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No. 1732594

Thread to be critical of toxic positivity, can be

>Bad takes on forgiveness or morality
>Shitty religious and spiritual values
>Mental illness glorification
>Anti-criticism spaces
>etc.

No. 1732605

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>>1732594
Apologies if this thread isn’t great, it’s the first time I’ve made one. Basically I made this for posts like picrel. Essentially people who work in absolutes and think forgiveness is the only thing that works and being against anything is self destructive

No. 1732610

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I see "forgiveness" being used to mean "just forget about all the bad things this dangerous person did just because they don't do those things anymore", that I can't help but cringe when I see it being preached to people. What does forgiveness truly mean, and does it really deserved to be shilled as much as it is?

No. 1732611

>>1732605
This take is stupid because it’s so broad and vague. There’s a huge difference between forgiving someone for a misunderstanding or petty disagreement vs. forgiving a rapist or abuser. “Forgiveness is the answer” just does not fit each and every scenario. If someone decides to forgive someone it should be a decision they get to themselves, not something they feel they have to do.

No. 1732612

>>1732610
I think you should only forgive nonserious stuff. You can forgive someone who spoke behind your back once or accidentally said something that offended you but you should never forgive someone who abused or hurt you seriously.

No. 1732614

>>1732610
Forgiveness was supposed to mean not feeling angry at someone anymore for what they did, people seem to mistake this for letting go of a grudge.
>Forgiveness is liking a person again despite their actions
>Letting go and moving on is still feeling upset but not letting them affect you anymore and finding joy in other things
People conflate them and basically say “let them back into your life”

No. 1732634

Did anyone else hate the ending of Diary of a mad black woman cause she forgave her shitty husband

No. 1732639

>>1732634
Wasn't it written and directed by Tyler Perry? The same moid who claimed that women should give broke males a chance? No wonder he made them protagonist "forgive and forget" her shitty husband's actions, he thinks women should give any moid a chance. But what could I expect from a comedian who kept relying on drag to make comedy?

No. 1732786

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(Repost cuz image quality) Put this in the Reddit Hate Thread a while back, didn’t get any responses so may as well try here. Basically this person is a Christian who thinks everyone can be forgiven and wants to know they could spread this. Kinda fucked that “how could I work my faith into this” is one of your first thoughts when hearing a horrific abuse testimony and believing a victim will have to forgive their abuser because “God demands it” says a lot about your values. Any thoughts?

No. 1732851

>>1732786
The people who believe in this ideology are retarded. They are so deluded by the ramblings of ancient schizophrenics that they prioritize the rehabilitation and redemption of rapists because the ancient schizophrenics believed in sexual slavery. This sort of ideology is usually held by actual abusers, the sanctimonious, and the brainwashed. "I have to forgive my abuser because God demands it" spawned because the males who invented the religion loved to rape their sisters wives. By placing the burden of the crime on the victim they make it to so that any punishment seems godless.

No. 1732875

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>>1732851
The interesting thing about these Christian Universalists is that they think God is all loving but they also believe in hell. Granted a temporary hell but still, it’s pretty odd that God is all loving but still punishes crime, should he not be loving the crimes too? Some of these people don’t even believe in hell, just your abuser will be in infinite paradise with you no matter what because they felt bad or they got put in a hell to break their mind into loving and agreeing with God. Sounds more like a tyrant making people agree with his ideologies to me and is also why all loving unconditional being doesn’t work, because all love good all hate bad. Abrahamic religion is a cancer

No. 1732889

I'm sick of toxic positivity in regards to the country and also the city where I live. There is a real decline in living standards and bad governance, but people insist because it's not a 3rd world shithole yet then residents have no right to complain.

No. 1732891

>>1732875
>Abrahamic religion is a cancer
fucking agree. hardcore christians have their heads so far up their own asses. i never say anything to them, but as soon as they start blabbing bible bullshit, i mentally check out as if one would while hearing pure gibberish. i can't take them seriously.

