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No. 2079266
A sister thread to the regular internet paranoia thread
>>>/ot/2078297 since that one is more about enabling it than helping it. For those of us whose internet fear and need to not be perceived has affected us so much that it may cause a hindrance in our lives, and how to get better from it. Optional questions:
>When did you start noticing you may have internet paranoia and what do you think caused it?>Do you feel like you have a legit reason to be afraid, or are you just cautious?>Is there any specific scenario you are afraid of happening? >Has this impacted your real life in any way? Is there any unhealthy behavior you may have noticed?>Has someone confronted you about it?>How did you get better? How do you control the fear?>Do you still curate your online presence or take any additional measures?Disclaimer: This is not a thread to shit on cyber security. This is a thread for those of us whose hypervigilance got taken to extreme degrees and now the fear has taken over.
No. 2079272
>When did you start noticing you may have internet paranoia and what do you think caused it?
I think it all started on /cgl/, the way people criticized cosplays and jfashion really got to me. When lolcow was created I just switched over here, and things ramped up. Lolcow made me hypervigilant and I just can't switch to being a normie on the internet any longer. Even my online friendships need to be curated. Inside my head I see myself like I would a cow and I criticize myself for everything. "If people only knew about XYZ and all the mistakes I've done, and all the shit I've caused" is what I tell myself. I have days when I keep telling myself someone will inevitably make a thread on me someday, I can recognize that's probably just my fear talking but fears can be irrational like that.
>Do you feel like you have a legit reason to be afraid, or are you just cautious?
I just see myself as a shitty person. I criticize things that could very well apply to myself because guess what, I hate myself. I'm friends with anons here but also friends with people with social media presences, I keep fantasizing that one click would be all it could take.
>Is there any specific scenario you are afraid of happening?
Not being able to work in my dream job.
>Has this impacted your real life in any way? Is there any unhealthy behavior you may have noticed?
Yes. I have no friends, I can't be asked to take pictures, I have pissed off some people because I delete my accounts and my messages out of caution. They think I'm iffy even though it's not like I'm hiding anything, I'm simply being cautious. My partner hates me when I do this and so does their family.
>Has someone confronted you about it?
Yes. My partner. They think I need help.
>How did you get better? How do you control the fear?
I haven't gotten over it yet.
>Do you still curate your online presence or take any additional measures?
I do but I let myself loose sometimes thinking nothing wrong could ever happen but then I get paranoid again.
No. 2079289
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>When did you start noticing you may have internet paranoia and what do you think caused it?
Probably all the years I've spent on this website (almost 10) and how women get criticized for very minor things. I'm not the prettiest, nor the best human being, and people scare me.
>Do you feel like you have a legit reason to be afraid, or are you just cautious?
I want to do art as a job, and to be noticed I need to have social media. I keep thinking about disappearing every other day.
>Is there any specific scenario you are afraid of happening?
All the shit I've done blasting on my face, even if said shit is just liking "problematic" things like a music artist or an anime. I try to be a decent human being outside those things I swear. I still fuck up, but at least I try.
>Has this impacted your real life in any way? Is there any unhealthy behavior you may have noticed?
Yes. I sometimes wonder if I should even be alive at this point. The fear has taken over so many times I don't even think I can be normal anymore. I'm not living a life, I'm not even joking, the fear has gotten so paralyzing that I'm not doing what I love the most (art) because I'm just afraid. I can't take family pictures or even pictures with my boyfriend because I look ugly, and if someone sees those pictures they will be made fun of. In college, I would constantly have to cover my face at events because there was always some photographer there. I wish to have 0 things linked to me but that's unrealistic. I'm even wondering if having classmates on my only social media profile is worth it at all anymore, which will only isolate me more and feed the paranoia.
>Has someone confronted you about it?
Yes but I'd like to not talk about it, the situation hurt me a lot and I'm still processing it.
>How did you get better? How do you control the fear?
Not sure kek but looking forward for tips from other nonnies itt!
>Do you still curate your online presence or take any additional measures?
Yeah but I've already written so much I'm lazy to elaborate.
