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No. 215278
>>215253>But her loved ones really cared about her, why did they let her go into porn the first place?This is stupid, she was an adult capable of making her own choices, do you think they should have tied her up or something? Or that porn stars don't have family that care for them?
She should never have had the pile on she got, but I do think part of the reason for the bullying was the way she went about it. Had she phrased it all as personal choice and/or a call to arms for stricter STD testing, she likely wouldn't have received the amount of hatred that she did. After all, straight porn stars could likely easily have HIV too and it's a community with a lot of intermixing. It's hypocritical not to want to have sex with someone who did/does gay porn if she's willing to sleep with other porn stars who could be carrying something.
No. 215280
>>215256>I'm sorry, but you can't be a fucking porn star then sperg out about how gays are such a risk to your health without me judging the ever living fuck put of you for being such a retard and a bigot. Gay porn has less strict testing, it's very likely the dude's partners were not tested and it takes time for anything to show on a test. Of course this isn't common knowledge and she also didn't phrase herself well.
Unfortunate ending to an unfortunate story though.
No. 215281
>>215268Except that it isn't just that she was making a personal decision for herself, it's that she was going on about how horrible it was for porn companies to pair women with men who've done gay porn because "omg the gays are gonna give us aids!" and publicly singled out someone in her industry for doing it.
I'm sorry, but it's incredibly homophobic to make a post like that in regards to an industry that, like you said, is already riddled with STDs. This woman has been in 200+ porn movies by 23, she's already put herself at risk literally hundreds of time, yet she has then nerve to single out gays when she has a much higher chance of having something than many people who've done gay porn. The fact the porn industry still casts people who've been in 200+ movies is a far greater health risk than someone whose done a little gay porn.
No. 215284
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if this chick had BPD. Everyone is talking about suicide, but I don't think this is normal suicidal behavior. BPD is way less sympathetic. But it's just my gut reaction and I'm talking about of my ass.
Everyone is talking about how young this chick is, like it somehow makes her automatically naive and too young to understand the consequences of her actions. I'm the same age, and I couldn't imagine responding this way.
>>215268Well if you want a safe job I don't know if porn acting is for you.
Even if the math adds up I don't think she should have been so public about it on twitter. I get she was being an ~adovocate~ but of all the sketchy stuff the porn industry makes you do now you suddenly speak up?
>>215281I agree.
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No. 215294
>>215268>The porn industry is riddled with STDs as it isYeah no doubt, people are acting like everyone is clean and she had no reason to be paranoid about that stuff. I remember there was a case a while back where they managed to spread ringworm a while back due to their non existent sanitary standards. It's an open secret that their already weak standards are especially shit as far as gay porn goes.
People are whining about how homophobic she is but the fact is there IS an STD issue in the porn industry and it's even more pronounced with homosexuals.
>>215286It's not like people were just saying "hey I disagree with what you're saying", major heads in the industry were telling her to kill herself and doubled down when she actually did so. There were undoubtedly other issues going on but reasonable discussion was no longer an option before she killed herself.
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>>215307Why put it in quotations? She's clearly bitter that she got ousted in lieu of someone else and had to make a jab at the gay man who was working with her replacement.
No. 215311
Confirmed bipolar disorder and multiple personality disorder.
>https://hornetapp.com/stories/august-ames-suicide/"Ames having revealed her personal struggles with bipolar depression and multiple personality disorder three months before her death on a podcast: 'Some days I’ll be fine and if I’m not doing anything I’ll get these awful flashbacks of my childhood and I get very depressed and I can’t get out of bed and cancel my scenes for like a week or two,' she said."
No. 215314
Did you guys know her husband used to be married to another porn star who killed herself?
>>215311First of all multiple personality disorder isn't a thing. Maybe the writer was thinking of dissociative identity disorder which probably isn't real either.
No. 215317
>>215314>multiple personality disorder isn't a thingDo you think you have a 'gotcha' moment here?
Dissociative identity disorder was formerly called multiple personality disorder.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociative_identity_disorder>"Dissociative identity disorder (DID), also known as multiple personality disorder (MPD)">https://www.psychologytoday.com/conditions/dissociative-identity-disorder-multiple-personality-disorder>"Dissociative identity disorder, formerly referred to as multiple personality disorder" No. 215319
>>215317That's technically true but it's a good way to make it look like you have no idea what you're talking about.
>>215315That's true and why I'm tired of people blaming bullies for her death. As well as the suicide of every attractive white girl out there.
No. 215323
>>215321How is it bullshit? I just think it's something annoying. Alright I'll admit "MPD" and DID are the same thing.
Either way DID is an incredibly rare disorder that doesn't exist outside of Anglophone countries, so I would be surprised if this chick actually had it.
No. 215324
>>215319jesus your tumblr is showing pretty far away
We've entered an age where it's okay for people to attack someone for a single thoughtless tweet and drive them into killing themselves. Mental illness doesn't show to the outside and not everyone wants to make it their identity like so many SJWs do, so you never know when you're telling a bipolar-DID-patient to commit suicide.
No. 215325
>>215324How is this about tumblr? You're really making assumptions. I actually received a lot of hate from SJWs when I was on tumblr. Like a sane person, I did my best to ignore the messages I got even though I have some mental issues too. And I found that laying low made most people forget about you after a while even if you said really controversial things. People don't have the attention span to keep up these days.
I never said it's ok to send death threats. But people aren't going to stop sending mean messages anytime soon, and everyone has to know that walking away usually solves the issue. I don't approve of online mob justice, but this is the reality we have to deal with.
I don't get it. Is it suddenly ok to tell someone to kill themselves if they don't have a mental illness? And what does DID have to do with suicide?
Some comment made on this imageboard could really set someone out on the edge. Does that mean we need to shut this place down? I don't think so.
I guess I'm a SJW because I think people should try to take control of their behavior. Yeah… that's like the opposite of what SJWs do.
Another thing is I've also suffered from suicidal thoughts. But it's not like there was anything objectively horrible about my life that's made it worse than most people's. Some things had gone wrong, but the main problem is that I have had trouble controlling my emotions. That's it - That's what makes me and a lot of other people different from non-suicidal people.
From what I've read people who follow through with committing suicide have higher impulsivity and fear pain less. That's why men have higher suicide rates than women. It's not because there's something objectively wrong about their lives.
So in the words of Tyler the Creator, "Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Cyber Bullying Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From The Screen Like Nigga Close Your Eyes Haha"
No. 215326
>>215281You're stupid af if you think all they do is "a little gay porn".
Way to try and minimize that. I'm lesbian and hang a lot with other gay people and let me tell you how promiscuous gay guys are, let's not be PC here. It's true, end of story. Gay guys have to navigate dating while being paranoid of HIV and for good reasons.
So it's safe to assume that if you do gay porn, you're likely to engage in gay sex outside of your porn job and be at more risk of catching something.
She's totally within her rights to protect HER health even if it means shutting out a part of the population due to very real risks. She's not pulling that out of thin air. She wasn't saying she doesn't want to fuck black people because it's icky or arabs because something else.
Sometimes you have to chose between offending a part of a population and shutting out someone due to health concerns and worrying about catching a still lethal disease, if you wanna be dumb and put yourself at risk go ahead but don't shit on other people who prefer to protect themselves.
