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No. 185163
>>185162Yea ok because we all know the world was such an amazing utopia and so much safer back when women weren't people.
Shoo
No. 185168
>>185167Your argument is "you're ugly". Typical woman.
You would probably say I'm hot if you saw me in real life and didn't know anything else about me. But even if I was ugly, what is your point? That ugly people are wrong because they're ugly?
No. 185178
>>185176I explained why already in this post:
>>185162It basically all has to do with women and marriage being ruined. The current state of women/sex/marriage is the most significant problem, but it's a severe problem that can have devastating effects on society in areas that you don't consider, increased crime and degeneracy/stupidity that can actually lead to societal collapse.
You women don't seem to understand the importance of sex, you're making it so there is no sane option for men to reproduce.
> well women and minorities used to be treated FAR worse than you are todayWomen were treated basically just as well in ancient Rome (which I would have rather been born in, as middle class). The minorities can fuck off back to their own countries, in the US all former African slaves were given a free ride back to Africa if they wanted it, they were given their own country called Liberia. (some of them did go back and they enslaved the native Africans, and the place is currently a shithole)
That's irrelevant though. Men aren't treated particularly bad, it a set of societal problems that just so happens to mainly effect men negatively, and lets women live on super-easy mode.
That's not the problem though, it's that women are destroying society because they've been allowed to freely make all the bad decisions they want with no supervision or authority from men, and their bad sexual decisions are powerful enough to destroy a society.
No. 185180
>>185178Actually, no you didn't explain shit. Crime rates are down despite all your whining about single moms raising criminals, so you're just talking about your feelings not facts.
I'm not trying to dismiss them, I get where you're coming from. You want a loving wife and a happy family, that's not a bad thing.
But maybe you can't get that because you're a bit of a garbage person who doesn't care about the rights of others as long as you get what you want.
No. 185185
>>185180>But maybe you can't get that because you're a bit of a garbage person who doesn't care about the rights of others as long as you get what you want.That's not why, it's because I'm a NEET with no money, and it's not for any reason other than that. If I had money I could easily get a wife, but I don't bother trying because the marriage laws and women are so ruined.
It's basically impossible to find a virgin past the age of 16, my local age of consent, and all these women have large past sexual histories, it's fucking disgusting and I don't want to marry some slut, no man wants to marry a slut that has slept around, they'll fuck them too but not marry them. They're incredibly likely to cheat and divorce based on their past behavior, they are mentally ruined by it.
Even if I did find a virgin to marry, she could still cheat on me and face no punishment by law for it, and she could divorce me and get custody of my children and half my money.
This is why white birthrates are declining, you're not giving men any sane option to reproduce. All the women are fucking insane used up brainwashed liberal feminist whores, and the marriage laws are suicidal for men.
Why the fuck would I even bother working and not being a NEET if I don't get rewarded with a proper wife? I have no reason to work otherwise.
No. 185186
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>>185178"Women were treated basically just as well in ancient Rome (which I would have rather been born in, as middle class)"
>thinking a neet like you would succeed in ancient rome without internet, wifi and vidya>thinking women were treated "well" in rome No. 185189
>>185185NEETs are the fucking worst. Not only do you whine about how life is SO unfair but you literally do nothing. You don't even try to do anything.
You sit on your ass all day while your parents spend their life savings on supporting the waste of oxygen you are. All because you didn't get the pure virgin waifu you believe you're entitled to.
No. 185191
>>185185>Why the fuck would I even bother working and not being a NEET if I don't get rewarded with a proper wife? I have no reason to work otherwise.Wat?
Are you seriously saying the only reason to be an independent adult or have any goals in life at all is to bang the right kind of pussy?
.. ok
No. 185192
>>185186I'd probably be a legionary.
>>185187>>185189> if you don't get that you'll just sit on your ass for the rest of your life and leech from your parents?I explained my financial situation in another thread once.
TLDR: I have $30K, and because of investments/inheritance I never have to work, my mother
wants me living with her and doesn't ask me to pay for anything, and I can live reasonably comfortably for life without ever working except it's not nearly enough money to afford a wife/children, to women this is basically the same as being a NEET without any money at all, because I can't actually provide them any money.
Even if I did have enough money/income to be seen as a suitable husband to women, I already explained all the other problems with women/marriage. It is the one thing that bothers me to the point that I could kill.
>>185191For many men, and to some extent all men, yes.