No. 2079536
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>>2079266Ah, the thread for me. I’ve been ‘cancelled’ on a couple of different occasions. Both times, I had to delete my account and flee. Now it’s become a routine, knee-jerk reaction to even the slightest conflict. I don’t understand nonas who can just ‘ignore it’. To make matters worse, I recently deleted yet another account: however, I actually made some really good friends on this one, was in a lovely community and had fun interactions. There was no
trigger; it was all my choice to leave. I’m tired of it, but equally, I can’t fight the urge to vanish. I’m discreetly contacting some of those mutuals through discord, but it’s not enough. I need to disappear entirely. The itch is still there. But I know I’ll end up making a new account eventually, and so the cycle continues…
No. 2079555
>>2079536I feel like this way of behaving has a lot to do with Avoidant Personality Disorder or other Cluster C traits, do you relate at all to that? From what I can tell if you are faced with enough negative social experiences and you have a certain personality type you will eventually succumb to the fear of future negative interactions. Eventually it becomes this negative feedback loop where you have no positive examples for past social interactions so you keep repeating the negative example. Also the more people you cut out from your life the easier it becomes.
It's so weird because I've had this instict to cut people out for my entire life, I feel like it started at the end of middle school. I had bad experiences in middle school and I saw the act of cutting people out as a huge liberation. Ever since then I've done it to so many people, both groupings and individual. It's weird because I'm not a sociopath who doesn't care about the people I bond with, in fact I care very much about them while we're friends but once something snaps inside of me I just cannot continue the relationship
No. 2079607
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>When did you start noticing you may have internet paranoia and what do you think caused it?
When I was backstabbed by one of my closest friends I knew in hs, she had a nasty habit of calling out people by carefully stalking their socials and I was a victim of this. She was incredibly skilled in finding out your posts, online info, and everything she could use to "expose" you online (funny that she rarely did this irl). Her socials are empty and tend to be wiped clean of anything milky even though her personality is quite problematic irl.
Like I had said before, I was a victim and because of this I changed from a semi-poster to going fully MIA on my socials…I only use them to keep in touch with my uni friends and keep up with the news atp.
>Do you feel like you have a legit reason to be afraid, or are you just cautious?
A little bit of both yes but I was very paranoid back then.
>Is there any specific scenario you are afraid of happening?
Maybe when they try to hurt me and my friends? I guess? or when ppl from my hs/family found out about my online presence.
>Has this impacted your real life in any way? Is there any unhealthy behavior you may have noticed?
Nope
>How did you get better? How do you control the fear?
Tbh I just accept it as part of my life now, I was lowkey then and I am still very lowkey now. It didn't change much, I did this for my own safety.
>Do you still curate your online presence or take any additional measures?
Kinda, I didn't post anything online anymore and became a 100% lurker. I don't even use my real name anymore in case someone from my past found out.
No. 2079743
>When did you start noticing you may have internet paranoia and what do you think caused it?
It's been with me since 2013 probably?
>Do you feel like you have a legit reason to be afraid, or are you just cautious?
I wanna keep my job, family, and friend safe. With all these TRAs and their queer lackeys doxxing and harassing people, you can never be less legitimate in your fears. It's human.
>Is there any specific scenario you are afraid of happening?
I'm by no means famous, but if I were, getting cancelled at such a wide scale that finding work would be impossible. I'd might as well disappear from the face of the earth if that were to happen.
>Has this impacted your real life in any way? Is there any unhealthy behavior you may have noticed?
No because the internet isn't the real world. Most have lives, so why should they care what somebody does in obscure web forum?
>Has someone confronted you about it?
not really. I had a few slip ups like stating a terf fact out in the open but have since went quiet after the fact. Big mistake, but I've learn to pick my battles.
>How did you get better? How do you control the fear?
That's the interesting part, the fear still exist but I brace through it like i've always had.
>Do you still curate your online presence or take any additional measures?
I've tried but frankly, finding a sane put together human in this hellscape is nearly astronomical in scope. Can't even settle for a verification or some means to verify for sure somebody's a woman. Following non-western user is the best option for now but hopefully less pozzed folks do exist, you just have to find them.
No. 2080370
>When did you start noticing you may have internet paranoia and what do you think caused it?
Being stalked and threatened online by an insane person for years. I want to describe it because it was really fucked and is a good warning but, i'm paranoid (and it puts me in a bad mood). I'm mostly over this now but i'm still hypervigilant as a result. Also, one of my old classmates found some anon account i had by skimming my friends' personal accounts. None of my friends followed me on said account but he somehow found it. I asked him how he did it but he wouldn't tell me kek. Funny thing is, i like e-stalking classmates and old friends too, so i can't act haughty here. Nothing came out of this but it was a good reminder that it's hard to separate your online personas
>Do you feel like you have a legit reason to be afraid, or are you just cautious?