No. 215329
>>215324>be sensitive and delicate towards people who write aggressive tweets, never know who might have a mental disorder>lol but who cares if she said to hell with those gay guys man, everyone knows they all have AIDs …
She didn't care about her health. She killed herself.
She cared about her brief moment of smug superiority up until some people said she was shitty and that delusion came crashing down.
No. 215332
>>215309A lot of men who do gay porn also do straight porn, it's a pretty common thing. The pool of male porn stars is kind of small anyway. I understand why she had concerns especially regarding the issue with testing in the gay porn community, but since there is overlap and other porn stars apparently had no issue with shooting with these men then she should have taken issue with the entire industry, not just the gay side of it. After all, it's pretty easy to pass along a disease between multiple people who have sex every day, or nearly so.
>>215314>Did you guys know her husband used to be married to another porn star who killed herself? Well he has a type I guess. Hope other girls know to avoid the black widow(er).
No. 215335
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The same people who are saying "she's an adult, she can choose to do porn" are calling her a homophobe for choosing not to have sex with a gay man. Men who have sex with men have greater risk of HIV infection. It's not homophobic to recognise that.
None of us know what happened behind the scenes. There are so many problems with the porn industry, yet the sex-positive crowd would rather criticise the women in porn than the horrible agents who don't give a shit about the safety and mental health of sex workers.
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No. 215338
>>215335You can't talk about anal sex being riskier in terms of STD contamination without getting stoned and called a homphobe these days.
I had that discussion about gays being restricted from giving blood in my country and tried to explain that the reason behind it wasn't discrimination (and also that giving blood isn't even a fucking right) but public safety and oh boy, it was a fucking shitstorm.
No. 215339
>>215335>calling her a homophobe for choosing not to have sex with a gay manNo one is criticizing her for her personal decision. Did we read the same tweet anon? She wasn't just like "I wouldn't feel safe doing a shoot with someone who's been on gay porn because it's not regulated enough and increases my chance of infection", if that was all she said, that would be fine. She was putting the industry on blast for pairing them with people who've done gay porn as if they were the only risk to her health.
Also, all of you defending her Tweet keep saying "she gets tested regularly and there's more testing in straight porn", but HIV and herpes don't show up in a test for months. She might be at less of a chance of getting it than a gay porn star who has been in just as many films, but she still has put herself at risk for infection 200+ times. There's no way to truly protect yourself in the porn industry other than always using a condom and taking PREP every time.
So yeah, if she was that concerned with her health, she shouldn't have been doing porn in the first place.
>>215338Yeah, because a guy who has anal sex once can't give blood, but someone who has fucked hundreds of people can. You can't single out gays but allow hyper promiscuous straight people to do it as if they're magically immune. Spoiler alert: straight people get it too.
It's like you guys think gays and those who fuck them are the only segment of the population susceptible to it just because the rate is higher. Also, heterosexual people who engage in anal sex are still allowed to give it. But keep telling me about how homophobia plays no role in the fact that gays are singled out.
>>215329This
No. 215340
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It's funny how much of liberalism is basically this willed, conscious denial of reality (gays aren't insanely promiscuous and orders of magnitude more likely to have diseases, all races commit violent crime at exactly the same rates, all cultures have exactly the same level of respect towards women etc.)
You can't argue with these people either because they simply do not recognize the concept of general trends as being real things. To them, the existence of exceptions in of themselves means that trends don't exist. This way of thinking has its roots in a Medieval philosophy called "nominalism".
Of course, on some visceral level these people do recognize this. E.g. ask them to live in a black ghetto for a few months and they'll balk.
>"To deny the existence of objective reality and yet, all the while, to take account of the reality which one denies."
>- George Orwell
No. 215341
>>215294>It's not like people were just saying "hey I disagree with what you're saying", major heads in the industry were telling her to kill herself and doubled down when she actually did so.It gives you an insight into how warped the morality of the left is. These are people who honestly believe someone who makes off-color remarks about homosexuals or other races on twitter deserve physical violence or even death, but will throw their lot in with "activists" working for death-penalty reprieves for violent rapists and murderers.
The whole morality in the west is sick and twisted in so many different ways that I just think the entire system needs to come crashing down at this point. There's no way it can be salvaged.
No. 215345
>>215339>But keep telling me about how homophobia plays no role in the fact that gays are singled out.Gay men are singled out because they are disproportionately affected by this. We'll never solve the problem when we can't even accept that there is one in the first place. Why does the choice have to be between denying reality in order to not seem homophobic and shit like this: "Gay men are promiscuous and disgusting"?
August Ames drew the line at having sex with gay men. Everyone should respect her decision to say no. It's her choice. But apparently it's homophobic now to not have sex with gay men. How did it come to this?
No. 215346
>>215339Yes, straight people can get it too but it's a FUCKING FACT backed up by STUDIES that gay males are statically more prone to get HIV. I don't care about what gays do in their bedrooms, but I do care about risks of contamination. Anal sex IS riskier. Lack of lubrification makes condoms less efficient and anal sex results in more tearings.
You're like those men who like to cover their eyes about the fact that any vaginal coitus can result in a pregnancy regardless of contraception because they don't like thinking about the risk.
That's just plain stupid.
No. 215349
>>215345Holy shit, people have already said several times they have no problem that she personally didn't want to, but that's NOT what she said in her Tweet. She shat on the industry for ever putting women in a movie with anyone who's done gay porn.
Tell me, would you support a man who insisted that men should never have sex with promiscuous women because their chance of getting an STD from them is higher?
No. 215351
>>215349Well, men can choose not to sleep with someone too. Seems fair.
That's a shit argument.
No. 215352
>>215348Gay men can give blood now so I don't see what that has to do with anything I said.
>>215349>Tell me, would you support a man who insisted that men should never have sex with promiscuous women because their chance of getting an STD from them is higher?It's actually more likely that women get STDs from men but whatever. If men only want to date virgins I'm not going to tell them they're discriminating against promiscuous women. They probably won't get laid a lot but that's their choice.
No. 215359
>>215354I was responding more in the context of August's decision to single out gay men. I can't really discuss the blood donation issue because I have no experience with it. I would have thought there's a questionnaire or something and they exclude all sorts of people based on their responses. Donating blood isn't a right. I don't meet the weight requirement for example.
>>215353So are lesbians who don't want to date transwomen transphobic then? Even if it were transphobic I don't think it even matters. Everyone has the right to refuse sex with anyone for whatever reason and no matter how offended you are by it you don't get criticise that choice.
>>215356Exactly. She mentions the studio and the agent in her tweet who are notoriously unethical. Maybe she was pressured or made uncomfortable.
No. 215365
>>215362Oh yeah, because that wouldn't generate massive cost on already spread thin ressources, right?
By the way it's done, everything is tested, but they mix tanks of blood before they test it. There is no risk in it, but if one sample is contamined, you throw away the whole tank and it's a massive waste. That's why they ask questions to try to weed out people who are statically more are risk (like gays and people doing drugs).
Stop talking out of your fucking ass.
No. 215380
>>215366Of course people don't need to have sex with anyone for any reason. But I think there's a difference between having a preference and putting "Sorry, no blacks, but I'm not racist" on your profile.
