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No. 139942

I can see we have numerous thin girl threads, fit girl threads, Instagram girl threads etc., but I've yet to see a thread gauged around eating disorders and ED support in general.

This can range from:

Anorexia nervosa
Bulimia nervosa
Binge-eating disorder
Purging disorder
Night eating syndrome
Orthorexia
Pica disorder
EDNOS etc.

I'm also always seeing comments like "gb2 MPA" tossed around, but I know I'm not the only one with an active account.

Use this thread to discuss, debate, vent etc., but just as a note this isn't intended as a thread to post thinspo or otherwise, please do that in the thinspo thread here >>>/g/3980

No. 139943

Does anybody else feel caught within a psychological tug-of-war between attempting to eat and work-out to a healthy degree whilst fighting off the urge to outright restrict and over-exercise?

No. 139944

>>139943
Unfortunately. But it's more about restricting for me.

No. 139945

>>139943
This is pretty much my life.

I lost over 70lbs in 9 months just by heavy restriction. I want to lose those last 15lbs in a healthier way so I can have some muscle definition and a healthier body, and while sometimes I will have a good week where I eat balanced meals, and do my scheduled workouts, I just feel it's 'not good enough' and go right back to restriction.

No. 139946

>>139945

Oh Anon, I lost the same amount of weight.
Do you also have loose skin below your stomach? I'm forever beating myself up for letting myself become that way, from anorexic to obese to normal… I'll never have a smooth stomach again. Why depression.

No. 139947

>>139946
When I don't work out, I have a pooch but it's not too bad. The only thing I hate is my childbearing hips that stick out WHILE I have the pooch. It makes me look like some weird alien creature.

The worst part is the insides of my thighs have a lot of extra skin. Not looking forward to summer at all…

No. 139948

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I haven't binged in a little over 2 weeks, though my previous record last year was 2 months. I'm so desperate to recover, but have little support from anyone and feel like I'll inevitably fuck this streak up too.

I'm actually a "recovering" alcoholic as well, but fucked up my 6 month sobriety last week because I would rather mess that up and ruin my liver than binge and be fat again.

No. 139949

>>139942
OT but what manga is this from

No. 139950

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>>139949

In the Clothes Called Fat.

No. 139951

>>139950
my best friend showed me this manga when we were in high school years ago, it's fucking haunting.
I don't even read much manga nowadays, but I'll always remember/recommend this title.

No. 139952

>>139950
Thanks.

Are there any other mangas similar to this? I really enjoy it.

No. 139953

>>139950
This picture makes me feel really disgusting

No. 139954

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I have EDNOS with cycling restricting and binging. Im 5'2, lowest weight was 90 pounds a year ago, I'm currently 120. A stressful year led to regular binging and a 30 pound weight gain. I recently found out that I'm 6 weeks pregnant and the bloating has put me back in restriction mode. Im scared of harming my baby but i struggle to eat more than 800 calories a day without a total meltdown. I try to eat some protein and fat but i feel like a whale… i guess my mentality is that if im pregnant, i at least want to be skinny so i wont look like a slobby pregnant lady who eats ice cream and pickles all day. Can anyone relate? Do you think losing 20 pounds will really hurt?

No. 139955

>>139954
If you really are pregnant yoh should eat far far more than 800 calories, otherwise you're going to have a retard on your hands in 8 months

No. 139956

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I lived a part of my childhood with my mother and grandmother and they were quite poor.Most of the time I would starve,I didn't go to kindergarten and I spent my time at home,I remember only thinking about food or having delusions in which someone would buy me a supermarket,or I would live in a supermarket and eat all the sweets.Everytime I had food,I would eat it all out of instinct,I would eat it like I was never going to eat again.
When I was 8,I had to move with my dad,paternal grandparents and aunt.They were much more wealthier and always had food so I would eat all the time.At one point,when I was around 11 years old I got a little bit chubby and everyone kept telling me so.And that's how it all started,I began restricting,but after 1 or 2 weeks I would start to binge again.When I was 16 I started purging.I'm 19 now,I am chubby at the moment and my life is a trainwreck,I am obsessed with food,everything I think about is food.I tried getting help,I really did try,but in my country a lot of mental ilnesses aren't taken seriously.The medical system is shit here,eating disorders aren't ever taken in a serious manner by psychologists/psychiatrists,they are only considered ,,adolescence phases".To be honest I want everything to be alright,but I feel like it will never be and I only keep lying to myself.
Sorry for this,I know my grammar and syntax are shit,but I felt like taking something off my chest.

No. 139957

>>139954
Abort the baby.
You aren't ready and you owe it to yourself and the future of your kids to not subject them to a life where you can't provide your best.

No. 139958

>friends/family know about binging and purging and even donate food to my binge stash and laugh when I puke in public
>every once in a while I get a lecture about how I'm ruining my health and I need to get serious help
>told everyone I'm going to stop and haven't binged in 8 days which is my longest record in a long time
>friend kept trying to get me to binge yesterday so she could eat with me (she eats way less and doesn't purge)
>family still giving me shit they don't want for binge stash because "you're going to binge anyways"
Please tell me someone else has to deal with this too because it's horrible and I don't think I'm going to be able to hold out much longer.

No. 139959

>>139958
Sorry you're going through that anon, that is really insensitive of them. The best thing I can say to that though is if you keep fighting and prove them wrong then you will have so much more satisfaction than if you go back to binging. Remember moderation is key, give yourself extra little snacks when you need them and then walk away. You can do it!!!

No. 139960

>>139957
I agree with this.

You're barely taking care of yourself. How are you going to look after another person who is 100% dependent on you 24/7?

Not to mention, if you have the kid, they'll probably end up picking up cues and shit from your ED and that'll really fuck them up. That is, if they aren't fucked up from their mother restricting for 9 months.

No. 139961

>>139942
Anyone else developed rumination syndrome because of bulimia? I started purging 5 years ago and in the beginning it took quite a toll on my body but over the years I found that I could effortlessly throw up food whenever I ate after a certain amount. I always thought it was conscious since I had an ED but ever since I've (almost) stopped purging I still keep subconsciously regurgitating food whenever I eat normally. It sucks since it ruins my teeth. Whenever I get the urge to throw up and actually WANT to I start gesturing or pacing back and forth and it usually does it for me. Just wondering if anyone has dealt with it since for me it was a direct cause of purging, it makes me feel like a fat cow. Sorry for shit English.

No. 139962

>>139961
When I was in a clinic I met multiple girls who had developed that so it seems pretty common but I think it will fade in a decent amount of time if you avoid forcibly purging.

No. 139963

I'm more upset about how fucked my body looks thin than losing my teeth or the daily chest pains and blacking out.
I'm bony AND fat. Its fucked. My tits are disgusting saggy tubes of tragedy, my thighs jiggle no matter how much I work out and I'm weak as shit from the atrophy. I'm so scared of getting bulky muscles or having any part of my body be round.

Ughhhhhn my body just gets worse no matter what I do its so unfair.

No. 139964

>>139963
Probably because you're doing everything wrong.

It's physically impossible to get bulky muscles without (a) male hormone injections or (b) eating 7 times a day

No. 139965

>>139964
I agree with this. I used to be a gymnast and dancer for 15+ years and I never 'bulked up' even when I went everyday. What I had to be careful of is exercising the right muscles - my core was and still is pretty weak, same with my shoulders. I already have a lot of thigh and butt muscle so I don't really do weights with them nearly as much, mostly light cardio. Had a few health scares recently and I have to go easy, but even doing walking and some core strengthening exercises has helped a lot. It's also actually helped me recover from surgery faster.

I think the other anon owes it to themselves to try a light workout regime that targets problem areas, and do that for 90 days at least to see some results. You don't have to work out everyday necessarily but 3 times a week. If you hate how you look you can just stop.

No. 139966

>>139961
Are you holding your stomach muscles in after eating? If I eat anything other than a small snack and want to keep it down I have to consciously relax them for a while.

No. 139967

>>139964
I know this, but it doesn't stop the fear.
Everything about this disorder is irrational.

coming in here and pointing out the flaws in people's thinking when this thread is about disordered thinking, is like mentioning the fart in the elevator. We all know its there, but you're the only one who just has to point it out like a douche.

No. 139968

>>139965
I'm doing strength workouts 3-5 days a week. Its a ridiculous way to think, about the bulkiness and all, but its there nonetheless.

No. 139969

>>139967
We're telling you to take physical steps to aid in mental recovery. Sitting around doing nothing but obsessing isn't going to help - if you're anxious or worried, like most manifestations of ED are (but not all). Before I went on meds and got therapy I also had an ED and dropped 83 lbs but my doctor was smart. He saw it and went after my depression/anxiety, not the manifestation of it.

Working out, doing things physically has a double benefit. One you're doing something and it's harder to obsess over thoughts while trying to focus on using the right muscles for an exercise. Secondly, doing a work out of any kind gets you back in touch with your body, what it's really built to do and what it can do.

No one can change your mentality, only you can do that. I still have to deliberately and actively counteract my negative thoughts, which occur randomly from a wide range of negative feelings. I can't stop them. I can control how I respond to them - with deliberate positivity. It took 3 years for the 'faking it' to turn into reality and I still have weak moments. It doesn't matter how many times you fail, most people would in that situation. It takes a lot of learning and patience with yourself to get through it.

No. 139970

>>139969
I'm doing strength workouts and eating as normally as I can. I understand your intentions, and to an extent all your assumptions, but my post was really just a rant because I can do it anonymously here.

No. 139971

>>139970
That's fine, but you did post it to somewhere people can answer and give advice. As someone who has been there, I get your struggle. Remind yourself of whatever things drove you to start this process when things get hard – for me it was my pet. I never had one growing up and when I got my own, I was smitten to the point of changing my whole life for him. I understand you're frustrated, and scared of your own thoughts. It can feel like you brain is trying to sabotage you at every turn, and feel free to vent away. I just want you to know I've been there and I understand how hard it can be, and if venting helps you to keep it up, then go for it.

No. 139972

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I'm pretty sure my ED has been bothering me since I was quite young, I always had a pretty negative body image but I didn't start starving until I was 15.

My mum has always been rail-thin (5'1, under 7st), and my cousin who I idolized was taller but just as thin. They were the two big female role models in my life, and at age 14 I was 136lbs at 5'1, so everything hit me quite suddenly when the thoughts of how fat I was really dawned on me. I got down to 112 through starving and restricting when I was 15/16, and I never really got much under that because I'd always end up in situations where I had to eat, and I couldn't be about that puking life because I'm not physically able to make myself puke if I'm not sick.

Fast forward to now, I'm 21 and this is still a pretty big problem for me. It comes and goes. I put weight on and then lose it very quickly and unhealthily by eating fewer than 500 cals a day while exercising. I'm fucking petrified of weighing myself, I'm so scared that I judge everything by measurements and clothes fitting. I know that I'm currently a few pounds heavier than I was before Christmas and I want to just starve it all off. The whole thing is inconsistent, too. I'll eat normally for a few weeks, and then I usually realise that I've put on a little weight, then I freak out and starve for a few weeks, rinse and repeat. I know that the yo-yo style of it is taking a toll on my health at this stage, too. At least I've never been at a particularly unhealthy weight, I guess?

The most infuriating part is that I went for help when I was 15, when I knew what I was starting to do, when I knew that something wasn't right with me. I was ignored because I was "a fine healthy size". One person I appealed to just told me to "lose weight more healthily", and even my own mother laughed in my face when I tried to get help. For a few years afterwards, any time I'd make a sandwich or get a snack, she'd make remarks like "oh that eating disorder must be killing you", which of course made me worse.

I feel myself slipping into a starving period at the minute, and I sort of want to let it happen.

Sorry that this is just a wall of text, I really needed to get get it out of my system.

No. 139973

This thread is hilarious, why the fuck don't you women know anything about proper dieting or exercise

No. 139974

>>139973
There's a reason it's a disorder; they know it's the completely wrong thing to do but they feel compelled to do it anyway usually due to other strong mental factors (like anxiety, depression, ocd, whatever). I've been just eating healthy and exercising for several years now and it's been one of my best decisions yet, but back when I was a messed up teenager in the throes of that disorder really no logical statements like "but you could just commit to consistent exercise and healthy eating" did anything for me, and the same things don't work on other mentally ill people like addicts either unless they are really ready for the change.

No. 139975

>>139974
>>139973

That's as stupid as saying "why don't you just cheer up, look on the bright side" to someone with depression. It's not logical and the anxiety around food whether it's over or under eating is very common and it's only getting more common. I'll always have a weird relationship with food because I'm always struggling with depression and anxiety.

No. 139976

>>139948
anon dont give up!!

i also stopped binging almost 2 weeks ago. i thought after the first few days, it would be easier but its still really hard…
it's like i want to do it, but i don't want to.

No. 139977

>>139948
anon dont give up!!

i also stopped binging almost 2 weeks ago. i thought after the first few days, it would be easier but its still really hard…
it's like i want to do it, but i don't want to.

No. 139978

>>139973
Most of the time when people develop eating disorders at a young age their diet is controlled or influenced by whatever the parents make.

No. 139979

I don't know why but I always have a binge once a month, it doesn't really does any damage to my weight because I eat very well and exercise regulary.
I wish I could stop, but I have really no idea why I do that. My eating is not disordered usually.
I just binged btw it was nasty, I ate a whole pizza, a bag of chips, 4 chocolate yogurt, a ton of cofee, even coconut oil straight outta the jar and a lot of other stuff…
What is wrong with me.
I feel gross.

No. 139980

>>139977
Thank you! As of today, it's been 3 weeks and 1 day. The urge to binge is definitely still there and I've almost slipped once or twice, but I've managed to hold on so far.

I hope you manage to stay binge-free as well. Good luck!

No. 139981

I have a question, maybe some of you know the answer. It's really embarassing.
I used to be bulimic for 7 years and stopped four years ago (26 years old now). For some years I've had those weird burping problems. I have absolutely no control over it.
Could this be related to the ED?

No. 139982

So if you're anorexic, is there a way to induce the 'want' to eat? 'cause I'm honestly trying to be healthy and actually eat, but I feel like there's a mental barrier I can't seem to cross. Like I'll make food and start eating it but suddenly I just can't put any more food into my mouth without feeling like I might vomit or the texture starts to #trigger me.

But I really fucking want to eat it's just like my brain won't let me and I'm not sure how to make it stop. I don't think I have felt my stomach be 'full' for real in years.


