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No. 210748

Can we have a thread for all aspiring artists of lolcow to share tips, give each other advice and talk about fave art supplies!

I've always loved drawing but I felt really unhappy with the results. I have zero ability to draw things how they look like and not how my brain tells me I should draw them. I got so frustrated and depressed I stopped. I wish I could have fun with drawing again.

How can I get better?

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>How can I get better?

Doing studies (of photos, master paintings, real life, etc.), using underdrawings, drawing/sketching every day, and pic related. Also, not being too hard on yourself. The grind is frustrating, but if you practice a lot you'll see improvement quite soon and feel rewarded, then be motivated to continue (hopefully).

Though, I have the same problem. I don't draw as much as I want to because I let negative thoughts talk me out of doing it. It's self-sabotage. Gotta force yourself to slap away the doubt and draw.

No. 210764

Yeah, this. Just keep practicing and remember to draw from life (or maybe some realistic art like William Adolphe Bouguereau's stuff) and not your korean puppet shows or something. If you want to try something more stylized and ambitious, you should wait until you have a decent understanding of anatomy and perspective and shit first. It comes to some people slower than others, but it's always worth it in the end.

Lots of the artists in the bad art thread are still learning and instead of learning properly, they go straight to style and completely skip the boring technical stuff. That's usually why their art looks like shit (though that also has do do with their style being unoriginal and ugly).

That might not be true for everyone, but I don't think I've seen any cases where it wasn't.

No. 210765

What fundamentals should I practice if I want to start doing animation?
I heard about the bouncing ball and the walking sack, but can't remember the rest.
There isn't enough information about these practices too, what should I focus on or try to avoid?
I want to perfect my animation fundamentals before starting any project

No. 210778

is it ok to ask for resources here? like art programs, brushes, video lessons etc?
question - what do you guys think about pirating when it comes to art programs and things that are related to that? do you think it's wrong or are you like whatever?

No. 210780

I believe the biggest issue you have here is mentality. Acquiring drawing abilities is something that takes years and years and tons of failures, so you have to be mentally prepared to accept failure all the time and move on. Your chances of making it as an artist are not going to go down by making bad drawings, they will, however, go down if you can't deal with the bad drawings.

We constantly compare ourselves to our artistic idols based on what they chose to show us, but sometimes we forget that behind those masterpieces are hundreds, thousands, millions of shitty drawings. The thing that sets them apart from us is not that they were blessed with some magical ability, but how they were capable of not letting bad drawings drag them down.

Also, don't fret over not having a shift of mentality in 30 minutes. It's also something which will take time and grow as you grow. We all have a few funks here and there where we feel bad about making shitty art. Just don't let it get to you too much. Just start somewhere, go make so bad drawings.

For the technical advice, don't run away from boring exercises. Besides books by authors like Andrew Loomis and George Bridgman, look up Proko's playlists on Youtube, like "Drawing Basics", or the extensive instructive video library on the website Ctrl+Paint.

Best regards, an Anon who thinks you can do it.

No. 210781

I think it depends on your situation. If you're young and broke, do it. Just remember to pay for your stuff when you're able to afford it.
I just recently started paying for Photoshop.

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There was already an Art Thread, but it was pretty dead. There are some other information there though, it might be useful for you to read it a bit.


fug i don't know how to link to it properly, apologies

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDqjIdI4bF4 (very good video about principals of animation)
Here are some goof books about animation books I know:
The Animator's Sketchbook How to See, Interpret & Draw Like a Master Animator
The Animator's Workbook Step-By-Step Techniques of Drawn Animation
Animated Life A Lifetime of tips, tricks, techniques and stories from an animation Legend
pretty sure you can find them on amazon (or if you're not into spending the $$ just do some googling i'm sure someone out there uploaded them)

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Anyone from /las/ here?