Half-legit
>Is there any specific scenario you are afraid of happening?
Not really, i'm lucky that i live in a place where firing people over posts isn't a thing and privacy laws are really stringent.
>How did you get better? How do you control the fear?
I often tell myself i'm responsible for what i do and have to accept whatever comes at me. I've accepted that there's no such thing as true anonymity or even safety from e-stalking and genuinely dangerous things. It's still important to try your best at cybersecurity, but i've come to terms with reality. The internet feels pretty lonely and sometimes suffocating as a result but i'd rather be mentally prepared for anything. I don't get attached to online circles or followings, the only people who matter are people i talk to directly or have met IRL.
>Do you still curate your online presence or take any additional measures?
I only vent or talk casually on private accounts or IBs. I've had a few slip ups here and there and things i regret (posting personal pictures mainly) but all of that is over now. VPN use is a must. I try to not use identical or near-identical things (facts, anecdotes, certain words or phrases..) across platforms. I want to eventually go back to my lurking-only ways and have zero tangible presence online but it's hard
No. 2082309
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I don't think I should aspire to create the dream life I wanted anymore. I wanted to do comics, animations, paintings, sculptures. I'm not cut out for it. The paranoia won. I will get cancelled one way or another even if I stay low.
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>>2082434But what if I draw sad animecore art like this and someone thinks it's sinister and calls me a pedo
No. 2082509
>>2082473>I've had my cute art misinterpreted as sinisterwish I could see it, it sounds cool
>>2082508>By the way, paranoia has a narcissistic side to it (not judging you, it's a general fact)nta, explain
No. 2082531
>>2079289>I'm not living a life, I'm not even joking, the fear has gotten so paralyzing that I'm not doing what I love the most (art) because I'm just afraid. My goal is to stop being so worried about what people will see and start posting my art, just to see. The worst that would happen is people are mean, but I can block them and delete comments. The best that would happen is art could be my career or a solid side hustle. I wish we could link up and support each other posting.
>I can't take family pictures or even pictures with my boyfriend because I look ugly, and if someone sees those pictures they will be made fun of. In college, I would constantly have to cover my face at events because there was always some photographer there.Nona! This makes me so sad. Women face too much pressure to look good and I hope you can be freed soon. Maybe take some ugly pics of yourself to start, they have no power if you don’t let them. My family is very looks-oriented (my dad is a plastic surgeon) and I have finally gotten to the point where I’m rejecting a lot of it (late 20’s). I stopped wearing makeup about 3 years ago, recently stopped shaving my legs and armpits (3 months), and around the time I stopped wearing makeup I just stopped caring what photos look like. I hate the gathering around the phone, zooming in on your face and then saying “I hate it!” and trying hard in the next photo to look good. It’s too much strife for something so fleeting as appearances. Most people just look at themselves. Plus, I find joy here laughing at how ridiculous bad people look in photos. If somebody wants to zoom in on my naked face and laugh at me, I’m bringing them joy (and I know they’re a bitch like me kek).
No. 2082533
>>2082509Nta but I’d imagine it has to do with thinking you’re more important/significant/worth targeting than others. Like people care so much about you that they would start a hate campaign over you. Like
>>2082473 said, they people on /pt/ and /snow/ are not just people who make sort of cringe art, they have real moral vacancies.
No. 2082827
>>2082412Are you retarded? There isn't a law saying you need to put photos of your figure collection online and attach your name and/or face to it. Fucking hell, how retarded do you have to be to think that we'd make a thread on you for being a braindead weeb? Addyharajuku is a cringey virtue signalling hypocrite who's online 24/7. She's entertaining. You don't have to be. Going 'uwu b-but I am so sowwy for being cwinge, uguuuuu, ablooobloo, pls halp, kyaaa' is only getting you asspats here because you sound like you genuinely have a room temperature IQ. Absolutely nobody gives a fuck about the cringe shit you post online for your 4 followers to see. Unless you're as attention seeking elsewhere are you are in this thread, I can confidently tell you that you're fine.
Please try to use your brain sometimes. It's hard but you'll get there.
No. 2083075
>>2082419Real. Had to do the same to find peace. I went as far as to report and erase every mention. I even clear up my anonymous accounts every now and then.
