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I agree with abortion, but I think it's sad and upsetting at the same time. Anyone else feel the same way?

>>133368
I wouldn't say I "agree" with abortion. I don't judge people for having them and understand that it's often for the better. But they make me really fucking sad.

I mean, say a two year old is ill and a complete burden on his or her family. If they pulled life support, I'd understand. But it's still sad for a baby to die. You know?

>>133367
I didn't but my sister did. She had this condition where the embryo grows in the fallopian tubes instead of the womb, so the baby is doomed to die and potentially cause the mother to have internal bleeding and hemorrhages. She was crestfallen because she really wanted to have that baby. Talked to it, gave it a name and everything. They gave her some pills to make her miscarry.

It was really sad, but at the same time it was necessary for her health.

there's already a thread for that here

>>15706

>>133367
I had an abortion in August of 2014. The fact that I did it isn't what makes me emotional, but more of the situations around it. The 'baby daddy' pretty much blamed me when the condom failed and said a lot of emotionally abusive shit to me when he found out that I was pregnant. Even had the balls to say that the sex wasn't even good. Didn't offer to help pay for half of it. Our last words before a good while was him calling me a stupid bitch and telling me to kill myself. Nobody in my family knew (I was living abroad), and I told a close guy friend at the time (who actually had a huge thing for me apparently)and he got super pro-life on me and tried to convince me to be with him and just tell everybody that the baby was his. Pregnancy hormones mixed with feeling depressed and lonely because of shithead baby daddy took his offer. He was borderline creepy obsessed with me and was wanting to get married ASAP, and honestly I was just pre-occupied with the whole being pregnant thing and was basically using him as an emotional crutch because I literally had nobody. It took me a week of that to finally realize "What the fuck am I doing, I can't do this" and decided to just go through with an abortion. Abortion was illegal where I was living, but doable if you had $1000 in cash laying around. Thankfully I was able to order pills from Women on Web. I ended up telling the friend that I miscarried, and used the excuse that I needed time alone so that I could distance myself away from him. He took it kind of bad, so I ended up blocking his number so that I could just focus on life. 1 week before I took the pills, I woke up super nauseated, so I went out to buy some saltines, and wouldn't you fucking know it, that friend is standing outside of my apartment, holding marriage documents, and begging me "Please…please…please". That went on for a good few days. He finally got the hint and we mutually agreed to stop being friends after that for obvious reasons.


Had the abortion and all was well. I felt seriously so relieved afterwards. Only felt sad the day after, where I went out for lunch and say like 4 hafu babies with their foreign white moms, which was like kinda heartbreaking in a way, but nothing that made me regret my choice.


Baby-daddy and I had like 1 interaction with each other, where he tried to hit me up to sleep with me again. Didn't even apologize or admit that BOTH of us made a mistake and not just me. Even said to me, "I forgive you because I'm sure you were just mad because you wanted to be with me." Bahaha stupid dickface. Glad I don't have his child around because seeing any face that resembles his would cause me to beat the shit out of it if I ever saw it again

>>133372
Wow anon I'm sorry this happened t0o you. I'm glad you a choice in the matter as well even if it was illegal.

>>133372
Was he an Asian guy? The hafu thing is creepy tbh.

>>133372
>>133374


Sounds like a jap or korean, they're obsessed with having half kids. Black men and women are the same tbh. Fucking gross.

>>133375 abortion isn't illegal in Japan but she said it was illegal where she was so

>>133376
Confucian cultures like Korea, Japan, and Taiwan all treat abortion like an appendectomy. We don't have this Judeo-Christian hangup with embryos to prevent us from performing a routine medical procedure.

She must be from Ireland, Poland, or some other Catholic majority country.

>>133369
personally, unless you have been raped (of any age), are under 18 or have a life-threatening desease or any kind of other health problems, abortion should be illegal.
most of the time women abort because they want to keep their shitty ass jobs. really? or they dont use a condom and sleep with different people.
smh

>>133377
you mean some people arent heartless cunts and dont want to kill an innocent life because of selfish reasons are bad? lmao

>>133379
>innocent life

pro-life gtfo

>>133378
So are you going to take care of all these unwanted babies that are being born? Are you gonna pay for their mothers welfare and food stamps? You want a woman who doesn't use a condom and sleeps around to raise a child?

lmao pro-life logic

>>133381
There are pro-life leftists…they're called Catholics

>>133376
>>133377

OP of the original post here, living in Korea. Abortion is illegal here, but can be done under the table. All money has to be paid up front and in cash to the doctor, and it gets pretty pricey the longer you wait.

