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No. 197407

Hey guys!

So, there's a lot of threads dedicated to Art and Artists, but none for us farmers to learn more.

I know there are a lot of farmers who are great artists - Onion's and Moo's thread are full of them -, so I figured we could help each other, beginners and pros alike!

Which materials are good/you use, technical talk, color palette tips, inspo stuff, artist recommendations, tutorials etc etc Hey guys!

So, there's a lot of threads dedicated to Art and Artists, but none for us farmers to learn more.

I know there are a lot of farmers who are great artists - Onion's and Moo's thread are full of them -, so I figured we could help each other, beginners and pros alike!

Which materials are good/you use, technical talk, color palette tips, inspo stuff, artist recommendations, tutorials etc etc ❤

No. 197410

Also maybe this could be a thread to dump all them so dreaded redraws?

I remember an anon saying she wanted to redraw Asherbee's godawful No Face "God Design" and was shut down right away… I would love to actually see it lol

No. 197417

I've been wanting a thread like this, honestly. I'm starting to gather more of a following from my drawing (still very small, but its better than the years previous to this by far) and as I get more interest the range of characters I'm commissioned to draw grows. Luckily its usually cute girls that people want me to draw, but some people want male characters and I just… don't know where to start as someone who only draws females.

I would love to know anyone's personal tips for getting into drawing males after only primarily drawing girls for years upon years.

No. 197418

I have a newbie question even though I have been drawing a long time. (Not well though.)

How do you not let these two things bother you:

1. Your hand constantly getting all smudgy (and worse, smudging the drawing) when you draw in pencil? I use a lead that is supposed to not smudge but it still gets fucking everywhere.

2. How do you got get pissed off when you cannot erase a line (or worse, make an indentation) on a critical part of a drawing and it is just… there and cannot be unseen? Like the face?

Pencil is what I usually use because not being able to erase is a problem for me and when I use colors it looks shitty. But no matter how many years pass, these two things are beyond infuriating to me?

No. 197419

>>197418
There's a stick thing you can get that basically you lever your hand on so it doesn't touch the page or medium.

Use soft pencils and soft sweeping strokes to get your lines in and then harden the lines you want after erasing the sketchy bits. It also helps to do the base sketch in a pale blue and then trace your own work on a light box for perfect final lines.

No. 197424

>>197418

I've seen people put a piece of clean scrap paper under their drawing hand, that seems to help with the smudging.
Also, I'm pretty heavy-handed, and your problems with erasing lines make it sound like you are too. Drawing lighter lines can help. I've learned to be a lot lighter-handed by doing those stupid mechanical drawing exercises. Y'know, draw two dots and then connect them with a single motion; draw a blob and fill it with parallel lines, etc.

No. 197425

I really want to know how to get more recognition for my art online? Which sites are better for posting my art and how can i reach a wider audience?

>>197417
I had this problem, just practice a lot and also study the key differences in the faces and anatomy of males and females ( like the width and distance of everything ) I found that "Dawing the head and hands" by Andrew Loomis really helped me draw better males and then I just practiced the anatomy from references. It's very hard and my men still look some what feminine but they've gotten better. Hope this helps

No. 197436

>>197419
>>197424
Aww thanks, you guys are sweet for replying. (And for not yelling at me for all those typos I made, good lord.)

I will definitely try some softer drawing techniques, I didn't even realize those exist so that sounds great. Thank you!

As for the smudging, I have tried the scrap paper and still wound up smudging it, not sure if it is my lead that is the problem still? I'll look for the stick thing though!

No. 197441

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Gonna post some art feels.
>tfw been in a slump for the past year after making great art gains from nonstop drawing
>every new drawing looks awful
>old drawings look really good in comparison
>too scared to draw new stuff even though it's counter-productive
Also, on top of that, I just took a class with a super great art professor who thinks I'm basically ready to find internships or do small-scale work and is super supportive. Maybe I was last year, but now I've regressed and lost too much confidence to do anything.

As for good feels, my art got me a talent grant so even though tuition isn't even that expensive, it's still a really sweet deal.

>>197436
Do you rest your palm on the paper? I think you need to try a different way of holding your pencil like pic related. If it's still uncomfortable to hold the pencil in the other variations, holding your pencil further from the tip in the typical position will make it harder to rest on your palm.

Also, if you have a drawing board, try propping it up so you draw at an angle and then your hand will find it a lot harder to fall flat against your drawing surface (my pinky tip still rests on the page but it's like less than 3 mm of actual contact).

Sorry if this isn't helpful, but it's worth a try!

No. 197449

>>197436
Same anon from before, I'm still trying to remember what the stick is called.
It's just a dowel with a little felt or rubber ball on one end.
You could probably make it if you can't find one.

No. 197450

>>197449
>>197436
It's a mahl stick! Ahhh it was driving me nuts!