No. 210788

>what do you guys think about pirating when it comes to art programs and things that are related to that?
I pirated everything I have except for brushes, which I don't mind paying for. I'm not doing anything commercially nor do I post my art online so I feel like a non-entity. My college also has creative cloud available for the students to use so even if I didn't download the software I would just use a computer at school instead.

Like the other anon, I'll start paying once I'm in a decent financial position. For now I'm using an older version of cc that I know is compatible with all my brushes, whereas cc18 has a lot of new features that might not work with them.

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Another thing I liked about paying for PS was that Creative Cloud now made all the Kyle Webster brushes available for free for CC members

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Yeah, and photoshop 18 is also going to have a feature like lazy nezumi that removes the jaggedness from drawing strokes along with a brush box to organize tools.

I already have all of kyle's brushes and the brush box for 17 but all these additions make 18 worth paying for imo.

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Crap, I already bought Lazy Nezumi…
Altho Lazy Nezumi has a few features other than stabilization, like straight line/diagonal rulers and circles and stuff.

No. 210797

kyle's brushes are such a blessing, i wanted to cry when I found out they'll only be available with creative cloud from now on. I have an older version of photoshop so no more new kyle brushes for me fml

No. 210798

Do I need special pencils to start drawing? Could you tell me which sort of pencil is ideal to start with the basics?

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You can definitely just use HB if you want, but pencils are pretty cheap and I'd recommend picking up a few. My personal favortes are 4-6B pencils because they're soft and dark, and allow for more control over value.

I'd grab a few 3b-6b pencils personally.

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there are super cheap sketching pencil kits with almost every pencil you'll possibly need in about every art store I've visited. you probably won't even need all of the pencils, but you'll have them just in case and they work just as well as the expensive singles sold by the bigger art brands.

seconding >>210799, you'd probably get the most use out of the 3B-6B pencils.

it really does depend on how you feel using them, though. I know an artist that exclusively uses 4H-9H pencils. personally i think she's insane, but the results speak for themselves - it's what she finds most comfortable to use and she creates amazing pencil drawings. experiment.

No. 210804

Thank you! I'm going to get myself some of these pencils then!

No. 210805

>is it ok to ask for resources here?
Of course.

> what do you guys think about pirating when it comes to art programs and things that are related to that? do you think it's wrong or are you like whatever?

I use free software. But it's fine to pirate if you have no spare money. $30 a month is too much, imo.

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> I use free software.

I was thinking of doing the same. Do you use Krita?

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Yeah, i personally think it's great, especially for painting. A lot of free customizable brushed too.

No. 210809

I heard the same from others. I'd rather not be dependent financially on software even though it's just $10, I hate the subscription model that adobe introduced some time ago.

No. 210813

Does an ex-lassie count? I dropped out from quitting art all together last year, but I really enjoyed my time and my improvement. There was a bunch of cool people, too, that I regret losing contact with. Good luck on your streak, man.

No. 210819

Just wondering, when people say “drawing from life” do they mean physically being in the room with a person or can it just be poses or images of people?
I want to be able to practise drawing figures that are physically there but there aren’t really things like that let alone art classes, as I live in a small town

No. 210821

Drawing from real life is preferable, but if all you have are pictures, it's much better than nothing.

Easier said than done, but have you tried staking out at a coffeeshop or restaurant trying to draw people?

No. 210823


yes, drawing from life means physically being present in the same place as the object. the reason for that is that being in the same place allows you to check out different angles of the form and understanding its volume and why it looks the way it looks. you can literally draw anything. draw your hand. draw something that is present in your room, anything. even if it's not a person, it will help you greatly with understanding why some things look the way they do from certain angles and you will be able to apply it to other things.

No. 210824

If for some reason going out is too much of a hassle for you (I sure understand the feeling), try to do some exercises from paused videos. You'll get some more natural poses than the ones in most model pictures that way.

And as >>210823 beat me to saying, drawing from life is not exclusively drawing people. Set up some still life in your room and draw it, it will be a good exercise.

