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No. 1606
Alright, I love this thread already.
I use Midori (a Japanese dictionary) and iSokki (study tool) on my iphone. You may be able to find those for other phone types or tablets too.
I studied Japanese in high school, took courses in college, and went to Japan for a semester, but I've been sorely lacking in my studies. I have a lot of books at home too but since went recently moved I'll have to get them out again.
One good book I have is "How to tell the difference between Japanese particles" and that helps me a lot because it's something I trip up on quite a bit.
>>1603I'll look up "mo" but I'm pretty sure it's used in what you've described and not in another manner though I'd be curious to see the sentence that's giving you trouble.
No. 1607
>>1605I used to have Tae Kim on my phone. I'll have to redownload it.
Memrise is another good site to study kanji and grammar, like you said.
No. 1608
>>1605I used livemocha a few years ago to make friends. I have a decent network of friends from the people I met there and then meeting their friends and so on. Places like lang-8 aren't so great for me either since I don't really like blogging. The concept is fantastic, however, and I wish I had the confidence to utilize it. Livemocha is useful for getting those first connections though. If you're nervous I'd recommend talking to some old people to begin with. Old Japanese people learning English are super kind and patient.
I've been lazily studying for a few years but this past year is what finally made everything stick. Speaking to someone who doesn't give a shit about English has forced me to really think and improve. Doing quizzes and reading example sentences got me down since I never felt like I was able to actually do things on my own. I can't stress how important it is to talk to someone. I'm really shy so it was hard to get comfortable at first but I found someone who is so kind and encouraging and I'm learning at quadruple speed now just from daily chitchat and bullshit. It also makes me kick my own ass to make sure I study because I actually have a solid reason for learning the language now.
No. 1610
>>1603Are you by chance confusing も and もう? Because も as a particle means what you said, "again, as well, me too", and もう functions in a similar way, for instance もういちど would mean "One more time/repeat/once again". も is used as a general particle whereas もう is used in slightly more specific contexts.
>>1609In my case, I'm half so, duh, learn the language of my people. I'm also interested in languages in general, so have dabbled in others to learn their structure and phonology.
No. 1612
>>1609I'm a big fucking weeb.
>love the culture (for the most part)>live in Japan most of the year since I have an online business>Japanese boyfriendLivin' the dream.
I guess I just enjoy the contrast of a place like Japan to the melting pot of America. It's neat feeling like a kid again learning about different cultural quirks and the way things work there. The same can be said for just about any country but I'm just not quite as interested in anywhere else like I am in Japan. European countries don't feel foreign enough to me (although I wouldn't pass up the opportunity to visit) and out of the asian countries Japan has always been my top pick. It's stupid so I won't deny being weeb scum but there you have it.
No. 1613
>>1612Impressive. I hope everything works out for you, it can be hard being an 'expat' but you have your bf to help you with the language and culture at least.
Good luck!
No. 1614
>>1609
>is it because you're weebs?You realise Japan consists of more than just anime, right?
Japan presently has the 3rd largest economy and it's constantly expanding. Career wise I'll never be wont for a job due to the need for native English speaking (especially British like me) teachers/interpreters/translators/international relations co-ordinators etc.
>russianThe effort it takes to learn Russian
>germanWhat's so special about Germany?
>french?LOL WHO DOES BUSINESS THERE ANY MORE
At any rate there's an enormous amount of people that already speak German and French. It's an oversaturated market that at present requires no further additions. You need to start looking at the more niche areas, like Korean or Chinese since Asia is fastly becoming the new world power.
That aside, I just think the language is beautiful and I enjoy speaking it.
Find a job you love and you'll never work a day in your life etc. etc.
No. 1620
>>1609My dad's side was military so growing up my grandmother had a lot of asian art in her home. A Buddha painting, a carved wooden screen, small figures, a fan, Japanese triptych painting of cranes, kimono, scrolls, that sort of thing. My dad lived in Japan and Malaysia growing up so I'd hear their stories and I'd want to go.