No. 197454

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>>197407
Doooes anyone know of any online resources that specialize in any of the following?
>Shading
>Perspective/foreshortening
>Figure drawing/daily drawing exercises
Also, have a tutorial.
And this link: http://www.posemaniacs.com/tools/handviewer/

No. 197455

thank you for starting this thread OP, and here is my favorite place for art tutorials, in case some anons may not know it: http://artistshospital.deviantart.com/

No. 197474

Do you guys know how to blend in colored pencils? Specifically Faber Castell polychromos 12 pencils set.
I've tried watching many videos on this but almost all of them recommend using paint thinner. I'm terrified of paint thinners because we have so many children in the house and they always go inside my room to play around.
I've tried the colorless blender pencils and they are absolutely garbage.
Any other tips on blending with colored pencils would be much appreciated.

No. 197476

>>197454
Check out Croquiscafe, they future many different models and make you practice with different poses/time limits. unfortunately, they upload every week but not daily.
https://www.youtube.com/user/onairvideo

No. 197479

>>197474
I use spectrum noir pencil blending solution. It's still toxic, but it comes in a small child safe bottle. If you're that paranoid you can just make tons of light layers of pencil, gradually increasing pressure, then burnish it with white pencil at the end. That method takes a long time though.

No. 197480

>>197479
Thanks, I might switch to water soluble colored pencils in the end.
Do you have any recommendations for good colored pencils in general?

No. 197485

>>197454
>>197476

Yes! I love croquiscafe! But I also use quickposes.com a looot for my gesture practice. Their pose archive is pretty complete (I usually use naked only)
There's also this one, I use it mostly for hands and feet. https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/hands-feet-practice/

Hope it helps!

No. 197489

>>197455

OP here, and I am glad! Thank you, anon! :D
However, I noticed I dun fucked up with the thread description, oh well.

Anyway, some inspo for you guys. I really love Little Thunder works, and line art especially.

(wish I could embed instagram videos)

https://www.instagram.com/p/BWNmGFElsrC/?taken-by=littlethunder

No. 197500

>>197489
Little thunder is my inspiration too!! So glad she's getting popular I love her work!!

No. 197506

>>197500
i absolutely love her art. and her videos where where she's inking or colouring her art are so soothing.

No. 197512

>>197480
Polychromos are good, faber-castell's watercolor pencils are alright too. I love Holbein for the unusual shades but they cost more.

No. 197520

>>197474
I actually preferred to grind down the pencil leads to a powder and apply/blend the pigments with a blending stump. It's a pain but the colours apply much more softly and blend smoothly.

No. 197523

Does anyone have tips or tutorials on coloring?

I don't think I am that bad at coloring, i usually know which colors go together and stuff, but Ijust finished a piece and the colors didn't… Pop? Like, it was decent, but kinda flat, I don't know.

Thanks in advance!

No. 197524

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>>197418
I use an art glove. $5. It works on my tablet/touchscreen for digital paintings and also irl for keeping graphite clean.
>>197474
You don't blend colored pencil by physically forcing them to go into one another, theyre blended by using pressure and placing values to render tones and depth. You need art school, or an atelier

No. 197525

>>197523
Study color theory. This site http://paletton.com/ helps a lot, and read up on John K's blogspot. He's a racist arrogant dick, but he knows his shit more than anyone in cartooning today.

No. 197526

>>197474
How are you blending them? Do you layer light covers, (sweeping the pencil over lightly so there's no indentations or heavy buildup) switching directions until youve built up the right hue/shade?

Do you have any examples of your shading we could "diagnose"?

No. 197527

>>197525

I actually study color theory a lot, and usually it's easier for me when doing it digitally then traditionally. I guess I do have to study it more though!

Thank you for the site, I love it!

No. 197540

What program do y'all use for art on the computer? I am relatively new but taught myself on jusy adobe Photoshop. I recently got a new Wacom tablet and it came with a free drawing program (o can't remember the name of atm) and which I don't like at all!! Just wondering what others use, I always felt like a noob just using Photoshop haha

No. 197560

>>197540
>noob just using Photoshop haha
Photoshop is like, the industry standard, lol. I use Clip Studio Paint because I prefer the brush engine and my computer can't handle PS anymore. Sometimes I pop into PS for the better variety of brushes and the editing tools.

No. 197610

I know she's a very shitty person, but she's great with colors and holy shit this has helped me a lot.

http://glitchedpuppet.deviantart.com/art/How-I-See-Color-A-Tutorial-184642625

No. 197612

>>197540
I use photoshop because it works really well with my Huion tablet's shortcut buttons, but I also have medibang for drawing. I haven't used the latter much but some manga artists I like use it for their series, which made me want to try it.

I also pirated illustrator and indesign but I don't use them as much as ps.

No. 197675

>>197540
I started out with gimp but I've been using photoshop for many years now and I love it. Tried SAI once and boy I sucked at it.

>>197610
Agreed, she really knows how to use colours. What's the deal with her though, I know she's been involved in some drama but I never really understood what happened

No. 197703

>>197675

Well, aside from drawing awful furry porn (not talking about Floraverse, but older stuff with scat and whatnot), she was okay with like minors seeing her fucked shit, I think she defended bestiality, and also her boyfriend (or husband, I dunno which, she has a weird poly thing going on) also defended the possession of CP. Soooo, yeah..