No. 1732972

>>1732786
Religious people are a danger to humankind as a whole but especially to children. They should be banned from working with kids because imagine if such a vulnerable kid was told this shit and how much it could negatively influence them for the rest of their lives? To stay on topic I cannot stand the whole "they're your family so theh obviously love you and you must forgive them" idea that everyone believes. How am I supposed to believe my parents love me when they beat me up often as a kid and threatened me with a lot of horrific shit just in case I would become an annoying kid like my big sister? And even in her case beating her up was way too disproportionate compared to her having lower grades than they wanted while still being a good student. I'm supposed to believe I should forgive the people who ruined my life long term for their own benefits. Teachers at school would tell me to forgive my racist, violent bullies just so they would work less during recess, etc. Thank god I'm a contrarian and alwayd questioned everything even as a small child but now people in similar cases as mine are shitting out kids, beating them up and insulting them for not being adults yet and saying it's normal because they turned into good adults thanks to all the abuse they went through and they're grateful to their parents for abusing them.

No. 1732983

>>1732786
Don't even know how to describe my hatred for pricks like this

No. 1733093

>>1732786
I have no words for the rage I felt upon finishing reading this but this person is evil on earth. Absolute evil on earth. How on earth could any civil, decent person listen to that child's story and rather than think about the most suitable path for the kid's own best interests, wax an entire paragraph on reddit about how to push your crackhead ideology onto them. Fuck, I hate religion. It's the most self-serving, own-fart-smelling, selfish, deranged cult in existence and I have no clue how we as a society let these people (and any religion for that matter, Christian, Jew, Muslim, I could give less of a fuck) force their crap down everyone's throats around them. I rarely wish pain on others but I think I can take this one occasion to indulge in their retarded practices and pray that this person endures even a fraction of the suffering, humiliation and trauma that that child went through. Maybe then they'll have second thoughts about the existence of a God who just 'allows' this shit to happen.

No. 1733152

Idk if this goes here but like. The constant refrain of "girls support girls!!!" and the idea that if you criticize a woman as another woman you're being unfeminist.

No. 1733171

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I think this thread is great! Anyway never trust girls with kawaii cutesy aesthetics, those who claim to be positive but are absolutely insane.

No. 1733177

>>1733152
Agreed, there's things done under the influence of "just support everything women say!!" That aren't good to women to begin with. One thing I can think of is when libfems push the idea of sex work/casual sex with moids. Because Yas queen let's be sex positive or some shit.

No. 1733184

I'm gonna vent about bullying and forgiveness. I hate the trope of the bully apologizing to the victim and the victim forgiving them. Or bullies to best friends. "Oh yeah they were my worst enemy now they're my best friend." Why the fuck do you want someone that uses terroristic menacing and social alienating tactics as a fucking friend? Raise your standards. I refuse to even watch A Silent Voice. As someone that got a lot of bullying in school AND many apologies after it was over via the internet it makes me SEETHE. And no I didn't accept any of the apologies. What so they can feel good about themselves one more fucking time at my expense? I truly don't think bullies ever change. They are all ego.

No. 1733192

>>1733152
You're going to get them mad
>>1733184
>I refuse to even watch A Silent Voice
Good, it's a load of horseshit and will sting deeper if you ever had to physically confront a bully

No. 1733193

>>1733184
Agree so much. As someone who has been bullied by others during school years (included online bullying and mocking my hobbies) and whose former best friends turned to bullies, that forgiveness is so wrong. I won't forgive people who ruined some years of my life. They are narcisstic psychos. I did nothing to provoke them, they picked up on me because they saw me as shy or isolated and because they hated anyone who isn't a normie (or in other cases, hypersexual queerness and troon rights enjoyer). By that logic people might as well be told to forgive abusers such as rapists or anyone who harassed them a lot in some way, this shit doesn't work. While I agree that there's more to life than bad memories and they should be processed of course, forgiving the bullies is sick and actually upholds the abusive system that doesn't care about those who suffer and created more and more pathologies.

No. 1733195

>>1733184
That movie actually pissed me off. Japan looooves to romantize bullying and think everything was totally okay since the man is totes sorry and the victim will forgive him, if she didnt already try to kill herself. It was a hard watch and I am glad to see I'm not the only one who didnt like that movie.

No. 1733205

>>1733193
I don't think when people say to forgive they literally mean pretend like nothing happened and continue to let them mistreat you. I think it's a unconcise way of encouraging people to let go of the negativity associated with that person or event. It's healthier for people to not ruminate over things that happened in highschool for instance. Maybe I'm misinterpreting but this is what I've percieved it to mean for most of my life (but maybe my life is a lie kek?)