Of course anime had an influence but for me I realized I could pick up words from watching the subtitles and making connections that way so I began teaching myself. It was a fun challenge at the time but I never thought it was to be like my Japanez animes or that when I went to Japan it would be sparkles and Pocky.
It was pretty interesting being there, around a whole homogenous culture though it felt like home too at points.
So I'm not sure why or how it got its claws stuck in me but I'd like to learn more because I got lazy for a while. It helps too that I have Japanese and American Japanese friends so I can still have the desire to communicate and not forget what I've learned; though I get super nervous when I try to talk.
>>1608This is good advice. One girl, our sponsor, at our dorm would only speak Japanese to the gaijin but I assumed she knew English. The other sponsor would always speak English with us, so a lot of us became lazy linguistically.
I need to find someone and just practice. If you live in a big area, try Meetup.com. When I lived in Denver there was always a Japanese conversation group that met weekly, so it was handy to have those reminders.
No. 1630
Here, have a neat online dictionary.
http://jisho.org/You can search words, kanji and if you don't know how to use some word, it has example sentences.
This site is also nice, it lists various sources for learning Japanese
http://nihongo-e-na.com/Dictionary that searches bilingual sites, useful if you need words in context:
http://www.linguee.com/english-japaneseA bit more advanced:
http://www.weblio.jp/ - good for terminology translation
Online Japanese accent dictionary:
http://www.gavo.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/ojad/ No. 43710
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My university played host to a very famous celebrity language teacher today, 笈川幸司 (おいかわ こうじ), and his educational seminars are kind of like a comedy routine.
I have really fucking bad performance anxiety and when I get put on the spot I instantly blank out, so I spent the first 2 hours of the seminar squirming in my chair trying to appear small, and in the last fucking 20 minutes he senses my fear and attacks.
Repeatedly humiliated me in front of everybody.
I forgot all of my Japanese, could only meekly squeak "はい、私です" and "すみません、ただの一年生です…".
Everybody laughed.
I wanted to die.
I hate everything.
He kept referring me as the "young, beautiful woman" in Japanese and fuck it was so embarrassing fuck fuck.
FUCK
No. 43711
>>43710Owned.
This is why Japanese people hate weebs
No. 43712
>>43711
>studying Modern Languages & Translation with Japanese modules makes you a weebAlso it was a comedy piece, he picks on the audience deliberately and he did to the Japanese guests too.
I'm sorry your parents raised you to not understand the inherit value of language and linguistics. They must have been terrible parents.
No. 43762
>>1603I haven't seen other people answer this so I'll give it a shot
You can use も to mean "as many as…" Its opposite is しか which means "as few as" or "only". My favorite example is Valentine's Day.
When you say "１０チョコももらった" (my Japanese is really shoddy so I might have worded this wrong but it's generally number + も), it implies "WOW I GOT 10 CHOCOLATES!!! 10!!!" Meanwhile, "１チョコしかもらった" would be like "weh weh I only got 1 chocolate :("
I hope that helps! (I could also be very wrong, someone please correct me if I am!)
No. 43883
>>43762You use しか with a negative verb. Your example "I only got 1 chocolate" would be "一個のチョコしかもらわなかった"
>>43764I took the N2 two years ago. Been wanting to give N1 a try but I also really don't wanna study kanji again…
No. 43886
>>43883N2? Wow, I'm impressed.
I'm only a first year student and i'm so covering ~tara, ~tai, hou ga ii desu etc.
Where I am now I can't even imagine getting to that level, although I'll be in Japan for a year as part of my course.
No. 43891
>>43889Actually before I flutter off somewhere else, I want to ask your advice.
I'm being studying the language 2 years now, and whilst my pronunciation and pause is pretty spot-on and I have a wider vocabulary than anybody else in my class, I have pretty bad performance anxiety.
When I get put on the spot and expected to respond/reply in Japanese I freak out and in that instant forget almost everything I've learned to date.
Have you ever experienced this or have any tips on how to get over it so that I can converse fluidly and without getting shy and flustered?