Posting something else just to stay on topic

No. 197738

Do any of you guys have recommendations for finding male references? Something similar to the 'gravure' tag on Tumblr, where it's just endless images with foreshortening, perspective, and figures on distinct planes. Japanese men's magazines are close, but it's mostly standing and it's harder to find hires images.

No. 197744

>>197738

Have you tried quickposes? They let you choose the gender of the models, and they have a big variety of poses.

https://www.quickposes.com/en/gestures/random

No. 197762

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>>197540

Krita. It's free and great for painting.

No. 197780

>>197560
>>197612
>>197675
Thanks guys! That makes me feel more confident in my past work haha, I thought maybe it was a no-no or something and was kind of embarrassed to ask other artists IRL, but knowing it's actually very common I feel pretty good about using it again haha. Sorry I'm so new to the whole ~digital art~ scene

>>197762
I'll have to look into that thank you!! :)

No. 197787

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How much do live drawing sessions help? They only have it once a month in my city, and it's kind of expensive.

No. 197790

>>197787
I used to go to a weekly figure drawing class and really liked it, especially because there were people there who would give advice or experiment with different types of art supplies. You should try to check if there are any others in your area that could be cheaper, some schools and galleries that have classes might do them. The one I went to had a discount for anyone that signed up for multiple classes instead of paying at the door every week.

No. 197795

>>197762

This looks amazing, what's the artist's name?
Also, I love Krita, but at the same time, it's so heavy and laggy.

>>197540 PS truly is the industry standard, but I've using Mediabang because it's super light and responsive. It's not as complete as PS or even Krita, but it does the job, especially since I've been using a samsung tablet to paint more than anything lately, their app is the best out there, and it's free.

>>197787
It's good, it's nice to look at the model from different angles and lighting. But if it's too expensive, maybe an year subscription to this site would be better? It kinda does the job.

http://www.artmodels360.com/

No. 197799

Any recommendations for comfy artist youtubers who are relaxing and have good dialogue? Either about techniques or interesting things they talk about?

No. 197802

>>197795
David Revoy

No. 197803

I'll just drop this here

https://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/

Lots and lots of references

No. 197823

>>197799

I don't know if they're necessarily comfy, but I like Sycra, Sinix and sometimes I watch Sara Tepes

No. 197877

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>>197803

Thank you anon, I love you! <3


Does anyone have good tutorials/tips on perspective? I fucking suck at it so much.

Have a woodcut print from ma boi Kawase Hasui.

No. 197885

>>197799
Ahmed Aldoori and Sinix are my faves, really uplifting and positive

No. 197903

>>197799
Minnie Small. She has a really nice voice.

No. 198240

I need help, I am planning on doing a drawing event in twitter, I would have a hashtag that people would use when posting a selfie and I choose a winner randomly and draw avatar or something for them. Is this a good idea and if there is something else I should do, what would it be?

No. 198279

>>198240
It's better to be more casual than having a contest and winner. Just get people to use the hashtag and say you might get around to drawing them / a few of them. I didn't directly make any money when I did this but the interest was good, and I sold unrelated prints to them later on, so it's a good way to build your follower loyalty.

No. 198312

>start drawing traditionally again
>go back to my regular graphics tablet
>feel like I'm back at toddler level again
Holy shit. I genuinely have never felt this inept drawing digitally before, not even during my first adjustment period.

Do any of you guys have monitor tablets? Any recommendations?

No. 198408

>>198312
If you're gonna buy a monitor tablet, buy a big one. The smaller ones are absolutely not worth it, they will just hinder your progress.
Unfortunately I bought a 13hd Cintiq because I thought it would feel as natural as drawing on paper, nope. In the end I gave it to my sibling and went back to my intuos 4 because of neck and back pain.

No. 198547

>>198312
No, just get any tablet PC. Make sure there's an EMR digitizer

No. 198687

>>198312

Everybody's talking about Huions now. I'd give it a try, since they are on the cheaper side. I really prefer to work on my Samsung tablet than on my regular tablet, I don't know. I think't it's really about preference. See if you have any friends with monitor tablets and ask them to try it out.

Posting some inspo now. I really really love this guy's work. Wish his videos weren't as sped up tho, I wish I could see him paiting better.

No. 198694

>>198687
I bought a Huion H610 and it works great with photoshop.

No. 198695

I'm in some need of money and have been thinking of doing furry art since some of my friends get good $$ from doing it.
What are some good websites to sell/commission such request on?

No. 198707

>>198695

Yes, furry art really is where the money is lol Just use a different handle or a fake name when doing it.
I guess deviantart and furafinnity are the best places

No. 198733

>>198707
Right? Thanks for the tip about a fake name, I don't really want my main art hub to be furry porn but I needs the muns.
I was thinking those two also, just wanted to double check and make sure there wasn't any other places I was missing.

No. 199210

>>198312

Istebrak just made a review on Huion, and I think she's the most sincere on her review out of everyone I've seen.

I never imagined Istebrak was a chubster lol



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