Not sure about how it is in Japan.

>>133379
>life
rofl
it's not alive, you fucking moron

I'm all for abortion. But at the same time, I think some anons here despite them sounding dumb af may interpreting what they're trying to get across the wrong way.

Abortion can be for many reasons. I think sometimes, it can be a little sad and I think it's kinda gross that some girls host abortion parties.

I know a ton of tumblrtards are all for that sort of shit because it's edgy and mi femuhnism! But I just think it's manky.

All I think… be safe, play it safe ect. The usual. Do think it's pretty gross if you are sleeping around (not judging) and not bothering with any protection, knowing what the outcome is and just having abortions all over the place. Idk I just think it's a bit much and I don't care if it offends feminist-angry-"mi rights" edgy girls either.

But if you're being forced into it, idk locked in a cellar by a creep and shagging you, hanger up your fanny then yeah. Kinda different story.

Whatever.

>>133385
I wish I could buy you a coffee or something, anon. This is the most sensible comment in this thread.

I believe that abortion is often justified, but holy shit the feminists who have absolutely no qualms about stopping a pregnancy because of shallow muh body muh choice reasons are off their fucking rockers.

I'm all for abortion but also for slutshaming.

>>133387
honest question. what on earth is slutshaming? are they saying we can't criticize anyone who's being irresponsible about sex?

>>133385
Your logic makes no sense, "I think women who are stupid and sleep around with no protection and have abortions all the time are idiots, I wish they didn't have abortions"

Would you rather they give birth to a bunch of kids they don't care about, don't raise, and can't afford? In that case, abortion is a blessing. And most of the "abortion parties" are conservative propaganda. Everyone has an anecdote about how they totally know some slut who threw an abortion party, but I've never heard of one IRL.

Why does abortion always have to be a sad thing? If you do not ever want kids, and you think babies are gross little parasites getting an abortion is going to be the best day of your life.

>>133389
Anon is saying that abortion should an emergency resort and not taken lightly as merely another form of contraception, like some of the edgy sjws do.

>>133388
I think it's about not shaming women for having sex or enjoying it, sometimes you can be slutshamed for even having sex once ever. But as usual some sjws push it too far.

>>133391
Got it. Seems like the line can get pretty fine, though.

>>133372
Shit anon, glad you got out of that situation.

I also had an abortion. I've had two actually. One was when I was 16 years old. Fairly new to the idea of having sex and using birth control. My parents were very strict and were constantly keeping a close eye on me. I couldn't go to the youth clinic for anything because I was always in fear of someone seeing me then telling my parents (that happened a lot too.) I went through with it and it was very comfortable for me the whole way through. The people were so nice to me but I wasn't really scared in the first place. My best friend and his mom drove me home after and they were very awesome that day too. The second time my birth control failed or something. I must have gotten the time off. I was prepared for it like the first time. My boyfriend at the time(same as first time) became very abusive so the thought of me even keeping this one terrified me since I figured we would probably both be dead in the near future. I had my second one at the same place so I was alright with everything again. Went over to my friends house after and she told me her mom had a friend who had abortions all the time. She treated it as a form of birth control. That made me feel kind of sick.

In all though it hasn't affected me much. I always had the abortion within the first month so I don't personally think of that as a human. I saw it as I was taking control and responsibility for my life. I think I typed too much sorry .-.

>>133389
>and you think babies are gross little parasites

Because the vast majority of people don't feel that way.

>>133383
Sleeping with random Korean dudes and getting pregnant with their hwabyeong-spawn is lolcow-tier behavior anon. Koreans aren't even attractive.

>>133377
Abortion was illegal in Japan for a long time.

There's also this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mizuko_kuy%C5%8D

Japanese Confucianism is very different to Chinese. For example, Japanese Confucians thought that the duty of care among different strata in society also applied to animals.

>>133388
SJWs use it as a "you can't criticize sex ever even if it's unhealthy or irresponsible" but it was meant to be about not shaming women for being sexual.

It was usually used when women were shamed for having the same amount of sex as men, when they were treated badly for their lack of virginity, when they were persecuted for pre-marital sex, when the state of their virginity affected how they were perceived when reporting things like rape or assault, etc. It's one of those things that tumblr ran into the ground.

>>133389

It's just my OPINION anon. Sorry if it offends you, I just think that way. If you're going to have casual sex then take control, I understand that mishaps happen but some generally just shag around and have abortions all over the place. I get it's her decision, I just think it's manky. I know I'll be called out by a ton of angry ass girls with their issues and feminist bullshit but I don't care, I just think it's gross.