Is this really that crazy to you? Can you not understand how men think at all? Do you not see the efforts men go through just so they can attract females? Have you ever seen a male peacock spread it's feathers? They have giant obnoxious feathers they spread to attract females. Human males do that too, you're just too stupid to know what they're doing.
No. 185195
>>185192Look if that's the way you want to live your life, fine if you're happy that way. I'm pretty sure your parents are disappointed in you even if they're too nice to tell you, and you are leeching off them like it or not.
No, not everything comes down to vagina. Many great inventors, musicians, etc, achieved great things without ever getting married. Women are part of those as well, believe it or not.
You just have issues you refuse to address and blame it on women. There is something wrong with you if you choose to be a permanent child.
I agree, divorce rates are insane but maybe it's because women have a choice now, and maybe a lot of men aren't so great to be with long term. Still there's plenty of successful marriages. I guess you'll never know which way your life might have gone if you don't bother. You don't bother to do anything.
I don't understand that mentality, I'm not a man but I work because I enjoy achieving my goals in life and being independent.
No. 185200
>>185194I actually enjoy living, except no sex/wife/children, and only a few other problems really.
I'm dissatisfied enough with society though that I would join a militant group that would kill to secure a future and land without feminism, "diversity", or cultural marxism. Maybe I will get to one day, sigh…
>>185195>I don't understand that mentality, I'm not a man but I work because I enjoy achieving my goals in life and being independent.You work either because you have to, or because you're fucking stupid and you think being a cog in a capitalist system is "achieving my goals and being independent", and you're so simple that you find purpose in it.
>No, not everything comes down to vagina.It does, you just haven't looked far enough.
> Many great inventors, musicians, etc, achieved great things without ever getting married. Women are part of those as well, believe it or not.Not all men want marriage, but they do want sex. Women don't ever have to work if they don't want to, there is tons of guys that will take care of them and they just need to select which one they want, so I admit it is very odd how so many women strive to succeed in a capitalist system like this, and I understand why you can't understand that men strive to succeed for very different reasons than you do.
Women are very good at following authority figures and doing what they're told, and right now the current authoritative doctrine they've been told since youth is to be a "strong independent woman", and to follow through with higher education/career. They don't even know why they want to do it, they just do it because they're very good at following authority.
Men do it because it means access to money and sex, a big emphasis on sex. Women can get sex regardless of their financial status, sex is never a factor in them wanting to succeed, but it is a HUGE factor in men wanting to succeed in a capitalist system.
No. 185204
>>185201That would be pretty dumb to dox myself. I doubt you'd come kill me anyway.
What makes you angry enough to kill me anyway? Please tell me.
No. 185206
>>185200>You work either because you have to, or because you're fucking stupid and you think being a cog in a capitalist system is "achieving my goals and being independent", and you're so simple that you find purpose in it.Well lucky you that you don't have to, I guess my parents would support me and they did for a while but they aren't rich. What would you do if your parents couldn't support you? Honest question, pls respond.
Yes, some men want sex with vaginas. Some are gay. Some like both. Some aren't interested in either of those. A rather disproportionate amount of famous men are either gay or just not interested in sex, curiously enough. So no I don't believe vagina is the main goal to having a successful life, that's just you.
As for the rest of your post, we're getting into pretty heavy anti-capitalist politics that I'm not interested in discussing right now.
No. 185210
>>185206>parentsI was raised by a single mother, I don't get any money from my dad, I've barely talked to him in years.
My mom is about the nicest person you could ever meet, but she's awfully dumb and isn't good at parenting, I basically had to raise myself. It's not her fault, as a woman she just wasn't capable of it.
>if your parents couldn't support you?Like I said, I never have to work because of inheritance/investments.
>So no I don't believe vagina is the main goal to having a successful lifeBecause of a few gay exceptions? Just re-read my comment, I don't feel like repeating myself.
No. 185212
>>185210I have no trouble believing she wasn't a great parent considering your current life situation.
But you didn't answer my question, what would you do if she could not support you? Would you get a job or just kill yourself?
It's not a few "gay exceptions"… human beings need a goal, a reason to wake up in the morning. For some video games are enough, but for most people we need a sense of accomplishment, to support themselves and just be an adult in general. Arguing about capitalism is a whole other thing though. Do you have any hobbies at least?
No. 185214
This is great, because your argument is legit "wimmen need 2 b supervised wen they do shit men do like vote/work/have a life outside the kitchen"
And men don't need supervision? Like, are you legit kidding me?
