative personalities, including a Tory MP and an American author (???). Based on the general tone and the insistence on public funding, it's clear that the article was written just to create yet another moral panic and to justify slashing higher education funding.

No. 2263249

>>2262838
Btw the video featured him jerking off and shoving stuff up his ass.

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No. 2263505

>>2263015
and why did it cost £8,000,000?

No. 2263510

>>2262213
Reminds me of when I was in undergrad and an acquaintance complained to me about having to write a five page paper. She had never had to write anything longer than two pages in school and was incapable of finding and quoting sources. Just had no idea how to even do that.

She ended up passing the course because the professor died unexpectedly after the semester ended and the school just gave everyone in the class a passing grade.

No. 2263998

>>2262876
A lot can change in just 10 years in education and a lot has. I taught the same lab course in a major (mid-level) university for about 6 years and just in those 6 years the quality of writing, critical thinking, ability to read etc. in the student pool took a huge nosedive, there were emergency meetings called by faculty members to deal with the lowered skill level of the students and needing to change rubrics/expectations so we wouldn't fail too many of them. One of the biggest issues brought up was that the standards in high school/community college were getting worse year over year, so even though our department was very competitive and all the students we admitted had 4.0 GPAs in high school or community college beforehand, many of them were incapable of reading passages longer than a page or 2 and could not write in full sentences or paragraphs either. It's really hard to remedy that at the college level too even if you have dedicated writing classes (which the faculty I taught the course in didn't).

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>>2263015
NTAYRT but. It's not hard at all to figure out what funding this refers to, as it's stated at the bottom of the article. The project is called 'Diverse Alarums' and nothing has been published from it yet but the project is quite clearly delineated on the website of the university and it indeed looks very 'woke' and like a huge waste of money, especially since like you said Shakespeare plays themselves contain lots of plays on gender roles etc. It's just grifting off the government purse like there aren't much better things to spend that much research grant money on. Picrel.

Highly doubt that as they claim on the website this play from the 1500s
>a cast of characters that includes very few cisgender adult males and a plot that builds towards the celebration of a queer and trans marriage
but what do I know? It sounds like a pretty similar plot to a lot of Shakespeare, girls being disguised as boys because they need to for their safety and bla bla, there is a gay plotline though but of course these retards make everything about being 'trans.'

If you read the article you would have seen that the lead on the research project does not seem to agree with your (and my) perception of shakespeare:
>Writing for the website Before Shakespeare, Andy Kesson, the project’s principal investigator, said that “masculinity and nationalism were crucial motivating factors in the rise of Shakespeare as the arbiter of literary greatness” and that “[w]e need to be much, much more suspicious of Shakespeare’s place in contemporary theatre”.
Yeah that's clearly not taken out of context, that is very clear and it's in line with what the website for the project says as well which you easily could have looked up. God I'm so tired of people always blaming conservative fearmongering for everything instead of just checking if it is true or not, it takes like 5 minutes max. And of course more 'conservative' people will be interviewed to take issue with this waste of taxpayer money, because leftists would never dare criticize a project that is all about trans and queer and critical race studies! FWIW I have no issue with a group getting funding to stage the play, it's the research aspect and retconning a 16th century play as 'trans queer lit' that I take issue with. They could have just given money for someone who isn't a retarded critical theory academic to stage the play instead and they would be more likely to do it justice in its capacity as a play from the 1500s which apparently was one of Shakespeare's biggest influences instead of using it as an opportunity to shit on Shakespeare and promote a TRA agenda. I think this article is extremely relevant to the thread topic tbh.

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This has potential to be a fun thread

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/allyn-walker-professor-paedophile-virginia-b1960427.html
The professor tried to claim transphobia when he got backlash for trying to "destigmatize minor attracted people"

No. 2264188

>>2264146
troons never beating the pedo accusation

No. 2264205

>>2264121
Good lord, who would attend this talk after reading that text wall? Ironically there is a grain of truth to that, I wish people would stop lumping 'LGBT' together as a 'community' too, but he could have stopped after the first half-sentence.

No. 2264479

>>2264121
It’s so embarrassing having to be lumped in with this shit. Let me be a lesbian in peace away from these insane idiots.