Like I said, I'm all for abortion, I just think it's gross when people know what the outcome is = pregnancy/diseases ect but they take nothing for it and don't use anything. Then get a shit ton of abortions like they're gulping down water, it's gross. I just think it's gross.

>>133395

they're asian so therefore they're kawaii and amazing

>>133397
>>133388


It's basically going "ew u slag" when a girl has shagged about 50 guys all at once. You can't shame girls cos guys can shag around and they don't get called out for it, therefore why isn't the same attitude applied to guys and just for girls? That's it, in a nut shell really.

I personally just think, fair enough if you want to have casual sex then go for it and just be safe (protection/contraception ect). But some girls over on tumblr ect just ram the shit down your throats.

I remember ages ago, I saw one of those depression videos with the guy making a flip card thing with his story about his ex girlfriend and how she got pregnant. They were about 19-23 I think and he said "she killed my son" which was still growing inside of her, they knew the gender and everything. Then she went ahead and got an abortion. The guy started crying in the video, hearts of tons of girls went out to him like "You poor lamb!" and "shes so evil!".

I saw that same video about a few months ago, someone had posted it on tumblr and a bunch of angry girls had reblogged it with "you're such a pathetic piece of shit its her choice, it wasn't even a baby-" just a long evil venomous rant basically.

That's the problem with tumblr, they take things too far and it turns nasty. Girls do get nasty af when it comes to opening your legs, pregnancy and anything to do with women.

Kinda why they make me dislike feminsim tbh. Well, I wouldn't even call THAT feminism. That's just anger.

>>133400
Personally I just call both men and women gross fucks when they sleep with tons of people.

>>133400
Pretty sure it's illegal to get an abortion in most countries after 3 months. You only find out about the sex of the baby at around 18-20 weeks. Aborting a baby at 5 months in? That's pretty fucked up.
Most people who do get abortions, get them in the first 4 weeks, via a pill. So it's the equivalent of a miscarriage, you can't tell it apart from getting your period.
Waiting to get an abortion for months? That's just fucked up. It almost seems like the bitch did it out of spite.

Condoms break, pills fail (even simply drinking grapefruit juice can make it fail), so even if you properly protected yourself, shit happens. Plus not everyone who gets an abortion is automatically having casual sex.

Personally I don't think sleeping with tons of people is gross, but it is a sign that something is wrong with a person. Like alcoholism, but then fucking away your insecurities and feelings instead of drinking it away.

Of the people who didn't have an abortion… why didn't you just buy a plan b pill? Was it not available where you were? Honestly, you have no excuse if the condom broke and plan B was obtainable.

I had sex with an asian guy, and he had the nerve to say 'you killed our baby' after I took plan B. Seriously fuck that guy, I was already afraid it wasn't going to work, I definitely didn't want our fucking spawn.

>>133403
>I had sex with an asian guy

You dun goofed.

Never allow your younger self's weeb fantasies to actually lead to sex with one. Asian people and White people are incompatible nine times out of ten.

>>133403
The effectiveness of Plan B goes the longer it takes you to get it, it can be very expensive, and it might not work depending on your weight.

>>133405
Yup so plan C, which is also a pill, but then taken during the first 4 weeks, shouldn't be looked down upon, even though that's already labeled abortion.

>>133403
>I had sex with an asian guy
…And how was it relevant to the story to mention the fact he was Asian? This could happen with any guy.

Fucking weeaboos and their yellow fever.

>>133407
I don't think they mentioned it to be a positive, since this entire thread is slightly anti-asian dudes.

>>133407
Weeb girls who like asian guys and wigger girls who like black guys are literally the same thing, albeit with different racial groups to fetishize and wish they could become a part of.

I'll never understand the Asian guy thing. Maybe if you're 16, but if you're in your 20s and you still think some plastic shell of an "oppa" is the ultimate in desirability, then I dunno what to say to you.

Get out and meet more people? Asia isn't the only place with interesting culture after all. Reminds me of a few weebs I saw last year gushing over "Asian bread" (you know the way they sell it in those five slice bags?)

Asian bread is fucking horrible, lol.

>>133408
You can't follow the notable lolcows like dakota and not come away with a bit of an aversion to the whole 'asian guys are the best' thing.

>>133409
>>133410
One person mentions they had sex with an asian guy and you all lose your minds. You're trying too hard to be anti-lolcows. They didn't even say asian guys are the best.

Anyway, this isn't an abortion thread, not a weeaboos dating asian guys thread.