No. 1733208

So many people have expected me to forgive my mother and her insane husband for committing murder. I refuse to be in contact and have completely changed my life to avoid her and still, some idiots who only have a sliver of information on what happen insist that she has changed and grown
No, she hasnt. She hasnt gone to therapy besides two sessions. She bothers my childhood friends for “updates” on me that they will not give.
Some people can not be forgiven. And I told her before I cut her off the only way I would be able to would be if she turned herself in and confessed.
She wont, but she thrives on making herself the victim of a bitter daughter who abandoned her. She refuses to be honest with herself and others, and she utilizes flying monkeys whenever she can.

No. 1733239

>>1733208
Who did they kill?

No. 1733242

>>1733208
You’re supposed to report people who commit murder, nona.

No. 1733270

>>1732786
I mean universalism is a joke, but I don't see how this is any worse or even on par with leftists who worship melanin and let nigger, spic, and sandnigger murders/rapist/assulters/theives out of jail because >muh systemic racism muh socicio economic status. At least this is just a philisophical musing, right now people are being murdered after a Democrat DA let their murder out of jail following everything up to a first murder. You have absolutely brainwashed people like Amy Biehl's and Mollie Tibbetts' making a public spectacle out of how much they forgive their daughters' shitskin murders because otherwise they'd be RACIST. The Department of Justice has a whole covert task force they send to white victims of horrendious shitskin violence, like the Wisconsin parade victims, in order to pressure them into remembering that you have to forgive those who do violence to you and also you better not dare bring up the race of the perp you filth white racist. Even here, in this very thread, I'm going to eat a ban because according to the faggot mods I have to ignore and forgive all the spic and nigger men who sexually assualted me in my life.(racebait)

No. 1733292

Tired of being expected to forgive my shitty abusive parents and allow them into my life. They can burn in hell. Normalize no contact with toxic relatives. Everyone acts like I'm an asshole when all I'm doing is trying to protect myself.

No. 1733314

>>1733242
I remember an anon saying in another thread long ago that her mother killed her brother and it was considered self-defence but it wasn't actually true, so it might be her.

No. 1733392

>>1733270
More white women are murdered by white men than men of other races. Like I know racism is your cope so you can continue fucking white men without guilt or fear but white men are still men. They're prosecuted less for similar crimes but they commit rape and dv at similar levels as other races of men within a country. Violence is a male thing ultimately, no matter the race. You have far more in common with a black woman than a white man but sure call all blacks shitskins like the nazi bride you are, I'm sure your perfect Aryan man will pick you one day.

No. 1733472

>>1733242
I did, snarky anon. The cops never followed through and the case was close pretty quickly.

No. 1733495

>>1733270
Meanwhile the white scrote that raped me when I was 6 didn't even get convicted and spent 0 nights in jail before the trial. You're so lucky that being pressured to forgive is your top complaint tbh.

No. 1733532

>>1733270
Most embarrassing behavior.

No. 1733584

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>>1733392
Then there's this. I understand that black, middle eastern, and Hispanic men are full of creeps are rapists. However, why is it that people love to act like white men don't do the same shit? They disproportionately perpetrate rape against indigenous women in different states and communities.

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>>1733584
To add, there's also this. Indigenous women are the most likely group in America to be raped by men outside their race, and most of those men are white men. But no. According to that one anon, all brown people are just "shitskins", right? We're all rapists, and none of us are ever assaulted by white guys, right?

No. 1733636

>>1733292
The thing about forgiveness is that, like other forms of healing, it’s not one size fits all. It’s like something like exposure therapy, it can work for some people and it can be effective but there’s people it doesn’t work for and trying to force it is just gonna make things worse.

No. 1733863

>>1733193
IAWTC. Trying to become a friend to a bully is retarded boomer fiction, just like loser males=sensitive good guys. I thought I had befriended a misunderstood girl in high school, it turned out she really was just a bitch, and gave her a chance to humiliate me OUTSIDE of school as well, and then mock me again at school for being stupid.

No. 1733932

Anyone else just roll their eyes when people demonize all negative emotions (aka anything that isn’t unrelenting happiness) and they usually say you need to get rid of your “ego” which is usually said to be negative aspects of yourself which is gonna be subjective as hell. It’s just uncomfortable to see because it’s not healthy to wanna permanently rid yourself of what you view as negative emotions so much and think you were born “corrupted” simply for having a sense of self and to think death would purify you or some shit.