No. 2264641

>>2262841
What's wrong with "pedagogy"? I've only heard people using it in an appropriate context and never perceived as just some fancy word. I'd say it's quite normal in my language at least.

No. 2275896

>Is Having Pets Morally Permissible by Jessica du Toit

>In this article, I consider the question of whether having pets is morally permissible. However, I do so indirectly by considering three objections to the practice of having pets — what I shall call the ‘restriction of freedom objection’, the ‘property objection’, and the ‘dependency objection’. The restriction of freedom objection is dismissed relatively easily. The property objection also fails to show that having pets is morally impermissible. However, my consideration of this second objection does lead to the conclusion that we ought to aim at changing existing legal systems and the majority of people's attitudes towards pets such that they (pets) are no longer considered to be the personal property of the humans in whose homes they are kept. But, while it is clear that we ought to aim at ending the practice of owning pets, it is not clear whether we ought to aim at ending the practice of keeping pets. Indeed, I do not to reach a definitive conclusion about the cogency of the dependency objection. However, I argue that this lack of clarity is of little concern at this time as our present moral obligations to pets are quite clear.

No. 2277066

>>2262213
I've had the opposite experience. I'm a junior at an "elite institution" and this semester marks the first time I've ended up reading an entire book for a class. (Plato's Republic)
Have taken plenty of classes up until now with essays and readings but they have all been excerpts, or short texts <30 pages. Maybe profs are obsessed with increasing scope of the class but afraid of backlash for overwhelming workload?
Meanwhile high school english (public) assigned me so many books in full. Stuff I really loved. Maybe senior year they'll pile it on but so far college has been so undemanding and I wouldn't be surprised if it continued. If they're not Harvard they don't expect anything of you ig

No. 2277079

>>2277066
Considering the fact Jazz Jennings is going to graduate from Harvard, I seriously doubt it kek

No. 2277145

>>2262205
>But middle- and high-school kids appear to be encountering fewer and fewer books in the classroom as well. For more than two decades, new educational initiatives such as No Child Left Behind and Common Core emphasized informational texts and standardized tests. Teachers at many schools shifted from books to short informational passages, followed by questions about the author’s main idea—mimicking the format of standardized reading-comprehension tests. Antero Garcia, a Stanford education professor, is completing his term as vice president of the National Council of Teachers of English and previously taught at a public school in Los Angeles. He told me that the new guidelines were intended to help students make clear arguments and synthesize texts. But “in doing so, we’ve sacrificed young people’s ability to grapple with long-form texts in general.”
this article is fucking crazy. i graduated high school in 2016 and we didn't even have that shit yet. i think i got lucky somehow not being born later now. i love reading.

No. 2277158

>>2263998
I went to school abroad for my entire life but am now attending community college in the United States and can notice the difference as well. I was stunned by the much lower standards and expectations. I’ll be transferring to a 4 year university myself once I’m done at CC and am hoping things will be different there. Do you have any recommendations on how to asses the standards/quality of a university before applying when it comes to length of papers/expected reading/testing policies etc? I miss the higher expectations, I feel like the current system isn’t stimulating my good habits but instead building harmful ones.

No. 2277164

>>2275896
>ignore the first and third objections
>the second objection is dealt with entirely by changing the semantic framing
It's an interesting question if you think about it without instantly dismissing it but this is such a worthless article

No. 2277197

>>2262337
To be fair, even if they relied more on standardized tests, those don't really test your ability to read an understand a whole book either. Imo the most efficient way of studying for those is flash cards, not reading the book.

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does this count?