>>133411
this "is" an abortion thread, oops.

>>133409
On a forum I was very active at about 8-10 years ago, there was this one girl from Canada who fetishized Asian men to no end, especially halfus. Obsessed with Japan, learning Japanese, going to Japan, etc.

She'd try to sleep with every Asian guy she met, causing lots of drama along the way. Eventually she ended up getting knocked up by one, and she knew it was this one guy and not this other one because she used protection with the other one and yadda yadda. Also she knew the baby would be a full Asian because Asian genes are dominant or some shit. Ended up getting an abortion because the doctors said the fetus would be lucky to get to full-term and not be stillborn.

Like 2 months later she was going on about being in love with some different Asian guy with a girlfriend whose relationship "probably won't last", though she's still in love with this other guy who is completely separate from the one who knocked her up.

>>133413
Yeah, I don't want to knock all interracial relationships, but among the small proportion of white girls who like asian guys, the bulk of them do seem to be weebs.

It's just not a very healthy foundation for a relationship. You view the guy as an extension of a culture, a very racially exclusive one, that you fetishize and want to become a part of and the chances are he views you as some white 'slut' to take advantage of.

Ugh.

>>133414
Also, the wanting to have a kid so blindly just because the other partner is asian is really sickening. Single mothers in asian communities are not treated particularly well, and by having a child with a non-white man you've more or less locked yourself out of any relationship with a white guy later on down the road.

Some people just don't think.

As far as abortions go, I know one girl whose ex actually poked holes in their condom because he was so obsessed with their being together forever.

>>133414
>>133415
>>133414
>the chances are he views you as some white 'slut' to take advantage of

This line of thinking is probably more in line with asian born guys and not asian american dudes, but I definitely don't disagree with you anon, that is not a healthy foundation for a relationship. Not that it can't ever be healthy, but weebs looking for an asian guy to be just like their dramas are in for a rude awakening.

Most of them are going to grow out of it and end up marrying a white dude. A small majority will end up married and miserable, or married and happy.

But sometimes the anti-asian/anti-interracial anons reek of r9k/reddit/pol trolls to me, since those guys freak out whenever a white girl expresses interest in anyone who isn't white, which is why I made this (>>19625) comment, but I was being too sensitive.

Either way, this is still derailing to the topic at hand. Make a separate thread about white girls and asian guys, or take it to the Audrey/AMWF thread in /snow/.

>>133407
>>133413
>>133414

Most weebs probably just want a hafu baby due to the fact that they can make a shit ton of money out of it, Japan will accept any white hafu and throw it into the media. Bonus if it's got blue eyes and oh so wonderful light hair.

African American women are the same. Mixed babies, lighter skin the better.

Fucking gross.

>>133416
I agree, I also don't think they fully understand the reality of living in a Confucian society, nor even a society where they'll be a white person surrounded by a sea of yellow. Sure this a novelty at first, but after a while it really, really gets to you, not having people like you around.

Back to the point at hand. The girl I mentioned got an abortion after discovering her ex's attempts to get her pregnant, but it haunted her. She used to break down about it in quieter moments, it's not something to be taken lightly.

>>133416

I do slightly agree that most of them will grow out of wanting asian men. It's a trend right now, Japan-korea-trend. Kawaii and shit is still in. So asian men are the current want.

>>133419
tbh i've never even encountered any of these people outside of the internet.

the internet tends to amplify such things, and I've noticed white girls with racial fetishes have a tendency to speak for all other white girls when talking about their fetish ("us white girls love asian/black men!" etc.)

>>133420

obv black men for the big cock and asian men for either money or hafu babies for some modelling aka money

>>133418
That is sad to hear about that girl. Everyone handles abortions differently, some people cry, some people don't care. I hope she got some form of counseling.

>>133415 what makes you think she wants a white guy down the road lol

I'm for abortion if you have a legitimate reason to do it.

I'm pretty sure there's a limit to how many months into the pregnancy you can actually get the abortion. I don't think destroying a mindless fetus is equivalent to destroying an adult human life/an actual breathing human baby that has taken its first breath.

Others may disagree with me though.

The reasons why women who don't want to carry their pregnancies to full term is completely subjective and you can't be pro-choice for a specific situation and pro-life in another.

A woman should have the option to have an abortion for any fucking reason she chooses to, whether she a ho and done fucked way too many dudes and one of them got her pregnant or whether she's a rape survivor, it doesn't matter. Or at least to me it doesn't matter.