And I'm pretty sure the problem of STD rates in porn doesn't have much to do with women being forced to have sex with gay actors. Just saying. Collectively, all the times she had sex with regular actors wasn't talking about? lol
>>215371lol breathplay is dumb
>>215356The prognosis for HIV isn't that bad these days. And a lot of other STDs are becoming untreatable. Why you would become a porn actor if you care so much about your health lmao
>>215349I still don't get it. The industry does a lot of other things to women. And is it like gay porn actors are sloots who deserve to get AIDS in their line of work but women actors deserve something else?
I'm curious about the statistics here. Let's say that the probability of catching HIV from a straight actor is 5% and then catching it from a gay actor is 4 times that.
So if you have sex with five straight actors the chances of catching aids.
P(not A) = 1 – P(A) = 1 - (0.95)^5 = 22.6%.
In this arbitrary example I came up with on the top of my head, it's about the same. It really depends on what the numbers actually are.
No. 215382
>>215366>>215359How many times do people need to tell you guys it has nothing to do with the fact she doesn't want to have sex with gay men? No one gives a fuck who she chooses to have sex with. It has already been explained multiple times that it's about her demonizing the porn industry for daring to pair the pure female pornstars with the ones who have done gay shit. You keep repeatedly ignoring this for some reason.
>>215361Right, because all gay men are sluts and absolutely none of them aren't, so let's just discriminate against every single one of them while we let a girl that's taken hundred of cocks im every hole donate because at least she's not a gay dude amirite?
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Ok after reading her tweets, it's just so dumb. What a non-apology.
Why don't we have people understand you don't HAVE to tweet every thought that comes out of your mind? If you can't handle the heat, stay out of the kitchen. Especially if you are a public figure. I thought that this chick was one of the random people whose tweets they thought were private got public attention. But given how popular she was, she had to have known that her online postings could get backlash.
>>215382>No one gives a fuck who she chooses to have sex with. It has already been explained multiple times that it's about her demonizing the porn industry for daring to pair the pure female pornstars with the ones who have done gay shit. But gays, are like, so gross!!! Omg
No. 215391
>>215386Seriously though, why do women like her word things in such a catty and bitchy way and then backpedal later with bullshit like "sorry it's my opinion and my body didn't mean to offend"? Bitch please, nobody is saying you should be forced to fuck a gay man, it's how you fucking said it.
It's how she acts like being a porn star is a healthy body decision in the first place.
It's how she acts like recruiters don't screen for STDs and that straight/lesbian stars don't have them.
It's how she comes off as jealous and scornful towards gay/bi porn stars because they actually get a lot of work for being able to switch.
She makes a big deal out of all this shit on the basis of "health" and then kills herself because she neglected her mental health enough that petty Twitter comments got to her. It's all bullshit.
No. 215396
>>215326No one would have cared if she didn't tweet about it.
>>215385I think the sad thing is maybe getting to act picky was a way of reassuring herself she wasn't in "real" danger. And people have weird leaps in logic all the time.
>>215393Because someone said something critical of a pure innocent woman. B/c women do nothing wrong. lol
>>215391I think sounding jealous is a stretch but I agree with your points. She looks like one of the girls who are obsessed with being "blunt". I think "it's my opinion" is a legitimate thing to say but it doesn't sound good in the context she wrote it. Very unprofessional.
>>215394No I think they're the kind of people who think writing "No fats/femmes" is perfectly fine because IT'S MY BODY!!!!
No. 215397
>>215388Literally no one is denying this, but you people act like it's the majority of gay men who have it when they don't. They're still very much a minority among them.
>>215395Because pointing out the obvious is not welcome in this thread
No. 215400
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/19/porn-hiv-penis-bleeding_n_3944401.html>Porn Performer With HIV Says Costar Was Bleeding During ShootThis should show you how safe the straight porn industry is
Was it ok she didn't want to have sex with a gay porn actor over safety concerns? I do think so
Did she have to tweet about it? Nope
Was she too young to understand her situation? No
Was she someone who was concerned about her health? No
Is she a tragic figure? Not more than your average porn star
No. 215402
>>215398>women like herExactly, women like her because most women aren't hypocritical sex workers too high on their horse.
>catty bitchyWhich is what she was being.
>backpedalingA very common word used on this website quite often. God, you're reaching here.
>how she said itAnd? You're telling me no cows or flakes posted on this website are ever policed for their tone and the way they word things?
You just want to believe I'm a man because what I'm saying makes you uncomfortable. Better to put my argument in the "incel" box so you can ignore it.
As if every feminist has to embrace the tenet of some loudmouth sex worker who said some dense shit and got a proper backlash for it.
Do you even realize had she said something like "I choose not to work with gay porn stars," I, nor anyone else, would've had a problem with it?
No. 215403
>>215360I get the feeling the same people going on about how evil and diseased gay men wouldn't have given a fuck if she had been bullied to suicide for any other reason. Online bullying only counts if it supports their talking points.
>>215391This is all true though, had she gone about this a different way she would have gotten a very different response, ignoring her hypocrisy (or at best, how short sided she was).
No. 215404
Apparently the guy who she was supposed to film with hadn't done gay porn in about 10 years. Way to accuse some guy of maybe having HIV.
>>215398How is backpedaling an incel word now?
No. 215406
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I was originally going to post this in the tranny thread, then I noticed that this already had its own thread so here I go.
I’m 500% behind real transwomen with actual gender dysphoria who treat cis women with respect and show gratitude for the support they get, yet people like pic related are the reason I also understand TERFs and why they’re so wary of people who call themselves transwiminz. As we can see with this degenerate fuck, some ugly, disgusting and pathetic men who have failed too hard at being men call themselves trans just so they can get away with spreading their putrid hatred of women. Imagine pissing on the grave of a girl who was just bullied into killing herself over refusing sex and having the GALL to claim you’re doing good. This right here is proof that SJW shitstains don’t give a fuck about rape victims and “my body, my choice” unless it suits their narrative. They’ll readily shit on their graves as long as they can get away with it and justify it with “muh advocacy”
I’m so fucking mad I could cry rn
No. 215408
>>215393You know what sounds incel?
Assuming all female sex workers have STDs without proof.
Yet it's okay for you to defend someone who was literally accusing a specific gay sex worker of having HIV.
No. 215409
>>215408Heh never thought of it that way before but you have a point.
>male incel refuses to fuck porn actresses and prostitutes because they have higher incidences of STDs >they're misogynists for stereotyping >female porn actress assumes gay porn actor must have HIV on the basis that gay porn actors transmit on a greater scale>HER BODY HER CHOICE I think in either situation you can agree that if both parties were civil about their preferences or didn't post about them, nobody would care.
No. 215410
>>215406Can't we keep this at one of the bajillion trans threads that already exist? Thx
>>215402Agreed. Some people are reaching so hard every opinion that doesn't jive with their views must be the work of a dirty incel.
No. 215417
>>215413Same old, same old. It's laughable. When they start hanging out with gay men who are more misogynist than any straight guy they ever met, maybe the lightbulb will go off.
But I doubt it.
No. 215421
>>215417Not having sex with a man is literally violence, according to men, meanwhile
triggering someone to suicide is okay, because the person is a homophobe porn actress.