No. 43941
>>43891Personally I really do love speaking, a lot more than writing or reading, so presentations and oral exams were never much of an issue for me. I do however have to keep reminding myself that making mistakes is an essential part of language learning, and rather than making sure I speak 100% correct Japanese all the time (which would definitely make me trip) I try my best to sound as natural as possible.
Practise and getting comfortable with the language is the key, I guess. Do you have the opportunities to meet up with Japanese exchange students? If so you should definitely consider asking them for regular language exchange meetups.
Immersion is important too. I've had Japanese TV (yes even anime is ok) running whenever I was home just to get used to the language even when I wasn't actively practising it. I want to think it made a difference.
No. 43957
I had enough money left on my scholarship for another class after I satisfied all of the requirements for my degree, so I took the Japanese class I'd always wanted to take. That was last fall quarter. I got really, really sick toward the end of the term and wasn't able to continue the series of classes (I wanted to, even though I'd have had to start paying out of pocket), though, and I have no one to practice Japanese with, so I feel like I've already lost most of what I learned. I've wanted to take a photography-based trip to Japan for so long and I really want to have at least a beginner's grasp on the language before I go. Even if I had the money to go back and take more classes (which I don't, at the moment), I wouldn't know whether to try to jump into the 2nd term of the class or re-take the series starting with the 1st term again. I don't know if I should just try to continue learning on my own or what, but this thread is reminding me that I really want to stop letting what I learned slip away.
>>43891I had the same problem when I was in the class I took. It was so bad, I felt like my anxiety was going to kill me.
No. 48322
>>48127Same here.
I started learning in middle school because my friend wanted to learn, and she needed a partner. She's Asian American (don't really know of which tho), guess she was going back to her roots because her parents couldn't teach her. I continued because it was fun and challenging and because the middle school I was attending at the time didn't offer electives beyond art, home ec, and computer classes and it gave me something to do during algebra lmao.
I hate being called a weeb for wanting to learn it because I can't get into weeb culture at all. Anime, kawaii shit, jpop… It's never been for me. I've only finished
3 anime in my life (over the course of 2-3yrs), and I don't plan on watching anymore. The long winded dialogues kill me. The only reason I would like to go to Japan is for the vending machines and the cuisine. I really wanna try that Royal coffee man.
Anyway, I've been searching for genki PDFs, anybody got em? Or some other Japanese textbooks that use furigana and no romaji whatsoever? Korean textbooks are welcome too.
Anybody studying to be an interpreter/translator by any chance?
No. 48345
>>48322I got into it all when I was about 11/12 and I liked all the kawaii totemo bento box shit back then. Being mind this was 2003/2004 when it was not so much popular on the internet? Like there wasn't any of this e-famous white girl "i wanna be anime girl dakota rose" bs.
I would have weebed like mad if that was around then but now, nah. When you get older it doesn't appeal to you anymore but I still kind of like the pop culture, I do love cute things and I am willing to start learning more about the country. I probably bug my Japanese friends more about everyday things and just ask them for language help.
But lately when I see fuckers like Himezawa, tumblr and that I just shudder.
No. 48450
>>48354I'm studying it at university.
My tuition is £9000 per year.
I'm going on an exchange in my 3rd year.
I'm the top of my class and got moved directly into year 2 upon enrolment.
What was that u shit.
No. 48473
>>48450Out of interest, what will you do with it once you are fluent?
I'm learning German but have taken
eine Pause bc I wonder, what will I do with when I can speak it? It's also expensive.
No. 48494
>>48473There are a wide variety of options but it's really important that I first begin building connections.
I'm going to be obtaining TEFL/TESOL certification over Summer and I graduate in 2018.
I'm aiming to be able to get out into Japan for the 2020 Tokyo Olympics which is an incredibly well timed opportunity for me career-wise.
Initially, yeah, it will likely be a case of me being one of those pleb ALT teachers, but everybody has to trudge through that kind of stuff in the beginning - but as it happens, I fucking LOVE teaching. In the meantime I can consider things like translation and interpretation, which I can carry out in pretty much any country in the world, even over the internet… international relations coordination would be pretty cool too. I might even end up doing a PHD, I'm not sure.