I had an abortion a few years back after my contraception failed. I had an implant but my partner got a job south of the country so was away for weeks at a time. Low and behold the first time I see him in 6 weeks and jump him I get knocked up. I was 20, a student and also dealing with a BPD diagnosis; I was in no way fit to raise a child. Babydaddy supported me and agreed it wasn't the time so I had a surgical abortion (I wanted it over and done with asap so when given the quick option, I took it).
The fact I forget I've had it until the subject is brought up reaffirms my belief I did the right thing to be honest.

>>133367
Story time! I'm 24.

>first time - surgical
Was 15. My high school boyfriend at the time convinced me to have unprotected sex using the pull out method. Obviously the little shit splooged inside me.
I lived out in country bumfuck and my parents were staunch Catholics, so reproductive education and protection beyond condoms wasn't really thinkable.
I didn't know there was such thing as a morning after pill or a pill abortion.

It's odd, but even though I had signs of pregnancy my mind convinced me that it wasn't true. So around ~2 months I took a test and I confirmed it.
I had romantic ideas about keeping the fetus (was religious at the time), but it seemed like the bf was a coward and wouldn't really back me up. He insisted I keep it and even named it, and I felt incredibly pressured to go along with it. I asked him if he could be with me when I would tell my parents…lol no.

Had to break the news to my parents by myself. They shamed the shit out of me and asked "who deflowered me first." I told them it had been an ex when I was a freshman, and for some reason they redirected their anger at a dude who I wasn't even dating anymore, and not the stupid boy who actually got me knocked up. They were, sadly, more concerned about their reputation so they told me to get an abortion or else they'd have no choice but to kick me out. The boy's parents protected him completely and washed their hands of my situation, saying how 'innocent' their sweet lil man is.

I missed the deadline for the pill abortion, so I had to get a surgical one. We drove two hours away to a city. I had to have my cervix dilated overnight, with the procedure happening the next day. It was essentially labor the whole night. I was in complete agony. The people doing my abortion couldn't find any of my veins for the IV painkiller, so I got poked 8 times. It was very, very painful. The bf promised he would go with me for support, but instead stayed at home and played Runescape while mommy made him tendies.
The one thing I will say is that I talked to very supportive women at the clinic who were also undergoing abortions. One girl in her 20s probably took the most pity on me because she had been multiple times.

When I came back to school he had told everyone that I had aborted "his baby" as if he gave a shit. My parents forbade me to see him. I got a black label, even from teachers (I got kicked out of honor's society solely because of this). The next year bf went on to knock up another bitch and even got her to come after me saying shit like I wanted to secretly "murder" her baby. I was collectively bullied my junior year by her and "pro-lifers," who didn't actually care about fetuses but did want a reason to justify not liking me. My locker was routinely spat on/vandalized. The admins didn't care. People would egg on this crazed girl and tell her I was "talking shit" when I really wasn't, so she'd come after me at the end of the schoolday just to ruin my evening and get me into trouble. She'd get right up in my face and scream at me, or make hurling noises if she'd walk past me (if I told her to cut it out she'd confront me and start SCREAMING). Most days I didn't want to go to school just because I knew there were specific days she would act up, specifically before the weekend. She'd also send me threats and horrible messages on Myspace.

When she had her baby her hormones calmed down. Then, of course, my ex ditched her and the baby too, and then suddenly I wasn't such a bitch anymore because she had been wronged by him as well. She apologized to me years later, but I still hate her ass for what she did to me during that time.

>second time - surgical
I was 19. Basically my bc failed and I got seriously dicked around by my insurance and obgyn, the process took such a long period of time for approval that I missed the deadline for the pill again and had to opt for surgery.
They wouldn't even give me the go-ahead until I bluntly told them I would kill myself if they didn't, so they finally complied.
The guy I was with at the time didn't believe me when I told him, and again, took no responsibility.
However it was nowhere near as traumatic. Plus I knew what I was walking into so it didn't seem as bad. I didn't involve my parents, and actually I never involved my parents in any of my sexual dealings ever again and to this day. One of my exs at the time was more than willing to go with me for the support. We're still good friends.

>third time - pill
The date is a little fuzzy but I got this between 20-22 back when I was taking these shady bc pills and using the morning after pill.
This wasn't traumatic or painful at all. No different than getting a heavy period.
Didn't involve parents, didn't tell bf, didn't tell friends. I was done with dealing with people reacting to my sexual issues. It was just a simple procedure and a mild inconvenience for a day. Thank you, Planned Parenthood.