No. 2291598

>>2291595
I'm so confused, I don't even know what this headline is saying

No. 2291605

>>2291598
Coomer fag claims because of female lecturer he liked he had to go and rape a prostitute and then has the gall to say back at people saying hes a fag who should get out of the basement and go get laid even if its "paid" just moid on moid chimpwars

No. 2291621

>>2291605
Wow okay, that makes sense now. By the way the headline was written I thought it was saying he was so attractive he had to see a prostitute, I was like why does he have to pay for sex if he's so attractive. What a pest

No. 2292303

are we allowed to sperg about our college experiences on here? i made the mistake of taking lgbt 101 in college (late 2010s, liberal area)

>professor was a nonbinary moid who used to identify as a gay man until he started dating a tif, which contradicts his own ideology but okay

>starts class by asking our pronouns, first kid on attendance is a normie moid who doesn't know what that means and says "idk." prof they/thems him for the rest of the semester
>makes us do the gender unicorn
>class rule is "don't yuck anyone's yum"
>prof shows us video on pup play, says and "this is healthy"
>one bullet point on second wave feminism: "they did some good stuff but they were terfs"
>prof shows us a video about a moid who makes his wife help him dress like a little girl, we're supposed to support the moid
>quizzes with questions like "what is the difference between bisexual and pansexual?"

not to be a drama queen but i feel like some of the shit my professors "taught" me in college was borderline grooming

No. 2292389

>>2292303
>are we allowed to sperg about our college experiences on here?
of course, anything that has to do with academia or higher education, past and present is allowed

No. 2292407

any anons here that are failing classes and won't be able to finish their academic year? I am on my last university year and i have gone through some harassment and issues both at home and at class that have completely sucked away all the ambition that i had that i just cannot finish this year and im failing my classes. My anxiety has gotten so bad that i even skipped my classes and when ever i tried to study i would just ruminate or i would get nosebleeds from how stressful and traumatic i find college to be.

Now that i flopped this year and didn't finish it, my parents have made it known that they are disappointed and hate my guts and will not finance my education anymore so now i will be going somewhere abroad to work as a minimum wageslave for the rest of my life. Honestly i fucked up my life maybe i should have put in effort even with all the mental stress i was feeling especially when i only had one year left but now that's gone.

Oh well time to wageslave somewhere i guess. I hate how if you don't have a education the only thing you can do is minimum wageslave physical labor.(wrong thread)

No. 2292628

>>2292407
wrong thread

No. 2293066

>>2292303
>one bullet point on second wave feminism: "they did some good stuff but they were terfs"
God nona I'm in uni right now (not specifically gendershit but humanities has devolved into that anyway). My female professor did the exact same thing kek. except she said that what they were writing was so horrible and disgusting and mean to the troons, she (a grown woman who is a professor) had to physically rip the book, and could not finish it. Allegedly, this was Dworkin, who has written practically nothing specifically about troons, so she clearly hadn't even begun to read second wave feminists but was so upset at the idea she had to imagine having a temper tantrum and destroying it kek.

Also kinda blogging but our only Feminist Philosophy course is similarly taken by a fucking he/they septum piercing moid.

Another philosophy course is taken by a brony redditor who draws philosophical links on his reddit about doki doki literature club, a high school girl dating simulator (he is in his 30s-40s), and rambles about how le evil feminists bad!

No. 2293184

>get accepted into the University of Cambridge by some miracle
>attend course
>professor asks us to write our pronouns on our name tag
>female only cohort thank God
>only me and one other student dont write our pronouns

>assignment is to write about a public figure and psychoanalyze their childhood, and deliver a presentation on them

>pick Chris Chan and constantly accidentally he/himming him before swiftly correcting myself knowing there is an enby girl in the class and that if i dont ill fail the course
>get an A
>fucking amazing. thank you Cambridge University I love you please please let me in to do a phd i wont let you down

No. 2293454

>>2293184
wishing you success

No. 2293465

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>>2292389
then this should also count

No. 2293492

I'm doing my bachelors, am in my 30s and I am continuously amazed and horrified by the fact that these 20-somethings cannot read books. This one 23yo dude actually said out loud in all seriousness that he cannot read books, I instantly think he must have some eye condition, but no he just never reads. He whined to our school councelor to get access to the audio book library meant for people with doctor's notes for it. He doesn't have dyslexia, we did screening in our first year for free, he just never reads books, so he never reads for our exams? He is not the only one either, there's at least 3 other men who are loud about not being able to read books, they use A.I for everything or audio books sped up. One day I told someone to look up a term from our 500 page source book and he seriously asked me how was he supposed to just know where that is, he can't read through it all. This school had entrance exams but some people got in with their grades from high school only, so maybe it's that but what the absolute shit is going on.