No. 215424
>>215400>>215404THANK YOU. This is why everyone rationalizing it with "b-but the gays have a higher infection rate than heterosexuals!" is being fucking dumb. Higher infection rate among one group of people than another doesn't mean they're automatically a risk to you and the lower one isn't like she was acting.
"I do my homework for my body" lol clearly she didn't.
I'm sad she killed herself and her life was so tragic and riddled with bad decisions that probably stemmed from mental illness, but I'm not gonna pretend she wasn't an idiot just because she died.
>>215408This
>>215417I know a lot of gay men and none of them are misogynistic. Misandrist if anything. Not saying none exist, I'm sure they do, but stop acting like that's a blanket trait they have.
No. 215426
>>215419>whore>faggotsIf you are not an incel you sure sound like one. Back to /pol/.
>>215422Do you realize that if she starts to disagree to do certain things she might be entirely boycotted from this industry, an industry that induces women to endure all sorts of things otherwise they won't get people to buy their dvds. There is no consent in pornography, if you are paid to have sex with someone, it's not consent, it's coercion.
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>>215425Are you still here and accusing other people of being upset incels? LMAO
No. 215438
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>>215429Lol, this. Even in high school, the gay dudes were obnoxious as fuck towards girls but girls would just sit and take it because lel muh sassy shopping buddy.
When you end up on the receiving end of their shit for absolutely no reason other than you're competition in the race for cock then shit stops being fun. Gay men don't give a fuck about us except when they need something.
No. 215442
>>215435>There is no "tact" way to say you don't want to have sex with a gay actor"I prefer to not have sex with gay actors."
But at least you agree it's hard to make a tactful approach, and therefore she should've expected backlash for posting a
public tweet of her opinion.
>muh gays can't ever have flawsWell they can, but that's not at issue here. It's different to say gay men have flaws than make a public tweet accusing one of them specifically of having HIV when she doesn't even know for sure based on a study.
No. 215444
>>215436this thread is a gold mine.
i saw that and literally did a double take to my laptop. wtf lol is that anon talking about, yes, let us defend the poor, downtrodden porn industry that's given us such gems as anal gapes
No. 215447
>>215443Do you have troubles with reading?
I'm saying just because there's a study doesn't mean the INDIVIDUAL she called out had HIV.
You're the retard, tardlette.
No. 215457
>>215410Apologies. Is it okay to crosspost? Didn’t see the reply until 30 minutes had already passed so can’t delete it anymore.
Either way my point still stands. Too many people will take any chance they can get to abuse women when they exert their right to say no despite preaching “NO MEANS NO!!!!1111!1” when it gets them asspats.
Regardless of how it was handled she was openly bisexual so I think anyone with enough brain cells to type on a keyboard would be able to figure that she probably wasn’t a homophobe.
No. 215458
>>215450Do you have a counter argument or you will just call me stupid? Do you want a bucket so you can cry inside?
>>215449There are more than one people in this thread disagreeing with you, you paranoid drug ridden homo dick sucking stupid bitch. Also how was that strawman if we are talking about how the industry cares about scandals? lol
No. 215460
>>215449How dare she make a statement! How dare she! What a rude nasty bitch to not want pozzed loads in her ass.
You are actually an idiot. Go home.
No. 215469
>>215462They do get tested, anon. Just not as often. And it also depends on the company, some make you test every single shoot.
Plus, as someone mentioned before, HIV and some other STDs don't show up for months, so she was already putting herself at risk of getting it as her fucking career. But, omg how dare the agents even consider tainting her sparkly clean cunt with the evil gay death stick.
No. 215486
>>215484Look, I agree, but the tastemakers of this thread have already told us what we should think, and that's to call the girl a stupid whore for being mean to men.
I don't know, all I can say is get in line or go home.
No. 215499
>>215491awww don't get upset!
it's not like you're getting blasted on social media by a pack of nasty gay dudes and their idiot allies desperate to dogpile and virtue signal, it's just friendly chat!
let's make certain it's not about demonization of the porn industry
that would be tragic
???
No. 215504
>>215502that's so sweet tysvm for your concern ~uwu~
bye now
No. 215586
>>215577Posting this without realizing the irony that women like OP will be someone's cockslave about 300 times over as long as a man puts some currency in their thongs.
But sure, fags are the real problem.
No. 215589
>>215575Maybe because the same mentality used to oppress women is used to oppress gay men? Seems pretty obvious unless you're horrifically uneducated.
Also, your anecdotal experience doesn't mean gay men are more prone to misogyny. If we're going by anecdotal shit, I've literally never met a misogynistic gay man in my entire life other than closet cases, and I've known many gays. They're usually massive allies to women. I'm not saying they're incapable of it, but the "gay men hate women!" shit I've seen in this thread as a blanket statement is fucking dumb. How about don't be a bigot? It's not that hard.
And the only reason they're more promiscuous than straight men is because straight men are going for women, who are much less about the "hey, you're hot, let's fuck!" life than men are. Obviously if you have men attracted to men, they're gonna be fucking a lot. Men are incredibly slutty, it's just that women aren't nearly as much so, so men going for women are gonna have a harder time getting laid.
>>215586This
>>215587NTA but their point is obviously that you're shitting on gays for having disgusting sex lives while defending a woman that's been in 300 porn films. If you don't see the hypocrisy in that, you're a fucking moron.
No. 215593
>>215587>are you implying that women are the problem?No you stupid shitbrain.
It's anons like you who bicker and gatekeep about PORN when it's all sexist and misogynistic horseshit no matter which mentally ill bitch or fag is taking it up the arse. Then you rationalize it away when you come upon that realization by saying that it's "empowering" just because the workers get paid for doing degrading shit that ultimately cheapens human beings.
But no, of course, what's making spaces unsafe for you? Fags. What's causing sexism? Fags. Sure.
Not the straight men who consume the porn, demand the porn, and direct the porn. Pornography as a whole isn't the problem, it's fags.
You're fucking stupid and aren't worth the shit off a fag's ass.
No. 215595
>>215593Preach it, anon
I'm so amazed by how fucking clueless and irrational some of the "feminist" anons ITT are
No. 215604
>>215601How sad do you have to be to be jealous of a porn star?
Maybe so many porn stars are lol cows because the same issues that cause people to be cows are similar to the ones that cause people to work in porn.
No. 215605
>>215575How can you call gays disgusting but defend a porn star?
I don't get why I'm expected to be an ally of sex workers. They sure as fuck don't give a shit about me or my problems.
No. 215607
>>215601>jealous of a pornstarMY FUCKING SIDES
Anyway, I'm one if the anons against her tweets and I think shaming sex workers is very wrong. I don't even participate in the threads about sex workers at all.
No. 215608
>>215601>"You guys are just jealous."Said every cow that's posted here.
I'm sure anons are soooo jelly of a dead woman.
No. 215610
>>215604I mean, a lot of farmers are denizens of /cgl/ so would I be shocked if they were jealous of a girl who gets paid to be ogled at and fucked? No, not really considering they're the same girls who wish they got famous the way Nigri, Bellechere, and Yaya did.
>>215605Tbh I don't get why I'm expected to be an ally of gay men when they don't give a fuck about me or my problems. Am I supposed to fawn over them just because they're sassy and dominate the fashion industry with their shit-tier designs or something?