I noticed there is just is much
triggering stuff on social media anyway. You want to read on one issue and the algorithm will flood you and try to push you in a certain niche. I just can't emotionally deal with it. I hate the idea of being associated with some things even if I agree with them. I hate the idea that people perceive me through these associations. I like it best when I spend as little time on social media as possible.
No. 2083585
>>2082674I think a lot of men do have those thoughts, even if they are only occasional, and they are still concerning even if they are occasional. I don't know for certain, but I think a 'healthy amount' of paranoia is okay. For example, any moid could be a predator, you might not know it until it's too late. It's better to be wary. For example, I might call myself friends with a moid, but I would never go hiking alone with a 'friend moid', like I would go hiking alone with a woman. Sure, probably nothing would happen, but if something
did happen, it feels like everyone would blame me for it (i.e., even normies will say shit like, 'why did she go with him?'.)
I think the meta is to be neutrally friendly with people until they give you a reason not to be, but to be cautious and keep an eye on others.
No. 2084850
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>When did you start noticing you may have internet paranoia and what do you think caused it?
I noticed mid last year after a mild breakdown, I think it was caused by years of being really into retarded internet drama via Kiwifarms and lolcow so I feel like I have a target painted on my back at all times.
>Do you feel like you have a legit reason to be afraid, or are you just cautious?
Yes and no. From childhood my mother has instilled a fear in me of my violent father finding out where we live and killing us, which has only gotten worse as he is currently out of prison and MIA. As a result I'm terrified of being doxxed because of stupid internet drama. On the other side of the coin I'm also scared of people cataloguing me and talking behind my back and using sock puppet accounts to manipulate me, which is mostly unfounded. There's also some OCD tier superstitions where I can't do or say things online because it would cause something bad to happen in my real life, ranging from mild misfortune or injury and death, which has been reinforced by said bad things happening hours or days after talking about certain things.
>Is there any specific scenario you are afraid of happening?
Like I've said, parent murdering me and underhanded manipulation, as well as ominous bad things.
>Has this impacted your real life in any way? Is there any unhealthy behavior you may have noticed?
In the past yes, like that time I was paranoid that somehow people were tracking me and putting nerve agents on things that they knew I'd touch so I'd wear disposable gloves and clean all my groceries in the sink and avoid handling anything in public and avoiding eating food from any source that wasn't me. It was a bizarre few months. Currently, not really it makes me feel mildly depressed and lonely because I live in a rural butt hole and have no one to talk to except online. I also feel like I lack personality because I play so many roles online and that I'm a particularly vile and hateful person as I don't believe the description of "nice" or "kind" so many people give me. A bad behavior that I've noticed is that I don't really think of other people online as people, more like an vn character that I can prod into acting or perceiving me in a certain. Another is just cutting people off when they get too friendly, I'm not really sure why I do it. I also can't handle mild arguments that aren't anonymous and immediately go into grovelling mode when I feel like I've upset someone.
>Has someone confronted you about it?
No, not really. People generally treat me with kid gloves if the topic of mental illness comes up regarding me because I can get stupid and reactive, at least I think that's the reason. I wish someone would.
>How did you get better? How do you control the fear?
Kek, I haven't. I just compartmentalise everything and that puts me at ease.
>Do you still curate your online presence or take any additional measures?
I tend to completely change personas and twist facts about my life, if I ever talk about it, depending on what social media I use. I'll also grey rock and gently cut off people I feel are getting too close to me, and sometimes I'll have a complete melt down and intentionally try to hurt someone before ditching my accounts which is incredibly embarrassing and makes me feel incredibly shitty afterwards but I can never bring myself to apologise.
No. 2134795
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>When did you start noticing you may have internet paranoia and what do you think caused it?
when a pedo shared a cp site disguised as a burn site like lolcow with me. i was 10 and he thought i was a fellow pedophile and told me to type in a password onto a website that he gave me the code for. there were pictures of girls from age 10 until age 18 being called sluts for posting pics with cleavage out, visible butt from the side, and puckered lips or duckface. the first expression was called anus face and the duckface was called the dick sucking lips. the teen girls posted selfies in bikinis and underwear to facebook, at least that is what the scrotes pretended. they were fake profiles, sometimes with nudes, uploaded as profile pictures with girls' names and comments with moids' names underneath. back then i thought it was weird how much they care about some stupid girls. i read the comments that called them stupid sluts and described what type of rape they would do to them. i thought i should never post such an expression or type of clothing online otherwise they would put me online and show all my classmates. then i started seeing more diverse humiliation being posted. ugly and nerdy people. fat people. drunk people saying stupid stuff. i didn't want to post photos because i thought all photos would be ugly and if the clothes were fitting i would be called a whore but if they were loose i would be called fat. multiple moids on msn tried getting naked photos of me.