Idk, abortion is so normalized for me I don't see why people stigmatize it. The argument is people suffer "regret and sadness" after an abortion, but actually the biggest problem was the way people reacted to my abortion. I feel no regret over the abortions themselves. Tbh I don't think about them until I view threads like these or see pro-birth propaganda on facebook.
I have a hormonal implant and a long-term bf now who also approves of abortion, I feel a lot more secure and stable than I've ever been.

>>133427
Ffs I hope you learned to use a condom after the third time, you dumb bitch.

>>133429
Go get another fetus vaccumed out of your pussy, nasty hoe

>>133427
Damn anon, I'm so sorry about what you had to go through as a teen

>>133430
How does it feel that you pass hundreds of us on the street and you are none the wiser about what went down in our vaginas? :^)
Nothing wrong about abortions.

>>133431
Thanks, but it did get me to wise up about the level of trust I put into men. I've seen too many women go through with pregnancies, and then get saddled with a kid by themselves because those pious boyfriends suddenly become absent deadbeats when the work and commitment it takes to raising a child comes to roost.

>>133427
jesus christ close your legs

No. I think all women who do abortion are whores. I'll never forgive my mother for having abortion twice. TWICE. I love her but I hate that she did it. I ask her if she feels guilty and she said yes, and she tells me im right and she later when she was in her 40s really regretted it. I'm not even christian but I'm pro life 100%.(use /b/)

>>133434
>thinking your own mother is a whore for being responsible
>thinking having a child during your 40s is safe
I'd say she'd have done better to have aborted you.

>>133434
Shut up robot.

>>133436
I would be branded if I was a robot, robots do not care about children.
>>133435
no she really doesnt want to """abort""" aka kill me I asked her "what if I was the one who you killed you murderer" and then I made her cry and she asked me to stop lol. Why do women cry if I confront them about it? Answer: they know what they did is wrong. Ok I'll take my words back my mum is not a whore she is a bloody murderer JUST LIKE YOU and everyone in this thread who aborted their child.

>>133437
Take your mommy issues somewhere else, edgelord.

>>133437
You are such a retarded fucking cunt.

>>133437
She was probably crying because she made a mistake not aborting you.

>>133427
I'm glad you don't feel bummed about it, anon. Shame the people around you were so shitty.

>>133367
Medical and I was TERRIFIED at first, for a week up to it because of all the horror stories.

All in all it was a 10/10 experience. I was 5 weeks since my last period so only probably 2 weeks "pregnant". I went to the clinic and was there for two hours. They did a blood test and an ultrasound and then injected me with the first drug, and sent me home with oxycodone and 16 mifopristols that i had to put up my vagina.

3 days later I put 4 up my vagina, nothing happened and I got worried that nothing was going to happen and that I was going to have to get a surgical anyway. The next day I put in 4 more, and the bleeding started but very few cramps. Less than a regular period.

I did a blood test 2 weeks later and the results came back perfect. Which I was shocked because I barely bled anyway.

The only downside is not being able to fuck for an entire week, but that would've happened with a surgical I guess.

>>133441
Had surgical. Vagina wrecked for 2 months. Also super depressed when I was supposed to be "due"

Don't regret bc father of baby is a mentally ill stoner idiot, but will never do it again.

>>133442
why was your vagina wrecked anon???

I've been with my partner since I was 15 now, sexually active within the same year. I'm 24 now and I have no idea how I've managed it but I've never once gotten pregnant.
I was however hospitalised for a ruptured ovarian cyst last year so I'm starting to suspect that I really might be infertile, which would be a relief.

For all the girls in here that have experienced abortions, I actually commend you in following through with such an intelligent desicion in a world where such an act is so reviled and the women that follow through with it socially outcast by people that care more about their useless, vain, pretentious "values" then either the foetus or the bearer.

I fucking despise pro-lifers. Can you honestly think of anything more selfish then attempting to ban a highly successful method of population control when we're living on a planet that is legit dying due to gross human overpopulation?
And have any of these shitsacks ever actually donated a penny towards an orphanage or a women's shelter or services for single mothers? Yeah, they care so much about the life growing inside of another human, right up until it's actually born that is, then it's on its own.

>>133443
This.

Just wondering what yall think

>>133446
Maybe I'm an edgy fuck but I don't care that the fetus moved. Definitely doesn't make me think that women should have to be forced to incubate it for 9 months.

How did they get the fetus out in tact? If it was just as invasive as going through labor I would probably just give birth and give it up for adoption unless I really thought the father had terrible genetics.

>>133443
Well i guess i overplayed that, but i did experience quite some bleeding for about two weeks, and then after that i was just very sore. It hurt to have sex. When i think back it might have been paychosomatic.