>>139981
I think so, a friend of mine who had an ED still ALWAYS burps like, a noticeable amount after eating pretty much any meal. Idk if it's the same, she also had bulimia.

No. 139983

yesterday was a great day for me, walked 7,500 steps and had only 372 calories

No. 139984

Years of restriction, fasting and general starvation have left me with severely irregular bowel movements, even after recovery.
I only poop like once every 4-5 days and need to abuse laxatives and caffeine in an attempt to remain regular.
I hate this, I want to take a shit everyday like normal people. Do you guys have any idea how uncomfortable it is walking around on a hot day with 5 days worth of shit steaming away in your bowels? Fuck.

No. 139985

>>139983
well arent you special

No. 139986

>>139985

Are you missing the purpose of this thread or something? She's sharing her shit nigger.

No. 139987

>>139984
yes i hear you.
i used to binge on fiber one bars and im pretty sure thats as good as laxative abuse in terms of fucking up my regularity.
im a healthier weight now and TRYING to be comfortable with it but its really fucking hard when i feel so bloated and heavy

No. 139988

>>139981
burping happened when you swallow too much air. maybe eat more slowly, chew more, or eat very mind fully

No. 139989

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Everything is slowly shrinking, awesome.

But the one thing that is quickly shrinking is my ass; the only part of my body I liked big & round. Thinking about doing squats but anorexic paranoia is worried about the muscle weight gain. It's fucking stupid but it's the thing stopping me. If I do insane squats to get my huge butt back, will I also get gross big thighs. I'm ok with having toned legs, but if I want the ass I have in mind, I feel like my legs would grow with it.

Does this make sense? Ahh…

No. 139990

Legit question: why don't you all go (back) to MPA? Especially if you want to brag about your low intakes etc. Aren't there many ED support forums/blogs etc.?

/inb4 "u must b fat"

No. 139991

>>139990

Well for starters you're implying that we're all people who have somehow discovered lolcow and migrated here from sites like MPA.

I made the thread and I've been using 4chan since 2006 and /cgl/ since 2008. I didn't join MPA for my disordered eating until 2014 and I suspect most of the people posting in this thread are also from /cgl/.

So, given this where exactly are we all supposed to go back to?
Grow up and learn that people don't browse one site exclusively. Maybe you should go back to cuckchan.

No. 139992

>>139991
…so you do have an MPA. If you did make this thread you also put "I'm also seeing comments like 'gb2 MPA' tossed around, but I know I'm not the only one with an active account".

So this thread is for MPA users. Hence >>139990 has a point, why don't you post there where there's a huge community of other sufferers who have a wider range of stories and experiences?

No. 139993

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>>139992

No nigger I was using MPA as an example since it's currently the largest ED support forum out there.

In case you haven't noticed yet the majority of threads created here could easily have been posted to sites like Leddit or Voat or Dumblr, but people post here specifically because we're a community that have heralded from a very specific corner of the internet and we want to read and discuss the shared experiences and opinions with individuals specialised in the same subjects.

Hey here's an idea though, why doesn't Admin just delete the entire fucking site and we all move back to 4chan or migrate to PULL! Or better yet, go find a rope in your garage and delete yourself!

No. 139994

>>139993
You sound really angry. Have you had your breakfast? It's the most important meal of the day ana-chan.

No. 139995

>>139994

I had a banana and some yoghurt coated strawberry pieces and you better watch ur mowf son or I'll eat you next.

No. 139996

>>139990
>>139992

This is a stupid argument that doesn't make any sense.
If you're so anal about specific topics being made only on specific forums than why have any threads on lolcow at all? Why have an art thread here when we can make on on DA? Why have a fetish thread when you can make one on Fetlife? Why have a fat hate thread when you can make one on Reddit? Why have a e-celebrity thread when you can make one on PULL?

It's an image board meaning that all subjects are able to be discussed freely, even the ones you don't like.

No. 139997

Anyone else have days where they genuinely feel twice as fat as the day before?

No. 139998

>>139997
Yeah
Sometimes I think I look pretty good and then the next day I think I look like a disgusting pig

No. 139999

>>139997
Yes, that's me every time I eat over my calorie limit. Like right now. And I know I'm going to be up like 2lbs at the minimum when I wake up tomorrow. I am disgusted.

No. 140000

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OK, advice time

Pic related are my legs. I'm self conscious about them because they're the thickest part of my body and I don't have thin ankles so they're not very shapely. In your opinions should I keep losing weight to try and slim them down?

No. 140001

>>140000
no you have skinny legs

No. 140002

>>140000
Don't lose weight, If you're worried they're too bulky you can just do a lot of leg stretching to loosen your muscles.

No. 140003

>>140000
Your legs are really skinny and aren't thick at all. If you're worried about not being shapely or having any definition, maybe do some leg exercises to build some muscle.

No. 140004

>>140000

No, your legs are so skinny, please don't lose more weight.

No. 140005

This is kind of off-topic, but I figured I would ask here and see if anyone knows, but is it possible to get into legal trouble from using a website like MPA? Like if I were in the mental health profession and someone somehow found out I had an account could I lose my job or anything like that? Even if I never posted pro-ana tips or chatted with anyone?

I was thinking of making an account there but I won't if it's going to affect my future. I'm paranoid about signing up for community-like things online even if it's a positive community because I believe people will use something I posted against me.

Anyways, I would appreciate it if someone could give me some insight into things like this and how it can or can't be used against you.

No. 140006

>>140005

MPA isn't actually a pro-anorexia/eating disorder forum, it's primarily a support community and it's name is pretty much just a remnant from the mid-2000's.
It's actually pretty useful because it allows people who are potentially searching for a harmful site to arrive there and receive actual support instead.

>is it possible to get into legal trouble from using a website like MPA


Support communities are not illegal so no.
How did you ever come to the conclusion that a support community for mental illness could be illegal to run or access? And how would your place of employment even find out about you having an account there?

No. 140007

>>140006
Well I assumed that for example if a member that suffered a death or suicide and they didn't delete their browser history/chat logs etc it could be traced back to MPA and either the website or individual users that encouraged the unhealthy behaviour could be held responsible.

And I know it's not a pro-ana site which is why I said "would I get in trouble even if I never posted pro-ana tips etc" .
That's not what I would be using it for anyways. I just want a place to talk about my issues and get some support or at least relate to people. I'm kind of a shut-in and recluse so I'm hoping reaching out to people that share the similar struggles would help me some bit idk.

And I don't know how they would necessarily find out it was me, but I just have irrational paranoid thoughts that they could if they wanted to and would try in the future. I obviously wouldn't post photo's or real info, but could they track me down by my IP or email address? Sorry if I'm not making sense. Thanks for you help though, I appreciate it.

No. 140008

>>140005
Not illegal as far as I know but depending on where you live and certainly if you live in the US it could jeopardize your career. Employers can fire you for any reason they want and proana postings in your personal life are definitely grounds to do so.

But on the other hand the chances of an employer finding that out is miniscule. As long as you don't use real life details you'll likely be fine.

No. 140009

>>140008
Thanks for the info. So I'll basically be okay if I don't post proana shit and don't give out real info. I'm still kind of weary though. I'll do some looking into my own country's laws, but I assume it's the same if not similar.

No. 140010

I had only 100 calories yesterday
It was a Caesar salad that I split in three and eat one for lunch, dinner and second dinner. (I only eat after 8 when I start getting hungry)

Not even hungry and feel great

No. 140011

>>140010

I don't think you understand the purpose of this thread.

No. 140012

>>140011
Bitch ass nigga you don't understand me life

No. 140013

Binge eating disorder, wat do? I can't get help from anyone, is there anything I can do myself?

No. 140014

>>140013
May I ask why you can't get help where you are? Or why you feel that you can get help? You may want to look into free online resources like eating disorder recovery chat rooms or chatting to someone from 7CupsofTea.

I'm sorry I can't be more helpful but I don't have BED, I'm more OSFED with mostly bulimic tendencies. I hope you can find some help that works out for you.

No. 140015

>>140014
I meant to write, "Or why you feel that you [can't] get help?" Sorry for the confusion.

No. 140016

I've had anorexia for about 2 and a half years. I've started to gain weight for the first time in months, it went up so fast it's terrifying. I had to do it because people began to notice, my dad said I looked gross and poked at my ribs it was grim (I live just me and him), and I had to tell them about my ED, and my therapist said that my weight was dangerously low and that if I didn't gain 1kg in a week she would think about sending me inpatient.
I've gained like 3kg and I only needed to gain 1, but I feel really indifferent about it. I think it's because I'm on anti-depressants that I don't really feel sad about it? I've just ran out pills too. I just can't stop eating all of a sudden, normally I'll eat something and just sit there and be sad about it but now when I eat I just need more!!

I'm just gunna go with it, I'm sure I'll feel bad later but maybe I won't, maybe it'll come back to bite me in a week or a month? I don't think I've ever tried to get better, I've never wanted to and I'm still not really keen on the idea, but it's never been an issue that was raised, and for my therapist to tell me I'm close to going inpatient and for my dad to start commenting on my weight for being too skinny? I guess I should take the wake up call

No. 140017

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I've been trying to return my intake to healthy, reasonable levels, but after years of disordered eating I'm not even sure I know how to eat normally.
I wanted to ask how this sounds for 1 day? Like, is it healthy? Is it enough? Is it too much?

1 x teaspoon of cinnamon
1 x cup of hot water with 3 slices of lemon
1 x banana
1 x regular mocha
1 x cheese & onion pastry
1 x bowl of miso soup
1 x handful of walnut halves
100g x pomegranate seeds
1 x glass of orange juice
9 x glasses of water

No. 140018

So for the past few days I've dipped into diagnosable Anorexia in terms of BMI. I am scaring myself. I've been struggling with EDs for years but I've never been without supervision this long (I'm a freshman in college) and it's definitely having an effect.
I feel so disgusted with myself when I eat, but I feel disgusted when I don't, too.
Oh, god.

No. 140019

>>140017
no
the fact you are even listing 'cinnamon and lemon slices as if they are significant food items is majorly troubling.

No. 140020

My delusions and insecurities got real in 2011. Started exercising and Lost a crazy amount of fat in summer. Since then I have been living hell, in a fucked up relationship with food. Bulimia, anorexia, binge eating. Last year a colon disease triggered my ED and lost weight, first it was unintentionally but then, I became obsessed, again. Then again, gained weight thanks to binge/purge. I have nothing left now. Started uni this year and I can't concentrate neither make friends. All I think is about food, about how my disgusting body moves and how everyone is judging my fatness right now.
I don't know. Really. I just want to reset my brain. I don't even know if this make sense, what the fuck I'm even writing. I don't believe in recover, I just want someone to feed me well, healthy,lose weight without making my anemia worse. I don't want to deal with everything by myself anymore. Don't want to wake up, open the fridge and freak out.
Don't want to take pleasure in an empty stomach, neither feel disgusted in a full stomach and the smell of acid and vomit.

No. 140021

>>140019

Yeah, well, the thing with ED's is that even if you do "recover" from them, your eating never truly goes back to normal.
I guess I felt the nutritional content was important? idk…

No. 140022

>>140017
From someone who has never had an ED and eats normally, that's a small amount for just one day. Looks like the equivalent of one meal + some snacks and drinks. You'd want to add more actual meal type foods and not just seeds, nuts and liquids.

No. 140023

>>140022

One meal and some snacks? Really?

No. 140024

>>140023
Cheese/onion pastry and a bowl of soup, with a side of walnuts and pomegranate aril mix. There's a meal.

Then a banana and a glass of orange juice, that's a snack.

Then you have a mocha, a side drink.

That's not an awful lot of food for a person's day, anon.

No. 140025

I think I've developed a binge-eating disorder about six months ago.
Part of it may have had to do with depression that picked up, another part is because my family went through a pretty serious "feast then famine" period where we had lots of food, then barely any because we had no extra money (I would live off of pasta, flour, and sugar), then lots of food again. This has happened a few times in the past but the one last year was pretty rough. When we did have food I would eat as much as I could before my siblings got to it and ate it all themselves, out of fear it would be gone, and we'd be back to having nothing but condiments in the fridge.


Sometimes I feel like if I had a bit more willpower, I can control the eating. But there are some times where I have absolutely no control as I shovel food into my mouth, and it is a terrifying feeling. I've also, a few times, would eat food that I would have never eaten unless I knew the source of ingredients, like mono- and diglycerides, or enzymes. Then after I eat it I hate myself for having gone against my morals. But the control I have is gone.

I don't know what to do. This needs to stop. Everything is going wrong with me at once, my body is falling apart (almost quite literally) and now this is just another problem on top of it all.

No. 140026

>>140017
all of the sugar will probably make you crash hard. perhaps you could substitute the banana for a pear and eat the pomegranate arils in a pita mixed with some spinach and greek cheese (for protein)? idk

No. 140027

>>140024
You'd eat all of that in one meal? Sounds like you're the disordered one here, anon… you must be huge. That's a normal amount for a day as long as you're not doing heavy exercise.

No. 140028

>>140027
….you're truly delusional.

No. 140029

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>>140027
I'm >>140022 and I say one meal because I assumed, even though that anon is trying to recover from an ED, they would still be choosing smaller portion sizes. Google shows that onion and cheese pastries are typically small, if they're only eating one.

I only grabbed a random image from google, but this is something of a balanced, healthy meal. The portion size may be regarded as on the small size by average (fat) people, but this is probably what people should aim for if they're trying to recover from an ED and learn to eat normally again.

No. 140030

>>140029
ah, and I mean something of that size or similar x3 plus some snacks and drinks would be typical.

No. 140031

I eat about 1200 calories a day, which is a very slow weight loss for me, and I'm thin but not Ana tier. I have some annoying Ana habits though, like I refuse to let any single component of a meal be more than 300 calories otherwise it's automatically a binge, any liquid calories count as a binge, and I overestimate all my calorie counts to be safe.

I also have a lot of typical 'fear foods' (cringey term but I just avoid these): bananas, avocados, peanut butter, rice, pasta, and cereal. then I have 'safe foods' like fruit, mushrooms, miso soup, marshmallow dandies, rice cakes and dessert tofu which I can overeat on and still not feel like I'm binging.

I guess it's not truly disordered tier but I wish I was one of those people who don't really think about food.