>Do you feel like you have a legit reason to be afraid, or are you just cautious?
if you ever had a boyfriend, i think the reason is legit. he could have taken creepshots of you, compromising images of you while you did not notice and then send it to other moids, even publicize it. there are all sorts of people online with extremist beliefs and sicknesses. so a jihadi could stone you for seeing a naked photo you shared with your boyfriend in trust and with consent. there are ways to hack and leak peoples' photos from phones and computers so i think my fears are legitimate.
>Is there any specific scenario you are afraid of happening?
being found in real life by creepy perverts, swatters shooting me because of edgy comments or flatmates doing something retarded while on stream. gangstalkers from 4chan. prostitution poachers. also if i ever became well known on a platform, i know there would be haters trying to hack in and post something outrageous to try to cancel me, deplatform me, get me fired, etc. i had people drug me and search my shit.
>Has this impacted your real life in any way? Is there any unhealthy behavior you may have noticed?
i never post pictures from recognizable places, only plain walls or random plants. i don't post photos of buildings or travels, if i do, a considerable amount of time need to pass before the publication of them. i don't talk to stranger moids, especially if they are muslim looking. the unhealthy behaviour was my use of ubers because i was scared people were going to see me on the street or recognize my vehicle. then an uber driver recognized me even though i forgot them so i had to quit that.
>Has someone confronted you about it?
no, everybody is okay with it if i don't want to take pictures together and put them online.
>How did you get better? How do you control the fear?
i try to use media anonymously and not add all my friends. it's alright because we can still talk. i can not control the fear because what can i do? the internet is full of scary and entertaining stuff too. i hate scare tactics so i would not encourage them to be used to teach young people. the internet should be much more censored. moids perversions know no bounds. they are disgusting and that is scary, so i avoid websites with their degeneracy as much as possible but still visit 4chan sometimes.
>Do you still curate your online presence or take any additional measures?
i disable my accounts every now and then because it feels like people are lurking and i hate that.
No. 2134836
I honestly think that my negative impressions of the internet, in part, shaped my outlook on expectations of others and laid a maladaptive foundation for social behaviors. Like… my parents were already critical of me. But by the time I could access the internet, I was also old enough to stay home, watch my siblings, and stay on the internet until my parents got home, often times afterwards as well. And I was always, always, always, on 4chan, shock sites, and deviantART. I learned pretty quickly that your internet presence can be traced and people are hyper critical of your flaws. And if you're cringe, too cringe, you'll end up on EncyclopediaDramatica. I think being around critical websites, just like lolcow, has created internet paranoia, insofar as I need to be extremely careful on who I disclose information to on the internet. Now I just have actual people I know IRL on social media, and strangers are relegated to anonymous internet forums or discord. That seems to be enough. Also, not giving out your first and last name is smart, or not sharing controversial opinions in a public setting on an account that has real life information about yourself. like, don't publish your controversial opinions on your first and last name Instagram page, and if you do, don't make it public. You think that'd be obvious but some people really take risks without understanding how vindictive and bored people on the internet are.
No. 2222176
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My honest opinion is that anyone suffering like this needs to take time away from gossip spaces and just engage in what you like and heal. I used to be like this (still am sometimes) and even did actively have people attacking me, and then I got popular on one of my accounts (60k follows) and had all sorts of hate comments flung my way. It's just a part of having eyes on you online, I generally try to use that "I draw Charizard porn do you really think I care" tweet as my bible. I let fear of literal whos stop me from living out my dreams, which is a damn shame. What do they ACTUALLY know about me and what do they ACTUALLY know about you? What do they know about the life you've lived and how it's molded you into the person you are today?
People will only offer you face value understanding, they do not care about digging deeper and honestly, they just like feeling better than other people. Sometimes you just get scapegoated for that. Please don't abandon your dreams because you're scared of people on here talking about you. Moids avoid this type of shit because they don't care, women care a lot more about how they are perceived socially, which I'm guessing roots back to our base tribal lifestyles where women gathered and raised children in groups. It's been really hard but I've been trying to harness the moid state of mind of just going "haha lol why do you care" when people try to pick on me, or just straight up ignoring them. You're all going to be okay.