Long-term I want to be a scholar on the history of East Asian history with a specific focus on Japan and China and the linguistic evolution of the Japanese evolution and Chinese influences on it.
Fuuuuuck I want to publish books and submit articles and become a guest speaker and teach at universities and shit.
In the meantime my fiancé will be able to float me for a while since he's graduating this upcoming June and he's already getting job offers flying in and slapping him repeatedly across the face (he's in Forestry & Conservation with speciality in silviculture/GIS and we live in an area of England that has the most trees/areas of outstanding natural beauty kek).
Also because Japan is fucking overloaded with trees and is super into its forestry and conservation we may even end up emigrating.
>bc I wonder, what will I do with when I can speak it?tbh German is cool but I don't think it's the most feasible of languages to study right now considering European trade is in decline and China and Japan's is on the up, with Japan itself currently holding 3rd place in the world's largest economies, and it's only increasing.
First and foremost it's most important that you chose a subject you love though.
If you really love your subject you'll find a way to make it work eventually, even if it's just a case of living and working within Germany.
Preservation of a language is also exceedingly important. Have you ever considered teaching? I mean I know European trade isn't what it once was, but in the EU isn't Germany still the big daddy?
No. 86972
Can anybody who has a more extensive experience with the language advise me on how to make my speaking sound more natural?
I know I still have the gaijin accent and it's one of the things I want to reduce, but I'm unsure as to which parts I'm enunciating incorrectly.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0gbvGswg75sWhat am I doing wrong, apart from the stuttering and pausing which I guess is to be expected at my level.
No. 86975
>>86974Ah thanks. I'm sometimes confused about the ~す because I think I read that within and Tōkyō these are less stressed, but it differs from region to region?
I also really struggle with words like つけて. I just can't get them to flow. Precise pronunciation of つ is quite difficult for me, (and ふ which sounds more like somebody exhaling), but I'm putting this down to my natural accent being rigid English.
Thank you very much Anon, I'll start paying more attention to my す's.
No. 86992
>>48473As a general rule for languages, just learn it for the sake of it/because you like it, don't expect all that much practical use from it unless you're moving there. Learning languages spoken in Europe is especially useless considering most Europeans are bilinguals, if not, trilinguals. They'll beat you out for translation jobs every time.
>>48494It's very cute that you think Japanese is that relevant. You really do come across as a weeb that took it a little too far.
No. 87004
>>86992
>you really do come across as a weeb that took it a little too farI think it's sad that you automatically try to denigrate others on account them pursuing an area they clearly enjoy.
It's pretty reflective of how you feel about your own career.
Maybe try going in search of discipline you actually enjoy and you won't feel the need to reach out and debase others on account of their own choices.
No. 87723
>>86992Not the Anon you were responding to, but that's the only reason I'm learning Japanese. When I was a kind my parents had a strict rule about speaking only french in the home and that I could learn English at school or around our other family members. It kinda made me wary when learning other languages but when I was a teenager I was really into anime so I started teaching myself Japanese until I got a proper tutor.
Now I'm learning German so I can actually have a conversation with my boyfriend's family without him having to translate. Skype calls are getting better.
tl;dr it's better to learn a language because you want to.
No. 93239
>>93228lol Anon I'm a first year not a retard.
I meant for when there are both living AND inanimate subjects in a single sentence.
No. 93254
>>93239I thought of you anon and I asked my Japanese teacher about it and basically separating them is the best cause but usually you go for the closest noun to the verb.
レストランで人とテーブルがあります。
レストランでテーブルと人がいます。
あります can also be used for people you're close with, like long time friends and family. Like with everything there's exceptions.
No. 96507
>>96448i like フィカー too anon.
this isnt too bad and i dont see any glaring errors.
No. 96508
>>96448maybe say
フィカーは午後のコーヒとサンドイッチ
ということです
i added
> ということbecause you are trying to explain what is fikka
No. 96516
>>48354I'm not really serious about it. just for shits n giggles.
>>48322 here, and i've
finally got the PDFs of Genki 1 & 2 plus the workbooks and some other japanese and korean textbooks if anyone wants a link.