No. 140032

>>140031
Just wanted to point out, but I'm pretty sure there's no set calorie limit for what's anorexic or not. As long as you continue to lose weight and have a desire to be underweight you most likely fit the criteria for anorexia or OSFED.

Some anorexic's that are over-exercisers eat close to 1500-2000+ but burn off most of the calories that they eat so they end up losing weight.

I also wish I was someone who could just not think about food and have a normal relationship with my body and food. Food is all I really think about. Like what I'm going to eat next and when I can eat and stuff like that. I'm ashamed to say that I really love eating and enjoy almost every aspect of food and food culture.

I used to cook and bake a lot, but now it just depresses me. And I get anxious if there's something with too many calories or ingredients or steps.

Also just a question, but can someone help me figure out why I'm gaining/maintaining lately? For the past 2-3 weeks I've been eating 1200-1300 and exercising an hour everyday but Sundays. I've calculated how much my exercising burns (including subtracting around 25% off) and I burn around 500 or so calories a day. I should be losing, but I'm not.

I even gained .5 of a pound since last week. It's making me nuts.. I think I'm going to have to lower my intake to ~900 again. I would really like to increase my intake, but I just can't handle gaining or maintaining.

No. 140033

>>140032
.5 of a pound is nothing and could easily be attributed to water weight or the shit in your colon. I dunno, depending on what kind of exercise you're doing it could also be an increase in muscle mass

No. 140034

>>140033
Exactly, besides that your weight will naturally go up or down 1-2lbs a day which is why you shouldn't check obsessively or you will go insane.

No. 140035

>>140033
Thank you for the support. I guess you're right. I forget that most people think of that amount as a normal weight fluctuation.

I think of any increase in weight from week to week is a permanent weight increase. The exercise I'm doing is a treadmill on the max incline level so I don't know if it could be muscle..

No. 140036

>>140027
shoo shoo hungry skelly

No. 140037

>>140032
I totally relate to the first part of your post. Food is probably 90% of what I think about and has been for as long as I can remember. My days basically rotate around planning meals.

The weird thing is I must hide it well because nobody around me suspects anything and I'm relatively normal irl. But it's like internally I only exist for food. I really don't think there's any difference mentally between me and people on My 600lb Life.

No. 140038

>>140037
think of it like this: you eat to prolong your life, those on My 600lb Life eat to prolong their corpulence. it seems that the types that allow themselves to reach that state just give up and start shovelling in all and any food to maintain their daily caloric intake which is already in excess, regardless of its quality or the satisfaction it would provide.

it's important to consider what you put into your body somewhat. if you eat what you enjoy eating, your body will be made of such. the cells that are regenerated, the hair that is grown, all sustained on this. at least that's what i go by, i'm not ever going back to 900 calories.

No. 140039

>>140037
Hi, I'm the one you responded to. I'm almost 100% sure I have OSFED because my eating behaviours change.

Near the end of highschool I fit the criteria for BED, than I went through a restrictive phase and lost around 40-50 lbs and than had a bulimic phase and gained it all back. Now I'm back in restrictive mode and have lost around 40-ish lbs. All of these phases have lasted to a few months to a year or so. It's hell.

But basically I've never felt connected to the classic anorexic stereotype of hating food. I've always obsessed over it. Like it's almost creepy how much I love food and think about it. When I'm in my most restrictive mindset I'll start to ask people what they had to eat, what their favourite foods are, etc. I'll spend hours looking at foodporn and binge food hauls, etc.

It's disgusting what this illness does to us. I can even understand bulimics and binge eater's that steal food because I understand what it's like to -HAVE- to have it and how much the cravings eat away at you and drive you almost insane. It's torture. I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy.

I'm hoping I'll be able to take recovery seriously soon. Or at least reach out for some sort of help. I don't think I could live through another bed/bulimic phase.

Anyways, I'm so sorry you have to go through this and I wish you the best in life.

No. 140040

Hi, okay so I'm the one that's posted about the legality of MPA ( >>140005 )
and >>140039

I haven't joined MPA yet, because I'm still a bit nervous and I also wanted to know if their recovery part of the forum is good and active? Or at least what people's experiences are with the site. Thanks for all the help.

No. 140041

>>140038
I dunno. I think I have the same amount of gluttony as them. The difference is it's balanced by my vanity. Luckily my vanity wins most of the time. But yeah, I suppose it is good that I care about what I eat, people always admire how healthy I am lol.

>>140039
Thanks for the kind words and I hope you're able to get help too.

You sound just like me. I feel like there are two main ED narratives, like you said there's either the people who hate and fear food, and the people who are just OCD-like/seek control. And I don't really fit into either of those categories.

No. 140042

I'm at a weird point.

I recovered 5-6 years ago, and became truly stable (only in terms of weight) three years ago.

Now suddenly, two years out of college, stable career, pretty content with life, I've gained like 10lb in a few months.
I've been working out for a few months but I don't know…. It's not like I gained 10lbs of muscle. It can't be.
And I know I still have body dysmorphia.
I used to be skinny and still think I am fat.
Now I'm afraid that I am fat but thinking I am skinny.
Its so hard to be objective with oneself.

No. 140043

>>140042
> continued
and I dont even hate my body. I guess I'm just afraid the weight gain wont stop. Because whenever I do gain - it honestly never seems to stop…
I just have OCD with numbers I guess? I want the number on the scale to be lower, even though I KNOW muscle is denser than fat and that its possible to look good even though the scale is higher.

No. 140044

>>140043
Are you able to get some sort of therapy or counselling where you live now? You can also use the website 7CupsofTea to talk about your troubles with people who have experience with whatever ails you.

I can completely relate to the fear of gaining weight and never stopping. I used to be obese and am currently at a normal bmi and losing and I have such an intense fear of getting back to that stage or to an overweight weight it keeps me up at night.


When you notice you're slipping it's important to reach out to someone, preferably someone who has experience with eating disorder or body related issues. I'm so sorry you are having these issues. And if you've been working out most of that can actually be muscle. Especially if you were really out of weight before and are now during strength exercises.

I regularly post here so I hope to hear that things have improved for you in the future. I'm so grateful to whoever created this thread. I've never felt so "normal" before coming here.

No. 140045

>>140000

Why did this get the fatty image macro?

No. 140046

>>140045

It's not a fatty macro, it's the 32" waist-chan brand that's usually reserved for people seen to be bragging about their stats/weight, but I kind feel that one was undeserved since she was just looking for honest opinions.

No. 140047

>>140046
when you get the macro you also get banned from all boards without warning.
mods seem to be picking up banhammering /cgl/ style

No. 140048

>>140046
and I agree, the girl was just asking for opinions.
Since this is an ED support thread, I think a lot of people here really don't know that they're thin enough and hearing it from anons can help.

No. 140049

>>140048
Yeah I agree. Especially because a lot of us have some sort of body dysmorphia where we literally can see ourselves as overweight or obese or disformed, but actually be emaciated or skinny.

No. 140050

>>139997
>>139999
i ate under
and i feel disgusting wtf

No. 140051

>>140040
It's not the right place if you want to recover.

No. 140052

>>140049
>>140048
>>140047
Nah it's obnoxious. You shouldn't be bodychecking on a cosplay drama board, go to MPA for that shit

No. 140053

>>140047
I'm that self post anon and I didn't get banned.

>>140052
It wasn't body checking. I was fully expecting farmers to rip into me and call me fat actually, I posted here because I didn't think I'd get asspats (as opposed to MPA where they compliment you no matter what). I see how it comes off that way though.

sage for no1curr

No. 140054

>>140051
Do you any experience with their recover board though? I just want to know if it's actually active and has at least some good advice. Thanks for your opinion though, I appreciate it! I'm pretty sure I could handle myself from all the triggers or at least have enough control to delete my account if it gets too bad.

No. 140055

Not 100% sure if this is related to my bulimia but I have really poor circulation, feel lightheaded all the time and chug water (at least 16 glasses a day) because thirsty af. I already got tested for thyroid issues and diabeetus and was negative.

I only vomit (no laxatives) and never starve myself. I also googled high potassium foods and the first result was "Healthy high potassium foods include beans, dark leafy greens, potatoes, squash, yogurt, fish, avocados, mushrooms, and bananas. "

I ate a humongous bowl or spinach and Kale salad for lunch with roasted chickpeas. And lentils for breakfast and a banana. And I ate rainbow trout and more chickpeas and white beans for dinner. I also didn't vomit any of it up.

I also did an insanity workout this morning and sweat like crazy.

Is my potassium probably still low or do any other bulimic have this experience and what to do?

No. 140056

>>140055
vomiting uses electrolytes
too much water can deplete them
iif you have any rrelapses make sure to replenish your electrolytes by drinking a sports drink or pedialyte

No. 140057

>>140055
If you can, try to have a banana or two a day. Banana's have loads of potassium. A smoothie would probably be the best option. You can put in a frozen banana and add some electrolyte powder or juice and throw in whatever else you want as well. If you've ever had coconut water you can drink that as well.

My "after-care" purging routine is to rinse out my mouth with water, drink some water, neutralize the acid in my mouth and stomach with something like milk and re-hydrate and replenish with electrolytes.

Also, it sounds crazy, but when you're feeling dizzy or about to faint take in a big breath and hold it or put a lot of pressure in your hand by making balls with your fists. I'm currently on medication that makes me feel dizzy and faint and learning these techniques have saved me. I hope it works for you.

>>140056
This Anon is correct as well.

No. 140058

Alright girls

I have a tinder date with a guy in two months, he is perfect we get along perfectly and text al day

Thing is I don't look a bit over weight on photos so I have these two months to lose weight, I want to lose about 20 lbs but 10 would be fine too, I weight 130 lbs and sure short as I said 88lbs would be perfect but 120 would be fine too because at least then I'd be skinny but not super skinny and can look good in clothes

Any tips? I haven't eaten anything the day before yesterday and had one salad yesterday, also walked around 3 hours in both of those days

If anyone actually reads this do you know how to get rid of love handles?

No. 140059

>>140058
wrong thread my friend.

No. 140060

>>140058
you have to be 18 to post here

No. 140061

I have such an unhealthy relationship with food. I binge, then eat less and exercise the next day. Because of this, I'm not overweight but I'm not as thin as I'd like to be. It's been like this for years. I never eat proper meals with friends and family because I'm either too full from binging or I'm restricting that day. I tried going to a doctor but they didn't do much to help me, they just showed me the food pyramid and told me to eat healthy. They told me I was okay and there wasn't anything wrong with me. But clearly there must be something wrong here, right? However, the way they brushed it off made me embarrassed and I don't feel like seeing another doctor about my eating habits.
I'm so sick of this. I'm always thinking about food. At one point, I'll be craving something. And then, on intervals when I haven't eaten anything I'll be thinking "good job me, you didn't eat much today." There's just no stop to this.
I really don't know where I'm going with this.. just wanted to vent. I guess I do kind of feel better sigh I don't know (so sage)

No. 140062

>>140061
I'm sorry that you can't get much help where you are. But I definitely think you have an unhealthy relationship with food. Can you get access to a counselor?

It may be embarrassing, but make sure to make it clear to your doctor how much this impacts your life. And how it isn't so much a lack of nutrition information (like the food pyramid), but not being able to control your ability to binge and feeling like you HAVE to make up for it somehow.

No. 140063

i've been "recovered" for over 5 years but only recently started accepting my body. i started working out and eating right.
the thing is, at least in my mind, i dont want to look like that… i dont want to look like i work out. i want to be skinny. not super skinny, not sickly, but i dont want to get bigger. even if its muscle and not fat.
i started lifting weights because thats what people say is the real key to weight loss but really if im going to be "healthy" i want to be a runner.
then again im afraid this is my ED to talking, because runners tend to be slimmer with low body fat and last time i got super into runner, it totally spiraled me to my lowest point
ugh i just dont know what to do

No. 140064

I basically only eat meat and vegetables and dark chocolate because I'm convinced it's the only way to keep my aspergers/adhd symptoms from acting up. I've been doing this for years and have gotten to the point where I legitimately don't crave "unhealthy" food because no food tastes as good as feeling mentally lucid/no "cheat" food is worth the resulting brain fog. I basically don't ever gain weight because of this. Sometimes (actually, a lot of the time) I wonder if it's all just a placebo effect and I'm just orthorexic

No. 140065

i just purged today and yesterday for the first time in over a year.

i really thought i was better. it's not wild and fun anymore. i'm 21. this needs to be over

No. 140066

I purged and got fucking splash back in my fucking eye. I hate this. I hate that I feel ill just from having food in my stomach. I don't even binge–I just feel guilty and gross for being skinnyfat and constantly want to empty my stomach. Ugh.

No. 140067

Been weight restored since last summer (anorexia nervosa) but ever since I keep wishing I was skinny again. I enjoyed being a skeleton, I enjoyed the stares and the whispers. I enjoyed feeling light as a feather, I loved that no clothes ever clung to my body anymore.

I know I'm also forgetting the hell I've been through during the past ten years battling with it. The obsessive calorie-counting, the digestive problems, the hair loss, always feeling cold, my brain turning into mush, the frequent hospital visits, the exhaustion, the insomnia, the obsession with food, the loss of sex drive (which never returned) and becoming increasingly more of a shut in…

It was always there though and I guess it will always be there. I don't think I'll ever be cured of it.

I'm on a diet again and I want to lose it all.

No. 140068

this thread is so sad…

No. 140069

>>140065
>>140066
Anons i feel you.
I actually havent been purging for just over a year… Its weird. One day i just decided "me throwing up this food isnt going to make my problem go away" and it just stuck.
Also for what its worth, take care of your teeth please.
This fucking shit disease caused me to need over $5000 of dental work. Thats my PSA to everyone.

No. 140070

>>140069
Dude, I thought I was a freak because I stopped purging this way to. Just one day I was like nah I'm stopping this and it kind of stuck.

I mean I did b/p yesterday for the first time in like 6-8 months and I have been using fibre supplements and overexercising lately, but man I thought I didn't have "bulimic" tendencies because I could always stop the physical purging when I was too tired or sore or my teeth were getting too fucked up. Thanks for making me feel validated I guess?

I don't know I always feel like with every mental illness I have I'm faking it. Reading through the pro-ana scum thread doesn't help when everyone is claiming that the people posted all have munchausen's or some factitious disorder. It also comes from years of my parent's invalidating me as well and telling me that the doctor was only giving me medication or access to therapy because I lied or manipulated them into believing I had x, y or z. It wasn't until recently that my mom apologized for those years and realized it was because she couldn't accept me as being mentally unwell because she believed (and still believes) it's her fault or has something to do with her.