No. 215613
>>215593We (the three posts above) are just saying that women shouldn't be bullied into being gay "allies" just because we fight under a similar flag when gay men are often misogynistic as fuck and don't get called for it because ~omg that would be homophobic~.
They get to shit on women's appearance, say menstruation is disgusting, etc etc and it's okay because they don't see women as potential partners so it's somehow not misogynistic. Oh, and it's apparently also okay when they insult a woman for being with a man they want, or a man they think is gay.
I'll defend gay rights on principle, and I don't hate them as a group, but from personal experience, gay men do tend to be pieces of shit. They're still men, the fact that they take it up the ass doesn't change that.
No. 215614
>>215613>are just saying that women shouldn't be bullied into being gay "allies" Stop with this bullshit strawman already. Nobody is asking her to be an ally.
The argument is about her stereotyping a fag about having a serious STD when he didn't actually have it, meanwhile she's been fucking unprotected straight guys for hundreds of films and there's no telling if she would've, or had, gotten an STD from them already.
If the argument is
>STD tests aren't reliable and that's why she's discriminating against the fag based on statsThen the tests were just as unreliable for all the straight men she fucked as well. It makes no sense.
AFTER ALL, she
could have just said "I don't want to shoot this project," and been done with it. But no, she brought his orientation into it as if it had any merit.
Would it be different if she had said "I won't fuck a black man because they're more likely to have STDs"? Yes you say? Gee, maybe because it's tone deaf and insensitive towards a group of people who've been marginalized before. She based her bias on a way of interpreting statistics that is made irrelevant by modern screenings and preventative medication. If STDs were that spooky for her, again, she wouldn't have raw-dogged so many straight men in the first place.
No. 215619
>>215606She seemed like she had thin skin
>>215610You're retarded if you think Nigiri or costhots are like porn stars
>>215616Except the guy hadn't done gay porn in like 10 years
No. 215625
>>215621What the fuck are you talking about? Notice how the post says "you guys" as in plural. Never is it said there's only one person.
Your side is the one who keeps acting like they're responding to the same person.
No. 215626
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Ya'll discussing this as if "lefties" killed her directly via twitter comments. She was clearly already on edge for other reasons, no one to blame here other than her close ones and herself.
No. 215627
>>215616>yes, the filthy slut had it coming.Lol, well if you want to word it that dramatically–'statistically'–YES SHE DID.
Am I not allowed to use statistics against your arguments? Are we only allowed to bring up statistics when it's in the interest of crushing fags?
People who care about not catching STDs don't work as sex workers having unprotected sex.
>she thinks she's entitled to a safe work environmentWho was denying her the "safe" (lol) work environment?
The gay man would've underwent the same screenings a straight man would have. There's nothing that makes sex with that gay man necessarily unsafe if he's proven to have no STDs. Therefore, she'd be rejecting him solely on the basis that he's a fag–which, since she aired that preference very publicly, does make her sound homophobic.
>she didn't subscribe to your brand of feminismI find this ironic when this WHOLE TIME your side has been accusing me and others of being men just because we don't subscribe to your brand of feminism! And what kind of "feminist" are you that you can't see how pornography is inherently misogynistic and sexist and that one probably shouldn't support it if they're claiming to want bodily respect and choice? It's a joke.
>She had every right to believe thisNobody has the right to go around publicly accusing others of having HIV without proof. I'd raise a brow if she accused someone straight of this as well.
>she had every right to have unprotected sex with some guysSome? Lol, try a lot.
And yes, she has that right but she's a HYPOCRITE for crying about catching HIV from a fag who doesn't have it while banging the other men's she's fucked with less scrutiny just because they're straight. Even men who are "straight" in name have done gay porn. It's so stupid, if everyone is subjected to the same testing then she has as much chance catching an STD from a straight man than a gay one.
>>215621But of course, everyone who disagrees with you must be a samefag. Lmao.
No. 215631
>>215624Lol no one gives a shit what radical and Marxist feminists think
>>215626True
>>215620>What if a guy singled her out and was like "warning: this girl has been in 300 porn movies, she might have aids"? You'd probably be freaking out over slutshaming.That's a good way to put things.
No. 215632
>>215626So I see arguments like this and wonder why the virtue signaling assholes who told her to eat a cyanide pill couldn't just "walk away from the screen" when they saw her tweet. They acted like her venting over being replaced because she wouldn't fuck a gay man suddenly meant their marriage rights would be taken away and they'd be thrown off rooftops. It was ridiculous. A lot of the tweets were deleted once it came out she killed herself because people were too much of a pussy to admit they said nasty shit to her. But the people tweeting at her were overreacting.
I feel bad for her. I listened to that podcast she was on and apparently she was molested by her grandfather and when she opened up about it to her father, she was told she was lying. She also tried going to therapy but felt they immediately dismissed her issues because she did porn. Sounds like a lot of posts in the vent and confession threads yet everyone here is attacking her being pushed to the edge.
The hypocrisy in this thread and about this situation over all is appalling.
No. 215633
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>>215632>assholes who told her to eat a cyanide pill couldn't just "walk away from the screen" when they saw her tweetIrrelevant, I wasn't defending anyone.
>I feel bad for her. Cool. No one is trying to change your mind on that.
No. 215634
>>215632>So I see arguments like this and wonder why the virtue signaling assholes who told her to eat a cyanide pill couldn't just "walk away from the screen" when they saw her tweet. No need to get on your high horse. Why does anyone here get upset/annoyed at what lolcows do instead of ignoring here?
>But the people tweeting at her were overreacting. Yeah but suicide is even more of an overreaction.
>Sounds like a lot of posts in the vent and confession threads yet everyone here is attacking her being pushed to the edge. What does this have to do with anything? It still means most of her suicide had to do with her mental health issues, not "bullying".
>The hypocrisy in this thread and about this situation over all is appalling.How do you know who is a hypocrite and who isn't? You don't know any of my beliefs that's for sure.
SJW, incel, or whatever, just don't kill yourself and learn how to deal with a situation like this. Or think about what you say if you don't want blowback.
No. 215648
>>215641Acting in 300 pornos doesn't mean disregarding completely your health (and she was negative after all that, she probably was caring about this).
It's always funny how liberals wants women to have choice but only those they deem OK. Being in 300 porns = suddenly you can't refuse anything because you've already put yourself in danger.
Next, you're going to tell us if a woman is raped at a party, she shouldn't make such a fuss if it happens a second time, because at this point she was going at parties and shit, so she shouldn't be whinning about the possibility of getting rape?
No. 215653
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>>215648They're just gonna reply with, "DON'T MAKE DIS BOUT RAEP!1!1!!" and avoid the situation entirely while accusing everybody else of not understanding them and having an agenda. Like god forbid you see through bullshit. Must mean you have an agenda.
No. 215659
>>215641>>215634>>215638>>215633And many more, but I'm not bothering to scroll–
You are the most repellent samefag I've ever seen. Stop sperging. You were at it all day yesterday and now you're back for another try. How about you accept that a bunch of people here disagree with you? You have so much self loathing and it's really sad.