No. 96559
>>96448>食べ物はまずいし、高いし、そして汚いです。食べ物はまずいし、高いし、そして店内は汚いです。
I assumed you meant the stores are dirty? It's not really clear from your sentence.
>かなりエレガントと思います。かなりエレガントだと思います。
なadjectives require a form of である
Well done anon!
No. 96586
>>43891>When I get put on the spot and expected to respond/reply in Japanese I freak out and in that instant forget almost everything I've learned to date.You're literally me. It's so fucking bad, I don't know what to do about it. My fear of making mistakes means my written work is fine (always did well in tests, etc) but it makes me too scared to talk. I also think I concentrate too hard on picking the right words, to the extent that I forget simple grammar (like putting things in past tense etc). I'm trying to work on it by translating things in my head as I think them as fast as possible, but I won't know if it helps til I try with real people.
I've been talking to a Japanese guy over email, we work in the same office but never run into each other so I haven't had to speak to him in Japanese yet… but he keeps saying he wants to talk and introduce me to higher ups and it's too nerve wracking. I'm shy and not particularly eloquent even when I speak in english, it's gonna be so embarrassing. It's funny though, his english isn't great and I've never once thought it was embarrassing, I just can't stand the thought of myself screwing up even in minor ways.
No. 96665
>>96586I might've misunderstood, but try to not translate in your head while speaking. It takes too long and the languages are too different for it to result in good Japanese.
Talk to that one guy, it's normal to be less eloquent in speech than in text, and gain some confidence. :) Japanese people are somehow convinced that their language is super hard, so even if your Japanese is not perfect they'll be gushing.
No. 120416
Any tips for actual conversational Japanese other than 'study more'? I feel like nothing can prepare me for how much conversational Japanese just omits everything that you learn.
I felt so close to quitting forever last week, I've been learning lots of new grammar and adjectives in preparation for a a japanese speaking event that was filled with natives and fluent speakers so I was feeling excited… And it couldn't have gone worse. Everyone was speaking so fast that I was only able to pick out single words from sentences and I couldn't have the time to formulate responses, I was asking for help and making humour about it for the first hour but after that I just sat in silence like a weirdo as people talked over my head and my hands shook. This is meant to be a hobby, I'm never going to a event like that again.
>>96586One on one conversation isn't so bad, you can ask them to speak slowly and repeat themselves and most people are happy to cater to someone's abilities if it means you can both communicate better.
>>100523Hiragana was a breeze but with Katakana I still struggle with ノ,ソ,ツ and シ even after years.
Kanji will come in peaks and troughs, never at a steady pace.
No. 120417
>>120416>conversational Japanese>"Study more"That's actually really bad advice. The one thing you should do is talk with natives. Try to find discussion partners on penpal sites, search for someone who'd like to use skype to discuss out loud. It's true one on one conversation is easier since you can stop people, but it'll ease you into it and you just have to make sure they don't keep on going easy on you all the time, hopefully with some time you won't need them to speak as slowly etc.
Just listening to conversations is good practice for listening as well. Watch drama, anime, youtube videos, whatever as long as native speakers are talking with each other. If you try listening to radio shows, tv games etc (stuff that are not scripted entirely), it'll be more difficult but also better practice. I think one reason conversation is my strong point is that after getting obsessed with a voice actor, I listened to every radio shows he co-hosted (there were like 300 episodes already out on niconico).
In any case filling your head with grammar, vocabulary… is not a good approach imho. Practice your listening to be better able to recognize what each word in a sentence is even if the person speaks very fast, and I think when you practice listening you just get better in general.
Hope I don't sound rude. And this is just my opinion and my advice so maybe what worked for me won't for you, but if you haven't tried listening to radios etc I really recommend it! And maybe take notes etc, you won't be able to get corrections but it's nice to look back at when your level gets better and you listen again and find out stuff you hadn't noted, or realize mistakes you made… And penpals are nice too, or even just Japanese people to hang out with but if you're doing this as a hobby I don't know if you have occasions to meet them.