No. 1733942

>>1733932
Posted this because as someone who’s been trying to get into spirituality it’s so difficult because of all this “forgiveness” talk and “keep yourself happy” stuff, I understand that it’s probably not too prevalent beyond Reddit, TikTok, and other spaces known for this stupidity but it gets on my nerves and just makes me wanna avoid all of it because it seems like this “anti-negativity” crowd is just growing and growing

No. 1733960

>>1733586
I hate nonnies who try to put a culture or political spectrum on rape because you know they would NEVER believe someone accusing their scrote friends of rape. I got raped at a party with a bunch of lib white + asian college kids and they proceeded to avoid me. One of them defended the rapist and got the case dropped. And when I called them out on it, they refused to acknowledge that their friend is a rape apologist because he's so nice, and he's so liberal blah blah.
point is if you have a specific stereotype in your head of what a rapist is, you probably think your friends are the exception and would be complicit in rape apology if given the opportunity.

No. 1734027

I wish we were never taught to be kind and forgiving as children. It only ever led to us being abused by males. We shouldn't teach little girls to be nice, especially not to males. We shouldn't teach them to try to empathize with people who are clearly disturbed and who have hurt them. We should teach them to trust their own feelings and prioritize their own safety over other's feelings. I don't care if it sounds cold or callous. Scrotes can cry about how women are all big meanies, but they force us to be this way. If they're so damn lonely they can hug and compliment each other.

No. 1734031

>>1733932
>>1733942

IMO a step to becoming more spiritual or self-aware is actually accepting negative emotions. It is allowing yourself to cry, to gradually become aware of what makes you that way. It is a way that leads to self-acceptance and maturing . Crying, as a mechanism, has a purpose and one of those purposes is to release pent up energy, be it good or bad one.

Anyways a lot of these "spiritual" "anti-negativity" crowd are fucking up their psyche because they force repressing emotions that are considered negative. And then they turn to hard drugs to cope because they have to keep up the happy persona mask.

No. 1734034

>>1734027
Yes, I was taught all these things at school and obeyed because I didn't want to have bad grades it be beaten up again, but I'm glad there were moments when I still followed my instinct or I would have died 20 years ago at least. I'll never forget how the same parents and teachers who told me to blindly obey every single adults and authority figure I meet didn't think some old woman would try to kidnap me by trying to make me follow her with compliments and orders when I was a small child. It can go so far I don't think adults realize it and they just teach kids to be doormats just so raising and educating kids will be less annoying for them. Now that I don't have anything to lose except my job I reverted back to my real personality and instead of people thinking I'm shy and introverted and in need of people trying to bother and befriend me they think I'm a bit of an asshole because I refuse to do and say stupid shit and it's so freeing. Meanwhile in school if I defended myself against bullies I was the only one punished and threatened to be kicked out of the school so I had no choice but to pretend I was nice and forgiving to everyone.

No. 1734066

>>1733177
Casual sex is probably the one thing I'm not talking about, I don't really think it's a moral failing.

No. 1734083

>>1734034
One thing they sure didn't teach you in school: punctuation.

No. 1734091

>>1734027
I think girls should be taught to empathize with other girls. If you're a woman, it's way too common to be demonized for saying something unpopular to men by both men and women. Men do it because they're moids, women do it because they're pickmes and want to show the moids that "see, I care about men's rights too". There is no such thing as "girl code" that girls are taught by their mothers. If anything, many are taught the exact opposite, that other women are their enemy.

No. 1734092

>>1734083
Sorry for being a severely sleep deprived ESL I guess. Trying to vent while recovering from a cold.

No. 1734100

>>1733171
The biggest pick mes I ever did encounter were kawaii e-girls with an all pink wardrobe. Never again on god.

No. 1734387

>>1734031
Honestly it seems almost less spiritual to wish to get rid of all negativity and want all other emotions gone, isn’t that working in absolutes? And isn’t trying to fit everything into the categories of either “crime” or “completely fine” black and white thinking? I’m pretty sure those are things to avoid and all these spaces using them shows that they’re really just slowly killing themselves

No. 1737545

I hate smiling people. Why the hell are you smiling for no reason, are you on drugs? Are you rubbing it in my face that your life is so good?