No. 2293503

>>2292303
>gender unicorn
Is this some kind of metaphor or is this something you learn in lgbt 101?

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>Shoutout to my college profs who told us all that there was about to be a huge wave of job openings as the boomers start to retire, but then as the boomers retired their positions were just eliminated.
>Shoutout to my old coworker who got a PhD so she could stay in academia but then could never get anything but term assistant professor positions, and was now too “overqualified” for other jobs.
>Shoutout to my other coworkers who each relied on their personal combinations of pharmaceuticals, alcohol, and weed to get through the day.
>Shoutout to my last employer who began hiring 10-year term positions so they could minimize the number of researchers qualified for permanent-position benefits.
>Shoutout to the stories of academic fraud across the field, told only after NDAs were signed and cell phones were removed from the room.
>Shoutout to the endless rat race of continually having to prove that you’re worthy to speak, and continually fighting fragile-egoed men who can’t bear the idea of a woman telling him he’s wrong.

As hard as it was to make the decision, I knew it was a good thing to have left academia when watching the beginning of Lessons in Chemistry made my heart race and adrenaline start rushing through my legs. Why didn’t I have enough self-respect to leave sooner?

No. 2293519

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>>2293503
It's an "educational tool" to help give people brain damage

No. 2293542

>>2293465
What the actual shit. This can't be real. These are feds! Its the CIA! Nonnas please tell me it isnt true!

No. 2293566

>>2293519
>Male
>Wants to fuck everything
>Loves nothing
Too many steps just to say male

No. 2293573

>>2293566
DA KEKKKK I never paid attention to that until now holy shit. This particular moid really invented a children's graph to mansplain scrote sluttery levels.

No. 2293577

I had a class this semester that was infuriating because the professor was so bad. The head of the department told us that minority professors are subject to more bias in their reviews, but they genuinely fucking sucked. I've been in school for a few years but now I just feel so embittered by the low quality of instruction.
>any instructional project was just free tutorials by a youtuber
>professor never shared any of our grades during the entire semester
>would just walk around silently or sit at their desk during classes
>slides or online posts made by them were ALWAYS filled with grammar errors and typos (it's a fucking design class, how is this acceptable in higher ed)
>at the end of the semester they uploaded all of our class designs to their own online portfolio, which IMO is like they're trying to get the credit for everything they had almost no influence in making

>>2292303
>not to be a drama queen but i feel like some of the shit my professors "taught" me in college was borderline grooming
It is. I know someone whose adult child is an adjunct professor and they posted online about how excited they are whenever they have autistic students on the cusp of trooning out.

No. 2293578

>>2293465
Holy fuck. The fact that this isn't an Onion clip is blowing my mind.

No. 2293582

>>2293577
>how excited they are whenever they have autistic students on the cusp of trooning out
That's incredibly sick. Even if you aren't a troon hater, how the hell does preoccupation with your students genitals not set off any alarms? "On the cusp" sick and demented.

No. 2293602

>>2293566
fucking KEK

No. 2293610

>>2293566
fucking KEK

>>2293465
I forgot about how hilarious this is, holy kek. How do these people walk to the mailbox without dying?

No. 2293647

>>2293582
Unfortunately they're one of those autistic women who struggled socially in school and never had a relationship until uni, believe their sexual awakening was a massive milestone, and it happened to be getting screwed by a TIM at a women's university so things spiraled from there

No. 2293816

>>2293465
oh my god, do you have any more videos like this im crying with laughter