It's a shame about the event that didn't go well. How big was it? Were you really the only one who wasn't as fluent? It's kind of a blunder on the part of the organizers if they didn't think at all about how to make it welcoming for all levels.
No. 120494
>>120396I got N1 5 years ago. With each of the levels I took (N5, N2, N1) I felt as if I had failed afterwards, but I always passed by a few points. Crossing my fingers for you. :)
>>120417This. Just search for a drama you like or whatever and watch it, if possible without English subtitles. Even just listening to Japanese will make it easier for you to distinguish the words and get a feeling for the language.
Maybe look at the event like this: you found out what you can't do (have conversations at full speed) and now you can work on it.
No. 179514
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I want to try the JLPT but I've been told there was a session in July and one in December by a lot of people and websites. They forgot to add that it depends on countries and now I have to wait another year to try to pass it. I'm so salty. I'm studying in uni but I feel like I don't have a lot of vocabulary and kanji memorized and I'm not used to listening and speaking, so I have no idea if I should try for N3 or N2 next December. I'll try to learn more kanji with kanji and kana (pic related) once I have enough free time, I don't know if the book is that good at listing kanji and words though.
By the way, I feel like watching anime to get used to listening to conversations really sucks. The characters don't sound natural at all and speak too fast for me most of the time, and I have no idea if it's the same for dramas. I've been told to watch tv shows with celebrities speaking and things like that, apparently they're often subtitled for the Japanese audience. Does anyone do that sometimes? Does it work?
No. 179543
>>179514Too bad Anon, but at least you'll have more time to prepare. It's super annoying that they do this, I can understand in very small countries I guess but it can't be that fucking hard to organize those tests.
>I feel like I don't have a lot of vocabulary and kanji memorizedIf you're not already, try using Anki and downloading JLPT decks, it's a great way to study kanji and vocab. Or get books, or just do tests on the internet, there are tons of resources. Since you're already studying with your book you'll find a lot you already know and some extra just to be safe.
>I'm not used to listening and speakingFor some reason listening seems to be what people do worst on in JLPT. I guess it's lack of practice. So at least I'm pretty sure most people are in the same boat as you. In my case I got most of the points on listening after securing passing grades in the other parts, but it's completely fine if you try to do the other way. Bear in mind that if you get less than a certain score on listening you'll fail the whole thing, though.
>The characters don't sound natural at all and speak too fast for me most of the timeYeah they're not very natural most of the time because, well, it's anime. But usually they're not speaking too fast (unless you're watching Tatami Galaxy and Teekyuu lol) and they're very intelligible, so if that's too hard for you I think you should keep practicing listening with anime. Dramas are more or less the same imho. Maybe try stuff that keeps itself simple like Pretty cure and other kid stuff for a start?
TV shows are definitely the best way to get a real experience apart from actually conversing with a native. You can also try radios but you won't get Japanese subtitles most of the time. I don't really watch TV shows but I did listen to radios a lot for a while. I know a guy who watches Japanese reality TVs on Netflix or something too.
For me, being very persistent and listening again and again and again to sentences I didn't understand, trying to section words and looking up those words until I somewhat understood what the sentence meant, was the key to improving my listening skills. Also actually having conversations with natives helps but you don't always get such occasions.
No. 179795
>>179635Thanks for this Anon! I've started and it's really cool.
I'm a bit awkward talking to people on apps like these but people are really nice so it's no problem.
No. 238381
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Sorry for necroing this thread, but i really need advice.
Ever since i was a teen i dreamed of studying in Japan.
Despite being in my 3rd year of university already, i just joined the japanese club half a year ago.
Because i'm lazy (and depressed) as hell i only started studying earnestly around 3 weeks ago.
So far i only know hiragana, around 5 kanji and some basic words and phrases.
On the 1st of july is the JLPT N5. Our teacher told us, that having this certificate while applying for a semester abroad would be helpful.
Has anybody taken the test?
Please be honest with me, do i still have a chance to learn everything within 3 months or should i give up?
