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No. 185247

I was sent this:
>Second, high status and very attractive women need less help and protection from other women and are less motivated to invest in other women (who represent potential competition). Thus, a woman who tries to distinguish or promote herself threatens other women and will encounter hostility. According to Benenson, a common way women deal with the threat represented by a remarkably powerful or beautiful woman is by insisting on standards of equality, uniformity, and sharing for all the women in the group and making these attributes the normative requirements of proper femininity.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/insight-therapy/201401/feminine-foes-new-science-explores-female-competition

No. 185271

I mean, why is the focus on women? The exact same thing happens with men. See: some political movements.
Hell, one might argue it's basically how communism arose. This is a universal thing. Crabs in a bucket mentality masquerading as equity.
>t women are often the chief enforcers of strict and sometimes cruel norms of female appearance and sexual behavior. For example, the ritual of female genital mutilation, still practiced in some Muslim countries in Africa, is primarily designed to make the girl into good ‘bride material’ for men. [..] Still, this ceremony is managed, performed and enforced by women (mostly mothers and grandmothers).
People who follow rules aren't the "chief enforcers". Why are they making it seem as if the men weren't the ones with the ultimate authority in such cases, like they're backseat observers?
>Psychology Today
Ah, that's why. It's personally biased tripe. Tell whoever sent you that article to fuck off with their pop psychology/sociology garbage. You can literally find an article reading the exact opposite of this, deriding men, and go "Hmm, really makes you think".
Articles like these are nothing but the writers' opinions under the guise of scientific results. Subjectivity masquerading as objectivity.

No. 185412

>>185247
It's a psychology today article filled with huge leaps in logic and pretty poorly sourced overall.

You counter it by pointing out that it's just an opinion piece with a couple of studies linked that don't support the claims that are being made, and point out that you can find an article like this for almost any issue.


I also think it's spending a lot of its time framing obvious shit as more interesting issues. Yes, people compete with their peers, that's completely normal, not a female or male thing. It loses its credibility when it tries to discredit entire political movements or attitudes with this, that's incredibly unscientific, and wouldn't hold up in any reputable publication.

No. 185428

>>185247

I'd say it's true. It applies for not so bright women though.

In a patriarch society, female value is set according to her looks, which in the male brain, indicates fertility. Male primary purpose is to breed, therefore will look for the best traits in order to accomplish it. In a male dominant social structure, female's chore is to only be a housewife and give birth. In the meantime the man is the provider and protector. In a society like that, males should be strong, dominant and protective. When women should be caring, nurturing and cute.

If a woman wanted to survive, she ought to fulfill this chores. Because she couldn't maintain herself otherwise nor guarantee the wellbeing of the offspring. Humans are hierarchizied and there are a finite number of people, with a finite number of possibilities to breed. Males belonging to a certain hierarchy, will belong all their life there (rarely will move upwards, only in case he has enough traits to fit). In this type of society, the woman has it more easy to climb the social ladder, the only thing needed is to get a man from an upper class. It means she has to compete with the rest of females for male attention, if she wants to get the most suitable male in the group.

I always found funny how this adaptation made the females of our species to play the roll that usually play the males of others (like peacocks and other bird species), in which she has to fulfill certain beauty standards and decorate herself (make up, fashion, jewelry) to compete. Those who are unable to, won't breed or will have to breed with the less powered males, which won't guarantee them stability.

Of course, this worked for centuries…. until the means of production changed during the industrial revolution of the 1800's. After this, societal needs also changed and then feminism appeared many years later. IMO it was just natural feminism happened.

Feminism as a cultural movement gave women the opportunity to have a place on the workplace and obtaining money for sustaining herself. Of course that needs working your ass off or having a certain degree of intelligence for that matter (if you don't have the physical capability to work your ass off). By having money of their own, they became a part of the production chain, and a useful member to society. This wasn't easy to achieve, because of societal rules and the way of thinking of older times deep rooted. And still are. How many girls out there prefer not having going to work, and instead choose being cute enough to get a man that will take care of her? In their way they belittle other women and of course won't support what they detect as the competence.

Most of the members of our species are plain stupid and just follow the norms without making questions. There are also many that look for reasons as to why things work a certain way and find justifications for an ideology.

My English is shitty, I just hope my point was understood. Have a lovely day!



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