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>>2293519
topkek they made us do the genderbread persyn at my residential college
>>2293577
in my foundational bio classes i had a lot of the same issues. the classes were taken by multiple professors because no one wants to take foundatioinal stem classes (because the professors are there to do research not manage an auditorium of retarded 18 year olds on their phones). but this meant there was zero consistency in teaching from one "module" to the next. the biggest joke of those classes was that they couldn't even be bothered to give us proper lectures/tutorials, we had one "seminar" per week to go over the "online mini lectures" they posted on our lms which universally had godawful sound quality and slides riddled with errors and typos IF an actual professor made one at all, plenty of them just outsourced the whole thing to fucking jove videos they'd embed. they could not have made it more glaringly clear that they had zero interest in teaching the classes.
the worst part is, despite the fact that it was super insulting, i genuinely sympathise with many of them (some were irredeemably shit). the course is so overinflated, and my country is a major exporter of education so id estimate 50% of students in my stem degree were international and the vast majority of them had limited to no english skills. and i hate to say it because it feeds into my country's racial issues but working alongside them proved that they are almost universally HUGE cheats and plagarists. i know of seven international student expulsions on these grounds at my university last year alone.
also when i requested to work with someone else for a group project once because my assigned partner had extremely limited english and kept copypasting from journal articles into our shared document as her contribution (she didnt even delete hyperlink footnotes), i got reprimanded for being racist and lectured on how in industry ill have to work with people "of different backgrounds".

No. 2293980

>>2293512
This might sound like a stupid question, but how are there no professor jobs? There's so many colleges, and you could even teach globally if you had to.

No. 2294016

>>2293519
>>2293847
Why do these look like they were made for 6 year olds?

No. 2294204

>>2293512
Fuck. I am a postdoc in academia and all of this is true but I can't quit because I don't find anything else as rewarding as my research. I have a year of funding left. I feel like an old Jesuit who realizes that the church is full of sinners up to the Pope himself. I have no soul. I have no soul.

No. 2294264

>>2293980
NTA but I would like to see the answers too. From where I attend school one professor said that the recession in the 2000s (and you could probably add the pandemic now) has currently resulted in a drop in enrollment that will continue. Less students = less money, cut programs, and less full-time positions. I've noticed a lot of people getting hired as adjunct professors, so they are paid per semester credits with no job security.

I'm also wondering if there is just a glut of people getting masters/doctorates for niche studies who just expect to be able to be professors or researchers for careers. I don't really get academic employment and from listening to my coworkers who have pursued masters and doctorates it's like they were just throwing huge amounts of money at higher academia and hoping to get something out of it

No. 2294412

>>2293847
I had a professor for a writing/literature class break down to me about the number of international students plagiarizing/cheating on essays. they would pay grad students to write, and it would be so obvious (they have limited English but the paper is written perfectly and also use grad level analysis and concepts). but the schools love international students' wallets.

at another university we would walk into the lecture hall and it would be littered in flyers written in foreign language advertising cheating help basically, it was wild. and yeah that was an entry level stem course

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>HISTORICAL ERASURE IS VIOLENCE: THE LIVES AND EXPERIENCES OF BLACK TRANSGENDER WOMEN AND GENDER NONCONFORMING WOMEN OF COLOR IN THE 19TH AND 20TH CENTURY
https://digitalcommons.memphis.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3797&context=etd

No. 2306146

>>2293980
>>2294264
All of the above. I studied in a slightly more niche STEM field that puts out too many PhDs for the number of professor positions, plus schools are shrinking in general, plus my field isn’t as easy to monetize as it used to be so there’s fewer jobs in it than there were 40 years ago. In school they’d always wave their hand and say “things are cyclical!” but I think that’s less true this time around.

No. 2306522

>>2294204
read the name of the rose anon kek. praying for us. god help us.
>>2294412
an english professor friend of mine has had the same breakdown to me. hes completely despondent because hes literally not allowed to fail them either, and the university makes it near impossible to investigate plagiarism SPECIFICALLY for these rich international students, if youre a domestic student with the government comping your loans youre held to a much stricter standard.

No. 2306572

You mean this isn't satire? Of course it's written by a woman called Bekky. You must be joking?

No. 2310357

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anything related to judith butler

No. 2310450

>>2310357
yup, all her arguments are circular and she's insufferable

No. 2315368

>>2310357
Ngl I don't understand a lot of what she says because I don't have any background in the humanities and everything I've learned has been stuff I've looked for in my own time, but I never got the point that sex should be abolished rather than gender? Sex is based in material reality, gender is a nebulous psychological thing that varies massively from person to person, troons can't even agree with each other over simple stuff like whether having dysphoria is a trans requirement.

No. 2315426

>>2310357
I find it so fucking funny that she just looks like your average sixty-something aunt but insists on being called theythem.



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