No. 1737684

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I hate it when people defend deathfats and anachans even when they're clearly being destructive and know exactly what they're doing. I know it's because of muh mental illness but that doesn't mean you have to coddle them. That only makes them worse.

No. 1737693

>>1737684
I think this is true. The social workers and doctors and nutritionists in recovery centers are honestly kinda mean/stern, they’re not remotely coddling. they’ll listen to your problems but then they’ll tell you to get it together and act right and stop self harming lol

No. 1737887

>>1732889
kek greetings fellow canadian

No. 1738613

>>1732889
This! So fucking much. Who let this brainworm spread that you can't complain about declining living standards because we're in a first world country and others have it worse? Okay let's bring back child labour because things are even worse somewhere else on the planet so it's not that bad actually. People are so retarded and brainwashed.

No. 1739479

Today at work my boss asked how I'm doing and when I replied "over caffeinated" she said to really speak my mind. Told her that I'm actually tired and yet feel over caffeinated from some coffee. She then tells me that is the INCORECT answer! I should always reply that I am happy and doing AMAZING! That is some serious bullshit. If I am fake happy with our customers what does it matter? I am so sick of the idea that any emotion other than overly fake saccharine happiness is unacceptable especially from women. How dare there be any level of emotional complexity in us. Negative emotions aren't even negative they can just be the in-between when we aren't smiling in actual joy. It paints our sky gray and navy so that we can appreciate the bright blue sky. We should be allowed to talk about the rough patches or at least acknowledge the mundane shitty moments.

No. 1739507

>>1732889
>>1737887
I think it's bots because it happens every time anyone complains about anything, even if the complaint is completely reasonable and the complainer is obnoxiously polite about it.
>Had to miscarry on a stretcher in the hallway today, totally understand and am so grateful for the care I received but it would have been nice if the nurse provided a privacy curtain and didn't roll her eyes and call me a drug seeker every time I cried
>REEEEEEEEEE HEALTHCARE HEROES IT'S A HOSPITAL NOT A HOTEL ENTITLED ENTITLED JUST BE THANKFUL YOU'RE ALIVE

No. 1740401

You how in French when you greet each other you say "ça va?" and "ça va et toi?" almost automatically regardless of how you're actually doing? I'm so tempted to reply no every single time I'm asked this. Also shout out to my manager who's really bad at lying and trying to be positive because she's always pretending everything is perfect and our client is satisfied but she looks like she's about to have a mental breakdown someday.

No. 1740521

>>1734027
>It only leads us to being abused by males
Speak for yourself. Yes all women and girls are taught "be nice" but some are smart enough to steer clear of males their entire young lives and only interact if it necessitates work commitments and family. Don't conflate idiotic life choices within your own control with prototypical female socialization being the reason for yourself being a doormat and succumbing to male abuse.

>We should teach them to trust their own feelings
No, this is woo woo retardation. Normative statement soapbox anon. "We" should teach them to think critically and look at fucking statistics. A good example of female socialization is this thread where anons are referring to rapists and not outrightly the obvious; males. The "be kind" socialization is even here on a anonymous fucking imageboard. Being a retard and trusting intuition is the same coin of brain-dead logic you're espousing. Safety is just an extension of critical thought so safety will hopefully.

>>1734091
>There is no "Girl-Code"
There is no male code either though. It's closer to rape code and institutional code that allows men to wreak havoc through wars and crime, so I don't think anyone should get bent out of shape over how there's no "girl code". Bonding over shared rape appreciation isn't "boy code", men allow others to be culled constantly, men mock others dying and suffering too just like so many women do. But you're absolutely right that women tear apart other women extra severely for questioning the rape ape order of society. Most males will only threaten rape and turn hatred into violence when confronting challenging opinions from the collective of ape society while women will make deliberate character-attacks e.g make fun of the appearence of the person, question their intelligence/expertise, all not in a sexual way, or "out whore" other women like you say in a pickme fashion. They will also "out cool" in a foolish female socialization intrasexual competitive way and/or grandstand morally to one up other women to an audience of women doing the same. Men don't even bother trying to one up women intellectually usually because they already Dunning Kruger their way to success and are assumed better by birthright even when they are bumbling retards kek.

No. 1740547

>>1739507
I hate victims who are oh-so-forgiving to their abusers/assaulters in interviews for this reason. It reeks of compelled speech.