No. 215662
lol this whole thread is a dumpster fire filled with virtue signallers engaging in another round of cannibalizing their own, THAT DEAD GIRL WAS A WHORE NO1CURR, just lol
>>2156333edgy5me
No. 215666
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>>215648>Acting in 300 pornos doesn't mean disregarding completely your healthNo one claimed that. Acting in gay porn does not mean disregarding your health either. Anon just pointed out it's hypocritical to assume having 300+ straight dicks in all of your holes is less risque than having gay pooper sex once.
>Being in 300 porns = suddenly you can't refuse anything because you've already put yourself in danger.Anyone can refuse sex for whatever reason, I think it was said enough times already.
>>215660>They think your cunt stinks like rotten haddock.You seem to have some personal issues.
No. 215675
>>215663We're self-hating because we're not in denial that it's fucking dumb to do 300 porn films if you're so fucking paranoid about getting STDs? We're self-hating because we aren't delusional enough to not see how publicly calling someone out for possibly having HIV because they did gay shit ten years ago is homophobic? We're self hating for pointing out it's hypocritical for someone to do that when they themselves are high risk since they've been in hundreds of porn films?
You guys are fucking crazy. Like for real.
>>215666We'd have better luck talking to a wall. These idiots are just parroting how we're wanting this girl to be forced to have sex against her will, despite that's been debunked 100 times now because they have no argument and don't want to face the music that they're fucking homophobes.
No. 215676
>>215659One of those posts is mine and I'm none of the others.
Please fuck off with the calling samefag on everyone who disagrees with you.
No. 215682
>>215648>Being in 300 porns = suddenly you can't refuse anything because you've already put yourself in danger.No, but it means you're a massive hypocrite for shaming the industry for pairing women with former gay porn actors and saying a specific person is a risk based on the fact he did it
Why are you people so hellbent on ignoring every single time we say that we don't care she personally chooses not to have sex with gay porn actors? You act like this is what the entire conversation is over when what we're talking about has been clarified time and time again. Yet that's the thing you choose to zoom in on and one of you even reached to the stars to say we were enabling rape, despite constant reassurance we don't fault her for not sleeping with people she doesn't want to. You act like that's all she said in her Tweet, like there was nothing else said.
None of you ever addressed a question in a previous post: how would you feel if a man posted a warning telling people to not sleep with her because she has been in 300 porn films and might give them an STD?
No. 215693
>>215679How is bullying someone to death freedom of speech?
Well, I suppose you are american and you guys can be racist and sexist in public with few to no consequences.
No. 215695
>>215693Who said anything about bullying someone to death? You guys have done nothing in this thread beside put words in everyone's mouths. I don't believe telling someone to kill themselves should be considered free speech, but criticizing them for what they sure sure as hell is.
>Well, I suppose you are american and you guys can be racist and sexist in public with few to no consequences.Wtf, I was literally saying that in reference to those types, including fucking homophobia, but that one doesn't seem to count to you.
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>>215693>How is bullying someone to death freedom of speech?Saying mean things on Twitter isn't "bullying to death."
>you are american and you guys can be racist and sexist in public with few to no consequencesBut airing discriminatory stereotypes about a gay person and accusing people of having STDs is a-okay in your book, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm~?
Maybe this is a low key troll at this point. Nobody is actually this thick in the head.
No. 215699
>>215677>>215679This
>>215693>or else they may get attacked by others. >This is what people need to expect! >If you can't handle social media or can't deal with different opinions, then don't talk about certain issues or don't tweet at all. So… people should expect bullying and harassment? The ones who should police themselves are the people expressing their opinions, not the bullies? Wow, that's nice. Good thing we have these nice, brave, tolerant social justice warriors fighting for us.
Maybe THEY shouldn't be using social media if they can't deal with different opinions without attacking whoever disagrees with them and telling the person to kill themselves?
No. 215714
>>215699>So… people should expect bullying and harassment?You got it.
Substitute a gay man for any other kind of minority group and it's easy to see why people would take offense to a negative opinion with poor logic.
>"Did you know black people are more likely to have HIV? Haha, well good luck to the porn actress fucking one tomorrow. I care too much for my health to fuck blacks."You're telling me you wouldn't expect anyone to find that racist? It
is a statistical fact that black people carry the biggest HIV burden.
So you can stop pretending like extreme opinions don't beg for backlash.
Notice you have no sympathy for the gay guy who actually didn't have HIV, hasn't done gay porn in a decade, but still was falsely stereotyped by her.
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>>215714>Notice you have no sympathy for the gay guy who actually didn't have HIV, hasn't done gay porn in a decade, but still was falsely stereotyped by her.Yeah, but homophobia plays no role in their thought process at all. Say otherwise and you support rape.
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>>215699>So… people should expect bullying and harassment?Can't believe you're asking this on an imageboard. Yes, it's the internet. The internet is cruel.
>Maybe THEY shouldn't be using social media if they can't deal with different opinions without attacking whoever disagrees with them and telling the person to kill themselves?Maybe they shouldn't. Still, have to expect it. Especially if you're a sensitive person.
>>215726>Yeah, but homophobia plays no role in their thought process at all. Say otherwise and you support rapeI was with you until the last sentence. How do you even connect supporting rape to this.
No. 215743
>>215726Right?
If anon thinks mean tweets are bullying, then she's the biggest bitch for slandering someone by saying they must have HIV. Afaik it's a pretty serious charge to accuse someone of having it and trying to criminally infect people.
No. 215753
>>215682I adressed it and said it you would seem fair to me. Being a man leave you with the choice of deeming something to risky to do, just like being a 300+ set pornstar.
Also good grief, so I'm guessing nurses not wanting to get HIV and asking for strict security measures are massive hypocrites? They shouldn't draw blood daily if they were so afraid!
Also stop making it about the fact she supposedly was singling out one guy. She wasn't naming him, she was making a point about not wanting to do a certain thing. Yeah, maybe that guy wasn't positive, who knows. Gay guys are still statically more at risk and denying it is horse shit.
No. 215756
>>215753>guessing nurses not wanting to get HIVAre the nurses fucking the patients too?
But seriously, nurses need to assume precaution because there are pathogens that are contagious even after they are exposed to air, and they are not able to test patients beforehand like a porn star is able to get test results before fucking. Your analogy doesn't work because nurses take precautions for
everyone, and don't discriminate their level of caution because of the patient's sexual orientation, race, or gender.
>she wasn't naming himShe named the event. Doesn't take a high IQ to figure the guy and girl featured would be the people she vaguetweeted about.
>she was making a point about not wanting to do a certain thingBecause he was a fag.
>gay guys are still statistically more at riskAnd black people are statistically more at risk too.
As are drug users.
And people who raw dog without protection.
But we won't hear her object to people with those parameters because they're not fags.
You're the one in denial and it's honestly sad.
No. 215757
>>215740I know the internet is cruel, but we're not talking about imageboards here, we're talking about social networks. Maybe you haven't left your room in a while, but out there we have normies populating facebook and twitter en masse. These people don't know as much about the internet as we do, saying "welp they should know better" is retarded.
Also, we're talking about SJWs and people concerned with "bigotry" here. You can't call this girl a hypocrite then turn around and say that it's fine for politically correct people to bully someone for not being perfectly PC.