No. 140071

>>140066
Lmao, bulimia not even once

No. 140072

Purging is seriously addictive. I don't enjoy it and my stomach doesn't even feel very empty afterward, but whenever I make myself puke there's this tiny voice in my head that goes "One more time".
I know this is horribly bad and unhealthy but I'm also very, very unwilling to stop. Not a good meme.

No. 140073

>>140072

m8.
ur teeth m8.
m8.

No. 140074

>>140073
I always brush my teeth afterward, and try to do it only once a week. Will it be that bad?

No. 140075

>>140072
>>140074
You sound exactly like me, it started as once a week but now it's twice a week and it's getting out of control.

No. 140076

>>140074
It's not just your teeth that go though. It's your esophagus, stomach lining, gut bacteria, electrolytes, digestive system etc. Even from "minimal" purging.

You might not notice it now and it may not show up in blood results or scans right away but it's still deteriorating your body.

No. 140077

>>140074

ANON NO
NO
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
NO

Never, ever, EVER brush your teeth after puking! It rubs the acid from your stomach directly into the enamel. You are literally brushing your teeth with acid. If you are going to puke, you need to rinse your mouth out first with water, thoroughly, then with a mouthwash, and then bathe your mouth with own saliva which will break down any acidic remnants itself.

Brushing your teeth after being sick is legit the worst fucking thing you can do. How long have you been doing this for?

No. 140078

>>140077
Holy fuck, really? I've only done it 3 times (started April 1, then April 9, then today).
Thank you for this info, jesus fuck.

No. 140079

I wish I could eat and feel normal, today i had half an apple and some rice with chicken and I'm trying not to throw it all up. Not feeling hungry=feeling fat

No. 140080

>>140078
honestly anon you should be really grateful that you posted that and the other anon corrected you because they are 100% right. i had bulimia but you wouldnt guess it from my teeth, in hospital i saw so many girls with horrible teeth and they all brushed after. i remember talking about it with my dentist at some point and he could tell because i had some enamel loss (inevitable after a long time) but mentioned how much worse the damage is when you brush after

No. 140081

Haven't purged in under a year, since August.

I've gained like almost 20 lbs since then and I wanna start again because I hate myself and want to die.

Problem is I'm moving back in wit my parents. I've never purged living with them… what do I do? How do I do it safely? How do I hide it?

It's easier for me to restrict (just eat one small meal a day and mostly drink fluids) but my mom does everything in her power to make me gain weight even though I'm already hefty right now (115 lb, 5'2"). So I think going back to purging her dinners at least… problem is I have no idea how to stop her from getting suspicious.


No. 140082

>>140081
restriction is at least better for you than bulimia….

if you have to do anything at all just eat her dinners for the day and that's it. you'll still lose heaps of weight on one meal a day.

but my actual advice would be to try and just eat a little less so you lose weight slowly. don't start purging again, whatever you do.

No. 140083

I'm sorry for intruding, but what is that manga in the picture called?

No. 140084

At one point during the beginning of the year I only ate either an egg sandwich or soup every day, man my vision was so weird and I felt like I was gonna black out most of the times along with my head feeling too heavy or too light and basically forgetting everything + hair loss.. I'm doing better now, I'm still terrified of gaining weight but atleast I am eating a lot more. The thing is I'm never hungry, and if I am it's on a rare occasion and during the time where I can't even eat (in school).. So I eat anyway to survive but I just want to be normal and be able to eat only when I'm hungry like you're supposed to but I can't

No. 140085

>>140077
>>140078
>>140074
i can attest to this.
and honestly, if you can help it at all - STOP PURGING.
i used to be ana with bp for a few years. i stopped last year but the damage was done.
i just got my third root canal and last year i had like 20 fillings (hadnt gone to dentist in 4-5 years).
i live in America so dental insurance is shit and ive already maxed it out with one root canal + crown.
so please see a dentist and make sure everything is fine.

No. 140086

>>140083
i think it's something like 'in the clothes called fat'
it's really good but also depressing af, idk if I'd honestly recommend it to someone in recovery because the ending is kind of ~triggering~

No. 140087

>>140081
I was in a similar situation when I moved back in with my parents. I basically hid all of my unhealthy habits by pretending that they weren't as extreme as they were, and I'd research diet/health articles to quote ~science~ in case I was questioned.
I would eat low-calorie breakfasts & lunch in front of my folks (usually scramble egg whites & wasa bread) and convince them that I was also taking in 'snacks' throughout the day because I was adopting a ~grazing~ pattern to aid my diet rather than take three meals a day. But unless it was something like an apple or celery, these snacks didn't exist. then I'd go to the gym for an hour in the afternoons, burn off ~400kcal or so on some cardio machines, and later eat about 3/4ths of the dinner my mom prepared so that she didn't worry. I also would refuse any intake once a week under the guise of 'taking it to my room' or 'eating out with friends' in order to fast. It wasn't a perfect system–if you have any kind of social life at all, there will be a point where you pretty much have to go out for a full meal with another person–but it did help me lose ~45lb over the course of the summer season.

No. 140088

>>140082
She makes really fattening shit though and expects me to eat her portion sizes… I don't want to eat 1200 calories for dinner :/


No. 140089

>>140087
>>140087

I'll be working so I'll be leaving the house before they wake up and only coming back for dinner some days so I only really have to worry about dinner but my mom makes like such high calorie shit, likes to buy fucking pastries and serve them at dinner, the whole nine yards. I mean sometimes she'll go as far as making a whole sushi set up which is usually nice but I don't want to offend her.


No. 140090

>>140088

Tell me about it.. my mom had bullimia in the past and she still constantly wants to lose weight. I think she tries to make me fat to make herself feel better. She also tells me obviously false diet tips like "my doctor told me that if you eat a bunch of snacks right after dinner your body doesnt count it as a single calorie!!!!" Like wtf how does that make sense. I doubt the doctor told her that. Plus hearing her always complain about her weight and wanting to eat things all the time is, for lack of better terms, triggering for me. She expects me to eat dinner but always skips meals herself. She isnt bulimic anymore but she binges like crazy and cant lose weight. I would try helping her but shes convinced she doesnt have an eating disorder because she thinks you only have one if youre either anorexic or bulimic.

No. 140091

Fuck my life. I've been binging for the past two weeks. I weighed myself today and have gained around 6 pounds.

I always have around a period of half a year to a year of restricting and than a longer period of binging or b/ping and managing to gain most of the weight back. Sometimes it's in shorter more rapid cycles as well. I've been dealing with this for over 4 years now.

I've been trying to eat a larger "normal" amount because I never want to get that overweight/obese again and it's not helping me to stop binging. I'm starting to get severely suicidal and my self harm has picked up again.

Also my hair has started to fucking fall out and I have no clue why. That may not be eating disorder related though as I'm being tested for thyroid related conditions soon and I do have an anxiety disorder.

>tfw your parents and friends breath a sigh of relief because they see you eating large/normal amounts of food after months of small portions and rapidly losing weight


> They say things like "Oh thank god you're normal again we were worried you were anorexic or something"


> "Oh you're eating again. Yay! Let's go out for xyz!"



I wish I had access to a gun so I could shoot my face off. I fucking hate this.

I also haven't been officially diagnosed, but I'm pretty fucking sure I have OSFED. Anyone have any advice on how to deal with it or how to reach out for help? My doctor and counselor know about my eating issues, but I told them I wanted to focus on my anxiety disorder treatment first. They agreed with me and said that there's a good chance that when my anxiety is better managed that a lot of the troubles I'm having with my body and eating issues would go away or lessen. Does anyone have that experience?

Sorry for the long post and disjointed thoughts.

No. 140092

Pretty sure I have BED (maybe OSFED?), but when I've tried to get help no one wants to hear about it. I've talked to a doctor and a psychiatrist about it, and they just kind of dismissed me since my main behaviour is binging, and my weight has only been moving up and down in a 10lb range for the last couple of years. Nothing I do seems to help, but I can't seem to get external help either.

No. 140093

>>140092
im sorry no one will listen to you anon :( that must be tough.
instead of psychiatrist though, how about a regular therapist? or even a social worker. or support group. honestly just talking it out is a good place to start, and if its serious, they can refer you to higher care

No. 140094

>>140091
what are you/your doctors plan on managing your anxiety? thats always the best place to start when treating ED, to treat the underlying condition. and do you know what your anxiety is from? learning to cope or avoid triggers should help. best of luck

No. 140095

Deleted for paranoia. Please don't repost if you saw it.

No. 140096

>>140095
I saw it anon. Why delete?

PS your boyfriend sounds like an absolutely rotten human being to say something triggering to you and know full well that what he said was triggering. It's one thing to not understand how little comments can hurt, but he knew what he was saying would hurt? Premeditated assholery at its finest.

No. 140097

>>140094
I've so far been treating it with medication and will be doing some sort of therapy or counselling. I'll eventually join a kind of support group or group therapy when I'm ready.

I've had the anxiety disorder for me whole life, and I'm just started to realize what my triggers are and trying my best to cope. Thanks for the response.

>>140095
I hope one day you'll feel more comfortable sharing your story on here. I know what it is like to deal with paranoia, especially on the internet and with technology, so I hope everyone will respect your wishes and keep that shit to themselves. I wish you the best Anon.

No. 140098

>>140093
Thanks anon. I'm waiting on seeing a therapist, but since I'm seeing her for free through my university it's a long waiting list (it's been two months since I made the appointment). It's so frustrating because I've got worse during that time too.

No. 140099

Recently half-relapsed and trying to snap out of it, not put so much thought into what I eat, stick to diet plan set by nurse etc. The thing that really gets me is that I want normalcy and functioning relationships and a career and all that good stuff but I've been in and out for so long I have some serious doubts about my ability to achieve it. I mean it really is something else to come into a community and see how caught up in thinspo/food stuff people are. Not just eating disordered people but people period. I don't know, I'm just so sick of it all and wish I could disconnect from the bullshit but it feels like such a pervasive aspect of ~society. I've had this problem since 2002 when I was a child and really never want to hear about BMI or calories or blah blah ever again. Feels bad man.

No. 140100

>>140099
Same anon. I just keep thinking about the whole culture surrounding eating disorders, mostly anorexia I suppose. I thought I would feel motivated to recover and mentally heal but instead I feel like dirt, like real physical dirt is on me. Maybe that's kinda the process, I don't know. Here's a motivator I'm finding quite useful atm though: thinking about this mental illness being with me for 14 years makes me feel more physically sick than any IP I got. 14 fucking years. There are pro ana scumbags who are younger than that. It seriously makes me want to puke.

No. 140101

This is going to sound like a stupid question, but is it possible to have an unhealthy relationship with food without having an ED?

For example, I go through brief periods of purging and restriction every few months, but always return to normal eating habits. I don't have a bad body image of myself and don't care about being skinny. Is this the same as a lousy diet or should I be concerned?

No. 140102

>>140101
Is it stress or anxiety related perhaps?

No. 140103

>>140102
I would say I'm definitely stressed during those periods, and it makes me feel in control.

No. 140104

i've been over eating a lot lately and it's upsetting me. I'm used to being 5-10 lbs underweight and now i'm 'healthy' and i can't stand it.

it might be one thing if i gained it slowly and gained some muscle as well but i gained it really really quickly because i've been eating wayyy too much and i'm worried i'm just going to keep gaining. i've been fine with my eating for a while so it's also alarming and i don't want to fall into cycles again. i haven't started purging again but the thoughts are there again, which bothersme.

No. 140105

>>140103
I did this a lot too when i was younger (still have issues with it) to the point people and myself thought i had bulimia but i didnt want to be skinnier. But the thing i had in common with people that had eds was that i wanted to be perfect in everything i did, so i put a lot of pressure on myself to the point were i almost snapped. and the only way to calm down was to vomit or starve myself it made stuff easier to deal with. This behavior can be quite dangerous and can harm you, destroy your insides, teeth, your heart could suffer etc. Everything that can happen to a person with bulimia can happen to you. You probably never learned (like me) how to cope with stress normally and abuse the only thing you feel you can control during those moments of stress, your food intake. So it has all the characteristics of an eating disorder except the wanna be skinny part. (excuse my weird english its not my mother tongue but i hope you get the jist of it)

No. 140106

how are your symptoms triggered? is there a specific situation that causes you to go into ed-mode?

No. 140107

>>140105
I think you are describing what I go through really well. I've always thought that maybe it was the stage before an eating disorder, y'know, if I got any worse it would develop into one.

>>140106
It's hard to say a specific situation, but I think it's when I go through phases of doing nothing and I feel like I'm wasting my life away and there's a lot of pressure on me to do something. When I was younger it happened when I was failing classes.

No. 140108

>>140107
It sounds like anxiety to me but that's just off of a few replies. That fits in with how a lot of eating disorders develop so I understand you feeling like you're dancing along a fine line. I'd say try and find the roots of your anxiety (mine was family-based pressure to succeed and live up to expectations) and see what you can do about it realistically. I had to confront my fear of genuine independence, low self esteem and high expectations. It's different for everyone -maybe try writing down situations/weeks when it's rearing it's ugly head and see if you can find correlations in home life, school/work, friends, ect? Something might be really bothering you about any of those, or you could just be perpetually scared of the future like I was. take care of yourself as best you can.

No. 140109

>>140108
Thank you, anon. I'll bring up these issues with my therapist and try to get to the root of the problem. It was good to hear others opinions / experiences though. You take care too ~ *

No. 140110

Hey there. I wasn't sure whether I should post this on the mental health thread, or this, but here I am.
My ED started last year. I was overweight back then (BMI 28 or more) and in denial. I remembered hearing about bulimia at school when I was younger, so I googled "how to purge" or something. It was an experiment at first, but I lost control. I restricted a lot the first months, like less than 200 calories. I lost a massive amount of weight.
This summer, I lost even more. I'm at a 22 BMI now, but I'm stuck between losing more or being normal. Between march and april, I started purging 5 days a week. Now, I'm only doing it one day a week. But I don't need it. I don't need my ED. I have amazing grades, I have a social life, I don't have problems with my family, friends or teachers. But you see, my life wouldn't be so amazing without my ED. Because losing weight gave me confidence, and if I gain, I'll lost that confidence.
I don't know what to do, because I've never had normal eating patterns, and recovering is frightening. I've been stuck at a binge cycle, as well, but they're not really "binges" because I manage to stay below my BMR.