No. 1741079

>>1740521
>Speak for yourself. Yes all women and girls are taught "be nice" but some are smart enough to steer clear of males their entire young lives and only interact if it necessitates work commitments and family. Don't conflate idiotic life choices within your own control with prototypical female socialization being the reason for yourself being a doormat and succumbing to male abuse
Nta but what kind of response is this, you're acting as if girls don't get abused even if they do their best to avoid males and make all the right choices. What if some girl is being abused at school or by family? They can't steer clear if they're forced to interact with them. I did all I could to avoid them and still got abused because teachers will put males right next to well behaving students and some of those fuckers will follow you around.

No. 1741398

tfw my friend has no 'bad thoughts' or ever criticizes her hobbies because shes scared of fandom bullies. she ships everything because she doesn't want to get jumped on but honestly i don't care, fandoms aren't worth anything and no amount of retard validation she gets is worth walking around on eggshells for

No. 1741503

>>1741079
>but some are smart enough to steer clear of males their entire young lives and only interact if it necessitates work commitments and family.

You may have missed the last part. Don't behave as if being abused at an unsafe place and idiotic decisions is a mistake anyone would make and is comparable to those places. School and family is not an option of interaction but the vast majority of domestic abuse is committed by womens nigels, and much abuse is from idiotic decisions to trust nigels in clearly unsafe public venues. I was also abused in a coed school like most girls but no one should normalize women going to bars, and going to parties to be raped as if these are normal decisions and not idiotic. Come on, most dv is committed by a womans partner. Much of womens abuse stems from their tolerance to be abused and exceptionalism that they won't be victims like all other women.

No. 1749259

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Picrel isn’t the full post but it has everything I wanna cover in it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/awakened/comments/17k1dso/the_truth/

TLDR
>Schizophrenic has hallucinations
>Thinks they redeemed demons or some shit
>”No one’s bad just stupid, stop calling people out”
>Totally doesn’t need meds, hallucinations are real
Non-dualism and “no one is bad shit” has cultish thinking, if you say we should never call people out because “everyone is god” you’re not only delusional but you’re everything wrong with the world today, I always have to wonder why human made morality would apply to supernatural forces when I see this shit

No. 1752863

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I need to rant about “Reddit spirituality” as I call it, this will be long bear with me. Essentially it’s this belief that all judgements are bad, all punishment is immoral, and we all need to conform and become, essentially, a hive mind. These people will shame you for being “judgmental” but what they really mean is that you think for yourself and you don’t always come to the conclusion that everything is happy goodness and rainbows! They live in delusion, delusion of some sort of “source” that will eliminate all the negative things of you AKA anything that they don’t wanna deal with, they is pretty much just cult shit repackaged. These people are all just sanctimonious, can’t point out flaws with their ideology or they get defensive, it’s telling none of them have any retort other than “you’ll see” there’s a reason this shit is so underground, everyone outside of the deranged shitholes that are Reddit and TikTok would completely destroy these beliefs because the rest of us know that telling abuse victims that they “did something previously to deserve it” or telling them that they’ll do the same shit one day is deranged shit only done by insane people who need to be locked up. If you don’t believe what I’ve said scroll through picrel or the Spirituality tag on any site you’ll find this bullshit easily

No. 1753414

The word “lingerie” annoys me. Just say underwear

No. 1753471

My nigel keeps telling people they have to love and respect their parents and husbands when he was literally abused by his piece of shit alcoholic stepmom and grew up watching her and his dad beat eachother. His grandad is a pastor so idk what the fuck he told my nigel to justify not getting off his ass to help but he used god to get the point across so now my nigel is all fucked up about how parents and children are supposed to work

No. 1753476

>>1741398
That’s such a weird thing to do. What’s the point of fandom then? I understand walking on eggshells if it’s for your job, but fandom’s supposed to be fun…

No. 1754075

Fandom wikias should include some of the darker details of scandals but also not rewrite history over them. I hate Oomori Seiko as much as the next reasonable person but her being an abusive shit to her band mates in ZoC doesn't erase factual information about her life.

I know one song by some other group that people found what song the instrumental came from but the wikia page doesn't have any info on it because it looks bad or something for the company to have used a sample soundbank for a wholeass song.

And always hated when people censor mild words like "racist." Bitch, I know what you wrote, starring out one letter ain't change shit.


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