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No. 168096

I know at this point in my life the "friends with benefit" arrangement would probably suit me best but I feel the need to aim for the "boyfriend" standard because anything less would cause me to lose face if I lose my virginity in a "casual/non brag worthy/non romantic" situation. I'm an older virgin and in college; most people prefer the casual arrangement since they are in that transition stage of HS first love>casual college flings>serious marriage potential LTR.

I was casually dating this one guy and it was working up to a serious relationship with sexually exclusivity and what not but now thinking back to our conversations that was all we had- the only thing we ever talked about late at night is what we'd like to do with each other and general phone sex. When I see him I pounce him like a horny cat and gobble his cock like it was the last cock in the entire world. He was experienced and I wasn't. Yet He treated me tenderly and we were sexually compatible.

but at the end of the day, I did not care to "make it be known" that I wanted to be his girlfriend or be girlfriend material. I didn't want to meet his friends, they seemed like a bunch of stoners. Besides I have my own friends. and me and him didn't have any common interests- I just imagine us being official and situations arise where any of the following happens-
>he and his group of friends hang out and have a smoke sesh and everyone he knows is there except for me
>we'll be arguing over what type of music to play in the house (he likes soundcloud trap electronic beats idm edm whatever music) and he won't take my suggestions seriously. i won't be interested in any of his interests and he won't be mine
>he'll forever resent me for always rolling my eyes at him and never truly respecting him
Yeah I'll expect the basic sexual decency and respect such as being able to spend the night, him getting checked and using protection, cuddling, pillow talk etc but my eyes gloss over when he starts talking about how him and his friends got high or what his plans are for school. He talks about planning Valentine's Day as a special event and to me it's just another day of the year. However knowing this, I made it clear to him I wasn't going to have sex until he makes a grand gesture to me that he does think I'm "something special" even if that specialness is just something shared between us and not socially. I wanted him to romance me and seduce me and essentially give me intellectual foreplay.

I did not sleep with him. We broke up after he tried numerous "plays" from the "get the girl to sleep with you" playbook. The whole "act like you're not interested" or "dangle a relationship possibility in front of me like cheese" doesn't work on me because I feel entitled to be romanced from the "girlfriend/significant other playbook" since I'm a virgin and not the "any casual girl playbook".

It would be absolutely humiliating to me when I tell the story to my friends because immediately they would adapt the "women are always victims" mindset and victimize me because I "deserved better". I hate having people pity me and I see the way certain gal pals covertly "pity shame" girls who have sex outside their LTR ideal. Like they would "feel sorry" for girls who had sex at an early age(but really they are gossiping) or immediately jump on the "he's just using you for sex!" to a girl the morning after while she's telling us friends. I won't get the satisfaction of relaying my sexual adventures having the adage "honey he's probably using you" looming over my head. The types of girls who pull this got to lose their virginities to their first loves in High School whom they dated for 1-2 years.

I am not ashamed of my sexuality, in fact I've considering cutting these specific female friends so I don't have to deal with these imaginary constraints (and have sex the way i want)but that won't work because now I've internalized these ideals and feel entitled to them as well. What do you guys think? What would you do?

No. 168097

>>168096
go post in the vent or relationship advice thread

No. 168098

You're a virgin because you think your vieginity is some super special important thing that should be held up on a pedestal and properly appreciated before you lose it. It's not. You will not feel any different after you lose your virginity, maybe sweaty and tingly but that's it. There's no fanfare, no congratulations from your partner for overinflating its importance, no wave of life changing clarity that sweeps over you and changes the way you see life.

It sounds like you have a good deal with this guy, if you don't like him then cut ties with him. Be up front with what you want from him, don't say you don't want to be with him but at the same time you want some grand gesture from him that makes him "deserving" of your virginity despite you gobbling his cock so willingly. That's sending mixed signals like a mofo.

Take it from someone who was raised by super religious abstinence pushers, it's not that big of a deal. Treating it like it is and putting virginity on a pedestal will only serve to disappoint you, and nobody else. Unless you make some kind of announcement post on FB nobody will know or care anyway. Besides, it's not how many times you have sex or how many people you have sex with, it's how good the sex is and how you feel about the person you have sex with.

Sage for preaching

No. 168099

>>168098
Agree to the it's not a big deal since I'm only a virgin by technicality; it doesn't speak to measuring how sexually curious or confident I am since I've done everything else and other experimentation- only that I've never done PIV.

I'm actually one of the girls who wants to hear and encourage all of my gal pal's sexual adventures- there's nothing that implies she wasn't consenting and enjoying herself after all but then there's this looming voice over all of our heads of doubt. Friends who pick at any weird behavior that could be considered red flags and cast doubt into your experience. Then we get into this same habit of "testing the guy just to be sure".

I'd be more upset if my friend were to say "Just keep waiting, you deserve more" because it implies pittance and condescension from her. I'm worried about where I'll be put in that "imaginary pecking order" within my female social circles.
>>168097
sorry how would I merge this thread with the relationship one?

No. 168100

>>168098
I do agree it's not exactly a space shuttle launch, but I think it's best to lose with a friend than just hooking up with some random person whose name you don't know
Just me though



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