No. 215758
>>215757>bully someone for not being perfectly PCQuit trying to minimize what she did. She accused someone of having HIV and then tried to hide behind a bullshit, irrelevant statistic because she didn't want to admit she's prejudiced against gay men.
You can't say statistics mean something and then ignore the fact that she had sex with black men and fucked unprotected because there are, conveniently, statistics also showing that black men have higher rates of HIV and that unprotected sex leads to more STD transmissions.
She was full of shit, and now you're full of shit. Full circle.
No. 215763
>>215757
>Also, we're talking about SJWs and people concerned with "bigotry" here. You can't call this girl a hypocrite then turn around and say that it's fine for politically correct people to bully someone for not being perfectly PC.That statement ends the thread, but don't expect anyone here who's REEEEEEEing to hear you. This thread is teeming with salty SJW's who can't let the thread die because they need to prove to you how wrongthinky you are.
It's not their fault. They're about as bright as a religious zealot. That's the other reason they can't walk away. They're proselytizing right now, and you're just supposed to sit there and nod like a good little idiot.
Oh well.
No. 215776
>>215768>>215769Nobody said that retard. See
>>215775 if you're still too dumb to fucking get it.
No. 215779
>>215756Nurse here: we DO take extra precaution with known HIV+ patients, as well as anyone carrying communicable diseases. Hospitals screen for that sort of thing based off of suspicion. Is that wrong, too? We don’t treat them like a regular patient. There are always more precautions the higher the risk. It’s why hospitals and offices usually have anti contamination rooms and gear for people with stuff like TB, or C Diff- and why no visitors are allowed to those hospitalized with such a thing.
Not everyone gets the same treatment. That doesn’t even make sense. You bet I’m wearier taking care of someone with a communicable disease, rather than something like cancer or heart disease. But I do it because it’s my job, and most importantly: my choice.
No. 215781
>>215770>She didn’t want to have sex with someone- full stop.She didn't just say she didn't want to fuck a gay dude, or better yet have kept that preference to herself. She's the one who had to try to explain her way out of looking homophobic by bringing up statistics. It matters because SHE IS THE ONE who made it so statistics are what drives her sexual choices, which we've clearly debunked if she actually gave a fuck about that.
Sorry, but you can't get out of that by saying "who cares."
>after the agency she was working with neglected to inform her of one of her deal breakersIf they didn't inform her then how did she know who it was?
>in no way, shape or form did she openly condem all gays to burn in HellNon-argument because you have nothing else to strawman about. Nobody in this thread claims she wanted gays to die.
>she didn't have to fuck a gay guy to prove she's socially with itAnother non-argument strawman. Nobody is saying she should be forced to fuck a gay man. She just shouldn't have tried to reenforce her preference with sloppily done cherrypicking of statistics and an empty concern about her health when she's done statistically riskier sex scenes. That's what makes it bullshit and makes her homophobia so transparent.
>people who went after her are retardedPeople should probably stop the edgelord shit like telling people to kill themselves, but they had every right to voice their opinions like she did aside from that. Free speech works both ways.
>If I don't want to fuck a red headWell are you going to abuse a statistic you pulled out your ass and pretend you have standards about STDs after you've let about 500 tramps root you in the ass without a condom? Probably not.
No. 215784
>>215779You're twisting the argument and clearly didn't read it.
Initial intake: You know nothing of that person's communicable diseases. You don't know that they're unhealthy or not. Therefore, regardless of suspicion, you handle
everyone with precaution.
>"But but muh containment wards and limited visitors after we knowwww"And? Once porn stars are found to have severe STDs like HIV+ they're often not recruited or allowed to work with negative persons. And then, they too, are forced to take precautions like wearing condoms and taking medications if they decide to continue their career.
No. 215786
>>215781I can’t really assume anything about the company other than she requested to not work with gay guys, and they gave her the actors name right before the shooting. She’s entitled to know who she’s working with, in the same regard she can choose not to work with them.
It doesn’t matter if her rationale was a statistic. The statistic is true. Gay men carry a higher risk of transmission. It’s not cherry picked, it’s a fact. It’s why there was an AIDS epidemic in the gay community in the 80’s. It’s why sexual health is something incredibly important, and sexual health clinics exist with AIDS prevention, specifically for the queer communities.
Most sexual health clinics/classes that focus on all sexual health don’t have as big of a focus on it, for veritable reasons.
She’s allowed to pick that statistic and be uncomfortable with it.
What should she have done? Why isn’t she allowed to be vocal about not wanting to fuck gay dudes?
For the sake of argument: if she hated gays, who actually cares? She didn’t say anything other than she was uncomfortable with the situation she was in.
No. 215791
>>215786>I can’t really assume anything about the company other than she requested to not work with gay guys, and they gave her the actors name right before the shooting.Maybe the company had no reason to believe he still identified as gay considering his last shoot was over a decade ago.
>The statistic is true.Nobody is saying the statistic isn't true, but it's irrelevant considering the amount of screenings that porn actors go through. Today's HIV rates are nothing like the 80s.
Why will you hold others to standard about this gay man statistic when other statistics such as black men having high HIV transmission rates, and unprotected sex having high transmission rates, goes unchecked to her and to you?
Those statistics aren't false either.
>She’s allowed to pick that statistic and be uncomfortable with it. Sure, but she looks like a hypocritical moron as she has unprotected sex with a bunch of black guys.
>What should she have done? Why are you acting like she was forced to Tweet about it? Why are you implying that her sexual preferences must be aired publicly and have a gay person shamed because an agency didn't give her the disclosure?
>if she hated gays, who actually cares?I presume other gay/bi people who are tired of industry stereotypes.
>She didn’t say anything other than she was uncomfortable with the situation she was in.…
"whichever (lady) performer is replacing me tomorrow for @EroticaXNews, you're shooting with a guy who has shot gay porn, just to let cha know. BS is all I can say. Do agents really not care about who they're representing? #ladirect I do my homework for my body."
The word "uncomfortable" isn't even in that Tweet. She was just being bitchy towards some rando gay man because the agency screwed her. She didn't have to imply he might be HIV+ to get her point about not wanting to work with gay people across.
Come the hell on.
No. 215792
>>215791Gay men who shoot gay porn, (assuming he’s gay) also have gay sex with other men. Regardless of who he’s sleeping with now, if he wanted to donate blood, he’d have to answer that he has, in his lifetime, had sex with men.
Even if his prior shoots were far off, I find it hard to believe he’s been celibate for 10 years. Being out of the business for 10 years would make me MORE inclined to side with her, in that any standard he once had for regular testing (which is actually different in gay porn) has gone to the wayside, and only done when he felt necessary, whenever that may be. Should he have contracted HIV or certain diseases a few weeks ago, it wouldn’t have shown up on an immediate panel for the shoot. She’s 100% right to be weary in that regard.
We have laws in place for gays to not donate blood, either. For the same reason.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/banned-life-why-gay-men-still-cant-donate-blood-6C10622947This is a pretty good article on that topic. It takes 7-10 days on a test to show up if you’re HIV positive now, for things like a blood donation. We don’t know when he took the test, how long they waited to view the results, or when his last unprotected sexual encounter had been. Or even if he was exposed at all.