No. 140111

>>140106
Anxiety, depression, awkward social encounters.

I recently went 1.5 weeks without binging and purging which is amazing for me since I struggle daily. The whole time I feel like I have to pep myself up and keep my mind busy or else I just realize my life is pointless. Now I've been really depressed lately and don't care enough to try "recovering" so I've been binging and purging every night. I don't have fucked up eating habits and my weight has been the same for 5 years (5'4" 105lbs) which I'm ok with. I don't even really crave the food I just want to binge and purge because it makes me feel good.

No. 140112

>>140111
Sage because I forgot to say I do want to stop. My binges at night over the last few days have been so huge (1 large dominoes cheese pizza, 2 orders of brownies, 1 batch of homemade cookies, 2 bags of family size chips, box of Oreos, stack of homemade pancakes and a ton of other random shit in the house in one night). It feels like my heart is in a lot of pain towards the end of the night and it wouldn't be so bad if my binges weren't so big but I keep ordering/making/scavenging for more food to eat and throw up.

No. 140113

>>139942
Any other anons chew and spit? I know it's disgusting.

No. 140114

>>140113
Meeeeeee.
Better for your body than b/p at least. If not a tad bit more shameful. Only thing I ever got was an infected salivary gland.

No. 140115

>BF admits I've been getting fatter
>I'm literally the 5'2 115lbs meme right now

I'm so fucking scared, y'all. I have nightmares about being so fat that I take up our entire bed. I look in the mirror and might as well see static. I spend hours on apps Photoshopping my face and body and spend free time at home sitting in front of the mirror and grabbing the gobs and handfuls of fat on my stomach. And yet, I can't stop eating shit, I can't stop binging on stupid shit and buying more and more food to shove in my pathetic mouth.

I've fallen back into my black coffee/sugar-free gum/celery/Coke Zero habits and I've become terrified of eating and leaving the house because I feel like a freak. I know, logically, that I'm not 600lbs disgusting but it fucking feels that way. I don't understand the disconnect between my eyes and my mind and my body. Sorry for the long vent, maybe this is better suited for another thread…

No. 140116

>>140115
Wait are you actually 5'2" 115 lbs?
Because that's literally not fat AT ALL
(don't listen to ana-chans, never listen to ana-chans)

Did your BF actually use the word fat or did he just agree when you asked if you've put on weight?

Also, I don't think you should be drinking Diet Coke, shits so bad for you. Do you like fruit / veggie smoothies, anon? Maybe you can replace the Coke with that sort of thing, using low-sugar fruits. Or if you like the fizzyness of Soda, maybe try carbonated water?
I think I read that carbonated water makes you feel less hungry without all the calories and sugar of soda.

Do you exercise or anything?

No. 140117

>>139989
I noticed no one replied to you so I hope you see this….. NO. I was doing squats for over a year and while my butt/thighs got a little bit bigger/toned/rounder, it wasn't in a bad way at all. Trust me anon, it looks good! Also, I was doing heavy lifting, not just body squats. So you could forget weight lifting entirely if you're really that concerned, but that's what is really going to make the butt look more round.

No. 140118

>>140115

anon, what do you eat? I am 5'2 and 98lbs and I know exactly how you feel. I binged on junk for about two months after I left university because I had no way of getting much food there, so I kind of went overboard. I gained like 10 pounds and I know it may not sound like a lot but I had a muffin top/fat stomach.


I am petite so weight shows very intensely on my body. In no way do i starve myself but I think what is important for me to stay 100lbs and under (95 is the lowest i go) is to watch out for sugary drinks and snacks.

instead of soda you could try iced tea with no sugar and a no cal substitute for sweetness if you want (like stevia). What are your meals like?

No. 140119

My bulimia has gotten really bad lately and I don't know what to do. I thought I could control it but now everything I eat feels ''too much'' even if I calorie count, I feel sick if I vomit but I feel sick if I don't.

No. 140120

>>140115
Wew are you me because I've been gaining weight over the last few months and it's made me like feel frantic and terrified and like my nerves are rubbed raw and everything i do has a slightly hysterical edge. My boyfriend has noticed too. He's like, "the weight suits you." And nice stuff like that so he's been really supportive and stuff but holy shit if i don't still want to kill myself because I feel pig disgusting. And its because i havent been throwing up everything.i eat now ha ha ha. I feel awful.

No. 140121

>>140115
>>140120
i feel you anons :(
i'm in the same place. for a brief day or two i felt comfortable. "this is my new weight" i thought. "im ok with this" i thought. but then im just terrified the weight gain wont stop.

No. 140122

>>140113
me.
i waste so much money. it makes me feel so guilty which in turn, triggers more behavior.

No. 140123

>>140121
Like sometimes I'll look at myself in the mirror and be like, "hey i have a butt again. That's kinda nice." And then I'll be okay with it for like a day and then I'll sink back into self loathing and feel like a cow. Does this shit ever end? Has anyone in this thread recovered successfully (success being relative)? Idk it used to be that i would only consider recovering seriously when i was at a really low weight, but now it feels like i've got nowhere else to go with this ED. It's just misery and ugh.

No. 140124

>>140123
i dont even know if it is considered 'recovered' really but when i was at the lower end of normal bmi, i was content. i was neither restricting nor binging.
(bmi doesnt mean much, i know, but… ED people know the numbers obsession)
ive had an ED half my life so im not one to judge what is normal, but its it really that awful and weird to want to be skinny? im not saying i want to be a skeleton or even abnormally thin.

No. 140125

>>140124

no. You can want to be thin or skinny, it just becomes an issue when you become so obsessed with it that it fucks up your everyday life

No. 140126

>>140125
thank you for putting some sense in my head.

i mean yea i just feel better about my self and feel comfortable in my body when i am thinner. again, not a skeleton. and the behaviors/thoughts dont rule my life.

No. 140127

struggling :( its a rainy day and there's a bunch of food in my house.

as a typical ED person, i have that black and white thinking.
if a package is open or if there is food i must eat it all; otherwise i eat nothing.
i think its more of an OCD thing, though I have never been diagnosed with that.

what about you guys? do you think an underlying mental disorder precedes ED or vice versa?

No. 140128

>>140127

The kind of binary thinking was something that was very prevalent for me throughout my ED and even today after pseudo-recovery. It'd be either me caving and eating a cookie and then thinking "Okay, the whole day is ruined, I'm a fucking pig, might as well just eat *EVERYTHING* now", or like, not eating for 12 days in a row lel

No. 140129

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>think i'm doing ok
>incidentally ate a lot today
>someone pokes fun at me about it (he doesn't know about my ED, so I can't blame him)
>"you're gonna need a bigger seat anon"
>mfw
>laugh it off
>"h-haha very funny LOL i'm so offended (but not really) lol haha xD :) haha"
>end up purging
>drank too much water beforehand, didn't see as much solid food as I should've
>felt too sick to power through it and puke everything up, stopped after I splashed myself with my own watery vomit
>tfw I'm such a worthless piece of shit I even managed to fuck up something as simple as vomiting up food
Rest in pieces.

No. 140130

>>140129
Christ anon don't do that to yourself.
Do you have any idea how bad induced vomiting is for you.

Your friend wouldn't have made that joke if you were actually a tubby person, you know that right?

No. 140131

>>140130
I know it's really bad, but once I feel the urge to do it, I feel like garbage until I do. It sticks to the back of my mind for the rest of the day, it's like a compulsion.
He hasn't actually seen what I look like.

No. 140132

>>140130
Oh shit anon, purging is, in fact, bad, as opposed to good? Yikes, better just Not have an eating disorder then! tysm

No. 140133

I just ate 4 fucking cookies in a row and I feel so disgusted and ashamed of myself. I swore I'd never get into purging after I saw it completely FUCK my sisters teeth though, so now I have to sit and experience the feelings of it digesting inside of me. Jesus fucking why did I do it. They weren't small cookies either, they were the big ones you get in paper bags 4 at a time. WHY.

No. 140134

>>140133
Jump rope or run or exercise or dance for a couple of hours. Bam majority of those calories gone.

No. 140135

>>140133
Take a deep breath. Acknowledge what happened, accept it, and don't punish yourself for it. Mistakes happen. Tell yourself you will do better next time.

You'll be okay, anon.

No. 140136

>>140133
Fucking bakery cookies, I know that feel… Just remember 4 cookies alone isn't enough to make you gain weight. I hope you managed to feel better x

No. 140137

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Just a rant i guess
I have been "recovered" for more than 1 year now, but holy fuck, how I miss it. I miss being thin, I miss feeling good about myself when I lost weight.
I don't know how it was for you guys, but I had "fun" with my ED, it was just like a game for me, and I was winning, I felt so powerful. I have been thinking a lot about this, and I feel like I might relapse, I'm scared but I really want it at the same time. Fuck me for being like this, holy fucking shit, why.

No. 140138

>>140137
I think many people feel a similar way but the thing is if you go back to it long-term your body will become ravaged beyond repair and it would no longer be just a fun game. It would be the end of your life. So that's why it's worth it to continue being healthy

No. 140139

>>140137

I remember it being fun for me at the time as well, but looking back, fuck I was ill. I was so fucking sick and I didn't even really realise it. I might be a chubster now, but at least I can get out of bed in morning without collapsing, or climb a stairwell without feeling like I'm about to have a heartattack from the effort. I don't go to bed any more wondering if this will be the night my heart gives out on me.
I don't think skinny is better or fun when it's at the cost of your health.

No. 140140

So, I've had anorexia since I was …twelve? A couple of years ago I got diagnosed with osteoporosis and it really freaked me out and got me motivated enough to gain about 20 pounds, but I still don't have my period back, though my body went through two proper cycles last winter. I'm currently nineteen and about BMI 17.5. Mental health treatment is crap where I'm from, so nobody is pushing me to gain anymore. Literally everyone I've ever known believes I'm fully recovered and seriously, most of my friends are about the same size, if not smaller. My weight has stayed exactly the same for the past year with me eating about 2000 calories a day.

The thing is, I really really want to get my period back but I feel incredibly uneasy when thinking about gaining more weight. Plus, I'm afraid my boyfriend will find me less attractive then. Now it really fucking looks obvious what I should do but the little voice in my head telling I'm way way too heavy to have the need to "restore" my weight anymore can't be convinced.

No. 140141

>>140140
If you don't have your period back you are not at a healthy weight. 17.5 is underweight. Don't base your goal weight off what you think your friends weigh.
Gain weight until you get your period back and incorporate more fats into your diet. Anorexia induced amenorrhoea is very unhealthy and will worsen your osteoporosis.

No. 140142

>>140140
If your thinness is more important to your bad than your health, he's not a good boyfriend.

No. 140143

I've lost 20 pounds since January and I'm aiming for 95 for the long term. I was so happy last month I finally hit below 111(I was stuck between 112-113 for 2 months, it was depressing)

My job sent me out on a 3 week long business trip and it's stressed me out so much. I wasn't able to keep track of what I was eating due to time constraints and I couldn't weigh myself because the hotels didn't have a scale. I'm finally back home and I'm 113 again. It feels fucking terrible. I swear there's more fat on my stomach than there was previously when I was at 113. feels so fucking bad man

No. 140144

I've just weighed myself after ages and I'm 110, been at 99lbs for ages now. Although I dont really ''trust'' the scale we have at home I'm freaking out, I've exercised tons today and I haven't eaten yet but I don't know what to d.

No. 140145

I'm gonna rant, sorry.
So for 19 years I was obese…I'm talking 5'5, almost 300 lbs. 9 Months later, I'm the hospital at 120 pounds because I wanted to cheat death, still eat all the foods I wanted by binging and purging, and being thin for the first time in my entire life. No one really intervened, so I kept going on like this was all some sort of game. Finally hit 99 before somehow becoming pregnant 2 years ago (wtf though) and subsequently miscarrying. Which, as horrible as it may sound, was probably for the better, as I was in no state to have a child. Also I don't know why I didn't die…I never even developed any serious issues, aside from repeated hypokalemia (my level was 1.9 at one point!), arrhythmia, and ALMOST renal failure which corrected itself???? Now that I'm not "active" i.e. trying to loose an aggressive 2 lbs daily, I'm hovering around 120 lbs…by purging. /personalrant

Idk man…I'm torn between being able to eat EVERYTHING and still stay thin and being healthy, looking healthy, and not feeling like shit day in and day out. I want to start by at LEAST drinking water and keeping it down, but even that seems like a chore

No. 140146

>>140144
Omg this happened tome too recently :(

No. 140147

Not really an eating disorder but I've started going gym burning off over 350 each couple of days I've been going… I'm living on friggin veggie soup and fruits. Its so boring, I crave sugary foods all the time but ew weighing myself and getting heavier no thanks :(

No. 140148

>>140147
Replace the sugary foods with fruits, you can eat as many fruits as you want no problem

No. 140149

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Do you guys have any other recommendations for media to watch whilst working out?

I like to watch a lot of ED documentaries, but my guilty pleasure if binge watching episodes of Supersize v.s. Superskinny whilst working up a sweat.

No. 140150

>>140148
Fruits still have calories anon. They're way better than sweets sure, but 115 calories is still 115 calories. If anon started eating 3 bananas a day that would be 345 calories. In other words she'd eat all the calories she burned right back. Fruit is great when you want something sweet on a diet, but it's not a free for all.

No. 140151

>>140150

I only eat fruit in smoothies in the morning before gym tbh… I don't eat them at night. I just drink green tea or sometimes yogurt just for supper :)

Fruit still does have sugar though gotta be careful with fruits tbh

No. 140152

>>140151

Plus I'd rather have fruits than doughnuts or something, I mean on cheat day I will eat something naughty then gym again next day. But I've come to love water, tea and veggies because I used to have such bad skin and wearing no make up (I'm taking a break from it plus its just too hot atm) and eating right has helped my skin, hair and nails vastly.

No. 140153

>>140149

watch the film dying to be thin

No. 140154

>>140150
My bad I had watery fruits in mind like melons and stuff.