>>133446

I don't give a shit. Humanity seems to have this notion that as a species that our lives are oh so precious and oh so sacred and they're really not.

We are the sole cause of unspeakable levels of cruelty and suffering that are ongoing as I type this. Right now as I type this there is a man raping a child, an animal is having slices made to it's flesh whilst alive, and very soon will have its skin and fur torn from it in one go so Kanye West can get a new coat.
As I type this, a person is being stabbed to death, and another is having acid thrown in their face. Right now, as I type this, a forest that plays host to billions of organisms is being destroyed, so we cab wipe our asses with tree carcass and build a shiny new mall, and a chained rabbit is being legally tortured with chemicals so Revlon can get that latest lipstick out.

We're not special. We're not sacred. We are the most despicable, vain, monstruous creatures to walk this planet and the less of us the better. There is no limit to the human ego.

>>133448
Maybe you had an infection? I was so paranoid after my medical that I actually made my bf wear condoms once it was over just to be sure everything would close up

>>133446
>>133447
>How did they get the fetus out in tact?
There's a chance that the video doesn't show an abortion but a miscarriage, so the doctors didn't get it out at all.

https://drjengunter.wordpress.com/2015/09/30/proof-the-fiorina-was-right-video-is-an-exploited-premature-delivery-theres-a-male-support-person-in-the-room/

http://theslot.jezebel.com/anti-abortion-groups-exploit-video-of-probable-miscarri-1733984831

>>133446
>info wars

Kek.

>>133441
whoah thats really different than my experience

i also had a 2 hour apointment
got blood test, ultrasound
but i didnt get injections or stick pills up my vagina
i met with a doctor who gave me the first pill (they said it stops the fetus from growing)
then they gave me another pill to take within the next 24-48 hours which was the mifopristol
i laid down to watch a movie to take my mind off it. cramping started within a few hours and then a big flow of blood and a big something (i didnt look, i just went in the shower, grabbed it and into the trash)
i bled pretty heavy til the next morning and actually i was bleeding/spotting nonstop for like two months. two fucking months.
i think around 4-6 months after it, my period came back into totally normal rhythm

>>133437
> Why do women cry if I confront them about it? Answer: they know what they did is wrong
no its shits like you that continue the stigma
fuck off you shouldve been aborted

>>133437
They cry, because even though it was the right choice, it was a difficult one, and you are trying to make them feel even more shitty about it.
Do you really think women enthusiastically get an abortion, are all jolly about it, and celebrate afterwards? No, it's a difficult choice and often leaves a mark.

I had to get an abortion as I became pregnant with my ex's baby (who I lost my virginity to.)

It was just really… difficult. I come from a culture where getting pregnant and aborting your baby is the worst thing you can do so I had no one apart from my abusive ex who was acting like he was getting the goddamn abortion.

I had a surgical abortion. They just drug you and remove the fetus. I woke up and had to sit in a chair wearing underwear made out of bandage for a few hours.

Then I had to deal with my ex calling me a murderer and killer after it for weeks lol… even though we agreed it was for the best.

Sorry for rant, it still bothers me and I can't tell anyone as I'm terrified it'll get back to my family somehow

>>133456
You thought about a life more than your own.

You cool. xx

>>133457
I'm pro abortion but do you even realize how stupid you sound? Yes you should care more about your child than your own life (again, I'm pro abortion but I'm not edgy about it like you are fucking anita sarkeesian)

>>133458
Cry moar.

No because I'm not a murderer.

Would you abort hitler? If he was your baby.

>>133458
you sound like you think that caring for your child means necessarily bringing them into this world

>>133457
If I had brang the baby to term we would both probably be dead so yeah, I chose my own life over it. Idiot.

>>133463
It's a shame that didn't actually happen.

>>133367
Surgical.
I was in no position to raise a child because I was living with my parents and in school at 21, but they gave me an ultimatum. Get an abortion or be kicked out.
I told them I was keeping it, so they kept telling me to abort every interaction I had with them.
Every one of my friends kept telling me to abort, no one was supportive.
I kept being told that my partner was going to leave me like my father left me, and that no man would ever want me again. My place of residence was being taken away from me.
My partner was stressed because of this too, he got nothing but negativity. He wanted to keep the baby as well.
I had the abortion.
My baby was supposed to be born tomorrow.

>>133449
Amen, anon.