No. 210825

Thanks, might try at a cafe if I don’t get too self conscious over someone maybe seeing I’m drawing them

No. 210827

I have this issue myself, anon.
I always get so self-conscious and worried when someone sees me drawing them.

I found what helps me is to try and draw as quickly as you can while their image is still in your mind every time you look up. Try to keep looking up to a minimum unless the image is completely gone.
This act of scanning and memory is actually what is taught in art schools and it really is helpful. It also keeps your lines loose and gestural because you're trying to quickly get down what you see instead of focusing on the details - which does not entirely help with improvement.

No. 210829

I also highly recommend Croquis Cafe. Their channel is full of different models of different body types, genders, themes and poses! What makes them stand out from the other figure drawing channels I've seen is they don't pause the model like a static image . When the model takes a pose, you can still see them subtly moving which makes it feel like a figure drawing class - which I've taken (and have found that these videos were actually so much better than the class sadly enough; the models my teacher supplied us with were boring in figure).

Use this for practice whenever you don't have the ability to go out and draw from life!

No. 210833

Thank you anon!

No. 210835

You're welcome! I hope you continue to improve and grow!

No. 210867

i recommend the site quickposes for drawing different poses too

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What's your preferred art medium and why? I love coloring with copics but find stuff like watercolors too hard to control. It just ends up muddy

No. 210889

i like digital but my fave natural medium would be watercolours and pencils. still prefer paint tool sai though

No. 210892

I love copics and especially brush markers overall. I also enjoy colored pencils (polychromos are my fav atm)
Trying to get in to digital art with an old wacom tablet but I just feel weird and bad, so more practice I guess

No. 210912

It might sound strange, but I really enjoye ballpoint pens for some reason. I just think it's so cool to draw with a pen that has a similar feel to a pencil and is forgiving to a point, but it's also permanent so you do need to think abut your strokes. I did some of my best drawings with ballpoint pens.

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wtf what were your usernames??? i was a week 14, my username was Amoi. you can still search me up i think. I left because I did mostly studies, and idiots kept accusing me of tracing or painting over real photos when I wasn't. this is mine

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I see many like to draw people or characters with human features, does anyone else here draw animals?
I draw horses, dogs and birds. I really struggle with drawing realistic fur and horse manes, both on digital and on paper…

Pic is from my favorite potrait artist

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Suggestions on a graphic tablet for a beginner? I don't want to spend much, and will probably look for a used one too.

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A mid-sized Huion tablet only costs around $60. I've only noticed that it doesn't work that well with Illustrator.

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an intous draw is $80, wacom's cheapest. i've never used huion but it's obviously like a knock off version of wacom, so $20 more isn't a big deal for better quality.

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Isn't bamboo the cheapest? Mine was like half that. I guess it's shitty, but I'm still happy with it.

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I love drawing animals, and draw a lot of house pets. A lot of people like drawing human subjects/studies, but I show a lot more of my own personal style and have fun when I sketch some animals.
There are a lot of good tutorials on drawing animals on youtube, escpecially for photoshopping or sai. It depends on what medium you want to use, but for me drawing animal fur was easiest with micron pens and stippling technique like
yuko higuchi, from above (also one of my inspirations)

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Mean to say cross hatchig, not stippling sage for samefag

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Does anyone know of any good art books out there? I just recently bought David Chelsea's Perspective book and I quite like it!
Also bought the Steven Universe Artbook (no bully pls) and it's really nice, the Backgrounds are especially gorgeous!

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Sometimes they still sell older versions like this https://goo.gl/a1skjS

Some people seem to like Huion but I don't know how much I trust the reviews, and I didn't ever get to use one of them. Still, for 20 bucks it might be worth a try. https://goo.gl/sbCcrN

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No. 212608

I suck at drawing dudes and tough looking guys, who would you choose as models when you want to practice drawing men?

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You can look for body builders, heavy weight lifters or MMA fighters.

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