I'm worried that i'll put time, effort (and a lot of money!) in it and then fail in the end. Worst case would be failing and getting bad results in my normal univeristy exams, which are also in july, if i concentrate too much on studying japanese, instead of working towards my degree.
Giving up on my dream and trying to learn how to no longer be a weeb would probably be the healthiest option anyways.
No. 238392
>>2383813 months if you're busy is not realistic. N5 is easy af, but still around 120 kanji and you need to be able to read at a somewhat okay speed. Aren't these twice a year? Why not aim for the winter one?
If you want it for your semester abroad: How many spots are there for the programme? Is it competitive? Just give it a shot, I mean your semester abroad is going to be for an English course anyways so whatever.
Honestly, here's what I'd do: Study as much as I can while not impacting my other studies, take N5 in summer and keep studying, take N5 again in winter if I failed the summer one.
No. 238490
>>238392I think it's only once a year…? And if i do i next year then i'll have to graduate later.
They only told us for reference as an extreme example that our University can only send 1 person per year to Australia, no idea about Japan.
The thing is, that the test is not cheap and i have to book a hotel room, since it's far away, so it would cost me quite some money.
>>238422A lot of people have told me that N5 is easy, but for me it simply isn't…
One of my friends also said i shoud just apply with uot taking the test, but they said that having N5 shows that you at least can read and understand a little but, so they like seeing that in your application.
Nearly everybody else in my course is obsessed with anime, so they already knew some stuff beforehand, but i simply don't like it.
No. 238523
>>238392120 kanji in 3 months is a breeze, it's like 5 a day for 24 days.
>>238490>I think it's only once a year…? Sessions can be in July or December or both depending on the places. For example a lot of Frenchies go to Belgium or England to pass it in July if they fail the Paris December one.
>Nearly everybody else in my course is obsessed with anime, so they already knew some stuff beforehand, but i simply don't like it.Well just start studying now, you don't have to like anime to learn Japanese.
3 months is a long way, I mostly crammed for my N2 in the 2 months before the exam and got it. You just need to be diligent about it.
N5 is piss easy too so it shouldn't be that much work. I don't know how useful it'll be, because even if your teachers say it'll be helpful it's still incredibly easy and you can have it and not be able to understand a simple conversion, but in any case I'd say you have your chances.
>Giving up on my dream and trying to learn how to no longer be a weeb would probably be the healthiest option anyways.Calm down with the self-deprecation. Studying abroad is really fun and it's quite cool in Japan too. But even if you can't get the opportunity to study in Japan you'll always be able to visit one day or another which is great as well, and when the time comes having learnt some Japanese should prove useful.
No. 238541
>>238523Can i ask for how long you studied each day or how you remembered the kanji?
I just can't get myself motivated enough and i'm really scared of it taking too much time away from my normal exam studying… If i halfass and fail the exam, it would mean that i've wasted so much time for nothing.
No. 238588
>>238541Well N5 kanji are quite easy so I don't think I was ever stuck on one of them very long, usually if you spend around 3 minutes rewriting it constantly and then quizz yourself 10 minutes after doing all of your kanji of the day you should be fine. In 3 months you can do 5 new kanji a day every other day, but you should quizz yourself at least 5 minutes every day. You can use Anki to make flashcards, or use the Study Kanji app (I think N5 kanji are free access, in any case it's a great app).
Although you have to take into account studying vocab and grammar as well but it really should be hard… Though I never passed N5, I only did N2 and got it so I've never been in your situation, but I can't see how N5 could give anyone issue if you have 3 months to prepare. Kanji is stuff you can study during your commutes or while taking a shit.
Just go at it with a positive mindset though or you'll really fail.
No. 238589
>>238588Meant "it really shouldn't be hard"
woops
No. 238806
>>238381can you explain how having an N5 certificate (which is the equivalent of an A1 CEFR) can help you in trying to study abroad?
like not to be rude but in most countries people would be laughed out if they tried getting in with such a low level cert.
No. 238824
>>238806You're not exactly encouraging there anon…
I already said that this is simply what my teacher told me, no idea why.
But today i already told her that i'm not gonna take the test anyways, so it doesn't matter anymore.