Alright, so it's generally agreed that women in the west are "free" or whatever, and have the same privileges as men for the most part (maybe more, maybe less, but that's another argument) so statistically speaking, if we needed supervision, it would show as to how many women commit crimes vs. how many men commit crimes, right? If we can't handle our shit, we're probably going to fuck up more than men, right?
uh-huh. A quick google search would give you your answer. Most if not all of the modern day school shooters, warmongers, terrorists, general terrors of human society are men. But I digress.
>inb4 "ooooh women sleep with police officers to stay out of jail"/"women are sneaky shits"
If this was really the case, don't you think more people would have spoken out about this, or this would have been common knowledge, regardless of if they've been caught or not? There's 7 billion of us. Someone would have spoken up about this.
>I love this idiot he's so delusional.
No. 185215
>>185212>I have no trouble believing she wasn't a great parent considering your current life situation.I love my mom, she's a great parent in the sense that she bought me everything I need, but she's completely incompetent as a parent otherwise, but it's really not her fault, she just wasn't capable of it.
>But you didn't answer my question, what would you do if she could not support you? Would you get a job or just kill yourself?I don't think you understand my financial situation, but hypothetically I would just live homeless, there's ways to live somewhat decently homeless.
>be an adult in general.Women are eternally children, having a job doesn't make you an adult.
>Do you have any hobbies at least?Weight lifting, Linux and free open-source software (including relatively simple programming), competitive video games including CSGO, anime and other otaku-related hobbies, I like imported Japanese green tea, cannabis, and wine/spirits, if you can call that a hobby.
>>185214> it would show as to how many women commit crimes vs. how many men commit crimes, The way women act does something much worse to society, except it's not considered a crime by the law.
I'm well aware men commit more crimes, good reason for that.
Like I said before, women are very good at listening to authority and doing what they're told, they don't have the testosterone that enables men to commit violent crimes, they literally don't have the balls.
No. 185217
>>185216>even if the perfect virgin waifu spread her legs for you you'd probably just call her a gold digging whore anyway.Is that how you think of yourself? Heh.
I'm tired and all the hate has flowed out of me, I have no more willingness to argue. Really I'm just mad because I won't ever get a good wife.
No. 185218
>>185214That guy thinks it's women fault that men commit crimes, don't bother.
Also funnily enough women being raped by police officers is very common. There's a huge problem with the police force and murder, but that leaves a body behind so it's more obvious yet it happens every day.
So to whom is a rape victim supposed to report that crime to when she is a victim of that same agency? Hm.
No. 185221
>>185220You're very different. I would work myself to death if I was promised a wife who wouldn't cheat or take my kids/money in a divorce, I would quit the NEET life right away.
I'm very tired and I don't feel like arguing anymore.
No. 185224
>>185221how about working for yourself, and what you can achieve. Women like men who are accomplished, it's true. But are you really comfortable spending your days rotting away? Is this what you want your legacy to be?
A family, a wife, and children aren't the end-all be all, although it may feel like they are. Invest in yourself for a change, and start reaping the rewards.
No. 185225
>>185224Infuriatingly stupid and condescending "advice".
>>185222>If you don't want to argue then go back to /r9k/ otherwise why are you posting this bs here?Because I already argued for the entire thread, read it if you want, I don't want to repeat myself.
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>>185221>i wouldnt be a useless piece of shit if women liked mewhat the fuck am i reading?
No. 185236
Too much animu and social retardation made these men who they are today. They have to blame someone for their own failures, so they blame women for it.
>>The fall of society? Women!! Dirty hoes who won't sleep with us unless we're one of the 20% top alpha!1
Dear God, that's ridiculous. I consider myself a pretty conservative person, many would describe me as a prude sexually and I like the idea of being a mom and housewife, but won't you stop being so whiny? You know, be an actual MAN who works hard, live his life and makes money without being a crying sad grown baby? Instead of being bitter and complaining find a woman who shares similar ideals, since yes, they do exist. You may have to lower your beauty standards though, as most of the time women who are beautiful on the inside aren't "10/10", but you want the best of the best, right you balding ahole? That's why no one takes you people seriously.
No. 185238
>>185204Because I don't like you
>>185205I'm not the same person but you too sound like a male faggot.
No. 185250
>>185192lmao, of course providing for you wife and kids is important. if you want a traditional marriage, that is.
how will your wife take care of the house and the kids if u don't provide for them? smh, this is such low tier bait. at least have coherence.
No. 185252
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>>185215>there's ways to live somewhat decently homelessI FUCKING LOVE THIS BAIT