Why does it matter how many black cocks she took? We still get in a car and drive, every day. It’s the most dangerous form of transportation, and everyone does it. You don’t want to die, I assume. So why drive?
Most people put on their seatbelts, though. For safety.
This is what she, and statistics say will keep her safe: not having sex with someone whose also had gay sex with a man.
She’s allowed to be mad at the agency that didn’t give her all the important information about her performing partners.
I don’t get why we have to keep bringing up that she fucks black dudes. They’re still not as high of a risk for AIDS as gay men. Admittedly, they’re higher, but they also wouldn’t have the same leisure sex that’s prevalent in the gay community.
No. 215793
>>215791
>What should she have done? Why are you acting like she was forced to Tweet about it? Why are you implying that her sexual preferences must be aired publicly and have a gay person shamed because an agency didn't give her the disclosure?
Also: why is pointing this out shaming the guy? How does not wanting to engage in statistically riskier behavior SHAME him, he who was not named?
When I read the story I didn’t give 2 shits who was, or wasn’t fucking who. I just didn’t get why the company wasn’t forthcoming about what she seemed invested in. In the end, that’s what was important.
It’s almost as if the porn industry is built on the exploitation of women, and no one actually cares what their preferences are! I was always more concerned with WHY her preferences are being disregarded, in lieu of some fictive narrative where we all need to be 100% perfectly monogamous, and never engage in any risky behavior in order for the idea of self preservation to carry merit.
Effectively, you’re saying that her experiences as a porn Star have made her drive to protect herself from harm less valuable BECAUSE of the black dicks she’s ridden.
I don’t know where to start, the misogyny or blatant racism! /s
No. 215796
>>215792>poor analogies againLol, anon they simply don't work.
Just because the US doesn't allow gay men to donate blood (yet) doesn't mean other countries don't, or that as long as they meet certain requirements.
If that same gay man wanted to donate blood in Canada, he could granted he was at least 1 year celibate from the last time he screwed another man. Do you happen to know what a "deferral" means?
Look it up.
And do you know why countries are easing up on blood donations from high risk groups? Because the screenings are effective and efficient and the demand for blood is too damn high to be turning people away based on oogey boogey stereotypes.
Now, to address other things:
>Should he have contracted HIV or certain diseases a few weeks ago, it wouldn’t have shown up on an immediate panel for the shoot.As it would for anyone else straight or not.
>Why does it matter how many black cocks she took? Because behind gay/bisexual men, black people are the second highest group to contract and transmit HIV in the US.
https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/group/racialethnic/africanamericans/index.html
>So why drive?Is taking black dick–no, scratch that–is being a porn actress having unprotected sex with anyone not gay as essential as driving? Nah.
>most people put on seatbelts for safetyMost people wear condoms and take medications if they don't want to contract HIV.
>statistics will keep her safeThen statistically she should've stopped being a sex worker.
>she’s allowed to be mad at the agencyDidn't say she shouldn't be.
>black dudes are not as high of a riskDoesn't matter. A risk is a risk if she wanted it to be about her health. But she didn't care, she killed herself.
>>215793>why is pointing this out shaming the guyJust because someone belongs to a group doesn't mean they're infected with HIV? She's based her decision to not fuck gays on that they may have HIV. She didn't have to name him for people to figure out who it was shooting that day and for them to associate his identity with questions about his HIV- status. Power of suggestion, dear anon.
It's like high schoolers accusing the promiscuous girl of having an STD because she had a few sex partners (statistically 'true,' but not necessarily the case AND a stereotype).
>It’s almost as if the porn industry is built on the exploitation of women.But huzzah as long as they can say they've got their money while others suffer for other reasons? That's not the only problem with porn industries.
>why are her preferences being disregardedAgain, for the umpteenth time, nobody is saying she should be forced to fuck gay people. But that doesn't justify unfair generalizations and being untactful when airing those preferences publicly.
>you're saying that her experiences as a porn star have made her drive to protect herself from harm less valuableAs a matter of speaking–again–if she cared about her bodily health and STD statistics, she likely would not be a porn actress. When you join certain occupations you accept that there is risk involved.
Scenario: A cop wants to patrol in a black neighborhood, and statistically, black people are responsible for more crime. Does that give the cop the right to racially stereotype and be more aggressive towards blacks on the generalizations that they may be more difficult and criminal? What's that? That's
racist you say…?
>misogynyHow? A porn star has done more to promote misogyny than I ever have with simple lolcow posts. You're reaching.
>You're a racist for bringing up black statistics…but it's okay for her to bring up gay statistics and she's not being homophobic?
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>>215253>>215796 Honestly? I’m done. They’re not poor analogies, you’re just not very bright, to the point where you didn’t even see the /s in my post about the racism or misogyny.
You seriously don’t get why she’s allowed to pick and choose her sex partners based on what she believes is right?
I hope you’re never in the position where picking a sex partner is condemned by your own need for safety. The whole thing is ludicrous.
She’s guilty of being a porn Star, not wanting to fuck a particular group of people. That’s all. Who cares.
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>>215799Yeah, easier to call me dumb than admit I have a few points you can't effectively refute.
>You seriously don’t get why she’s allowed to pick and choose her sex partners based on what she believes is right? Omfg I need those little clap emojis in between the words lmao.
For the LAST time: NO. ONE. IS. SAYING. SHE. MUST. FUCK. FAGGOTS.
She's fucking dumb though to believe she's at higher risk for HIV transmission from a screened gay dude than any other of the straight men and black men she's fucked unprotected. If she gave a shit about her bodily health and used statistics to pick what's safest, she wouldn't be a sex worker.
You tell ME what's "incorrect" about that statement. If not, piss off with your self-righteousness.
>who caresYOU DO.
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>>215314>DID isn't a thingAre you just fucking stupid and like to pretend tumblr makes up mental illness terms or something? It's an actual medical term and all you have to do is take 10 seconds of your time to look up a legitimate documentary on Youtube. Just because it's uncommon doesn't mean it does not exist. Just take two seconds to educate yourself before spitting out things you know nothing about.
>>215311DID tends to happen in extreme cases of abuse, so I think it's very troubling she was diagnosed with that. The "multiple personalities" are really just states of disassociation, because it's like the mind is stepping back to protect itself as best as it can. She said she was molested by her grandfather and her mother was bipolar and abused her. It's likely she had "fronts" when she went through her worst episodes with them.
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>>215836Yeah, 'cause public lynching is in no way done to force people to do things against their will (and a fortiori people like porn actress who depend on public image), right?
People can do exactly what they want as long as they don't wrongthink out loud.
It's their choice ! They'll just get told to kill themselves, no prob, it's only a gentle reminder not to express their personnal choices regarding having sex in public.
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>>215800And you don't care? You've dripped caring all over this thread, you greentexty samefag. I hope you make an error of judgment in the future that destroys your entire fucking life. I genuinely do.
Merry Christmas!
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>>215859>samefag I hope you die Lmao just hide the thread if you're so
triggered geeeeeez. Never said I don't care btw. You're the one who asked, damn.
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>>215845Another thing that's been clarified multiple times to you guys that you wont listen to is that no one here agrees with shit like telling people to kill themselves. No one here isn't sad she died. However, it did deserve criticism, just not at the level some people took it to.
>>215859Way to be above the people who attacked August