>>133465
Wow, anon. I'm sure you made the decision based on what was best for you at the moment, but your comment feels so sad. Not sure if I'm reading it right though.
If you really are sad, I hope that you can find comfort soon. Hugs. <3

>>133449
we are horrible and I agree with every single word you've written down

Didn't have an abortion, but miscarried early on.

I was absolutely devastated. I'm talking crying and wailing (I was a legal teen at the time). I was in no situation to keep a child myself (happened after a one night stand) but would do just fine with my family's support. I thought I would be an amazing mother.

It's been six years since that happened, and thank fucking god it did. A child would have literally taken up all my time and resources, and I would not be able to focus on my career today. All that free time and paychecks I make go directly to me, and I love it.

I lied, some of it goes to the animals I rescued. I'm hoping to adopt some more once I'm more financially stable.

>>133465
It doesn't sound like you see it this way, but it really does sound like it was the best thing for your situation… as sad as it is.

>>133405
How is plan b expensive? You can get it for $50 off amazon without a prescription.

If I was going to a foreign country, I would buy it before hand. TBH all women should have some in their medicine cabinet. It isn't an abortion pill - it's just a high dosage of birth control.

>>133472
It's an emergency contraception not an abortion, how can anybody get those mixed up? It's fucking brilliant if a condom breaks or, God forbid, you get raped. I agree that it's a great thing to have just sitting in your medicine cabinet.

It's totally different to an abortion that uses pills, and they only happen super early on anyway.

I had a surgical abortion on one of my previous birthdays, no joke. Zero regrets. I was on meds that cause birth defects so the embryo might have already been messed up, my health was so poor I was literally incapable of taking care of my toddler (my health was terrible when I was pregnant with my daughter as well, but it was MUCH worse this time around), I'd had postpartum psychosis after having my daughter so I was terrified that'd happen again, and my husband and I weren't in the best place financially. Having that kid would have been dumb as hell. I did feel a bit of trepidation at first, but after sitting down and writing out my thoughts and the pros and cons, my apprehension vanished. My husband was bummed about it, but he knew it was the right thing to do, and never pressured me one way or the other.

I've been bonkers about safe sex since then. I'd been on the pill for a year after having my daughter, and my husband and I had been using condoms since then. But we were fooling around one day, his bare dick went inside me, 30 seconds later I realize this is really dumb even though it feels awesome, I run off and grab a condom, and we continue. And that's how I became pregnant. Sperm can hang out in the urethra post-cumming, and be flushed out by pre-cum (This is why, if you're going to use the pull-out method, you should always make the guy has peed since he last got off. Or just don't use the pull-out method. Seriously. Don't do it). I got knocked up by sperm-contaminated pre-cum, and the sheer unlikelihood of it is why I didn't bother using Plan B. I'm still mad at myself about it.

I had a surgical abortion the day after my 15th birthday. When I texted the(also 15 year old) baby daddy that I was pregnant, his response was "please don't tell my parents" but he was fine with me getting an abortion.

I was underage so my mother had to sign the consent forms. She yelled at me at the hospital that I'd get AIDS next and die. Awkward.
I regretted not being more vigilant about protection, but I've never regretted getting an abortion. I'd do the same thing if I got pregnant now at 21.

I'm surprised by the number of people who had sex partners who didn't have their back at all when they got pregnant. Did you guys not talk about what you'd do if you got pregnant or did they just change their mind or something?

>>133475

>Did you guys not talk about what you'd do if you got pregnant or did they just change their mind or something?

In my case, we did and I thought we were on the same page…I was very wrong when it actually happened. We had been dating for 6 years at this point. We lived together and both had stable full-time jobs. I was on the pill and it just happened, one of those 0.3% statistics. When we discussed it before getting serious he said he would like to have kids with me but I guess after seeing it become a possible reality he freaked out. Pressured me like crazy to get an abortion and I did. Sometimes I feel like shit about it because I wonder if that was my chance to have a baby and I blew it. Other times I'm glad I did it because now I feel like I would've resented it.

>>133475
>>133476

It's important to talk to every partner you have about the possibility of an unplanned pregnancy, but it's easy to think about situations in hypotheticals. A lot of guys probably think they would do the right thing and stay around, but when faced with the ugly reality of pregnancy they book it.

You will have another chance to have a baby, anon. You didn't blow it. Think about all the things in life you were able to accomplish because you didn't have a child or put your body through the pressure of pregnancy. Everyone should aim to have a child that they want to have, a child that is planned- this isn't to say that single mothers or accident babies are always a burden, but it's just better for everyone (baby, mom and dad if hes around) if you only get pregnant and give birth when it's planned and wanted.