No. 140155

>>140147
a couple things:
- your sugar cravings will die down soon enough. just stick with it. its tough at first. sugar is an addictive substance.
- i also gained weight when i started going to the gym. it scared me so i stopped -_-
- eat fruits in moderation if you crave sugar. remember natural sugar is much better than processed/refined sugar but its till sugar.
the best fruits are apples (good for stabilizing blood sugar) and melon (high water content to keep you full and relatively lower calorie) and berries (straberries and blueberries contain many nutrients)

No. 140156

>>140149
lol i used to watch intervention a lot. its mostly drug addicts but occasionally ED people.
there used to be 2 shows called 'freaky eaters' and starving secrets'
idk what happened to them but probably online somewhere

No. 140157

Sorry, I'm just rambling because I'm a bit worried that I might actually be making things worse for myself.
For the longest time I have been buying clothing from the childrens section and been eating from childrens plastic tableware. Not so long ago i decided on a life change. Instead of wearing kids clothing I went out and bought small sized designer clothes and at the moment i'm accumulating a nice set of overly expensive tableware. I have to admit it feels pretty good. I'm not sure if pampering myself like this might actually encourage my issues, but at least I'm feeling somewhat accomplished.

No. 140158

>>140157

Do you ever feel like your issues with eating may stem from a fear of having to assume responsibility, and so maintaining a low weight forces you to assume a child-like body and become vulnerable like a child?

No. 140159

I haven't been eating but I've heard that starving can kill your metabolism and fuck everything up and you don't lose anything, how true is that?

No. 140160

Rambling incoming, sorry but I can't talk about it to anyone in my life I'm too ashamed of being so self centered and vapid.

I've been looking at picture of me from 1-2 yrs ago and I looked so big on them. It's fucking me up because there is only a 20 pounds difference between then and my current weigh. My hair was destroyed at this time so I had to cut it extremely short making me look like a teenage boy, I was really really bad looking.
Now I'm thinner, and my hair is long and quite pretty, I KNOW I look better but I'm so much more miserable, I always thought I would be happier if I could manage to be prettier and more feminine, but I just feel so imperfect and so unsatisfied of myself. I keep telling myself that I just have to lose more weight but I'm afraid it won't do anything.
I also dislike the way my body look because I have huge bones and I look bony even if I'm not that skinny, I can never be delicate and dainty.
I'm honestly lost.

No. 140161

I ate two cookies today, I feel gross now but I will go gym tomorrow morning so it makes me feel better about myself :)

No. 140162

I don't have a problem with food but I hate feeling too full? I hate eating when I'm out too unless its just a frap drink or something very light like a sandwich and that's it. I don't know how people can chow down at lunch while they're out and not feel gross. I feel gross if I'm too full. Like how do they not feel sick?

No. 140163

>>140162
i agree. for me, that feeling of being too full completely outweighs any satisfaction i got from eating whatever it was.
or when people eat ridiculously fast, it makes me so anxious. i hate being the only one eating, so if those around me eat too fast, i either eat fast too (and get anxious) or end up still eating when everyone else is done.

No. 140164

>>140158
not that anon but this theory of eating disorders irks me.
i know every ED is different but i've never felt/thought that was about my ED and if this theory floats around, people assume its true about all sufferers

No. 140165

>>140164

idk why it would irk you. I asked as a recovered anorexic for whom this was the case. It's not a theory, it's actually a very common cause.

No. 140166

>>140165
it irks me because people parade around this theory and its not related to me. why would anyone want to admit they have issues 'growing up' and still wants to remain dependent on others by being sick ?

No. 140167

I binged/purged for the first time in 2 years today.
It felt so good.
Fuck.

No. 140168

>>140167
Sure taking the easy way out to get endorphins and avoid getting fat on it feels good once but over time it won't feel good if you depend on it, it makes your teeth look like shit, your cheeks bloat, causes all kinds of unpleasant health issues etc

No. 140169

>>140166

So, you're annoyed because people are discussing a theory that doesn't pertain to you directly? Attention whore.

No. 140170

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I've been eating 1300~1400 calories a day all week and I hate myself so much for it. My max caloric intake is supposed to be 1200cals but I can't stop thinking about food, so I eat and eat and eat. Being depressed + weak makes it hard to exercise and I really don't want to purge anymore but it's starting to look like the only option, fuck fuck fuck fuck.

No. 140171

>>140164
I mean god, I get kind of bugged by the whole "control" stereotype that comes with being diagnosed AN restrictive, but getting mad about a theory that does fit a lot of people is ridiculous. There isn't just one universal ED mindset so obviously not every cause will fit every person. Get over yourself.

No. 140172

>>140170
I used to drink tons of water bottles or would eat tons of lettuce if I ever really felt the need to binge. Working on wanting to binge is best of course, but in the meantime doing something like that can help. I would also make myself eat something I found really gross like plain kale until I didn't feel like eating at all anymore.

No. 140173

have been asking myself if something was wrong with me since i had a meltdown at a department store when i was 12 and grew out of certain size. i started to hate my thighs.

but i emotionally eat. was always treated with food as a kind gesture from my father who i otherwise have 0 profound relationship with.

have kept on and off calorie journals, watched a million documentaries, shows, joined tons of forums, read everything. tips, ticks. thinspo folders. i could but never considered myself to have an eating disorder. hung a pair of petite children's shorts up as a weight loss goal.

got super depressed at 18 and dropped to maybe 98 lbs.
gained it all and then some in college. had an expensive meal plan and felt guilty for wasting money so i ate.

stress and depression, anxiety, rape, breakups, financial ruin.

currently at my highest 127. the disgust is real.

really bad life changing situations, have developed a sudden fascination with nutrition and diets. all i do is read about food. think about food. talk about food. talk about not eating it. talk about eating it. talk about how i need to lose weight. i cried to somebody a month ago about how i feel like its controlling my entire life and i cant function without thinking about the next time i eat and how anxious it makes me.


found out about non-purging bulimia.
its safe to say i have ednos or some shit i think. i dont know how i can have a healthy relationship with food. its become all or nothing. i cant have a healthy relationship with food and look the way i want to look. and i never keep up long enough to see the results.

No. 140174

>>140170
Eating 100-200 calories extra for a week is not going to have any significant effect on your weight or body whatsoever so you absolutely should not purge.

No. 140175

i'm looking at pics of myself from when i first got quite underweight. since then i lost a lot more weight, then gained in recovery, and now i've lost an unknown amount of weight but i'd guess i'm a fair bit lower than these photos. i'm at least a dress size smaller judging from my clothes anyways. and i seriously, genuinely look obese. i am not just saying that hyperbolically, that's how bad my perception has gotten. i looked at these exact photos in recovery and cried over how i looked "just right" there and then everything lower looked awful and disgusting and scary, and now i physically can't even process that these photos are at all underweight because they just look so big.

i wish i could fucking see myself for how i actually looked. i still pretend i'm eating okay in therapy because i'm scared they'll see tell me that my weight is actually fine and think i'm a fraud. i just want to be thin enough for people to start giving a damn about me again and acknowledging that i have a problem because no one seems to do shit about all my other MH issues when i'm "physically stable"

No. 140176

Posted here a while ago. Since moving in with my boyfriend I have been maintaining at 110 lbs at 5'2".

The kind of horrifying thing is that I am objectively fat at this weight. I have soccer mom arms and thick thighs, and a big gut. My face is really doughy and makes me look nearly unrecognisable. With the weight gain came visible laugh lines and other marks of aging that I never had before that I definitely should not have as a 20 year old woman. These are not signs of body dysmorphia. Other people completely agree with me on this. I have never had a problem seeing what I really look like either.

At work whenever weight comes up, no one ever calls me thin, even when the other girls are commenting on weight. I don't get any comments at all, actually, which further cements that I am 'average,' which is chubby. I fished for comments one time when I said 'I used to be really skinny but I got so chubby.' My two female coworkers looked at me assessingly and accepted the comment. Not even the typical female 'oh no you look fiiiiiine.' Fucking damning.

I was really sick before, and have been intentionally maintaining this higher weight, which is incidentally the most I have ever weighed. But fuck me, it's slowly killing me to be this fat. I've been eating healthily and maintaining this weight for months and none of my symptoms have gone away. I'm still dizzy and faint, still have lanugo, brittle nails, hair falling out, tired all the time, nausea whenever I eat, aching in my bones. There has been absolutely no improvement. There is absolutely no compelling reason for me to maintain any more.

Today makes exactly three months that I have made this conscious and full effort to 'recover,' eating beyond my TDEE at first to gain – which took about a month for 15 lbs – and then eating at my TDEE to maintain. Tomorrow will be the day I begin restricting again.

This is what fucks me up. I essentially gained this weight as an experiment to see if I could actually get my health back. I did everything right but it seems that I have permanently fucked up my body. So what reason is there possibly to stay fat when I feel exactly the same now as I did at my 'ideal weight' of 75-85 I maintained at for years and years. I actually feel worse now from the constant nausea, not to mention wasting so much money on food, and I get extremely sweaty and greasy all the time now too, not to mention stomach cramps and acid reflux.

It is genuinely too late for me to recover, apparently. Not like I even wanted to. I don't even really care if I die. I contemplate suicide every day as it is. But fuck me if I didn't want to not feel like absolute shit on a physical level every day. There's no excuse for a fat girl to have these symptoms.

The long and short of it is that I'm going back to 80. That's just around 30 lbs now. How horrifying. I am 30 lbs higher than the weight I consider to be normal for me. That's at least three months I will have to stay fat. How fucking horrifying.

No. 140177

>>140127
Well, ED is kind of a form of OCD when you think a out it

No. 140178

>>140176
anon just because its been 3 months and your physical symptons havent gone away, its not a good enough reason to restrict.
"oh well my body isnt getting better so i might as well restrict again" — NO!!! i know every body is different but it took me 6months to a year to get my body back to somewhat normal. my hair nails and skin were so dull and lifeless and i didnt have my period. it takes time but you have to stick with it. restricting again wont help. and who knows, once you get some physicaly health back, your metabolism might bounce back and your weight could balance out. 5'2' and 110 isnt horrible by the way. lift some weights if you feel bad, but dont restrict!

No. 140179

yesterday was the first time i threw up in 6 years.
i binged on chinese food with my boyfriend's family and overate to the point of nausea.

it felt euphoric. i felt so in control as the tears came down my face. i was happy looking at it all come up. i was smiling afterwards, i felt so light and so dizzy and
free. i can't believe how amazing it felt and now i see why this is addictive.

it didn't help that for the rest of the night i had to battle ice cream cravings when they all went out to get some.

No. 140180

>>140178
>>140176

yeah you could be me, 5'2" and 125.
it's going to take so many months of restriction to get down to 95. and if i fuck up once its over and will take longer. as usual. i never have the endurance to make it that long and see the results.

No. 140181

>>140176
Are you me? Except my ideal weight is 90.

Fuck. I wish you luck sister

No. 140182

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How many calories do you guys say you'd eat? I just went around 800 today and I'm panicking really bad and feel awful. I can't throw it all up because I'm horribly emetophobic.

Sorry if this kinda stuff isn't allowed in the thread, I'm just really freaking out.

No. 140183

>>140182
tomorrow's a new day anon

No. 140184

>>140182
800 is seriously small, you could be a toddler and you'd lose on that amount. Chin up anon, it's just your disorder trying to make you feel shit<3

No. 140185

>>140182
unless you're really a midget, 800 is too little
no worries anon, at only 800 kcal you'll still lose weight but you probably should eat a bit more and you'll still lose weight.

No. 140186

>>140182
Forgot to answer your question.
I eat around 1200/1400 kcal when I'm cutting but I'm tall (178cm)

No. 140187

>>140182
That is way too little to healthily sustain yourself long term.

No. 140188

I have a restrictive eating disorder and I really need advice. Please help me from your healthy perspective - I personally think it's easy to spot disordered thoughts in others with EDs.
Is it normal to have cake (300-700 kcal) when you go out for coffee with a friend? I have a friend that I often get coffee with when we meet up in the afternoon and she often proposes getting a piece of cake with it. It really bugs me because I feel like it is over the top and something you should only eat once in a blue moon.
Please help me out someone. Am I being overly judgmental because of my disordered perspective or is it normal?

No. 140189

>>140188
I don't think that's too unusual, depending on how often you guys get coffee. She probably really likes cake and sees that as an "excuse" to eat some. Cakes are a fairly extravagant dessert (something for birthdays, events, most people probably don't eat it that often).

I don't have an ED, but for me personally, I think getting a piece of cake every time is a bit much, if you meet with her often. tbf, I just don't like cake, if that might skew my opinion

No. 140190

>>140188
If it's everyday, then cake each time is too much.
If it's every week, then I can't see the problem, really.

No. 140191

>>140189
>>140190
It's several times a week, which is why I think it's weird and challenging for me. So it's not something special but kind of like an everyday thing. I didn't grow up having dessert every day for sure

No. 140192

>>140188
Depends on the piece of cake. I know the palce here has small little 200cal 'tarts' which would be okay maybe once or twice a week, maximum, if she is healthy and her BMR is high and she isn't pigging out outside of that.

But every day or like every other day i'd think that was too much for me. but then again idk. is she fat? it really depends if she's fat. I try to aim for around 800/cal a day to maintain my body, but some people who are more average sized can eat up to 2k depending on how tall they are…


No. 140193

>>140191
Okay yeah, several times a week is a lot of cake, imo (cake hater here). you don't have to order it with her. I don't think it would be out of the ordinary to decline ordering cake multiple times a week, or avoid eating dessert foods in the afternoon. your ED aside, I think avoiding ordering cake every time you go out for coffee many times a week is a habit that non-ED regular healthy people employ.

No. 140194

>>140191
I love cake but yeah that sounds excessive, pre-ED I'd consider it a kind of once-a-week thing at most. Just say no, or maybe pick something lighter to eat with her if she's awkward about eating by herself? If she's healthy weight it might not be too much for her, but everyone is different and there's nothing wrong with saying that you feel it's too much for you without her having to take it personally.

No. 140195

>>140188
i had friends like that too. it made me so uncomfortable and kind of second hand embarrassment to be honest.
you dont need to treat yourself everyday. its not even an ED thing.

No. 140196

>>140192
All the cakes are 300-800 kcal, though most are around 500.
She is either very very close to overweight or slightly overweight and the kind that complains about her body but never does anything about it :/ I just feel uncomfortable listening to her complain while she's eating junk on an almost daily basis.

>>140193
It's not even that I dislike cake. I just feel bad eating it knowing I could have had a huge healthy meal for those calories. I always feel pressured to eat cake when she orders some and then feel like an ED asshole for getting something with a lot less calories.

>>140195
Yeah it is not even a treat when it happens almost every day… at my worst I would still eat junk food and sweets but in limited amounts and pretty much nothing else. I don't want to fall back into that by avoiding eating all day out of fear she will want to eat something sweet again. What I care about is establishing healthier food habits and I suspected eating so much cake and dessert type foods is not one of them.

No. 140197

>>140196
Don't feel pressured to order cake if she does, anon, especially if doing so may exacerbate your ED. At this point you can even pull the easy excuse of "I'd rather hold off… I'm a bit sick/tired of cake lately". I don't know where you live, but here it's pretty normal for people to choose healthier options (i.e. not ordering junk) even when friends do. If she feels hurt or threatened by it and asks you, it wouldn't be out of line to honestly tell her that you were just not raised to consume desserts too often.

And maybe, just maybe, you denying ordering cake may make her question her own habits and turn towards a healthier lifestyle.

No. 140198

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I haven't eaten in 3 days and I feel fucking exhausted.
It's been a while since I worked out properly too and now every area of my body from my obliques to my deltoids ache with every movement, but at the same it feels so good.
I should probably go eat something, but I know my body is running exclusively off of the fat stored on my body at this point and that the longer I leave it the more weight I'll lose.

hahahHAHAha ED's are FUN HAHA ha xDDDD

No. 140199

>>140196
Wow, I don't know.

It is REALLY excessive to eat 500 calories as a desert while you're meeting a friend… and super unhealthy.

I'm a normal height weight (not skinny by any means) and that is like half of my days worth of calories. For one slice of cake that probably tastes shitty anyway? (I'm not a huge fan of cake). Idk, maybe it's just me but I'd rather have a huge salad and a bowl of fruits rather than a small piece of cake.

Just ignore your friend and keep ordering lower cal stuff. I'm sure one day she'll realize it's too decadent for every day. It's not healthy.


No. 140200

>>140198
d-do you need someone to talk to anon?

No. 140201

>>140200

Probably lel

No. 140202

>>140201

I can make a throwaway email if anything.

but please eat lunch first

No. 140203

>>140198
> I know my body is running exclusively off of the fat stored on my body at this point and that the longer I leave it the more weight I'll lose.
you know this is flawed right?

No. 140204

>>140196
anon, just do you.
dont let other people guilt you to eat or not eat. dont let other peoples choices affect yours. you'll be ok

No. 140205

>>140203

It's not though. When your body doesn't have sufficient energy via recently consumed food it turns to catabolising fat stores on the body in order to fuel your BMR and other functions.

No. 140206

>>140205
no your body is just eating your brain

No. 140207

>>140206
That's not how it works?

No. 140208

>>140206

Looks like somebody didn't pay attention in biology :^)

Your body priorities catabolisation of fat > muscle > organs.

No. 140209

I've lost a good amount of weight this past year and my tits were the same until recently. They went from a 32D to I have no idea what now but none of my bras fit and I can slide my hand inbetween them.

I'm so glad to finally be going towards the skinny range but is it worth losing my tits? are my tits lost forever? Fuck me

No. 140210

>>140209
I wouldn't care about having smaller breasts, I'd be much more worried about the sagging and such. Especially if you tend to fluctuate.

No. 140211

>>140210
I've looked at a lot of saggy breast tutorials and I can't tell if mine has gotten to that level yet.

I'm trying to do more exercise to tighten them if they really are sagging.

No. 140212

>>140164
>>140158
This theory is pretty fucking outdated and AFAIK it was based on observations of patients already severely anorexic on the grasp of the disease, after they had already suffered its effects. Age regression was inappropriately slapped as a cause on people who didn't have eds because of that, and to this day is still considered THE thing anorexia is about. It's not. It's just a popular theory that does not apply to as many patients as people believe, and once you've been in treatment long enough you begin to get pissed off at everyone acting like they know you better than yourself, every new therapist thinking they don't need to listen to you because they totes know the causes of your disease.

Besides,
>complaining about crazy people doing crazy shit

No. 140213

I've been curious about this for a while, if you're deeply anorexic (like Smegeh level), do your boobs just go away? Do they come back if you gain weight? Where does the breast tissue go? Do they always sag if they shrink or is there a way to completely avoid them sagging while they shrink? I don't know why I'm so curious about this…

No. 140214

>>140213
I doubt there is a one size that fits all for that, age and natural breast size will all factor in.
Anecdote here but a relative of mine who has been anorexic her whole life somehow managed to have a baby and has ended up with breasts from it. I don't know how because she looked too slim to even have periods, we're talking a 30 year old woman in age 12 clothing and completely flat chest, but she managed to carry to full term and eat according to guidelines during her pregnancy for the sake of the baby. She stopped breastfeeding over a year ago and she is back to hardly eating, so I'm curious if they will stay or not.

No. 140215

>>140213
I'm a C cup when my BMI is 18 (still technically underweight, but that's what I weigh when I'm eating normally) and at my lowest I had a BMI of 14. I just went from C to B then B cups were a little loose but A ones were way too tight. So yeah, I guess the boobs stay, somewhat. I've yo-yo'd many times and they always shrink and grow back the same way.

No. 140216

>>140213
Sage for blog, but my highest BMI was 20 and my lowest was 14. I was only an A cup to begin with (32A) but went down to a 28AA, then when I recovered I never really fully got them back. I don't know the exact measurements because I just didn't bother to wear a bra as I didn't need one but I know they never got back to their old size at least. Maybe if I'd stuck recovery out for longer I'd have them back now or they'd be bigger, though, who knows.

No. 140217

>>140213
From other anons and myself, it looks like it really goes by a case by case basis.

No. 140218

I just reallyyy need to vent for a minute

I feel like absolute shit about myself because I'm at a crazy high weight. I was very underweight for a few years (BMI 13 on average, lowest being 11) then I gained up to the high end of the healthy range in about half a year because I couldn't stop having extreme binges daily (most likely bc I was SO tired of going so long constantly restricting and avoiding food I actually liked).

I haven't binged since the beginning of the year and have my eating all leveled out now, but I'm at a BMI of 23.5 and I can't go a day without crying over how much I hate myself for this, especially since my previous highest was a BMI of 19-20 way before my ED got terrible.

This month I'm getting my shit together and restricting a bit and exercising daily, but idk I'm so scared I'll never manage to lose weight. Like what if I end up fucking up and keep eating too much, what if it takes forever to lose even a few pounds… it stresses me out so badly. I highly doubt anyone would even believe that I have an ED because I look like a pig. ughhh I fucked up so badly

No. 140219

>>140218
>23.5 bmi
>"pig"
I know you're venting, but that really can't be considered pig tier. What is your ideal healthy BMI?

No. 140220

>>140218

I mean you can't be surprised that you're binging when underweight. It's not healthy and your body is literally trying to put on some more weight to survive by making you binge

No. 140221

>>140219
I know it's technically not overweight, but it's kind of hard to not feel awful when every other girl I know is smaller than me. I'm so not used to weighing this much either, it just really disgusts me. ;_;


Objectively? My ideal BMI would be the low end of healthy, maybe, since that's where my "natural" weight always was. But in my mind, of course I want to go down lower, not as low as before though. Maybe just moderately underweight because I don't really feel shitty around there physically. Like a BMI of 16 or so.

>>140220
Yeah, it just sucks that it went so far and the weight gain was so fast. But thank god I don't struggle with it anymore, I was terrified I'd keep gaining forever.

No. 140222

is this thread too old to bump because holy shit relatable

just went to see a doctor for the first time in years and got a very gentle 'you need to start gaining weight or youre going to die'

so I came home and had 178 calories of rice…. because thats kind of a step in the right direction, right?

No. 140223

>>140222
I'm glad your taking baby steps towards some form of recovery. Good luck to you Anon on reaching a stable state health wise.

No. 140224

I'm a former anorexic currently struggling with alcoholism.
I wake up and I either pass out or just sort of black out for half a minute… so I have to eat something because work, I wait tables.
So I don't eat the rest of day, then drink buckets of alcohol to drown away the guilt of eating… rinse and repeat.
I can't seem to stop the cycle. Eat more? More booze for you fatty. Drink less? LOL no
So I've been losing about 2-4lbs per month for the past year or so, I'm underweight now but it's so slow and I'm scared.
I don't know what will happen to me. Will I finally stop drinking and get severely underweight or will I just drink more and then gain massive amounts of weight?
It's just like I have two different voices in my head and they're completely incompatible with each other.
Sorry for the wall of text, just ranting.

No. 140225

i need an alternative to skinnygossip/mpa

something supportive and motivating but maybe a smaller community??

or something that wont jump down your throat if you're eating under 1200 calories a day because you arent ready for recovery yet.

No. 140226

Tfw gained 30+lbs in the past year because you moved out of non-caring parents house and moved in with super caring husband.
I've tried losing weight with healthier food and exercise but I saw no results so I started restricting and b/p again and already I have lost 5lbs. Weeee.
I'm kinda worried tho because on Tuesday I gotta go to the dentist, do you think they'll notice any giveaway signs of purging? I've heard of people bring outed by dentists and stuff.

No. 140227

>>140226
Dude this isn't a proana thread. It's ed support, gtfo. We aren't going to clap you for losing.

No. 140228

>>140226
Don't purge for 2 to 3 days before going to the dentist. At least you won't have fresh trauma on the back of your throat making the dentist think you've been throat fucked hard by your bf just before your appointment.

No. 140229

Are there any other good manga related to ED like the OP pic? I finally got around to reading it and I really liked it.

No. 140230

>>140229
helter skelter by Kyoko Okazaki lightly touches on ED but mainly focuses on vanity, very good read

No. 140231

>>140230
I just read the description, sounds perfect. Thanks for the tip!

No. 140232

I saw my dad the other week for the first time in a year and he straight up told me I looked "perfectly healthy" last time he saw me (and currently, now, even though both times my mum has made a huge deal over my weight and I know I'm quite underweight). I didn't know how to tell him I was still really underweight so I just played it off but it makes it that much harder to get out of this relapse. I know I've always looked significantly bigger than my weight is due to my weird bone structure. I accept that and I know for a fact that's not just dysmorphia no matter what people try to convince me. But it sucks being told for the first time that I straight up don't look ill at all even when I am. I just want to know if there's anyone else here who has this same issue outside of all delusions/dysmorphia. I'm not saying I don't look thin but I don't look at all 'too thin' at a weight that I definitely should. My scales are totally accurate, before you bring that up, I get weighed at the doctors too and the numbers match up.

No. 140233

>>140229
What's the name of the manga in the op?

No. 140234


No. 140235

I was in inpatient treatment (not ED-related) for a few weeks and had a weird jaw infection that kept me from eating more than veggie broth and Cream of Wheat (they gave me Ensure milkshakes but I dumped them in the sink when nurses weren't looking). I lost a lot of weight in a few weeks and had to wear childs' scrubs, I even fit into a pair of jeans I had never fit into before. Then I got discharged and my hunger was insatiable: I would order meals upon meals delivery and eat them all by myself in the span of less than 60 minutes. I ended up gaining all the weight back plus more…

I'm so full of shame and self-loathing all day and night. I don't want to be looked at if I'm not wearing baggy clothes, I don't want to be looked at sexually by my BF. I feel like I don't deserve to be looked at anymore if I look like a disgusting animal… I don't know what to do except restrict and punish myself.

Additionally, I think something in my brain is keeping me from viewing my body correctly. I'm convinced my scale is broken because I went onto one of those bodygallery type websites and only felt like the bodies that looked like mine were +30lbs from what my scale says… is this normal? Well, not normal, but is this something you all have experienced as well? Sorry for long post. I have nobody to talk to about this…

No. 140236

>>140235
Well it's normal for someone with an ED at least, that's for sure. I definitely feel the same way. When I see people the same weight or BMI as I am I'm always completely baffled because I look a million times bigger than them, or so I think I guess. In the end though it's worth it to eat well and be healthy, even despite all the struggles that come with it at least temporarily. I remember feeling so huge after I recovered but for years everyone around me has always just said I look great, thin, whatever–it's good to remember that ED mindset standards are a whole different world from the perceptions of the general populace, including your loved ones like your bf

No. 140237

I spent time around my family for the first time in like a month and a half and all I did was binge eat. Could not stop. Even when they're not stressing me out they are STILL stressing me out.

No. 140238

I'm stuck in a constant starvation/binge cycle. I eat 500 to 1,000 calories 5 days a week and at the weekend I'm so hungry that I fall off the wagon (my bmr is only 1,500 calories).

The worst part is that I'm not even binging on sweets and takeaway until I almost burst. It's just I might have a few slices of bread, an instant meal, a tinned soup, a bowl of popcorn…things like that but somehow that brings me back to square one again.

I got so overweight from comfort eating when I was really depressed as a teen. I had no hobbies, no friends. What else was there to do?

I used to work out really hard at the gym and go to bed on an empty stomach for years to try and lose it but to no avail. I don't eat breakfast. I avoid social events at all costs. I've an obsession with eating clean. Honestly, I'd be lying if I said I didn't consider suicide on an almost daily basis.

No. 140239

I'm >>140176, checking back in after a few months of not posting on this site.

I managed to calm down after posting that three months ago. I managed to keep eating at my BMR, and then gained an additional 10 pounds from starting to drink again. Now I'm at 120. A 21.9 BMI. I weigh exactly twice as much as I did at my lowest weight.

I think what really ’triggered' me so badly was that my boyfriend had made some comments that I was getting a bit fat and that I should start working out.

This is one instance. It was late at night, and he said he was going to order us some pizzas. I hadn’t eaten enough that day, but I just couldn’t bring myself to eat pizza. I said that I didn’t want anything.

Burned into memory – ‘You don’t need pizza anyway,’ he said, grinning and pinching the fat on my thigh.

Whenever he touches me, all I can think of is him grabbing at rolls of fat, fingers sinking into disgusting softness. It’s extremely hard to hide the reaction I have to this. I freeze up and my face starts twitching. My every being is shrieking out to cry hysterically and slap his hands away from me and run far away. I can’t enjoy sex or physical touch in the slightest in part because of this extreme reaction, and because I loathe my body so much I can’t bear to even be looked at.

Eventually I told him one night that I knew I was fat, and that he really didn’t need to keep reminding me. He asked if it made me upset when he made comments like that. I told him that it did. He told me he was sorry and hugged me. That was the end of those comments, except for one night about two weeks ago when he outright called me fat when he was drunk.

This may seem unforgivably cruel, but it truly isn’t. He doesn’t know that I ever had an eating disorder. All he knows is that I used to be very thin and pretty, and then – seemingly as soon as I moved in with him – I started getting fat and ugly. He’s a fit, attractive guy, and he most likely assumed that on some level I was doing the typical woman move of ‘getting comfortable in the relationship’ – 'I’ve already nabbed him as mine, now I can let my appearance go.’ I am also completely overstating the significance of these comments. He said maybe 4 or 5 weight-related comments total, and we have a good relationship otherwise, although he can sometimes get mean when he’s drunk.

Moving on.

Nothing in my health has improved whatsoever, and I’m even fatter and uglier than I was before. I don’t even really care about my health anymore. I just want to be thin again. And I want to die. I danced with death for such a long time but I was never able to commit myself fully to self-destruction. I have come so close to death on occasions and always pulled myself back from the brink completely alone because I just love the pain of living, and I can’t hurt myself more if I die. But now I have improved my life by huge leaps and bounds and I have the overwhelming urge to destroy it all. I have a good job and a good relationship and all I want to do is go back to being a starving psychotic NEET living by myself in a shitty flat. I get off to destroying my life and destroying myself. In that way, nothing makes me happier.

It was like a switch suddenly flipped back on a few days ago and I fell straight back into this mindset so immediately that I can't imagine thinking any other way. I went from completely normal to not eating anything at all. I feel the best that I have before I tried to 'be healthy.' This is the way I am meant to be, and this is really it this time. I already look better and feel better. My coworkers and customers have been complimenting me ever since, and I've been performing much better in all aspects of my life. People want to know me again.

I cannot overstate how strange this is. I have not even lost weight yet. I went down two pounds which is obviously just water weight from fasting a few days. The difference is purely in me psychologically and that is what has always drawn people to me. This kind of charisma that I get from hating myself so much. This is why people have always liked me so much and what used to make me so popular. I had such a huge effect on the people around me.

This is a way-too-personal rant typed extremely inarticulately because I cannot focus on a damned thing right now. I might delete this ater.

No. 140240

>>140239
I relate to this EXACTLY (currently weighing 2x lowest weight, disgusted by intimacy, switch went off in my head a week ago that's made me fall back into restricting again and getting a high from it). I don't know what to say to cheer you up at all but you're not alone + I really hope you stay safe!

No. 140241

>>140239
(Samefagging, sorry) Also, if your boyfriend ever calls you fat again, you have to have a serious and firm discussion with him that it's not a minor thing and it's fucked up for him to insult you, ED or not. I'd honestly dump him if he kept consistently making comments like that because…why should you be dating someone who pulls you down, especially triggering you into your disorder again (which is a major issue, not a petty little thing)? You don't deserve that sort of treatment from him.

No. 140242

I began recovery from anorexia five years ago using the minniemaud method before tumblr got it fucked up (unrestricted eating of decent homemade food, not like this mukbang ice cream party that it's turned into)

Now I'm really, really fat. Like BMI 35ish. I have a body type like LoeyLane if you know her, but I'm nowhere near as pretty.

I cut down my intake to less than 2,000 cals but if anything my body is just stuck fat. I'm trying to be healthy, I eat well and exercise moderately, but I think my body is just so fucked up I won't ever be normal again.

It hurts a lot because other girls who recovered with me gained a load of weight and then tapered down to a normal weight within a year or two - I've literally seen it happen. Not me.
I don't know what to do. Some days I want to die. Some days I feel okay.

I don't know.

No. 140243

>>140239
It doesn't matter if you have had an ED or not, if your boyfriend is making fun of your size or poking at you being fat, that's not cool at all, ever.

Sure, if he is actually concerned for your health (ex. saying you're eating too much junk food, drinking too much soda and he's worried, that's different because it's for the sake of your health rather than your size).

I feel bad for you anon, if that's what you want to do though, there's no way for me to stop you. However, I'd try to discuss it with the boy you're dating, he'll probably notice that you're not eating eventually.

No. 140244

Deleted post from paranoia again. Please don't repost if you saw it.

No. 140245

inb4 blog post but I just need to shout into the void right now that my bulimia is taking over my life and making me its bitch and i'm just LETTING it and i'm so fucking powerless to change

i've never really recovered, just had years in high school where i stopped doing it as much and then a switch would go off and i'd taper back into it. it's been 7 fucking years

the worst part is how well hidden it is, i know how to avoid enamel damage so they don't really erode (teeth have been sensitive lately tho), i've always had a baby face so it doesn't look weird and i've always had 'small teeth' too, and no scars because i'm such a monster that i purge freehand. my hair looks healthy and thick somehow. everyone thinks i just naturally have a (subpar average) hourglass shape but my metabolism would prob make me ballon up if i stopped puking everything that isn't clean/healthy

my job is enabling me worse than ever, because it's a fast food chain and they just LET me take whatever i want after a shift and i drown my demons in ice cream and fried bullshit and purge and repeat and repeat and repeat day after day and i don't see how or when i'll stop bc i'm sure ya;ll are familiar with that ED behavior of convincing yourself 'lol i can stop anytime i want' when deep down you KNOW that's bullshit but somehow you push it down far enough to where you start believing your own lies? that's me. that's been me for so long. not even my family or the people close to me or people i LIVE with catch onto me and god tbh i wish someone would, just so i could be forced kicking and screaming into recovery

i had a chance to eat like a normal fucking human and have a real normal relationship with food and i'd give anything to go back to middle school insecure baby me and STOP it before it ever started

No. 140246

I'm at my goal weight and it feels so bittersweet. I like my body more than ever but now I'm insecure about things I didn't really care about before - mainly my boobs (they've been kind of saggy since they developed but at least when I was at a 'normal' weight they were fuller) and my stretchmarks (I never had them from being fat because I never was but it still feels ridiculous. I feel like people will look at me and think 'What kind of skinny girl has stretchmarks like that?')…

And I still feel unlovable and alone. I guess I got too caught up in the fantasy of 'When I'm at my UGW, everyone will think I'm perfect and love me!' but no, I still don't have a single friend or a boyfriend. I just feel slightly better about my appearance and achieving my UGW.

No. 140247

I fucked up and my bmi is around 17 again. I don't wanna keep doing this shit because i feel way too old for it (silly, I know) but I don't know how the fuck to live without some kind of disordered behaviours any more. It's been 16 years this July since it first started and I don't know how much longer I can last.
In between every thought about how afraid I am of the disorder is another thought about how much I want to lose more weight. I don't have a "goal weight" I just obsess over losing 15 kilos. Ive lost 45% of my body weight in 4 years but still always, 'I need to lose 15 kilos'
Idk what to do but the ambivalence is not working at all

No. 140248

>>140245
are u me oh my god. I used to be able to only purge like once or twice a week but because of fucking college stress I've been basically puking every single fucking day. I used to have like Russell's marks on my hand but after a while I figured out how to puke without using my hands. My parents know about my eating disorder, but then I moved out and started college. When I came back to visit, I didn't purge or like refuse food so I guess they thought I was okay again. But I'm like on the smaller side of normal now and it grosses me out so fucking much cuz I was so much smaller and I cant even stop binging and purging. I make myself sick.

No. 140249

>>139942
does anyone feel anger/bitter from ther bdd? I've been restricting and i've lost somewhere between 20-30 lbs this year (it varies depending on how much i binge purge but now i'm nearly underweight) and i feel like i look SOOOOO much bigger than my friends and people who are bmi 20+ despite doing working out regularly and it makes me so upset and jealous….of people heavier than me which just makes me seem stupid and delusional. I feel that i'm just as gigantic as i used to be despite being a lower weight + more fit somehow. It's wild because when I see myself next to them in pictures i'm dramatically smaller but in person i feel like such a whale next to them.

No. 140250

I still have an excess 18kilos from that fucking seroquel and I feel so disgusting. I puck after almost every meal but my bf keeps buying food and I'm a weak shit who can't restrict.
I feel so miserable. None of my old cute clothes fit me anymore and all I wear are black jean and tee shirt.
Idk what to do.

No. 140251

>>140250
Hoo boy do i hear ya. Trying really hard to just eat normal meals, but i seem to have no middle ground. Also Fucking WHEN will science give us real actual diet pills. I hate purging and i hate that i'm not forcing it anymore, at times i have a much harder time stopping it than anything. I'm on lexapro btw. I know it's my fault that i gained. Fuck.

No. 140252

Why can't I just learn to eat properly? I was eating regular meals 3 times a day for the last two weeks, but since yesterday I've been binging.. on healthy foods of all things. They weren't even appetizing. Yesterday I binged on cold rice pasta and today, cold brown rice until my jaws hurt. And I still feel like doing it again. I don't know what's wrong with me.

No. 140253

I'm not sure if I should feel this way, but I purposely avoided Eugenia Cooney's videos because I found her to be a bit triggering.
I struggled with anorexia from the ages of 11 - 16 and despite small relapses between then and now (I'm now 22), I can't help but want to starve again. She's everywhere, this overly skinny, skeleton-like figure, is everywhere.

I weigh 99lbs. I've been lower and my highest ever was 117lbs. Even though I don't want to be as skinny as Eugenia, it makes me notice how big I actually am and I know a relapse is coming.

No. 140254

i've been basically on a neverending binge since few months. i gained so much weight during that time yet i still keep finding excuses for changing it. and i just keep on getting fatter.

No. 140255

A few years ago I watched a short film (I think it was part of the ABCs of Death) about an overweight girl who is bullied for being fat. She goes home and binges then feels guilty after watching advertisements on tv full of skinny girls. So she goes to the bathroom with a blade and slices off her flesh until she's just bone and muscle. It's extremely graphic and I didn't want to post it in case anyone finds it triggering.


I regret to say that I've never watched anything more relatable in my life.

No. 140256

>>140254
You should get on adderall or some upper that suppresses appetite, it's gr8

No. 140257

>>140256
Don't be the dick who encourages symptoms.
Go eat your own adderall and post your trash on MPA with the rest of the wannarexic crèche.

No. 140258

>venting
>Very long read
I've struggled with EDNOS for seven years.
My longest stint of healthy eating was nearly a year until I recently get to stay with my mother this week for the holiday and I've just realized she's my trigger.
I binged and purged and started restricting the day I arrived here.
I put the pieces together that whenever I have contacted/visited her in the past, I start getting those obsessive thoughts about food and my appearance.

We've never had a relationship, I hate and love her all at the same time; growing up she focused all her attention at my psychotic brother Cory. (I'm not just using that word; he is a clinical psychotic.)
When I was like 7-9 years old and he was hospitalized for the umpteenth time, I would tell my mother I wanted to kill myself, too-I didn't mean it, but I wanted to be the center of attention. Petty kid stuff.

I think that this EDNOS happened because I wanted attention, too. I wanted to stand out in some way?
My mom always had an obsession with food, always dieting and showing some small signs of an ED. When I started to grow and fill out though, at like 13 years old, she started advising me on how to eat and exercise because she didn't want me to get fat. I then started to actually inspect my body and agreed, "yeah I'm sorta chunky, not like other girls."

I started working out with her in the gym for an hour each day, and started noticing what I ate.
She'd praise me on my restraint and new slender physique. It was the only thing we did together and any other activity I did she rarely gave the same praise.

When I turned 16 I was 142 pounds. During this year I lost nearly all of my friends do to me getting into drugs and I went into a depression and tried to kill myself. During my hospital stay I started making myself throw up after meals. This habit stuck with me after I was discharged and I also started exercising excessively.
In the course of a year I was down to 102 pounds and people noticed.

Instead of concern my mom was passive aggressive as she watched my size dwindle, she began to speak to me bitterly and when people would actually comment(fucking disgusting but thin was in vogue atm), "wow you look good, anon, how'd you lose the weight?" my mom would reply for me, "don't eat any food."

It seems to me now that she was jealous. But I got off on that new, petty attention. I felt in control of our relationship, during that time I could warrant a response from her.

When I started throwing up blood and puking without sticking something down my throat, I asked her if she could send me to facility and that I was scared and wanted to stop.
She advised, "just eat healthy, you know how to do that."
I think she didn't want to deal with another hospital bill, but who knows?

I got kicked out for the final time in 2014 and went to live completely on my own, and not having around eased my sense of self tremendously, till I could go months without b/p/restricting. I gained back a healthy 25 pounds.
Now I'm scared that it will happen again and I'll be upchucking blood and hating my skin just so my mother might notice me. How do you cope with a family member being a trigger?
I want to love her but I feel so resentful.

No. 140259

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From chew and spit (yes retarded I know) to binging like fuck and "normal" BMI again. Literally none of my fucking clothes fit me anymore and I just got my period for the first time in 17 months I'm a fucking whale I should just kill myself tbh

>>140256

Not that anon but tfw no Adderall here, fucking shit yurop country. I wish because technically I could get something like that as my psychiatrist has suspected that I might have ADD or someshit. Oh well guess I'll just have to go back to exercising 3 hours and eating 200 kcal worth of baby food a day then.

>It never ends, this shit.

No. 140260

I hate my body so much. The only reason why I haven't killed myself is because I don't want to upset my boyfriend. Which seems nice and like I have something to live for but it's awful because I could be dead right now and not living in pain and guilt. Oh well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

No. 140261

>>140260
Ahaha jesus, same anon - I feel so guilty thinking/feeling the same thing, but it doesn't stop me from wanting to not exist. It's a weird bag of thoughts.

No. 140262

I'm scared. I think when I lost weight I fucked up my health. I lost over 50kg because of restricting. I'm still a healthy weight (bmi 18.8) but my heart feels weak and I fainted recently. I still feel fat…

No. 140263

anyone else feel like they're binging just to… sabotage themselves? i have no problem restricting. i've taught myself to hate food, to find it gross, but every once in a while i just go and overeat. i don't really want to though, i don't have any cravings or appetite, but i just kinda force myself to binge, even if every cell in my body cringes in disgust, even if my stomach and mouth hurt. i don't understand.

No. 189290

One of my biggest fear is to have an ED or to have a child and not knowing he have one, nobody should suffer from this, I hope that everybody can overcome they ED and have a nicer live .

No. 334699

I’ve lost so much weight since I started follow ana guides and a cancer diagnosis for my s/o I haven’t been able to focus on myself and I’ve gained it all back

My s/o is in remission now but I’m fat again and hate myself lmao, tfw 17 BMI to 22 let me die



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